[00:00] <MohammadAG> the parent directory needed o+x
[00:00] <principe> goonna try that morph
[00:00] <MohammadAG> thanks Belisarius / jrib
[00:02] <m477> morph-: I think the fastest way will be reinstallation :P
[00:02] <principe> morph my keyboard is not on there
[00:02] <principe> its a k400r
[00:02] <m477> I have fresh OS
[00:03] <morph-> reinstall console-data principe
[00:03] <principe> how?
[00:04] <morph-> apt-get purge console-data
[00:04] <morph-> apt-get install console-data
[00:04] <principe> ok
[00:04] <principe> thanks
[00:04] <jrib> morph-: why?
[00:04] <morph-> he said dpkg-reconfigure wont work
[00:05] <jrib> morph-: i don't see where he said that; he just said his keyboard wasn't listed
[00:05] <morph-> yea he already did dpkg-reconfigure console-data
[00:05] <morph-> is what he said
[00:05] <morph-> [07:01:59 PM] <morph->	 u said u ran dpkg-reconfigure console-data?
[00:05] <morph-> [07:02:07 PM] <principe>	 yes
[00:05] <jrib> morph-: right, so why purge the package and reintsall now?  I don't see the point
[00:05] <morph-> if i remember right console-data prompts u about ur keyboard layout and stuff when u install it
[00:05] <principe> so i dont do this?
[00:05] <morph-> na its fine principe
[00:06] <morph-> go ahead
[00:06] <morph-> principe u probably will have to install install-keymap too
[00:06] <m477> can you tell me one more thing, is it legit to overwrite .kde .config files from 12.04 version to 14.04?
[00:07] <principe> ok i do it
[00:07] <morph-> Select keymap from full list
[00:07] <morph-> when u reinstall console-data
[00:08] <principe> ok
[00:08] <principe> oh there are more
[00:08] <principe> how do i know which one it is
[00:09] <morph-> what kinda keyboard did u say u had again
[00:10] <principe> french keyboard
[00:10] <principe> the shit one where you have to press shift to get numbers
[00:10] <principe> azerty
[00:10] <principe> its a logitech k400r
[00:11] <morph-> okay it'll be umm
[00:12] <morph-> sec
[00:12] <principe> thanks :)
[00:12] <principe> wait il take a pic
[00:13] <morph-> well principe
[00:13] <morph-> heres the problem
[00:13] <morph-> i cant read french
[00:13] <morph-> and most of my google searches are coming up in french
[00:13] <principe> what you googling for
[00:13] <principe> i can read it
[00:13] <morph-> azerty keyboard ubuntu
[00:13] <omber> Good day, Im on 14.04 LTS. I have a USB 3.0 HDD dock which I use to backup hard disks. A failing disk failed to automount so I pulled it out. Now the system refuses to talk to the dock outright. I've tried several different HDDs which do work but they do not show up. Any suggestions how to force redetection? I tried unpluggin the device.
[00:14] <morph-> http://krisreeves.com/things-that-should-be-easy/permanently-change-keyboard-layout-on-ubuntu-server-11-10/
[00:14] <morph-> looks like we're here
[00:14] <morph-> type
[00:14] <morph-> nano /etc/default/keyboard
[00:15] <syeekick> hey i wanted to point my new steam installation to another hard drive that is jampacked with games. /media/syee/5317649b-74c4-493b-85d8-ed3a812539e7/home/syee/.steam/steam/SteamApps/common    <<< that is my path, when i try to add it to steam it says the folder must be empty ... any input would be much obliged.
[00:15] <syeekick> so yeah i'd like to not have to download all my games again
[00:16] <morph-> logicd
[00:16] <syeekick> i keep findidng windows documentation on this problem but nothing for ubuntu
[00:16] <morph-> layout = fr
[00:16] <principe> GOT IT
[00:16] <morph-> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7576665/
[00:16] <principe> setxkbmap fr
[00:16] <pavlos> omber, can you look at dmesg and see why it does not want to mount it?
[00:16] <morph-> good deal
[00:17] <principe> but now how to make permanent
[00:17] <morph-> um
[00:17] <principe> lol
[00:17] <morph-> i think u run dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[00:17] <morph-> or
[00:17] <morph-> nano /etc/default/locale
[00:18] <ceibal> q
[00:18] <omber> pavlos: xhci_hcd 0000:04:00.0:  ERROR Transfer event TRB DMA ptr not part of current TD <- okay did not think to look there, let me google this and find out what is up
[00:18] <morph-> its funny now that I think about it principe I had this same problem a few weeks ago but my stfuf was stuck in french
[00:18] <principe> lol
[00:18] <principe> sorry to hear that
[00:19] <principe> ugh but if i do dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[00:19] <principe> my keyboard is still not there
[00:19] <morph-> nano /etc/default/locale
[00:19] <principe> i mean sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[00:19] <principe> wait
[00:19] <principe> i i change that will it be permanent
[00:20] <principe> as i SSH
[00:20] <morph-> yes
[00:20] <principe> from another pc and i get french keys
[00:20] <principe> other keyboard is US i think
[00:20] <principe> or UK
[00:20] <omber> yay kernel bugs
[00:20] <morph-> LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[00:20] <morph-> LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8
[00:20] <morph-> thats whats in mine
[00:20] <morph-> so change that to whatever ur stuff is
[00:20] <morph-> fr i guess
[00:21] <pavlos> omber, take a look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[00:21] <syeekick> how do i get my adress bar on my file manager to manually input directores?
[00:21] <morph-> are u from france principe
[00:22] <principe> no
[00:22] <pavlos> omber, see configuring automounting section
[00:22] <syeekick> like in windows u can click the address bar and edit the text
[00:22] <principe> from a very very small place next to it
[00:22] <principe> very very very small
[00:22] <morph-> whats the code?
[00:22] <morph-> im looking so i can see what u put after fr_
[00:22] <principe> code?
[00:22] <morph-> morroco?
[00:22] <morph-> cameroon?
[00:22] <EzeQL> hi, i just installed 14.04 on a new computer. Apps like dropbox and videolan are being loaded into the sidebar but no windows are shown. any hint?
[00:22] <principe> no san marino
[00:23] <m477> morph-: can you tell me one more thing, if it is no problem?
[00:24] <principe> dont worry morph
[00:24] <morph-> principe http://krisreeves.com/things-that-should-be-easy/permanently-change-keyboard-layout-on-ubuntu-server-11-10/
[00:24] <morph-> all the info u need should be there
[00:24] <morph-> i think u put fr in layout
[00:24] <principe> il issue the command on a needed basis
[00:24] <morph-> intl in variant
[00:24] <principe> thanks so much tho! real life saver!
[00:24] <morph-> well
[00:24] <morph-> u can also do this
[00:24] <morph-> do u use bash?
[00:24] <morph-> m477 whats up?
[00:24] <principe> yes
[00:24] <morph-> ok change ur bash rc
[00:25] <principe> oh
[00:25] <morph-> export LANG=fr.UTF-8
[00:25] <syeekick> ctrl + l solved
[00:25] <principe> i just add that line at the end?
[00:25] <morph-> yea in ~/.bashrc
[00:25] <principe> sweet
[00:25] <principe> thank you!!
[00:25] <morph-> export LC_ALL=fr.UTF-8
[00:25] <morph-> i think u use utf 8 and stuff
[00:25] <morph-> like mine is LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[00:26] <principe> ok i reboot
[00:26] <morph-> dont need to do that
[00:26] <morph-> but okay
[00:26] <m477> morph-: what will be result if I overwrite /etc/apt and /etc/default files from 12.04 kubuntu to the 14.04?
[00:26] <morph-> well
[00:27] <morph-> ur packages will be all fucked
[00:27] <morph-> from /etc/apt
[00:27] <EzeQL> hi, i just installed 14.04 on a new computer. Apps like dropbox and videolan are being loaded into the sidebar but no windows are shown. any hint?
[00:27] <m477> really?
[00:27] <morph-> no idea what u got in /etc/default
[00:27] <morph-> yes
[00:27] <morph-> can u take a screenshot EzeQL
[00:27] <morph-> not sure what u mean
[00:28] <morph-> why do u want to overwrite them m477 ?
[00:28] <adrian111> m477: copy /var/cache/apps if you want the downloaded apps
[00:28] <EzeQL> morph-, if i click on VLC icon or Dropbox icon, no app windows is shown, but the app seems to be loaded
[00:28] <morph-> is there something in particular u need?
[00:28] <m477> morph-: on other channel they told me to do so, as a backup of current system session
[00:29] <morph-> u misundestood or they were fucking with you
[00:29] <m477> morph-: to restore apps/setting /configs from old system
[00:29] <adrian111> m477: i'm no expert but it sounds stupid
[00:29] <morph-> they probably said to copy what you have over
[00:29] <morph-> not to overwrrite it though
[00:29] <morph-> overwrite*
[00:29] <morph-> so like instead of copying /etc/apt over to 14.04 as /etc/apt you copy it as /etc/apt.b
[00:29] <morph-> then you will have a reference
[00:29] <m477> oh so I just should copy them there?
[00:29] <Pici> morph-: please mind your language here
[00:29] <morph-> but no, dont overwrite ur new files
[00:30] <morph-> sorry Pici long day
[00:32] <EzeQL> wow, 14.04 feels horrible. Nothing works
[00:32] <omber> EzeQL: o_O
[00:32] <adrian111> EzeQL: try restarting
[00:32] <EzeQL> taskmanager wont open!
[00:32] <omber> EzeQL: upgraded two systems from 13.10 to 14.04 without issues
[00:32] <EzeQL> i did a clean installation
[00:32] <morph-> EzeQL open up terminal and type htop
[00:33]  * omber thinks EzeQL is trolling
[00:33] <morph-> unity might just be too resource heavy
[00:34] <EzeQL> omber, i dont have any time to waste.
[00:34] <EzeQL> morph-, already installed and opened htop, now what should i check?
[00:35] <morph-> show me a screenshot
[00:35] <morph-> of htop
[00:35] <EzeQL> ok. sec plz
[00:35] <MarioMey> Hola gente.
[00:36] <MarioMey> ¿Cómo hago para encontrar algo dentro de unos archivos de texto (.py), pero que me diga en qué archivo se encuentra?
[00:36] <pavlos> !es | MarioMey
[00:36] <MarioMey> pavlos: Sorry! I thought I typed ubuntu-es...
[00:37] <omber> pavlos: I think the xhci driver does not like my PCs motherboard/USB controller, the thing works flawlessly with my laptop so thats good enough
[00:37] <MarioMey> Well... How I found a .py file that has some specific text inside it?
[00:37] <monkey> Trying to set up a server via DigitalOcean, OpenVPN, and ssh to run TCP on port 443 but i dont know where to start, can someone help? I have also already set up my droplet for DigitalOcean
[00:37] <MarioMey> I want to know in which file is that text.
[00:37] <morph-> nano whatever.py
[00:37] <morph-> or cat whatever.py
[00:38] <pavlos> omber, look at dot files, they may hinder the xhci driver from automounting
[00:38] <omber> MarioMey: grep -r 'text goes here'
[00:38] <EzeQL> morph-, something odd is happening, when i took the screenshot, apps appear on the file
[00:38] <morph-> monkey https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-install-openvpn-access-server-on-ubuntu-12-04
[00:38] <omber> MarioMey: provide top level path from which to start search eg.  /
[00:38] <EzeQL> so there is something odd with the gui manager
[00:39] <MarioMey> Thanks, omber.
[00:39] <omber> pavlos: after reboot, the drive drops in and out with entirely different set of errors but it mounted instantly without issues on laptop
[00:39] <omber> morph- I think Mario is looking for a file that has particular text in it
[00:39] <EzeQL> there sseems to be like two desktops, is that activated by default? how to switch from desk1 to desk 2?
[00:40] <omber> EzeQL: ctrl+alt+left or right arrow if the desktops are oriented side by side, or up down if they are veritically arranged
[00:40] <pavlos> omber, what's the diff between your pc and your laptop? do they run same ubuntu? do an update upgrade and retest
[00:40] <adrian111> EzeQL: are you using a LCD screen hooked up to the laptop/desktop?
[00:40] <EzeQL> adrian111, yes !
[00:40] <omber> pavlos: yes both identical versions of ubuntu, the difference PC is custom built on Gigabyte mobo, laptop is a ThinkPad
[00:41] <adrian111> happens to me when i use the screen.
[00:41] <adrian111> hit the button that switches between them and the apps will appear.
[00:41] <EzeQL> adrian111, where is that button?
[00:41] <adrian111> it should be like a function key, like function + f8
[00:42] <adrian111> (thats on my dell, on my hp it is f4)
[00:42] <pavlos> omber, run a dmesg and grep for errors in usb devices. Unless the mobo usb connector is dead, I dont see why it would not mount.
[00:42] <EzeQL> adrian111, i am on a desktop computer
[00:42] <adrian111> hmmm
[00:43] <adrian111> try to right click
[00:43] <EzeQL> here is the screenshot: postimg.org/image/qvhed2bjd/full
[00:43] <adrian111> and go to change desktop background
[00:43] <adrian111> EzeQL: i got this trust me ;)
[00:43] <m477> morph-: yea right, but how the system will  know to search for it in  /etc/apt.b ?
[00:43] <morph-> thats for your reference
[00:43] <adrian111> go there and click on settings > display
[00:43] <morph-> not the systems
[00:44] <adrian111> that's where you can fix everything, you have to switch off the desktop display, probably both are turned on right now
[00:44] <EzeQL> adrian111, thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[00:44] <adrian111> did it work?
[00:44] <EzeQL> yes!
[00:44] <adrian111> ok cool
[00:44] <m477> morph-: the .kde file from/home  old system should I also copy as other file?
[00:45] <morph-> m477 i dunno what ur doing bro
[00:45] <m477> to restore some configurations
[00:45] <morph-> i dunno anything about kde either
[00:45] <EzeQL> this is quite odd! some apps will go on desktop 1 by default and some will go to desktop2 . my LCD is turned off. I would never figure this out
[00:45] <adrian111> are the icons on the screen (unity launcher) and upper bar all ok?
[00:46] <EzeQL> restating now, all still feels buggy and slow
[00:46] <adrian111> (cuz you can make a custom resolution to fit your screen if you want)
[00:47] <adrian111> mine wasnt showing the top bar and part of the icons werent showing
[00:47] <x0auser> hey guys, i got the dell optiplex 390, the 12.04 will be good ? apparently it has been awarded the status of Certified for Ubuntu.
[00:48] <Neo31> Hello folks. I have a raid on sda2 and sdb2. Over this raid i have lvm2 encrypted with luks. /dev shows md127 and md/hummer.matrix\:0 which is the encrypted lvm2 please? Chatting from mobile phone
[00:48] <pavlos> x0auser, why not 14.04?
[00:49] <m477> morph-: I backup'ed from 12.04 /home files like .mozilla .config to save part of system session, and now I installed 14.04 and I want to copy it again to new /home file
[00:49] <EzeQL> adrian111,  thanks again
[00:49] <EzeQL> morph-, thanks.
[00:49] <EzeQL> omber, thanks =)
[00:49] <morph-> u get it EzeQL ?
[00:49] <x0auser> pavlos: honestly i han't idea.. you this that Tahr will be better than precise on this machine?
[00:50] <m477> morph-: do you understand?
[00:50] <morph-> yea
[00:50] <x0auser> think*
[00:50] <morph-> um
[00:50] <EzeQL> yes, it was the hdmi connected display. some apps went to desk1 and some to desk2.
[00:50] <morph-> u can probably copy over ur config files like that
[00:50] <morph-> but dont replace anything in /etc
[00:50] <pavlos> x0auser, well, the 390 runs an i5 so I would go for 14.04 How much ram?
[00:50] <m477> morph-: and I am asking if is it legit
[00:51] <morph-> which files exactly m477 and i'll telll ya
[00:51] <morph-> i dont wanna say "it's fine" and then you go overwrite /etc/fstab
[00:52] <m477> morph-: from /home it is .kde .mozilla .config
[00:52] <morph-> x0auser if u are worried about performacne just get xubuntu instead of ubuntu
[00:52] <m477> morph-: and from /etc/apt and default
[00:52] <morph-> no
[00:53] <morph-> leave /etc/apt and /etc/default alone
[00:53] <morph-> dont mess with anything in /etc
[00:53] <TheTick900> hi
[00:53] <x0auser> pavlos, 390 comes with i3 2120 @3.30ghz and 2 go of ram, but i added 4 go ; so i have 6 go now of ram
[00:54] <pavlos> x0auser, I think 14.04 would run fine but as morph- suggested, you can also try xubuntu.
[00:55] <m477> morph-: I have been told that it can restore my old repo/app? which will match the version
[00:55] <m477> but ok
[00:55] <Reptilia> How do i run java simulations under Linux? Which software should i download? Thanks in advance.
[00:56] <Reptilia> the extension is .jnlp
[00:56] <x0auser> pavlos, 14.04 or the 12.04 version of xubuntu?
[00:56] <morph-> if you replace /etc/apt then you are telling ubuntu thatthe packages it can get are 12.04
[00:57] <morph-> because /etc/apt/sources.list right now for you is going to be 12.04 repo's
[00:57] <pavlos> x0auser, xubuntu 14.04
[00:57] <m477> morph-: but what if I add them
[00:57] <m477> not overwrite
[00:57] <pavlos> x0auser, http://xubuntu.org/news/tag/14-04/
[00:58] <m477> It will also crashe the system?
[00:59] <x0auser> thank you pavlos, you too morph-
[00:59] <pavlos> np
[00:59] <morph-> yup
[00:59] <morph-> have a good one
[01:03] <creyc> im sure this makes perfect sense to people smarter than i but is there still a wubi.exe install option, and why can't i find it on ubuntu.com?
[01:05] <pavlos> creyc, http://askubuntu.com/questions/449486/windows-installer-for-ubuntu-14-04-lts-onwards
[01:06] <creyc> oh I dont feel so bad!
[01:06] <creyc> looks like lots of people confused by this
[01:06] <x0auser> and it's normal to install the amd64 version on intel i3 ? :/
[01:07] <pavlos> amd64 denotes 64 bit install
[01:09] <m477> is it good way to encrypt partitions during installation by creating' physical volume for encryption’ or better is it do it latter?
[01:10] <m477> is there any significant difference?
[01:13] <ardan_> what's the difference between sbin and bin ?
[01:13] <godmachine81> ardan_:: secure bin (root) and bin
[01:14] <ardan_> gotcha
[01:14] <godmachine81> ardan_:: sbin is typically for superuser privs
[01:14] <ardan_> bin is for binaries/applications. should my scripts go in there, too?
[01:14] <godmachine81> bin is like a public executable area
[01:14] <godmachine81> i'd probably use /usr/local/bin
[01:14] <godmachine81> for custom bins
[01:14] <godmachine81> keep /bin and /usr/bin managed by the OS
[01:14] <ardan_> yeah, that's where they are.
[01:15] <ardan_> /usr/local/bin
[01:15] <godmachine81> just make sure /usr/local/bin is part of your $PATH and you will be good
[01:15] <ardan_> thanks godmachine81
[01:15] <godmachine81> yw
[01:16] <vittrad> greetings. i am new to ubuntu and i would really appreciate some help. i am getting an error during installation getting files. ubuntu desktop 14.04 x64.
[01:17] <pavlos> and the error is ...
[01:18] <vittrad> it says (errorno 5), i cant get all the info because it shuts down too fast. something about getting files. it occurs right after chosing partition alternatives.
[01:21] <vittrad> this is what i posted in "answers" [Ubuntu 14.04 x64 crashes during installation getting files after chosing partition options. Have tried numerous times with different partition altertatives. Have downloaded and mounted the .iso 4 times on a USB stick using the Universal-USB-installer, formating the USB each time, using torrent the last time to minimize the possibility of corrupt code. ]
[01:22] <pavlos> faulty hard disk. try cleaning up the hard disk (fdisk), maybe there are bad sectors, etc
[01:23] <vittrad> its been years since i dealt with fdisk. how do i start it?
[01:24] <godmachine81> if you are formatting from the UI then it should be detecting bad sectors of the hdd
[01:25] <godmachine81> regardless it shouldn't reboot the system automatically upon error when loaded from a usb drive
[01:25] <godmachine81> unless you have bad sectors on the usb media its self
[01:25] <pavlos> verify the iso with md5sum
[01:25] <godmachine81> i dont think you would have made it that far into the install process if you had errors on the usb drive
[01:26] <vittrad> no it doesnt reboot, but the error code window shuts down and launchpad opens in a firefox browser window. thats what im using right now.
[01:26] <DarkAceXtreme> can anyone tell me why my microphone is always recording and channeling everything it records straight to my speaker/headphones/output?
[01:28] <DarkAceXtreme> muting in both gnome's sound control and pulseaudio's volume control do nothing, the best I can do is turn the amplifier down as far as possible
[01:29] <godmachine81> DarkAceXtreme:: you have it set to 'monitor' ?
[01:30] <SchrodingersScat> DarkAceXtreme: played around with jackd?
[01:30] <DarkAceXtreme> it says no applications are currently recording audio, godmachine81
[01:30] <vittrad> I looked in the bug tracker without finding anything, those answers are very outdated. from 2006 and so on.
[01:30] <DarkAceXtreme> SchrodingersScat: I have not
[01:30] <SchrodingersScat> wait, i'm not sure if that would be applicable with the volume issue anyway..
[01:31] <DarkAceXtreme> what it repeats is actually quite quiet
[01:31] <DarkAceXtreme> but I can still hear it
[01:32] <kingbeowolf> should i buy a high end AMD GPU or Nvidia?
[01:32] <kingbeowolf> the AMD GPUs have gotten better right?
[01:32] <vittrad> @kingbewolf they are pretty much the same these days
[01:33] <kingbeowolf> Has crossfire been improved?
[01:35] <vittrad> I have been at this Ubuntu install for 48 hours now and im out of ideas. Guess ill go back to windows. Too bad really, i like the idea of Ubuntu.
[01:36] <kingbeowolf> vittrad, whats the issue
[01:36] <godmachine81> vittrad:: ubuntu is not the only option you have btw
[01:36] <vittrad> With the risk of spamming i will repost what i wrote earlier: Ubuntu 14.04 x64 crashes during installation getting files after chosing partition options. Have tried numerous times with different partition altertatives. Have downloaded and mounted the .iso 4 times on a USB stick using the Universal-USB-installer, formating the USB each time, using torrent the last time to minimize the possibility of corrupt code.  The target boot dis
[01:36] <fartmaster> hello
[01:37] <kingbeowolf> i guess a lot of issues with some USB drives
[01:37] <kingbeowolf> I also use unetbootin
[01:37] <kingbeowolf> it works well
[01:37] <godmachine81> vittrad:: the target boot eh?
[01:37] <godmachine81> the last part of your paste might be the most significant
[01:37] <vittrad> @godmachine are there other options with same level of software support?
[01:38] <godmachine81> vittrad:: sure, its linux.
[01:38] <terriblesarcasm> Hey guys, I'm having some trouble after installing Nvidia drivers, getting my 3rd monitor, which I need to be running via the mobo identified. Where should I be setting this?
[01:38] <vittrad> @godmachine preytell :)
[01:38] <mexi_d3> vittrad, I had that problem, and it turned out to be corrupted data on the disk - a full reformat fixed it. (Caution: this will erase data)
[01:38] <kingbeowolf> terriblesarcasm, is the third monitor on the onboard video?
[01:39] <terriblesarcasm> kingbeowolf: yes
[01:39] <godmachine81> if there is source code available for the project you want then it can be ran on any flavor of linux..  if its proprietary and designed for ubuntu, then you can extract the .deb files and use them also.
[01:39] <mexi_d3> vittrad, I mean the PC hard drive, not the USB
[01:39] <vittrad> @mexi i think i tried that already, if you are reffering to the built in format options in the installer?
[01:39] <kingbeowolf> terriblesarcasm, so like Nvidia and Intel?
[01:40] <terriblesarcasm> kingbeowolf: nvidia and intel exactly, yep
[01:40] <godmachine81> vittrad:: what is the part about the target boot ?
[01:40] <kingbeowolf> terriblesarcasm, look at this http://askubuntu.com/questions/142915/intel-graphic-chipset-and-nvidia-geforce-gtx560
[01:40] <vittrad> @godmachine i meant root
[01:41] <kingbeowolf> terriblesarcasm, i searched duckduckgo with this : getting intel onboard video working with nvidia gpu ubuntu
[01:41] <terriblesarcasm> kingbeowolf: thanks, I'll take a look, I searched a bit and couldn't find one I looked for
[01:41] <terriblesarcasm> one that was helpful**
[01:41] <kingbeowolf> terriblesarcasm, sometimes it is just knowing the correct phrases its all good
[01:41] <godmachine81> vittrad:: what is the full line you have for the error?
[01:42] <godmachine81> are you trying to format the target root as ext4 or are you trying to use LVM and something other  than ext4?
[01:42] <kingbeowolf> terriblesarcasm, https://duckduckgo.com/?q=getting+intel+onboard+video+working+with+nvidia+gpu+ubuntu&t=canonical
[01:42] <vittrad> @godmachine the error code window shuts down before i have a chance of retrieving it. but it says (errorno 5) and something about read/write
[01:42] <godmachine81> usb installer right?
[01:43] <vittrad> @godmachine yes
[01:43] <godmachine81> you have no way to try a cd install?
[01:43] <vittrad> @godmachine not at the moment no
[01:43] <root__> quit
[01:43] <root__> exit
[01:43] <terriblesarcasm> kingbeowolf: will the xorg be similar even though it's now on unity?
[01:43] <kingbeowolf> USBs can be fussy
[01:43] <kingbeowolf> terriblesarcasm, unity still uses xorg
[01:43] <terriblesarcasm> kingbeowolf: ok great
[01:43] <SchrodingersScat> and all USBs die, not all truly live
[01:43] <vittrad> @kingbeowolf yes it would seem so. i have not had problems with that stick before though
[01:43] <godmachine81> yea and one problem is properly detecting physically attached volumes
[01:44] <godmachine81> is it booting from uefi too?
[01:45] <vittrad> @godmachine would you recommend trying on a partition of a conventional HDD rather than an SSD drive?
[01:45] <godmachine81> vittrad:: no of course not
[01:45] <kingbeowolf> vittrad, make sure you format it as FAT and then try using unetbootin
[01:45] <kingbeowolf> the USB stick
[01:45] <godmachine81> vittrad:: i would first try to use a console aside from the installer and running fsck on the volume
[01:45] <vittrad> @godmachine alright. how do i start fdisk?
[01:46] <vittrad> @kingbeowolf ah yes, i have unetbootin. i can give that a try as well
[01:46] <godmachine81> cfdisk, parted, gdisk, gparted
[01:47] <godmachine81> fdisk won't work right with a GUID partitioned drive
[01:47] <godmachine81> which may be part of the problem
[01:47] <godmachine81> was your hard drive partitioned with MBR ?
[01:47] <vittrad> @godmachine i have no idea how to start fdisk. do i need to run it from some kind of media?
[01:48] <godmachine81> no
[01:48] <godmachine81> ctrl+alt+f1 from the installer
[01:48] <vittrad> @godmachine no i dont believe so
[01:48] <godmachine81> see if you get a login prompt.  i dont personally use ubuntu, so i dont know the default login/pass for the install media
[01:48] <godmachine81> getting a terminal is what you will need to probably do
[01:49] <godmachine81> but you shouldn't have to
[01:49] <vittrad> @godmachine i am using the new installer with graphics and mouse support
[01:49] <godmachine81> thats new?
[01:49] <vittrad> @godmachine i thought you meant the text only one
[01:50] <vittrad> @godmachine i tried that at first but that went south too
[01:50] <godmachine81> you probably need to partition with gdisk
[01:50] <godmachine81> and mkfs.ext4 /path/to/device
[01:51] <godmachine81> fsck.ext4 /path/to/device
[01:51] <godmachine81> rerun install
[01:52] <godmachine81> i'd probably recommend you try gparted on a different usb stick
[01:52] <godmachine81> it will get your hdd issues sorted out
[01:52] <godmachine81> gparted has their own ISO for fixing hdd issues
[01:52] <vittrad> @godmachine alright, i will give that a try before sending my chassi through the window. thank you for taking time to help me.
[01:53] <godmachine81> no problem. i would try to be of more help but i dont use ubuntu, sorry.. i'm just here for non-distro specific help
[01:53] <Ziber> Hey, I'm writing from one lvm to another, with dd. Is there any way I can see the progress of it?
[01:53] <godmachine81> Ziber:: try rsync instead ?
[01:54] <Ziber> well
[01:54] <Ziber> too late
[01:54] <crudson> Ziber: watch -n 5 'sudo pkill -USR1 -x dd'
[01:54] <crudson> from another terminal
[01:54] <Bashing-om> Ziber: Man dd -> has the directions on how to get a status of what 'dd' is doing.
[01:55] <ianorlin> Ziber man dd it is not capitalize and the command line cares about that
[01:55] <Ziber> Yeah, didn't even think to look. Good to know for the future.
[01:56] <INeverMore> How do I speed up ubuntu?
[01:56] <holstein> INeverMore: you can address your hardware
[01:56] <INeverMore> in what way?
[01:57] <holstein> INeverMore: more ram, faster/newer stuff.. ssd.. faster/better processor.. etc
[01:58] <INeverMore> should that really be needed though?
[01:58] <holstein> INeverMore: only you know
[01:58] <holstein> INeverMore: i dont think its "needed".. unless i want faster stuff.. then i get faster stuff
[01:58] <INeverMore> It's moving at a crawl for some reason I can't figure out though
[01:59] <holstein> INeverMore:  i can take advantage of lubuntu or xubuntu, which, are setup to use less system resources.. but, nothing in software makes your hardware any faster
[01:59] <INeverMore> Shouldn't be
[01:59] <godmachine81> INeverMore:: try cleansweep (equivalent to ccleaner for linux)
[01:59] <holstein> INeverMore: could be 3d support.. unity requires 3d support to work properly
[01:59] <holstein> INeverMore: could be bad/broken hardware
[01:59] <INeverMore> Works fine with other OS though
[01:59] <godmachine81> INeverMore:: make sure you are using the right video driver
[01:59] <INeverMore> Other OS is faster, that's what confuses me
[02:00] <holstein> INeverMore: so, there is the partition or drive that linux is on, which you can specifically test
[02:00] <INeverMore> Test what on it?
[02:00] <holstein> INeverMore: what "other" os? if its windows, and the creator of the hardware promised you widndows support, you really cant draw any conclusions
[02:00] <INeverMore> I just set it up last week, still new to this
[02:01] <INeverMore> Win8, and no support.  Built by a local company
[02:01] <drakedouay> i am having trouble adding a user to the sudoer file...  I ran this command as root: usermod -G sudo -a drake ..... but when I try to run a command it says I am not in the sudoers file
[02:01] <holstein> INeverMore: what im saying is, if "some other" os is normal, and ubuntu is slow, that could still be due to that part of the hard drive, or another hard drive with ubuntu on it failing
[02:01] <b13> INeverMore: try updating packages? seemed to work for me earlier
[02:01] <holstein> drakedouay: did you logout and back in?
[02:01] <godmachine81> drakedouay:: try visudo
[02:01] <drakedouay> holstein: nope
[02:02] <INeverMore> BTW, is there a way to get rid of unity?
[02:02] <holstein> INeverMore: i suggested using xubuntu
[02:02] <INeverMore> I don't like xubuntu
[02:02] <pavlos> sure, revert to gnome
[02:02] <holstein> INeverMore: xubuntu is ubuntu with xfce.. you
[02:02] <holstein> INeverMore: what do you want to use, friend?
[02:02] <INeverMore> pavlos, that's my question
[02:02] <INeverMore> How do I revert to gnome?
[02:02] <holstein> INeverMore: you dont.. you use gnome instead
[02:02] <INeverMore> how?
[02:02] <pavlos> well, that's a simple google search
[02:02] <drakedouay> holstein: awesome thanks... i should of thought of that
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> drakedouay, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers look ay visudo
[02:03] <holstein> INeverMore: you install it, and select it from the login screen.. no need to remove unity to use gnome
[02:03] <INeverMore> Install it from where?
[02:03] <INeverMore> How?  What/
[02:03] <holstein> INeverMore: the same as anything else, friend.. what do you use to manage packages?
[02:03] <wilee-nilee> INeverMore, gnome what there is the shell or fallback desktops
[02:03] <holstein> INeverMore: the software center? synaptic?
[02:03] <INeverMore> I haven't used ubuntu in ages, I have no clue
[02:04] <holstein> INeverMore: consider, just using it "as-is" then.. til you get more confortable with it
[02:04] <INeverMore> I hate unity though
[02:04] <INeverMore> preferred the menu system from the last time I used ubuntu
[02:04] <holstein> INeverMore: *any* guide you fine like http://www.enqlu.com/2014/03/how-to-install-gnome-shell-desktop-in.html will help
[02:04] <pavlos> logout, then at the login prompt select the gnome image and login
[02:04] <INeverMore> And where is that option?
[02:05] <holstein> INeverMore: you can download xubuntu, lubuntu, ubuntustudio, ubuntugnome, kubuntu.. many things that do not have unity
[02:05] <wilee-nilee> INeverMore, Try to do some research, don't expect every answer here.
[02:05] <pavlos> top right of the login box
[02:05] <holstein> !info ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[02:05] <rvdv> !kubuntu-desktop
[02:06] <holstein> INeverMore: you literally install that ^ .. sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop.. or search gnome in whatever package manager you prefer
[02:06] <wilee-nilee> pavlos, Not top right, it is at the login line a drop down.
[02:06] <INeverMore> what is a package manager?
[02:06] <wilee-nilee> INeverMore, google it that is one you should
[02:06] <holstein> INeverMore: its a manager of packages, such as the one you are asking about installing.. gnome..
[02:06] <INeverMore> and where do I find it?
[02:06] <holstein> INeverMore: try installing *anything*, friend.. something simple
[02:07] <holstein> INeverMore: have you opened the software center and searched "gnome" ? have you read http://www.enqlu.com/2014/03/how-to-install-gnome-shell-desktop-in.html ?
[02:07] <INeverMore> What software center?
[02:07] <holstein> INeverMore: its in the menu, friend..
[02:07] <INeverMore> Where?
[02:07] <pavlos> wilee-nilee, top right of the login box NOT the whole screen. The is an arrow that gives you various options. That's what I meant by 'login box'
[02:08] <holstein> INeverMore: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[02:08] <wilee-nilee> pavlos, Ah, I misread that you have my apology. ;)
[02:08] <holstein> INeverMore: i suggest, wait til you are more comfortable with the system.. install literally anything,and learn about the package management system.. open the software center
[02:08] <pavlos> np, it is difficult to convey visual info
[02:08] <INeverMore> The menu has almost nothing on it
[02:09] <holstein> INeverMore: ok
[02:09] <holstein> INeverMore: what do you need friend?
[02:09] <holstein> INeverMore: can you open a terminal?
[02:09] <INeverMore> How?
[02:09] <holstein> INeverMore: can you launch *anything*?
[02:09] <INeverMore> What's on the menu
[02:09] <INeverMore> that's it
[02:10] <rvdv> I guess INeverMore not yet have discovered dash
[02:10] <holstein> INeverMore: press the windows key, and start typing "terminal".. click on the terminal and launch it
[02:10] <holstein> INeverMore: do you have the terminal open?
[02:10] <INeverMore> what windows key?
[02:11] <circ-user-MauXr> hello?
[02:11] <pavlos> how about ctrl+alt+t
[02:11] <holstein> INeverMore: do you see a little ubuntu sign in the upper left corner of your screen?
[02:11] <INeverMore> Yes
[02:11] <holstein> INeverMore: please click that
[02:11] <holstein> INeverMore: then, start typing "terminal"
[02:11] <INeverMore> It does nothing
[02:11] <holstein> INeverMore: then, click on the terminal
[02:11] <holstein> INeverMore: it?
[02:12] <holstein> INeverMore: please be specific on what you are trying to do
[02:12] <INeverMore> clicking it does nothing
[02:12] <holstein> INeverMore: it?
[02:12] <holstein> INeverMore: what are you clicking, friend?
[02:12] <INeverMore> The ubuntu symbol
[02:12] <holstein> INeverMore: will you please press control and alt and t ?
[02:12] <holstein> INeverMore: do you see a terminal?
[02:12] <INeverMore> nope
[02:12] <INeverMore> Screen still looks the same
[02:13] <holstein> INeverMore: what *can* you launch?
[02:13] <INeverMore> right now?  nothing
[02:13] <holstein> INeverMore: im unclear how you cannot find an application tostart
[02:13] <holstein> INeverMore: what have you done? how are you here?
[02:13] <INeverMore> My other computer
[02:13] <holstein> INeverMore: ok.. come back when you are using ubuntu
[02:13] <pavlos> the left side of your screen should have icons, the top icon is called dash.
[02:14] <holstein> INeverMore: http://askubuntu.com/questions/66435/how-to-navigate-and-launch-installed-applications
[02:14] <INeverMore> I can't get to IRC with ubuntu
[02:14] <holstein> INeverMore: you apparently cant get to *anything* correct?
[02:14] <INeverMore> pavlos, and now, 3 minutes later, dash loaded a screen
[02:14] <holstein> INeverMore: dont say, you cant get to irc, if you literally cant launch anything
[02:14] <holstein> INeverMore: thenm from the dash, launch terminal
[02:14] <INeverMore> how?
[02:15] <holstein> INeverMore: you will have the same slowness from gnome, though..
[02:15] <holstein> INeverMore: i suggest, proper linux 3d support for gnome or unity.. or xfce
[02:15] <holstein> INeverMore: as i said, please type "terminal" in the dash
[02:15] <syeekick> ls commandd to include file extensions
[02:15] <syeekick> ?
[02:15] <INeverMore> I typed it
[02:15] <INeverMore> nothing happened
[02:16] <holstein> INeverMore: you can switch to tty..
[02:16] <holstein> !tty
[02:16] <pavlos> syeekick, you mean ls *.*
[02:16] <holstein> INeverMore: you can install gnome from there.. but, you should install xfce, if you want a useable desktop
[02:16] <syeekick> ls *.* is that not a emotcion
[02:16] <INeverMore> xfce annoys me
[02:16] <syeekick> ok
[02:16] <pavlos> star dot star
[02:17] <syeekick> thanks pavlos
[02:17] <holstein> INeverMore: so, from tty, assuming you are online, and if you are not, i suggest wiring up to wired internet.. you run "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop"
[02:17] <holstein> INeverMore: you *dont* have hardware that is supporting gnome or unity, however
[02:17] <gp5st1> hello. I'm on 12.04. I have an SSD. a few days ago the machine just randomly drops to below 1 tps according to iostat. SMART on the drive looks good.  I'm not sure how else to go about looking for the issue. The machine is brought to a halt when this happens. which is annoying because i shouldn't be hitting swap yet
[02:17] <ki7mt> syeekick, ls ~/<path>/*.{txt,ini,etc, etc}
[02:17] <syeekick> thanks guys
[02:17] <gp5st1> (ram is <50% utilized, but things like chrome just peg and peg and the io tps just goes through the basement
[02:18] <INeverMore> I can't get tty to work
[02:18] <rvdv> I would suggest lubuntu-desktop
[02:18] <holstein> INeverMore: in what way?
[02:18] <holstein> INeverMore: details, please..
[02:18] <INeverMore> I hit ctrl-alt-f2 and nothing happened
[02:18] <INeverMore> still dash screen is loaded
[02:18] <holstein> INeverMore:  i would download the lubuntu iso, and start with lubuntu
[02:18] <holstein> !lubuntu
[02:19] <INeverMore> and lubuntu has annoyed me in the past as well
[02:19] <ejo> So on a 4-core machine on 14.04 I've got Asunder ripping discs to FLAC while banshee plays from the same hard drive and I keep getting sound drop-outs. (not in the files, of course, just gaps in real-time audio playback).
[02:19] <holstein> INeverMore: sure.so *dont* use it.. just use it to get gnome installed, friend
[02:19] <ejo> I've increased the process priority of banshee and pulsaudio decreased that of asunder, cdparanoia, and the FLAC encoder.
[02:19] <ki7mt> Actualy, Luubuntu with LXQT is pretty slick
[02:19] <INeverMore> and how long would it take to download lubuntu?
[02:19] <ki7mt>  .. Lubuntu ..
[02:19] <holstein> INeverMore:  i dont know how long it takes you to do that
[02:19] <ejo> Is there anything else I can do -- besides weep for Ubuntu's lack of consciousness of prioritizing media playback?
[02:20] <holstein> INeverMore:  i know it takes be about 6 minutes...
[02:20] <holstein> me*
[02:20] <INeverMore> sounds like it would take awhile
[02:20] <ejo> None of my CPU meters are going over 30% and I'm quite sure I'm not saturating the SATA bus, not even close :P
[02:20] <rvdv> You can just install lubintu-desktop meta package
[02:20] <holstein> INeverMore: *this* has already taken a while.. just to discuss the possibility of you maybe opening an application
[02:20] <INeverMore> I left the computer running overnight to download ubuntu 14.04
[02:20] <INeverMore> took 9 hrs
[02:20] <ejo> if I have to boot into Windows just to play music at the same time as ripping I will truly weep for all that is Ubuntu
[02:20] <holstein> INeverMore: shouldnt..
[02:21] <ejo> is there more I can do besides alter those process priorities?
[02:21] <INeverMore> and yet it does
[02:21] <holstein> INeverMore: it does not here, friend.. was that a torrent?
[02:21] <INeverMore> nope
[02:21] <holstein> INeverMore: you might want to confirm that you have the iso without errors, if your internet is that bad
[02:21] <INeverMore> on a good day I get 100 kbps down
[02:21] <holstein> !md5 | INeverMore
[02:22] <ki7mt> 9hrs is an insane amount of time, something seriously not right with that unless it's like dial-up or something.
[02:23] <b13> actually 9hrs is very possible
[02:23] <holstein> INeverMore: there are recovery kernel modes at boot.. you can try those to get to a terminal where you should install something like lubuntu-desktop or xfce along with gnome-desktop
[02:23] <INeverMore> it's still locked up
[02:23] <holstein> INeverMore: yes.. boot modes at boot time.. from grum
[02:23] <holstein> grub*
[02:23] <INeverMore> finally terminal appeared in the dash search box about 2 minutes ago
[02:23] <ki7mt> I didn't say it wasn't possible, only that its insane to take that long
[02:24] <INeverMore> I hit enter, still waiting
[02:24] <ejo> Is there a good resource online for troubleshooting process continuity in audio playback on ubuntu?
[02:24] <holstein> ejo: you can try JACK
[02:24] <holstein> !proaudio
[02:24] <ejo> i really really don't ever want to hear a gap in playback, ever again, when I have not even halfway maxed a CPU or any data bus.
[02:24] <holstein> ejo:probably overkill for your needs
[02:24] <ejo> holstein: thank you!
[02:25] <ejo> yeah no recording pro here -- just that audio playback gaps are unacceptable in 1998, much less 2014.
[02:25] <ejo> especially when it's not a hardware limitation.
[02:25] <holstein> ejo: not sure what you are talking about, actually
[02:25] <ejo> is this what people mean when they complain about pulseaudio?
[02:25] <holstein> ejo: if you feel you have a pulse issue, try a live cd without it
[02:25] <ejo> holstein: do you mean I have not described the exact issue clearly enough?
[02:26] <holstein> ejo: most folks notice an improvement when not using pulse, but that can be from system resources clearing up. not pulse itself
[02:26] <holstein> ejo: yes.. thats what im saying.. i know not what a gap in playback is.. between tracks? what player? what file types? are they supported well? are the closed source mp3's? have you tried vlc? have you tried ogg's?
[02:26] <ejo> do I have a choice to use banshee without it?
[02:27] <holstein> ejo: pulse is using alsa
[02:27] <holstein> ejo: im sure you have tried other players besides just banshee, though
[02:27] <ejo> Here's a fuller description.  During the playback of a single track, audio output will simply stop for ~half second.  It's not a dropout of volume, it's more like a pause in playback (no program material is missed).
[02:27] <ejo> yes -- same prob with rhythmbox.
[02:28] <holstein> ejo: and with vlc? with ogg's?
[02:28] <ejo> not interested in oggs here, but I seem to only have this problem with flac playback and not mp3s or wav.
[02:28] <ejo> I could test vs. vlc
[02:28] <holstein> ejo: this is a troubleshooting step, friend. let me konw when you are "interested in oggs" and isolating variables.. otherwise, good luck
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> ejo, When you find this perfect world let us know we all want to be there. ;)
[02:29] <ejo> If you think testing on some ogg's would help, though I've already answered for mp3 and wav...
[02:30] <ejo> wilee-nilee: i'm not sure I get your point
[02:30] <holstein> ejo: i never suggested it as a fix, or "help".. its literaly just removing the proprietary file types from the equation
[02:30] <ejo> holstein: i'm not arguing with you, I hope I havent' sounded like I was.
[02:31] <holstein> ejo: no.. you just sound unwilling to remove the variable..
[02:31] <ejo> holstein: again, if you think that would help remove that variable I'll try it!  see you again after, perhaps.
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> ejo, It is no biggie, but you make encompassing statements that are just not possible in the real world every time.
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> that is all I will say.
[02:32] <ejo> wilee-nilee: sorry, I clearly wasn't aware of that.  perhaps it was interpretation.
[02:33] <ejo> wilee-nilee: you may have caught the sense of "why is this even a *potential* problem on this platform" in my statements/questions -- i think that was probably it.
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> ejo, I am a multicultural communications major in a graduate program with a bachelors in ethnic studies, I'm careful how I interpret.
[02:34] <ejo> good policy!
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> ejo, I do get your point it is always a matter of interpretations. ;)
[02:34] <ejo> As a Cognitive Science guy I should be more careful how I communicate in the first place.  But many of us are tempted to risk clarity for brevity all the time ;)
[02:35] <wilee-nilee> ejo, Hey, cool, mine is a preface to clinical psychology, lol, hopefully.
[02:35] <ejo> It's just a bit ironic -- I am so constantly thankful for how much more smoothly and nicely Linux seems to handle process scheduling -- it is so very rare that I have anything hold up, stutter, or slow down.  Compared to Windows in which it's a constant problem even while my machine is at 15-20% load.
[02:36] <ejo> ... EXCEPT when I want uninterrupted audio playback while performing two very minor other tasks!  THat's the sting.
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> holstein, Sorry to interrupt with OT, I will shut up. ;)
[02:37] <ejo> wilee-nilee: that's great, good luck - the world needs more people helping each other with psych needs.  OK, I'll drop the OT too.
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[02:42] <BillyZane>    hello
[02:55] <ejo> suddenly quiet in here!
[02:55] <ejo> <clears throat> Next time before I complain about the system being unable to handle audio playback w/o stutter while writing to the same drive... I will enable the drive's write cache.
[02:56] <ejo> :D
[02:57] <johnone> msg _ruben hello
[02:58] <johnone> MSG _ruben hello
[02:59] <holstein> johnone: what are you trying to do, friend? you want /query _ruben instead? for a PM?
[03:00] <hicham> b
[03:00] <pavlos> try /msg nickname message
[03:01] <Vivekananda> can anyone tell me why maximizing videos something works fine and other times just hangs a bit . I am trying to watch videos fullscreen in firefox ubuntu 12.04
[03:01] <holstein> Vivekananda: flash is proprietary.. your graphics hardware can be as well..
[03:02] <holstein> Vivekananda: try chrome for most recent flash..
[03:02] <b13> if it's on youtube, there's an html5 player
[03:02] <holstein> https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ or html youtube https://www.youtube.com/html5
[03:02] <Vivekananda> holstein: I would understand if it did not work at alll but it works sometimes and other times doesnt. I was wondering if this had something to do with cache storing or just driver issues.
[03:03] <Vivekananda> and if there is a way to troubleshoot.
[03:03] <holstein> Vivekananda: it likely has *everything* to do with the older verion of flash you are using
[03:03] <holstein> Vivekananda: try a differnt one, or html5, and test..
[03:04] <Vivekananda> playing something on putlocker site
[03:04] <Vivekananda> can I use html for it  ?
[03:04] <holstein> Vivekananda: askt hem
[03:04] <holstein> ask them*
[03:04] <kingbeowolf> should i buy a high end AMD GPU or Nvidia?
[03:04] <kingbeowolf> the AMD GPUs have gotten better right?
[03:05] <holstein> kingbeowolf: i do intel, whenever possible
[03:05] <monkey> Gpu not cpu
[03:06] <holstein> correct.. intel graphics is what i prefer, whenever possible.. otherwise, i would probably go nvidia, since i have had better luck there
[03:06] <pavlos> kingbeowolf, I use a GT 640 on 14.04, no issues.
[03:08] <kingbeowolf> I've used a 7950 like 6 months ago and it worked well, but was curious if anyone had used the higher end ones on some of the games
[03:12] <fartmaster> hello
[03:15] <Xaft> Hi there, I am looking to dual boot ubuntu and windows 8. I've tried looking for tutorials but they all start with having windows 8 and then installing ubuntu. Anyone know of a good one that starts with ubuntu (14.04) and then installs windows 8?
[03:15] <wilee-nilee> fartmaster, Congrats on a nick that probably makes people wonder how serious or skilled you are, I have one to. ;)
[03:16] <wilee-nilee> Xaft, This a msdos setup or uefi?
[03:16] <wilee-nilee> err gpt really
[03:16] <Xaft> wilee-nilee, I am unsure of the difference, but I want it to be at bios level, so uefi I guess?
[03:17] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> Xaft, Several reasons why people suggest windows to ubuntu, one is the bootloaders in msdos grub is in the mbr this just has grub in the last install you are ready to go. The real key here is havinh windows at the beginning of the HD for easy access with it's technology, ie recovery or install discs for repair. So you can have partitions already there for a windows install later than slip in ubuntu f
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> irst after those.
[03:19] <lotuspsychje> whats the packagename of useraccounts GUI icon, and is it safe to purge it to just use the terminal way for adding users?
[03:20] <Xaft> wilee-nilee, thanks for the indepth reply! A bit too late though, been using ubuntu for about a year now and dont want to fresh install. I'll aslo only be using windows like 10% of the time
[03:20] <wilee-nilee> Xaft, UEFI is a chip thing so you have it or you don't is all, uefi uses gpt partitioning in general as well.
[03:21] <Xaft> wilee-nilee, would you suggest this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot#Installing_Windows_After_Ubuntu
[03:21] <wilee-nilee> Xaft, You can clone the ubuntu and mess around though so you do have options, or if the ubuntu partitions are in a extended already and not sda1 or sda2 you can resize the ubuntu and slip windows in front.
[03:22] <ejo> Xaft, after a multi step process you'll eventually be fine... the temporary annoyance will be that Windows is less aware of boot loader issues and will overwrite the GRUB that loads Ubuntu.  But there's an easy procedure for putting it back and setting up the final dual-boot switch.
[03:22] <wilee-nilee> one can even go as far as renaming partiton #'s as well, so you have some options
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> Xaft, as confirmed by ejo and the dualboot link, in amsdos the reloading of grub to the mbr is real easy.
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> a msdos*
[03:25] <Xaft> Yes!
[03:25] <Xaft> Wait a second, I have ubuntu installed on my SDD, and am looking to install windows on my HDD
[03:26] <lotuspsychje> !ssd | Xaft
[03:26] <Xaft> wilee-nilee, ejo, so this will make the process much easier?
[03:26] <Xaft> lotuspsychje, on 14.04! Thank you though
[03:27] <lotuspsychje> Xaft: i got an url to tweak ssd on ubuntu, want it?
[03:27] <jmadero> hi all
[03:27] <Xaft> sure, why not!
[03:27] <jmadero> I'm having a horrible time trying to get large NFS transfers to go smoothly
[03:27] <Xaft> lotuspsychje, yes please!
[03:27] <jmadero> I get a huge spike at the beginning (>25 megs/second) then a complete system freeze
[03:27] <lotuspsychje> Xaft: https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd
[03:28] <jmadero> then speed drops to <200 kb/s but I get freezes every 30 seconds or so
[03:28] <jmadero> google tells me this is a known problem - but so far I can't find a fstab that resolves it
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> Xaft: i tweaked my samsung evo 120 ssd on 14.04 64bit and it goes rocketfast
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> Xaft: there are several other tweaks then trim you can do
[03:28] <Xaft> lotuspsychje, I got the same one!
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> Xaft, Hard to tell what you are understanding and your definition of easier. ;) We have also mentioned UEFI versus MSDOS and gpt partitioning. It is imperative you figure out what you have we can help there, run sudo parted -l and pastebin the in fo.
[03:31] <Xaft> wilee-nilee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7577499/
[03:33] <picus> does anyone know how to change the window title text color in unity? http://a.pomf.se/lyuboh.png
[03:33] <wilee-nilee> Xaft, That is uefi and gpt, cool now you know for sure, if you were wondering. A little more complex in the dual boot area, but many do this with no problems and some come here or the ubuntu forums for gettinh tightened up. ;)
[03:33] <wilee-nilee> getting*
[03:34] <Xaft> wilee-nilee, great hahah. If there's nothing I love (/s) more is a hard ubuntu task!
[03:34] <lotuspsychje> picus: this is part of your theme right?
[03:34] <picus> lotuspsychje: yes
[03:34] <wilee-nilee> Xaft, Don't we all, the suffering is half the fun. ;)
[03:34] <lotuspsychje> !theme | picus maybe here
[03:34] <nathaneltitane> hello, I am trying to build my first package and i am getting an error: dpkg-source: error: syntax error in lpub-4.0.0.3/debian/control at line 9: block lacks the 'Package' field
[03:35] <nathaneltitane> how do i fix it?
[03:35] <Xaft> wilee-nilee, so I have another drive which I want to install windows on though, do we need to check that?
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> Xaft: how about you loose win once and for good, and use your ssd fully clean ubuntu install :p
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> Xaft, I believe that drive just needs to be set up for uefi is all, the install may do all that for you, I'm not really sure, I have not had the pain/pleasure yet in having to jump this barrier, I have W8.1 and multi linux OS's, but in a msdos setup.
[03:37] <Xaft> lotuspsychje, just a few programs on windows I need for my work. :'(
[03:37] <nathaneltitane> anyone?
[03:37] <Xaft> wilee-nilee, damn hehe
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> Xaft: can you wine them?
[03:38] <nathaneltitane> can i at least be redirected to the proper room?
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> !compile | nathaneltitane
[03:38] <wilee-nilee> !patience | nathaneltitane
[03:38] <Xaft> lotuspsychje, adobe indesign and microsoft visio, I'll check
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> nathaneltitane: maybe #ubuntu-devel guys might know some about packages
[03:38] <wilee-nilee> nathaneltitane, Extra pleading at least to me makes me wonder the stability of helping you.
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> Xaft: check playonlinux for those :p
[03:39] <nathaneltitane> wilee-nilee: it's not the pleading, it'S about lack of time
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> !info playonlinux | Xaft
[03:39] <Xaft> lotuspsychje, thanks ^^
[03:40] <wilee-nilee> nathaneltitane, This is free volunteer help, the world revolves around all of us no specific individual. The hurried need you have is why I wonder of the stability, I find helping those in this state can be very frustrating is all. ;)
[03:40] <Xaft> These softwares are hard to navigate, damn
[03:41] <Xaft> lotuspsychje, so pretty sure this is what I want; http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=24713
[03:41] <Xaft> lotuspsychje, how do I make the magic work from here hehe
[03:42] <x0auser> hey, i have all my system in french,, but the date and time are in arabic, how can i change it thanks. Frensh xubuntu 14.04
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> Xaft: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37632/is-there-an-alternative-to-microsoft-office-visio
[03:42]  * wilee-nilee wonders when the general public will see that the peer reviewed studies on multitasking shows it is not possible.
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> x0auser: did you install the ararbic ubuntu in the first place?
[03:43] <Xaft> lotuspsychje, tried a few of them. yED is the only promising one, but it's not quite the same. Thanks greatly for your help though
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> Xaft: i hear good things about pencil too
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> x0auser: or arabic timezone?
[03:45] <x0auser> lotuspsychje, i set algiers when in the installation, because i live in algeria, so i get all the system in french. Only date in arabic, the seven days are in arabic
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> x0auser: if you are not using algeria language for ubuntu, maybe install it french, and set data/timezone as you wish afterwards?
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> x0auser: now ubuntu thinks algerian system no?
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> Xaft: http://www.maketecheasier.com/5-best-free-alternatives-to-microsoft-visio/
[03:48] <Xaft> lotuspsychje, thank you! Really appreciated man
[03:49] <x0auser> Yes, but all the system is in french
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> Xaft: no prob, you can always virtualize win with virtualbox and run visio from inside there
[03:49] <x0auser> may i reinstall the system ?
[03:49] <Xaft> yeah true. Thanks I'll give them all a shot!
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> x0auser: do you want your system in french or algerian?
[03:49] <x0auser> French
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> x0auser: the way i would do, is install clean french, then choose timezone algerian after (if your not gonna use algerian keyboard)
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> x0auser: you live in algeria?
[03:51] <x0auser> Yep
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> x0auser: ok so you will need algerian timezone only
[03:52] <lotuspsychje> x0auser: you can look into languages icon, you might not have to reinstall
[03:52] <lotuspsychje> x0auser: remove alergia language and add french for system
[03:53] <x0auser> Yea, good idea. I'm testing
[03:53] <x0auser> thanks
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> x0auser: good luck :p
[03:54] <x0auser> no chance...
[03:55] <Under-C-Capt> just testing my IRC capability...1...2...3
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> !test | Under-C-Capt
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> x0auser: did you push 'apply system wide' might need a reboot too
[03:58] <x0auser> yeah, but not asking me to reboot the system
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> x0auser: try reboot anyway mate
[03:58] <devuser> hi i have some problem with pendrive. i have this error http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2014-06-02_18_50_29-KJ4W5WEn.png
[03:58] <x0auser> ok
[03:59] <devuser> i don't want format pen drive :(
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> devuser: did you try with gparted?
[04:00] <devuser> gparted format pendrive, i'd like get  data from this pendrive
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> devuser: you want to recover data on it?
[04:00] <devuser> yes
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | devuser
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> devuser: install this one, then sudo photorec afterwards to recover data
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> x0auser: any luck?
[04:01] <armenb> hello...I have a question regarding resolvconf and dnsmasq on ubuntu 12.04: do i need to install the ubuntu network manager if i want these two to play well together? my system is a server sitting in a rack
[04:01] <x0auser> Yeahhhhhhhh
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> !yay | x0auser
[04:01] <devuser> photorec... ok i'll try
[04:01] <x0auser> thank you
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> armenb: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might also know this?
[04:01] <x0auser> Honestly, superb community ! Ciao
[04:03] <armenb> lotuspsychje: thanks
[04:04] <ichat> ah fuck it why am i even here...
[04:13] <leomark> I want to access my /etc/ckan folder. But the apache give me an error "Symbolic link not allowed or link target not accessible: /etc/ckan". How can I fix this? Im new in apache and ubuntu
[04:14] <konst> I want to get rid of an old Windows partition, and give the freed space to my Ubuntu partition. How do I go about doing that?
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> konst: use gparted to repartition
[04:15] <konst> I tried.
[04:15] <konst> The slider for my ubuntu parition was blacked out.
[04:16] <SchrodingersScat> konst: are you using the ubuntu parition?
[04:16] <truexfan81> in the current lts is buntu using systemd?
[04:16] <konst> Yes. I am guessing you can't do it while it is mounted?
[04:17] <SchrodingersScat> konst: not that I know of, so try a liveusb, or livedvd, whatever you're used to to
[04:17] <tjayh913> note to self: I mean "nautilus ." not "nautilus *"...so many windows...
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> konst: you might wanna try swap off first before resize
[04:18] <tjayh913> <command line noob
[04:20] <SchrodingersScat> tjayh913: embrace it
[04:22] <tjayh913> yeah, thats why I am playing around with it in a virtual machine
[04:23] <dmarr> if i installed ubuntu server and wanted to run a graphical interface , would i use xfce?
[04:23] <dmarr> just to test out -X with vagrant ssh
[04:24] <Tuna-Fish> dmarr: I don't understand the question. Do you mean should you use xfce?
[04:24] <Tuna-Fish> dmarr: you can install any of unity, gnome, xfce, kde, etc...
[04:25] <dmarr> wwell since its over a ssh connection
[04:25] <linocisco> hi all
[04:25] <dmarr> Tuna-Fish: xfce complains no display
[04:25] <dmarr> so its more of a How to xfce over ssh/vagrant
[04:25] <linocisco> does anyone know which software we could use google talk with voice ?
[04:26] <happylife> i could not visit http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/pysiogame but
[04:26] <mkrz> dmarr: install xorg-server-core
[04:26] <happylife> i want to contact the auhor to translate
[04:27] <happylife> who has the author's email?
[04:27] <dmarr> mkrz: would vnc4server contain that?
[04:27] <linocisco> does anyone know which software we could use google talk with voice ?
[04:27] <mkrz> dmarr: not sure about vnc4server
[04:27] <SchrodingersScat> happylife: http://sourceforge.net/u/eric83pl/profile/send_message
[04:29] <Gorroth> hi
[04:29] <Gorroth> is it just me, or when doing a fresh installation of 14.04 and telling ubuntu to encrypt the disk, does it take a long time to do that?
[04:29] <Gorroth> I did not choose "Overwrite empty disk space" since I've never used this drive before
[04:29] <SchrodingersScat> compared to ?
[04:30] <Sachiru> Define "long time to do encryption"
[04:30] <Sachiru> How long, exactly?
[04:30] <Gorroth> don't be dense, people.
[04:30] <Gorroth> anyway, looks like the drive is showing errors on tty1
[04:30] <SchrodingersScat> yeah, we should know how long is too long.
[04:31] <happylife> SchrodingersScat:that page was reset
[04:31] <happylife> it seems be blocked
[04:31] <happylife> so sad
[04:32] <Gorroth> yeah, actually, you should have some idea
[04:32] <SchrodingersScat> glad that's resolved
[04:32]  * omber notes that overall density of chatroom has decreased.
[04:36] <wilee-nilee> omber, Time of day is the context.
[04:37] <wilee-nilee> time globally, most busy here in US european day times
 yeah, actually, you should have some idea  hmmmm they don't lol.
[04:38] <omber> wilee-nilee, I was commenting on what Gorroth said: "dont be dense people"; because we can predict hard disk FS encryption times, since that has no variables what so ever :)
[04:38] <wilee-nilee> omber, Ah.
[04:39] <omber> hmm NIC caps at some undefined transfer rate
[04:39] <wilee-nilee> My favorite word "variables" from an academic sense.
[04:39] <omber> current average ~8MB/s across gigabit to another box; laptop connected to same switch as PC will do 70+ from same USB caddy
[04:41] <omber> wilee-nilee, variables are very important :)
[04:42] <squisher> hey folks, how can I select a different session (wm/DE) on the default login screen?
[04:42] <wilee-nilee> omber, Yeah I use that term so often here when we get terms like "best" "is this going to work" questions that want a finalization just not possible really.
[04:43] <utopian> hi
[04:43] <ubuntukutje> Anyone that could help me fix my network config on my ubuntu server? cant seem to connect to default gateway
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> squisher, In a drop down on the right side of the login line.
[04:43] <omber> wilee-nilee, can you ping it?
[04:43] <omber> errr
[04:43] <omber> ubuntukutje, can you ping it?
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[04:43] <squisher> wilee-nilee, ah thanks, got it... my VM must've been a bit too slow because I swear I clicked there before :)
[04:44] <utopian> sooo many loopz
[04:44] <ubuntukutje> omber: No, i tried both dhcp and static IP. cant reach anything on the network
[04:44] <wilee-nilee> squisher, Yeah, VM's can be a clicking like a game scenario at times.
[04:44] <omber> ubuntukutje, is your eth0 up ...?
[04:45] <linux_> irc.openjoke.org
[04:45] <wilee-nilee> utopian, Do you have a support issue for the channel you can outline?
[04:45] <omber> ubuntukutje, I ask because there should be nothing enabled that would just flat out lock your outbound packets
[04:45] <omber> ubuntukutje, inbound, sure, outbound makes no sense
[04:46] <ubuntukutje> omber, not entirely sure. quite new with Linux. mind PMing?
[04:46] <linux_> ciao a tutti
[04:46] <wilee-nilee> ubuntukutje, You are best in the channel, so we all can monitor and help when needed.
[04:50] <morph-> anyone know how i can clear out some of the bs I got on my / partition?
[04:50] <morph-> i only made it 20GB and its full now
[04:50] <morph-> but theres so many packages here and there that i can't just clean em out one by one
[04:52] <squisher> morph-, I'd recommend to check first how much stuff you have in /tmp and /var
[04:52] <morph-> /tmp is empty
[04:52] <MonkeyDust> morph-  paste this line in a terminal, it show all the largest files... see if you can remove any     find / -size +1G -exec ls -lh {} \; 2>/dev/null
[04:52] <morph-> alright one sc
[04:52] <morph-> sec
[04:52] <morph-> I need to exclude /home somehow MonkeyDust
[04:53] <morph-> /proc/kore
[04:53] <morph-> dunno what that is
[04:53] <linocisco> does anyone know which software we could use google talk with voice ?
[04:54] <morph-> -r-------- 1 root root 128T Jun  3 06:53 /proc/kcore
[04:54] <MonkeyDust> # /proc/kcore is a virtual file and contains the RAM the kernel can allocate
[04:54] <morph-> ah
[04:54] <user123321> URGENT: I'm about to do a presentation in Ubuntu, but I have never connected to a projector before on this installation of Ubuntu before. Could someone advice me the hardware neutral fail-safe way to connect my laptop to VGA projector? Thanks.
[04:54] <morph-> well i cant get any results because its reading my torrent files in /home
[04:56] <squisher> morph-, who said anything about /home? Just run "du -sh /var" on the console first
[04:56] <morph-> the command he had me run searched it
[04:57] <squisher> ah, ok, a useful command... you can work it with "| grep -v '^/home' " to remove the /home results
[04:57] <squisher> user123321, some ubuntu I've used before even automatically configured the projector
[04:58] <squisher> but generally I like arandr
[04:58] <squisher> you'll need to install it, though
[04:59] <user123321> So my Ubuntu 14.04 will do it for me? Perhaps I might have to visit preferences -> displays for that?
[04:59] <Evilmax> hi all
[04:59] <user123321> system settings -> display
[04:59] <squisher> user123321, if you want a backup option, install the package arandr
[04:59] <Evilmax> there is a way to delete an user manually from system?
[04:59] <squisher> it's a nice guy, very easy to use
[04:59] <morph-> okay
[04:59] <morph-> yeah
[04:59] <morph-> its /var
[04:59] <user123321> I see.
[04:59] <morph-> 8.4G
[05:00] <user123321> how to work using it?
[05:00] <user123321> is it gui?
[05:00] <squisher> user123321, it's a gui, it's pretty easy to use. you can drag and drop the monitors after you enable them in the menu
[05:00] <user123321> Aha
[05:00] <squisher> Evilmax, deluser foo
[05:01] <Evilmax> no...i mean without command
[05:01] <Evilmax> manually
[05:02] <squisher> Evilmax, just be careful with system users
[05:02] <Evilmax> it is sufficient delete it from passd file?
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> Evilmax, https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-add-and-delete-users-on-ubuntu-12-04-and-centos-6
[05:02] <Evilmax> passwd
[05:02] <morph-> squisher
[05:02] <squisher> Evilmax, sure, edit /etc/passwd and /etc/groups - but that's for experts only
[05:02] <morph-> /var/lib is my culprit
[05:02] <morph-> but i cant do much about that can i?
[05:02] <squisher> morph-, dig deeper, what in /var/lib?
[05:03] <Evilmax> you need to expert to create an user: delet it is always simple :)
[05:03] <morph-> uh
[05:03] <wilee-nilee> Evilmax, The web is full of this info if you need more confirmation outside the channel.
[05:03] <Evilmax> ti be*
[05:03] <morph-> how can i make it search recurisively?
[05:03] <squisher> morph-, du -sh /var/lib/*
[05:03] <squisher> only unfortunate thing is that du doesn't sort
[05:03] <Sniffer> hi
[05:03] <Sniffer> who is here
[05:03] <Sniffer> i have ask
[05:03] <Sniffer> how i can create channel private irc ?
[05:04] <wilee-nilee> !ot | Sniffer
[05:04] <Sniffer> what need for create channel irc ?
[05:04] <morph-> 4.3G	/var/lib/lxc
[05:04] <Sniffer> what?
[05:04] <wilee-nilee> Sniffer> what need for create channel irc ? Ask #freenode
[05:04] <Sniffer> ok thanks
[05:05] <squisher> morph-, so do you still use that?
[05:05] <morph-> im not entirely sure what it is
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> Sniffer, This is just ubuntu support specifically is all. ;)
[05:05] <morph-> trying to figure it out
[05:06] <sheer> hey how can I see why my mouse/usb ports keep disabling 30s after plugging in?
[05:06] <sheer> like what output should i pull into terminal
[05:06] <sheer> to see what's going on
[05:06] <morph-> thanks squisher
[05:06] <morph-> im too tired to think
[05:06] <pavlos> morph-, if I understood, you could du -sh /var/lib/* | sort
[05:06] <squisher> morph-, then do it tomorrow ;-) you should be able to search on packages.ubuntu.com for that path
[05:07] <morph-> its an old monitoring thing i had up
[05:07] <morph-> i just meant i was too tired to think of how to solve my problem
[05:07] <squisher> pavlos, that sort won't work because it doesn't understand 1G > 10M
[05:07] <morph-> im removing it now
[05:07] <morph-> i just did | grep G
[05:07] <morph-> only 1 file that was a GB
[05:07] <Tex_Nick> I'm in process of completing a clean install of 14.04 from 13.04 on grandkids pc ... when i imported old firefox bookmarks/history into new build i decided to snoop through history to see what they had been doing ... on old firefox i had Bloksi installed for parental control ... looks like about 4 months ago they learned how to disable or remove Bloksi cause i've found a lot of porn links :(
[05:07] <pavlos> I see
[05:08] <ubuntukutje> Anyone wants to have a shot at my freshly installed ubuntu server that cant connect to my network?
[05:08] <wilee-nilee> Tex_Nick, And this is relevant here a family channel accessed world wide?
[05:08] <morph-> im not gonna help ya fix that Tex_Nick :P
[05:08] <Tex_Nick> so i'm about to staart googling a better solution ... but would like input from you gurus also
[05:08] <morph-> unless its over the top porn id say let it be
[05:09] <Bashing-om> squisher: A du sort routine -> du -h /var | sort -nr | less
[05:09] <squisher> Bashing-om, uh, that has the same problem
[05:09] <morph-> guys guys
[05:09] <morph-> | grep G worked just fine
[05:09] <pavlos> morph-, add the -h after sort
[05:10] <morph-> i dont need to
[05:10] <morph-> grep did it
[05:10] <morph-> only 1 folder that was larger than 1GB
[05:10] <Bashing-om> squisher: I be reviewing the channel.
[05:10] <wilee-nilee> morph-, Your opinions and advice are not needed here, you are not a counselor.
[05:10] <morph-> how do you know?
[05:10] <Tex_Nick> wilee-nilee: wel sir i would think it would be particularry relevant for a family oriented channel ... and hey i'm no newbie here :)
[05:11] <morph-> appreciate your help squisher // pavlos
[05:11] <wilee-nilee> morph-, If you were you would not be doing it, it is not a do no harm answer.
[05:11] <pavlos> np
[05:11] <morph-> im not looking to argue wilee-nilee
[05:11] <morph-> sorry man
[05:11] <wilee-nilee> morph-, Cool, thanks. ;)
[05:12] <Psil0Cybin> what hapepns when im in the middle of an update and i cancel it while its downloading packages
[05:12] <Psil0Cybin> does it remove the uncomplete packages
[05:12] <morph-> nothing
[05:12] <morph-> it downloads packages before it starts installing
[05:12] <wilee-nilee> Tex_Nick, Yes the app is through ubuntu, the context is not needed is all. ;)
[05:12] <Psil0Cybin> can i remove them
[05:12] <Psil0Cybin> the packages that are not done?
[05:13] <Psil0Cybin> if i didnot actually want toupdate
[05:13] <wilee-nilee> exact context I guess is my point
[05:13] <sheer> my mouse still appears in lsusb, but not working
[05:13] <sheer> slash no light coming out of it
[05:14] <wilee-nilee> sheer, Can you post the actual lsusb info and the mouse brand name and model?
[05:14] <sheer> Bus 001 Device 013: ID 045e:00cb Microsoft Corp. Basic Optical Mouse v2.0
[05:14] <sheer> just a cheapy MS optical mouse
[05:14] <sheer> i've been using it for months fine
[05:15] <wilee-nilee> sheer, Ah a MS mouse, hard to say I have seen issues on line in linux environments,
[05:15] <wilee-nilee> sheer, So was working but nor now? Maybe it's broken?
[05:15] <wilee-nilee> not*
[05:16] <sheer> works fine on my android tablet (just tested)
[05:16] <sheer> unless my usb ports are now on the fritz, which would be a shame
[05:16] <wilee-nilee> sheer, How about if ever working in ubuntu, be exacting in your statements if you can.
[05:17] <pavlos> sheer, is there a KVM switch connected to the mouse?
[05:17] <sheer> no KVM, and it's a mouse i carry around with my laptop, always been working on Ubuntu
[05:18] <wilee-nilee> sheer, Notice that when we address you we preface with your nick.
[05:19] <sheer> wilee-nilee, my apologies, I haven't used IRC in some years
[05:19] <wilee-nilee> sheer, No biggie, just don't want you to get lost in the shuffle. ;)
[05:20] <Tex_Nick> wilee-nilee: your point is well stated & sincerely considered ... i was hoping for some specifics, however i'll search elsewhere a bit, at least for now :)
[05:21] <morph-> Tex_Nick use the router bud
[05:21] <squisher> sheer, do a 'sudo tail /var/log/syslog' and then replug the mouse... maybe some enlightening error messages will appear? But I'd also test it on a different computer to see if it's not just dead
[05:21] <morph-> thats about all ya can do
[05:21] <morph-> whitelist the sites ur ok with
[05:22] <Tex_Nick> morph-: that's a nightmare man & requires constant management
[05:22] <morph-> im not really familiar with any software or anything to do it but i know if you want to restrict it thats the way
[05:22] <sheer> squisher, thanks mate, I'll have a look what it says there when the mouse goes dead
[05:22] <morph-> yeah unfortunately you can either have something that is easy but also easily bypassed or something that is difficult but works
[05:23] <wilee-nilee> Tex_Nick, If people are aware of that app, they will likely help here, so it is all your choice, don't let my concern for context/subject being important in this exact context as a not helpful channel. ;)
[05:25] <Tex_Nick> morph-: this is a common problem with multiple solutions that don't require much maintenance ... i really should have looked around before posting here
[05:25] <morph-> I sent you a PM Tex_Nick
[05:26] <squisher> anyone know what the "@plt" stands for in a backtrace that includes "g_mutex_lock@plt" and no line numbers despite the glib -dbg package being installed?
[05:26] <morph-> Tex_Nick http://www.opendns.com/home-internet-security/parental-controls/
[05:26] <morph-> this is quite possibly an easy and effective solution
[05:26] <susundberg> Hey, i am having kubuntu 14.04 and laptop, that is docked -> lid closed. When doing normal boot everything goes fine until the login screen appears - at that point machine goes to 'suspend to ram' - pressing power button works, but it still seems like a bug to me. Any ideas what package to report in?
[05:27] <wilee-nilee> susundberg, This happpen without being docked?
[05:27] <morph-> yea squisher
[05:27] <morph-> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/5469274/what-does-plt-mean-here
[05:27] <susundberg> Not tried, but my guess is that it happens due lid closed. If the laptop does not have external monitor i guess that is a sane thing to do
[05:27] <morph-> the reply explains it way better than I can
[05:27] <Tex_Nick> wilee-nilee: hey man you're practically a legend here for help & i have in the past, do now & always respect your help/dedication ... :)))))
[05:28] <wilee-nilee> susundberg, That is an important "variable"
[05:28] <susundberg> wilee-nilee: yeah sure, but that does not pinpoint the package at any way
[05:28] <squisher> morph-, thanks
[05:28] <morph-> np
[05:28] <wilee-nilee> Tex_Nick, Lol, if there is a legend I'm not sure it is all positive, but thanks for the kudos. ;)
[05:29] <wilee-nilee> susundberg, Cool it is your issue, carry on. ;)
[05:31] <susundberg> Anyone else, any ideas what package handles the power management during login ?
[05:35] <morph-> uhh
[05:35] <morph-> susundberg 1 sec
[05:35] <susundberg> morph-: thanks
[05:35] <morph-> its ACPI
[05:35] <morph-> not sure what the exact package is
[05:36] <morph-> http://www.acpi.info/presentations/ACPI_Overview.pdf
[05:36] <mojtaba> Hi, I have made ssh connection to a remote computer and run some commands, if I close my local terminal (which is running ssh), will the remote machine stop continuing that command?
[05:37] <morph-> depends
[05:37] <morph-> if the server has already received the commands then no
[05:37] <mojtaba> morph-: It is backing up
[05:37] <morph-> but if the bottleneck came from your end yes
[05:37] <morph-> you can try ctrl+c
[05:37] <mojtaba> ctrl+c to terminate ssh?
[05:38] <susundberg> morph-: that does not look like package either (to look for possible bugs with the same issue .. )
[05:38] <morph-> no to cancel the commands
[05:38] <morph-> yea sorry susundberg thats the only thing i know of
[05:38] <morph-> i just remembered that because i had to turn it off for debugging before
[05:38] <susundberg> morph-: thanks for your time anyway, ill continue googling
[05:38] <mojtaba> morph-: I do not want to cancel the command. I just want to shutdown my local pc and let the server do the rest
[05:38] <morph-> oh
[05:38] <morph-> yea it will not cancel
[05:39] <morph-> what command?
[05:39] <susundberg> mojtaba: if you want your command to continue executing while closing the connection take a look at 'screen' utility
[05:39] <mojtaba> morph-: it is rsync
[05:39] <morph-> uhh
[05:39] <morph-> crap i dont remember
[05:39] <morph-> susundberg is right on though
[05:39] <morph-> cancel the command then reissue it with "screen" in front
[05:40] <morph-> like screen rsync blah blah
[05:40] <mojtaba> susundberg: Is that a command?
[05:40] <susundberg> by default, when you close the terminal connection the command being runned will die
[05:40] <morph-> then ctrl+a then d
[05:40] <susundberg> !package screen
[05:40] <morph-> it comes already installed
[05:40] <susundberg> mojtaba: yeah, its package and a shell command that you usually do after ssh login ok on remote machine
[05:40] <susundberg> it does, oh ok.
[05:41] <mojtaba> susundberg: it does not have man pasge
[05:41] <mojtaba> page*
[05:41] <morph-> yes it does
[05:41] <morph-> https://www.gnu.org/software/screen/manual/screen.html
[05:41] <morph-> theres an html version though
[05:41] <mojtaba> morph-: susundberg: thanks
[05:41] <morph-> np mojtaba
[05:42] <morph-> basically ur issuing a standing terminal window inside your window
[05:42] <morph-> screen command-you-want-to-run
[05:45] <sheer> wilee-nilee, squisher, thanks guys - I think my laptop was putting my USB into low power mode - I've blacklisted the mouse and it seems to be working now
[05:45] <wilee-nilee> sheer, cool, enjoy.
[05:52] <clone1110> which is the best firewall for ubuntu
[05:52] <clone1110> and is ubuntu secure form hackers out of the box
[05:53] <bazhang> !ufw | clone1110
[05:54] <clone1110> do i need to configure it ?
[05:54] <bazhang> clone1110, did you read the link?
[05:54] <clone1110> going there now
[05:54] <clone1110> thanks
[05:56] <n000b> why is the new gnome shell scaled by factor 3 or such? is that for kids now?
[05:56] <n000b> how do i adjust the dpi rendering settings for gnome-shell and gdm in trusty?
[05:57] <bazhang> n000b, try gnome-tweak-tool
[05:57] <n000b> its font size is 1.0
[05:57] <n000b> and it doesnt affect the icons and such
[05:58] <n000b> its ALL H U G E
[05:58] <n000b> such a bad experience :-/
[05:59] <n000b> every single iteration of ubuntu/gnome is a regression nowerdays :-( what happened to the beautiful experience of ubuntu ? )-:
[06:01] <itadm> test
[06:02] <Tex_Nick> itadm: you're seen
[06:03] <n000b> How can i configure my screen DPI general settings?
[06:03] <bazhang> http://askubuntu.com/questions/197828/how-to-find-and-change-the-screen-dpi n000b
[06:03] <n000b> can this really be so difficult?
[06:03] <xangua> n000b: gnome 3.12 has improved support for hdpi if you are into PPA's
[06:04] <n000b> depends from upstream of ppa
[06:05] <n000b> will an /etc/gdm/gdm.conf be honored by ubuntu gnome 14.04 x64?
[06:10] <luvs2spooge> Hey guys I am having a little problem with ubuntu
[06:10] <luvs2spooge> It's mostly when I am streaming media, the computer slows down to a hault
[06:11] <luvs2spooge> I have 16gb of memory so I don't know what the issue could be
[06:11] <luvs2spooge> Can anyone help?
[06:11] <b13> luvs2spooge: is your hardware good?
[06:12] <luvs2spooge> b13: it's pretty new. Only a year old
[06:12] <Corvette> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 14.04 and the boot disk comes up with "Cannot find a medium with a live file system". The hard drive is plugged in and boots into windows just fine. What's up?
[06:12] <luvs2spooge> Corvette: check your bios
[06:12] <Corvette> For what?
[06:12] <luvs2spooge> Corvette: boot sequence, boot from cd or whatever you are using to install
[06:12] <Corvette> It is booting from CD
[06:13] <Corvette> but Ubuntu is failing to boot in itself
[06:13] <luvs2spooge> Corvette: graphics card, possibly. go to the install window, press e, and look on google for different options for editting
[06:13] <aeon-ltd> luvs2spooge: memory isn't really gonna affect streaming
[06:14] <luvs2spooge> Corvette: then you will need to edit/update grub when you get to desktop. after installation
[06:14] <Corvette> luvs2spooge doesn't even get as far as install window
[06:14] <aeon-ltd> luvs2spooge: what cpu and gpu? what content are you streaming?
[06:14] <luvs2spooge> aeon-ltd: b13: well, I am streaming a loooot of stuff
[06:14] <luvs2spooge> aeon-ltd: porn
[06:14] <luvs2spooge> lot's and lot's of porn
[06:14] <b13> luvs2spooge: at the same time?
[06:15] <aeon-ltd> luvs2spooge: are you joking?
[06:15] <luvs2spooge> b13: yes, I can't seem to get it up from a single porno
[06:15] <luvs2spooge> aeon-ltd: no?
[06:16] <b13> hmm
[06:16] <b13> i don't know.
[06:16] <luvs2spooge> aeon-ltd: b13: what can I do to improve performance?
[06:16] <luvs2spooge> aeon-ltd: b13: I'm already behind schedule on my porno watching.
[06:17] <aeon-ltd> luvs2spooge: are you sure it's not your download speed?
[06:17] <luvs2spooge> aeon-ltd: I'm not downloading porno man. I'm not made of money.
[06:18] <bazhang> luvs2spooge, thats not welcome here, keep it on topic and family friendly
[06:18] <luvs2spooge> aeon-ltd: b13: Here is what it was freezing on just a moment ago; http://www.xvideos.com/video4152015/granny_fucked_in_the_mud_-_fantas
[06:18] <luvs2spooge> bazhang: understood
[06:18] <aeon-ltd> ay ay ay
[06:19] <bazhang> lets get back to ubuntu support please
[06:19] <b13> i never expected to see porn links in this channel
[06:37] <vivek> Vivek_VC
[07:01] <DMurray> Does anyone have any familiarity with the package 'screen'?
[07:02] <wilee-nilee> DMurray, Give a synopsis of the actual issue for help. ;)
[07:02] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Screen DMurray this one?
[07:02] <Obhur> is there anyway to install ubuntu on a mac?
[07:03] <DMurray> wilee-nille, Its not really an issue more a question and yes bazhang
[07:03] <wilee-nilee> DMurray, Right but this is support not polling.
[07:04] <wilee-nilee> !mac | Obhur
[07:04] <DMurray> well would you mind directing me to where I can pose this question
[07:05] <bazhang> http://askubuntu.com/questions/372951/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-macbook-pro-as-dual-boot Obhur
[07:05] <bazhang> DMurray, what question
[07:05] <DMurray> any just to get it out there, i'm looking for a way to run a command with a screen
[07:05] <Obhur> thanks wilee-nilee and bazhang
[07:06] <bazhang> DMurray, please give a bit more info, what command etc
[07:06] <DMurray> like screen -[unknownParameter] [nameOfScreen] ['command to be run within that screen']
[07:06] <DMurray> sorry for the confusion
[07:08] <Obhur> wilee-nilee: my Macbook Pro is 8,1 and does not have any Mactel
[07:10] <DMurray> Obhur: You can consider using VirtualBox to install Ubuntu
[07:10] <TheCure> YEs
[07:10] <TheCure> Virtual Box is what I'm using right now.
[07:11] <DMurray> Great tool and it's free
[07:11] <TheCure> Its fast aswell
[07:11] <Obhur> TheCure: DMurray do you have a link for the free virtual box?
[07:12] <DMurray> http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.3.12/VirtualBox-4.3.12-93733-OSX.dmg
[07:12] <Obhur> thanks DMurray
[07:12] <DMurray> You're welcome
[07:23] <blz> Hello!  What's the ssh command to get a remote host's fingerprint and print it to the console?
[07:24] <loaden> hi,does someone knows how to purge ibus? i prefer fcitx.
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> !purge | loaden
[07:24] <loaden> why unity depends on ibus?
[07:26] <loaden> lotuspsychje: ubottu: sorry,i dont got it.
[07:27] <bananabob> Hi, Anyone knows if you can execute a bash script in the same folder from inside a cgi-bin bash script? Is that allowed?
[07:27] <bananabob> right now it works fine from prompt but not from webserver, get a 500 error
[07:30] <amit_> hi
[07:32] <AlHafoudh> how to install 32bit mono on 64bit ubuntu?
[07:37] <jorenl_> Good morning everyone! I made one of my all-time low mistakes yesterday while installing ubuntu server on an old laptop. During the installation I thought I connected it to AC power, but well, I didn't. The battery ran out during installation. It doesn't even show me that initial manufacturer's boot screen. Any tips on where to go now?
[07:38] <wilee-nilee> jorenl_, reinstall it.
[07:38] <wilee-nilee> jorenl_, That should not affect the computers hardware
[07:39] <jorenl_> wilee-nilee: I meant, it doesn't even show me the initial manufacturer's boot screen. (i.e. press F12 for boot menu)
[07:39] <wilee-nilee> jorenl_, Can you boot the install disc from the f12 menu?
[07:40] <jorenl_> wilee-nilee: the screen does not show anything.
[07:40] <wilee-nilee> jorenl_, ah f12 is not showing the menu that is part of the firmware I would think, not sure how unless you git into it it would happen.
[07:41] <wilee-nilee> jorenl_, The scenario you describe just does not make sense to change the f12 option, at least to me anyway.
[07:42] <jorenl_> wilee-nilee: It was perfectly functional before though. I wonder if  it's not actually trying to boot.
[07:42] <jorenl_> wilee-nilee: I wonder if, when running out of battery, it tries to "wake from sleep" rather than actually boot
[07:43] <Ben64> jorenl_: probably a better question for ##hardware at this point
[07:43] <wilee-nilee> jorenl_, You might try #hardware. Could be you are not triggering the f12, power on and a tap that f12 like you were shooting at aliens. I assume the f12 is a known key prompt on this computer.
[07:43] <napcae> hey, after purging lightdm, my sound on the macbook does not work anymore if I startx, if I don't startx the sound works thought. I f start alsamixer from X I get "cannot open mixer: No such file or directory"
[07:44] <Ben64> wilee-nilee: i think you're misunderstanding. there is no f12 problem, there is not even a "hit f12" screen. the computer no longer goes through POST
[07:44] <wilee-nilee> Ben64, You are probably right.
[07:44] <wilee-nilee> napcae, don't use startx.
[07:45] <jorenl_> Ben64: That is indeed what I'm seeing. I'll try #hardware. The reason I came here is that there's always that small chance that someone experienced the same thing. (It was during an ubuntu installation after all)
[07:45] <aeon-ltd> napcae: how do you know sound works without starting x?
[07:45] <Ben64> jorenl_: yeah, but ubuntu doesn't control anything before it starts booting. i'm also in ##hardware and have a couple of suggestions, but I like keeping the channels on topic :)
[07:45] <napcae> well I purged lightdm
[07:46] <napcae> @ aeon-ltd
[07:46] <napcae> wilee-nilee: why not
[07:46] <wilee-nilee> aeon-ltd, My assumption was a startx to start X.
[07:46] <aeon-ltd> napcae: that didn;'t answer my question
[07:46] <napcae> I use mpd and ncmpcpp
[07:47] <aeon-ltd> ok
[07:47] <napcae> I can start alsamixer without any error messages
[07:47] <napcae> and I can play music. so I assume sound is working ;)
[07:47] <aeon-ltd> napcae: well lightdm was likely starting something like pulseaudio to handle it
[07:47] <napcae> yes and I don't know what and was hoping you guys could help me out
[07:47] <napcae> I don't see anything obvious in /etc/lightdm/*
[07:47] <Ben64> why would you purge lightdm?
[07:48] <napcae> nor in /usr/share/lightdm
[07:48] <napcae> because I don't need bloat
[07:48] <napcae> well maybe I do since it handled somehow my audio ;)
[07:48] <aeon-ltd> if you purged it wouldn't leave residual files right?
[07:48] <napcae> that was my second thought
[07:49] <aeon-ltd> so looking is useless now
[07:49] <napcae> but my history clearly stated that I didn't had a type
[07:49] <napcae> s/type/typo
[07:49] <napcae> ah that is what you meant
[07:49] <napcae> yeah true
[07:50] <napcae> so do you have any clues where I could look else?
[07:50] <napcae> the archwiki or ubuntu wiki isn't really helping me
[07:50] <Ben64> reinstall ubuntu-desktop or whichever flavor you like?
[07:50] <Ben64> i'm not sure how you decided that lightdm is bloat
[07:51] <napcae> Ben64: I'm only using ubuntu because it has the most convenient installation process
[07:51] <napcae> since apple is using EFI and I really didn't want to mess with mbr and so on
[07:51] <napcae> why would I want to use lightdm then
[07:52] <napcae> I don't see anything useful about it
[07:52] <Mito125> hi
[07:53] <Ben64> napcae: nothing useful? "LightDM is a display manager. The most user visible aspect of the display manager is the login screen, however it also manages the X servers"
[07:53] <aeon-ltd> napcae: try running alsamixer -c 1
[07:53] <Mito125> I installed a minimal ubuntu and lxde... But I can't now connect to wifi... I used wpa_supplicant to connect. Could you help me?
[07:53] <napcae> Ben64: yes and I don't need a login screen
[07:53] <napcae> you still didn't say why one should not use $startx
[07:54] <Ben64> you probably need your x server managed still
[07:54] <humbag> i think you can ask lightdm to auto log you in
[07:54] <Ben64> you can indeed, humbag
[07:54] <napcae> humbag: I don't want that though
[07:54] <napcae> aeon-ltd: invalid card index: 1
[07:54] <Mito125> dhclient wlan0 don't give me an address
[07:54] <aeon-ltd> napcae: there's no reason not to if you don't want to, i used startx (or shortened alias) to launch x every boot
[07:54] <aeon-ltd> napcae: try numbers 0-9
[07:55] <napcae> aeon-ltd: that is what I also think. >startx
[07:55] <napcae> aeon-ltd: same error messages with $number
[07:56] <humbag> when i use startx i have to use exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch openbox-session in my ~/.xsession
[07:56] <aeon-ltd> napcae: suggestions here http://askubuntu.com/questions/294807/ubuntu-12-04-alsamixer-not-found
[07:57] <aeon-ltd> napcae: if you really want no bloat though you shoulda started with minimal, or use a more barebones distro
[07:58] <napcae> I'm still figuring stuff out. I was gonna to use debian, but like I said ubuntu has the most fiddle free installation process
[07:58] <napcae> aeon-ltd: thank you so far though, I take a look at your link
[07:58] <aeon-ltd> napcae: with modern machines though, you shouldn't have to compromise on ux
[07:58] <wilee-nilee> aeon-ltd, startx is now deprecated it does not open X correctly.
[07:59] <aeon-ltd> wilee-nilee: ah ok, how long ago was this?
[07:59] <napcae> are you familiar with macbooks or EFI?
[07:59] <napcae> no fun
[07:59] <wilee-nilee> aeon-ltd, Not sure exactly.
[07:59] <aeon-ltd> napcae: well i have a pretty old macbook with linux dual boot
[07:59] <aeon-ltd> 08
[07:59] <aeon-ltd> wilee-nilee: is this true across all latest versions of X?
[07:59] <napcae> and have you tried to install other distros than ubuntu?
[08:00] <wilee-nilee> sudo start lightdm service I believe is correct with lightdm
[08:00] <wilee-nilee> aeon-ltd, I was wondering that my self, for example openbox
[08:00] <aeon-ltd> napcae: no, just ubuntu server. i can't remember but i may have had arch at one point
[08:01] <napcae> it was causing me some headaches you know^^
[08:02] <aeon-ltd> napcae: my trackpad sucks in linux though, even after a lot of tweaking. not even close to smoothness of osx
[08:03] <napcae> i use i3 and chromium+vimium
[08:03] <Mito125> help me please
[08:03] <napcae> so there is luckily a bare usecase for the mouse
[08:03] <humbag> wait if you're using mpd it should not care about lightdm or even if you are logged in
[08:04] <wilee-nilee> Mito125, Name the wifi hardware to the channel.
[08:04] <napcae> what are you trying to say humbag?
[08:04] <aeon-ltd> napcae: audio shouldn't change whether x is active or not, mpd runs in bg
[08:04] <napcae> and I'm not sure if this has anything to do with lightdm. I just describe the symptomps and causes
[08:04] <Mito125> wilee-nilee: I use wpa_supplicant follow this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188
[08:04] <humbag> actually sorry that might not be true in ubuntu, in debian mpd is started as a service as it's own user
[08:05] <wilee-nilee> Mito125, If you run lspci in the terminal you will see the hardware, post that to the channel not me.
[08:05] <napcae> I start it not as a service
[08:05] <aeon-ltd> ah
[08:05] <napcae> it is started after I login
[08:05] <wilee-nilee> Mito125, Just the wifi info is all
[08:06] <Mito125> Yes, I see network controller on lspci, and wifi settings are correct because One time  I  connect with this guide today
[08:07] <wilee-nilee> Mito125, One last time, name the actual wifi hardware, this for help here is pertinent.
[08:08] <Mito125> qualcomm Atheros AR2427
[08:08] <humbag> napcae: maybe this can help http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/PulseAudio
[08:08] <aeon-ltd> napcae: another suggestion, are you added to the audio group?
[08:08] <wilee-nilee> Mito125, Cool, thanks that should be helpful if someone knows. ;)
[08:09] <napcae> humbag: already checked that
[08:09] <napcae> aeon-ltd: no I'm not
[08:09] <aeon-ltd> napcae: add yourself
[08:10] <napcae> I don't think that will help
[08:10] <napcae> because I can start alsamixer if I did not start X yet
[08:10] <aeon-ltd> try it anyways, you can remove yourself after trying
[08:11] <napcae> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6710977a961a9b7e1fa3
[08:13] <aeon-ltd> napcae: try launching alsamixer by /usr/bin/alsamixer
[08:13] <napcae> nope
[08:13] <napcae> already tried it
[08:13] <aeon-ltd> yeah as you can see i'm getting desperate now
[08:13] <napcae> also, $which alsamixer => /usr/bin/alsamixer
[08:13] <napcae> haha
[08:13] <napcae> me too
[08:13] <napcae> that's why I'm reaching out to you
[08:13] <napcae> it is not like I was already trying :)
[08:14] <YamakasY> when I want to run 32 bits programs on 64 bits systems... do I need a 32 bit mirror for this ?
[08:15] <lnxslck> no
[08:15] <lnxslck> you just need the 32bit application
[08:15] <lnxslck> and multilib enabled maybe
[08:15] <aeon-ltd> + deps of course
[08:15] <YamakasY> ok so I can remove my 32 bits mirror ?
[08:16] <wilee-nilee> YamakasY, Where did you find a 32 bits mirror?
[08:18] <wilee-nilee> YamakasY, The ubuntu mirrors have both, you would as suggested have to be app specific on an install.
[08:18] <ItsMeLenny> would it be safe to put the g++ libs from 14.04 onto 12.04?
[08:18] <YamakasY> wilee-nilee: uhm, it's just there
[08:19] <YamakasY> wilee-nilee: but the 32 bits libs are also in 64 bits mirrors ?
[08:19] <wilee-nilee> ItsMeLenny,  Not supported here, and a bad idea in general.
[08:20] <wilee-nilee> YamakasY, As far as I know, there are no ubuntu repos with only 32 or 64 bits only.
[08:20] <ItsMeLenny> oh ok
[08:20] <ItsMeLenny> would this be safe? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/test
[08:20] <YamakasY> wilee-nilee: you can select what you want to mirror
[08:21] <wilee-nilee> YamakasY, I said that already, you have in your language syntax said 32 bit mirror and should you remove it. I think this is a language issue here.
[08:22] <wilee-nilee> !ppa | ItsMeLenny
[08:22] <YamakasY> wilee-nilee: uhm, no ? I have a 64 bits and 32 bits mirror... do I need a the 32 bits mirror to run 32 bits packages in 64 bits installs...
[08:22] <wilee-nilee> YamakasY, What is your native language?
[08:23] <ItsMeLenny> yea
[08:23] <YamakasY> wilee-nilee: dutch
[08:24] <wilee-nilee> YamakasY, I can't help you, I was just trying to understand why you kept saying "32 bit mirror" that makes no sense is all.
[08:24] <YamakasY> wilee-nilee: a 32 bits mirror contains the 32 bits packages only
[08:24] <wilee-nilee> YamakasY, Never heard of a 32 bit only ubuntu mirror.
[08:25] <YamakasY> wilee-nilee: here check... you can select what you want: http://unixrob.blogspot.nl/2012/05/create-apt-mirror-with-ubuntu-1204-lts.html
[08:26] <wilee-nilee> YamakasY, That is making you own mirror, you have not said that.
[08:26] <wilee-nilee> your*
[08:26] <YamakasY> wilee-nilee: I said I HAVE!
[08:27] <wilee-nilee> YamakasY, You also said "<YamakasY> wilee-nilee: uhm, it's just there" that does not indicate you even know when, where or how it is there.
[08:28] <YamakasY> wilee-nilee: I said earlier I HAVE
[08:28] <YamakasY> or didn't I ?
[08:28] <YamakasY> never mind..
[08:28] <YamakasY> I have it :D
[08:28] <wilee-nilee> YamakasY, Anyway we are arguing a point that was only to get the gist of the issue and understand. ;)
[08:30] <YamakasY> wilee-nilee: yes, so... do I need to have 32bits packages available to run in 64 bits ? when grabbing it from a mirror
[08:30] <YamakasY> my precise/trusty mirror is already 400GB atm and I don't like that
[08:30] <wilee-nilee> YamakasY, I'm not sure. I would give the end goal on this and the actual packages for best help here is all. ;)
[08:31] <YamakasY> wilee-nilee: haha indeed... but do we still want to have a 32bits mirror ?
[08:32] <wilee-nilee> YamakasY, For size and if that is what you want it seems usable, but this is outside my knowledge which is limited anyway.
[08:32] <wilee-nilee> YamakasY, I just use the ubuntu mirrors myself.
[08:34] <YamakasY> wilee-nilee: I have about 200-400 server so ...
[08:34] <wilee-nilee> YamakasY, Ah, sounds like a handful.
[08:34] <Waykool99> i'm in Ubuntu Studio v14.04 LTS 64 bit Live CD Run. have a couple questions, before i do an Install...
[08:35] <YamakasY> wilee-nilee: haha LOL
[08:35] <wilee-nilee> Waykool99, Go ahead to the channel.
[08:36] <cfhowlett> Waykool99 or ask here or in #ubuntu-studio
[08:36] <Waykool99> under Wired Connection 1, tab General, i see "Firewall Zone".  is there a software based FW running?
[08:37] <cfhowlett> Waykool99 by default, firewall is available but disabled.
[08:37] <cfhowlett> !ufw
[08:37] <Waykool99> thank God its disabled. and thank you.
[08:38] <wilee-nilee> hallelujah from the backup singers
[08:39] <Waykool99> i stopped using FW's 14 years ago w/Zonealarm in Win 98
[08:41] <Waykool99> noticed Bluetooth icon on upper taskbar. does BT's function work off Wireless adapter or some other protocol?
[08:43] <wilee-nilee> Waykool99, Internal if you have one or an adapter a usb most likely.
[08:44] <wilee-nilee> probably an adapter included with a bluetooth device
[08:44] <Waykool99> have several belkin usb wireless adapters. wondering what the possibilities might be?
[08:45] <ItsMeLenny> if i have 2 versions of g++ installed, how would i go about directing the g++ command from the g++-4.6 to the g++-4.8 command, preferably without writing over g++
[08:46] <wilee-nilee> Waykool99, I think you will have to experiment most likely. I think most computer from some point had internal bluetooth.
[08:47] <dey> does openssl collects connection attempts somewhere?
[08:47] <dey> openssh* ofc
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> !info denyhosts | dey
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[08:48] <wilee-nilee> might try find lotuspsychje
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> !info fail2ban | dey
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: seems like they removed denyhosts from trusty
[08:49] <k1l> dey: auth.log in /var/log/
[08:49] <dey> looks like it
[08:49] <dey> k1l: thanks
[08:51] <Waykool99> thank you wilee. using BT w/cellphone and several BT devices- ear buds, speakers, xbox bt (no, i don't own an xbox. just bought it because the quality is much better than the old motorola bt's.)
[08:54] <Waykool99> thank you very much for your help.  off to do install...
[09:08] <Yogesh> hello
[09:13] <K|NgGh0sT> So I have a drive that won't mount, dmesg says it has errors. It isn't mounted umount /dev/sdc1 says so, but when i fsck /dev/sdc1 it says it's busy/in use. What can I do?
[09:18] <Wug> K|NgGh0sT: I suggest you reboot into recovery mode and use the fsck option
[09:24] <antoine163873> ho !
[09:24] <antoine163873> ed$
[09:25] <K|NgGh0sT> Wug, I'll try a live c
[09:25] <K|NgGh0sT> Wug, I'll try a live cd
[09:31] <MagicSpud> hello I recently installed cairo dock on my ubuntu system and added an app called RSS how do I get channels?
[09:32] <Kartagis> MagicSpud: right clicking on it should allow you to add "channels"
[09:52] <clone1110>  i installed Tails on a 16 GB sony USB, tried making a persistent volume it says this volume isnt created using the Tails installer
 i  looked up the Tails documentation , isohybrid is the Tails USB creator
 will I be able to create a persistent  volume if I created a  Tails USB created using isohybrid
 or do i need two USB
[09:52] <cfhowlett> clone1110 tails is not supported here.  sorry
[09:52] <clone1110> sorry bye
[09:53] <clone1110> where do i go...?
[09:53] <cfhowlett> clone1110 look on the tails site for support options -
[09:53] <clone1110> okie
[09:53] <Waykool99> i tried Tails on USB Thumb.  have best luck on DVD-R, putting in password, using the Linux Swap. am aware thats dangerous.
[09:54] <clone1110> yeah it doesnt take pwd
[09:54] <clone1110> Tails doesnt save anything, nothing persist's
[09:54] <clone1110> like a RAM rtkt
[09:56] <clone1110> why cannot i get tor browser running in ubuntu, get some error msg 32bit 64 bit
[09:56] <Waykool99> if you format a Encrypted USB Thumb to ext4, then run DVDR of Tails, you can save to Thumb, make sure and check Permissions.
[09:56] <clone1110> how do i do that...
[09:57] <clone1110> whats DVDR
[09:57] <clone1110> i think i formatted using FAT, do i need to format using ext4
[09:57] <Waykool99> have 1 SATA and 2 IDE old drives.  create just Linux Swap on old drive. gives you more speed. risky? probably.
[09:59] <Waykool99> actually, let Tails format to whatever it wants. it might do MBR and format fat32. not positive.
[10:01] <clone1110> i used unebootin
[10:01] <clone1110> should i use the isohybrid
[10:01] <Waykool99> when you manually create Linux Swap for 2 different distros on the same hard drive, is the rule Swap should be 1.5x or 2x?
[10:02] <Ben64> this is not the right channel for tails support
[10:02] <clone1110> i am not installing two distro on one drive,just wanna save data on one drive
[10:02] <clone1110> sorry
[10:04] <clone1110> why cannot i get tor to work on ubuntu
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> !tor | clone1110
[10:04] <clone1110> get some error 32 bit 64 bit when i try and start the browser
[10:05] <clone1110> okiee
[10:05] <Guest88131> <3 ubuntu team. You are so awesome. I'm going to buy swag as a token of appreciation and love.
[10:05] <Waykool99> curious. i'm installing ubuntu studio v14.04 LTS 64 bit -plus- ubuntu studio v10.04.4 LTS 32 bit on the same drive. yet not sure Grub v1.99 will be over-written by 14.04's upgrade?
[10:06] <cfhowlett> Waykool99 if you install grub again, it WILL overwrite
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> !studio | Waykool99
[10:07] <cfhowlett> Waykool99 skip the new grub install.  reboot.  sudo update-grub
[10:07] <Waykool99> also in window ubuntustudio. sorta seems everybodys afk.
[10:08] <Guest88131> hum.. swag is out of stock. Where's the button for sending money?
[10:09] <Waykool99> in v10.04 i loved you could install Grub GUI. select which OS came up and it allowed up to 100 seconds to make a decision.
[10:13] <Waykool99> in ubuntu desktop v14.04, does it use LXDE, Unity or Xfce GUI?
[10:14] <cfhowlett> Waykool99 yes it can use all of those.  unity is the default
[10:14] <DJones> Waykool99: Ubuntu uses Unity, Kubuntu used KDE, Lubuntu uses LXDE (all by default)
[10:14] <cfhowlett> !flavors
[10:15] <Waykool99> great. but is it possible to install -or- give it the 'Gnome 2' gui look?
[10:15] <cfhowlett> !gnome
[10:16] <Waykool99> yikes. by installing gnome-shell, could it cause conflicts with Unity or other gui's?
[10:17] <cfhowlett> Waykool99 unlikely ...
[10:17] <Waykool99> great
[10:17] <Waykool99> thank you
[10:17] <cfhowlett> Waykool99 happy to help
[10:18] <Waykool99> cfhow, you've just answered a question i asked many ubuntu users who couldn't answer. thank you x3
[10:18] <Waykool99> started on ubuntu desktop v7.10 32 bit.
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> how can i change homepage of webbrowser-app?
[10:29] <Waykool99> doing channel search for 'gparted', 'partition', 'harddrives'. no results. Simple search. am i searching wrong?
[10:30] <lotuspsychje> Waykool99: trying to find what exactly?
[10:31] <Waykool99> want to partition several things between 3 drives, 1 SATA 3 TB, plus 2 old IDE 80 GB drives.
[10:31] <lotuspsychje> Waykool99: use gparted?
[10:32] <Waykool99> tried Gparted -and- Testdisk in both Ubuntu and Knoppix live cd runs.
[10:33] <Waykool99> and used Gparted burned cd r from their website
[10:33] <Waykool99> 3 TB requires not MBR, but rather GPT (GUID Partition Table)
[10:34] <lotuspsychje> Waykool99: whats your end goal? to install ubuntu on reparttioned drive?
[10:35] <lotuspsychje> Waykool99: you can use the manual partitioning from ubuntu setup, for your specific layout aswell
[10:35] <Waykool99> my goal, call me insane. 4 GB fat 16 partition to install win 3.11 for workgroups, a FAT 32 partition for win 98se, a NTFS partition for win xp media center edition, 2 separate Ubuntu versions.
[10:36] <Obhur> is there a way to install a live USB of Ubuntu on a Mac without rEFIt?
[10:37] <Waykool99> want to learn about partitioning Flags. found out fat 32 likes the LBA flag. ubuntu ext 4 doesn't like LVM flag.
[10:37] <KGM70> \o
[10:37] <cfhowlett> !maObhur
[10:38] <cfhowlett> !mac|Obhur
[10:39] <Waykool99> have good friend. has Mac OSX on 1/2 hard drive, win 7 on other half of hard drive. not sure what his Bootloader is but its not Grub.
[10:39] <cfhowlett> Waykool99 most likely refit which is the recommended solution for dual booting with OSX
[10:40] <Waykool99> nods. yes likely right.
[10:40] <metallico> i have mine installed inside virtualbox
[10:40] <cfhowlett> metallico also a worthy option
[10:41] <Waykool99> metallico, for Linux?
[10:41] <metallico> no, i have installed virtualbox on my mac
[10:42] <Waykool99> been trying for years to understand and install a VM. scratches head.
[10:47] <metallico> virtualbox is free and opensource but there is also parallels desktop which is commercial and very popular on macs
[10:48] <metallico> i use both but i like parallels more because it is optimised for mac
[10:48] <metallico> they are both easy to install (simple wizards)
[10:49] <metallico> then you load the ubuntu image as one of the drives and install it as if it was a PC
[10:52] <ItsMeLenny> i'm trying to find libglfw3 and it seems to be listed here http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libglfw but im a bit confused
[10:54] <llutz> ItsMeLenny: available only for utopic, which is not available yet. more info on #ubuntu+1  maybe
[10:54] <joe_dm> Hi
[10:54] <joe_dm> Is there a special trick to enable root ssh login in ubuntu 14?
[10:54] <llutz> joe_dm: no, its a bad idea. login as user, use sudo
[10:54] <ItsMeLenny> oh, llutz that's bizarre as cocos2d-x 3 says is made for 12.10 and it would need it
[10:55] <Obhur> ubottu: i opened the link you gave me and i find MacBook Hardware Revisions and Ubuntu version-specifics so that means which ubuntu version will work with my computer hardware?
[10:55] <joe_dm> llutz assuming I want to use root anyway and know its a bad idea is there a trick to it?
[10:55] <Obhur> hello guys, i opened the link you gave me and i find MacBook Hardware Revisions and Ubuntu version-specifics so that means which ubuntu version will work with my computer hardware?
[10:56] <MonkeyDust> Obhur  try a live dvd or usb first, to get an idea
[10:56] <metallico> type "sudo bash"
[10:56] <MonkeyDust> Obhur  and read the /topic to find out what versions are supported
[10:56] <Obhur> live DVD works fine, but of course very slow and i cannot save setting. Live USB does not work at all
[10:58] <llutz> metallico: use sudo -i to get a root-shell with a clean env
[10:59] <pi0tr> ?
[11:00] <Obhur> MonkeyDust: now i keep reading a lot about rEFIt, but it no longer works, i see that the version is 4 years old. and the Ubuntu version-specific for my macbookbro 8,1 is not there
[11:01] <ItsMeLenny> thanks for the helps
[11:02] <ilovebtc> hey guys
[11:02] <ilovebtc> someone who can help me with installing drivers for nvidea 750 ti ??
[11:07] <DanNL> Hello.
[11:07] <DanNL> What is the name of the Linux Mint-IRC-server?
[11:07] <DJones> !mint
[11:08] <DanNL> O, sorry. But I used Linux Mint and use now Xubuntu, but I made a lot of friends in the IRC-channel of LM.
[11:09] <Dinosaurio> Hi. Is there any way to restart notifyOSD process? thanks
[11:10] <Dinosaurio> ?
[11:11] <__raven_> 14.04 extreme network problems with wired and wireless nic. connection crashes, extremely slow connections, no dns - whats that and how to solve
[11:11] <Dinosaurio> Hi. Is there any way to restart notifyOSD process? thanks
[11:12] <DanNL> !mint
[11:12] <Dinosaurio> I'm using Ubuntu.
[11:12] <DanNL> !mint
[11:12] <DanNL> Sorry.
[11:13] <DanNL> I checked something, but they don´t help...
[11:13] <Dinosaurio> ?
[11:14] <DanNL> What is the server of LM?
[11:14] <DanNL> I am asking only that...
[11:14] <Ben64> DanNL: and ubottu told you twice already
[11:14] <OerHeks> Dinosaurio, just kill the process and it will start again > pkill notify-osd
[11:14] <Dinosaurio> OerHeks: okay, thanks
[11:14] <DanNL> Ubottu is a bot, isn´t it?
[11:14] <DanNL> O, sorry.
[11:15] <DanNL> Not a bot :P .
[11:15] <DanNL> :S
[11:15] <DanNL> A smart bot :P .
[11:15] <Ben64> DanNL: go to that irc server if you want, or not. but stop with the offtopic in this channel please
[11:16] <DanNL> But I don´t know the name :P .
[11:16] <DanNL> I can´t see him in the networklist.
[11:17] <Ben64> then you need to learn to read, because ubottu already gave you the irc network and channel for mint support. if you can't figure that out, oh well, but please stop with the offtopic comments in this channel
[11:17] <DJones> DanNL: Ubottu has given you the IRC network and channel name twice
[11:18] <DanNL> No, that is the channel on Freenode. They are on a other server, but wich?
[11:18] <DanNL> an other.
[11:18] <Ben64> DanNL: seriously? read the message ubottu gave you more carefully. the server is in that message as well.
[11:18] <IdleOne> DanNL: type /server irc.spotchat.org and then type /join #linuxmint-help
[11:18] <DJones> DanNL: Read what the bot told you, it gives you the other server
[11:18] <DanNL>  /server irc.spotchat.org
[11:19] <DanNL> server irc.spotchat.org
[11:20] <IdleOne> Sometimes new users end up on freenode because irc clients are setup tp automatically join here. Patience and clearer instructions folks :)
[11:23] <ilovebtc> HOWTO modifie xorg conf in failsafe mode? in /etc/X11 i find only xorg.failsaife.conf and something with nvidea ...
[11:27] <__raven_> 14.04 extreme network problems with wired and wireless nic. connection crashes, extremely slow connections, no dns - whats that and how to solve
[11:31] <sinnay> i m trying to install OSSEC hids on ubuntu but "ossec-remoted" is not working.....it says: "ossec remoted: Process 5642 not used by ossec, removing..
[11:31] <sinnay> what can be the problem?
[11:35] <ais523_> I just bought a new PC, and I'm trying to install Ubuntu, but I'm having problems creating a bootable USB stick here. I have access to: the new PC itself (running Windows 8.1, no Internet access), and a work computer, running Scientific Linux and with Internet access but no root permission; and a USB stick that isn't marked as bootable
[11:36] <ais523_> any ideas about what to do? does Wubi still exist? if so, I could install that to the USB stick, use it to get a working Ubuntu on the new laptop, then use that to make the USB stick bootable and install Ubuntu "properly"
[11:39] <Axis_> I'm thinking about switching to Linux. When it says LTS is for certain amount of days/years etc. What happens when it ends, I won't be supported or?
[11:39] <OerHeks> ais523_, no wubi for win 8, try virtual box or install side-by-side
[11:40] <ais523_> OerHeks: the problem is making the USB stick bootable
[11:40] <joe_dm> ais523_ I would use yumi to create bootable USBs
[11:40] <ais523_> Axis_: you have to upgrade before the end of the support period
[11:40] <OerHeks> !unetbootin
[11:40] <Axis_> Does it cost to upgrade?
[11:40] <ais523_> Axis_: so you can be supported forever, as long as you keep upgrading
[11:40] <ais523_> and no, the upgrades are free
[11:40] <Axis_> If I upgrade, will it wipe everything out or?
[11:40] <ais523_> just the Ubuntu devs don't want to have to provide security updates for 20-year-old versions
[11:41] <ais523_> and no, it doesn't wipe anything, if it works correctly (and it normally does)
[11:41] <Axis_> How do I know when a version is about to run out?
[11:41] <ais523_> it's like upgrading to a new version of Windows, except that the new version is free
[11:41] <joe_dm> Axis_ It just means support ends, Upgrades are free. The main shift would be a learning curve but everyone here is super helpful
[11:41] <Axis_> So. Would I have to place the new version on a CD, or could I just download the upgrade?
[11:41] <ais523_> Axis_: most versions run out after 18 months (there's a new version every 6 months)
[11:41] <ais523_> once it's already installed, you can download the upgrade
[11:41] <ais523_> you're prompted to upgrade
[11:41] <Axis_> It will pop it up for me?
[11:42] <ais523_> yep
[11:42] <ais523_> just after doing a software update, it says "a new version's available, would you like to upgrade?"
[11:42] <OerHeks> cd is old, current versions need dvd
[11:42] <Ben64> ais523_: 9 months now for normal releases, not 18
[11:42] <ais523_> Ben64: ah right
[11:42] <ais523_> and 5 years for LTS
[11:42] <ais523_> which is what the current version is
[11:42] <Axis_> Ais, thank you for these tips. I'm currently using Windows 7, not really fond of Microsoft or any of their products. I'm getting tired of them.
[11:42] <joe_dm> Axis_ alot of stuff in Ubuntu is run from command line but there are also ways doing things in the GUI, I would suggest getting used to command line. To upgrade there are a few simple commands you run and it just grabs everything you need from the internet.
[11:43] <Axis_> Thank you, Joe.
[11:44] <Axis_> This might be off topic.
[11:44] <davis> hello
[11:44] <joe_dm> Axis_ Somebody else will probably tell you its a few clicks in the GUI but I don't even use a GUI since it mostly just do servers
[11:44] <Axis_> I was thinking about going with Lubuntu, it seems generic and easy to use.
[11:44] <rusbus> Hello. I installed Ubuntu on a VM but I didn't give it enough space so I increased the virtual drives space and then using gparted iso I expanded my partition (everything on one partition) to take up the new space but my ubuntu doesn't seem to believe that it has new space. Does anyone have an idea what I can do to fix this?
[11:44] <ais523_> OerHeks: basically my problem is just getting the bootable USB stick
[11:44] <Axis_> With Lubuntu, would it be the same thing "To update, it will pop up and I'll just download?"
[11:44] <ais523_> actually, hmm
[11:44] <joe_dm> Axis_ If you just want to chat in general the you can join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:45] <Axis_> Thank you.
[11:45] <ais523_> what I could do, is download a Windows program for making USB sticks bootable, run that on Windows 8, and I think that solves my problem, I'll let you know how that goes
[11:45] <Axis_> Is it the same with Lubuntu?
[11:45] <davis> i am running a 12.04 ubuntu computer.  For some reason every night it reboots. Any idea why?
[11:45] <diddy> keine deutschen hier?
[11:45] <ais523_> Axis_: Lubuntu is Ubuntu with different default settings; the support and everything is the same, but the programs that come with it are different
[11:46] <joe_dm> Axis_ Lubuntu is really still just Ubuntu in the back end with customization.
[11:46] <Axis_> It says it's 18 month LTS. After 18 months, a message will pop up "Do you want to upgrade?" the same with Ubuntu?
[11:47] <joe_dm> Axis_ To be honest I never really pay attention to the LTS and support periods etc, As long as you don't let it get super old you will probably never notice.
[11:48] <Axis_> Yeah, but. I want to keep up with the new versions. For Lubuntu, will it remind me that it's time to update?
[11:48] <joe_dm> Axis_ Should do.
[11:49] <Axis_> Thank you Joe and Ais. I appreciate the help.
[11:49] <joe_dm> Axis_ If I was using Ubuntu Desktop I would go for the full Ubuntu myself though unless it was an old machine
[11:50] <joe_dm> maybe try them both and see what you like.
[11:50] <Axis_> Well. My Laptop is really good, I just heard with Lubuntu it extends the battery life.
[11:50] <Axis_> I have a Desktop, I just want on my Laptop extended battery life.
[11:50] <joe_dm> Yeah but it won't look as pretty :P
[11:50] <Axis_> Which would be better? Linux Lite, Zorin SO, or Lubuntu?
[11:51] <joe_dm> Each to their own, For a laptop I can understand.
[11:51] <joe_dm> Ubuntu has a lot of support, how-to's, community and its easy to find answers on google. Thats why I keep coming back.
[12:02] <ais523_> OK, for people wondering how it was getting on: using the non-root Linux install to download a Windows bootable USB creator, then using that on the new Windows computer to make the USB stick bootable, worked
[12:05] <sudhir> hii
[12:05] <sudhir> sss]
[12:05] <Guest31707> aw
[12:09] <davis> hello
[12:10] <davis> i am really stumped. I have a ubuntu computer which appears to either log me out or reboot overnight. Power settings in the system settings applet say that it is set to never suspend.
[12:10] <compdoc> it ever crash or freeze?
[12:10] <davis> it never crashes or freezes
[12:11] <davis> its just that after I leave work and return the next day, it will show the choose user login screen.
[12:11] <davis> i think that is the XDM or GDM screen
[12:12] <davis> not sure what that screen is called, but once I login all my terminals and applications are gone. Its like I am logging into a rebooted computer.
[12:14] <alex8694> Guys, I'm looking for a list of preinstalled default applications for Ubuntu based operating systems (Xubuntu, Lubuntu etc.). Does a list like that exist? Or how would I go about making my own?
[12:20] <ais523_> alex8694: try typing "apt-cache showpkg ubuntu-desktop", that lists all the programs that are installed in Ubuntu specifically (rather than Kubuntu, Lubuntu, etc.)
[12:20] <ais523_> likewise for kubuntu-desktop, etc.
[12:20] <ais523_> I think there's a way to get the default applications that are in all the Ubuntus generally, but I can't remember what it is
[12:22] <alex8694> Okay, will try that. Was just wondering if there was a list comparing all the distros and their applications.
[12:24] <gotwig> hey, which filesystem do you recommend for easy home directory exchange between windows 7, mac os x, ubuntu and fedora?
[12:24] <gotwig> I tought about ext4
[12:25] <DJones> gotwig: I don't think windows is 100% comfortable with EXT* file systems
[12:25] <gotwig> DJones: i know I have to install tools. same goes for mac
[12:25] <gotwig> NTFS drivers are a bit slow on linux, no?
[12:26] <DJones> gotwig: At least, last time I tried, the tools/driver didn't always work
[12:27] <gotwig> So what can I do
[12:28] <abdulla> hi
[12:29] <Orpheon> Hello, I have a lot of files with ugo+r permissions, yet I can't cd into the directories or read anything
[12:29] <Orpheon> is this normal?
[12:29] <DJones> gotwig: Its not something I use, with USB sticks, I use FAT32 for access in Windows & Linux
[12:29] <gotwig> I tried Ubuntu with ntfs home partition 2 years ago
[12:29] <gotwig> and I had problems
[12:30] <Orpheon> or I can rephrase my question: Is there any reason I could not cd into a folder with permissions drw-r--r--
[12:30] <Orpheon> ?
[12:30] <DJones> gotwig: Yeah you would doing that, ntfs wouldn't respect the file permissions, I'd have a seperate partition as FAT32 to share files between the different os's
[12:31] <DJones> gotwig: And just use the other partition for data/audio/movie files etc
[12:31] <DrZaius> i know both ubuntu 10.04 and java 6 are not supported anymore... but is there a way to install it? cisco webex requirements for linux is ubuntu 10.04 and java6.. I just want to test the "requirements" that are listed
[12:31] <makara> davis: any number of things: check power settings, crontabs for all users, check memory on next reboot
[12:32] <gotwig> DJones: what you can do it set hard links on the directories. If you do that there is physicaly no difference anymore
[12:32] <gotwig> DJones: only on music, videos documents
[12:32] <gotwig> DJones: u know?
[12:32] <makara> gotwig: exFAT
[12:32] <DJones> gotwig: Sorry, that I don't know
[12:33] <gotwig> DJones: Hard links are links which point to the same file node
[12:33] <davis> makara: i'm looking at syslog. It does not look like it rebooted. It looked like the screen locked and then it could not be resumed. at least to my untrained eye.
[12:33] <gotwig> So there is no difference
[12:33] <gotwig> makara: I dont really know what exfat is
[12:33] <davis> makara: the cron jobs ran about everyhour. These cronjobs are there by default, i did not add them.
[12:34] <makara> gotwig: FAT for large disks
[12:34] <makara> gotwig: best you create a network and Samba the whole things together
[12:34] <davis> makara: Jun  3 07:29:56 infamous gnome-session[14585]: WARNING: Session 'gnome-classic' runnable check failed: Exited with code 1
[12:34] <davis> that is what makes me think it simply died.
[12:35] <gotwig> makara: I think you cant d worse tha this
[12:35] <gotwig> Samba is sooo slow
[12:35] <gotwig> I want to killmyself
[12:36] <makara> gotwig: what is slow?
[12:36] <gotwig> Samba
[12:36] <makara> gotwig: define slow
[12:37] <gotwig> makara: low disk i/o
[12:37] <Timvde> Hi. I used http://www.how2posts.com/2014/05/how-to-install-bumblebee-in-ubuntu-1404.html to install the latest nvidia drivers for bumblebee. Now, when I want to install python3-pyopencl, it depends on ocl-icd-libopencl1, which conflicts with nvidia-libopencl1-331. Is there any way to force-install python3-pyopencl and let it use nvidia-libopencl1-331instead?
[12:39] <ais523_> Timvde: you can use apt-get download to download the package and the dependencies you want, and dpkg -i --force-depends to force-install the downloaded package without worrying about dependencies; however, this isn't really recommended, as a) it almost certainly won't work, and b) it might damage your system
[12:40] <ais523_> the only way it'd work would be if python3-pyopencl actually does work with nvidia-libopencl, and the packagers screwed up and forgot to mark that as being a combination that works
[12:41] <ais523_> like, if either worked, the packager could write "depends: ocl-icd-libopencl1 | nvidia-libopencl1-331", and they didn't, and they probably had a good reason to not do that
[12:41] <Timvde> ais523_: I found this bug that looks related: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wine1.6/+bug/1313123
[12:41] <dk_> hi
[12:41] <Timvde> Reading it now :)
[12:42] <Timvde> ais523_: Well, I know for sure that it doesn't work if I just do the switch, so I have nothing to lose by taking the bet :)
[12:42] <ais523_> Timvde: that implies that the broken dependency is a Recommends, not a Depends
[12:43] <ais523_> in which case, sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends python-pyopencl would work
[12:43] <ais523_> try that anyway, that's much safer than force-installing, because Recommends means "this program needs this package for full functionality in most cases, but might not need it in unusual installations"
[12:43] <ais523_> and dpkg/apt-get won't complain about that, just won't do it by default
[12:43] <Timvde> ais523_: No, I already tried that, it's a "depends" relation
[12:44] <ais523_> right
[12:44] <ais523_> in that case, the bug report probably isn't 100% relevant
[12:45] <ais523_> the problem with a missing Depends relation is that package managers can't do their job until it's fixed, or at least, don't want to
[12:45] <ais523_> I've only ever used --force-depends once, and it was to fix a system after it crashed in the middle of a distro upgrade
[12:45] <Timvde> ais523_: Damn, it didn't work indeed. Ah well, I could try :P
[12:46] <ais523_> if you /did/ force-install the package and it didn't work, you're going to need to dpkg -r the package you just force-installed
[12:46] <ais523_> in order to get the system back to a working state
[12:49] <Timvde> ais523_: Thanks. I'll try to look further how to solve this. I may need to downgrade my nvidia driver then.
[12:57] <spearson> Hi
[12:57] <Armag3dd0n24> if i plug my samsung phone in to my ubuntu 14.04 on my pc, will i need any software?
[12:58] <fidel___> to achive what?
[12:58] <spearson> I'm trying to upgrade to v14.04 and get the following error Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/freerdp/libfreerdp1_1.0.2-2ubuntu1_amd64.deb Hash Sum mismatch
[12:58] <fidel___> Armag3dd0n24: if you want just to access the storage - it should work out of the box
[13:00] <Armag3dd0n24> thank you
[13:00] <ais523_> spearson: that means there was a glitch in the download, often it'll work if you try again (it did for me)
[13:00] <spearson> okay
[13:00] <spearson> should I try from a different server or something?
[13:01] <ais523_> that often helps, yeah, might be that the file's corrupted on the server
[13:01] <ais523_> the hash mechanism's basically to make sure that you don't get a corrupted or maliciously altered file
[13:02] <spearson> #ais523_ it's stuck at the end, fetching file1500 of 1500 right now
[13:02] <spearson> which means it could error again so I'll try from a different servier
[13:02] <spearson> server*
[13:13] <ice9> unity started after login without panels and window title bar,  I tried to reset and delete .config/compiz and reinstalled unity but still!
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> ice9: have you tried restarting Unity?
[13:14] <ice9> whenwhsdlfksd
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> well, compiz
[13:15] <ice9> ActionParsnip: yes it say unknown job unity-panel-service
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> ice9: run:  compiz --replace
[13:15] <ice9> ActionParsnip: nothing happened
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> ice9: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> ice9: its a single line, so no need to pastebin
[13:18] <ice9> action Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> ice9: if you login as a new user, is it the same?
[13:20] <ice9> ActionParsnip: yes
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> ice9: if you boot an older kernel, is it ok?
[13:21] <ice9> I haven't tried but I think it will not work, because it was just working fine for months and just after a reboot , this happened
[13:29] <c3l> What image viewer can you recommend? I haven't found anything that 1) preloads images for fast browsing 2) can rotate images 3) good quality scaling preview 4) does not mess up existing metadata (exif data)
[13:30] <c3l> eye of gnome and gthumb where really slow for showing next image
[13:32] <OerHeks> c3l, standard image viewer or shotwell are nice.
[13:34] <c3l> OerHeks, what is the standard? is it not eye of gnome? pressing "right arrow" to show next image is really slow. also I looked at shotwell, its not really built for viewing single images? I dont want some system that tries to cataloguize my images, I already have a structure for them :)
[13:37] <bobo69> I've never noticed this before. Does anyone know why my processes names have unprintable characters and negative numbers? http://imgur.com/JaFC9ag
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> bobo69: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> bobo69: is your system set to a non-english language?
[13:41] <bobo69> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[13:41] <bobo69> no, just 64 bit english ubuntu
[13:42] <bobo69> ActionParsnip:
[13:43] <xubuntu572> pls help my kern.log is 400gb(!!!) big and i have no idea whats cuasing the problem im a linux newbie - syslog is 160gb big
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> xubuntu572: use tail to read the last few lines, what does it imply?
[13:43] <xubuntu572> tail?
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> xubuntu572: yes, tail
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> xubuntu572: you could laso rotate them manually to reduce. This may apply: http://pario.no/2007/12/07/rotate-logs-manually/
[13:45] <hubelibuub> hi! i was about to install ruby from the ubuntu software center, but hesitated because of this comment: "Warning This Program Has A Virus!!!!!!!!!! PUA<---". Does anybody know if this is true?
[13:45] <xubuntu572> sorry i am a total newbie
[13:45] <tecnologia> buenos dias alguien me puede ayuda como configurar escritorio remoto en xubuntu
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> xubuntu572: use the tail command in a tewrminal, to read the last few lines in a file
[13:46] <cfhowlett> !es|tecnologia
[13:46] <xubuntu572> what is the command?
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> xubuntu572: what is the full path of the log file?
[13:47] <ais523_> xubuntu572: tail /var/log/kern.log
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> ais523_: aww i wanted to make the user think....
[13:47] <cfhowlett> hubelibuub use the command line.  sudo apt-get install ruby
[13:47] <ais523_> ActionParsnip: it's easier to work out how it works after you've seen a few examples
[13:48] <xubuntu572> un  3 11:53:53 tristan-desktop kernel: [49682.332702] Read(10): 28 00 1a 77 77 b1 00 00 01 00 Jun  3 11:53:53 tristan-desktop kernel: [49682.332715] sd 4:0:1:0: [sdc] Unhandled error code Jun  3 11:53:53 tristan-desktop kernel: [49682.332716] sd 4:0:1:0: [sdc]   Jun  3 11:53:53 tristan-desktop kernel: [49682.332718] Result: hostbyte=DID_BAD_TARGET driverbyte=DRIVER_OK Jun  3 11:53:53 tristan-desktop kernel: [49682.332720] sd 4:0:1:
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> ais523_: I like to lead them to water
[13:48] <xubuntu572> i have no idea what this means
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> xubuntu572: have you ran an fsck on your HDD from liveCD, sounds like its dying
[13:49] <alazare619> I have a ati radeon hd 2600xt its my only gfx card and I have 0 onboard what version can I run and still get updates on that supports that ati-driver?
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> xubuntu572: also run Memtest from Grub to test RAM
[13:49] <ais523_> fsck checks the software level
[13:49] <ais523_> there's a command to check the hardware too, but I forget what it is offhand
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> ais523_: testdisk possibly
[13:49] <shunya_chakra> Hi, for ubuntu where can i get 'libstdc++"
[13:49] <xubuntu572> yes i ran testdisk yewsterday
[13:49] <OerHeks> hubelibuub, that is just 1 comment of a funny user, ignore it please
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> xubuntu572: what did you run exactly?
[13:50] <xubuntu572> i was trying to find a lost partition
[13:50] <shunya_chakra> !help libstdc++
[13:50] <xubuntu572> analyse and deep analyse
[13:51] <OerHeks> !find libstdc++
[13:51] <xubuntu572> i let it run overnight
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> xubuntu572: there is the ultimate boot cd. It has the disk testing tools from the main drive manufacturers. It tests art a ow level and will tell you if the drive is failing
[13:51] <shunya_chakra> thanks OerHeks, he listens to u :P
[13:51] <xubuntu572> that is another problem no cd is being read
[13:52]  * cfhowlett beginning to suspect massive hardware failure is imminent
[13:52] <e^> xubuntu572: what is the lost partition?
[13:52] <e^> xubuntu572: in the first menu there is the intel/pc, gpt etc.
[13:52] <xubuntu572> the reason i switched to linux was i had some rootkit / trojan
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> xubuntu572: hold SHIFT at boot, select the Memtest from Grub as a good start
[13:53] <xubuntu572> how can i hide all those joined messages?
[13:53] <iceburned> for what deadbeef is?
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> iceburned: its a kickass media player
[13:54] <xubuntu572> action parsnip thanks will do this
[13:55] <tim_> Is someone familiar with telling me why my nb boots very slow if i give a bootchart log?
[13:56] <iceburned> cannot stardict library build now?
[13:57] <iceburned> how to install stardict library?
[13:57] <shunya_chakra> !find libstdc++.so.6
[13:57] <cfhowlett> iceburned stardict?  from the star office suite?  no longer made IIRC.
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> tim_: if you run:  dmesg | less        look for large gaps in the time on the left hand side, this is the number of seconds since the kernel came online.
[13:58] <iceburned> so, what is another stardict? isn't there another stardict?
[13:59] <cfhowlett> !info stardict
[13:59] <cfhowlett> iceburned sudo apt-get install stardict         should do it.
[13:59] <iceburned> cfhowlett how about the library?
[14:00] <cfhowlett> iceburned no idea beyond what's above
[14:00] <iceburned> has the developer not develop it again>
[14:00] <cfhowlett> iceburned entirely possible
[14:03] <helmut_> hi
[14:08] <g0th> hi
[14:08] <g0th> hi
[14:08] <g0th> somehow my keyboard layout has changed
[14:09] <g0th> why and how can I change it back
[14:10] <cfhowlett> g0th settings > keyboard >
[14:10] <g0th> there is only typing and shortcuts
[14:10] <g0th> when I click text entry
[14:10] <g0th> then I see some layouts
[14:11] <g0th> but they are correct
[14:11] <g0th> not wrong
[14:11] <g0th> hmm
[14:11] <cfhowlett> g0th logout/login
[14:11] <g0th> that doesnt help
[14:12] <g0th> super + space seems to solve it
[14:12] <g0th> somehow the layout was changed (probably I accidently hit super + space)
[14:12] <g0th> but it didn't show that anywhere
[14:12] <g0th> not even in the system settings
[14:13] <g0th> I had to figure out that this was the shortcut to change it
[14:13] <g0th> (which I did now)
[14:14] <cfhowlett> g0th that's some good detective work there, Lou!
[14:14] <eren> what's the proposed vay for upgrading from 12.04 to 14.10?
[14:15] <eren> I use encrypted disks
[14:15] <cfhowlett> eren 14.10 isn't available until October
[14:15] <eren> I can reinstall ubuntu, but how does it handle encrypted drives? I don't want to lose my /home
[14:15] <eren> ops. 14.04 sorry
[14:15] <ais523_> eren: I believe upgrading via 14.04 would probably be the best option for that
[14:16] <ais523_> 12.04 to 14.04 is a "one LTS to the next" upgrade, that's one of the cases they test
[14:16] <Gallomimia> if your /home directory is not backed up on to a separate (encrypted) disk, it must not be that important
[14:16] <Gallomimia> so you can afford to lose it. don't worry about it
[14:16] <ais523_> but my advice would be to backup /home, backup your list of installed packages, then attempt to do an upgrade directly
[14:16] <eren> Gallomimia: I cannot afford to lose it actually
[14:16] <ais523_> if that fails, reinstall without overwriting /home (only possible if /home is on a separate partition)
[14:17] <ais523_> if you have really important files, always back them up before upgrading
[14:17] <Gallomimia> do-release-upgrade is the command for you
[14:17] <nicklas_> hello, anyone knows the installed size of kubuntu and xubuntu, are there a big difference between them? been looking after the info on google, cant be found anywhere.
[14:17] <eren> ais523_: yeah, /home is seperated
[14:17] <ais523_> nicklas_: kubuntu's going to be bigger but not by much, IIRC
[14:17] <Kotov> http://www.twitch.tv/sindicsgo
[14:17] <Gallomimia> eren: they  fact is if they were that important to you you'd have a backup already
[14:17] <tmmunq> which encryption are you using? the builtin full disk encryption? or just the home encryption?
[14:17] <eren> tmmunq: builtin full disk encryption
[14:17] <eren> I guess it uses dm-crypt
[14:18] <eren> if ubuntu handles already encrypted disks at install, it would be fine, I will just download the image and re-install without touching /home
[14:18] <jhutchins> nicklas_: You can install both in less than 10G.
[14:18] <eren> and I will mount /home to /dev/sda6
[14:18] <nicklas_> ais523_: i have a ultrabook, with 24 gb ssd and 700ich gb hdd, dont want the os to be too big, so i can fit it on the ssd, plus some games, and use the hdd as /home
[14:18] <nicklas_> jhutchins: ais523_: i have a ultrabook, with 24 gb ssd and 700ich gb hdd, dont want the os to be too big, so i can fit it on the ssd, plus some games, and use the hdd as /home
[14:18] <nicklas_> oops
[14:18] <eren> how's that handled in 14.04?
[14:18] <jhutchins> nicklas_: The base system is the same, the difference is the desktop environment.
[14:19] <nicklas_> yeah
[14:19] <cfhowlett> eren doable
[14:19] <ais523_> I just installed Ubuntu, and although I've installed a bunch of packages since
[14:19] <Gallomimia> eren: i actually have things not-backed-up on several computer's home directories which i cannot afford to lose. the real point is that you should do a backup before starting any of this
[14:19] <ais523_> it's currently at 6GB with an effectively empty /home because I haven't restored it from backup yet
[14:19] <tmmunq> eren: then if you reinstall you will lose everything. upgrade, dont install over it
[14:19] <ais523_> kubuntu will be slightly larger, IIRC, xubuntu/lubuntu slightly smaller
[14:19] <ais523_> but probably not by enough to make 6GB a bad approximation
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> nicklas_: set the 24Gb as / with swap, /var and /home on the platter based drive
[14:20] <Gallomimia> the installer for 14.04 server is what i used to get a lot of options like that. if there's no raid, installer for 14.04 desktop has good dm-crypt support
[14:20] <eren> tmmunq: the thing is, I have seperate /home in another partition. It is encrypted. My question is does ubuntu ask for password or setup things at install time for already encrypted partitions?
[14:20] <ais523_> eren: there's an advanced option in the installer that lets you choose which partitions do what and which ones to keep around
[14:20] <nicklas_> ActionParsnip: ok, that will be ok if i want too use it for gaming? its got a nvidia optimus card as well
[14:20] <ais523_> the main reason to make backups is if something goes wrong, or if you make a mistake configuring the partitioner
[14:21] <eren> yeah sure, let's roll with backup then
[14:21] <ais523_> nicklas_: that depends on how the games are installed, but if they install into /opt or /usr, which are the two most likely places, that setup will work pretty well
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> nicklas_: sure, the OS on SSD will make things nice and whizzy.
[14:21] <Gallomimia> you should roll with an automated backup that does it every day.
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> nicklas_: not sure about Optimus, never used it and never will
[14:21] <ais523_> most of the games I've seen for Linux from places like Humble Bundle and Ubuntu Store use /opt
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> ais523_: steam uses home as storage
[14:22] <Gallomimia> doesn't have to
[14:22] <nicklas_> well, its not a gaming rig, but it will most certainely work for most games on steam and the oss shooters
[14:22] <sprung> Hi. While getting squared away with my TorGuard VPN, which works great and I'm really happy with, I have somehow inadvertently caused my DNS servers not to update via DHCP when I change networks/VPN's. I'm forced to manually edit /etc/resolv.conf to fix the problem, and it's really annoying. Please help.
[14:22] <wer0ckz> hi guys. i'm using win7 and vmware kali linux (i guess this is ubuntu). how can i add specific resolution?
[14:22] <Gallomimia> plus it allows symlinks
[14:22] <ais523_> ActionParsnip: hmm right, not a fan of steam
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> nicklas_: I recommend urban terror :)
[14:22] <nicklas_> i had a gaming stationary, and gaming laptop, but wanted an ultrabook now
[14:23] <nicklas_> yeah, ive played most oss shooters, my favorites is warsow and open arena though
[14:23] <nicklas_> sauerbraten is pretty fun too, but oa and warsow is better if you wanna play fast
[14:25] <us> Good morning all, I have a silly upgrade question regarding Xubuntu.
[14:27] <clone1110> how to harden secure ubuntu
[14:27] <clone1110> is there anything i need to do
[14:27] <us> nobody is talking today
[14:27] <clone1110> i am
[14:27] <us> yes, good morning clone
[14:27] <tmmunq> http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/how-secure-ubuntu-1204-lts-server-part-1-basics
[14:28] <ais523_> there are a few people talking, but I don't know the answer, so I thought there wasn't much point in answering
[14:28] <trijntje> us, we cant answer if you dont ask a question ;)
[14:28] <clone1110> very good morning
[14:28] <tmmunq> theres also nsa's guide to hardening redhat, most of theyre recommendations are good, but applying some of them to ubuntu can be tricky...
[14:28] <clone1110> so what do i apply to redhat
[14:28] <sprung> Hi. While getting squared away with my TorGuard VPN, which works great and I'm really happy with, I have somehow inadvertently caused my DNS servers not to update via DHCP when I change networks/VPN's. I'm forced to manually edit /etc/resolv.conf to fix the problem, and it's really annoying. Please help.
[14:28] <clone1110> do i need a firewall ?
[14:29] <ais523_> Ubuntu ships with a firewall, which I think is enabled by default for fresh isntalls
[14:29] <sprung> Also when I change the DNS entries manually in NetworkManager those settings are not applied to resolv.conf
[14:29] <clone1110> any configuration changes needed
[14:29] <arcsky> i have installed ubuntu server with just openssh as service, how can i get more info regarding: tcp 0 0 localhost:6010 *:* LISTEN
[14:29] <cfhowlett> ais523_ NOT enabled by default
[14:29] <us> trijntje, I asked about upgrading Xubuntu.  can it be upgraded from LTR to LTR or do I have to go through each step?
[14:29] <ais523_> right, just checked, it isn't
[14:29] <cfhowlett> !server|arcsky
[14:30] <ais523_> us: the only upgrade patterns are LTS to LTS, or any release to the next one
[14:30] <ais523_> so 12.04 to 14.04 should be fine
[14:30] <tmmunq> how will ubuntu be named after Z?
[14:30] <cfhowlett> us depends; 12.04 and 13.10 can directly upgrade
[14:30] <arcsky> cfhowlett: can you please be a bit more specific thanks
[14:30] <ais523_> the problem with firewalls on servers is, if you're accessing the server remotely (and you normally are)
[14:31] <cfhowlett> arcsky suggest you ask the "experts" in #ubuntu-server channel
[14:31] <ais523_> it's quite easy to accidentally firewall out the connection you're using and then you can't connect any more
[14:31] <us> ais523, I have my upgrade manager set to alert me to LTS only, but it never alerted me.  The option is not there.
[14:31] <arcsky> cfhowlett: gr8 thx
[14:31] <darius93> is it possible to overclock my cpu in linux like I could on windows?
[14:31] <ais523_> darius93: the CPU overclock is a setting of the computer itself, not the OS; so the answer is probably "yes but the instructions depend a lot on the manufacture of the computer"
[14:32] <us> Im running 12.04, but the new release is out.
[14:32] <trijntje> us, no, it will wait untill the 14.04.1 release to make sure its absolutely stable
[14:32] <cfhowlett> us wait until July for 14.04.1
[14:32] <ais523_> trijntje: aha, that makes sense
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> us: LTS to LTS upgrades are supported and part of why LTS exists
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> us: if Precise works I'd keep it, it is fully develoiped for and suppored til April 2017
[14:33] <us> Oh, very good.  Is that something new?  In the past, it would tell me to upgrade.  Thats a good idea to get the bugs out first.
[14:33] <makara> ~.
[14:33] <leeyaa> hello
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> us: no, its been that way forever
[14:33] <darius93> ais523_, hmm in windows amd overdrive works, but on linux, aticonfig say my cpu isnt supported?
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> us:  you dont have to upgrade if you dont want
[14:33] <us> Well, my machines must be set up wrong...lol.  There was never a delay before.  Not that I remember.
[14:34] <cfhowlett> us 12.04 has five years support life
[14:34] <leeyaa> i get lots of /dev/dm-3: read failed after 0 of 4096 at 0: Input/output error errors from lvm. probably someone removed a disk at some point? how to remove dm-3 from the lvm setup (i dont see dm-3 in fdisk or anywhere)
[14:34] <us> Either way, thats good to know.
[14:34] <us> Thanks for the info
[14:34] <darius93> brb
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> us: np :)
[14:34] <nicklas_> anyone knows if that bug with the additional drivers tab crashing because of a typo in the config file for software properties have been solved?
[14:34] <module000> nicklas_: a typo in the config file is the bug - not the response to it
[14:35] <us> Action, I like to stay current.  Im not crazy about updating as soon as the release comes out.  I have made that mistake before
[14:35] <nicklas_> module000: thats what i meant, sorry. but is the bug fixed? cant seem to find the bug atm
[14:35] <us> Nothing like having an upgrade go bad or eliminate wireless drivers and such
[14:36] <module000> nicklas_: is the typo in your sources.list? if so, just parse it with apt and it will scream at you which line is incorrect
[14:36] <sprung> Hi. While getting squared away with my TorGuard VPN, which works great and I'm really happy with, I have somehow inadvertently caused my DNS servers not to update via DHCP when I change networks/VPN's. I'm forced to manually edit /etc/resolv.conf to fix the problem, and it's really annoying. Please help.  Also when I change the DNS entries manually in NetworkManager those settings are not applied to resolv.conf
[14:36] <us> Ok, thanks again guys.  I thought I was doing something wrong
[14:36] <module000> sprung: using openvpn?
[14:36] <sprung> module000, yes
[14:36] <erlaya> yes
[14:37] <sprung> module000, but it happens with every network not just my vpn
[14:37] <module000> sprung: use network manager's openVPN plugin to configure it. if you manually use it, it wont' update your resolv.conf, and since your resolv.conf just points to a local dnsmasq, you won't get resolution
[14:37] <erlaya> can you remote satelite.????
[14:37] <sprung> module000, So, I did that, but what I'm trying to convey here is what I set as the DNS server never actually applies
[14:38] <nicklas_> module000: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1268134
[14:38] <sprung> module000, setting the DNS server in NetworkManager does nothing
[14:38] <skinux> How was it we disable all Ubuntu "spyware"?
[14:38] <sprung> module000, how do I verify dnsmasq is working
[14:39] <module000> sprung: it shouldn't have any effect on your resolv.conf - when you set it in networkmanager, networkmanager tells your dnsmasq instances to start forwarding to those new servers. it's not the typical /etc/resolv.conf setup we are used to
[14:39] <skinux> Also, should Ubuntu take up 20G out-of-the-box?
[14:39] <sprung> module000, so the editing the resolv.conf is the workaround because all other attempts to set my dns fail
[14:40] <module000> sprung: you got it. make sure your dnsmasq is running normally by doing a "ps aux | grep dnsmasq" and making sure the instance includes --enable-dbus=<foo>
[14:40] <sprung> module000, it's not running
[14:40] <module000> nicklas_: doesn't look like that one is fixed :(
[14:41] <module000> sprung: that's the problem - you need to re-enable your dnsmasq/resolvconf setup. do you recall how you got it to the state it is in?
[14:41] <nicklas_> module000: no, and it has been reported for a long time, think ill just go with qt instead
[14:42] <sprung> module000, no, because i was trying  a bunch of different types of ways to use TorGuard (openvpn, pptp, a couple of others) and must have torqued it
[14:42] <module000> sprung: you could try reinstalling them with apt-get install --reinstall
[14:43] <module000> sprung: it's a pretty convuluted set of files though configuring those nm/resolvconf/dnsmasq to work they way they do though. it may need some manual adjustment to get working again
[14:44] <sprung> ok. testing now.,
[14:46] <nicklas_> so, if i install kubuntu instead of xubuntu, there wont be any difference in installed size? i mean xubuntu has lightweight apps, kubuntu does not?
[14:47] <ais523_> nicklas_: there will be a differnece, but only a minor one
[14:47] <ais523_> although, the libraries needed for the KDE apps are pretty large
[14:47] <ais523_> if you have no KDE programs anywhere on your system, that's actually a noticeable disk saving
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> nicklas_: xubuntu is slightly smaller if memory serves, not by a whole lot
[14:47] <ais523_> but if you have at least 1, there's no real penalty to having more
[14:51] <dbugger> Hello guys. I am running into a problem when installing RVM. Can someone help me understand what is happening? http://askubuntu.com/questions/476254/error-installing-rvm
[14:53] <holstein> dbugger: have you asked them what the requirements are? and made sure you are meeting them?
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> dbugger: did you run the apt-get command in your post?
[14:53] <teh_squid> hi, i'm having a weird issue sharing certain folders through Nautilus, if I share a folder from the user's home directory, and enable guest access, it works fine, but if I share a folder from a 2nd hard drive with the same settings, clients cannot connect and are told they do not have permissions.  Any ideas what I should be looking for?
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> teh_squid: what file system is the other partition using?
[14:54] <dbugger> ActionParsnip, what apt-command? In the tutorial it fails on the first line, the "curl"
[14:54] <teh_squid> ActionParsnip, ext4
[14:54] <dbugger> holstein, requirements for what? I dont understand
[14:54] <nicklas_> thanks all for your answers, you know who you are :-D
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> dbugger: search your own link for the words "apt-get"
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> teh_squid: is it mounted readable etc, is it a pure user data partition?
[14:55] <syeekick> quickest way via terminal to check disk speeds?
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> dbugger: it's all there, telling you what to do. All you had to do was read.....
[14:55] <dbugger> ActionParsnip, ah! I get the same problem with libssl, that there is at the end of the log
[14:56] <teh_squid> ActionParsnip, mounted, readable locally, purely for user data
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> seere: sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sda
[14:56] <dbugger> ActionParsnip, when I try to install libssl-dev I get that problem of unmet dependencies
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> teh_squid: have you chowned the data to your user?
[14:56] <excessluggage> I got excited when hdparm told me my hardrive was doing 33 mbps
[14:57] <teh_squid> ActionParsnip, i am a bit new to linux, I have used the context menu in Nautilus to set the permissions the same as they are for the working folder in user's home directory
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> teh_squid: use terminal to chown, much easier
[14:58] <ais523_> context menu's pretty easy too
[14:58] <teh_squid> ActionParsnip, who should I chown it to?  root or the user?
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> teh_squid: your user
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> teh_squid: what is the mount point of the partition?
[14:59] <jango42> Hi guys
[14:59] <dbugger> ActionParsnip, I cant because of the "unmet dependencies"
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> dbugger: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[15:01] <dbugger> ActionParsnip, "Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l"
[15:01] <teh_squid> ActionParsnip, /media/htpc/data
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> teh_squid: then run:  sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /media/htpc/data
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> teh_squid: run it as your user
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> teh_squid: the variables will sort themselves
[15:03] <yetanotherx_> Hi, I'm getting a segmentation fault when I'm loading the X server on my computer (Nvidia Quadro FX 1300, Ubuntu 12.04, proprietary driver 173.14.39). The fault occurs at /usr/lob/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so, and no matter what I try, it keeps segfaulting. Anyone have any ideas?
[15:03] <mojtaba> Hi, Is this command correct? ssh user_ssh@domain mysqldump -u "db_user" -p"db_pass" dbname >dbname.sql ?
[15:04] <ikonia> yetanotherx_: try it using a fail safe driver like vesa
[15:04] <ikonia> mojtaba: why do that over ssh
[15:04] <yetanotherx_> I switched to the failsafe xorg, which didn't help.
[15:04] <ikonia> mojtaba: run it on the box locally
[15:04] <nicklas_> are there any good qt docks?
[15:04] <ikonia> yetanotherx_: configure xorg to use vesa
[15:04] <dbugger> ActionParsnip, I fixed it, by enabling the "updates" repository
[15:04] <ikonia> nicklas_: please don't cross-post your questions
[15:04] <yetanotherx_> The failsafe xorg does use vesa.
[15:05] <mojtaba> ikonia: I want to make cron job
[15:05] <ikonia> mojtaba: right, so make a cron job on the mysql server
[15:05] <ikonia> yetanotherx_: then you'll need to analise any errors/stack trace that comes out of the seg fault
[15:05] <yetanotherx_> The segfault occurs in libglx.so
[15:05] <ikonia> yetanotherx_: or address an audit of your hardware to make sure there are no hardware problems/faults
[15:06] <mojtaba> ikonia: What is the difference? (I mean why it is not a good idea to do it locally?)
[15:06] <nicklas_> ikonia: sorry, but dont know which channel to get the best response
[15:06] <yetanotherx_> That's all I can make out of it.
[15:06] <holstein> yetanotherx_: try the open driver.. the "failsafe" should be working with vesa.. confirm that.. if the vesa driver is not working, i would be testing the hardware
[15:06] <ikonia> mojtaba: there is no password authentication to deal with
[15:06] <ikonia> mojtaba: because there are no network dedencies
[15:06] <ikonia> mojtaba: it's simpler/clear
[15:06] <yetanotherx_> I don't know I'd test the hardware, though.
[15:06] <ResupineEarth> hello
[15:07] <mojtaba> ikonia: Thanks
[15:07] <yetanotherx_> It was working fine until I restarted my computer
[15:08] <holstein> yetanotherx_: well, restarting hardware typically doesnt break it.. unless the hardware is bad or failing.. was there something else that could have triggered it? an upgrade? adding a PPA? removing a source?
[15:08] <yetanotherx_> I did run lots of apt-get installs and apt-add-repositories since my last install...
[15:09] <ikonia> yetanotherx_: removing libglx (disable glx) in the xorg.conf
[15:09] <creyc> im running ubunutu minimal in a virtualbox, but having a hard time trying to increase the screen resolution. xranr shows only 640x480 option
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> creyc: doyou have a desktop UI?
[15:09] <skinux> Should Ubuntu be using 20G disk space out-of-the-box?
[15:09] <holstein> creyc: you can just ssh into the minimal text based one from another machine
[15:10] <creyc> yes, using lxde
[15:10] <holstein> creyc: that is not the minimal, then
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> creyc: do you have the additions instaled?
[15:10] <creyc> i started with minimal, installed lxde
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> holstein: its a great way to get a minimal ubuntu ISO :)
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> OS sorry
[15:11] <holstein> ActionParsnip: i dont debate that.. im just saying, its not the minimal ubuntu runing in virtualbox
[15:11] <creyc> ActionParsnip, i think thats what i need to do
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> creyc: good first step
[15:11] <mexi_d3> skinux, Trusty desktop defaults to about 4-6GB installed + swap equal to the size of main memory
[15:11] <holstein> minimal doesnt have X, and that vm does.. i agree.. add the guest additions
[15:11] <creyc> well to be fair holstein, when i shutdown x im still in 640x480
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> whats the packagename of GUI useraccounts icon and can it be purged safely, so only adding users from terminal is possible?
[15:12] <holstein> creyc: im just trying to be correct.. not really worried about fair
[15:12] <creyc> figure of speech
[15:12] <creyc> no need to be so pedantic
[15:13] <skinux> Hmm. I installed with a seperate SWAP partition and Ubuntu has 20G disk space used already. If Ubuntu is already present, does the installer simply repair instead of completely reinstalling?
[15:13] <excessluggage> i suspect he does coding - pedantism happens
[15:13] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: why would you need that ?
[15:13] <holstein> creyc: im just trying to get you the assistance you need.. "ubuntu minimal" means something.. and it doesnt imply lxde use
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: i want to find a way, other users cant poke around the userlist..
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> skinux: it may be offered. I'd suggest wiping clean if the instaled OS has issues
[15:14] <skinux> Installed os is fine, just didsnt expect 20G used.
[15:15] <ikonia> jgama [~jgama@2607:fad8:4:6:1051:82fd:b9fe:b583] has joined #ubuntu
[15:15] <ikonia> jgama [~jgama@2607:fad8:4:6:1051:82fd:b9fe:b583] has joined #ubuntu
[15:15] <ikonia> lotuspsychje 1.) then can see /etc/passwd so that won't work 2.) the gui needs sudo to run
[15:17] <module000> lotuspsychje: you can't conceal the user list. any user could open a terminal and type `getent passwd` and bypass anything you have done to conceal it. that's not a security risk though, passwords aren't stored there
[15:18] <lotuspsychje> module000: so there's no way to prevent users seeing other /home/username?
[15:18] <module000> lotuspsychje: you can prevent them seeing INSIDE those directories, but not from seeing that they exist
[15:18] <en1gma> im running ubuntu 14.04 x64 off my sata hdd. when i turn power on and boot up. i see post but usually where i can select what to boot at the ubuntu os selection where you can select memtest86 the screen is black with the regular ubuntu burgandy border. im fully updated with ubuntu updates
[15:19] <teh_squid> ActionParsnip, RE: fileshare issues, no luck after chown, still same error
[15:19] <module000> en1gma: working as intended. press escape the moment you see that screen if you need the GRUB menu
[15:19] <ikonia> lotuspsychje I don't know why you are trying to hide this
[15:19] <en1gma> iahhh ok. thanks
[15:19] <en1gma> trying now
[15:19] <lotuspsychje> module000: ok tnx, but lets say i just want to hide the GUI userlist icon?
[15:19] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: why though ?
[15:19] <module000> lotuspsychje: disable or remove it's .desktop entry.
[15:19] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: they can't run the tool without sudo
[15:20] <en1gma> in ubuntu shutdown screen why is there no restart option or is there a trick to select that or tip
[15:20] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: lets say one needs a user so the fbi cant find on your system, its never possible?
[15:20] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: lets not make up silly situations
[15:20] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: lets ask real questions and real reasons and try to get real solutions
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: hiding a user is a real question, so is encrypting data for a user
[15:21] <iceburned> how to decrease the heat on laptop when we use 14.04
[15:21] <module000> lotuspsychje: POSIX requires that the user list be accessible, that's just the way it is.
[15:21] <ikonia> lotuspsychje I don't know why you are trying to hide a user - and if so this is the wrong way to go about it
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: well whats the right way then?
[15:22] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: it would be better if you explained the real issue and why it's a problem, and we can offer realistic suggestions then
[15:22] <xangua> en1gma: I see both the restart option in the power indicator and in the shut down popup
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: ive read in the past its possible to addusers a hidden way
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> useradd or adduser?
[15:22] <module000> lotuspsychje: you were misled
[15:23] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: again - tell us the real problem / why - and we can try to help you find a solution
[15:24] <en1gma> xangua your right. my bad
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: my real problem was my first question..how can i purge the useraccounts icon
[15:25] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: right, why would you want to do that ?
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: why does it matter what i want to do with my stsem?
[15:25] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: your right, it doesn't matter, it's your system to break as you see fit
[15:26] <OerHeks> lotuspsychje, you can hide all users, not just 1. > lightdm.conf: [SeatDefaults] greeter-hide-users=true
[15:26] <ikonia> that will not hide users
[15:26] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: thank you, i already have those tweaks enabled
[15:26] <ikonia> that will just not display them in the login box
[15:27] <OerHeks> oh, i thought that was the question :-(
[15:27] <lotuspsychje> module000: well tnx ill remove the desktop entry
[15:31] <flolila> help
[15:31] <lotuspsychje> !ask | flolila
[15:31] <flolila> D=57799 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=39256 DPT=53 LEN=59 ]
[15:31] <flolila> Jun  3 11:10:49 tristan-desktop kernel: [47100.988587] [UFW AUDIT] IN=lo OUT= MAC=00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:08:00 SRC=127.0.0.1 DST=127.0.0.1 LEN=107 TOS=0x00 PREC=0xC0 TTL=64 ID=57800 PROTO=ICMP TYPE=3 CODE=3 [SRC=127.0.0.1 DST=127.0.0.1 LEN=79 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=57799 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=39256 DPT=53 LEN=59 ]
[15:31] <flolila> Jun  3 14:44:39 tristan-desktop kernel: [   14.465898] [UFW AUDIT] IN= OUT=lo SRC=127.0.0.1 DST=127.0.0.1 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=1436 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=38328 DPT=53 LEN=40
[15:31] <flolila> Jun  3 14:44:39 tristan-desktop kernel: [   14.465926] [UFW AUDIT] IN=lo OUT= MAC=00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:08:00 SRC=127.0.0.1 DST=127.0.0.1 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=1436 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=38328 DPT=53 LEN=40
[15:31] <flolila> Jun  3 14:44:39 tristan-desktop kernel: [   14.465945] [UFW AUDIT] IN= OUT=lo SRC=127.0.0.1 DST=127.0.0.1 LEN=88 TOS=0x00 PREC=0xC0 TTL=64 ID=1437 PROTO=ICMP TYPE=3 CODE=3 [SRC=127.0.0.1 DST=127.0.0.1 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=1436 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=38328 DPT=53 LEN=40 ]
[15:32] <flolila> Jun  3 14:44:39 tristan-desktop kernel: [   14.465958] [UFW AUDIT] IN=lo OUT= MAC=00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:08:00 SRC=127.0.0.1 DST=127.0.0.1 LEN=88 TOS=0x00 PREC=0xC0 TTL=64 ID=1437 PROTO=ICMP TYPE=3 CODE=3 [SRC=127.0.0.1 DST=127.0.0.1 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=1436 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=38328 DPT=53 LEN=40 ]
[15:32] <unopaste> flolila you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[15:36] <Trudko> Guys I am trying to resize windows partition and  linux swap to get extra space for my ubuntu installation. I have used gparted live usb. Partion are in this positions -> Windows partition  - Ubuntu - swap. I have resize swap from left to get extra space for ubuntu. I am able to resize windows parition from right to get extra space but I cant merge it with ubuntu partition
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> Trudko: resize Windows partitions in Windows dude, way easier
[15:38] <Palomino> can someone tell me how to get Terratec Home Cinema 6.xx working on Ubuntu 14.04 ?
[15:39] <CrowX-> how can I install firefox 30 or firefox 32?
[15:39] <Palomino> The latest release of Firefox on Ubuntu 14.04 is 29.0.x
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> Palomino: http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/TerraTec_Cinergy_Piranha
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> Palomino: you may find a PPA
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | Palomino
[15:40] <Palomino> ok cool
[15:40] <Palomino> i go watching
[15:40] <Trudko> ActionParsnip: well I can resize it I cant merge newly created empty space with ubuntu which is on right from it
[15:41] <CrowX-> Palomino, but aren't there a way to install ff32? Like, some other repository or something
[15:41] <Palomino> CrowX : You can type on a cmd line box : sudo apt-get install firefox
[15:41] <yetanotherx_> ikonia: For some reason, Section "Module" // Disable "glx" // EndSection isn't disabling it. :/
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> Trudko: once you make free space from the windows partition you can use the ubuntu live CD to do the rest
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> Trudko: obviously be sure your backups are up to date before starting
[15:42] <Palomino> maybe after the command  : sudo apt-get update
[15:42] <TeraJL> i'm using synapse indicator but i can't set the shortcut and no shortcut is working now anyone knows a fix?
[15:42] <TeraJL> on ubuntu 14.04
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> TeraJL: from the elementary os PPA?
[15:44] <leeyaa> hello, lvm hangs for some reason whatever i try to do. this is strace output http://bpaste.net/show/337083/ it seems like it just stops and it is doing nothing but it doesnt succeed either
[15:44] <Trudko> ActionParsnip: I am using gparted live usb righ tnow
[15:44] <TeraJL> ActionParsnip: no, from ppa:noobslab/apps
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> TeraJL: have you contacted the PPA maintainer
[15:45] <Trudko> and right now I have windows parition newly created empty space ubuntu and swap. I want to merge emtpy space with ubuntu partion
[15:45] <CrowX-> Palomino, that will install ff29
[15:46] <Palomino> CrowX : sorry, maybe you first have to download the 'source' files / then build a new version from that. i dont know at this moment.
[15:46] <Tros> Hi there! My ubuntu system just froze, and I was forced to pull the plug. Now, in windows, you can run chdsk. I've read about "touch /forcefsck", but I have also read that's is dangerous to check a mounted filesystem. Will "touch /forcefsck" check the disks mounted. Is "touch /forcefsck" safe? Will it automaticly fix the errors? Where will my corrupt file go? Thanks in advance!
[15:47] <OerHeks> Tros, no, that file triggers fsck on next boot
[15:48] <OerHeks> it is safe as tested utility can be
[15:48] <Tros> OerHeks: Okey but if I want to run it manually, and assum that it haven't been run, is touch /forcefsck safe?
[15:48] <OerHeks> Tros no, that is not the way to run it manually
[15:48] <OerHeks> manually you will need a livecd
[15:49] <Trudko> ActionParsnip: I guess I have to move ubuntu parition to the left so unalloacted space would be right to it?
[15:49] <Tros> OerHeks: Okey, what does the command do then?
[15:49] <Pici> Tros: that is a perfectly fine way of forcing it to run automatically, but it isn't a way of running it manually.
[15:50] <CrowX-> anyone, is this article valid? http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Firefox-Beta-on-Ubuntu-Linux-295649.shtml
[15:50] <Pici> /70/70
[15:50] <Palomino> CrowX: Install Firefox on Linux | go to : https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/install-firefox-linux
[15:51] <OerHeks> Tros from live cd :> sudo fsck /dev/sdXy # where X is your hdd and y your partition
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> CrowX-: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-next
[15:52] <tmmunq> https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-next yeah, looks legit to me
[15:54] <Palomino> I need to know how to get Terratec Home Cinema 6.11.15 (orinal works on Windows)  working on Ubuntu 14.04 with an Terratec Cinergy HTC (USB stick) / command lsusb gives me "TerraTec Electronic GmbH" ? Can someone help me compile a right module or refer to a module i can download ?
[15:55] <Palomino> I need to know how to get Terratec Home Cinema 6.11.15 (original works on Windows)  working on Ubuntu 14.04 with an Terratec Cinergy HTC (USB stick) / command lsusb gives me "TerraTec Electronic GmbH" ? Can someone help me compile a right module or refer to a module i can download ?
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> Palomino: is the the usb stick drivers you want to get working on ubuntu?
[15:58] <RandLAT> how do I get (r)syslog to show both the start and end of a cron job? the start line shows "CMD", and I believe a log line showing the end of a cron job would show "END". Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS, thanks in advance.
[15:58] <yetanotherx_> How do I disable GLX in xorg? I've done Disable "glx" in the Module section, but the xorg.0.log still says "loading glx"
[15:59] <Palomino> It s a Terratec Cinergy HTC (USB stick) - with DVB-C (cable) connector | I use Ubuntu Studio 14.04 |
[15:59] <aaa801> any way to stop the "connect to server" thing dumping me in the user dir, i want to be able to view the whole fs
[16:00] <Palomino> Lotuspsychje : i dont know which drivers i can use the best and how to install them. On my W 7 it works after setup some (.exe) files..
[16:00] <Palomino> Lotuspsychje : i dont know which drivers i can use the best and how to install them in Ubuntu Studio 14.04. On my W 7 it works after setup some (.exe) files..
[16:00] <Palomino> W 7 = Windows 7
[16:02] <lotuspsychje> Palomino: some info here: http://www.linux-hardware-guide.com/2012-11-02-terratec-cinergy-htc-usb-stick-hd
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> Palomino: or here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/217160/how-to-get-cinergy-htc-stick-id-0ccd00b2-with-dvb-t-running
[16:05] <Palomino> lotuspsychje : thanks i go follow the command line code and give it a try.
[16:05] <lotuspsychje> Palomino: hope it works on 14.04
[16:05] <TaZeR> DABUNTU
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> Palomino: what windows does has zero bearing on what Ubuntu does, it is a completely different OS with different support
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> Palomino: if you run:   lsusb   you can use the 8 hex character ID to find guides online
[16:09] <Palomino> i am now execute some code i found : 'The stick can be used in Ubuntu 12.04, but the kernel module em28xx has to be compiled by hand:'
[16:10] <Palomino> from : http://www.linux-hardware-guide.com/2012-11-02-terratec-cinergy-htc-usb-stick-hd
[16:10] <varlok9000> join 987852
[16:10] <Palomino> ActionParsnip : ok. i am compiling now (step 3 of 4)
[16:12] <varlok9000> list
[16:13] <bullicon> why is allowing sudo remote login via ssh a security risk ?
[16:13] <kostkon> !list | varlok9000
[16:13] <jwinterm> so, I just installed 14.04 on a computer with an amd 270x, everything seemed to go fine, but after installing catalyst drivers, my desktop is a black screen
[16:14] <jwinterm> I can still switch to tty2
[16:14] <jwinterm> but desktop is always all black
[16:14] <jwinterm> I tried unintstalling, and then installing using amd sh file, same thing
[16:14] <jwinterm> I tried uninstalling lightdm, and installing gdm, same thing tho
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> jwinterm: wich drivers did ubuntu install by default?
[16:15] <jwinterm> the xorg open source ones
[16:15] <jwinterm> and the desktop works with those
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> jwinterm: and didnt workout for your graphics?
[16:15] <jwinterm> even when I unintstalled the ubuntu drivers, desktop worked, then I installed by amd sh script, no more desktop
[16:15]  * Palomino still compiling... itś a big process before itś finished i think ;)
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> jwinterm: maybe try the failsafeX from grub recoverymode?
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> jwinterm: or fix broken packages from there
[16:16] <Corvette> oh my goodness gracious why is 14.04 so hard to install alongside windows vs 12.04 what did they do wrong
[16:16] <jwinterm> I could uninstall drivers and I assume it would work again
[16:16] <jwinterm> I just want to use the drivers
[16:16] <jwinterm> the amd drivers
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | Corvette
[16:16] <Corvette> yeah I'm doing that
[16:17] <gt_> me AKOUS
[16:17] <lotuspsychje> Corvette: make your life easy and loose win once and for good :p
[16:17] <pavlos> gt_, ela
[16:17] <Guest9071> I know that this is not a channel to counsel on programs, but I would still like to know if there are anyone willing to help me find a good invoice / accounting programs for Ubuntu and / or Ubuntu Studio
[16:17] <Corvette> lol lotsupsychje if only that statement were actually true
[16:17] <gt_> pavlos: ela re pavlo
[16:18] <TeraJL> ActionParsnip: i've built it my self and i got the same problem :/
[16:18] <lotuspsychje> !english | gt_
[16:18] <gt_> jimcha21:ela
[16:18] <gt_> ubottu: ok
[16:18] <Corvette> If you want to do any gaming on your machine, you need to dual boot win.
[16:18] <Corvette> But I can't wait until that isn't the case.
[16:18] <lotuspsychje> Corvette: you could virtualbox your windows from ubuntu perhaps?
[16:19] <Corvette> To run eve online?
[16:19] <jimcha21> gt:prive
[16:19] <pavlos> gt_, sent you msg
[16:19] <Corvette> Spanned across three monitors? Efficiently? Vbox isn't quite that amazing
[16:19] <TeraJL> ActionParsnip: my biggest problem with ubuntu  (14.04) was keyboard shortcuts... i can't set alt+shift+1 to send window to first workspace, sometimes they get reseted (i use alt+q to turn off windows, and alt+(number) to switch workspace, and from time to time i need to re set them.. are this known bugs?
[16:19] <TeraJL> can this have anything to do with synapse problem?
[16:20] <Guest9071> ActionParsnip: I don't want to bother you, but could you tell me where I could find a program to do invoices - that could keep track of them?  Like a POS?
[16:20]  * Palomino finished the command 'sudo make install' how/where can i find how to start up the right program for using my Terratec Home Cinema  / software / driver under Ubuntu Studio 14.04 ?
[16:20] <tendencydriven> Guest9071: What sort of functionality do you require? There's a lot out there, Billings is decent, Harvest is great, etc, etc
[16:21]  * Palomino finished the command 'sudo make install' how/where can i find how to start up the right program for using my Terratec Home Cinema  / software / driver (for Terratec HTC Stick - with dvb-c )under Ubuntu Studio 14.04 ?
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> Guest9071: https://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/286323:lemonpos-your-open-source-point-of-sale
[16:22] <lotuspsychje> Corvette: eve online forum shows its possible from wine
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> Palomino: probably by running something like:   terratec      try typing:  terr   then hit TAB
[16:22] <Guest9071> Let's be clear ... I am court translator in Belgium.  It matters not to me if it is in English or french, but I need to print out invoices and file yearly what I got in income
[16:22] <Corvette> lotuspsychje yes it is but unfortunately 'possible' isn't synonymous with 'acceptable'
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> Guest9071: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=161036
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> Guest9071: all I am doing is quacking......
[16:23] <Palomino> ActionParsnip : i get then : terratec: opdracht niet gevonden (= command not found)
[16:23] <Corvette> I can't wait until the day that software is labeled, on the box, "Windows, Mac, Linux"
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> Palomino: use TAB to autocomplete the command
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> Corvette: :p
[16:24] <lotuspsychje> Corvette: steam, appdb, playonlinux already doing great job
[16:24] <joe______> hey guys
[16:24] <joe______> sup
[16:24] <Guest9071> ActionParsnip: Thx.  I'm still not very well versed in what to do and where to find it
[16:24] <perhapstired> Hello
[16:24] <Corvette> lotuspsychje they're going in the right direction but it'll take them some time. Steam is definitely making waves
[16:24] <joe______> y'all suck shit
[16:25] <lotuspsychje> !ops | joe______
[16:25] <Corvette> lotuspsychje have you ever tried codeweavers crossover?
[16:25] <Ro> hi
[16:25] <lotuspsychje> Corvette: not a gamer myself sorry
[16:25] <Palomino> ActionParsnip : sorry, but my cmd line says : terratec not found
[16:25] <perhapstired> Hey people, if both a VPN connection and system wide proxy are enabled in ubuntu's network manager, which one connects straight to the ubuntu pc, the proxy or the vpn?
[16:26] <Ro> vpn
[16:26] <perhapstired> Ro: Why are you so sure? It says 'system wide proxy'
[16:26] <lotuspsychje> !info playonlinux | Corvette
[16:27] <Ro> perhapstired: don't worry
[16:27] <k0nichiwa> hello i run a program and i get an error that a dynamic lib can't be found
[16:27] <k0nichiwa> what is typical fix for this ?
[16:27] <joe______> perhapstired dont question ro
[16:27] <perhapstired> Lol mk
[16:28] <korst3n> hey, i'm trying to create a upstart job and i end up with "stdin: is not a tty` error in the log messages, any ideas?
[16:28] <Ro> perhapstired: let's talk about mac osx
[16:28] <Ro> ubuntu sucks shit
[16:28] <joe______> indeed
[16:28] <IdleOne> anyone else or are we going to play nice?
[16:29] <lotuspsychje> Corvette: seems like eve online is on playonlinux list, just found a youtube on it
[16:29] <k0nichiwa> on os x there is something called install_name_tool
[16:29] <k0nichiwa> that modifies a dynamic lib to change internal data indicating where it is installed
[16:30] <lotuspsychje> k0nichiwa: maybe apt-cache search finds your specific lib?
[16:31] <JenniferB2> Hi folks! I am using xmodmap which is working fine .. but I keep having to run the command xmodmap /path/to/xmodmap from commandline all the time ... especially when changing the keyboard layout ... how I can configure so that xmodmap becomes more permanent, alternatively is run on login and on keyboard change? I have tried to copy the file to /myusername/.Xmodmap but not having the desired effect
[16:31] <perhapstired> Actually you don't know if that's true Ro, the proxy could very well just be overriding the VPN, not chaining after it/nesting inside it.
[16:31]  * Church hates apt-cache. because i in most cases try to do search with apt-get, fail and only then remember that i need to use apt-cache instead :/
[16:31] <Palomino> I have compiled (followed till step 4 : http://www.linux-hardware-guide.com/2012-11-02-terratec-cinergy-htc-usb-stick-hd ) which file (command) i have to run for starting the (software) for Terratec HTC Stick (HD) (dvb-c) on Ubuntu Studio 14.04 ?? I don't know it yet.
[16:36] <k0nichiwa> i did something badi just edited /etc/ld.conf
[16:37] <deadpirates> I am not sure is there any solution available !!
[16:37] <wilee-nilee> !who | deadpirates
[16:37]  * Palomino found more info on askubuntu . now reading and trying software with some commands (dvb-tools)
[16:38] <wilee-nilee> Palomino, Running lsusb will give a technical hardware name of it that may be a key.
[16:38] <deadpirates> !wilee-nilee Sorry as I am new here I dont know the system
[16:38] <Palomino> wilee-nilee : thanks .. i go try it step by step (source : http://askubuntu.com/questions/217160/how-to-get-cinergy-htc-stick-id-0ccd00b2-with-dvb-t-running)
[16:39] <wilee-nilee> deadpirates, Cool, just the nick you can tab complete nicks. ;)
[16:40]  * Palomino was Unpacking dvb-tools (1.0.1-1) ...
[16:41] <deadpirates> !wilee-nilee Still confusing!! Can you please help me out
[16:41] <IdleOne> deadpirates: stop putting ! at the beginning of your comments, it makes ubottu an confused bot
[16:42] <pavlos> k0nichiwa, /etc/ld.so.conf has just one line in it, include /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf
[16:42] <wilee-nilee> !tab | deadpirates
[16:42] <jvarcaba> Hey, bash gives error that the file doesnt exist , but it does and can be easily run by itself, but not  in chain with other sh file. What could be the cause ?
[16:42] <deadpirates> IdleOne,  I think now I can do it
[16:43] <wilee-nilee> deadpirates, I assume this is for nicks, type a few letters of a nick than hit the tab key to complete
[16:43] <jvarcaba> Hey, bash gives error that the file doesnt exist , but it does and can be easily run by itself, but not  in chain with other sh file. What could be the cause ?
[16:43] <pavlos> jvarcaba, your PATH is not set correctly
[16:44] <jvarcaba> pavlos, no by default they should be both in one directory, and so it is ....
[16:44] <wilee-nilee> deadpirates,  ! is used to address the bot.
[16:46] <Guest38287> hello
[16:46] <Guest81404> hello
[16:46] <pavlos> jvarcaba, say we are in /home/user scriptA runs which calls scriptB. Try to reference them as /home/user/scriptA and /home/user/scriptB
[16:46] <Guest38287> Got Problem in ubuntu
[16:47] <Guest81404> how i change my nick
[16:47] <Guest38287> Is here anyone to help???
[16:47] <pavlos> jvarcaba, assuming /home/user is in the PATH
[16:47] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | Guest38287
[16:47]  * Palomino has downloaded 'me-tv' and is now trying to scan TV channels (with DVB-C mode)
[16:47] <Guest81404> man irssi
[16:47] <Guest81404> bye
[16:47] <jvarcaba> pavlos, Thanks ! Will try that out.
[16:49] <alin__> hy
[16:51] <pavlos> alin__, is hy an acronym ?
[16:53]  * Palomino has not found any TV channels...
[16:54]  * Palomino think, maybe i have to reboot first (for recognize) my hand compiled kernel with support for Linux TV / Terratec Cinergy HTC (mode: DVB-c), who can advise me ?
[16:54] <wilee-nilee> Palomino, This is not your play by play.
[16:55] <wilee-nilee> or a bragging soapbox
[16:55] <Palomino> wilee-nilee what can i doo ?
[16:55] <Palomino> wilee-nilee what can i do ?
[16:55] <wilee-nilee> Palomino, This is support, that is the goal.
[16:55] <Palomino> yes ok i understand it
[16:58] <wilee-nilee> Palomino, What you may not know is that this is support for kernels and apps from the ubuntu repos primarily.
[17:00] <Palomino> wilee-nilee : i was compiling / update drivers to recognize my Terratec HTC Stick (HD) on Ubuntu Studio 14.04. But itś not full working yet. i try to find more support (here and on the web)
[17:00] <OerHeks> Palomino, our german friends have an extended list with howto's http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/DVB-Karten
[17:01] <MoPac> Hello. I'm a little bit confused about version numbers and seem to have ended up with several versions of gnutls installed in Trusty. Is there an easy way to check that my system is not using an unpatched gnutls implementation?
[17:02] <sarahS> I can't seem to get my vhosts to load on apache on ubuntu 14.04.   I've checked my syntax and its fine.   I've checked my permissions on my sites-enabled and sites-available files and they seem fine.
[17:02] <sarahS>  apachectl -t -D DUMP_VHOSTS outputs nothing
[17:02] <Palomino> OerHeks : ok i go reading it
[17:02] <sarahS> just "VirtualHost configuration: "
[17:02] <sarahS> an then nothing...
[17:03] <sarahS> i checked my apache2.conf and it is doing optionaInclude sites-enabled/*.conf (or whatever that syntax is)
[17:03] <Pici> sarahS: in apache2.4 files in sites-enabled need to end with .conf
[17:03] <kaffien> I cannot seem to create my own shapes for DIA.  Is there a way to import visio stencils as DIA shapes?
[17:03] <sarahS> Pici: Correct. they are.
[17:05] <Pici> sarahS: Are they readable by www-data?
[17:06] <sarahS> hmmm
[17:06] <sarahS> let me double check
[17:06] <sarahS> i bet that's it
[17:06] <sarahS> is there a group that has both root and www-data?
[17:07] <wilee-nilee> !dia | kaffien
[17:07] <phunyguy> sarahS, you could probably make one
[17:07] <wilee-nilee> !info dia
[17:07] <Pici> sarahS: root has access to everything.
[17:08] <wilee-nilee> kaffien, I found this wiki, not sure if applicable. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dia
[17:11] <needathneed> @search John Rector
[17:11] <unopaste> needathneed: (search <word>) -- Searches for <word> in the current configuration variables.
[17:11] <needathneed> @search john rector
[17:11] <unopaste> needathneed: (search <word>) -- Searches for <word> in the current configuration variables.
[17:11] <Pici> needathneed: Can we help you?
[17:14] <stevooo> hi, according to GParted my /dev/sd1 partition has size 85 GiB free space, the filesystem is ext4. How can i create a partition with about 80 GiB for ntfs ?
[17:14] <VonUber> it is my understanding that ubuntu makes and ntpdate call as it boots to set the time from ntp.ubuntu.com, I would like to change that ntp server to me an internal one, does anyone know where that can be set? Is it just /etc/ntp.conf? Thanks
[17:15] <Palomino> bye people and thanks for the help ! i go reboot now. checking if my Terratec HTC Cinergy HD stick works on Ubuntu 14.04
[17:16] <wilee-nilee> VonUber, You can change this in the clock gui I believe if you have a desktop.
[17:17] <VonUber> wilee-nilee, ubuntu server here
[17:17] <rtnb> what's the best way to look through a really long file in the terminal?  cat isn't showing all of it, and going line by line with an editor is not efficient.
[17:17] <VonUber> rtnb, do you know what you are looking for?
[17:17] <wilee-nilee> VonUber, I figured that if no one has an answer here try #ubuntu-server
[17:17] <rtnb> it will be a line containing "Jun 03" more specific than that, no
[17:18] <VonUber> use grep to search for Jun 03
[17:18] <wilee-nilee> rtnb, crtl-f in a text editor
[17:18] <wilee-nilee> or grep,
[17:18] <rtnb> ctrl f works in terminal editors?
[17:18] <hasif> Hi there! I just ran fsck, and got the following output: /dev/sda2: 1735/32768000 files (22,9 % non-contiguous), 57400225/131072000. Is the filesystem ok or what? I mean, shouldn't it state clean if it's ok?
[17:18] <ianorlin> it is / in vim
[17:19] <caleress> hey guys, i got a weird issue, at startup ubuntu immediately connects with the my router (dlink dir 600), but doesnt actually start to work till some 5 mins later (like i cant ping and do dns lookups). After the 5 mins everything starts to work just fine (and this does not happen with windows and android). Any ideas what could be wrong?
[17:19] <wilee-nilee> rtnb, I don't belive so, I missread that you may have tried a gui editor.
[17:20] <pavlos> caleress, look at dmesg why the handshaking takes that long ...
[17:20] <hasif> Hi there! I just ran fsck, and got the following output: /dev/sda2: 1735/32768000 files (22,9 % non-contiguous), 57400225/131072000. Is the filesystem ok or what? I mean, shouldn't it state clean if it's ok?
[17:20] <genii> VonUber: If you just want to view the file and not edit it, "less" might suit. You can also travel up or down within the output, unlike just using cat
[17:20] <ianorlin> rtnb ^w in nano
[17:20] <Corvette> I installed ubuntu 12.04 lts alongside windows 7 and then 'upgraded' to 14.04 via disc and now I can't boot into windows what do I do
[17:21] <moarrr_bitcoin> hey
[17:21] <caleress> pavlos, you mean i should watch it or smtn
[17:21] <wilee-nilee> hasif, That is a high contiguous, this an OS that has been upgraded and running for awhile?
[17:21] <moarrr_bitcoin> I get "Invalid signiture detected. Check Secure Boot Policy in Setup" while tryign to boot to a debian install dvd
[17:22] <wilee-nilee> moarrr_bitcoin, ask #debian
[17:22] <bazhang> moarrr_bitcoin, #debian
[17:22] <pavlos> caleress, do a dmesg and grep for your network interface. It should show how it connects to dLink to get an ip
[17:22] <mathuin> moarrr_bitcoin: be prepared to go into your BIOS and disable "Secure Boot Policy" whatever that is.
[17:22] <hasif> wilee-nilee: no, but is the filesystem clean
[17:22] <hasif> ?
[17:23] <wilee-nilee> Corvette, what happens on the windows boot?
[17:23] <VonUber> genii ---> grep "Jun 03" /path/to/file| less
[17:23] <wilee-nilee> hasif, I am not sure.
[17:23] <Corvette> wilee-nilee nothing it doesn't give me the option to boot into windows
[17:24] <genii> VonUber: Sure.
[17:24] <wilee-nilee> Corvette, In the terminal run sudo update-grub and se if it shows.
[17:24] <hasif> wilee-nilee: Can you ask someone that know?
[17:24] <Corvette> okay wilee-nilee hold on
[17:24] <wilee-nilee> hasif, Sure, hold on......., My cat has no idea. ;)
[17:25] <hasif> wilee-nilee: hahaha, okey thanks anyway
[17:25] <wilee-nilee> hasif, THis is free help, volunteers, you have to have some patience. ;)
[17:25] <JenniferB2> Hi folks! I am using xmodmap which is working fine .. but I keep having to run the command xmodmap /path/to/xmodmap from commandline all the time ... especially when changing the keyboard layout ... how I can configure so that xmodmap becomes more permanent, alternatively is run on login and on keyboard change? I have tried to copy the file to /myusername/.Xmodmap but not having the desired effect
[17:25] <caleress> hm yea just grepped, it does connect immediately!
[17:26] <hasif> wilee-nilee: yeah, I know. But I'm in a hurry.. :(
[17:26] <caleress> so the connection with the router is instant
[17:26] <caleress> but it doesnt actually server the request (you get a connection timed out) in the first 5 mins
[17:26] <caleress> *server
[17:26] <caleress> *serve
[17:27] <pavlos> caleress, wired or wireless?
[17:27] <caleress> wireless, dlink dir 600 router
[17:27] <wilee-nilee> hasif, If you are registered with #freenode #linux is a good channel to.
[17:27] <caleress> and as said, it doesnt do that with windows or android
[17:27] <caleress> maybe an ubuntu hostile router, but that cant be :)
[17:27] <pavlos> caleress, maybe you are using wrong authentication ... wep, wpa, ...
[17:28] <Corvette> wilee-nilee
[17:28] <Corvette> it says it found windows 7 loader
[17:28] <Corvette> should I try to reboot now
[17:28] <wilee-nilee> Corvette, Cool, try a boot, yes.
[17:28] <caleress> well unlikely, since everything works perfectly after first 5 mins
[17:29] <caleress> if the settings were wrong it wouldnt work at all
[17:29] <caleress> i think
[17:29] <wilee-nilee> caleress, you need sudo apt-get install holy-water
[17:29] <wilee-nilee> exorcize the demons
[17:29] <caleress> haha yea
[17:30] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[17:30] <pavlos> caleress, if possible, try wired and see if it takes 5 mins to ping outside (unlikely). Log on to your router and see the wireless devices connected. There is some troubleshooting
[17:31] <caleress> should be yea, but really strange behavior
[17:31] <caleress> wired works fine yea
[17:32] <caleress> ok will go try to diagnose with router, thansk for help pavlos
[17:32] <TaZeR> yo ubuntu be da butnu
[17:34] <phunyguy> TaZeR, please stop that
[17:34] <TaZeR> sorry im just so happy its so good
[17:35] <TaZeR> im dancing
[17:35] <phunyguy> TaZeR, glad you like it, but please leave this channel clear for support
[17:35] <TaZeR> i used to pay hundreds of dollars for an os
[17:35] <Reptilia>  I've upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10, on my laptop, and keyboard input is too slow, missing letters. How can i fix this?
[17:36] <Reptilia>  I've upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10, on my laptop, and keyboard input is too slow, missing letters. How can i fix this?
[17:37] <Reptilia>  I've upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10, on my laptop, and keyboard input is too slow, missing letters. How can i fix this?
[17:42] <TJ-> Reptilia: does that occur both in the GUI and at a terminal?
[17:42] <Reptilia> TJ-:Let mecheck
[17:43] <Reptilia> TJ-:Yes
[17:45] <Reptilia> TJ-:Lol, it fixed by its own. How?
[17:45] <jackneill> hey
[17:45] <jackneill> i would like to ask for the name of the theme in this article:
[17:45] <jackneill> http://www.webupd8.org/2014/05/how-to-install-gnome-312-in-ubuntu.html
[17:46] <TJ-> Reptilia: magic?
[17:47] <rtnb> how do i check my bash history to find out what sent a shutdown signal to apache?
[17:47] <Reptilia> TJ-:It must be, of some kind.
[17:47] <Obhur> my Macbook pro had a firware of 8,1 there is no MacBook Hardware Revisions and Ubuntu version-specific for 8,1 what can i do to run a live USB on my mac?
[17:48] <__raven_> 14.04 extreme network problems with wired and wireless nic. connection crashes, extremely slow connections, no dns - whats that and how to solve
[17:50] <Reptilia> TJ-:It is laggy again. Any suggestions?
[17:51] <Reptilia>  I've upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10, on my laptop, and keyboard input is too slow, missing letters. How can i fix this?
[17:51] <Reptilia>  I've upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10, on my laptop, and keyboard input is too slow, missing letters. How can i fix this?
[17:51] <Reptilia>  I've upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10, on my laptop, and keyboard input is too slow, missing letters. How can i fix this?
[17:51] <Reptilia> Oops sorry.
[17:52] <phunyguy> __raven_, that sounds an awful lot like it's not Ubuntu's fault
[17:52] <phunyguy> if both wired and wireless do the same thing.... do you have another network you can try?
[17:53] <__raven_> phunyguy: itx xubuntu-desktop via 14.04 minimal iso and i have tested with two machines
[17:54] <Obhur> i know we can run live DVD of ubuntu on a mac, is there a way to trick the mac and run a live USB as if it is a live DVD?
[17:55] <Jordan_U> __raven_: What does a "connection crash" mean to you? Are you using a static ip address or DHCP?
[17:55] <CatKiller> Obhur: Using "alt" on boot you can pick the Live USB
[17:55] <CatKiller> works the same way as a live DVD
[17:56] <TJ-> __raven_: Do some basic tests, like ping, using just the IP address, and the the hostname of the external target. If ping by IP address is OK and by hostname its lagged, you've got a local DNS issue
[17:56] <CatKiller> only tricky part is to build the live USB key. Sometimes I find it doesn't work
[17:56] <CatKiller> works better when I generate it with "pendrivelinux" it seems
[17:56] <__raven_> Jordan_U: dhcp - meanst that suddenly no dns is available any more, ping crashes and connections to the mail server cannot be established any more
[17:56] <planetmaker> just dd if=/path/to/boot_iso of=/path/to/usbdevice
[17:57] <sprung> wcfields, baaaaa young whipperschnappa
[17:57] <TJ-> __raven_: physical machines or virtual machines?
[17:57] <__raven_> TJ-: 2 physical
[17:58] <Jordan_U> __raven_: I doubt that ping is "crashing". To avoid confusion in the future please use the word "fail" rather than crash.
[17:58] <__raven_> until 13.10 i had no problems
[17:58] <__raven_> ok sry ;)
[17:58] <Reptilia> I've upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10, and i experience a major lag, while typing on the keyboard. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
[17:58] <TJ-> __raven_: unlikely to be a MAC collision then.
[17:59] <__raven_> TJ-: macs are different
[17:59] <TJ-> __raven_: monitor the log-file "/var/log/syslog" and see what is logged at the exact time the failure occurs. You may see some unexpected network disconnection and associated reasons/clues
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> Reptilia: maybe its time to clean install 14.04?
[18:00] <Jordan_U> __raven_: Please pastebin the output of "ping -c 10 8.8.8.8", "route -n", "ifconfig", and "nm-tool".
[18:00] <Obhur> CatKiller: i have been trying to make an ubuntu live USB for ages, can you please tell me how you make this key?
[18:00] <mintee_> hey all, I've just installed 14.04 on my box, and I'm not getting audio out of my Front Right & Left Speakers of my 5.1 system
[18:00] <CatKiller> Obhur: Well it was flakey at best when I used "dd" (official instructions), but that was a long time ago on really old hardware. Try that first.
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> !sound | mintee_
[18:01] <mintee_> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
 just dd if=/path/to/boot_iso of=/path/to/usbdevice
[18:01] <mintee_> lotuspsychje, went through all that already.
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> mintee_: did you check your additional drivers list?
[18:01] <mintee_> mhmm
[18:01] <mintee_> only nvidoa stuff comes up.
[18:02] <Obhur> iiuuuhuyugh
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> mintee_: did you install 14.04 with internet connection and enabled updates during setup?
[18:02] <Obhur> CatKiller: can i get pendrivelinux for a mac?
[18:02] <planetmaker> well, I just gave it a shot once and it worked great. That's my experience with creating usb boot sticks and dd :)
[18:02] <mintee_> lotuspsychje, yup. all up to date.
[18:02] <CatKiller> Obhur: It's a windows program
[18:02] <Obhur> CatKiller: oh
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> mintee_: any relevant audio errors in logs?
[18:03] <mintee_> Center, Rear Right & Left work.  The Sub is playing through the center too.
[18:03] <CatKiller> Obhur: Anyways, have to go, good luck! Try the official steps
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> mintee_: maybe do a tail -f /var/log/syslog and fool around with audio a bit
[18:03] <Obhur> CatKiller: thanks
[18:04]  * mintee_ tries
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> mintee_: or check dmesg
[18:06] <__raven_> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/bXUF5fNM
[18:06]  * sarwarc away
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> mintee_: maybe relevant to you: http://askubuntu.com/questions/382726/dummy-output-in-audio-nothing-is-working-alsa-broken
[18:08] <mintee_> lotuspsychje, haha, thanks.  Tried every thing I found on the forums before I jumped in here.  Removed alsa and pulseaudio, reinstalled, edited the daemon.conf a few different ways, etc.
[18:08] <mintee_> looks like most people are complaining about pulse being problematic.
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> mintee_: you have the fglrx drivers for grafix?
[18:08] <mintee_> nah, donno what that is.
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> mintee_: whats your graphics card chipset?
[18:09] <mintee_> 07:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G92 [GeForce 9800 GTX+] (rev a2)
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> mintee_: what does driver= say?
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> mintee_: lshw -C video
[18:10] <vlt> Hello. I am running Ubuntu from live usb and want to playback h264/aac video. What do I need to install?
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> mintee_: maybe its a hd audio thing related to your graphics card
[18:11] <mintee_> http://pastebin.com/Dbsd1wtm
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> !info vlc | vlt
[18:11] <sprung> or maybe its a hd video thing related to your audio card
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> sprung: yes thats what i mean :p
[18:12] <sprung> oh ok because i made that up
[18:12] <mintee_> I was thinking maybe it was related to the nvidia driver, cause I did upgrade that to the 331.38 version
[18:12] <TJ-> __raven_: I think your issue is, you have IPv6 and IPv4 enabled, and I suspect that the DNS is sometimes getting a AAAA (IPV6) record but can't route it. Does your ISP provide native IPv6 routing?
[18:12] <TeraJL> on ubuntu 14.04, can i get intellihide on the launcher?
[18:12] <mintee_> from Nouveau
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> mintee_: you could try to switch grafix drivers maybe, see if it influences your audio?
[18:12] <sprung> mintee_, be-cause
[18:12] <mintee_> thanks sprung
[18:12] <sprung> np glad i could help
[18:13] <__raven_> TJ-: i suggested something like that but i disabled all ipv6 settings
[18:13] <mintee_> lotuspsychje, it was not working with the nouveau driver either.
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> mintee_: im out of ideas then, logs checking for relevant audio issues?
[18:13] <mintee_> ya, i've been hunting and I haven't seen one issue with the logs.
[18:14] <mintee_> is there a intel driver that might help that I'm not aware of?
[18:14] <TJ-> __raven_: in your pastebin, p2p1 has not IPv4 address. Was that after the failure? In other words, did it have an IPv4 address previously?
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> mintee_: how about realtime tail -f /var/log/syslog and plugin sound etc
[18:14] <TeraJL> intellihide or dodge, i think it's the same
[18:14] <__raven_> TJ-: cable is unplugged now but with cable its similar
[18:15] <mintee_> lotuspsychje, nothing... glad i'm not the only one with no idea ;)
[18:15] <TJ-> __raven_: As I said earler, monitor "/var/log/syslog" that should give you maximum information about why it fails
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> mintee_: maybe intel website has latest audio hd drivers for linux?
[18:15] <Jordan_U> __raven_: Please pastebin the output of "lsb_release -d".
[18:16] <lotuspsychje> mintee_: check your lshw -C sound drivers= and compare to websites latest maybe?
[18:16] <__raven_> Jordan_U: Description:Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[18:17] <__raven_> TJ- Jordan_U OH! Jun  3 20:16:33 q02 dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on p2p1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 20 (xid=0x3e1e3bd2) every few seconds!?
[18:18] <TJ-> __raven_: and no reply? cable/router issue then?
[18:18] <Jordan_U> __raven_: Are you trying to connect via wireless and ethernet at the same time?
[18:19] <__raven_> Jordan_U: cable is unplugged now so this is stupid
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[18:19] <__raven_> TJ-: something major must have been changed in the subsys then because as i said its similar in a completely different network
[18:20] <TJ-> __raven_: What does ethtool have to say about the port state?
[18:20] <Jordan_U> __raven_: Probably not related, but do you know why your machine appears to be using biosdevname for naming your ethernet device?
[18:20] <scri66le> anyone have issues in 1404 with chrome or chromium getting all choppy?
[18:21] <__raven_> Jordan_U: no. it was changed on the other machine from eth0 to p2p1 too as i made an upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04
[18:24] <caskaid> trying to download my files from ubuntuone using the, "download all files as .zip" doesn't seem to grab all the files. Any suggestions? Already asked in ubuntuone channel with no response
[18:24] <scri66le> anyone have issues in 1404 with chrome or chromium getting all choppy?
[18:24] <sarahS> thanks for the help guys!
[18:24] <sarahS> :)
[18:24] <handsomejack> !ops | Jesus caused 911
[18:25] <sprung> omg abuse
[18:25] <zerooneone> how do i install a package from precise on a trusty system?
[18:25] <elky> handsomejack: please don't do that.
[18:26] <Jordan_U> __raven_: It looks like biosdevname is the default for d-i (minimal, alternate, server) installations, so that's one mystery solved at least.
[18:26] <zerooneone> i upgraded to trusty but realize i need an earlier version of a package which is still in precise
[18:27] <Sarseo> Hi there.  I have a 2TB ntfs partition that is not visible to Ubuntu.  I cannot even see the all the devices when I run lsblk.  The partition does not have windows on it, but it has data I want to get at.  Any suggestions?
[18:27] <tmmunq> install ntgs-3g
[18:28] <tmmunq> *ntfs-3g
[18:28] <__raven_> ok
[18:29] <Jordan_U> Sarseo: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[18:31] <Sarseo> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/pPVtuBvX
[18:31] <zerooneone> can i even mix packages from precise on a trusty system?
[18:33] <Jordan_U> zerooneone: No.
[18:33] <Jordan_U> zerooneone: What is your end goal?
[18:33] <Sarseo> The 2TB hard drive is visible in Windows.  It's a SATA device.
[18:34] <OerHeks> 2 tb needs a gpt table, should be seen in parted
[18:34] <Sarseo> gpt table?
[18:35] <zerooneone> Jordan_U: i have a precise system running collectd 4 server and trusty has collectd 5 (client). so i want to put the collectd 4 on the trusty machine
[18:36] <OerHeks> gpt is the followup of mbr
[18:36] <Jordan_U> zerooneone: You can't use a collectd 5 client with a collectd 4 server?
[18:37] <Sarseo> Okay, so how do I give the 2TB a gpt table?
[18:37] <zerooneone> Jordan_U: nope not compatable
[18:37] <mintee_> interesting, i 'sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio alsa' and rebooted and my audio problems went away.
[18:37] <mintee_> until I reinstalled them.
[18:38] <Jordan_U> Sarseo: How is this drive connected?
[18:38] <Sarseo> Jordan_U, um... how do you mean?
[18:38] <Sarseo> Via a sata cable?
[18:38] <Sarseo> O.o
[18:39] <Jordan_U> Sarseo: If it's connected via SATA, that would answer my question. Yes.
[18:39] <Sarseo> I mean, when I boot into Windows, it's visible, but when I boot into Ubuntu, it's not.  They're all connected to the same system.
[18:39] <Sarseo> Oh, I mentioned it was a SATA earlier, sorry.
[18:39] <Sarseo> Wasn't sure if there was more to that question
[18:39] <Jordan_U> Sarseo: Sorry, missed that :)
[18:39] <Jordan_U> Sarseo: Please pastebin the output of "dmesg".
[18:40] <Sarseo> The whole thing?
[18:40] <Jordan_U> Sarseo: Yes.
[18:41] <Sarseo> http://pastebin.com/6Ux2Bd8W
[18:42] <mintee_> I'm a freakin assh*ole... this entire time the audio cable was plugged into the wrong jack.
[18:42] <sprung> sounds like the issue is between the keyboard and ground
[18:43] <mintee_> for real... and I checked all the connections BUT the one going in the box
[18:43]  * mintee_ facepalms
[18:44] <sprung> don't feel bad, i went through all sorts of troubleshooting where my NIC was reporting connected on ethtools but i couldn't get DHCP and couldn't ping my gateway with ifconfig set manually... my docking station wasn't plugged into the power
[18:45] <ahmadddd> guys, I need help please
[18:46] <Sarseo> Jordan_U, anything I should be looking at in particular?
[18:48] <ELFrederich> I'm really digging the default Ubuntu font used in terminals.  Any idea how to get this font for other non-ubuntu systems?
[18:50] <Jordan_U> Sarseo: Do you hear the drive in question spin up at all?
[18:50] <Sarseo> No.  But there's 4 hard drives in there...
[18:50] <Sarseo> And as I said, it appears in Windows.
[18:51] <Sarseo> I could... reboot and listen.
[18:51] <Sarseo> But I doubt I'd make out which one
[18:51] <madlybad> hy
[18:51] <gorhgorh> hi there
[18:51] <trism> ELFrederich: this font? http://font.ubuntu.com/
[18:51] <arun_> hello devs
[18:52] <arun_> anybody facing the flickering mouse pointer problem in ubuntu 14.04
[18:52] <arun_> the mouse pointer vanishes for sometime and i am left clueless
[18:53] <gorhgorh> I'm trying to install 14.04 on a mackbook pro along with osx, and setup alway fails when it comes to create partions for the install
[18:53] <gorhgorh> anyone ever experienced that ?
[18:53] <ELFrederich> trism, yeah... great.  now to figure out how to install it on RHEL6
[18:53] <Sarseo> Jordan_U, is there a setting in the bios I have to make?
[18:54] <trism> ELFrederich: you can probably just copy them to ~/.fonts/
[18:54] <Kurogane> hello, how to create symlink /var/run to /run ?
[18:55] <genii> Kurogane: sudo ln -s /var/run /run
[18:56] <ELFrederich> trism, sweet... thanks
[18:56]  * genii hums the da doo run run run song 
[18:56] <scri66le> anyone have issues in 1404 with chrome or chromium getting all choppy?
[18:57] <Sarseo> Jordan_U, I'll be right back.  Going to try something.
[18:57] <OerHeks> Sarseo, i cannot detect any 2 tb drive in your log
[18:57] <Sarseo> OerHeks, I know
[18:57] <Sarseo> Cuz it's not being detected.  But as I said, it does in Windows.
[18:57] <Sarseo> I'm gonna try something in the bios that might help
[18:57] <OerHeks> Sarseo, and your bios is from 2011, check for update. ( even windows detects it)
[18:58] <arun_> did anyone else face that flickering issue, because the solution at ask ubuntu is not working
[18:59] <OerHeks> arun_, check the underground, some mice do not like glossy surfaces.
[19:09] <arun_> system slows down during heavy file operations like nothing responds...  anybody facing similar issues with 14.04
[19:14] <fecou> hello, I have a problem with ubuntu 14.04 ; my menu and everythign disapppeared when I did an actualisation. It s even impossible to make ctrl alt T to open the terminal. What I can do is ctrl alt F1Duo you have an idea how to get the menu back. Thank you
[19:16] <Sarseo> back
[19:20] <Sarseo> Jordan_U, k, so my motherboard is an Asus P8P67 LE.  There are a grand total of 7 sata slots.  There's 2 Intel 6 Gb/s slots, 4 Intel 3 Gb/s slots, and a "Marvell" 6 Gb/s slot.
[19:20] <Sarseo> The "Marvell" one is blue.  When I remove my hdd from that slot and stick it in any of the 3 Gb/s slots, the hdd disappears from Windows.
[19:20] <Sarseo> That's the one my 2TB was initially connected to (the off-colored 6G sata slot).
[19:21] <Sarseo> The hdd does not show up in bios, or anywhere.
[19:21] <Sarseo> Even if I connect it to that slot (ironically, that slot also doesn't even appear as a menu item).
[19:21] <Sarseo> (in the bios*)
[19:21] <nerium> Can anyone help me translate this "ssh shine -L 7931:[::1]:7931 -N" to an autossh cmd?
[19:22] <Jordan_U> Sarseo: Does it appear in Ubuntu when it disappears from Windows? (I'm guessing not, but it would be fun). Are you sure that your power supply can handle all of your hardware?
[19:22] <Sarseo> Yes
[19:23] <Jordan_U> Sarseo: To which question?
[19:23] <Sarseo> The second question.
[19:23] <Sarseo> It does not appear in Ubuntu at all still.  Hm... You raise a good question tho.  Sec
[19:24] <Sarseo> Ahhh... It all becomes clear now
[19:24] <Sarseo> Clear like hotel bedsheets.
[19:24] <nimbiotics> Hello all. Im using ubuntu 14.04 with MATE on a dual core pentium. Every now and then my computer will freeze w/o warnings. How can I find out what is going on? TIA
[19:24] <gorhgorh> hi there, I just finished my installation on a mac os machine, but i'm still new to ubunto can anyone point me to good resources for post intall stuff (i belinve i need to update apt-get and do a bunch of stuffs, don't i ? )
[19:25] <Sarseo> Anyway.  brb.
[19:25] <genial> Hello, I'm trying to compile libvirt-1.2.5 --with-xenapi. I've compiled libxenserver and put the .so's in /lib/, ran ldconfig but the libvirt-compiler tells me that "You must install libxenserver and libcurl to compile the XenAPI driver". libcurl4-openssl-dev is also installed. Anyone with any input on what I might be doing wrong?
[19:28] <Sarseo> I now live in a world where all hard drive devices are visible.  \o/
[19:28] <uomounico> ciao
[19:28] <uomounico> !list
[19:29] <mexi_d3> If anyone here is familiar with byobu? I've seen people have different background colours for each terminal, but I can't find how do to that in the man page for byobu.
[19:29] <someHuman> Hello!
[19:29] <someHuman> So I'd like to deactivate my Facebook now.
[19:29] <ianorlin> mexi_d3 some terminals let you set different backgound color in there prefrences
[19:30] <someHuman> But only if after I finish downloading my pictures and videos.
[19:30] <Sarseo> Jordan_U, I've always hated my power supply's sata power cables.  They are always loose and tend to fall out even when I do something minor like change a sata port.  I never even touched it, but the cord must've tugged on it and caused it come loose during the switch.
[19:30] <Sarseo> The hdd is now visible tho. :3  Thank you for your help.
[19:30] <mexi_d3> ianorlin, Yes they do, but how does that work in Byobu?
[19:30] <someHuman> Facebook seem not to allow to download by album.
[19:30] <Sarseo> I still dunno why the 6G slot didn't detect tho. :\  I am looking online.  Apparently it's one of those controllers that doesn't come pre-configured in Ubuntu perhaps.
[19:30] <ianorlin> um It takes on the color of the terminal it is run in
[19:30] <someHuman> How do I then download every picture in my Facebook account?
[19:30] <adamk> someHuman: That discussion doesn't really have anything to do with Ubuntu...
[19:31] <mexi_d3> ianorlin, I've seen people with multiple terminals in byobu, with a different BG colour in each. I can't find out how to do that.
[19:31] <someHuman> adamk: Do you have OT channel?
[19:31] <Jordan_U> someHuman: #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:31] <someHuman> Jordan_U: Thanks!
[19:31] <OerHeks> Sarseo, your bios is from 2011, check for update.
[19:31] <Jordan_U> someHuman: You're welcome.
[19:32] <ianorlin> mexi_d3 you are asking for like a different color for weechat then a different color for htop in a byobu session?
[19:32] <btw14> nvpy &
[19:33] <OerHeks> Sarseo, it doesn't detect flaky connectors :-)
[19:33] <mexi_d3> ianorlin: Yes (but different apps)
[19:33] <Sarseo> OerHeks, I might a bit later.  I have my hdd, that's all that matters for now
[19:33] <ianorlin> ah not sure how to do that mexi_d3 I misnterpreted what you were asking
[19:34] <mexi_d3> ianorlin, It's oK. Thanks for taking the time to try though.
[19:37] <x0auser> hi, i have an alternatif driver for my Geforce210 , it will be better for urban terror for ex i f i install the last nvidia driver ? Or the same thing.. thanks
[19:42] <xqo> hey
[19:42] <xqo> can ubuntu 14,04 use python 2.7.7?
[19:42] <xqo> cause debian 7 is still using 2.7.3
[19:43] <Pici> xqo: it is using 2.7.5
[19:43] <xqo> Pici okey.. and i cant upgrade?
[19:45] <Pici> xqo: er, sorry. 14.04 uses 2.7.6
[19:45] <Pici> And no, not without using some external (unsupported) repo
[19:45] <g0twig> Hey there
[19:45] <xqo> Pici is it problematic?
[19:45] <g0twig> Can you pls help me
[19:45] <xqo> i dont mind using unsupported repos
[19:46] <g0twig> My touchpad is not recognized
[19:46] <g0twig> its a very new notebook
[19:46] <Pici> xqo: do you need to upgrade? Is there a fix that 2.7.7 brings in that is required?
[19:46] <xqo> Pici i guess not.
[19:46] <g0twig> http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4927#kf my notebook
[19:46] <xqo> thanks
[19:47] <massimo> ciao a tutti
[19:48] <pippijn> has anybody seen this in ubuntu with gnome before? https://paste.xinu.at/W5L8/ (missing icons for everything)
[19:49] <pippijn> I have had this several times now, with 13.04, 13.10 and now with 14.04
[19:49] <pippijn> I have no idea where the problem might be, so my only two fixes so far have been: reinstall the whole system from CD, or reinstall every single package
[19:50] <nimbiotics> Hello all. Im using ubuntu 14.04LTS with MATE on a dual core pentium. Every now and then my computer will freeze w/o warnings. How can I find out what is going on? TIA
[19:51] <rek> !ot
[19:51] <savid> How can I convert an ubuntu ISO to IMG for installation on macbook (in linux)? I want to do a fresh install via usb, and all the instructions are for OSX :-/
[19:51] <apb1963> So I just got my brand new 128GB monkey usb flash drive today.  It won't mount (auto nor manual).  ubuntu 12.04.  I get mount: unknown filesystem type 'exfat'.... which is odd, because fdisk -l shows HPFS/NTFS/exFAT ... which is identical to what's on my windoze XP drive which does in fact mount.
[19:52] <genii> apb1963: install package exfat-utils
[19:52] <apb1963> so... unless someone has some other good ideas, I was thinking I'd install exfat and give that a go.  Question is... what's the status of exfat on 12.04 and what's the currently recommended way of grabbing it?
[19:52] <apb1963> genii: ya beat me to the question.  lol
[19:53] <Jordan_U> apb1963: fdisk only knows about partitions, it knows nothing about filesystems. A partition type tells you almost nothing about what filesystem might actually be contained there (as can be seen by the fact that it's stating "HPFS/NTFS/exFAT/banana/" rather than "exFAT").
[19:54] <apb1963> Jordan_U: thank you for reminding me of that....  (the mind is a terrible thing to baste).
[19:55] <apb1963> all is well
[19:55] <lkyw> hello everyone, I need to create the command line version of the operations that I used to create a partition via disk utility (the one that appears when typing palimpsest). from the selection of the volume over the creation of the partition to encrypting  and mounting it. which one of these are the correct projection of what I did via disk utility GUI: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7582586/   or  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7582589/ ?
[19:55] <apb1963> genii: Jordan_U: thank you thank you
[19:56] <arun_> #doothings
[19:57] <compdoc> #wearedoingthings
[19:57] <Jordan_U> lkyw: The first is certainly in the wrong order. I haven't confirmed that the second is correct, but the order looks right.
[19:57] <nimbiotics> rek, is my question I OT?
[19:58] <lkyw> Jordan_U, i suspected the same. can anyone here maybe confirm the second?
[20:00] <xqo> hey, when i do  /etc/init.d/ssh restart, i get no output
[20:01] <xqo> and when i try to connect as root, my changes to /etc/ssh/sshd_config have not been applied (im trying to disable root login)
[20:02] <Jordan_U> xqo: Use "sudo service ssh restart" instead.
[20:02] <xqo> Jordan_U thanks, that worked
[20:02] <Jordan_U> xqo: You're welcome.
[20:03] <genii> I wonder if all this will go back to issuing init.d scripts when systemd hits
[20:04] <apb1963> genii: Jordan_U: What's your opinion on exfat?  Should I use it, or reformat to ntfs?  From what I've read, exfat is unreliable because it only has one FAT table.
[20:05] <Jordan_U> genii: Nope, there will be no init.d scripts, and "sudo service foo restart" will keep on working, even if "sudo systemctl restart foo" will be the "canonical" way to do it.
[20:05] <xqo> does apache not run by default on ubuntu?
[20:05] <Jordan_U> apb1963: It depends on what you're using it for, but for most things I would indeed prefer ntfs over exFAT.
[20:06] <Jordan_U> xqo: It runs by default if you've installed it.
[20:06] <xqo> Jordan_U ok, coz in debian its just installed and running by default
[20:07] <Jordan_U> xqo: Only if you told debian-installer to install apache.
[20:07] <apb1963> Jordan_U: from what I've read... it's good for huge files, and file sharing with mac's.
[20:07] <savid> Does anyone know what the linux equivalent of this command is (in OSX): hdiutil convert /path/to/ubuntu.iso -format UDRW -o /path/to/target.img
[20:07] <savid> It's not dd
[20:07] <genii> apb1963: Since i don't know much about exfat, I don't really have an opion about it at this time.
[20:07] <apb1963> genii: fair enough :)
[20:09] <xqo> what does -p do to mkdir?
[20:09] <xqo> oh, never mind
[20:10] <Jordan_U> apb1963: It's no better for large files than any decently modern filesystem (ext4, ntfs, xfs, btrfs, ...). It looks like the interoperability with OSX (10.6.5 and later) is better than with ntfs.
[20:11] <Sarseo> Fascinating...
[20:12] <Sarseo> I cannot view several png files on my ntfs partition
[20:12] <Jordan_U> savid: I would instead just try to prepare the USB drive for UEFI booting (hoping that that would also allow it to boot via Apple's EFI) using grub-install, then loop boot an Ubuntu iso.
[20:12] <apb1963> Jordan_U: ok, guess I don't need it then.  Thanks :)
[20:12] <Jordan_U> apb1963: You're welcome :)
[20:12] <g0twig_> My elantech touchpad is not recognized
[20:12] <g0twig_> pls help
[20:12] <g0twig_> http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4927#dl
[20:13] <nimbiotics> Hello. Using Ubuntu 14.04LTS with MATE. System keeps crashing everyday w/o warnings. How can I find out what is happenning?? TIA!!
[20:14] <SupaYoshi> How do I upgrade ubuntu raring to latest?
[20:16] <Squarepy> nimbiotics, check all the logs!
[20:16] <winterflower> hey everyone, I was wondering if anyone could tell me why my input.h file does not contain the keycodes for each key?
[20:17] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | SupaYoshi
[20:18] <SupaYoshi> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/serverguide/installing-upgrading.html
[20:18] <Palomino> I am installing on Ubuntu 14.04 LinuxTv with a Terratec Cinergy HTC Stick (in dvb-c = cable mode) but i get "Could not load firmware file dvb-usb-terratec-htc-stick-drxk.fw" ? How can i solve this ?
[20:18] <SupaYoshi> I found this
[20:18] <SupaYoshi> Im trying that, cus i have terminal only
[20:18] <nimbiotics> Squarepy: I wouldnt even know hwere to start, where the logs are, not even their names. Where would you start?
[20:19] <savid> Jordan_U: I just remembered, back when I first put ubuntu on my macbook, I ended up disabling UEFI in my mac bios. My laptop is in "legacy boot mode" now.
[20:20] <savid> Of course, now I have no idea how to access the macbook bios now that I've completely removed OSX.
[20:20] <g0twig_> Can anyone help me about my elantech touchpad?
[20:20] <g0twig_> It seems there is no support at all for linux
[20:20] <CREEEPEREXPLOSIV> hla
[20:20] <Jordan_U> savid: I don't think it's possible to disable EFI (not UEFI) boot in Apple's boot firmware (not BIOS).
[20:21] <Pici> g0twig_: There was a mention of a touchpad bug in the 14.04 release notes, did you read that?
[20:21] <g0twig_> no
[20:21] <CREEEPEREXPLOSIV> yano estoy baneado¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡
[20:21] <savid> Jordan_U: Maybe it was how I formatted the drive, but I don't have /sys/firmware/efi
[20:21] <phunyguy> !es CREEEPEREXPLOSIV
[20:21] <phunyguy> !es | CREEEPEREXPLOSIV
[20:21] <g0twig_> Pici: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes no note
[20:22] <OEP> I'm trying to print to a my CUPS server (14.04) directly from non-local clients but I keep getting "Create-Job client-error-not-authorized" errors in the logs (though I think I'm allowing this from all clients)
[20:22] <Pici> g0twig_: It is the first item under kernel:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes#Kernel
[20:22] <savid> Jordan_U: so you're saying I should be able to format the USB disk to boot in UEFI mode?
[20:22] <OEP> but local clients (e.g. Samba) seem to work
[20:22] <g0twig_> Pici: I dont understand. I have elantech
[20:24] <lkyw> can anyone maybe confirm me whether this is the correct command line projection of creating an encrypted partition via disk utility GUI please?
[20:24] <lkyw> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7582589/
[20:25] <Squarepy> nimbiotics, I would start with google search about logs to check when crashing
[20:26] <Jordan_U> savid: For booting via EFI, yes. Start by partitioning the USB drive using GPT, with a single FAT32 partition.
[20:26] <savid> Jordan_U: shouldn't the latest ubuntu ISO already be UEFI bootable?
[20:27] <Jordan_U> savid: I'd have to check if it's UEFI bootable when dd'd to a hard drive.
[20:28] <Pici> gotwig: While I was able to track down the bug, it doesn't look like there is a fix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1272777
[20:28] <gotwig> Pici: wow thanks
[20:29] <savid> Ok, I'll see if I can figure it out. The whole GPT/UEFI thing is confusing to me. I miss the days when booting was simple.
[20:29] <gotwig> Pici: so a general linux issue
[20:29] <gorhgorh> after a fresh install i used the nvidia drivers, after a reboot i got an error (init nvida-persistance main process terminated with status 1) and end up in the terminal
[20:29] <gorhgorh> can i revert that ?
[20:29] <Pici> gotwig: yeah :(
[20:29] <TJ-> savid Jordan_U Yes, the ISOs are UEFI bootable
[20:29] <savid> TJ-: So if that's the case, I wonder why my macbook couldn't boot it from USB?
[20:30] <gotwig> Pici: but my touchpad is not listed under xinput
[20:30] <gotwig> or devices
[20:30] <gotwig> or anywhere
[20:30] <anont34> здравствуйте!
[20:31] <anont34>  hello
[20:31] <TJ-> savid: UEFI is simpler than BIOS, just takes adjusting ones expectations.  Check out http://www.rodsbooks.com/ubuntu-efi/
[20:31] <phunyguy> anont34, hello, English only in this channel please. :)
[20:31] <vlt> !ru | anon3484
[20:31] <phunyguy> meh.
[20:32] <vlt> lkyw: I don’t know what the GUI tool does. But this looks fine to me.
[20:32] <Pici> gotwig: I don't know what to suggest, sorry :/
[20:33] <gotwig> Pici: https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/log/?id=36189cc3cd57ab0f1cd75241f93fe01de928ac06&qt=grep&q=elantech
[20:33] <lkyw> vlt, the gui does these: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7582815/
[20:33] <savid> TJ-: the ubuntu instructions for usb booting say to use the OSX "hdiconvert" utility to conver the iso to UDRW. Is there a way to do that in linux?
[20:34] <Jordan_U> savid: The Ubuntu iso image contains an apple lable, and an msdos partition label, but no GPT. It does have have an EFI system partition that's available via the msdos label, which many UEFI machines might boot from, but I woudn't be surprised if Apple's EFI only boots from GPT labeled drives via EFI.
[20:35] <Jordan_U> savid: So if you don't mind taking the time to try it, it may work to just dd the iso to the drive without any "conversion", but don't be surprised if it fails.
[20:35] <phunyguy> no there is a conversion that needs to happen
[20:35] <savid> Jordan_U: I already did that, which is why I'm here :)
[20:35] <phunyguy> I just can't remember off the top of my head what...
[20:35] <CREEEPEREXPLOSIV> hla
[20:36] <Palomino> I am installing on Ubuntu 14.04 LinuxTv with a Terratec Cinergy HTC Stick (in dvb-c = cable mode) but i get "Could not load firmware file dvb-usb-terratec-htc-stick-drxk.fw" ? How can i solve this ?
[20:36] <Jordan_U> savid: Great, then let's move forward to preparing a USB drive properly :)
[20:36] <phunyguy> CREEEPEREXPLOSIV, can we help you with something?
[20:36] <CREEEPEREXPLOSIV> hola miqui
[20:36] <savid> Jordan_U: awesome, I appreciate the help!
[20:36] <lkyw> vlt, of course, except for the keyring part
[20:36] <vlt> lkyw: Ok then. (And except for the ext3/ext4 part, but that was not part of your question :-D )
[20:37] <module000> phunyguy: the ubuntu ISO will boot on a mac without any molesting needed(nowadays), that wasn't always the case. boot your mac with the option key held and your media inserted. you will see it listed as a bootable device you can select
[20:37] <CREEEPEREXPLOSIV> noentiendo
[20:37] <Jordan_U> savid: To do so, start by partitioning the drive using GPT, and create a single FAT32 partition.
[20:37] <nimbiotics> Squarepy: thx
[20:37] <TJ-> savid: see also, http://askubuntu.com/questions/58813/install-ubuntu-on-a-macbook-pro-using-efi-instead-of-refit-or-similar
[20:37] <Jordan_U> savid: You can use GParted to accomplish this, or parted + mkfs.vfat.
[20:38] <lkyw> vlt, oh yes! thank you for hinting, and for your help, too!
[20:39] <CREEEPEREXPLOSIV> ok
[20:40] <phunyguy> !es > CREEEPEREXPLOSIV
[20:44] <CREEEPEREXPLOSIV> no
[20:45] <Jordan_U> savid: Still there? Having any problems?
[20:45] <CREEEPEREXPLOSIV> i talk in spain
[20:45] <savid> Jordan_U: Ok, I just figured out how to create the GPT partition table and have formatted the usb as fat32
[20:46] <savid> Jordan_U: I've gotten this far: http://i.imgur.com/HG1E5sD.png
[20:47] <savid> Oh wait, I made the partition 100%. Should it have been smaller?
[20:47] <Jordan_U> savid: No, using 100% of the drive is fine.
[20:47] <savid> oh ok
[20:48] <Jordan_U> savid: Great, now we need to set that partitions GUID such that it's recognised as a an "EFI System Partition". Trying to figure out how to do that with GParted now, or you can use gdisk which I'm more familiar with.
[20:48] <Jordan_U> savid: What "flags" are available for that partition in GParted?
[20:50] <niko>  /114
[20:51] <savid> Jordan_U: http://i.imgur.com/TP77xLS.png
[20:52] <Jordan_U> savid: Check the "boot" flag.
[20:54] <savid> Jordan_U: ok done
[20:54] <Jordan_U> savid: OK, now mount it to /mnt/.
[20:55] <Jordan_U> savid: What version of Ubuntu are you working from currently?
[20:55] <savid> Ok, mounted
[20:55] <savid> Jordan_U: 13.10
[20:56] <Jordan_U> savid: sudo apt-get install grub-efi-amd64-bin
[20:57] <Jordan_U> savid: Then "sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/ --efi-directory=/mnt/ --removable", after which you should have a USB drive that your Mac can boot from via EFI (to a grub shell).
[20:59] <savid> Jordan_U: It's saying "Install device isn't specified."
[20:59] <Jordan_U> savid: Sorry, forgot the critical "--target=x86_64-efi".
[21:00] <savid> Ah, cool that worked.
[21:00] <savid> So, now I have disk with grub, but how do I get the ubuntu installer on there?
[21:01] <Jordan_U> savid: OK, now you can either do a quick reboot to test that it worked, or we can just continue to configuring it to loop boot Ubuntu on the assumption that your firmware will boot from the drive.
[21:01] <sepeck> ;mship SN3
[21:02] <SergioAD> Hello I will install Ubuntu Gnome 14.04 because is the purest Ubuntu at all the flavours and I will install Cinnamon what repo recommend me and how can I remove all the Ubuntu components after it?
[21:02] <savid> Jordan_U: let's run w/ the assumption that it'll work, that way I'll at least know the steps
[21:03] <Jordan_U> savid: OK, first copy the standard 14.04 64 bit iso (*not* the +mac iso, not a 32 bit iso) to the fat32 partition. Literally just copy the iso file over as a file, no extracting the files.
[21:04] <rsumiwork> is there a way to run “sudo apt-get upgrade” without bringing up the ncurses window for grub and stuff?
[21:04] <Jordan_U> rsumiwork: You want it to be compeltely non-interactive? If so, how do you expect any questions to be answered?
[21:05] <OEP> rsumiwork: there is a way to specify defaults that you would normally type into those prompts but the name escapes me
[21:05] <rsumiwork> Jordan_U: Yes i’m trying to automate my vagrant build so i don’t want it asking questions. the defaults are actually fine
[21:06] <Jordan_U> SergioAD: Sounds like what you really want to do is a minimal install.
[21:06] <Jordan_U> !minimal | SergioAD
[21:07] <Jordan_U> rsumiwork: Usually if you're being prompted there aren't good defaults, almost by definition. What are you currently being prompted about?
[21:07] <rsumiwork> Jordan_U: about grub
[21:07] <SergioAD> I do not install mint because Mint has not official OS upgrading support for Mint, and also I plain use Gnome 3.12 and a blue colours base artwork
[21:07] <Jordan_U> rsumiwork: Please try to be more specific.
[21:10] <OEP> rsumiwork: you might take a look at debconf-set-selections and see if it can do what you need
[21:10] <savid> Jordan_U: ok, file's copied over. The mounted fs now has three dirs, "EFI", "grub", and "ubuntu-gnome-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso"
[21:11] <Jordan_U> savid: Great. Follow http://www.supergrubdisk.org/wiki/Loopback.cfg#How_do_you_use_a_loopback.cfg_to_boot_an_iso.3F to create an appropriate grub/grub.cfg and you're be ready to go.
[21:12] <sickgirl> hello someone can help me with some ip ussue?
[21:12] <sickgirl> issue*
[21:12] <savid> Thanks! Wish me luck :p
[21:12] <Roarcat> Q: Is there a way to have Ctrl+C and Ctrl+v for copy and paste, work on the terminal, instead of Ctrl+shit+c or whatever it is ? Thanks
[21:12] <xangua> Roarcat: gnome terminal, edit menu, keywords
[21:13] <Jordan_U> Roarcat: No. ctrl+c is far to basic a key binding (for sending a kill signal) to reasonably override for copying.
[21:13] <OEP> rsumiwork: and correspondingly debconf-get-selections to generate the selections file you need
[21:13] <Roarcat> xangua, thanks for looking. is there a different terminal that I may use, that comes with this by default instead ?
[21:14] <Roarcat> Jordan_U, that's a nice point actually. I've been working with Mac Osx at work for 2 years now, and I can do Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V plus having the ctrl+c to send a kill signal
[21:14] <Roarcat> so, I prefer the way the terminal works on mac osx to be honest
[21:14] <Jordan_U> Roarcat: No you can't, you can do *command* +c and *command* +v.
[21:15] <Jordan_U> Roarcat: If you want to use super+c and super+v for copying and pasting in the terminal, that is fine.
[21:15] <Roarcat> Jordan_U, oh ok, sorry I thought I was doing ctrl+c on the mac, not exactly a mac user here : )
[21:15] <Roarcat> Jordan_U, any suggestion for a good terminal ? I've been using he default one and tried terminator
[21:16] <sickgirl> someone?
[21:16] <Jordan_U> sickgirl: Start by asking your question.
[21:18] <SergioAD> ubottu: it is not coise for me :D
[21:19] <d9ping> Is there any solution or workround for this bug yet: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/git/+bug/917758 ?
[21:19] <SergioAD> I hate this form to do the things like Arch / Debian
[21:20] <d9ping> I don't want a full reinstall for this.
[21:20] <SergioAD> the best for me is remove all the Ubuntu gnome's unity  component
[21:21] <rsumiwork> OEP: Thanks I will take a look :)
[21:22] <OEP> no problem, last time I did a vagrant VM that did the trick for me
[21:26] <OEP> d9ping: (based on http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9311627/dpkg-how-to-ignore-error-in-post-pre-scripts) maybe `dpkg -r --force-all` the troublesome package but not totally sure of the ramifications
[21:26] <Jordan_U> SergioAD: Ubuntu GNOME doesn't have Unity, it has GNOME Shell. That's the point.
[21:28] <d9ping> didn't work, dpkg: error processing package git-daemon-sysvinit (--remove)
[21:31] <Jordan_U> savid: Did the USB drive boot?
[21:31] <OEP> d9ping: you don't happen to know why the postrm script is failing do you
[21:31] <savid> Jordan_U: haven't tried yet, got pulled away for a bit. I'm setting up a grub cfg right now
[21:31] <d9ping> No it's just keep returning errocode 1.
[21:32] <d9ping> OEP: Where can i find the postrm script?
[21:33] <OEP> d9ping: looks like /var/lib/dpkg/info/<package-name>.postrm
[21:34] <kingbeowolf> is there a way I can figure out how much non free software is on my system?
[21:34] <TeraJL> hi there, how can i set "Move window to workspace <#>" to alt+shift+<#>?
[21:34] <kingbeowolf> like just limited to drivers
[21:34] <lucas_> hello
[21:35] <d9ping> Just quick hack to let it return 0.. and see what happens :)
[21:36] <alin__> hello ubuntu
[21:36] <alin__> what irc client is the best?
[21:36] <d9ping> Thanks OEP it work.
[21:36] <d9ping> worked
[21:37] <OEP> d9ping: cool, just a note: you could `set -x` in case you want to see where it crapped out (so you can manually clean it up if necessary)
[21:39] <savid> Jordan_U: so my only question is what to put for "linux" and "initrd" in the loopback.cfg?
[21:40] <savid> Jordan_U: my menu entry looks like this: http://sprunge.us/SBSC
[21:42] <savid> Jordan_U: and this is my loopback.cfg so far, not sure if it's right: http://sprunge.us/WYCb
[21:45] <savid> Seems like that should work. I'm going to try it. Will let you know.
[21:45] <sudormrf> having a strange issue.  I added a certain repo to sources.list, however it times out.  I try to wget the repo asc file and it says connection refused, however if I try to browse to it using a web browser it works fine.  If I browse to the asc file using a web browser it asks me to download it.  I am wondering if the CLI stuff is timing out.  is there any way I can increase the timeout for the CLI when it does updates/etc?
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> sudormrf: what is the output of: sudo apt-get update
[21:46] <sudormrf> ActionParsnip, It gives me a few odd errors
[21:46] <sudormrf> let me pb them
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> sudormrf: ty
[21:47] <Jordan_U> savid: Your firstm menu entry was correct. Your second may work.
[21:49] <sudormrf> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7583196/
[21:49] <Jordan_U> savid: Actually your second entry will certainly not work.
[21:50] <tgm4883> Anyone used an analog VGA+KM to USB adapter and/or know of any software that works for it in linux? I have a couple of these, but apparently the software only works on old kernels from 12.04   http://www.startech.com/Server-Management/KVM-Switches/Portable-USB-PS-2-KVM-Console-Adapter-for-Notebook-PCs~NOTECONS01
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> sudormrf: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> tgm4883: why not use synergy and do it over the network?
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> tgm4883: you dont need anything additional then. Works on Mac, Windows and Linux
[21:51] <tgm4883> ActionParsnip: these are to replace our broken KVM's in the rack, which we use in case things go bad, which doesn't guarentee that the network is up
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> tgm4883: i see
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> sudormrf: its a single line, no need to pastebin
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> !away > CyberJacob|Away
[21:54] <Jordan_U> savid: Ahh, I see where you were hung up. For some reason the Ubuntu Gnome image doesn't contain a loopback.cfg.
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> sudormrf: if you need a fileserver, just install openssh-server and you have an SFTP server giving secure file access.... Why is this needed
[21:54] <gorhgorh> hi there i installed additional drivers from nvido for my graphic card and now my sceen is black, how can i disable them ? (can I ? )
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> gorhgorh: add the boot option: nvidia.blacklist=1
[21:56] <gorhgorh> thanks ActionParsnip i do that in grub right ?
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> gorhgorh: yes, hold shift at boot etc
[21:57] <Numline1> Hello, is anybody else having problems with Duplicity and S3 for past few days?
[21:59] <mojtaba> Hi, I get this error after using rsync, Do you know what should I do? From where can I check the error? rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred (see previous errors) (code 23) at main.c(1655) [generator=3.1.0]
[22:02] <zerowaitstate> tgm4883: I used one from Raritan and good luck with it
[22:02] <tgm4883> zerowaitstate: you don't like it?
[22:03] <zerowaitstate> tgm4883: I meant to say "I had good luck with it"
[22:03] <savid> Jordan_U: Ok, so it booted grub (yay!) but it only booted into a minimal cmd line, and I wasn't sure what to do from there.
[22:03] <tgm4883> zerowaitstate:
[22:03] <zerowaitstate> tgm4883: but it was a little pricey
[22:03] <tgm4883> zerowaitstate: any open source software that you used with it or something they shipped with it?
[22:04] <zerowaitstate> tgm4883: nah, I just used a vanilla RHEL 5 with it
[22:04] <zerowaitstate> tgm4883: no drivers or anything
[22:04] <zerowaitstate> tgm4883: it was a DX2-232
[22:06] <tgm4883> zerowaitstate: that looks a bit different than what we've got. These use a laptop to connect to the servers
[22:06] <Jordan_U> savid: That probably means that you saved your grub.cfg to the wrong path, it should have been saved to "grub/grub.cfg" on the fat32 partition. But since the Ubuntu GNOME images were apparently not built properly, we'll need to do some more fiddling than normal as well.
[22:07] <zerowaitstate> tgm4883: you mean a console. yeah, you can plug one into the back of it along with the IP connectivity
[22:07] <Randy_O> I've been working on this problem all day: I have an ubuntu server that suddenly doesnt connect to the internet for apt-get. I can still ping websites but can't wget them, I get connection refused. Nay one seen this before?
[22:08] <zerowaitstate> Randy_O: sounds like dns or firewall issues
[22:08] <zerowaitstate> Randy_O: I would check dns first
[22:08] <mojtaba> Hi, I get this error after using rsync, Do you know what should I do? From where can I check the error? rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred (see previous errors) (code 23) at main.c(1655) [generator=3.1.0]
[22:08] <tgm4883> zerowaitstate: No, I mean a laptop. The KVM connects to the laptop via USB, which plugs into a VGA+USB ports in the front of the servers. the problem being that the crappy software that interfaces with the KVM only works on 12.04 and requires a seemingly beefy CPU (faster than the old ones I've got laying around)
[22:09] <Randy_O> I agree, I think DNS, but I've checked everything I can think of: dns-servers in interfaces file and the nameserver in resolvconf. no luck
[22:09] <zerowaitstate> tgm4883: oh, you're talking about the client machine.
[22:09] <xeno_> This doesn't seem to solve my problem:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/261858/the-phpmyadmin-configuration-storage-is-not-completely-configured
[22:09] <Randy_O> I can still ping by host name (ping google.com does work)
[22:09] <tgm4883> zerowaitstate: yes, I suppose so
[22:09] <tgm4883> zerowaitstate: I probably could have been more clear about that :)
[22:09] <savid> Jordan_U: Here's what my grub setup looks like so far: http://sprunge.us/hVWH
[22:10] <Katkot> Hello.  I need help setting up Ubuntu with some school projectors.  The problem is that the projector setup is obscure and weird.  It uses vga cables connected to some sort of ethernet adapter.  Here's a link to the product we're using: http://www.startech.com/AV/Extenders/VGA/Ethernet-to-VGA-over-IP-Converter~IPUSB2VGA
[22:10] <zerowaitstate> tgm4883: the raritan loaded a java or activex frontend at my option
[22:10] <zerowaitstate> tgm4883: via a browser
[22:10] <xeno_> In fact, it destroys what was working on my site.
[22:10] <tgm4883> zerowaitstate: yea, unfortunately these don't connect that way :/
[22:10] <Katkot> I'm afraid there is no solution to setting up these projectors but I'm hoping there may be a way
[22:13] <Jordan_U> savid: So, to start, the /boot/grub/loopback.cfg isn't a file that you're supposed to create. It's a file created by the Ubuntu developers themselves, and should be contained within the iso file itself (and is in the normal Ubuntu Desktop images, but not in the Ubuntu GNOME images). Second, the file containing your menu entries needs to be named "grub/grub.cfg", not "grub/custom.cfg". The custom.cfg name would only be used if you ...
[22:13] <Jordan_U> ... were adding an entry to your existing Ubuntu installation's grub (rather than the stand alone grub on the USB drive).
[22:13] <zerowaitstate> Katkot: all I can recommend is run a supported windows version, and run your ubuntu inside virtualbox from that
[22:15] <Katkot> zerowaitstate, ah but that's not a solution we can use... we want to ditch Windows eventually.
[22:15] <Katkot> But I understand that it may not be possible
[22:15] <zerowaitstate> Katkot: well, then they are going to have to change the type of extender they are using
[22:16] <Katkot> Yeah, due to summer coming soon I was thinking of a different way we can go about this
[22:17] <Katkot> zerowaitstate, is there any alternative that we can use?
[22:17] <Katkot> Money can be spent on replacing the vga cables with something else
[22:17] <Katkot> Erm not the vga cables, I mean this convertor thing
[22:17] <savid> Jordan_U: Ah, gotcha. So, I should be able to mount the ISO and drop in the loopback.cfg?
[22:18] <zerowaitstate> Katkot: it depends on the length of your runs. The problem is that VGA is analog, so over long runs it tends to degrade.
[22:19] <XeBlackWater> Hello
[22:19] <XeBlackWater> i need some support here
[22:19] <Katkot> zerowaitstate, ah ok.  The wires tend to run pretty far
[22:19] <Katkot> So that could be an issue
[22:20] <zerowaitstate> Katkot: for example, an alternative might be  ST122UTPA.
[22:20] <XeBlackWater> i use irssi and where i see all commands
[22:20] <XeBlackWater> on ubuntu 14.04
[22:20] <XeBlackWater> best linux :D
[22:20] <zerowaitstate> Katkot: however that has a max run of 500 ft.
[22:20] <Katkot> http://www.startech.com/AV/Extenders/VGA/Converge-AV-VGA-and-Audio-over-Cat5-UTP-Extender~ST122UTPA
[22:20] <Katkot> Something like that?
[22:20] <Katkot> I don't know if we'll go over 500 feet, I'll have to measure.  It's a small school
[22:21] <Jordan_U> savid: Not quite, iso files are read only. Just a second and I'll give you a grub.cfg that should work.
[22:21] <OerHeks> XeBlackWater, man irssi & https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi
[22:21] <savid> Ah, ok. thanks :)
[22:21] <zerowaitstate> Katkot: yeah, the other thing is the other end of the cable is probably plugged into a network switch instead of the presentation location, so you would have to rewire
[22:21] <XeBlackWater> OerHeks: Ty friend
[22:22] <Katkot> zerowaitstate, ok got it
[22:23] <Jordan_U> savid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7583349/
[22:24] <pot> hi every one
[22:25] <haffaf> hey is there a solution to open UDP port "27960 " there's a proxy in university, i can't play urban terror. Thanks guys
[22:27] <Katkot> zerowaitstate, another issue.  After getting the projectors up and running we still have the ebeams
[22:27] <Katkot> Some teachers want to use the ebeam but I don't know if it'll work on GNU/Linux or not
[22:27] <Katkot> It seems like a gray area.  Is there any other whiteboards that may be usable?
[22:27] <tyhma_> how do I stop the ****** annoying thing that pops up every time I connect my heaphones?????
[22:27] <Katkot> Something similar to an ebeam or smartboard that we can use
[22:29] <tyhma_> next laptop I buy will be macbook
[22:31] <savid> Jordan_U: cool, thanks. Trying again :)
[22:31] <tgm4883> tyhma_: what annoying thing?
[22:32] <Jordan_U> savid: You're welcome. Hope it works this time :)
[22:32] <tyhma_> the pop-up that asks what I connected
[22:32] <tgm4883> tyhma_: How do the headphones connect, I've never heard of that
[22:33] <tgm4883> and I've used both USB headsets and regular 3.5mm connections
[22:33] <tyhma_> WHEN I PLUG IN HEADPHONES THE FUCKING OS ASKS WHETHER I CONNECTED HEAPHONES OR A HEADSET
[22:33] <tyhma_> EVERY TIME
[22:33] <tgm4883> le sigh
[22:33] <IdleOne> drop the caps and watch the language please
[22:34] <OerHeks> tyhma_, windows 8 ?
[22:34] <tgm4883> tyhma_: thats ok, don't answer my questions. I suppose I can guess what you are trying to do.
[22:35] <aaa801> So, i just discovered that when our gameservers crash, they don't actually die properly.. http://i.imgur.com/s8mxOUy.png x 1000
[22:35] <XeBlackWater> hy
[22:35] <XeBlackWater> i read you post and it help my
[22:35] <XeBlackWater> ty
[22:36] <vrcca> hey guys
[22:36] <ilovebtc> ppl a have a problem on ubuntu: i installed 331 driver (for 750ti) but jockey-gtk shows "driver installed but not activated" what to do?
[22:36] <pot> did any know about xface ubuntu
[22:36] <Jordan_U> tyhma_: Are these USB headphones, 3.5mm analog jack, or something else? What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[22:36] <tyhma_> 3.55 mm
[22:36] <vrcca> does anybody know how to fix this problem? http://imgur.com/WzwFVdx the font is different since i installed ubuntu 14.04 (x64)
[22:37] <ilovebtc> ppl a have a problem on ubuntu: i installed 331 driver (for 750ti) but jockey-gtk shows "driver installed but not activated" what to do?
[22:37] <Jordan_U> tyhma_: And your Ubuntu version?
[22:38] <tyhma_> buntu 14.04 lts
[22:38] <tyhma_> ubuntu 14.04 lts
[22:39] <Jordan_U> tyhma_: Could you please post a screenshot of this prompt?
[22:39] <kingbeowolf> is there a way I can figure out how much non free software is on my system?
[22:39] <kingbeowolf> like just limited to drivers
[22:39] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | tyhma_
[22:42] <Lord_Sunday123> Hey, can anyone help me out? I deleted /etc/apparmor.d/abstractions/mysql and now i get an apparmor error. Can i regen this?
[22:42] <tyhma_> Jordan_U: http://imagebin.org/312696
[22:42] <Lord_Sunday123> As to why it was deleted, long story and really annoying day.
[22:42] <Lord_Sunday123> Just need to know if i can regen it
[22:43] <OerHeks> oh no imagebin again ...
[22:44] <phunyguy> Lord_Sunday123, here is the contents of mine http://paste.openstack.org/show/82688/
[22:44] <OerHeks> try picpaste.com, imagebin is again under attack of malware says chrome
[22:44] <Lord_Sunday123> phunyguy: Thanks :D
[22:45] <tgm4883> Jordan_U: tyhma_ Take a look at this bug, there is a workaround for it on comment #13 although I'm not sure how easy it is to do   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-settings-daemon/+bug/1297790
[22:45] <tyhma_> I wonder who designed this pop-up question. There's no way to disable it
[22:46] <OerHeks> tyhma_, i think none of us can see the imagebin, as the site is blocked
[22:46] <tgm4883> tyhma_: look at the link I posted, it has a way to resolve it
[22:47] <tyhma_> http://imgur.com/9e4ZzGV
[22:50] <OerHeks> good article http://voices.canonical.com/david.henningsson/2014/03/07/headset-jacks-on-newer-laptops/
[22:51] <alexi5> hello
[22:51] <alexi5> what are some good laptops that are fully compaible with ubuntu ?
[22:51] <`mist> hey guys, stupid question here. How do i restart inetd on 12.04 lts?
[22:52] <`mist> or rather reload the config so that a program specified in inetd.conf starts with udp4 instead of udp
[22:53] <OerHeks> alexi5, this is a start > http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/
[22:53] <ImQ009> hex20dec is a faget
[22:54] <sl33k_> How do I check from terminal that I have two pip installs in /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin causing compatibility issues? I presume use ls. But can I specify two directories in 1 command?
[22:54] <sl33k_> ls /usr ?
[22:55] <sl33k_> ls /usr/bin | grep pip ?
[22:56] <Diamondcite> sl33k_: ls /usr/bin /usr/local/bin | grep pip
[22:56] <hex20dec> sl33k_: which or locate
[22:56] <philip> ImQ.. sweet spelling you Garden Gnome.."faget"
[22:56] <hex20dec> sl33k_: or where
[22:56] <savid> Jordan_U: I got "no suitable video mode found. booting in blind mode."
[22:56] <hex20dec> whereis that is I think
[22:57] <gassho> whatsa garden gnome
[22:57] <Jordan_U> savid: Did you wait to see if it would still boot normally?
[22:57] <philip> ? whats a garden gnome? are you for real?
[22:57] <gassho> i thought you meant something other than a statue, like some neato keen hacker jargon :>
[22:58] <savid> Jordan_U: I waited a maybe a couple minutes, should I have been more patient?
[22:58] <sl33k_> Diamondcite: that did it thanks a lot!
[22:58] <tyhma_> OerHeks: I dont have a headset or microphone
[22:58] <philip> the best kind of statue tho
[22:58] <`mist> anyone ever use ytalk?
[22:59] <Diamondcite> Never heard of a ytalk
[22:59] <Jordan_U> philip: Please stop the offtopic discussion, and please don't feed the trolls in the future.
[23:00] <gassho> http://bit.ly/1outXmB
[23:00] <gassho> sorry
[23:03] <Jordan_U> savid: No, that was probably long enough to wait.
[23:05] <Jordan_U> savid: Try adding "insmod uga; insmod gop" to your grub.cfg (on a new line, above the menuentry command).
[23:17] <Your_Dog> Goodmorning guys, whenever a 32bit program tries to make an opengl call, it fails and gives me this error "libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast"
[23:17] <Your_Dog> "Direct rendering is disabled, most likely your 32-bit OpenGL drivers haven't been installed correctly (using GL renderer "GeForce 210/PCIe/SSE2", version "1.4 (2.1.2 NVIDIA 319.32)")."
[23:17] <Your_Dog> it was working as is before, this thing just happened.
[23:18] <Reptilia> I am using Xubuntu 14.04 and i have keyboard lag. Anyone has experienced the same issue / knows how can i fix this? I am writing here, because #xubuntu channel won't offer any help at all. Thanks in advance.
[23:18] <Your_Dog> whats wierd is most native 64bit apps are working properly, chrome with gpu-internals states that its hardware accelerated and certain games too (that uses opengl) works. also java 1.8
[23:18] <Conna> hell yeah!!
[23:20] <kingbeowolf> wow what happened
[23:23] <daftykins> Your_Dog: do you see an error about no DRI in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[23:23] <Gaming4JC> Hello all, does anyone know the license for this font? http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/ttf-opensymbol
[23:23] <Your_Dog> let me check
[23:23] <brandontaylor> Empathy is taking forever to connect to my Microsoft (Windows Live/MSN Messenger) account... what's the deal?
[23:23] <Reptilia> I am using Xubuntu 14.04 and i have keyboard lag. Anyone has experienced the same issue / knows how can i fix this? I am writing here, because #xubuntu channel won't offer any help at all. Thanks in advance.
[23:24] <Gaming4JC> I imagine the font is GPL or perhaps Apache but I couldn't find it. Would like to know before using it anywhere in a typeface :)
[23:25] <Your_Dog> daftykins: Nope
[23:26] <Your_Dog> seems to be loading fine.
[23:26] <Your_Dog> [    26.595] (II) NVIDIA(0): [DRI2] Setup complete
[23:26] <Your_Dog> [    26.595] (II) NVIDIA(0): [DRI2]   VDPAU driver: nvidia
[23:26] <maddawg3> yay.. finally got my reverse proxy to work in apache
[23:26] <Your_Dog> [    24.197] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-DRI
[23:26] <Your_Dog> [    24.197] Initializing built-in extension DRI2
[23:26] <maddawg3> took me forever
[23:26] <daftykins> !pastebin | Your_Dog
[23:26] <daftykins> Your_Dog: i believe there's a DRI as well as that DRI2
[23:27] <ikonia> daftykins: doesn't the propritary module take dri from its own module, rather than depend on xorg loading it
[23:27] <Gaming4JC> http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org_3.2.0-7ubuntu4.4/ttf-opensymbol.copyright is dead link -_-
[23:27] <Your_Dog> that's the only lines that shows the keyword dri on it.
[23:27] <Your_Dog> should i pastebin the whole log?
[23:27] <daftykins> ikonia: ah, sounds like you know far more than i :) i was just guessing given the mentioned error really
[23:28] <Your_Dog> well, i was suggested to reinstall the whole system, but i don't want that.
[23:28] <Jordan_U> Gaming4JC: less /usr/share/doc/ttf-opensymbol/copyright
[23:29] <ikonia> daftykins: no, I believe you are correct in what you say, I just remember the nvidia docs saying disable dri in xorg.conf as it forced it to use dri from the module
[23:29] <daftykins> ah i see
[23:29] <thecha> do the programs i installed via ubuntu repository update automaticaly?
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> Gaming4JC, So why is there in issue, it is in the repos right?
[23:30] <daftykins> thecha: if you allow the update manager to run when it pops up, yeah
[23:30] <Gaming4JC> wilee-nilee: wanted to make sure I could use the font for my use, some fonts licenses are rather restrictive
[23:30] <ikonia> Your_Dog: I suspect a library has been updated, and the symlink has changed/not been updated so the 32bit libs are failing to load the library
[23:31] <Your_Dog> well that would make sense
[23:31] <ikonia> Your_Dog: the other possibility is how the 32bit systems try to call 3d interaction,
[23:31] <Your_Dog> so what do i do
[23:32] <ikonia> Your_Dog: run ldd against the software (this isn't wine is it) and see what libraries it requires, then manually verify they are there AND the links they point to exist with the right permissions
[23:32] <wilee-nilee> Gaming4JC, Cool, never had an issue there but I use the ubuntu repos and add nothing but the MS fonts in the restricted extras.
[23:32] <Your_Dog> well, i tried it on wine too and it also displays that error
[23:33] <Your_Dog> but yeah, ill do that
[23:33] <ikonia> Your_Dog: @tried it on wine@ ?
[23:33] <Gaming4JC> Jordan_U: ty for that doc :)
[23:33] <Jordan_U> Gaming4JC: All packages in main should follow DFSG guidelines: http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines
[23:33] <ikonia> please remove wine from the testing
[23:33] <Jordan_U> Gaming4JC: You're welcome :)
[23:33] <Your_Dog> oh ok
[23:33] <ikonia> Your_Dog: what is the software that's failing to run ?
[23:33] <Your_Dog> its an old opengl program that i wrote (using sfml) that displays graphs
[23:33] <Gaming4JC> wilee-nilee: ah. As I understand some fonts can't be used for commercial print :s
[23:33] <Gaming4JC> which is why I figured I'd look into it
[23:34] <ikonia> Your_Dog: ok, so it's something you'll know a lot more about than me, I'd suggest checking the libraries
[23:34] <thecha> daftykins how do i update to a newree version manually<?
[23:34] <Your_Dog> ok ok ill do that.
[23:34] <daftykins> thecha: a newer ubuntu? what are you on now?
[23:37] <sl33k_> My 14.04 does not emit sound from laptop speaker. Unusually, can hear sound when I plug in headphone. What gives?
[23:40] <savid> Jordan_U: no luck.
[23:40] <Jordan_U> savid: If that doesn't work, try booting Ubuntu 14.04 Desktop AMD64 (rather than any variation thereof) and use the loopback.cfg method to boot it.
[23:40] <Jordan_U> savid: Did it at least remove the "booting blind" error message?
[23:43] <morning_star> howdy folks
[23:43] <savid> No, same issue. I actually ended up digging through storage to find some burnable dvds and found some. I'm going to try that route now.
[23:44] <morning_star> what was the ##ubuntu offtopic room i hadnt been able to recall
[23:44] <Jordan_U> morning_star: #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:44] <morning_star> i know this is a support room so figured id ask
[23:45] <morning_star> hey thanks jordan ! cheers
[23:45] <Guest5116> hola
[23:45] <Guest5116> nick DjThree
[23:46] <Guest5116> #nick DjThree
[23:46] <mothran> / not #
[23:46] <thecha> how do i update my version of codeblocks to the current version?
[23:46] <thecha> i am stillon 10.5
[23:46] <Gaming4JC> !es | Guest5116
[23:46] <thecha> is there a way to do this in cli?
[23:47] <thecha> how do i do this in ubuntu?
[23:48] <Gaming4JC> thecha: you can use this PPA from code:blocks https://launchpad.net/~pasgui/+archive/ppa/
[23:48] <sl33k_> This could not help http://askubuntu.com/questions/85652/speakers-dont-work-unless-i-plug-the-headphones-in?rq=1 Which question should I look?
[23:49] <DjThree2000> Hola
[23:50] <Gaming4JC> !es | DjThree2000
[23:56] <sl33k_> How do I remove pip package? I want to reinstall I think there is some corruption.
[23:58] <robjloranger> previously i did not have to run apt-get update before upgrade, the package list kept itself up to date, lately it does not. any idea what happened? it seems to have been after 14 came out
[23:58] <jwinterm> ok, so I have a weird problem, and I think it's a hardware issue with my video card, but please tell me what you think
[23:59] <jwinterm> I have a computer which works fine with onboard graphics, linux or windows, and then I got a used 270x video card. I had win7 installed, and the card seemed to work ok for a few days.