=== hobgoblin is now known as elfy [07:52] Last week wasn't that fruitful for me. Let's hope this one is better. === zequence_ is now known as zequence [07:52] I'd roll upp my sleeves, had it not been too damn hot for them. [08:13] Funny that Xubuntu would introduce a new -core meta. [08:14] It's not as barebone as the lubuntu core. Seems to have most of what we need, so I'm thinking it would be good for our smaller ISO. [13:07] zequence: welcome back. [13:53] OvenWerks: Thanks [13:53] So far, from what I understand, the control option REPLACES is only useful when making a package conflict with another [13:54] Haven't read much about it, tbh. [19:52] zequence: I think it matters what order packages are installed too. For example we have to have the ISO creator see the av extra packages before it gets to the packages that depend on the the non-extra packages. [19:54] I am not sure that apt-get is so picky... or at least it is possible to have it defer looking at depends untill it has looked at all the packages in it's install list... or even not at all. [19:55] Systray is acting up. The system tray icon for qjackctl is only showing up sometimes in the past few days. [20:10] Hmm, seems to be something to do with rebooting VS. logout/in. Works fine on reboot. [20:11] That probably means timing as the machine is bussier at boot, I would think. [20:12] As a note I have it starting as a session service at session start. It seems to be fine if started sometime after a login. [20:15] I have been working with jackdbus as my session soundserver by default which seems very solid. Pulse still takes care of desktop sound but has been set not to see any audio interfaces so that when jack is not there it defaults to dummy sink. [20:26] I was thinking of suggesting this as the default setup for Studio, but wanted to live with it for sometime first. I am using qjackctl to start jack and a2jmidid, but a script may be better, It can be tuned to work with other things such as pulse. Right now I have to get qjackctl to start jackdbus in a similar time as apulseaudio -k. A script could be named such that jack was already up and running before pulse tried to start. [20:27] (or delayed till pulse is fully functional)