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cmaloneyeeeeeeevening00:54
boren_eve00:55
cmaloneyGoing to get started01:00
cmaloneyWelcome everyone to the June 2014 Ubuntu US MI meeting01:00
cmaloneyWho all is present?01:00
jrwrenbut... but... COSMOS!!!01:03
cmaloneyoh ffs01:04
cmaloney:)01:04
cmaloneyAnywho, here's the link to the agenda:01:05
cmaloneyhttp://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-us-mi/754/detail/01:06
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/xCSCLD - Regular monthly Ubuntu US MI IRC meeting | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal01:06
cmaloneyAs you can see there's not much on the agenda01:06
cmaloneyso it's fortunate that we're competing with COSMOS. ;)01:06
cmaloneyBig item is Ohio Linuxfest is coming up01:06
cmaloneyWho all is going to OLF?01:06
cmaloneyDont all speak up at once. :)01:08
boren_hahaha01:08
happylemurI'll be at OLF!  (I'm the speaker chair this year.)01:09
cmaloneyAwesome!01:09
happylemurPlease check out the call for proposals - due date is July 24.01:10
cmaloneyWill do.01:10
happylemurhttps://ohiolinux.org/CFP01:10
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/OiIhdl - Call for Presentations | Ohio LinuxFest 2014 - The Future of Free01:10
cmaloneyVery cool01:10
cmaloneyNot sure if the Ohio loco will be there this year.01:11
happylemurAny questions about speaking, e-mail speakers@ohiolinux.org.  General questions to team@ohiolinux.org.  We look forward to getting a bunch of attendees from MI again this year!01:11
happylemurYes, in the past we've had Ubucon on Friday, but we haven't made plans yet for this year.01:11
cmaloneyCoolness01:13
cmaloneyWe'd like to be a part of that if possible.01:13
happylemurWe're actually having our planning meeting right now, #ohiolinux on OFTC.  :)  Feel free to stop in.01:14
cmaloneyI think that would be pretty awesome. :)01:14
cmaloneyBah, oftc? No Freenode? :)01:14
cmaloneyAnywho, keep thinking about that in the bacn of your minds01:19
happylemurSure thing, thanks.01:21
cmaloneykk, that's all I have at the moment01:22
cmaloneyother than than you everyone who came out to the Penguicon release party01:22
cmaloney:)01:22
cmaloneyThat was an awesome time01:23
cmaloneyhttps://plus.google.com/+CraigMaloney/posts/bFeQGg5ZcU701:26
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/aeyVIQ - Pictures from the release party01:26
cmaloneyIf anyone has some photos of the party please let me know01:26
cmaloneyAnyone have anything else?01:27
cmaloneyOK, thank you everyone for coming out!01:30
wolfgerlate again... meeting over?01:31
cmaloneyImpeccable timing. :)01:32
wolfgerbut of course01:44
wolfgerusually I'm slightly later and don't even bother trying, but tonight I thought I might catch the tail end01:45
wolfgerI blame everybody else for being punctual and getting right to business. :-p01:45
cmaloneyheh01:47
wolfgeroh well, off to bed.01:50
cmaloneyLaterness02:09
brousch_Is it Friday yet? I'm ready for a weekend12:31
mrgoodcatso tired.12:49
brousch_yes12:50
brousch_Preparing for camping is a lot of work. I'm not sure the relaxation I'll derive from it will compensate for the stress of preparing12:50
mrgoodcatha i hope it does12:54
mrgoodcati just had a super long weekend with very little sleep12:54
mrgoodcatfriday work then water ski, sat. wake up at 7 for belle isle grand prix until 7pm, dinner with gf in detroit, comedy show until midnight, bar until 1:30, sleep 2am to 5am, wake up for waterskiing, ski until 11am, brother's lacrosse tournament until 6pm12:56
cmaloneyYeah, this month is going to be busy for me as well.13:10
cmaloneyAlso: Good morning13:10
brousch_cmaloney: Sorry I missed your meeting again. I was slaying 10 year old hairballs and dustbunnies that were killing my wife and child13:14
cmaloneyWhat's that in human years?13:16
cmaloneybrousch_: Also: no worries.13:16
brousch_We got a ginormous new elliptical and had to clean a room that had become storage for a decade13:17
cmaloneyOh lovely.13:23
brousch_rick_h_: If you want to see bats, walk around this hotel. My wife and I stayed here about 7 years ago. The bats squish themselves into the cracks in the rock facades and sleep all day. It is nuts. http://www.super8.com/hotels/michigan/mackinaw-city/super-8-mackinaw-city-bridgeview-area/hotel-overview14:10
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/QC3SDQ - Super 8 Bridgeview of Mackinaw City | Mackinaw City, MI 49701 Motel14:10
MaskedDriverbrousch_ I got married on Mackinac Island last September. That super 8 is where my family stayed the night before the wedding. They liked it14:25
brousch_Did they notice the bats?14:25
brousch_You might not see them unless you looked closely14:26
cmaloneyAs long as they're not flapping around my head I am A-OK with them doing everything they can to stay out of my way. :)14:29
brousch_If they are flapping around your head that means they are eating the bugs that would be stinging you14:30
MaskedDriverbrousch_: I noticed a few bats. I don't know if they did. My mom would have lost her mind if she saw one.14:55
MaskedDriverNowhere near as many as when you're actually on the island though. There is a staircase that goes up the side of the big hill in front of the fort up to the West Bluff. You walk up those stairs at night and you have bats swarming you.15:00
MaskedDriverI love it15:00
MaskedDrivergets your adrenaline rushing15:00
brousch_Did you get a photo with Jerry3PO while you were there?15:02
MaskedDriverJerry3PO?15:03
MaskedDriveraoh nvm15:03
MaskedDriverlol no15:05
brousch_https://twitter.com/Jerry_3PO15:06
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/e5i7XB - Jerry 3PO (Jerry_3PO) on Twitter15:06
MaskedDriverit was there in September?15:09
brousch_It was by the Boy Scout camp15:11
MaskedDrivercrazy. No, I didn't really get a chance to walk around the island. Was busy getting things ready and then getting married and stuff15:12
MaskedDriveris it still there?15:12
MaskedDriverWe're going up there this september, too15:12
brousch_I don't know15:14
brousch_MaskedDriver: Hah! found the photo https://www.dropbox.com/s/k5kygsdijb1dkih/IMG_0229.JPG15:22
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/baBvsj - Dropbox - IMG_0229.JPG15:22
MaskedDriverlol yeah I saw that15:22
MaskedDriverthere was an article I was looking at that had a better one15:23
MaskedDriverhang on15:23
mrgoodcatMaskedDriver: got married?15:23
MaskedDriverin September15:23
MaskedDriveron Mackinac Island15:23
mrgoodcatcongratulations!15:23
brousch_And from the back side of the fort https://www.dropbox.com/s/1ukphqolydh8vem/IMG_0228.JPG15:23
MaskedDriverthanks15:23
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/0iJ2Fc - Dropbox - IMG_0228.JPG15:23
MaskedDriverhttp://metsguyinmichigan.blogspot.com/2013/10/bad-postcard-of-week-obstacles-of.html15:23
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/IZOdcK - Mets Guy in Michigan: Bad postcard of the week: Obstacles of Mackinac Island15:23
MaskedDriverlast picture brousch_15:23
mrgoodcatbookiebot is one of the most active bmark.us users now15:28
brousch_heh15:28
jrwreni don't remember that giant bust statue15:32
brousch_jrwren: It has a name!15:32
MaskedDriverlol15:33
MaskedDriverI'll take some pics and post them somewhere for you guys if it's still there this year15:33
jrwreni'm going up there later this month :)15:34
brousch_At ArtPrize, I have a photo of my son picking its nose15:34
MaskedDriverjrwren: well go find it!15:35
jrwreni shall15:35
jrwrenand I shall find out if it was there 10 yrs ago when I was last there.15:35
MaskedDriverlol15:35
brousch_No15:35
brousch_It was in ArtPrize 2012. It did not exist before then15:35
brousch_https://twitter.com/Jerry_3PO/status/25066152518077644915:40
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/fmoxzs - Twitter / Jerry_3PO: RT @brousch: Hey @Jerry_3PO ...15:40
brousch_I guess I picked the nose15:40
MaskedDriverlol nice15:41
brousch_It was weird interacting with it at ArtPrize in 2012, then having it randomly show up on Mackinac during our vacation in 201315:41
greg-ghttps://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10306763_10152391240340520_8109214818765804761_n.jpg15:42
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/crgbcx - image/jpeg15:42
MaskedDriverbrousch_: lol yeah I'm sure15:43
MaskedDrivermy wife's family has been going up there every year for the mackinac race every year for the last 10 years. I started going with them a few years ago15:48
jrwrenhrm... beware, if you have a /usr/local/bin/python, even a symlink, dh_make --with-python2 will use it instead of /usr/bin/python when replacing /usr/bin/env16:11
greg-ggrrr, effing googletalkplugin16:24
greg-gI hate google16:24
greg-g1) kept logging me into my personal account even though I was using my work email/password (it auto-linked them), 2) won't let me easily do a hangout with non-@wikimedia.org email address people, and now 3) it spams (>1 message/sec) my stdout with junk during a hangout16:25
jrwrengreg-g: i hate it too... ya know what the solution is?  use chrome and chrome profiles.16:32
jrwrenseriously. I've given up on using google products in FF :(16:32
greg-gI have separate Fx profiles16:38
jrwrenouch. gotta be a way to unlink then.16:39
greg-gyeah, will futz with later16:46
cmaloneyI actually saw this happen. I guy was speeding down a hill near the Grand Hotel – and looked experienced enough to know better – and a driver reached out and whacked him as he sped by.  The driver looked at what must have been my horrified expression and said, “I tried to slow him down.” Didn't work.16:46
cmaloney(from the http://metsguyinmichigan.blogspot.com/2013/10/bad-postcard-of-week-obstacles-of.html link)16:47
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/IZOdcK - Mets Guy in Michigan: Bad postcard of the week: Obstacles of Mackinac Island16:47
mrgoodcatan android phone stock email client can read the inbox but not the folders of an IMAP account. Other clients can read the folders, the same client can read the folders of another imap account. wth?17:31
greg-ghttp://www.sysvalue.com/en/heartbleed-cupid-wireless/17:33
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/cVwyUw - SysValue - Heartbleed, Cupid and Wireless17:33
jrwrenmrgoodcat: why would you use imap. its android email client, gmail only!17:34
jrwren:)17:34
brousch_mrgoodcat: K9 is the usually-recommended imap client for Android17:36
mrgoodcatyea k9 seems to work17:44
mrgoodcatbut i'm pretty stumped by this issue17:44
brousch_The issue is half-assed IMAP clients17:50
brousch_You try it out and conclude "IMAP doesn't work well. I'll just switch to Gmail"17:50
jrwrenand this drives google lock-inn17:51
brousch_Yes17:51
brousch_On the other hand Apple wants you to use IMAP so you don't switch to Gmail, so they give you a nice client17:52
jrwrenindeed.17:52
brousch_At least the ecosystem is open so others can write full-featured apps that compete with Android core apps17:52
jrwrenmostly-open17:53
brousch_I guess they've kicked out porn apps and "hacking" apps17:53
brousch_Of course you can add a third-party app store for those17:53
brousch_I have Google Play, Amazon App Store, and F-Droid app store on my devices.17:54
jrwrenmostly-open stores there :)17:56
jrwreni say mostly-open because you can't add googleplay store on some devices17:56
brousch_That's true17:56
brousch_Although my $40 MK802+ Android-on-a-stick and my $40 el-cheapo tablet have Google Play, so the barrier can't be too high17:59
cmaloneymrgoodcat: I don't think there's a "Standard" android client18:05
cmaloneyI think there's some shit hacked-together client that gets included by default.18:05
cmaloneyMuch like the UNIX mail client.18:06
brousch_cmaloney: http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/10/31/apk-download-heres-the-default-email-app-from-android-4-4-with-gmail-style-ui-and-a-slide-out-menu/18:07
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/Q1gTLp - APK Download: Here's The Default Email App From Android 4.4, With Gmail-Style UI And A Slide-Out Menu18:07
jrwrenwhat do you do with your mk802?18:11
jrwreni've never found a good use for mine.18:11
cmaloneyIt might make a food doorstop assuming your doors aren't too high18:12
cmaloneyPut a sensor on it and it can let you know how much force the door is exerting on it.18:13
brousch_jrwren: I turned it into an extreme pinewood derby car, but not much else18:15
brousch_cmaloney: Hooking sensors to it really requires an Arduino or similar18:15
cmaloneyhow is that even legal Pinewood derby?18:15
brousch_It's not. It's extreme18:16
cmaloneySo whay, you used it as a bumper for the front?18:16
cmaloneyIt'd make a really shit spoiler.18:16
brousch_https://www.facebook.com/events/165575080280158/18:16
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/wuzJKi - Cannonsburg Pintwood Derby presented by Perrin Brewing Co. | Facebook18:16
brousch_The track had 6 lanes, so it was supposed to ride along the actual races and take video18:17
cmaloneyThis webpage is not available18:17
* cmaloney doesn't tell brousch_ that he has facebook.com -> 127.0.0.1 on the router's hosts file. ;)18:17
brousch_Fine http://www.wzzm13.com/video/2656774677001/1/Wooden-cars-fly-at-Pintwood-Derby18:18
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/TnpOBS - Wooden cars fly at Pintwood Derby | Video | wzzm13.com18:18
cmaloneyUses flash18:18
jrwrenbrousch_: cool18:18
brousch_cmaloney: I am not responsible for your self-crippled Internet18:20
cmaloneybrousch_: Why do you hate freedom?18:20
cmaloneybcmutt20:26
cmaloneyheh20:26
cmaloneymissed the CTRL.20:31
_stink_mcbutt21:15
_stink_you're welcome for that.21:15
rick_h_muttbutt?21:15

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