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diddledan_humtetum01:32
Monotokodedumdedum02:40
mappshmm04:26
daftykinshey mapps05:24
daftykinsCrucial's new MX100 512GB SSD is soooo cheap :O05:26
MooDoomoening all05:43
ali1234daftykins: yes i've been waiting for those to be released05:46
MooDoohow cheap is cheap05:47
ali1234yes, how cheap are they?05:47
ali1234i heard sub $0.50/gb05:47
MooDoo16705:48
daftykinswell, i only know in VAT free land terms05:48
daftykinshttp://uk.crucial.com/gbr/en/ssd05:49
ali1234wow, 256GB is £8005:49
daftykinsgooooo05:49
daftykinsi've got a 512GB in the cart at £133 delivered05:49
daftykinssooooo tempted05:49
ali1234it's £166 inc vat from scan05:50
ali1234138 without05:50
ali1234pre order though05:50
ali1234that really is very cheap indeed05:51
daftykinsindeed05:51
daftykinsthe 256GB has worse write speeds, but the 512GB looks ace05:51
daftykinsdue to die parallelism05:52
daftykinsnaturally05:52
ali1234yeah looks like they've gone back to the 128 bit chips05:52
ali1234so this is really somewhere between the M500 and the M55005:52
ali1234except cheaper than either05:52
daftykinshttp://www.anandtech.com/show/8066/crucial-mx100-256gb-512gb-review05:53
daftykinsmy laptop is the only thing i have with 6Gb SATA, it already has a crucial m4 256GB05:54
ali1234yeah that review pretty much confirms it05:54
daftykinsan excellent buy imo05:55
ali1234yeah seems like it out performs even the M55005:58
mappshey daftykins06:00
mappsup early or no sleep?06:00
mappsjust watched the new 24:D06:00
daftykinsmmm slept maybe 3.5hrs, then the cat miaowed and i've just been reading articles since XD06:00
mappsheh06:00
mappsi slept like 12-3am ..fell asleep watching tv06:01
mappsso only need another 3/4 more :)06:01
daftykinshaha06:02
daftykinsi'm too tight for RM special delivery06:03
daftykinseveryone knows the waiting is the best bit06:03
mapps:D06:08
mappsfinally got all of Oz downloaded06:08
daftykinshmm i remember seeing tiny bits of that occasionally06:09
daftykinsmostly just remember the dreds dude in the wheelchair06:09
mappsya i emember bits used to be on chan4 late when i was quite young06:10
daftykinssame :>06:10
mappsso now another series to watch..56 eps..so 2 weeks and il have finished it06:10
mapps;p06:10
daftykinsChannel 4 got some pretty decent stuff back in the day06:10
daftykinsi just finished Star Trek DS9 at long last06:11
mappsive been watching the bear grylls island thing on chan406:11
mappsand its kinda interesting but it irritates me when they say 'we need to find food else we'll be left to die' and bear says 'if they dont find food they wont make it'06:11
mappsutter nonsense06:11
mappsno way theyd be left to die and rot away06:11
daftykinsheh ;)06:12
mappsu seen it?06:12
daftykinsmaybe they mean 'make it until the restaurant trip later'06:12
mappsi mean seriously..if they all sat there and didnt search for food..you believe they'd be left to die?06:12
daftykinsnah i don't have broadcast06:12
mappslike lol no way06:12
mappshahaha yea06:12
mappslike when he was found to be staying in hotels overnight06:12
daftykinsXD i think i had heard about that guys shenanigans06:13
daftykinslike the "deep outback" aussie locations that were just beside main roads06:13
mappslol06:13
mappswatched all 6 eps of cuckoo yesterday706:14
mappsdont know how i missed it when it was on tv..bbc show..adam samberg in it06:14
mapps280mb for normal 24 ep..1,23gb for 720p06:18
mappsheh06:18
daftykinsonly 720p ;)06:19
daftykinsthere we go, one drive ordered!06:19
daftykinsi had to go and check my CVV code, crikey06:19
ali1234mapps: they'd not be allowed on TV if they did that, which is worse than being dead06:56
Myrttido I get any benefit if I go to doctors and ask for allergy meds on prescription vs. going to pharmacy and getting my stuff from there?07:00
MooDooMyrtti: are you able to get prescription meds for free or would you still have to pay?07:01
Myrttiwould have to pay07:01
TheOpenSourcererDepends if you have any state benfits?07:01
MooDooprobably easier just to walk to the nearest chemists and get them there then07:01
MyrttiI assume. I'm not under 18, pregnant, unemployed or disabled07:01
TheOpenSourcererPregnant yes.07:01
TheOpenSourcererI think you should get prescriptions free shouldn't you?07:02
TheOpenSourcererhttp://www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/941.aspx?CategoryID=68&SubCategoryID=161#close07:02
TheOpenSourcererCongratulations by the way :-D07:03
TheOpenSourcererAhh. Sorry - misread that whole sentence ;-) lol07:03
Myrtti:-D07:03
Myrttihmm.07:03
Myrttibut levocetirizine is only on prescription07:03
Myrttiso if I'd want that, I'd need a prescription07:04
TheOpenSourcererYeah - My son has allergies, he gets cetirizine07:05
Myrttion the other hand I could try loratadine07:05
Myrttior I could just suffer until noon when my meeting is over and then smack myself with the normal cetirizine and try to fight the sleep then07:06
Myrttibecause the normal stuff I do have07:06
TheOpenSourcererYou can buy Piriton over the counter though.07:07
Myrttiyeah.07:07
TheOpenSourcererLods on here: http://www.chemistdirect.co.uk/healthcare/allergies/cat-876?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=antihistamine&utm_campaign=EN+|+Medicine+|+Hayfever+%26+Allergy&utm_content=slfj6OaCl|dc_pcrid_26314622325_kword_antihistamine_match_e_plid_07:07
TheOpenSourcerers\Lods\Loads07:07
Myrttinot tried that tho07:07
Myrttiin any case, it'll have to wait until noon07:07
Myrttiand if I'm going to venture out to get something, I need to check my bike tyres07:08
dwatkinsmoin moin07:30
Myrttilooks like I'll have the sleepi^Wallergy medicine now :-| can't take the sneezing anymore07:31
dwatkinstoo much pepper in the soup07:33
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Chimborazo Day! :-D07:47
MooDoomorning JamesTait07:48
JamesTaitMooDoo, o/07:52
dwatkins"Chimborazo is a currently inactive stratovolcano in the Cordillera Occidental range of the Andes" - should we expect it to start erupting?07:53
JamesTaitLet's hope not. ;)07:58
bashrcmorning08:00
Myrttiand half an hour later I feel so much better.08:00
Myrttinice.08:00
DJonesI thought "Chimborazo Day" was going to be something to do with the patio wood burners that seem to be all the rage now08:00
diploMorning all08:06
BigRedS_Goood Morning!08:07
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foobarryis cetizirine drowsy-making?08:21
foobarryhad a discussion with someone about it. i took it for a few days and could hardly stay awake08:21
foobarryOTOH loratadine is fine but i'm unsure if it actually works08:22
popeyhttp://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/cdp/member-reviews/A1SM813W6H36YA08:28
foobarryi got taken in by the rocky bar rebranding. i thought they were new flavours :(08:34
foobarryrugged chocolate and molten caramel are the same old biscuit08:34
Myrttifoobarry: well I'm desperate at this point and I don't care anymore if I fall asleep08:39
foobarryi have a nose torch08:40
Myrttiatleast I've got freshly washed cloth hankies08:40
foobarryseems to help more/as much as anything else i take08:40
MyrttiI don't know where mine is and if I've got batteries for it08:40
Myrttiit's somewhere in the moving boxes I think08:40
Myrttiwhich - no clue08:40
foobarrywhere have you moved to?08:44
MyrttiUK08:44
Myrtti:-D08:44
foobarryand your hayfever exploded? :(08:45
Myrttithis happens whenever there's hay in bloom no matter which country08:45
popeyoh, you're in the UK now?08:45
foobarryUKIP don't like your type08:45
popeyawesome08:45
Myrttipopey: yeah, officially for a month now08:45
Myrttimy stuff has been here since early March but we haven't really a place for three boxes of books and two boxes of random junk, so the stuff is still in moving boxes08:46
foobarryi don't think my book swill ever be unpacked again08:47
foobarryi got a "best of" bookcase08:47
foobarryand the rest in the loft08:47
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:58
MooDoomorning brobostigon08:58
brobostigonmorning MooDoo08:59
twagerCan anyone recommend a portable device that will play music from usb sticks ?09:21
funkyHatA laptop :(09:26
funkyHatOh oh, an android device which supports USB OTG09:27
popeyhttp://www.funstock.co.uk/retron-5  wat!09:29
twagerpopey thanks for the reply but the item is out of stock. Could I achieve my aim using a Raspberry pie?09:35
Laneymmm pie09:35
popeytwager: wasn't aimed at you ☻09:41
ali1234wow, barclays have just increased the effective interest rate on agreed overdrafts by 100x10:06
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Armag3dd0n24sup10:35
MooDoosky10:35
MooDoobitter?  tea?10:35
MooDoo;)10:35
dvrrHi....everyone11:10
popeyhi11:11
Armag3dd0n24wut??? :p11:13
Myrttigod I hate allergy season11:13
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bigcalmGood morning peeps :)11:23
ali1234is it possible for a user to have more than one home directory?11:24
ali1234let's say there's a piece of proprietary software that i want to run11:25
ali1234let's call it "bleam"11:25
ali1234i know it's going to download hundreds of gigabytes of stuff and save it in my home directory11:25
ali1234i don't want it to do that. i want it to store that stuff somewhere else, so that if i wipe my home directory i don't have to download all that stuff again11:26
Myrttienv HOME=/foobar/wibble; export blalala, run?11:26
ali1234is that guaranteed to work though?11:26
* Myrtti pulls a rabbit out her hat11:26
ali1234what if "bleam" uses some syscall to get the user homedir?11:26
MartijnVdSthere's a syscall for that?!11:27
MartijnVdS$HOME is a convention (made by the passwd file) right.. not forced by the kernel?11:27
ali1234i dunno, that's why i'm asking :)11:27
ali1234what sets $HOME?11:28
ali1234also, what about $XAUTHORITY?11:29
shaunoI believe the login process sets $HOME11:31
ali1234i guess another way to put this question is how can i have one steam install shared between multiple homedirs?11:31
ali1234i mean "bleam"11:31
ali1234like a "portable" configuration11:32
directhexali1234, steam supports an arbitrary number of library folders. you can add an arbitrary empty folder as a library, and games will be installed there instead of the default11:34
ali1234okay, and if i do that, and then delete my entire home folder and redownload and reinstall steam, how do i make it see the games i still have? and what about all my saves etc?11:35
directhexyou re-add that library folder, and saves are a per-game thing. games using steam cloud should sync saves from the net, but not all games use steam cloud11:35
ali1234right, hence why i thought changing $HOME would be a good idea11:36
ali1234because then all things spawned by steam would save in the fake-home11:36
ali1234and i could just back that up11:36
ali1234i would just run the whole thing under a different user, but then i'd have xauth problems and who knows what else...11:37
directhexit might work. but you're sailing a long way from supported configurations11:38
ali1234perhaps it could be done with chroot11:46
dvrrhow to  configure  "ldap server"  client side  ubuntu & windows 7 authentication  please guide me11:46
ali1234mount -o bind / /tmp/fakeroot; mount -o bind /home/fakehome /tmp/fakeroot/home/al; chroot /tmp/fakeroot steam11:47
dvrrMooDoo11:48
Myrttihttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-2767771212:07
Myrtti"Pixar to give away 'Toy Story' 3D RenderMan software "12:07
Myrtti(via gordonjcp)12:07
ali1234looks like simply changing $HOME might just work...12:09
MooDooMyrtti: wow12:22
Myrtticomments from elsewhere "that's only the renderer though, if they were giving out the animator (Presto), I'd be 100x more interested"12:23
MooDooMyrtti: http://renderman.pixar.com/view/2594612:24
ali1234is it common for games that supposedly support cloud sync to have it just not work at all on linux?12:48
MooDoopah facebook12:48
dwatkinsFacebook for cloud sync, that's a good idea...12:50
MooDoodwatkins: no just moaning about it12:53
dwatkinsMooDoo: I guessed as much, but it's crazy enough that it might just work. Perhaps better to use Google Drive or something, mind.13:04
* dwatkins spent an hour yesterday watching videos about Google's "Project Loon", which also sounds utterly insane, but appears to work to provide internets to rural areas13:08
diploThat the balloon one dwatkins ?13:10
dwatkinsyeah, diplo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m96tYpEk1Ao&list=UU85vZzdL-PEn_5hl8_FDHoA&index=413:10
diploWell an update to that13:10
diplohttp://www.theverge.com/2014/6/2/5771322/google-reportedly-launching-180-satellites-for-worldwide-internet13:10
dwatkinsyeah, reading about the satellites was what made me look up Project Loon's progress13:10
diploI'm guessing Loon may be dropped if they do that13:10
diploIs that video a new one ?13:11
diplonah watched that one :)13:11
shaunothe 180 satellites one sounds silly :/13:12
dwatkinsdiplo: there are 17 in the set, but they're mostly from last year, I think.13:12
dwatkinsMy guess is that the satellites will be for different scenarios than home use.13:13
diploI've probably watched most of them then, I was quite interested in the beginning :)13:13
shaunoI just hope they're not trying to jump on the picosat train13:17
dwatkinsLoon seems to be progressing well.13:27
ali1234my guess would be the satellites providing the backbone transport for the balloons?13:31
mapps;]13:31
dwatkinsgive them time, and they'll set this up on Mars, too...13:31
MyrttiI wonder would the catalogue order people understand if I'd put a sign on the door "don't waste your catalogues - we won't order anything from unsolicited catalogues"14:08
popeyyou get unsolicited catalogs!?14:11
MyrttiAvon, Betterware, Jamie at Home...14:12
Seekerif they understood, do you think they would listen?14:12
diploMyrtti, they never listen to me14:12
diploAlso, betterware etc change the delivery people so often they don't share that info14:13
MyrttiSeeker: well as I understand it, they lose money if I don't return the catalogue14:13
mappsyea i get that rubbish Myrtti14:13
Myrttiso if I put a note upfront telling them to not waste their money on trying to get us to order, they'd be better off14:13
mappsand it irritates me.so i dont even look at them so even if there was (unlikely) something i wanted i wont be ordering14:13
diploI also leave them outside the front door ( we don't use it very often ) and 3-4 weeks later they are still there waiting to be collected.14:14
Myrttiyeah well we tend to forget to do that :-/14:16
foobarrywhat sort of person buys from a catalogue?14:31
MartijnVdSfoobarry: argos14:33
MartijnVdSaliens14:33
Myrttiargos catalogue is a catalogue you in theory signed up for14:35
Myrttias is Nisbets, or Screwfix, or whatever14:35
foobarrywhen crashplan say they allow unlimited size backup , what do they mean?14:36
foobarryhttp://www.qxs.ch/2011/02/25/does-crashplan-really-offer-unlimted-storage/14:40
foobarrybasically if u have over ~200GB to back then you pay for seeded service14:42
popeyI quite like catalogs..14:44
popeyor the "laminated book of dreams" as Bill Bailey calls it14:44
ali1234inb4 popey gets signed up for every catalogue ever14:45
popeyhah14:46
foobarrypre internet days a lot of rude stuff was ordered via catalogue14:46
popeyi used to love flicking through the argos catalog as a kid14:46
foobarryor from back pages of viz14:46
foobarryargos is the christmas present canon14:46
popeyalso recall my first attempt at buying shareware was via a catalog14:46
foobarryme too14:49
foobarryused to buy acorn demo disks14:49
foobarryby brothers in arm14:49
foobarryhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VtnaGabyoc14:50
dwatkinswhen scrolling text was difficult15:00
bigcalmCating up on UUPC. S07E06 - Michael Meeks is quite a character16:05
popeyyeah16:06
bigcalmWere the 4 of you trying not to laugh during the interview?16:08
MartijnVdSI often skip interviews now.. they go on forever :(16:11
bigcalmI often skip them because the audio is poor16:15
popeythey go on for 15 minutes ☻16:17
popeywe time them16:17
MartijnVdSpopey: yeah but, somehow I like you guys talking/goofing around better somehow? :)16:19
popey16:23
shaunobah @ "rights restrictions".  I can listen to radio4 on the radio, but not on the internet (because they're broadcasting cricket)16:36
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