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trismrobjloranger: do you have automatically check for updates not set to daily in software-properties-gtk ?00:00
jwintermthen I started having a problem this morning where the computer would load up, and after it showed starting windows, I would just get a black screen, so I decided to install ubuntu 14.04, and everything seemed OK00:00
robjlorangertrism: i'll look. i haven't used to gui for package management in a long while though00:00
jwintermthen I installed amd catalyst so I could get rid of horrible lo-res desktop, and after install amd driver, I get a black screen after autologin00:00
jwintermI could still get to tty2, and if I uninstalled driver then the desktop would work in lores mode, but driver from repositories or from amd site caused same black desktop issue00:01
trismrobjloranger: well there is a cron job that checks for it, I don't know exactly which setting switches between daily/weekly/never off the top of my head00:01
jwintermso I was like, "fuck it", and I reinstalled win7, and it works, but only until after I install amd catalyst drivers00:02
jwintermthen I get black screen after autologin00:02
jwintermis that video card?00:02
jwintermit must be, right?00:02
jwintermgpu is damaged so it can only handle generic drivers with low resolution?00:02
holstein!nomodeset00:03
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter00:03
owhjwinterm: Watch your language.00:03
holstein!launguage00:03
jwintermsorry00:03
jwintermI was frustrated00:03
robjlorangertrism: oh no i have had that turned of since i started managing packages with cli00:03
owhjwinterm: The video card may not be at fault. It could be the video cable, the monitor, any number of things. It could be your power supply.00:03
holsteinjwinterm: if you have a piece of hardware that doesnt specifically state it supports linux, then, yes, its likely the support of that device that could be the issue00:03
robjlorangertrism: it worked before 14 though. i just ran upgrade and it knew what was new00:04
jwintermpsu may be a possibility00:04
holsteini also agree with owh .. i would try and eliminate hardware failure00:04
jwintermI tried it with hdmi and dvi cable, both behave the same00:04
robjlorangertrism: in the gui package manager anyway00:04
jwintermI don't think it's the tv either, it's connected to tv that seems to working ok00:04
yeticryNetworkManager is not working if /etc/default/grub have " quiet splash ..." parameters. after remove the two parameter and run sudo update-grub and reboot, the NetworkManager is working fine. that's why?00:04
owhjwinterm: Your PSU may be overloaded. Many "modern" PSU's are under size for their work load.00:04
jwintermyea, it's a 500 W00:05
owhjwinterm: Remove all your peripherals to start with.00:05
holsteinjwinterm: i say, if in windows, you are having black screens, its hardware failure00:05
owhI agree with holstein, very likely jwinterm.00:05
jwintermyea, it's the same exact issue between windows and ubuntu, holstein00:05
jwintermok, thanks guys00:05
yeticryit's bug?00:06
trismrobjloranger: the setting is APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists , I kind of doubt it worked with it off without it, the gui just sets the value for apt that the cron job checks00:06
trismrobjloranger: apt-config dump APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Li00:06
robjlorangertrism: i can tell you it worked :)00:06
gasshohow do i re-enable time and date on the bar thinger00:06
gasshothe menu bar00:06
owhgassho: Right click on the menu and add to panel.00:07
robjlorangertrism: 000:07
robjlorangertrism: thats zero, is what it is set to00:07
robjlorangertrism: i originally turned it off to stop notifications popping up00:08
gasshoowh thank you, but it doesn't show an option like that ._.00:09
owhgassho: Which version of Ubuntu?00:09
gassho14.0400:09
gasshoi even went to system settings/time and date/clock; everything had been grayed out and unmanipulable ;-;00:10
trismrobjloranger: the notifications come from update-notifier, you can just disable that from starting in the session, that's what I do00:12
robjlorangerooh, ok :) how do i do that?00:12
robjlorangerlol00:12
Hempathyhi guys, I'm looking for help, the contents of Network Manager are blank, and when I try to add anything I receive a UID error, any ideas?00:12
apb1963Jordan_U: You stlil here?  I tried to change the partition type on my usb drive from exfat to ntfs and this is what I got: http://pastebin.com/3ij1qj6r00:12
trismrobjloranger: cp /etc/xdg/autostart/update-notifier.desktop to ~/.config/autostart remove the NoDisplay=true line and then you can enable/disable it in gnome-session-properties00:13
owhgassho, it seems to be a Bug #1244285 - possible fix is to logout and log back in again. Alternate possible fix is to open the terminal and run this command: killall unity-panel-service00:14
ubottubug 1244285 in One Hundred Papercuts "Date/time sometimes doesn’t appear in menu bar, settings greyed out (Ubuntu 13.10, 14.04)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124428500:14
robjlorangertrism: i'm using kde. does that matter?00:14
trismrobjloranger: probably not00:14
trismrobjloranger: although there is a -kde variant you might need to disable instead00:14
trismrobjloranger: I don't really know how to do that in kde00:15
LonnieI'm sorry to bother you all but what would I have to do to enable webgl in firefox or chrome with an intel i5 cpu and intel hd 4000 graphics? I've installed the drivers from intel for my card and opengl games run fine from steam such as "fistful of frags" but still the browser won't enable webgl00:15
owhLonnie: Which version of Ubuntu?00:16
Lonnie14.0400:16
owhLonnie: I've never done it, but my google-fu suggests that you need to install the drivers for your video card.00:17
LonnieAs I said I have already done that00:17
robjlorangertrism: hmm, i'll check it out. it's strange that it worked before though. for months and months, just apt-get upgrade and it knew lol00:18
apb1963Correcting errors in the Volume Bitmap.00:18
owhLonnie: Sorry, I missed that. What does this URL say: http://get.webgl.org/00:18
apb1963Insufficient disk space to fix volume bitmap.  CHKDSK aborted.00:18
Lonnieowh: Hmm. While your browser seems to support WebGL, it is disabled or unavailable. If possible, please ensure that you are running the latest drivers for your video card.00:18
dolmiohey all00:19
dolmiojust wondering what brand tablets fully support ubuntu now?00:19
trismrobjloranger: yeah I don't know, the cron job is part of apt, not update-notifier00:19
owhLonnie: I don't know any more than that about this, having never done it.00:19
owhLonnie: I'd be looking into driver versions and checking the level of OpenGL support on your system.00:20
LonnieThats fine Thank you for trying :) I couldn't solve it through my own google-fuing so thought I would ask here00:20
LonnieOpenGL version string: 3.0 Mesa 10.1.000:20
Lonniethats from glxinfo00:20
HempathyConnection add failed No session found for uid 1000 (No session found for uid 1000)00:20
owhLonnie: This page shows what Chrome "should be" reporting: http://www.binarytides.com/enable-webgl-in-google-chrome-on-ubuntu/00:20
owhLonnie: It also shows some commandline options to launch.00:21
robjlorangertrism: well thanks for your help :) i have to test out a kernel. i'll be back00:21
dolmiodoes anyone know a pc tablet that fully supports Ubuntu?00:21
robjlorangerdolmio: the new one from dell... it's coming soon, let me find the link00:22
Lonnieeven launching with those command line options webgl is still disabled. I will try to solve it further. Thank you for your help owh00:22
robjlorangerdolmio: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/06/dell-announce-new-laptops-optional-ubuntu00:22
dolmiocheers mate00:22
dolmiothanks alot00:22
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Gaming4JCdolmio: system76 and ThinkPenguin also have a selection. Most of thinkpenguin's doesn't require non-free drivers which is a plus since you won't need to go find binary blobs :)00:25
Gaming4JCdolmio: also this site may be of help to you - http://h-node.org/hardware/catalogue/en00:25
Gaming4JClist of all known-working devices00:26
dolmiothanks for all your help00:26
Hempathyhi guys, I'm looking for help, the contents of Network Manager are blank00:29
haffafhi, have sound without bass, very bad quality . I'm using trusty tahr00:29
haffafwith delll optiplex 39000:29
HempathyHi Haffaf, did it work prior?00:30
haffafHempathy: yeah it works but not with a good quality00:31
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haffafHempathy: the sound work perfectly i put the jack in the front of my pc not behind.00:33
savidJordan_U: so, it appears the DVD method isn't working either. When it started up, before the grub menu, it flashed "Could not open \EFT\Boot\fallback.efi": 1400:34
savidJordan_U: there are other articles that say if I'm running in "legacy mode" then I have to install ubuntu in legacy mode (ie I can't install in UEFI mode). Is that true?00:38
haffafanybody outhere ?00:40
haffafreally need to fix the sound problem00:40
dockitokey ~# chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf00:45
dockitchattr: Operation not supported while reading flags on /etc/resolv.conf00:45
AGGGGGGGGGGGGGGchattr +i /etc/resolv.conf00:49
AGGGGGGGGGGGGGGchattr: Operation not supported while reading flags on /etc/resolv.conf00:49
AGGGGGGGGGGGGGGwhat the fuck00:49
AGGGGGGGGGGGGGGxattr is standard no ?00:49
AGGGGGGGGGGGGGGdid i miss something00:49
IdleOneAGGGGGGGGGGGGGG: please keep the language clean00:49
Mothranwhy the language?00:49
AGGGGGGGGGGGGGGMothran: having one of those days00:49
rwwAGGGGGGGGGGGGGG: ls -l /etc/resolv.conf, paste output here00:50
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AGGGGGGGGGGGGGGlrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 May 22 09:37 /etc/resolv.conf -> ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf00:50
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AGGGGGGGGGGGGGGahhh lemme guess00:50
AGGGGGGGGGGGGGGthe /run is some BS ramdisk00:50
rwwcan't chattr +i symlinks00:51
AGGGGGGGGGGGGGGrww: yea,, nwm i fixed it00:52
AGGGGGGGGGGGGGGwhats the idea about symlinking it00:52
rwwAGGGGGGGGGGGGGG: it's dynamically generated, and putting it in /run means it gets cleared out on reboot00:53
AGGGGGGGGGGGGGGrww: well it was00:53
AGGGGGGGGGGGGGGrww: then i fixed it00:53
AGGGGGGGGGGGGGGrww: then i just have my 70% package loss to fix00:54
rwwcould have just uninstalled resolvconf, I expect. but sure00:54
AGGGGGGGGGGGGGGrww: resolvconf is one of those new fancy daemons ?00:54
rwwAGGGGGGGGGGGGGG: it's been around for a pretty long while00:56
rwwnot sure when Ubuntu started using it, I stick to Debian usually00:56
AGGGGGGGGGGGGGGrww: well i remeber a time where resolv.conf was a file00:56
AGGGGGGGGGGGGGGand dhclient raped it,, but you could tell it not to00:57
rwwStill is, on my system that doesn't have resolvconf installed00:57
AGGGGGGGGGGGGGGrww: ok i threw it out00:58
AGGGGGGGGGGGGGGthat probably broke the whole cardstack00:58
AGGGGGGGGGGGGGGrww: can having a few brigdes mess up my netstack completely00:59
AGGGGGGGGGGGGGGim seeing extremely wierd behaviour on one of my boxes01:00
AGGGGGGGGGGGGGGbut not the other01:00
Fritzendugancan I completely disable/remove pulseaudio and just use alsa in Ubuntu Trusty? If so, can someone link me a good resource on how to do so?01:00
Jordan_Usavid: Did you try the normal Ubuntu image (no GNOME or other special image)?01:02
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FritzenduganI found some forum posts, I'm just gonna try it and see what happens hopefully nothing breaks01:04
Vivekanandahey everyone had someone help me setting up thinkfan from here :  http://mininglines.wordpress.com/2012/06/04/thinkpad-fan-control-in-ubuntu-12-04-25-2/      on my lenovo T61  . some results are here  : http://pastie.org/9255996   . I am just trying to figure out what settings to include in the  /etc/thinkpad.conf   ( not the /etc/modprobe.d/thinkpad.conf)  so the fan rotates faster at lower temps and not very high01:06
homeHi guys01:08
homeI need help trying to get my Wii U Pro Controller working with Ubuntu01:08
homecan someone help me get it working?01:08
homeI need a newer version of bluez*01:08
jake_what seemas01:09
jake_what seems to be the problem01:10
AldeBaranhi all01:10
jake_hi01:10
AldeBaranI have a question that is a bit embarassing..I*should* know this01:11
jake_what seems to be the problem01:11
DreamsofTragedythat ok i say that to my wife all the time01:11
AldeBaranI have samba installed on my box and everytime I kill it (-9 -15 killal etc) it restarts01:11
jake_:|01:11
AldeBaransomething else must be starting it01:11
jake_hmm01:12
AldeBaranhow can I find out what that is01:12
AldeBaranI am certainly killing the process because I can see the restart in the logs01:12
odsenthttp://i.imgur.com/nEnJqBM.png01:12
jake_have you tried restarting the system itself?01:13
AldeBaranjake: not yet...I am oldskool linux geek so that is against my nature but more importantly, I really want to know what is starting the process01:14
Vivekanandais 50 degrees good temp to have fans start or should I put it lower ?01:15
jake_hmm... did the logs say anything more about it?01:15
odsentclick here for a free iphone http://i.imgur.com/nEnJqBM.png01:15
AldeBaranjake: no01:16
hast-thouso 12.04 is latest ubuntu server? or 14?01:16
rwwhast-thou: 14.0401:16
rwwAldeBaran: sudo service samba stop01:16
holsteinhast-thou: theres a version of server for all releases01:17
DreamsofTragedyso they updated the server version?01:17
holstein!server01:17
ubottuUbuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server01:17
rwwDreamsofTragedy: all Ubuntu versions are on the same release cycle01:17
rwwAldeBaran: (upstart is Ubuntu's init system. see http://upstart.ubuntu.com/ for details and documentation)01:17
AldeBaranrww: thanks, that may be it01:20
AldeBaranyep...that worked01:21
keychainredtrying to use ubuntu and itsays i need to windows update01:21
holsteinkeychainred: it?01:22
Fritzenduganok, I removed pulseaudio, but now I can't get my sound to come out of my hdmi (using an nvidia card). It only comes out through my headset. How do I change it?01:22
keychainredi just double checked and im actually using windows, disregard01:22
Jordan_Usavid: The GNOME image was missing other important files, like the entirety of /boot/grub/, so I'm not surprised that it didn't boot correctly.01:22
holsteinFritzendugan: utilizing pulse would likely be the easiest, and maybe the only way01:22
liliI installed gradle with apt-get but I don't know where the installation directory is, anybody can help me with this?01:23
Fritzenduganholstein, I'm not worried about easiest. "maybe the only way" isn't very helpful, no offense :P either it's possible or it's not01:23
AldeBaranrww: lazy question.. how do I stop a deamon from starting? samba in this case01:24
holsteinFritzendugan: everything is technically possible. but, you are using code that you dont have control over, and leaving the defaults of the system01:24
holsteinFritzendugan: i you want to use alsa only, you should konw how to configure.. otherwise, just use pulse.. it should work out of the box, and there should be no ill effects01:24
Vivekanandahey everyone. is it normal for the ac adapter for thinkpad t61 to heat much ? I did not check this before but still I thought it did not heat that much01:25
Fritzenduganholstein, obviously I don't know how to use alsa only, but I want to learn. Therefore I'm trying to learn. Telling me that since I don't know how means I shouldn't isn't very helpful. Pulse was giving me issues with skype and it just seems like an unnecessary layer of abstraction. I'm trying to figure out how to configure alsa.01:26
holsteinFritzendugan: thats likely more of an issue with skype.. not sure if you will get around it in the long run. that code is not open to us either01:27
FritzenduganFritzendugan, either you know how and you're willing to help me, or you don't, or it's not possible, but please stop wasting my time by telling me I'm doing something the wrong way ;)01:27
holsteinFritzendugan: were you directing that to me?01:27
Fritzenduganholstein, skype works exactly how I want it to now that I disabled pulse, so no, skype isn't the issue01:27
Fritzenduganholstein, yeah I was01:27
holsteinFritzendugan: its likely not pulse thats the issue, but maybe the sytem resource overhead01:28
hast-thouwill 12.04 now update to 14.04 automaticatiion with apt-get upgrade -y??01:28
holsteinFritzendugan: you might try lubuntu team. they dont ship pulse.. or some other team that doesnt use pulse01:28
holsteinFritzendugan: i assure you, im not interested in wasting time, or upsetting you..01:28
Fritzenduganholstein, maybe skype doesn't like pulse, that's irrelevant. I don't need pulse, I know it's possible to use only alsa, as I see some dated forum posts about it, but their solutions don't seem to be working right now01:28
willwhpulse is awesome01:29
Fritzenduganholstein, I understand, I'm not trying to be snippy. But I don't want to use pulse, sorry01:29
holsteinFritzendugan: sure.. but, you are using code that expects pulse, and is made for supporting ubuntu01:29
keychainrate my build http://pcpartpicker.com/p/WnfKcf01:29
willwhand skype has no problem with pulse and vice versa01:29
willwhI run 14.04 on 3 x laptops and a desktop (work, home, work, work) haha01:29
willwhand I use skype 60% of my day, in calls01:29
holsteinFritzendugan: you dont have to use *anything*.. but the device may not be able to work without pulse01:29
Fritzenduganholstein, hmmmmm I thought pulse was basically just an abstraction on top of alsa?01:30
keychainhttp://pcpartpicker.com/p/WnfKcf Fritzendugan01:30
holsteinFritzendugan: there *are* devices that just dont work without pulse.. not many, but there are01:30
Fritzendugankeychain, did you mean to send this to someone else?01:31
keychainno check my build pls Fritzendugan01:31
Fritzendugankeychain, uhhhhh I'm good thanks01:31
hast-thouskype on ubunutu kicked my butt01:31
willwhFritzendugan:01:31
willwhwuppppppps01:31
ianorlinmexi_d3: I found out from that you can use keychain ##hardwore is the place for this I think01:31
hast-thouso apt-get upgrade -y on 12 will goto 14?01:31
ianorlingrr forget the first part01:32
willwhhast-thou: apt-get dist-upgrade01:32
willwh?01:32
keychainhardwore?01:32
willwhkeychain: that is an old i701:32
ianorlinhardware01:32
AldeBarandoes anyone know how to scroll up in tinyirc?01:32
willwharen't the 2.x series 2nd gen?01:32
hast-thouahhh01:32
keychaini meant to post this to another channel01:32
hast-thouhow long has 14 been out?01:32
hast-thoudamnit jim01:32
hast-thouIm on old stuff01:32
willwhhast-thou: it' current stable01:32
willwhabout, err, 2 months?01:32
willwhI don't pay too much attention :p01:32
hast-thouoh then not so bad01:33
psusidoes anyone know how to set up mediatomb or another dlna server to serve up videos to a roku or smart tv?01:33
hast-thouleft last gig 2 months gone01:33
Fritzenduganholstein, it looks like alsa recognizes the hdmi device, no? http://pastebin.com/JBJvfyNN01:33
hast-thouprobly came out bit after01:33
willwhpsusi: highly recommend XBMC01:33
psusiwillwh, that isn't a dlna server01:33
willwhoh01:33
willwhdlna?01:33
psusiit's apparently this plug and play network media standard that the roku and smart tvs support for streaming videos01:34
willwhoh01:34
willwhI work in the streaming industry and I don't know about it :E01:34
AldeBaranthank you gents for your help01:34
psusiso far the two servers I have found that implement it are plex, which my cousin uses on windows.. but it's proprietary and you have to pay for it.. and mediatomb, but I can't figure out how to get it to transcode on the fly to an audio format the roku supports01:34
hast-thoujobs on dice for that01:34
hast-thouroku thingy01:35
hast-thousounds liek hellish custom cloud01:35
hast-thouby some what pythoin types?01:35
willwhpsusi: well, the rokus basically support HLS01:35
psusihls?01:35
willwhi.e. apple's http live stream protocol (m3u8)01:35
willwhIf you're dealing with OD content, you really just need to create m3u8 + chunklists01:35
psusihrm.. not heard of it.. is there a free linux server for it?01:35
willwhand you can serve it off a standard web server01:36
willwhpsusi: nginx has an RTMP plugin that supports live-HLS01:36
willwhbut their OD content plugin for on the fly creation is licensed01:36
willwhI'm not really aware of one that does m3u8 generation for OD content on the fly01:36
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psusiinteresting... I thought you had to use dlna to do this... I have it working fine with mediatomb, but the roku doesn't seem to like ac-3 audio... so need to transcode01:37
psusiand I'd rather do that on the fly than transocde my library01:37
willwhwell, AAC is pretty much the defacto01:37
willwhif you're trying to deliver to anything, usually, AAC is your best option01:37
willwhmobile devices support it, most browsers natively decode it, ETC01:37
willwhsame with h264 ;]01:37
psusiwell, the roku forums say it does support aac, and since that seemed to save a lot of disk space, I started transcoding my library, but the stupid roku still plays no sound...01:38
willwhalthough I don't think firefox has native h264 decodes yet01:38
willwhthey rely on something else01:38
psusiand my samsung smart tv plays everything fine, but disconnects after 2-10 minutes01:38
willwhthat seems very strange01:38
psusiif I manually transcode the audio to mp3 though, the roku plays it just fine, but that gives up the surround sound so I'd rather not do that permanantely to my library01:39
willwhindeed01:39
willwhI'm surprised the roku doesn't play your AAC01:39
psusime too01:39
willwhthat is probably encoding config more than anything01:39
willwhthey do definitely support that codec01:39
willwhargh, time to put kidlets to bed01:39
willwhbbl o/01:39
psusijust put mine to bed ;)01:39
willwhfeel free to pm me if you want to continue the discussion :)01:39
willwhI don't think we need to continue it in here, it's hardly on topic ;)01:40
psusiok01:40
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Fritzenduganbtw saw somebody talking about plex, you don't pay for the plex server01:41
Fritzenduganyou can buy a subscription for some additional features, but I'm using the free version and it does all of the streaming and library management stuff, it's pretty nice01:41
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gtanHi! I am having a tough time trying to enable oracle java for chromium browser on ubuntu 14.04 .. is this the right forum for it01:42
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xanguagtan: is this chromium 35¿01:43
gtanxangua: Chromium, chrome and firefox - all of them01:44
gtanxangua: Chromium 34.0.1847.11601:45
gtananyone else - any idea on it?01:47
willwhnope01:50
trismgtan: you can't use java with chromium/chrome anymore, npapi plugins are disabled01:52
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gr33n7007h'F0:1C:13:E4:7F:96'.split(/:/).reverse.map { |b| b.to_i(16) } What would be the equivilent using unpack/pack ?02:11
gr33n7007hoops wrong chan02:11
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norojoin #test02:16
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zaxiuscompiz question: i have desktop cube and rotate cube enabled, but they're not working. do i have to enable multiple desktops or something?02:21
momomomomoI'm wondering how to set up my server to resolv DNS without the use of bind9/resolvconf ; anyone have an idea?02:21
ardan_I have no idea what anyone here is talking about.02:23
xanguazaxius: 4 horizontal desktops I believe02:23
zaxiusxangua: do you know which setting that is?02:24
swagerinoanyone using xchat? I have no idea how to use irc, and I need to get to irc.freenode.com then the channel #archlinux. I have no idea how to change nickname aswell and / msg nickserve register does nothing02:25
xanguaswagerino: you are on freenode02:26
xanguazaxius: you can use compiz settings manager, I don't remember right now just use te default setup02:26
swagerinowhen I use /join #archlinux, it says: " #archlinux :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services" how can I fix this?02:27
gtantrism: thanks, if I may ask, what about firefox?02:27
somsip!register | swagerino02:28
ubottuswagerino: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode02:28
gr33n7007hswagerino, you need to register with freenode /j #freenode02:28
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momomomomoNo takers on my resolvconf uninstall question? :/02:30
armenbis there a way to get more verbosity out of dpkg-reconfigure02:30
armenblike I have no idea WTF it is doing.02:30
armenbmomomomomo: why are you trying to uninstall it?02:30
wilee-nileearmenb, swearing and acronyms of are not allowed here.02:30
armenbwilee-nilee: sorry :-)02:30
wilee-nileeno biggie. ;)02:31
momomomomoarmenb: issues with OVH and docker02:31
armenbwhat kind of issues02:31
momomomomowell, https://github.com/dotcloud/docker/issues/147002:32
momomomomoI've resorted to using public DNS for now as a stop-gap fix02:32
momomomomobut that's so wack i can't even http://www.quickmeme.com/img/7a/7acad4fff3eb46a689e84851cdd001bdd2aab0b8e11dd39b32a8eab12ca86ffd.jpg02:33
armenbmomomomomo: try adding "nameserver 8.8.8.8" to the end of /etc/resolvconf/resolvconf.d/head and then running "resolvconf -u"02:34
armenbawesome quickmeme btw. im taking that02:34
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momomomomoarmenb: ha, it's an oldie but goodie ; that's google public dns, eh?02:37
armenbyes02:37
momomomomoaye, I've got those going now, but I was hoping not to rely on them02:38
momomomomoother ideas armenb ?02:38
armenbso what is the issue...02:38
momomomomothat issue I pasted above; docker containers cannot resolve DNS if loopback is in /etc/resolv.conf02:39
armenbcan you dig +short index.docker.io02:39
momomomomoso there's a few workarounds02:39
momomomomoarmenb: all is well on my metal box02:39
momomomomoit's in the LXC where it fails02:39
armenbif loopback is in /etc/resolv.conf, you need to have a resolver listening on udp port 5302:39
savidJordan_U: If I were to be able to boot with the official ISO, would I be able to load the installer for ubuntu gnome? I'd like to get as clean a gnome installation as possible.02:40
holsteinopenDNS is a nice option02:40
momomomomoarmenb: ideas to a guide?02:40
armenbyou can install dnsmasq for that, for example02:40
armenbdo you need to be running your own DNS?02:40
armenbif you don't, just use google's02:41
momomomomohm fair enough02:42
savidJordan_U: if I were to get the official ISO to boot, would I be able to install the ubuntu-gnome flavor?02:42
holstein!info ubuntu-gnome-desktop02:43
ubottuubuntu-gnome-desktop (source: ubuntu-gnome-meta): The Ubuntu GNOME metapackage. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.32 (trusty), package size 3 kB, installed size 27 kB02:43
nicomachushi02:43
nicomachusanyone here can help installing steam?02:44
holstein!steam02:44
ubottuValve have officially announced that they are developing Steam and are working with !ubuntu during their development, see http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/ for further details, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve for install instructions, you can also join #ubuntu-steam for discussion.02:44
holsteinnicomachus: they have a .deb AFAIK02:44
nicomachusit's in the software center now, but whenever I click the install button it prompts a window to accept or decline something, but it won't load whatever has to be accepted.02:46
nicomachusscreenshot in a sec02:46
holsteinnicomachus: sure.. dont use the software centerll get the .deb from the site, and try02:46
kingbeowolfcan the r9 295x2 run 3 monitors in ubuntu?02:46
holsteinnicomachus: should see the linux link here.. http://store.steampowered.com/about/02:47
nicomachushttp://imgur.com/a/gyLil02:47
holsteinnicomachus: http://media.steampowered.com/client/installer/steam.deb specifically02:47
nicomachusthanks holstein. used the steam store link.02:47
en1gmawhats a good vcard and cpu app similar to 3dmark stuff? i have phronix and to do any of the 3d stuff i need to have the games all installed first it looks like which i do not have. is there an opton in that app to do 3d stuff that it can auto download?02:52
mexi_d3en1gma, Uniengine?02:53
en1gmai did do that one the other day and it ran so bad i got 0 frps on an amd hd 545002:53
en1gmait didnt give me any results02:54
en1gmai just installed a 9600gt...maybe i should run it again02:54
en1gmajust tried and it said the test did not produce a result02:55
mexi_d3en1gma, The words you need for search engine are  'gpu benchmark'02:56
mexi_d3+linux02:56
en1gmak let me try02:56
en1gmawell ubuntu has this stuff dont it?02:56
en1gmain the repo?...ahhh ill check there02:57
puntowhat's a good markdown viewer?02:57
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kingbeowolfcan the r9 295x2 run 3 monitors in ubuntu?03:00
en1gmagpu benchmark dont show anything in the repo03:00
en1gma1 item03:01
en1gmai have 173.14 driver installed. is that the correct driver for the 9600 gt and ubuntu 14.04 amd x6403:02
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zaxiusxangua: found it, thanks03:10
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jango42trying to install tor but cant seem to open the ,tar.xz files ?03:10
holstein!tor | jango4203:11
ubottujango42: Tor is a program to route connections through several servers for anonymity. It is in Ubuntu's repositories, but the Tor Project recommends using their Tor packages due to past issues with Ubuntu's. For setup info, see option (2) of https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en | To use Tor on freenode, see !tor-sasl03:11
jango42thank you holstein03:12
jango42ubottu03:13
Jordan_Usavid: If you can get the normal Ubuntu iso to boot then you can probably get the GNOME or minimal iso to boot, but start with the standard iso. If it boots properly we'll move on from there.03:14
zaxiusi'm dual-booting windows and i want to make windows the default OS to boot, but i can't find /boot/grub/menu.lst. is that setting somewhere else now?03:22
Ben64zaxius: it's /boot/grub/grub.cfg now, but you shouldn't edit that file directly03:23
wilee-nileezaxius, menu.list is grub legacy03:23
zaxiusBen64: what's the preferred method of changing the default OS to boot?03:23
wilee-nileelst*03:23
zaxiusah i think i found it03:25
Ben64zaxius: /etc/default/grub03:25
Ben64then you have to "sudo update-grub" after you edit03:25
zaxiusBen64: yep just found it on the wiki, lol. thanks03:25
zaxiusbut, how can i see which number windows is without rebooting to the grub screen?03:25
Ben64yeah i'm not sure about that... on my laptop though, i have it set up to boot the last booted option03:26
wilee-nileezaxius, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Setup#A.2BAC8-etc.2BAC8-default.2BAC8-grub03:26
Ben64zaxius: check out the one with the checkmark if you wanted that sort of set up ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/148662/how-to-get-grub2-to-remember-last-choice03:27
zaxius    grep menuentry /boot/grub/grub.cfg03:27
zaxiusthanks guys03:27
ezeqli feel display performance somwhat slow, ati 5770, and using prop drivers on 14.0403:28
somsip!info php5-memcached03:31
ubottuphp5-memcached (source: php-memcached): memcached extension module for PHP5, uses libmemcached. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.0-6build1 (trusty), package size 38 kB, installed size 178 kB03:31
savidJordan_U: Looks like I get the same problem with the official install as well. I think my problem may have something to do with the way I originally installed linux on my macbook.03:32
lepineDoes anyone use the Ubuntu AWS AMIs with user-data scripts? I can't seem to get a script running on first-boot03:35
lepineI'm running the AMI's directly, not a derived AMI.03:35
lepineMy scripts do start with #!03:35
lepineI see the user-data script in /var/lib/cloud/instances/iXYZ/user-data.txt*03:36
lepineI can't see any of the scripts effects. /var/log/cloud-init.log and /var/log/cloud-init-output.log make no mention of my user-data scripts runnin (cloud-init.log does mention copying them from the instance meta data)03:37
lepinecloud-init.log makes no mention of any obvious errors03:37
lepineWhat could I be missing here?03:37
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willwh#! what03:41
willwhand does it exist?03:41
willwhlike what are you running? bash script?03:41
Guest23469Hi03:42
maximus2hi there!!!!03:42
Guest23469anyone can help me with an issue in my ubuntu 14.04 ???  my synaptic consume 100% CPU usage03:42
wilee-nileeGuest23469, Even when closed?03:43
Guest23469not ..... when it started or it find something03:43
wilee-nileeGuest23469, How have you confirmed this, preface the person you address using their nick, and use understandable sentences please03:44
Guest23469my synaptic was normal until now .....03:45
wilee-nileeGuest23469, How have you confirmed synaptic is using 100% of the cpu?03:46
Guest23469with top command03:46
Guest23469order by %CPU03:46
wilee-nileeGuest23469, I'm noticing here that when opened for about 5 seconds it does draw a lot but settles down. Is your issue constant?03:48
ihitdisplayI can't resize my extended partition, what's happening?03:48
Guest23469before i add a external repository .... for to test an tumblr desktop client03:48
wilee-nileeGuest23469, Turn that repo off in the software sources and try opening it again.03:49
Guest23469after i remove this program and  remove thi deb entry in my source list03:50
Guest23469and reload with apt-get update03:50
wilee-nileeihitdisplay, Are you using any partition inside the extended during this?03:50
wilee-nileeGuest23469, I'm not able to understand you enough to help, so others might.03:51
Guest23469the apt-get is totally normal and fast to remove, update and install03:51
ihitdisplaymy extended partition is /dev/sda2 inside which there's /dev/sda503:51
wilee-nileeihitdisplay, Can you take a screen shot of gparted showing the HD, and put it on an image site?03:52
ihitdisplaywilee-nilee, ok03:52
axisyswhat's equivalent to this command to check only the installed pkgs03:52
axisysapt-cache rdepends libgnutls26 | grep -v lib03:52
ihitdisplaywilee-nilee, http://imgur.com/8mhDQ1j03:53
maekIm using upstart to run a "start.sh" script but im having a really hard time getting an env var passed into the script. Ive tried using the env FOO=bar and su -c "FOO=bar start.sh" but none of it is working. anyone have any ideas?03:54
AysenhornHi 2 all03:56
wilee-nileeihitdisplay, THe extended has no where to go, sda5 fills it and sda1 is up against it. I can't say what is best in resizing a luks though, be sure you know what your doing, and you have to be using a live cd and all partitions unmounted.03:56
ihitdisplaywilee-nilee, it's saying there's no support for luks04:01
ihitdisplaywilee-nilee, does that mean sda5 is not rightly cryptographed?04:01
wilee-nileeihitdisplay, I know nothing about luks, or why people even bother to be honest. In have answered you why the extended is not movable at this time, my work is done. ;)04:02
wilee-nileeihitdisplay, Had you mentioned luks, we would have never had a conversation.04:03
ihitdisplaywilee-nilee, ok thank you04:06
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BinaryMcAwesomeDownloaded the 14.04 LTS. Excited to test it on a VM!04:11
cyford  is there a reason i can not install netfix-desktop anymore ?04:11
wilee-nileecyford, Technically not supported here as a ppa is used, however if you can detail the issue you may get help.04:13
pwd1234Hi, I am facing a problem where my wireless suddenly stopped working.04:14
creycwhat is the name of the gui installer that pops up after running the ubuntu alt/minimal installer?04:15
creyc'select' something?04:15
pwd1234I have a dual boot laptop, so when I checked the Windows OS, the WiFi worked fine.  Any idea why it's suddenly stopped working?04:16
pwd1234lshw -C network doesn't give any result04:16
pwd1234Neither does lsmod, etc.04:16
Ranieri_Hey guys04:17
pwd1234?04:17
cyfordi get However the following packages replace it:04:20
cyford  wine-browser-installer04:20
cyfordWhen i install this  nothing happens  still no netflix04:21
pwd1234Any idea why WiFi isn't working suddenly?04:22
cyfordpwd1234,   do you have dns manually configuired  or set to auto dhcp?04:26
pwd1234cyford, it's auto dhcp04:26
cyfordare you able to ping the gateway? pwd123404:27
pwd1234There is no network itself present04:29
creycfound it: it's tasksel04:29
pwd1234cyford, it says No network devices available04:29
gr33n7007hpwd1234, check "rfkill list" in terminal is any device blocked04:30
pwd1234"rfkill list" returns nothing, so obviously nothing has been blocked, right?04:30
gr33n7007hpwd1234, it should return devices blocked or not try with sudo04:31
pwd1234Even with sudo, nothing04:32
pwd1234I am using Ubuntu 14.0404:32
gr33n7007hpwd1234, is your wireless card up?04:33
triplchi all04:33
pwd1234The wireless card is up, because if I boot in Windows right now, the WiFi works fine04:33
pwd1234There is no external switch present in my laptop (Lenovo Yoga 13)04:34
triplchow to disable CoW (copy on write) for a file/directory on a btrfs filesystem? i am using 12.0404:34
cyfordgo to system settings network an make sure its turned on04:34
gr33n7007hpwd1234, what devices are there when you issue "ifconfig -a" in terminal04:34
triplchow to disable CoW (copy on write) for a file/directory on a btrfs filesystem? i am using 12.04. i googled and tried 'chattr +C ...' but it does not work04:34
minamhow are you?04:35
pwd1234gr33n7007h, "ifconfig -a" gives only: lo Link encap:Local Loopback04:35
pwd1234No eth0, etc.04:35
wilee-nilee!ot | minam04:35
ubottuminam: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!04:35
wilee-nileeminam, Soory I read that as how old are you my apology. ;)04:36
gr33n7007hpwd1234, So it's not detecting your wireless card04:36
minam39  age..^^04:36
pwd1234cyford, only Enable Networking is present and that is checked, no Enable Wireless at all04:36
pwd1234Yes gr33n7007h04:36
gr33n7007hpwd1234, lspci | grep Wireless04:37
pwd1234Nothing for the lspci command also04:37
gr33n7007hpwd1234, what?04:37
gr33n7007hpwd1234, Is internal wireless04:38
pwd1234lspci  | grep Wireless returns no result04:38
gr33n7007hpwd1234, Is it internal wireless card?04:39
gr33n7007hor usb04:39
pwd1234It's internal04:40
pwd1234gr33n7007h, it's an internal wireless card04:41
cyfordwhat laptop you have pwd123404:43
pwd1234cyford, it's a Lenovo Yoga 1304:43
cyfordpwd1234, https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/4/1/28004:45
cyfordhttps://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/Yoga-13-What-to-do-when-you-install-UBUNTU/td-p/124621104:45
pwd1234cyford, you think the Realtek driver was deleted/purged from my system for some reason?04:46
gr33n7007hwas just to about to post the former link04:46
cyfordi dont think this driver is included in the linux by defualt pwd123404:48
pwd1234cyford, the WiFi was working fine in Ubuntu till last evening, a few hours after I got home it stopped working04:48
pwd1234But I'll try installing this driver and get back to you in 5 minutes04:49
raju2925hey, anybody knows about where can i download ubuntu mobile for  my xperia neo v04:51
raju2925guys ??04:53
pwd1234Wow!  It worked now!04:56
somsip!touch | raju292504:56
ubotturaju2925: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch04:56
pwd1234Thanks cyford, gr33n7007h!04:56
pwd1234Any idea why the driver could have stopped working suddenly?04:56
gr33n7007hpwd1234, how you fix it?04:57
lotuspsychjemorning to all04:57
pwd1234I downloaded the realtek driver and compiled and installed it in my laptop04:57
pwd1234I did a reboot and the WiFi was working again04:57
raju2925ubottu:thanks,04:57
gr33n7007hpwd1234, cool, hope it stays working now :)04:58
pwd1234Ya, hopefully04:58
pwd1234But I am curious why it stopped working in the first place though.  I know I didn't uninstall this driver on my own, for sure04:58
pwd1234Anyway, thanks people05:01
cyford:)  no problem ,  think i fixed my issue too :)  Netflix Time05:02
bradhello05:03
bradwhat's the "official" way to change hostname?05:03
lotuspsychje!hostname | brad05:03
ubottubrad: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hosts to include BOTH the old and new hostname and then change /etc/hostname to the new one. WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly.05:03
bradI've tried everything I can think of, but it changes back after reboot05:04
cyfordadd it to the host file05:05
bradI put "127.0.0.1 localhost newhostnametest" in /etc/hosts but it still isn't persistent05:06
blaz0r_brad: cat /etc/hostname - whats the output?05:06
Ben64brad: thats not the right way to have /etc/hosts05:07
bradoutput is currently the old hostname, as I rebooted again to check05:07
bradeep, think I found the issue. typo in a script. I will fix the hosts file too. thank you all.05:09
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Nimicitoruljust installed ubuntu, have no sound.05:14
jotaxpeTengo un problema, no se como mi icono de la carpeta "Escrtorio" se agrandó, resulta que cambie los iconos manualmente, ya que así lo habia echo anteriormente y solo los cambio parcialmente, cuando pongo en algun programa "abrir archivo" me aparece la ventana con un logo gigante del escritorio lo cual me molesta, y cuando pongo "guardar imagen como" en un navegador, sucede lo mismo, alguien tiene idea de como solucionar este problema?, utilizo ubuntu 105:15
jotaxpe2.04. gracias05:15
hellotesthola05:15
hellotestque tal?05:15
Nimicitorulchicos aqui no se hablas espaniol :P05:15
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NokiabotUbuntu is battery hungry05:16
six86Hello. I am preseeding mysql-server during ubuntu 12.04 setup and thats working fine. But when i also want to preseed rsyslog-mysql it fails with "ERROR 2002: can't connect...". When is the preseeded myql server started for the first time? Is there a way to preseed things that depend on a running mysql server?05:16
NimicitorulNokiabot:  try puppulinux05:16
Nimicitorulpuppylinux05:16
NokiabotPuppy linux same05:17
NokiabotMain problem is overheating of my netbook on linux05:18
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oomsysmy ubuntu software center is not opening after installing opencv..how to resolve it05:25
wilee-nileeoomsys, Did the install finish with no problems and do you see any errors?05:26
wilee-nileeon the software cetre issue05:26
wilee-nileeoomsys, You might run sudo apt-get -f install to see if any installs need to be finished05:28
oomsysNO...uninstall & install process also complete05:28
athanHello friends! Could someone tell me where `mount`'s logfile is?05:28
wilee-nileeoomsys, Be sure to preface answers to others with their nick, as well you mention no uninstall, be exacting in your posts.05:30
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antonio_I just got an epson small-in-one xp-310...trying to find drivers for it...05:34
athanwell now... I'm having some fun. `mount` tells me that the mount failed and to check the log, but NOTHING is to be found! It is a glusterfs volume I'm trying to mount, so I'm not sure if that has anything to do with it (online mentions blocked ports, postponing that til later), it would be nice if it actually logged, though. Where else might it be?05:34
pavlosathan, dmesg should tell you05:34
athanpavlos: Nothing, I tell ya!05:34
ki7mtgrep -e mount -e ext4 -lR /var/log 2> /dev/null05:35
athanI'll even record my desktop as proof haha05:35
athanyes, yes, I did that05:35
athanthat only lists the files involved, etc. etc.. I couldn't find snot.05:35
wilee-nileeantonio_, The printers gui does not find any?05:35
ki7mtIndeed, then grep the files.05:35
athanmost just reffered to apt/dpkg05:35
athan:/05:36
athanconcatMap?05:36
ki7mtI dont know of a logfile for mount per say.05:36
bitcoinassassinI've a 12.04lts install with encrypted home folder; the install will not boot - am not sure why. but what to mount the drive on another computer via usb and then recover information on the encrypted partition. I realize this is a process; just looking for a link to a good "how to". thanks05:36
bitcoinassassin*want05:36
antonio_wilee-nilee: its finding drivers for the workforce xp-310..not the small-in-one xp-31005:36
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athanbitcoinassassin: Have you thought of a tomb?05:36
bitcoinassassinwilee-nilee and yes I'm still looking?05:36
bitcoinassassinathan, yes, I have05:36
bitcoinassassinand a bonfire05:37
wilee-nileeantonio_, Have you seen if those, I have had a similar thing happen, in that two drivers were found for almost same models, the one that should not work did05:37
wilee-nileework*05:38
ki7mtbitcoinassassin, May be useful: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/en/man1/ecryptfs-recover-private.1.html05:39
pavlosathan, the auth.log file has some info05:40
ki7mtbitcoinassassin, the ref is outdated though, here's the post for 12.04, using a LiveCD: http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2011/04/introducing-ecryptfs-recover-private.html05:41
athanpavlos: Hmm... I'm just seeing a bunch of pam datemon stuff, I'm going to test again to make sure. Thank you for your help :)05:42
athanahhhhh05:43
athanpavlos: I think you found it, thank you for your help, I do sincerely appreciate it. Maybe in the future we could have, like, parametric... detail... in responses / information...? O.o05:44
bitcoinassassinki7mt...... thanks. i've tried various similar things and gotten nowhere05:44
bitcoinassassindesperately searching for my backup of this data.. it was a travel laptop but I back up everything05:45
bitcoinassassinanyway thank you.05:45
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gtuckerkelloggso i've recently been getting a "System progam problem detected/ Do you want to report the problem now?"05:48
gtuckerkelloggI guess I'd really like to know what the problem is, but that doesn't seem to be an option in the widget05:49
gtuckerkelloggand i'm not seeing any new files in /var/crash05:49
bseekinsHello everybody05:56
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six86Hello. I am preseeding mysql-server during ubuntu 12.04 setup and thats working fine. But when i also want to preseed rsyslog-mysql it fails with "ERROR 2002: can't connect...". When is the preseeded myql server started for the first time? Is there a way to preseed things that depend on a running mysql server?06:02
francisquaresix86, try use 127.0.0.1 as your db host06:07
six86francisquare: How would i preseed this06:08
ki7mthttp://www.rndguy.ca/2010/02/24/fully-automated-ubuntu-server-setups-using-preseed/06:09
nectarysdoes someone know how to reproduce this tmux theme please : http://i.stack.imgur.com/8hmKu.png ?06:09
francisquaresix86, are you trying to connect to mysql?06:09
lotuspsychje!themes | nectarys06:10
ubottunectarys: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freecode.com/tags/theme - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy06:10
six86francisquare:  like i said, I'm preseeding an installation and apparently the mysql server is not startet but only installed during installation06:10
lotuspsychjenectarys: maybe look into deviantart for relevant stuff?06:10
lotuspsychjenectarys: that looks bit like syntax highlight colors06:11
francisquaresix86, please ignore my suggestion06:11
nectaryslotuspsychje, but how to make that ?06:11
ki7mtsix86, Canonical has a nice white paper on preseeding as well, I just can't find the link at the moment.06:13
ki7mtsix86, Found it: http://www.ubuntu.com/sites/default/files/active/White%20Paper%20Automated%20Deployments%20v1.pdf06:14
lotuspsychjenectarys: http://ethanschoonover.com/solarized06:14
six86ki7mt: I basically have no problem with preseeding. My installer runs fine. But there seems to be a problem when I want to preseed rsyslog-mysql too, because mysql is not started during installation i assume06:14
aeon-ltdnectarys:06:15
nectaryslotuspsychje, but it's not the same color scheme, no ?06:15
aeon-ltdnectarys: if it's not you need that user's terminal colors if they're custom06:15
Ademandoes anyone know how to find out what journaling mode an ext3 partition is operating in?06:16
ki7mtsix86, Yes, understand, both the links talk about setting the pw for mysql in preseeding.06:16
ki7mtsix86, more times than not, access denined on mysql is either it's not running, or un or pw is incorrect.06:17
six86ki7mt: its definetly not running06:18
ki7mtsix86, Then I'd be looking at the un / pw and adding the pw to the ks file06:20
oomsys_my software centre not opening..how to resolve06:21
six86ki7mt: The problem does appear when the installer tries to install the preseedet rsyslog-mysql right after the mysql installation. There is an error message displayed that it can't connect to mysql. When i chose ignore and then reboot i can connect to mysql just fine06:22
six86ki7mt: so the initial question was: is the mysql server started right after installation during setup?06:23
six86And if not, how can i preseed rsyslog-mysql to ignore ALL warnings and just install. I already have around 20 rsyslog-mysql preseed lines, but the message still appears...06:24
ki7mtsix86, I dont know for certain, but that sequence suggests it's started after.06:28
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OrpheonHello, I've just done a fresh install of Ubuntu 14.04 64-bit, and I'm having problems with the desktop. Right-clicking on it doesn't work at all, and occasionally doing so triggers everything graphical to not respond. A "top" in one of the vitual terminals then shows ibus daemon using up vast amounts of CPU, but nothing shows up on the internet about that. Any ideas what could be at fault, or how to diagnose/fix this?06:33
OrpheonAnyone?06:36
planetmakerOrpheon, some patience :) (No, I don't either, but the morning just started)06:37
TimvdeHi. I'm using gnome-flashback on Ubuntu 14.04. My clock disappeared from the indicator applet. Restarting does not fix it. Does anyone have another idea?06:38
TimvdeI also tried reinstalling indicator-datetime and reconfigure it with dpkg-reconfigure --frontend noninteractive tzdata06:39
TimvdeHmm, I didn't reboot after the last command (I did restart gnome-panel)06:40
TimvdeMaybe I should try that first06:40
ahmadguys, I need help please.06:47
cfhowlett!details|ahmad06:48
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e^is there any advantage in using a proprietary driver for the amd radeon 7670m?06:48
Orpheon!pastebin06:48
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ahmadI have a problem with the flash plugin in Firefox.. it makes my laptop overheat. any idea how to fix that?06:49
xanguaahmad: avoid flash is the fast answer06:50
planetmakertwo ways: proper cooling for your PC and / or don't use flash06:50
ahmadwhat should I do then?06:50
ahmaduninstal flash?06:50
Orpheonthere's always html5 etc, or maybe a graphical driver06:51
e^does it make the laptop overheat even if it's not using it?06:51
e^(cuz i have it installed too)06:51
ahmadwhenever I play a youtube video, it makes it overheat.06:51
ahmadthe fans go crazy.06:51
ahmadI figured it must be the flash.06:51
e^oh ok.06:51
planetmakerflash generally is a ressource hog and easily oocupies a full cpu core. If that overheats your cpu, then its cooling is clearly insufficient06:52
planetmakerjust a fast-spinning fan is not bad, though. Just an indicator of cpu being used06:52
planetmakerflash simply is really badly programmed06:52
ahmadI know06:53
ahmadis there any alternative?06:53
ki7mtGnash, lightspark, html06:53
makarahi. Anyone tried updating Lenovo BIOS lately?06:53
makarai can only find for Windows06:53
bseekinsHello everybody06:54
bseekinsI just installed Ubuntu I'm new to linux06:54
cfhowlett!details|bseekins06:54
ubottubseekins: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)06:54
ki7mtahmad, here's one from a quick search: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/video-without-flash/06:55
NikuyaI'm having trouble with suspend. when I command the computer to suspend in the terminal the computer takes me to the login screen.06:55
Nikuyaalso, when I close my laptop it suspends properly but it will not wake up from suspend and I have to reboot06:55
helmut_hi06:57
e^Nikuya: you have to press a button to get it to wake up.06:58
Nikuyahaha. I tried that06:58
e^ok, cuz you know moving the mouse doesn't work.06:59
e^is there any advantage in using a proprietary driver for the amd radeon 7670m?06:59
e^might installing the driver mess things up?07:00
ki7mte^,  That is always as possibility they cant be tested by Ubuntu07:00
ki7mtor updated for bugs or whatever07:01
e^ki7mt: ok, thanks.07:02
wilee-nileeNikuya, This may help. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UnderstandingSuspend07:02
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miikkajohi, after upgrade to 14.04 i'm getting snmp warnings "Shared Memory" usage 100%, did 14.04 change something regarding of /dev/shm usage ?07:03
k-josephhi guys, am trying to give read and write rights to a folder to a user and am failing, location is ~./folder/subFolder/realFolder, i run something like sudo 777 ~./folder/subFolder/realFolder and did not work, any help!!!07:04
k-josephdkessel: 777 = 75507:04
ki7mtNikuya, also see Ubuntu help, or yelp, why wont my computer turn back on after suspend07:04
gargsmsI have been running into a strange error. I installed Ubuntu 14.04 earlier and installed latest fglrx drivers and it worked fine, but now I do the same it doesn't. It just sticks past the login screen.07:05
bazhang!chown | k-joseph07:05
ubottuk-joseph: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions07:05
k-josephsudo 755 ~/.folder/subFolder/realFolder07:05
k-josephubottu: i know what they are, and how to add them, but when i run it does not add them07:06
ubottuk-joseph: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)07:06
k-josephbazhang: sorry, i meant to you07:06
bazhangk-joseph, you need to pastebin the full command07:07
bazhangk-joseph, sudo 755 is not a command07:07
ki7mtk-joseph, add a group, then add the users to the group, then chown -R user:user ~/<path-to-folder>07:07
k-josephbazhang: sorry, even sudo chmod 755 ~/.folder/subFolder/realFolder07:07
k-josephki7mt: i tried that yesturday and failed still07:07
ki7mtactually, should have said change ownership to the group, but anyway .. thats odd then.07:09
k-josephki7mt: am already owning the folder, i used this chown -R k-joseph:k-joseph ~/.OpenMRS/solr/conf/07:09
ki7mtk-joseph, you can't access the folder, or another user can't access the folder?07:10
gargsmsAnyone?07:10
gargsmsI have been running into a strange error. I installed Ubuntu 14.04 earlier and installed latest fglrx drivers and it worked fine, but now I do the same it doesn't. It just sticks past the login screen.07:10
k-josephki7mt: how can i make it accessible to any user?07:11
k-josephdkessel: i can access it in the ui07:11
duncannzhow does gpg identify me as opposed to someone who created a gpg key with my name?07:11
ki7mtk-joseph, use samba, and share it.07:11
ki7mtduncannz, hopefully with a passphrase07:12
duncannzki7mt: yeah i have a passphrase. but i don't share the passphrase with the person im sending the signed message to?07:13
ki7mtduncannz, exactly you dont share you passphrase .. only use should ahve that, and the private half of the key pair.07:14
duncannzki7mt: yeah. so couldn't someone else just make a gpg key with my name? and sign a message with it07:14
ki7mtNo, the key pair wont match07:15
ki7mtUnless they snagged your private key and passphrase somehow.07:15
ki7mtIn that cast, you need to de-activate it, whihc you should create a deactivate key when you generate a key pair.07:16
ki7mt .. case ..07:16
duncannzki7mt: sorry i don't understand. the process i did was 1) create key under my name, 2) sign a message. couldn't anyone do the same, and choose some other passphrase for their private key? which doesn't matter because the signature will still validate, but through their key instead of mine07:16
arlenthat's why you publish your public key07:17
annaxhello can anyone help me with camera issue ?07:17
arlenideally you publish your key fingerprint on something only you have access like your personal site or blog, so when someone gets a signed message they can verify07:18
duncannzarlen: ah i see now. but i did this command -->  gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --send-keys $MYKEYID07:19
duncannzso couldn't anyone do that process of 1) create keypair under my name, 2) publish public key, 3) sign a message07:19
arlenyes07:19
annaxhello can anyone help me with camera issue ?07:20
duncannzso those instructions were bad?07:20
arlennope07:20
ki7mtduncannz, this may help: https://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual/x56.html07:20
arlenthey were correct, but then you also put your key fingerprint on your site, or twitter profile etc, so people can tell your key from the fakes07:20
lotuspsychje!details | annax07:21
ubottuannax: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)07:21
ki7mtduncannz, and here'a full how too: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-use-gpg-to-encrypt-and-sign-messages-on-an-ubuntu-12-04-vps07:21
duncannzthanks ki7mt i will read through those07:21
ki7mtIt's for a server, but the concept is the same.07:22
annaxjust does not work :) only sound but nothing else i am new on linux07:22
Nothing_MuchWhy does my PC restart when radeon.dpm=0 isn't in grub?07:22
bazhangannax, sound? on your camera?07:22
arlenduncannz: as an example I have mine at https://arlen.io/key so if someone gets a signed message from me, they can verify the fingerprint07:22
annaxweb cam07:22
david_iiuij07:22
annaxfor skype07:22
duncannzarlen: exactly. that makes sense to me.07:22
annaxconnected with usb07:22
duncannzbecause only you can push a key to that site07:22
arlenyup07:23
ki7mtduncannz, do yourself a favor, if you intend to publish a key, create a revocation certificate for the key.07:23
duncannzbut anyone can push a key to keyserver.mit.edu so ..07:23
lotuspsychjeannax: did you enable video icon from skype when calling someone?07:23
duncannzpgp.mit.edu*07:23
ki7mtThe save it and your private key in a safe place.07:23
ki7mtthen .. .07:23
Nothing_MuchWhy does my PC restart when radeon.dpm=0 isn't in grub? I'm using an AMD APU and I reported a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/132516507:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1325165 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu) "DPM support is broken in radeon APUs with HD 8000 radeon chips" [Undecided,New]07:23
annaxyes07:23
lotuspsychjeannax: you can look in skype options if your webcam works, can you check?07:23
annaxdevice not found :(07:24
arlenduncannz: right, keyservers like that are just an easy way to store your public key for others to get. they don't verify anyone07:24
ki7mtduncannz, yes, anyone can, but not anyone has your private key and passphrase.07:24
lotuspsychjeannax: can you lsusb from terminal to see if your webcam shows?07:26
annaxBus 002 Device 007: ID 0fce:018c Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications AB07:27
annaxBus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub07:27
annaxBus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub07:27
annaxBus 003 Device 004: ID 0ac8:301b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. ZC0301 Webcam07:27
annaxBus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub07:27
annaxBus 001 Device 012: ID 046d:c018 Logitech, Inc. Optical Wheel Mouse07:27
unopasteannax you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted07:27
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annaxhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7585648/07:28
annaxam i unmuted already?07:29
lotuspsychjeannax: wich ubuntu version you have?07:29
annaxkali linux07:29
duncannzsigh07:29
lotuspsychjeannax: kali is not supported here sorry07:29
lotuspsychje!kali | annax07:30
annaxyes but that is the only linux that works on my old computer i did try many of them but always i had problem  so that is the only one that works and is still linux07:31
bazhangannax, so go to their support channel07:31
lotuspsychjeannax: you can try lubuntu 14.04 if you like for an old computer07:31
annaxhow to do it?07:31
ki7mtI doubt that it's the only one, but nonetheless, it's not supported here.07:31
annaxi did that to but there grafic not work07:32
annaxhow to go to them ?07:32
bazhang kali-linux (#kali-linux)  <<<----- annax07:33
ki7mtI tried to type that, ended up in the room :-)07:34
lotuspsychjeannax: if you can run kali, you should be able to run xubuntu or lubuntu aswell07:36
lotuspsychjeannax: you will have better drivers support for webcam07:36
ki7mtI would think so, it's based on Debian if I recall.07:37
annaxit looks like no one will to help there !! please guys help me07:37
lotuspsychjeannax: as we said above, we cant help you on kali..07:38
lotuspsychjeannax: install a version from topic, or xubuntu - lubuntu07:38
bazhangit's offtopic here annax , please stop asking for support07:38
ki7mtAlso, form there site:  --> Kali is a Linux distribution specifically geared towards professional penetration testing and security auditing <<--  Old hardware probably not a good choice.07:38
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ki7mtduncannz, did you get the answers you needed about keys ?07:39
duncannzki7mt: yep i think that clarified it thanks07:40
ki7mtkk07:40
killerhey , where can i see the most downloaded apps in software center for  a particular month both paid and  free07:43
ki7mtduncannz, there's lots of how-to's out ther, but 3 things will keep straight, kepp you private key and passphase safe, and create a revocation certificate, they rest is pretty easy.07:44
duncannzki7mt: yep. what was confusing me mainly was the open keyserver (mit). but now i realise that is not meant to be a way to securely identify that the key matches the real life identity it all makes more sense07:45
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ki7mtduncannz, any can create a ky, but only your priate key says that it's really you signing something.07:47
duncannzyep07:47
ki7mtUnless it gets jacked07:47
ki7mtthen you just revoke it.07:48
ki7mtkiller, It's in Ubuntu Developer somewhere, or at least it used to be.07:49
Guest16245hello, can anyone please help me? I cannot install any linux from my usb, ive tried many different iso's , Unetbootin, LiLi programs. The problem is : Black screen when it loads to the first initial install. I tried -nomodeset (on linux mint) and then i got a grey screen. On ubuntu i just recieve a black screen and my reset button will not work. My pc Specs are +Windows 7, Intel i7 3770k, R9280x Sapphire Vapor , 8gb DDR3, Asrock h77 pro 4 MVP07:49
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zzakc hello, can anyone please help me? I cannot install any linux from my usb, ive tried many different iso's , Unetbootin, LiLi programs. The problem is : Black screen when it loads to the first initial install. I tried -nomodeset (on linux mint) and then i got a grey screen. On ubuntu i just recieve a black screen and my reset button will not work. My pc Specs are +Windows 7, Intel i7 3770k, R9280x Sapphire Vapor , 8gb DDR3, Asrock h77 pro 4 MVP07:53
wilee-nileezzakc, Do a text install with the mini.07:53
wilee-nilee!mini | zzakc07:53
ubottuzzakc: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD07:53
zzakcsorry ito be stupid, but what is  mini.07:54
wilee-nilee^^^^07:54
zzakcahh07:54
zzakccan i do this to usb? its all i have07:54
Trozzyou would need internet during install07:54
wilee-nileezzakc, Yep, a tiny download it pulls the install from the net.07:54
zzakci have internet its just my screen always goes black as soon as the installer loads but i will try the minimal cd image now07:54
zzakcthank you wilee-nilee07:55
wilee-nileezzakc, No problem, sounds like you do get a gui, so should be able to replicate in the install.07:56
zzakci hope so, i was thinking it could help if i enable my onboard and disable the sapphire pci card , but07:57
zzakcim terrified that if i enable onboard as primary in bios, i will lose my screen completely07:57
zzakcbecause at the moment, if i plug my dvi into the onboard, there is no signal, even after reset , no bios07:57
ki7mtNo need to be terrified, if all else fails, and your really stuck, reset the bios.07:58
ki7mtMay nee dot pull the batt, but should be able to get back to OEM settings.07:59
Trozzcommonly  the machine would attempt to use the additional card over the onboard, if you still cannot get a display (correctly) give it a try and if it doesn't display disconnect the pci card (would force it to use onboard)07:59
ki7mtneed07:59
Trozza bios reset shouldn't be needed...07:59
zzakcok trozz07:59
zzakcits a big ass card lol08:00
Trozzyeah its likely like my GTX it takes most of the bloody case ¬_¬08:00
k-josephdkayiwa: hi08:00
zzakclol08:00
zzakcok thanks i will give it a go maybe i will be back on the channel with ubuntu!08:01
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leeyaahelo08:02
leeyaahello*08:02
leeyaaps -ef | wc -l shows i have 700 processes, how to find out what are they? htop shows 500 and i do know php-fpm is taking about 30008:02
ki7mtpstree is one way, but with that many running, gonna be a long list.08:05
leeyaaki7mt: well it also shows about 500 like htoop08:07
leeyaahtop*08:07
ki7mtdump it to a file pstree >> process.txt08:07
ki7mtthen look at it with an editor08:07
Guest75072ciao08:07
Guest75072!list08:07
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lotuspsychjeleeyaa: what exactly are you searching for in processes?08:08
leeyaalotuspsychje: i want to know why my monitoring shows same output as ps and what exactly is happening08:08
NokiabotWhy my netbook heats up on linux -ideapad s10 208:08
ki7mtwhat's generateing 700 of them08:08
leeyaaki7mt: here is pstree http://bpaste.net/show/340058/08:08
lotuspsychjeleeyaa: nmap -sV yourself can also be handy to determine some services08:09
ki7mtWell there's 356*[php-fpm] that's allot08:09
leeyaathats normal for my workflow08:09
leeyaawhere are the other 40008:10
fishorhello all, i just updated my ubuntu 14.04 and todays update killed unity or compiz. Right now i have no more working window manager. Can some body help me please :)08:12
leeyaaew compiz ;p08:12
fishorleeyaa, not funny :D08:12
felmoltorh08:12
ki7mtleeyaa, well 50*[{mysqld}] but all the rest dont look to ads up to 400 that's for sure.08:12
leeyaaki7mt: yeag08:13
ki7mtMaybe 150 or so, .. so there's about 250 or so that's MIA there08:13
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Trozzfishor: what does lightdm say when you attempt to start it?08:14
leeyaai guess i just need to change the way im monitoring them ki7mt08:14
leeyaabut ps also shows 70008:14
ki7mtYeah, but what are they .. thats the tricky be so it would seem.08:14
leeyaaki7mt: thats what i would like to find out08:15
wilee-nileefishor, Any back info leading to this?08:15
fishorTrozz, hard to say. If i'll restart lightdm it will kill my IRC session08:15
fishorwilee-nilee, moment08:15
Trozzfishor: fire up Irssi in another tty?08:15
fishorright now i tried to "unity --replace"08:16
wilee-nileefishor, That is an old command what release is this?08:17
ki7mtleeyaa, well ps aux will list them all but it's messy08:17
fishorubuntu 14.0408:17
Trozzanything showing in /var/log/lightdm?08:18
wilee-nileefishor, you have to reboot to get the full deal. http://www.itworld.com/software/416001/reset-unity-desktop-ubuntu-140408:18
ki7mtleeyaa, pstree and htop eaisiest to see but if they not listing them all something is amiss08:18
wilee-nileemaybe a stop lightdm in a tty would work, I would just reboot08:18
ki7mtleeyaa, Im assuming the is a web-server running nginx && php yes?08:19
leeyaaki7mt: correct08:19
fishorwilee-nilee, i reboot many times08:19
leeyaaand some other services as well, machine is pretty big08:19
wilee-nileefishor, After running the commands in that link.08:20
wilee-nileefishor, compiz is the wm and unity is a plugin in compiz, are you aware of this?08:20
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fishorwilee-nilee, no... but i'll run now  command form your link08:21
MannerManSo I have 12.04 machine with lots of PPA's that I want to upgrade to 14.04, all PPA's have trusty support but what is the correct way to upgrade them? Regular upgrade just disables all..08:21
zzakcHi, I tried the mini install, it got a lot further than the others(I could see an installation menu, chose time and date, etc) but it froze at detecting hardware and devices 0%08:22
susundbergMannerMan: you need to update your full system to 14.04, you cannot generally mix different versions08:22
ki7mtleeyaa, are there mutiple users accessing the box that could be running jobs?08:22
wilee-nileeMannerMan, Yes you want them disabled, you would turn them on once upgraded, just hope the upgrades works, ppa's add packages can be an issue on occasion.08:23
susundbergzzakc: with some weird platform i guess. Try hitting ctrl+alt+f1 or f2 to get console access08:23
wilee-nileeadded*08:23
leeyaaki7mt: yes, each php-fpm pool runs in different user08:23
fishorwilee-nilee, tried  no changes.  right now i see that i can move windows but, i can't resize them and there is not window decoration08:23
ki7mtleeyaa, any MPI type job >08:23
leeyaais run by*08:23
leeyaaoh god grammar08:23
leeyaaki7mt: whats mpi ?08:23
wilee-nileefishor, Have you messed with compiz?08:23
ki7mtThat's a no then :-)08:23
leeyaa;p08:24
MannerManwilee-nilee: hm okey.. thanks then08:24
zzakcsusundberg: i am new, what do i do once i am in console to fix the detecting hardware?08:24
fishorwilee-nilee, no. just default unitiy configuration08:24
wilee-nileeMannerMan, YOU can purge ppa's if needed.08:24
wilee-nilee!ppa-purge | MannerMan08:24
ubottuMannerMan: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html08:24
leeyaaki7mt: ill just go ask zabbix guys how does its default template count number of processes so i know what is happening08:25
wilee-nileefishor, Did you ever have a working unity desktop?08:25
susundbergzzakc: i suggest not to continue if the installation fails and you are fresh on ubuntu, not without some proper support. It might be rocky path08:25
susundbergzzakc: on what platform/hardware are you trying to install ?08:25
MannerManwilee-nilee: Yeah, I know. Would be cool if you could enable them to upgraded along with the system, since I figure it will be pretty broken upon first login..08:25
ki7mtleeyaa, I may be due to the fpm pool, mabe some processes spawn others but are counted in the fpm sum or something.08:26
ki7mtit may ..08:26
leeyaaki7mt: fpm does spawn others yes08:26
leeyaaeach user can spawn more processes for his pool08:26
zzakcmy specs are i7 3770k , 8gb ram , r9 280x Sapphire Vapor , Asrock h77 pro4 mvp , windows 7 6408:26
fishorwilee-nilee,  yes for some hours before update08:26
ki7mtleeyaa, I'd suspect it's a counter situation then, system vs. user, but still should be able to test for it.08:27
zzakci cant install any linux they all freeze so i came here and wilee suggested i dl the mini iso, so i did, and it seemed to work but it froze at detecting hardware08:27
wilee-nileefishor, Have you installed any proprietary graphic drivers, or any drivers than on the reboot you have this mess?08:28
wilee-nileeany graphic drivers that is08:28
zzakcive used ubuntu before and i quite enjoyed it ( on my old pc) and i was hoping to switch to it for a primary OS on this machine08:28
fishorwilee-nilee, no i use intel GPU and completle opensourced PC08:28
susundbergzzakc: sounds like feasible plan, to me it sounds like you have some 'excotic' hardware there that causes the trouble08:29
susundbergzzakc: to start debugging we would need to know what causes the trouble. You could maybe try to boot with some 'rescue' cd and try to do some lshw there, but as i said, if it does not work out of the box, and you are green on linux i would suggest that you try again maybe later08:29
zzakcwhat if i unplugged my graphics card, and gave it a crack08:29
susundbergzzakc: or you could try the bleeding edge installation if that helps08:30
fishorwilee-nilee, hm.... may be virtula-box. it is only closed source SW...08:30
susundbergzzakc: well it might helps, its bit hard to say what part of the hardware is causing troubles08:30
wilee-nileefishor, I'm not sure, but my guess is some fiddling around has caused this if it worked, or an update/upgrade. Try the guest account and see if it works, if it does than my hypothesis is probably correct on the fiddling.08:30
fishorwilee-nilee, no guset session has sam issue.08:31
zzakcah i see , well i guess i will try the bleeding edge installation08:31
zzakcwhat is that08:31
wilee-nileefishor, Have you run a update/upgrade since the install, if so were there any held packages, or a partial upgrade warning?08:32
susundbergzzakc: that is the next release, still in debug phase, so its more unstable than current version08:32
susundbergzzakc: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/08:32
fishorwilee-nilee, yes i run update :) i already told it some times. I sure for 100% it is after update. But no, there was no warnings08:33
zzakcok thank you for all the help i appreciate the time given08:33
wilee-nileefishor, I wish I had an answer, but I'm at a loss. ;)08:34
Trozzfishor: any chance of providing the log file?08:34
Trozzhopefully we can see it failing (possibly)08:34
fishorwilee-nilee,  worst thing... i made update on two PCs at same time... well, both have same results :( o one of it i tried to install gnome-shell to have at least one working WM, but after ti it has even more error then before :/08:36
wilee-nileefishor, You could install lubuntu probably and have a desktop to work from to fix this.08:38
wilee-nileethe lubuntu-desktop08:38
wilee-nileefishor, These virtual setups perchance?08:39
fishorwilee-nilee, ?08:40
wilee-nileefishor, a question mark means nothing without a context.08:40
bazhangfishor, are these in virtual box, vmware?08:41
fishorbazhang, no08:42
Nikuyawilee-nilee, ki7mt: thanks a bunch for the help earlier. I fixed the suspend problem by disabling the grub bootloader graphics08:45
antonio_[Virtualbox question] I'm trying to access a new printer via wifi.  I'm running Win XP in a virtual box...linux is the host machine.  I'm not sure if I'll be able to see the printer on a wifi connection...since XP is using the connection from Virtualbox.  What can I do?08:46
trijntjeI have this anoying problem that the first time I search in the dash after a reboot it literaly takes 10 seconds to find a program, but every search after that is fast. How can I fix this, its making unity completely useless, I now mostly just use the terminal to start things since its faster08:48
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bazhangantonio_, perhaps try in #vbox as well08:50
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antonio_bazhang: I've asked quite a few times...no one is answering08:51
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aursdoes anyone know when this will be fixed? https://bugs.launchpad.net/wireshark/+bug/131117308:55
ubottuUbuntu bug 1311173 in wireshark (Ubuntu) "VoIP call flow analyses cause wireshark crashes " [Undecided,Confirmed]08:55
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cfhowlettantonio_ you're "not sure" you'll be able to see the printer ... perhaps you should try.08:55
cfhowlettaurs "unassigned" generally means no one is working on it.08:57
aursI'm not sure, but I think it actually is fixed and just needs a new build08:57
Guest48378antonio_, additionally your xp vm (guest) will probably need a network interface of type "Bridged Adapter" so that it is in the local lan of the wifi printer (and the host) and can "see" it08:58
aursI'd do it if I knew how :)08:58
trijntjeI have this anoying problem that the first time I search in the dash after a reboot it literaly takes 10 seconds to find a program, but every search after that is fast. How can I fix this, its making unity completely useless, I now mostly just use the terminal to start things since its faster08:58
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testdrhi, did anyone notice the additional https-traffic with the new firefox-29-update for mouseover-moves over https-links in webpages. I could verify it for ubuntu-12.04 and lubuntu-14.04.09:02
lotuspsychjetrijntje: older computer?09:02
Trozztestdr: attempting to preload maybe? I haven't noticed it but I haven't been checking09:03
lotuspsychjetrijntje: did you try disable background blur from ccsm?09:03
testdrTrozz: a newer nightly-build firefox does it not - and the older firefox-28 (before update) did it not.09:04
trijntjelotuspsychje, it came with vista, it has a core 2 Duo CPU and Radeon HD5670 videocard. I can still run ubuntu within virtualbox, so thats not the problem09:04
lotuspsychjetrijntje: 14.04 clean install?09:04
trijntjelotuspsychje, its not the opening of the dash thats slow, its the appearance of the search results for installed programs09:04
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lotuspsychjetrijntje: how about disable internet search from dash and amazon09:05
trijntjeno, not a clean install. I forgot what I installed originally, do you know how to find that?09:05
Trozztestdr: Strange, I'm on a Win machine at the moment but if I can get on a box ill give it a try, how you checking for the traffic?09:05
trijntjelotuspsychje, already done09:05
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lotuspsychjetrijntje: might be old leftover from upgrade maybe? i would surely try 14.04 clean to see if it fixes09:06
testdrTrozz: in the german ubuntu-forum there is a whole thread about it - you need english details?09:06
lotuspsychjetrijntje: trusty should be really fast on your machine09:06
Trozztestdr: send me the link (I'll see how much I can understand my german is very basic)09:06
trijntjelotuspsychje, its fast generally, just the first time after a reboot it takes 10 seconds or so09:07
lotuspsychjetrijntje: many packages installed on system?09:08
aurssame for me trijntje. Looks like it's searching Internet and the external stuff first, and then after a few seconds, applications09:08
aursbut only on the first search for me too09:08
user123321Ubuntu is awesome! ^^09:08
lotuspsychjeaurs: you also upgraded, or clean install?09:08
aurslotuspsychje, upgraded. Don't remember how far back though09:09
trijntjelotuspsychje, not really, I tend to stick to the defaults. And its lightning fast after the first time09:10
cfhowlettaurs as noted in message #10, it has been fixed in debian, so perhaps we're just waiting for the upstream to flow downstream ...09:10
lotuspsychjewell in my opninion, trusty supports till 2019 its worth a while to install it clean..09:10
lotuspsychjeall the machines i installed clean with trusty, fast as rocket09:10
trijntjeaurs, did you update to trust alpha/beta or only after the release?09:11
trijntjelotuspsychje, I tend to install every release, so re-installing every 6 months is anoying09:12
lotuspsychjetrijntje: any relevant info show your syslog while opening dash/apps?09:12
aurstrijntje, no, I waited for the release09:12
aurscfhowlett, equipping ring of patience :D09:12
lotuspsychje!info wireshark | aurs this the version you using?09:13
ubottuaurs this the version you using?: wireshark (source: wireshark): network traffic analyzer - GTK+ version. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.10.6-1 (trusty), package size 819 kB, installed size 2536 kB09:13
trijntjelotuspsychje, nothing obvious at least, but I'm not really sure what to look for09:14
babinlonstonHi Everyone, Is there any one familiar with iptables , Please guide me to get fix, I have applied the DROP for every chain INPUT, OUTPUT, FORWARD, Now i have added rules for ssh to remote some machine but i cant access the remote machine , Please have a look at this paste i have explained every think there.09:14
lotuspsychjetrijntje: maybe do a realtime tail -f /var/log/syslog and mess a bit with dash09:14
lotuspsychjetrijntje: or look in terminal dmesg09:15
babinlonstonHi Everyone, Is there any one familiar with iptables , Please guide me to get fix, I have applied the DROP for every chain INPUT, OUTPUT, FORWARD, Now i have added rules for ssh to remote some machine but i cant access the remote machine , Please have a look at this paste i have explained every think there. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7586164/09:15
lotuspsychje!iptables | babinlonston09:15
ubottubabinlonston: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has built-in firewall capabilities. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | GUI frontends such as Gufw also exist. | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo09:15
aurslotuspsychje, dpkg -s wireshark says Version: 1.10.6-109:16
trijntjelotuspsychje, I'll try that later, since I'll have to reboot to trigger the behaviour. Thanks so far, maybe I should just reinstall, but thats such a hassle ;)09:16
lotuspsychjetrijntje: aptoncd might be able to help :p09:16
babinlonstonokay09:16
lotuspsychjeaurs: maybe the #wireshark guys might know anything usefull?09:17
aurslotuspsychje, I just thought they've fixed it and it needs a new build for the deb package, but I can ask there09:17
lotuspsychjetrijntje: maybe preload could also boost things?09:18
jostI have got a HDD with a total of about 150GB space. Now I mirrored the disk using dd (dd if=/dev/sda ibs=4M | ssh foo@bar 'dd of=/filename.img obs=4M'). The command didn't throw an error, but the resulting file is only 77GB big. Why?09:18
lotuspsychje!info preload | trijntje09:18
ubottutrijntje: preload (source: preload): adaptive readahead daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-2 (trusty), package size 34 kB, installed size 135 kB09:18
trijntjelotuspsychje, I dont think so, nothing else is slow to start, and I dont hear a lot of HD activity09:19
lotuspsychjetrijntje: weird indeed, never seen this issue for applications only09:19
lotuspsychjetrijntje: you have lot of packages installed?09:20
AturnwaldHello, can me help one, please ? I'll don't know who I'll do it right09:20
lotuspsychjeAturnwald: you can just ask your ubuntu question here mate09:20
trijntjelotuspsychje, dpkg --get-selections | wc -l gives 2865, but thats all packages of course09:21
AturnwaldO.K. in Ubuntu, there is a small pop up box, wich comes, when I move over a few programms, and my question is, can I change the time of the box09:21
trijntjeI dont think I have installed many programs09:21
lotuspsychjetrijntje: maybe it just lags because of big list?09:21
aurslotuspsychje: it is fixed in wireshark, just needs to be backported to the version in ubuntu and rebuilt (https://bugs.wireshark.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=9179)09:22
ubottubugs.wireshark.org bug 9179 in Wireshark "wireshark 1.10.2 32 bit SVN 51934 voip flow graph crash upon opening." [Major,Resolved: fixed]09:22
lotuspsychjeaurs: ah kk09:22
cristian_cHi09:22
trijntjelotuspsychje, how many packages do you have? /bin and /usr/bin/ have 3000 programs together. How many do you have there?09:23
cristian_cI can't open a bug report in launchpad09:23
cristian_cI'm redirected to the wiki page09:23
cristian_cHow can I solve this?09:23
cristian_cAny ideas?09:23
trijntjecristian_c, yes, people want you to report bugs from your ubuntu installation09:23
cristian_cok09:23
trijntjeubuntu-bug firefox in a terminal for example09:23
cristian_cok09:23
geirhacristian_c: read the wiki page, it says what to do ...09:23
Guest48378trijntje, maybe deactivating the online lenses is speeding up your dash? => https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+dash+deactivate+lens+online09:24
arcskywhi ist so tricky to get an ssh welcome msg with Banner?09:24
lotuspsychjetrijntje: 1900 in /bin09:24
trijntjeGuest48378, already done that09:24
Guest48378trijntje, ok09:24
lotuspsychjetrijntje: 152 in /bin 1900 usr/bin09:25
lotuspsychjetrijntje: i think you might wanna cleanup a bit :p09:25
AturnwaldHello, can anyone help me, please. I have a question. When I open a programm, or something else, sometimes when I stay over a text, there comes a small popup windows, with a few notes in it, and my question is, can I change the time of the period from the popup windows, because it disappers to fast09:25
lotuspsychjetrijntje: can you try 14.04 liveusb and check your dash apps maybe09:26
lotuspsychjetrijntje: see if it goes faster on live09:26
trijntjelotuspsychje, really? That is weird. Still, it would be 1 kb to keep those cached in memory09:27
lotuspsychjeAturnwald: what popup windows are you talking about?09:27
fishorthank you for all suggestions. the issue was in nevest version of libgl09:27
fishorhere is the workaround http://askubuntu.com/questions/475683/unity-not-working-14-0409:27
lotuspsychje!ssh | arcsky09:27
ubottuarcsky: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)09:27
fishorbe carefoul with trasty-updates09:28
trijntjelotuspsychje, i'll try that as well, thanks09:28
Aturnwaldhello,  can anyone help me, please?09:28
lotuspsychjetrijntje: maybe find some shredder package to clean system first?09:28
lotuspsychjetrijntje: i use ubuntu-tweak for cleaning out data, but im sure there are better ways :p09:29
fdegenwhois lotuspsychje09:29
lotuspsychjeAturnwald: can you make a screenshot of those popup windows you mean?09:29
Aturnwald_hello, can anyone help me please to solve my problem, with ubuntu 13.0409:32
lotuspsychje!eol | Aturnwald_09:32
ubottuAturnwald_: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades09:32
DJonesAturnwald_: You need to explain your problem in the channel before anybody will know if they can help, but bear in mind that 13.04 is end of life & no longer supported, so you should upgrade to 13.10 at least09:33
aurslotuspsychje, I don't have a lot of files in /bin, but the first search in unity is still very slow09:33
rohith_hi09:34
moarrri have a question09:35
moarrrdo you guys think ubuntu is more or less secure than debian?09:35
moarrranyone?09:37
bcvery!ot | moarrr, that question may well be more suited here09:38
ubottumoarrr, that question may well be more suited here: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!09:38
moarrrok i just asked because i wanted to know which one is best to install for my bitcoin/darkcoin wallet09:38
moarrri need something secure and debain doesnt seem to work with my network09:39
moarrron this machine09:39
mexi_d3moarrr, I am sure it does work if correctly configured.09:39
moarrrmexi_d3: yes, but ive been trying to configure it for hours, and before my gui was working, now its not09:39
aursno network is pretty secure though ;)09:40
moarrri really dont have the time and experience and knowledge to do this09:40
mexi_d3moarrr, Does Ubuntu work on your network?09:40
moarrraurs: no network?09:40
moarrrmexi_d3: i havent tried yet09:40
aursmoarrr: I was just joking09:40
moarrri just want something that is easy to install right now, debian is giving me a headache09:40
moarrrand i need all open ports/servers disabled09:41
moarrrand things secured as much as possible09:41
moarrrno ssh/etc09:41
mexi_d3moarrr, Ubuntu opens avahi and dhcp ports by default. Other than that, there are no open ports.09:41
mexi_d3moarrr, I recommend not using a gui if you want secure09:42
moarrri need a gui mexi_d309:42
moarrrwhat exactly is the reason a gui makes ubuntu insecure?09:43
mexi_d3moarrr, It takes like 5 minutes to try an ubuntu livecd. it will answer a lot of your questions.09:43
moarrrurgh nevermind09:44
mexi_d3moarrr, The more code you have running, the larger the space for exploits. Root priviledge elevation etc.09:44
mexi_d3moarrr, Basically it come down to: If you don't have a gui you don't get hacked by a security vulnerability in the gui09:45
moarrrim not worried about that mexi_d309:45
moarrrthe only software i plan to run is firefox and bitcoin-qt (and a few other cryptocurrency's which are based on that)09:46
moarrri just dont wanna be hacked from the outside09:46
Fuchsthen, as I explained in the OT channel, assure that your server is either not offering any services that listen to things from the outside09:46
Fuchsor, if you do, read on how to configure them properly.09:46
Fuchschoosing a distribution does not take away the need to properly read the documentation of the things you are going to set up and run.09:47
moarrrok i think i got this09:47
moarrrwhat is avahi and how do i disable it?09:47
Fuchsa zeroconf deamon09:47
Fuchsby stopping it. Why would you do that, though? Zeroconf, by definition, is used for _local_ discovery09:47
moarrrok Fuchs, so theres no danger of letting avahi/dhcp run?09:48
gry<moarrr> what exactly is the reason a gui makes ubuntu insecure?09:48
gryit does not09:48
mexi_d3gry, It makes it less secure.09:49
mexi_d3gry, 'insecure' is a bad word to use09:49
grynot really09:49
gryit was not my word, and I disagree with the 'less secure' concept you're saying09:49
mexi_d3gry, So you are saying there are no security vulnerabilities in the desktop? That wouldn't be a problem if it was not installed?09:50
gryI'm saying that if your use-case needs both security and gui, you should use it - something simpler than a DE if you wish, but don't just hide from its problems09:51
Numline1Hello, I'm using Duplicity (Duply) and S3 for backing up my server. It says it's incremental backup and I'm not sure about the terminology here. Does that mean I'll be able to restore older versions of my files or is it just full data backup?09:53
mexi_d3gry: That's not even remotely identical to what you said earlier. I'm glad you now agree though.09:53
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ceboris it possible to reset /etc/default/grub ??10:20
ceborto default settings ?10:20
cfhowlettcebor sudo update-grub10:21
ceborcfhowlett: so i remove the cfg file, and it will be regenerated ?10:22
nectarys_how do I to get this color scheme please : http://i.stack.imgur.com/8hmKu.png ?10:22
cfhowlettcebor do NOT remove the config file.  that command will rewrite it.10:23
num7I i'm booting from a LiveCD (ubuntu 12.04) and wanna  find out which Version (WinXP, Win7 x64 oder x32) is installed on a hdd, how can i find out the version?10:23
ikonianum7: look at the boot.ini ?10:23
ceborcfhowlett: no it sets the settings defined inside10:23
num7ikonia, Can i open the boot.ini in nano or another texteditor and there is standing the version?10:24
cfhowlettcebor OK - rename the .config but don't remove.  CYA ...10:24
ikoniait's just a text file10:24
ceborbut removing the file and then run update-grub, does the trick10:24
ikonianum7: the guys in ##windows can give you other ideas of methods to check the windows version10:24
num7ikonia, okay, thank you10:24
nectarys_ how do I to get this color scheme please : http://i.stack.imgur.com/8hmKu.png ?10:26
geirhanectarys_: for vim or for tmux?10:27
geirha(or is that screen?)10:27
nectarys_geirha, for tmux10:27
geirhanectarys_: I don't know. It might be completely custom by the author of that screenshot for all we know.10:29
nectarys_geirha, ok thank you. but otherwise, is there any library that I can apply to change the default color scheme, please ?10:30
geirhanectarys_: I read that as "how do I configure tmux?" in which case I recommend joining #tmux where they should know tmux pretty well10:32
justicehello10:38
jango42hi10:38
justicewhats good10:39
cfhowlettjustice ask your ubuntu questions10:39
Guest48378nectarys_, I guess, what we see here in that screenshot is a byobu session (tmux'ed) with several source files in a editor (syntax highlighting), one "less" session and a "cow say". - So nothing special, i. e. nano has a switch for the kind of source to edit and the syntax higlighting to activate (nano -Y <str> => also see "man nano" for that)10:44
cfhowlett!info byobu10:45
ubottubyobu (source: byobu): powerful, text based window manager and shell multiplexer. In component main, is optional. Version 5.77-0ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 100 kB, installed size 629 kB10:45
somsipnectarys_: that's a vim color scheme so maybe ask in #vim10:45
nectarys_Guest48378, But it's not vim ? I'm just trying to get that color scheme render. That I wasn't able to find some documentation about on the net.10:47
nectarys_somsip, okay thank you very much ^^10:48
k9-How can I add repositories of boot-repair on kali linux?10:48
cfhowlett!kali|k9- sorry but kali is not supported on this channel10:49
ubottuk9- sorry but kali is not supported on this channel: Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu itself, as other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), kali-linux (#kali-linux), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)10:49
Guest48378nectarys_, => "I guess", could be sure vim with highlighting. - I've no knowledge on syntax tweaking, sorry.10:49
aursnectarys_: check out http://vim.spf13.com10:49
geirhanectarys_: byobu is a wrapper around tmux/screen that among other things let you set different predefined color themes10:49
geirhaTo get syntax highlighting in vim, edit   /etc/vim/vimrc  and uncomment the lines you see fit10:50
geirha(or copy it to ~/.vimrc and edit that instead)10:50
ismael_hola10:54
andywwwHi, i have a ruby script which is listening on a port, I’d like to make it a daemon10:56
andywwwis there a defactor standard wrapper i can put it in which can be polled periodically and have the script restarted if its not running for whatever reason?10:56
corotronhla10:57
corotronhola10:57
corotronayuda por favor10:57
cfhowlett!es|corotron10:57
ubottucorotron: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.10:57
corotronanda leches10:57
keevitajahello, does anyone have working installation of wine with cups printing support installed. i'd like to see the win.ini file10:59
ashley69hello algien que sepa de linux please11:00
cfhowlett!es|ashley6911:00
ubottuashley69: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.11:00
omi_1hello.., currently I installed tlp to improve my battery on my laptop..,and some called tp-smapi etc, and now it won't charge.., the battery inidicator show 57% only..,but it's been a while since I plug the ac adapter..,I wonder what is the problem11:04
Voyagehow to install flash player in ubuntu for browsers?11:05
mexi_d3Voyage: It's built-in to Google Chrome.11:05
hateball!flash | Voyage11:06
ubottuVoyage: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash11:06
mexi_d3Voyage: I +think+ Flash for firefox is in the ubuntu restricted extras, however firefox flash is outdated.11:06
diegolopezIsma??11:06
ashley69hola11:06
cfhowlett!es|ashley6911:06
ubottuashley69: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.11:06
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ashley69esta vacio11:07
cfhowlettashley69 ENGLISH por favor11:07
Mr_Quist!nl|Mr_Quist11:07
ubottuMr_Quist, please see my private message11:07
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hateballVoyage, mexi_d3: Flash through repos for Firefox is outdated yes. If you want to use Chromium rather than Chrome you can use pepperflashplugin-nonfree11:07
diegolopezIn English Ashley pls....11:07
ashley69no se ingles11:08
ashley69el chat en español esta vacio11:08
k1ldiegolopez: ashley69 stop that. dont spoil the support channel11:08
cfhowlettES | ashley6911:08
ashley69y estoy en un examen11:08
ashley69y necesito ayuda11:08
knobashley69, what you need?  I can translate11:08
knobashley69, yo puedo traducir.11:08
k1l!es > ashley6911:08
ubottuashley69, please see my private message11:08
cfhowlettashley69 BS stop, go away, we're not here to play with you today11:09
knoboh.. troll?  =(11:09
cfhowlettknob absolutely11:09
knobahh... oh well11:09
knobI think trolling must be as old as humanity itself11:09
k1lyes, was directed several times to the spanish channel and got several clients in here. now please focus back on support :)11:09
knobI think even older than language11:09
cfhowlettmoving on ...11:10
knobOk.  Changing the topic...   Last night I got fed up with Windows11:10
knobBought a 240 GB ssd11:10
knobInstalling 14.0.4 tonight11:10
knobmain workstation11:10
keevitajahello, does anyone have working installation of wine with cups printing support installed. i'd like to see the win.ini file11:11
jango42good on ya knob11:13
knobjango42, yeah.   I was using latest Ubuntu in a small laptop I had11:14
knobAnd I think it helped the migration a lot.   Yet now, now I am ready to change the workstation completely.11:15
knobPlus I want to see how I can contribute back to Ubuntu, little by little.  I am still a programming and security n00b, yet I like those topics a lot.11:15
knobEspecially security.11:15
jango42yes security is interesting indeed11:16
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mexi_d3knob, Even if you can't code, you can contribute by getting other people to use it or you can donate to Canonical :-)11:19
Voyagehateball,  I cant see kubuntu-restrictede-extras in repos or cache search11:20
dupingping hi everybody.11:21
knobmexi_d3, oh yeah.  I have installed two other laptops within the last month.   Both persons have been very happy.11:22
dupingpingI could not print with my printer, I'm using ubuntu12.04 4LTS.11:22
knobAnd I have a small website, which I am moving over to Ubuntu server.    It was a big job for me, yet I am 95% done.   I installed Ubuntu server, setup apache, mariadb, php5, and WordPress11:22
knobNot much, yet for me, it was like "Woha! I did it!"11:22
hateballVoyage: Well are you on Ubuntu or Kubuntu? Also check your spelling, it's kubuntu-restricted-extras11:25
Voyagehateball,  had ubuntu, then installed kubuntu-desktop11:26
dupingping?11:27
iracijester- ci sei?11:27
Voyagehateball,  k11:28
hateballVoyage: We're alive and kicking over in #kubuntu as well ;)11:29
Voyagek11:31
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jango42anyone running Ubuntu on VMware whats the verdict/11:34
Voyagehateball,  E: Unable to locate package kubuntu-restricted-extras11:38
Pessimist!anyone | jango4211:38
jango42hihihi11:38
hateballVoyage: make sure you run "apt-get update" first11:38
cfhowlettVoyage you must enable multiverse repository11:39
PessimistThey removed this factoid..11:39
cfhowlettPessimist true11:39
hateballjango42: VmWare is a company, they make many products11:41
pieteraAny idea why I can't install the i386 version of libgtksourceview2.0-common on my 64-bit Trusty Tahr? The package contains no architecture dependent files...11:41
jango42yes I was refering to VMware work station 1011:41
Voyagehateball,  did that11:41
Voyagecfhowlett,  how?11:41
tadohey all. I've got a graphic problem. the mouse cursor is not aligned with the screen, which means i have to hover 1cm above a link in firefox to click it. this happens only when windows are maximised. i had been told to wait for intel's linux drivers installer, now i have installed the whole thing, but the problem persists. any ideas?11:42
utopianHI whatz the offtopic channel for #ubuntu11:42
bcvery!ot | utopian11:43
ubottuutopian: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!11:43
cfhowlettVoyage system > update manager > settings > ubuntu software11:43
slowubuntuhi i have a dell laptop running ubuntu 12.04 and it takes a lot of time during boot and is stuck on the purple screen for a lot of time I did 'dmesg' and could see a large gap of time but can't understand the prob can anyone please help?11:43
utopianThankz bcvery11:43
Voyagecfhowlett,  iam on cmd11:44
cfhowlettVoyage https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine11:44
hateballVoyage: in a terminal, "sudo apt-get update"11:45
slowubuntucan anyone please help understanding dmesg logs?11:45
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hateball!paste | slowubuntu11:45
ubottuslowubuntu: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.11:45
Voyagehateball,  did that11:45
Voyagehateball,  did that, even upgraded11:45
hateball!multiverse11:45
ubottuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories.11:45
hateballVoyage: Then enable multiverse either using GUI or editing sources.list directly, apt-get update again11:46
slowubuntuhateball: can you please help here's the dmesg log http://pastebin.com/b9ZfBm1R11:46
hateballslowubuntu: well the first pause is for running fsck, does that happen every time? It indicates unclean shutdown, or possibly a problem with your HDD11:48
hateballslowubuntu: then it appears to be stuck for a while after loading the ATI driver, but I know nothing about ATI and possible quirks11:49
Kobayashihello11:56
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knobHey guys, n00b question.  I generated rsa keys with a passphrase in my laptop.   I use that to connect to my server.    When I log into my server, say I want to do   sudo mkdir foo/          My user's password in the server is very complicated.     Is there a way to generate a passphrase for the password server-side?11:57
Armag3dd0n24how well does ipods work with ubuntu? i got some music on my ipod that I want on ubuntu to transfer to my s3 lte. would it be hard?11:57
knobOr how do you do it?           Once you are logged in non-root as your user, how do you "jump" to root with sudo?11:57
slowubuntuhateball: by the first pause you mean when it jumps from 2 to 6 seconds?11:58
PessimistArmag3dd0n24, Try It And See™11:59
Armag3dd0n24ugh ;p11:59
Armag3dd0n24trying now :D12:00
Fritzenduganit appears that somehow I uninstalled whatever packages are responsible for the "system preferences" in unity. I'm running Ubuntu 14. How do I get "system preferences" back?12:00
basichashwhere is the xterm256 dir?12:00
slowubuntucan someone please help me understandinf dmesg output as my system is too slow12:01
Guest48378knob, read about using ssh key files and configuration of the sshd daemon ("man sshd_config" / "man ssh-keygen" /set up authorized_keys) => no need for a password/passphrase => http://askubuntu.com/questions/61557/how-do-i-set-up-ssh-authentication-keys12:02
Armag3dd0n24ipod just crashed :/ ugh. guess it doesn't work with ubuntu :S12:02
hateballslowubuntu: actually didnt even notice that. ata link slow to respond is often cause for concern. I mean the part where it runs fsck. If it tells you ata link slow, and it runs fsck... then the disk is probably in bad shape. I would backup first, then run smartctl (disk utility) and check the drive for physical errors12:03
knobGuest48378, on my way.  Thank you!12:03
Guest48378knob, you're welcome.12:03
slowubuntuhateball: ok and what about the other pauses?12:04
hateballslowubuntu: well they could all be down to the disk being bad and slow to read from12:04
hateballslowubuntu: So checking that first would be what I would do12:04
knobGuest48378, Ok,  That part I did.   I generated locally my key, and ssh-copy-id over to the server.    Tested, and all good.   No need for password.   My doubt it:      When I log into the server, I am    knob@rem.ote.ser.ver              .     If I want to do  sudo mkdir foo/              in that remote server, I have to enter knob's password over in the server.12:05
slowubuntuhateball: ok12:05
knobHow can I not do that?  I mean, is there a way?12:05
wigircknob, you may disable sudo password12:06
wigircknob, but i think it's not good12:06
knobwigirc, yes.   That is what I was also told.       What I'm thinking is changing my password to something easier to type, yet still hard.12:06
yorwoshi every1 , my software updater today is including a patch called "get hot new stuff v3 library for kde platoform" , and i read its about sharing cababilities for kde applications.  Still im using ubuntustudio 13.10 with xfce? i suppose , will i break something if i dont apply this patch ? im concerned about privacy (not that i have any problem , just in theory)12:07
wigircknob, http://askubuntu.com/questions/192050/how-to-run-sudo-command-with-no-password12:07
hateballknob: there is also this http://superuser.com/questions/164078/how-to-make-shared-keys-ssh-authorized-keys-and-sudo-work-together scroll down a bit for the pam-module instructions12:08
Guest48378knob, this is standard behaviour, if you are a sudo-user (same as if you operate in a local shell, yes?) - The deactivation your root password/doing the ssh'ing with your root account is of no good ... ;)12:08
knobGuest48378, yes yes.. I am trying to get on-the-ball with my security and best practices.       I mean, I just started using sudo.   I previously did everything root.12:09
knobhateball, reading!12:09
knobwigirc, checking that out12:10
Guest48378knob, np.12:10
wigircknob, knob, also i think that you don't need long password and 8 characters  will be enough12:10
ron__hello tracyone12:10
tracyone?12:11
basichashwhere do .terminal theme files go?12:11
wigircknob, it's better than disable sudo password12:11
ron__what ?12:11
yorwosknob try this, eg. if ur pwd is "beatiful" try beati123!@#ful"12:11
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tracyone(08:10:47 PM) ron__:12:12
tracyonehello tracyone12:12
ron__how do you do12:12
ioiooiioiohello12:12
tracyone:-D12:13
ron__thats good12:13
ron__whats up12:15
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yorwosguyz let me ask u something more "easy"12:15
bazhang!ot | ron__12:15
ubotturon__: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!12:15
yorwoswhats the simpolest way to backup all my linux hard drive ? (many partitions)12:16
Armag3dd0n24it works now, my lead was broke. thanks guys/girls. :p12:16
tracyonedd12:16
bazhang!sbackup | yorwos12:16
ubottuyorwos: sbackup is a tool to create complete and/or incremental backups (which can be scheduled to be automatic, and can be done over a network). It is available in !Universe12:16
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yorwosty guyz im on it12:16
yorwosok another one question ,this should be easier12:18
yorwosdo u know any sites to post a screenshot of my desktop so others can arrange their own in this style if they like it ?12:18
bazhangimgur.com yorwos12:18
yorwosty baz;)12:19
Guest48378yorwos, create a dropbox account and share the link to an uploaded screenshot/folder with screenshots in it (a little more private)12:20
alex_hi12:21
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yorwosim using 2 panels , xfce style i think , 1in left and 1 at right , firefox n programs run inside they dont overlap ,(shortcuts on desktop r for some tests im doing atm keep it clean )u can have it almost clean , made it here -> http://imgur.com/6HzhYAQ12:23
yorwoswith a bottom menu bar kind of12:24
harish_harish/freenode:SMD4HLb7fyd2gUBhIwqX12:24
yorwosif u like it , or specially if u have something to propose to me to make it even easier tell me12:25
yorwosbasically ive put graphics/music programs on left bar , and general purpose programs to the right12:25
starkserveri am trying to connect whatsapp to IRC12:26
starkserveris that cool12:26
jostI've got a hard drive that I want to copy to an image file. Problem is that this hard drive is the only drive in that machine, and it is hard to add another one (its a laptop), so the image has to be written using ssh12:28
ikoniajost: just get a usb disk12:28
jostThat works find using dd, but the command fails due to an I/O error (probably outside the used space)12:28
ikoniaplug it in directly the machine, keep it simple and easy12:28
lukrophey there!12:28
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jostikonia: ok, and if I don't want to afford that?12:29
ikoniajost: you can't afford that, but you can affort another machine to do it over ssh ?12:29
lukropis there a special reason why my SATA disk is not detected as boot device after a reboot? if i boot with any liveos and mount the fs, the next reboot works flawlessly12:29
jostikonia: yes, that other machine is already there - the USB drive would cost me 100€ or something12:30
starkserverget some technician12:30
lukropis ubuntu doing any hdparm black magic on shutdown?12:30
ikonialukrop: what do you mean, not detected, in what way12:30
ikoniajost: how big is the disk you want to make an image of ?12:30
jost150GB12:30
ikoniajost: then it is not 100euros for a 150GB disk12:30
jost1 NTFS partition, of which about 50GB are in use12:30
lukropikonia: the netbook won't boot.. grub doesn't appear.. UEFI recognizes the disk but asks for a valid boot device12:31
ikonialukrop: not ubuntu then, it's the device doing that12:31
lukropafter a mount inside a live environment the next boot works flawless12:31
ikonialukrop: sounds odd,12:31
lukropikonia: debian wheezy does not show this behaviour12:31
nullbyte_how can i mount raid hdd12:32
ikonialukrop: doesn't change the fact12:32
ikonialukrop: if it's not got to grub - ubuntu has not booted, so it's not in play yet12:32
ikonianullbyte_: hardware or software raid12:32
nullbyte_hardware12:32
ikonianullbyte_: what raid level ?12:32
nullbyte_it's a ntfs partition, level012:32
ikonianullbyte_: then you just mount the device for it12:33
Guest48378jost, I haven't done this by myself, but see => https://duckduckgo.com/?q=dd+over+ssh12:33
ikoniaI advise against doing it over ssh12:33
nullbyte_ikonia: mount: Function not implemented with mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt12:33
nullbyte_or with -t ntfs12:33
ikonianullbyte_: please show me the exact command please.12:34
nullbyte_mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt12:34
* Guest48378 switched into learning mode12:34
nullbyte_returns: unction not implemented12:34
nullbyte_F12:34
ikonianullbyte_: no sudo ?12:34
nullbyte_with sudo12:34
jostGuest48378: problem is that I can't use dd, since some sector on the disk is damaged. It has to be ddrescue or something12:34
ikonianullbyte_: right, so I said the EXACT command12:34
nullbyte_thaths it12:34
nullbyte_before of that i run sudo su12:34
Guest48378jost, ok12:34
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ikonianullbyte_: what is the raid controller ?12:35
lukropikonia: are there any powersaving packages installed by default?12:35
ikonialukrop: yes12:35
lukropso it could be that ubuntu is setting some powersaving settings on the disk it doesnt like12:36
kanthalaraghuI'm currently using elementary os ..12:36
ikonia,12:36
ikonialukrop: no12:36
nullbyte_ikonia: 6 xSATA 3 Gb/s ports Support RAID 0,1,0+1,5  Intel ICH10R controller12:36
ikonianullbyte_: is the controller on the motherboard ?12:36
nullbyte_ikonia: two HDDs12:36
nullbyte_ikonia: yes12:36
ikonianullbyte_: then it's fake raid12:36
ikonianot a real hardware raid card12:37
lotuspsychje!elementary | kanthalaraghu12:37
ubottukanthalaraghu: Elementary OS is an Ubuntu derivative which is supported in their IRC channel #elementary on irc.freenode.net - http://elementaryos.org/ for more information on this distribution.12:37
lukropikonia: so whats /etc/hdparm.conf then?12:38
ikonialukrop: the config file12:38
lotherk_ikonia, you're the greatest, eh?12:38
ikonialotherk_: what do you want me to say ? you've just asked what a files is, it's the config file for hdparm ?12:39
lotherk_ikonia?12:39
ikoniaoops12:39
ikoniawrong person12:39
ikoniasorry12:39
ikonialotherk_: what are you talking about the greatest ? can I help you ?12:40
lukropikonia: what are the powermanagement packages installed by default? you know any?12:40
lotherk_ikonia, no. I was just reading your answers to several problems and it just came out of me, sorry.12:41
biebI installed 14.04 server edition. We don't have ipv6 supported here at the office. I think I have turned off ipv6 via a couple help docs from the ubuntu site. I can remote to the static IP from my desktop.. and from the server I can ping IP addresses, but it will not resolve host names (ping www.cnn.com, www.yahoo.com) which also means apt-get update fails. I figure there is an issue with my hosts file, but I don't see anything odd in it. What else should I l12:41
ikonialukrop: things like cpuscale, and obviously the apci bios interface to the power managment12:42
compdocbieb, any idea which help docs you used to disable ipv6? the best way is to edit  sysctl.conf12:45
duanewhats the best program to download for copying music onto a disc12:45
biebcompdoc: one sec I will open sysctl and tell you what I changed12:45
lotuspsychje!burn | duane12:46
ubottuduane: CD/DVD burning software: k3b (KDE), brasero (GNOME), gnomebaker, xcdroast, wodim (command-line) | To burn ISO files, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto12:46
truexfan81is anyone able to successfully install mate on 14.04?12:46
compdocbieb, no, thats ok. sounds like you did it right12:46
compdocbieb, you need to change your dns server12:47
compdocbieb, you can ping ip addresses?12:47
biebcompdoc: yes I can ping ip12:47
biebcompdoc: the dns server is the one that we use for all systems.. and it works for my other linux box12:48
compdocbieb, how is the dns set? do you edit /etc/network/interfaces  ?12:49
biebcompdoc: I ping 8.8.8.8 Google's public DNS and that works.. I ping server name of server on the same lan and it waits, then comes back "unknown host"12:49
dino82what is in your /etc/resolv.conf12:50
biebcompdoc: I set the IP and DNS during install12:51
biebdino82: just "name server IPaddy"12:52
compdocbieb, you need to find where its set - /etc/resolv.conf    or /etc/network/interfaces12:52
biebcompdoc: both files have the same DNS server12:52
dino82nslookup <name> will tell you what you are using for DNS12:52
biebdino82: when I do nslookup servername   I get  :: connection times out; no servers could be reached12:54
lukropikonia: FYI disabling disk power management (apm 255 in /etc/hdparm.conf) did the trick. so ubuntu is doing hdparm stuff ;)12:55
Guest48378bieb, first check resolv.conf for correct dns ips and syntax one line = one ip "nameserver 8.8.8.8" (Google DNS 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 - OpenDNS 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220), you could add a line in interfaces at your desired iface eth<X> ... => dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4 => also think about open port 53 (DNS) and firewall12:56
RenardHello! I have an issue with onboard audio on 14.04 x64, it's skipping/glitching every few minutes. My machine has a Realtek ALC892 chip. I tried a few things inc deactivating Pulse scheduling, to no avail. Strangely, the LiveCD works just fine on the same machine. What do?12:56
RenardSince my machine is to be used as a mediacenter quite a lot of time, it's quite critical to me12:57
lotuspsychje!sound | Renard12:57
ubottuRenard: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.12:57
testdrRenard: check if its only happening to audio - and not to local played video or to video like from youtube thru browser..12:59
Renardall audio12:59
metalbrickI use KDE on ubuntu, the usage of memory of Xorg  keeps increasing, and reaches like 400-500M, it this normal or there's somehow memory leak of my system ?12:59
Renardxbmc / totem / mplayer / vlc / whatever is pushed throught internal audio. BT / remote is fine.13:00
metalbrickanyone knows about that ?13:00
lotuspsychjeRenard: check realteks website for latest audio drivers maybe?13:00
RenardI'm hesitant due to voices.canonical.com/david.henningsson/2012/07/13/top-five-wrong-ways-to-fix-your-audio/13:01
testdrRenard: if live-version did it fine - then it could be the update of a new kernel-version --- so the question is, did it happen after install to harddisk without any update13:03
nectarys_I'm trying to abitye myself with the linux environment (am a developper). what kind of distribution do you advice me to abitye myself with, please?13:04
Renardtestdr, I don't remember it happening right after installing, but didn't pay too much attention as I was configuring the OS; I also always install updates when installing ubuntu. Good point.13:04
user1345ubuntu kylin when booted from USB (unetbootin) stops at initramfs> prompt telling /dev/loop0 cannot mount on filesystem.squashfs? any help here?13:06
testdrrenard:then you should try to boot older kernels of your grub-menu -- checking if there is a difference for the older audio-drivers13:06
jianghaihui怎么设置ubuntukylin14.04中fictx输入法使用98版码表??13:06
jianghaihui五笔输入法13:07
lotuspsychje!kylin | jianghaihui13:07
ubottujianghaihui: Ubuntu Kylin is a variant of Ubuntu that focuses on Chinese users. It is a formal part of Ubuntu. For more information, see http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/ubuntukylin13:07
lotuspsychje!cn | jianghaihui13:07
ubottujianghaihui: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw13:07
RenardI purged the old kernels before realising the issue…13:07
Pumpkin- /win 5113:07
Pumpkin-asfasif13:07
nectarys_I'm trying to abitye myself with the linux environment (am a developper). what kind of distribution do you advice me to abitye myself with, please?13:09
lotuspsychjenectarys_: what kind of developement?13:09
jianghaihui /join #ubuntu-cn13:09
nectarys_lotuspsychje,  web/mobile/desktop applications13:10
lotuspsychjenectarys_: check #ubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-touch13:10
lotuspsychjenectarys_: there are several packages you can install from ubuntu to develope those13:10
nectarys_lotuspsychje, why that cannals and not this one ?13:10
testdrRenard: i dont know anything of your system, but if its only used as a play/audiostation, then you can stick to the working live-version ... booted from an usb-stick .. or from the first install13:10
lotuspsychjenectarys_: the devel guys might point you to relevant packages13:11
nectarys_lotuspsychje, yes I know. Because I think that the only choices that I have are Debian, Ubuntu or Arch-Linux.13:11
lotuspsychjenectarys_: as you are here in #ubuntu support, we advice you install ubuntu of course13:11
nectarys_lotuspsychje, oh I see. thank you :))13:12
lotuspsychjenectarys_: there are many professional tools to develope on ubuntu13:12
nectarys_lotuspsychje, I'm using them but13:13
nectarys_lotuspsychje, I thought that there is a professional distribution dédicated to developpers and curious person13:13
metalbrickI use KDE on ubuntu, the usage of memory of Xorg  keeps increasing, and reaches like 400-500M, is this normal or there's somehow memory leak of my system ?13:13
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lotuspsychjenectarys_: every Os has developers, that would be your choice...13:14
nectarys_lotuspsychje, okay, thank you :))13:15
user1345ubuntu kylin when booted from USB (unetbootin) stops at initramfs> prompt telling /dev/loop0 cannot mount on filesystem.squashfs? any help here?13:17
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cfhowlettuser1345 did you verify both the downloaded ISO and the USB?13:19
daveyesdaveI'm looking for a way to colour code nautilus when I connect to a remote server, for example default to a red background when connected to live server etc...13:20
user1345cfhowlett: yes md5 was perfect13:20
lotuspsychjedaveyesdave: maybe something usefull here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/84130/how-do-i-theme-the-nautilus-background-image13:22
user1345cfhowlett: USB was loaded with unetbootin. so that should not have any problems. it says cannot mount /dev/loop0 ( /cdrom/casper/squashfs.filesystem ) on squashfs.filesystem.13:22
Axis_Hi. Which Linux should I be getting, I don't know if I should get 32bit or 64bit?13:22
lotuspsychjeAxis_: is your cpu 64bit?13:23
user1345cfhowlett: and stops giving me a initramfs> prompt.  i tried noacpi without any use.13:23
Axis_I'm currently using Windows 7, 64 bit operating system.13:23
dbuggerHey guys. Everytime I log into Ubuntu 14.04, I get 2 "System Program problem detected" messages. EVERYTIME. Could someone help me find out what the problem is, and how could I solve it?13:23
lotuspsychjeAxis_: then you can install ubuntu 64bit yes13:23
cfhowlettuser1345 newer machine?  windows 8?13:23
Axis_I thought 64BIT was with computers with more than 2 GB ram. I have exactly 2GB ram.13:24
Renardupgraded audio drivers, issue persists13:24
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user1345cfhowlett: no i have linuxmint and fedora.13:24
factotumAxis_ then you have just enough to run 64-bit13:24
Axis_Will I get the best performance running 64 bit over 32?13:24
cfhowlettuser1345 so you're multibooting ... therein lies the problem I suspect, but I can't even begin to trouble shoot this one13:25
testdruser1345: could be it looks for the wrong boot-device - this happens for example is using a different bootloader (like plop) to boot from a medium, that is not bootable by bios - with boot-manager plop, booted from a CD, its necessary to remove the CD befor starting from the usb or the system will over and over try to find the rest of it from the CD13:25
daveyesdavelotuspsychje , thanks I have seen this but I think this will change the background in every case rather than just for remove connections?13:25
creycmy mostly stock Lubuntu-Desktop install is 2.2G, Lubuntu-core from a minimal ubuntu install is 2.3G, how can it be a larger footprint??13:25
voidvoidhi13:25
daveyesdavelotuspsychje , sorry *remote connections?13:26
lotuspsychjeAxis_: if your hardware is 64bit, use 64bit Os, so yes will improve13:26
voidvoidhow do i display the size of multiple files with find... im doing this find / -name *sql.gz | du -h but it just display the size of the directorios im currently in13:26
Axis_Last question, Lot. I'm thinking about going with Linux Lite, or Lubuntu. Which one is better with performance (being lightweight)? Sorry if it's off topic.13:26
lotuspsychjeAxis_: i run ubuntu 14.04 64bit myself, working nicely13:26
user1345testdr: its a USB having kylin  prepared on mint using unetbootin.13:26
maekvoidvoid:  you can do | xargs ls -la13:27
lotuspsychjeAxis_: lubuntu or xubuntu are lightweight13:27
OerHeks Axis_  linux lite is not ubuntu.13:27
maekvoidvoid: ls -lah13:27
cfhowlettAxis_ linuxlite isn't supported here.  better is subjective, but lubuntu and xubuntu are both officially creations and thus supported here13:27
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Axis_Which is better between Xubuntu and Lubuntu?13:27
lotuspsychjeAxis_: but with 2gig ram i think you can run ubuntu 14.04 nice also13:27
lotuspsychjeAxis_: your personal choice13:28
user1345testdr: as far as BIOS boot is considered everything is fine with grub shown and then loading many drivers before stopping at initramfs. infact even Kylin desktop image comes for 2-3 seconds and then falls to cmd prompt.13:28
maekim trying to run a bash script with upstart and I need to pass the bash script an env var, for the life of me I Cant get this to work in upstart. it works from cli fine. any ideas how how to do this?13:28
cfhowlettAxis_ again "better" is subjective - depends on your use case and preferences.13:28
Axis_I'm just looking for one that doesn't use a ton of resources.13:29
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Axis_I want Linux on my Laptop.13:29
cfhowlettAxis_ as previously stated: lubuntu and xubuntu are both quite light13:29
Axis_Thank you, CF.13:29
maekAxis_: you could use ubuntu 14.04 and turn off unneeded services. is xubunut still a thing?13:29
testdruser1345: are older versions working .. from grub-menu -> ... or what happens with recovery-mode13:30
voidvoidmaek13:31
voidvoid | xargs du -h its valid ??13:31
maekvoidvoid: i dont know. xargs just does 'a thing' to what you pass it13:32
maekand it pipes nicely with find out put13:32
user1345testdr : recovery mode? is that available. i can remember 1.default 2.Install Kylin 3.Try Kylin 4. Memory Test13:32
maekso find | xargs foo will do foo to everything find finds.13:32
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testdruser1345: sorry - you speaking about the live-version ... -- then what about boot-options like noapic and so on?13:33
ice9how to restore screen brightness after reboot automatically?13:33
user1345testdr:  yes. live version. i tried noapic but same error again.13:33
testdruser1345: and you have enough ram ..13:33
user1345testdr: ram is not an issue.i have 8 gb13:33
voidvoidmaek yes it work fine find / -name *sql.gz | xargs du -h13:34
voidvoidim searching for backups in a server ...13:34
TomyWorkwhat's the difference between nvidia-331 and nvidia-331-updates?13:35
meccoollwhat's the correct way to restart networking in 14.04? sudo service networking restart doesn't work anymore!?!?13:35
TeraJLis there any fix for the "move window to worskpace" shortcuts?13:35
testdruser1345: you have copied the iso to an usb-stick? usb-2.0 ... 3.0 and what hardware and works older live-version without flaw?13:35
user1345testdr: yes. others work properly13:35
murosai does anyone know what's the proper term for processing audio so that lower sounds become louder and lower sounds become louder?13:37
TomyWorklowpass?13:38
TomyWorkwikipedia it and see if it matches13:38
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testdruser1345: can you run the downloaded kylin-image per qemu on another running hardware with ubuntu?13:41
murosaidynamic range compression seems to be the term13:41
user1345testdr: can i try on virtualbox?13:41
testdruser1345: is that windows? -- i dont know, i only know qemu calls13:42
TomyWorkmurosai oh you mean lower volume parts, not lower frequency?13:42
user1345testdr: no i am on linux. how to run on qemu?13:42
testdruser1345: it is only to test your downloaded version works in some other way... with qemu like this:13:43
testdrqemu-system-x86_64 -m 1G -cdrom Name_with_path_to_kylin_iso_image13:43
murosaiTomyWork: yup13:44
user1345testdr: ok i am downloading qemu now. a few minutes and will report back.13:44
cfhowlettkylin will run in virtualbox13:44
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user1345cfhowlett , testdr: yes kylin is running properly on virtualbox13:51
testdruser1345: have you alread edited the boot options -- deleted the "quiet" option to get most of the statusmessages13:51
snuffthey guys, stupid question, but I have window installed on another drive (it's not dual booted with Ubuntu, I'd have to unplug the ubuntu hdd and plug in the Windows one to make windows boot). is it possible to boot it in a vm somehow?13:52
snufftboot it as a vm**13:52
user1345testdr: yes. all those are done. the only two things which are bugging me is i plugged in usb on my usb 3.0 slot and also got unetbootin create squashfs on it. but since its wokring on virtualbox it shoudl work there also.13:53
testdruser1345: pls. try one of your usb-2.0 ports -- may sound funny, but the drivers are not the same for those usb-revisions13:54
SymphonymWith 14.04 I get frequent ping spikes towards 300+ ping after which it goes back to 40-80 (like it was constantly with 13.10). Most notable when playing Counter strike on Steam, any idea what might be causing it?13:54
SymphonymBasically, every ~2 minutes I get spikes of 300 ping (ms) after which it goes back to around 40-80. Which I would see as an unstable Wi-Fi connection, this problem or these spikes did not exist with 13.10.13:57
trijntjeSymphonym, what are you pinging? Try pinging the router and see if the spikes occur there as well14:00
Guest48378snuffit, you could take a full image of your external Windows drive, set up a vm in VirtualBox with a virtual hard disk of the same size and boot into a Ubuntu Live CD with this new vm. - Then mount the empty hard disk and push the Windows image onto the virtual drive. - I don't know the caveats of this procedure, but you are save and there will be no damage for your real Windows drive, if you want to try.14:01
Symphonymtrijntje The ping values are just what I read from in-game in Counter strike :I But how would I go about pinging my router? I assume I'd be using the ping command, should I just pass it my local IP?14:01
trijntjeSymphonym, if you know the IP adres of your router, you can just type 'ping 192.168.1.1' in a terminal to ping it14:02
clone1110which is the security room14:02
trijntjereplace 192 etc with the actual IP of course14:02
Symphonymtrijntje Alright, I'm pinging right now, and I see exactly the same behaviour immidiately. I got a few packets at 0.8 - 0.4 ms and then a bunch of packes came in at 250-350ms, then back to 0.4-0.814:04
Piciclone1110: There is ##security , it is not part of the Ubuntu namespace though.14:04
clone1110thanks14:04
clone1110how to go there...14:04
Piciclone1110: /join ##security14:05
clone1110yup there14:05
Symphonymtrijntje Yea, I can conform this behaviour, just got another 300+ ping spike of 10'ish packets, now back to 0.4-0.814:06
clone1110thanks14:06
trijntjeSymphonym, ok, so the problem is indeed with your wifi. Not sure how to fix that though, can you be closer to the wifi acces point?14:06
Symphonymtrijntje I'm fairly close to my WiFi, roughly 5 meters. Although this behaviour seems to happen on a fairly constant basis, and to make things clear; this behaviour did not exist in 13.10.14:07
user1345testdr: started qemu . what should it do. its showing some numbers with boch bochs14:07
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sydneyOk,i have been having some graphics card issues lately.I am using proprietary driver 304. If i roll back to 173,then reinstall 304,will htat fix some of my problems?14:16
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Guest48378Symphonym, (constant basis = "scheduled" appearance?) I'd search the culprit with a network monitoring tool (some incoming/outgoing service like mail, "hidden" reporting/updating tools and the like). - Also I'd check my network environment for machines with a changed traffic profile (all traffic goes through one point and bandwith is shared)14:18
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sydneyMy screen has lines when i resume from standby sometimes,and sometimes the resolution is off.14:19
SymphonymGuest48378 Now that you mention it, these spikes feel a bit too regular. Might actually be something I'm unaware of that performs some expensive internet scan, any simple monitoring tool you can recommend?14:19
hebz0rlhi im managing a large thinclient system and wanted to collect apport crash reports and was wondering what the best way would be to do so.14:20
Guest48378Symphonym, an overview => http://www.brighthub.com/computing/linux/articles/123515.aspx14:22
Guest48378Symphonym, I'd take a little time and go with WireShark.14:23
SymphonymGuest48378 I'm trying out Wireshark, will report what I find.14:23
nexa3hello14:25
nexa3how r u?14:25
sydneyHi!! Great!!14:25
sydneyAnyone have anything for me to try?14:25
SymphonymGuest48378 I only seem to be able to capture traffic from bluetooth, which I doubt is the problem in this case.14:28
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newbeehi14:29
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Guest48378Symphonym, there is also Kismet as a dedicated WIreless Packet Sniffer (Also there is good online documentation for configuring your machine and Wireshark for wireless). - On the other hand you could use simplier methods.14:30
SymphonymGuest48378 Fair enough, but I believe I solved the issue with Wireshark not listing enough interfaces; did not run it in superuser mode14:31
orbisvicishow do I unmount without removing the device nodes14:31
Guest48378Symphonym, all good then ... ;)14:32
orbisvicisfor example, usb-device/partition1 is automounted when I plug it in, but when I unmount it the respective /dev/usb-device-partition-1 block file is removed14:32
orbisvicisso I can no longer use gparted to say... resize it14:32
vltorbisvicis: umount14:34
vltorbisvicis: `umount /dev/usb-device-partition-1` or `umount /media/you/something`14:35
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orbisvicisvlt: yes thats what I mean, after "umount /dev/usb-device-partition-1" "/dev/usb-device-partition-1" no longer exists14:37
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shunya_chakrais ubuntu got different gnome?14:38
ldiamondBy default ubuntu has Unity14:38
nexa3how are you all14:38
ldiamondyou can install gnome, lxde, xfce, kde, openbox, etc in its place.14:39
orbisvicisshunya_chakra: slightly yes. some control panel options are different. not sure if just older version, or custom ubuntu-gnome patches. and the default app list has been ubuntified.14:39
nexa3does anybody interest in football world cup?14:39
bcvery!ot | nexa314:39
ubottunexa3: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:39
shunya_chakraldiamond, orbisvicis, i think last month i read .. there ubuntu gnome... and it' maintained by ... ubuntu14:40
shunya_chakrais it different from our main gnome14:40
nexa3i think it is different14:40
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shunya_chakranexa3, hm, so if i install gnome which will i get ubuntu gnome or main gnome?14:41
ldiamondshunya_chakra, mint created their own fork of gnome to look like gnome 214:41
orbisvicisthe ubuntu gnome packages are provided by ubuntu maintainers, but the ubuntu-gnome derivative isn't14:41
phunyguyshunya_chakra, depends on if you apt-get install ubuntu-gnome or gnome-shell14:41
ldiamondshunya_chakra, on ubuntu you have gnome-panel (or a new name now maybe)14:42
nexa3i don't install it yet14:42
phunyguyit is the same as installing xubuntu-desktop, or xfce414:42
phunyguyyou get ubuntu branded, or stock.14:42
nexa3but i heard that from a friend14:42
Guest48378Symphonym, even more tools for you => http://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-linux.html14:42
shunya_chakraI think it's better to stay at Unity! :) lot of desktop enviornmet14:43
SymphonymGuest48378 Thanks, although with Wireshark I'm not sure I'm seeing these spikes. All packets have a constant delta time between them :/14:44
linux_Забавно14:44
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linux_Думал ирка вымерла вместе с аськой14:45
vlt!ru | linux_14:45
ubottulinux_: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.14:45
ldiamondAnyone else is having issues with Flash on chrome lately? It keeps crashing and makes pages display freeze when scrolling.14:46
shunya_chakraldiamond, amazing, mint i haven't used it... I just currently shifted to ubuntu!14:46
SymphonymGuest48378 Actually I might be wrong, I forgot that the delta values are in seconds I just found a few guys taking 4 seconds to deliver, time to investigate.14:47
ldiamondshunya_chakra, ubuntu is just fine honestly. Once you get used to it, you could install the server version and install lxde only. You can then install only the browser and email client you need and leave all the ubuntu-desktop shtuff out.14:47
Guest48378Symphonym, okay, I'd use a graphical monitoring tool with a time axis, showing the peeks visualized. - Also, you could activate the firewall in such a way, that only the ports minimum needed are open for your purpose and then evaluate for 1 or 2 days?14:47
skinuxHow much disk space is usually used by Ubuntu out-of-the-box?14:48
shunya_chakraldiamond, I definitly going to try that!14:48
ldiamondskinux, is that because you don't have much space available?14:49
ldiamondskinux, It really depends what version you install and what packages you install14:50
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ldiamondskinux, a ubuntu desktop install should work in ~5GB14:50
jango42skinux 8gb from memory but 20 gb or more is better14:50
SymphonymGuest48378 I found a packet containing text with "Microsoft Peer Name Resolution Protocol" which are sent with pretty set intervalls, these packets take 3-4 seconds14:50
mexi_d3skinux, On my system I have 7.4GB used, and I have added a lot of stuff. When installed it was around 5.14:51
SymphonymGuest48378 Is there a chance this is actually skype?14:52
mexi_d3skinux, Ubuntu will typically create a swap file equal to the size of main memory, in addition to that.14:52
Guest48378Symphonym, yes, nothing special => https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer_Name_Resolution_Protocol14:52
jango42Aymphonym are they Arp Pakets ?14:52
Symphonymjango42 no idea, all it says is SSDP if that's of any matter.14:53
jango42Address Resolution Protocla Packets14:53
SymphonymGuest48378 I'll look up a graphical tool to see if I can get more data/info14:53
jango42Symphonym you can use the filter in wire shark to check14:56
orbisvicisexit14:56
maddawg3interestingly i was trying to use wireshark to see traffic from my server to clients14:58
sagatboa tarde14:58
maddawg3mainly i was trying to spot all the www traffic to my apache server14:58
maddawg3but it didnt pick anything up at all14:58
john_doe_jrI have a bash script that attempts to do a mkdir /path/to/dir but I keep getting asked "The directory does not exist, would you like to create it?"..since I run the script several times I don't want to be asked this…how do I prevent this from happening?14:59
maddawg3etherape on the other hand did... and even told me the bandwidth each protocol and client was using14:59
sagatalguem ai poderia  me dizer como faço para saber mais sobre esse canal ja que sou usuŕio ubuntu linux a anos e gostaria de compartilhar do meu conhecimento14:59
SamwiseGamgeeWhat are the lightweight Linux-based operating systems like Xubuntu?  Can you name them?14:59
nullPointer#cucuk14:59
SamwiseGamgeeSomeone told me I should install them onto my AMD Athlon PC, because itś about ten years old and only has 511 MB of RAM15:00
Cogito4816Hey, guys.  I'm trying to find a replacement for TrueCrypt, and I've been told that LUKS / dm-crypt is the way to go for Ubuntu.  I've heard that you can make encrypted files to store data (i.e. video files, documents, etc.), but I'm not sure how to do this.  Does anyone know?  If so, can you walk me through it from the beginning?15:00
Guest48378Symphonym, for a first look, you could use iftop (no graphics) or nethogs => http://askubuntu.com/questions/2411/how-do-i-find-out-which-process-is-eating-up-my-bandwidth15:01
compdocSamwiseGamgee, you should recycle that system and let it rest in peace15:01
Cogito4816I've already got full-disk encryption set up, but I'd like to set up encrypted files like how TrueCrypt does15:01
SymphonymGuest48378 Trying out nethogs now15:02
SamwiseGamgeeXubuntu says I need 512 MB of memory.  Are they referring to my RAM memory?15:03
maddawg3john_doe_jr what happens if you use mkdir -p to make the directory15:03
seanhHey, I'm developing against a web service that is redirecting browsers to https://lcoalhost:8080. This should be localhost, but the service is out of my control and I can't fix it. So I've put `127.0.0.1 lcoalhost` in my /etc/hosts file and now http://lcoalhost:8080 resolves to my web app running on localhost. But https://lcoalhost:8080/ gives me an ssl_error_rx_record_too_long error in Firefox. Any idea if I can get round this?15:03
maddawg3that tells it to make the parent directory in the command15:03
john_doe_jrmaddawg: it continues to ask me15:04
Cogito4816Anybody15:04
maddawg3seanh that sounds like a reverse proxy15:04
bcvery!patience | Cogito481615:05
ubottuCogito4816: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/15:05
maddawg3the apache server is doing a reverse proxy to a service running on port 808015:05
john_doe_jrmaddawg: I'm calling it as a variable in bash … mkdir $LOCATION  ….I run it and it asks me15:05
maddawg3but is the command you are running including -p?15:05
john_doe_jrmaddawg: I've tried both15:06
maddawg3john_doe_jr: interesting.. not sure why... i know when i run it manually it doesnt say that15:08
maddawg3like without being in a script15:08
john_doe_jrmaddawg: same thing….from the command line it's fine15:08
Maceri have an amd a10 on an msi board and when the system is asleep for a while the networking and bt devices die until reboot15:09
nashantHey. I've just installed server 14.04 and it gets part way through booting and then the console hangs (init: plymouth-upstart-bridge main process ended, respawning). But SSH still works. I've tried adding noplymouth to grub defaults but no joy. Any ideas?15:09
Maceranybody have any experience with this?15:09
Macernashant: are you sure it hung? press enter and see if it goes to login15:09
nashantMacer: Nope. hung15:09
Maceri think i get a similar warning when i start my ubuntu server up.. there is an #ubuntu-server channel tho15:10
Macermaybe they might be able to help more15:10
nashantI'll give it a go, cheers15:10
Macersorry. but i know i had something similar. but my console didn't hang completely15:10
Fritzenduganquestion: when a proprietary driver is listed in "additional drivers" as "(proprietary, tested)" does this mean that specific driver was tested with my specific detected graphics hardware? Or just that the driver was tested with Ubuntu on some arbitrary hardware?15:11
holsteinFritzendugan: just "tested".. you cant expect testers to have tested with your specific graphics hardware..15:12
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Macerhm. i have to find out what is going on with this coming out of suspend15:13
SymphonymGuest48378 Neither iftop or nethogs made me any wiser on the issue :/ I'll try to find something with a solid GUI graph, should hopefully be visible there15:13
Fritzenduganholstein, I mean, there are only so many NVIDIA GPUs, and a couple are used more commonly than others, I don't think it's that unrealistic of a question. Anyway, so "tested" is just some ambiguous identifier that means "tested at some point on some hardware?"15:13
Macerthe onboard networking and bluetooth just don't come back up15:13
Macerit's odd15:13
Maceri have to reboot for them to work again15:13
Macer:/15:13
Macerwhich defeats the purpose of suspending15:14
maddawg3is 14.04 LTS yet?15:14
holsteinFritzendugan: could mean, not tested on hardware at all15:14
maddawg3i only use the latest LTS version on my servers15:15
maddawg3unless it's just for testing15:15
holsteinFritzendugan: the code comes "as-is", from nvidia.. could be it was tested to build against the kernel, and not tested in any way with hardware at all15:15
maddawg3but np production servers have anything other than lts15:15
holsteinmaddawg3: 14.04 was always a long term support.. LTS15:15
mexi_d3maddawg3, It is an LTS but the .1 isn't out, so I do not think Precise will upgrade without -d15:15
holstein!14.0415:15
ubottuUbuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download at http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04 - Read the release notes at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes15:15
maddawg3ah15:16
Fritzenduganholstein, I see. So what's the deal with all the drivers that don't say tested? They weren't tested at all? Seems kind of hard to believe15:16
maddawg3i did not know that15:16
maddawg3i'm still on 12.0415:16
nashantMacer: for future reference, nomodeset issue15:16
mexi_d3maddawg3, And Precise 12.04 is showing no upgrade?15:16
maddawg3beats me... didnt try15:16
holsteinFritzendugan: what drivers are listed "untested" ?15:16
maddawg3lol i dont do auto updates15:16
holsteinmaddawg3: 12.04 will be naturally offered the upgrade at the 14.04.1 release15:17
mexi_d3maddawg3, If you have LTS turned on, it won't show updates until July or so when SRU #1 arrives.15:17
Fritzenduganholstein, none are specifically listed "untested" but there are a couple, mostly legacy, which don't have the "tested" identifier. They simply say "(proprietary)"15:17
Fritzenduganonly one driver actually says tested15:17
holsteinFritzendugan: legacy is just that.. legacy.. for older hardware15:17
maddawg3cool.. well i dont plan to upgrade my servers to it15:17
maddawg3might do my desktop build tho15:17
holsteinmaddawg3: you can15:17
Fritzenduganholstein, yes, I understand that. Maybe I'm not being clear: my question is what decides which drivers get listed as "tested" and which don't.15:18
maddawg3i will eventually upgrade the servers but i always test it first because i cant afford to have my servers go down on me15:18
holsteinFritzendugan: there should be none, as you say, that are marked "untested"15:18
mexi_d3maddawg3, I see zero reason to upgrade a server so long as precise is performing adequately and is still supported/15:18
maddawg3mexi_d3 sometimes for security patches15:19
maddawg3granted for the most part you can get those with older versions15:19
holsteinmaddawg3: 12.04 gets security patches, so not15:19
Fritzenduganholstein, Like I said, none are specifically marked "untested." However, only one driver is explicitly marked as "(proprietary, tested)" the rest just say "(proprietary)"15:19
maddawg3yes holstein hence why i wont upgrade yet15:19
holsteinmaddawg3: the reason would be, for the newer version.. 14.04.. not security patches15:19
Fritzenduganholstein, my question is what's the difference15:19
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holsteinFritzendugan: i usually just try them, and see what works best for my hardware.. they just come in as is15:20
maddawg3but EVENTUALLY i bet upgrading will be either beneficial in some way or not15:20
maddawg3rather it will be beneficial or required i meant to say15:20
holsteinmaddawg3: it will be when 12.04 stops providing security updates, and you want them.. or you want the newer version15:20
Fritzenduganholstein, what kind of metrics do you use for deciding which is best? I don't seem to notice much of a difference between them.15:20
maddawg3yes15:20
maddawg3pricesly15:20
holsteinFritzendugan: i literally load them up, and see for myself, on my hardware.. we are typically not promised any level of linux support for those, so, basically, i try and do what a company would do for windows15:21
holsteinFritzendugan: you would pay dell to do the research and provide you with the "best" driver for windows.. you are basically taking that reponsibility on yourself to run linux, or any operating system the company doesnt specificially support.. it can be a challenge15:22
maddawg3 i just got a really sweet dedicated server for pretty cheap money15:22
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maddawg3running vmware esxi on it with 2 instances of ubuntu and 3 of windows15:22
Fritzenduganholstein, so what kinds of things do you do when you're trying to test the driver? I don't really notice a difference. Are there any benchmarks or anything I can run?15:23
maddawg3wish it offered more than 4TB of storage tho15:23
holsteinFritzendugan: sure.. but, i usually just use it, and see15:23
holsteinFritzendugan: if i want to game, i test a game.. if i want power management, i test that..15:23
ActionParsnipmaddawg3: add a new controller15:24
maddawg3ActionParsnip what?15:24
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ActionParsnipmaddawg3: if you want more staorage, add a new storage controller15:25
maddawg3it's a server i rent15:25
maddawg3i'm talking about a dedi... we arent given physical access to it15:25
ActionParsnipmaddawg3: oh, I thought you owned it15:25
maddawg3no15:25
maddawg3unfortunately15:25
maddawg3i am trying to find a colo that can give me some rack space for cheap money15:25
holsteinmaddawg3: then, move to one that offers more15:25
maddawg3holstein havent found one at an affordable cost15:26
maddawg3i pay $52 for what i have15:26
maddawg34TB, Intel XEON 3.4Ghz 4c/8t15:26
OerHekspay more get more, law of pay ... errr, law of more15:26
maddawg332GB of RAM15:26
maddawg3yes but the difference is astronomical15:26
maddawg3like we're talking for 8TB over $200 a month15:26
holsteinmaddawg3: "affordable" will be a matter of opinion.. if you need more, get it.. if you dont.. dont..15:27
maddawg3that's a big jump t15:27
Fritzenduganmaddawg3, $52 a month?15:27
maddawg3ummmm... duh15:27
maddawg3holstein that is generally how it works15:27
maddawg3hence why i dont have more15:27
holsteinmaddawg3: please use the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for chat.. thanks15:27
maddawg3all i was saying was that i wish the dedi i got OFFERED more.. I'd gladly pay more if they offered more15:27
maddawg3other than that they are great15:28
Fritzenduganmaddawg3, not sure why it's necessary for you to say duh, but thanks. What provider are you using?15:28
skinuxWell, I installed Trusty Trahr onto a 30G partition, but out-of-the-box it seems to take up 20G.15:28
maddawg3that was not directed to you fritzendugan15:28
maddawg3sorry15:28
mexi_d3skinux, What does "df -h" say in terminal?15:28
Fritzenduganmaddawg3, it's cool. "dendi" is that who you're using?15:28
maddawg3it just came in after your message... I use SoYouStart (It's an OVH company)15:28
Fritzenduganmaddawg3, "SoYouStart" ok thanks, gonna check them out15:29
whoeverhi all, I am currently booding with a machanical drive, if I swich to ssd will I still notice a speed increase (the drive would only hold the OS)  and file storage is on a machanical drive ?15:30
maddawg3whoever, yes15:30
FritzenduganLooks like most of their offerings are currently sold out :( Still, that's not bad for the hardware you're getting15:31
ActionParsnipwhoever: yes, the seek time is near zero as opposed to a platter based drive15:31
orbisvicishow do I update grub so that os-prober is run ?15:31
maddawg3yea what ActionParsnip said...15:32
ActionParsniporbisvicis: sudo update-grub15:32
orbisvicis(update-grub... didn't run os prober, i think)15:32
maddawg3i just upgraded my laptop to an SSD and then kept my 1TB sata as a secondary internal drive15:32
maddawg3they now have a 4TB SSD15:33
maddawg3but way to expensive15:33
ActionParsnipwhoever: after a while, the disk cache in RAM will be setup and you'll probably find it runs at only slightly faster than the platter based drive. Depends how much RAM you have really15:33
maddawg3that and also the speed of the port15:33
maddawg3sata for example is 3 or 6gb/s15:33
maddawg3depending on what speed you have for that15:33
Fritzenduganwhoever, everything won't be instant, but compared to hdds, you'll notice significant improvements in boot-up times and application load times (if the apps are on your ssd). Managing directories/mount-points can be slightly more complicated, and also, if you're like me, you'll get addicted to the load times and soon you'll want all your software on your ssd, and it can fill up fast, depending on how large an SSD you get.15:34
Fritzenduganespecially if you game15:34
whoeverFritzendugan: 125GB ssd, so it would definetly be able to hold the OS and apps15:35
whoeverActionParsnip: 8GB ram, my system I realy have to try to use more then 4GB at a time15:36
Fritzenduganwhoever, definitely hold the OS, and definitely hold all your apps, as long as you don't install a lot of games. If you have a large steam library and lots of games, for instance, you will definitely fill that up.15:36
whoeverFritzendugan: I am not a hard core gamer, i do mostly programming15:37
Fritzenduganwhoever, you can always install some games on your hard-drive if you start filling up too fast though, so no worries really15:37
Fritzenduganwhoever, then yeah I'm sure you'll be fine. You'll definitely notice significant performance improvements15:37
whoeverFritzendugan: so i am currently booting with 7200RPM with 16MB cach drive, =15:38
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Fritzenduganwhoever, I don't know if you use eclipse, but the first time I booted up eclipse on my ssd I was just like "wow, who knew eclipse could be this fast"15:38
whoeverFritzendugan: is this one of those things that really can't be explaind, and you have to get one and try it out ?15:39
whoeverFritzendugan: no i use IDEA15:39
Fritzenduganwhoever, kind of. I mean basically your OS will load faster and your programs will start up faster. That's the gist15:39
orbisvicisActionParsnip: hmm running os-prober doesn't recognize the new linux partition I've created (just containing vmlinuz, initrd, and squashfs file). Also doesn't recognize the current ubuntu partition, so it appears broken ?15:39
whoeverFritzendugan: you wanna load intelij IDEA and oooh and aw .. its faster then eclips15:41
SymphonymGuest48378 I can't manage to find the issue, the spikes doesn't really show in other monitoring program it's only clearly visible in the ping command15:41
Fritzenduganwhoever, the way I set up my partitions/mounts: / and swap are on my SSD, and /home is on my hdd. There might be better ways, and there is some debate as to the utility of specifying a swap partition when you have lots of RAM. Others might be able to give you different/better advice on how to set up your partitions/mount-points15:41
Fritzenduganwhoever, haha nah, I rarely use eclipse anyway. I mostly just use sublime and command-line tools. I use eclipse in the rare event I'm doing some java development.15:41
whoeverFritzendugan: ok, now do i need to do any bios setting so that i can use the ssd15:43
whoeverFritzendugan: what is the trim that I have seen so many talk about15:43
rkdemonDoes anyone know where to get libssh2 for ubuntu trusty ?15:43
OerHeks!trim15:43
ubottuMany Solid State Drives support TRIM, which allows the drive to do garbage collection and improves performance. Ubuntu 14.04 activates it by default. For older versions, see http://askubuntu.com/a/19480 for information on activating it.15:43
LaxIs there a tool on the live CD that will let me check the health/state of a SSD drive?  My 14.04 install had a crash and now it will not boot with the message of "BOOT DISK FAILURE", and the reinstall is also failing.  Its a new SSD (<2months old) but Im wondering if it failed?15:44
OerHeks!find libssh215:44
ubottuFound: libssh2-1, libssh2-1-dbg, libssh2-1-dev, libssh2-php, python-libssh215:44
Fritzenduganwhoever, trim is basically some fancy firmware stuff that helps the SSD more optimally run, basically. You can read about it on wikipedia if you want more info. TRIM support is pretty much ubiquitous at this point, so not much to worry about.15:44
Fritzenduganwhoever, as for bios settings, it depends on your set-up. I didn't have to change anything in my bios15:44
natewalckMorning15:45
natewalckAnyone here use ZFS on Ubuntu15:45
whoeverFritzendugan: oh, because a few years back most seemed to have to make setting changes just to use it, so now its though it in your box and image15:45
Fritzenduganwhoever, yeah, early days of ssds and raid and sata and all that jazz could get messy with the bios. If it's a decently new mainboard (~3 years or so) everything should be pretty much setup already or automatic. There are tons of guides online though if you hit any snares, so I wouldn't worry about it. Since SSDs are so mainstream now, any trouble you run into somebody likely already hit the same roadblocks15:47
whoeverFritzendugan: ok, my last main concern if drive failure, hdd that is set up for boot will fail just out of warrenty15:50
natewalckAlso, is it safe to install ubuntu to a USB drive15:51
natewalckand run it from there?15:51
natewalckor will the read/writes kill the drive15:51
Nach0znatewalck: strictly speaking it'll work. if you get a high-quality flash drive it'd probably last a long time15:52
natewalckNach0z: Is there an appliance-mode type of install?15:52
Nach0zmight be worth looking into portable XHDDs though15:52
natewalckwhere it loads everything into memory upon boot to reduce writes15:52
Nach0zI really dunno, sorry. Last I checked though, it does load a lot of stuff into memory but Ubuntu really doesn't write that much stuff to disk on its own IIRC15:52
natewalckno worries15:53
natewalckand if that is the case15:53
natewalckthat should work out just fine15:53
natewalckI plan on having all the config in puppet, so even if the USB drive blows up, it will be trivial to replace15:53
Macerugh15:54
Macerwhy must msi force you to use a windows app to update the bios?15:54
Macerseriously15:54
* Macer is trying to find a way to do this without windows but there doesn't seem to be one15:54
* Macer facepalms15:54
Macermaybe i can install win7 onto a thumb drive for moments like this15:54
OerHeksMacer,  does the bios not give you ma update tool from usb?15:55
Macerit does.. but msi doesn't give you an update img15:55
Macertheir site has a .exe that you're supposed to run in windows15:55
Macerand i can't seem to find a way to download just the img to flash it from a thumb drive :/15:56
Macerit's insanity15:56
orbisvicishad to run "mkdir -p ./lib/ld.so.conf.d/" to get os-prober to recognize it as a linux partition15:56
Macerhttp://www.msi.com/support/mb/FM2A75IAE53.html#down-bios <- that's my motherboard15:56
OerHeksMacer, maybe freedos is a solution15:57
whoeverFritzendugan: so i guess my question is longevity releability15:57
slahhello everybody15:57
holsteinMacer: you can try any update tools in wine, but, i would do what the manufacturer suggests.. or, what most folks suggest, which is, dont mess with the bios unless mandatory15:57
Macerholstein: well i think it is. there seems to be a bug with the onboad networking on this boad15:58
Macerboard15:58
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holsteinMacer: nothing about ubuntu or linux is preventing them from providing you a way to update your bios, though, there is little we are allowed to do to facilitate that15:58
Maceri had issues in windows as well.. where the networking (eth and wifi) and bt would just die15:58
Macerholstein: yeah.. .it's MSI's fault :/15:58
Macerthey just want to make sure the catlle don't send their motherboards back heh15:58
Macercattle15:58
holsteinMacer: its actually no one's "fault".. you are just trying to do something contrary to the directions15:59
Macerholstein: update the bios outside of windows? ;)15:59
holsteinMacer: they never promised you could do so15:59
Macerholstein: in my experience MSI always provided img files to update the bios. don't know what changed.15:59
* Macer points above to people mis-flashing their bios15:59
Macerah well. i'll just make a windows 7 thumb drive that boots if i can heh16:00
Macerseems like the easiest solution for problems like these16:00
holsteinMacer: nothing about ubuntu will prevent that.. but, you will want to check with the creators of windows for restrictions16:00
Fritzenduganwhoever, It really depends. I'd always recommend keeping multiple backups of important data. Obviously you should be using version control already for any code you're working on (maybe backed up to github or bitbucket or something). As for documents something like Google Drive or Dropbox might be good. For movies/music/etc. a networked storage device or an external hard drive might be helpful.16:00
holsteinMacer: we are not sure that this addresses the issue anyways.. you are assuming a bios upgrade is a "fix"..16:01
mexi_d3I'm trying to login to help.ubuntu.com to fix something on the ubuntu help wiki, and it appears the site is having problems. Am I the only one?16:01
Fritzenduganwhoever, as for the question of which will last longer, an SSD or a HDD that also depends. The "less full" the SSD is, the more it can wear-level itself, and the longer it will last. So, put simply, larger SSDs will last longer. I've read online of people using SSDs and they fail after a few months. Personally, I have an SSD I've been using for more than 2 years with no issues at all. It just depends.16:02
jango42mexi_d3 it was hacked a while back dont know the current status16:02
holsteinmexi_d3: seems like, yes, you are the only one.. http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/help.ubuntu.com16:02
whoeverFritzendugan: have you used the crucial mx10016:02
Macerholstein: i would say it is. the bios is outdated and has another awesome bug where you press esc to save and it crashes :)16:03
Macermy other system has the same motherboard but bought later16:03
Fritzenduganwhoever, I have not. I'm using an intel drive, and my friends have used OCZ and Samsung. I've heard good things about the newer Crucial drives, though. Pro-tip, regardless of where you're buying hardware, do a product search on Newegg and read the reviews. They're usually very good.16:03
Macerand it doesn't have the networking issue16:03
whoeverFritzendugan: ah so in tems of longevity it is still a crap shoot16:03
Macerholstein: plus it's just a bios update. no harm no foul. best to eliminate it as a possibility regardless16:04
Fritzenduganwhoever, I wouldn't say it's a "crap shoot." exactly. Some HDDs can last a very long time, some do not. Some SSDs last a very long time, some do not. Hopefully my SSD will keep kicking for many years! But time will tell.16:04
whoeverFritzendugan: i have checked in #hardware and  crucial mx100 seems to bee one of the better ones16:04
mexi_d3If a page on ubuntu wiki is listed as immutable but requires updating, who do I contact?16:05
whoeverFritzendugan: are there any warning signs of ssd failure  or will it just die16:05
Fritzenduganwhoever, I will say in something like a laptop that might be accidentally dropped or shaken a lot, a SSD will likely do better than a HDD, the latter has moving parts that might not do well with the physical shock.16:05
mexi_d3whoever, I recommend over-provisioning if you are worried about that.16:06
Simpson_2which part of 'service' controls the screen output which shows [fail] or [OK] ? I'm trying to write a script for a service16:07
Fritzenduganwhoever, as for warning signs, I'm not sure. I've never experienced a bad SSD, myself.16:07
whoevermexi_d3: i am asking all these questions because i do have a working hdd now, and if i do decide to get an ssd, are there  any warning signs of failure16:07
llutzwhoever: you may ask in #hardware, this is ubuntu-support16:08
holsteinMacer: typically, there actually *can* be harm and foul, which is why most agree to not update the bios unless mandatory16:08
Macerholstein: heh. understood.16:09
holsteinwhoever: *all* hard drives fail.. you should always plan and expect them all to fail, as they will, and have good backups.. not matter what technology16:09
Guest48378Symphonym, sorry for being late. - I'm out of ideas. - You could isolate your machine and your router as the only members in your lan (i. e. no Android smart phone etc.) and/or also switch off the wireless network. - Then restart the router and the machine and use a wired connection to test the pings/playing experience?16:09
TrudkoGuys I would like to automate building of atom https://github.com/atom/atom/blob/master/docs/build-instructions/linux.md lets say I would like to have new version of Atom everytime I start ubuntu what is best way to do that?16:12
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Trudkosimple shell script might be enough right?16:12
drexhow do i specify an alternate location to /var/crash for dump files created by linux-crashdump ?16:13
ActionParsnipTrudko: I'd say so, yes16:14
holsteinTrudko: you could get it in upstream debian, which would feed ubuntu packages, and come in in normal updates when the packages are in.. you could put them in ubuntu. you could personally create and maintain a PPA.. you could script something manually, though, i would want to know what breakages could happen16:14
drexon centos, you can specify in /etc/kdump.conf , but it doesn't exist on ubuntu16:14
Volontariciao16:14
Volontari!list16:14
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Trudkoholstein: what is the easiest way?16:14
holsteinTrudko: "easy" will be a matter of opinion, and use case.. if whatever you are pulling from breaks in the script, you may prefer a PPA, though, maintaining that one's self may not be preferred..16:15
Trudkoholstein: well i dont mind if what i donwload from github would be broken16:16
holsteini think it would be easy if it were upstream and just updating the system updated the package.. but, that would also take some work16:16
TrudkoI will ask on #atom too maybe there got some recomendation too16:17
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setuidI have a directory ~/.shotwell/thumbs/thumbs360/ that is absolutely empty (verified with 'ls -lart' from root), and I can't remove it, because Linux claims it's not empty16:19
maekis it possible to make 1 upstart service start another and/or depend on it?16:19
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holsteinsetuid: you should be able to carefully sudo remove it with a command, regardless of what it has in it16:20
setuidholstein, Nope, no can do... tried sudo. I can mv it to another name/place on the same filesystem, but can't move it to /tmp/ nor remove it.16:20
setuidit's 100% empty, du -bsc verifies this16:20
holsteinsetuid: give the entire output..16:20
setuidthere's no hidden files, nothing at all in it16:20
holstein!paste | setuid16:20
ubottusetuid: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.16:20
setuidCan't paste, apparently my clipboard is non-functional16:21
setuidI'll manually type it all out16:21
holsteinsetuid: http://askubuntu.com/questions/217893/how-to-delete-a-non-empty-directory-in-terminal explains.. there is a command that you need to be careful with that can remove it16:22
holsteinsetuid: i suggest reading the entire post, which explains the issue, and potential danger16:22
setuidholstein, I've been using Linux since the late 90's, I'm very used to deleting directories, empty and otherwise, this one has me stumped.16:23
holsteinsetuid: what is the *exact* command you are using? friend?16:23
ActionParsnipsetuid: is the filesystem mounted readonly?16:23
setuidI'm thinking some low-level XFS + encrypted $HOME corruption of some sort16:23
setuidlike a dirent is broken16:23
setuidActionParsnip, Nope, I can create and delete files IN that directory, just can't remove the dir itself16:24
ActionParsnipsetuid: sudo rm -r ~/.shotwell/thumbs/thumbs360       is the command you need16:24
setuidActionParsnip, Yep, run that and dozens of other commands to try to figure it out, remove it, none work16:24
ActionParsnipsetuid: who is the owner of the folder?16:24
setuidall report the dir is non-empty16:24
setuidActionParsnip, I own it, 'setuid'16:24
ActionParsnipsetuid: owner and group owner16:24
sysmonthat's the exact output?16:24
ActionParsnipsetuid: can you chown it to nobody:nobody ?16:24
llutzsetuid: check lsattr16:25
sysmonhave you check the attributes?16:25
setuidYep and yep, I can do everything to it, but remove it16:25
ActionParsnipllutz: nice16:25
setuidattrs are fine, facl, chattr are all correct16:25
holsteinsetuid: what is the exact error from the command ActionParsnip gave?16:25
sysmonwhats the exact error again?16:25
setuidholstein, I can't paste, so let me manually type that in: One sec16:26
holstein!pastebinit16:26
ubottupastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com16:26
setuidholstein, I can't PASTE, not into xchat, not into a browser. Ubuntu's clipboard is broken.16:26
ActionParsnipsetuid: try:    sudo chattr -i ~/.shotwell/thumbs/thumbs36016:26
setuidSo let me type this all in by hand16:26
setuidActionParsnip, Been there, done that, doesn't help16:26
holsteinsetuid: ok.. !pastebinit explains how to share that information *without* being able to paste16:26
ActionParsnipsetuid: if you chown to nobody:nobody    can it be deleted then? does the chown stick?16:27
holsteinsetuid: if many system resources are broken, you could have a failing hard drive16:27
ActionParsnipsetuid: what file system is the folder on?16:27
sysmonjust type the exact error.16:27
setuidActionParsnip, Nope, chown + rm -rvf does not wrok16:27
setuidholstein, ~5 month old SSD drive, likely not broken16:27
ActionParsnipsetuid: what file system is the folder on?16:27
holsteinsetuid: *all* drives fail16:27
setuid$ sudo rm -rfv /home/setuid/.shotwell/thumbs/thumbs36016:28
setuidrm: cannot remove directory '/home/setuid/.shotwell/thumbs/thumbs360': Directory not empty16:28
ActionParsnipsetuid: never had a DOA drive?16:28
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setuidActionParsnip, many times16:28
llutzsetuid: umount, fsck16:28
ActionParsnipsetuid: then it being new is irrelevant then, isnt it16:28
setuidllutz, /home is ecryptfs16:29
setuidso how do I decrypt (as root) and fsck that?16:29
ActionParsnipsetuid: tried rmdir  instead of rm ?16:30
drexanyone know where to configure an alternate location for kernel crash dumps besides /var/crash ?16:30
setuid/dev/mapper/sda3_crypt on / type xfs (rw,noatime,discard)16:30
setuidActionParsnip, Yes16:30
llutzdrex: /etc/default/kdump* maybe?16:30
setuidI'll try a reboot and xfs_repair on this16:30
setuidback shortly16:30
jmaderoanyone around using Gnome on top of Ubuntu?16:32
xangua!ask | jmadero16:33
pavlosjmadero, running 12.04 with classic gnome16:33
ubottujmadero: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience16:33
jmaderoyes - apologies :) anyone know how to turn off the crappy screenlock in Gnome3 - for me in settings -> privacy it's grayed out16:33
jmaderoso I can't turn it off16:33
jmaderoI like to conserve energy but having to type my long password every 60 seconds becomes irritating16:34
drexllutz: that doesn't exist and i cant find a man page about it16:35
llutz!info kdump-tools | drex:16:36
ubottudrex:: kdump-tools (source: makedumpfile): scripts and tools for automating kdump (Linux crash dumps). In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.5-2ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 12 kB, installed size 80 kB16:36
llutzdrex: that seems to be needed. KDUMP_COREDIR="/yourpath/"   sets the new location then (iirc)16:37
drexah, thanks16:37
drexill try installing that16:37
drexi just grabbed linux-crashdump only initially16:37
drexllutz: package doesn't exist in the Lucid repo =[16:39
wilee-nileejmadero, I just came on the channel, curious why your having to use the password every 60 seconds.16:39
wilee-nileeon to*16:40
jmaderowilee-nilee: I like my monitor turning off after 60 seconds to conserve energy but the stupid gnome lock screen keeps coming on16:40
jmaderoand I can't turn it off through settings -> privacy (it's locked out)16:40
wilee-nileejmadero,  Tis 12.0416:40
wilee-nileethis*16:40
jmadero14.0416:40
keevitajahello, does anyone have working installation of wine with cups printing support installed. i'd like to see the win.ini file16:40
wilee-nileejmadero, Go to the power setting and set the screen to a higher time.16:41
jmaderowilee-nilee: the point is I want the monitor off after 1 minute16:41
jmaderoI just don't want the lock screen on16:41
dreamonhey. want to buy a new notebook with HD 8750M graphic chip. anybody know that it works?16:42
wilee-nileejmadero, you can turn that off, THAT IS THE POINT.16:42
jmaderohm - or I can leave Gnome if something so simple is broken ;)16:42
sydneyjmadero: isnt that under brightness and lock?16:42
jmaderoUnity works fine16:42
phunyguydreamon, AMD graphics?16:42
jmaderosydney: it's under privacy, but it's grayed out16:42
jmaderoand the gnome people just sent me here saying they don't deal with Ubuntu16:42
jmaderolol16:42
dreamonphunyguy, yes16:42
phunyguydreamon, do you need powerful graphics?16:43
jmaderobeing able to disable a lock screen requiring a password is pretty basic functionality :-/16:43
dreamonphunyguy, Sometime I would like to blender. but if it work in later days it wont mind16:43
wilee-nileejmadero, your attitude and  gets you a free ignore, you are complaining like a kindergartner, GROW UP and take some responsibility.16:44
jmaderowilee-nilee: okay, your suggestion outside of wasting energy16:44
phunyguydreamon, personally, I would avoid ATI/Nvidia in Linux, as it is very hit and miss with them working correctly, and even then it is not 100%16:44
sydneyjmadero: is there a brightness and lock setting in the main settings pannel?16:44
jmaderosydney: one minute will check16:45
jmaderosydney: no there's not - I have "power" where I can control the time out time (which is what wilee-nilee wants me to do) and then there is privacy where in theory I should be able to disable the screenlock16:45
jmaderobut the settings in privacy are all grayed out16:45
dreamonphunyguy, what is left, if you dont use ATI or Nvidia? Intel ?16:45
sydneyjmadero: thats weird!?16:46
jmaderolol I know ;)16:46
jmaderoand obviously not right16:46
phunyguydreamon, yes, Intel, which has been very good for me.16:46
sydneyjmadero: I am running gnome 12.04 though.16:46
jmaderosydney: and you're running Gnome Classic right?16:46
jmaderomaybe it's a bug with Gnome316:46
sydneyjmadero: No16:46
phunyguydreamon, granted I don't do anything super intense with graphics, but I would say it is worth it if you really need it, just don't count on it being perfect.16:47
jmaderowas surprised that the gnome people just sent me away when I said I run Ubuntu16:47
jmaderothe response was "go figures, go find a Ubuntu channel"16:47
dreamonphunyguy, hmm.. all this new nvidias using hybrid/bumblee, where you can switch back to intel i think16:47
jmaderotried running system settings as sudo - with that I don't even see the privacy options any longer16:47
sydneyjmadero: I dont know hat version of ubunt ugnome i am running though?16:47
jmaderosydney: do you use gnome shell?16:47
jmaderothe "new" gnome16:47
sydneyjmadero: yes16:48
phunyguydreamon, yes that is another option but I don't know how Linux reacts in a hybrid situation like that, perhaps someone else can speak to that?16:48
jmaderoand do you see "privacy" in settings?16:48
Flolilahey there does anyone know what is going on here? am i infected with something? http://i.imgur.com/fF5z7k3.png16:48
Guest48378jmadero, could this work for you => http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/disable-screensaver-lock-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/?PageSpeed=noscript16:48
jmaderoand the options aren't grayd out?16:48
sydneyjmadero: yes,here,let me take a pic.16:48
jmaderoGuest48378: thanks!16:48
jmaderoI think that di dit16:48
jmaderono clue why GUI is locked out16:48
michaelaguiarIs there a way to set DNSMASQ to use .dev without using the hosts file, but to make is so I can use .dev instead of .dev:800016:48
jmaderoand I guess others can think I'm a whinny pain in the ... for complaining16:49
michaelaguiarso assign a port without me typing it in every time?16:49
Flolilawhat are those connections?16:49
jmaderobut seems like that resolved it16:49
phunyguyFlolila, what are we looking at here?16:49
sydneyjmadero: then i wont show pic :D16:49
Flolilai was running etherape16:49
jmaderosydney: still going to report a bug against Gnome16:49
jmaderoif they want to say Ubuntu sucks - so be it16:49
Flolilatrying to find out why my inet is so slow16:49
phunyguyFlolila, looks like a whole lot of IPv6 nonsense16:49
sydneyjmadero: Its there fo me.16:49
Flolilaok16:50
jmaderosydney: +116:50
Flolilahow can i get rid of it?16:50
jmaderothanks for those who helped16:50
phunyguyFlolila, does your ISP use IPv6?16:50
sydneyjmadero: sorry i wasnt able to. :(16:50
Flolilai have no idea16:50
jmaderosydney: no no - you tried :)16:50
phunyguyFlolila, judging by your hostmask, the answer is probably no, so that means that traffic is local to your network.16:50
jmaderoand gave useful info16:51
jmaderosydney: going to try with my 2nd user - maybe it's a configuration problem16:51
phunyguyFlolila, are you on a school network or something?16:51
jmaderowith my main user16:51
Flolilayes dorm16:51
sydneyjmadero: are you running ubuntu gnome skin on a unity install?16:51
jmaderosydney: not really a skin ;) I'm running the full DE on ubuntu16:51
phunyguyFlolila, then there is probably a lot of broadcast traffic on a poorly configured network16:51
jmaderomuch lower CPU use than Unity from my experience16:51
jmaderoI also have KDE installed16:51
phunyguyFlolila, can you pastebin the output of ifconfig?16:51
jmaderoused to have Cinnamon as well until the ppa was stopped16:51
Flolilasure one sec16:51
sydneyjmadero: same here. they stopped the ppa 2 days after i installed cinnamon!!16:52
jmaderolol bummer16:53
jmaderosydney: supposedly there is another one16:53
phunyguyahh yes, fe80::/64 is link local, Flolila, so the network you are connected to has a lot of stuff on it with IPv6 enabled and broadcasting.  You can probably disable IPv6 if you don't need it.16:53
jmaderoI haven't tried it yet16:53
lkywhello everyone, because there is a huge chance that it could save my data (read it as "my life"), I need to ask this question: can I ANYHOW get a log of my keystrokes on ubuntu ?16:53
Flolilahttp://pastebin.com/Ew642A7p16:53
sydneyjmadero: maybe16:53
Flolilathanks phunyguy can you tell me how to do this?16:53
OEPlkyw: past keystrokes?16:53
phunyguyFlolila, http://askubuntu.com/questions/309461/how-to-disable-ipv6-permanently16:54
lkywOEP, yes16:54
sydneyjmadero: I have unity,unity 2D,openbox,ubuntu Gnome,Gnome clasic,lxde,kde and xfce all on one pc. :D16:54
OEPlkyw: did you enter them into a console/shell?16:54
Flolilathanks16:54
jmaderosydney: +1 :-D I do QA testing for LibreOffice so I need multiple DE's16:54
jmaderosydney: I also use E1716:54
phunyguyFlolila, if that doesn't fix it, then get with the network admins at your school to figure out why there is so much IPv6 traffic on the network16:54
mexi_d3lkyw, From how long ago and in what application? Did you install anything special to record them?16:54
Flolilaso i dont have to worry about being infected by some virus?16:54
jmaderosydney: E17 is the fastest by far, but not flashy at all16:54
Flolilaallright16:55
Flolilathanks again!16:55
OEPlkyw: e.g. a terminal or some other application16:55
phunyguyFlolila, no, it is the IPv6 on several devices being enabled, broadcasting for an IP, not getting one, and setting one for itself... while still broadcasting.16:55
sydneyjmadero: I like lubuntu. :D16:55
jmadero:-D never tried it actually16:55
jmaderosydney: I like extra functionality - for instance with Gnome I really like integrated chat16:56
jmaderowith Unity I really like compiz (both for looks and functionality)16:56
jmaderothe only DE I haven't liked much is KDE16:56
lkywOEP, mexi_d3 sorry...I think I misconceived the situation..I am likely not to have typed, but copy-pasted. in this regard, I have to change my question: is it ANYHOW possible to get a history of "paste to clipboard" on ubuntu?16:56
phunyguyFlolila, worst case scenario, you are being singled out by a botnet of some sort by someone at the school, and it is DDoSing you16:56
Flolila:O16:57
Flolilai dont hope so16:57
phunyguybut that is not infection, that is simply denying you of services16:57
xangualkyw: just use a clipboard manager16:57
lkywOEP, mexi_d3, since 1st March, I can say.16:57
Flolilaallright16:57
sydneyjmadero: I have a few addons for gnome,but none of the newer ones. :(16:57
lkywxangua, I meant the past data16:57
phunyguyFlolila, disabling IPv6 may stop it if that is the case16:57
jmaderosydney: I use about 7 addons :-D the drop down terminal is amazing16:57
sydneyjmadero: That is only in 14.04,not 12.0416:58
OEPlkyw: I don't know enough about X internals to recover something that far back, maybe you can explain the situation a little more (such as the source of the original data) and someone can help further16:58
sydneyjmadero: I like the weather one. :D16:58
jmaderookay next question - when I fullscreen chromium when watching flash (youtube for intance) the fullscreen is wrong (see image here http://imgur.com/fCUcoIG)16:58
jmaderoas you can see it's a new window that does not cover the top gnome taskbar and it goes too far down (off screen) so I can't get to the video controls16:59
sydneyjmadero: hmm,not sure.16:59
sydneyjmadero: are you sure its the computer,and not the screen?17:00
jmaderosydney: laptop :)17:00
lkywOEP, the story is this: the password to a disk partition of mine is no more available. that password has been once copy-pasted from my keyring program (seahorse) into the nautilus password window. now it is one of my tiny chances to regain access to my partition to recover password this way17:00
sydneyjmadero: oh17:00
numeriuslol17:00
jmaderowhen I fullscreen with firefox - it's fine. But I have choppy playback with ff when playing flash videos17:00
jmaderochromium is smooth playback but can't fullscreen :)17:01
sydneyjmadero: i was just about to ask you that...17:01
jmaderoyeah for at least the past 2 years firefox is choppy for me with flash17:01
sydneyjmadero: have you ever tried google chrome?17:01
jmaderochromium is chrome basically17:01
jmaderobut I will test17:01
OEPlkyw: I take it the keyring program's data must be on the encrypted volume?17:01
lkywOEP: precisely17:01
jmaderodownloading now17:02
sydneyjmadero: no it is not.17:02
OEPhrm that's a tough one17:02
jmaderosydney: my understanding is chromium is open source and then chrome takes the code and alters it a bit and then closes it17:02
phunyguyFlolila, look into the gufw package if you are very worried about it.  You can have it drop by default, and only allow in what you need.17:02
jmaderobut it's similar devs working together17:02
jmaderocould be wrong about that17:02
sydneyjmadero: I had issues with chrominum,so i installed google chrome. :D17:02
sydneyjmadero: fixed  now:D17:03
Flolilaallright phunyguy, this is all new to me17:03
lkywOEP, is there a chance for clipboard history? on the machine that I want to check this, I have been using the same OS that I was using when I last copy-pasted the password17:03
rcw2wilee-nilee: hi17:03
nectarys_i'm trying to connect a open my usb via virtualbox where i've launched Windows 7, but I wasn't able to find how. Does anyone know how to deal with, please ?17:03
wilee-nileercw2, Hi, so do you get how to run the bootscript?17:04
rcw2wilee-nilee: installing now17:04
sydneyjmadero: google chrome is not quite as resource friendly though. ;)17:04
OEPlkyw: I guess that would be a long shot unless there just happened to be something out there that logs clipboard data (which I sort of doubt, sounds like a major security issue to me), was this something like truecrypt that doesn't unlock on boot, but you just use your keyring program as you need access to the volume?17:05
wilee-nileercw2, IF windows is still showing in the grub menu try just running sudo update-grub  that may fix the issue.17:05
ben88hello ubunut world17:05
rcw2wilee-nilee: well my issue is larger, i don't have any menu at bootup and must use a live cd17:05
sydneyben88: Hi!!17:06
kyriakoshadj_Hello i encrypted my hard disk i type the code correctly and there is not opening and it is opening BusyBox17:06
nectarys_i'm trying to connect a open my usb via virtualbox where i've launched Windows 7, but I wasn't able to find how. Does anyone know how to deal with, please ?17:06
wilee-nileercw2, Ah cool, so to speak, the script will help us diagnose.17:06
rcw2wilee-nilee: but restoring grub hasn't worked, and i think the windows bootloader may be interfering17:06
kyriakoshadj_How can i be into it?17:06
ben88does anyone have time to explain how shared libs work ?17:06
lkywOEP, I dont use truecrypt, I used keyring program to store my password to the partition.17:06
sydneyjmadero: ok,i have to go. Bye!!17:07
sydneyjmadero: hopeflly that fixes your problem. :D17:07
llutzben88: ask in  ##linux17:07
ben88thx17:08
OEPlkyw: this is an encrypted volume like you make normally with the ubuntu installer?17:08
ben88can't send to room ##linux?17:08
ben88not a frequent IRC'er17:09
ben88hmm17:09
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rcw2wilee-nilee: caveat: there has been a lot of partition deleting done today, here's where things are now:  http://pastebin.com/butfn6Gw17:09
lkywOEP, I created the encrypted volume with disk utility (palimpsest)..17:10
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wilee-nileercw2, Yeah you have partition numbers out of order, not the best scenario. Are sda1 and sda5 the same basic root?17:13
rcw2sda5 is ideal, sda1 is a backup of sda5 i just made.  you'll see the boot flag on sda1 but that's just because that was my plan for my next test.  if you can suggest a setup, i can modify things, reboot, and return17:14
Eeinnanyone around that's familiar with Resara? lol17:14
wilee-nileercw2, I see no windows remnants, so that is not an issue.17:14
rcw2wilee-nilee: ok, gparted was saying something about sda2 being affiliated with msdos, so i thought sda2 might have some windows bootloader attached17:15
wilee-nileercw2, Use my nick prefacing answer to me every time, the boot flag means nothing in linux. two identical roots is you issue here.17:15
rcw2wilee-nilee: heres a visual representation: http://ctrlv.in/34177017:15
rcw2wilee-nilee: ok, will do.  no, this issue was there before i created the second root17:16
lkywthere are various clipboard history tools ( c.h. utility, diodon) as I found out. do any of these display history "before" the installation of the tool?17:17
wilee-nileercw2, sda2 is the extended, it just contains partitions, you have been over thinking this with multiple errors of any cause and effect17:17
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rcw2wilee-nilee: id be glad to just get going with sda217:17
rcw2wilee-nilee: i can make sda1 hidden if that helps17:18
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wilee-nileercw2, I'm not sure I can help you, you have a whole set of wrong assumptions, that to weed through and explain I just don;t have the energy to be honest. ;)17:19
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rcw2wilee-nilee: do you have a set of instructions for getting this going?17:20
wilee-nileercw2, You have painted yourself into a corner, with partitions out of order and two identical partitions. You do not have to re-install, but to be honest the easiest fix here would be to back up and do that.17:22
lkywsorry I have to disconnect for a sec17:22
random_guy_hey17:22
random_guy_i got a problem17:22
random_guy_todays ubuntu update broke it17:22
wilee-nilee!details | random_guy_ all in one post17:23
ubotturandom_guy_ all in one post: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)17:23
rcw2wilee-nilee: backup and do what? delete the mirrored partition and done??17:24
random_guy_yep : i updated ubuntu 14.04 today; update went smoothly ; after reboot i was stuck after the login screen with pointer and no unity; ctrl+alt+f1 tty0 login shows no major discrepancy in lightdm logs or greeter logs; what i have done - correcting ownership of .Xauthority, purging and re-installing ubuntu-desktop,compiz and unity17:26
wilee-nileercw2, Back up to an external what you need, wipe the HD and start over, having a separate home is not really needed anymore, you can actually do that if needed on a distro upgrade, here it has complicated things as you are not real up on partitioning and general basic stuff to be honest.17:26
wilee-nileerandom_guy_, Were you using a proprietary graphic driver?17:27
wilee-nileerandom_guy_, THe ubuntu desktop and unity are the same thing and doing that purging was a foolish move.17:28
alex________hi17:28
random_guy_ya i use propitiatory nvidia blob17:32
random_guy_i just tried to clear confs and check !17:32
adamsilverguys, the brightness controls are not working after installing ubuntu on my laptop… is this related to not using Nvidia drivers?17:33
zetherooa friend of mine has installed 14.04 fresh on his Dell laptop - in the Live Session the wifi and USB work fine - after the install wifi and USB ports don't work17:36
wilee-nileerandom_guy_, Preface answer to other here with their nick, propitiatory drivers do not follow kernel upgrades we had one lately, was there on in this update?17:36
wilee-nileeone*17:36
random_guy_no it wasnt a kernel update17:36
random_guy_just a normal one17:36
nodatahi17:39
nodatai just installed nullidentd by this command ( sudo apt-get install nullidentd ) ...but why it is not working ?  any help ?17:39
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zetheroodoes anyone have an idea why something which works in a Live Session no longer works after installing? I have never had this happen to me, so I am completely green here.17:40
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wilee-nileerandom_guy_, Since you have done some voodoo you probably did not need to do it is difficult to tell exactly what is up here, Have you tried to just reload the graphic drivers? Also notice when I talk to you you see random_guy_ at the start of the message, this notifies you I'm at your door like a visual doorbell. ;)17:40
random_guy_http://filebin.ca/1OmlN3Vwn4C8/lightdm.zip17:41
planetmakerzetheroo, different driver setup17:41
random_guy_look my lightdm logs if there is something17:41
zetherooplanetmaker: the drivers used in the Live Session are different from those used after install?17:41
planetmakerthe full install might have more, tries a - seemingly - more appropriate first. But that one fails17:41
fantastic001Hello, i have a problem with opening images on ubuntu17:41
planetmakernot different, but possibly less17:41
planetmakerbut dunno :)17:41
wilee-nileezetheroo, Are you helping your friend by asking here?17:42
fantastic001when i connect lg z1 on ubuntu box i can view files but when i try to open image, it fails17:42
zetherooplanetmaker: that would kinda make the idea of testing your hardware with the LiveCD pointless :P17:42
fantastic001i saw phone uses mtp and i cannot figure out where it is mounted17:42
zetheroowilee-nilee: yes17:42
fantastic001and, when i move image to my hdd (desktop for example) it opens well17:42
fantastic001does someone kow where problem is or from where can i start searching for solution?17:43
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wilee-nileezetheroo, Doing that really complicates a complicated problem for us already, have them come here themselves.17:44
zetheroowilee-nilee: unfortunately for some people even coming to irc is too much ..17:44
zetheroowilee-nilee: do you have any insight into the issue and what could be done to fix it?17:44
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wilee-nileezetheroo, I will not help in this scenario is all, I like my general sanity. ;)17:45
kDycuQUACKHey hoping someone had a bit of insight on an audio problem I'm having.17:45
zetheroowilee-nilee: in that case let's just say I am the one with the issues ;)17:46
kDycuQUACKWhile playing audio files on lubuntu 10.04 I get crackling audio and static UNLESS I'm actively typing or moving my mouse17:46
kDycuQUACKany ideas?17:46
planetmakersounds weired, kDycuQUACK. But did you try any distro which is not 4 years old?17:47
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kDycuQUACKI know, I know, I'm in a specific situation that requires me to use this specific distro17:47
wilee-nileezetheroo, Really you expect me to help under that scenario, are you retarded, I ask in the nice way possible. ;)17:47
wilee-nileenicest17:47
zetheroowilee-nilee: the guy having the issues can do any command instantly and give me feedback ...17:48
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planetmakerwilee-nilee, anyone can use a web browser-based IRC client. That's really not asked too much17:48
planetmakerups... ^ @ zetheroo17:49
zetherooplanetmaker: heh ... I have never even done that myself ... have always used one client or another :)17:50
wilee-nileeplanetmaker, Not sure why you are telling me this.17:50
braindrophey Ubuntu. I'm looking to get a SATA3 controller to add some high speed ports to my Ubuntu system. Since SATA3 is 6gbps, I want something that is at least pcie x2 since otherwise, the pcie will limit the connection to 5gbps. Can anyone make any suggestions? The best I've found so far is this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124060&cm_re=sata_controller-_-16-124-060-_-Product17:50
wilee-nileeplanetmaker, Is ups oops?17:51
planetmakerYes. Noticed you don't need that lecture after I hit enter17:51
braindropThere seems to be some argument as to whether or not a Marvell 88SE9230 controller is stable in Linux. So after hours of looking around, I figured I'd stop here for some opinions/experience17:51
wilee-nileeplanetmaker, Cool, just trying to understand. ;)17:51
planetmakersorry for the confusion :)17:51
ciccio_!list17:56
ubottuciccio_: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».17:56
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zetheroowilee-nilee: I am trying to get the user onto the channel17:59
Monotokogonna ask here too: I can't seem to figure out how to get bind on my 14.04 server, I've tried to the usual "apt-get install bind9" but it's saying there's no installation candidate18:00
apb1963so I reformatted my brand new128GB USB 2.0 stick from exFAT to NTFS... 6+ hours later, it said it was successful.  Then I ran fsck on it.  I get "$MFTMirr does not match $MFT (record 3).   Remount failed: Input/output error"  Any ideas?  ubuntu 12.0418:01
Monotokohere's what I'm doing and what's happening: http://pastebin.com/vbKkvFQW18:01
Monotokodnsutils isn't bind...18:02
lkywhello again, I just had the question if I could retrieve my clipboard history of the last 3 months. would this be possible? it is of critical importance to save my whole data!18:03
Monotokolkyw, not unless you have something to save it18:03
Monotokootherwise it's gone when you overwrite it18:03
lkywMonotoko, what kind of something? like a clipboard history program?18:04
Monotokoyeah, but it won't record anything that's gone already18:04
Monotokoesp. the last 3 months18:04
lkywhow about my keystrokes? can I get my keystrokes ANYHOW for the same period?18:05
lkywor only for March is even enough18:05
Monotokonot unless you had a keylogger installed18:05
kirankumarhello sir i intalled vertual box  i am new user i want to copy my data from linux into vertual os what i do? help please18:05
drexlkyw: you should be able to get your bash history, that’s about it18:05
wilee-nileeapb1963, you ran a fsck on a ntfs?18:06
mr_enthusiasmHey, I'm having a real hard time figuring out how to create some permanent cgroups. I've tried creating a cgconfig.conf file in /etc/ but that doesn't seem to be working. Any suggestions out there?18:06
apb1963wilee-nilee: Yes18:06
lkywdrex, could you please help me know what it would be useful for? I am not yet familiar with bash history18:06
wilee-nileeapb1963, Bad idea, you should be using windows and a chkdsk18:06
Monotokolkyw, it's what you've run in bash - probably not what you're trying to find18:06
drexopen a terminal and type 'history' whithout the quotes18:06
kirankumarany one help to use vertual machine18:07
drexanything you typed at the command line18:07
Monotokolkyw, what are you actually trying to find?18:07
wilee-nilee!details | kirankumar Ste the actual issue18:07
ubottukirankumar Ste the actual issue: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)18:07
compdockirankumar, whats the problem?18:07
lkywMonotoko, my password to a disk partition18:07
Monotokolkyw, encrypted with Ubuntu's standard system on install?18:08
lkywmost probably in March, I created this password and copy-pasted it to my keyring program. that's why I ask for the logs18:08
lkywMonotoko, I used the gnome disk utility to create the encrypted partititon18:08
lkywpartition*18:08
Monotokolkyw, hm, sounds like you're screwed unless you can find the keyring it was in18:09
Monotokodo you remember anything about the password? The more you can remember, the more likelyhood you would have of cracking it18:09
lkywMonotoko, I've got other tiny hopes to reach the keyring. but finding out what I typed or copy-pasted would solve the problem straight on18:09
zetherooDV: you there?18:10
lkywMonotoko, can anywhere not be deep-searched in the hardware or so? any "last corner"?18:10
Monotokolkyw, no chance, sorry18:10
DV___Hi, I've done up upgrade from 13 to 14 on my mil dell660. On live USB, everything works, but on reboot the usb and wifi don't work (qualcomm atheos)18:10
apb1963wilee-nilee: I also ran ntfsfix, and got the identical output.18:10
Monotokolkyw, you could ask the NSA18:10
kirankumaryes sir my problem is . i was a installed a vertual machine and  in machine i installed windows xp.  i have need a data from outside my machine (vertual machin)18:10
Monotokobut I doubt they'd tell you18:10
Monotoko:P18:10
zetherooDV___: Ah there you are18:10
zetheroowilee-nilee: please meet DV___  ;)18:11
wilee-nileeapb1963, Linux just does not have the tools to do what windows does period. Why are you doing this anyway?18:11
lkywMonotoko, if I were in anywhere in the physical proximity to any intelligence staff, I'd even try that18:11
apb1963wilee-nilee: Because it came preformatted as exfat and based on the reading I've done ntfs is more reliable than exfat18:12
lkywMonotoko, despair aside, is there no clipboard program that shows the history before the install?18:12
zetheroowilee-nilee: DV___ has the Atheros AR9485 chipset and Intel 7 Series/C210 USB chipset18:12
Monotokolkyw, no sorry, it doesn't exist so there's nothing to show18:13
maddawg3depends actually18:13
Monotokoit stores anything you copy into memory18:13
sarahSHi everyone. I have a somewhat odd question, please bear with me. :)18:13
maddawg3a lot of external drives should still remain FAT18:13
sarahSI have ubuntu installed on 2 different drives on the same machine.  when i boot from the primary drive i get a local IP of 10.0.4.9.  when i boot from the secondary drive, it receives the ip: 10.0.4.7.   How can i ensure that the secondary has the same IP as the primary (10.0.4.9)18:13
Monotokothat memory is wiped when you shit down18:13
Monotoko*shut down18:13
Monotokosorry18:13
wilee-nileeapb1963, That is an opinion is all, why are you running these file analysis's?18:13
Monotokonever touches the hard drive18:13
apb1963wilee-nilee: plus when I ran chkdsk it barfed... so I figured I'd try linux tools since linux is better than windoze.18:13
maddawg3but if you need more than a 4GB for a single file then ntfs probably would be better but not all things support ntfs18:13
maddawg3apb1963 what seems to be the issue?18:14
apb1963wilee-nilee: It's more reliable since there are two FATs in ntfs... whereas exfat only has one.18:14
apb1963maddawg3: so I reformatted my brand new128GB USB 2.0 stick from exFAT to NTFS... 6+ hours later, it said it was successful.  Then I ran fsck on it.  I get "$MFTMirr does not match $MFT (record 3).   Remount failed: Input/output error"  Any ideas?  ubuntu 12.0418:14
wilee-nileeapb1963, "linux is better than windoze." Another opinion it is yours, and spell windows correctly here. The fanboi stuff does not fly here. ;)18:14
kirankumar#ubottu     can help me? ,  to use of vertual machine18:14
wilee-nileeapb1963, Any way I'm done with you, you are misinformed and just not worth messing with.18:15
lkywMonotoko, I don't wanna be pushy, but I'd typed in the passwords in text editor before copy-pasting, and closed the text editor after paste. can anything be dug out of gedit text editor logs?18:15
apb1963wilee-nilee: So you're saying you have a different opinion than the other opinions posted on the Net...18:16
maddawg3what tool did you use to format it?18:16
apb1963maddawg3: mkfs18:16
Monotokolkyw, again, if you didn't save it - it's all in memory18:16
Monotokoif you've saved it to the disk, and deleted it - you could try a recovery program18:17
Monotokobut from what it sounds like, you haven't done that18:17
zetheroowilee-nilee: I guess your busy now with apb1963 ... but were you able to catch the info I posted?18:17
maddawg3apb1963 i dont know much about mkfs personally but i had that error before18:17
maddawg3the smftmirr does not match smft18:17
maddawg3i dont remember the record but probably irrelevant18:18
maddawg3i reformatted the drive and it worked18:18
maddawg3but i was going from fat32 to ntfs18:18
maddawg3not exfat18:18
apb1963maddawg3: how did you reformat it?18:18
maddawg3with gparted18:18
maddawg3apb1963: you could also try ntfsprog18:19
amriunixmaddawg what kind of fileSystem you use ???18:19
Monotoko I'm on Ubuntu 14.04 and can't seem to get bind9... here's what I have in my sources.list: http://pastebin.com/x0J0KZ5t and here's what I get when I try to install it: http://pastebin.com/vbKkvFQW18:19
Monotokoany ideas?18:19
zetherooDV___: sorry, I don't know what happened with wilee-nilee. He said if I got you on the channel that he would help you out. :P18:19
apb1963maddawg3: first thing I tried was kde partition manager... then installed ntfs-3g and ntfsprog....18:20
DV___:)18:20
kirankumarin virtual os.   how i use actual data to virtual machin.18:20
maddawg3amriunix on my Linux i use ext418:20
maddawg3try gparted if your just trying to make a ntfs partition18:20
zetherooDV___: ikonia is also a pro in this channel ... but I don't see him around at the moment18:20
maddawg3it comes on the ubuntu install disk i dont think it installs with the OS though18:20
maddawg3could be wrong about that18:21
maddawg3but either way... sudo apt-get install gparted18:21
maddawg3assuming you have a gui...  if not you can use the gparted startup disk18:21
lkywMonotoko, there are at least 2 disks where I'd saved it, one external disk and a usb, plus a computer HDD. in HDD and usb the saved files were twofold deleted: once with "wipe" and once with "dd". from what I already heard from people, these two processes rule out any recovery chance. and at the last place it was only wiped, not dded, but this place is the very encrypted partition that I want to access to.18:21
maddawg3My windows machine uses NTFS for everything but FAT32 for removable18:22
maddawg3(I keep most of my removable as fat18:22
maddawg3easier to go between different OSes18:22
OerHeks!find bind918:22
ubottuFound: bind9, bind9-doc, bind9-host, bind9utils, libbind9-9018:22
kirankumarany one help me? please18:23
apb1963maddawg3: Yeah, that's another reason I figured I'd wipe the exfat and go with NTFS.18:23
maddawg3whats another reason?18:23
maddawg3NTFS is not widely supported18:23
maddawg3exFAT is18:23
maddawg3you need 3rd party stuff for ntfs18:23
apb1963maddawg3: what you mention... easier to go between different OSes18:23
maddawg3ntfs is harder tho18:23
maddawg3fat is easier18:23
maddawg3i keep all my removable media as FAT so that I can go between OSes18:23
apb1963maddawg3: o i c18:24
bhaveshI installed CInnamon on Ubuntu, I think I changed its themes a lot of times, I want to get the original cinnamon look and feel back. I tried my best, but still I get this kind of bugged theme http://i.imgur.com/Op2BXiH.png There's black background for the desktop tweak setting window. Also you cannot read the names of desktop files properly18:24
maddawg3like at school they use Macs and they need a special utility to read ntfs18:24
zetherooHa! wilee-nilee has left the building ... so much for acting like you will help if the user with the issue joins the room ... next time I will not waste my friends' time :P18:24
maddawg3which they dont have18:24
apb1963maddawg3: I misread what you wrote18:24
bhaveshand when I select some file from the file manager, I cannot read it properly too. Any suggestions?18:24
maddawg3zetheroo what is the issue18:24
kirankumarplease.. help me..18:24
maddawg3kirankumar just ask the question18:24
zetheroomaddawg3: a friend of mine has installed 14.04 fresh on his Dell desktop - in the Live Session the wifi and USB work fine - after the install wifi and USB ports don't work18:25
apb1963maddawg3: I'm just wondering if shouldn't just use ext4 and (hopefully) be done with it.18:25
Guest48378kirankumar, long way to go: Please read in "Virtualbox Help" => "4.2. Installing and Maintaining Guest Additions" and "4.3. Shared Folders". - Then you can use data from your host.18:25
bhaveshAnd I also get gnome-ish icons18:26
bhaveshwindow borders18:26
zetheroomaddawg3: he is on the channel now (DV___) and the machine has the Atheros AR9485 chipset and Intel 7 Series/C210 USB18:26
apb1963maddawg3: but I might as well give gparted a whirl.18:26
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bhaveshany help setting everything back to normal?18:26
SchrodingersScatkirankumar: that would depend on what you are using with the VM, for example virtualbox lets you assign folders that can be read/write.18:26
maddawg3zetheroo yea i cant help with that i dont think...18:26
zetheroomaddawg3: I have never had it happen that things which work during the Live Session no longer work after install .. so I am clueless with that18:27
maddawg3i have never used 14.0418:27
zetheroomaddawg3: ok18:27
maddawg3you sure it was installed correctly18:27
kirankumarmaddawg3 sir installed virtual machine. in virtual machine os it not support  linux partition and data18:27
zetheroomaddawg3: have you ever experienced things working in the Live Session and then not working after install?18:27
zetheroomaddawg3: dunno ... need to as DV___18:27
maddawg3cant say I have...18:28
maddawg3not off the top of my head18:28
apb1963maddawg3: Hmm.  How do I run it as root?18:29
maddawg3run what as root?18:29
apb1963maddawg3: gparted18:29
apb1963maddawg3: it won't let me run it as me18:30
zetherooapb1963: gksudo gparted18:30
maddawg3gksudo gparted i think18:30
zetherooapb1963: or gksu gparted works too18:30
maddawg3zetheroo what does the output of lsusb show?18:30
moarrrmy ubuntu is very slow18:30
DV___hi maddawg3:  thanks for your time. it was a native upgrade from 13, but then after reboot the grub was messed up. I did a reinstall (keeping home) of 14 and it fixed grub, but wifi and usb didn't work18:30
maddawg3!pastebin18:30
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.18:30
moarrris thre something wrong with it?18:30
maddawg3DV___ what does lsusb show?18:31
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apb1963maddawg3: (gksudo:30249): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :018:32
mariusz__witam was18:32
apb1963maddawg3: the reason it can't open the display is because I'm logged in as me.18:32
apb1963maddawg3: and therefore already own it18:32
mariusz__ma proble ni chodzom mi filmy na yutubie ubuntu 9 1018:33
Pici!pl | mariusz__18:34
ubottumariusz__: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.18:34
DV___maddawg3: there's 9 lines of output and it's not online :-/18:34
maddawg3apb1963 well i dunno.. gparted never asks to be ran as root18:34
apb1963maddawg3: nevermind... I was running it from a root window18:34
maddawg3how are you running it?18:34
zetheroomaddawg3: since the wifi is not working on the machine it's got no internet connection ...18:34
apb1963apb1963: erase erase erase :)18:34
apb1963maddawg3: erase erase erase18:34
DV___maddawg3: am on another laptop on here :)18:34
maddawg3so zertheroo?18:34
maddawg3my commands dont require an internet connection18:35
maddawg3apb1963 what?18:35
deydoes someone here know if its possible to put a virtual gap between two displays with the intel hd4600 gpus/drivers? like i can with nvidia?18:35
zetheroomaddawg3: no but to put the output on the channel internet it needed ...18:35
maddawg3or... you can type it18:36
econdudeawesomehowdy all. Trying to get a Belkin AC Dual-Band WiFi USB adapter to work with Lubuntu. Not sure how to go about this, even to see if it is being recognized by the system18:36
zetheroomaddawg3: DV___ is trying to sort out a connection :)18:36
maddawg3does the wired work?18:36
econdudeawesometalking to me maddawg3? If so, yes, works great18:36
zetheroomaddawg3: I guess he has to test that ...18:36
apb1963maddawg3: nvm I figured out what I did wrong... running a check on the usb stick now18:36
maddawg3in terms of wifi... did that work from the live cd?18:36
zetheroomaddawg3: yes, he said it worked on the Live Session as well18:37
zetheroovery odd18:37
maddawg3he may not have installed ubuntu correctly18:37
maddawg3if he only did a base system install some stuff might not work but not entirely sure18:37
zetheroomaddawg3: possibly, though I have seen issues with this wireless chipset in 14.04 ...18:37
apb1963maddawg3: it says "1 operation pending"... I presume that means it's actually executing?18:37
maddawg3no you need to execute it apb196318:38
apb1963maddawg3: or is it telling me the operation has been queued and I need to kick it off somehow?18:38
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maddawg3i believe there is a check mark or something apb196318:38
maddawg3cant remember tho18:38
zetheroomaddawg3: http://tinypic.com/r/o6fiar/818:38
apb1963maddawg3: yeah, found it.18:39
apb1963maddawg3: And it ends up giving me the identical output to ntfsfix18:39
maddawg3zetheroo according to that the USB is working18:40
zetherooDV___: but wait a minute ... do you have a USB mouse plugged in?18:40
ice9how to run a program in chroot?18:40
maddawg3is he using server?18:40
apb1963maddawg3: guess i'll try chkdsk and see if works any better... I just hate to do that because it takes ages.18:40
maddawg3apb1963 what happens when it mounts18:41
DV___zetheroo: yup, another oddity18:41
maddawg3DV___ you installed the server build?18:41
maddawg3or is this just how it's coming up?18:41
apb1963maddawg3: you mean when I actually try to mount mount?  or when gparted tries to mount?18:41
maddawg3when you try to mount18:41
maddawg3mount to a directory18:41
maddawg3or plug it into another machine18:41
DV___maddawg3: no, desktop18:42
zetheroomaddawg3: what makes you think its the Server edition?18:42
maddawg3the last time i had this error it was due to a problem with my flashdrive apb196318:42
maddawg3oh nvm sorry i didnt see the background until i scrolled18:42
zetherooDV___: so the USB is working ... ?18:42
apb1963maddawg3:18:43
apb1963$MFTMirr does not match $MFT (record 3).18:43
apb1963Failed to mount '/dev/sdd1': Input/output error18:43
kirankumari shred a folder it not display or mouned in virtual os18:43
apb1963maddawg3: there's a lot more text... but that's the gist of it18:43
markolo266hello18:44
zetherooDV___: can you plug another USB device in and then repeat the lsusb command and see if the new device shows up?18:44
DV___zetheroo: I assume the mouse works since it's plugged in on boot? but no, only mouse (usb) works. any other device plugged in doesn't show up18:44
Jordan_Uapb1963: That sounds a lot like faulty hardware.18:44
markolo266i have a ml350 g5 and it's only certified to run 10.04, can it run 14.04?18:44
Hypnozzetheroo: dmesg | tail would show something attached as well18:44
zetherooDV___: by "doesn't show up" do you mean when looking with lsusb?18:45
zetherooHypnoz: yes true!18:45
apb1963Jordan_U: Yeah, I've been thinking I have a defective usb stick... which I don't want to think :(  It's brand new, never used.18:45
markolo266they use them to test them out at the factory18:45
Jordan_Uapb1963: Run badblocks on it as a test.18:45
DV___zetheroo: doesn't show in the disk util or in lsusb18:46
kirankumari use 4.1.2 vm . i shared a data but not display  vm is what i do?18:46
maddawg3apb1963 i had this issue before but it was a hardware problem18:46
Hypnozanyone running vnc server on 14.04? I don't see the "remote sharing" menu in the OS anymore18:46
apb1963Jordan_U: excellent idea... any suggested options?18:47
maddawg3have you tried a different drive apb1963?18:47
zetheroomaddawg3:  http://tinypic.com/r/t0j5t4/818:47
zetherooDV___: what is it?18:47
zetherooApacer Technology18:47
maddawg3zetheroo it looks fine18:47
maddawg3it sees a mouse18:48
maddawg3so the USB is reading18:48
maddawg3it also sees all the devices18:48
zetheroomaddawg3: yes, the new USB device he plugged in is also showing up18:48
Jordan_Uapb1963: I would add "-w" to do a test including writes *which will destroy all current contents on the drive*.18:48
apb1963maddawg3: yeah, I'm hoping it's not the stick but I think i'm running out of options here.  Different drive????  Not sure what you mean.  This is a usb stick... different drive for what?  A different stick?18:48
maddawg3apb1963 drive is either short for flash drive or hard drive18:48
maddawg3in this case we are talking about a flash drive18:48
kirankumarmaddawg3 : sir i shared a folder but it not display in vm os . please help me18:48
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maddawg3excuse me kirankumar don't know what you mean18:49
maddawg3how did you share it?18:49
Hypnozshared with what? virtualbox?18:49
apb1963 maddawg3: hence my confusion.  This is a usb stick I'm having trouble with.18:49
Gorrothhi18:49
maddawg3are you using vmware, virtualbox18:49
maddawg3apb1963 a usb stick is a flash drive18:49
cryptopsyhow to remove unused deps?18:49
Gorrothis there a way to make unity stop responing when i press the meta key in emacs?18:49
maddawg3usb stick is not what they are called18:49
maddawg3they are called flash drives18:50
maddawg3you call it a usb stick18:50
Hypnozcryptopsy: sudo apt-get autoremove18:50
Gorrothi'll do something like press alt-p very quickly, and the alt menu pops up18:50
maddawg3and so do many, but it's not.... it's a usb flash drive18:50
cryptopsyHypnoz: tnx18:50
Jordan_Ucryptopsy: For a certain definition of "unused", "sudo apt-get autoremove".18:50
kirankumarIn my Vm I shared a folder for vm but it not mounted in vm os18:50
maddawg3kirankumar what VM product18:50
maddawg3we need specifics18:50
maddawg3there are many to choose from18:50
aFeijodamn, my ubuntu 14.04 wont mount my Galaxy S4 thru the USB cable... not an original cable, does it matter?18:50
kirankumarvirtual machine18:50
maddawg3virtual machine?18:50
maddawg3WHAT PRODUCT18:51
Hypnozkirankumar: you have to be more specific about what kind of vm. virtualbox? vmware?18:51
maddawg3lol18:51
cryptopsyJordan_U: what's the difference?18:51
maddawg3he just called it a virtual machine... no kidding... that's what a virtualization products run... virtual machines18:51
apb1963maddawg3: eh... I go back and forth... just wanted to be clear in what it was... so I'm not sure how trying a different drive would help?18:51
kirankumarfor intalling a windos os.18:51
cryptopsythere is no diference18:51
Hypnozkirankumar: who makes the software that runs the virtual machine?18:52
cryptopsytnx again18:52
maddawg3apb1963 because a different drive would tell you if something is wrong with the drive18:52
Hypnozkirankumar: you had to install a program then you can make the vm inside it right?18:52
apb1963Jordan_U: it's running... looks like it's going to be awhile.18:52
maddawg3the drive you are using right now apb1963 is not working18:52
maddawg3hence you need a different one18:52
markolo266how do i partition my drive as gpt?18:52
markolo266since it's 4.5 gb18:52
markolo266tb18:52
maddawg3that way we can determine if it's the drive18:52
maddawg3gpt isn't a format18:52
maddawg3it's a partition table18:52
markolo266yes18:53
Hypnozmarkolo266: I use the program "parted" from the command line18:53
kirankumarin ubbuntu i installed a vm . for study18:53
maddawg3kirankumar you did not install a VM18:54
Hypnozlol18:54
maddawg3you created a VM in a virtualization product18:54
Hypnozround and round we go18:54
maddawg3lol18:54
Hypnozwhere we stop no one knows18:54
maddawg3lmao18:54
Guest48378kirankumar, if you installed "VirtualBox", then you need this in XP vm. Please read => http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html#additions-windows18:54
kirankumarsir i installed my machine roperly18:54
apb1963maddawg3: running badblocks program... looks like it's going to be quite a while before it's done.18:54
maddawg3you are not telling us what product you used kirmankumar18:54
maddawg3you need a PRODUCT to install a VM18:55
maddawg3it's like saying i installed a .doc18:55
maddawg3if you created a .doc i'd ask what program you created it in18:55
maddawg3openoffice, ms word, etc...18:55
Pici!who18:55
ubottuAs you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)18:55
kirankumarthanks for link18:55
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maddawg3if you are using the VirtualBox program to run the vitual machine the directions are different than if you use vmware18:56
* Guest48378 thanks Pici18:56
maddawg3apb1963 are you going to try a different usb flash drive18:56
Guest48378kirankumar, you're welcome.18:56
apb1963Jordan_U: maddawg3: thanks for the help... I'll report back when it's done... at this rate, it will be hours and hours.  0.81% done in 4 minutes.18:57
maddawg3....18:57
ronvachcan anyone enlighten me regarding why 14.04 would send a sollicited router req when booting instead of using a statically defined gateway when enabling IPv6?  I am using HSRP as first hop redundancy instead of router-advertisements, and ubuntu overrides my static gateway with what it gets from a RS, and that eventually times out and I end up with no default route for IPv6 :(18:57
maddawg3i dunno what you are even doing apb196318:58
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Hypnozmarkolo266: that's kind of a complicated question though, you may want to search google for setting a gpt partition on the drive for specific commands and steps18:58
maddawg3markolo i can tell you how just give me a sec18:58
maddawg3i gotta launch gparted18:58
markolo266wat18:59
apb1963maddawg3: i'm doing a badblocks test18:59
markolo266i actually got it18:59
markolo266parted was easy enough18:59
maddawg3markolo266 i use gparted and you can create a gpt in there18:59
maddawg3oh ok18:59
markolo266i don't have a gui18:59
Hypnozmklabel gpt is the first part I believe18:59
markolo266yea18:59
maddawg3apb1963 why would you waste the time? try a different drive18:59
markolo266right now i'm trying to make a partition that will take the entire drive18:59
markolo266with parted18:59
maddawg3if the different drive works then you know the issue is bad hardware18:59
apb1963maddawg3: what do you mean by "works" ? mounting it?19:00
maddawg3ummm yes19:00
maddawg3usually that's what it means19:00
maddawg3if the drive mounts and you can copy stuff to it then it works19:00
apb1963maddawg3: I was able to mount THIS drive before I reformatted it as NTFS.19:00
maddawg3that doesnt  mean it works19:00
maddawg3if you have just one bad block and you reformat it then it could not work19:01
maddawg3it depends what blocks are bad and where19:01
lkywhello again, could you please help me know the command for dd rescue to recover data from a driveß19:01
lkyw?19:01
maddawg3you dont need to do a test to determine that... you just try a different flash drive if it formats fine without an error to ntfs then you will know it's something to do with the current drive19:01
maddawg3lkyw this is a ubuntu help channel for the ubuntu OS19:02
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meek_geekis ubuntu fully open ?19:03
daftykinsdefine fully open19:03
maddawg3linux is open19:03
markolo266as open as a door19:03
markolo266when it's open19:03
lkywmaddawg3 yes, and it's a gnu tool19:03
Jordan_Umeek_geek: Short answer "yes". For the long answer, define "fully open", and "ubuntu" :)19:03
planetmakerubuntu ships with proprietary drivers and non-open trademarks19:03
lkywmaddawg3 I got help earlier here on this topic19:03
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cyfordhi is there a way to tune up openvpn on untangle,   my vpn clients transfer at 45kB/s  even on a Gps switch19:04
maddawg3yes but that's a seperate program they were just being helpful19:04
apb1963maddawg3: so then you're not saying to just mount a second drive, you're saying to also reformat it.  But even if I do that... it still leaves me in the dark as to what's wrong with THIS drive.  Right now it's telling me $MFTMirr does not match $MFT (record 3).  While I don't know what that is, it sounds more like a logical error rather than a physical one.19:04
lkywcan anyone help about ddrescue?19:04
daftykinslkyw: type 'man ddrescue'19:05
Picicyford: untangle?19:05
maddawg3apb1964 yes format another drive... do exactly what you did with the drive that is not working19:05
maddawg3it doesnt tell you WHAT is wrong but it narrows it down19:05
Jordan_Ulkyw: I don't think that ddrescue will help you recover your password.19:05
maddawg3you cant recover your password if it's a linux password19:05
maddawg3those are encrypted19:05
maddawg3cant be viewed or unecrypted19:05
maddawg3rule is DONT FORGET YOUR PASSWORD19:05
lkywJordan_U, I have some hardware which might have a small chance19:06
maddawg3in the event you do you can use another account to change it or a rescue shell19:06
Jordan_Umaddawg3: Just a nitpick, but they're "hashed", not "encrypted".19:06
Picimaddawg3: can you please ease-up on the enter key?19:06
maddawg3sorry my screen is really really small so i cant see the whole line it goes off the screen and my resolution wont go smaller19:06
maddawg3err higher i meant19:06
lkywJordan_U, on these devices I might have saved the password, that's why19:07
maddawg3yes hashed sorry Jordan_U19:07
maddawg3lkyw what password are you trying to recover?19:07
Jordan_Ulkyw: I thought that the password had been wiped from all drives it had been saved to.19:07
apb1963maddawg3: ok, just for the sake of conversation... lets say I get the identical error on the second drive.... what info. does that provide?19:07
lkywmaddawg3, encrypted partition password19:07
maddawg3apb1963 it says there is something wrong with how you are formatting it and we need to look into that more19:08
planetmakerhe. If there was a way to recover it other than remembering it, then the encryption would not be worth using19:08
maddawg3lkyw then you are screwed if it's encrypted19:08
gaurav_1any site for basic java question for coding which covers every topic in java ...?19:08
lkywJordan_U, yes, but I want to try...maddawg3, believe me you're the 209th person I heard this from.19:08
Jordan_Ulkyw: ddrescue is for recovering data that was saved successfully to the drive, but where the drive's hardware is now failing to read that data. On a working drive, you won't see any difference between what ddrescue reads from the drive and what dd, or cat, or "mount" reads from the drive.19:08
meek_geekJordan_U, is it opensource ? or opensource with close components? I know Linux comes with non-free firmware but other than that ?19:08
maddawg3apb1963 if it still doesn't work then we can look at the commands you use to format as well as the products, but from what you are saying you are doing everything right, therefore the only possibility would be the drive you are trying to format19:09
maddawg3apb1963: have you not done logic in school?19:09
Picigaurav_1: ##java   but you will need to be reigstered/identified to join see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration and #freenode for help with that19:09
maddawg3lkyw: you are hearing that because you cant19:09
gaurav_1any site for basic java question for coding which covers every topic in java ...?19:10
lkywJordan_U, oh, ok. it's been a long time since I last used dd. I'd forgotten19:10
maddawg3ddrescue copies blocks and tries to reassemble them to recover your file lkyw... it doesnt usually recover EVERY block, but can recover most of them19:10
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maddawg3if you have an encrypted partition you need EVERY SINGLE block and that is not something ddrescue can do lkyw19:10
maddawg3i'm a forensics major... trust me i know19:11
maddawg3recovering encryption keys from a drive is a near impossible task unless you have some serious money and time19:11
Jordan_Umeek_geek: I think the simplest way to investigate what non-free components are included in Ubuntu is to look at a "completely Free" distribution like gNewSense (whose website unfortunately seems to be down at the moment).19:11
maddawg3and not to mention really fast and powerful computers, and even then you'll probably only have a 50% chance of it working19:11
cyfordPici,   sorry wrong channel19:11
apb1963maddawg3: school was so long ago I don't remember ;)  I suspect that if we look into how I'm formatting it, you're going to suggest I use gparted to do so...19:12
nashantHow do I find out what package contains a program?19:12
meek_geekJordan_U, Trisquel / Parabola are perfect examples19:12
lkywmaddawg3, you mean a single file is recovered from its pieces (named blocks)19:12
lkyw?19:12
meek_geekbut i want to know about Ubuntu as well19:12
maddawg3apb1963 well i use gparted personally, but that's not the ONLY program the can reformat drives.... it was a suggestion cuz it's one i'm very familiar with19:12
maddawg3lkyw yes19:12
Gorrothomg java, why can't you die19:12
EpicRainbowWhat is the Ubuntu help subchannel?19:13
daftykins!ot | Gorroth19:13
ubottuGorroth: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!19:13
maddawg3apb1963 from what you told me you did it sounds like you know how to reformat a drive and if you used gparted and got the same issue my next step would be to try a dfferent drive and see if you get the same issue19:13
apb1963maddawg3: I understand...  does gparted rely on the OS's underlying tools, or does it use it's own algorhythms to write to the disk?19:13
maddawg3if the other drive gives the same issue then maybe there is a software issue19:13
lkywJordan_U, these drives contained the needed file, but the file was wiped once. can any tool be tried to bring it back?19:14
daftykinsapb1963: have you looked at the SMART data of this strange disk?19:14
apb1963Jordan_U: so far, 0/0/0 errors.  4.25% done.19:14
maddawg3apb1963 not entirely sure, but i believe it uses it's own thing19:14
GorrothOh, okay.  I guess we will continue not answer Ubuntu questions here, since most of the people don't have the answers.  You probably would've just been better off not responding to my comment, btw.19:14
nashantI don't seem to have the dialog command, and I can't install it19:15
apb1963daftykins: strange?  It's a 128 GB USB 2.0 stick/drive.  Does it even _have_ SMART data?19:15
daftykinsapb1963: oh a flash drive, ok... i didn't see the earlier part of this conversation19:16
Jordan_Ulkyw: No software tool. Normal software can only read what the drive gives it, which will always be the last data successfully written (or garbage, if the drive is failing). I've heard claims that fancy forensic tools (taking the drive apart in a clean room) can recover overwritten data.19:16
llutz!info dialog  | nashant19:16
ubottunashant: dialog (source: dialog): Displays user-friendly dialog boxes from shell scripts. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2-20130928-1 (trusty), package size 287 kB, installed size 1072 kB19:16
EpicRainbowI need some help with Grub2. It works fine but the Grub screen resolution is in the 600's. I just installed the latest Nvidia driver and everything is smooth now too. I already edited /etc/default/grub and changed GRUB_GFXMODE to 1920x1080. After that I did sudo update-grub. However the screen resolution hasn't changed. How can I fix that?19:16
nashantllutz: Well in that case my apt seems to be broken.19:16
user1345are you back testdr?19:17
maddawg3daftykins yea it's a flash drive... he reformatted from exfat to ntfs19:17
nashantnope19:17
nashantfixed19:17
maddawg3but he keeps getting errors mounting it... i suggested trying to use a different flash drive to see if he had the same issue but we keep going around in circles19:17
nashantA few reboots and it's now ok it would seem19:17
aFeijodamn, my ubuntu 14.04 wont mount my Galaxy S4 thru the USB cable... not an original cable, does it matter?19:17
lkywJordan_U, maybe the tools you refer to are those about which I talked with people today. scrambling the drive, inserting the flash in a reader, getting the raw data out, and sorting it. is it what you refer to?19:18
Jordan_Ulkyw: So if you're desparate, you can pay a *lot* of mony (likely at least in the thousands USD) to someone who will almost certainly still fail to retrieve your old password or keyring from some unknown portion of the drive. But realize that no matter how much money you spend, you're still much more likely to come out of it with much less money and no more data.19:19
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planetmakerask the NSA for their backup copy of your drive or password ;)19:20
Under-C-Captanybody have some insight on wireless not connecting automatically after suspend?19:20
lkywJordan_U, do you mean this for the raw data method I wrote about?19:20
Under-C-Capti tried checking "available to all users" and havent tried to suspend the box yet19:21
apb1963daftykins: My original message:  so I reformatted my brand new128GB USB 2.0 stick from exFAT to NTFS... 6+ hours later, it said it was successful. Then I ran fsck on it. I get "$MFTMirr does not match $MFT (record 3). Remount failed: Input/output error" Any ideas? ubuntu 12.0419:21
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lkywplanetmaker, if you can guarantee me that they have a copy of every hard drive, I can do that19:21
maddawg3well they wont do it19:22
maddawg3lol even if they did19:22
planetmakersorry, I live in a target country of NSA. Not a source country19:22
Under-C-Captah i see I need a more "n00bish" channel any suggestions?  I'm new to this server19:22
maddawg3that would mean they'd have to admit they have all your files, which they very well may, but if you asked for backup copies they'd tell you to take a hike and that you are crazy19:22
apb1963soooooo tired of my irc client continually crashing :(19:22
daftykinsapb1963: not sure that running fsck on NTFS is wise in the first instance.19:22
apb1963daftykins: fsck.ntfs19:23
maddawg3i still vote trying another drive19:23
lkywJordan_U, other people haven't been so hopeless about searching the drive. now we may be really getting out of ubuntu terrain, but I'm curious, because you also said that you heard them as "claims". if we refer to the same thing.19:24
maddawg3if the other drive works then we know it's a problem with the failed drive, therefore we can either figure out what the problem is OR just say screw it19:24
planetmakerlkyw, anyway, to restore physically overwritten data requires attaching a new read-out method to the drive which does not read 1 or 0 but reads the values in between for each bit. That might give later an idea as to what was ther prior to the last write. Or maybe not. Anyway, much money and effort involved19:24
maddawg3flash drives are a dime a dozen these days19:24
bhuvan_hi friends.. i need help regarding my sound drivers... where can i post my query?19:24
maddawg3in fact i found an 8GB flash at school yesterday19:24
Jordan_UUnder-C-Capt: This channel is perfectly fine for new users. If nobody answers your question it just means that nobody that's active at the moment knows the answer.19:24
apb1963maddawg3: how much do you pay for a 128 GB drive?19:24
maddawg3bhuvan right here19:24
TBotNikAll, can not get movies to play on my kubuntu 12.04 LTS desktop.  Wrote this up at:  http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-linux/201626-video-player-2.html#post95181419:24
Under-C-Captoic lol19:24
bhuvan_hi, im facing an issue with trusty.. aplay -l doesnt list my sound card19:25
maddawg3apb1963 those are like maybe $50 at bestbuy19:25
Guest48378apb1963, "... $MFTMirr does not match $MFT (record 3).  While I don't know what that is,  ..." => likely logical error (just reformat) => http://www.ntfs.com/ntfs-mft.htm19:25
Under-C-CaptI am quickly rediscovering this linux flavor and I love it more and more the more I use it19:25
bhuvan_neither it is visible in the sound preferences19:25
TBotNikAll, hope someone out here know how to unravel all the player/codec issues, cause never tried any AV stuff before!19:25
maddawg3microcenter has them for less19:25
lkywcan the money point be bettered if one has access to university?19:25
apb1963maddawg3: you must be loaded!  I'm poor.19:25
maddawg3Guest48378 he's done that many times19:25
maddawg3apb1963... ummm no... $50 is less than a tank of gas19:26
planetmakerlkyw, no. What would a university help there?19:26
daftykinsapb1963: i still don't think that's wise. rather than be concerned with its' condition under Linux, reformat it in Windows then copy data to and from it - if it's ok, fine - if not, bigger problems.19:26
maddawg3but either way your drive might be under warranty19:26
lkywplanetmaker, the infrastructure, maybe19:26
planetmakeryou need an IT forensics lab and specialist. As said: prices are in the k€ for these services19:26
maddawg3apb1963 if you try another drive and the reformating works then something is clearly wrong with the 128gb19:26
maddawg3that's what I do planetmaker19:27
maddawg3and i told him that recovering that stuff is not something he can do at home and even if he hired one of us i cant even give him a 50% guarentee19:27
planetmakerthen you got a prospective customer here :D19:27
maddawg3guarantee*19:27
apb1963Guest48378: it sounds like a logical error to me too.19:27
sarahSwhat is the best practice for creating scheduled bootable backups of my box with ubuntu 14.04?19:28
maddawg3apb1963 that can also happen with a hardware error not just logical19:28
sarahSlots of conflicting info on the web...19:28
bhuvan_im facing an issue with trusty.. aplay -l doesnt list my sound card, nor it is visible in the sound preferences.. while booting it says hda-intel no audio codecs found19:28
Under-C-Captargg my frikken domain name still doesnt work w/ me olde google site!!19:28
maddawg3if it's losing connection it can happen19:28
apb1963daftykins: I did that first...   hang on... let me find the error that returned...19:28
maddawg3sarahS what are you using to back it up?19:28
maddawg3there are lots of "correct" ways19:28
sarahSnothing yet....so far thinking rsync19:29
maddawg3hence why you are getting conflicting stuff online19:29
sarahSbut will need to figure out how to handle grub etc19:29
sarahSi just wanted opinions as to what the best strategy is19:29
apb1963sarahS: Look into Back In Time...  it uses rsync as the back end.  Makes life a lot easier... took me a few minutes to figure out but now I'm reasonably happy with it's ease of use.19:30
Guest48378apb1963, I found this, see #5 => http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133320519:30
sarahSapb1963: can it be scheduled? cron job?19:30
apb1963sarahS: it does it for you automagically.19:30
braindropsarahS: I'm a fan of rsync for backups of any kind. very powerful tool, requires some work to make it do exactly what you want19:30
sarahSthanks....reading up on it now.19:31
Under-C-Captautomagically lol I like that19:31
maddawg3see look at that article apb193... hardware fault19:31
sarahSbraindrop: me too, but this box is more important than my personal ones....so I'm kinda scared to trust myself working directly with rsync19:31
maddawg3if you want to know if it's a hardware fault then try another drive19:31
TBotNikRepeating All, can not get movies to play on my kubuntu 12.04 LTS desktop.  Wrote this up at:  http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-linux/201626-video-player-2.html#post95181419:32
TBotNikAll, hope someone out here know how to unravel all the player/codec issues, cause never tried any AV stuff before!19:32
apb1963maddawg3: so far, I'm getting 0 errors from badblocks program.  Only 6% done though.19:32
maddawg3sarahs I wish i could help but i dont make bootable copies... other than the snapshots my vmware server takes..  i have my files sftp to a backup location internally tho19:32
maddawg3apb1963: again WHY ARE YOU WASTING YOUR TIME? try another drive19:33
maddawg3that will answer it19:33
wilee-nileeTBotNik, Have you installed the restricted-extras?19:33
maddawg3if the other drive works then it's a hardware issue with the 128GB drive... THEN you can spend hours scanning or testing it with badblocks if that makes you happy19:33
sarahSthis is for a server...so if it goes down, (which we have had happen) we want to be able to just swap it out immediately and boot from the backup19:33
sarahSand have most of our state intact19:33
Under-C-CaptI've dealt with an issue like that before w/ the hard drive and sich...these days its usually best to just get a new hard drive storage is so cheap these days19:33
maddawg3sarahS hence why i use vmware snapshots19:34
maddawg3they are instant and automatic19:34
grvi m trying to resister on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration but can't recieve any email by freenode on my typed mail address on the command19:34
Jordan_Ulkyw: What data is so important that you are still trying to hold on to hope of recovery?19:34
maddawg3lkyw have you tried EnCase?19:34
wilee-nileegrv, Ask #freenode19:34
lkywJordan_U everything I have.19:34
maddawg3that MIGHT work, but it's like $3k to buy19:34
lkywmaddawg3, never heard of it19:34
maddawg3and you'll need a VERY long time19:35
maddawg3it's forensics software that we use in police work and fbi work19:35
grvi m trying to resister https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration but not receiving any mail from freenode19:35
maddawg3but it takes training to use19:35
grvi m trying to resister https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration but not receiving any mail from freenode19:35
maddawg3stop repeating yourself19:35
Under-C-Captaic it appears there is no scrollback on my irc client...using plain old XChat...any suggestions for improvement all?19:35
wilee-nilee!patience | grv19:35
ubottugrv: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/19:35
grvi m trying to resister https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration but not receiving any mail from freenode19:35
sarahSmaddawg3: that's an interesting strategy....but if the vmware host goes down (say a failed drive), you would have to rebuild that and reconfigure the dns / static ip etc19:35
Jordan_Ulkyw: What would you say is the most important part of that everything?19:36
sarahSno?19:36
maddawg3sarahS vmware has redundancy19:36
apb1963maddawg3:  I just read it... I don't see where it says anything about it being hardware.... in fact, it explicitly says it's software - as the MFT is the Master File Table19:36
maddawg3we have 32 different hosts and it's a cluster19:36
sarahSfor the guest sure19:36
lkywJordan_U , what difference would it make? when the data is not recoverable?19:36
maddawg3apb1963: wow... did you forget to read ?19:36
maddawg3NTFS is either inconsistent, or there is a hardware fault, or it's a19:36
maddawg3SoftRAID/FakeRAID hardware19:36
sarahSbut the machine the vmware is hosted on is the weak link there19:36
maddawg3there are 3 possibilities... seeing as you dont use RAID on it that cant be the issue19:37
gaurav_1i m trying to resister https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration but not receiving any mail from freenode19:37
gaurav_1i m trying to resister https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration but not receiving any mail from freenode19:37
maddawg3if NTFS is inconsistent then MAYBE it will be inconsistent on the other drive19:37
Picigaurav_1: please ask in #freenode19:37
Jordan_Ugaurav_1: Please join #freenode for questions about / problems with registering.19:37
wilee-nileegaurav_1, Stop repeating go to #freenode and address it there19:37
maddawg3if it's a hardware fault then the other drive will fix that19:37
maddawg3MFT does not mean it isnt hardware19:38
maddawg3you need hardware for an NFT to even work apb196319:38
maddawg3it isn't just magically there, if there is something wrong with the drive then there will be something wrong with the MFT19:39
maddawg3i dont know how else to explain it apb1963 and frankly i dont know why you wont just take the 3 seconds it's gonna take to try another drive19:39
robotdevilhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=867076 is this still relevant ?19:39
maddawg3JUST TRY IT19:39
wilee-nileerobotdevil, IN what way?19:40
robotdevilits quite dated19:40
K1rkHello is there a way to define a custom /etc/cron.d/ path?  I'd like to make my own custom /etc/cron.Xyz/ path that can contain working Cron files.  I want /etc/cron.d/ to continue to function.19:41
wilee-nileerobotdevil, In general for conky yes, however there are thousands probably millions of links on the web for conky.19:41
apb1963maddawg3: Formatting takes longer than 3 seconds.... I started the badblocks programming and I have a mental block against throwing away time already invested.  It takes 6+ hours (I went to bed after that so I don't have the actual time) to format a 128GB disk...  OTH, I do have an 8GB drive, but I'd still have to kill the job in progress to do it.19:41
apb1963s/programming/program/19:42
wilee-nileerobotdevil, Pretty basic stuff, that wont brick your computer so not much to worry about.19:42
maddawg3true apb1963 but if it doesnt work then imagine you'll be saving 6+ hours by not running badblocks19:42
maddawg3cuz then we'll know it's not the drive19:42
maddawg3if we discover it is the drive then call the manufacture and get a warranty replacement.. usually they have a 1yr warranty on those things19:43
robotdevilwilee-nilee: yes had it running before. Used a sample.rc before thou, would like a from scratch.19:44
maddawg3like a mecahnic isn't gonna just rip your engine out if you say your car doesnt work cuz that'd take too long19:44
maddawg3they'd start with the easy solutions then go to the more difficult one19:44
robotdevilalso need to know how to load it boot without using the DE autostart option19:44
maddawg3also if badblocks comes back as failed and didnt repair anything you will have wasted all the time scanning a drive that was unfixable in the first place19:45
maddawg3if you try another drive and it works then you'll know for sure something is wrong with the 128GB... ONLY then you can choose to run badblocks to see if you can either figure it out or repair it19:46
maddawg3if you cant then get a warranty replacement... these are the logical steps to try...19:46
TBotNikwilee-nilee: Never saw any HOWTO mentioning such a thing!19:46
apb1963maddawg3: Unfortunately I don't speak or read Chinese, so I don't know who the manufacturer is... got it off ebay... and while I could in fact return it, and will likely end up doing so... I think it's not unreasonable to run a test program on the drive that's not working, rather than trying to make assumptions based on what a DIFFERENT drive does or does not do.19:46
wilee-nileerobotdevil> also need to know how to load it boot without using the DE autostart option Start at boot that makes no sense.19:47
apb1963maddawg3: ultimately, I'll do both.19:47
maddawg3apb1963 that makes zero sense... you dont know if it's drive issue or not at this point19:47
wilee-nileeTBotNik, Context please.19:47
maddawg3for all we know something could be going wrong with the formatting process, but we don't know that cuz you didnt try to format another drive19:48
robotdevilwilee-nilee: it need to know where to load it instead of in using the desktop environments auto start feature19:48
maddawg3if you format ANOTHER drive successfully then we can rule out the software messing up the format19:48
maddawg3if it's a software problem THEN we can help... if it's a hardware issue we cant19:48
robotdevilwilee-nilee: read from an /etc folder I imagine19:49
wilee-nileeTBotNik, Ah the restricted extras it is in wiki's.19:49
apb1963maddawg3: but it's 10% done!19:49
wilee-nileerobotdevil, This a school assignment?19:49
maddawg3ok then come back when it's done19:49
maddawg3clearly we cant help you now19:49
robotdevilwilee-nilee: ??? :-)19:50
wilee-nileeTBotNik, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats19:50
wilee-nileerobotdevil, Simple question.19:50
maddawg3i also fail to see why you can format a drive while that is scanning19:50
maddawg3do you not have more than 1USB port available?19:50
wilee-nileerobotdevil, I asked as we don;t do homework here, sounds like homework.19:51
apb1963maddawg3: I do... but if I use a different port, then we've introduced an additional variable.19:51
robotdevilwilee-nilee: thought you might know, sorry19:51
apb1963maddawg3: maybe there's something wrong with the port... not the drive.19:51
wilee-nileerobotdevil, And to me the lack of an answer points to homework. ;)19:51
maddawg3did you try the drive in another port then?19:51
apb1963maddawg3: no, didn't think of that until just now19:51
wilee-nileeand how you have worded you requests19:52
apb1963maddawg3: and quite honestly, I'm a bit afraid of formatting a second one... if it fails, I may end up with TWO unusable drives.19:52
maddawg3you can just format the other one back using another computer19:52
guywithquestionshello?19:53
wilee-nileeguywithquestions, goodbye?19:53
wilee-nilee;)19:53
apb1963maddawg3: I don't have another computer.19:53
wilee-nileeguywithquestions, no need for hello's state the support issue to the channel for help.19:54
guywithquestionssorry it was taking awhile to load yall19:54
arvatHi evrybody19:56
amriunixarvat what's up !!! :)19:57
lmatwhen I run VNC server, it slows things down a lot. Also, the update is painfully slow (even when the viewer is running on the same machine!)19:58
lmatI'm running Unity. Are there any tricks I should be making use of?19:58
pdo_fn14Feels weird in firefox, liking I'm affected with scam.19:59
guywithquestionscan i take android off my phone all the way and then put ubuntu on??? i dont want android on at all19:59
amriunixlmat a you use the root per ???19:59
lmatamriunix: I don't understand that question :(19:59
lmatamriunix: What root?20:00
amriunixguywithquestions yeah you can !!! ;)20:00
apb1963maddawg3: what's interesting is that it formatted sucessfully.... normally I'd just start using it but ended up doing the fsck...   Heck, normally I'd just use it out of the box...20:00
DaaniHas anyone encountered this problem when trying to install ubuntu instead of windows 7, i have a bootable usb, ubuntu install files on it, restart my computer with the correct setting of booting from usb. Computer says "Reboot and Select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key"20:00
Daanii made the usb bootable in windows 720:00
amriunixlmat i mean have you run the vnc server with the root permission ????20:01
planetmakeryou need to select "boot from usb" in your bios, Daani20:01
lmatamriunix: Nope. Should I?20:01
pdo_fn14Clicking some query in Ctrl+K, but how to revert it back to no redirected anymore20:01
Daaniplanetmaker, i have set the 1st boot device as my removable device(usb)20:01
amriunixlmat yeah dude !!!20:01
lmatamriunix: okay, just a sec ^_^20:02
compdoclmat, you should be able to run vncserver as your user20:02
lmatcompdoc: I am able to.20:02
guywithquestionsarmunix, how do i do all that?20:02
lmatcompdoc: It runs fine....except that it's *painfully* slow.20:02
Jordan_UDaani: How did you get ubuntu to "install files on" your USB drive?20:03
amriunixlmat every is good ???20:03
lmatcompdoc: The server slows down tremendously, and it takes many seconds to get the image back to the client (even though the client is on the same machine!)20:03
lmatamriunix: NO! It's exactly the same ^_^20:03
compdoclmat, you use an encripted tunnel, like a vpn?20:03
lmatno. It's the same machine!20:03
amriunixlmat every think is good ???20:03
DaaniJordan_U:  sorry, the spelling was not correct. the files from the image are placed on the usb20:04
lmatI don't know about every think, but the performance is very bad.20:04
compdocrunning the client from the same machine might be the roblem20:04
compdocproblem20:04
lmatcompdoc: hmm20:04
lmatcompdoc: Does it matter if it's a virtual machine? ^_^20:04
amriunixlmat may be the performance of the picture or what ????20:05
lmatIt didn't used to be a problem. I had run this before and it worked pretty well :(20:05
guywithquestionsarmunix, how do i do that?20:05
maddawg3Daani that's not how you create a bootable USB20:05
amriunixguywithquestions bro what kind of mobile device you have ????20:05
lkywcould you please tell me how I denote a file location on terminal: for ex. if my ubuntu username is lkyw, would this be true: /dev/sda1/lkyw/Documents/file.txt ?20:05
maddawg3are you trying to create a bootable USB with the ubuntu live image on it daani?20:05
compdocgotta reboot20:06
Jordan_UDaani: You can't just copy files to a USB drive to make the drive bootable. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu20:06
planetmakerDaani, dd if=/path/to/boot_iso of=/dev/usbdevice20:06
lmatlkyw: no20:06
maddawg3http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows20:06
maddawg3oops20:06
planetmakerworked for me20:06
maddawg3Jordan_U beat me to it20:07
lmatlkyw: You may be looking for  ~/Documents/file.txt ?20:07
SkoobyNoobwasup peep20:07
SkoobyNoobs20:07
wilee-nileeDaani, What app did you use to load the usb in windows?20:07
lmatlkyw: your home directory (~) is at  /home/$USER20:07
lkywlmat, what would be the correct one then? I need a location which contains "/dev/sda1"20:07
maddawg3he didnt wilee-nilee he just copied them from the image and flagged the drive as bootable20:07
lmatlkyw: Why ?20:07
wilee-nileeSkoobyNoob, Do you have a support issue for the channel?20:07
guywithquestionsi have a virgin mobile kyrocera phone20:07
maddawg3he cant do that20:07
lmatlkyw: (In other words, you can't do that, but maybe you can do what you want in another way ^_^)20:07
lkywlmat, sorry, it must be /dev/sdb120:07
SkoobyNoobyes20:07
lmatlkyw: don't matter ^_^20:07
SkoobyNoobi have plenty of support issues20:07
maddawg3ok SkoobyNoob.. then just ask20:08
wilee-nileeSkoobyNoob, Than spit it out in detail to the channel please20:08
lmatlkyw: /dev/sdb1 is a file (if you have a sane linux), not a directory.20:08
lkywlmat, I'd like to show a file location of an external drive on terminal20:08
SkoobyNoobwell first20:08
wilee-nileeSkoobyNoob, I one post and stop with the comments.20:08
wilee-nileeIn*20:08
lkywthat is what I want to do20:08
SkoobyNoobwhat kind of support you guys serve?20:08
maddawg3... free support20:08
wilee-nileeSkoobyNoob, Ubuntu support20:08
SkoobyNoobok badass20:08
wilee-nileeSkoobyNoob, Read the channel header20:09
maddawg3free ubuntu support... not emotional20:09
SkoobyNoobyeah20:09
SkoobyNoobi did20:09
SkoobyNoobbut you come across some wierd channels20:09
maddawg3then why did you ask?20:09
wilee-nileeSkoobyNoob, Dude you are spammimg the channel get to the issue and post it all in one post.20:09
SkoobyNoobim new to ubuntu20:09
lmatlkyw: Then you need to mount that drive.20:09
SkoobyNoobim new to linux20:09
lmatlkyw: check   ls /media/$USER20:09
SkoobyNoobactually20:09
wilee-nileeoff to ignore with yah20:10
SkoobyNoobbut i been picking uppretty good this past week20:10
maddawg3OK THEN ASK THE DAMN QUESTION SKOOBYNOOB, OR LEAVE20:10
qin!caps | maddawg320:10
qinoh20:10
Jordan_Umaddawg3: Please drop the caps and watch your language.20:11
lkywlmat, it lists the name of the drive20:11
lmatlkyw: okay, then get a listing in there!20:11
lmatlkyw: In other words, that's what you're looking for20:11
lkywlmat, thank you! but it is not what I need20:11
guywithquestionshey does anybody know how to totally erase android on a phone and then put on ubuntu? i dont want it on at all20:11
lmatlkyw: ls  /media/$USER/<name of drive>/<whatever directory you want>/<file>20:11
SkoobyNoobi sorry dude im at work20:12
SkoobyNooband i hae to do other things while im doing this also20:12
OerHeks!phone | guywithquestions20:12
ubottuguywithquestions: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch20:12
SkoobyNoobi want to change a bluetooth address20:12
SkoobyNoobi downloaded bluez20:12
maddawg3change  a bluetooth address ?20:12
SkoobyNoobthe latest version20:12
SkoobyNoobyes20:13
maddawg3i'm not sure what you mean20:13
lkywlmat, now it became clear for me, it works, thank you!20:13
SkoobyNoobchange the mac address20:13
lmatlkyw: I'm glad and happy and extatic and excited for you!20:13
lmatlkyw: I think I'll go listen to Simon and Garfunkle now20:13
nashantI don't suppose anyone can help me getting HDMI audio from my nvidia GT210 can they? I'm currently messing around with pacmd and pactl but I have no idea what I'm doing20:13
SkoobyNoobso i can hook up a headset that20:13
lkywlmat, good for you! I hope you keep that spirit for the remaining hours20:13
SkoobyNoobuses a dongle20:14
SkoobyNoobbut i wanna hook it up to my tablet20:14
maddawg3skoobynoob first... why do you need to change the MAC address for that? second I'm not sure what bluez is, 3rd have you looked here: http://blog.petrilopia.net/hacking/change-your-bluetooth-device-mac-address/20:14
Jordan_USkoobyNoob: What is your end goal? (Please try to answer on a single line, to avoid cluttering the channel).20:14
jcabbSkoobyNoob, bdaddr should do it20:14
SkoobyNoobyes i have bdaddr20:15
SkoobyNoobwell my tablet wont catch my headset20:15
maddawg3did you read that information SkoobyNoob?20:15
SkoobyNoobi figure since it needs a dongle20:15
maddawg3huh?20:15
SkoobyNooband i know you can change the mac address of a sixasis controller20:16
SkoobyNoobso i  figure you could do that on almost any device20:16
maddawg3first your bluetooth needs to support HSP profile20:16
maddawg3why does the MAC address have anything to do with the headset skoobynoob20:16
SkoobyNoobbecause that is the address of the bluettooth20:17
maddawg3....20:17
maddawg3that makes no sense20:17
SkoobyNoobbluetooth mac address20:17
Jordan_USkoobyNoob: So your and goal is to get your bluetooth headset to work with your tablet? And your tablet is running Ubuntu?20:17
maddawg3why does that matter for connecting to the headset20:17
maddawg3the mac address is just a hardware identifier20:17
SkoobyNoobno my tablet doesnt run ubuntu20:17
maddawg3well then you are definitley in the wrong channel20:18
maddawg3lol20:18
SkoobyNoobim using bdaddr in ubuntu20:18
maddawg3.....20:18
SkoobyNoobin my laptop20:18
SkoobyNoobyou guys are like desperate or something20:18
maddawg3well you cant change the mac address with another computer20:18
SkoobyNoobinstead of helping20:18
maddawg3the mac address is hardcoded... however you can FAKE one with ubuntu, but that wont matter if you are moving it to antoehr machine20:18
SkoobyNoobok whywould you be able o change the address of the ps3 controller?20:19
maddawg3what?20:19
maddawg3you cant20:19
SkoobyNoobusing ubuntu20:19
SkoobyNoobi have20:19
maddawg3you can only change it on the computer that it's connected to... the PS3 controller will still have the same MAC20:19
maddawg3no you changed it on the computer it was paired with20:19
maddawg3NOT on the device it self20:19
Jordan_USkoobyNoob: Why do you think that changing the MAC address of your headset will make it work in your tablet? Are you trying to follow some guide?20:19
* jcabb laughs...20:19
SkoobyNoobthen why would you have to connect the remote20:20
SkoobyNoobi think you dont know what you are talking about20:20
maddawg3the MAC is hard coded by the manufacture to the device... you can tell the OS to see it as a different one, but if you take your dongle and connect it to another machine it will be whatever the manufacture gave it20:20
wilee-nileeSkoobyNoob, This is not twitter there are protocols, and not having an nattitude is one, reading questions and answering is two, and not spamming the channel with BS id third.20:20
SkoobyNoobi would suggest you research before you try mocking me20:20
maddawg3ummm actually i do20:20
* Okaria breaks out the popcorn20:20
maddawg3omg someone ban skoobynoob he is being helped and acting like a bieb20:21
SkoobyNoobif the address on the remote isnt changed20:21
SkoobyNoob?20:21
SkoobyNoobthen why do i have to connect it to my pc give it the addres of my tablet20:21
maddawg3that was broken english20:21
maddawg3what ?20:22
SkoobyNooblet me give you a link20:22
Jordan_Umaddawg3: Please don't be over dramatic, and certainly don't resort to name calling. I am an op and I am aware of the situation.20:22
PiciSkoobyNoob: Can you please start over? What are you trying to accomplish.  (and please stop pressing enter between every 2 words)20:22
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maddawg3SkoobyNoob yes a link would help, and also understanding what bluetooth dongle you are using and with what headset20:23
maddawg3we have no information to go on... but i can tell you I don't see how changing a MAC address allows you to connect a headset so maybe explaining where you got that information20:23
SkoobyNoobhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=180890320:23
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SkoobyNoobwell if changing the mac id of the ps3 remote20:24
SkoobyNoobi can control my tablet20:24
SkoobyNoobwith it20:24
SkoobyNoobthen i should be able to listen to music20:25
SkoobyNoobthrough this headset20:25
SkoobyNoobif i can program it to connect to my tablet20:25
SkoobyNoobwithout the dongle20:25
jcabbSkoobyNoob, type out your sentences!  your 4 words a line crap is getting old...20:25
SkoobyNoobdamn20:26
bitcoinassassinhi. I would like to be able to boot into my 12LTS install and copy /move everything from my encrypted home partition to another drive and then never do that again. here are details http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7590093/20:26
maddawg3SkoobyNoob first that is for connecting a PS3 controller not a headset, and second that's for use on an android20:26
maddawg3we are not an android channel20:26
SkoobyNoobyes20:26
SkoobyNoobi know20:26
bitcoinassassin... or you could just do what I did and ignore SkoobyNoob....20:26
SkoobyNoobit is for andorid20:26
maddawg3yes ... we are ubuntu20:26
SkoobyNoobbut i you use a pc20:26
bitcoinassassinwe are legion. expect us.20:27
maddawg3try in "#Android"20:27
SkoobyNoobi dont need android20:27
planetmakerbitcoinassassin, so... just mount both drives and cp -rp /path/drive1 /path/drive2 ?20:27
SkoobyNoobnever mind you are a bunch of glorified assholes20:27
maddawg3but you are trying to connect a headset and you arent even given us what headset you are trying to connect20:27
maddawg3these instructions are for something VERY different than what you are wanting to do SkoobyNoob20:28
bitcoinassassinplanetmaker, but......... the home partition is encrypted20:28
planetmakerwell, if you're logged-in you can read it and it's unencrypted upon read of a file?20:28
bitcoinassassinno, please read the pastebin if you haven't already20:28
jcabbbitcoinassassin, i just read it.. sec20:29
planetmakeryou need to be logged-in as the user whose home partition is encrypted20:29
bitcoinassassinjcabb, thanks20:29
bitcoinassassinplanetmaker, if I could boot the system which i can't which I explained20:29
bitcoinassassinin the pastebin20:30
greekHi fellas. I've got a Acer K132 portable LED projector. Only has HDMI cable. I have a HDMI to USB adapter. Plugged it into my Lenovo ThinkPad running Ubuntu 12.04. The output of lsusb picks up the USB device as "Newnham Research". My projected image however still says "no signal". In display settings, clicking on "Detect displays" doesn't do anything. Any tips? Thanks20:30
jcabbbitcoinassassin, this URL should help you get that back.  http://www.howtogeek.com/116297/how-to-recover-an-encrypted-home-directory-on-ubuntu/20:30
bitcoinassassinjcabb, ok, I've read all those...... isn't there a way to figure out why the computer won't boot? and just fix that...? because that would be much simpler or am I being naieve20:31
maddawg3also for the record SkoobyNoob they didnt change the MAC address of the PS3 controller they changed the MAC address of the phone to be the same as the USB dongle20:31
maddawg3that's very different20:31
bitcoinassassinjcabb, but thank you20:31
jcabbbitcoinassassin, based on the tone of your writeup I assumed you wanted to recover, rebuild and never do that again. :)20:31
jcabbbitcoinassassin, it boils down to how much time you want to put into this20:32
bitcoinassassinjcabb, the recover an encrypted home directory is more time consuming, I realize this; which is why I'd really like to just fix the boot problem if I can20:32
bitcoinassassin*of20:32
OerHeksbitcoinassassin, did you store your passphrase  ?20:33
bitcoinassassinOerHeks, indeed, yes.20:33
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maddawg3SkoobyNoob the reason they did that was so the PS3 controller would think it was connecting to the same device... they did it to fool the PS3 controller.  I dont know why you would need to do that with a headset though20:34
maddawg3the PS3 controller STILL has the same MAC it was built with, the computer's bluetooth MAC on the other hand has been "spoofed"20:34
Picilets move on20:35
OerHeksbitcoinassassin, you could mount the encrypted home from live cd, https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/ecryptfs.html or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory20:35
OerHeksbitcoinassassin, did you try to boot in recovery mode first?20:36
jimI'm looking for a net monitor, seen one that does tcp and icmp at least, and has a curses interface... anything like that still around?20:39
bitcoinassassinOerHeks, yes, I get to the recovery screen20:42
jayefftreehola20:45
Guido1Hello, I'm searching for a new latop to put xubuntu on. I already made a basic comparision, but now it's about the grafikcard and the processor etc. on http://www.heise.de/preisvergleich/?cat=nb&asuch=Cardreader&asd=on&bpmax=700&v=e&filter=aktualisieren&xf=2379_15.4~69_Nummernblock~28_2000~83_LCD%20matt%20%28non-glare%29~893_4~2377_17.9~3310_2013~2647_40&sort=p you can see which futures are available for me and I'm interested in the different20:45
Guido1advantages and disadvantages expecialy in regard to working with linux20:45
bitcoinassassinI am running $sudo ecryptfs-recover-private and the search is on20:45
bitcoinassassinGuido1........ hmmm........ not a shopping guide20:46
koberHey, I have a computer that has a wifi card but no monitor/gui, so I want to connect to the WPA wifi over CLI and I'm having trouble finding modern information20:46
koberEveryone says to install wpa_supplicant and configure it, but its already installed and running in ubuntu 14.0420:46
Guido1bitcoinassassin: I heard that some grafic cards cause trouble with linux.20:47
koberWhat is the best way to do WPA wifi via ssh?20:47
jhutchinskober: installed and running does not equal configured.  You need to select the ssid and provide the key.20:47
koberif I currently have it wired in20:47
bitcoinassassinGuido1 well, first, give the graphic card name and not a link to some hardware configuration...... in german, no less........20:48
koberjhutchins: Yeah, thats what I'm trying to figure out how to do.  I created a /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf but not sure what to do from there20:48
jimkober, so you're sshed in over a wired connection to the machine?20:48
koberjim: yeah20:48
koberjim: and I want to get it on the wifi20:48
munroHello!  I just installed Ubuntu, and hosts aren't being saved to "known_hosts" ... I just get "Host key verification failed.20:48
jimpls say more about "get it"20:48
Guido1bitcoinassassin: graficcard producers: AMD (dediziert) (4) AMD (IGP) (3) Intel (IGP) (45) NVIDIA (dediziert)20:49
bitcoinassassinis there and #xubunbu channel? I don't know20:49
matthiaskrgrhow do I add the utopic ppa to a system20:49
jhutchinskober: THis might help:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs20:49
bitcoinassassinignore Guido120:49
bitcoinassassinsorry20:49
jhutchinskober: I've done it a couple of times by stumbling through the man pages but not lately.20:49
matthiaskrgr!wiki utopic ppa20:49
ubottumatthiaskrgr: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)20:49
matthiaskrgr:<20:49
munroit's very weird, I can't seem to Google this issue either... only thing that seems to work is using `ssh -o 'StrictHostKeyChecking=no' ...`20:49
Guido1bitcoinassassin: sorry, but I'm not familiar with a the hardware.20:50
koberjhutchins: Yeah, I foudn that, but it is 130 links and a lot of them are for old versions20:50
koberjhutchins: that is why I'm trying to find some modern help20:50
xangua!ubuntu+1 | matthiaskrgr20:50
ubottumatthiaskrgr: Utopic Unicorn is the codename for Ubuntu 14.10 - Support only in #ubuntu+120:50
jhutchinsGuido1: The only way anybody knows whether something is supported is if somebody tries it then reports it somewhere.  You can find accounts on how well various chipsets are supported at http://x.org20:50
matthiaskrgrxangua: ok, thanks20:51
koberjhutchins: I know the settings I need because I have connected another machine with a GUI to this same wifi20:51
koberjhutchins: just need to get it done via the CLI now20:51
jhutchinskober: iirc you can put everything in the interfaces file, more than is in the interfaces man page.20:51
jimkober, is it that you don't have more direct access to the machine? not sure why you're doing the config over ssh20:52
Guido1jhutchins: thought that NVIDIA was a difficult one20:52
koberjim: I don't have to do it over SSH20:52
koberjim: I have physical access20:52
koberjim: I'm just doing it over SSH since it is available20:52
jimso it's probably you get to sit in a chair instead of lie in front of the box with a flashlite in your mouth or something?20:53
uosiuHi all. I'm migrating my system to a new drive (including fresh system install) and I want to migrate all NetworkManager profiles. Is there a way to do that?20:53
jimthe first thing is to find the driver that works with your card and your kernel20:53
koberjim: exactly20:54
koberjhutchins: after I updated network/interfaces, what is the command to get it to re-read and run it?20:55
jimonce you can iwlist scan and see the stuff that's near your house, you know your driver is working20:55
jimthen you would configure it20:55
Jordan_Ukober: sudo ifdown wlan0 && sudo ifup wlan020:55
koberjhutchins: Jordan_U: jim: http://paste.ofcode.org/UX2GJePT5NeKpbQB5EgjXF20:57
jimline 320:58
jimbut then why did it exit20:58
koberjim: Yeah, line 3 isn't very useful20:58
munrohttps://gist.github.com/munro/a9c973c62195b9b96bf9 <-- shell of trying to get known_hosts to work... strangest thing ever20:58
matthiaskrgris there a way to get gcc 4.9 on precise ?20:59
Jordan_Umatthiaskrgr: Why do you want gcc 4.9?20:59
jimI guess you could try building it20:59
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jimthat's kinda... involved...20:59
RickyB98hellou :-) i got this error message while running apt-get -f install ---> http://pastebin.com/0dC2mKTu <--- how can i solve this?20:59
matthiaskrgrJordan_U: -fsanitize=address ; -fsanitize=undefined21:00
Jordan_Umatthiaskrgr: You could make a small trusty chroot using debootstrap.21:00
matthiaskrgrJordan_U: its about travis-ci21:00
xanguaRickyB98: it looks like you have mixed repositories21:00
matthiaskrgr(which runs ubuntu)21:00
matthiaskrgrso building gcc for each job is not an option21:01
RickyB98xangua, urm.. i did? xD21:01
xanguaRickyB98: did what?21:01
noobhey I was teste mac filtering and now I blocked my own connection, I don't know what to do. someone to help me?21:01
koberjim: Looks like it failed because wpa_supplicant is already running21:01
RickyB98did i mix repos?21:02
RickyB98how can i solve that?21:02
koberwhich is true, because ubuntu runs it by default21:02
jimso the startup runs it by default, but somewhere else it's questioning whether it's running?21:02
jimwhat happens when you try iwlist scan?21:03
RickyB98jim you talking to me?21:03
jimno, to kober21:03
RickyB98ah, ok21:03
koberjim: well, wpa_supplicant maybe configured properly now?  So maybe wpa-cfg in /etc/network/interfaces was the wrong thing21:04
koberjim: How do I tell interfaces to connect to an ssid but use the currently running wpa_supplicant instead of launching its own?21:04
jimkober, I'm trying to see if maybe your driver is up now21:05
jimand iwlist scan (as root) is one way to do that, or sudo iwlist scan21:05
virgenmadre Is there some sort of sandbox alternative, to backing up files that I know are infected with windows virus. I am using gsync for this (not doing it yet). Atm I don't have the time to run the virus scanner etc... Find all that stuff and then back it up.21:06
virgenmadreI want to just back it up, is there some program where it automates this, thanks appreciate it.21:07
planetmakervirgenmadre, I'd install windows in a virtualbox VM21:07
virgenmadreI am running Ubuntu 13.10, backing up some XP computer21:07
koberjim: yeah, the scan works just fine21:07
koberjim: My problem isn't the interface itself, its how to tell the interface/wpa_supplicant what to do21:07
planetmakeryou can even download full windows VMs pre-fab for virtualbox from microsoft itself21:07
virgenmadreplanetmaker, ohh interesting, you mean something like robolinux?21:07
planetmakerfor testing purposes: http://modern.ie21:08
planetmakerdunno robolinux.21:08
Jordan_Uvirgenmadre: I don't understand your current situation. You can back up files pretty much however you want, the Windows viruses won't affect Ubuntu.21:08
planetmakeryeah, also that ^21:08
nashantHey. Right, I've got a problem with the OSS drivers and my Radeon HD6450. It's only letting me have 1024x768 resolution rather than 1920x1080. How can I manually change this?21:08
nashantor get it tto change it on its own21:08
virgenmadrehmm I really don't know I can say that. This is the reason why I had to install linux in my friends comp in the first place. They had some MoneyPak scam going on, pretending to be feds pay up or land in jail etc...21:09
rcw2ive been using kubuntu for a couple years or so.  any reason ubuntu is significantly better that anyone wants to comment on21:09
virgenmadrercw2, do you mean Unity?21:09
jimisn't that just ubuntu that defaults to kde?21:10
rcw2or is it mainly a gnome vs kde question21:10
virgenmadreI think its more of a hardware issue21:10
rcw2unity isnt that a game engine21:10
theadminrcw2: Eh, it is, but it's also the name of the default desktop environment in Ubuntu21:10
virgenmadreif you have enough RAM, and KDE is working fine (no audio issues etc...) it really is the best.21:10
virgenmadreThe only possible problem I can see is that its not working properly, hence changing to GNOME.21:11
theadminrcw2: It's also a Linux distribution which makes things even more bloody confusing. Genrally, when you talk about the game engine, you say "Unity3D", when you talk about the desktop, you say "Unity", when you talk about the distro you say "Unity Linux"21:11
virgenmadretheadmin, yeah I have been kind of confused by all that o_O21:11
virgenmadreUnity3D is not from Canonical is it?21:11
rcw2theadmin: so ubuntu might as well be called Unity Linux21:12
virgenmadreI always wondered, geez names can be a pain :P21:12
theadminHas nothing to do with Canonical, it doesn't even work under Linux21:12
theadminrcw2: No, Unity Linux is a separate distro and it runs LXDE by default :P21:12
theadminIs also Redhat based21:12
theadminSo has zero relation to Ubuntu21:12
rcw2theadmin: whyd you mention it21:13
rcw2out of curiousity21:13
jimto have another list item?21:13
theadminrcw2: Eh, just because you asked whether Unity is a game engine so I explained that there are 3 major, well-ḳnown projects called "Unity" which are all different stuff21:13
noobhey I was teste mac filtering and now I blocked my own connection, I don't know what to do. someone to help me?21:13
rcw2theadmin: i was asking for comments on kubuntu vs ubuntu21:14
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theadminrcw2: > <rcw2> unity isnt that a game engine21:14
rcw2anyways, do you have any :)21:14
theadminrcw2: I was replying to that21:14
rcw2sorry it was <virgenmadre> rcw2, do you mean Unity?21:14
theadminrcw2: As for Kubuntu vs Ubuntu... well... KDE is more functional, you may enjoy it if you're coming from Windows or if you're just a power user21:14
theadminrcw2: Regular Ubuntu is nice and friendly but it lacks desktop configurability in many ways21:15
jimunity-the-DE, does that still need DRM?21:15
theadminjim: What kind of DRM are you talking about? It never had any DRM, it's free software21:15
OerHeksjim,  did it ever?21:15
rcw2theadmin: that was one of the reasons i remember switching after checking out ubuntu a while back.  i wonder if anything has changed21:15
jimI coulnd't get it working, well, ever... at that time I couldn't get drm going with my video card21:16
theadminrcw2: Well... A lot has changed since 11.10 which was the first version with Unity21:16
theadminrcw2: But it's still a young desktop so it's lacking in customisability when compared to KDE or even Xfce21:16
rcw2is it much less processor intensive than kde21:17
theadminrcw2: Didn't do any benchmarks but I would say if you can run Ubuntu you should be able to run Kubuntu just fine21:17
jimkde is a huge pile of stuff, so I'll go out on a limb and say yes21:17
theadminjim: It's a huge pile of stuff, but it doesn't all run at the same time, nor is the entire KDESC preinstalled in Kubuntu21:18
virgenmadreplanetmaker, isn't viruses inside a VM and from running in real hardware still the same problem?21:18
jimis that what he has, just what's preinstalled?21:18
virgenmadrei.e. Windows XP from a VM presents you the same problems you had before, bc there are no to security updates anymore.21:19
rcw2does anyone feel that on average basic gnome apps are better developed or are more reliable than kde21:19
planetmakervirgenmadre, what do you want to do with the files?21:19
noobsomeone can help me?21:20
theadminvirgenmadre: XP running in an isolated VM should be secure. I mean, sure, Windows itself has security problems, but it won't harm the host OS21:20
planetmakerand of course, the problem persists, if you really want to use the VM21:20
theadminvirgenmadre: I still run XP for ancient software in a Virtualbox VM21:20
virgenmadretheadmin, even after the security updates have stopped?21:20
Bashing-omnoob: No way to tell with out you say  what the issue is.21:21
planetmakervirgenmadre, it's better in that respect that you only need to run that VM for the tasks it's strictly necessary for. And to the other stuff you don't need windowsXP for from a proper OS which is not virus-ridden21:21
theadminvirgenmadre: Sure. I mean, again, yes, Windows is insecure. It *may* get infected with malware, and so on, but it will never harm the system you are running the VM on if it's isolated (no access to host FS, network, etc)21:21
vilambitah21:22
virgenmadretheadmin, ahh I see, ohh the issue is that this particular hard drive is already seriously infected.21:22
theadminI would avoid XP like fire anyway, it's ancient and if you don't really *need* it then don't run it21:22
virgenmadreif it was my PC I would just get rid of it, but I don't know if they have some directories where they have files they want to keep etc...21:23
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noobBashing-om:thx I was testing mac filtering and now I blocked my own connection, I don't know what to do. someone to help me?21:24
theadminvirgenmadre: Back up personal data using an Ubuntu LiveDVD and purge any .exes from the folders21:24
theadminvirgenmadre: The result should be safe enough to use...21:24
sethjDoes anyone know if the multitouch gestures mentioned on this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch still work? They don't by default anyway.21:24
theadminsethj: This was last edited in 2012, I am almost certain everything has changed since then21:25
sethjtheadmin, that's what I was afraid of :(21:25
Bashing-omnoob: Maybe; Disable the firewall (be prepared to know how to set it up again ) Terminal command -> iptables -F <- .21:26
noobok21:26
noobBashing-om: just that?21:26
Bashing-omnoob: Maybe, depends on what you did, that commnad will flush the rules from iptables.  see : -> man iptables <- for the documentation.21:27
noobBashing-om: iptables v1.4.21: can't initialize iptables table `filter': Permission denied (you must be root) Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded.21:28
Bashing-omnoob: Then try as "root" -> sudo iptables -F <- .21:29
john96I'm trying to ssh into another linux pc. Unfortunetly i'm getting a permission denied error. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7590458/21:29
john96any ideas?21:29
gmachine_24I am having trouble booting to 12.04lts....... when I go to recovery and run $sudo e2fsck /dev/sda5 (the main Linux partition) I get "Superblock last mount time is in the future...." etc. It asks Fix<y>? I always say yes but this resolves nothing and I can do the same procedure again with the same results21:30
theadminjohn96: It appears none of your public keys are known to the server you are connecting to, and it doesn't do password authentication21:30
noobBashing-om: I was also using gpuw firewall... the mac filtering  I was acessing via router admin page, but now I cannot acess the wireless/wi-fi connection and I'm acessing internet via moden21:30
theadmingmachine_24: Is your CMOS battery dead?21:31
planetmakergmachine_24, yes, you miss a correct login. E.g. your key is not installed there or your login is wrong21:31
Bashing-omnoob: I take it the changes were made in the router, then, and not to the operating system ? Time to read the manual for the router.21:31
gmachine_24theadmin, re: cmos battery, I don't know21:31
john96theadmin: Do i really need the public key to be know by the other device in order to ssh into it?21:32
gmachine_24planetmaker, I did not understand your answer21:32
theadmingmachine_24: Do this, load your BIOS setup and check the time. Is it set to some ridiculous date, like 1/1/1970?21:32
theadminjohn96: Yeah21:32
noobBashing-om: nothing happend... i don't have the router manual but I can search it on line, I tried reseting the router and acessing the old IP default settings21:32
theadmingmachine_24: planetmaker got the wrong person, lol21:32
noobbut it doesn't seem to work21:32
planetmakerbah... my answer was meant for john96. Sorry21:32
planetmakeryeah. Should go to bed :)21:32
noobBashing-om: but it doesn't seem to work21:32
DonHomerHey Guys - Anyone know of a how-to to get Ubuntu up and running on a Lenovo t431s and if all of the hardware is even compatible?21:33
Jordan_U!hcl | DonHomer21:33
ubottuDonHomer: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection21:33
noobBashing-om: yeah the changes were made in the router page admin I blocked acess via MAC filtering, but I didn't know they would make the chances before adding my own address21:33
Bashing-omnoob: Sometimes what works is to unplug the power from the router wait a couple of minutes, and power back up, maybe will load the defults (??).21:34
gmachine_24theadmin, the clock is correct 6/4/14 17:34:13 tick tock21:34
DonHomerJordan_U: Thanks, checking it out now.21:34
Jordan_UDonHomer: If you can, I try to always go to a store and boot the machine with a LiveCD/USB before I actually buy it, just to be sure.21:34
theadmingmachine_24: Hm, alright then, the battery is ruled out...21:34
gmachine_24or for everyone outside nam 4.16.1421:34
gmachine_24theadmin, I've tried rescue disks.......... reinstalled grub2....... nothing helps21:35
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theadmingmachine_24: Well, it's not a GRUB problem, the problem is with your hard drive's filesystem21:35
DonHomerJordan_U: That's a good idea!21:36
noobBashing-om: I will try, but I did that before I will wait a few minutes21:36
theadminJordan_U: Do stores actually allow that?21:36
DonHomertheadmin: They probably don't but if you're not attracting too much attention I think you might be able to get away with it. At places like BestBuy I doubt they sales people even know what you are doing (not saying that all of BB sales folks are clueless)21:38
noobBashing-om: btw can I acess the router page admin without connecting the router?21:38
Jordan_Utheadmin: I've always asked first, and I've never been told no, but your results may varry.21:39
Bashing-omnoob: There is a bunch I do not know, but, here I know of no way to access the router admin page with out going through a browser.21:39
theadminJordan_U: Depends on the location I guess21:39
gmachine_24theadmin, booting to the recovery there are lots and lots of lines such as [14.404875] cfg80211: Updating information or frequency 2467 Mhz for width channel with regulatory rule:" blah blah blah21:39
theadmingmachine_24: That sounds like something to do with Wi-Fi21:39
theadmingmachine_24: Shouldn't be a problem21:40
gmachine_24oh.ok.21:40
gmachine_24yeah..just never saw it b421:40
jimnoob, out of idle curiousity, how are you here right now?21:40
gmachine_24theadmin, I'm trying a boot with failsafe graphics mode....... bc I've tried everything else21:41
Jordan_Ugmachine_24: Since you're running e2fsck manually, please run "date" just before fsck to be sure it's correct.21:43
spandelHey, everybody. I'm having partitioning issues... Anybody feeling helpful.. And knows a thing or two about these kind of things?21:44
jimspandel, well what is it you want to do?21:45
Bashing-omspandel: Well, for starters, if it is a Windows partition, use Windows tools .21:45
spandelBashing-om: yeah, i read that someplace. But it's not, it's my ubuntu root partition21:46
gmachine_24Jordan_U, as in sudo date e2fsck ...??21:46
Jordan_Ugmachine_24: No, as in "date".21:47
virgenmadreT_T over 400 so far threats found, and I just started. Using clamtk, later I will scan it with F-Prot. Yeah I am not so sure if I want that in the linux hard drive.21:47
Bashing-omspandel: OK proceed as jim request, what is the objective here ?21:47
gmachine_24Jordan_U, lol, ok21:47
spandelthe thing is, gparted suddenly tells me that it has about 4gb of unallocated space in that partition21:47
jimyou're running date to see if your time is set21:47
gmachine_24we've been through the date check before but $date yields Wed jun 4 09:47:43 EDT 2014.... which, granted, is 8 hours off21:48
spandeli originally just gave it 20gb, so 4gb is quite a lot for me here21:49
Bashing-omspandel: How does -> sudo fdisk -lu <- compare to what GParted sees (from the liveDVD ).21:49
jimspandel, so the objective is to see why it's doing that?21:49
gmachine_24so I'm guessing the date is ok?21:49
gmachine_24or no.........?21:49
spandeljim: Well, yeah. but also to fix it21:49
jimok. when you say fix it, had you written the partition table already?21:49
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Jordan_Ugmachine_24: 8 Hours off is 8 hours off, especially if you went back in time.21:50
Jordan_Ugmachine_24: Do you dual boot with Windows?21:50
gmachine_24Jordan_U, yes21:50
jimspandel, when you started was it a new unused drive?21:50
gmachine_24Jordan_U, the bios clock is correct, if that is important21:51
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spandelBashing-om: i don't have a live-dvd at this time21:51
spandeljim: it was new, but it had windows 8 installed at it from the beginning21:51
jimdo you want to keep that?21:52
john96How can i force an ssh client machine to not try to use a public key as authentication. To force it to prompt for a user password instead?21:52
spandeljim: the thing is i am pretty confident that it wasn't like this from the beginning21:52
spandeli've had the ubuntu install for like 8 months or something21:52
Jordan_Ugmachine_24: Windows defaults to considering the hardware clock to being local time. Ubuntu (and pretty much all *NIX systems) defaults to considering the hardware clock to be UTC. So every time you boot Windows it's "fixing" the hardware clock, and setting it back 8 hours from UTC to your local time.21:52
spandeljim: yes, i would like to keep my windows install21:52
gmachine_24Jordan_U, interesting, I did not know that. Thanks.21:53
jimok. do you know what partitions your windows are on? do you want to try backing the drive up?21:53
jimI need a curses network packet monitor :) hopefully that covers at least IP, TCP and ICMP21:55
spandelI know what partition it is on, yes. I guess i could do a back up of the drive, but to what purpose?21:55
ez1d like to restore a system image to dissimilar hardware, can you advice me of a program to do so ?21:55
jimspandel, so you don't lose windows (wait, how important is the stuff in the windows partition(s)?21:56
Jordan_Ugmachine_24: You're welcome. You should either configure Windows to use UTC, or Ubuntu to use local time to prevent this from happening in the future (or 8 hours in the past :).21:56
jimare you sure -- after you got this "4 gb unused" message -- that the windows partition exists?21:57
Jordan_Uez1: Dissimilar hardware isn't generally an issue. What type of image did you create? Is the original system UEFI or BIOS? Is the new system UEFI or BIOS?21:57
jimhaving said ALL this, I'm not sure how we'd recover if any answers are no21:58
spandeljim: yes i am sure21:58
spandel:)21:58
spandeli'm using that same partition for my main storing folder, which i also mount in my ubuntu installation21:59
jimok, so now, you're looking at putting a ubuntu on the machine... for the first time? has the machine ever had a linux on it?21:59
spandeljim: do you mean me?21:59
gmachine_24Jordan_U, will do21:59
Jordan_Uspandel: So you're just surprised to find 4 GiB of unallocated space, but other than that have not noticed any problems. Correct?22:00
spandelJordan_U: correct!22:00
jimso you store things on your windows partition so you can get at it from either windows or linux?22:00
spandeljim: yes22:00
Jordan_Uspandel: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".22:00
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wilee-nileeNote ez1 is using multiple channels for the same question Jordan_U22:01
TBotNikAll, Wilee-nilee was helping me with my problem, but left the channel.  Repeating my problem Can not get movies to play on my kubuntu 12.04 LTS desktop.  Wrote this up at:  http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-linux/201626-video-player-2.html#post95181422:02
TBotNikAll, hope someone out here know how to unravel all the player/codec issues, cause never tried any AV stuff before!  Wilee-nilee had me load the restricted extras with HOWTO at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats but loading these has not changed the operation of any of my loaded players.  Still getting all the original errors!22:02
wilee-nileeJordan_U, If you could explain this to them, they seem have an issue that it is their right.22:02
spandelhttp://pastebin.com/BdFw4YE822:02
jimspandel, so I'm pretty much sitting here trying to make sure (1) that the stuff on your drive is still there and (2) trying to figure out where you are in the install... inside the installer and inside the partitioner?22:02
spandeljim: i'm not in an install at all22:03
spandeljim: i installed ubuntu in august last year22:03
TBotNikwilee-nilee: See you are back!22:03
spandeland had windows before that22:03
jimohh,22:03
spandelmaybe i should have started with a little background22:03
wilee-nileeTBotNik, My nick is irrelevant, do not just usr it like that, I gave you a restricted link and just asked a question, standard protocol.22:04
TBotNikwilee-nilee: Hey the restricted extras did not fix any of the player issues I'm having!22:04
spandeli just now noticed the unallocated space in the root partition22:04
wilee-nileeuse*22:04
spandelwhich i believe have not been there beforer22:04
spandelis that possible? that some of the space within a partition suddenly gets unallocated22:04
spandelsome of the EMPTY space i should add22:05
jimoh, unallocated space -in- the root partition? that should be ok22:05
TBotNikwilee-nilee: use*  ???22:05
jimwhen you first make a partition, it's usually empty :)22:05
jimhow big a partition did you make when you first installed ubuntu?22:05
spandelJordan_U: Did you see my link?22:05
spandeljim: 20gb22:06
jimok, so it could make sense that some of it is free22:06
Jordan_Uwilee-nilee: Meh, normally "cross-posting" the same question in multiple channels is rude, but in this case the context of asking the question in ##windows and #ubuntu means that it's a radically different question, since in one case you're asking how to handle hardware changing in Windows and in the other you're asking about hardware changing in Ubuntu. They have multiple systems their trying to migrate over, and each system ...22:06
Jordan_U... will require radically different steps/tools due to their OS.22:06
Jordan_Us/thier/they're/22:07
spandeljim: well yes, but there is a difference between unused and unallocated right?22:07
matthiaskrgris there a way to use python-software-properties in a script?22:07
matthiaskrgrit seems to require user interaction22:07
wilee-nileeJordan_U, They became belligerent with a simple explanation is all, this is a group effort, not a single persons need was my point with them.22:08
spandelgparted tells me to run "Partition --> Check" to fix it, but it is greyed out22:08
Jordan_Umatthiaskrgr: software-properties-gtk seems to have some non-interactive options (I use "-e" regularly for giving instructions in this channel).22:08
spandeli guess i have to do it from a live disk22:08
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jimthere is... and we can characterize that difference by saying "unallocated" means the space is not in any partition whereas unused space is part of a partition but hasn't been allocated to a file22:09
spandeljim: Ok, but gparted tells me different22:09
jimor vise versa... I don't actually know which is meant by which22:10
jimis gparted saying the space is not in any partition?22:10
Jordan_Uspandel: I don't see any unallocated space there. Are you sure that you're not misinterpreting free space in the filesystem as space not allocated to any partition?22:10
wilee-nileeJordan_U, It was the same question word for word as here. "ez1> Hi, id like to restore a windows image to dissimilar hardware (i.e. another platform) could you please advice me how to do so ?" However I understand what your saying22:10
spandelit tells me that (when i open info about the partition) that it has 11.96GiB used, 4.15GiB unused and 3.89GiB unallocated22:11
spandelthis is from gparted gui22:11
Jordan_U!screenshot | spandel22:11
ubottuspandel: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it.22:11
jimoh yay, my dsl isn't being flooded anymore!22:12
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polo_25hi22:12
jimhi22:13
polo_25can someone help me with my print configuration22:14
wilee-nileepolo_25, Probably, give the channel an outline of the issue.22:14
jimprobably a lot here can help... you can make it easier by saying more details about what you need, what is going on now and what you want instead22:15
ldiamondlxdm-binary is taking 100% of a core. Anyone knows why? (I've only found old bug reports for this, im on 14.04)22:16
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spandelJordan_U: http://tinypic.com/r/rk303s/822:17
spandelJordan_U: i also included output of df -h, which says that the same partition is only 16GB22:18
jimcan't zoom into the screenshot22:18
polo_25well, I need to print in raw mode in an EPSON FX2190 , trying with "lp -d EPSON_PRINTER -o raw Archivo.prt" I can print, but I don't now hos to onfigure the printer to print in raw mode automatically and print from my DOS emulated app in DOSBox MB622:18
spandeljim: You can click it?22:18
jimthat's the exact issue... when I try, it errors22:19
spandeljim: http://oi62.tinypic.com/rk303s.jpg22:19
spandeldirect link22:19
Jordan_Uspandel: Interesting, you have a partition that's larger than the filesystem it contains. Easily fixed though. Did you happen to use other partitionioning software than GParted in the past? (GParted would have automatically resized the filesystem along with the partition).22:20
shinobi_oneis this the right place to ask a question about ubuntu and nfs4?22:20
spandelJordan_U: I do? please elaborate22:21
jimshinobi_one, give it a shot... include lots of detail about what you're having trouble with22:22
shinobi_onewell i'm used to other versions of nfs, with nfs4 i just want to export /export/somedir out to a specific server, i've set it up not using a root aka /export fsid=0 line in my /etc/exports because i only want a subdir /export/somedir exported (not sure if that will work), basically the client receives no such file or directory when trying to mount22:23
Tex_Nickshinobi_one: also if you don't get an answer here you might try #ubuntu-server22:24
sementeit is only in my virtual machine or python3 binary in Ubuntu 14.04 has wrong permissions? -rwxr-x--- 2 root root /usr/bin/python3.422:24
jim"others" can't execute (or read or write) python3.422:25
sementejim why not?22:25
jimbecause the permissions for "other" are blanked out22:25
sementejim: yes, I know.. I mean, I didn't touch it.. it was like that22:26
jimweird :) could it be a strange setting for when you mounted it?22:26
sementejim: so probably it is only in my machine..22:27
sementejim: it is vagrant + virtualbox22:27
jimhow is the storage mounted?22:27
sementejim: I think it is a bug in the virtual machine image22:28
jimcan you run the installation native? (or is that inconvenient maybe because4 you have other VMs)?22:29
jimis python3.4 the only thing you've found so far that has the permission issue?22:30
spandelDoes anybody have a clue about what might be the source of my problems here? :)22:30
jimspandel, maybe since you first made that partition, you used only 4/5ths of it?22:31
jimit's working, yes?22:31
spandeljim: well, it's not NOT working. if you know what i mean22:32
spandelit's just like i think i lost 4 gb22:32
jimlet me ask... is it running now?22:32
spandelyes22:32
spandeli'm on it22:32
vilambitcan anyone get screenlets to work on 14.04? for me no screenlets get displayed at all22:32
jimso.... maybe we can assume the partition is healthy, if underweight22:32
spandelhaha22:32
spandeli suppose22:33
spandelbut i kind of need to get it back on bacon22:33
jimas Jordan_U states, that should be easy22:33
jimmmmm bacon22:33
spandeli'm sure it is easy22:33
jimbacon avocado salsa omlettttteee22:34
psusispandel, apparently the filesystem was not formatted correctly and isn't using the full size of the partition... you have to unmount it in order to check it22:34
spandelpsusi: thank you. i suspected that22:34
spandelso... live disk boot?22:34
jimyeah, something like that, where the running system and kernel is not on that disk22:35
psusispandel, or just click unmount22:35
TBotNikAll, Repeating request!! Can not get movies to play on my kubuntu 12.04 LTS desktop.  Wrote this up at: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-linux/201626-video-player-2.html#post951814  All, hope someone out here knows how to unravel all the player/codec issues, cause never tried any AV stuff before!  Wilee-nilee, from the "#ubuntu" channel had me load the restricted extras with HOWTO at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats but loading22:35
TBotNikthese has not changed the operation of any of my loaded players.  Still getting all the original errors!  Also "bprompt" from the "#kubuntu" channel suggested I do a fresh install of mplayer, ffmpeg and libavcodec so did so with cmd "apt-get -f install mplayer libxine1-ffmpeg gxine mencoder mpeg2dec vorbis-tools id3v2 mpg321 mpg123 libflac++6 ffmpeg totem-mozilla icedax tagtool easytag id3tool lame nautilus-script-audio-convert libmad0 libjpeg-progs flac22:35
TBotNikfaac faad sox ffmpeg2theora libmpeg2-4 uudeview flac libmpeg3-1 mpeg3-utils mpegdemux liba52-0.7.4-dev libquicktime2".  I had to leave libavcodec off as it kept erroring with "not found", so do not have the right repository for this or it has been version superceded!22:35
jimisn't it your / partition? that's hard to unmount :)22:35
spandelpsusi: won't work when it's the root partition, right?22:35
psusispandel, it isn't the root partition22:35
spandeljim: exactly22:35
spandelpsusi: yes it is?22:35
psusino.. it's your windows partition22:36
jimpsusi, oh? how can you tell22:36
spandelnono, thats not where my problems are22:36
psusijim, because it's ntfs ;)22:36
psusiit is according to the screen shot you posted22:36
jimahh :) good catch, ok, we've been talkin about the wrong baconstarved partition this whole time!22:36
psusioops, neverind, i"m a dingbat22:36
spandelhaha22:37
psusimy eye was drawn to the wrong part in the image22:37
spandelpsusi: that's ok ;)22:37
psusithen yea, livecd22:37
jimthe ad at the top?22:37
spandellots of things going on in that image22:37
spandelgreat22:38
psusior you can just run sudo resize2fs / from a command prompt22:38
psusierr, /dev/sda622:38
spandelwhat would that do?22:38
psusiexpand the filesystem to use the rest of the space in the partition22:39
spandelwouldn't that be risky to do while it's mounted?22:39
jimsome filesystem types can be grown while mounted22:40
psusinot really, no22:40
jim(not shrunk)22:40
psusibtrfs can shrink while mounted ;)22:40
spandeland it wouldn't do anything with all my other partitions?22:41
psusicorrect22:41
jimno, it shouldn't. one thing we know by looking at the parted display, the partition size is actually 20g, so the space is actually there for it22:42
matthiaskrgrwhy can't I install gcc 4.9 via   sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-toolchain-r/test -y ; sudo apt-get update -qq ; sudo apt-get install gcc4.9   ?22:43
wilee-nileematthiaskrgr, Is that in that ppa pointed at your release? PPA's technically are not supported here, however people do help anyway at times.22:44
matthiaskrgrits listed there https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/test   but apparently it does still not work :/22:44
wilee-nileematthiaskrgr, the update to that version should install with an update if there.22:45
jimmatthiaskrgr, it should say something about why22:45
matthiaskrgrjim: it doesn't  https://travis-ci.org/matthiaskrgr/cppcheck/jobs/2680347722:45
trismmatthiaskrgr: precise only has as high as gcc-4.8 in that ppa, look at the dropdown22:45
spandelpsusi: Heeey!! It worked!22:46
matthiaskrgroh : |22:46
spandelpsusi: thanks a lot!22:47
spandeljim: also, thanks to you :)22:47
matthiaskrgrso there is no way to get 4.9 on precise ?22:47
jimspandel, this may be hard to believe (as hard as it is to confirm), it may have been like that since august :)22:47
spandeljim: Yeah, i realize that as well... although i don't want to :)22:48
spandelwell, it works now, so yaay22:48
jimmatthiaskrgr, yes there are ways, some of that more convenient than others22:49
jimbtw that link just showed me a totally blank page22:49
spandelanyway, thanks! and goodbye22:49
matthiaskrgrjim: do you use noscript?22:49
matthiaskrgrit might need scripts22:49
jimoh, well no, I don't think so22:50
matthiaskrgrhm22:50
jimit's the textual output of an apt-get run?22:50
matthiaskrgranyway, gcc4.9 no being available in toolchain ppa for precise eplains my failing attempts22:50
matthiaskrgrjim: kind of22:50
matthiaskrgrits a travis build log of the commands performed which I thought would install gcc4.9 .. :)22:51
matthiaskrgrbut travis is on ubuntu 12.04 or so22:51
jimwell then the inconvenient choices become exposed... you -could- build the packages of it22:51
sementehey jim, probably the deploy scripts did something with the permission.. I got a fresh installation from the same image and everything is fine now. thanks!22:51
matthiaskrgrjim: I only have 50 minutes max time on that buildslave22:52
jimsemente, welcome; enjoy22:52
matthiaskrgrso if I cannot build gcc withing 50 minutes, it wont work22:52
matthiaskrgralso building gcc is total overkill22:52
jimyeah it is22:52
Phibs anyone know why when I run debmirror, it isn't picking up the installer ?22:52
jimwhat if you were to install a later (later, right?) install of ubuntu that has gcc-4.922:53
qinDoes gnome-terminal have transparent background in Unity in trusy?22:54
mexi_d3qin: Transparent background removed many releases ago.22:56
mexi_d3qin: Wait. Re-added! Yes it does.22:56
wilee-nileePhibs, this may help. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Debmirror22:57
qinmexi_d3: Now I am truly confused.22:57
mexi_d3qin: I just checked. It has it.22:57
Phibswilee-nilee: yeah followed that :(22:57
gdt1hi all. why i cant off display on my xubuntu??22:58
qinmexi_d3: Thanks, let's give Unity a chance it deserves.22:58
bonksIs the delay after entering my ssh password configurable? I'm using 14.0422:59
wilee-nileePhibs, Never messed with it but seems pretty straight forward, I would only suggest a more detailed description... IE what you set up so far and what errors you have exactly22:59
PhibsI think I got it, had to add some options @ end thanks22:59
wilee-nileePhibs, Cool, self work "is a good thing" Martha Stewart. ;)23:01
Phibshehe23:02
Phibshad to add this to the debmirror cmd in example23:02
Phibs                --di-arch amd64      \23:02
Phibs                --di-dist precise,trusty      \23:02
Phibs:)23:02
shaddowedanyone using diodon 1.1? can't get it to work23:03
wilee-nilee!details | shaddowed If you can23:03
ubottushaddowed If you can: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)23:03
gdt1can anyone help me with xubuntu, msi notebook and energy saving?23:05
ejoI just noticed this odd thing in 14.04.  Typical unity-3D session with launcher at left, nautilus, etc.  When I have 2 or more nautilus windows open, right clicking on the nautilus icon in the launcher gives access to any of the open nautilus windows.  When only ONE nautilus window is open, that option is not there and I can only reach that window, if minimized at the time, by alt-tabbing or other tricks.23:05
ejoAnyone know a fix for that?  It really should be possible to get to my current nautilus window, if single, via the launcher.23:05
psusiejo, left click on it?23:07
ejopsusi, that's what I would have expected.  But that opens a new instance instead.23:07
shaddowedejo: can't reproduce here23:07
ejoshaddowed: ok, good to know... hmm.. so left clicking for you brings up the currently open nautilus window?23:07
ejoeven if minimized or otherwise hidden?23:08
shaddowedejo: check what 'gsettings get com.canonical.Unity.Launcher favorites' gives23:09
ejo"No such schema 'com.canonical.Unity.launcher'"23:09
blueingressHi Guys23:09
ejo(tried also with all lower case, similar result)23:09
rsumiworkis there a way to run “apt-get upgrade” and forcing it never to ask about my grub partition? the reason is i’m trying to have it run during a vagrant setup23:10
wilee-nileersumiwork, What is it asking about the grub partition, which by the way is generally not needed?23:10
wilee-nileeI assume you mean boot partition here rsumiwork23:11
apb1963maddawg: I have results23:11
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blueingressHow can I monitor the status of the vpnc connnections?23:13
rsumiworkwilee-nilee: yeah grub is asking about a boot partition23:13
shaddowedejo: you have ubuntu-desktop installed or build from mini iso?23:13
shaddowedejo: you must be missing some packages, not sure which one23:13
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wilee-nileersumiwork, In what way, I have never seen this, is the partition full? Please elaborate exactly what you are seeing.23:13
rsumiworkwilee-nilee: ok one moment i’m going to re-run the bootup script23:14
wilee-nileersumiwork, You can pastebin all of that probably a good idea so the channel can see it.23:15
rsumiworkwilee-nilee: the hard part of that is that the grub ncurses window pops23:15
rsumiworkup23:15
psusirsumiwork, why don't you just answer it and install grub properly?23:16
wilee-nileersumiwork, I'm not familiar with this area, I probably should not have answered, I know grub pretty well in other contexts.23:17
rsumiworkpsusi: because that’s defeats the purpose of automating my vagrant setup23:17
psusiwhat is that purpose?23:17
rsumiworkpsusi: i just need apt-get update to update all the packages except grub because i don’t use grub23:18
psusirsumiwork, then why do you have it installed?  configure it not to install anywhere and it won't ask again23:18
cardHello guys, I have a question23:18
rsumiworkgood question. i wonder if that will fix it… apt-get uninstall grub then apt-get upgrade23:19
cardLet's say I dual booted with Ubuntu and Windows23:19
psusiit would be grub-pc, not grub23:19
cardAnd then I decided I didn't have enough partition space for Windows (for gaming), so I decided to resize the Windows partition. But, my Ubuntu partition came first on the disk, so I had to move the head of the partition.23:19
wilee-nileecard, Theoretical help not really what we do.23:19
wilee-nileeis*23:20
cardEhm, this is what happened, I just talk like that some times :P23:20
cardAnyways23:20
wilee-nileecard, Head of ubuntu?23:20
cardLike I said, I moved the Windows partition head. Of course, Windows freaked out about this, and now I need to figure out a way to fix it from Ubuntu.23:20
psusiiirc, gparted warns you and tells you what to do23:21
qincard: is situations like this you will benefit from having back up and might need to consider reinstalling as faster solution.23:21
wilee-nileecard, you can't fix that from ubuntu, probably not from windows, load the image/clone you should have.23:21
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cardPsusi, it did warn me, but I had done this with other OSes on the same disk and they didn't have a problem23:21
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cardHrm, so a restore would be the only way (I don't have a backup, I didn't have the disk space)23:22
cardIs there any way I could update it with the new start location of the partition?23:22
holsteincard: try it23:23
cardHuh?23:23
cardTry what, the restore?23:23
holsteincard: nothing about ubuntu has broken windows..23:23
psusicard, windows does this idiotic thing where it stores the offset of the partition in the partition boot sector so it needs updated after moving it... I could have sworn there was a utility to do this but can't seem to find it now23:24
holsteincard: try what you think will work.. if you want to update a new "head" or whatever you think will work..23:24
cardNo no, it's not Ubuntu, it's a user error that I made from the Ubuntu LiveCD, I just thought this would be the best place to look for help23:24
psusibooting the windows install cd and doing a repair should also fix it23:24
cardHrm23:24
cardOh thats the thing23:24
holsteinyeah, i agree with psusi .. try the restore install23:24
cardNormally I would go "oh well the partition is fine I can just load up the install media"23:24
holsteinthat always bailed me out23:25
cardBut, I'm on a Mac, and for some (well, actually probably obvious reason), Windows has absolutely terrible driver support for these things23:25
cardSo bad driver support, in fact, that it just boots. You can't use the keyboard, USB ports, or even the mouse23:25
rsumiworkhow do i find out what package is responsible for installing grub on my system?23:26
holsteincard: sure.. but either the hard drive works or not.. there should be driver support for the hard drive23:26
cardI would think that the keyboard would have some generic driver, but nope23:26
SonikkuAmericarsumiwork: Do you have UEFI?23:26
psusirsumiwork, like I said before, the package is grub-pc23:26
cardThere is no native support for the SSD, but it is easily added with an Apple provided driver23:26
rsumiworkpsusi: i looked in “dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall” and i don’t see grub-ps installed23:26
cardUnfortunately, I can't select said driver without a keyboard or a mouse23:27
SonikkuAmericapsusi: if it's UEFI, no it's not23:27
rsumiworkSonikkuAmerica: Idk. What is that?23:27
psusiSonikkuAmerica, it isn't or he wouldn't be getting the question about where to install grub to23:27
rsumiworkSonikkuAmerica: It’s a vagrant setup of 12.0423:27
SonikkuAmericarsumiwork: Does your machine have a Windows 8 logo?23:27
psusirsumiwork, -pc, not -ps23:27
OerHeks!grub23:27
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub223:27
SonikkuAmericapsusi: Not necessarily23:27
rsumiworkpsusi: it doesn’t have grub anything installed23:27
rsumiworkSonikkuAmerica: LOL no Windows 8 logo. thank god23:27
psusithen the upgrade must be installing it23:28
holsteinrsumiwork: what is a "vagrant setup of 12.04" ?23:28
holstein!grub23:28
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub223:28
holsteinyou can use the restore grub link above ^23:28
SonikkuAmericarsumiwork: Type [ sudo apt-cache policy grub-efi-amd64 ]23:29
cardSo, I don't really have a backup since I didn't have anywhere (or the money to buy somewhere) to put it23:29
cardI didn't have anything essential on Windows, just games that take forever and a half to download again23:29
cardAnd I do know how to reinstall Windows with the Apple provided drivers23:29
holsteincard: consider just reinstalling then23:29
psusiSonikkuAmerica, grub-efi does not ask where to install to: it can only be installed to one place: your efi system partition23:30
cardBut in order to do this, I'd have to do it with Apple's Boot Camp utility23:30
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cardI still have OSX (I lied, I tri-booted :p), but now that I have Ubuntu, it refuses to allow me to create another Win partition23:30
rsumiworkSonikkuAmerica: http://pastebin.com/8ESKiwia23:30
cardOr allow me to do anything to Windows23:30
SonikkuAmericarsumiwork: Then you have grub-pc23:31
rsumiworkwtf23:31
holsteincard: not sure what you mean.. grub can boot windows23:31
rsumiworkhow come i can’t sudo apt-get remove grub-pc then?23:31
cardHell, if I could get the Apple-modified install media correct, then I could just fix this. But I can't. So here's my next question; is there a way to let me "hide" a partition unless an OS manually starts asking about it?23:31
cardBah, ok look23:31
cardWindows isn't installed in GPT mode23:31
rsumiworknvm i can23:31
rsumiwork#fail23:31
holsteincard: sure.. "unless an os manually starts asking about it". you can address that with the operating systems in question23:32
cardIt's installed in MBR (with BIOS emulation as well) mode, through a hybrid MBR23:32
cardSo the Ubuntu install of GRUB in GPT mode doesn't see it23:32
cardAlso, I have rEFInd installed, I can get to booting Windows just fine23:33
cardThats not the problem at all23:33
holsteincard: ok.. because you were implying windows was broken..23:33
cardThe problem is upon booting it it goes "Windows cannot find the boot sector" or something along those lines23:33
cardUhm, Windows "breaking" is kind of a very general term :P23:34
holsteincard: i would see what reFIT or whatever you are using needs23:34
card... that is not my problem23:34
cardThe problem is NOT with the boot loader or anything of the sort23:34
cardI can BOOT INTO Windows just fine23:34
cardBut, upon doing so23:34
OerHeksstate your problem then, all in one line please.23:35
holsteincard: then, thats actually *not* "just fine".. thats the same as, cant boot...23:35
cardI'm greeted with a classic MS "can't boot" screen, stating that the start sector of the partition has been moved (or something along those lines)23:35
holsteincard: i would go to a windows support chanel with the error message23:35
cardThe error message means nothing; it's a generic one saying that Windows can't find the booting files23:35
Ben64card: you should be in ##windows for windows support23:36
cardNo holstein, that's not accurate, because you thought that I meant that, and you offered me GRUB :p23:36
cardWell uh, alright, thanks anyways23:36
cardThanks ben23:36
cardI'll check it out23:36
holsteincard: im just offering what would boot windows, since you stated windows wasnt booting23:36
card... I appreciate the help holstein23:37
apb1963card:  It's been a long, long time... but I believe win has a format /mbr command23:40
cardhrm23:40
holsteinfix mbr even23:40
apb1963or maybe that's DOS23:40
holsteinbut, that should break grub, and who knows what about reFIT or whatever that is now23:40
cardWould there be any way to execute this command without booting into actual Windows?23:40
cardNo, it won't break GRUB.23:40
cardGRUB is installed on the disk normally23:40
holsteinshould be, grub, on a normal dualboot, would see windows and boot ubuntu and windows23:41
cardIn GPT23:41
SonikkuAmericaholstein: rEFInd?23:41
holsteinbut, rEFInd^ could be quite different23:41
apb1963card: possibly...23:41
apb1963card: I'd have to google it23:41
cardHrm23:41
cardI'm willing to use ReactOS, WINE, or whatever to do it23:41
holsteincard: do do what?23:41
holsteinto do*23:42
perhapstiredWhy would ubuntu still keep whining about 407 proxy authentication on python pip installs when you've cleared the etc/apt apt.conf file out of its way, and when you're no longer on a proxy of any sort???23:42
apb1963card: fdisk /mbr ... but that's from windows23:42
holsteincard: if grub is installed, gru b is capable of booting windows and linux.. you shouldnt need wine or reactOS.. they dont have any "special sauce" for triplebooting23:42
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cardhrm23:42
cardHolstein, let me explain this23:42
cardMy problem is NOT getting to Windows23:43
cardI can get to Windows just fine23:43
holsteincard: it is if you cant get to windows23:43
holsteincard: you said, you cant23:43
cardMy problem is not with GRUB, or any of that23:43
sickgirlBashing-om: hey, I solved my issue. is noob =)23:43
cardMy problem is with Windows BOOTING, not chain-loading Windows23:43
sickgirlBashing-om: thank you23:43
Bashing-omsickgirl: Great, but you will have to remind me what we did, I have slept since then.23:47
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sickgirlBashing-om: it was something small and stupid reseting the router I had to keep the button pressed by 30 seconds but I did and kept by 1 min because I was tired and didn't want to do again... it worked in the first time..23:50
sickgirlBashing-om: so I got all the default settings, and could customize everything23:51
Bashing-omsickgirl: Well, just goes to show what a "litte" reset can do !23:52
sickgirlBashing-om:  haha it saved the night!23:52
shaddowedanyone knows how can you enable osd in mpv23:53
zactswhich channel is for the ubuntu phone?23:55
cardAha!23:55
cardGparted can apparently re-build my MBR23:55
cardapb1963, would you know if this would properly update it?23:55
apb1963card: experimentation is the key to knowledge :)  You could also take a look at this link, which sounds knowledgeable: http://robert.penz.name/221/mini-howto-restore-windows-mbrbootloader-with-linux/   if gparted says it will rebuild your MBR... it just might.  I've never done it.23:57
cardSorry, err, I read the link wrong23:58
cardGparted doesn't restore it, but a program claims to be able to do it23:58
cardHrm, your link seems useful23:58
cardThanks for the help, I'll check it out! ^.^23:58
apb1963sure thing.23:59

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