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TheMusorobert_ancell: hey there. Did you manage to make your connection in Frankfert?00:12
robert_ancellTheMuso, yeah, I had no problems in the end. How long did you get delayed?00:12
TheMusorobert_ancell: Well wgrant, jamesh and myself missed our connecting flights, and had 7 hours or so to wait for the next flights, so we were put up in hotel rooms.00:13
robert_ancellTheMuso, lucky RAOF00:16
TheMusoYeah, he had a long layover anyway, so was going to be waiting a while, and had a hotel room in any case.00:18
TheMusoBecause he hda to wait for a later flight so he could then connect through to Hobart in Melb.00:18
pittiGood morning05:24
TheMusopitti: Hey there, hope you weren't affected by the Malta airport security scare on Saturday.06:27
didrocksgood morning btw!06:27
pittihey TheMuso; no, I left early enough; did you make it back in one piece?06:28
pittihey didrocks06:28
TheMusopitti: Yes, in once piece, but with a lovely 7 hour delay in the middle of it all, since I missed my connecting flight.06:28
pittierk06:28
TheMusoOh well.06:28
didrockshey pitti!06:28
pittiTheMuso: as that trip wasn't already long enough :(06:28
TheMusopitti: Indeed.06:29
TheMusoThe upside was that I got a hotel room for that time, and a food voucher, so I was able to get something to eat, I had access to a shower and a bed if Iwanted them.06:30
mlankhorstTheMuso: you should also be able to claim back the ticket price ;-)07:43
mlankhorstor at least parts of it07:43
TheMusomlankhorst: I booked through teh agent.07:45
mlankhorststill07:45
TheMusoI don't have the ticket receipt so...07:46
mlankhorstah right07:46
seb128good morning desktopers08:23
seb128FJKong, hey, what's your launchpad username?08:23
FJKongseb128: hey seb128 , my username is kroodylove08:24
seb128FJKong, thanks08:24
seb128FJKong, I'm updating the list of members on the team, I noticed it was outdated, just added you08:25
FJKongseb128: okay , thanks so much08:25
seb128yw!08:25
didrockshey seb128!08:29
seb128didrocks, lut ;-)08:30
FJKongseb128: meeting?08:58
seb128FJKong, we have a weekly one on IRC, but it's at 15:30, which doesn't work well for eastern countries ... you don't have to join, but you are welcome to if the time works for you08:59
seb128there used to be one for australia/new-zealand as well, we should probably resume that one if that works better for you guys09:00
FJKongseb128: it's okay, I sleep late at night09:00
seb128ok, feel free to join then ;-)09:00
FJKongseb128: I am a night bird09:00
seb128hehe09:00
tseliotseb128: hi, I have a fix for LP: #1287341. How shall I proceed? Shall I make a merge request? Or upload directly in utopic and file an SRU for trusty?09:14
ubot5Launchpad bug 1287341 in unity-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Touchscreen controls both screens in dual-monitor setup" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128734109:14
seb128tseliot, hey, thanks a lot for working on that!09:16
seb128tseliot, I'm reading your comment, but ideally please merge request, having a code review doesn't hurt09:16
tseliotseb128: ok09:16
seb128tseliot, so yeah, agreed, ideally we want to rebase on current upstream, but that's quite some work and not SRU material, so meanwhile +1 for the easy approach to fix it/SRU09:18
tseliotseb128: good. I'll prepare the merge request then09:18
seb128tseliot, thanks09:18
didrocksrunning time!10:07
seb128didrocks, lunch time you mean?10:09
didrocksseb128: you're soooo wrong :)10:11
larsudidrocks: along the coast?10:13
larsuI hear the coast is beautiful in the south of France10:13
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pp20Hello all. Does anyone know if it is possible to enable different colour tabs within nautlis? i.g. tab1 with home drive showing in default background colour, tab 2 with network drive showing in say red.10:58
pp20just so its easier to identify which location you are in.10:58
pp20or indeed if there is an application that does this for nautilus or if any other file manager has this customisation feature.11:00
didrockslarsu: I will just answer that: "tsssssssssssssssss"11:37
seb128didrocks, 1h20 only? see you should do every other day ;-)11:38
didrocksseb128: indeed, I was with Julie as well, which added me ~1km to my usual run11:39
didrocks(as I run force and back)11:39
didrocksbut she only did the first lap11:39
seb128lol11:39
seb128how long is one park circle?11:40
didrocks4kms11:40
seb128seems like a good distance, 1 for beginner, 2 for experienced ones ;-)11:41
didrocksexactly11:41
didrocksknowing that I'm making some variations for the second laps11:42
didrocksbeing along the "coast" of the lake11:42
seb128lol11:42
didrockssee yeah, larsu wasn't that wrong :)11:42
seb128yeah, of course not ;-)11:42
didrocksand it's 4kms as well :)11:42
seb128it seems like you are up for the same crazyness than us this w.e11:42
seb128but you don't run during w.e right?11:43
didrocksI don't! rest days :)11:43
seb128good11:43
didrocks"than us this w.e" <- ?11:43
seb128though monday/tuesday next week are the same11:43
seb128weather11:43
seb128they forecast 33°C11:43
didrocksoh waow11:43
seb128well 32°C on saturday11:43
didrocksindeed11:43
didrocksseeing that11:44
seb128that starts to be on my "avoid going in the pick of the day"11:44
seb128well, if you don't like melting at least11:44
didrocksyeah, not sure I'll plan that. Julie can only during lunch time :/11:44
didrocks(but it will be only 2 or 3 times a week)11:44
didrockslet's see how it goes…11:44
seb128yeah11:45
seb128let's see if she manages to keep up with it every day as well ;-)11:45
didrockslet's see ;)11:45
seb128didrocks, btw, don't forget, meeting for you today ;-)11:46
didrocksseb128: yeah, however, the time desrt live type everything, I'll be able to prepare my part :)11:46
seb128lol11:47
desrtdidrocks: see?  i'm doing you a faovur, really11:47
didrocksI won't deny it :)11:47
didrocksok, shower time :)11:48
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didrockssad, httpsimpleserver means that I have to copy the translate_path() code to override it and avoid it using os.getcwd()12:35
didrocks(when running tests against a mock server as I want in a thread to run it from the directory I choose without using os.chdir())12:36
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kenvandinelarsu, i have a click hook that is using gsettings-qt, sometimes when it exits the changes haven't been saved in gsettings13:22
kenvandinelarsu, the hook is a QCoreApplication, and all my calls to update the values are sync13:23
kenvandinelarsu, if i add a timeout to call quit, it seems fine13:23
kenvandinelarsu, i'm wondering if it is something to do with my own event loop not processing everything... or maybe the gsettings-qt destructor doesn't ensure it's saved?13:24
larsukenvandine: pretty sure it's calling g_settings_sync() on exit, but let me check13:32
larsukenvandine: ah it's not, but it drops the last ref13:34
larsudesrt: do I have to call g_settings_sync() to ensure settings are saved before dropping the last ref to the GSettings object?13:35
kenvandineWrites made to a GSettings are handled asynchronously. For this reason, it is very unlikely that the changes have it to disk by the time g_settings_set() returns.13:35
kenvandinefrom the docs13:35
larsuright, this is by design13:35
larsubut of course, we want to sync before exiting13:35
kenvandineyeah13:35
* larsu probably thought destroying the object took care of that13:36
kenvandineit probably should13:37
kenvandinelarsu, want me to try it and propose a branch?13:40
larsukenvandine: I just did https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/gsettings-qt/sync-on-destroy13:41
kenvandinecool13:41
larsulet me know if it works13:41
larsuI'll talk to desrt once he's back13:41
kenvandinei'll verify it resolves my problem, but i'm pretty sure it will13:41
kenvandinelarsu, doesn't build :)13:42
kenvandineqgsettings.cpp:58:36: error: too many arguments to function ‘void g_settings_sync()’13:43
kenvandineit takes no args13:43
larsukenvandine: blargh, of course13:44
* larsu pushes13:44
larsukenvandine: pushed13:44
desrtlarsu: no.13:49
desrtlarsu: g_settings_sync() is only for the case where the app is about to quit13:49
desrtit's because of how gdbus does the actual sending of messages in the thread -- we need to block until that's taken care of13:49
larsudesrt: thanks. That fix is correct then13:49
larsukenvandine: ^^13:51
kenvandinethx13:51
desrtthis is slightly stupid, honestly...13:52
desrtwould be nice if we didn't have to worry about that sort of thing13:52
desrtbut alas13:52
kenvandinelarsu, confirmed, that fixes my problem14:00
kenvandinethx!14:00
kenvandinelarsu, can you propose your branch?14:07
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larsukenvandine: oops of course: https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/gsettings-qt/sync-on-destroy/+merge/22189514:48
kenvandinelarsu, thx, approved :)14:49
kenvandinewhat's the landing process for gsettings-qt?14:49
seb128train14:49
larsukenvandine: my process is "ask seb128"14:49
kenvandine:)14:50
larsuman, that guy is fast!14:50
larsuresponding pre-ping and all14:50
seb128lol14:50
larsuhe should be a manager!14:50
* seb128 hides14:50
kenvandinei could ask bfiller to include it in the content-hub silo he is  trying to get14:50
seb128hum, please don't14:50
kenvandineok14:50
seb128don't include bugfixes with other changes14:50
seb128it leads to issue14:50
larsuI agree14:50
seb128like people included fix with the split greeter work14:50
seb128and that turned out to be buggy, and they were talking reverting14:51
kenvandineit gets really hard when there is a pile of stuff in a silo14:51
seb128including the unrelated fixes14:51
seb128because that was part of the changeset14:51
seb128hum, it's meeting time!15:30
seb128qengho, tkamppeter, desrt, attente, larsu, KombuchaKip, didrocks: hey, it's meeting time!15:31
didrockshey o/15:31
desrtdidrocks: nice to see you.....15:31
desrt.....at the end of the list ;)15:31
didrocksdesrt: :p15:31
seb128I hope everybody made it back safely15:31
seb128lol15:31
* desrt passes a chocolatine15:31
desrtseb128: no mention of exploding diving equipment in any airports that i visited :)15:32
* didrocks runs out if desrt starts with extreme bad examples :)15:32
seb128desrt, tsss15:32
seb128ok, let's get started15:32
seb128qengho, hey15:32
seb128no qengho I guess?15:33
seb128tkamppeter, hey15:33
tkamppeter- ghostscript: Fixed endianess problems of 16-bit PWG Raster output in15:33
tkamppeter  Ghostscript.15:33
tkamppeter- cups-filters: Fixed endianess for 16-bit PWG Raster input in rastertopdf.15:33
tkamppeter- Mentoring of GSoC students15:33
tkamppeter- Bugs.15:33
seb128tkamppeter, thanks15:34
desrtbjorn is missing today?15:34
seb128yes, he took some vac days and is staying in Malta for the week15:34
desrtah.  right :)15:34
seb128Laney is off as well15:34
seb128desrt, so your turn ;-)15:34
desrtso robert and i wrote a backend for a random display server for some minor toolkit that nobody heard of before15:35
FJKong_afkseb128: hi I am late for this15:35
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desrtand i also did some glib chasing on performance issues (atomic operations, locks) and some other things (object type checks, etc)15:36
seb128FJKong, hey, no worry, we do status updates in turn, it's not your turn yet15:36
desrtalso got mir in upstream jhbuild -- patch merged as of late last week15:36
larsuhow is desrt on #3?15:36
desrtlarsu: no björn or iain15:36
larsucraziness. Enjoy your front seat!15:36
seb128and mlankhorst changed team15:36
seb128(he's in kernel land now)15:37
larsudesrt: also, 10 German points for using the proper umlaut15:37
* desrt will make a point of learning the name of a new german state today15:37
desrtuh... next?15:37
seb128for those who want to test the previously mentioned backend, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/gtk-mir has packages15:37
seb128we did demo gedit running on Mir with those15:38
desrti still didn't manage to get xchat working15:38
seb128(you need to hand forge a .desktop to be able to run it from the unity8 apps lens though)15:38
desrtsomething very strange is going on there with keyboard focus15:38
desrtso uh.... next15:39
seb128"next" means you are done?15:40
desrtyes15:40
seb128sorry, didn't parse that correctly15:40
seb128desrt, thanks ;-)15:40
seb128attente, hey15:40
desrt<eof/> :)15:40
attenteseb128: hey15:40
attentei spent some time trying to get https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/unity-gtk-module/1208019-2/+merge/216964 working without patching gtk, but didn't work, so i just proposed a distro patch just a while ago15:40
attentestarted some fcitx transition work for unity, uploaded u-c-c package to https://launchpad.net/~fcitx-team/+archive/fcitx-transition15:40
attentei'm off from tomorrow till next tuesday15:40
attenteeof15:40
desrtattente: going somewhere nice?15:41
seb128attente, thanks, enjoy the days off!15:41
larsuattente: enjoy!15:41
attentethanks guys :) (iceland with my brother)15:41
desrtenjoy!15:42
larsunice!15:42
seb128attente, I'm going to have a look to those patches after the meeting, but that can wait next week in any case15:42
seb128enjoy the vacs!15:42
seb128larsu, your turn15:43
larsu- updated rishi's transparency patch to make sure only the terminal widget is transparent15:43
larsu- first round of gtk 3.12 fixes: * restore traditional title bars on dialogs (but keep them working in GNOME) * restore sane button layout in message dialogs15:43
larsu- started working on deprecating unico, but it seems it will be less work just to keep it (it's a very small codebase; and upstream doesn't allow filling the focus rectangle from css)15:43
larsu- had a look at removing background hacks in the theme, but that's not possible either without changes to o-s (can we drop that this cycle?)15:43
larsu- tried to keep MacSlow & friends from adding another hint for snap-decisions to libnotify15:43
larsu</week>15:43
desrtlarsu: thuringia sounds like the most boring place on earth...15:44
larsudesrt: it's quite nice there nature-wise15:44
seb128(nice try)15:44
* larsu is missing something?15:44
seb128"changes to o-s (can we drop that this cycle?)"15:44
* desrt tried to change the subject quickly :)15:44
larsuoh haha15:44
larsuseb128: that was just trolling of course15:45
larsubut I think we don't need to put any extra days into that15:45
larsuwhat we have now with the bg stuff seems to work fine15:45
larsuI don't want to go through another round of testing all the apps15:45
seb128right15:45
larsudo we have them in unity8 yet?15:46
seb128larsu, the gtk 3.12 changes are in the next items on my list, I'm probably going to get to that tomorrow15:46
seb128what, o-s?15:46
seb128I'm not even sure they are going to be part of unity8, we didn't get design input on that15:46
larsuoky15:47
larsuokay15:47
seb128larsu, thanks15:48
seb128KombuchaKip, hey, there? any update?15:48
desrtseb128: your turn, it seems15:49
desrt*cough*15:49
seb128desrt, not yet15:49
seb128didrocks, hey!15:49
desrtseb128: nooooo15:49
didrocks* finish plans on how the android developer story will be15:49
didrocks* did some exploration of using go for the ubuntu developer tools center. Finally, started to shape it in python due to lack of bindings we would need and quicker iteration15:49
didrocks* put basic test framework in place and layout project convention15:49
didrocks* will still need to discuss more on the juju/cloud developers part15:49
didrocksdone15:49
seb128desrt, lol15:49
desrtdidrocks: how's the new job so far?15:50
seb128didrocks, thanks, and welcome back to our side of the desktop team ;-)15:50
didrocksdesrt: sounds good, got the time to do things properly back! :)15:50
didrocksthanks seb128!15:50
didrockss/back//15:50
seb128FJKong, hey, welcome to our meetings! do you want to share with the team?15:51
FJKongseb128: hey15:51
FJKongseb128: I committed patch for encrypt sogou skin last week15:51
FJKongseb128: fixed some bugs for sogou-qimpanel15:52
FJKongseb128: all about sogou input method project15:53
FJKongseb128: that's it15:53
seb128FJKong, thanks15:54
seb128ok, my turn15:54
seb128 * worked on the unity8 desktop session and ubuntu-desktop-next iso (get the iso to work, some bugfixes to have the click lens working, tested gtk-mir backend)15:54
seb128 * updated gtk3 in utopic15:54
seb128 * some sponsoring15:54
seb128 * trusty SRUs (evince and indicator-printers fixes, thanks larsu, gnome-sudoku)15:54
seb128 * started reviewing the ubuntu-system-settings queue15:54
seb128</week>15:54
larsuthanks for having a look at those!15:54
seb128larsu, yw, sorry for letting them in the review queue for a while15:54
larsuno worries15:54
seb128ok, any other topic/questions/...?15:56
seb128seems not, let's wrap then!15:56
seb128thanks everyone15:56
didrocksthanks!15:56
FJKongthanks15:57
larsuthanks!15:58
didrocksok, continuing working a little bit offline. Meanwhile, see you tomorrow guys!16:58
seb128didrocks, night!16:59
seb128or good evening rather ;-)16:59
didrocksthanks, you too!16:59
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seb128kenvandine, hey17:23
kenvandinehey seb12817:24
seb128kenvandine, is https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-system-settings/new_header/+merge/221420 supposed to work with the current uitk version?17:24
kenvandineseb128, yes17:26
seb128kenvandine, oh, it needs newer ubuntu-ui-toolkit-theme17:26
seb128should we update the depends?17:26
kenvandinethe matching change for ussoa already landed17:26
kenvandineah... hadn't thought about that :)17:26
kenvandineno idea what version it needs though17:27
seb128(I'm testing on trusty since that's what I'm running)17:27
seb128kenvandine, let's not bother, it runs fine on the old version, just lacks that one button17:28
kenvandine:)17:28
seb128kenvandine, thanks17:28
kenvandinenp17:28
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stgraberLaney: hey there, are you guys actually happy with a tracker 0.16.2 to 0.16.4 SRU in trusty? I've got one in the queue and there's an MRE covering it but that's a massive diff so just want to make sure one of you guys made sure it's sane and won't break stuff.20:57
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