[04:20] <lifehappy> where's dash panel
[05:06] <letstrythis> o.0
[09:32] <dan-roger> hej
[12:08] <studio-user271> Thanks and Hello everyon
[16:12] <holstein> letstrythis: im sure you have already searched and found out about nice levels.. but in case you havent http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nice_(Unix)
[16:12] <holstein> letstrythis: you really shouldnt need to mess with those anymore for audio production, or otherwise.. unless you are trying to do something very particular, in which you would likely either already know, or want to learn about setting priorities
[16:59] <letstrythis> ty looking over a guide i know what nice is but not what moitorix is representing on a grapgh with nice value of 97%
[16:59] <letstrythis> ubunturt is not for audio only xD
[17:00] <holstein> letstrythis: i never implied it was
[17:00] <holstein> letstrythis: but, in relation to this channel, thats what i know about.. and we used to have to tweak those
[17:06] <letstrythis> lots of tweaking with rt...trying to get em balanced a bit better and understand how things use the current system
[17:06] <holstein> you shouldnt need to anymore
[17:06] <holstein> not many do, and if you start with a server distro, things should be setup as you need out of the box.. or at least close
[17:06] <holstein> there are compromises to any of these tweaks
[17:07] <holstein> the ones we discuss here will be irrelevant to your needs
[17:07] <holstein> the compromises are taking power management and laptops and audio/video production into account
[17:32] <letstrythis> xD well i went back to rt because it was obvious i needed to, i am unfamiliar with low latency, aesired i don't know it supports, it installed some rt compnents anyway, so i did a comparison over 3 days with just te day 1 install...and rt performed better for what i need to do so far...the gui doesn't pause, i can still work...and if it does, terminal works....internet stays on under high loads...many things
[17:33] <holstein> "better" is always a matter of opinion, and will typically invovle compromise
[17:33] <letstrythis> some adjustment dont need restarts...
[17:34] <holstein> if you were looking at power comsumption, and system resource load, and wear and tear.. etc..
[17:34] <letstrythis> yes
[17:34] <letstrythis> often those compromises can be worked out with upgrades, tweaks or working with devs too
[17:35] <holstein> letstrythis: i never impled they couldnt.. but, i dont think it "often"
[17:35] <letstrythis> yes, this is what i'm trying to look at now and understand
[17:35] <holstein> and, in itself there is an investement
[17:39] <letstrythis> yup, i'm already investing in this endevor so..plan to continue
[17:40] <letstrythis> the reason i come here, is because this is whee i got support for rt when it was basically just starting
[17:40] <holstein> sure.. its just that most folks typically find that the sane defaults are just that.. sane
[17:40] <holstein> letstrythis: actually this is where i started communicating with you in the first place about it in regards to audio production.. when you were unclear with me about what your intentions were
[17:41] <holstein> otherwise, i still say, you are in the wrong place
[17:41] <letstrythis> XD well audio will be part of it
[17:42] <holstein> letstrythis: *not* audio production friend.. not in the way that i am discussing, and this channel is focused
[17:43] <letstrythis> and so will video and cad work
[17:43] <holstein> which dont require what you are talking about
[17:44] <letstrythis> okay so live broacasting, voip isn't what your talking about?
[17:44] <holstein> letstrythis: correct. that is *not* what im talking about
[17:44] <holstein> letstrythis: this is only for 2 things.. as i said
[17:45] <letstrythis> regardless of how you define this, your being here, has helped me and so have others...thank you
[17:45] <holstein> live effects processing.. meaning, you pluck a guitar string, and you want an effect such as distortion to occur with the sound you are creating in as close to realtime as possible
[17:46] <holstein> software synths... you press a key on a midi keyboard, and a sound or sample is triggered in as close to realtime as possible.. so that when you press the key, it seems like you are playing the actual instrument
[17:46] <holstein> all other applications are not the scope of realtime for audio production, and are not really what we talk about with "realtime"
[17:46] <holstein> rt kernels are just allowing and facilitating priorities with compromises
[17:47] <letstrythis> cool, your exeieces with that custom setup will likely behelpful to o me and many others
[17:47] <holstein> other things facilitate other compromises
[17:47] <holstein> letstrythis: i dont do "custom" setups, though
[17:47] <holstein> letstrythis: this is just with the stock ubuntustudio setup
[17:47] <holstein> letstrythis: its tailored to, within reason, facilitate audio production
[17:48] <letstrythis> well that woud als be xubuntstudio basically?
[17:48] <holstein> letstrythis: there is no "xubuntustudio"
[17:48] <holstein> letstrythis: we use XFCE just as xubuntu does
[17:48] <holstein> letstrythis: they are *all* ubuntu
[17:53] <letstrythis> what kinda pc did you do this from, did you watch how hard things wrked at some point? I'm thinking along the lines of these comprprimises...i need to know how to ajust these things on the fly...much as i think you had to, but first i have to understand what the software is telling me, andso need something more then the standard system monitor, possible,
[17:53] <holstein> letstrythis: *many* different hardware cased.. i watched for audio production specific issues only
[17:54] <holstein> letstrythis: adjusting kernel paramaters like that on the fly should not be needed, or done
[17:54] <letstrythis> XD man i could imagine, many audio hadware is proprietary...
[17:55] <holstein> letstrythis: im not talking about with audio hardware
[17:55] <holstein> letstrythis: im talking about adjusting the kernel paramaters on the fly *specifically* as you suggest. that should be both avoided, and not necessary
[17:56] <letstrythis> yea well...what do you do when your sound breaks up and you know a slight prioirty increase would hel...knowing what it will comprimise, it would be a wise thing to do...no?
[17:57] <holstein> letstrythis: it doesnt
[17:57] <holstein> letstrythis: i use JACK, and it doesnt
[17:57] <holstein> letstrythis: for all my audio production needs, that are reasonable, audio doesnt break up
[17:57] <holstein> letstrythis: if it does, i relax my jack settings
[17:57] <letstrythis> i see
[17:58] <holstein> letstrythis: i do not intend to tweak kernel paramaters for this purpose
[17:59] <letstrythis> i do think i recall a few threads asking about jack and resource useage...
[17:59] <holstein> letstrythis: sure.. which are completely irrelevant to you
[17:59] <holstein> letstrythis: jack and resource usage is just for that.. using jack
[17:59] <holstein> and, if you dont need jack, you should use it. the overhead is not needed
[18:04] <letstrythis> okay, so what do you think is relevent?
[18:06] <holstein> letstrythis: really, just that you shouldnt be applying kernel settings like that on the fly
[18:06] <holstein> not in ubuntu, at least
[22:30] <studio-user712> italiani..?
[22:30] <holstein> !it
[23:21] <t001> Hi I switched from windows and I installed 14.04 with an ATI graphics card. What do I need to do before switchig to a GeForce 7200GS?
[23:23] <t001> I want to make sure NVidia 304-updates drivers are there to support my graphics card
[23:25] <t001> Also I am going to buy graphics cards for another computer. Should I avoid NVidia cards since I am not able to install 14.04 with those cards?
[23:31] <t001> any document or media you could point me to so I can switch my graphics card succesfully?
[23:32] <t001> Alguien sabe que hacer para cambiar una targeta grafica?
[23:33] <Unit193> t001: I don't know of a doc for that, but I can tell you I'm using 304 on this computer now tih 14.04.