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majorastrowhat is a good ip camera survellance on ubuntu00:00
letstrythisok....00:00
bobo69letstrythis: The "niceness" of a process is a value that tells the linux kernel how much of CPU time each process should get. A process with a high niceness is "nice" because it shares the CPU with everything else. A niceness of 97 means that the process will run with the lowest priotority00:01
letstrythisbobo i believe that this indicates that 97% of the cpu is being used to decide what niceness to run processes with...00:02
letstrythismonitorix is what i'm using and refering too00:03
pickledbeetsi love everything man its like so beautiful to be alive00:04
letstrythisteell that to ukrane and syria...but yes even still i feel the same, just wish i could share it with them too00:05
bobo69letstrythis: ah I see. I'm not familiar with monitrix.00:05
letstrythisty bobo6900:06
SamwiseGamgeeWhere is the CUPS channel?00:14
monfuenteshi some body can help me with ardour 3?00:15
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Bashing-omphi0x: I would be interested in seeing the "formatted" output of Xorg.0.log  . -> cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit <-. See if I can make heads or tails.00:16
SamwiseGamgeeI have a problem with my printer.  The printer is not printing anything, even though the print job is processing.  This is the 27th job I tried to print.  The printer job priority was set to 50, so I changed it to one, but that did not fix the problem. The document print status says the User, File Name, and Time submitted are all unknown.  The status is held.  The only thing Kubuntu recognizes is the Printer model and the size00:24
christopherhmmmm00:26
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perhapstiredHello, could someone kindly tell me whats the command in the cli in ubuntu to see if the latest package of openssl is installed ?00:28
perhapstired(not the version, I'd like to know the package )00:28
rajdoes `python` mean py2 or py3 in ubuntu 14?00:29
rajby default00:29
daftykinsfor which binary is executing?00:30
daftykins'which python'00:30
rajit just says bin/python00:30
raj/usr/bin/python00:30
daftykinsah ok, dpkg -l | grep python00:30
daftykinsthat'd show packages, then you could check version numbers on those packages00:30
rajthat shows python 2 and 3 packages00:32
daftykinslol, classic00:32
rajoh wait00:32
rajduh00:32
rajI just ran pytho00:32
rajn00:32
rajit's python200:32
Beans_Hi, I installed Xubuntu-desktop, didn't like it so I uninstalled it with "apt-get remove". The xubuntu bootscreen is still there after reboot :( as well as the option to boot into xubuntu at login.00:36
Beans_How do I remove this?00:36
daftykinsBeans_: is it doing you any harm?00:37
pancakeranyone here use vsftpd00:37
Beans_Not really, just worried it didn't uninstall correctly.00:37
daftykinsBeans_: you could run "apt-cache policy xubuntu-desktop" to find out each package in it, then remove all those00:38
Beans_thank you!00:39
sickgirlI've been using ubuntu as a test, I was trying to install and during the installation (that failed) and now I don't know how there is one cryptographed  partition of my computer I cannot acess even giving the right password....00:40
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sickgirlsomebody?00:44
shaun_is it make -j5 or make -j 500:45
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phunyguyshaun_, -j5 seems appropriate if you are talking about make options00:47
shaun_phunyguy, thanks couldn't find a definitive answer00:48
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letstrythisokay i m back now what did i miss, anything more on my earlier question?01:03
sickgirlyeah01:04
sickgirlme me o/01:04
sickgirlplese01:04
sickgirlplease*01:04
sickgirlhaha01:04
letstrythisluls01:04
ianorlinlaptopsickgirl what is your question?01:04
letstrythisyou have a question?01:04
sickgirlyepp01:04
sickgirlI'm really tired of trying but ok, let's try again...01:04
sickgirltired of trying to solve this issue01:05
ontopHaving trouble with X. mdm and lightdm both fail to start - Xorg log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7569636/ Xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7569637/ ; mdm[1156] WARNING: Failed to start X server several times in a short time period; disabling display :001:05
ontopAnyone have any ideas?01:05
sickgirlI just fucked up one my partitions while trying to install ubuntu, because I'm using the live session version via usb01:05
letstrythisone econd pls ty fo the paste01:06
sickgirlI dont know how but during the installion of ubuntu I messed up and now this partition is cryptographed and I have no acess and the installation falid01:06
sickgirlfailed*01:06
ianorlinlaptopthis is why backups are nice01:06
sickgirlthis was the partition I wanted to install ubuntu btw01:07
sickgirloh there was nothing there01:07
ianorlinlaptopow so fresh install over that parition?01:07
letstrythisis this a new cd?01:07
letstrythisxD very much helpful people lols01:08
sickgirlianorlinlaptop: was empty but I still don't know how to fix and install01:08
sickgirlI'm dumb.. sorry haha01:08
letstrythisso am i sick girl, this place has helped a lot01:08
sickgirlletstrythis: I'm using usd01:08
sickgirlusb*01:08
Ranieri_I wanna run minecraft on my Mac OS X, and output to my laptop screen, how would I do this?01:09
daftykinssickgirl: just tell the installer to erase the entire disk, simples01:09
skinkittenhello, can I get help on this ===> https://gist.github.com/jsoto008/76c5c7045eb6bb22c8bc01:09
daftykinsRanieri_: Mac OS X is an operating system, only ubuntu is supported here.01:09
IdleOneRanieri_: ask in an OSX support channel01:09
Ranieri_Okay, let me reword it. I want to use my Ubuntu laptop to remotely control another computer01:09
sickgirldaftykins: yeah I thought this would solve, but on the top there is a description I cannot acess, I have no idea what is that. Can I send the image of installation to you guys?01:10
sickgirlI can upload01:10
daftykinssickgirl: sure, upload it to a free image site such as imgur01:10
IdleOneRanieri_: again, if the remote OS is OSX then you need to ask them how to allow remote access01:10
Ranieri_:(01:10
letstrythissick girl i agree it sounds like you can use the live cd, delete/overwrite previous installl, try not to repeat same mistakes xD uncheck get updates etc01:10
sickgirlI will upload to tumblr, its faster. brb01:10
Ranieri_I tried to be sneaky IdleOne :D01:10
IdleOneRanieri_: yeah, not appreciated01:10
Ranieri_Sorry IdleOne01:11
letstrythisokay.01:11
syeekickhow would i totally remove a programme with all the configuartions in ubuntu ?01:11
syeekicksudo apt-get purge pkgname ?01:11
IdleOnepurge --remove package01:12
daftykinssudo apt-get remove --purge package01:12
letstrythisif the usb drive itself is damaged...it may not be useable at all...they wear out too01:12
letstrythisi burn up usb-ssd's for raided swap/pagefiles01:13
letstrythisi need some real ssd's/hybrid drives =/01:14
daftykinsyou use USB flash drives for swap?01:15
letstrythisyup01:15
letstrythisallows the hd to spin down01:15
letstrythisaccess  is faster for small files01:15
ianorlinlaptopthat wears them out01:15
daftykinsianorlinlaptop: that was indeed just mentioned01:16
daftykinsletstrythis: heh, yeah i would not do that :) i don't even permit disk spin down01:16
daftykinsanyway, we're off topic.01:16
letstrythisneeds tweaking for ubuntu but ots a classic mod i do with all pc's01:16
letstrythisthe ones i use are already done mostly unles it needs to be up in ha type stuff01:17
letstrythisdafty -ubuntu-01:17
daftykinsletstrythis: ?01:17
daftykinssounds like a seriously terrible idea :)01:18
letstrythisthis is an ongoing issue i a having with setting up something as close to rt-ha as i can01:18
daftykinssickgirl: did you get that image uploaded yet?01:19
letstrythismore specificically, i'm currently tying to make sure my cpus aren't overdoing things unessicarily01:19
sickgirldaftykins: ooh how great just realized that print+screen doesn't work here01:19
sickgirlhaah01:19
sickgirlhaha01:19
letstrythismonitorix says my nice is 97%...i have no idea what to make of this, daftykins01:20
daftykinssickgirl: should just auto-run a screenshot creator, are you on a laptop?01:20
sickgirlyepp01:20
daftykinssickgirl: it's not one of those keys that awkwardly requires the Fn be pressed with it or something?01:20
sickgirlI'm still learning everything here01:21
sickgirlgimme some time01:21
sickgirllol01:21
daftykinsdid you come from Windows?01:21
sickgirlhahaha01:21
sickgirlfrom mars I guess01:21
letstrythislols01:21
daftykinsit won't be any different to hit the print-screen key01:21
sickgirlok01:22
BlessJahshouldn't be there any announcement on http://one.ubuntu.com about shutdown?01:22
daftykinssometimes in live sessions, i've seen it not function the first time if the computer is a bit slow01:22
wilee-nileesickgirl, Thought is was venus daftykins is from mars. ;)01:22
daftykinsletstrythis: sorry i have no experience with niceness - also i can't help but lol at that :(01:23
agent_whitesickgirl: Check out "scrot". It's good for screenshots.01:23
letstrythisty dafty, i'll get a screenshot saved01:23
rwwBlessJah: there is, once you log in.01:23
letstrythisand try tp do some more reaserach too01:24
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wilee-nilee!tab | letstrythis get the nicks correct01:31
ubottuletstrythis get the nicks correct: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.01:31
englevaktenhave any one of you tried tex murphy?01:32
sickgirlagent_white: thank you, sorry I was out..01:32
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sickgirlwilee-nilee: man, I never seen someone so slow with computers... (ME)01:32
wilee-nileeenglevakten, this is support, no polling, address the actual issue.01:32
wilee-nileesickgirl, We have all been there, not a worry, a whole different OS can be daunting. ;)01:33
agent_whitesickgirl: No worry!01:35
daftykinssickgirl: sadly i must disappear as it's late in my timezone, but feel free to address the channel where someone else will no doubt assist01:37
sickgirldaftykins: ok. thank you! have a gnight01:37
BlessJahrww: i mean for non-logged users01:40
BlessJahonly blog and services tabs contain information about shutdown01:41
Impossiblehello would i be able to install ubuntu on a 25gb partition without any problems, or does the harddrive ammount affect speed01:49
Impossiblei will be dual booting to ubuntu01:49
ianorlinlaptopImpossible: it would work but don't go isntalling virtual macihnes or you could run out of space01:50
vishnuYou can install but sometimes it can go out of space issues01:50
Impossibleso the problem is running out of space? not speed issues? vishnu ianorlinlaptop01:51
fox_hi01:53
fox_every one01:53
ianorlinlaptopnot too sure of speed issues could slow down a little but I don't know from personal expirence01:53
ianorlinlaptopI have done 40 gb and no noticeable difference01:53
sickgirlJust learned commands now =)01:55
sickgirlhaha01:55
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ki7mtImpossible, I have a full dev environment, right at 8 pbuilder installs, and my du -sh is right at 8.9GB in a 14.04 Desktop install.01:55
ki7mtHowever, you start sticking ISO's, DVD's, ton's of images and such, each disk space in a hurry.01:56
ki7mteats ..01:56
Impossibleyou are pro01:59
sickgirlwilee-nilee: daftykins agent_white letstrythis  anyone still there? http://31.media.tumblr.com/5889f505f123a198097e53f98f8d0295/tumblr_n6ir6kgGWm1qzys8vo1_1280.png02:08
englevaktenr u spamming=02:09
englevakten?02:09
wilee-nilee!who | englevakten02:09
ubottuenglevakten: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)02:09
wilee-nileesickgirl, Are you trying to install ubuntu now?02:10
englevakten:ubot sry02:10
Girly`hi02:10
sickgirlwilee-nilee: yeah02:10
sickgirlhave you been following my conversation here?02:10
wilee-nileesickgirl, Do you know what sda3 is?02:11
wilee-nilee<sickgirl> have you been following my conversation here? Not explicitly no.02:11
sickgirlwell I would only keep sda2 and 3, the 3 is empty and is the place I want to install ubuntu02:12
ImpossibleI am doing the same thing! sickgirl I shrunk my hdd to make a new space for ubntu02:12
sickgirlwilee-nilee:  is a long story, Im using an live session via usb, and was trying to install without reading a manual or guide, and ended up fucking up the partition 302:12
wilee-nileesickgirl, If sda 3 is empty I would delete it and use the screen before, it will allow you to just install in the unallocated space.02:13
sickgirlwilee-nilee: and created a cryptographed space and my installation failed. see how great?02:13
sickgirlahahahaha02:13
sickgirlwilee-nilee:  the first line there is the part I created I have no idea how to delete it02:13
Impossiblewilee-nilee, but one could also manual partition right? like root,swap and home? installing the ubuntu in home partition correct?02:14
wilee-nileesickgirl, There is a partitioner in ubuntu called gparted, so you can close the installer open gparted and delete sda3, if you want encryption I have no clue there.02:14
sickgirlImpossible: Im sorry hahaha I'm stuck about hours learning this stuff .. grrrr02:14
wilee-nileeImpossible, I'm not talking with nor do I want your help. Ubuntu basically advises a one partion and swap install.02:15
wilee-nileepartition*02:15
sickgirlwilee-nilee: the big problem is that I just wanted to install ubuntu in this partition. I Don't want to delete it. I was talking about this first line appearing I don't know what it is02:15
wilee-nileeImpossible, If you want to help the user go for it.02:15
sickgirldev mapper luks blah blah blah02:15
Impossiblewilee-nilee, I was asking you, I was not trying to help anyone. We misunderstood each other, sorry. I was asking you if what i said was correct.02:16
wilee-nileesickgirl, I know nothing about luks, and to be honest encryption is a good way to loose all your data in my opinion.02:16
Solom+1 ^02:16
sickgirlwilee-nilee: I see, nah I was showing the first like it says dev/mapper/luks. in the imagine I sent, can you see it?02:17
sickgirlthis was the space I created after the cryptographed thing02:17
sickgirlline*02:17
wilee-nileesickgirl, I can appreciate your wanting help, however I don't know some of what you want, and am not patient enough to work through it, just a personality trait, I exspect users here to be able to take some info and run with it is all. ;)02:18
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sickgirlhaha02:19
sickgirlok02:19
mickeyHello02:19
sickgirlthank you anyway02:20
Impossiblehi02:20
wilee-nileesickgirl, Nothing personal, I learned it myself, so expect others to is all. ;) Great helpers here who will get you set up though.02:20
sickgirlwilee-nilee: no worries =)02:20
wilee-nileecool02:20
bitcoinassassinso....... how to mount an encrypted partition using a live install disk, please; I realize this is an involved, multistep process; I want to copy the contents to another drive - which I will plug into the laptop with the borked ubuntu install..... I'm just looking for a link to a how-to. thanks.02:21
wilee-nileeI rest my case on encryption^^^^^^^^^^02:22
Impossiblelol!02:22
bitcoinassassinexactly02:22
bitcoinassassinwhat a cluster ****02:22
mickeyuhhhmm i have a problem with ubuntu 14.04 and i asked in a community in google plus called ubuntu.02:22
mickeyI was then directed here.02:22
bitcoinassassinmickey what is the problem02:23
mickeyCan i repost my question here?02:23
wilee-nileeyes02:23
bitcoinassassinforget the preludes02:23
mickeyI am on ubuntu 14.0402:23
diogoafwhatsapp lubuntu 14.0402:23
mickeyand i want to create a shared wifi connection.02:24
wilee-nileemickey, All in one post please02:24
bitcoinassassinor, mickey, create a post @ pastebin.ubuntu.com and give us the link02:24
bitcoinassassina post with everything in it02:24
mickeyThe problem is, i am able to create it but my android device is unable to detect the signal. Whereas i was able to create a shared connection and use it when i was on Kubuntu02:25
mickeyany help?02:25
bitcoinassassinnow my head hurtz02:25
deluxe247hi guys i need some help. i need to build a module but am unsure of how to do so without building a kernel. can anyone help with this?02:25
wilee-nileemickey, The computer using ethernet? why not use the wifi if it is there?02:26
lifehappyhello02:26
mickeyMy computer is using a 3g dongle02:26
wilee-nilee!details > deluxe247 describe the issue02:26
ubottudeluxe247, please see my private message02:26
lifehappy i firs use this02:27
lifehappynew to ubuntu02:27
bitcoinassassinlifehappy..... please. ask a question02:27
skinuxI need some help getting Netflix Desktop working, please.02:28
wilee-nileemickey, If you have had it working, sounds like a android issue you might try #android02:28
skinuxI installed Pipelight-plugin, enabled both silverlight and shockwave, and I have a user-agent switcher installed.02:28
wilee-nilee!netflix > skinux02:28
ubottuskinux, please see my private message02:28
wilee-nileeskinux, 3rd part and a ppa, not technically supported here, but someone might help, just a heads up is all.02:29
deluxe247wilee-nilee, I have my kernel and headers installed. I have cloned the drivers source into the /usr/lib/modules/kernel/build/drivers/video and now need to build the module and install but cant find good instructions02:29
mickeyIts not an android issue, reason being when i got this problem, i switched back to kubuntu and it was able to detect it. But then i switch back to ubuntu and i am stuck with the same problem02:30
skinuxI've already done what that page says to do.02:30
wilee-nileedeluxe247, Not to me, to the channel, details rule here.02:30
wilee-nileemickey, Was kubuntu the desktop when you installed and you added ubuntu?02:31
mickeyNope, i installed kubuntu iso from windows. i didnt install kubuntu desktop on ubuntu. If thats what you are asking02:32
wilee-nileemickey, This a virtual or wubi?02:32
wilee-nileemickey, "i installed kubuntu iso from windows." this is confusing.02:33
wilee-nileeskinux, Who are you talking to and what page?02:34
mickeyI am saying i installed kubuntu distro, using wubi from windows02:34
wilee-nileemickey, Ah, well wubi is not supported is all, and the one, yes I said one support person has a thread on the ubuntu forums.02:35
wilee-nileemickey, wubi was for trying out in lieu of a dualboot.02:35
mickeyYea. I only used wubi for kubuntu not ubuntu02:36
mickeyi placed ubuntu on a flashdrive and installed it through bios02:36
wilee-nileemickey, So you are comparing two fully different installs, one not even supported, as this works this was does not?02:37
wilee-nileeone*02:37
anonymous12321Hello02:37
finishing-rubenptest02:38
anonymous12321Your good02:38
mickeyAs far as i know wubi isnt supported for laptops shipped with windows 8 preinstalled02:38
wilee-nileemickey, has not been officially supported for awhile W8 or not.02:38
mickeybut my pc didnt ship with windows 802:38
anonymous12321Why would you get windows 8?02:39
anonymous12321The format is to wierd for me.02:39
wilee-nilee!ot | anonymous1232102:39
ubottuanonymous12321: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:39
mickeyOOkay then. But i was able to install kubuntu and use the wifi sharing back then, why cant i use this feature in ubuntu 14.0402:39
wilee-nileemickey, Anyway, beyond my help opacity, best of luck, and use nicks of the person you are addressing every time02:40
wilee-nileecapacity*02:40
mickeyOkay. This is my first time using irc02:41
triplcHi all02:47
triplcWhat package to install to get gvfs access to Windows fileserver? Currently i install minimal ubuntu 12.04 without gvfs02:48
bitcoinassassintriplc, I don't know... maybe gvfs package02:54
triplci see02:55
triplci read Archlinux pages, and it told me gvfs-smb... well, ubuntu does not have package in that name. i think it is the naming issue02:55
bitcoinassassintriplc, what is it you want to do?02:57
bitcoinassassintriplc, if you have installed synaptic, you can search for gvfs02:57
bitcoinassassin:-)02:57
wilee-nilee!info gvfs02:58
ubottugvfs (source: gvfs): userspace virtual filesystem - GIO module. In component main, is optional. Version 1.20.1-1ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 87 kB, installed size 565 kB02:58
triplcbitcoinassassin: yes... i search, and ubuntu have gvfs-fuse, -backends,... etc.. but not gvfs-smb02:58
bitcoinassassinthis is not archlinux02:58
triplcanyway i am trying to install gvfs-fuse + gvfs-backends and see02:58
triplcyeah... different distro02:59
wilee-nileetriplc, If you are not running ubuntu you are on the wrong channel.02:59
bitcoinassassinI think he's running ubuntu but searching for something using a package name from archlinux... and I'm trying to tell him the package name is going to be different03:00
wilee-nileeah03:00
bitcoinassassinwithout any luck, I might add03:00
triplcwilee-nilee: i am using ubuntu03:01
wilee-nileecool03:01
triplcit's only that i install a minimal system and now trying to connect to windows fileserver03:01
triplcit should be ok out of the box for "normal install ubunutu"03:01
bitcoinassassintriplc, do you have synaptic installed? bc i fyou do, you can search for gvfs and you will see a punch of packages listed including gvfs-fuse03:02
triplcbut as for minimal, i want to know which package to install03:02
bitcoinassassinand I'm trying to tell you but you're not listening03:02
wilee-nileetriplc, You haver no desktop right? allcli03:03
bitcoinassassinif you want to install samba - if you haven't, then do that.03:03
triplcbitcoinassassin: yes... i searched, and found gvfs-common -fuse -backends... but nothing related to samba/smb03:03
bitcoinassassinomg...... forget it03:03
triplcwilee-nilee: i have a bare bone desktop03:03
bitcoinassassintriplc, it's just called samba03:03
bitcoinassassinok?03:04
bitcoinassassinbang bang bang goes my head03:04
triplci thought the "smb://.." has things to do with gvfs03:04
bitcoinassassinsudo apt-get install samba03:04
bitcoinassassinok?03:05
triplcok03:05
bitcoinassassinotherwise, you're not paying attention03:05
bitcoinassassinand I'm out03:06
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wardhanhi all. does the installation of e18 remove desktop short cuts also ?03:22
mindbender1I've done `apt-get install libapache2-mod-fastcgi php5-fpm php5` but I still can't see /usr/lib/cgi-bin/php5-cgi. I can only see usr/lib/cgi-bin/php503:24
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lotuspsychjemorning to all03:52
glennrfisherHello there, lotuspsychje!03:53
lotuspsychjewhats the name of the GUI useraccounts icon, and is it possible to purge it so one can only add users from terminal?03:55
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joe-w-bimedinahow can I create a variable of a path to a folder with a date in the name. use mkdir to make a folder at that location and then use cd to move into that path in bah04:00
joe-w-bimedinabash04:00
arun_hey all04:08
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lotuspsychjearunpyasi: hello mate04:08
whoeverarunpyasi: hey04:08
arunpyasihow are u guys ?04:08
lotuspsychjehow can i set a homepage on webbrowser-app?04:10
whoeverlotuspsychje: what brower04:11
lotuspsychje!info webbrowser-app | whoever04:12
ubottuwhoever: webbrowser-app (source: webbrowser-app): Ubuntu web browser. In component main, is optional. Version 0.23+14.04.20140428-0ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 551 kB, installed size 1572 kB04:12
gasshoplease update hexchat to 2.1004:12
gasshoin tehRepos :)04:12
lotuspsychjegassho: shows 2.9 indeed04:13
whoeverlotuspsychje: are you taalking about android04:14
lotuspsychjewhoever: no mate, webbrowser-app comes by default in 14.0404:14
whoeverlotuspsychje: ok, I see it, but am curoius why use that instead of firefox or chrome04:16
gasshohttp://hexchat.github.io/news/2.10.0.html04:16
maddawg2can someone help me... i really just screwed up BIG time... i accidentally deleted a very important directory and now need to reinstall ubuntu04:16
whoeverlotuspsychje: i also don't see any setting/ pref option04:16
maddawg2however i have a couple files i need to backup to an nfs and i cant seem to mount it from the ubuntu live cd04:17
wilee-nileemaddawg2, No help without a description to the channel, if someone knows they will probably answer.04:17
maddawg2tells me it cant find it in the /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab04:17
lotuspsychje!info testdisk | maddawg204:17
ubottumaddawg2: testdisk (source: testdisk): Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.14-2 (trusty), package size 534 kB, installed size 1269 kB04:17
maddawg2theres nothing wrong with my disk tho lotuspsychje04:18
maddawg2i deleted an entire directory as root04:18
maddawg2not a disk04:18
lotuspsychjemaddawg2: you can recover data with this package04:18
maddawg2but i dont really know which directory i broke04:18
maddawg2i think i'd rather do a clean install cux there are other issues as well04:19
maddawg2but without being able to backup the files i need i'm a bit concerned04:19
lotuspsychjemaddawg2: with testdisk you can scan whole hd to recover data04:20
wilee-nilee!details | maddawg2 all in one post please.04:20
ubottumaddawg2 all in one post please.: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)04:20
wilee-nilee!backups > maddawg204:20
ubottumaddawg2, please see my private message04:20
maddawg2wilee-nilee I am trying to mount an NFS share using the command line from the ubuntu boot disk... however it tells me that it cant find it in the /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab04:21
maddawg2i only have one file to backup but i need to back it up to an NFS04:21
maddawg2it's a vm and i have no physical access to the machine to use another hard drive04:22
maddawg2however i do have a share on another vm i can copy it to if i can somehow get it mounted04:22
wilee-nileemaddawg2, To the channel, I'm just trying to get you orientated for help. #1 detials #2 in single concise posts....etc04:22
maddawg2i see....04:23
wilee-nileemaddawg2, This a virtual on your computer, or on the web?04:24
maddawg2it's at a remote location04:24
maddawg2it's a vm guest on a vmware esxi at a datacenter04:25
maddawg2a datacenter about 2k miles from me04:25
maddawg2this is why i dont have physical access otherwise i;'d throw the files to a disk and call it done04:25
wilee-nileemaddawg2, Ah cool, others will help better with his. Just be sure to preface any answers to another using their nick. The tab key will complete nicks.04:26
maddawg2only in some clients :-P04:26
wilee-nileethis*04:26
maddawg2i think i just got an idea...  I might be able to add a secondary drive to the machine to back this up to04:26
maddawg2a virtual drive04:26
snickHi, I need some help please04:26
maddawg2dunno why i didnt think of that before04:26
snick:)04:27
wilee-nilee!details | snick We allneed help but04:27
ubottusnick We allneed help but: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)04:27
snickHave a few issues with installing 7.10 screen message , think Ive stuffed whole thing04:27
wilee-nileesnick, What release is this?04:28
wilee-nileeUbuntu release that is*04:29
snickWell...I used to have Ubuntu 7 on my system, hadnt been on internet to update software as we moved, to cut a long story short, Ive tried to install from disk again, it picked up Ubuntu 8 in system, yay! did it, but then before I saved my stuff it said to upgrade to 10, which took hrs and seemd fine, it never opened, so i fiddled and fiddled into BIOS etc, seemed to get 7 back but screen message said 'OUT OF RANGE"04:30
snicksince then it went to imitram conf..04:30
wilee-nileesnick, What ubuntu release are you using right now to do this work in?04:31
snickworried iive done damage...wondered if i should try dowloading latest version 14, tried to dowload but didnt burn well...04:31
snickUbuntu 7.10, wilww-nilee...but it never opened to proper screen04:32
snickim silly to try to fix myself but couldnt help it!04:32
snickIm on a work pc, at home i have a Mac I can dowload from04:33
hwolffHi, I just purchased parts for a new computer. I'll have a 1TB HDD, 120GB SSD, and want to have both Win 8.1 and Ubuntu on it.04:33
wilee-nileesnick, 7.10 is end of life not supported period, you need either 12.04, or 14.04. 13.10 is supported till july as another option, the first two have 5 years suppofrt from release date.04:33
hwolffWhat is the best way to do it? Is there some information on what to put where?04:33
wilee-nileehwolff, Kinda beyond support here however if it were me I would put the OS on the SSD and use the 1000tb for holding the extra stuff, but that is an opinion, everyone has one. ;)04:35
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wilee-nileehwolff, Both Os on the SSD starting with windows first, than ubuntu.04:36
hwolffwilee-nilee: Thanks, that's what I suspected. But I am mostly asking about how best to get dual-boot.04:36
hwolffOkay, thanks04:36
maddawg2effing great.... now i cant see the directory i need04:36
wilee-nileehwolff, There is no best except in your eyes.04:36
maddawg2i can see it in the gui but it wont list in the terminal04:37
SchrodingersScatmaddawg2: how did you mount it?04:37
wilee-nileehwolff, The only best I think is relevant is having windows at the front of whatever disc for easy repair access.04:37
wilee-nilee!dualboot | hwolff this might help04:38
ubottuhwolff this might help: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot04:38
maddawg2i didnt mount it SchrodingersScat i gave up... i decided to just add a second virtual drive... that mounted without issues... however the file i am trying to copy over from my drive does not show in the terminal04:38
maddawg2only in nautilus04:38
maddawg2trying to see if it's a permissions issue04:39
snickSo with the possible mess I could have made? with trying to partition etc iall weekend, is it possible for me to burn and install version 14 without too much trouble, and without a good base?04:39
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maddawg2i'm pretty sure that's the issue but one would think that just using "sudo ls" would show it, but it doesnt04:39
snickI tried burning it earler but it burned only one image which i read was not good04:39
hwolffThanks04:39
maddawg2nope04:39
wilee-nileesnick, It is released and many do it every day, it comes down to your skills in the end.04:39
maddawg2WTF WTF04:39
snicknot sure what is going on really, i hope all my music and pictures are still there but i fear not04:40
snicki just want it to work!04:40
wilee-nilee<snick> I tried burning it earler but it burned only one image which i read was not good  check the sum of the download04:40
maddawg2ok now i'm really freaking lost...   if i click on the directory via gui i can see the backup folder i created but i have no permissions to modify it04:40
cfhowlett!md5sum|snick you only need ONE image.  verify the downloaded ISO, then verify the burned USB04:40
maddawg2or copy04:40
ubottusnick you only need ONE image.  verify the downloaded ISO, then verify the burned USB: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows04:40
maddawg2or move04:40
snicki know , so if i burn it again is it easy enough to install, over the mess ive made of the other bios stuff?04:40
maddawg2if i look in the terminal and cd to the directory where I know it is it does not list it and i am using SUDO04:41
maddawg2WHY?????04:41
wilee-nileesnick, Not answerable we do not know what you have done or your skill level.04:41
maddawg2why can nautilus see it but not the command line04:41
wilee-nileesnick, Get a bootable release supported and you should have access to 7.1004:42
wilee-nileebefore installing04:42
cfhowlettmaddawg2 in your terminal, exit until it shuts down.  then restart it, search again04:42
scrototbagginshello is there anybody in there04:42
cfhowlettscrototbaggins only a few thousand.  ask your ubuntu questions.04:42
snickskill level-not very good, have tried to install 7.10 as 10 went on but didnt open, i got to the point of 7.10 loading but then terminal stuff username passwd, then ubuntu@susan -~$04:42
snickover my head, just please let me know if i can put 14  on with out later versions...04:43
scrototbagginsevening, cfhowlett. where can i find a channel related to apache204:43
scrototbagginsis it #apache04:43
cfhowlettscrototbaggins #apache04:43
scrototbagginslol thanks bye04:43
wilee-nileesnick, At this point a booted live environment will give us the tools to help you, other wise it is conjecture.04:44
snickso no 14? where do i get a bootable live environment04:44
maddawg2cfhowlett nope didnt work04:44
snicki need to have someone on the phone when im doing it!!04:44
maddawg2interestingly if i assign a password to root and login as root i can see it fine in nautilus04:45
wilee-nileesnick, I did not say 14.04, the ubuntu downloads are for a live boot to install from.04:45
wilee-nileeno 14.04 was not discussed04:45
snickno, sorry but i wondered that and asked before, could i not do that?04:46
wilee-nileesnick, You can pay canonical for support, here it is free and volunteers, no phone.04:46
wilee-nileesnick> no, sorry but i wondered that and asked before, could i not do that? I do not understand the point. I mentioned the supported releases, anyone of which will work for access.04:47
snickso simply saying sorry, what is my next step? I wondered why it wouldnt load, i couldnt get into it, OUT OF RANGE04:47
snickfollowed direction in help to change screen res but led to more probs04:47
wilee-nileesnick, Does not matter here 7.10 is not supported.04:48
maddawg27.10??04:48
maddawg2WOAH... that's a classic04:48
maddawg2that's about the version I started using ubuntu04:48
maddawg2or was it 7.04 i cant remember04:48
wilee-nileesnick, Take a deep breath, get a ubuntu releas on a dvd or usb boot to the desktop and we can help from there, before you install.04:48
snick:) calmness prevails..yes so can i get one on dvd of 1404:49
wilee-nilee!14.04 | snick04:49
ubottusnick: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download at http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04 - Read the release notes at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes04:49
snickyes 14.0404:50
snicksorry xo04:50
snickdo i get desktop04:50
wilee-nileesnick, WE want and can help, but just need some parameters to do so in.04:50
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maddawg2that's what my support group told me04:51
wilee-nileesnick> do i get desktop, yes the ubuntu download has a desktop, they all do except for server downloads or the mini netload.04:51
snickSo im imagining it will install over the stuff thats on it, doesnt need to go on top of the previous versions that are stable? does that make sens?04:52
maddawg2it will wipe whatever you have04:52
wilee-nileesnick, YOU have that choice, it seems at the moment recovering your stuff is paramount.04:52
snicki think i wiped it trying to install version 10, that i couldnt find until i was trying agin with 7.10 and saw it in the list to choose from, it couldnt open04:53
snicki skipped a few steps, setting up http...got lost in the partitioning part04:54
wilee-nileesnick, We can't tell for sure without you booting the ubuntu live.04:54
snickso bad04:54
snickive tried to find that but i couldnt04:54
wilee-nileeubottu> snick: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download at http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04 - Read the release notes at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes   snick go here04:54
ubottuwilee-nilee: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)04:54
snicka bot with feelings...thank you04:55
snickill try downloading Trsuty Tahr and see how i go04:55
wilee-nileesnick, Anyway, you have to stop posting, get the live, boot it and come back for help.04:55
snickoh sorry how many am i allowed?04:55
maddawg2sheesh... why does Ubuntu need to spend 20minutes downloading language packs... i only speak one damn language04:55
wilee-nileesnick, how many what?04:56
cfhowlettmaddawg2 speed of your download is a problem with your ISP, not ubuntu04:57
snickposts04:57
maddawg2speed of my download is 1gbps04:57
maddawg2it's ubuntu04:57
maddawg2the fact that it needs to download more than one language is an issue04:57
wilee-nileesnick, No limit, but you are giving us your emotional state and worries, this is straight support not counseling. ;)04:57
cfhowlettmaddawg2 so your saying your language support is several 120 gigs?  me thinks not.04:58
snickhaha04:58
ianorlinlaptop!mirror | maddawg204:58
ubottumaddawg2: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Trusty, and help keeping the servers' load low!04:58
snickgod is it that obvious! sorry!04:58
maddawg2hence why it's an issue for ubuntu04:58
ianorlinlaptopsorry there are also repo mirrors that might be faster04:58
maddawg2cuz it's the upload04:58
cfhowlettmaddawg2 did you localize your mirror?04:58
wilee-nileesnick, NO biggie, we jsut want you fixed and on the road again.04:58
snickI'll be back! Thanks04:59
wilee-nileecool we will be here snick ;)04:59
maddawg2cfhowlett localize my mirror?05:00
maddawg2i already have the iso05:00
ianorlinlaptopthere are also mirrors for the repos of other things you install from repositories05:00
maddawg2ok but can I select them while installing ubuntu05:00
maddawg2?05:00
ianorlinlaptopnot sure about while installing05:01
maddawg2yea that's the issue05:01
ianorlinlaptopah05:01
jrockjiggzHi.. new user here.. i'm trying to install program that downloaded as .run file.  I try 'chmod +x file.run'  then '/.file.run' and nothing happens...05:01
maddawg2i am trying to do the install but it's taking forever to download the language packs... never seen it take this long before05:01
maddawg2http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/353750848605:02
maddawg2bandwidth is a bit lower than normal right now but not enough to take 30 minutes to download language packs05:03
maddawg2downloading the language padcks at a womping 30KB/s05:04
maddawg2crazy05:04
jrockjiggzif I just double click the .run file, nothing happens. (Permissions: 'Allow executing file as program' is enabled)05:04
cfhowlettmaddawg2 future reference: download the DVD ISO as it has all the language packs05:05
jrockjiggzI dont know how to install a program on ubuntu then/05:05
maddawg2this is the dvd05:05
letstrythisfrack05:05
cfhowlettmaddawg2 then it shouldn't be downloading language packs!   unless you don't have it listed in your software sources05:06
maddawg2well considering it's a fresh install i dont see how i'd have anything05:06
wilee-nileejrockjiggz, What did you download?05:06
cfhowlettmaddawg2 think.  language packs on DVD.  yet your system is DOWNLOADING language packs?  means it's NOT using the DVD as a source.05:07
maddawg2it's booted from a DVD05:07
maddawg2the DVD from the website05:07
maddawg2i am installing from said DVD05:07
cfhowlettmaddawg2 the DVD ISO or you MADE a DVD?05:07
maddawg2the DVD iso05:07
jrockjiggzwilee-nilee: file is 'bitnami-lampstack-5.4.28-0-linux-installer.run' -- could be because it is 32-bit, i guess i need 64bit file05:07
cfhowlettmaddawg2 unexpected behavior that is ...05:08
maddawg2indeed05:08
maddawg2yet here i am05:08
wilee-nileejrockjiggz, You only have support here for stuff from the ubuntu repos, are you sure this was the best option?05:08
jrockjiggzwilee-nilee: yes, x64 worked05:08
maddawg2i'm just waiting it out now cuz it will be done in a couple minutes according to the estimated time on the progress thingy mahoo05:09
jrockjiggzwilee-nilee: i'll check out the repo, thanks for your help05:09
wilee-nileejrockjiggz, Cool.05:09
maddawg2oh... it has a skip option05:09
maddawg2who knew05:09
* maddawg2 clicks skip05:09
maddawg2now i'm cooking with fire05:09
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dmarri have a user in sudo group but still prompted for pass when sudo'ing05:25
rwwdmarr: that's normal. the sudo group just means they match %sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL in sudoers05:27
arun_guys !!! which software is best for power consumption and over heating thing to be controlled ?05:27
rwwdmarr: (i.e., they can use sudo)05:28
ianorlinlaptoppowertop can be used to reduce power some not sure it can help with overheating much05:28
VoyageI have ubuntu server, I want to install kubuntu desktop on it. How can I do that?05:31
cfhowlettVoyage sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:31
Voyagethats all?05:32
cfhowlettVoyage eazy peazy05:32
Voyagehm thanks05:33
ben14hey guys, I tried installing ffmpeg by doing this in the terminal : 'sudo apt-get install ffmpeg' but it says package ffmpeg unavailable. what do I do05:40
cfhowlettBEN14 ffmpeg is deprecated.  install avconv instead05:42
braindroppphello, can anyone help me with an issue regarding Intel Turbo Boost? I upgraded to an i7 today, and it does not seem to work. I followed steps here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37618/is-turbo-boost-working and ran modprobe msr, but the turbostat application does not seem to exist. I am running 10.04 server05:42
LostCatShould I just install Bumblebee, or should I install the NVIDIA drivers provided by NVIDIA first?05:45
VoyageCan anyone tell a good free tool for making project timelines, system diagrams, UMLs, class diagrams, Database relational diagram of tables. I actually need all those diagrams.05:47
arun_guys !!! which software is best for power consumption and over heating thing to be controlled ?05:47
Churchto me nvidia optimus looks more like way to go, as that seems like what will have more dedicated support from misc distributions & vendor driver devs , with bumblebee more like interim hack, while in some cases showing better results, but no so long term way to go05:47
Churchvoyage: something like visio?05:48
vilambitben14: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jon-severinsson/ffmpeg05:48
vilambitben14: sudo apt-get update05:48
vilambitben14: sudo apt-get install ffmpeg05:48
VoyageChurch,  ok05:49
VoyageChurch,  visio is linux based and free?05:50
cfhowlettVoyage no visio is from M$05:50
jointwhat do you people think about secure boot?05:50
claudiohi ,05:51
koellhii05:51
Voyagecfhowlett,  Church  so visio is the best tool there?05:52
LostCatthanks church :)05:52
cfhowlettVoyage never said that.  I was merely responding to "what is visio"?05:52
claudiodoes anybody has a good link for acestream for ubuntu 14.04 ? i am quite new on ubuntu..05:53
ChurchVoyage: there are some free visio alternatives.05:55
GorxHi! What should I format my new 1TB HDD as and why?05:56
Gorx(for storage)05:56
ChurchGorx: in linux i'd prefer using lvm for storage allocation which should give you extra flexibility & online reconfiguration.05:56
GorxChurch: What extra flexibility and what does "online reconfiguration" mean? :)05:57
ChurchGorx: as in online reducing/extending filesystems, online moving filesystems between disks, spanning filesystems upon several disks and so on05:58
Churcheek. retracting reducing bit. while on lvm level you can lvreduce, most fs-es from those that can be reduced, need to be umounted prior that05:59
GorxChurch: Okay, but I do NOT see "lvm" listed in GParted?05:59
Gorx"lvm2 pv"?06:00
cfhowlettVoyage http://www.osalt.com/visio06:00
Churchgorx: gparted just gives options to create partitions of preset size and assign their type, so in this case yes, lvm2 pv (i myself prefer not creating partitions, just using whole disk as lvm physical volume)06:00
GorxChurch: Ah, I see.06:01
GorxAnother question for you.06:01
GorxDo I have to reinstall software and reconfigure my system settings if I try another DE? Like XFCE?06:01
cfhowlettGorx shouldn't have to reconfigure06:02
Gorxcfhowlett: "shouldn't"? Uh oh! :P06:02
Churchabout GUI i am not so knowledgable. But iirc one just had to install some l/k/x-ubuntu-desktop package sets and choose different DE at login manager06:02
Churchgorx: as for lvm. using lvm needs you to learn a bit. yes, it's great and powerful, but not dumbed down for endusers. still, me thinks it's power IS worth learning.06:03
GorxChurch: I'll read about it and think some more before I do anything.06:04
Churchgorx: think of lvm like dividing disk in many many small partitions (partition extents) and then telling - create logical volume from thousand of these PE on this disk, and two thousand on this disk. then you format it to whatever fs you need. if you wish, you can pvmove those used extents to new disk to free old disk and replace with another. or online add extra extents to some fs and grow it. with no downtime & reboots06:06
GorxChurch: *scratches head*06:08
Gorx:P06:08
Churchgorx: like dynamic disks in windows. or solstice disk manager with softpartitions in solaris. or very similar lvm in hpux/aix or original one volume manager made by veritas06:09
nevynGorx: listen to him lvm really is awesome06:09
nevynsdm is horrible compared to lvm.06:10
nevynreally06:10
VoyageChurch,  what are those visio alternatives?06:10
Gorxnevyn: I am listening.06:10
cfhowlettVoyage http://www.osalt.com/visio        READ06:10
GorxChurch: Sounds good, but I'm not ready just yet.06:10
Churchvoyage: i never needed them, so you can ask others here or google yourself for linux visio alternatives. IIRC dia, kiwio, libreoffice draw and alikes06:11
Voyagecfhowlett,  ok06:11
VoyageChurch,  hm ok06:11
ob1hey all! i am not able to run linux.exe even after chmod +x .. any ideas?06:13
ob1*linux exectutable06:13
Churchnevyn: horrible and with some limitations, but can be used to make things done. i use sdm with: halfmirror in diskset, which is divided via softpartitions. then i can online move to biger LUN via mirring, and allocate/grow online with no max partition limits as with normal slices. yes, zfs is better, but for many old servers or old backup clients we still need to use ufs/sdm06:13
Churchs/mirring/mirroring/ that is.06:14
Churchob1: are you trolling? if not, by executable name it sounds like some fake app that you've been toyed with and which actually is meant for windows06:15
Churchob1: check with "file linux.exe" what type of file it really is.06:16
nevynChurch: oh softparts are the only way to use it if you're going to use it.06:17
nooruddin7816hi06:19
nooruddin7816hi, aaaas06:21
nooruddin7816hiiii06:21
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Beans_Hello, noor :)06:25
battleaxehi, anyone here have experience with btrfs on ubuntu?  Specifically, I'm running 3.2.0-63-generic #95-Ubuntu SMP Thu May 15 23:05:57 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux and Btrfs v0.19, and I'm trying to figure out how to update my btrfs-tools.06:33
battleaxexubuntu 12.04, if that's relevant06:33
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MoonlightningIf I have openssl 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2 or 1ubuntu2.1 installed, am I safe from Heartbleed?06:34
cfhowlett!heartbleed|Moonlightning06:34
ubottuMoonlightning: A fix for the recent OpenSSL vulnerabilities (2014-0076 & 0160) has been pushed to the Ubuntu repositories, see http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/ and http://heartbleed.com/ for more information.06:34
rww!heartbleed =~ s/, s/. S/06:35
ubottuNothing changed there06:35
rww!-heartbleed06:35
ubottuheartbleed is <alias> libsslbug - added by Flannel on 2014-04-17 09:28:0406:35
rww!libsslbug =~ s/, s/. S/06:35
ubottuI'll remember that rww06:35
Moonlightningcfhowlett: I have 14.04 though.06:36
rwwMoonlightning: it was fixed before 14.04 was released, so you're fine06:37
trijntjerww, can you edit ubottu? Because the !pastbin link for images gives a malware warning06:37
rww!pastebin06:37
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.06:37
* Moonlightning nods…06:37
efazatiwhat is simple way to create to terminal with one command in bash. some thing like tmux. i want this "tmux --w1=htop --w2=fdisk -l"06:37
rwwtrijntje: doesn't for me. which browser are you using?06:37
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trijntjerww, firefox on ubuntu06:38
rwwah, https://safebrowsing.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?client=Firefox&hl=en-US&site=imagebin.org/ . fun.06:38
rwwthanks for the heads up, I'll ponder it06:38
efazatii use "tmux new session -s bash htop " but i dont know how create next session06:38
trijntjerww, cool, thanks06:39
nevynman 3406:40
efazatican any one help?06:41
nevynefazati: man tmux ?06:41
efazatinevyn, i didnt find any thing like this... do have any history?06:41
nevynso you can't 'make' a terminal in bash06:42
nevynyou can multitask in bash just bash job control [p]info bash job control06:42
nevynI much prefer pinfo to info.06:42
bugtraqhi all06:46
somsip!info ffmpeg06:48
ubottuPackage ffmpeg does not exist in trusty06:48
cfhowlettsomsip avconv is the replacement for ffmpeg06:49
somsipcfhowlett: that *might* have been my next question if my google-fu failed me. Ta :)06:49
cfhowlettsomsip happy to help06:50
SlaxXxguys. I want to make my first full linux install. and plan to go for debian. would tat be wise?06:51
rwwSlaxXx: not sure what that has to do with Ubuntu?06:52
cfhowlett!ot|SlaxXx06:52
ubottuSlaxXx: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!06:52
rwwIf you have question about Debian, try #debian :)06:52
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SlaxXxrww: they already aid debian. :)06:52
SlaxXxbut i fear ima get stuck06:52
cfhowlettSlaxXx see "linux from scratch" for this project.  still off=topic in #ubuntu.  good luck.06:53
rwwYou're recommending someone new to Linux use LFS? That's... bold.06:53
e^is there a way to copy all the downloaded software (that were downloaded with apt-get/software center) so that if you do a clean install you can just copy them back & re-install?06:53
SlaxXxI'm on debian now. under vmware06:54
cfhowlettrww d'oh!  I thought he wrote "first linux build"06:54
cfhowlettSlaxXx if you want help here, install ubuntu.  otherwise: #debian.06:54
SlaxXxman, before i wipe my hdd and make a fresh linux install. i just need some opinions from experienced ppl like u guys06:55
rwwYou06:55
cfhowlettSlaxXx we will NOT help you with debian.06:56
rwwYou're in #ubuntu. We support Ubuntu. If you have Ubuntu support questions, we're happy to help. "Should I use Debian" is not really an Ubuntu support question :\06:56
rwwTry #debian or ##linux or something.06:56
SlaxXxwhats up with the strictness?06:56
SlaxXx:)06:56
cfhowlettSlaxXx common sense - ubuntu aint' debian.06:57
rwwbecause handling Ubuntu questions is plenty of work for us without random other offtopic stuff being in here too, and there are better channels for said stuff where you will get better help06:57
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SlaxXxnone in queue so i see no point is being super strict when u could just give a two words friendly advice as u'd tip off your neighbor06:58
jrockjiggzHi, i installed a lamp stack and it installed into ~/ is this acceptable06:59
jrockjiggze.g. ~/lampstack/apache2/htdocs06:59
rwwjrockjiggz: use the packages in our repositories instead of third-party stuff like XAMPP06:59
rww!lamp06:59
ubottuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process.06:59
cfhowlettSlaxXx two words: ##linux #debian06:59
wilee-nileeSlaxXx, Go to #debian and ask for ubuntu support if you want to see a mirror image. ;)07:00
jrockjiggzI am new to ubuntu, which repositories? Ubuntu Software Center/07:00
Pr0jectRec0nGreetings, I have lightDM and xubuntu - I recently installed the lxqct-metapackage. For some reason, I guess the default lightDM config in xubuntu is setup in a different way?07:00
SlaxXxwilee-nilee: yeah they act the same. suggested debian and answer nothing else07:00
SlaxXxso im lost man07:00
SlaxXxdunno what to do07:00
SlaxXxill go for debian and see where i'll end up07:01
rwwOkay. Have fun :)07:01
wilee-nileeSlaxXx, ##linux is good very experienced help there, you just have to be registered with freenode is all.07:01
SlaxXxokay guys. thx07:01
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djo_djo07:01
djo_opa07:02
djo_hello all07:02
djo_#abv07:02
djo_:D07:02
rwwdjo_: Howdy, is there an Ubuntu support problem we can help you with?07:02
wilee-nileedjo_, Do you need support?07:02
cfhowlettdjo_ ask your questions07:02
djo_amm y07:02
Pr0jectRec0nthis is what lightdm.conf has : http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=u6U9QPYt - I have both lightdm-gtk-greeter installed (by default) and lightdm-lxqt-greeter installed - however, nothing is referneced in the conf file by default - why? I'm assuming lightdm is using the lightdm-gtk-greeter by default?07:03
djo_i wanna play lineage 207:03
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Voyagecfhowlett,  Church  non of the we discussed can make project timelines. can they?07:05
cfhowlettVoyage project timelines is fairly standard, so I would be surprised if they couldn't07:06
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GoroAHello! I just formatted a new HDD and everything went just fine. But why can't I do anything with it? It won't let me create new folders or move files to it. :S07:20
helmut_hi07:20
wilee-nileeGoroA, http://askubuntu.com/questions/158735/how-to-set-permissions-so-that-i-can-read-and-write-to-another-partition07:25
_1_DustinHey07:25
GoroAwilee-nilee: Looks easy enough. Thanks.07:26
chi_hi07:27
chi_:/07:27
wilee-nileeGoroA, No prob, I rarely make a ext type for anything but an install, but I just gksudo nautilus and go to properties and tick the permission.07:27
GoroAwilee-nilee: "I rarely make a ext type"? What does that mean? :P07:28
wilee-nileeGoroA, ext4 is yours I am just calling that a ext type.07:29
GoroAwilee-nilee: How did you know I picked ext4? :O07:29
wilee-nileeGoroA, Hey just guessing, but that is the default ubuntu type.07:30
GoroAAre you watching me right now?! *paranoid*07:30
* wilee-nilee puts his Karnack hat in the closet07:30
somsipwilee-nilee: good to see that rootkit bot still works on the newbies ;-)07:30
wilee-nileehehe, yep07:31
somsipGoroA: just teasing mate. ext4 is the default and most-oft picked filesystem07:31
GoroAsomsip: :@07:31
GoroAwilee-nilee: Why is my "Mounted at" text so weird? It's just a long line of random numbers and letters.07:32
wilee-nileeGoroA, Not sure, I have not done this the correct way ever, I rarely need this type of partition except for installs.07:33
ChurchVoyage: then sounds like you need some time scheduler, not chart grapher. Be more specific in describing what you need.07:33
Pr0jectRec0nGoroA, thats the GUID07:33
GoroAwilee-nilee: Bah!07:33
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GoroAPr0jectRec0n: Then what would the command look like? Would I just include EVERYTHING after sudo chmod 777?07:34
aslanHi, I'm new to python. I got a scenario that I want to launch a ssh connection with try and except. if try part ask for the ssh password then I should move to except part. how can I do this.07:34
GoroALike /media/username/rthgirhgjkrhgeko7465765y4iu5th07:34
GoroA?07:34
thmcmahonhi all - what's the recommended way to build packages from source these days?07:34
Pr0jectRec0nGoroA, no sorry - I guess your'e mistaken - can you paste your fstab/mount output?07:34
VoyageChurch,  well, I need both. looks like visio  or gliffy will work for charts. what about time lines?07:34
GoroAPr0jectRec0n: How would I do that?07:35
Voyagehow to know that which user actually initiated/ started an application. I cant see that in   ps ax | grep tomcat07:35
sm21Hi im in here on a tablet woop07:36
__raven_14.04 extreme network problems with wired and wireless nic. connection crashes, extremely slow connections, no dns - whats that and how to solve07:36
wilee-nilee!tmi | sm2107:37
ubottusm21: Um thanks... We *really* did not need to know that...07:37
Voyage(process:19372): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed  Error: no display specified               how to mention display?07:37
sm21Lol07:37
wilee-nilee;)07:37
sm21How do I cure my hangover07:37
Pr0jectRec0nGoroA, take the o/p of the 'mount' command - paste it at pastebin.com and give us the link here07:38
Churchsm21: fight fire with fire, of course. drink some .. for "cure"07:38
__raven_14.04 extreme network problems with wired and wireless nic. connection crashes, extremely slow connections, no dns - whats that and how to solve07:38
GoroAPr0jectRec0n: That's alien language to me. :(07:39
Pr0jectRec0nGoroA, you do have access to a terminal and know how to use it?07:39
GoroAPr0jectRec0n: I know how to open one and some basic commands, yes.07:39
sm21Does 14.04 have major issues.07:39
Pr0jectRec0nGoroA, just do a 'mount' on the terminal07:40
Pr0jectRec0nGoroA, and paste the output at www.pastebin.com -> this will create a URL. Give us the URL07:40
sm21I quit ubuntu  it wont let me dual boot win windows cuz of course the modern bios07:41
aeon-ltdsm21: if there were, you probably would've heard about it. users are pretty vocal the weeks after release. every system will be a littel different based on the hardware and software you use, but that's exactly why support forums and irc exist07:41
aeon-ltdsm21: talking abbout uefi?07:42
sm21Yes uefi07:42
aeon-ltdsm21: workarounds exist07:42
sm21How07:43
sm21Plz07:44
aeon-ltdsm21: the channel will need more details07:44
aeon-ltdsm21: all i know is, have you disabled secure boot?07:45
sm21No07:45
aeon-ltdtry that07:45
sm21Is there a setting07:45
aeon-ltdyes07:45
sm21Oh07:45
sm21Thanks07:46
aeon-ltdif that doesn't work come back here with more details, any errors and messages may help07:46
GoroASomeone please tell me why my new HDD formatted as ext4 is unusable. It won't let me move stuff, create new stuff, or do anything with it. :S07:48
Ben64GoroA: you'll need to give more information07:49
GoroABen64: Tell me what you need.07:49
Ben64is there an error message?07:49
sm21Ive spent ten years trying to decide if I like linux 8r windoes07:49
GoroABen64: No.07:50
GoroABen64: Everything is grayed out.07:50
Ben64GoroA: grayed out where... also, pastebin the outputs of "mount"07:50
GoroABen64: Right-click.07:51
rwwbecause its permissions default to root:root07:51
sm21When I install linux my family bash me07:51
GoroArww: How do I get it to behave?07:51
ichatsm21:  than dont :P07:51
Ben64GoroA: oh well if you never gave your user access to it then yeah thats the problem.07:52
rwwGoroA: No idea how to do it in the graphical interface. The terminal command would be sudo chown yourusername:yourusername /path/to/mountpoint07:52
GoroABen64: I'm new.07:52
GoroArww: Where do I find the exact mp?07:52
Ben64mp?07:52
rwwGoroA: the `mount` command07:53
GoroArww: Is it one of those /dev/sda1 names?07:53
rwwit's probably /media/yourusername/somethinghere07:53
GoroAUgh.07:53
sm21My family are conditioned to windows07:53
GoroArww: /media/username/0a4c845f-3530-4061-8279-f9a734927dda :S07:53
GoroAShould it look like that?07:53
rwwsounds about right07:54
ichatrww  can i hand you a tip?07:54
GoroABen64: I meant "mountpoint".07:54
GoroArww: How do I change that long and random name?07:54
Ben64GoroA: when you're in the terminal, you can use the tab key to help autocomplete that path so you don't have to type it all07:54
GoroABen64: So it SHOULD look like that?07:55
GoroAI mean, it's nothing weird going on?07:55
Ben64thats a default-y kind of name07:55
sm21My penis fell off07:55
GoroABen64: Great!07:55
rwwsm21: Is there an Ubuntu support problem we can help you with today?07:55
Ben64GoroA: there should be a disk utility application that can change disk labels, not sure on the name07:55
sm21Yes I cant install it with a modern bios07:56
Ben64GoroA: on my 12.04 system it's called simply "Disk Utility" not sure if it has changed since then07:56
rww"modern bios" is an oxymoron; you probably meant UEFI. which works fine with Ubuntu.07:56
GoroArww: Ben64: I own the HDD now! YES! :)07:56
GoroAThanks.07:56
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GoroABen64: I think I've used "Disks" or something.07:56
GoroABut it all works now. :)07:57
sm21How.07:57
ichatrww:  if you want people to get you information the iseast way it to tell them to run:   whatever command you like  piped to pastebinit  for example   ls | patebinit   (is a lot easier for people to follow)07:58
sm21Mark shuttleworth gave me a rash from his beard07:59
wilee-nileeichat, You are telling regulars highly qualified what to do here?07:59
ichatsm21:  your giving my a rash from talking to mutch of topic :P07:59
sm21I own megaupload08:00
GoroAThanks for helping me, everyone. Bye!08:00
ichatwilee-nilee:  are you trying to be rude here?08:00
wilee-nileeichat, That was my question of you.08:01
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wilee-nileeichat, This is support for users asking for it, stick with that.08:01
ichatwilee-nilee:   let me tell you, if i see people  doing good stuf in an ineffective manor,  and i know of a tip / way to  make things easier for them and the people they help,  ... are you really asking me to shut up, because if that is what you ask, than you should not be in a support channel08:02
arun_does ubuntu port ff addons preinstalled?08:03
sm21My dos 6.22 wont boot08:03
sm21Can ne 1  help08:04
Ben64sm21: this is not the channel for your silly off topic comments. take it to #ubuntu-offtopic , or more preferably, your own private channel08:04
sm21Says the himem is broke08:05
ichatwilee-nilee:  if me knowing more efficient ways to support people  offends you than  that makes you even less qualified  as support is as mutch about people as it is about knowing your computer   so next time you ask me to stfu, you better thing twice,08:05
wilee-nileearun_ there a a couple of ubuntu addons.08:06
wilee-nileeare*08:06
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arun_wilee-nilee: thanks08:06
jrockjiggzis there a way in ubuntu to see a list of all applications?08:06
jrockjiggzI do not seem to have the icon in the top menu that I've seen online08:07
wilee-nileejrockjiggz, Installed or in the repos"08:07
jrockjiggzInstalled08:07
wilee-nileejrockjiggz, dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages08:07
wilee-nileeIt will be in home08:08
jrockjiggzwilee-nilee: thanks, it works08:09
jrockjiggzwilee-nilee: not exactly what I was looking for.. I was looking for more of a 'start menu' of apps.. like traditional windows would..08:09
sm21My himem broke08:09
wilee-nileejrockjiggz, There is a startup applications gui08:10
wilee-nileeneeds to be populated is all.08:10
jrockjiggzwilee-nilee: is it called 'startup applications gui' /08:11
sm21Thoughts on win808:11
jrockjiggzwilee-nilee: first day with ubuntu.. just trying to see whats installed.. like a menu..08:11
wilee-nileejrockjiggz, No startup applications is al gui is guided user interface08:11
Ben64sm21: you are still not in the right channel, try ##windows for windows support08:11
DJonessm21: This channel is for Ubuntu supprot issues, please take Windows chat to ##windows or #ubuntu-offtopic for general discussion08:11
wilee-nileeall*08:11
wilee-nileejrockjiggz, It seems you want a different menu, the fallback desktop would be closer to this.08:12
sm21Im mark shuttleworth I can do what I want08:13
DJonessm21: Please stop08:14
jrockjiggzwilee-nilee: do you know what menu this is http://i.imgur.com/dX1ReEG.png08:14
wilee-nileejrockjiggz, Not exactly, but my guess is an add on menu that sits on the top bar.08:16
sm21Ubuntu is popular because of fanboy homosexuality darwinism tendencies towards marks shuttleworth08:16
DJonescsop08:16
jrockjiggzwilee-nilee: i'll keep looking.. thanks08:17
wilee-nileejrockjiggz, That might be from one of the many ubuntu based derivatives like mint....etc there are handfuls08:18
sm21Hi08:18
wilee-nileeas far as the picture08:18
sm21Hi08:19
jrockjiggzwilee-nilee: i just thought Ubuntu would have a way for a user to browse applications.08:19
wilee-nileejrockjiggz, You do it's the dash shown with the top button in the left panel.08:19
jrockjiggzthat only lists items as you type08:20
wilee-nileeI don't use that desktop though08:20
jrockjiggzwilee-nilee: i found a program 'main menu' that will list applications! works good08:20
wilee-nileecool08:20
jrockjiggzwilee-nilee: thanks again, cheers08:20
wilee-nilee;)08:20
sm21Hi08:21
sm21Ping08:21
aeon-ltdsm21: managed to dual boot yet?08:23
sm21No08:23
aeon-ltdok08:23
sm21Im in bed will try t8morrow08:23
aeon-ltdsm21: there's a offtopic channel if you wanna kill time08:24
sm21On a tablet hense the typos08:24
sm21If ubuntu was a chick id fuck her08:29
happylifei found xfce better than unity of ubuntu 14.0408:30
wilee-nilee!intentions | happylife08:34
ubottuhappylife: I've heard that the road to hell is paved with good intentions. This saying is thought to have originated with Saint Bernard of Clairvaux who wrote, "L'enfer est plein de bonnes volontés et désirs" (hell is full of good wishes and desires). Don't buy it? It has scientific backing! See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_road_to_hell_is_paved_with_good_intentions#Studies08:34
airtonixhappylife: riveting tale old chap.08:44
happylifehow to install wireless drive for ubuntu 14.0408:46
wilee-nileehappylife, lspci will show the wifi hardware tell the channel what it is08:46
yenic!info python08:50
ubottupython (source: python-defaults): interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is optional. Version 2.7.5-5ubuntu3 (trusty), package size 130 kB, installed size 671 kB08:50
yenic!info python308:50
ubottupython3 (source: python3-defaults): interactive high-level object-oriented language (default python3 version). In component main, is important. Version 3.4.0-0ubuntu2 (trusty), package size 8 kB, installed size 100 kB08:50
happylifeok08:52
happylifehappylife@happylife-ThinkPad-L440:~$ lspci08:54
happylife00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor DRAM Controller (rev 06)08:54
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happylife00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor PCI Express x16 Controller (rev 06)08:54
happylife00:01.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor PCI Express x8 Controller (rev 06)08:54
happylife00:01.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor PCI Express x4 Controller (rev 06)08:54
happylife00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06)08:54
happylife00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio Controller (rev 06)08:54
happylife00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family USB xHCI (rev 05)08:54
happylife00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family MEI Controller #1 (rev 04)08:54
arcskyhow do i check after new security updates?08:54
happylife00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection I217-V (rev 05)08:54
happylife00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05)08:54
happylife00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port #1 (rev d5)08:55
happylife00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port #2 (rev d5)08:55
happylife00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port #3 (rev d5)08:55
happylife00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port #5 (rev d5)08:55
unopastehappylife you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted08:55
CapprenticeIs it recommendable to create a FAT32 shared Drive instead of NTFS drive to share files between the Windows and Fedora System?08:55
CapprenticeEeeeeek ! I mean Ubuntu.08:55
happylifehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7571663/08:56
happylifehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7571663/08:58
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CapprenticeWhere are all the experts :P ?????????????? :( :( :( :(09:01
m1dnightWhy wouldn't you?09:01
m1dnightYou can also create an exFat drive09:01
m1dnightonly limitation with fat is the file size09:02
m1dnightso I'd go for an exfat filesystem09:02
m1dnightyou will have to install exfat-utils or something in Ubuntu though09:02
m1dnightbut it's a small effort :)09:02
CapprenticeI just dont want to see the System Volume information created by Windows everytime I see the drive through Ubuntu.09:03
happylifelspci can not tell me wifi hardware09:03
cristian_cHi09:04
bcveryhappylife, look at line 21 of your post09:04
cristian_cI'd like to install a package with sudo apt-get install09:04
leomarkI have this apache problem. Permission denied every time I will access the apache.. it gives me this log "Symbolic link not allowed or link target not accessible". How can I add permission? im new in ubuntu..09:05
m1dnightCapprentice: I have no idea if that will work though :)09:05
cristian_cbut I'd like not to install the suggested packages too09:05
cristian_cWhat option have I to use in the command?09:05
nevynCapprentice: I'd use ntfs for anything that is larger than a breadbox.09:05
happylifeok09:05
happylifethank you09:05
cristian_cAny ideas?09:05
m1dnightcristian_c:09:06
m1dnighthttp://serverfault.com/questions/250224/how-do-i-get-apt-get-to-ignore-some-dependencies09:06
m1dnightsomething like that?09:06
happylifebcvery,thank you and also wilee-nilee09:07
cristian_cmidnight_, not the dependencies, but the 'suggested' packages?09:07
cristian_c*.09:07
Ben64cristian_c: the suggested packages are just suggested and not installed by default09:08
cristian_cBen64, the terminal asks to continue or not09:08
Ben64can you pastebin it09:08
m1dnightcristian_c:09:08
m1dnighthttp://askubuntu.com/questions/179060/how-not-to-install-recommended-and-suggested-packages09:08
m1dnightand no offence, but Google from time to time09:08
m1dnightit were the two first hits..09:09
cristian_cBen64, it doesn't ask to continuen without installing the suggested packages09:09
m1dnightalso, Capprentice I was wrong with suggesting exFat. It appers to be a filesystem designed for flash drives. Sorry 'bout that09:09
CapprenticeDOnt be. :)09:10
CapprenticeThanks for the effort though :d09:10
CapprenticeANyone using Gnome 3.12?09:10
m1dnightBtw, the system volume information is there to say too :p09:11
m1dnighthttp://askubuntu.com/questions/227033/how-to-make-folders-like-system-volume-information-or-recycler-hidden-just # This could work, however.09:11
m1dnightHaven't tried it.09:11
Churchexfat is nothing "designed for flash drives". It's same old fat16/fat32 just with even more limits rised as to max fs size and max file size.09:12
Churchdesigned for flash drives should work with underlying storage specifics, like triming, lessen writes and alike ..09:13
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m1dnightChurch: I googled around and I keep finding the intent of exFat is flash drives..09:19
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Guest88131I've upgraded to ubuntu 14.04 and now I'm wrestling with getting pidgin to work. I'm stuck with "No GSettings schemas are installed on the system"09:23
Guest88131Apparently this dir doesn't exist: /usr/share/ubuntu/glib-2.0/schemas/gschemas.compiled09:24
Guest88131Is there a package missing which I must install?09:24
grytry to reinstall gsettings-desktop-schemas09:25
Guest88131gry: didn't work. This is the strace:09:25
Guest88131open("/usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/gschemas.compiled", O_RDONLY) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)09:26
Guest88131open("/usr/local/share/glib-2.0/schemas/gschemas.compiled", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)09:26
Guest88131open("/usr/share/gnome/glib-2.0/schemas/gschemas.compiled", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)09:26
Guest88131open("/usr/share/ubuntu/glib-2.0/schemas/gschemas.compiled", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)09:26
Guest88131write(2, "\n(Pidgin:22320): GLib-GIO-ERROR "..., 8509:26
Guest88131(Pidgin:22320): GLib-GIO-ERROR **: No GSettings schemas are installed on the system09:26
unopasteGuest88131 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted09:26
gryhmm09:26
Guest88131http://paste.ubuntu.com/7571810/09:27
Guest88131apparmor issue?09:27
gryhttps://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1984850 https://we.riseup.net/riseuphelp+en/pidgin suggest yes09:28
Guest88131thanks!09:28
grythe thing is, I never understood what apparmor does properly, so I'm not sure what to suggest09:28
Guest88131heh.. I don't understand apparmor either. This is a common issue I think. :-/09:29
gryif /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.pidgin exists, I would personally try to move it to ~/usr.bin.pidgin and see if things are any better then09:29
grybut that's an ugly solution I suspect09:29
Voyage(process:19372): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed  Error: no display specified               how to mention display?09:33
Voyageor I should say, how to find out how many displays the OS is running and how to mention which display I want to atttach / send my application while i run it?09:34
gry--display=:0.009:34
Voyagegry,  this will tell me how many display sI have?09:35
gryno, it is a switch to indicate a display09:35
brixon_12234in ubuntu 13.10 - i can't find ntfsprogs anywhere09:35
Voyageso it will bind the application to that display? like     sudo ./start-tomcat-server --display=:0.009:36
gryto list them, see "ls /tmp/.X11-unix" and https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/17255/is-there-a-command-to-list-all-open-displays-on-a-machine09:36
gryyes, except I'm not sure why a server that needs root isn't packaged as a service properly09:36
Voyagegry,  actaully, that server application has to launch firefox.. and for that, I need it to run in a desktop / display09:37
gryyou want to use ssh -X and the link I gave I think09:38
Voyagegry,  /tmp/.X11-unix$ ls09:38
VoyageX109:38
grythis is list of displays on your local machine09:39
Voyageso x1 is display:= 1 ?09:39
Voyagegry,  so if one user is logged on display 1 and other on display 2, I can bind to any?09:40
gryit looks so although I've not grasped the entire context yet09:40
Voyage./tomcat --display=:X1  is valid ?09:41
gryyes, but without the 'X'09:42
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Churchm1dnight: it might be most widely used (due simplicity to implement in different embedded device firmwares, wide support thus easing interoperability), but it's just fixing some limitations of older fat versions. That's it. It's not "Made for Flash".09:54
Guest51158does anyone know someone with RUBY experience in South Africa?09:55
Guest88131gry: Removing the apparmor profile causes pidgin to hang while waiting for a resource. Adding the proposed file doesn't help but lead to the issue with GSetting schema missing. But, there is a reference to a bug which include yet another apparmor script which seem to fix the issues, but one problem still remains but it has unclear implications: (Pidgin:22963): dconf-CRITICAL **: unable to create file '/run/user/1000/dconf/user': Permission denied.  dconf wi09:55
Guest88131ll not work properly.09:55
cfhowlettGuest51158 pretty sure ruby has a channel #ruby.  ask them09:56
Guest51158shot... thanks09:56
cfhowlett!info ruby09:56
ubotturuby (source: ruby-defaults): Interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby (default version). In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.9.3.4 (trusty), package size 5 kB, installed size 44 kB09:56
gryGuest88131: if only I knew - please idle and share a solution when you find it09:56
Guest88131yupp09:57
grycfhowlett and anyone else: your apparmor expertise is more than welcome here09:57
cfhowlettgry :)  you said cfhowlett and expertise in the same sentence ...09:57
cristian_c<Ben64> cristian_c: the suggested packages are just suggested and not installed by default09:58
cristian_cit's not right09:58
cristian_cmidnight_, --no-install-recommends has improved the things09:58
cristian_c:)09:58
cristian_cnot solved, but improved :)09:59
lanoxxj /#ubuntu+110:01
SirMarkyI have a problem with workspaces on 14.04.  When I select a running program icon from the sidebar the system will not bring up the window unless it is on the workspace I am presently viewing.  Until a few days past it would automatically move my view to the workspace containing the open window.  I am unsure how to resolve.10:11
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Ekusheytopic says: "Currently supported: 10.04 LTS (server) 12.04 LTS,  13.10, and 14.04 LTS."10:28
Ekusheyis it right?10:28
DJonesEkushey: Yes thats right10:28
anonymoushi10:29
Ekushey10.04 and 12.04 reached end of life, isn't it DJones? or am i wrong?10:29
DJonesEkushey: 12.04 is 5 years support and its only 10.04 server with 5 years support10:30
Ekusheyoh so I must be confusing 12.04 with 12.1010:31
Ekushey12.10 reached end of life10:31
platzhirsch1Is there a way to optimize bluetooth strength?10:33
Trudkoguys what are plans of implementing better multi touch support to Ubuntu(like one finger scrolling on webpage) out of the box?10:41
someone235hey, my sound manager icon has disappeared, how can I fix this?10:54
sabanhi. how to use comand smbstatus and get data to see what ip accessing what dir?10:57
ubuntuser13how to create Ramdisk?11:03
hebz0rlis there a simple way to catch stdout/err of unity when logging in via lightdm? im having problem that sometimes the launcher wont show when user login and i have no clue how to debug that.11:07
joy4uafter installing nginx 1.6 on ubuntu i am not getting /var/www folder11:11
OerHeksjoy4u, nginx 1.46 is in the repos, how did you install nginx?11:13
joy4uOerHeks: from this tutorial on nginx site http://nginx.org/en/linux_packages.html11:14
joy4uOerHeks: also not getting the folder /etc/nginx/sites-enabled/11:15
sandstromI've got a bash script that sets an ENV variable. How can I run/include/source it from within a dash script (plain sh)?11:16
joy4uOerHeks: can you tell me waht is the problem?11:17
OerHeksjoy4u, i don't know why that version does not do what you expect it to. use the version in softwarecenter.11:18
jpentlandIs there a simple standalone viewer for .msg (outlook email11:22
jpentlandfiles) (sorry for linebreak)11:22
joy4uwhy /var/www is not present in ubuntu 14.0411:23
legiong'morning all11:23
VoyageI cannot find any project tool to make such gantt chart with similar features of time and dependancy. any help?  http://web.mit.edu/rajsingh/www/cmp/fieldmap/resources/timeline.png11:23
jpentlandjoy4u, those types of directories were moved to /srv11:23
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joy4ujpentland: /srv does not showing any folder11:25
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mcrounVoyage there is one addon in googledocs11:26
CEduardohue11:26
Voyagemcroun,  ?11:26
mcrounyes11:27
jpentlandjoy4u, do you have apache or something installed?11:27
Voyagewhat do you mean mcroun11:27
mcrounhold on11:27
ubuntuser13unable to mount Ramdisk  error: can't find  /ramdisk in etc/fstab11:27
airtonixVoyage: what have you tried?11:27
joy4ujpentland: nginx installed11:29
Voyagehttps://www.smartsheet.com/provconfirm?ss_lc=en_US&email=asdjalsdjfk@hotmail.com11:29
Voyagehttp://www.projectdirect.com/information/gantt-chart-for-microsoft-visio.html11:30
jpentlandjoy4u, so I guess for some reason nginx didn't create the directory11:30
Voyagehttp://web.mit.edu/rajsingh/www/cmp/fieldmap/ar01s04.html11:30
mcroun@Voyage you can give a try to http://www.gantter.com/11:30
airtonixVoyage: is that it? only web apps?11:30
mcroun@Voyage it is web based11:30
Voyagehttps://www.tomsplanner.com/?template=example11:30
airtonixVoyage: apt-cache search project11:31
joy4ujpentland: if a create /var/www will it work?11:31
airtonixVoyage: apt-cache search project | grep plan11:31
jpentlandjoy4u, I don't know anything about nginx, sorry11:31
OerHeksjoy4u, packages outside softwarecenter are not supported, for obvious reasons.11:32
airtonixVoyage: pretty much: openoffice/libreoffice and planner11:32
airtonixVoyage: i'm sure there are others.11:32
Voyageairtonix,  i just need the lines connecting each task. e.g http://web.mit.edu/rajsingh/www/cmp/fieldmap/resources/timeline.png11:33
Voyage similar features of time and dependancy.11:33
Voyagewhich app of open office or libre office has it?11:34
airtonixVoyage: did you try those suggestions already?11:34
Thesis_H_Hi all, I need some help. I'm pretty new to Ubuntu so please bear with me and please try to explain step by step, otherwise I would not have a clue.   I have installed Ubuntu 14.04 and over the past 3 weeks, I have made tweeks etc but now Alt+F2 is not working.11:34
happylife./Makefile: 2: ./Makefile: DESTDIR: not found11:34
happylifehow to s11:34
joy4uOerHeks: also tried loading the nginx from software center but still /var/www is not present11:34
Voyageairtonix,  yes11:35
airtonixi don't believe you11:35
Voyagenone has the linked lines11:36
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Thesis_H_Can anyone help please?11:37
sidharthThesis_H_, what's up?11:38
Thesis_H_Hi Sidharth.11:38
Thesis_H_ Alt+F2 is not working.11:38
sidharthHi, you're having trouble?11:38
Thesis_H_yepp11:38
sidharthOn Xubuntu?11:38
Thesis_H_no Ubuntu 14.0411:39
sidharthWhat should be happening?11:39
sidharthI mean, what do you expect?11:39
Thesis_H_well, I hav made some tweeks since installing but now when I try the Alt + F2 it does not work11:40
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sidharthNo problem, is it to kill a process?11:40
Thesis_H_how?11:41
sidharthI mean,  when you press Alt+F2, what is supposed to happen? I'm using Xubuntu, so I don't know what happens on Unity11:41
Thesis_H_oh. well, it is supposed to allow you run some processes like kill etc11:42
OerHeksThesis_H_, did you messed around with keys?11:42
sidharthOK.11:42
sidharthMost probably, you messed around with Compiz11:42
Thesis_H_OerKek, I don't think so but maybe11:42
philinuxsidharth;~ supposed to bring up the run command dialog popup11:42
sidharthAh. Ok, So firstly just go to "Keyboard" on settings, check that the keybindings are correct.11:43
Thesis_H_How can I resolve it? I use Timeshift but I have made so much tweeking from the time I did my last backup11:44
sidharthMaybe just install gmrun?11:44
sidharthIt does the same thing.11:44
minttuHi folks11:45
Thesis_H_Do you know how I can resolve the shortcut issue?11:47
Thesis_H_I can't seem to find the Alt +F2 there11:47
minttuIn a couple of hours im going to buy a 120 GB SSD harddrive, Im thinking of installing linux ubuntu as operative system. Im currently on windows now, so is it okay to keep the files on this harddrive and then later access them through ubuntu? I have LOOOTS of files i want to save.11:48
philinuxThesis_H_;~ are you running ubuntu unity11:48
Thesis_H_yes Philinux11:48
Thesis_H_Ubuntu 14.0411:49
philinuxThesis_H_;~ you could reset compiz and unity to default11:49
Thesis_H_how?11:49
Thesis_H_Pls I am quite new to ubuntu so pls bear with me11:49
philinuxThesis_H_;~ look at method two. http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html11:50
Thesis_H_Thanks Philinux, let me check it out now11:50
philinuxThesis_H_;~ use copy and then paste into a terminal then no typos11:50
philinuxThesis_H_;~ beware you'll loose any unity costomisation11:51
Thesis_H_Thanks Philinux11:51
Thesis_H_Although I was hoping not to lose my tweeks11:51
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philinuxThesis_H_;~ you need to be a careful tweaker11:53
Thesis_H_Philinux; will it change any other settings apart from customization to unity?11:53
e^offtopic question i know, but can anyone help me build a plaintext for an encrypted zip file that has another zip file in it?11:54
Thesis_H_Philinux; I will remember this lol11:54
philinuxThesis_H_;~ right down or use a text editor to record what you did. then it's easier to revert11:54
Thesis_H_Oh yes. that is true11:54
philinuxThesis_H_;~ it will reset compiz and unity to the state when first installed11:54
mexi_d3minttu: Yes that will work. Lubuntu can read windows partitions out of the box, and Lubuntu can install alongside windows without removing it11:55
Thesis_H_Thanks. I guess I will start all over again and be more careful. Thanks again Philinux11:55
minttumexi_d3, is just read that i cant use the full performance of my graphic card if i switch to linux, is that true?11:56
minttugraphics card: AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series (1280x1024x32bit 75Hz)11:56
mexi_d3minttu: ATI drivers are bit weird under Linux. I am not sure that about particular card. Why not try it and see?  It won't trash windows.11:57
mexi_d3minttu: You will get 1280x1024 res, if that's what you wanted.11:58
minttuno its just the specs11:58
minttui showed the specs11:58
mexi_d3minttu: I dont actually think you'll get 32bit colour in windows either :)11:59
minttuhave a irc client that allows me to print specifics:P11:59
mexi_d3minttu: Isnt truecolour in windows 30 bit?11:59
minttuhehe i dont know11:59
minttuits what the specs says11:59
philinuxThesis_H_;~ just seen this https://github.com/phanimahesh/unity-revamp11:59
philinuxThe reset script here is now bundled with unity-tweak-tool. Use as `unity-tweak-tool --reset-unity`12:00
philinuxThesis_H_;~ you could install unity-tweak-tool thats in the ubuntu repo i.e. software cener12:00
minttumexi_d3, in my AMD Catalyst center it says "Color quality 32-bit" so :P12:00
mexi_d3minttu: It's 24 bit colour with an 8 bit alpha channel (which gives transparency levels)12:02
minttuOkay :)12:02
mexi_d3minttu: If get the 'pro' type graphics cards optimised for high res and not for gaming - like nvidia quadro - they probaby have 30 bits of colour not 2412:03
joedm_Hey, How do you increase the maximum amount of memory mysql can use?12:04
minttumexi_d3, i was actually looking at one of those cards becuase i often use 3D environment, CAD programs etc.12:05
minttuBut this card works good aswell, in windows:P12:05
mexi_d3joedm_: I think there's a config file for it (mysql.d)? It's more an sql question than ubuntu though.12:05
joedm_is there an sql chatroom?12:06
mexi_d3joedm_: on my system it is /etc/my.cnf12:06
minttujoedm_: try #sql12:06
mistawrightI have ubuntu running on my desktop. Am i able to compile a custom kernel and create a .deb for my beaglebone black?12:06
minttuor #mysql12:06
mexi_d3joedm_: Ah on vanillia ubuntu look in /etc/mysql/my.cnf12:07
killedbymonkeyshi12:07
joe_dmThanks, I found it but no setting for max memory or anything like that. #sql and #mysql don't work :(12:09
mexi_d3joe_dm, There's setting to control the size of the buffers, stack size etc.12:10
minttujoe_dm: you haven't even stated the question in any of those channels..12:10
mexi_d3joe_dm, What do you actually want to do?12:10
minttujoe_dm: you want to allocate more RAM for mysql?12:11
joe_dmminttu Yes, thats what I'm trying and the channel says #mysql :Cannot send to channel12:11
mexi_d3joe_dm, #mysql is alive, I just checked. Single # too, so it's an official channel.12:11
Drinker89754i HAVE 'fLASH INSTALLED VIA SOFTWARE CENTER' , BUT i STILL CANNOT SEE FLASH-PLAYER VIDEOS OFF PRIVATE SITES .. http://imgur.com/QyBAAsU12:11
Drinker89754Sorry for caps .. fat fingers.12:12
mexi_d3joe_dm, You need to have a registered nick then.12:12
mexi_d3joe_dm, Their motd does say "register with NickServ to talk". Does your IRC client suppress the motd?12:13
IdleOne!register12:13
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode12:13
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Joe_DMmexi_d3 registered now12:15
Abhishek_when I mount an SD card, it mounts in read-only mode (even when WP is disabled), and I have to be root to write to it. How can I set permissions correctly so that I do not have to be root to write to disk12:16
Abhishek_mistaright: it would be better to ask in #beagle12:16
vergilhi12:18
vergili installed ia32-libs and amd64-libs on my 64bit, is that ok ?12:19
tachiruu_Hello, i have somes problemes with 2 ati card, on ubuntu14.04, i cant have my second card (not connected by crossfire) for 4 screen. On 12.04 it works, but not on 14.04. I test fglr / fglr-update / default ubuntu, but no dual head :(12:19
ringarinwhy isn't there a libreoffice-headless package like in centos ?12:19
vergili installed ia32-libs and amd64-libs on my 64bit, is that ok ? plz answer12:19
tachiruu_yes vergil. you can do that.12:21
mexi_d3ringarin, What does it do?12:21
ringarinmexi_d3, i am having trouble building from source --whithout-java & --headless  ; so i went the apt-get install libreoffice-core route but then it still nags for java12:22
vergil@tachiruu_ , you can solve your ati probs by switching to fglrx, but i didn't spot any bugs, why that happens for you?12:22
mexi_d3ringarin, What does libreoffice headless do? what can you do with libreoffice wthout a gui?12:22
ringarinmexi_d3, batch convert odt to pdf , nice to make reporting look good12:23
tachiruu_vergil, can't activate my second card on amdcccle12:23
brontosaurusrexmexi_d3, perhaps convert formats12:23
tachiruu_with fglrx12:23
tachiruu_i try packages provided by ubuntu, and the lastest beta driver on amd webside12:23
vergil@tachiruu_ , just swith to the fglrx driver, and all will be solved.12:23
tachiruu_already tryed.12:24
tachiruu_dosent work12:24
martin_barribuenas12:25
vergil@tachiruu_ , xserver-xorg-video-ati doesnt work ?12:25
tachiruu_i need to have 4 screen on my 2 ati. but only 2 screen work (on the first card) with 14.04 .. all driver tested.12:25
vergilallright12:26
vergil1st, open term12:26
tachiruu_xserver-xorg-video-ati doesnt suport dual head ;)12:26
tachiruu_and lspci see my 2 cards.12:26
vergilxrandr12:26
vergilthen you'll see your screens names12:27
tachiruu_xrandr see only my 2 display curently used.12:27
tachiruu_others are disconnected12:27
vergiljust listen12:27
vergilset up thier resolutions12:27
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vergilxrand --output XXXX --mode AAAAxYYYY12:28
vergilxrandr --output XXXX --mode AAAAxYYYY12:29
tachiruu_cant :/ xrandr say "cannot find mode". screen are see as disconnected.12:30
tachiruu_if y want to "active" them with arandr : Smallest mode too large for virtual12:30
vergilno, you'll need to know thier modes via the initial command "xrandr" will show you what you have to do12:31
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vergilfor example : xrandr --output HDMI-0 --mode 1360x76812:32
tachiruu_http://pastebin.com/jweErfkd12:32
tachiruu_look.12:32
tachiruu_DFP1 and 5 are in use, and set in the mode i want.12:32
tachiruu_second card is viewed, but not "handlable"12:34
vergilso it's a driver-related prob,12:34
tachiruu_i think too. Catalyst center, see the second card, as unactive, but cant active it, and xserver-xorg-video-ati doesnt support the dual head12:35
tachiruu_i think i need to back to 12.04 :(12:36
minttutachiruu_, four screens? :) Nice setup!12:36
tachiruu_yep.12:36
tachiruu_Very usefull to see mass of data.12:37
DarshanHello12:48
Darshaneveryone12:48
Darshani am having issue12:48
Darshanregarding starting tomcat12:48
Darshanin Ubuntu12:48
Darshancan any one answer me12:49
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PiciDarshan: If you can provide a problem description and stop pressing enter so often, we can try to help.12:50
DarshanPici: Sorry for that!!! basically i am able to start tomcat12:51
Darshanbut it halts at some point12:51
DeepfriediceWhat message do you get?12:51
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user123321Would it be possible for a "random" freezing of Ubuntu during booting?12:51
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Darshan Pici, Deepfriedice:-  http://pastie.org/924997112:52
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Guest57172hi12:53
DarshanPici, Deepfriedice :  any guess ??12:54
DeepfriediceDarshan: I'm no Tomcat expert, but there doesn't seem to be an error message in that log.12:54
DeepfriediceThere are warnings about missing directories, but that's it.12:55
user123321Does anyone know the Windows 7's fastest mouse speed equivalent in Ubuntu?12:55
mexi_d3user123321, You can adjust mouse speed in the system settings. That aside, I don't understand your question.12:56
Radon_3hi guys, if I was toregister a domain name like "linuxiskin.com" or "ubuntuisking.com" and write about linux and ubuntu and such, would I probably get some help and support, or maybe some guidelines from Ubuntu or debian projects probably?12:57
Radon_3Or I would have to take care of it all by myself?12:57
mexi_d3If you did, your site would be biased and therefore I couldn't read it ...12:58
Radon_3*"linuxiskin.com"  = "linuxisking.com"12:58
Radon_3mexi_d3: what do you mean?12:58
user123321mexi_d3, cool, ok.12:59
Radon_3mexi_d3: If you mean like I am going to just "ADVERTISE" linux, you are wrong, I am going to maybe provide some help and service for the users, that's all, and I am only just stating the obvious .13:00
Radon_3so I am on my own ....13:01
Radon_3thank you anyways...13:01
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tollandI have a laptop with ubuntu 13.10, and when the lid closes, it goes into a suspend/hibernate state, and upon recovery the X session has screwy colour depth/resolution13:05
tollandhere is a before and after13:05
tollandhttps://farm3.staticflickr.com/2900/14142333629_9224682f8c.jpg13:05
tollandhttps://farm6.staticflickr.com/5502/14328992975_269849ea1f.jpg13:05
Wnttolland: that's pretty interesting :) which graphics card is your lapto using?13:06
tollandWnt: Mobility Radeon X130013:07
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jnhghywhat command should I use to give only execution rights for the owner of a file? (no read/write rights ... )? chmod ?+-?13:08
Darshan_Sorry i ask this question, but got disconnected from internet13:09
Darshan_Hello Everyone, i have install tomcat 7 in my ubuntu server, now i am not able to start the tomcat, i can start it , but the execution gets halt at one place http://pastie.org/924997113:09
Wnttolland: Which driver are you using for it? the propertiary binary driver or the open source one?13:09
user123321People, what are your current mouse speed settings? Thanks.13:10
Darshan_any one there, please need help13:11
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tollandWnt: linux-image-extra-3.11.0-22-generic: /lib/modules/3.11.0-22-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/radeon/radeon.ko13:12
Darshan_Please help i have install tomcat 7 in my ubuntu server, now i am not able to start the tomcat, i can start it , but the execution gets halt at one place http://pastie.org/924997113:14
Wnttolland: have you tried the open source driver? Does the same happen with that one?13:14
tollandDarshan_: try without any webapps, and see if it starts then13:14
OerHeksDarshan_, i know a little about tomcam, i think you have this ln issue > https://bugs.launchpad.net/serverguide/+bug/123225813:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1232258 in tomcat7 (Ubuntu) "tomcat7 installer fails to create symbolic links" [Undecided,Confirmed]13:15
tollandI mean, try to isolate if its a problem with the installation of tomcat or the webapp jar you are trying to deploy13:15
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tollandWnt: not recently. I recall switching from fglrx to radeon because it didn't support x1300 any more13:17
Raa rosewood13:18
Radon_3Paranoia could be a true real pain in the ass friends, sometimes you can't tell a real friend from the enemy and you would just go ahead and call anyone "enemy", god help me please .... anyways. my question: when the point release is out in june, I (using 12.04) would be asked to upgrade right? so would I probably have to reinstall some applications? like third party ones?13:19
Raahas anyone else had a problem getting programs for ubuntu lately? i know they said their service ended but does that mean we can't add any programs now?13:20
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Radon_3Raa: service ended?13:20
Raawell that's the message i got13:21
PiciRaa: What release of Ubuntu are you using?13:22
Radon_3Raa: what version are you using?13:22
Raait's either 10 or 1113:22
Raai've had it for a year or two13:22
Radon_3Raa: well, yeah, that's why, you have to upgrade, cause support ended for those versions ages ago13:23
Radon_3Raa: Why don't you upgrade?13:23
Raai just like it how it is, but i will now13:24
PiciRaa: for a release that old, you are better off with a reinstall.  Those came out in 2010 and 2011 respectively. (Ubuntu versions represent YEAR.MONTH of release)13:25
Raaok so do i upgrade at the website?13:25
Radon_3Raa: Yeah I know what you are talking about some releases could be addictive, each release and even each distro has a different taste...13:25
Radon_3With linux you are either in anItalian Resturant, or in a French one...13:26
PiciRaa: Yes.13:26
SaironI updated via the software updater, and now when booting ubuntu I get into terminal mode. startx takes me to some kind of "almost desktop mode", where I seem to be logged in, but there's 0 icons, only a background & a mouse pointer.13:26
Radon_3Raa: I would highly suggest a reinstall as well man...13:26
Radon_3Raa: by the way I am not a pro..13:27
Raaall the installs i found are  .exe files13:28
Radon_3Raa: what do you mean?13:28
Radon_3Raa: Go here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop13:29
Raa thanks13:29
Radon_3Raa: no problms13:30
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Radon_3ok guys, why is it that almost all of you professionals advice against the upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04, and tell me to just grab a fresh iso image and install everything anew... I kind of need to know why? is the upgrade proccess going to break things?13:32
boexhello everyone, I have quassel as irc client, and I'm trying to find the folder where the file with my channels list is. I know it is kde, but can someone maybe help?13:34
OerHeksRadon_3, upgrade disables 3th party apps, so yes, you might need to take a look at those.13:35
DJonesRadon_3: Its not a hard & fast rule, a lot of people like to do a fresh install of 14.04 rather than upgrade just because if they've had 12.04 for 2 years, over time you end up with old software that you don't use again & have forgotten, a fresh install just gives a fresh start13:35
Radon_3Nice... it feels good to be invisible13:35
s1991Hey can anyone help, I'm facing problem with my wireless mouse13:36
caitanyamy ubuntu went broke after upgrade from 12.10 -> 14.0413:37
Radon_3DJones: that's a very good and logical point actually, but some people like me who live in 3rd world countries are limited in the ammount of bandwidth they can use, and Ubuntu (debian) is thirsty for the Net, so ....13:37
caitanyacant connect using ssh to my laptop13:37
Radon_3caitanya: can you please please please please tell me what happened please?13:37
caitanyaresponds to ping but ssh doesnt work from my main computer13:38
caitanyasshd is listening13:38
stethoHi. I have a network problem that's making my head hurt. Therefore it's something obvious :-) . I have a machine 10.24.21.65. I can SSH to it and from it, I can telnet from it to 10.24.21.253 which is a switch and I can ping 10.24.16.0/21 (my network) expect one address. That address is 10.24.21.254 - my router. So this server has no internet access. The router is "obviously" working because I'm on Freenode using IRC. And the machine I'm using can ping13:38
stetho 10.24.21.254. Somewhere on this server though there's a setting that's stopping it getting to the router. I've checked iptables -L, ip route, route -n - they're all as they should be.13:38
mexi_d3Radon_3, Your download is about the same size with upgrade or reinstall.13:38
Wntboex: is there some directory like ~/.config/quassel-irc.org ?13:38
DJonesRadon_3: Thats true, but if you download a new iso for a fresh install and then install all the previous app's you had, and compare that to upgrading the original 12.04 system you'd probably end up downloading a similar amount of data13:38
boexWnt, yes there is!13:39
mexi_d3Radon_3, That is just for the OS. You'll have to update programs separately, of course. But more than likely, Trusty will update those to newer versions too, so more downloads.13:39
caitanyaradon_3: okay so xfce went broke (no taskbar) and sshd isnt responding from lan13:39
caitanyaradon_3: and gnome is also without taskbar13:40
boexWnt, but there are 2 .conf and a .sqlite file in it, which dont contain channel list13:40
Radon_3Guys, you have given me a lot of info, I did not know in a million years that upgrading is equal (in size) with a fresh install, and even more,.... <3 <3 thanks a lot folks....13:40
sickgirlhey you all13:40
Raahi sickgirl13:41
Radon_3caitanya: then I guess you have scared me enough, I am not moving to 14.04 then, I am at peace with my 12.04....13:41
lynx_Chupa jô13:41
DJonesRadon_3: If you don't install all the same apps, then a fresh install will be smaller in size than an upgrade13:41
sickgirlRaa: sup13:41
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JujuI want to crypt my folders... which is the name of the application to install (in repository) please?13:42
caitanyaradon_3: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh stop doesnt work also13:42
Wntboex: I have no experience in using or configuring quassel, but did you use a sqlite manager application to open the sqlite file or just a text editor?13:42
tollandWnt: generating an xorg.conf file using Xorg -configure seems to have allowed the X session to resume13:43
Radon_3caitanya: I honestly don't know what to say.... but I know I am not upgrading anytime soon. cause why hurt 12.04 when it is working awesome right?13:43
boexWnt, it doesnt open with any application I have, and I dont know what opens it13:43
boexWnt, ok, now suggestions came to install database applications13:44
Wntboex: I have used this Firefox add-on to manage sqlite databases: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/sqlite-manager/13:44
boexI'm now installing an application named Kexi13:44
boexWnt, I'm now installing an application named Kexi13:44
LucidGuyRunning Kubuntu12.04 .. thinking of installing ubuntu-desktop.. what are the chances I'm going to ruin my KDE desktop environment?13:45
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caitanya^Radon_3: i killed sshd and started it from /etc/init.d/ and now works13:45
Radon_3caitanya^: what about the desktop?13:46
motaka2hello I am trying to share a folder in ubuntu and I get this error:  'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error Permission deniedYou do not have permission to create a usershare. Ask your administrator to grant you permissions to create a share.13:46
caitanyaradon_3: after selectin xfce-session from lightdm bars are okay13:47
sickgirlHey guys after having a big trouble learning how to install ubuntu here I am, finally done! Thx for your patience and all guys who helped me. I was having some privacy issues (MANY) with windows, now I want to learn everything about security to not make stupid mistakes. advices?13:47
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makarahi. Something strange going on with `dh` in 14.0413:47
drorhi. i'm running 14.04, and my camera (canon powershot sx260 hs) isn't picked up when i connect it using usa and turn in on. no error message or anything, simply nothing. ideas?13:47
Radon_3caitanya: well that's good, you sure have got some experience....13:47
caitanyaradon_3: went broken again13:48
squidfusickgirl: Avoid the Unity interface, as it sends all search queries to Amazon. Avoid Chrome, as it's a proprietary browser made by Google who work closely with the NSA13:48
caitanyaradon_3: sshd not responding and only used irssi13:48
Radon_3caitanya: Am I being played with ?  ;)13:48
makarai installed debhelper package. When I run dh I get `dh: No compatibility level specified in debian/compat`13:48
makara`dh: This package will soon FTBFS; time to fix it!`13:48
caitanyaradon_3: now working. wtf ?13:48
makara`dh: cannot read debian/control: No such file or directory`13:49
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Radon_3caitanya: yeah I am not upgrading at all....13:49
caitanya^Radon_3: currently using screen+irssi only but works currently13:49
Radon_3Oh, life is good on 12.04. Don't mess with it...13:49
sickgirlsquidfu: firefox then?13:49
boexWnt, somehow the application didnt work, and I tried firefox add-on. which didnt work, either. was it sqlite manager that you used?13:50
sickgirlsquidfu: I'm using gnome 14.04 and I have an application Cairo Dock, any problems with that?13:50
squidfusickgirl: I suggest Firefox, as the openness of the web is a priority for the Mozillla foundation. Rather than Google, who make their money from advertising13:50
Raayeah firefox is my favorite too13:50
boexWnt, sorry, just noticed I had to start it as an application, now it opened13:51
sickgirlYesterday the computer updated a new version (software upload) but asked me my password, is that just fine right? I was worried was something more than just an update...13:51
mexi_d3If you want privacy/security and firefox you have to disable flash though as it has an unsupported, older version -> if there's an exploit in that, it'll never get fixed13:51
Radon_3and now I have 14.0.4.1-phobia ...13:51
Raaalright well i'm gonna try upgrading. i'll be back to say how well it worked for me ^_^ later, and thanks!13:51
sickgirlsquidfu: ok, thx. firefox on the, is necessary to erase date maybe?13:51
Seepy_hello13:52
mexi_d3On firefox you can set private mode and tell it to never store history13:52
Radon_3Raa: Can't wait for the news13:52
Wntboex: after installing the sqlite firefox add-on you can start the sqlite manager from the tools menu of firefox13:54
Squall5668Anyone here using finch? Just asking for impressions13:55
xangua!ask | Squall566813:55
Wntthen it'll ask which file to load if I remember correctly13:55
ubottuSquall5668: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience13:55
caitanya^Radon_3: again had to kill sshd and restart13:55
xanguaSquall5668: there is also #pidgin13:55
caitanya^quite unstable this 14.0413:56
Squall5668xangua: sorry, that does not count. I'm not asking to ask. I'm simply asking for anyone's impressions using finch. #pidgin is for support13:56
Radon_3caitanya^: by the way and out of curiousity have you updated all of your softwares using 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get upgrade' and 'apt-get dist-upgrade' ?13:57
SoulRavenhello13:57
SoulRaveni have a problem with /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lcares13:57
boexWnt, yes, I managed to open it :) but still l cant find any place with channel lists13:57
caitanya^Radon_3: apt-get dist-upgrade isnt done13:57
SoulRavenany ideea whay is this lib?13:57
mexi_d3caitanya^, Radon_3, If you're using the 3rd, you don't need the second.13:57
Radon_3caitanya^: OK, have you ?13:58
Radon_3mexi_d3: thanks for the info bro...13:59
tjcombobloodhi all!13:59
caitanya^Radon_3: done. nothing was upgraded13:59
SoulRavenany ideea what is this lib: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lcares13:59
Radon_3mexi_d3: yeah I agree, it didn't sound good "bro", I am sorry...13:59
caitanya^Radon_3: and now this connection seems stable13:59
Radon_3caitanya^: OK, I though maybe that might do it...14:00
tjcombobloodIs there a way to use a laptop like another device connected via LAN to my desktop: what I mean is not having a VNC remote delìsktop session, but a real another device (my laptop) that's seen from my desktop... Am I clear? Thank you guys! :]14:00
sickgirlis there any guide to beginners about security? I'm reading the topics on forum but too much stuff. I get confused14:00
Radon_3caitanya^: By the way i am new to linux and ubuntu... so ...14:00
mexi_d3caitanya^, I don't think your connection stability issues are Ubuntu related, unless it's an edge case wifi driver.14:01
SoulRaven?14:01
boexWnt, decided to leave it as it is :).. thank you heaps for your help!14:01
dino82sickgirl: What kind of security?  It's a broad term14:01
caitanya^mexi_d3: using wifi but normal gnome-desktop doesnt nor does lubuntu, xfce4 works14:01
sickgirldino82: anything I'm just new using ubuntu14:02
caitanya^mexi_d3: *doesnt work14:02
mexi_d3sickgirl, Ubuntu is reasonably securely installed out of the box. For now turn off browser history, update your OS and don't install anything from an untrusted source. There are guides out there if you look around.14:02
mexi_d3caitanya^, Define 'doesnt work'. Doesn't connect to wifi?14:02
sickgirlmexi_d3: ok thx!14:02
squidfuDepends on your definition of secure. It doesn't even have a firewall turned on by default14:02
caitanya^mexi_d3: doesnt load taskbars, just a wallpaper14:02
tjcombobloodjust to explain me better: is there a similar way on GNU\Linux to use an application like ***http://getidisplay.com/*** and my laptop is the device?14:03
OerHekssquidfu, but then again, what OS does turn your firewall on?14:03
mexi_d3squidfu, What ports are open in a default install?14:03
Radon_3sickgirl: these might help you sis : https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/   and    http://debian-handbook.info/14:04
sickgirlRadon_3: thank you =)14:04
makarahi. How can I get tree view in nautilus?14:05
mexi_d3No, that will break Ubuntu. Its debian security!14:05
Radon_3sickgirl: But don't forget this general rule: Know what is where, and try to know why it is there...14:05
squidfumexi_d3: No idea14:05
sickgirlRadon_3: it's hard, I'm lazy.. but I will try14:05
Taran ciao14:05
Radon_3sickgirl: I guess everybody is... :)14:05
mexi_d3squidfu, So how do you know it needs a firewall?14:05
xanguamakara: you don't14:06
xanguanot anymore14:06
CVirusis /var/crash dir created on the first time a coredump is generated ?14:06
squidfumexi_d3: Because it's a good default to offer one to the user, without an extra install. Both Windows/Mac do14:06
mexi_d3squidfu, Those aren't Ubuntu though.14:07
DexterFhi14:07
makaraxangua: there's a setting in properties > display > navigate folders in a tree14:08
makaraI turned it on but nothing happened. I've tried restarting nautilus `nautilus -q`14:08
DexterFhow do I tell which nvidia driver for what card? I have a 9500 and a GT24014:08
makaraand this guy couldn't find the settings, but did it in dconf-editor and was happy enough to blog it :http://lifepluslinux.blogspot.com/2014/04/enable-tree-view-in-ubuntu-1404.html14:09
makaraso what the heck???14:09
doctorpepperhi guys.14:09
Picihi doc14:09
doctorpepperhow can i enable  internet access on wine?  note: i am on wifi14:10
mexi_d3doctorpepper, WINE should use Ubuntu's regular connectivity. What are you trying to do?14:10
ikoniadoctorpepper: you don't enable it in wine, wine is just an application14:10
squidfudoctorpepper: WINE should automatically be able to access your network/Internet14:11
SoulRavenany ideea what is this lib: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lcares14:11
SoulRaven?14:11
doctorpeppermexi: i am trying to watch  the wwdc event on safari for windows14:12
mexi_d3SoulRaven: Does this help? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16710047/usr-bin-ld-cannot-find-lnameofthelibrary14:12
mexi_d3doctorpepper: If you have internet on your ubuntu, loading safari under wine should continue to use the same connection. Do  you need to install any special software for WWDC?14:13
squidfuIsn't Quicktime used for the WWDC?14:13
ikoniawhy use safari14:13
doctorpepperquicktime14:13
ikoniaseems an odd solution14:13
doctorpepperthe issue  is that i cant access any website when running a web browers under wine14:14
derpcan I read out loud my pdf?14:14
derptext to speech?14:14
mexi_d3doctorpepper, Is there a link for the WWDC stream? I'll try it on my machine.14:15
ikoniadoctorpepper: why are you using wine ?14:15
lixderp: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TextToSpeech14:15
eakkyHelp Me14:15
Radon_3derp: I guess you could with orca screen reader, but it doesn't sound too natural, so you might wanna dig a lil deeper for natural sounding stuff14:16
mexi_d3ikonia, They say on the web you can only view it live on an apple device etc14:16
motaka2hello I am trying to share a folder in ubuntu and I get this error:  'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error Permission deniedYou do not have permission to create a usershare. Ask your administrator to grant you permissions to create a share.14:16
mexi_d3ikonia, It's probably not true of course14:16
doctorpepperikonia:  because  i need a browser with quicktime support  and the quicktime support on linux doesnt work for me14:16
ikoniamexi_d3: safari is not an applie device though14:17
mexi_d3ikonia, Yea there's something weird with what the user is trying14:17
ikoniaas I read it you need the app14:17
ikoniabut I could be wrong about that14:17
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squidfudoctorpepper: There are probably websites restreaming the event, similar to E314:17
Piciikonia: I thought you needed an apple device as well.14:18
eakkyUnity Ok No Problem But Desktop Not Control14:18
DJonesderp: http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/listen_your_books_epub_pdf_okular This suggests it can be done fairly easily with okular, not sure how up to date the info in the link is though14:18
eakkyhttp://upic.me/show/5130591914:18
ikoniaPici the app only appears to run on apple devices, eg: mac OS14:18
eakkyhttp://upic.me/show/51305919 help me14:18
mexi_d3I've just taken at look at their website. They say: Live streaming video requires Safari 4 or later on OS X v10.6 or later; Safari on iOS 4.2 or later. Streaming via Apple TV requires second- or third-generation Apple TV with software 5.0.2 or later.14:18
MaxHello. I would like to use Ubuntu on my Sandisk Cruzer 32 GB Stick.14:18
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Guest23279How can I use Ubuntu on a bootable USB Stick?14:19
Guest23279I just managed to make a Ubuntu Installer stick14:19
squidfuGuest23279: Yes14:19
Guest23279But I would like to use it only from USB14:19
mexi_d3Oh for crying out loud: WWDC It doesn't work in my windows 7 either :-(14:19
ikoniamexi_d3: that's how I read it too14:19
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eakkyHi, I get help from someone who is in this room. Anyone help me Please help me14:20
eakkyHi, I get help from someone who is in this room. Anyone help me Please help me14:20
squidfuIf you can't afford a Mac, you don't deserve to watch ;)14:20
ikoniaeakky: just saying help is worthless, state your question then wait for an answer please14:20
Picieakky: You need to ask a question first.  Posting a screenshot isn't a question.14:20
eakkySorry if gaffe14:20
mexi_d3Ah ... i have it working in safari on windows, with quicktime14:21
doctorpepperhow can i solve the networking  issue, cause it also affect games14:21
mexi_d3apple lies!14:21
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mexi_d3No wait, I dont14:21
mexi_d3I lie14:21
ikoniadoctorpepper: what network issue ?14:21
mexi_d3apple can GTH14:22
ikoniamexi_d3: easy there please,14:22
doctorpepperikonia: i dont have any internet connection on wine apps  for some reason14:23
Guest23279Hello can someone help?14:23
Guest23279I would like to create a bootable USB stick14:23
Guest23279but not with the installer on it14:23
ikoniadoctorpepper: wine can be limiting, I think you'll need to check each application against the wine app db to check it's compatibility/status14:23
Guest23279only to boot ubuntu14:23
Radon_3doctorpepper: Iam just asking a simple question, don't expect huge help, but what release of ubuntu are you using?14:24
OerHeksGuest23279, the ubuntu iso has got a live-mode too.14:24
mistawrightGuest23279, install ubuntu to the flash drive then. boot loader and all14:24
Guest23279Yes but I dont want to use live mode14:25
mistawrightGuest23279, are you looking for file persistence?14:25
Guest23279So I have to Install Ubuntu from my Installer on my USB Stick?14:25
mistawrightthats what it sounds like14:25
Guest23279No, i would like to use Ubuntu as a Live Operating System14:25
OerHeksGuest23279, then use a 2nd usb to install ubuntu on, make sre you put grub on the right device.14:26
Guest23279Just from USB stick14:26
Guest23279Okay, so I can use the USB Installer on a second USB device to install it on another USB stick?14:26
OerHekssure14:26
Guest23279Okay, and can I boot Ubuntu then from Mac and Windows machines?14:26
doctorpepperRadon_3:  i am using 12.04 with wine ppa14:26
eakkyI need help, I'm having trouble because I upgraded Ketnel unknown source It has no problem with Unity But there is a problem with the desktop system is not able to control anything. Based on such images http://upic.me/show/5130591914:27
Radon_3doctorpepper: OK .... cool14:27
OerHeksGuest23279, well, that is an other problem, the hardware isn't the same.14:27
FlashDelhi folks! I got a problem, i installed a fresh kubuntu 14.04 on a notebook, with a crypted lvm system. If i boot i get the error "/scripts/local-top/cryptroot line 1 can't open /dev/mapper/myvg-root no such file or directory" and the system won`t boot. I tried to boot with  a rootdelay=10, but that didn`t help either. Can somebody help me please?14:27
Guest23279Okay, but I can use it on almost every Windows computer?14:27
Radon_3doctorpepper: can this maybe help you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=768021?14:28
Guest23279I just want to do all my programming stuff on my Ubuntu USB stick independent from my Windows isntallation14:28
derpwhat about using e-speak for text to speech?14:28
eakkyBut there is a problem with the desktop system is not able to control anything. Based on such images http://upic.me/show/51305919 Somebody help for me14:28
eakkyI need help, I'm having trouble because I upgraded Ketnel unknown source It has no problem with Unity But there is a problem with the desktop system is not able to control anything. Based on such images http://upic.me/show/51305919 Somebody help for me14:28
squidfueakky: You upgraded the Linux kernel from an unknown source?14:29
eakkyyes14:29
mexi_d3Guest23279, What is the problem with using a normal livecd? You just don't click the installer? (BTW have you considered running Ubuntu in a VM?)14:29
eakkyi upgrade from gnome shell14:29
derpDJones, if I read your link correctly i need jovie14:29
Guest23279Okay but can I update Ubuntu from my installation?14:30
Guest23279From the Live Version from the Installer USB?14:30
mexi_d3Guest23279, The old live installer could, if you created a persistence area on the usb. I have no not tried the new one but I have no reason to believe they remove the ability.14:31
polycohello everyone, I've changed my ubuntu login password via system settings, and the process is going on for over 10 minutes. even if I close the password change window, it continues in the background. can it be normal that it takes so long?14:31
Guest23279Okay but isn't it better to install it completely on the USB?14:32
Guest23279I dont want do skip the Installer promopt every day14:32
Radon_3Guest23279: why don't you just install the whole ubuntu on the flash drive? http://www.howtogeek.com/97177/how-to-put-ubuntu-linux-on-a-usb-thumb-drive-without-the-mess/     http://askubuntu.com/questions/239792/how-to-install-and-use-ubuntu-from-a-usb-flash-drive-on-windows-814:32
Roryhttp://www.opentopia.com/webcam/14738?viewmode=livevideo14:33
mexi_d3Guest23279, That's up to you. I don't recommen USB though for serious work. They're slow and wear out. A VM would be better. I'd only use USB for repairing broken machines or if I had to do something that I didn't want to leave traces of (in which case 'losing' the USB stick would leave no useful records on my machine)14:33
mexi_d3Just to be clear I am talking about using a USB Live Installer, not saving data to usb14:34
ubuntuinstallhi am trying to install ubuntu 14.04 on my dell inspiron 3537 laptop and am stuck at a black screen can anyone please help me out?14:36
Radon_3ubuntuinstall: have you completed the installation?14:36
ubuntuinstallRadon_3: no not yet14:37
Radon_3ubuntuinstall: Then I don't know what is your situation.... sorry.14:37
ubuntuinstallRadon_3: I have ubuntu 12.04 pre installed and now am trying to install ubuntu 14.04 from a usb14:37
polycohello everyone, I've changed my ubuntu login password via system settings, and the process is going on for over 10 minutes. even if I close the password change window, it continues in the background. can it be normal that it takes so long?14:39
OerHeks!nomodeset | ubuntuinstall14:40
ubottuubuntuinstall: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter14:40
ddsscwhat's the best way to clone my system on a remote machine using apt?14:41
ddsscI wanna get all the installed packages and clone them with apt, then I wanna do the same with pip. possible14:41
ddssc?14:41
ubuntuinstallOerHeks: thanks seems to be the problem14:42
mistawrightdpkg --get-selections > installed-software14:42
mistawrightddssc, thats your command for packages14:42
Piciddssc: pip freeze14:42
ddsscPici,  I know pip freeze, is there an equivalent for apt? I'd like to do apt-get install requirements.txt14:43
mistawrightddssc, dpkg --get-selections > installed-software14:44
mistawrightto get listed14:44
Piciddssc: you may want to also look at the apt-clone package, but I haven't used it personally.14:44
ddsscmistawright, thanks14:44
farbodhi14:45
whoeverfarbod: hi14:45
farbodi want to format my partishen from ntfs to ext4 but only i need d&f14:46
farbodhow toformat drive C to ext4?14:46
farbodonly C14:46
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farbodslm fatemeh14:48
ddsscPici, does apt-clone also copy my config files ? like if I have like apache config etc...14:48
ActionParsnip!rootiurc | xmk314:49
Piciddssc: I doubt it.14:49
ActionParsnip!rootirc | xmk314:49
farbod?14:49
ubottuxmk3: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.14:49
farbodplease answer me14:49
ActionParsnipfarbod: you will need the partition that you know as "C drive" to be unmounted, you can then format it. GParted can do all this14:50
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ActionParsnip!rootirc | Guest4111114:51
ubottuGuest41111: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.14:51
farbodGParted is for ubuntu?14:54
OerHeksfarbod, yes14:54
area51pilotbluetooth on an Intel Wireless-AC 7260 minicard keeps crashing in 14.04.  Have latest firmware loaded to the firmware directory .... any ideas how to correct?14:58
squidfuarea51pilot: Have you tried debugging the hardware?14:59
area51pilotno15:00
area51pilotsquidfu ... not sure where to start15:00
niranjan_Hi, how can I check if the box I have logged in is ubuntu desktop or server15:04
niranjan_I am using ssh15:04
ActionParsnipniranjan_: ps -ef | grep -i dm15:05
niranjan_ActionParsnip: Thank you15:05
ActionParsnipniranjan_: or:  uname -a | egrep [server|generic]15:06
ActionParsnipniranjan_: or:  uname -a | egrep 'server|generic'    sorry15:06
squidfuActionParsnip: I thought server no longer exists15:06
squidfuActionParsnip: At least in newer versions of the OS15:06
niranjan_Last one does not work, even on known server, it does not print server or generic15:06
ActionParsnipsquidfu: sure it does, why would it not?15:07
ActionParsnip!info linux-image-server15:07
ubottulinux-image-server (source: linux-meta): Transitional package.. In component main, is optional. Version 3.13.0.27.33 (trusty), package size 1 kB, installed size 28 kB15:07
squidfuActionParsnip: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2011-October/017471.html15:07
ActionParsnipsquidfu: funky stuff ;)15:08
SkyCaptainhey, I am looking for some help configuring xterm in Ubuntu, basically if I change the font to anything aside from the default, it flickers on resize and screen switching, making it unusable. The default font, as adjusted by menus to a readable size, is fine. Does anyone know how to set the default font on Xterm to the default + larger setting?15:10
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bgardnerniranjan_: For Ubuntu it's an abstract concept anymore - what defines 'server' to you?  For some users (me) it would be if X is not installed.15:11
squidfubgardner: The configuration of the Kernel is still different in the server version I think15:11
ActionParsnipbgardner: a server is a process that offers a service to other processes15:12
flingHello guys!15:12
flingCan please somebody tell me what is the name of this song? -> http://mirror.dno.so/incoming/song.mp315:12
niranjan_bgardner: Agreed, my problem is there are two remote machines hosted on ec2. And there are some differences. I know both machines run GUI programs using xvfb, but facing some problems15:12
niranjan_Trying to find the differences between two machines15:12
Pici!ot | fling15:12
ubottufling: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!15:12
Fritzenduganhi, is there a specific channel for wine related stuff on ubuntu?15:12
flingPici: sorry.15:13
bgardnerActionParsnip: While dictionary-accurate, in the context of the asking question I don't think that definition would apply.15:14
bazhang#winehq Fritzendugan15:15
Fritzenduganbazhang, awesome thanks15:15
bgardnerActionParsnip: It's actually a common question that I think is hard to answer: "Was Ubuntu installed on machine X as a desktop or a server?"  Since you can change the role later, this is really hard to quantify.15:15
oversdsdsd15:15
ActionParsnipbgardner: if you install an X server on it then it becomes a desktop OS15:16
niranjan_bgardner: We run browser scripts on machines that started as desktop. For some reason, machine fingerprints are coming different and I am trying to investigate why15:16
ActionParsnipbgardner: it may have server-like services and function as a server but its a desktop OS15:16
bgardnerActionParsnip: Yeah, I'm wondering if the answer isn't really relevant.  I would say all Ubuntu instances can be viewed as servers, or better: that the difference isn't worth defining.15:17
bgardnerAnyway, niranjan_, back to your question: How are they different?15:18
niranjan_bgardner: That's what I am trying to find. They started with same virtual image, so they should be same.15:19
niranjan_I am going throgh installed packages to find out what exactly is happening and wanted eliminate one variable15:19
FritzenduganActionParsnip, so if you create a server that's designed to be a VNC server to lots of clients, that computer isn't a server anymore? That's a very narrow (I'd say commonly considered incorrect) definition of a server.15:20
Fritzendugan(should probably take the discussion to ubuntu-offtopic though)15:21
niranjan_bgardner: Gut feeling is, there were some packages installed on "older" box and are not part of the original image and causing differences. Big headaches15:21
botcrusherhello!15:22
farbodhi15:22
bgardnerniranjan_: Let us know if/when you rule out installed packages.  That should be really quick to check.15:22
niranjan_Thank you. Will do my checks and try to figure out.15:23
botcrusherI'm part a of a project to make an ubuntu based educaton/ workspace system, the idea is to connect weaker touch terminals to centralized servers with more powerful cpu/gpu's for the heftier loads, my question is is it possible to use the weaker gpu's (gt 260) to accelerate the remote X session?15:24
ubuntuinstallhi can anyone please help me out with this error http://i.imgur.com/SEEHdy8.jpg while installing ubuntu from live usb stick15:25
botcrusheri have an inspirion 660, i recognise that bios15:26
botcrusherwell, your kernel had a panic15:27
botcrusheris this a laptop?15:27
ubuntuinstallbotcrusher: yes dell inspiron15:27
ubuntuinstallbotcrusher: its dell inspiron 15 353715:28
botcrusherAh, ok!15:28
botcrusherthe touch one?15:28
ubuntuinstallbotcrusher: no not touch15:28
ubuntuinstallbotcrusher: can you help?15:29
botcrusheryeah im looking15:29
botcrusherdid you download the iso frm some alternate server?15:30
botcrusherubuntuinstall: Which server did you download the iso from, main?15:30
ubuntuinstallbotcrusher: yes I download it from mainserver15:31
botcrusherubuntuinstall: what program are you using for the usb install?15:31
opkohello everyone, is this command correct to erase a disk, or can it be written better: dd if=/dev/zero of=path/to/file bs=512 count=1 conv=notrunc ? thank you so much!15:32
ubuntuinstallbotcrusher: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/15:32
farbodubuntuinstall: its better to use unetbootin15:32
botcrusherubuntuinstall:  ahh good ol' UUI15:32
botcrusherubuntuinstall: alright thats good, where was the instal when it crashed?15:33
farbodubuntuinstall: unetbootin  is the better because it hasen't problem15:33
farbodubuntuinstall: use that app to install ubuntu with no error15:34
ubuntuinstallbotcrusher: it asked for options whether I want to try ubuntu without installing or install ubuntu and other options and it gets stuck at this screen in both the options15:34
farbodubuntuinstall: i use it15:34
farbod:D15:34
ubuntuinstallfarbod: so is the error causing because of the program I used?15:34
botcrusherfarbod:  unetbootin works too i just prefer uui15:34
LinuxNewbyHallo. Bei der Installation von Ubuntu auf einen USB Stick kommt es zu einer Fehlermeldung15:34
LinuxNewby"Es wurde kein Root Dateisystem festgelegt. Bitte beheben sie dies im Partitionierungsprogramm."15:35
botcrusherubuntuinstall: no, UUI should be working, you are also running the same bios as me15:35
LinuxNewbyWas muss ich tun? Bin hier gerade unter Ubuntu15:35
botcrusherubuntuinstall: and with similar chipsets15:35
opkohello everyone, is this command correct to erase a disk, or can it be written better: dd if=/dev/zero of=path/to/file bs=512 count=1 conv=notrunc ? thank you so much!15:35
DJones!de | LinuxNewby15:36
ubottuLinuxNewby: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!15:36
botcrusherubuntuinstall: were there ANY errors that UUI gave you?15:36
ubuntuinstallbotcrusher: I forgot to mention it came with ubuntu 12.04 pre installed and now am trying to install 14.0415:36
botcrusherAhh15:36
botcrusherok15:36
botcrusherthat helps15:36
LinuxNewbyHello.When installing Ubuntu from to my USB stick I get a error message called "No Root Filesystem"15:37
ubuntuinstallbotcrusher: no there were no errors while making the bootable disk15:37
botcrusherthats makes me think there is some weird clash with the new version of the kernel15:37
opkohello everyone, is this command correct to erase a disk: dd if=/dev/zero of=path/to/file bs=512 count=1 conv=notrunc ?15:37
LinuxNewbyWhat can I do? I am using Ubuntu right now15:37
botcrusherubuntuinstall: personally i use a distro called zorin based off 13.1015:37
botcrusherit uses a slightly older kernel,15:38
ubuntuinstallbotcrusher: so what should I do now?15:38
botcrusherhmm15:38
opkonoone to tell me?15:38
botcrusheri remember that with older versions of ubuntu you could only upgrade one version at a time15:39
botcrushernot sure if that still applies15:39
opkohello everyone, is this command correct to erase a disk, or can it be written better: dd if=/dev/zero of=path/to/file bs=512 count=1 conv=notrunc ? thank you so much!15:39
ubuntuinstallbotcrusher: is there a way to remove ubuntu 12.04 first and then install 14.04?15:39
botcrusherwell...strange thing ies15:40
s1991hey guys I'm having problm with my wireless mouse, pls help!!!15:40
LinuxNewbyWhat can I do?15:40
LinuxNewbyShould I format the USB flash drive in Ubuntu?15:41
botcrusherby booting from the disk you arnt using the old kerne15:41
botcrusherso, does it say anything before that screen you posted?15:42
botcrusherwhat was the last thing you saw before that panic15:42
ubuntuinstallthe last screen was it gave 4 options out of which three i remember 115:44
ubuntuinstallbotcrusher: 1)Try ubuntu without installing15:44
ubuntuinstallbotcrusher: 2)install ubuntu15:44
botcrusherubuntuinstall:  ok so no matter what you click you get that panic15:44
ubuntuinstallbotcrusher: yes15:44
botcrushertry this inside ubuntu 12.0415:46
botcrusherdo-release-upgrade15:46
botcrusherthat should be the safer way15:46
morph-you got the right arch ubuntuinstall ?15:46
OerHeksubuntuinstall, is there any windows 8 with fastboot enabled on that machine?15:46
ikonia.away not here15:46
ikoniaoops15:47
botcrusherOerHeks: no, its one of dell's shipped with ubuntu machine15:47
ubuntuinstallbotcrusher: but that will try to download from the server right? am not connected to internet from that machine15:47
botcrusheroh?15:47
ubuntuinstallOerHeks: no it has ubuntu 12.04 pre installed15:48
morph-u have the wrong architecture, UEFI enabeld or your disk is corrupted15:48
botcrusherit's not possible to get that machin e on the network?15:48
ubuntuinstallmorph-: I have legacy boot enabled15:48
morph-what did ya dl15:48
botcrusherubuntuinstall: as you should since UEFI is sketchy at best15:48
ubuntuinstallbotcrusher: even If i enable uefi and try to boot from usb it says there's no boot device15:49
s1991why I'm seeing my wireless mouse as " Weltrend Semiconductor " when running "lsusb"*********15:50
morph-did u check ur md5sum?15:50
botcrusherubuntuinstall:  yeah i had to set my dell to legacy as well15:50
botcrusherubuntuinstall:  so not much suprise there15:50
ubuntuinstallmorph-: yes the hashes match15:50
morph-hmm15:51
morph-can u walk me through ur exact problem?15:51
morph-i missed it15:51
ubuntuinstallbotcrusher: I guess that is because the previous ubuntu 12.04 is installed in legacy15:51
ubuntuinstallmorph-: http://i.imgur.com/SEEHdy8.jpg15:51
ubuntuinstallmorph-: I have a dell inspiron 15 3537 which came in pre installed ubuntu 12.04 and now am trying to install ubuntu 14.04 from usb and I get this error when i choose to install or to try wihout installing15:52
ubuntuinstallbotcrusher: the machine does not connects to the wireless network that's the reason am upgrading to 14.0415:53
morph-ok15:53
morph-reboot15:53
morph-when u get to the grub menu preess e and remove quet and splash from the kernel ya want15:54
morph-and umm15:54
morph-vt.handoff=715:54
morph-and on the line that reads set gfxpayload=$linux_gfx_mode, replace with set gfxpayload=text15:54
morph-ctrl+x15:54
ubuntuinstallmorph-: by the grup menu you mean the menu where it gives these options right?15:55
morph-yea15:55
morph-lets u pick what kernel ur booting into15:55
morph-safe mode etc15:55
botcrusherubuntuinstall: you wouldnt hapen to have the name iof that adapter would you?15:57
botcrusherubuntuinstall: i might be able to get a driver for you, because i doubt an os upgrade is going to fix that connection issue, plus kernel panic's are nasty15:58
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morph-oh and ubuntuinstall https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/usb-creator-gtk/15:59
morph-use that to create the usb15:59
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morph-make sure ya got secure boot disabled and ur settings to legacy15:59
morph-then press f1215:59
morph-then pick your usb drive15:59
daftykinsmorph-: you're giving terrible advice and pressing enter too much16:00
morph-that is very solid advice16:00
botcrusherubuntuinstall:  btw you are far from being the only person with issues with that wifi module16:00
morph-what are u on about?16:00
botcrusherubuntuinstall: a quick search yielded many annoyed users that are having connection issues16:01
ubuntuinstallmorph-: I am on the screen where it asks for whether to try wihout install, install ubuntu or check disk for defects16:01
botcrusherim afraid that i can't really help much more with the kernel panic, but i can get you that driver16:02
morph-well since the first 2 dont work might as well check it16:02
botcrusherso you can upgrade the proper / safer/ optimised way16:02
ubuntuinstallmorph-: nothing happens on pressing e16:02
tgm4883I'm trying to find out why a couple wordpress sites couldn't connect to a mysql DB until I restarted mysql (it was previously working fine), but there are no mysql logs. Any ideas where I should be looking? I don't see much in syslog16:02
morph-let me see if I got a cd or something here16:02
ubuntuinstallbotcrusher: ok sure :)16:02
Sivikwhen attempting to connect to a windows machine, I get the following error from rdesktop and krdc/remmena don't work: http://pastebin.com/AGv5SQFs I have already disabled avahi daemon16:02
SivikAny thoughts on why this is still not working?16:03
morph-ubuntuinstall https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelBoot16:03
ubuntuinstallmorph-: was this menu the grub menu?16:04
morph-https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions16:04
botcrusherhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/373404/no-wifi-on-ubuntu-12-04-lts-after-today-software-update16:05
botcrusheri think i found your driver16:05
morph-noacpi nomodeset16:05
morph-set those16:05
botcrusherubuntuinstall: is there anywhere you can plug in the ethernet16:07
morph-https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging16:07
morph-theres lots of good links there16:07
ubuntuinstallbotcrusher: am afraid not16:07
morph-id honestly bet money your answer is in there16:07
botcrusherubuntuinstall:  for the panic in question follow morph- 's advice16:07
ubuntuinstallmorph-: am getting the same screen16:07
motaka2hello I am trying to share a folder in ubuntu and I get this error:  'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error Permission deniedYou do not have permission to create a usershare. Ask your administrator to grant you permissions to create a share.16:08
botcrusherubuntuinstall: issue is im seeing other people trying to update to either 13 or 14 but the wireless is not resolved16:08
morph-can you get into 12.04 still?16:08
motaka2I wonder why thios is so difficult to solve?16:08
ubuntuinstallmorph-: yes I can still get into 12.0416:08
morph-boot into that and open up terminal and type sudo update-manager -d16:09
botcrushermotaka2:  try sudo nautilus16:09
botcrusherthat will open the file manager as root16:10
botcrusheraka administrator16:10
holstein!samba | motaka216:10
ubottumotaka2: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html16:10
holsteinmotaka2: assuming you are trying to create a samba share?16:10
holsteinmotaka2: i typically just use ssh from linux to linux16:11
botcrusherif its possible, called me old fashion but... i would just make an FTP share16:11
motaka2botcrusher: thank you ur solution worked perfectly16:11
morph-that'll take care of you ubuntuinstall16:11
botcrushermotaka2: your welcome!16:11
morph-oh16:11
morph-er16:11
morph-you don't have internet. that's right.16:12
ubuntuinstallmorph-: yeah :(16:12
morph-okay well just follow that link i gave you earlier16:12
motaka2holstein: Thanks I will hvae those links16:12
ubuntuinstallmorph-: is there a way to upgrade 12.04 to 14.04 from a usb disk?16:12
ubbunntuwhy does ubuntu 14.04 has two names : trusty and kylin?16:12
ubbunntuwhy why why?16:13
holsteinubbunntu: it doesnt16:13
OerHeksubbunntu, kylin is the chines optimized version16:13
leeyaahello16:13
morph-yea16:13
morph-the thing is ubuntuinstall you gotta do it right16:13
morph-https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick16:13
holsteinubbunntu: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/ubuntu-kylin16:13
morph-you can't just drag and drop the iso16:13
leeyaai have a cisco router that i need to connect to my ubuntu box via usb serial cable. is there anything special i need to enable for this to work ?16:13
leeyaawhen i plug the cable i get nothing in dmesg16:14
leeyaalike it doesnt detect it16:14
holsteinleeyaa: what are you trying to accomplish?16:14
shoerainCan I search for packages across PPAs? Like vim from ppa:pi-rho/dev ? I totally don't know how to discover useful PPAs except from other people/guides online16:14
botcrusherleeyaa: does the ethernet port have lights? if so do they turn on16:14
leeyaaholstein: connect to the router's serial console16:14
leeyaano that port has no lights16:14
leeyaayou mean on the router right ?16:15
botcrusherleeyaa: i hate when they do that16:15
leeyaayeah same16:15
morph-is that what you did ubuntuinstall? just dragged and dropped the iso?16:15
holsteinleeyaa: sure.. *why*, since i would like to offer an alternative to the same outcome that will work, if possible16:15
leeyaaholstein: well16:15
holstein!ppa | shoerain16:15
ubottushoerain: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge16:15
leeyaai guess you are supposed to plug rj cable to router's serial port and usb end to your box16:16
leeyaaor it is the other way around ?16:16
holsteinshoerain: you'll just need to discover them.. anyone can create one. and they are not officially supported, so there is no infrastructure to track16:16
botcrusherthat sounds correct16:16
leeyaahm16:16
ubuntuinstallmorph-: no i created a bootable disk first using prog from http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ and then tried unetbootin as well16:16
leeyaaso maybe some module i need to enable ?16:16
botcrusherwe can rule out the usb maker16:17
holsteinleeyaa: you are testing many things there.. the USB to serial device, and the connection to the networking device.. i would try and break that up. test USB, then USB to serial device.. *then* move to connecting to the device16:17
holsteinubbunntu: what is the issue?16:17
leeyaaholstein: the usb port itself on computer is working for sure16:17
morph-ubuntuinstall is this how you did it? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2108487&page=3&p=12656460#post1265646016:18
leeyaadonno how to test that cable16:18
holsteinleeyaa: then, move on.. the device, the USB to serial device has never worked in linux.. correct?16:18
shoerainholstein: well I was looking for a search engine for PPAs. Also, there's stuff like ubuntu-mozilla-daily/firefox-aurora, which is an official PPA by way of the Firefox devs16:18
leeyaaholstein: yes16:18
holsteinleeyaa: if that doesnt work, it will *never* connect to the networking device16:18
holsteinleeyaa: if its either broken, or doesnt provide linux support16:18
leeyaaholstein: it does provide linux support, i checked that16:19
holsteinshoerain: its *not* officially supported by ubuntu, is what im saying16:19
shoerainholstein: yup yup, I should've mentioned I know that16:19
holsteinshoerain: there is not a system to track them... anyone can make them. and although mozilla officially supports that one, we cant16:19
ceokehello everyone, do you think it's time to install 14.04., or better to wait until the first upgrade ?16:19
leeyaabut i am not sure if that computer has support for that usb serial cable. it is a mini computer16:19
shoerainthat still, I was just hoping there was a search engine of PPAs and so on16:19
shoerains/still/being said/16:20
holsteinleeyaa: im just saying what i would do, and if you have not tested, you are assuming the cable works.. and if it doesnt, it will never connect16:20
ActionParsnipceoke: what release are you on now?16:20
ceoke12.04.16:20
ceokeActionPArsnip, 12.04.16:20
holsteinshoerain: *anyone* can create one at anytime.. so, there is no system for that16:20
ActionParsnipceoke: is it working ok?16:20
LinuxGuruzI'm using 14.04 without any issues16:21
ActionParsnipceoke: all hardware working as expected etc?16:21
ceokeActionPArsnip, to be precise, I've had "system problem detected" messages throughout my use of 12.04. but this wasnt an error that affected anything..yes, hardware works without problems.16:21
ActionParsnipceoke: then why fix what isnt broken?16:22
ActionParsnipceoke: Precise is supported til April 2017.16:22
ActionParsnipceoke: 3 years away..16:22
ceokeActionPArsnip, I agree.16:22
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ceokeActionPArsnip, I'd just heard of some enhancements in 14.04. that's why I thought whether it I might try it16:23
ActionParsnipceoke: doesnt sem sensible to me16:24
ceokeActionPArsnip, I see your point. as a matter of fact, I've been quite happy with 12.04, too16:24
ceokeActionPArsnip, thank you for your opinion :)16:26
s1991anybody pls??16:34
holsteins1991: just ask, if you have a question16:35
s1991my wireless mouse-keyboard usb dongle is not working16:35
s1991holstein: ^16:36
holsteins1991: are you sure? if its not working, there is nothing software can do to address that.. make sure its broken, and go from there16:36
s1991holstein: no, its working in windows, but not in ubuntu16:36
holsteins1991: so, it *is* working.. then..16:36
holsteins1991: what have you tried to make it work in linux?16:37
s1991holstein: I mean I'm having problm connecting in ubuntu16:37
holsteins1991: problems connecting?16:37
s1991holstein: when I does "lsusb" it show that as "Weltrend Semiconductor", but what's that?16:38
holsteins1991: typyically these things just work.. try *all* USB ports.. bypass any usb hubs.. try re-initializing the connection16:38
s1991holstein: I've tried all usb port, how do I re-install it, it is plug and play16:39
holsteins1991: "Weltrend Semiconductor" could be the usb device you are referencing. the chipset that is inside, or, the guess that linux is making to try and support your device for you16:39
holsteins1991: you didnt install, so you dont reinstall16:39
holsteins1991: have you tried re-initializing the connections? on the units, there should be little "connect" buttons.. try those16:39
s1991holstein: I didn't get it, which connect buttons16:40
holsteins1991: on the physical units.. the actual mouse.. on the bottom. and on the keyboard.. the units youa re trying to connect16:40
holsteins1991: you are assuming the usb dongle isnt working in linux.. dont do that.. try assuming the dongle *is* working for a moment, and reconnect the mouse and/or keybaord to the USB dongle16:41
s1991holstein: I've no such thing, I've a usb dongle which does that16:41
holsteins1991: ok.. so, try that button, then16:41
holsteins1991: on *all* the units i have seen, there are connect buttons that establish a connection between the dongle and the units16:42
s1991holstein: I guess connction btwen dongle and mouse-keyboard is automatic, I just need to plug to make the connection nothing else, there's no other button16:43
holsteins1991: sure.. but, dont guess that.. try re-initializing that connection.. how does the documntaion suggest that connection can be reset?16:44
holsteindocumentation*16:44
s1991holstein: that doesn't suggest anything, it just tell  to plug for making connection16:45
holsteins1991: ok.. then, the device may not support linux.. they likely didnt promise they would.. let them know its not working for you16:46
okpilhello community, I try to execute a .sh script, but even after setting it to "execute as program" it still opens in editor16:46
holsteins1991: i would try a few different live CD's, and make a note of the kernel version if working, and try and determine what is supporting the device16:47
holsteinokpil: execute in terminal16:47
holsteinokpil: http://askubuntu.com/questions/38661/how-do-i-run-sh-files-in-terminal16:47
s1991holstein: ok, i will16:48
jhutchinsholstein: On more recent wireless keyboards and mice there is no "connect" or "sync" button, often just a power switch.16:48
okpilholstein, I solved it via this thread: http://askubuntu.com/questions/286621/how-do-i-run-executable-scripts-in-nautilus16:49
okpilholstein, it solved the problem to change the nautilus preferences > behaviour > run executables16:49
holsteinjhutchins: cool.. let that user know if they return how you suggest they deal with the hardware16:49
okpilholstein, thank you for your help!16:50
jhutchinsholstein: I think your suggestion of trying different live kernels was good.16:50
apb1963so I installed tomahawk yesterday - awesome program.  Only I couldn't get it to actually play music.  Then I noticed the download page said to use VLC backend... so I did... and was forced to uninstall gstreamer - which is what made it work.  Today, I was trying to fix my default sound device... I was able to do so...  now, everything else sound related works great - except tomahawk.  No sound from it.  I'm perplexed.  Any ideas?16:55
holsteinapb1963: try pavucontrol ..i find you get things playing, then, they typicaly show up in pavucontrol as editable and routable16:56
apb1963holstein: not using pulse16:56
apb1963holstein: alsa only16:56
holsteinapb1963: you can always try in a live CD using pulse16:57
holsteinapb1963: most systems these days expect pulse.. you may find you prefer it..16:57
apb1963holstein: so far, everything I've used either expects alsa or lets me configure it otherwise.16:57
holsteinapb1963: ok16:57
apb1963holstein: I didn't choose to use alsa... it chose me.16:58
holsteinapb1963: you can always ask the maintainers of tomahawk16:58
learnerhey in compiz wall how can i make individual desktops have individual backgrounds and how can make workspaces wrap, so when i go to top if i press ctrl + alt up it goes back to bottom16:58
apb1963holstein: they just use the default sound device17:00
holsteinapb1963: ok17:01
apb1963like I mentioned...  I replaced gstreamer with vlc backend and it just started working.  No muss no fuss..... today... nothing.17:02
JarthUsed Debian but got tired of configuration work, installed Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and can almost cry because it is slow as a slug17:02
A1AidenWhat hardware with Ubuntu 14.04?17:03
holsteinJarth: let us know if you have a support question.. keep in mind, unity and gnome3 require 3d support to run "optimally"... and if you dont have 3d support, they can seem sluggish17:04
Jarthholstein: i know, i installed nvidia drivers but same slow, even with lighdtm starting it's slow17:04
belgianguyHi, when I run full screen Flash movies in Ubuntu, the login screen sometimes appears _below_ it17:04
belgianguymaking the movie continue but makes any control impossible, only option is to Ctrl + Alt + F2 and there killall chrome17:05
Jarthholstein: even with vsync off it's slow, with it's unbearably slow17:05
belgianguyis this a bug worth reporting?17:05
holsteinJarth: its not here, friend.. i would try and isolate what hardware support could be causing your percieved slowness17:06
Jarthbelgianguy: Belgium here too, i don't know what's up with chrome lately crashes on almost every occasion17:06
Jarthholstein: i use linux since release 0.9 , this is NOT perceived slowness17:06
belgianguyJarth: yeah, I'm on the Aura beta, so I expected it to have to do with that17:06
Jarthbelgianguy: what i mostly try is to load the page on which the problem was alone, no other tabs open17:07
belgianguybut then I thought that a "locking" mechanism should get priority over the movie that's playing17:07
Jarthholstein: if you have any suggestions, i'd love to hear them17:07
holsteinJarth: you are percieving it, friend. im not there17:07
Jarthholstein: perception, is deception, this is not deception, something is off17:08
Jarthholstein: should not be17:08
holsteinJarth: try other live CD's.. make a note of kernel versions.. try and apply all upgrades and test.. and, as i suggested, try and isolate hardware support and see what is happening17:08
belgianguyJarth: know Phoronix Test Suite?17:08
belgianguythat lists cold hard numbers17:08
Jarthholstein: 'cmon, fuck it, going back to Debian, this is stupid17:08
holsteinJarth: sure.. dont curse here, or in the debian channels.. thanks17:08
Jarthno way on earth i should run a benchmark suite to solve this17:09
Jarthholstein: what do you do beside ramble idiot remarks ?17:09
belgianguyJarth: just trying to help with the perception issue17:09
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Jarthis this a cult or a support forum ?17:10
holsteinJarth: we'd be glad to assiste you, as volunteers. what graphics drivers have you tried? have you forced the vesa driver? are you up to date with upgrades? how was the live CD support?17:11
belgianguyJarth: we get it, but your anger won't spur other into helping I'm afraid17:11
Jarthholstein: dude, thanks, i've installed the 'current' driver, i've just complete all upgrades, restarted lightm, installed tweak to disable effects, to no avail, this is something bad17:11
belgianguywhat model of card do you have?17:12
Jarththis is an old nvidia card17:12
belgianguycould you be more specific?17:12
Jarthsomething quadro nv 28017:12
holsteinJarth: you can try the vesa driver.. to remove the driver support from the equation..  i would not be expecting unity to run on older proprietary grahpics cards like that17:12
Jarthwait17:13
holsteinJarth: i suggest trying to remove the 3d support from the equation.. if you have not use unity before17:13
Jarthquadro fx 360M it IS supported17:13
Jarthholstein: i enable 3d accel because it was dead slow to start with17:13
holsteinJarth: confirm that you are getting the support you need17:13
Jarthholstein: wot ?17:13
holsteinJarth: enable doesnt mean it works. or works well17:13
Jarthholstein: i'm happy with the attention17:13
Jarthholstein: tell me about that, ever tried to have an old nvidia card run on Debian ?17:14
holsteinJarth: yes17:14
Jarthholstein: don't tell me, runs perfectly ?17:14
holsteinJarth: but, this is the ubuntu channel.. use the #ubuntu-offtopic for chat17:14
Jarthholstein: i'm looking to get ubuntu support for this 14.04 LTS17:14
Aarunifglrx drivers completely wrecked display on 12.04.4 . AMD APU. Help17:14
holsteinJarth: they run as intended.. and, on desktops that dont require 3d, such as xfce, i find it can be a better experience.. have you tried?17:15
Jarthwhy is the addition drivers not detecting my card for example ? i've also seen many crashes of menu's, system menu's etc17:15
belgianguyAaruni: look into ppa-purge17:15
belgianguyand use that to make ubuntu install the old-but-faithful, or go for fglrx-updates17:16
Jarthholstein: sigh, i've worked on blackbox, xfce, any lightweight, but no on this one, i want big fat stuff17:16
Aarunibelgianguy: didn't install from ppa. downloaded drivers from the amd site.17:16
belgianguyAaruni: can you still boot into a GUI?17:16
holsteinJarth: then, try newer hardware.. with older hardware, you will likely need to make compromises.. and you were not using "big fat stuff" on debian, so dont expect magic in ubuntu17:16
Aarunibelgianguy: nope. only to the CLI prompt17:16
belgianguyAaruni: that's ok17:17
Jarthholstein: is this worth trying ? sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates17:17
holsteinJarth: try mirroring your old setup from debian here, and get tha running, then, move on. and you can know, or test if the 3d support is causing your slowness17:17
holstein!ppa | Jarth17:17
ubottuJarth: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge17:17
holsteinJarth: sometimes, i add them.. but, newer code is likely not what you need, since you have older hardware17:17
belgianguyAaruni: what went wrong?17:17
belgianguyrunning a mainline kernel?17:17
Jarthholstein: i did use all that big fat stuff on Debian, until someone started reinventing stuff, my systems never recovered17:18
Aarunibelgianguy: I don't get GUI. linux-kernel-lts-trusty, 3.1317:18
Jarthanyway, time to spend money on a new laptop apparently, sick and tired of this slugg17:18
belgianguyAaruni: let me check what I have17:18
Jarthholstein: thanks for the effort17:18
Aaruniok17:18
n3893I updated some packages and now the unity launcher and panel disapeared. Desktop symbols are shown only. Terminal does not start on ctrl+alt+t. But I have access to the cli via ssh. Any idea what I can do?17:19
holsteinn3893: depends, do you have a lot of ppa's added?17:19
n3893 already purged and reinstalled unity unity2d ubuntu-desktop confix17:20
holsteinn3893: you may just want to keep checking and see if you broke something else ealier17:20
wilee-nileeholstein, Can I PM you?17:21
belgianguyAaruni:  kernel-3.13.0-031300-generic-x86_6417:21
holsteinn3893: i would just run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and address any errors.. and reboot and see if my system is stable or not and go from there17:21
holsteinwilee-nilee: sure.. anytime17:21
Aarunibelgianguy: 3.13.0-2717:21
belgianguyAaruni: could you do 'ls /var/lib/dkms/fglrx/'17:21
JustSighDudesAnyone have a bashrc I can use? I don't want anything complicated just a color scheme. Some stuff is hard to read with the default one I hae now17:21
belgianguyAaruni: on the 'dead' machine17:22
Aarunibelgianguy: not right now, I don't have access to the machine at the moment.17:22
belgianguy14.100                               kernel-3.13.0-24-generic-x86_6417:22
belgianguy14.10.1006                           kernel-3.13.0-27-generic-x86_6417:22
belgianguyAaruni: those I have as well17:22
Aarunibelgianguy: actually, I wouldn't be able to do that. I remember uninstalling the packages after the display died17:23
belgianguyAaruni: just boot into recovery mode, enter network mode (this mounts your HDD for writing)17:23
belgianguyfind the .run file, and try installing it through there17:23
belgianguyodds are real it'll complain about another fglrx already there17:23
belgianguyyou can then run the uninstall script that comes with the fglrx installer17:24
belgianguyand should that not help, you can pass the --force flag to the .run file when you run it17:24
AaruniI think it has something to do with the config files17:24
belgianguythis will overwrite the driver, which usually works quite well here17:24
Aaruniok, I'll do that, and report back, tomorrow.17:25
Aarunithanks, belgianguy17:25
belgianguyAaruni: yeah, at the end I usually runt aticonfig --initial17:25
Aarunibelgianguy: I got something like "unitialised file found... saving backup as..."17:26
Aaruniand then after reboot, the GUI vanished17:26
yasoobHi guys!17:26
clone1110hey yasoob17:26
yasoobI am having a huge problem after updating to trusty tahr17:26
belgianguyAaruni: yeah, that's fglrx that pooped out most likely17:26
clone1110why cant i get TOR to work in ubuntu ?17:27
holstein!tor17:27
ubottuTor is a program to route connections through several servers for anonymity. It is in Ubuntu's repositories, but the Tor Project recommends using their Tor packages due to past issues with Ubuntu's. For setup info, see option (2) of https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en | To use Tor on freenode, see !tor-sasl17:27
yasoobEverytime I try to install python-dev in 14.04 I get this error paste.ubuntu.com/7574465/17:28
yasoobThe same happens for some other programs17:28
yasoobany ideas?17:29
holstein!Info libpython-dev17:30
belgianguyclone1110: download the zip from the TOR website (64 or 32 bit) extract it and run the .sh script17:30
holsteinyasoob: is that what you mean? libpython-dev ?17:30
laRkHey guys.... why should people be encouraged to use linux ?17:30
holsteinyasoob: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libpython-dev17:30
holsteinlaRk: why not? i mean.. they use it if they want.. if it works for them and meets their needs, why not?17:31
laRkholstein,  i need a very good reason17:31
laRklike a professionally stated reason..17:31
clone1110ok17:31
laRki use linux but i can't really think of any good reason why17:32
holsteinlaRk: that will be person to person.. why do i use it? i like it.. it works for me. i prefer the open model.. the software is what i want.. the community aspect is appealing.. i dont prefer an alternative17:32
jack-it's unbeatably supercheap :P17:32
holsteinyasoob: also try python2.7-dev17:32
laRki love python :D17:33
laRkanyways...17:33
holsteinlaRk: use the #ubuntu-offtopic for chat17:34
belgianguywho maintains the firefox Ubuntu ppa?17:34
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holsteinbelgianguy: the ppa should state17:36
holsteinbelgianguy: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam for example17:36
k0nichiwahow do i install clang17:37
xangua!find clang17:37
ubottuFound: clang, clang-3.3, clang-3.3-doc, clang-3.3-examples, clang-3.4, clang-3.4-doc, clang-3.4-examples, clang-3.5, clang-3.5-doc, clang-3.5-examples (and 22 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=clang&searchon=names&suite=trusty&section=all17:37
k0nichiwapkg clang ?17:38
k0nichiwawhat is the command line command17:38
k0nichiwaapt-get wut ?17:38
belgianguyholstein: I just asked the same question on #firefox, and they said Ubuntu :(17:38
holsteink0nichiwa: to install clang?17:38
holsteinbelgianguy: "they" ?17:38
k0nichiwayes, what is the command-line command to ge thte package and install it17:38
Picik0nichiwa: just like any other package: apt-get install clang17:38
belgianguyholstein: the people there17:38
k0nichiwathanks17:38
holsteinbelgianguy: they are likely referring to the included firefox in ubuntu.. the ppa maintainers maintain the ppa you reference..17:38
belgianguyhow can I see which one I have?17:39
zendHi, all :-) I have a problem with PCI-passthrough in qemu. Ubuntu 14.04 LTS x86_64. Motherboard is Supermicro X9SCA-F (supported VT-d, enabled in BIOS), CPU Xeon E3-1275 (supported VT-d). So... When i trying to start VM, i see the error: "error: unsupported configuration: host doesn't support passthrough of host PCI devices"17:39
belgianguyeg where my firefox originated from17:39
k0nichiwaholstein, had a problem.  is there some kind of apt-get update17:40
k0nichiwato update sources etc17:40
k0nichiwaupdate its database17:40
xanguabelgianguy: mozilla releases, ubuntu package it as does any other linux distro17:40
k0nichiwaor picx17:40
k0nichiwaPici, i mean17:41
holsteink0nichiwa: sudo apt-get update17:41
belgianguyxangua: I know, but I submitted a translation some months ago for a string in a Unity right click menu17:41
belgianguyand it's still not in :(17:41
belgianguyso I wonder if I'm on the wrong version, if the translation never made it in17:42
AaronEstradahola17:45
belgianguyxangua: is this deprecated? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Wanted/FirefoxDesktop17:45
trismbelgianguy: judging by bug 1170039 I don't think they have been merged in a while17:51
ubottubug 1170039 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Firefox: Please merge desktop translations" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117003917:51
belgianguytrism: thanks, didn't know that!17:51
yasoobEverytime I try to install python-dev in 14.04 I get this error paste.ubuntu.com/7574465/17:51
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holsteinyasoob: how about just installing python?17:52
yasoobI want to install twisted17:52
Aaruni!info twisted17:52
ubottuPackage twisted does not exist in trusty17:52
k0nichiwawhat does it mean when a package ends in dev ?17:52
k0nichiwalike libopenblas-dev ?17:52
holsteinyasoob: the link you give states "python-dev" is what you are installing.. stop doing that.. try "python" or "libpython-dev" or "python2.7-dev"17:53
k0nichiwadoes it mean it's FOR development, or its a developement version of the package, i.e. could be buggy ?17:53
Piciyasoob: install python2.7-dev or python3.4-dev17:53
Picik0nichiwa: FOR development17:53
k0nichiwaic thanks17:53
yasoobholstein: here is the backlog while installing twisted http://paste.ubuntu.com/7574584/17:53
gabrielaHOLAA17:53
Stinky-Feetk0nichiwa: It means it is for development against the APIs in that package. Typically you will need it when compiling something from source that is depending on the libs in that package.17:54
holstein!info python-twisted17:54
ubottupython-twisted (source: twisted): Event-based framework for internet applications (dependency package). In component main, is extra. Version 13.2.0-1ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 3 kB, installed size 53 kB17:54
holsteinyasoob: ^ why not that?17:55
yasoobholstein: I get the following errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7574598/17:57
__raven14.04 extreme network problems with wired and wireless nic. connection crashes, extremely slow connections, no dns - whats that and how to solve17:57
Stinky-Feetbelgianguy: In answer to your earlier question, you should be able to see where a package comes from (if you have added PPAs, etc.) by apt-cache policy packagename. If you have compiled it yourself and just put it somewhere in the path and created your own starter, it will say it is not installed.17:57
holstein!info python-twisted17:58
ubottupython-twisted (source: twisted): Event-based framework for internet applications (dependency package). In component main, is extra. Version 13.2.0-1ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 3 kB, installed size 53 kB17:58
belgianguyStinky-Feet: ah, very interesting tidbit there! Thanks!17:58
holsteinyasoob: why do you not have access to that package? are you on ubuntu 14.04?17:58
yasoobholstein: yup17:59
yasoobI am on ubuntu 14.0417:59
holsteinyasoob: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install python-twisted17:59
gabrielaHOLA YASOOD18:00
Pici!es | gabriela18:00
ubottugabriela: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.18:00
yasoobgabriela: Hi18:00
yasoobgabriela: btw it is yasoob18:01
io__how a nondeveloper can find a job in IT field?18:01
Pici!ot | io__18:01
ubottuio__: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!18:01
holsteinyasoob: im in ubuntu 14.04 and just issued that command without errors18:02
io__ok ubottu18:02
gabrielaGRASIAS YASOOD18:02
k0nichiwaa hint as to how i install the standard libraries for clang ?18:03
k0nichiwaim getting <iostream> not found18:03
yasoobhostein: Here are the errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7574640/18:04
holsteink0nichiwa: use a package manager, and dependencies will be solved18:04
holsteink0nichiwa: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install clang18:04
yasoobhostein: any ideas what to do?18:04
k0nichiwaholstein i did that18:05
k0nichiwaim on clang version 3.218:05
holsteink0nichiwa: ok.. then, share errors..18:05
holsteink0nichiwa: if you are "on clang", then whats the question?18:05
holsteinyasoob: address the failing entries. the repos that are not hitting18:05
yasoobhostein: how? :/18:06
k0nichiwaclang -stdlib=libc++ -std=c++11 -lc++ test.cc i get fatal error: 'iostream' file not found18:06
k0nichiwaso im thinking i have to install standard libraries with an additoinal apt-get18:07
belgianguyk0nichiwa: http://askubuntu.com/questions/471477/unmet-dependencies-libc18:07
belgianguycould that be something related?18:08
k0nichiwai dont know i think ill try it18:09
belgianguyk0nichiwa: also, in that thread they say the lib is called libc++1 and not libc++18:09
k0nichiwaits an amazon ec2 instance (micro) i sont care if i screw it up18:09
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gabrielaHOLA ES CON MI GO18:10
CREEEPEREXPLOSIVsi18:10
gabriela ABLO ESPAÑOL18:10
Pici!es | gabriela CREEEPEREXPLOSIV18:10
ubottugabriela CREEEPEREXPLOSIV: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.18:10
gabrielaCOMO ESTAS18:10
k0nichiwasudo apt-get install libc++-dev fixed it thanks18:10
CREEEPEREXPLOSIVvien18:10
k0nichiwabelgianguy,18:11
k0nichiwai would have thought calng woudl wcome with its standard libs automatically18:11
PiciCREEEPEREXPLOSIV, gabriela: Please use private message or join #ubuntu-es.   #ubuntu is english only.18:11
k0nichiwaafter all they're called standard for a reason18:11
k0nichiwaits not c++ unless it has its std libs18:11
belgianguyk0nichiwa: true, you have a good point18:12
belgianguyI don't know why that is the way it is18:12
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robynata:-!18:13
CREEEPEREXPLOSIVgabrielaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ¿¿¿¿¿18:13
belgianguysigh18:13
Picioops18:13
daftykinsi guess she left him18:14
yasoobholstein: any idea about my problem?18:14
holsteinyasoob: yes.. as i said, deal with the errors in your apt-get update output.. you have sources that are failing.. confirm them, and try and replace them, or wait til they come back18:16
tigefabest with LVM or not fot desktop??18:17
CREEEPEREXPLOSIVgabrielllllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡?????????????????????????????18:17
tigefafor desktop ;)18:17
gabrielaQUEEEEEEEEEEEEE18:17
jhutchinstigefa: I think lvm adds more things to go wrong and gets in the way more than it helps, but that's just me.18:19
yasoobholstein: So I just changed pk to gb.....And they are working. I guess the pk sources are down.18:20
yasoobyup I was right. The ping is also failing on pk sources18:21
tigefajhutchins: can I switch from LVM to with out??18:23
gingitsuneHi there. Running 14.04 and when i boot into the system all the system icons are missing18:24
gingitsuneI mean the window manager is broken18:24
gingitsuneThe desktop seems to be working fine18:24
xeno_Please can someone tell me a canonical reference for creating self-signed certs for apache?  I found one, but it's not from ubuntu nor Debian.18:25
__raven14.04 extreme network problems with wired and wireless nic. connection crashes, extremely slow connections, no dns - whats that and how to solve18:25
tigefaxeni_: search it on digitalocean.org org help.ubuntu.org/Community18:26
luca1ciao18:26
bekksxeno_: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/certificates-and-security.html18:26
xeno_Thank you.18:26
Aaruni!ops|clone111018:27
ubottuclone1110: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, rww, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!18:27
PiciAaruni: ?18:28
AaruniPici: unwanted PMs18:28
Aaruni<clone1110> so will u call me18:28
AaruniPici: ^18:28
wwalkerif I "apt-get install g++-dev" it lines up 959 packages to install  (which I'm good with) but it wants to remove rsyslog and ubuntu-minimal.  How do I get apt-get to tell me why it is going to remove a package?18:29
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urdawwalker: that's a ton of packages...18:29
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mkovarik959 packages? What the?18:29
urdamkovarik: yeah something's not right18:29
tigefawwalker: try this apt-get install --no-install-recomendens g++-dev18:30
holsteinif this is an ubuntu mini iso install, and there is not much installed, then, thats plausible18:30
urdawwalker: sudo apt-get install build-essential18:30
urdawwalker: should cover it18:30
jhutchinstigefa: The only way I know is to create a new partition without LVM and transfer the data, either way.18:30
wwalkerurda, I've already done build-essential.18:31
trismwwalker: yeah g++-dev seems to be trying to install every package that contains 'g-dev' judging by apt-cache show g++-dev; that's probably not what you want18:31
wwalkerwhich should be named bare-minimum-build-tools.  great to build a kernel, but not much else.18:31
wwalkerThe question still stands.  How do I get apt-get to tell me why it is wanting to remove a package?18:32
holsteinwwalker: to solve dependencies.. but, ubuntu-minimal is just a meta-package AFAIK18:33
mkovarikUbuntu-mini is a meta package. The reason it is removed is because rsyslog, one of its dependencies is removed.18:33
user123321How to check which COM port my Dongle/Android phone is connected to?18:34
Jordan_Uuser123321: What makes you think that your Dongle/Android is exposing a serial interface?18:35
wwalkerSo still, how to get apt-get to say why it wants to remove rsyslog18:35
tigefajhutchins: OK.18:35
user123321Jordan_U, In Windows, I could find, so I was wrong about it in Ubuntu?18:35
jhutchinsuser123321: USB?18:35
clone1110Aaruni:http://bit.ly/1oojsRJ18:35
user123321jhutchins, Yep18:35
trismwwalker: you can use -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true but it can be difficult to wade through18:35
Jordan_Uuser123321: What is your end goal?18:36
clone1110Aaruni:http://bit.ly/1oojsRJ18:36
jhutchinsuser123321: Then if there's a serial interface it will most likely be /dev/ttyUSB018:36
wwalkertrism: thank you.  me, vim and grep will give it a whirl... :-)18:36
user123321Jordan_U, Sending SMS through a C++ app.18:36
clone1110Aaruni:http://bit.ly/1oojsRJ18:36
user123321jhutchins, I see.18:36
clone1110 <Aaruni> http://bit.ly/1oojsRJ18:36
jhutchinsuser123321: They usually connect as USB storage devices unless they're in tethering mode.18:36
user123321Do I need to enable USB tethering in my phone?18:36
user123321jhutchins, Ah :D18:37
clone1110<Aaruni> http://bit.ly/1oojsRJ18:37
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user123321"dmesg | grep tty" still doesn't show me /dev/ttyUSB0 :(18:38
jhutchinsuser123321: How you set up tethering varies among phones and among carriers18:38
user123321jhutchins, Just enabled it.18:38
jhutchinsuser123321: lsusb?18:38
user123321Here's my output: [    0.000000] console [tty0] enabled18:39
user123321[    2.163525] tty tty23: hash matches18:39
m477hi, I am moving from 12.04 to 14.04 which files should I backup to save "system sesion"? just whole /home is enough?18:40
jhutchinsuser123321: The tail of dmesg right after you connect the device might be useful.18:40
user123321jhutchins, Ok, let me check.18:40
wwalkertrism: Thanks!  Another good tool/tweak.  the g++-dev thing matched syslog-ng-core which of course conflicts with rsyslog.18:41
user123321jhutchins, identical :/18:41
holsteinuser123321: depending on your phone and carrier, you may not be allowed to tether18:42
Jordan_Um477: What do you mean by "system sesion"?18:42
holsteinuser123321: i used to use easytether, which had a lite version that you can try, and see if your device is functioning as expected18:42
user123321jhutchins, holstein  In network, I get additional "wired" when I start to tether.18:42
holsteinuser123321: you wont get it from there, AFAIK18:42
holsteinuser123321: that can be blocked18:42
jhutchinsuser123321: Ah, that's convenient.18:42
m477Jordan_U: configurations of aplications18:43
holsteinm477: the user /home contains those configs18:43
m477Jordan_U: I am going to format whole disk and I am thinking what should I copy18:43
wwalkerSo on the "I don't want to apt-get individual libraries and -dev packages 'as needed'" front: Is ther an equivalent to fedora's "yum groupinstall Development\ Libraries"18:43
jhutchinsm477: That should mostly be preserved/imported if you do a scripted upgrade.18:43
wwalkerIt doesn't install the minimal set, but rather a set that cover 98% (libxml, png, xslt, zlib, ... )18:43
user123321So now I can see hardware address, IP address etc.18:43
jhutchinsm477: Ah, well, formatting would take care of that.18:44
user123321But how to see COM port, I need that for sending SMS right?18:44
wwalkerdisk space is cheap, so I'd rather install most of my tools and libraries in one fell swoop.18:44
cortexmanhow do I disable the Alt key from opening the "Type your command" dialog?18:44
jhutchinsuser123321: You don't have a com port.18:45
cortexmanit is interfering with emacs18:45
user123321jhutchins, Aha.18:45
jhutchinsuser123321: Im not sure what you've done with windows, but what you have now is a network connction over the phone.18:45
user123321jhutchins, My apologies, in Windows, I could see COM port in my dongle, I didn't try with phone.18:46
mexi_d3wwalker: I'm not sure what you want. Does `tasksel` do it?18:46
jhutchinsuser123321: I have not heard of a phone presenting as a com port.18:46
m477holstein: but that includes also hidden  files, and I am not sure if I suppose to copy every .<file> or just this important like .mozzila .bashrc?18:47
holsteinuser123321: or offereing SMS pass through like that18:47
jhutchinsm477: rsync18:47
holsteinm477: you confirm that you have what you want18:47
user123321jhutchins, Ah ok.18:47
user123321holstein, It worked through Dongle though.18:47
user123321:/18:47
holsteinuser123321: not likely.. not in linux18:47
m477thx18:48
holsteinuser123321: this is *not* a dongle, correct?18:48
user123321holstein, So it wouldn't still work with a dongle even?18:48
jhutchinsuser123321: Well, "dongle" defines a pretty broad spectrum of possible hardware.18:49
holsteinuser123321: you'd have to ask the creators of the applications and hardware you are using.. nothing about linux or ubuntu will prevent that.. but the phone carriers routinely do block18:49
k0nichiwai did sudo apt-get install clang why do i only have version 3.2 ?18:49
wwalkermexi_d3: thank you.  That's the right concept but there isn't a "developer" selection.  I do a lot of dev at 30K ft, so I want to download and install everything I might use and even quite a bit that I might not use, now while I have a net connection :-)18:49
jhutchinsuser123321: There are ways to send SMS from a PC, but it's not common and usually involves proprietary software & hardware.18:49
k0nichiwaclang is up to version 3.4 or something now18:49
OerHeks!info clang18:49
ubottuclang (source: llvm-defaults (0.21ubuntu1)): C, C++ and Objective-C compiler (LLVM based). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:3.4-0ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 2 kB, installed size 27 kB18:49
holsteink0nichiwa: ubuntu is not a rolling release18:49
cortexmanhow do I disable the Alt key from activating the launcher18:49
k0nichiwawhat is that supposed to tell me ?18:50
user123321I see.18:50
OerHeksk0nichiwa, what ubuntu are you on? not 14.04 i guess18:50
k0nichiwawhy do i have version 3.2 instead of someting more recent18:50
user123321Thanks people, I'd check about this.18:50
k0nichiwav18:50
k0nichiwaDescription:Ubuntu 13.1018:50
wwalkerand bison and yacc and lex aren't installed as part of build-essenmtials (and git, and hg, and svn and .....) I just don't like having to do an apt-get install every 3 minutes for days...18:51
holsteink0nichiwa: ubuntu is not a rolling release, so you get the version ubuntu had when it was released, and security updates.. you are not promised newer verisons, only maintenance to the versions you have18:52
jhutchinswwalker: Every developer uses a different set of tools - you wouldn't want to have only one option chosen by someone else.18:52
holsteink0nichiwa: if you want newer packages, you add a PPA, install manually, or update to the most recent version of ubuntu18:52
OerHeksk0nichiwa, you might want to considder upgrade.18:53
jhutchinswwalker: Once you get the build environment you want, you might want to do a clone or preseed to record what you actually use.18:54
jhutchinswwalker: Considering that if you were on that other OS, you'd be having to go out and buy each thing you discovered you needed...18:54
k0nichiwaanyone seen "fatal error: 'cstdlib' file not found" compling c++ code w/clang ? i have version 3.4 now18:55
amacgregorHas anyone seen slow dns lookups on ubuntu 14.04 LTS server?18:56
amacgregorI'm having weird problems where the lookup is taking a lot of time18:56
jhutchinsk0nichiwa: Either cstdlib is not installed or your makefile can't find it.  That kind of error happens all the time when you're compiling code unless you know all of the dependencies in advance.18:56
k0nichiwai can't figure out which package woudl provide cstdlib18:57
k0nichiwai did locate cstdlib and nothing18:57
jhutchinsk0nichiwa: apt-file might find it.18:58
k0nichiwajhutchins, normally not with a standard library lice <cstdlib>18:58
holsteink0nichiwa: where did you get clang 3.4? ppa?18:58
OerHeks!find cstdlib18:58
ubottuFile cstdlib found in emscripten, gcc-arm-linux-androideabi, gcc-i686-linux-android, gcc-snapshot, gccxml, libboost1.54-dev, libboost1.55-dev, libc++-dev, libc++-test, libinsighttoolkit3-dev (and 15 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=cstdlib&mode=&suite=trusty&arch=any18:58
jhutchins...or that.18:59
mg__14.04 unity is unusable with nvidia atm18:59
wwalkerjhutchins: no, on fedroa I run "yum groupinstall "Development Tools" "Development Libraries" and in install about 200 tools and about 70 libraries and I can build most anything I need to without installing more.19:00
mexi_d3wwalker: I don't understand your workflow. What are you developing and what do you need for it?19:00
wwalkerI'm a devops guy, I have to support node devs, ruby devs, python devs, etc.  So I need to be able to buile all kinds of things off the net (nokogiri for ruby, the mysql driver for python, etc).19:01
Jordan_Uwwalker: I don't think there is an equivalent pre-made list available. You could look at Fedora's list and try to duplicate it, or you could "sudo apt-get build-dep" some representitive packages to try to get a good set.19:01
wwalkerthey all are based on a small core of libraries (curl, zlib,  etc...19:01
vilambitwhat problems are you seeing?19:02
vilambitmg__: what problems are you seeing?19:02
vilambitmg__: for my x/nvidia driver crashes randomly :(19:02
Jordan_Uwwalker: You could also just keep a mirror of all of main (or main universe and multiverse if you're ambitious) on your machine, so that you could install things as needed in the sky.19:03
wwalkerJordan_U: thank you.  I've actually just made the list from Fedora and am trying to turn that into ubuntu pkg names (most are the same) :-)  I'll look into build-dep to improve my list!19:03
wwalkerJordan_U: I assume thatat's 50 GB or more?19:03
rp123how do you disable upstart jobs from boottime?19:06
wwalkerI went the SSD route so don't have quite that much space free, but maybe I'll do that on an external drive.19:06
LucidGuyRunning Kubuntu12.04 .. thinking of installing ubuntu-desktop.. what are the chances I'm going to ruin my KDE desktop environment?19:07
phunyguyLucidGuy, the chances are higher of ruining Unity, as KDE messes with the GTK theme quite a bit19:07
phunyguyLucidGuy, when I moved from KDE to xfce-desktop, my XFCE ended up with the oxygen theme.19:08
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mg__LucidGuy, add a new user and use unity with the new user profile is what i would do19:09
Paul92hello. I have an ubuntu machine with a messed up video driver and autologin enabled. basically, when it boots up it's blank. Is there any way to get a tty?19:10
ars23hi guys...19:10
Jordan_UPaul92: Try ctrl+alt+F1 as a start.19:11
Paul92Jordan_U: nope, not working. There is a flicker of some weird characters and blank again19:11
fdemmer... so i was trying to read up on the new "swift" thing from apple... and they have a free book on itunes19:11
fdemmeris there a better way than wine+itunes for windows on ubuntu?19:12
mtuhello. i am experiencing a LUKS FDE nightmare with several volumes rejected. my boot passphrase is definitely correct, but is refused. i'm getting paranoid. are there known issues with LUKS?19:12
sigint88mtu:  good reason to be paranoid. but i havent seen any issue in the community19:12
fdemmerpaul92: ssh into the machine?19:13
ars23Paul92: try to open the terminal and maybe disable auto login and use another desktop environment...19:13
Bashing-omPaul92: Might be able to boot to a terminal by altering the boot parameters in grub.19:14
sigint88mtu:  im new to LUKS so I would check with someone else19:14
Paul92fdemmer: ssh is disabled. is there any way to enable it in this state?19:14
Jordan_Umtu: Does your password use any non-ascii characters? Do you possibly have an odd keyboard layout such that you may be hitting the "right" keys, but still be entering the wrong password?19:14
xvzfinstalled ubuntu 14.04 as a vm, cannot ssh into it, what is the standard firewall on it and how can I enable the ssh port?19:15
Picixvzf: did you install ssh?19:15
mexi_d3xvzf:Did you install SSH server?19:15
Paul92Bashing-om: nice idea. do you know exactly what should I modify?19:15
fdemmerpaul92: hm... boot from usb, mount root partition, edit configuration to enable ssh should work19:15
xvzfPici, mexi_d3 you are right19:16
fdemmerpaul92: also try ctrl+alt+f2 ...3...4 if 1 did not work... wait a bit switch to terminal might be slow19:16
amacgregorhas anyone seen issues with slow hostname lookup on ubuntu19:17
amacgregor?19:17
Bashing-omPaul92: Try: cold boot to grub boot menu, 'e' key for edit mode, next screen arrow down and across to "quiet splash" and replace these terms with 'text' - no quotes - and key combo ctl+x to continue the boot process to TTY1 .19:17
mtuJordan_U: dead key behaviour suggests that my boot line uses the correct layout. but i also tried to mimick en_US without success.19:17
mtupreparing live CD now19:17
Paul92Bashing-om: nice. i'll give it a try. thanks19:18
Sally_gIs anyone using Owncloud?19:19
sudormrfhey guys.  I setup BIND and isc-dchp-server this weekend on a VM.  I have now set that VM and a client VM to host only and powered them on.  the client VM is getting the correct search domain but it is not receiving the correct nameserver.  Would this be something that would be in the configuration of BIND somewhere?19:19
sudormrfor dhcpd?19:19
stercorAnyone know of a fix for: "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"?19:22
sudormrfbrb19:22
Jordan_Ustercor: What are you trying to install?19:22
Picistercor: have you installed the build-essential metapackage?19:22
xvzfPici, mexi_d3 installed sshd now I can ssh into the vm, thanks19:24
Piciyay19:24
stercorPici: build-essential fixed this problem...19:24
Piciyay219:24
briceI have a laptop with a broken hard disk and and have ubuntu on a flash drive im using to boot the laptop in a graphical state but want to be able to boot directly to it any help19:24
mexi_d3stercor: config.log or configure.log19:25
fartmasterhello19:25
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tozenfartmaster: hi! wazzap?19:25
fartmastertrying to get through this Monday19:26
briceanybody in here actually have ubuntu and would like to offer some advice19:26
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brice?19:26
tozen14.10 dev branch19:26
brice?19:27
Bashing-ombrice: " with a broken hard disk" what makes you think you can boot it ? .. what is the nature of the problem booting the hard disk ?19:27
oitbhello people, I have a disaster! my 7-year old work, my entire private data are locked behind a luks-encrypted external partition. I am short of doing something bad to myself. please tell me there is a hope!!!19:27
Jordan_Uoitb: Why can't you unlock the LUKS partition?19:27
oitbJordan_U, due to a second of confusion, I dont have the password anymore.19:28
Jordan_Uoitb: Did you backup the unencrypted LUKS key at any point?19:28
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oitbJordan_U, it is the backup disk that I cant access19:29
STEVOOOOhowdy folks19:29
Bashing-ombrice: From the liveDVD we can always look at what is in that hard drive. ( and recover what you can ) .19:29
STEVOOOOJust installed ubuntu on my new ssd :) Never used ubuntu before, so i probably need some help :p19:29
Jordan_Uoitb: Did you lose the password, or did you recently change the password to something you no longer remember?19:30
bricebashing-om im not trying to boot from the hard disk thats impossible its broken, im trying to boot ubuntu directly from my flash/drive to ubuntu19:30
STEVOOOODO i need to install motherboard drivers, sound drivers, graphic card drivers etc?19:30
fartmasterSTEVOOOO: nice work STEVOOOO19:30
Bashing-omSTEVOOOO: Welcome ! Help is what we do .19:30
bricebecause im using the part you try without installing19:30
STEVOOOOI've been stuck with windows to long, i thought it was time for a change :)19:31
Jordan_USTEVOOOO: The only thing you should maybe need to install is graphics drivers, and if you have an Intel GPU then you already have the best GPU drivers available by default.19:31
Bashing-ombrice: In other words, there is no boot loader installed omto the USB drive ?19:31
oitbJordan_U I am not even sure if I had it saved on any other hard drive. even if I did, it must be for a short duration, and I used "wipe" and "dd to erase file and disks afterwards.19:31
oitbJordan_U, yes, I lost the password. in an extremely dumb moment19:31
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Jordan_Uoitb: Then unfortunately unless you can remember your password, the data is gone :(19:32
CooLBALLhow do  i get my native res with my AMD radeon hd 6450?19:33
bricei mean i can use it its just a lengthy process, i rather be able to boot dircetly if it was using the flash as sorta like a hard disk19:33
STEVOOOOJordan_U, i have ATI Radeon 6870 HD19:33
Jordan_Ubrice: You can install Ubuntu to an external drive the same way you would to an internal.19:33
oitbJordan_U, is there really no way? if I pay to businesses who recover data? or a top-notch computer scientist?19:34
bricejordon_u yeah thats where im trying to get at19:34
pavlosoitb, http://alvinabad.wordpress.com/2012/09/22/how-to-recover-a-luks-encrypted-disk/19:34
Bashing-ombrice: You mean something like enableing "persistence" on the flash drive ? ( menaing that you can boot the flash drive ) ?19:34
bricelike i got it to boot from the flash its just a lengthy process19:34
Bashing-ommeaning*19:34
oitbpavlos, I want to believe that it is true19:35
Jordan_Uoitb: If you know some people high up in the NSA they might know an exploit in the encryption scheme, but beyond that, no. That's the point of encryption :(19:35
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bricebut the only option i get is install to hard disk which is broken19:35
Jordan_Uoitb: If you have a general idea of what the password contained, certain words or types of words, symbols like "$!" but no numbers, numbers but no symbols, you might be able to use that to make brute forcing the password take less time.19:36
JarthAnyone here familiar with using an Nvidia Quadro FX 360M on a dell m4300 precision ?19:36
OerHekspavlos, yeah "Step 4. Unlock the encrypted partition using the cryptsetup command. You will need the passphrase of the encrypted disk. "19:36
Jarthit is DEADSLOW, with any driver, even with recovered xorg.conf that worked fast19:37
Bashing-ombrice: The easiest solution that I know of to install ubuntu onto an external is to use a DVD as that install medium.19:37
pavlosOerHeks, I just saw that. I was trying to help ...19:37
briceBashing-om thats a good idea thanks19:37
oitbJordan_U, it contained everything, and it contained some 40-43 characters. I was paranoid about security. how long would such a thing take to brute force and break?19:38
OerHeks40-43 years19:38
CooLBALLhow do i get my native res on my amd radeon hd 6450?19:38
Bashing-ombrice: My experience is limited, but the DVD will work, once with a liveDVD -> sudo fdisk -lu <- to KNOW the external disk nomenclature to properly point the installer.19:39
STEVOOOOhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver, says i dont need to install anything.. Or do i misinterpret?19:40
STEVOOOOI have ATI radeon HD 687019:40
oitbthank you, OerHeks. you gave me the final word.19:40
orobiancolist19:41
orobianco?list19:41
Bashing-ombrice: Mihgt help -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent , http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1958073 ; How to make USB drives.19:41
OerHeksoitb, really, try to remember the pass, if you didn't pick random characters19:41
wilee-nileeSTEVOOOO, It depends on your use, gamers may want a more usable driver, but with that comes the install. If it is working fine now just see how that goes.19:41
oitbOerHeks, it was purely random19:42
STEVOOOOokay wilee-nilee okay:)19:42
oitb7 years' work. all your life's things that has to do with data. I'd better die19:42
wilee-nileeSTEVOOOO, The open source is what would be installed if working now, generally the preferred driver by some, and best for support here.19:42
jvarcaba_Hey everyone ! How to deal with : "Your Firefox profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible.", tried reinstall, fix file permissons and deleting profiles folder.19:42
STEVOOOOIm trying to get my second screen running aswell, this is probably easy... but i cant seem to find where i activate it :P19:42
wilee-nileejvarcaba_, YOu can do a FF reset from it.19:43
Bashing-omSTEVOOOO: For info, I run ATI graphics card - no gammer - I perfer the open source driver 'radeon' .19:43
wilee-nileejvarcaba_, A reinstall only works with a full purge, including the config in .config19:44
jvarcaba_wilee-nilee, Did it purge, where the config file sits ?19:44
STEVOOOOBashing-om, nice! Well, i'm mostly a programmer but also some gaming. And CAD.. but that i probably need to run on a windows machine19:44
Jordan_USTEVOOOO: Search for "Displays" in Unity's search area to get to the display preferences.19:44
wilee-nileejvarcaba_, I don't know what you did, how would I know. ;)19:45
jvarcaba_wilee-nilee, You said , I must do a purge , how to do it including config file ?19:45
wilee-nileejvarcaba_, I would not myself touch the areas you did honestly, FF has a built in new user option and reset19:45
Bashing-omSTEVOOOO: Maybe, as there is some limited support for CAD in ubuntu, check the repository -> apt-cache search cad <-.19:46
oitbJordan_U, my last tiny hope could have been that the keyring folder which was saved once earlier might be in one of the other hard drives. but I first wiped the keyring files, and the drives have been erased by "dd". in this case does it make sense to use "testdisk"? though I know the obvious answer19:46
italobluolimpo19:46
italoblulist19:47
Jordan_Uoitb: No chance, the keyring is gone :(19:47
reenoHi I use Ubuntu 12-04 on a system with two numa nodes but only one is availbe for use. The other are not disabled but cannot be used19:47
wilee-nileejvarcaba_, sudo apt-get purge firefox  I was mistaken there is no config in .config19:47
STEVOOOOJordan_U, there's no "Displays" only Monitors19:47
Jordan_USTEVOOOO: That's it then :) I'm using a different version of Ubuntu at the moment, so I can't check exact names for things.19:48
fartmasterme19:48
STEVOOOOokay Jordan_U , got this message then: It appears that your graphics driver does not support the necessary extensions to use this tool.  Do you want to use your graphics driver vendor's tool instead?19:49
oitbJordan_U, I was just given this link by one of the users here, can it make sense for me? http://alvinabad.wordpress.com/2012/09/22/how-to-recover-a-luks-encrypted-disk/19:49
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* fartmaster needs coffee19:51
niven_test19:52
wilee-nileejvarcaba_, Might be helpful to know that once you get FF all set up you can just copy and paste the .mozilla file somewhere else and use it as a backup, all you have to do is delete the broken, and pop that one back in.19:52
CooLBALLmy native res is 1920x1080 and what do i do to get it?19:53
niven_Why is it that if I try to create a file in /usr/bin/ I am told I don't have permission, but if I run an executable to setup up and install a program, (even though I am not doing it as sudo or asked for admin password) the progam can create a file in /usr/bin?19:54
wilee-nileeniven_, /user/bin is root19:54
niven_wilee-nilee: Yeah, but the setup/install script I ran put a file there and I ran it.  I was not asked for a passwd.19:55
CooLBALLhep me hep me19:55
wilee-nileeniven_, What example do you have that puts something in /user/bin without a password used on install.19:55
wilee-nilee!patience | CooLBALL19:56
ubottuCooLBALL: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/19:56
ruka_boa tarde19:56
wilee-nileeCooLBALL, This is free volunteer help.19:56
niven_I downloaded a tar file for truecrypt.  I extracted it.  It extracts as a executable.  I run it.  It installs truecrypt.  I was never asked for a passwd.  It installs stuff in areas owned by root.19:56
niven_How can I run that and it does stuff only root can do?19:57
Piciniven_: did use you sudo?19:57
wilee-nileeniven_, which truecrpyt the latest is not advised?19:57
ratherDashingCooLBALL: what version of ubuntu? did you try right clicking on the desktop and seeing what menu you get?19:57
lucidoI have libgtk installed and yet: ./25Assist: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory19:57
ratherDashingniven_: then you must be installing as root19:57
ratherDashingor "sudo" installing it19:57
lucidowhy is that?19:58
niven_ratherDashing: I using it on a live lubuntu, I'm running the script as the live user, does this matter?19:58
wilee-nileeratherDashing, Not true truecypt does this19:58
ratherDashingtrucrypt somehow installs as root from a user account? then i would like to see how it does that because that just blows away the security model19:58
wilee-nileeniven_, Do not use any truecrypt past 7.119:59
niven_I'm using Truecrypt 7.1a19:59
wilee-nileecool19:59
oitb pavlos, in the link about luks decryption, 4th step says "If you don’t know the password or you forgot, then you’re out of luck. Unless you can guess the password or do a brute force password guessing, no current technology or witchcraft on earth can help you unlock the encryption"19:59
wilee-nileeratherDashing, You have to use a password to open it, than is when it is used.19:59
niven_ratherDashing: I'm installing it from the live user in the live enviroment, but never asked for root and it copies all the files over.  Usually I am asked for root for that stuff.19:59
ratherDashingniven_: if it is doing that then whatever "user" you are running it as has read/write permissions to the directory it copies its files to20:00
niven_wilee-nilee: What has happened to Truecrypt, why can't it be used now past 7.1?20:01
wilee-nileeniven_, There has been a website change, and all over the web is info on this, and a #truecrypt channel20:01
wilee-nileenot can't it is just not advised at this time.20:02
mark55656Hi, I'm trying to build lanoverip from source, but it doesn't come with a ./configure. Anyone know what I'm missing?20:02
Picimark55656: check the README or INSTALL file.20:02
mark55656I did, but it's roughly translated French and the commands don't seem to do much.20:02
mark55656If I pastebin it, would you mind taking a look?20:02
user123321I get "No bluetooth adaptors found", any advice?20:03
mark55656http://pastebin.com/npGUNFVw20:03
ratherDashinguser123321: lspci  <-- does that list a bluetooth adaptor?20:04
s2013i use ubuntu on vmware player.. couple of qs. a) how do i do multi monitor display? b) how can i increase my hd size?20:04
lucidoratherDashing, lsusb?20:04
ratherDashinglucido: matters how it's plugged in! :)20:04
ratherDashinglucido: laptops would list it on lspci me thinks20:05
ratherDashingor desktops with it built-in20:05
OerHeksmark55656, line #65 and on ..20:05
lucidoratherDashing, usually they are on a combo minipcie card where the wifi is attached to the cards pcie signalling and the bt is on the usb20:06
ratherDashinguser123321: lsusb <-- what does that say? :)20:06
ratherDashinglucido: yeah i'm a server linux guy so never used bluetooth and ubuntu before20:06
user123321ratherDashing, That gave me a lot, umm, I think I was able to find only "wireless"20:07
user123321Wireless Network Adapter20:07
lucidouser123321, try lsusb20:07
mark55656OerHeks. I'm aware, but the commands do nothing and I'm not sure why. http://pastebin.com/fNAJmUTh20:07
ratherDashinguser123321: grep it for Bluetooth maybe?20:07
user123321lsusb20:08
user123321oops.20:08
ratherDashingha20:08
mark55656That's why I need help.20:08
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user123321ratherDashing, Nope :|20:08
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perhapstiredIs Ubuntu supposed to create the Private folder on its own when we create a wrapped-passphrase, or is the fact there is only a hidden Private folder a sign that I haven't done the encryption correctly?20:11
ratherDashinguser123321: whats yer bt adapter? did you glance at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup20:12
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perhapstiredAnyone? Am I supposed to mount the Private directory? Or create it?20:15
pbuckley_Does anyone have a link handy for adding custom pxe images to maas?20:15
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lucidouser123321, what are you trying to do?20:16
wilee-nileeperhapstired, Encryption is a good way to loose your stuff so have a scenario that avoids that. Personally I only encrypt one thing, passwords.20:19
jhutchinsmark55656: The problem is there's no quality control on tarballs.  The people that made that are the only people who can really help.20:21
mark55656jhutchins. No problem, thanks for the help.20:22
user123321ratherDashing, lucido I just saw driver download for my laptop for bluetooth (It's Windows), "Ralink/Motorola Bluetooth", so I assume it might be the adapter name. If it gets urgent, I'll follow the instructions  @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup20:22
jhutchinsmark55656: Did you verify the tarball when you downloaded it?  It could be truncated.20:22
user123321Thanks.20:22
mark55656jhutchins. Yep, tar is verified.20:23
jhutchinsuser123321: lspci -nn might show you the adapter, or an unrecognized device.20:23
mark55656Basically, I wanted a way to easily play some older lan games with friends. On windows I used Evolve but I was looking for a solution with less bloat.20:23
llutzuser123321: does "hciconfig" give any output?20:23
sudormrfok.  so something has to be messed up in my configs because now the client isn't getting the proper search domain or nameserver.  anyone around that can help out with dhcpd and bind9?20:24
user123321llutz, nope.20:24
user123321jhutchins, the list is huge, let me check :D20:24
oitbJordan_U, it's me back. this thought of hope  occured to me: I basically only need my keyring files. I have the password to open those files. because this is a uniquely critical situation, would it maybe be possible to get a copy of them from ubuntu servers?20:25
perhapstiredwilee-nilee: thanks for the input, indeed one has to be very careful when messing around with encryption. However I'm determined to, and for some typically ubuntuish linuxish reason I now have a .private directory full of incoherent stuff and can't even create a visible private directory- which is supposed to be the folder we can use as encrypted by ecryptfs.20:25
Jordan_Uoitb: Why would Ubuntu's servers have your keyring files?20:26
wilee-nileeperhapstired, I suspect is a matter of you understanding overall, I would not externalize the blame to the OS, many use this with no problems, it does take some skill sets.20:27
user123321jhutchins, I don't think I found anything related to bluetooth or unrecognized.20:28
sudormrfit looks like DHCP is sort of functioning20:28
SoulRavenhello20:28
lucidoherro20:28
SoulRavenplase help mw with something20:28
sudormrfbecause in the syslog it is getting DHCPDISCOVER and then doing the DHCPOFFER20:28
sudormrfbut the resolv.conf isn't correct on the client.20:28
sudormrf:S20:28
SoulRaveni have a bash script, that use this condition: if which initctl >/dev/null && initctl version | grep -q upstart20:28
SoulRaventhe script is taken from a ppa20:29
SoulRavenfor mosquitto20:29
SoulRaventhe probiem is the script fails when i try to start, because is cheking initctl20:29
SoulRavenany ieea why?20:29
perhapstiredwilee-nilee: you're right. I was getting the folders wrong, and creating them in a place I wasn't looking for --- home not in user xD20:30
holsteinSoulRaven: poor implementation? bad script.. you'll need to ask the creators, ideally20:30
SoulRaveni can from bash channel, the script is this: https://gist.github.com/soulraven/73038879f569db7d24be#file-gistfile1-txt-L4420:31
wilee-nileeperhapstired, Cool, sounds like you figured it out. ;)20:32
sudormrfeh, no hardware announcements (as anticipated)20:34
sudormrfsorry, wrong channel.20:34
sudormrfso yeah, anyone around that can help me figure out what is going on with this bind/isc-dhcp-server setup?20:34
holsteinsudormrf: what have you changed? and why?20:35
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sudormrfholstein, I just had to modify some of the addresses because when I changed it to host only it changed the IP range the machines were using.  so I went into each of the appropriate config files and modified that info.  the DHCP server seems to be partially working as it is serving addresses, but the  client isn't getting the nameserver or search info from the server.  not sure why20:37
holsteinsudormrf: i would return to default, and test.. then, if all is working, i would closely examine my configs20:37
holsteinsudormrf: not sure what you mean by "partially working".. the DHCP server for your network? it would give out ip address on your network.. is it? is it not? is it just giving ip's to a few?20:38
sudormrfholstein, not sure I follow the "return to default" part.  if you mean wipe the config and rewrite it....:S.  I have been examining the configs and comparing them to something that is working in production.20:38
holsteinsudormrf: i mean, save your current configs.. return to default, and test20:39
sudormrfholstein, partially working meaning it is serving up the IP addresses but it is not pushing out the nameserver and search domain info.  this is on two VMs on the same host.  network adapters set to host only.20:39
sudormrfholstein, return to default sounds like wiping the config.20:39
holsteinsudormrf: not really.. they have differnt words... such as "wipe", which i never said, nor implied20:40
holsteinsudormrf: i specifically chose "backup"20:40
sudormrfholstein, well then define default.20:40
holsteinsudormrf: default.. not your current ones that are not working20:40
sudormrfholstein, that is not the definition of default, but semantics.20:40
holsteinsudormrf: cool.. try a  networking channel, or the server channel20:41
holstein!server20:41
ubottuUbuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server20:41
sudormrfjumping over to server.  Thanks!20:41
STEVOOOOI messed up when installing linux, i install some strange version of ubuntu..20:42
STEVOOOOblackbuntu20:42
wilee-nileeSTEVOOOO, Not supported here.20:42
STEVOOOOIm downloading the correct version now, how can i create a bootable USB drive for that?20:42
holstein!install | STEVOOOO20:42
ubottuSTEVOOOO: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate20:42
STEVOOOOwilee-nilee, im going to change20:42
wilee-nileeSTEVOOOO handfuls of usb loaders.20:43
oitbJordan_U, sorry, I didnt realize I was disconnected. you asked me why ubuntu servers should have my keyring files. I am not informed about if it's possible, only a last hope, in case an image etc. can be accessed somewhere20:45
deydoes intel provide a similar software to nvidia-settings?20:46
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deylike*20:46
holsteindey: not really.. not a GUI like that20:46
Jordan_Uoitb: Unless you were using Ubuntu one to backup your key files, I can't think of any reason that Ubuntu servers would have these files.20:46
deyholstein: im just wondering if i can setup the displays with a margin between them like i can with nvidia20:46
holsteindey: i use the GUI arandr20:47
oitbJordan_U, I see. could that be then possible for the servers of individual applications? for ex. feed readers, firefox..at least can I have a chance to get to data on these?20:48
deyholstein: so, it is possible? to do what i want to do with intel hd chips?20:48
holsteindey: i use the arandr GUI, have you tried it?20:49
Guest31872hi, does anyone here know any education/policy type irc chatrooms? apologies in advance for non-topic.20:49
holstein!info arandr20:49
ubottuarandr (source: arandr): Simple visual front end for XRandR. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.7.1-1 (trusty), package size 66 kB, installed size 507 kB20:49
holsteindey: nothing about ubuntu is preventing you and intel from doing that20:49
deyholstein: no, because atm i have a nvidia card and use the nvidia-settings tool20:49
deyholstein: i just thought its a driver thing. either its implemented or its not20:49
Pici!alis | Guest3187220:50
ubottuGuest31872: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*20:50
Jordan_Uoitb: Well for things like gmail, of course everything is stored on Google's servers and can be re-downloaded if you have youre google account. Most applications however are not like this.20:50
sudormrf#ubuntu-server is dddeeeeaaddd :(20:50
Guest31872ubottu, thanks20:50
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)20:50
delinquentmeso under settings ... I'm unable to set my machine to hybernate when the lid closes.20:50
delinquentmeany idea why?20:50
oitbJordan_U, is it possible in case of firefox?20:51
deyholstein: but thanks for the tip. im gonna check it out20:51
Jordan_Uoitb: Firefox has a method of syncing its data across devices, but I'm not very familiar with it.20:51
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yshis it possible to format date like "2nd June 2014" using date util ?20:59
tubbo`webhello, i'm trying to resolve a problem that i'm experiencing after imaging a disk on one box running ubu 12.04 and restoring from that image on another box. these are two bare-metal machines.21:00
tubbo`webbasically, i don't get any ethernet interfaces21:00
tubbo`webeth0 and eth1 can't be found, but i do get a loopback (lo) interface.21:00
holsteintubbo`web: you could have installed a module that is breaking support.. or need a module21:00
tubbo`webholstein: i don't think we did any of that.21:01
tubbo`webdefinitely no custom modules being run21:01
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jhutchinstubbo`web: does ifconfig -a show them?  Does dmesg have anything about them?21:02
tubbo`webjhutchins: ifconfig -a shows them21:03
jhutchinstubbo`web: Then you merely need to configure them.21:04
tubbo`webjhutchins: when i do `service networking restart`, i get errors in the /var/log/upstart/networking.log21:04
Jordan_Uysh: Why do you want that particular format?21:04
jhutchinstubbo`web: The presence of errors is irrelevant.  Their content is everything.21:04
tubbo`webjhutchins: ok, how do i do that? i tried deleting the udev rules and running udevadm trigger && udevadm trigger --action=add21:04
yshjust, no reason, actually for my eyes :)21:04
ysh^ Jordan_U21:04
jhutchinstubbo`web: Since they're appearing in ifconfig, they're already being detected correctly.21:05
tubbo`webjhutchins: it just says "Cannot find device 'eth0'" "Failed to bring up eth0"21:05
OerHekstubbo`web, if you have eth2/eth3 now instead of eth0/eth1, you might want to remove  /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules to detect networkcards ( & macadresses) again >> http://chris.dziemborowicz.com/blog/2010/07/25/fix-missing-eth0-when-cloning-ubuntu-vmware-virtual-machines/21:05
jhutchinstubbo`web: What did you use to configure the interfaces on the first system?21:05
tubbo`webjhutchins: *phew* :)21:05
tubbo`webOerHeks: again? :D21:05
yshJordan_U: is it possible?21:05
tubbo`webjhutchins: not srue21:05
tubbo`websure*21:05
jhutchinstubbo`web: No, that's only to change the numbering.21:05
jhutchins!networking21:05
tubbo`webjhutchins: i'm not sure we used anything..21:05
tubbo`webit just...came up like that21:06
tubbo`weboh wait never mind i'm sorry21:06
jhutchinsSeriously!?  No networking factoid?21:06
tubbo`weboriginally we used the installer and we use PXE to boot so i think it's all pre-configured in there21:06
Jordan_Uysh: Probably, but I haven't found out how yet.21:06
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yshokie, let it be i'm happy with date +"%d %B %Y"21:07
jhutchinstubbo`web: Ok, you can either use network manager to configure it (best if it's a system that moves from net to net) or /etc/network/interfaces21:07
tubbo`webOerHeks: what am i supposed to do after deleting the udev rules file?21:07
drorhi. i'm running 14.04, and my camera (canon powershot sx260 hs) isn't picked up when i connect it using usb and turn it on. i'm not seeing any error message, simply nothing. any ideas? :-/21:07
OerHekstubbo`web, reboot i guess21:07
tubbo`webjhutchins: oh, sorry...i do have configuration in /etc/network/interfaces.21:07
jhutchinstubbo`web: You only need to delete that file if you want the devices to be re-detcted in a different order.21:08
perhapstiredWow it's really hard to actually encrypt and mount a file with ecryptfs in ubuntu, could someone point me to a tutorial that makes sense?21:08
tubbo`webOerHeks: ok, giving it a shot...i did try this already and it didn't really do anything.21:08
tubbo`webas far as i could tell anyway21:08
jhutchinstubbo`web: It re-detected them as the same devices.21:08
tubbojhutchins: that makes sense (this is tubbo`web i'm just on a real client now)21:09
tubbolol21:10
tubboOerHeks: that totally worked. apparently i have to do this twice? lol21:10
Jordan_Uysh: date +"%dth %B %Y" | sed 's/1th/1st/' | sed 's/2th/2nd/' | sed 's/3th/3rd/' #Maybe :)21:10
tubbooh FUCK21:10
tubbothe nics are reversed21:10
tubbogod dammit this is so annoying21:10
Jordan_Utubbo: Please watch your language.21:10
OerHekstubbo after cloning from one machine to an other, yes, first thing that comes in my mind21:11
AnthonyUKBefore I start is this the right channel to ask a motherboard ubuntu compatibility question?21:11
tubboOerHeks: the NICs are still wrong21:11
yshJordan_U: :D, nice ! thank you.21:11
Jordan_Uysh: You're welcome. You might want to check if there are any corner cases that I didn't think of.21:11
tubboOerHeks: they're not eth2 and eth3 anymore but eth0 and eth1 are flipped from what they should be21:11
deyAnthonyUK: just shoot away21:11
jhutchinstubbo:  /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules has an entry for each network card it has seen.  If you change cards, it keeps the old one and adds the new one.21:11
jhutchinstubbo: You can just edit that file to change the order.21:12
OerHeksjhutchins +121:12
tubbook21:12
tubboso like...is it possible to do this *automatically*?21:13
AnthonyUKI want to upgrade my homeserver/main media centre pc to a haswell and before I decide what to buy I want to make sure linux runs ok on it, I have searched on the internet but it seems abit all over the place21:13
tubbobecause i feel like it's just me juggling udev rules every time i try to do this21:13
AnthonyUKboard im curently looking at is http://www.dabs.com/products/asus-h87-pro-s1150-intel-h87-ddr3-atx-90PZ.html?refs=492970000-42180000-50626&src=321:13
AnthonyUKAsus H87-PRO S1150 Intel H87 DDR3 ATX21:13
yshJordan_U: made a small change date +"%-dth %B %Y" | sed 's/1th/1st/' | sed 's/2th/2nd/' | sed 's/3th/3rd/' :), anyways thank you again.21:13
AnthonyUKit needs to be stable and run 24/721:13
Jordan_Uysh: You're welcome.21:14
deyAnthonyUK: well it wont be stable 24/7 because it cant take ecc ram21:14
tubboOerHeks: so i get the interfaces now, but networking.log is still telling me it failed to bring up eth0 and eth121:14
tubbobecause it couldn't find them21:14
TJ-ysh: A tip. With sed, you can chain multiple patterns in a single call to sed using  "-e 'pattern' repeatedly21:15
perhapstiredYou know when you've created a a directory with sudo mkdir /home/bla, like that, and then the next step is mount -t ecryptfs /home/bla, does anyone know why7 instead of mounting the directory for me and asking me for passphrases, it gives me a set of usage instructions that include, for instance 'mount -t type dev dir : ordinary mounted command'?21:15
AnthonyUKdey: is this why my current homeserver stalls after so many days?21:15
yshTJ-: thank you!21:15
deyAnthonyUK: ecc removes one possible error. It could be the issue but it doesnt ahve to be the problem21:15
trijntjeperhapstired, because you aren't specifying what to mount21:16
Jordan_Utubbo: Fedora has a system, which I believe depends on systemd, for always giving network cards unique stable names (that are longer and more complicated than "eth0"). Ubuntu will likely switch to this scheme when it switches to systemd. There is also an older similar solution called "biosdevname" which can be used in Ubuntu today.21:16
Jordan_UTJ-: Thanks for that sed tip.21:17
adnapIs Ubuntu for the Nexus 7 more limited than desktop Ubunutu? Could I change my window manager, for example?21:17
deyAnthonyUK: there are only two ecc boards on the market that can be properly used as desktop boards iirc. asus p9d ws and asrock c226 ws. Both 1150. AMD would give your more choices i think.21:18
holstein!touch21:18
ubottuInformation about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch21:18
holsteinadnap: ^21:18
AnthonyUKdey: so would you only recomend a system with ecc if you were making a system you wanted to run 24/36521:19
perhapstiredtrijntse: damn it whats wrong with my brain cells you're right.21:19
deyAnthonyUK: absolutely21:19
AnthonyUKI'm still learning linux, had it for half a year so am still picking this stuff up21:19
deyAnthonyUK: and in that case I wouldnt take amd, because the powerbill would make me poor :D21:19
AnthonyUKil check out the mobos you suggested21:20
deyAnthonyUK: there are more mainboards with ecc, but most of them dont have soundcards etc...21:20
AnthonyUKyeh this is another reason for an upgrade, i want lower power, quieter, and more grunt with hd graphics that can do 3d playback21:20
Guest88131After installing 14.04 it seems the auto-completion behaves strangely. Is this a known issue? Is there any workaround?  This issue seems relevant but it is also stated as "fixed released": https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bash/+bug/129158621:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1291586 in bash (Ubuntu) "autocomplete not working with escaped characters" [Undecided,Fix released]21:20
zerowaitstateAnthonyUK: ecc is mostly for servers that run critical services.21:20
deyzerowaitstate: if he plans to let it run 24/365 i consider stability critical :/21:21
Guest88131My issue is that I still can't autocomplete filenames which is.. annoying.21:21
holsteinGuest88131: working fine here.. where are you having issue with auto-complete?21:21
AnthonyUKI just want a linux system that doesnt need a reboot every 4 to 10 days, I run samba server, torrents, ftp server for friends, mythtv for all my shows21:22
Guest88131I'm using the 3.6 gnome terminal.21:22
AnthonyUKand any other thing that takes my fancy21:22
AnthonyUKthe latest is a vpn server21:22
Guest88131holstein: Autocompleting directories works just fine, but when I try filenames, there is no autocomplete, but only a show of alternatives.21:22
adnap#ubuntu-touch seems pretty dead21:23
jhutchinsAnthonyUK: There's no real reason to go to server-grade hardware or even ECC, just a decent quality motherboard and reasonable RAM.21:23
Jordan_UGuest88131: What happens if you type "echo /etc/fs" then hit the tab key?21:23
Guest88131hum that worked.21:24
holsteinadnap: you may want to wait a day or 2 and see if anyone can help.. or try the mailing list for the project.. or just download it and see what it does for you21:24
jhutchinsAnthonyUK: You can go as fancy as you like, but with a single user or even small office load a regular desktop unit is fine.21:24
adnapI just want to know if I can edit .xinitrc for example and start another window manager. The last time I use Ubuntu, they had added the more complicated LightDM21:24
Guest88131jordan_U: It autocompleted to fstab.21:24
Guest88131(and proposed fstab and fstab.d/21:24
trijntjeadnap, I dont think it will be easy to change desktop environments on the phone, what else would you put on it?21:24
deyAnthonyUK: also, you can always check #hardware and #reddit-buildapc for these issues :)21:24
Jordan_UGuest88131: So please give an example of a case where it does not work.21:25
adnaptrijntje: A simple window manager that only has an X dependency21:25
adrian111you need to be typing a command21:25
AnthonyUKjhutchins I was looking at one desktop mobo but I want to make sure that it is compatible with linux before I buy21:25
holsteinadnap: the touch platform is quite different from ubuntu21:25
adrian111like cd will autocomplete directories, and cp will autocomplete files21:25
trismGuest88131: I think bash-complete is a bit buggy since bash 4.3, for instance: dpkg -S $(which <tab>21:25
jhutchinsGuest88131: What can autocomplete depends on what operation you're trying to do.21:25
AnthonyUKAsus H87-PRO S1150 Intel H87 DDR3 ATX21:25
holsteinAnthonyUK: if they dont promise you support, then, you really cant guarantee it. consider going with a system from someone like system7621:26
jhutchinsAnthonyUK: The only way anybody knows that is if somebody has bought it and tried it.  If you're lucky, they uploaded the info to one of the compatibility databases.21:26
jhutchinsAnthonyUK: Or buy it from a place where you can take it back.21:26
holsteineven if one has bought and tried it, and something in the kernel needs to change that breaks suppor, support will be broken21:26
jhutchinsholstein: That seldom happens moving forward, except for video.21:27
zerowaitstateAnthonyUK: here's the thing; if your load is mostly bursty, then standard consumer grade hardware will be okay. If you are under consistent heavy load, however, you will experience much better performance/stability w/ Xeon+ECC. They will operate better over long periods of time under max load.21:27
deyAnthonyUK: to be 99% sure, check if the used chips are linux compatible (NIC, soundcard, etc...)21:27
AnthonyUKI've been checking some of them, one review was like x motherboard works, he benched it for 72 hours, I was thinking my system lasts longer than that before it crashes21:27
holsteinjhutchins: the kernel routinely drops support for "legacy" hardware.. and for other reasons, things can break, and if the vendor doesnt promise support, support may not come21:27
jhutchinsAnthonyUK: I've had Asus and Megabyte and done well with them.21:27
Guest88131holstein: If I attempt to go to a directory where I have a bunch of plugin_XX.h files. If I try to autocomplete on plu<tab> there are only plugin_XX files listed but the filename isn't expanded to the common string plugin_21:27
jhutchinsAnthonyUK: I've also done a LOT of Dells.21:28
deyAnthonyUK: you dont need a xeon tho, pentium, i3 both have i3 support and HT too21:28
AnthonyUKzerowaitstate: i just do home stuff nothing under heave load like a pro site or out21:28
deyECC*21:28
jhutchinsAnthonyUK: You only need Xeons if you're either serving a LOT of users or doing something like big code compiles that really work the CPU.21:28
zerowaitstateAnthonyUK: yeah, just be aware if that if you make the transition to the business environment where downtime costs, the hardware req's are different.21:29
AnthonyUKI just don't like coming to my system and find it hung 20 hours ago and alot of my stuff is off line, i don't want to reboot it every day to avoid that21:29
zerowaitstateAnthonyUK: for home use consumer stuff is just fine21:29
AnthonyUKk21:29
holsteinAnthonyUK: i dont find that the case, friend.. but, if you want a gurantee, get hardware that provides that gurantee21:29
jhutchinsAnthonyUK: I've been running linux 24/7 since the 90's and have never had trouble with that except when hardware was failing.21:29
AnthonyUKI'll stick with desktop then as server hardware is prob out of my budget anyway21:29
deythe mainboard is more expensive, the rest is the same/costs the same21:30
jhutchinsAnthonyUK: I suppose if you're in the UK the supply chain is different, I've had very good luck with refurbished Dells from MicroCenter.21:30
TJ-AnthonyUK: If it is hanging, pay close attention to "/var/log/kern.log" for any indications of problems21:30
AnthonyUKmaybe it is just the old motherboards I have been using, one motherboard when I rebooted via ssh it hung at the bios, another mobo the onboard ethernet would stall after a day, my current mobo is the best yet but still hangs in 4-10 days21:31
jhutchins(Then again, Windows servers didn't hang when I built 'em either.)21:31
AnthonyUKjust a run of bad luck i guess21:31
AnthonyUKTJ-: will do21:31
jhutchinsAnthonyUK: Not much point in retroactively diagnosing it I guess, but we'll be here if you have any trouble.21:31
zerowaitstateAnthonyUK: cr@p drivers most likely. That sounds like a resource leak.21:32
anonymoushj21:34
anonymoushi21:34
AnthonyUKhi21:34
anonymoushow are you21:35
AnthonyUKblown over buy the info I have just received hehe21:35
AnthonyUKyou?21:35
anonymoushacker facebook21:36
* bprompt gives anonymous some lozenges for his *hacking*21:37
Picianonymous: Is there an Ubuntu question you need answers?21:37
Picifor?21:37
flExxizHi21:37
flExxizSome dutch people around here ?21:37
Pici!nl21:37
ubottuNederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl21:37
flExxizthanks!21:37
* Pici pokes ubottu 21:38
PiciflExxiz: Theres #ubuntu-nl21:38
Jordan_UGuest88131: Please pastebin the output of "ls" within that directory.21:42
user123321What is the solution if a C++ application built in Netbeans requires root access? Do I need to give NEtbeans root access or?21:43
user123321I need to debug.21:43
user123321The program I'm making requires root access, it's writing data to a device under /dev/21:44
Guest88131jordan_u: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7575962/21:45
Jordan_Uuser123321: Don't run netbeans as root, no part of the build process should run as root (except *maybe* "make test"). Prepend "gksudo" to the command for executing the program (how to accomplish that in NetBeans I don't know).21:45
user123321Jordan_U, Oh ok, thanks I'll check.21:46
Jordan_Uuser123321: You're welcome.21:47
user123321Jordan_U, I'll just code it in vi ;)21:48
user123321So I'll just have to run as sudo right.21:48
user123321?21:48
stealthiiHi there. I want to permanently set my console font to 'ter-powerline-v16n', but `dpkg-reconfigure console-setup` doesn't provide very many font options.  How can I set this permanently systemwide?21:48
Jordan_Uuser123321: Don't be silly, nobody still uses vi. Use vim :)21:48
AnthonyUKlol i use vi21:49
Jordan_Uuser123321: The executable, and likely gdb as well, will have to be run as root.21:49
user123321Hmm, I think I installed VIM, but I use vi command ;)21:49
user123321Jordan_U, ah. oh damn, I forgot debugging, :(21:49
user123321Can't I just disable this root thingy for some days? :(21:50
Jordan_Uuser123321: Try asking in #netbeans.21:50
user123321ok.21:50
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user123321It's kind of getting urgent atm, with no answer from #netbeans as well. Ok, is it dangerous to run netbeans as root? Will it solve the problem?22:00
holsteinuser123321: i say, its dangerous to run things when you dont know if they should be run as root or not22:00
holsteinthe general rule is, dont run as root when you dont need to..22:01
user123321holstein, Ah, ok.22:01
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zerowaitstateuser123321: which /dev file is it writing to?22:02
user123321zerowaitstate, ttyACM022:03
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zerowaitstateuser123321: as an alternative, you may be able to set up a udev rule that gives a particular non-root user or group the ability to write to that particular device. I'm guessing this is either a USB RS232 dongle or a modem.22:05
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user123321zerowaitstate, Cool, how could I do that? Yes, I'm trying to connect to my Android phone.22:06
Jordan_Uuser123321: You shouldn't need to be root to access that IIRC, just a member of the dialout group.22:06
user123321Jordan_U, I see.22:06
TJ-user123321: Normally, "/dev/ttyACM*" are owned by group "dialout". To allow read/write access simply add a regular user to that group with "sudo adduser $USER dialout", then have the user log-out/log-in again for the group membership to take effect.22:07
zerowaitstateword22:07
user123321TJ-, Cool, so, executing ""sudo adduser $USER dialout" will solve it?22:08
user123321Shall I execute that in the terminal now?22:08
TJ-user123321: You can check the ownership with "ls -l /dev/tty/ACM*" - look at the 5th-7th characters of the line, which are the group permissions. You want to see "rw-" and "dialout" listed in the 4th column.22:08
zerowaitstateuser123321: replace $USER with whatever user netbeans is running as22:09
TJ-user123321: Here's mine: "$ ls -l /dev/ttyACM0   >>>    crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 166, 0 Jun  2 14:43 /dev/ttyACM0"22:09
trickyheroso I'm trying to follow this tutorial but when I get to the third command this happens: mount: special device /home/users does not exist22:10
trickyherohttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo22:10
user123321here's mine: crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 166, 0 ජූනි    3 02:40 /dev/ttyACM022:10
TJ-user123321: That's good... go ahead and issue the "sudo adduser ..." command and then have that user log-out/log-in22:11
TheEmpathhi.  I'm trying to have my ubuntu desktop automatically connect to my VPN on startup, but it appears to be very difficult to do that22:11
user123321Cool, ok.22:11
TheEmpathi've tried the instructionsh here http://www.bauer-power.net/2013/11/script-to-automatically-connect-and.html but the problem is when you shutdown the computer, it never stops the autovpn service so it just hangs during shutdown22:12
TheEmpathand i've tried adding nmcli con up uuid <whatever the VPN id is> to a Startup Application, but then it whines about gtk-root errors and never works22:12
Avihaywell, TheEmpath, sound's like you need a *puts sunglasses on* killer script22:13
TheEmpathlol22:14
TheEmpaththe "Automatically connect to VPN when using this connection" option in the Network Manager option doesn't appear to work consistanly either22:14
zerowaitstatetrickyhero: sorry, but did you include the "--bind"?22:14
trickyheroyup22:15
AvihayTheEmpath: I don't use unity, so I wouldn't know, sorry, just happend to watch your messages22:15
TheEmpathdoh :(22:15
user123321TJ-, zerowaitstate : It worked :D, thanks :D22:15
TheEmpathif there was a way to detect if the system was shutting down in a script, i could solve this22:15
TheEmpathlike if [[ $someEnvVar == "shutting down" ]]22:15
AvihayTheEmpath: there are ways. you can add an init script22:16
zerowaitstatetrickyhero: do you have a /home/users directory?22:16
mujeeDoes anybody know how to have remote assistance to virtualbox machine having windows 7 from ubuntu using winconn22:16
AvihayTheEmpath:  they are ran when your linux runlevel changes. I don't have time to explain, but I can try to find you a link. I managed to pull it off once22:17
trickyherooh, can I just use something like /home/dw instead22:17
zerowaitstatetrickyhero: or /home22:17
holsteinmujee: you'll want (i assume) networking setup where you get an IP on your network, not passed through the host NIC.. then, you would forward what you need to the IP through your router22:18
OpentuxHello22:18
zerowaitstatetrickyhero: I think that's the issue; the howto isn't using the standard Ubuntu directory layout22:18
trickyherothanks zerowaitstate !22:19
zerowaitstatetrickyhero: it's about 4 years old. That's like 28 in dog years.22:19
mujeeholstein: actually I followed this video whose link i dont know if i can post here or not..22:19
mujeebut in the end when i try to connect i get error connection to server failed22:20
AvihayTheEmpath: this seems in the right direction http://shabirimam.wordpress.com/2009/03/10/adding-script-to-run-at-startup-or-shutdown/   also http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-write-sys-v-init-script-to-start-stop-service.html  though buntu uses upstart, I think it may still apply22:20
trickyheroah, I was orignally following another tut that was made for fedora so I figured this would be better22:20
holsteinmujee: no need.. just make sure, if you need ports forwarded, that you are doing the kind of networking where the guest gets an IP from the router, then, forward whatevrer ports are necessary22:20
Avihaythere are also some usefull manpages22:20
zerowaitstateAvihay: yeah, the newer init daemons have backward compatibility directories for sysv style init scripts22:21
mujeeholstein: so you are trying to say that i must establish a static ip for the guest and that should be forwarded through the router22:22
holsteinmujee: no.. not static, but an ip from the router22:22
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holsteinmujee: bridged networking instead of the NAT default, which is *not* an ip that your router can forward a port to22:23
holsteinmujee: you can look at the IP your guest has, and see that it is on your network from the router or not..22:23
mujeeholstein: when i put the command ipconfig in cmd it shows the ip 10.0.2.1522:23
holsteinmujee: correct. that is *not* from your router22:23
holsteinmujee: that is the incorrect type of networking configuration.. you need the other kind.. bridged.. where you will get one your router can forward a port to22:24
holsteinmujee: its in the settings on the host in virtualbox.. for the guest in question22:24
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mujeeholstein: so rather than going with nat i should go with bridged?22:25
holsteinmujee: if you have not tried that, please do try it.. thats what im still suggesting.. so that your router gets an IP to the guest that it can forward a port to22:26
perhapstiredwhat does cd ~ mean in clispeak?22:26
holstein!cd22:26
mujeeholstein: ok i turn off the guest and go with bridged adapter and let you know what happens22:26
holsteinperhapstired: change directory is cd22:27
mujeeholstein: actually the video i saw the guy made on youtube.. he was able to do it with nat22:28
perhapstiredholstein: What do you think the squiggly line stands for in the context?22:28
holsteinperhapstired: home22:29
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holsteinmujee: then, ask "the guy on youtube".. i say, if the application requires port forwarding, give it an IP on your network and forward a port22:29
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zlevetskyhi all22:32
TehNubKillahola22:32
mujeeholstein: well i have now gone through with the bridged connection.. now it shows a proper ip 192.168.1.822:32
zlevetskyhow do you do?22:32
perhapstiredholstein: someone who advises, in order to stop someone else from going back to root to encrypt a folder, to write cd / followed by ecryptfs-mount-private followed by cd ~ and then says 'You have to leave your ~/ and come back', what do you think he means?22:33
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holsteinperhapstired: you have to leave your home directory and come back22:33
mujeeholstein: Thank you very much... it worked :)22:33
holsteinmujee: cheers22:34
perhapstiredholstein: do you mean close and open terminal?22:34
holsteinperhapstired: no.. leave your /home directory, and come back22:34
holsteinperhapstired: you can close what you like to attain that goal..22:35
mujeeholstein: cheers.. have a nice day :)22:35
AnthonyUKRight I'm gona take off, I've done a lot of reading on linux motherboard compatability and have alot more to go. Thanks for all the help and info guys and girls I have saved it too a notepad file. Which ever system I buy I'll post my hardware and how it got on stability wise.22:36
AnthonyUKpeace out22:36
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irreverantwhat's better than ubuntu?!22:45
irreverantRHEL!22:45
perhapstiredholstein: I see. I thought I was at username but apparently that also means I'm at home.  Surely he means go inside the private directory to mount it? Problem is, I can't mount from user, I have to go into root, but then I can only use nautilus from cli which is annoying.22:45
holsteinperhapstired: you can set permissions as needed22:46
holstein!mount22:46
ubottumount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount22:46
EpicRainbowSo, I have a 10 year old piece of crap, with a 4200 rpm hard drive. If it takes about 50 seconds to start the software center, should I think about upgrading to a 5400 rpm?22:46
holsteinEpicRainbow: no22:47
EpicRainbowHow come?22:47
holsteinEpicRainbow: i do not think the speed of the hard drive is going to be that noticable in that scenario22:47
s1991Hello, how can I uninstall drivers installed by plug and play devices??22:48
holsteinEpicRainbow: if you have a 10 year old machine, dont use the software center.. use something like xubuntu or lubuntu and light apps intended for slower/older machines22:48
EpicRainbowI have a monitor status on my taskbar, whenever I open a program, IOWait is maxed out all the time, the processor isn't past halfway22:48
holsteins1991: depends on what devices.. were drivers installed? if they just plug in and work, then, those drivers are in the modular kernel22:48
achhabraTesting IRC22:49
holsteinEpicRainbow: no software tweak is going to make your machine any faster or newer.. are you using xubuntu or lubuntu? if not, try those. they *are* ubuntu made more for a machine of your vintage and specs..22:49
s1991holstein: I've facing problem with my wireless mouse-keyboard in ubuntu22:49
EpicRainbowI wasn't talking about a software tweak. I was wondering how much of a difference +1200 rpm's to the hard drive was going to make22:50
zlevetskyquit22:50
perhapstiredholstein: so you recommend sticking to mounting from root but changing permissions of the mountable folder to say 700?22:50
holsteinEpicRainbow: not much, as i said.. feel free and ask in a hardware channel. or just try it, if you have one sitting around22:50
holsteinEpicRainbow: the things that you will notice are, using software that is appropriate for your machine.. such as lxde or xfce.. are you?22:50
holsteinperhapstired: i would have to know your goal to make a recommendation22:51
EpicRainbowUbuntu runs fine, it's just the slow hard drive that slows it down. The CPU is fine unless I'm on youtube22:51
holsteinEpicRainbow: i disagree..22:51
holsteinEpicRainbow: but, feel free and purchase what you like..22:51
EpicRainbowholstein, I have a Pentium M 1.7 GHZ22:52
holsteinEpicRainbow: youtube requires flash, which, can present completely different issues.. you can try the pepperflash in chrome or htlm5 youtube22:52
holsteinhttps://www.youtube.com/html522:52
principehey while on it22:52
principewhat is more lightweight22:52
holsteinEpicRainbow: https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/22:52
EpicRainbowholstein, I installed an older archived version for linux22:52
principehtml5 or installing or the flash crap22:52
EpicRainbowholstein, So flash works in all browsers22:53
principemy cpu was idelling at 50 % when i installed flash btw22:53
holsteinEpicRainbow: why? you can use 14.04 that is intended for your machine22:53
perhapstiredholstein: Well I successfully mounted an encrypted directory but as I did it using sudo I found the only way to access it was through gksudo nautilus. Now my objective is just to get the username not the root to mount a folder anywhere so the user can open and modify the encrypted folder.22:53
holsteinEpicRainbow: im not saying its not working.. im saying, the more recent version may provide "better" performance22:53
EpicRainbowholstein, Well that was before the update22:53
holsteinEpicRainbow: are you using lubuntu or xubuntu?22:53
holsteinEpicRainbow: i would, and do suggest trying that before throwing hardware at the "problem"22:54
EpicRainbowholstein, Ubuntu. I'm not big on XFCE. I do like Gnome and cinnamon though. I do know there is a gnome, I just haven't looked at it yet22:54
principeanyone22:54
holsteinEpicRainbow: gnome, and unity both require 3d support and work best one newer hardware22:54
EpicRainbowholstein, I suppose22:55
holsteinEpicRainbow: if you are asking, what will make my machine noticably run faster, try xubuntu or lubuntu22:55
phantomx013Hello22:55
phantomx013I have a small "stupid" question22:55
holsteinEpicRainbow: you suppose they require 3d support? they do.. thats fact22:55
phantomx013I have a small "stupid" question...22:55
perhapstiredholstein: what would you recommend me?22:55
phantomx013i found a very old version of ubuntu cs v8 and i installed it on my old laptop22:56
EpicRainbowholstein, I'm dying to get a better laptop, but since I have a fast desktop the only thing I feel like doing is maybe getting the current standard speed hard drive and a new battery (current lasts 30 mins only)22:56
holsteinEpicRainbow: they have 2d pass through modes but thats software.. and takes a lot of sytem resources22:56
phantomx013now my laptop doesn't have the option to boot from usb and i dont have a blank dvd to write the new version of ubuntu on it22:56
holsteinEpicRainbow: the hard drive wont matter much, friend. but, swtiching to xubuntu or lubuntu from unity will22:56
phantomx013i dowloaded the iso file on desktop22:56
phantomx013is there a way to upgrade using that iso file22:56
holsteinEpicRainbow: and im not hating on unity at all.. use it if you like, and have the hardware for it..22:56
EpicRainbowholstein, The graphics seem to run fine on this machine22:56
holsteinEpicRainbow: then, enjoy the machine, friend22:57
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nevynEpicRainbow: get a ssd?22:57
phantomx013anyone?22:57
lnxmntif u have a flash/thumb drive u can install it using Universal USB Installer22:57
holsteinan ssd would be noticable..22:57
EpicRainbownevyn, I don't think they have IDE SSD's. Not sure though, haven't checled22:58
lnxmnthttp://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/22:58
nevynit's THAT old?22:58
EpicRainbownevyn, Lol, yup22:58
phantomx013ok .... that makes sense22:58
EpicRainbownevyn, I installed Ubuntu because it can't handle Windows xp22:58
holsteinperhapstired: i use plop22:58
holsteinphantomx013: ^ plop22:58
holsteinperhapstired: you can change permissions if you like22:58
phantomx013plop?22:58
holsteinphantomx013: you have to burn that to CD22:59
phantomx013is there a way to install directly from the iso i downloaded22:59
holsteinhttp://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/download.html22:59
phantomx013I dont have a cd or dvd..i'll have to buy iy22:59
holsteinphantomx013: yes, there is a way, but your machine doesnt support it22:59
holsteinphantomx013: you can copy the iso to anything the machine can boot, burn plop to cd/dvd/or floppy... or get a DVD or cd23:00
phantomx013ok ....23:00
phantomx013i found this old laptop, i thought i'll install ubuntu on it and make it a media server kind of thing23:01
EpicRainbowThis might sound like a stupid question but I can't seem to use the down arrow key to select google search sugestions. It works for scrolling and other stuff but not that. How can I fix that? :p23:01
phantomx013is there a way to upgrade the boot software and have it run from usb as well?23:02
yahello, I have an issue with my wifi connection on a MacbookPro4,1 and ubuntu 14.04:  the wifi networks are identified, but I cannot get to connect to any of them -- any idea what the problem might be?23:03
phantomx013i mean when i press F2, it takes me to this boot sw where i can change whether to boot from cd or hard drive but there is no usb option23:03
phantomx013holstein: you said floppy ..... lol ... no one uses floppies23:04
apb1963ok so I started up pulseaudio, tomahawk isn't seen by it pavucontrol... nor is my internal Intel sound card.... only external USB card is seen by it as far as I can tell.23:06
apb1963s/it//23:07
adeebnqoya: do they simply timeout?23:08
apb1963audacious, vlc and jitsi all play fine with ALSA.23:08
apb1963(on both sound cards)23:08
Beans_Hi, How do I point my firefox apt application launcher to my software centre? I'm trying to download bsnes from they're site :)23:09
Beans_Nevermind, software centre has it lol23:10
therams /join #SwiftChannel23:18
stealthiiHi there. I want to permanently set my console font to 'ter-powerline-v16n', but `dpkg-reconfigure console-setup` doesn't provide very many font options.  How can I set this permanently systemwide?23:30
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m477hello, how can I check if everything is ok,  when  at the ending of installation when the  system was preparing  to reboot,  I plugged out usb stick, and I saw some errors or strange outputs on first shell level?23:38
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Bashing-omm477: I would say right of hand, plug the usb drive back in and 'properly' UNmount it, if errors, run a file system check on the drive's file system.23:41
m477Bashing-om: it was during installation now  after reboot it seems to work, but I'd like to check if everything is ok23:43
m477do you mean system log file?23:43
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Bashing-omm477: To check the staus of your install terminal command: -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade <- if they run clean, you should be in good shape.23:45
m477ok23:46
morph-fsck /dev/sda123:46
morph-m477 ^23:46
morph-or whatever that drive is23:46
morph-probably sdb*23:46
m477morph-: should I run it on /?23:47
morph-no23:47
morph-u need to run it on whatever ur usb is named23:47
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morph-plug ur usb and type fdisk -l23:48
morph-see what it is23:48
morph-should be /dev/sdb1 or some such23:48
m477but is was installing kubuntu from that usb drive23:48
m477and I am not sure if system is properly installed23:48
morph-oh u want to check ur entire computer not just the usb?23:48
Bashing-omm477: To determine the 'name' of the devic,e run terminal command -> sudo fdisk -lu <-.23:49
morph-you'll need to get the device name the same way23:49
morph-just use whatever ur hard drive is..probably sda123:49
m477morph-: yes23:49
morph-so fsck /dev/sda123:49
principehello i am trying to change my keyboard layout in the command line23:49
principebut its not setting anything23:49
m477'entire computer' I mean fresh installed kubuntu23:50
principei have a french logitech k400r23:50
morph-yea u need to see which drive u put it on and use that23:50
morph-type fdisk -l23:50
principeand it just wants to use qwerty23:50
principeinstead23:50
jribprincipe: how are you trying?23:50
morph-look at the far left column, it will have stuff like /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2 etc23:50
morph-see which name corresponds to the partition you installed linux onto and use that like: fsck /dev/sda123:51
principei with dpkg reconfigure console-data23:51
principei rebooted and nothing23:51
m477morph-: ok but which partition / or /home, I have them separated23:51
morph-u trying to change it to dvorak or something?23:51
principei was going to go in etc/defaults/keyboard buti= i dunno23:51
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principeto azerty23:51
morph-uh m477 / will be it23:51
principehuh?23:52
m477morph-:  I can do it by df -h23:52
principei google around but no avail23:53
morph-principe http://krisreeves.com/things-that-should-be-easy/permanently-change-keyboard-layout-on-ubuntu-server-11-10/#tldr23:53
principei am using lightdm btw23:53
jribprincipe: why aren't you using the gui?23:53
principebecause no gui23:54
jribprincipe: or do you want to change it in virtual terminals?23:54
jribprincipe: lightdm is gui23:54
morph-theres ur answer man23:54
principeeverywhere23:54
principeor is there any way to toggle between them23:54
principei.e23:54
m477morph-: when I am trying  fsck /dev/sda3 (/) I got serrious warring that it is mounted and can damage file system23:54
principewhen i am home i have french keyboard when abroad and ssh in i have US23:54
morph-er cancel it then23:54
morph-i forgot u gotta unmount that23:54
MohammadAGcan someone help me out with permissions?23:54
Belisariussure23:55
MohammadAGI have a folder called InstantUpload owned by www-data23:55
Belisariuswhats the problem?23:55
MohammadAGdrwxrwx--- 2 www-data www-data 4096 Jun  3 02:27 InstantUpload23:55
MohammadAGsudo -u www-data touch InstantUpload/test -> touch: cannot touch ‘InstantUpload/test’: Permission denied23:55
Bashing-omm477: To check files systems the partitions must be UNmounted, so do from the liveUSB, terminal command -> sudo fdisk -lu <- to know the name. Then check you may check both /home and / ,, -> sudo e2fsck -C0 -p -f -v /dev/sda1 <- for instance.23:55
Belisariusis the folder on the same disk?23:55
morph-read the manual page on "badblocks" m47723:55
MohammadAGyeah, the folder's there23:56
morph-man badblocks23:56
jribMohammadAG: ls -l InstantUpload23:56
m477ok thx23:56
MohammadAGI can write to it as root, but not as www-data23:56
MohammadAGjrib drwxrwx--- 2 www-data www-data 4096 Jun  3 02:56 InstantUpload23:56
morph-m477 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/badblocks23:56
jribMohammadAG: no.  Please run the command as I said23:56
MohammadAGbut it's empty23:57
MohammadAGtotal 023:57
m477morph-:  Bashing-om and this will verify if installation occured properlly?23:57
morph-no23:57
MohammadAGsudo -u www-data ls -l InstantUpload/23:57
MohammadAGls: cannot access InstantUpload/: Permission denied23:57
morph-it just verifies whether ur disk is corrupted or not23:57
principewhat if my keyboar model is not on the list?23:57
m477corrupted in what way23:58
jrib!who | principe23:58
ubottuprincipe: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)23:58
morph-u said u ran dpkg-reconfigure console-data?23:58
principeyes23:58
m477I just want to know if installation occured properly23:58
morph-m477 why are u asking how to check bad sectors and stuff when u dont even know what they are?23:58
morph-ur fine man23:58
morph-trust me23:58
morph-ur good23:58
principe!morph yes23:59
morph-sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration ?23:59
m477morph-: there is  no any system application to verify that?23:59
m477I just want to be sure23:59
MohammadAGnevermind, figured it out23:59

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