[07:03] morning guys [07:08] o/ [07:11] Saviq, how is your stupidly spicy *ehm*? [07:11] Cimi, all gone ;P [07:15] tsdgeos, do you have a way to print out generated code of card creator when using make trycard? [07:15] Cimi: you need to add a console.log somewhere in the .js file [07:15] ok [07:16] tell me if you can't find where [07:43] who saw joshua's pic on hr.canonical.com? :D [07:43] he changed a lot over the weekend :D [07:45] lol [07:47] oh, I got stripped of 5 days off :| === zequence_ is now known as zequence [08:18] so you guys can log in? [08:18] i can't :/ [08:20] o/ [08:20] good morning [08:20] morning [08:27] Saviq: how's your back? [08:27] mine was really bad yesterday [08:28] getting better today, still feeling it tho [08:28] mzanetti, back is fine [08:28] mzanetti, got blisters on my shoulder, though... sunscreen fail [08:28] oh really [08:28] ouch [08:28] yesterday night was interesting [08:29] I guess so [08:36] mhr3_: how's the departments thing going? need anything from my side? [08:37] tsdgeos, nope, think your side is fine, there were some requirements from mike - no departments during searches, so i'm changing stuff [08:38] oki [08:38] mhr3_: just tell me if you need me for anything === alan_g_ is now known as alan_g === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr [09:48] dednick: hi! Do you have a PPA with all the trusted session goodness? [09:51] mardy: it was here: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/landing-001 [09:51] mardy: not 100% sure if it still is. seems to be powerd there as well, which is a bit odd [09:53] jibel, hey, I just checked the background setting and it worked fine here... [09:54] Saviq, with build 60? [09:54] jibel, yes [09:54] Saviq, hm, I'll wipe the device and try again [09:55] tsdgeos, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7571941/ [09:55] Saviq: are you able check on the status of silo1? is was for trust sessions i think, but powerd is there for some reason. [09:55] tsdgeos, before returning in createCardComponent - very handy [09:56] dednick, I think it also has AlbertA's power management changes [09:56] dednick, you should be able to read https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuDk72Lpx8U5dFVHQ3FuMDJGLUZCamJfSjYzbWh3Wnc#gid=1 [09:56] dednick, and here's an overview http://people.canonical.com/~rbpark/citrain/ [09:57] Saviq: thanks! [09:58] mardy: sorry, that wasn't correct then [09:59] Saviq: hm. somebody stole my silo. Can we make a separate ppa for trust sessions, or is it a major pain in the arse? [10:00] dednick, it is [10:00] dednick, we'd have to ask for it to be switched to non-virt, and increased its score to be usable at all [10:01] * Saviq wonders if we could be guinea pigs on the airline for this [10:04] mardy: let me see if i can build you some packages. for device testing? [10:13] Saviq, I completely reflashed my device and reproduced bug 1325505 . Are you sure you're on build 60? [10:13] bug 1325505 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "[regression][#60] cannot change greeter's background" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1325505 [10:17] jibel, yeah, I just discovered a few mins ago that I was, indeed, not :| [10:18] jibel, sorry for having you run after this... [10:18] Saviq, ah ok :) [10:18] Saviq, np [10:18] jibel, just flashing now, will confirm once done [10:28] dednick: thanks, that would help a lot (yes, it's for the device) [10:28] mardy: might take some time! :) [10:31] dednick, let me know which MPs, I'll try and cross-build stuff === pete-woods is now known as pete-woods-away [10:32] Saviq, how do you x-build unity when there's the uitk issue? [10:32] mhr3_, I have a local repo into which I put natively-built UITK [10:32] jibel, huh, it works for me still... [10:32] i did not understand half of that sentence :) [10:33] mhr3_, I've a local archive [10:33] mhr3_, that sbuild picks up [10:33] mhr3_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild#Local_packages [10:34] you just put .debs in there? [10:34] mhr3_, on that note https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/trunk [10:34] mhr3_, yes [10:35] oh, so it should just work now [10:35] yey?! [10:36] mhr3_, yup [10:36] Saviq, ack, I'll check if someone else can confirm [10:36] or not [10:41] Saviq: https://pastebin.canonical.com/110959/ [10:42] Saviq: might be easier to get the package created by CI for the mir one. [10:51] dednick, conflict in u-s-c [10:53] Saviq: great. not usc is ahead of usc/devel ? [10:53] s/not/now [10:54] dednick, it should be renamed to "mirdevel" [10:54] dednick, it's only in place to follow mir dev [10:54] dednick, so yeah, it needs manual merges from trunk from time to time [10:54] * Saviq does [10:54] dednick, if your branch depends on it, it should target devel, though, not trunk directly? [10:57] dednick, pushed, you need to resolve anyway [10:58] Saviq: yeah, it should target devel rather. [10:59] dednick, we know it's not great, we kind-of got infected by mir devel on this [11:15] xnox, could you have a look at platform-api for x-building? it seems to have some weird dep resolving issue [11:26] Saviq: hm. usc seems a bit out of date for mir/devel. not sure I'm qualified to update it. I'll check it out and maybe pass on to mir team for a pre-requisite branch. [11:27] dednick, mhm [11:27] * Saviq just managed to loop byobu :D [11:27] it's all a bit cross buggered === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [12:30] mzanetti, fwiw, it'd be better if you verified locally before pushing it to the PPA [12:30] Saviq: yeah, doing that currently [12:30] mzanetti, ok great [12:30] I'll shut up now [12:34] dednick, greyback, what's the order in which one should build mir and papi? [12:34] Saviq: mir first, then papi [12:37] greyback, but then I end up with libubuntu-application-api-mirserver1:armhf : Depends: libmirserver19:armhf [12:37] greyback, when mir bumped to libmirserver20 [12:38] * Saviq smells a circular dep [12:42] * mzanetti is really struggling with getting Shell.qml merged between QtComp and trunk [12:43] seems dandrader removed a lot of stuff which I think would still be required [12:44] mzanetti: such as? [12:44] * greyback having bad wifi day [12:44] first use demo for instance [12:44] hiding indicators in certain circumstances [12:44] hmm, no idea why he's done that [12:45] I say put it back [12:45] yeah... still the whole file is a single conflict basically [12:46] sadly yeah === _salem is now known as salem_ === tedg is now known as ted === ted is now known as tedg [12:54] greyback, so yeah, it looks like it's "papi, mir, papi" to make it all play together... [12:55] Saviq: that sonud very wrong. Mir has no dependence on papi [12:55] Saviq: for some reason we seem to pull in qt 4 now. do you know why? [12:56] greyback, no, but unity-mir does, and papi builds against mir [12:56] greyback, so I ended up with unity-mir pulling papi, papi pulling mirserver19, when mirserver20 was built against the new papi [12:57] so it tried to have both mirserver19 and 20, which is obviously not good [12:58] dednick, are you doing anything with u-s-c then? === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g === tedg is now known as ted === ted is now known as tedg [13:11] Saviq: was just at lunch, so will get sorted now. But for mardy i think cross build without merging is needed. [13:12] dednick, just of your branch? that might not work with the split greeter landed... [13:12] let's see [13:13] Saviq: hmm. maybe i should just build packages on my device [13:13] dednick, I don't mean x-build won't work [13:14] dednick, rather that if there's things that u-s-c in trunk has, but your branch doesn't [13:14] dednick, that will be tricky [13:14] Saviq: right. well let me just check out what's missing then [13:15] dednick, if you just merge devel in your branch, shouldn't that be good enough? [13:15] Saviq: there are changes in mir/devel for the scene, which usc overrides [13:16] devel is not up to date apparently [13:16] dednick, you mean mir/devel? ouch [13:16] Saviq: sorry, i mean, there something NEW that is being overrided in usc/trunk is not in usc/devel, but there have been changes to that interface in mir/devel [13:17] Saviq: so need to merge usc/trunk -> usc/devel first. [13:18] dednick, I did that this morning [13:18] dednick, it was a clean merge, and it only conflicts in two small instances with your stuff [13:18] dednick, so should be good I think [13:19] Saviq: hm. let me try again [13:19] ouch https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1325580 [13:19] Ubuntu bug 1325580 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "after split greeter landing unity8 and the greeter consume a lot more memory" [Undecided,New] [13:24] dednick, heads up, kgunn's renaming the (mir)devel branches [13:26] dednick: are you in the middle of something... [13:26] ? [13:26] i can wait till my afternoon [13:26] when its quiet [13:26] kgunn: nope. should be ok [13:31] guys [13:31] does make xvfbtestLazyImage succeed for you? [13:31] or is it a 5.3 brokenness thing? [13:31] Saviq: ok, so now usc/devel is now out of date from mir/devel. :( I'll see if i can re-jig it. [13:31] dednick: i'll mess with it after my lunch....as not to disturb [13:32] kgunn: thanks [13:32] dednick, yay for devel branches :| [13:32] hater [13:32] same for xvfbtestShell [13:32] :) [13:36] this overriding of mir interfaces in usc is kind of mad. should export some decorators from mir or something... [13:48] greyback: Saviq: ok have unity8 running without greeter now. I think we need to add rotation/locked landscape to the greeter stuff still [13:49] i hate the cardcreator code [13:49] I understand is fast, but is a puzzle [13:49] we must come up with a smarter solution - ideas welcome [13:49] mzanetti: probably yeah. Though now there's a process divide between unity8 & greeter, we will eventually need a channel to communicate orientation state between them [13:50] Cimi, right back at you [13:50] Saviq, ? [13:50] Cimi, "ideas welcome" [13:50] Saviq, yes I am thinking too [13:51] Cimi, bear in mind you're not the first one [13:51] greyback: yep. but for MAE I guess we'll just fix it to landscape too [13:51] mzanetti: yeah, that'll do [13:51] Saviq, I know I was chatting with mzanetti last week about cards [13:51] and alber [13:52] clearly it's time to write a dynamic generator for the dynamic generator [13:52] Saviq: tsdgeos is renaming some tests (tst_Phone.qml, tst_Tablet.qml). your opinion? [13:52] tst_GreeterPhone.qml etc ok? [13:53] * Cimi the next fly stopping on my legs I will kill the first person next to me [13:53] mzanetti, I asked him to [13:53] or rather tst_GreeterSmall.qml, tst_GreeterWithLoginList.qml etc? [13:53] mzanetti, ah well, the names... the difference is really single vs. multiuser [13:53] yeah, the fact he's doing it is fine... but we shouldn't have "Phone" "Tablet" etc as per your speech [13:54] ;) [13:54] Saviq: not really tbh [13:54] well, right, it's not [13:54] wide vs. narrow? [13:54] I think also the phione one has multiuser if LightDM says so [13:54] sounds good to me [13:54] tsdgeos: ^ [13:54] this overriding of mir interfaces in usc is kind of mad. should export some decorators from mir or something... [13:54] Wide, Narrow etc it is [13:54] damnit [13:54] so portrait vs. landscape is the real difference [13:54] :D [13:55] so wide/narrow or portrait/landscape? [13:55] ;) [13:55] * mzanetti is fine with any of those [13:55] they should get merged is what I'd be fine with ;) [13:55] lol [13:55] dednick, you're repeating yourself [13:55] fair point [13:55] Saviq: i'm just that upset :) [13:56] Saviq: actually the reason they're split into 2 files is just that the narrow one doesn't need most of it... [13:56] Saviq: so we're saving memory by loading a smaller subset [13:56] seems legit to me [13:56] Saviq: "It's a trap!" [13:56] mzanetti, yeah I know, but what will you do with a multi-user phone? ;) [13:57] mzanetti, I mean that that distinction is wrong [13:57] we still load the one with the loginlist [13:57] I guess its really singleuser vs multiuser [13:57] yeah, even if multiuser is used in singleuser scenarios [13:58] mzanetti, on the "saving memory" side with the split greeter... you saw the bug ;) [13:58] I did [13:59] that's quite *ouch* [13:59] :D [13:59] I just noticed something that might be related, just rebooted to check [13:59] s/rebooted/reflashed/ [13:59] so... what should albert do with those names? [13:59] mzanetti, tsdgeos, SingleGreeter vs. MultiGreeter? [14:00] Saviq: ok for me [14:00] ack [14:00] /food [14:00] jeez it's 4pm already [14:00] yeah... crazy [14:00] * Saviq is 8h in today... [14:00] already [14:00] Saviq: did you just directly start working after leaving the plane or what? [14:01] Saviq: i have no idea how usc got so out of date. It's like something has been overwritten [14:01] mzanetti, I just couldn't sleep much... guess why ;) [14:01] mzanetti, started at 8 [14:01] dednick, is trunk in the same state? [14:01] * mzanetti pities Saviq [14:02] dednick, or maybe it's basically that devel didn't get updated after the last mir release?/ [14:02] -/ [14:02] * mzanetti slept like a baby... and could do for another 10 hours I guess [14:02] Saviq: well trunk is find against mir trunk, so it's probably ok === salem_ is now known as _salem [14:02] but devel hasn't been changed in over a month, but i've been building against trust sessions. [14:02] dednick, yeah, so I'm thinking usc just never got the love [14:02] which are on mir/devel [14:02] :/ [14:03] yay for devel branches, again [14:03] unless maybe my dodgey build script has a bug in it :) === _salem is now known as salem_ [14:03] greyback: heads up, gonna push a merge with trunk to unity8/mirCompositor soon [14:04] mzanetti: go for it, was keeping well away === salem_ is now known as _salem [14:08] mzanetti, on Saturday I just put the hotel balm on ice and used it ~ every hour, which was how often I woke up ;) [14:08] mzanetti, so yeah, fun times ;) last night was much easier already [14:08] Saviq: you should have taken ours... its some special after sun stuff [14:09] but I guess at this stage it wouldn't have done miracles any more either [14:09] mzanetti, indeed [14:09] mzanetti, helped anyway [14:09] mzanetti, found a pharmacy in the morning and got an after-sun gel thingy [14:09] its kinda weird.. you looked ok all day long [14:09] and from one minute to the other you were turning red [14:09] indeed [14:09] I just need to spend more time outside ;) [14:10] with more sunscreen! [14:10] Saviq: aloe! [14:10] when I do stuff like this I always put sunscreen on before breakfast already, to make sure it enters the skin properly by the time I reach the sun === _salem is now known as salem_ [14:11] mzanetti, I got some from greyback when I left the room [14:11] so greyback's sun screen sucks :D [14:11] mzanetti, so that was fine, I think I didn't do enough to update it during the day ;) [14:11] probably [14:12] mzanetti, right, and looking at him you can't see how that's possible, right! [14:12] it has succeeded in protecting my irish skin from getting burned many times, so I suspect E_USER here [14:12] probably 10 years out of date [14:12] no sun in ireland [14:12] lol [14:12] ;D [14:13] PEBTAS [14:13] * greyback has no stinging reply at hand.... [14:13] but I can only imagine what the sun does to you in Malta... in July [14:14] better stay away from there at that time [14:15] it's fine ;) [14:17] good think it's june === salem_ is now known as _salem === _salem is now known as salem_ === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g [14:41] dednick: can you please send me a mail with all the branches you need in that ppa? === salem_ is now known as _salem [14:41] mzanetti: so not too sure about the ppa at the moment. i've got to get everything up to date first. usc isn't at mir/devel, and neither is qtmir. [14:42] dednick: ok, no worries. Just send the mail when you're ready and I'll get going then [14:42] mzanetti: thanks. will do === _salem is now known as salem_ === salem_ is now known as _salem [14:50] going to the grocer's shop now. bbiab [15:04] Saviq, how do I get the vertical center of the first line of text of a two lines label? [15:05] Saviq, trying to align the emblem, easy with 1 line, but with two... boh [15:05] Cimi, you probably want to align with baseline [15:06] Saviq, baseline for two lines is the first? [15:06] Cimi, yes [15:07] Saviq, so emblem... anchors.baseline = ? [15:08] Cimi, title.baseline [15:08] ok [15:08] trying === _salem is now known as salem_ [15:17] Cimi, FWIW it looks like it's not documented [15:17] Saviq, that's why I asked you [15:17] Saviq, I googled, no info, so Saviqoogle [15:20] Cimi, yeah, it looks like http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qml-qtquick-item.html#baselineOffset-prop is the doc for baseline (there's no point in having baselineOffset there) [15:20] Cimi, it's just at the wrong prop [15:21] otoh Item.{top,bottom,left,right,{horizontal,vertical}Center} aren't documented either === salem_ is now known as _salem [15:21] at least not as properties of Item, that is === pete-woods-away is now known as pete-woods [15:34] * tsdgeos goes back to 5.2 [15:35] don't want to fight what may or may not be a 5.3 bug :/ [16:47] Saviq: ping [16:47] bregma: ping [16:48] mhall119, pong? [16:48] bregma: hey, I asked on G+ what sessions people wanted for Ubuntu Online Summit and I got two suggestions: [16:48] 1) Progress report on convergence (Unity 8 desktop) [16:49] 2) Maximizing productivity using Unity [16:49] are either of those something you could give a presentation on with a Q&A after? [16:52] Saviq: ^^ you were going to get the same question :) [16:53] Maybe Trevinho can done one about using Unity 7 [16:53] mhall119, I can probably do a progress report on desktop convergence (although it would be failrly short at this point), I think Marco Trevisan would be better for talking about improving your productivity [16:53] if he's willing [17:01] bregma: sounds good, can I go ahead and create a session for you on summit? [17:08] mhall119, OK, go ahead [17:12] bregma: please register for UOS so I can set you as the presenter: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/registration/ === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD === _salem is now known as salem_ === tedg is now known as ted === ted is now known as tedg === salem_ is now known as _salem === karni is now known as Guest58330