[00:00] <trism> robjloranger: do you have automatically check for updates not set to daily in software-properties-gtk ?
[00:00] <jwinterm> then I started having a problem this morning where the computer would load up, and after it showed starting windows, I would just get a black screen, so I decided to install ubuntu 14.04, and everything seemed OK
[00:00] <robjloranger> trism: i'll look. i haven't used to gui for package management in a long while though
[00:00] <jwinterm> then I installed amd catalyst so I could get rid of horrible lo-res desktop, and after install amd driver, I get a black screen after autologin
[00:01] <jwinterm> I could still get to tty2, and if I uninstalled driver then the desktop would work in lores mode, but driver from repositories or from amd site caused same black desktop issue
[00:01] <trism> robjloranger: well there is a cron job that checks for it, I don't know exactly which setting switches between daily/weekly/never off the top of my head
[00:02] <jwinterm> so I was like, "fuck it", and I reinstalled win7, and it works, but only until after I install amd catalyst drivers
[00:02] <jwinterm> then I get black screen after autologin
[00:02] <jwinterm> is that video card?
[00:02] <jwinterm> it must be, right?
[00:02] <jwinterm> gpu is damaged so it can only handle generic drivers with low resolution?
[00:03] <holstein> !nomodeset
[00:03] <owh> jwinterm: Watch your language.
[00:03] <holstein> !launguage
[00:03] <jwinterm> sorry
[00:03] <jwinterm> I was frustrated
[00:03] <robjloranger> trism: oh no i have had that turned of since i started managing packages with cli
[00:03] <owh> jwinterm: The video card may not be at fault. It could be the video cable, the monitor, any number of things. It could be your power supply.
[00:03] <holstein> jwinterm: if you have a piece of hardware that doesnt specifically state it supports linux, then, yes, its likely the support of that device that could be the issue
[00:04] <robjloranger> trism: it worked before 14 though. i just ran upgrade and it knew what was new
[00:04] <jwinterm> psu may be a possibility
[00:04] <holstein> i also agree with owh .. i would try and eliminate hardware failure
[00:04] <jwinterm> I tried it with hdmi and dvi cable, both behave the same
[00:04] <robjloranger> trism: in the gui package manager anyway
[00:04] <jwinterm> I don't think it's the tv either, it's connected to tv that seems to working ok
[00:04] <yeticry> NetworkManager is not working if /etc/default/grub have " quiet splash ..." parameters. after remove the two parameter and run sudo update-grub and reboot, the NetworkManager is working fine. that's why?
[00:04] <owh> jwinterm: Your PSU may be overloaded. Many "modern" PSU's are under size for their work load.
[00:05] <jwinterm> yea, it's a 500 W
[00:05] <owh> jwinterm: Remove all your peripherals to start with.
[00:05] <holstein> jwinterm: i say, if in windows, you are having black screens, its hardware failure
[00:05] <owh> I agree with holstein, very likely jwinterm.
[00:05] <jwinterm> yea, it's the same exact issue between windows and ubuntu, holstein
[00:05] <jwinterm> ok, thanks guys
[00:06] <yeticry> it's bug?
[00:06] <trism> robjloranger: the setting is APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists , I kind of doubt it worked with it off without it, the gui just sets the value for apt that the cron job checks
[00:06] <trism> robjloranger: apt-config dump APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Li
[00:06] <robjloranger> trism: i can tell you it worked :)
[00:06] <gassho> how do i re-enable time and date on the bar thinger
[00:06] <gassho> the menu bar
[00:07] <owh> gassho: Right click on the menu and add to panel.
[00:07] <robjloranger> trism: 0
[00:07] <robjloranger> trism: thats zero, is what it is set to
[00:08] <robjloranger> trism: i originally turned it off to stop notifications popping up
[00:09] <gassho> owh thank you, but it doesn't show an option like that ._.
[00:09] <owh> gassho: Which version of Ubuntu?
[00:09] <gassho> 14.04
[00:10] <gassho> i even went to system settings/time and date/clock; everything had been grayed out and unmanipulable ;-;
[00:12] <trism> robjloranger: the notifications come from update-notifier, you can just disable that from starting in the session, that's what I do
[00:12] <robjloranger> ooh, ok :) how do i do that?
[00:12] <robjloranger> lol
[00:12] <Hempathy> hi guys, I'm looking for help, the contents of Network Manager are blank, and when I try to add anything I receive a UID error, any ideas?
[00:12] <apb1963> Jordan_U: You stlil here?  I tried to change the partition type on my usb drive from exfat to ntfs and this is what I got: http://pastebin.com/3ij1qj6r
[00:13] <trism> robjloranger: cp /etc/xdg/autostart/update-notifier.desktop to ~/.config/autostart remove the NoDisplay=true line and then you can enable/disable it in gnome-session-properties
[00:14] <owh> gassho, it seems to be a Bug #1244285 - possible fix is to logout and log back in again. Alternate possible fix is to open the terminal and run this command: killall unity-panel-service
[00:14] <robjloranger> trism: i'm using kde. does that matter?
[00:14] <trism> robjloranger: probably not
[00:14] <trism> robjloranger: although there is a -kde variant you might need to disable instead
[00:15] <trism> robjloranger: I don't really know how to do that in kde
[00:15] <Lonnie> I'm sorry to bother you all but what would I have to do to enable webgl in firefox or chrome with an intel i5 cpu and intel hd 4000 graphics? I've installed the drivers from intel for my card and opengl games run fine from steam such as "fistful of frags" but still the browser won't enable webgl
[00:16] <owh> Lonnie: Which version of Ubuntu?
[00:16] <Lonnie> 14.04
[00:17] <owh> Lonnie: I've never done it, but my google-fu suggests that you need to install the drivers for your video card.
[00:17] <Lonnie> As I said I have already done that
[00:18] <robjloranger> trism: hmm, i'll check it out. it's strange that it worked before though. for months and months, just apt-get upgrade and it knew lol
[00:18] <apb1963> Correcting errors in the Volume Bitmap.
[00:18] <owh> Lonnie: Sorry, I missed that. What does this URL say: http://get.webgl.org/
[00:18] <apb1963> Insufficient disk space to fix volume bitmap.  CHKDSK aborted.
[00:18] <Lonnie> owh: Hmm. While your browser seems to support WebGL, it is disabled or unavailable. If possible, please ensure that you are running the latest drivers for your video card.
[00:19] <dolmio> hey all
[00:19] <dolmio> just wondering what brand tablets fully support ubuntu now?
[00:19] <trism> robjloranger: yeah I don't know, the cron job is part of apt, not update-notifier
[00:19] <owh> Lonnie: I don't know any more than that about this, having never done it.
[00:20] <owh> Lonnie: I'd be looking into driver versions and checking the level of OpenGL support on your system.
[00:20] <Lonnie> Thats fine Thank you for trying :) I couldn't solve it through my own google-fuing so thought I would ask here
[00:20] <Lonnie> OpenGL version string: 3.0 Mesa 10.1.0
[00:20] <Lonnie> thats from glxinfo
[00:20] <Hempathy> Connection add failed No session found for uid 1000 (No session found for uid 1000)
[00:20] <owh> Lonnie: This page shows what Chrome "should be" reporting: http://www.binarytides.com/enable-webgl-in-google-chrome-on-ubuntu/
[00:21] <owh> Lonnie: It also shows some commandline options to launch.
[00:21] <robjloranger> trism: well thanks for your help :) i have to test out a kernel. i'll be back
[00:21] <dolmio> does anyone know a pc tablet that fully supports Ubuntu?
[00:22] <robjloranger> dolmio: the new one from dell... it's coming soon, let me find the link
[00:22] <Lonnie> even launching with those command line options webgl is still disabled. I will try to solve it further. Thank you for your help owh
[00:22] <robjloranger> dolmio: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/06/dell-announce-new-laptops-optional-ubuntu
[00:22] <dolmio> cheers mate
[00:22] <dolmio> thanks alot
[00:25] <Gaming4JC> dolmio: system76 and ThinkPenguin also have a selection. Most of thinkpenguin's doesn't require non-free drivers which is a plus since you won't need to go find binary blobs :)
[00:25] <Gaming4JC> dolmio: also this site may be of help to you - http://h-node.org/hardware/catalogue/en
[00:26] <Gaming4JC> list of all known-working devices
[00:26] <dolmio> thanks for all your help
[00:29] <Hempathy> hi guys, I'm looking for help, the contents of Network Manager are blank
[00:29] <haffaf> hi, have sound without bass, very bad quality . I'm using trusty tahr
[00:29] <haffaf> with delll optiplex 390
[00:30] <Hempathy> Hi Haffaf, did it work prior?
[00:31] <haffaf> Hempathy: yeah it works but not with a good quality
[00:33] <haffaf> Hempathy: the sound work perfectly i put the jack in the front of my pc not behind.
[00:34] <savid> Jordan_U: so, it appears the DVD method isn't working either. When it started up, before the grub menu, it flashed "Could not open \EFT\Boot\fallback.efi": 14
[00:38] <savid> Jordan_U: there are other articles that say if I'm running in "legacy mode" then I have to install ubuntu in legacy mode (ie I can't install in UEFI mode). Is that true?
[00:40] <haffaf> anybody outhere ?
[00:40] <haffaf> really need to fix the sound problem
[00:45] <dockit> okey ~# chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf
[00:45] <dockit> chattr: Operation not supported while reading flags on /etc/resolv.conf
[00:49] <AGGGGGGGGGGGGGG> chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf
[00:49] <AGGGGGGGGGGGGGG> chattr: Operation not supported while reading flags on /etc/resolv.conf
[00:49] <AGGGGGGGGGGGGGG> what the fuck
[00:49] <AGGGGGGGGGGGGGG> xattr is standard no ?
[00:49] <AGGGGGGGGGGGGGG> did i miss something
[00:49] <IdleOne> AGGGGGGGGGGGGGG: please keep the language clean
[00:49] <Mothran> why the language?
[00:49] <AGGGGGGGGGGGGGG> Mothran: having one of those days
[00:50] <rww> AGGGGGGGGGGGGGG: ls -l /etc/resolv.conf, paste output here
[00:50] <AGGGGGGGGGGGGGG> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 May 22 09:37 /etc/resolv.conf -> ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf
[00:50] <AGGGGGGGGGGGGGG> ahhh lemme guess
[00:50] <AGGGGGGGGGGGGGG> the /run is some BS ramdisk
[00:51] <rww> can't chattr +i symlinks
[00:52] <AGGGGGGGGGGGGGG> rww: yea,, nwm i fixed it
[00:52] <AGGGGGGGGGGGGGG> whats the idea about symlinking it
[00:53] <rww> AGGGGGGGGGGGGGG: it's dynamically generated, and putting it in /run means it gets cleared out on reboot
[00:53] <AGGGGGGGGGGGGGG> rww: well it was
[00:53] <AGGGGGGGGGGGGGG> rww: then i fixed it
[00:54] <AGGGGGGGGGGGGGG> rww: then i just have my 70% package loss to fix
[00:54] <rww> could have just uninstalled resolvconf, I expect. but sure
[00:54] <AGGGGGGGGGGGGGG> rww: resolvconf is one of those new fancy daemons ?
[00:56] <rww> AGGGGGGGGGGGGGG: it's been around for a pretty long while
[00:56] <rww> not sure when Ubuntu started using it, I stick to Debian usually
[00:56] <AGGGGGGGGGGGGGG> rww: well i remeber a time where resolv.conf was a file
[00:57] <AGGGGGGGGGGGGGG> and dhclient raped it,, but you could tell it not to
[00:57] <rww> Still is, on my system that doesn't have resolvconf installed
[00:58] <AGGGGGGGGGGGGGG> rww: ok i threw it out
[00:58] <AGGGGGGGGGGGGGG> that probably broke the whole cardstack
[00:59] <AGGGGGGGGGGGGGG> rww: can having a few brigdes mess up my netstack completely
[01:00] <AGGGGGGGGGGGGGG> im seeing extremely wierd behaviour on one of my boxes
[01:00] <AGGGGGGGGGGGGGG> but not the other
[01:00] <Fritzendugan> can I completely disable/remove pulseaudio and just use alsa in Ubuntu Trusty? If so, can someone link me a good resource on how to do so?
[01:02] <Jordan_U> savid: Did you try the normal Ubuntu image (no GNOME or other special image)?
[01:04] <Fritzendugan> I found some forum posts, I'm just gonna try it and see what happens hopefully nothing breaks
[01:06] <Vivekananda> hey everyone had someone help me setting up thinkfan from here :  http://mininglines.wordpress.com/2012/06/04/thinkpad-fan-control-in-ubuntu-12-04-25-2/      on my lenovo T61  . some results are here  : http://pastie.org/9255996   . I am just trying to figure out what settings to include in the  /etc/thinkpad.conf   ( not the /etc/modprobe.d/thinkpad.conf)  so the fan rotates faster at lower temps and not very high
[01:08] <home> Hi guys
[01:08] <home> I need help trying to get my Wii U Pro Controller working with Ubuntu
[01:08] <home> can someone help me get it working?
[01:08] <home> I need a newer version of bluez*
[01:09] <jake_> what seemas
[01:10] <jake_> what seems to be the problem
[01:10] <AldeBaran> hi all
[01:10] <jake_> hi
[01:11] <AldeBaran> I have a question that is a bit embarassing..I*should* know this
[01:11] <jake_> what seems to be the problem
[01:11] <DreamsofTragedy> that ok i say that to my wife all the time
[01:11] <AldeBaran> I have samba installed on my box and everytime I kill it (-9 -15 killal etc) it restarts
[01:11] <jake_> :|
[01:11] <AldeBaran> something else must be starting it
[01:12] <jake_> hmm
[01:12] <AldeBaran> how can I find out what that is
[01:12] <AldeBaran> I am certainly killing the process because I can see the restart in the logs
[01:12] <odsent> http://i.imgur.com/nEnJqBM.png
[01:13] <jake_> have you tried restarting the system itself?
[01:14] <AldeBaran> jake: not yet...I am oldskool linux geek so that is against my nature but more importantly, I really want to know what is starting the process
[01:15] <Vivekananda> is 50 degrees good temp to have fans start or should I put it lower ?
[01:15] <jake_> hmm... did the logs say anything more about it?
[01:15] <odsent> click here for a free iphone http://i.imgur.com/nEnJqBM.png
[01:16] <AldeBaran> jake: no
[01:16] <hast-thou> so 12.04 is latest ubuntu server? or 14?
[01:16] <rww> hast-thou: 14.04
[01:16] <rww> AldeBaran: sudo service samba stop
[01:17] <holstein> hast-thou: theres a version of server for all releases
[01:17] <DreamsofTragedy> so they updated the server version?
[01:17] <holstein> !server
[01:17] <rww> DreamsofTragedy: all Ubuntu versions are on the same release cycle
[01:17] <rww> AldeBaran: (upstart is Ubuntu's init system. see http://upstart.ubuntu.com/ for details and documentation)
[01:20] <AldeBaran> rww: thanks, that may be it
[01:21] <AldeBaran> yep...that worked
[01:21] <keychainred> trying to use ubuntu and itsays i need to windows update
[01:22] <holstein> keychainred: it?
[01:22] <Fritzendugan> ok, I removed pulseaudio, but now I can't get my sound to come out of my hdmi (using an nvidia card). It only comes out through my headset. How do I change it?
[01:22] <keychainred> i just double checked and im actually using windows, disregard
[01:22] <Jordan_U> savid: The GNOME image was missing other important files, like the entirety of /boot/grub/, so I'm not surprised that it didn't boot correctly.
[01:22] <holstein> Fritzendugan: utilizing pulse would likely be the easiest, and maybe the only way
[01:23] <lili> I installed gradle with apt-get but I don't know where the installation directory is, anybody can help me with this?
[01:23] <Fritzendugan> holstein, I'm not worried about easiest. "maybe the only way" isn't very helpful, no offense :P either it's possible or it's not
[01:24] <AldeBaran> rww: lazy question.. how do I stop a deamon from starting? samba in this case
[01:24] <holstein> Fritzendugan: everything is technically possible. but, you are using code that you dont have control over, and leaving the defaults of the system
[01:24] <holstein> Fritzendugan: i you want to use alsa only, you should konw how to configure.. otherwise, just use pulse.. it should work out of the box, and there should be no ill effects
[01:25] <Vivekananda> hey everyone. is it normal for the ac adapter for thinkpad t61 to heat much ? I did not check this before but still I thought it did not heat that much
[01:26] <Fritzendugan> holstein, obviously I don't know how to use alsa only, but I want to learn. Therefore I'm trying to learn. Telling me that since I don't know how means I shouldn't isn't very helpful. Pulse was giving me issues with skype and it just seems like an unnecessary layer of abstraction. I'm trying to figure out how to configure alsa.
[01:27] <holstein> Fritzendugan: thats likely more of an issue with skype.. not sure if you will get around it in the long run. that code is not open to us either
[01:27] <Fritzendugan> Fritzendugan, either you know how and you're willing to help me, or you don't, or it's not possible, but please stop wasting my time by telling me I'm doing something the wrong way ;)
[01:27] <holstein> Fritzendugan: were you directing that to me?
[01:27] <Fritzendugan> holstein, skype works exactly how I want it to now that I disabled pulse, so no, skype isn't the issue
[01:27] <Fritzendugan> holstein, yeah I was
[01:28] <holstein> Fritzendugan: its likely not pulse thats the issue, but maybe the sytem resource overhead
[01:28] <hast-thou> will 12.04 now update to 14.04 automaticatiion with apt-get upgrade -y??
[01:28] <holstein> Fritzendugan: you might try lubuntu team. they dont ship pulse.. or some other team that doesnt use pulse
[01:28] <holstein> Fritzendugan: i assure you, im not interested in wasting time, or upsetting you..
[01:28] <Fritzendugan> holstein, maybe skype doesn't like pulse, that's irrelevant. I don't need pulse, I know it's possible to use only alsa, as I see some dated forum posts about it, but their solutions don't seem to be working right now
[01:29] <willwh> pulse is awesome
[01:29] <Fritzendugan> holstein, I understand, I'm not trying to be snippy. But I don't want to use pulse, sorry
[01:29] <holstein> Fritzendugan: sure.. but, you are using code that expects pulse, and is made for supporting ubuntu
[01:29] <keychain> rate my build http://pcpartpicker.com/p/WnfKcf
[01:29] <willwh> and skype has no problem with pulse and vice versa
[01:29] <willwh> I run 14.04 on 3 x laptops and a desktop (work, home, work, work) haha
[01:29] <willwh> and I use skype 60% of my day, in calls
[01:29] <holstein> Fritzendugan: you dont have to use *anything*.. but the device may not be able to work without pulse
[01:30] <Fritzendugan> holstein, hmmmmm I thought pulse was basically just an abstraction on top of alsa?
[01:30] <keychain> http://pcpartpicker.com/p/WnfKcf Fritzendugan
[01:30] <holstein> Fritzendugan: there *are* devices that just dont work without pulse.. not many, but there are
[01:31] <Fritzendugan> keychain, did you mean to send this to someone else?
[01:31] <keychain> no check my build pls Fritzendugan
[01:31] <Fritzendugan> keychain, uhhhhh I'm good thanks
[01:31] <hast-thou> skype on ubunutu kicked my butt
[01:31] <willwh> Fritzendugan:
[01:31] <willwh> wuppppppps
[01:31] <ianorlin> mexi_d3: I found out from that you can use keychain ##hardwore is the place for this I think
[01:31] <hast-thou> so apt-get upgrade -y on 12 will goto 14?
[01:32] <ianorlin> grr forget the first part
[01:32] <willwh> hast-thou: apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:32] <willwh> ?
[01:32] <keychain> hardwore?
[01:32] <willwh> keychain: that is an old i7
[01:32] <ianorlin> hardware
[01:32] <AldeBaran> does anyone know how to scroll up in tinyirc?
[01:32] <willwh> aren't the 2.x series 2nd gen?
[01:32] <hast-thou> ahhh
[01:32] <keychain> i meant to post this to another channel
[01:32] <hast-thou> how long has 14 been out?
[01:32] <hast-thou> damnit jim
[01:32] <hast-thou> Im on old stuff
[01:32] <willwh> hast-thou: it' current stable
[01:32] <willwh> about, err, 2 months?
[01:32] <willwh> I don't pay too much attention :p
[01:33] <hast-thou> oh then not so bad
[01:33] <psusi> does anyone know how to set up mediatomb or another dlna server to serve up videos to a roku or smart tv?
[01:33] <hast-thou> left last gig 2 months gone
[01:33] <Fritzendugan> holstein, it looks like alsa recognizes the hdmi device, no? http://pastebin.com/JBJvfyNN
[01:33] <hast-thou> probly came out bit after
[01:33] <willwh> psusi: highly recommend XBMC
[01:33] <psusi> willwh, that isn't a dlna server
[01:33] <willwh> oh
[01:33] <willwh> dlna?
[01:34] <psusi> it's apparently this plug and play network media standard that the roku and smart tvs support for streaming videos
[01:34] <willwh> oh
[01:34] <willwh> I work in the streaming industry and I don't know about it :E
[01:34] <AldeBaran> thank you gents for your help
[01:34] <psusi> so far the two servers I have found that implement it are plex, which my cousin uses on windows.. but it's proprietary and you have to pay for it.. and mediatomb, but I can't figure out how to get it to transcode on the fly to an audio format the roku supports
[01:34] <hast-thou> jobs on dice for that
[01:35] <hast-thou> roku thingy
[01:35] <hast-thou> sounds liek hellish custom cloud
[01:35] <hast-thou> by some what pythoin types?
[01:35] <willwh> psusi: well, the rokus basically support HLS
[01:35] <psusi> hls?
[01:35] <willwh> i.e. apple's http live stream protocol (m3u8)
[01:35] <willwh> If you're dealing with OD content, you really just need to create m3u8 + chunklists
[01:35] <psusi> hrm.. not heard of it.. is there a free linux server for it?
[01:36] <willwh> and you can serve it off a standard web server
[01:36] <willwh> psusi: nginx has an RTMP plugin that supports live-HLS
[01:36] <willwh> but their OD content plugin for on the fly creation is licensed
[01:36] <willwh> I'm not really aware of one that does m3u8 generation for OD content on the fly
[01:37] <psusi> interesting... I thought you had to use dlna to do this... I have it working fine with mediatomb, but the roku doesn't seem to like ac-3 audio... so need to transcode
[01:37] <psusi> and I'd rather do that on the fly than transocde my library
[01:37] <willwh> well, AAC is pretty much the defacto
[01:37] <willwh> if you're trying to deliver to anything, usually, AAC is your best option
[01:37] <willwh> mobile devices support it, most browsers natively decode it, ETC
[01:37] <willwh> same with h264 ;]
[01:38] <psusi> well, the roku forums say it does support aac, and since that seemed to save a lot of disk space, I started transcoding my library, but the stupid roku still plays no sound...
[01:38] <willwh> although I don't think firefox has native h264 decodes yet
[01:38] <willwh> they rely on something else
[01:38] <psusi> and my samsung smart tv plays everything fine, but disconnects after 2-10 minutes
[01:38] <willwh> that seems very strange
[01:39] <psusi> if I manually transcode the audio to mp3 though, the roku plays it just fine, but that gives up the surround sound so I'd rather not do that permanantely to my library
[01:39] <willwh> indeed
[01:39] <willwh> I'm surprised the roku doesn't play your AAC
[01:39] <psusi> me too
[01:39] <willwh> that is probably encoding config more than anything
[01:39] <willwh> they do definitely support that codec
[01:39] <willwh> argh, time to put kidlets to bed
[01:39] <willwh> bbl o/
[01:39] <psusi> just put mine to bed ;)
[01:39] <willwh> feel free to pm me if you want to continue the discussion :)
[01:40] <willwh> I don't think we need to continue it in here, it's hardly on topic ;)
[01:40] <psusi> ok
[01:41] <Fritzendugan> btw saw somebody talking about plex, you don't pay for the plex server
[01:41] <Fritzendugan> you can buy a subscription for some additional features, but I'm using the free version and it does all of the streaming and library management stuff, it's pretty nice
[01:42] <gtan> Hi! I am having a tough time trying to enable oracle java for chromium browser on ubuntu 14.04 .. is this the right forum for it
[01:43] <xangua> gtan: is this chromium 35¿
[01:44] <gtan> xangua: Chromium, chrome and firefox - all of them
[01:45] <gtan> xangua: Chromium 34.0.1847.116
[01:47] <gtan> anyone else - any idea on it?
[01:50] <willwh> nope
[01:52] <trism> gtan: you can't use java with chromium/chrome anymore, npapi plugins are disabled
[02:11] <gr33n7007h> 'F0:1C:13:E4:7F:96'.split(/:/).reverse.map { |b| b.to_i(16) } What would be the equivilent using unpack/pack ?
[02:11] <gr33n7007h> oops wrong chan
[02:16] <noro> join #test
[02:21] <zaxius> compiz question: i have desktop cube and rotate cube enabled, but they're not working. do i have to enable multiple desktops or something?
[02:21] <momomomomo> I'm wondering how to set up my server to resolv DNS without the use of bind9/resolvconf ; anyone have an idea?
[02:23] <ardan_> I have no idea what anyone here is talking about.
[02:23] <xangua> zaxius: 4 horizontal desktops I believe
[02:24] <zaxius> xangua: do you know which setting that is?
[02:25] <swagerino> anyone using xchat? I have no idea how to use irc, and I need to get to irc.freenode.com then the channel #archlinux. I have no idea how to change nickname aswell and / msg nickserve register does nothing
[02:26] <xangua> swagerino: you are on freenode
[02:26] <xangua> zaxius: you can use compiz settings manager, I don't remember right now just use te default setup
[02:27] <swagerino> when I use /join #archlinux, it says: " #archlinux :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services" how can I fix this?
[02:27] <gtan> trism: thanks, if I may ask, what about firefox?
[02:28] <somsip> !register | swagerino
[02:28] <gr33n7007h> swagerino, you need to register with freenode /j #freenode
[02:30] <momomomomo> No takers on my resolvconf uninstall question? :/
[02:30] <armenb> is there a way to get more verbosity out of dpkg-reconfigure
[02:30] <armenb> like I have no idea WTF it is doing.
[02:30] <armenb> momomomomo: why are you trying to uninstall it?
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> armenb, swearing and acronyms of are not allowed here.
[02:30] <armenb> wilee-nilee: sorry :-)
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> no biggie. ;)
[02:31] <momomomomo> armenb: issues with OVH and docker
[02:31] <armenb> what kind of issues
[02:32] <momomomomo> well, https://github.com/dotcloud/docker/issues/1470
[02:32] <momomomomo> I've resorted to using public DNS for now as a stop-gap fix
[02:33] <momomomomo> but that's so wack i can't even http://www.quickmeme.com/img/7a/7acad4fff3eb46a689e84851cdd001bdd2aab0b8e11dd39b32a8eab12ca86ffd.jpg
[02:34] <armenb> momomomomo: try adding "nameserver 8.8.8.8" to the end of /etc/resolvconf/resolvconf.d/head and then running "resolvconf -u"
[02:34] <armenb> awesome quickmeme btw. im taking that
[02:37] <momomomomo> armenb: ha, it's an oldie but goodie ; that's google public dns, eh?
[02:37] <armenb> yes
[02:38] <momomomomo> aye, I've got those going now, but I was hoping not to rely on them
[02:38] <momomomomo> other ideas armenb ?
[02:38] <armenb> so what is the issue...
[02:39] <momomomomo> that issue I pasted above; docker containers cannot resolve DNS if loopback is in /etc/resolv.conf
[02:39] <armenb> can you dig +short index.docker.io
[02:39] <momomomomo> so there's a few workarounds
[02:39] <momomomomo> armenb: all is well on my metal box
[02:39] <momomomomo> it's in the LXC where it fails
[02:39] <armenb> if loopback is in /etc/resolv.conf, you need to have a resolver listening on udp port 53
[02:40] <savid> Jordan_U: If I were to be able to boot with the official ISO, would I be able to load the installer for ubuntu gnome? I'd like to get as clean a gnome installation as possible.
[02:40] <holstein> openDNS is a nice option
[02:40] <momomomomo> armenb: ideas to a guide?
[02:40] <armenb> you can install dnsmasq for that, for example
[02:40] <armenb> do you need to be running your own DNS?
[02:41] <armenb> if you don't, just use google's
[02:42] <momomomomo> hm fair enough
[02:42] <savid> Jordan_U: if I were to get the official ISO to boot, would I be able to install the ubuntu-gnome flavor?
[02:43] <holstein> !info ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[02:43] <nicomachus> hi
[02:44] <nicomachus> anyone here can help installing steam?
[02:44] <holstein> !steam
[02:44] <holstein> nicomachus: they have a .deb AFAIK
[02:46] <nicomachus> it's in the software center now, but whenever I click the install button it prompts a window to accept or decline something, but it won't load whatever has to be accepted.
[02:46] <nicomachus> screenshot in a sec
[02:46] <holstein> nicomachus: sure.. dont use the software centerll get the .deb from the site, and try
[02:46] <kingbeowolf> can the r9 295x2 run 3 monitors in ubuntu?
[02:47] <holstein> nicomachus: should see the linux link here.. http://store.steampowered.com/about/
[02:47] <nicomachus> http://imgur.com/a/gyLil
[02:47] <holstein> nicomachus: http://media.steampowered.com/client/installer/steam.deb specifically
[02:47] <nicomachus> thanks holstein. used the steam store link.
[02:52] <en1gma> whats a good vcard and cpu app similar to 3dmark stuff? i have phronix and to do any of the 3d stuff i need to have the games all installed first it looks like which i do not have. is there an opton in that app to do 3d stuff that it can auto download?
[02:53] <mexi_d3> en1gma, Uniengine?
[02:53] <en1gma> i did do that one the other day and it ran so bad i got 0 frps on an amd hd 5450
[02:54] <en1gma> it didnt give me any results
[02:54] <en1gma> i just installed a 9600gt...maybe i should run it again
[02:55] <en1gma> just tried and it said the test did not produce a result
[02:56] <mexi_d3> en1gma, The words you need for search engine are  'gpu benchmark'
[02:56] <mexi_d3> +linux
[02:56] <en1gma> k let me try
[02:56] <en1gma> well ubuntu has this stuff dont it?
[02:57] <en1gma> in the repo?...ahhh ill check there
[02:57] <punto> what's a good markdown viewer?
[03:00] <kingbeowolf> can the r9 295x2 run 3 monitors in ubuntu?
[03:00] <en1gma> gpu benchmark dont show anything in the repo
[03:01] <en1gma> 1 item
[03:02] <en1gma> i have 173.14 driver installed. is that the correct driver for the 9600 gt and ubuntu 14.04 amd x64
[03:10] <zaxius> xangua: found it, thanks
[03:10] <jango42> trying to install tor but cant seem to open the ,tar.xz files ?
[03:11] <holstein> !tor | jango42
[03:12] <jango42> thank you holstein
[03:13] <jango42> ubottu
[03:14] <Jordan_U> savid: If you can get the normal Ubuntu iso to boot then you can probably get the GNOME or minimal iso to boot, but start with the standard iso. If it boots properly we'll move on from there.
[03:22] <zaxius> i'm dual-booting windows and i want to make windows the default OS to boot, but i can't find /boot/grub/menu.lst. is that setting somewhere else now?
[03:23] <Ben64> zaxius: it's /boot/grub/grub.cfg now, but you shouldn't edit that file directly
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> zaxius, menu.list is grub legacy
[03:23] <zaxius> Ben64: what's the preferred method of changing the default OS to boot?
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> lst*
[03:25] <zaxius> ah i think i found it
[03:25] <Ben64> zaxius: /etc/default/grub
[03:25] <Ben64> then you have to "sudo update-grub" after you edit
[03:25] <zaxius> Ben64: yep just found it on the wiki, lol. thanks
[03:25] <zaxius> but, how can i see which number windows is without rebooting to the grub screen?
[03:26] <Ben64> yeah i'm not sure about that... on my laptop though, i have it set up to boot the last booted option
[03:26] <wilee-nilee> zaxius, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Setup#A.2BAC8-etc.2BAC8-default.2BAC8-grub
[03:27] <Ben64> zaxius: check out the one with the checkmark if you wanted that sort of set up ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/148662/how-to-get-grub2-to-remember-last-choice
[03:27] <zaxius>     grep menuentry /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[03:27] <zaxius> thanks guys
[03:28] <ezeql> i feel display performance somwhat slow, ati 5770, and using prop drivers on 14.04
[03:31] <somsip> !info php5-memcached
[03:32] <savid> Jordan_U: Looks like I get the same problem with the official install as well. I think my problem may have something to do with the way I originally installed linux on my macbook.
[03:35] <lepine> Does anyone use the Ubuntu AWS AMIs with user-data scripts? I can't seem to get a script running on first-boot
[03:35] <lepine> I'm running the AMI's directly, not a derived AMI.
[03:35] <lepine> My scripts do start with #!
[03:36] <lepine> I see the user-data script in /var/lib/cloud/instances/iXYZ/user-data.txt*
[03:37] <lepine> I can't see any of the scripts effects. /var/log/cloud-init.log and /var/log/cloud-init-output.log make no mention of my user-data scripts runnin (cloud-init.log does mention copying them from the instance meta data)
[03:37] <lepine> cloud-init.log makes no mention of any obvious errors
[03:37] <lepine> What could I be missing here?
[03:41] <willwh> #! what
[03:41] <willwh> and does it exist?
[03:41] <willwh> like what are you running? bash script?
[03:42] <Guest23469> Hi
[03:42] <maximus2> hi there!!!!
[03:42] <Guest23469> anyone can help me with an issue in my ubuntu 14.04 ???  my synaptic consume 100% CPU usage
[03:43] <wilee-nilee> Guest23469, Even when closed?
[03:43] <Guest23469> not ..... when it started or it find something
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> Guest23469, How have you confirmed this, preface the person you address using their nick, and use understandable sentences please
[03:45] <Guest23469> my synaptic was normal until now .....
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> Guest23469, How have you confirmed synaptic is using 100% of the cpu?
[03:46] <Guest23469> with top command
[03:46] <Guest23469> order by %CPU
[03:48] <wilee-nilee> Guest23469, I'm noticing here that when opened for about 5 seconds it does draw a lot but settles down. Is your issue constant?
[03:48] <ihitdisplay> I can't resize my extended partition, what's happening?
[03:48] <Guest23469> before i add a external repository .... for to test an tumblr desktop client
[03:49] <wilee-nilee> Guest23469, Turn that repo off in the software sources and try opening it again.
[03:50] <Guest23469> after i remove this program and  remove thi deb entry in my source list
[03:50] <Guest23469> and reload with apt-get update
[03:50] <wilee-nilee> ihitdisplay, Are you using any partition inside the extended during this?
[03:51] <wilee-nilee> Guest23469, I'm not able to understand you enough to help, so others might.
[03:51] <Guest23469> the apt-get is totally normal and fast to remove, update and install
[03:51] <ihitdisplay> my extended partition is /dev/sda2 inside which there's /dev/sda5
[03:52] <wilee-nilee> ihitdisplay, Can you take a screen shot of gparted showing the HD, and put it on an image site?
[03:52] <ihitdisplay> wilee-nilee, ok
[03:52] <axisys> what's equivalent to this command to check only the installed pkgs
[03:52] <axisys> apt-cache rdepends libgnutls26 | grep -v lib
[03:53] <ihitdisplay> wilee-nilee, http://imgur.com/8mhDQ1j
[03:54] <maek> Im using upstart to run a "start.sh" script but im having a really hard time getting an env var passed into the script. Ive tried using the env FOO=bar and su -c "FOO=bar start.sh" but none of it is working. anyone have any ideas?
[03:56] <Aysenhorn> Hi 2 all
[03:56] <wilee-nilee> ihitdisplay, THe extended has no where to go, sda5 fills it and sda1 is up against it. I can't say what is best in resizing a luks though, be sure you know what your doing, and you have to be using a live cd and all partitions unmounted.
[04:01] <ihitdisplay> wilee-nilee, it's saying there's no support for luks
[04:01] <ihitdisplay> wilee-nilee, does that mean sda5 is not rightly cryptographed?
[04:02] <wilee-nilee> ihitdisplay, I know nothing about luks, or why people even bother to be honest. In have answered you why the extended is not movable at this time, my work is done. ;)
[04:03] <wilee-nilee> ihitdisplay, Had you mentioned luks, we would have never had a conversation.
[04:06] <ihitdisplay> wilee-nilee, ok thank you
[04:11] <BinaryMcAwesome> Downloaded the 14.04 LTS. Excited to test it on a VM!
[04:11] <cyford>   is there a reason i can not install netfix-desktop anymore ?
[04:13] <wilee-nilee> cyford, Technically not supported here as a ppa is used, however if you can detail the issue you may get help.
[04:14] <pwd1234> Hi, I am facing a problem where my wireless suddenly stopped working.
[04:15] <creyc> what is the name of the gui installer that pops up after running the ubuntu alt/minimal installer?
[04:15] <creyc> 'select' something?
[04:16] <pwd1234> I have a dual boot laptop, so when I checked the Windows OS, the WiFi worked fine.  Any idea why it's suddenly stopped working?
[04:16] <pwd1234> lshw -C network doesn't give any result
[04:16] <pwd1234> Neither does lsmod, etc.
[04:17] <Ranieri_> Hey guys
[04:17] <pwd1234> ?
[04:20] <cyford> i get However the following packages replace it:
[04:20] <cyford>   wine-browser-installer
[04:21] <cyford> When i install this  nothing happens  still no netflix
[04:22] <pwd1234> Any idea why WiFi isn't working suddenly?
[04:26] <cyford> pwd1234,   do you have dns manually configuired  or set to auto dhcp?
[04:26] <pwd1234> cyford, it's auto dhcp
[04:27] <cyford> are you able to ping the gateway? pwd1234
[04:29] <pwd1234> There is no network itself present
[04:29] <creyc> found it: it's tasksel
[04:29] <pwd1234> cyford, it says No network devices available
[04:30] <gr33n7007h> pwd1234, check "rfkill list" in terminal is any device blocked
[04:30] <pwd1234> "rfkill list" returns nothing, so obviously nothing has been blocked, right?
[04:31] <gr33n7007h> pwd1234, it should return devices blocked or not try with sudo
[04:32] <pwd1234> Even with sudo, nothing
[04:32] <pwd1234> I am using Ubuntu 14.04
[04:33] <gr33n7007h> pwd1234, is your wireless card up?
[04:33] <triplc> hi all
[04:33] <pwd1234> The wireless card is up, because if I boot in Windows right now, the WiFi works fine
[04:34] <pwd1234> There is no external switch present in my laptop (Lenovo Yoga 13)
[04:34] <triplc> how to disable CoW (copy on write) for a file/directory on a btrfs filesystem? i am using 12.04
[04:34] <cyford> go to system settings network an make sure its turned on
[04:34] <gr33n7007h> pwd1234, what devices are there when you issue "ifconfig -a" in terminal
[04:34] <triplc> how to disable CoW (copy on write) for a file/directory on a btrfs filesystem? i am using 12.04. i googled and tried 'chattr +C ...' but it does not work
[04:35] <minam> how are you?
[04:35] <pwd1234> gr33n7007h, "ifconfig -a" gives only: lo Link encap:Local Loopback
[04:35] <pwd1234> No eth0, etc.
[04:35] <wilee-nilee> !ot | minam
[04:36] <wilee-nilee> minam, Soory I read that as how old are you my apology. ;)
[04:36] <gr33n7007h> pwd1234, So it's not detecting your wireless card
[04:36] <minam> 39  age..^^
[04:36] <pwd1234> cyford, only Enable Networking is present and that is checked, no Enable Wireless at all
[04:36] <pwd1234> Yes gr33n7007h
[04:37] <gr33n7007h> pwd1234, lspci | grep Wireless
[04:37] <pwd1234> Nothing for the lspci command also
[04:37] <gr33n7007h> pwd1234, what?
[04:38] <gr33n7007h> pwd1234, Is internal wireless
[04:38] <pwd1234> lspci  | grep Wireless returns no result
[04:39] <gr33n7007h> pwd1234, Is it internal wireless card?
[04:39] <gr33n7007h> or usb
[04:40] <pwd1234> It's internal
[04:41] <pwd1234> gr33n7007h, it's an internal wireless card
[04:43] <cyford> what laptop you have pwd1234
[04:43] <pwd1234> cyford, it's a Lenovo Yoga 13
[04:45] <cyford> pwd1234, https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/4/1/280
[04:45] <cyford> https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/Yoga-13-What-to-do-when-you-install-UBUNTU/td-p/1246211
[04:46] <pwd1234> cyford, you think the Realtek driver was deleted/purged from my system for some reason?
[04:46] <gr33n7007h> was just to about to post the former link
[04:48] <cyford> i dont think this driver is included in the linux by defualt pwd1234
[04:48] <pwd1234> cyford, the WiFi was working fine in Ubuntu till last evening, a few hours after I got home it stopped working
[04:49] <pwd1234> But I'll try installing this driver and get back to you in 5 minutes
[04:51] <raju2925> hey, anybody knows about where can i download ubuntu mobile for  my xperia neo v
[04:53] <raju2925> guys ??
[04:56] <pwd1234> Wow!  It worked now!
[04:56] <somsip> !touch | raju2925
[04:56] <pwd1234> Thanks cyford, gr33n7007h!
[04:56] <pwd1234> Any idea why the driver could have stopped working suddenly?
[04:57] <gr33n7007h> pwd1234, how you fix it?
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[04:57] <pwd1234> I downloaded the realtek driver and compiled and installed it in my laptop
[04:57] <pwd1234> I did a reboot and the WiFi was working again
[04:57] <raju2925> ubottu:thanks,
[04:58] <gr33n7007h> pwd1234, cool, hope it stays working now :)
[04:58] <pwd1234> Ya, hopefully
[04:58] <pwd1234> But I am curious why it stopped working in the first place though.  I know I didn't uninstall this driver on my own, for sure
[05:01] <pwd1234> Anyway, thanks people
[05:02] <cyford> :)  no problem ,  think i fixed my issue too :)  Netflix Time
[05:03] <brad> hello
[05:03] <brad> what's the "official" way to change hostname?
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> !hostname | brad
[05:04] <brad> I've tried everything I can think of, but it changes back after reboot
[05:05] <cyford> add it to the host file
[05:06] <brad> I put "127.0.0.1 localhost newhostnametest" in /etc/hosts but it still isn't persistent
[05:06] <blaz0r_> brad: cat /etc/hostname - whats the output?
[05:07] <Ben64> brad: thats not the right way to have /etc/hosts
[05:07] <brad> output is currently the old hostname, as I rebooted again to check
[05:09] <brad> eep, think I found the issue. typo in a script. I will fix the hosts file too. thank you all.
[05:14] <Nimicitorul> just installed ubuntu, have no sound.
[05:15] <jotaxpe> Tengo un problema, no se como mi icono de la carpeta "Escrtorio" se agrandó, resulta que cambie los iconos manualmente, ya que así lo habia echo anteriormente y solo los cambio parcialmente, cuando pongo en algun programa "abrir archivo" me aparece la ventana con un logo gigante del escritorio lo cual me molesta, y cuando pongo "guardar imagen como" en un navegador, sucede lo mismo, alguien tiene idea de como solucionar este problema?, utilizo ubuntu 1
[05:15] <jotaxpe> 2.04. gracias
[05:15] <hellotest> hola
[05:15] <hellotest> que tal?
[05:15] <Nimicitorul> chicos aqui no se hablas espaniol :P
[05:16] <Nokiabot> Ubuntu is battery hungry
[05:16] <six86> Hello. I am preseeding mysql-server during ubuntu 12.04 setup and thats working fine. But when i also want to preseed rsyslog-mysql it fails with "ERROR 2002: can't connect...". When is the preseeded myql server started for the first time? Is there a way to preseed things that depend on a running mysql server?
[05:16] <Nimicitorul> Nokiabot:  try puppulinux
[05:16] <Nimicitorul> puppylinux
[05:17] <Nokiabot> Puppy linux same
[05:18] <Nokiabot> Main problem is overheating of my netbook on linux
[05:25] <oomsys> my ubuntu software center is not opening after installing opencv..how to resolve it
[05:26] <wilee-nilee> oomsys, Did the install finish with no problems and do you see any errors?
[05:26] <wilee-nilee> on the software cetre issue
[05:28] <wilee-nilee> oomsys, You might run sudo apt-get -f install to see if any installs need to be finished
[05:28] <oomsys> NO...uninstall & install process also complete
[05:28] <athan> Hello friends! Could someone tell me where `mount`'s logfile is?
[05:30] <wilee-nilee> oomsys, Be sure to preface answers to others with their nick, as well you mention no uninstall, be exacting in your posts.
[05:34] <antonio_> I just got an epson small-in-one xp-310...trying to find drivers for it...
[05:34] <athan> well now... I'm having some fun. `mount` tells me that the mount failed and to check the log, but NOTHING is to be found! It is a glusterfs volume I'm trying to mount, so I'm not sure if that has anything to do with it (online mentions blocked ports, postponing that til later), it would be nice if it actually logged, though. Where else might it be?
[05:34] <pavlos> athan, dmesg should tell you
[05:34] <athan> pavlos: Nothing, I tell ya!
[05:35] <ki7mt> grep -e mount -e ext4 -lR /var/log 2> /dev/null
[05:35] <athan> I'll even record my desktop as proof haha
[05:35] <athan> yes, yes, I did that
[05:35] <athan> that only lists the files involved, etc. etc.. I couldn't find snot.
[05:35] <wilee-nilee> antonio_, The printers gui does not find any?
[05:35] <ki7mt> Indeed, then grep the files.
[05:35] <athan> most just reffered to apt/dpkg
[05:36] <athan> :/
[05:36] <athan> concatMap?
[05:36] <ki7mt> I dont know of a logfile for mount per say.
[05:36] <bitcoinassassin> I've a 12.04lts install with encrypted home folder; the install will not boot - am not sure why. but what to mount the drive on another computer via usb and then recover information on the encrypted partition. I realize this is a process; just looking for a link to a good "how to". thanks
[05:36] <bitcoinassassin> *want
[05:36] <antonio_> wilee-nilee: its finding drivers for the workforce xp-310..not the small-in-one xp-310
[05:36] <athan> bitcoinassassin: Have you thought of a tomb?
[05:36] <bitcoinassassin> wilee-nilee and yes I'm still looking?
[05:36] <bitcoinassassin> athan, yes, I have
[05:37] <bitcoinassassin> and a bonfire
[05:37] <wilee-nilee> antonio_, Have you seen if those, I have had a similar thing happen, in that two drivers were found for almost same models, the one that should not work did
[05:38] <wilee-nilee> work*
[05:39] <ki7mt> bitcoinassassin, May be useful: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/en/man1/ecryptfs-recover-private.1.html
[05:40] <pavlos> athan, the auth.log file has some info
[05:41] <ki7mt> bitcoinassassin, the ref is outdated though, here's the post for 12.04, using a LiveCD: http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2011/04/introducing-ecryptfs-recover-private.html
[05:42] <athan> pavlos: Hmm... I'm just seeing a bunch of pam datemon stuff, I'm going to test again to make sure. Thank you for your help :)
[05:43] <athan> ahhhhh
[05:44] <athan> pavlos: I think you found it, thank you for your help, I do sincerely appreciate it. Maybe in the future we could have, like, parametric... detail... in responses / information...? O.o
[05:44] <bitcoinassassin> ki7mt...... thanks. i've tried various similar things and gotten nowhere
[05:45] <bitcoinassassin> desperately searching for my backup of this data.. it was a travel laptop but I back up everything
[05:45] <bitcoinassassin> anyway thank you.
[05:48] <gtuckerkellogg> so i've recently been getting a "System progam problem detected/ Do you want to report the problem now?"
[05:49] <gtuckerkellogg> I guess I'd really like to know what the problem is, but that doesn't seem to be an option in the widget
[05:49] <gtuckerkellogg> and i'm not seeing any new files in /var/crash
[05:56] <bseekins> Hello everybody
[06:02] <six86> Hello. I am preseeding mysql-server during ubuntu 12.04 setup and thats working fine. But when i also want to preseed rsyslog-mysql it fails with "ERROR 2002: can't connect...". When is the preseeded myql server started for the first time? Is there a way to preseed things that depend on a running mysql server?
[06:07] <francisquare> six86, try use 127.0.0.1 as your db host
[06:08] <six86> francisquare: How would i preseed this
[06:09] <ki7mt> http://www.rndguy.ca/2010/02/24/fully-automated-ubuntu-server-setups-using-preseed/
[06:09] <nectarys> does someone know how to reproduce this tmux theme please : http://i.stack.imgur.com/8hmKu.png ?
[06:09] <francisquare> six86, are you trying to connect to mysql?
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> !themes | nectarys
[06:10] <six86> francisquare:  like i said, I'm preseeding an installation and apparently the mysql server is not startet but only installed during installation
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> nectarys: maybe look into deviantart for relevant stuff?
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> nectarys: that looks bit like syntax highlight colors
[06:11] <francisquare> six86, please ignore my suggestion
[06:11] <nectarys> lotuspsychje, but how to make that ?
[06:13] <ki7mt> six86, Canonical has a nice white paper on preseeding as well, I just can't find the link at the moment.
[06:14] <ki7mt> six86, Found it: http://www.ubuntu.com/sites/default/files/active/White%20Paper%20Automated%20Deployments%20v1.pdf
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> nectarys: http://ethanschoonover.com/solarized
[06:14] <six86> ki7mt: I basically have no problem with preseeding. My installer runs fine. But there seems to be a problem when I want to preseed rsyslog-mysql too, because mysql is not started during installation i assume
[06:15] <aeon-ltd> nectarys:
[06:15] <nectarys> lotuspsychje, but it's not the same color scheme, no ?
[06:15] <aeon-ltd> nectarys: if it's not you need that user's terminal colors if they're custom
[06:16] <Ademan> does anyone know how to find out what journaling mode an ext3 partition is operating in?
[06:16] <ki7mt> six86, Yes, understand, both the links talk about setting the pw for mysql in preseeding.
[06:17] <ki7mt> six86, more times than not, access denined on mysql is either it's not running, or un or pw is incorrect.
[06:18] <six86> ki7mt: its definetly not running
[06:20] <ki7mt> six86, Then I'd be looking at the un / pw and adding the pw to the ks file
[06:21] <oomsys_> my software centre not opening..how to resolve
[06:22] <six86> ki7mt: The problem does appear when the installer tries to install the preseedet rsyslog-mysql right after the mysql installation. There is an error message displayed that it can't connect to mysql. When i chose ignore and then reboot i can connect to mysql just fine
[06:23] <six86> ki7mt: so the initial question was: is the mysql server started right after installation during setup?
[06:24] <six86> And if not, how can i preseed rsyslog-mysql to ignore ALL warnings and just install. I already have around 20 rsyslog-mysql preseed lines, but the message still appears...
[06:28] <ki7mt> six86, I dont know for certain, but that sequence suggests it's started after.
[06:33] <Orpheon> Hello, I've just done a fresh install of Ubuntu 14.04 64-bit, and I'm having problems with the desktop. Right-clicking on it doesn't work at all, and occasionally doing so triggers everything graphical to not respond. A "top" in one of the vitual terminals then shows ibus daemon using up vast amounts of CPU, but nothing shows up on the internet about that. Any ideas what could be at fault, or how to diagnose/fix this?
[06:36] <Orpheon> Anyone?
[06:37] <planetmaker> Orpheon, some patience :) (No, I don't either, but the morning just started)
[06:38] <Timvde> Hi. I'm using gnome-flashback on Ubuntu 14.04. My clock disappeared from the indicator applet. Restarting does not fix it. Does anyone have another idea?
[06:39] <Timvde> I also tried reinstalling indicator-datetime and reconfigure it with dpkg-reconfigure --frontend noninteractive tzdata
[06:40] <Timvde> Hmm, I didn't reboot after the last command (I did restart gnome-panel)
[06:40] <Timvde> Maybe I should try that first
[06:47] <ahmad> guys, I need help please.
[06:48] <cfhowlett> !details|ahmad
[06:48] <e^> is there any advantage in using a proprietary driver for the amd radeon 7670m?
[06:48] <Orpheon> !pastebin
[06:48] <Orpheon> !pastebinit
[06:49] <ahmad> I have a problem with the flash plugin in Firefox.. it makes my laptop overheat. any idea how to fix that?
[06:50] <xangua> ahmad: avoid flash is the fast answer
[06:50] <planetmaker> two ways: proper cooling for your PC and / or don't use flash
[06:50] <ahmad> what should I do then?
[06:50] <ahmad> uninstal flash?
[06:51] <Orpheon> there's always html5 etc, or maybe a graphical driver
[06:51] <e^> does it make the laptop overheat even if it's not using it?
[06:51] <e^> (cuz i have it installed too)
[06:51] <ahmad> whenever I play a youtube video, it makes it overheat.
[06:51] <ahmad> the fans go crazy.
[06:51] <ahmad> I figured it must be the flash.
[06:51] <e^> oh ok.
[06:52] <planetmaker> flash generally is a ressource hog and easily oocupies a full cpu core. If that overheats your cpu, then its cooling is clearly insufficient
[06:52] <planetmaker> just a fast-spinning fan is not bad, though. Just an indicator of cpu being used
[06:52] <planetmaker> flash simply is really badly programmed
[06:53] <ahmad> I know
[06:53] <ahmad> is there any alternative?
[06:53] <ki7mt> Gnash, lightspark, html
[06:53] <makara> hi. Anyone tried updating Lenovo BIOS lately?
[06:53] <makara> i can only find for Windows
[06:54] <bseekins> Hello everybody
[06:54] <bseekins> I just installed Ubuntu I'm new to linux
[06:54] <cfhowlett> !details|bseekins
[06:55] <ki7mt> ahmad, here's one from a quick search: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/video-without-flash/
[06:55] <Nikuya> I'm having trouble with suspend. when I command the computer to suspend in the terminal the computer takes me to the login screen.
[06:55] <Nikuya> also, when I close my laptop it suspends properly but it will not wake up from suspend and I have to reboot
[06:57] <helmut_> hi
[06:58] <e^> Nikuya: you have to press a button to get it to wake up.
[06:58] <Nikuya> haha. I tried that
[06:59] <e^> ok, cuz you know moving the mouse doesn't work.
[06:59] <e^> is there any advantage in using a proprietary driver for the amd radeon 7670m?
[07:00] <e^> might installing the driver mess things up?
[07:00] <ki7mt> e^,  That is always as possibility they cant be tested by Ubuntu
[07:01] <ki7mt> or updated for bugs or whatever
[07:02] <e^> ki7mt: ok, thanks.
[07:02] <wilee-nilee> Nikuya, This may help. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UnderstandingSuspend
[07:03] <miikkajo> hi, after upgrade to 14.04 i'm getting snmp warnings "Shared Memory" usage 100%, did 14.04 change something regarding of /dev/shm usage ?
[07:04] <k-joseph> hi guys, am trying to give read and write rights to a folder to a user and am failing, location is ~./folder/subFolder/realFolder, i run something like sudo 777 ~./folder/subFolder/realFolder and did not work, any help!!!
[07:04] <k-joseph> dkessel: 777 = 755
[07:04] <ki7mt> Nikuya, also see Ubuntu help, or yelp, why wont my computer turn back on after suspend
[07:05] <gargsms> I have been running into a strange error. I installed Ubuntu 14.04 earlier and installed latest fglrx drivers and it worked fine, but now I do the same it doesn't. It just sticks past the login screen.
[07:05] <bazhang> !chown | k-joseph
[07:05] <k-joseph> sudo 755 ~/.folder/subFolder/realFolder
[07:06] <k-joseph> ubottu: i know what they are, and how to add them, but when i run it does not add them
[07:06] <k-joseph> bazhang: sorry, i meant to you
[07:07] <bazhang> k-joseph, you need to pastebin the full command
[07:07] <bazhang> k-joseph, sudo 755 is not a command
[07:07] <ki7mt> k-joseph, add a group, then add the users to the group, then chown -R user:user ~/<path-to-folder>
[07:07] <k-joseph> bazhang: sorry, even sudo chmod 755 ~/.folder/subFolder/realFolder
[07:07] <k-joseph> ki7mt: i tried that yesturday and failed still
[07:09] <ki7mt> actually, should have said change ownership to the group, but anyway .. thats odd then.
[07:09] <k-joseph> ki7mt: am already owning the folder, i used this chown -R k-joseph:k-joseph ~/.OpenMRS/solr/conf/
[07:10] <ki7mt> k-joseph, you can't access the folder, or another user can't access the folder?
[07:10] <gargsms> Anyone?
[07:10] <gargsms> I have been running into a strange error. I installed Ubuntu 14.04 earlier and installed latest fglrx drivers and it worked fine, but now I do the same it doesn't. It just sticks past the login screen.
[07:11] <k-joseph> ki7mt: how can i make it accessible to any user?
[07:11] <k-joseph> dkessel: i can access it in the ui
[07:11] <duncannz> how does gpg identify me as opposed to someone who created a gpg key with my name?
[07:11] <ki7mt> k-joseph, use samba, and share it.
[07:12] <ki7mt> duncannz, hopefully with a passphrase
[07:13] <duncannz> ki7mt: yeah i have a passphrase. but i don't share the passphrase with the person im sending the signed message to?
[07:14] <ki7mt> duncannz, exactly you dont share you passphrase .. only use should ahve that, and the private half of the key pair.
[07:14] <duncannz> ki7mt: yeah. so couldn't someone else just make a gpg key with my name? and sign a message with it
[07:15] <ki7mt> No, the key pair wont match
[07:15] <ki7mt> Unless they snagged your private key and passphrase somehow.
[07:16] <ki7mt> In that cast, you need to de-activate it, whihc you should create a deactivate key when you generate a key pair.
[07:16] <ki7mt>  .. case ..
[07:16] <duncannz> ki7mt: sorry i don't understand. the process i did was 1) create key under my name, 2) sign a message. couldn't anyone do the same, and choose some other passphrase for their private key? which doesn't matter because the signature will still validate, but through their key instead of mine
[07:17] <arlen> that's why you publish your public key
[07:17] <annax> hello can anyone help me with camera issue ?
[07:18] <arlen> ideally you publish your key fingerprint on something only you have access like your personal site or blog, so when someone gets a signed message they can verify
[07:19] <duncannz> arlen: ah i see now. but i did this command -->  gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --send-keys $MYKEYID
[07:19] <duncannz> so couldn't anyone do that process of 1) create keypair under my name, 2) publish public key, 3) sign a message
[07:19] <arlen> yes
[07:20] <annax> hello can anyone help me with camera issue ?
[07:20] <duncannz> so those instructions were bad?
[07:20] <arlen> nope
[07:20] <ki7mt> duncannz, this may help: https://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual/x56.html
[07:20] <arlen> they were correct, but then you also put your key fingerprint on your site, or twitter profile etc, so people can tell your key from the fakes
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> !details | annax
[07:21] <ki7mt> duncannz, and here'a full how too: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-use-gpg-to-encrypt-and-sign-messages-on-an-ubuntu-12-04-vps
[07:21] <duncannz> thanks ki7mt i will read through those
[07:22] <ki7mt> It's for a server, but the concept is the same.
[07:22] <annax> just does not work :) only sound but nothing else i am new on linux
[07:22] <Nothing_Much> Why does my PC restart when radeon.dpm=0 isn't in grub?
[07:22] <bazhang> annax, sound? on your camera?
[07:22] <arlen> duncannz: as an example I have mine at https://arlen.io/key so if someone gets a signed message from me, they can verify the fingerprint
[07:22] <annax> web cam
[07:22] <david_> iiuij
[07:22] <annax> for skype
[07:22] <duncannz> arlen: exactly. that makes sense to me.
[07:22] <annax> connected with usb
[07:22] <duncannz> because only you can push a key to that site
[07:23] <arlen> yup
[07:23] <ki7mt> duncannz, do yourself a favor, if you intend to publish a key, create a revocation certificate for the key.
[07:23] <duncannz> but anyone can push a key to keyserver.mit.edu so ..
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> annax: did you enable video icon from skype when calling someone?
[07:23] <duncannz> pgp.mit.edu*
[07:23] <ki7mt> The save it and your private key in a safe place.
[07:23] <ki7mt> then .. .
[07:23] <Nothing_Much> Why does my PC restart when radeon.dpm=0 isn't in grub? I'm using an AMD APU and I reported a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/1325165
[07:23] <annax> yes
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> annax: you can look in skype options if your webcam works, can you check?
[07:24] <annax> device not found :(
[07:24] <arlen> duncannz: right, keyservers like that are just an easy way to store your public key for others to get. they don't verify anyone
[07:24] <ki7mt> duncannz, yes, anyone can, but not anyone has your private key and passphrase.
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> annax: can you lsusb from terminal to see if your webcam shows?
[07:27] <annax> Bus 002 Device 007: ID 0fce:018c Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications AB
[07:27] <annax> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[07:27] <annax> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[07:27] <annax> Bus 003 Device 004: ID 0ac8:301b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. ZC0301 Webcam
[07:27] <annax> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[07:27] <annax> Bus 001 Device 012: ID 046d:c018 Logitech, Inc. Optical Wheel Mouse
[07:27] <unopaste> annax you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[07:28] <annax> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7585648/
[07:29] <annax> am i unmuted already?
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> annax: wich ubuntu version you have?
[07:29] <annax> kali linux
[07:29] <duncannz> sigh
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> annax: kali is not supported here sorry
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> !kali | annax
[07:31] <annax> yes but that is the only linux that works on my old computer i did try many of them but always i had problem  so that is the only one that works and is still linux
[07:31] <bazhang> annax, so go to their support channel
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> annax: you can try lubuntu 14.04 if you like for an old computer
[07:31] <annax> how to do it?
[07:31] <ki7mt> I doubt that it's the only one, but nonetheless, it's not supported here.
[07:32] <annax> i did that to but there grafic not work
[07:32] <annax> how to go to them ?
[07:33] <bazhang>  kali-linux (#kali-linux)  <<<----- annax
[07:34] <ki7mt> I tried to type that, ended up in the room :-)
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> annax: if you can run kali, you should be able to run xubuntu or lubuntu aswell
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> annax: you will have better drivers support for webcam
[07:37] <ki7mt> I would think so, it's based on Debian if I recall.
[07:37] <annax> it looks like no one will to help there !! please guys help me
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> annax: as we said above, we cant help you on kali..
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> annax: install a version from topic, or xubuntu - lubuntu
[07:38] <bazhang> it's offtopic here annax , please stop asking for support
[07:38] <ki7mt> Also, form there site:  --> Kali is a Linux distribution specifically geared towards professional penetration testing and security auditing <<--  Old hardware probably not a good choice.
[07:39] <ki7mt> duncannz, did you get the answers you needed about keys ?
[07:40] <duncannz> ki7mt: yep i think that clarified it thanks
[07:40] <ki7mt> kk
[07:43] <killer> hey , where can i see the most downloaded apps in software center for  a particular month both paid and  free
[07:44] <ki7mt> duncannz, there's lots of how-to's out ther, but 3 things will keep straight, kepp you private key and passphase safe, and create a revocation certificate, they rest is pretty easy.
[07:45] <duncannz> ki7mt: yep. what was confusing me mainly was the open keyserver (mit). but now i realise that is not meant to be a way to securely identify that the key matches the real life identity it all makes more sense
[07:47] <ki7mt> duncannz, any can create a ky, but only your priate key says that it's really you signing something.
[07:47] <duncannz> yep
[07:47] <ki7mt> Unless it gets jacked
[07:48] <ki7mt> then you just revoke it.
[07:49] <ki7mt> killer, It's in Ubuntu Developer somewhere, or at least it used to be.
[07:49] <Guest16245> hello, can anyone please help me? I cannot install any linux from my usb, ive tried many different iso's , Unetbootin, LiLi programs. The problem is : Black screen when it loads to the first initial install. I tried -nomodeset (on linux mint) and then i got a grey screen. On ubuntu i just recieve a black screen and my reset button will not work. My pc Specs are +Windows 7, Intel i7 3770k, R9280x Sapphire Vapor , 8gb DDR3, Asrock h77 pro 4 MVP
[07:53] <zzakc>  hello, can anyone please help me? I cannot install any linux from my usb, ive tried many different iso's , Unetbootin, LiLi programs. The problem is : Black screen when it loads to the first initial install. I tried -nomodeset (on linux mint) and then i got a grey screen. On ubuntu i just recieve a black screen and my reset button will not work. My pc Specs are +Windows 7, Intel i7 3770k, R9280x Sapphire Vapor , 8gb DDR3, Asrock h77 pro 4 MVP
[07:53] <wilee-nilee> zzakc, Do a text install with the mini.
[07:53] <wilee-nilee> !mini | zzakc
[07:54] <zzakc> sorry ito be stupid, but what is  mini.
[07:54] <wilee-nilee> ^^^^
[07:54] <zzakc> ahh
[07:54] <zzakc> can i do this to usb? its all i have
[07:54] <Trozz> you would need internet during install
[07:54] <wilee-nilee> zzakc, Yep, a tiny download it pulls the install from the net.
[07:54] <zzakc> i have internet its just my screen always goes black as soon as the installer loads but i will try the minimal cd image now
[07:55] <zzakc> thank you wilee-nilee
[07:56] <wilee-nilee> zzakc, No problem, sounds like you do get a gui, so should be able to replicate in the install.
[07:57] <zzakc> i hope so, i was thinking it could help if i enable my onboard and disable the sapphire pci card , but
[07:57] <zzakc> im terrified that if i enable onboard as primary in bios, i will lose my screen completely
[07:57] <zzakc> because at the moment, if i plug my dvi into the onboard, there is no signal, even after reset , no bios
[07:58] <ki7mt> No need to be terrified, if all else fails, and your really stuck, reset the bios.
[07:59] <ki7mt> May nee dot pull the batt, but should be able to get back to OEM settings.
[07:59] <Trozz> commonly  the machine would attempt to use the additional card over the onboard, if you still cannot get a display (correctly) give it a try and if it doesn't display disconnect the pci card (would force it to use onboard)
[07:59] <ki7mt> need
[07:59] <Trozz> a bios reset shouldn't be needed...
[07:59] <zzakc> ok trozz
[08:00] <zzakc> its a big ass card lol
[08:00] <Trozz> yeah its likely like my GTX it takes most of the bloody case ¬_¬
[08:00] <k-joseph> dkayiwa: hi
[08:00] <zzakc> lol
[08:01] <zzakc> ok thanks i will give it a go maybe i will be back on the channel with ubuntu!
[08:02] <leeyaa> helo
[08:02] <leeyaa> hello*
[08:02] <leeyaa> ps -ef | wc -l shows i have 700 processes, how to find out what are they? htop shows 500 and i do know php-fpm is taking about 300
[08:05] <ki7mt> pstree is one way, but with that many running, gonna be a long list.
[08:07] <leeyaa> ki7mt: well it also shows about 500 like htoop
[08:07] <leeyaa> htop*
[08:07] <ki7mt> dump it to a file pstree >> process.txt
[08:07] <ki7mt> then look at it with an editor
[08:07] <Guest75072> ciao
[08:07] <Guest75072> !list
[08:08] <lotuspsychje> leeyaa: what exactly are you searching for in processes?
[08:08] <leeyaa> lotuspsychje: i want to know why my monitoring shows same output as ps and what exactly is happening
[08:08] <Nokiabot> Why my netbook heats up on linux -ideapad s10 2
[08:08] <ki7mt> what's generateing 700 of them
[08:08] <leeyaa> ki7mt: here is pstree http://bpaste.net/show/340058/
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> leeyaa: nmap -sV yourself can also be handy to determine some services
[08:09] <ki7mt> Well there's 356*[php-fpm] that's allot
[08:09] <leeyaa> thats normal for my workflow
[08:10] <leeyaa> where are the other 400
[08:12] <fishor> hello all, i just updated my ubuntu 14.04 and todays update killed unity or compiz. Right now i have no more working window manager. Can some body help me please :)
[08:12] <leeyaa> ew compiz ;p
[08:12] <fishor> leeyaa, not funny :D
[08:12] <felmoltor> h
[08:12] <ki7mt> leeyaa, well 50*[{mysqld}] but all the rest dont look to ads up to 400 that's for sure.
[08:13] <leeyaa> ki7mt: yeag
[08:13] <ki7mt> Maybe 150 or so, .. so there's about 250 or so that's MIA there
[08:14] <Trozz> fishor: what does lightdm say when you attempt to start it?
[08:14] <leeyaa> i guess i just need to change the way im monitoring them ki7mt
[08:14] <leeyaa> but ps also shows 700
[08:14] <ki7mt> Yeah, but what are they .. thats the tricky be so it would seem.
[08:15] <leeyaa> ki7mt: thats what i would like to find out
[08:15] <wilee-nilee> fishor, Any back info leading to this?
[08:15] <fishor> Trozz, hard to say. If i'll restart lightdm it will kill my IRC session
[08:15] <fishor> wilee-nilee, moment
[08:15] <Trozz> fishor: fire up Irssi in another tty?
[08:16] <fishor> right now i tried to "unity --replace"
[08:17] <wilee-nilee> fishor, That is an old command what release is this?
[08:17] <ki7mt> leeyaa, well ps aux will list them all but it's messy
[08:17] <fishor> ubuntu 14.04
[08:18] <Trozz> anything showing in /var/log/lightdm?
[08:18] <wilee-nilee> fishor, you have to reboot to get the full deal. http://www.itworld.com/software/416001/reset-unity-desktop-ubuntu-1404
[08:18] <ki7mt> leeyaa, pstree and htop eaisiest to see but if they not listing them all something is amiss
[08:18] <wilee-nilee> maybe a stop lightdm in a tty would work, I would just reboot
[08:19] <ki7mt> leeyaa, Im assuming the is a web-server running nginx && php yes?
[08:19] <leeyaa> ki7mt: correct
[08:19] <fishor> wilee-nilee, i reboot many times
[08:19] <leeyaa> and some other services as well, machine is pretty big
[08:20] <wilee-nilee> fishor, After running the commands in that link.
[08:20] <wilee-nilee> fishor, compiz is the wm and unity is a plugin in compiz, are you aware of this?
[08:21] <fishor> wilee-nilee, no... but i'll run now  command form your link
[08:21] <MannerMan> So I have 12.04 machine with lots of PPA's that I want to upgrade to 14.04, all PPA's have trusty support but what is the correct way to upgrade them? Regular upgrade just disables all..
[08:22] <zzakc> Hi, I tried the mini install, it got a lot further than the others(I could see an installation menu, chose time and date, etc) but it froze at detecting hardware and devices 0%
[08:22] <susundberg> MannerMan: you need to update your full system to 14.04, you cannot generally mix different versions
[08:22] <ki7mt> leeyaa, are there mutiple users accessing the box that could be running jobs?
[08:23] <wilee-nilee> MannerMan, Yes you want them disabled, you would turn them on once upgraded, just hope the upgrades works, ppa's add packages can be an issue on occasion.
[08:23] <susundberg> zzakc: with some weird platform i guess. Try hitting ctrl+alt+f1 or f2 to get console access
[08:23] <wilee-nilee> added*
[08:23] <leeyaa> ki7mt: yes, each php-fpm pool runs in different user
[08:23] <fishor> wilee-nilee, tried  no changes.  right now i see that i can move windows but, i can't resize them and there is not window decoration
[08:23] <ki7mt> leeyaa, any MPI type job >
[08:23] <leeyaa> is run by*
[08:23] <leeyaa> oh god grammar
[08:23] <leeyaa> ki7mt: whats mpi ?
[08:23] <wilee-nilee> fishor, Have you messed with compiz?
[08:23] <ki7mt> That's a no then :-)
[08:24] <leeyaa> ;p
[08:24] <MannerMan> wilee-nilee: hm okey.. thanks then
[08:24] <zzakc> susundberg: i am new, what do i do once i am in console to fix the detecting hardware?
[08:24] <fishor> wilee-nilee, no. just default unitiy configuration
[08:24] <wilee-nilee> MannerMan, YOU can purge ppa's if needed.
[08:24] <wilee-nilee> !ppa-purge | MannerMan
[08:25] <leeyaa> ki7mt: ill just go ask zabbix guys how does its default template count number of processes so i know what is happening
[08:25] <wilee-nilee> fishor, Did you ever have a working unity desktop?
[08:25] <susundberg> zzakc: i suggest not to continue if the installation fails and you are fresh on ubuntu, not without some proper support. It might be rocky path
[08:25] <susundberg> zzakc: on what platform/hardware are you trying to install ?
[08:25] <MannerMan> wilee-nilee: Yeah, I know. Would be cool if you could enable them to upgraded along with the system, since I figure it will be pretty broken upon first login..
[08:26] <ki7mt> leeyaa, I may be due to the fpm pool, mabe some processes spawn others but are counted in the fpm sum or something.
[08:26] <ki7mt> it may ..
[08:26] <leeyaa> ki7mt: fpm does spawn others yes
[08:26] <leeyaa> each user can spawn more processes for his pool
[08:26] <zzakc> my specs are i7 3770k , 8gb ram , r9 280x Sapphire Vapor , Asrock h77 pro4 mvp , windows 7 64
[08:26] <fishor> wilee-nilee,  yes for some hours before update
[08:27] <ki7mt> leeyaa, I'd suspect it's a counter situation then, system vs. user, but still should be able to test for it.
[08:27] <zzakc> i cant install any linux they all freeze so i came here and wilee suggested i dl the mini iso, so i did, and it seemed to work but it froze at detecting hardware
[08:28] <wilee-nilee> fishor, Have you installed any proprietary graphic drivers, or any drivers than on the reboot you have this mess?
[08:28] <wilee-nilee> any graphic drivers that is
[08:28] <zzakc> ive used ubuntu before and i quite enjoyed it ( on my old pc) and i was hoping to switch to it for a primary OS on this machine
[08:28] <fishor> wilee-nilee, no i use intel GPU and completle opensourced PC
[08:29] <susundberg> zzakc: sounds like feasible plan, to me it sounds like you have some 'excotic' hardware there that causes the trouble
[08:29] <susundberg> zzakc: to start debugging we would need to know what causes the trouble. You could maybe try to boot with some 'rescue' cd and try to do some lshw there, but as i said, if it does not work out of the box, and you are green on linux i would suggest that you try again maybe later
[08:29] <zzakc> what if i unplugged my graphics card, and gave it a crack
[08:30] <susundberg> zzakc: or you could try the bleeding edge installation if that helps
[08:30] <fishor> wilee-nilee, hm.... may be virtula-box. it is only closed source SW...
[08:30] <susundberg> zzakc: well it might helps, its bit hard to say what part of the hardware is causing troubles
[08:30] <wilee-nilee> fishor, I'm not sure, but my guess is some fiddling around has caused this if it worked, or an update/upgrade. Try the guest account and see if it works, if it does than my hypothesis is probably correct on the fiddling.
[08:31] <fishor> wilee-nilee, no guset session has sam issue.
[08:31] <zzakc> ah i see , well i guess i will try the bleeding edge installation
[08:31] <zzakc> what is that
[08:32] <wilee-nilee> fishor, Have you run a update/upgrade since the install, if so were there any held packages, or a partial upgrade warning?
[08:32] <susundberg> zzakc: that is the next release, still in debug phase, so its more unstable than current version
[08:32] <susundberg> zzakc: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[08:33] <fishor> wilee-nilee, yes i run update :) i already told it some times. I sure for 100% it is after update. But no, there was no warnings
[08:33] <zzakc> ok thank you for all the help i appreciate the time given
[08:34] <wilee-nilee> fishor, I wish I had an answer, but I'm at a loss. ;)
[08:34] <Trozz> fishor: any chance of providing the log file?
[08:34] <Trozz> hopefully we can see it failing (possibly)
[08:36] <fishor> wilee-nilee,  worst thing... i made update on two PCs at same time... well, both have same results :( o one of it i tried to install gnome-shell to have at least one working WM, but after ti it has even more error then before :/
[08:38] <wilee-nilee> fishor, You could install lubuntu probably and have a desktop to work from to fix this.
[08:38] <wilee-nilee> the lubuntu-desktop
[08:39] <wilee-nilee> fishor, These virtual setups perchance?
[08:40] <fishor> wilee-nilee, ?
[08:40] <wilee-nilee> fishor, a question mark means nothing without a context.
[08:41] <bazhang> fishor, are these in virtual box, vmware?
[08:42] <fishor> bazhang, no
[08:45] <Nikuya> wilee-nilee, ki7mt: thanks a bunch for the help earlier. I fixed the suspend problem by disabling the grub bootloader graphics
[08:46] <antonio_> [Virtualbox question] I'm trying to access a new printer via wifi.  I'm running Win XP in a virtual box...linux is the host machine.  I'm not sure if I'll be able to see the printer on a wifi connection...since XP is using the connection from Virtualbox.  What can I do?
[08:48] <trijntje> I have this anoying problem that the first time I search in the dash after a reboot it literaly takes 10 seconds to find a program, but every search after that is fast. How can I fix this, its making unity completely useless, I now mostly just use the terminal to start things since its faster
[08:50] <bazhang> antonio_, perhaps try in #vbox as well
[08:51] <antonio_> bazhang: I've asked quite a few times...no one is answering
[08:55] <aurs> does anyone know when this will be fixed? https://bugs.launchpad.net/wireshark/+bug/1311173
[08:55] <cfhowlett> antonio_ you're "not sure" you'll be able to see the printer ... perhaps you should try.
[08:57] <cfhowlett> aurs "unassigned" generally means no one is working on it.
[08:57] <aurs> I'm not sure, but I think it actually is fixed and just needs a new build
[08:58] <Guest48378> antonio_, additionally your xp vm (guest) will probably need a network interface of type "Bridged Adapter" so that it is in the local lan of the wifi printer (and the host) and can "see" it
[08:58] <aurs> I'd do it if I knew how :)
[08:58] <trijntje> I have this anoying problem that the first time I search in the dash after a reboot it literaly takes 10 seconds to find a program, but every search after that is fast. How can I fix this, its making unity completely useless, I now mostly just use the terminal to start things since its faster
[09:02] <testdr> hi, did anyone notice the additional https-traffic with the new firefox-29-update for mouseover-moves over https-links in webpages. I could verify it for ubuntu-12.04 and lubuntu-14.04.
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: older computer?
[09:03] <Trozz> testdr: attempting to preload maybe? I haven't noticed it but I haven't been checking
[09:03] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: did you try disable background blur from ccsm?
[09:04] <testdr> Trozz: a newer nightly-build firefox does it not - and the older firefox-28 (before update) did it not.
[09:04] <trijntje> lotuspsychje, it came with vista, it has a core 2 Duo CPU and Radeon HD5670 videocard. I can still run ubuntu within virtualbox, so thats not the problem
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: 14.04 clean install?
[09:04] <trijntje> lotuspsychje, its not the opening of the dash thats slow, its the appearance of the search results for installed programs
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: how about disable internet search from dash and amazon
[09:05] <trijntje> no, not a clean install. I forgot what I installed originally, do you know how to find that?
[09:05] <Trozz> testdr: Strange, I'm on a Win machine at the moment but if I can get on a box ill give it a try, how you checking for the traffic?
[09:05] <trijntje> lotuspsychje, already done
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: might be old leftover from upgrade maybe? i would surely try 14.04 clean to see if it fixes
[09:06] <testdr> Trozz: in the german ubuntu-forum there is a whole thread about it - you need english details?
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: trusty should be really fast on your machine
[09:06] <Trozz> testdr: send me the link (I'll see how much I can understand my german is very basic)
[09:07] <trijntje> lotuspsychje, its fast generally, just the first time after a reboot it takes 10 seconds or so
[09:08] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: many packages installed on system?
[09:08] <aurs> same for me trijntje. Looks like it's searching Internet and the external stuff first, and then after a few seconds, applications
[09:08] <aurs> but only on the first search for me too
[09:08] <user123321> Ubuntu is awesome! ^^
[09:08] <lotuspsychje> aurs: you also upgraded, or clean install?
[09:09] <aurs> lotuspsychje, upgraded. Don't remember how far back though
[09:10] <trijntje> lotuspsychje, not really, I tend to stick to the defaults. And its lightning fast after the first time
[09:10] <cfhowlett> aurs as noted in message #10, it has been fixed in debian, so perhaps we're just waiting for the upstream to flow downstream ...
[09:10] <lotuspsychje> well in my opninion, trusty supports till 2019 its worth a while to install it clean..
[09:10] <lotuspsychje> all the machines i installed clean with trusty, fast as rocket
[09:11] <trijntje> aurs, did you update to trust alpha/beta or only after the release?
[09:12] <trijntje> lotuspsychje, I tend to install every release, so re-installing every 6 months is anoying
[09:12] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: any relevant info show your syslog while opening dash/apps?
[09:12] <aurs> trijntje, no, I waited for the release
[09:12] <aurs> cfhowlett, equipping ring of patience :D
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> !info wireshark | aurs this the version you using?
[09:14] <trijntje> lotuspsychje, nothing obvious at least, but I'm not really sure what to look for
[09:14] <babinlonston> Hi Everyone, Is there any one familiar with iptables , Please guide me to get fix, I have applied the DROP for every chain INPUT, OUTPUT, FORWARD, Now i have added rules for ssh to remote some machine but i cant access the remote machine , Please have a look at this paste i have explained every think there.
[09:14] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: maybe do a realtime tail -f /var/log/syslog and mess a bit with dash
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: or look in terminal dmesg
[09:15] <babinlonston> Hi Everyone, Is there any one familiar with iptables , Please guide me to get fix, I have applied the DROP for every chain INPUT, OUTPUT, FORWARD, Now i have added rules for ssh to remote some machine but i cant access the remote machine , Please have a look at this paste i have explained every think there. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7586164/
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> !iptables | babinlonston
[09:16] <aurs> lotuspsychje, dpkg -s wireshark says Version: 1.10.6-1
[09:16] <trijntje> lotuspsychje, I'll try that later, since I'll have to reboot to trigger the behaviour. Thanks so far, maybe I should just reinstall, but thats such a hassle ;)
[09:16] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: aptoncd might be able to help :p
[09:16] <babinlonston> okay
[09:17] <lotuspsychje> aurs: maybe the #wireshark guys might know anything usefull?
[09:17] <aurs> lotuspsychje, I just thought they've fixed it and it needs a new build for the deb package, but I can ask there
[09:18] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: maybe preload could also boost things?
[09:18] <jost> I have got a HDD with a total of about 150GB space. Now I mirrored the disk using dd (dd if=/dev/sda ibs=4M | ssh foo@bar 'dd of=/filename.img obs=4M'). The command didn't throw an error, but the resulting file is only 77GB big. Why?
[09:18] <lotuspsychje> !info preload | trijntje
[09:19] <trijntje> lotuspsychje, I dont think so, nothing else is slow to start, and I dont hear a lot of HD activity
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: weird indeed, never seen this issue for applications only
[09:20] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: you have lot of packages installed?
[09:20] <Aturnwald> Hello, can me help one, please ? I'll don't know who I'll do it right
[09:20] <lotuspsychje> Aturnwald: you can just ask your ubuntu question here mate
[09:21] <trijntje> lotuspsychje, dpkg --get-selections | wc -l gives 2865, but thats all packages of course
[09:21] <Aturnwald> O.K. in Ubuntu, there is a small pop up box, wich comes, when I move over a few programms, and my question is, can I change the time of the box
[09:21] <trijntje> I dont think I have installed many programs
[09:21] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: maybe it just lags because of big list?
[09:22] <aurs> lotuspsychje: it is fixed in wireshark, just needs to be backported to the version in ubuntu and rebuilt (https://bugs.wireshark.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=9179)
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> aurs: ah kk
[09:22] <cristian_c> Hi
[09:23] <trijntje> lotuspsychje, how many packages do you have? /bin and /usr/bin/ have 3000 programs together. How many do you have there?
[09:23] <cristian_c> I can't open a bug report in launchpad
[09:23] <cristian_c> I'm redirected to the wiki page
[09:23] <cristian_c> How can I solve this?
[09:23] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[09:23] <trijntje> cristian_c, yes, people want you to report bugs from your ubuntu installation
[09:23] <cristian_c> ok
[09:23] <trijntje> ubuntu-bug firefox in a terminal for example
[09:23] <cristian_c> ok
[09:23] <geirha> cristian_c: read the wiki page, it says what to do ...
[09:24] <Guest48378> trijntje, maybe deactivating the online lenses is speeding up your dash? => https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+dash+deactivate+lens+online
[09:24] <arcsky> whi ist so tricky to get an ssh welcome msg with Banner?
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: 1900 in /bin
[09:24] <trijntje> Guest48378, already done that
[09:24] <Guest48378> trijntje, ok
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: 152 in /bin 1900 usr/bin
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: i think you might wanna cleanup a bit :p
[09:25] <Aturnwald> Hello, can anyone help me, please. I have a question. When I open a programm, or something else, sometimes when I stay over a text, there comes a small popup windows, with a few notes in it, and my question is, can I change the time of the period from the popup windows, because it disappers to fast
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: can you try 14.04 liveusb and check your dash apps maybe
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: see if it goes faster on live
[09:27] <trijntje> lotuspsychje, really? That is weird. Still, it would be 1 kb to keep those cached in memory
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> Aturnwald: what popup windows are you talking about?
[09:27] <fishor> thank you for all suggestions. the issue was in nevest version of libgl
[09:27] <fishor> here is the workaround http://askubuntu.com/questions/475683/unity-not-working-14-04
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> !ssh | arcsky
[09:28] <fishor> be carefoul with trasty-updates
[09:28] <trijntje> lotuspsychje, i'll try that as well, thanks
[09:28] <Aturnwald> hello,  can anyone help me, please?
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: maybe find some shredder package to clean system first?
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: i use ubuntu-tweak for cleaning out data, but im sure there are better ways :p
[09:29] <fdegen> whois lotuspsychje
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> Aturnwald: can you make a screenshot of those popup windows you mean?
[09:32] <Aturnwald_> hello, can anyone help me please to solve my problem, with ubuntu 13.04
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> !eol | Aturnwald_
[09:33] <DJones> Aturnwald_: You need to explain your problem in the channel before anybody will know if they can help, but bear in mind that 13.04 is end of life & no longer supported, so you should upgrade to 13.10 at least
[09:33] <aurs> lotuspsychje, I don't have a lot of files in /bin, but the first search in unity is still very slow
[09:34] <rohith_> hi
[09:35] <moarrr> i have a question
[09:35] <moarrr> do you guys think ubuntu is more or less secure than debian?
[09:37] <moarrr> anyone?
[09:38] <bcvery> !ot | moarrr, that question may well be more suited here
[09:38] <moarrr> ok i just asked because i wanted to know which one is best to install for my bitcoin/darkcoin wallet
[09:39] <moarrr> i need something secure and debain doesnt seem to work with my network
[09:39] <moarrr> on this machine
[09:39] <mexi_d3> moarrr, I am sure it does work if correctly configured.
[09:39] <moarrr> mexi_d3: yes, but ive been trying to configure it for hours, and before my gui was working, now its not
[09:40] <aurs> no network is pretty secure though ;)
[09:40] <moarrr> i really dont have the time and experience and knowledge to do this
[09:40] <mexi_d3> moarrr, Does Ubuntu work on your network?
[09:40] <moarrr> aurs: no network?
[09:40] <moarrr> mexi_d3: i havent tried yet
[09:40] <aurs> moarrr: I was just joking
[09:40] <moarrr> i just want something that is easy to install right now, debian is giving me a headache
[09:41] <moarrr> and i need all open ports/servers disabled
[09:41] <moarrr> and things secured as much as possible
[09:41] <moarrr> no ssh/etc
[09:41] <mexi_d3> moarrr, Ubuntu opens avahi and dhcp ports by default. Other than that, there are no open ports.
[09:42] <mexi_d3> moarrr, I recommend not using a gui if you want secure
[09:42] <moarrr> i need a gui mexi_d3
[09:43] <moarrr> what exactly is the reason a gui makes ubuntu insecure?
[09:43] <mexi_d3> moarrr, It takes like 5 minutes to try an ubuntu livecd. it will answer a lot of your questions.
[09:44] <moarrr> urgh nevermind
[09:44] <mexi_d3> moarrr, The more code you have running, the larger the space for exploits. Root priviledge elevation etc.
[09:45] <mexi_d3> moarrr, Basically it come down to: If you don't have a gui you don't get hacked by a security vulnerability in the gui
[09:45] <moarrr> im not worried about that mexi_d3
[09:46] <moarrr> the only software i plan to run is firefox and bitcoin-qt (and a few other cryptocurrency's which are based on that)
[09:46] <moarrr> i just dont wanna be hacked from the outside
[09:46] <Fuchs> then, as I explained in the OT channel, assure that your server is either not offering any services that listen to things from the outside
[09:46] <Fuchs> or, if you do, read on how to configure them properly.
[09:47] <Fuchs> choosing a distribution does not take away the need to properly read the documentation of the things you are going to set up and run.
[09:47] <moarrr> ok i think i got this
[09:47] <moarrr> what is avahi and how do i disable it?
[09:47] <Fuchs> a zeroconf deamon
[09:47] <Fuchs> by stopping it. Why would you do that, though? Zeroconf, by definition, is used for _local_ discovery
[09:48] <moarrr> ok Fuchs, so theres no danger of letting avahi/dhcp run?
 what exactly is the reason a gui makes ubuntu insecure?
[09:48] <gry> it does not
[09:49] <mexi_d3> gry, It makes it less secure.
[09:49] <mexi_d3> gry, 'insecure' is a bad word to use
[09:49] <gry> not really
[09:49] <gry> it was not my word, and I disagree with the 'less secure' concept you're saying
[09:50] <mexi_d3> gry, So you are saying there are no security vulnerabilities in the desktop? That wouldn't be a problem if it was not installed?
[09:51] <gry> I'm saying that if your use-case needs both security and gui, you should use it - something simpler than a DE if you wish, but don't just hide from its problems
[09:53] <Numline1> Hello, I'm using Duplicity (Duply) and S3 for backing up my server. It says it's incremental backup and I'm not sure about the terminology here. Does that mean I'll be able to restore older versions of my files or is it just full data backup?
[09:53] <mexi_d3> gry: That's not even remotely identical to what you said earlier. I'm glad you now agree though.
[10:20] <cebor> is it possible to reset /etc/default/grub ??
[10:20] <cebor> to default settings ?
[10:21] <cfhowlett> cebor sudo update-grub
[10:22] <cebor> cfhowlett: so i remove the cfg file, and it will be regenerated ?
[10:22] <nectarys_> how do I to get this color scheme please : http://i.stack.imgur.com/8hmKu.png ?
[10:23] <cfhowlett> cebor do NOT remove the config file.  that command will rewrite it.
[10:23] <num7> I i'm booting from a LiveCD (ubuntu 12.04) and wanna  find out which Version (WinXP, Win7 x64 oder x32) is installed on a hdd, how can i find out the version?
[10:23] <ikonia> num7: look at the boot.ini ?
[10:23] <cebor> cfhowlett: no it sets the settings defined inside
[10:24] <num7> ikonia, Can i open the boot.ini in nano or another texteditor and there is standing the version?
[10:24] <cfhowlett> cebor OK - rename the .config but don't remove.  CYA ...
[10:24] <ikonia> it's just a text file
[10:24] <cebor> but removing the file and then run update-grub, does the trick
[10:24] <ikonia> num7: the guys in ##windows can give you other ideas of methods to check the windows version
[10:24] <num7> ikonia, okay, thank you
[10:26] <nectarys_>  how do I to get this color scheme please : http://i.stack.imgur.com/8hmKu.png ?
[10:27] <geirha> nectarys_: for vim or for tmux?
[10:27] <geirha> (or is that screen?)
[10:27] <nectarys_> geirha, for tmux
[10:29] <geirha> nectarys_: I don't know. It might be completely custom by the author of that screenshot for all we know.
[10:30] <nectarys_> geirha, ok thank you. but otherwise, is there any library that I can apply to change the default color scheme, please ?
[10:32] <geirha> nectarys_: I read that as "how do I configure tmux?" in which case I recommend joining #tmux where they should know tmux pretty well
[10:38] <justice> hello
[10:38] <jango42> hi
[10:39] <justice> whats good
[10:39] <cfhowlett> justice ask your ubuntu questions
[10:44] <Guest48378> nectarys_, I guess, what we see here in that screenshot is a byobu session (tmux'ed) with several source files in a editor (syntax highlighting), one "less" session and a "cow say". - So nothing special, i. e. nano has a switch for the kind of source to edit and the syntax higlighting to activate (nano -Y <str> => also see "man nano" for that)
[10:45] <cfhowlett> !info byobu
[10:45] <somsip> nectarys_: that's a vim color scheme so maybe ask in #vim
[10:47] <nectarys_> Guest48378, But it's not vim ? I'm just trying to get that color scheme render. That I wasn't able to find some documentation about on the net.
[10:48] <nectarys_> somsip, okay thank you very much ^^
[10:48] <k9-> How can I add repositories of boot-repair on kali linux?
[10:49] <cfhowlett> !kali|k9- sorry but kali is not supported on this channel
[10:49] <Guest48378> nectarys_, => "I guess", could be sure vim with highlighting. - I've no knowledge on syntax tweaking, sorry.
[10:49] <aurs> nectarys_: check out http://vim.spf13.com
[10:49] <geirha> nectarys_: byobu is a wrapper around tmux/screen that among other things let you set different predefined color themes
[10:50] <geirha> To get syntax highlighting in vim, edit   /etc/vim/vimrc  and uncomment the lines you see fit
[10:50] <geirha> (or copy it to ~/.vimrc and edit that instead)
[10:54] <ismael_> hola
[10:56] <andywww> Hi, i have a ruby script which is listening on a port, I’d like to make it a daemon
[10:56] <andywww> is there a defactor standard wrapper i can put it in which can be polled periodically and have the script restarted if its not running for whatever reason?
[10:57] <corotron> hla
[10:57] <corotron> hola
[10:57] <corotron> ayuda por favor
[10:57] <cfhowlett> !es|corotron
[10:57] <corotron> anda leches
[10:59] <keevitaja> hello, does anyone have working installation of wine with cups printing support installed. i'd like to see the win.ini file
[11:00] <ashley69> hello algien que sepa de linux please
[11:00] <cfhowlett> !es|ashley69
[11:04] <omi_1> hello.., currently I installed tlp to improve my battery on my laptop..,and some called tp-smapi etc, and now it won't charge.., the battery inidicator show 57% only..,but it's been a while since I plug the ac adapter..,I wonder what is the problem
[11:05] <Voyage> how to install flash player in ubuntu for browsers?
[11:05] <mexi_d3> Voyage: It's built-in to Google Chrome.
[11:06] <hateball> !flash | Voyage
[11:06] <mexi_d3> Voyage: I +think+ Flash for firefox is in the ubuntu restricted extras, however firefox flash is outdated.
[11:06] <diegolopez> Isma??
[11:06] <ashley69> hola
[11:06] <cfhowlett> !es|ashley69
[11:07] <ashley69> esta vacio
[11:07] <cfhowlett> ashley69 ENGLISH por favor
[11:07] <Mr_Quist> !nl|Mr_Quist
[11:07] <hateball> Voyage, mexi_d3: Flash through repos for Firefox is outdated yes. If you want to use Chromium rather than Chrome you can use pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[11:07] <diegolopez> In English Ashley pls....
[11:08] <ashley69> no se ingles
[11:08] <ashley69> el chat en español esta vacio
[11:08] <k1l> diegolopez: ashley69 stop that. dont spoil the support channel
[11:08] <cfhowlett> ES | ashley69
[11:08] <ashley69> y estoy en un examen
[11:08] <ashley69> y necesito ayuda
[11:08] <knob> ashley69, what you need?  I can translate
[11:08] <knob> ashley69, yo puedo traducir.
[11:08] <k1l> !es > ashley69
[11:09] <cfhowlett> ashley69 BS stop, go away, we're not here to play with you today
[11:09] <knob> oh.. troll?  =(
[11:09] <cfhowlett> knob absolutely
[11:09] <knob> ahh... oh well
[11:09] <knob> I think trolling must be as old as humanity itself
[11:09] <k1l> yes, was directed several times to the spanish channel and got several clients in here. now please focus back on support :)
[11:09] <knob> I think even older than language
[11:10] <cfhowlett> moving on ...
[11:10] <knob> Ok.  Changing the topic...   Last night I got fed up with Windows
[11:10] <knob> Bought a 240 GB ssd
[11:10] <knob> Installing 14.0.4 tonight
[11:10] <knob> main workstation
[11:11] <keevitaja> hello, does anyone have working installation of wine with cups printing support installed. i'd like to see the win.ini file
[11:13] <jango42> good on ya knob
[11:14] <knob> jango42, yeah.   I was using latest Ubuntu in a small laptop I had
[11:15] <knob> And I think it helped the migration a lot.   Yet now, now I am ready to change the workstation completely.
[11:15] <knob> Plus I want to see how I can contribute back to Ubuntu, little by little.  I am still a programming and security n00b, yet I like those topics a lot.
[11:15] <knob> Especially security.
[11:16] <jango42> yes security is interesting indeed
[11:19] <mexi_d3> knob, Even if you can't code, you can contribute by getting other people to use it or you can donate to Canonical :-)
[11:20] <Voyage> hateball,  I cant see kubuntu-restrictede-extras in repos or cache search
[11:21] <dupingping>  hi everybody.
[11:22] <knob> mexi_d3, oh yeah.  I have installed two other laptops within the last month.   Both persons have been very happy.
[11:22] <dupingping> I could not print with my printer, I'm using ubuntu12.04 4LTS.
[11:22] <knob> And I have a small website, which I am moving over to Ubuntu server.    It was a big job for me, yet I am 95% done.   I installed Ubuntu server, setup apache, mariadb, php5, and WordPress
[11:22] <knob> Not much, yet for me, it was like "Woha! I did it!"
[11:25] <hateball> Voyage: Well are you on Ubuntu or Kubuntu? Also check your spelling, it's kubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:26] <Voyage> hateball,  had ubuntu, then installed kubuntu-desktop
[11:27] <dupingping> ?
[11:27] <iraci> jester- ci sei?
[11:28] <Voyage> hateball,  k
[11:29] <hateball> Voyage: We're alive and kicking over in #kubuntu as well ;)
[11:31] <Voyage> k
[11:34] <jango42> anyone running Ubuntu on VMware whats the verdict/
[11:38] <Voyage> hateball,  E: Unable to locate package kubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:38] <Pessimist> !anyone | jango42
[11:38] <jango42> hihihi
[11:38] <hateball> Voyage: make sure you run "apt-get update" first
[11:39] <cfhowlett> Voyage you must enable multiverse repository
[11:39] <Pessimist> They removed this factoid..
[11:39] <cfhowlett> Pessimist true
[11:41] <hateball> jango42: VmWare is a company, they make many products
[11:41] <pietera> Any idea why I can't install the i386 version of libgtksourceview2.0-common on my 64-bit Trusty Tahr? The package contains no architecture dependent files...
[11:41] <jango42> yes I was refering to VMware work station 10
[11:41] <Voyage> hateball,  did that
[11:41] <Voyage> cfhowlett,  how?
[11:42] <tado> hey all. I've got a graphic problem. the mouse cursor is not aligned with the screen, which means i have to hover 1cm above a link in firefox to click it. this happens only when windows are maximised. i had been told to wait for intel's linux drivers installer, now i have installed the whole thing, but the problem persists. any ideas?
[11:42] <utopian> HI whatz the offtopic channel for #ubuntu
[11:43] <bcvery> !ot | utopian
[11:43] <cfhowlett> Voyage system > update manager > settings > ubuntu software
[11:43] <slowubuntu> hi i have a dell laptop running ubuntu 12.04 and it takes a lot of time during boot and is stuck on the purple screen for a lot of time I did 'dmesg' and could see a large gap of time but can't understand the prob can anyone please help?
[11:43] <utopian> Thankz bcvery
[11:44] <Voyage> cfhowlett,  iam on cmd
[11:44] <cfhowlett> Voyage https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[11:45] <hateball> Voyage: in a terminal, "sudo apt-get update"
[11:45] <slowubuntu> can anyone please help understanding dmesg logs?
[11:45] <hateball> !paste | slowubuntu
[11:45] <Voyage> hateball,  did that
[11:45] <Voyage> hateball,  did that, even upgraded
[11:45] <hateball> !multiverse
[11:46] <hateball> Voyage: Then enable multiverse either using GUI or editing sources.list directly, apt-get update again
[11:46] <slowubuntu> hateball: can you please help here's the dmesg log http://pastebin.com/b9ZfBm1R
[11:48] <hateball> slowubuntu: well the first pause is for running fsck, does that happen every time? It indicates unclean shutdown, or possibly a problem with your HDD
[11:49] <hateball> slowubuntu: then it appears to be stuck for a while after loading the ATI driver, but I know nothing about ATI and possible quirks
[11:56] <Kobayashi> hello
[11:57] <knob> Hey guys, n00b question.  I generated rsa keys with a passphrase in my laptop.   I use that to connect to my server.    When I log into my server, say I want to do   sudo mkdir foo/          My user's password in the server is very complicated.     Is there a way to generate a passphrase for the password server-side?
[11:57] <Armag3dd0n24> how well does ipods work with ubuntu? i got some music on my ipod that I want on ubuntu to transfer to my s3 lte. would it be hard?
[11:57] <knob> Or how do you do it?           Once you are logged in non-root as your user, how do you "jump" to root with sudo?
[11:58] <slowubuntu> hateball: by the first pause you mean when it jumps from 2 to 6 seconds?
[11:59] <Pessimist> Armag3dd0n24, Try It And See™
[11:59] <Armag3dd0n24> ugh ;p
[12:00] <Armag3dd0n24> trying now :D
[12:00] <Fritzendugan> it appears that somehow I uninstalled whatever packages are responsible for the "system preferences" in unity. I'm running Ubuntu 14. How do I get "system preferences" back?
[12:00] <basichash> where is the xterm256 dir?
[12:01] <slowubuntu> can someone please help me understandinf dmesg output as my system is too slow
[12:02] <Guest48378> knob, read about using ssh key files and configuration of the sshd daemon ("man sshd_config" / "man ssh-keygen" /set up authorized_keys) => no need for a password/passphrase => http://askubuntu.com/questions/61557/how-do-i-set-up-ssh-authentication-keys
[12:02] <Armag3dd0n24> ipod just crashed :/ ugh. guess it doesn't work with ubuntu :S
[12:03] <hateball> slowubuntu: actually didnt even notice that. ata link slow to respond is often cause for concern. I mean the part where it runs fsck. If it tells you ata link slow, and it runs fsck... then the disk is probably in bad shape. I would backup first, then run smartctl (disk utility) and check the drive for physical errors
[12:03] <knob> Guest48378, on my way.  Thank you!
[12:03] <Guest48378> knob, you're welcome.
[12:04] <slowubuntu> hateball: ok and what about the other pauses?
[12:04] <hateball> slowubuntu: well they could all be down to the disk being bad and slow to read from
[12:04] <hateball> slowubuntu: So checking that first would be what I would do
[12:05] <knob> Guest48378, Ok,  That part I did.   I generated locally my key, and ssh-copy-id over to the server.    Tested, and all good.   No need for password.   My doubt it:      When I log into the server, I am    knob@rem.ote.ser.ver              .     If I want to do  sudo mkdir foo/              in that remote server, I have to enter knob's password over in the server.
[12:05] <slowubuntu> hateball: ok
[12:05] <knob> How can I not do that?  I mean, is there a way?
[12:06] <wigirc> knob, you may disable sudo password
[12:06] <wigirc> knob, but i think it's not good
[12:06] <knob> wigirc, yes.   That is what I was also told.       What I'm thinking is changing my password to something easier to type, yet still hard.
[12:07] <yorwos> hi every1 , my software updater today is including a patch called "get hot new stuff v3 library for kde platoform" , and i read its about sharing cababilities for kde applications.  Still im using ubuntustudio 13.10 with xfce? i suppose , will i break something if i dont apply this patch ? im concerned about privacy (not that i have any problem , just in theory)
[12:07] <wigirc> knob, http://askubuntu.com/questions/192050/how-to-run-sudo-command-with-no-password
[12:08] <hateball> knob: there is also this http://superuser.com/questions/164078/how-to-make-shared-keys-ssh-authorized-keys-and-sudo-work-together scroll down a bit for the pam-module instructions
[12:08] <Guest48378> knob, this is standard behaviour, if you are a sudo-user (same as if you operate in a local shell, yes?) - The deactivation your root password/doing the ssh'ing with your root account is of no good ... ;)
[12:09] <knob> Guest48378, yes yes.. I am trying to get on-the-ball with my security and best practices.       I mean, I just started using sudo.   I previously did everything root.
[12:09] <knob> hateball, reading!
[12:10] <knob> wigirc, checking that out
[12:10] <Guest48378> knob, np.
[12:10] <wigirc> knob, knob, also i think that you don't need long password and 8 characters  will be enough
[12:10] <ron__> hello tracyone
[12:11] <tracyone> ?
[12:11] <basichash> where do .terminal theme files go?
[12:11] <wigirc> knob, it's better than disable sudo password
[12:11] <ron__> what ?
[12:11] <yorwos> knob try this, eg. if ur pwd is "beatiful" try beati123!@#ful"
[12:12] <tracyone> (08:10:47 PM) ron__:
[12:12] <tracyone> hello tracyone
[12:12] <ron__> how do you do
[12:12] <ioiooiioio> hello
[12:13] <tracyone> :-D
[12:13] <ron__> thats good
[12:15] <ron__> whats up
[12:15] <yorwos> guyz let me ask u something more "easy"
[12:15] <bazhang> !ot | ron__
[12:16] <yorwos> whats the simpolest way to backup all my linux hard drive ? (many partitions)
[12:16] <Armag3dd0n24> it works now, my lead was broke. thanks guys/girls. :p
[12:16] <tracyone> dd
[12:16] <bazhang> !sbackup | yorwos
[12:16] <yorwos> ty guyz im on it
[12:18] <yorwos> ok another one question ,this should be easier
[12:18] <yorwos> do u know any sites to post a screenshot of my desktop so others can arrange their own in this style if they like it ?
[12:18] <bazhang> imgur.com yorwos
[12:19] <yorwos> ty baz;)
[12:20] <Guest48378> yorwos, create a dropbox account and share the link to an uploaded screenshot/folder with screenshots in it (a little more private)
[12:21] <alex_> hi
[12:23] <yorwos> im using 2 panels , xfce style i think , 1in left and 1 at right , firefox n programs run inside they dont overlap ,(shortcuts on desktop r for some tests im doing atm keep it clean )u can have it almost clean , made it here -> http://imgur.com/6HzhYAQ
[12:24] <yorwos> with a bottom menu bar kind of
[12:24] <harish_> harish/freenode:SMD4HLb7fyd2gUBhIwqX
[12:25] <yorwos> if u like it , or specially if u have something to propose to me to make it even easier tell me
[12:25] <yorwos> basically ive put graphics/music programs on left bar , and general purpose programs to the right
[12:26] <starkserver> i am trying to connect whatsapp to IRC
[12:26] <starkserver> is that cool
[12:28] <jost> I've got a hard drive that I want to copy to an image file. Problem is that this hard drive is the only drive in that machine, and it is hard to add another one (its a laptop), so the image has to be written using ssh
[12:28] <ikonia> jost: just get a usb disk
[12:28] <jost> That works find using dd, but the command fails due to an I/O error (probably outside the used space)
[12:28] <ikonia> plug it in directly the machine, keep it simple and easy
[12:28] <lukrop> hey there!
[12:29] <jost> ikonia: ok, and if I don't want to afford that?
[12:29] <ikonia> jost: you can't afford that, but you can affort another machine to do it over ssh ?
[12:29] <lukrop> is there a special reason why my SATA disk is not detected as boot device after a reboot? if i boot with any liveos and mount the fs, the next reboot works flawlessly
[12:30] <jost> ikonia: yes, that other machine is already there - the USB drive would cost me 100€ or something
[12:30] <starkserver> get some technician
[12:30] <lukrop> is ubuntu doing any hdparm black magic on shutdown?
[12:30] <ikonia> lukrop: what do you mean, not detected, in what way
[12:30] <ikonia> jost: how big is the disk you want to make an image of ?
[12:30] <jost> 150GB
[12:30] <ikonia> jost: then it is not 100euros for a 150GB disk
[12:30] <jost> 1 NTFS partition, of which about 50GB are in use
[12:31] <lukrop> ikonia: the netbook won't boot.. grub doesn't appear.. UEFI recognizes the disk but asks for a valid boot device
[12:31] <ikonia> lukrop: not ubuntu then, it's the device doing that
[12:31] <lukrop> after a mount inside a live environment the next boot works flawless
[12:31] <ikonia> lukrop: sounds odd,
[12:31] <lukrop> ikonia: debian wheezy does not show this behaviour
[12:32] <nullbyte_> how can i mount raid hdd
[12:32] <ikonia> lukrop: doesn't change the fact
[12:32] <ikonia> lukrop: if it's not got to grub - ubuntu has not booted, so it's not in play yet
[12:32] <ikonia> nullbyte_: hardware or software raid
[12:32] <nullbyte_> hardware
[12:32] <ikonia> nullbyte_: what raid level ?
[12:32] <nullbyte_> it's a ntfs partition, level0
[12:33] <ikonia> nullbyte_: then you just mount the device for it
[12:33] <Guest48378> jost, I haven't done this by myself, but see => https://duckduckgo.com/?q=dd+over+ssh
[12:33] <ikonia> I advise against doing it over ssh
[12:33] <nullbyte_> ikonia: mount: Function not implemented with mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt
[12:33] <nullbyte_> or with -t ntfs
[12:34] <ikonia> nullbyte_: please show me the exact command please.
[12:34] <nullbyte_> mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt
[12:34]  * Guest48378 switched into learning mode
[12:34] <nullbyte_> returns: unction not implemented
[12:34] <nullbyte_> F
[12:34] <ikonia> nullbyte_: no sudo ?
[12:34] <nullbyte_> with sudo
[12:34] <jost> Guest48378: problem is that I can't use dd, since some sector on the disk is damaged. It has to be ddrescue or something
[12:34] <ikonia> nullbyte_: right, so I said the EXACT command
[12:34] <nullbyte_> thaths it
[12:34] <nullbyte_> before of that i run sudo su
[12:34] <Guest48378> jost, ok
[12:35] <ikonia> nullbyte_: what is the raid controller ?
[12:35] <lukrop> ikonia: are there any powersaving packages installed by default?
[12:35] <ikonia> lukrop: yes
[12:36] <lukrop> so it could be that ubuntu is setting some powersaving settings on the disk it doesnt like
[12:36] <kanthalaraghu> I'm currently using elementary os ..
[12:36] <ikonia> ,
[12:36] <ikonia> lukrop: no
[12:36] <nullbyte_> ikonia: 6 xSATA 3 Gb/s ports Support RAID 0,1,0+1,5  Intel ICH10R controller
[12:36] <ikonia> nullbyte_: is the controller on the motherboard ?
[12:36] <nullbyte_> ikonia: two HDDs
[12:36] <nullbyte_> ikonia: yes
[12:36] <ikonia> nullbyte_: then it's fake raid
[12:37] <ikonia> not a real hardware raid card
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> !elementary | kanthalaraghu
[12:38] <lukrop> ikonia: so whats /etc/hdparm.conf then?
[12:38] <ikonia> lukrop: the config file
[12:38] <lotherk_> ikonia, you're the greatest, eh?
[12:39] <ikonia> lotherk_: what do you want me to say ? you've just asked what a files is, it's the config file for hdparm ?
[12:39] <lotherk_> ikonia?
[12:39] <ikonia> oops
[12:39] <ikonia> wrong person
[12:39] <ikonia> sorry
[12:40] <ikonia> lotherk_: what are you talking about the greatest ? can I help you ?
[12:40] <lukrop> ikonia: what are the powermanagement packages installed by default? you know any?
[12:41] <lotherk_> ikonia, no. I was just reading your answers to several problems and it just came out of me, sorry.
[12:41] <bieb> I installed 14.04 server edition. We don't have ipv6 supported here at the office. I think I have turned off ipv6 via a couple help docs from the ubuntu site. I can remote to the static IP from my desktop.. and from the server I can ping IP addresses, but it will not resolve host names (ping www.cnn.com, www.yahoo.com) which also means apt-get update fails. I figure there is an issue with my hosts file, but I don't see anything odd in it. What else should I l
[12:42] <ikonia> lukrop: things like cpuscale, and obviously the apci bios interface to the power managment
[12:45] <compdoc> bieb, any idea which help docs you used to disable ipv6? the best way is to edit  sysctl.conf
[12:45] <duane> whats the best program to download for copying music onto a disc
[12:45] <bieb> compdoc: one sec I will open sysctl and tell you what I changed
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> !burn | duane
[12:46] <truexfan81> is anyone able to successfully install mate on 14.04?
[12:46] <compdoc> bieb, no, thats ok. sounds like you did it right
[12:47] <compdoc> bieb, you need to change your dns server
[12:47] <compdoc> bieb, you can ping ip addresses?
[12:47] <bieb> compdoc: yes I can ping ip
[12:48] <bieb> compdoc: the dns server is the one that we use for all systems.. and it works for my other linux box
[12:49] <compdoc> bieb, how is the dns set? do you edit /etc/network/interfaces  ?
[12:49] <bieb> compdoc: I ping 8.8.8.8 Google's public DNS and that works.. I ping server name of server on the same lan and it waits, then comes back "unknown host"
[12:50] <dino82> what is in your /etc/resolv.conf
[12:51] <bieb> compdoc: I set the IP and DNS during install
[12:52] <bieb> dino82: just "name server IPaddy"
[12:52] <compdoc> bieb, you need to find where its set - /etc/resolv.conf    or /etc/network/interfaces
[12:52] <bieb> compdoc: both files have the same DNS server
[12:52] <dino82> nslookup <name> will tell you what you are using for DNS
[12:54] <bieb> dino82: when I do nslookup servername   I get  :: connection times out; no servers could be reached
[12:55] <lukrop> ikonia: FYI disabling disk power management (apm 255 in /etc/hdparm.conf) did the trick. so ubuntu is doing hdparm stuff ;)
[12:56] <Guest48378> bieb, first check resolv.conf for correct dns ips and syntax one line = one ip "nameserver 8.8.8.8" (Google DNS 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 - OpenDNS 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220), you could add a line in interfaces at your desired iface eth<X> ... => dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4 => also think about open port 53 (DNS) and firewall
[12:56] <Renard> Hello! I have an issue with onboard audio on 14.04 x64, it's skipping/glitching every few minutes. My machine has a Realtek ALC892 chip. I tried a few things inc deactivating Pulse scheduling, to no avail. Strangely, the LiveCD works just fine on the same machine. What do?
[12:57] <Renard> Since my machine is to be used as a mediacenter quite a lot of time, it's quite critical to me
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> !sound | Renard
[12:59] <testdr> Renard: check if its only happening to audio - and not to local played video or to video like from youtube thru browser..
[12:59] <Renard> all audio
[12:59] <metalbrick> I use KDE on ubuntu, the usage of memory of Xorg  keeps increasing, and reaches like 400-500M, it this normal or there's somehow memory leak of my system ?
[13:00] <Renard> xbmc / totem / mplayer / vlc / whatever is pushed throught internal audio. BT / remote is fine.
[13:00] <metalbrick> anyone knows about that ?
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> Renard: check realteks website for latest audio drivers maybe?
[13:01] <Renard> I'm hesitant due to voices.canonical.com/david.henningsson/2012/07/13/top-five-wrong-ways-to-fix-your-audio/
[13:03] <testdr> Renard: if live-version did it fine - then it could be the update of a new kernel-version --- so the question is, did it happen after install to harddisk without any update
[13:04] <nectarys_> I'm trying to abitye myself with the linux environment (am a developper). what kind of distribution do you advice me to abitye myself with, please?
[13:04] <Renard> testdr, I don't remember it happening right after installing, but didn't pay too much attention as I was configuring the OS; I also always install updates when installing ubuntu. Good point.
[13:06] <user1345> ubuntu kylin when booted from USB (unetbootin) stops at initramfs> prompt telling /dev/loop0 cannot mount on filesystem.squashfs? any help here?
[13:06] <testdr> renard:then you should try to boot older kernels of your grub-menu -- checking if there is a difference for the older audio-drivers
[13:06] <jianghaihui> 怎么设置ubuntukylin14.04中fictx输入法使用98版码表？？
[13:07] <jianghaihui> 五笔输入法
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> !kylin | jianghaihui
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> !cn | jianghaihui
[13:07] <Renard> I purged the old kernels before realising the issue…
[13:07] <Pumpkin->  /win 51
[13:07] <Pumpkin-> asfasif
[13:09] <nectarys_> I'm trying to abitye myself with the linux environment (am a developper). what kind of distribution do you advice me to abitye myself with, please?
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> nectarys_: what kind of developement?
[13:09] <jianghaihui>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[13:10] <nectarys_> lotuspsychje,  web/mobile/desktop applications
[13:10] <lotuspsychje> nectarys_: check #ubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-touch
[13:10] <lotuspsychje> nectarys_: there are several packages you can install from ubuntu to develope those
[13:10] <nectarys_> lotuspsychje, why that cannals and not this one ?
[13:10] <testdr> Renard: i dont know anything of your system, but if its only used as a play/audiostation, then you can stick to the working live-version ... booted from an usb-stick .. or from the first install
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> nectarys_: the devel guys might point you to relevant packages
[13:11] <nectarys_> lotuspsychje, yes I know. Because I think that the only choices that I have are Debian, Ubuntu or Arch-Linux.
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> nectarys_: as you are here in #ubuntu support, we advice you install ubuntu of course
[13:12] <nectarys_> lotuspsychje, oh I see. thank you :))
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> nectarys_: there are many professional tools to develope on ubuntu
[13:13] <nectarys_> lotuspsychje, I'm using them but
[13:13] <nectarys_> lotuspsychje, I thought that there is a professional distribution dédicated to developpers and curious person
[13:13] <metalbrick> I use KDE on ubuntu, the usage of memory of Xorg  keeps increasing, and reaches like 400-500M, is this normal or there's somehow memory leak of my system ?
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> nectarys_: every Os has developers, that would be your choice...
[13:15] <nectarys_> lotuspsychje, okay, thank you :))
[13:17] <user1345> ubuntu kylin when booted from USB (unetbootin) stops at initramfs> prompt telling /dev/loop0 cannot mount on filesystem.squashfs? any help here?
[13:19] <cfhowlett> user1345 did you verify both the downloaded ISO and the USB?
[13:20] <daveyesdave> I'm looking for a way to colour code nautilus when I connect to a remote server, for example default to a red background when connected to live server etc...
[13:20] <user1345> cfhowlett: yes md5 was perfect
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> daveyesdave: maybe something usefull here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/84130/how-do-i-theme-the-nautilus-background-image
[13:22] <user1345> cfhowlett: USB was loaded with unetbootin. so that should not have any problems. it says cannot mount /dev/loop0 ( /cdrom/casper/squashfs.filesystem ) on squashfs.filesystem.
[13:22] <Axis_> Hi. Which Linux should I be getting, I don't know if I should get 32bit or 64bit?
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> Axis_: is your cpu 64bit?
[13:23] <user1345> cfhowlett: and stops giving me a initramfs> prompt.  i tried noacpi without any use.
[13:23] <Axis_> I'm currently using Windows 7, 64 bit operating system.
[13:23] <dbugger> Hey guys. Everytime I log into Ubuntu 14.04, I get 2 "System Program problem detected" messages. EVERYTIME. Could someone help me find out what the problem is, and how could I solve it?
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> Axis_: then you can install ubuntu 64bit yes
[13:23] <cfhowlett> user1345 newer machine?  windows 8?
[13:24] <Axis_> I thought 64BIT was with computers with more than 2 GB ram. I have exactly 2GB ram.
[13:24] <Renard> upgraded audio drivers, issue persists
[13:24] <user1345> cfhowlett: no i have linuxmint and fedora.
[13:24] <factotum> Axis_ then you have just enough to run 64-bit
[13:24] <Axis_> Will I get the best performance running 64 bit over 32?
[13:25] <cfhowlett> user1345 so you're multibooting ... therein lies the problem I suspect, but I can't even begin to trouble shoot this one
[13:25] <testdr> user1345: could be it looks for the wrong boot-device - this happens for example is using a different bootloader (like plop) to boot from a medium, that is not bootable by bios - with boot-manager plop, booted from a CD, its necessary to remove the CD befor starting from the usb or the system will over and over try to find the rest of it from the CD
[13:25] <daveyesdave> lotuspsychje , thanks I have seen this but I think this will change the background in every case rather than just for remove connections?
[13:25] <creyc> my mostly stock Lubuntu-Desktop install is 2.2G, Lubuntu-core from a minimal ubuntu install is 2.3G, how can it be a larger footprint??
[13:25] <voidvoid> hi
[13:26] <daveyesdave> lotuspsychje , sorry *remote connections?
[13:26] <lotuspsychje> Axis_: if your hardware is 64bit, use 64bit Os, so yes will improve
[13:26] <voidvoid> how do i display the size of multiple files with find... im doing this find / -name *sql.gz | du -h but it just display the size of the directorios im currently in
[13:26] <Axis_> Last question, Lot. I'm thinking about going with Linux Lite, or Lubuntu. Which one is better with performance (being lightweight)? Sorry if it's off topic.
[13:26] <lotuspsychje> Axis_: i run ubuntu 14.04 64bit myself, working nicely
[13:26] <user1345> testdr: its a USB having kylin  prepared on mint using unetbootin.
[13:27] <maek> voidvoid:  you can do | xargs ls -la
[13:27] <lotuspsychje> Axis_: lubuntu or xubuntu are lightweight
[13:27] <OerHeks>  Axis_  linux lite is not ubuntu.
[13:27] <maek> voidvoid: ls -lah
[13:27] <cfhowlett> Axis_ linuxlite isn't supported here.  better is subjective, but lubuntu and xubuntu are both officially creations and thus supported here
[13:27] <Axis_> Which is better between Xubuntu and Lubuntu?
[13:27] <lotuspsychje> Axis_: but with 2gig ram i think you can run ubuntu 14.04 nice also
[13:28] <lotuspsychje> Axis_: your personal choice
[13:28] <user1345> testdr: as far as BIOS boot is considered everything is fine with grub shown and then loading many drivers before stopping at initramfs. infact even Kylin desktop image comes for 2-3 seconds and then falls to cmd prompt.
[13:28] <maek> im trying to run a bash script with upstart and I need to pass the bash script an env var, for the life of me I Cant get this to work in upstart. it works from cli fine. any ideas how how to do this?
[13:28] <cfhowlett> Axis_ again "better" is subjective - depends on your use case and preferences.
[13:29] <Axis_> I'm just looking for one that doesn't use a ton of resources.
[13:29] <Axis_> I want Linux on my Laptop.
[13:29] <cfhowlett> Axis_ as previously stated: lubuntu and xubuntu are both quite light
[13:29] <Axis_> Thank you, CF.
[13:29] <maek> Axis_: you could use ubuntu 14.04 and turn off unneeded services. is xubunut still a thing?
[13:30] <testdr> user1345: are older versions working .. from grub-menu -> ... or what happens with recovery-mode
[13:31] <voidvoid> maek
[13:31] <voidvoid>  | xargs du -h its valid ??
[13:32] <maek> voidvoid: i dont know. xargs just does 'a thing' to what you pass it
[13:32] <maek> and it pipes nicely with find out put
[13:32] <user1345> testdr : recovery mode? is that available. i can remember 1.default 2.Install Kylin 3.Try Kylin 4. Memory Test
[13:32] <maek> so find | xargs foo will do foo to everything find finds.
[13:33] <testdr> user1345: sorry - you speaking about the live-version ... -- then what about boot-options like noapic and so on?
[13:33] <ice9> how to restore screen brightness after reboot automatically?
[13:33] <user1345> testdr:  yes. live version. i tried noapic but same error again.
[13:33] <testdr> user1345: and you have enough ram ..
[13:33] <user1345> testdr: ram is not an issue.i have 8 gb
[13:34] <voidvoid> maek yes it work fine find / -name *sql.gz | xargs du -h
[13:34] <voidvoid> im searching for backups in a server ...
[13:35] <TomyWork> what's the difference between nvidia-331 and nvidia-331-updates?
[13:35] <meccooll> what's the correct way to restart networking in 14.04? sudo service networking restart doesn't work anymore!?!?
[13:35] <TeraJL> is there any fix for the "move window to worskpace" shortcuts?
[13:35] <testdr> user1345: you have copied the iso to an usb-stick? usb-2.0 ... 3.0 and what hardware and works older live-version without flaw?
[13:35] <user1345> testdr: yes. others work properly
[13:37] <murosai>  does anyone know what's the proper term for processing audio so that lower sounds become louder and lower sounds become louder?
[13:38] <TomyWork> lowpass?
[13:38] <TomyWork> wikipedia it and see if it matches
[13:41] <testdr> user1345: can you run the downloaded kylin-image per qemu on another running hardware with ubuntu?
[13:41] <murosai> dynamic range compression seems to be the term
[13:41] <user1345> testdr: can i try on virtualbox?
[13:42] <testdr> user1345: is that windows? -- i dont know, i only know qemu calls
[13:42] <TomyWork> murosai oh you mean lower volume parts, not lower frequency?
[13:42] <user1345> testdr: no i am on linux. how to run on qemu?
[13:43] <testdr> user1345: it is only to test your downloaded version works in some other way... with qemu like this:
[13:43] <testdr> qemu-system-x86_64 -m 1G -cdrom Name_with_path_to_kylin_iso_image
[13:44] <murosai> TomyWork: yup
[13:44] <user1345> testdr: ok i am downloading qemu now. a few minutes and will report back.
[13:44] <cfhowlett> kylin will run in virtualbox
[13:51] <user1345> cfhowlett , testdr: yes kylin is running properly on virtualbox
[13:51] <testdr> user1345: have you alread edited the boot options -- deleted the "quiet" option to get most of the statusmessages
[13:52] <snufft> hey guys, stupid question, but I have window installed on another drive (it's not dual booted with Ubuntu, I'd have to unplug the ubuntu hdd and plug in the Windows one to make windows boot). is it possible to boot it in a vm somehow?
[13:52] <snufft> boot it as a vm**
[13:53] <user1345> testdr: yes. all those are done. the only two things which are bugging me is i plugged in usb on my usb 3.0 slot and also got unetbootin create squashfs on it. but since its wokring on virtualbox it shoudl work there also.
[13:54] <testdr> user1345: pls. try one of your usb-2.0 ports -- may sound funny, but the drivers are not the same for those usb-revisions
[13:54] <Symphonym> With 14.04 I get frequent ping spikes towards 300+ ping after which it goes back to 40-80 (like it was constantly with 13.10). Most notable when playing Counter strike on Steam, any idea what might be causing it?
[13:57] <Symphonym> Basically, every ~2 minutes I get spikes of 300 ping (ms) after which it goes back to around 40-80. Which I would see as an unstable Wi-Fi connection, this problem or these spikes did not exist with 13.10.
[14:00] <trijntje> Symphonym, what are you pinging? Try pinging the router and see if the spikes occur there as well
[14:01] <Guest48378> snuffit, you could take a full image of your external Windows drive, set up a vm in VirtualBox with a virtual hard disk of the same size and boot into a Ubuntu Live CD with this new vm. - Then mount the empty hard disk and push the Windows image onto the virtual drive. - I don't know the caveats of this procedure, but you are save and there will be no damage for your real Windows drive, if you want to try.
[14:01] <Symphonym> trijntje The ping values are just what I read from in-game in Counter strike :I But how would I go about pinging my router? I assume I'd be using the ping command, should I just pass it my local IP?
[14:02] <trijntje> Symphonym, if you know the IP adres of your router, you can just type 'ping 192.168.1.1' in a terminal to ping it
[14:02] <clone1110> which is the security room
[14:02] <trijntje> replace 192 etc with the actual IP of course
[14:04] <Symphonym> trijntje Alright, I'm pinging right now, and I see exactly the same behaviour immidiately. I got a few packets at 0.8 - 0.4 ms and then a bunch of packes came in at 250-350ms, then back to 0.4-0.8
[14:04] <Pici> clone1110: There is ##security , it is not part of the Ubuntu namespace though.
[14:04] <clone1110> thanks
[14:04] <clone1110> how to go there...
[14:05] <Pici> clone1110: /join ##security
[14:05] <clone1110> yup there
[14:06] <Symphonym> trijntje Yea, I can conform this behaviour, just got another 300+ ping spike of 10'ish packets, now back to 0.4-0.8
[14:06] <clone1110> thanks
[14:06] <trijntje> Symphonym, ok, so the problem is indeed with your wifi. Not sure how to fix that though, can you be closer to the wifi acces point?
[14:07] <Symphonym> trijntje I'm fairly close to my WiFi, roughly 5 meters. Although this behaviour seems to happen on a fairly constant basis, and to make things clear; this behaviour did not exist in 13.10.
[14:07] <user1345> testdr: started qemu . what should it do. its showing some numbers with boch bochs
[14:16] <sydney> Ok,i have been having some graphics card issues lately.I am using proprietary driver 304. If i roll back to 173,then reinstall 304,will htat fix some of my problems?
[14:18] <Guest48378> Symphonym, (constant basis = "scheduled" appearance?) I'd search the culprit with a network monitoring tool (some incoming/outgoing service like mail, "hidden" reporting/updating tools and the like). - Also I'd check my network environment for machines with a changed traffic profile (all traffic goes through one point and bandwith is shared)
[14:19] <sydney> My screen has lines when i resume from standby sometimes,and sometimes the resolution is off.
[14:19] <Symphonym> Guest48378 Now that you mention it, these spikes feel a bit too regular. Might actually be something I'm unaware of that performs some expensive internet scan, any simple monitoring tool you can recommend?
[14:20] <hebz0rl> hi im managing a large thinclient system and wanted to collect apport crash reports and was wondering what the best way would be to do so.
[14:22] <Guest48378> Symphonym, an overview => http://www.brighthub.com/computing/linux/articles/123515.aspx
[14:23] <Guest48378> Symphonym, I'd take a little time and go with WireShark.
[14:23] <Symphonym> Guest48378 I'm trying out Wireshark, will report what I find.
[14:25] <nexa3> hello
[14:25] <nexa3> how r u?
[14:25] <sydney> Hi!! Great!!
[14:25] <sydney> Anyone have anything for me to try?
[14:28] <Symphonym> Guest48378 I only seem to be able to capture traffic from bluetooth, which I doubt is the problem in this case.
[14:29] <newbee> hi
[14:30] <Guest48378> Symphonym, there is also Kismet as a dedicated WIreless Packet Sniffer (Also there is good online documentation for configuring your machine and Wireshark for wireless). - On the other hand you could use simplier methods.
[14:31] <Symphonym> Guest48378 Fair enough, but I believe I solved the issue with Wireshark not listing enough interfaces; did not run it in superuser mode
[14:31] <orbisvicis> how do I unmount without removing the device nodes
[14:32] <Guest48378> Symphonym, all good then ... ;)
[14:32] <orbisvicis> for example, usb-device/partition1 is automounted when I plug it in, but when I unmount it the respective /dev/usb-device-partition-1 block file is removed
[14:32] <orbisvicis> so I can no longer use gparted to say... resize it
[14:34] <vlt> orbisvicis: umount
[14:35] <vlt> orbisvicis: `umount /dev/usb-device-partition-1` or `umount /media/you/something`
[14:37] <orbisvicis> vlt: yes thats what I mean, after "umount /dev/usb-device-partition-1" "/dev/usb-device-partition-1" no longer exists
[14:38] <shunya_chakra> is ubuntu got different gnome?
[14:38] <ldiamond> By default ubuntu has Unity
[14:38] <nexa3> how are you all
[14:39] <ldiamond> you can install gnome, lxde, xfce, kde, openbox, etc in its place.
[14:39] <orbisvicis> shunya_chakra: slightly yes. some control panel options are different. not sure if just older version, or custom ubuntu-gnome patches. and the default app list has been ubuntified.
[14:39] <nexa3> does anybody interest in football world cup?
[14:39] <bcvery> !ot | nexa3
[14:40] <shunya_chakra> ldiamond, orbisvicis, i think last month i read .. there ubuntu gnome... and it' maintained by ... ubuntu
[14:40] <shunya_chakra> is it different from our main gnome
[14:40] <nexa3> i think it is different
[14:41] <shunya_chakra> nexa3, hm, so if i install gnome which will i get ubuntu gnome or main gnome?
[14:41] <ldiamond> shunya_chakra, mint created their own fork of gnome to look like gnome 2
[14:41] <orbisvicis> the ubuntu gnome packages are provided by ubuntu maintainers, but the ubuntu-gnome derivative isn't
[14:41] <phunyguy> shunya_chakra, depends on if you apt-get install ubuntu-gnome or gnome-shell
[14:42] <ldiamond> shunya_chakra, on ubuntu you have gnome-panel (or a new name now maybe)
[14:42] <nexa3> i don't install it yet
[14:42] <phunyguy> it is the same as installing xubuntu-desktop, or xfce4
[14:42] <phunyguy> you get ubuntu branded, or stock.
[14:42] <nexa3> but i heard that from a friend
[14:42] <Guest48378> Symphonym, even more tools for you => http://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-linux.html
[14:43] <shunya_chakra> I think it's better to stay at Unity! :) lot of desktop enviornmet
[14:44] <Symphonym> Guest48378 Thanks, although with Wireshark I'm not sure I'm seeing these spikes. All packets have a constant delta time between them :/
[14:44] <linux_> Забавно
[14:45] <linux_> Думал ирка вымерла вместе с аськой
[14:45] <vlt> !ru | linux_
[14:46] <ldiamond> Anyone else is having issues with Flash on chrome lately? It keeps crashing and makes pages display freeze when scrolling.
[14:46] <shunya_chakra> ldiamond, amazing, mint i haven't used it... I just currently shifted to ubuntu!
[14:47] <Symphonym> Guest48378 Actually I might be wrong, I forgot that the delta values are in seconds I just found a few guys taking 4 seconds to deliver, time to investigate.
[14:47] <ldiamond> shunya_chakra, ubuntu is just fine honestly. Once you get used to it, you could install the server version and install lxde only. You can then install only the browser and email client you need and leave all the ubuntu-desktop shtuff out.
[14:47] <Guest48378> Symphonym, okay, I'd use a graphical monitoring tool with a time axis, showing the peeks visualized. - Also, you could activate the firewall in such a way, that only the ports minimum needed are open for your purpose and then evaluate for 1 or 2 days?
[14:48] <skinux> How much disk space is usually used by Ubuntu out-of-the-box?
[14:48] <shunya_chakra> ldiamond, I definitly going to try that!
[14:49] <ldiamond> skinux, is that because you don't have much space available?
[14:50] <ldiamond> skinux, It really depends what version you install and what packages you install
[14:50] <ldiamond> skinux, a ubuntu desktop install should work in ~5GB
[14:50] <jango42> skinux 8gb from memory but 20 gb or more is better
[14:50] <Symphonym> Guest48378 I found a packet containing text with "Microsoft Peer Name Resolution Protocol" which are sent with pretty set intervalls, these packets take 3-4 seconds
[14:51] <mexi_d3> skinux, On my system I have 7.4GB used, and I have added a lot of stuff. When installed it was around 5.
[14:52] <Symphonym> Guest48378 Is there a chance this is actually skype?
[14:52] <mexi_d3> skinux, Ubuntu will typically create a swap file equal to the size of main memory, in addition to that.
[14:52] <Guest48378> Symphonym, yes, nothing special => https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer_Name_Resolution_Protocol
[14:52] <jango42> Aymphonym are they Arp Pakets ?
[14:53] <Symphonym> jango42 no idea, all it says is SSDP if that's of any matter.
[14:53] <jango42> Address Resolution Protocla Packets
[14:53] <Symphonym> Guest48378 I'll look up a graphical tool to see if I can get more data/info
[14:56] <jango42> Symphonym you can use the filter in wire shark to check
[14:56] <orbisvicis> exit
[14:58] <maddawg3> interestingly i was trying to use wireshark to see traffic from my server to clients
[14:58] <sagat> boa tarde
[14:58] <maddawg3> mainly i was trying to spot all the www traffic to my apache server
[14:58] <maddawg3> but it didnt pick anything up at all
[14:59] <john_doe_jr> I have a bash script that attempts to do a mkdir /path/to/dir but I keep getting asked "The directory does not exist, would you like to create it?"..since I run the script several times I don't want to be asked this…how do I prevent this from happening?
[14:59] <maddawg3> etherape on the other hand did... and even told me the bandwidth each protocol and client was using
[14:59] <sagat> alguem ai poderia  me dizer como faço para saber mais sobre esse canal ja que sou usuŕio ubuntu linux a anos e gostaria de compartilhar do meu conhecimento
[14:59] <SamwiseGamgee> What are the lightweight Linux-based operating systems like Xubuntu?  Can you name them?
[14:59] <nullPointer> #cucuk
[15:00] <SamwiseGamgee> Someone told me I should install them onto my AMD Athlon PC, because itś about ten years old and only has 511 MB of RAM
[15:00] <Cogito4816> Hey, guys.  I'm trying to find a replacement for TrueCrypt, and I've been told that LUKS / dm-crypt is the way to go for Ubuntu.  I've heard that you can make encrypted files to store data (i.e. video files, documents, etc.), but I'm not sure how to do this.  Does anyone know?  If so, can you walk me through it from the beginning?
[15:01] <Guest48378> Symphonym, for a first look, you could use iftop (no graphics) or nethogs => http://askubuntu.com/questions/2411/how-do-i-find-out-which-process-is-eating-up-my-bandwidth
[15:01] <compdoc> SamwiseGamgee, you should recycle that system and let it rest in peace
[15:01] <Cogito4816> I've already got full-disk encryption set up, but I'd like to set up encrypted files like how TrueCrypt does
[15:02] <Symphonym> Guest48378 Trying out nethogs now
[15:03] <SamwiseGamgee> Xubuntu says I need 512 MB of memory.  Are they referring to my RAM memory?
[15:03] <maddawg3> john_doe_jr what happens if you use mkdir -p to make the directory
[15:03] <seanh> Hey, I'm developing against a web service that is redirecting browsers to https://lcoalhost:8080. This should be localhost, but the service is out of my control and I can't fix it. So I've put `127.0.0.1 lcoalhost` in my /etc/hosts file and now http://lcoalhost:8080 resolves to my web app running on localhost. But https://lcoalhost:8080/ gives me an ssl_error_rx_record_too_long error in Firefox. Any idea if I can get round this?
[15:03] <maddawg3> that tells it to make the parent directory in the command
[15:04] <john_doe_jr> maddawg: it continues to ask me
[15:04] <Cogito4816> Anybody
[15:04] <maddawg3> seanh that sounds like a reverse proxy
[15:05] <bcvery> !patience | Cogito4816
[15:05] <maddawg3> the apache server is doing a reverse proxy to a service running on port 8080
[15:05] <john_doe_jr> maddawg: I'm calling it as a variable in bash … mkdir $LOCATION  ….I run it and it asks me
[15:05] <maddawg3> but is the command you are running including -p?
[15:06] <john_doe_jr> maddawg: I've tried both
[15:08] <maddawg3> john_doe_jr: interesting.. not sure why... i know when i run it manually it doesnt say that
[15:08] <maddawg3> like without being in a script
[15:08] <john_doe_jr> maddawg: same thing….from the command line it's fine
[15:09] <Macer> i have an amd a10 on an msi board and when the system is asleep for a while the networking and bt devices die until reboot
[15:09] <nashant> Hey. I've just installed server 14.04 and it gets part way through booting and then the console hangs (init: plymouth-upstart-bridge main process ended, respawning). But SSH still works. I've tried adding noplymouth to grub defaults but no joy. Any ideas?
[15:09] <Macer> anybody have any experience with this?
[15:09] <Macer> nashant: are you sure it hung? press enter and see if it goes to login
[15:09] <nashant> Macer: Nope. hung
[15:10] <Macer> i think i get a similar warning when i start my ubuntu server up.. there is an #ubuntu-server channel tho
[15:10] <Macer> maybe they might be able to help more
[15:10] <nashant> I'll give it a go, cheers
[15:10] <Macer> sorry. but i know i had something similar. but my console didn't hang completely
[15:11] <Fritzendugan> question: when a proprietary driver is listed in "additional drivers" as "(proprietary, tested)" does this mean that specific driver was tested with my specific detected graphics hardware? Or just that the driver was tested with Ubuntu on some arbitrary hardware?
[15:12] <holstein> Fritzendugan: just "tested".. you cant expect testers to have tested with your specific graphics hardware..
[15:13] <Macer> hm. i have to find out what is going on with this coming out of suspend
[15:13] <Symphonym> Guest48378 Neither iftop or nethogs made me any wiser on the issue :/ I'll try to find something with a solid GUI graph, should hopefully be visible there
[15:13] <Fritzendugan> holstein, I mean, there are only so many NVIDIA GPUs, and a couple are used more commonly than others, I don't think it's that unrealistic of a question. Anyway, so "tested" is just some ambiguous identifier that means "tested at some point on some hardware?"
[15:13] <Macer> the onboard networking and bluetooth just don't come back up
[15:13] <Macer> it's odd
[15:13] <Macer> i have to reboot for them to work again
[15:13] <Macer> :/
[15:14] <Macer> which defeats the purpose of suspending
[15:14] <maddawg3> is 14.04 LTS yet?
[15:14] <holstein> Fritzendugan: could mean, not tested on hardware at all
[15:15] <maddawg3> i only use the latest LTS version on my servers
[15:15] <maddawg3> unless it's just for testing
[15:15] <holstein> Fritzendugan: the code comes "as-is", from nvidia.. could be it was tested to build against the kernel, and not tested in any way with hardware at all
[15:15] <maddawg3> but np production servers have anything other than lts
[15:15] <holstein> maddawg3: 14.04 was always a long term support.. LTS
[15:15] <mexi_d3> maddawg3, It is an LTS but the .1 isn't out, so I do not think Precise will upgrade without -d
[15:15] <holstein> !14.04
[15:16] <maddawg3> ah
[15:16] <Fritzendugan> holstein, I see. So what's the deal with all the drivers that don't say tested? They weren't tested at all? Seems kind of hard to believe
[15:16] <maddawg3> i did not know that
[15:16] <maddawg3> i'm still on 12.04
[15:16] <nashant> Macer: for future reference, nomodeset issue
[15:16] <mexi_d3> maddawg3, And Precise 12.04 is showing no upgrade?
[15:16] <maddawg3> beats me... didnt try
[15:16] <holstein> Fritzendugan: what drivers are listed "untested" ?
[15:16] <maddawg3> lol i dont do auto updates
[15:17] <holstein> maddawg3: 12.04 will be naturally offered the upgrade at the 14.04.1 release
[15:17] <mexi_d3> maddawg3, If you have LTS turned on, it won't show updates until July or so when SRU #1 arrives.
[15:17] <Fritzendugan> holstein, none are specifically listed "untested" but there are a couple, mostly legacy, which don't have the "tested" identifier. They simply say "(proprietary)"
[15:17] <Fritzendugan> only one driver actually says tested
[15:17] <holstein> Fritzendugan: legacy is just that.. legacy.. for older hardware
[15:17] <maddawg3> cool.. well i dont plan to upgrade my servers to it
[15:17] <maddawg3> might do my desktop build tho
[15:17] <holstein> maddawg3: you can
[15:18] <Fritzendugan> holstein, yes, I understand that. Maybe I'm not being clear: my question is what decides which drivers get listed as "tested" and which don't.
[15:18] <maddawg3> i will eventually upgrade the servers but i always test it first because i cant afford to have my servers go down on me
[15:18] <holstein> Fritzendugan: there should be none, as you say, that are marked "untested"
[15:18] <mexi_d3> maddawg3, I see zero reason to upgrade a server so long as precise is performing adequately and is still supported/
[15:19] <maddawg3> mexi_d3 sometimes for security patches
[15:19] <maddawg3> granted for the most part you can get those with older versions
[15:19] <holstein> maddawg3: 12.04 gets security patches, so not
[15:19] <Fritzendugan> holstein, Like I said, none are specifically marked "untested." However, only one driver is explicitly marked as "(proprietary, tested)" the rest just say "(proprietary)"
[15:19] <maddawg3> yes holstein hence why i wont upgrade yet
[15:19] <holstein> maddawg3: the reason would be, for the newer version.. 14.04.. not security patches
[15:19] <Fritzendugan> holstein, my question is what's the difference
[15:20] <holstein> Fritzendugan: i usually just try them, and see what works best for my hardware.. they just come in as is
[15:20] <maddawg3> but EVENTUALLY i bet upgrading will be either beneficial in some way or not
[15:20] <maddawg3> rather it will be beneficial or required i meant to say
[15:20] <holstein> maddawg3: it will be when 12.04 stops providing security updates, and you want them.. or you want the newer version
[15:20] <Fritzendugan> holstein, what kind of metrics do you use for deciding which is best? I don't seem to notice much of a difference between them.
[15:20] <maddawg3> yes
[15:20] <maddawg3> pricesly
[15:21] <holstein> Fritzendugan: i literally load them up, and see for myself, on my hardware.. we are typically not promised any level of linux support for those, so, basically, i try and do what a company would do for windows
[15:22] <holstein> Fritzendugan: you would pay dell to do the research and provide you with the "best" driver for windows.. you are basically taking that reponsibility on yourself to run linux, or any operating system the company doesnt specificially support.. it can be a challenge
[15:22] <maddawg3>  i just got a really sweet dedicated server for pretty cheap money
[15:22] <maddawg3> running vmware esxi on it with 2 instances of ubuntu and 3 of windows
[15:23] <Fritzendugan> holstein, so what kinds of things do you do when you're trying to test the driver? I don't really notice a difference. Are there any benchmarks or anything I can run?
[15:23] <maddawg3> wish it offered more than 4TB of storage tho
[15:23] <holstein> Fritzendugan: sure.. but, i usually just use it, and see
[15:23] <holstein> Fritzendugan: if i want to game, i test a game.. if i want power management, i test that..
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> maddawg3: add a new controller
[15:24] <maddawg3> ActionParsnip what?
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> maddawg3: if you want more staorage, add a new storage controller
[15:25] <maddawg3> it's a server i rent
[15:25] <maddawg3> i'm talking about a dedi... we arent given physical access to it
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> maddawg3: oh, I thought you owned it
[15:25] <maddawg3> no
[15:25] <maddawg3> unfortunately
[15:25] <maddawg3> i am trying to find a colo that can give me some rack space for cheap money
[15:25] <holstein> maddawg3: then, move to one that offers more
[15:26] <maddawg3> holstein havent found one at an affordable cost
[15:26] <maddawg3> i pay $52 for what i have
[15:26] <maddawg3> 4TB, Intel XEON 3.4Ghz 4c/8t
[15:26] <OerHeks> pay more get more, law of pay ... errr, law of more
[15:26] <maddawg3> 32GB of RAM
[15:26] <maddawg3> yes but the difference is astronomical
[15:26] <maddawg3> like we're talking for 8TB over $200 a month
[15:27] <holstein> maddawg3: "affordable" will be a matter of opinion.. if you need more, get it.. if you dont.. dont..
[15:27] <maddawg3> that's a big jump t
[15:27] <Fritzendugan> maddawg3, $52 a month?
[15:27] <maddawg3> ummmm... duh
[15:27] <maddawg3> holstein that is generally how it works
[15:27] <maddawg3> hence why i dont have more
[15:27] <holstein> maddawg3: please use the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for chat.. thanks
[15:27] <maddawg3> all i was saying was that i wish the dedi i got OFFERED more.. I'd gladly pay more if they offered more
[15:28] <maddawg3> other than that they are great
[15:28] <Fritzendugan> maddawg3, not sure why it's necessary for you to say duh, but thanks. What provider are you using?
[15:28] <skinux> Well, I installed Trusty Trahr onto a 30G partition, but out-of-the-box it seems to take up 20G.
[15:28] <maddawg3> that was not directed to you fritzendugan
[15:28] <maddawg3> sorry
[15:28] <mexi_d3> skinux, What does "df -h" say in terminal?
[15:28] <Fritzendugan> maddawg3, it's cool. "dendi" is that who you're using?
[15:28] <maddawg3> it just came in after your message... I use SoYouStart (It's an OVH company)
[15:29] <Fritzendugan> maddawg3, "SoYouStart" ok thanks, gonna check them out
[15:30] <whoever> hi all, I am currently booding with a machanical drive, if I swich to ssd will I still notice a speed increase (the drive would only hold the OS)  and file storage is on a machanical drive ?
[15:30] <maddawg3> whoever, yes
[15:31] <Fritzendugan> Looks like most of their offerings are currently sold out :( Still, that's not bad for the hardware you're getting
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> whoever: yes, the seek time is near zero as opposed to a platter based drive
[15:31] <orbisvicis> how do I update grub so that os-prober is run ?
[15:32] <maddawg3> yea what ActionParsnip said...
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> orbisvicis: sudo update-grub
[15:32] <orbisvicis> (update-grub... didn't run os prober, i think)
[15:32] <maddawg3> i just upgraded my laptop to an SSD and then kept my 1TB sata as a secondary internal drive
[15:33] <maddawg3> they now have a 4TB SSD
[15:33] <maddawg3> but way to expensive
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> whoever: after a while, the disk cache in RAM will be setup and you'll probably find it runs at only slightly faster than the platter based drive. Depends how much RAM you have really
[15:33] <maddawg3> that and also the speed of the port
[15:33] <maddawg3> sata for example is 3 or 6gb/s
[15:33] <maddawg3> depending on what speed you have for that
[15:34] <Fritzendugan> whoever, everything won't be instant, but compared to hdds, you'll notice significant improvements in boot-up times and application load times (if the apps are on your ssd). Managing directories/mount-points can be slightly more complicated, and also, if you're like me, you'll get addicted to the load times and soon you'll want all your software on your ssd, and it can fill up fast, depending on how large an SSD you get.
[15:34] <Fritzendugan> especially if you game
[15:35] <whoever> Fritzendugan: 125GB ssd, so it would definetly be able to hold the OS and apps
[15:36] <whoever> ActionParsnip: 8GB ram, my system I realy have to try to use more then 4GB at a time
[15:36] <Fritzendugan> whoever, definitely hold the OS, and definitely hold all your apps, as long as you don't install a lot of games. If you have a large steam library and lots of games, for instance, you will definitely fill that up.
[15:37] <whoever> Fritzendugan: I am not a hard core gamer, i do mostly programming
[15:37] <Fritzendugan> whoever, you can always install some games on your hard-drive if you start filling up too fast though, so no worries really
[15:37] <Fritzendugan> whoever, then yeah I'm sure you'll be fine. You'll definitely notice significant performance improvements
[15:38] <whoever> Fritzendugan: so i am currently booting with 7200RPM with 16MB cach drive, =
[15:38] <Fritzendugan> whoever, I don't know if you use eclipse, but the first time I booted up eclipse on my ssd I was just like "wow, who knew eclipse could be this fast"
[15:39] <whoever> Fritzendugan: is this one of those things that really can't be explaind, and you have to get one and try it out ?
[15:39] <whoever> Fritzendugan: no i use IDEA
[15:39] <Fritzendugan> whoever, kind of. I mean basically your OS will load faster and your programs will start up faster. That's the gist
[15:39] <orbisvicis> ActionParsnip: hmm running os-prober doesn't recognize the new linux partition I've created (just containing vmlinuz, initrd, and squashfs file). Also doesn't recognize the current ubuntu partition, so it appears broken ?
[15:41] <whoever> Fritzendugan: you wanna load intelij IDEA and oooh and aw .. its faster then eclips
[15:41] <Symphonym> Guest48378 I can't manage to find the issue, the spikes doesn't really show in other monitoring program it's only clearly visible in the ping command
[15:41] <Fritzendugan> whoever, the way I set up my partitions/mounts: / and swap are on my SSD, and /home is on my hdd. There might be better ways, and there is some debate as to the utility of specifying a swap partition when you have lots of RAM. Others might be able to give you different/better advice on how to set up your partitions/mount-points
[15:41] <Fritzendugan> whoever, haha nah, I rarely use eclipse anyway. I mostly just use sublime and command-line tools. I use eclipse in the rare event I'm doing some java development.
[15:43] <whoever> Fritzendugan: ok, now do i need to do any bios setting so that i can use the ssd
[15:43] <whoever> Fritzendugan: what is the trim that I have seen so many talk about
[15:43] <rkdemon> Does anyone know where to get libssh2 for ubuntu trusty ?
[15:43] <OerHeks> !trim
[15:44] <Lax> Is there a tool on the live CD that will let me check the health/state of a SSD drive?  My 14.04 install had a crash and now it will not boot with the message of "BOOT DISK FAILURE", and the reinstall is also failing.  Its a new SSD (<2months old) but Im wondering if it failed?
[15:44] <OerHeks> !find libssh2
[15:44] <Fritzendugan> whoever, trim is basically some fancy firmware stuff that helps the SSD more optimally run, basically. You can read about it on wikipedia if you want more info. TRIM support is pretty much ubiquitous at this point, so not much to worry about.
[15:44] <Fritzendugan> whoever, as for bios settings, it depends on your set-up. I didn't have to change anything in my bios
[15:45] <natewalck> Morning
[15:45] <natewalck> Anyone here use ZFS on Ubuntu
[15:45] <whoever> Fritzendugan: oh, because a few years back most seemed to have to make setting changes just to use it, so now its though it in your box and image
[15:47] <Fritzendugan> whoever, yeah, early days of ssds and raid and sata and all that jazz could get messy with the bios. If it's a decently new mainboard (~3 years or so) everything should be pretty much setup already or automatic. There are tons of guides online though if you hit any snares, so I wouldn't worry about it. Since SSDs are so mainstream now, any trouble you run into somebody likely already hit the same roadblocks
[15:50] <whoever> Fritzendugan: ok, my last main concern if drive failure, hdd that is set up for boot will fail just out of warrenty
[15:51] <natewalck> Also, is it safe to install ubuntu to a USB drive
[15:51] <natewalck> and run it from there?
[15:51] <natewalck> or will the read/writes kill the drive
[15:52] <Nach0z> natewalck: strictly speaking it'll work. if you get a high-quality flash drive it'd probably last a long time
[15:52] <natewalck> Nach0z: Is there an appliance-mode type of install?
[15:52] <Nach0z> might be worth looking into portable XHDDs though
[15:52] <natewalck> where it loads everything into memory upon boot to reduce writes
[15:52] <Nach0z> I really dunno, sorry. Last I checked though, it does load a lot of stuff into memory but Ubuntu really doesn't write that much stuff to disk on its own IIRC
[15:53] <natewalck> no worries
[15:53] <natewalck> and if that is the case
[15:53] <natewalck> that should work out just fine
[15:53] <natewalck> I plan on having all the config in puppet, so even if the USB drive blows up, it will be trivial to replace
[15:54] <Macer> ugh
[15:54] <Macer> why must msi force you to use a windows app to update the bios?
[15:54] <Macer> seriously
[15:54]  * Macer is trying to find a way to do this without windows but there doesn't seem to be one
[15:54]  * Macer facepalms
[15:54] <Macer> maybe i can install win7 onto a thumb drive for moments like this
[15:55] <OerHeks> Macer,  does the bios not give you ma update tool from usb?
[15:55] <Macer> it does.. but msi doesn't give you an update img
[15:55] <Macer> their site has a .exe that you're supposed to run in windows
[15:56] <Macer> and i can't seem to find a way to download just the img to flash it from a thumb drive :/
[15:56] <Macer> it's insanity
[15:56] <orbisvicis> had to run "mkdir -p ./lib/ld.so.conf.d/" to get os-prober to recognize it as a linux partition
[15:56] <Macer> http://www.msi.com/support/mb/FM2A75IAE53.html#down-bios <- that's my motherboard
[15:57] <OerHeks> Macer, maybe freedos is a solution
[15:57] <whoever> Fritzendugan: so i guess my question is longevity releability
[15:57] <slah> hello everybody
[15:57] <holstein> Macer: you can try any update tools in wine, but, i would do what the manufacturer suggests.. or, what most folks suggest, which is, dont mess with the bios unless mandatory
[15:58] <Macer> holstein: well i think it is. there seems to be a bug with the onboad networking on this boad
[15:58] <Macer> board
[15:58] <holstein> Macer: nothing about ubuntu or linux is preventing them from providing you a way to update your bios, though, there is little we are allowed to do to facilitate that
[15:58] <Macer> i had issues in windows as well.. where the networking (eth and wifi) and bt would just die
[15:58] <Macer> holstein: yeah.. .it's MSI's fault :/
[15:58] <Macer> they just want to make sure the catlle don't send their motherboards back heh
[15:58] <Macer> cattle
[15:59] <holstein> Macer: its actually no one's "fault".. you are just trying to do something contrary to the directions
[15:59] <Macer> holstein: update the bios outside of windows? ;)
[15:59] <holstein> Macer: they never promised you could do so
[15:59] <Macer> holstein: in my experience MSI always provided img files to update the bios. don't know what changed.
[15:59]  * Macer points above to people mis-flashing their bios
[16:00] <Macer> ah well. i'll just make a windows 7 thumb drive that boots if i can heh
[16:00] <Macer> seems like the easiest solution for problems like these
[16:00] <holstein> Macer: nothing about ubuntu will prevent that.. but, you will want to check with the creators of windows for restrictions
[16:00] <Fritzendugan> whoever, It really depends. I'd always recommend keeping multiple backups of important data. Obviously you should be using version control already for any code you're working on (maybe backed up to github or bitbucket or something). As for documents something like Google Drive or Dropbox might be good. For movies/music/etc. a networked storage device or an external hard drive might be helpful.
[16:01] <holstein> Macer: we are not sure that this addresses the issue anyways.. you are assuming a bios upgrade is a "fix"..
[16:01] <mexi_d3> I'm trying to login to help.ubuntu.com to fix something on the ubuntu help wiki, and it appears the site is having problems. Am I the only one?
[16:02] <Fritzendugan> whoever, as for the question of which will last longer, an SSD or a HDD that also depends. The "less full" the SSD is, the more it can wear-level itself, and the longer it will last. So, put simply, larger SSDs will last longer. I've read online of people using SSDs and they fail after a few months. Personally, I have an SSD I've been using for more than 2 years with no issues at all. It just depends.
[16:02] <jango42> mexi_d3 it was hacked a while back dont know the current status
[16:02] <holstein> mexi_d3: seems like, yes, you are the only one.. http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/help.ubuntu.com
[16:02] <whoever> Fritzendugan: have you used the crucial mx100
[16:03] <Macer> holstein: i would say it is. the bios is outdated and has another awesome bug where you press esc to save and it crashes :)
[16:03] <Macer> my other system has the same motherboard but bought later
[16:03] <Fritzendugan> whoever, I have not. I'm using an intel drive, and my friends have used OCZ and Samsung. I've heard good things about the newer Crucial drives, though. Pro-tip, regardless of where you're buying hardware, do a product search on Newegg and read the reviews. They're usually very good.
[16:03] <Macer> and it doesn't have the networking issue
[16:03] <whoever> Fritzendugan: ah so in tems of longevity it is still a crap shoot
[16:04] <Macer> holstein: plus it's just a bios update. no harm no foul. best to eliminate it as a possibility regardless
[16:04] <Fritzendugan> whoever, I wouldn't say it's a "crap shoot." exactly. Some HDDs can last a very long time, some do not. Some SSDs last a very long time, some do not. Hopefully my SSD will keep kicking for many years! But time will tell.
[16:04] <whoever> Fritzendugan: i have checked in #hardware and  crucial mx100 seems to bee one of the better ones
[16:05] <mexi_d3> If a page on ubuntu wiki is listed as immutable but requires updating, who do I contact?
[16:05] <whoever> Fritzendugan: are there any warning signs of ssd failure  or will it just die
[16:05] <Fritzendugan> whoever, I will say in something like a laptop that might be accidentally dropped or shaken a lot, a SSD will likely do better than a HDD, the latter has moving parts that might not do well with the physical shock.
[16:06] <mexi_d3> whoever, I recommend over-provisioning if you are worried about that.
[16:07] <Simpson_2> which part of 'service' controls the screen output which shows [fail] or [OK] ? I'm trying to write a script for a service
[16:07] <Fritzendugan> whoever, as for warning signs, I'm not sure. I've never experienced a bad SSD, myself.
[16:07] <whoever> mexi_d3: i am asking all these questions because i do have a working hdd now, and if i do decide to get an ssd, are there  any warning signs of failure
[16:08] <llutz> whoever: you may ask in #hardware, this is ubuntu-support
[16:08] <holstein> Macer: typically, there actually *can* be harm and foul, which is why most agree to not update the bios unless mandatory
[16:09] <Macer> holstein: heh. understood.
[16:09] <holstein> whoever: *all* hard drives fail.. you should always plan and expect them all to fail, as they will, and have good backups.. not matter what technology
[16:09] <Guest48378> Symphonym, sorry for being late. - I'm out of ideas. - You could isolate your machine and your router as the only members in your lan (i. e. no Android smart phone etc.) and/or also switch off the wireless network. - Then restart the router and the machine and use a wired connection to test the pings/playing experience?
[16:12] <Trudko> Guys I would like to automate building of atom https://github.com/atom/atom/blob/master/docs/build-instructions/linux.md lets say I would like to have new version of Atom everytime I start ubuntu what is best way to do that?
[16:12] <Trudko> simple shell script might be enough right?
[16:13] <drex> how do i specify an alternate location to /var/crash for dump files created by linux-crashdump ?
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> Trudko: I'd say so, yes
[16:14] <holstein> Trudko: you could get it in upstream debian, which would feed ubuntu packages, and come in in normal updates when the packages are in.. you could put them in ubuntu. you could personally create and maintain a PPA.. you could script something manually, though, i would want to know what breakages could happen
[16:14] <drex> on centos, you can specify in /etc/kdump.conf , but it doesn't exist on ubuntu
[16:14] <Volontari> ciao
[16:14] <Volontari> !list
[16:14] <Trudko> holstein: what is the easiest way?
[16:15] <holstein> Trudko: "easy" will be a matter of opinion, and use case.. if whatever you are pulling from breaks in the script, you may prefer a PPA, though, maintaining that one's self may not be preferred..
[16:16] <Trudko> holstein: well i dont mind if what i donwload from github would be broken
[16:16] <holstein> i think it would be easy if it were upstream and just updating the system updated the package.. but, that would also take some work
[16:17] <Trudko> I will ask on #atom too maybe there got some recomendation too
[16:19] <setuid> I have a directory ~/.shotwell/thumbs/thumbs360/ that is absolutely empty (verified with 'ls -lart' from root), and I can't remove it, because Linux claims it's not empty
[16:19] <maek> is it possible to make 1 upstart service start another and/or depend on it?
[16:20] <holstein> setuid: you should be able to carefully sudo remove it with a command, regardless of what it has in it
[16:20] <setuid> holstein, Nope, no can do... tried sudo. I can mv it to another name/place on the same filesystem, but can't move it to /tmp/ nor remove it.
[16:20] <setuid> it's 100% empty, du -bsc verifies this
[16:20] <holstein> setuid: give the entire output..
[16:20] <setuid> there's no hidden files, nothing at all in it
[16:20] <holstein> !paste | setuid
[16:21] <setuid> Can't paste, apparently my clipboard is non-functional
[16:21] <setuid> I'll manually type it all out
[16:22] <holstein> setuid: http://askubuntu.com/questions/217893/how-to-delete-a-non-empty-directory-in-terminal explains.. there is a command that you need to be careful with that can remove it
[16:22] <holstein> setuid: i suggest reading the entire post, which explains the issue, and potential danger
[16:23] <setuid> holstein, I've been using Linux since the late 90's, I'm very used to deleting directories, empty and otherwise, this one has me stumped.
[16:23] <holstein> setuid: what is the *exact* command you are using? friend?
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> setuid: is the filesystem mounted readonly?
[16:23] <setuid> I'm thinking some low-level XFS + encrypted $HOME corruption of some sort
[16:23] <setuid> like a dirent is broken
[16:24] <setuid> ActionParsnip, Nope, I can create and delete files IN that directory, just can't remove the dir itself
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> setuid: sudo rm -r ~/.shotwell/thumbs/thumbs360       is the command you need
[16:24] <setuid> ActionParsnip, Yep, run that and dozens of other commands to try to figure it out, remove it, none work
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> setuid: who is the owner of the folder?
[16:24] <setuid> all report the dir is non-empty
[16:24] <setuid> ActionParsnip, I own it, 'setuid'
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> setuid: owner and group owner
[16:24] <sysmon> that's the exact output?
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> setuid: can you chown it to nobody:nobody ?
[16:25] <llutz> setuid: check lsattr
[16:25] <sysmon> have you check the attributes?
[16:25] <setuid> Yep and yep, I can do everything to it, but remove it
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> llutz: nice
[16:25] <setuid> attrs are fine, facl, chattr are all correct
[16:25] <holstein> setuid: what is the exact error from the command ActionParsnip gave?
[16:25] <sysmon> whats the exact error again?
[16:26] <setuid> holstein, I can't paste, so let me manually type that in: One sec
[16:26] <holstein> !pastebinit
[16:26] <setuid> holstein, I can't PASTE, not into xchat, not into a browser. Ubuntu's clipboard is broken.
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> setuid: try:    sudo chattr -i ~/.shotwell/thumbs/thumbs360
[16:26] <setuid> So let me type this all in by hand
[16:26] <setuid> ActionParsnip, Been there, done that, doesn't help
[16:26] <holstein> setuid: ok.. !pastebinit explains how to share that information *without* being able to paste
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> setuid: if you chown to nobody:nobody    can it be deleted then? does the chown stick?
[16:27] <holstein> setuid: if many system resources are broken, you could have a failing hard drive
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> setuid: what file system is the folder on?
[16:27] <sysmon> just type the exact error.
[16:27] <setuid> ActionParsnip, Nope, chown + rm -rvf does not wrok
[16:27] <setuid> holstein, ~5 month old SSD drive, likely not broken
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> setuid: what file system is the folder on?
[16:27] <holstein> setuid: *all* drives fail
[16:28] <setuid> $ sudo rm -rfv /home/setuid/.shotwell/thumbs/thumbs360
[16:28] <setuid> rm: cannot remove directory '/home/setuid/.shotwell/thumbs/thumbs360': Directory not empty
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> setuid: never had a DOA drive?
[16:28] <setuid> ActionParsnip, many times
[16:28] <llutz> setuid: umount, fsck
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> setuid: then it being new is irrelevant then, isnt it
[16:29] <setuid> llutz, /home is ecryptfs
[16:29] <setuid> so how do I decrypt (as root) and fsck that?
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> setuid: tried rmdir  instead of rm ?
[16:30] <drex> anyone know where to configure an alternate location for kernel crash dumps besides /var/crash ?
[16:30] <setuid> /dev/mapper/sda3_crypt on / type xfs (rw,noatime,discard)
[16:30] <setuid> ActionParsnip, Yes
[16:30] <llutz> drex: /etc/default/kdump* maybe?
[16:30] <setuid> I'll try a reboot and xfs_repair on this
[16:30] <setuid> back shortly
[16:32] <jmadero> anyone around using Gnome on top of Ubuntu?
[16:33] <xangua> !ask | jmadero
[16:33] <pavlos> jmadero, running 12.04 with classic gnome
[16:33] <jmadero> yes - apologies :) anyone know how to turn off the crappy screenlock in Gnome3 - for me in settings -> privacy it's grayed out
[16:33] <jmadero> so I can't turn it off
[16:34] <jmadero> I like to conserve energy but having to type my long password every 60 seconds becomes irritating
[16:35] <drex> llutz: that doesn't exist and i cant find a man page about it
[16:36] <llutz> !info kdump-tools | drex:
[16:37] <llutz> drex: that seems to be needed. KDUMP_COREDIR="/yourpath/"   sets the new location then (iirc)
[16:37] <drex> ah, thanks
[16:37] <drex> ill try installing that
[16:37] <drex> i just grabbed linux-crashdump only initially
[16:39] <drex> llutz: package doesn't exist in the Lucid repo =[
[16:39] <wilee-nilee> jmadero, I just came on the channel, curious why your having to use the password every 60 seconds.
[16:40] <wilee-nilee> on to*
[16:40] <jmadero> wilee-nilee: I like my monitor turning off after 60 seconds to conserve energy but the stupid gnome lock screen keeps coming on
[16:40] <jmadero> and I can't turn it off through settings -> privacy (it's locked out)
[16:40] <wilee-nilee> jmadero,  Tis 12.04
[16:40] <wilee-nilee> this*
[16:40] <jmadero> 14.04
[16:40] <keevitaja> hello, does anyone have working installation of wine with cups printing support installed. i'd like to see the win.ini file
[16:41] <wilee-nilee> jmadero, Go to the power setting and set the screen to a higher time.
[16:41] <jmadero> wilee-nilee: the point is I want the monitor off after 1 minute
[16:41] <jmadero> I just don't want the lock screen on
[16:42] <dreamon> hey. want to buy a new notebook with HD 8750M graphic chip. anybody know that it works?
[16:42] <wilee-nilee> jmadero, you can turn that off, THAT IS THE POINT.
[16:42] <jmadero> hm - or I can leave Gnome if something so simple is broken ;)
[16:42] <sydney> jmadero: isnt that under brightness and lock?
[16:42] <jmadero> Unity works fine
[16:42] <phunyguy> dreamon, AMD graphics?
[16:42] <jmadero> sydney: it's under privacy, but it's grayed out
[16:42] <jmadero> and the gnome people just sent me here saying they don't deal with Ubuntu
[16:42] <jmadero> lol
[16:42] <dreamon> phunyguy, yes
[16:43] <phunyguy> dreamon, do you need powerful graphics?
[16:43] <jmadero> being able to disable a lock screen requiring a password is pretty basic functionality :-/
[16:43] <dreamon> phunyguy, Sometime I would like to blender. but if it work in later days it wont mind
[16:44] <wilee-nilee> jmadero, your attitude and  gets you a free ignore, you are complaining like a kindergartner, GROW UP and take some responsibility.
[16:44] <jmadero> wilee-nilee: okay, your suggestion outside of wasting energy
[16:44] <phunyguy> dreamon, personally, I would avoid ATI/Nvidia in Linux, as it is very hit and miss with them working correctly, and even then it is not 100%
[16:44] <sydney> jmadero: is there a brightness and lock setting in the main settings pannel?
[16:45] <jmadero> sydney: one minute will check
[16:45] <jmadero> sydney: no there's not - I have "power" where I can control the time out time (which is what wilee-nilee wants me to do) and then there is privacy where in theory I should be able to disable the screenlock
[16:45] <jmadero> but the settings in privacy are all grayed out
[16:45] <dreamon> phunyguy, what is left, if you dont use ATI or Nvidia? Intel ?
[16:46] <sydney> jmadero: thats weird!?
[16:46] <jmadero> lol I know ;)
[16:46] <jmadero> and obviously not right
[16:46] <phunyguy> dreamon, yes, Intel, which has been very good for me.
[16:46] <sydney> jmadero: I am running gnome 12.04 though.
[16:46] <jmadero> sydney: and you're running Gnome Classic right?
[16:46] <jmadero> maybe it's a bug with Gnome3
[16:46] <sydney> jmadero: No
[16:47] <phunyguy> dreamon, granted I don't do anything super intense with graphics, but I would say it is worth it if you really need it, just don't count on it being perfect.
[16:47] <jmadero> was surprised that the gnome people just sent me away when I said I run Ubuntu
[16:47] <jmadero> the response was "go figures, go find a Ubuntu channel"
[16:47] <dreamon> phunyguy, hmm.. all this new nvidias using hybrid/bumblee, where you can switch back to intel i think
[16:47] <jmadero> tried running system settings as sudo - with that I don't even see the privacy options any longer
[16:47] <sydney> jmadero: I dont know hat version of ubunt ugnome i am running though?
[16:47] <jmadero> sydney: do you use gnome shell?
[16:47] <jmadero> the "new" gnome
[16:48] <sydney> jmadero: yes
[16:48] <phunyguy> dreamon, yes that is another option but I don't know how Linux reacts in a hybrid situation like that, perhaps someone else can speak to that?
[16:48] <jmadero> and do you see "privacy" in settings?
[16:48] <Flolila> hey there does anyone know what is going on here? am i infected with something? http://i.imgur.com/fF5z7k3.png
[16:48] <Guest48378> jmadero, could this work for you => http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/disable-screensaver-lock-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/?PageSpeed=noscript
[16:48] <jmadero> and the options aren't grayd out?
[16:48] <sydney> jmadero: yes,here,let me take a pic.
[16:48] <jmadero> Guest48378: thanks!
[16:48] <jmadero> I think that di dit
[16:48] <jmadero> no clue why GUI is locked out
[16:48] <michaelaguiar> Is there a way to set DNSMASQ to use .dev without using the hosts file, but to make is so I can use .dev instead of .dev:8000
[16:49] <jmadero> and I guess others can think I'm a whinny pain in the ... for complaining
[16:49] <michaelaguiar> so assign a port without me typing it in every time?
[16:49] <Flolila> what are those connections?
[16:49] <jmadero> but seems like that resolved it
[16:49] <phunyguy> Flolila, what are we looking at here?
[16:49] <sydney> jmadero: then i wont show pic :D
[16:49] <Flolila> i was running etherape
[16:49] <jmadero> sydney: still going to report a bug against Gnome
[16:49] <jmadero> if they want to say Ubuntu sucks - so be it
[16:49] <Flolila> trying to find out why my inet is so slow
[16:49] <phunyguy> Flolila, looks like a whole lot of IPv6 nonsense
[16:49] <sydney> jmadero: Its there fo me.
[16:50] <Flolila> ok
[16:50] <jmadero> sydney: +1
[16:50] <Flolila> how can i get rid of it?
[16:50] <jmadero> thanks for those who helped
[16:50] <phunyguy> Flolila, does your ISP use IPv6?
[16:50] <sydney> jmadero: sorry i wasnt able to. :(
[16:50] <Flolila> i have no idea
[16:50] <jmadero> sydney: no no - you tried :)
[16:50] <phunyguy> Flolila, judging by your hostmask, the answer is probably no, so that means that traffic is local to your network.
[16:51] <jmadero> and gave useful info
[16:51] <jmadero> sydney: going to try with my 2nd user - maybe it's a configuration problem
[16:51] <phunyguy> Flolila, are you on a school network or something?
[16:51] <jmadero> with my main user
[16:51] <Flolila> yes dorm
[16:51] <sydney> jmadero: are you running ubuntu gnome skin on a unity install?
[16:51] <jmadero> sydney: not really a skin ;) I'm running the full DE on ubuntu
[16:51] <phunyguy> Flolila, then there is probably a lot of broadcast traffic on a poorly configured network
[16:51] <jmadero> much lower CPU use than Unity from my experience
[16:51] <jmadero> I also have KDE installed
[16:51] <phunyguy> Flolila, can you pastebin the output of ifconfig?
[16:51] <jmadero> used to have Cinnamon as well until the ppa was stopped
[16:51] <Flolila> sure one sec
[16:52] <sydney> jmadero: same here. they stopped the ppa 2 days after i installed cinnamon!!
[16:53] <jmadero> lol bummer
[16:53] <jmadero> sydney: supposedly there is another one
[16:53] <phunyguy> ahh yes, fe80::/64 is link local, Flolila, so the network you are connected to has a lot of stuff on it with IPv6 enabled and broadcasting.  You can probably disable IPv6 if you don't need it.
[16:53] <jmadero> I haven't tried it yet
[16:53] <lkyw> hello everyone, because there is a huge chance that it could save my data (read it as "my life"), I need to ask this question: can I ANYHOW get a log of my keystrokes on ubuntu ?
[16:53] <Flolila> http://pastebin.com/Ew642A7p
[16:53] <sydney> jmadero: maybe
[16:53] <Flolila> thanks phunyguy can you tell me how to do this?
[16:53] <OEP> lkyw: past keystrokes?
[16:54] <phunyguy> Flolila, http://askubuntu.com/questions/309461/how-to-disable-ipv6-permanently
[16:54] <lkyw> OEP, yes
[16:54] <sydney> jmadero: I have unity,unity 2D,openbox,ubuntu Gnome,Gnome clasic,lxde,kde and xfce all on one pc. :D
[16:54] <OEP> lkyw: did you enter them into a console/shell?
[16:54] <Flolila> thanks
[16:54] <jmadero> sydney: +1 :-D I do QA testing for LibreOffice so I need multiple DE's
[16:54] <jmadero> sydney: I also use E17
[16:54] <phunyguy> Flolila, if that doesn't fix it, then get with the network admins at your school to figure out why there is so much IPv6 traffic on the network
[16:54] <mexi_d3> lkyw, From how long ago and in what application? Did you install anything special to record them?
[16:54] <Flolila> so i dont have to worry about being infected by some virus?
[16:54] <jmadero> sydney: E17 is the fastest by far, but not flashy at all
[16:55] <Flolila> allright
[16:55] <Flolila> thanks again!
[16:55] <OEP> lkyw: e.g. a terminal or some other application
[16:55] <phunyguy> Flolila, no, it is the IPv6 on several devices being enabled, broadcasting for an IP, not getting one, and setting one for itself... while still broadcasting.
[16:55] <sydney> jmadero: I like lubuntu. :D
[16:55] <jmadero> :-D never tried it actually
[16:56] <jmadero> sydney: I like extra functionality - for instance with Gnome I really like integrated chat
[16:56] <jmadero> with Unity I really like compiz (both for looks and functionality)
[16:56] <jmadero> the only DE I haven't liked much is KDE
[16:56] <lkyw> OEP, mexi_d3 sorry...I think I misconceived the situation..I am likely not to have typed, but copy-pasted. in this regard, I have to change my question: is it ANYHOW possible to get a history of "paste to clipboard" on ubuntu?
[16:56] <phunyguy> Flolila, worst case scenario, you are being singled out by a botnet of some sort by someone at the school, and it is DDoSing you
[16:57] <Flolila> :O
[16:57] <Flolila> i dont hope so
[16:57] <phunyguy> but that is not infection, that is simply denying you of services
[16:57] <xangua> lkyw: just use a clipboard manager
[16:57] <lkyw> OEP, mexi_d3, since 1st March, I can say.
[16:57] <Flolila> allright
[16:57] <sydney> jmadero: I have a few addons for gnome,but none of the newer ones. :(
[16:57] <lkyw> xangua, I meant the past data
[16:57] <phunyguy> Flolila, disabling IPv6 may stop it if that is the case
[16:57] <jmadero> sydney: I use about 7 addons :-D the drop down terminal is amazing
[16:58] <sydney> jmadero: That is only in 14.04,not 12.04
[16:58] <OEP> lkyw: I don't know enough about X internals to recover something that far back, maybe you can explain the situation a little more (such as the source of the original data) and someone can help further
[16:58] <sydney> jmadero: I like the weather one. :D
[16:58] <jmadero> okay next question - when I fullscreen chromium when watching flash (youtube for intance) the fullscreen is wrong (see image here http://imgur.com/fCUcoIG)
[16:59] <jmadero> as you can see it's a new window that does not cover the top gnome taskbar and it goes too far down (off screen) so I can't get to the video controls
[16:59] <sydney> jmadero: hmm,not sure.
[17:00] <sydney> jmadero: are you sure its the computer,and not the screen?
[17:00] <jmadero> sydney: laptop :)
[17:00] <lkyw> OEP, the story is this: the password to a disk partition of mine is no more available. that password has been once copy-pasted from my keyring program (seahorse) into the nautilus password window. now it is one of my tiny chances to regain access to my partition to recover password this way
[17:00] <sydney> jmadero: oh
[17:00] <numerius> lol
[17:00] <jmadero> when I fullscreen with firefox - it's fine. But I have choppy playback with ff when playing flash videos
[17:01] <jmadero> chromium is smooth playback but can't fullscreen :)
[17:01] <sydney> jmadero: i was just about to ask you that...
[17:01] <jmadero> yeah for at least the past 2 years firefox is choppy for me with flash
[17:01] <sydney> jmadero: have you ever tried google chrome?
[17:01] <jmadero> chromium is chrome basically
[17:01] <jmadero> but I will test
[17:01] <OEP> lkyw: I take it the keyring program's data must be on the encrypted volume?
[17:01] <lkyw> OEP: precisely
[17:02] <jmadero> downloading now
[17:02] <sydney> jmadero: no it is not.
[17:02] <OEP> hrm that's a tough one
[17:02] <jmadero> sydney: my understanding is chromium is open source and then chrome takes the code and alters it a bit and then closes it
[17:02] <phunyguy> Flolila, look into the gufw package if you are very worried about it.  You can have it drop by default, and only allow in what you need.
[17:02] <jmadero> but it's similar devs working together
[17:02] <jmadero> could be wrong about that
[17:02] <sydney> jmadero: I had issues with chrominum,so i installed google chrome. :D
[17:03] <sydney> jmadero: fixed  now:D
[17:03] <Flolila> allright phunyguy, this is all new to me
[17:03] <lkyw> OEP, is there a chance for clipboard history? on the machine that I want to check this, I have been using the same OS that I was using when I last copy-pasted the password
[17:03] <rcw2> wilee-nilee: hi
[17:03] <nectarys_> i'm trying to connect a open my usb via virtualbox where i've launched Windows 7, but I wasn't able to find how. Does anyone know how to deal with, please ?
[17:04] <wilee-nilee> rcw2, Hi, so do you get how to run the bootscript?
[17:04] <rcw2> wilee-nilee: installing now
[17:04] <sydney> jmadero: google chrome is not quite as resource friendly though. ;)
[17:05] <OEP> lkyw: I guess that would be a long shot unless there just happened to be something out there that logs clipboard data (which I sort of doubt, sounds like a major security issue to me), was this something like truecrypt that doesn't unlock on boot, but you just use your keyring program as you need access to the volume?
[17:05] <wilee-nilee> rcw2, IF windows is still showing in the grub menu try just running sudo update-grub  that may fix the issue.
[17:05] <ben88> hello ubunut world
[17:05] <rcw2> wilee-nilee: well my issue is larger, i don't have any menu at bootup and must use a live cd
[17:06] <sydney> ben88: Hi!!
[17:06] <kyriakoshadj_> Hello i encrypted my hard disk i type the code correctly and there is not opening and it is opening BusyBox
[17:06] <nectarys_> i'm trying to connect a open my usb via virtualbox where i've launched Windows 7, but I wasn't able to find how. Does anyone know how to deal with, please ?
[17:06] <wilee-nilee> rcw2, Ah cool, so to speak, the script will help us diagnose.
[17:06] <rcw2> wilee-nilee: but restoring grub hasn't worked, and i think the windows bootloader may be interfering
[17:06] <kyriakoshadj_> How can i be into it?
[17:06] <ben88> does anyone have time to explain how shared libs work ?
[17:06] <lkyw> OEP, I dont use truecrypt, I used keyring program to store my password to the partition.
[17:07] <sydney> jmadero: ok,i have to go. Bye!!
[17:07] <sydney> jmadero: hopeflly that fixes your problem. :D
[17:07] <llutz> ben88: ask in  ##linux
[17:08] <ben88> thx
[17:08] <OEP> lkyw: this is an encrypted volume like you make normally with the ubuntu installer?
[17:08] <ben88> can't send to room ##linux?
[17:09] <ben88> not a frequent IRC'er
[17:09] <ben88> hmm
[17:09] <llutz> !register | ben88
[17:09] <rcw2> wilee-nilee: caveat: there has been a lot of partition deleting done today, here's where things are now:  http://pastebin.com/butfn6Gw
[17:10] <lkyw> OEP, I created the encrypted volume with disk utility (palimpsest)..
[17:13] <wilee-nilee> rcw2, Yeah you have partition numbers out of order, not the best scenario. Are sda1 and sda5 the same basic root?
[17:14] <rcw2> sda5 is ideal, sda1 is a backup of sda5 i just made.  you'll see the boot flag on sda1 but that's just because that was my plan for my next test.  if you can suggest a setup, i can modify things, reboot, and return
[17:14] <Eeinn> anyone around that's familiar with Resara? lol
[17:14] <wilee-nilee> rcw2, I see no windows remnants, so that is not an issue.
[17:15] <rcw2> wilee-nilee: ok, gparted was saying something about sda2 being affiliated with msdos, so i thought sda2 might have some windows bootloader attached
[17:15] <wilee-nilee> rcw2, Use my nick prefacing answer to me every time, the boot flag means nothing in linux. two identical roots is you issue here.
[17:15] <rcw2> wilee-nilee: heres a visual representation: http://ctrlv.in/341770
[17:16] <rcw2> wilee-nilee: ok, will do.  no, this issue was there before i created the second root
[17:17] <lkyw> there are various clipboard history tools ( c.h. utility, diodon) as I found out. do any of these display history "before" the installation of the tool?
[17:17] <wilee-nilee> rcw2, sda2 is the extended, it just contains partitions, you have been over thinking this with multiple errors of any cause and effect
[17:17] <rcw2> wilee-nilee: id be glad to just get going with sda2
[17:18] <rcw2> wilee-nilee: i can make sda1 hidden if that helps
[17:19] <wilee-nilee> rcw2, I'm not sure I can help you, you have a whole set of wrong assumptions, that to weed through and explain I just don;t have the energy to be honest. ;)
[17:20] <rcw2> wilee-nilee: do you have a set of instructions for getting this going?
[17:22] <wilee-nilee> rcw2, You have painted yourself into a corner, with partitions out of order and two identical partitions. You do not have to re-install, but to be honest the easiest fix here would be to back up and do that.
[17:22] <lkyw> sorry I have to disconnect for a sec
[17:22] <random_guy_> hey
[17:22] <random_guy_> i got a problem
[17:22] <random_guy_> todays ubuntu update broke it
[17:23] <wilee-nilee> !details | random_guy_ all in one post
[17:24] <rcw2> wilee-nilee: backup and do what? delete the mirrored partition and done??
[17:26] <random_guy_> yep : i updated ubuntu 14.04 today; update went smoothly ; after reboot i was stuck after the login screen with pointer and no unity; ctrl+alt+f1 tty0 login shows no major discrepancy in lightdm logs or greeter logs; what i have done - correcting ownership of .Xauthority, purging and re-installing ubuntu-desktop,compiz and unity
[17:26] <wilee-nilee> rcw2, Back up to an external what you need, wipe the HD and start over, having a separate home is not really needed anymore, you can actually do that if needed on a distro upgrade, here it has complicated things as you are not real up on partitioning and general basic stuff to be honest.
[17:27] <wilee-nilee> random_guy_, Were you using a proprietary graphic driver?
[17:28] <wilee-nilee> random_guy_, THe ubuntu desktop and unity are the same thing and doing that purging was a foolish move.
[17:28] <alex________> hi
[17:32] <random_guy_> ya i use propitiatory nvidia blob
[17:32] <random_guy_> i just tried to clear confs and check !
[17:33] <adamsilver> guys, the brightness controls are not working after installing ubuntu on my laptop… is this related to not using Nvidia drivers?
[17:36] <zetheroo> a friend of mine has installed 14.04 fresh on his Dell laptop - in the Live Session the wifi and USB work fine - after the install wifi and USB ports don't work
[17:36] <wilee-nilee> random_guy_, Preface answer to other here with their nick, propitiatory drivers do not follow kernel upgrades we had one lately, was there on in this update?
[17:36] <wilee-nilee> one*
[17:36] <random_guy_> no it wasnt a kernel update
[17:36] <random_guy_> just a normal one
[17:39] <nodata> hi
[17:39] <nodata> i just installed nullidentd by this command ( sudo apt-get install nullidentd ) ...but why it is not working ?  any help ?
[17:40] <zetheroo> does anyone have an idea why something which works in a Live Session no longer works after installing? I have never had this happen to me, so I am completely green here.
[17:40] <wilee-nilee> random_guy_, Since you have done some voodoo you probably did not need to do it is difficult to tell exactly what is up here, Have you tried to just reload the graphic drivers? Also notice when I talk to you you see random_guy_ at the start of the message, this notifies you I'm at your door like a visual doorbell. ;)
[17:41] <random_guy_> http://filebin.ca/1OmlN3Vwn4C8/lightdm.zip
[17:41] <planetmaker> zetheroo, different driver setup
[17:41] <random_guy_> look my lightdm logs if there is something
[17:41] <zetheroo> planetmaker: the drivers used in the Live Session are different from those used after install?
[17:41] <planetmaker> the full install might have more, tries a - seemingly - more appropriate first. But that one fails
[17:41] <fantastic001> Hello, i have a problem with opening images on ubuntu
[17:41] <planetmaker> not different, but possibly less
[17:41] <planetmaker> but dunno :)
[17:42] <wilee-nilee> zetheroo, Are you helping your friend by asking here?
[17:42] <fantastic001> when i connect lg z1 on ubuntu box i can view files but when i try to open image, it fails
[17:42] <zetheroo> planetmaker: that would kinda make the idea of testing your hardware with the LiveCD pointless :P
[17:42] <fantastic001> i saw phone uses mtp and i cannot figure out where it is mounted
[17:42] <zetheroo> wilee-nilee: yes
[17:42] <fantastic001> and, when i move image to my hdd (desktop for example) it opens well
[17:43] <fantastic001> does someone kow where problem is or from where can i start searching for solution?
[17:44] <wilee-nilee> zetheroo, Doing that really complicates a complicated problem for us already, have them come here themselves.
[17:44] <zetheroo> wilee-nilee: unfortunately for some people even coming to irc is too much ..
[17:44] <zetheroo> wilee-nilee: do you have any insight into the issue and what could be done to fix it?
[17:45] <wilee-nilee> zetheroo, I will not help in this scenario is all, I like my general sanity. ;)
[17:45] <kDycuQUACK> Hey hoping someone had a bit of insight on an audio problem I'm having.
[17:46] <zetheroo> wilee-nilee: in that case let's just say I am the one with the issues ;)
[17:46] <kDycuQUACK> While playing audio files on lubuntu 10.04 I get crackling audio and static UNLESS I'm actively typing or moving my mouse
[17:46] <kDycuQUACK> any ideas?
[17:47] <planetmaker> sounds weired, kDycuQUACK. But did you try any distro which is not 4 years old?
[17:47] <kDycuQUACK> I know, I know, I'm in a specific situation that requires me to use this specific distro
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> zetheroo, Really you expect me to help under that scenario, are you retarded, I ask in the nice way possible. ;)
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> nicest
[17:48] <zetheroo> wilee-nilee: the guy having the issues can do any command instantly and give me feedback ...
[17:48] <planetmaker> wilee-nilee, anyone can use a web browser-based IRC client. That's really not asked too much
[17:49] <planetmaker> ups... ^ @ zetheroo
[17:50] <zetheroo> planetmaker: heh ... I have never even done that myself ... have always used one client or another :)
[17:50] <wilee-nilee> planetmaker, Not sure why you are telling me this.
[17:50] <braindrop> hey Ubuntu. I'm looking to get a SATA3 controller to add some high speed ports to my Ubuntu system. Since SATA3 is 6gbps, I want something that is at least pcie x2 since otherwise, the pcie will limit the connection to 5gbps. Can anyone make any suggestions? The best I've found so far is this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124060&cm_re=sata_controller-_-16-124-060-_-Product
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> planetmaker, Is ups oops?
[17:51] <planetmaker> Yes. Noticed you don't need that lecture after I hit enter
[17:51] <braindrop> There seems to be some argument as to whether or not a Marvell 88SE9230 controller is stable in Linux. So after hours of looking around, I figured I'd stop here for some opinions/experience
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> planetmaker, Cool, just trying to understand. ;)
[17:51] <planetmaker> sorry for the confusion :)
[17:56] <ciccio_> !list
[17:59] <zetheroo> wilee-nilee: I am trying to get the user onto the channel
[18:00] <Monotoko> gonna ask here too: I can't seem to figure out how to get bind on my 14.04 server, I've tried to the usual "apt-get install bind9" but it's saying there's no installation candidate
[18:01] <apb1963> so I reformatted my brand new128GB USB 2.0 stick from exFAT to NTFS... 6+ hours later, it said it was successful.  Then I ran fsck on it.  I get "$MFTMirr does not match $MFT (record 3).   Remount failed: Input/output error"  Any ideas?  ubuntu 12.04
[18:01] <Monotoko> here's what I'm doing and what's happening: http://pastebin.com/vbKkvFQW
[18:02] <Monotoko> dnsutils isn't bind...
[18:03] <lkyw> hello again, I just had the question if I could retrieve my clipboard history of the last 3 months. would this be possible? it is of critical importance to save my whole data!
[18:03] <Monotoko> lkyw, not unless you have something to save it
[18:03] <Monotoko> otherwise it's gone when you overwrite it
[18:04] <lkyw> Monotoko, what kind of something? like a clipboard history program?
[18:04] <Monotoko> yeah, but it won't record anything that's gone already
[18:04] <Monotoko> esp. the last 3 months
[18:05] <lkyw> how about my keystrokes? can I get my keystrokes ANYHOW for the same period?
[18:05] <lkyw> or only for March is even enough
[18:05] <Monotoko> not unless you had a keylogger installed
[18:05] <kirankumar> hello sir i intalled vertual box  i am new user i want to copy my data from linux into vertual os what i do? help please
[18:05] <drex> lkyw: you should be able to get your bash history, that’s about it
[18:06] <wilee-nilee> apb1963, you ran a fsck on a ntfs?
[18:06] <mr_enthusiasm> Hey, I'm having a real hard time figuring out how to create some permanent cgroups. I've tried creating a cgconfig.conf file in /etc/ but that doesn't seem to be working. Any suggestions out there?
[18:06] <apb1963> wilee-nilee: Yes
[18:06] <lkyw> drex, could you please help me know what it would be useful for? I am not yet familiar with bash history
[18:06] <wilee-nilee> apb1963, Bad idea, you should be using windows and a chkdsk
[18:06] <Monotoko> lkyw, it's what you've run in bash - probably not what you're trying to find
[18:06] <drex> open a terminal and type 'history' whithout the quotes
[18:07] <kirankumar> any one help to use vertual machine
[18:07] <drex> anything you typed at the command line
[18:07] <Monotoko> lkyw, what are you actually trying to find?
[18:07] <wilee-nilee> !details | kirankumar Ste the actual issue
[18:07] <compdoc> kirankumar, whats the problem?
[18:07] <lkyw> Monotoko, my password to a disk partition
[18:08] <Monotoko> lkyw, encrypted with Ubuntu's standard system on install?
[18:08] <lkyw> most probably in March, I created this password and copy-pasted it to my keyring program. that's why I ask for the logs
[18:08] <lkyw> Monotoko, I used the gnome disk utility to create the encrypted partititon
[18:08] <lkyw> partition*
[18:09] <Monotoko> lkyw, hm, sounds like you're screwed unless you can find the keyring it was in
[18:09] <Monotoko> do you remember anything about the password? The more you can remember, the more likelyhood you would have of cracking it
[18:09] <lkyw> Monotoko, I've got other tiny hopes to reach the keyring. but finding out what I typed or copy-pasted would solve the problem straight on
[18:10] <zetheroo> DV: you there?
[18:10] <lkyw> Monotoko, can anywhere not be deep-searched in the hardware or so? any "last corner"?
[18:10] <Monotoko> lkyw, no chance, sorry
[18:10] <DV___> Hi, I've done up upgrade from 13 to 14 on my mil dell660. On live USB, everything works, but on reboot the usb and wifi don't work (qualcomm atheos)
[18:10] <apb1963> wilee-nilee: I also ran ntfsfix, and got the identical output.
[18:10] <Monotoko> lkyw, you could ask the NSA
[18:10] <kirankumar> yes sir my problem is . i was a installed a vertual machine and  in machine i installed windows xp.  i have need a data from outside my machine (vertual machin)
[18:10] <Monotoko> but I doubt they'd tell you
[18:10] <Monotoko> :P
[18:10] <zetheroo> DV___: Ah there you are
[18:11] <zetheroo> wilee-nilee: please meet DV___  ;)
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> apb1963, Linux just does not have the tools to do what windows does period. Why are you doing this anyway?
[18:11] <lkyw> Monotoko, if I were in anywhere in the physical proximity to any intelligence staff, I'd even try that
[18:12] <apb1963> wilee-nilee: Because it came preformatted as exfat and based on the reading I've done ntfs is more reliable than exfat
[18:12] <lkyw> Monotoko, despair aside, is there no clipboard program that shows the history before the install?
[18:12] <zetheroo> wilee-nilee: DV___ has the Atheros AR9485 chipset and Intel 7 Series/C210 USB chipset
[18:13] <Monotoko> lkyw, no sorry, it doesn't exist so there's nothing to show
[18:13] <maddawg3> depends actually
[18:13] <Monotoko> it stores anything you copy into memory
[18:13] <sarahS> Hi everyone. I have a somewhat odd question, please bear with me. :)
[18:13] <maddawg3> a lot of external drives should still remain FAT
[18:13] <sarahS> I have ubuntu installed on 2 different drives on the same machine.  when i boot from the primary drive i get a local IP of 10.0.4.9.  when i boot from the secondary drive, it receives the ip: 10.0.4.7.   How can i ensure that the secondary has the same IP as the primary (10.0.4.9)
[18:13] <Monotoko> that memory is wiped when you shit down
[18:13] <Monotoko> *shut down
[18:13] <Monotoko> sorry
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> apb1963, That is an opinion is all, why are you running these file analysis's?
[18:13] <Monotoko> never touches the hard drive
[18:13] <apb1963> wilee-nilee: plus when I ran chkdsk it barfed... so I figured I'd try linux tools since linux is better than windoze.
[18:13] <maddawg3> but if you need more than a 4GB for a single file then ntfs probably would be better but not all things support ntfs
[18:14] <maddawg3> apb1963 what seems to be the issue?
[18:14] <apb1963> wilee-nilee: It's more reliable since there are two FATs in ntfs... whereas exfat only has one.
[18:14] <apb1963> maddawg3: so I reformatted my brand new128GB USB 2.0 stick from exFAT to NTFS... 6+ hours later, it said it was successful.  Then I ran fsck on it.  I get "$MFTMirr does not match $MFT (record 3).   Remount failed: Input/output error"  Any ideas?  ubuntu 12.04
[18:14] <wilee-nilee> apb1963, "linux is better than windoze." Another opinion it is yours, and spell windows correctly here. The fanboi stuff does not fly here. ;)
[18:14] <kirankumar> #ubottu     can help me? ,  to use of vertual machine
[18:15] <wilee-nilee> apb1963, Any way I'm done with you, you are misinformed and just not worth messing with.
[18:15] <lkyw> Monotoko, I don't wanna be pushy, but I'd typed in the passwords in text editor before copy-pasting, and closed the text editor after paste. can anything be dug out of gedit text editor logs?
[18:16] <apb1963> wilee-nilee: So you're saying you have a different opinion than the other opinions posted on the Net...
[18:16] <maddawg3> what tool did you use to format it?
[18:16] <apb1963> maddawg3: mkfs
[18:16] <Monotoko> lkyw, again, if you didn't save it - it's all in memory
[18:17] <Monotoko> if you've saved it to the disk, and deleted it - you could try a recovery program
[18:17] <Monotoko> but from what it sounds like, you haven't done that
[18:17] <zetheroo> wilee-nilee: I guess your busy now with apb1963 ... but were you able to catch the info I posted?
[18:17] <maddawg3> apb1963 i dont know much about mkfs personally but i had that error before
[18:17] <maddawg3> the smftmirr does not match smft
[18:18] <maddawg3> i dont remember the record but probably irrelevant
[18:18] <maddawg3> i reformatted the drive and it worked
[18:18] <maddawg3> but i was going from fat32 to ntfs
[18:18] <maddawg3> not exfat
[18:18] <apb1963> maddawg3: how did you reformat it?
[18:18] <maddawg3> with gparted
[18:19] <maddawg3> apb1963: you could also try ntfsprog
[18:19] <amriunix> maddawg what kind of fileSystem you use ???
[18:19] <Monotoko>  I'm on Ubuntu 14.04 and can't seem to get bind9... here's what I have in my sources.list: http://pastebin.com/x0J0KZ5t and here's what I get when I try to install it: http://pastebin.com/vbKkvFQW
[18:19] <Monotoko> any ideas?
[18:19] <zetheroo> DV___: sorry, I don't know what happened with wilee-nilee. He said if I got you on the channel that he would help you out. :P
[18:20] <apb1963> maddawg3: first thing I tried was kde partition manager... then installed ntfs-3g and ntfsprog....
[18:20] <DV___> :)
[18:20] <kirankumar> in virtual os.   how i use actual data to virtual machin.
[18:20] <maddawg3> amriunix on my Linux i use ext4
[18:20] <maddawg3> try gparted if your just trying to make a ntfs partition
[18:20] <zetheroo> DV___: ikonia is also a pro in this channel ... but I don't see him around at the moment
[18:20] <maddawg3> it comes on the ubuntu install disk i dont think it installs with the OS though
[18:21] <maddawg3> could be wrong about that
[18:21] <maddawg3> but either way... sudo apt-get install gparted
[18:21] <maddawg3> assuming you have a gui...  if not you can use the gparted startup disk
[18:21] <lkyw> Monotoko, there are at least 2 disks where I'd saved it, one external disk and a usb, plus a computer HDD. in HDD and usb the saved files were twofold deleted: once with "wipe" and once with "dd". from what I already heard from people, these two processes rule out any recovery chance. and at the last place it was only wiped, not dded, but this place is the very encrypted partition that I want to access to.
[18:22] <maddawg3> My windows machine uses NTFS for everything but FAT32 for removable
[18:22] <maddawg3> (I keep most of my removable as fat
[18:22] <maddawg3> easier to go between different OSes
[18:22] <OerHeks> !find bind9
[18:23] <kirankumar> any one help me? please
[18:23] <apb1963> maddawg3: Yeah, that's another reason I figured I'd wipe the exfat and go with NTFS.
[18:23] <maddawg3> whats another reason?
[18:23] <maddawg3> NTFS is not widely supported
[18:23] <maddawg3> exFAT is
[18:23] <maddawg3> you need 3rd party stuff for ntfs
[18:23] <apb1963> maddawg3: what you mention... easier to go between different OSes
[18:23] <maddawg3> ntfs is harder tho
[18:23] <maddawg3> fat is easier
[18:23] <maddawg3> i keep all my removable media as FAT so that I can go between OSes
[18:24] <apb1963> maddawg3: o i c
[18:24] <bhavesh> I installed CInnamon on Ubuntu, I think I changed its themes a lot of times, I want to get the original cinnamon look and feel back. I tried my best, but still I get this kind of bugged theme http://i.imgur.com/Op2BXiH.png There's black background for the desktop tweak setting window. Also you cannot read the names of desktop files properly
[18:24] <maddawg3> like at school they use Macs and they need a special utility to read ntfs
[18:24] <zetheroo> Ha! wilee-nilee has left the building ... so much for acting like you will help if the user with the issue joins the room ... next time I will not waste my friends' time :P
[18:24] <maddawg3> which they dont have
[18:24] <apb1963> maddawg3: I misread what you wrote
[18:24] <bhavesh> and when I select some file from the file manager, I cannot read it properly too. Any suggestions?
[18:24] <maddawg3> zetheroo what is the issue
[18:24] <kirankumar> please.. help me..
[18:24] <maddawg3> kirankumar just ask the question
[18:25] <zetheroo> maddawg3: a friend of mine has installed 14.04 fresh on his Dell desktop - in the Live Session the wifi and USB work fine - after the install wifi and USB ports don't work
[18:25] <apb1963> maddawg3: I'm just wondering if shouldn't just use ext4 and (hopefully) be done with it.
[18:25] <Guest48378> kirankumar, long way to go: Please read in "Virtualbox Help" => "4.2. Installing and Maintaining Guest Additions" and "4.3. Shared Folders". - Then you can use data from your host.
[18:26] <bhavesh> And I also get gnome-ish icons
[18:26] <bhavesh> window borders
[18:26] <zetheroo> maddawg3: he is on the channel now (DV___) and the machine has the Atheros AR9485 chipset and Intel 7 Series/C210 USB
[18:26] <apb1963> maddawg3: but I might as well give gparted a whirl.
[18:26] <bhavesh> any help setting everything back to normal?
[18:26] <SchrodingersScat> kirankumar: that would depend on what you are using with the VM, for example virtualbox lets you assign folders that can be read/write.
[18:26] <maddawg3> zetheroo yea i cant help with that i dont think...
[18:27] <zetheroo> maddawg3: I have never had it happen that things which work during the Live Session no longer work after install .. so I am clueless with that
[18:27] <maddawg3> i have never used 14.04
[18:27] <zetheroo> maddawg3: ok
[18:27] <maddawg3> you sure it was installed correctly
[18:27] <kirankumar> maddawg3 sir installed virtual machine. in virtual machine os it not support  linux partition and data
[18:27] <zetheroo> maddawg3: have you ever experienced things working in the Live Session and then not working after install?
[18:27] <zetheroo> maddawg3: dunno ... need to as DV___
[18:28] <maddawg3> cant say I have...
[18:28] <maddawg3> not off the top of my head
[18:29] <apb1963> maddawg3: Hmm.  How do I run it as root?
[18:29] <maddawg3> run what as root?
[18:29] <apb1963> maddawg3: gparted
[18:30] <apb1963> maddawg3: it won't let me run it as me
[18:30] <zetheroo> apb1963: gksudo gparted
[18:30] <maddawg3> gksudo gparted i think
[18:30] <zetheroo> apb1963: or gksu gparted works too
[18:30] <maddawg3> zetheroo what does the output of lsusb show?
[18:30] <moarrr> my ubuntu is very slow
[18:30] <DV___> hi maddawg3:  thanks for your time. it was a native upgrade from 13, but then after reboot the grub was messed up. I did a reinstall (keeping home) of 14 and it fixed grub, but wifi and usb didn't work
[18:30] <maddawg3> !pastebin
[18:30] <moarrr> is thre something wrong with it?
[18:31] <maddawg3> DV___ what does lsusb show?
[18:32] <apb1963> maddawg3: (gksudo:30249): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0
[18:32] <mariusz__> witam was
[18:32] <apb1963> maddawg3: the reason it can't open the display is because I'm logged in as me.
[18:32] <apb1963> maddawg3: and therefore already own it
[18:33] <mariusz__> ma proble ni chodzom mi filmy na yutubie ubuntu 9 10
[18:34] <Pici> !pl | mariusz__
[18:34] <DV___> maddawg3: there's 9 lines of output and it's not online :-/
[18:34] <maddawg3> apb1963 well i dunno.. gparted never asks to be ran as root
[18:34] <apb1963> maddawg3: nevermind... I was running it from a root window
[18:34] <maddawg3> how are you running it?
[18:34] <zetheroo> maddawg3: since the wifi is not working on the machine it's got no internet connection ...
[18:34] <apb1963> apb1963: erase erase erase :)
[18:34] <apb1963> maddawg3: erase erase erase
[18:34] <DV___> maddawg3: am on another laptop on here :)
[18:34] <maddawg3> so zertheroo?
[18:35] <maddawg3> my commands dont require an internet connection
[18:35] <maddawg3> apb1963 what?
[18:35] <dey> does someone here know if its possible to put a virtual gap between two displays with the intel hd4600 gpus/drivers? like i can with nvidia?
[18:35] <zetheroo> maddawg3: no but to put the output on the channel internet it needed ...
[18:36] <maddawg3> or... you can type it
[18:36] <econdudeawesome> howdy all. Trying to get a Belkin AC Dual-Band WiFi USB adapter to work with Lubuntu. Not sure how to go about this, even to see if it is being recognized by the system
[18:36] <zetheroo> maddawg3: DV___ is trying to sort out a connection :)
[18:36] <maddawg3> does the wired work?
[18:36] <econdudeawesome> talking to me maddawg3? If so, yes, works great
[18:36] <zetheroo> maddawg3: I guess he has to test that ...
[18:36] <apb1963> maddawg3: nvm I figured out what I did wrong... running a check on the usb stick now
[18:36] <maddawg3> in terms of wifi... did that work from the live cd?
[18:37] <zetheroo> maddawg3: yes, he said it worked on the Live Session as well
[18:37] <zetheroo> very odd
[18:37] <maddawg3> he may not have installed ubuntu correctly
[18:37] <maddawg3> if he only did a base system install some stuff might not work but not entirely sure
[18:37] <zetheroo> maddawg3: possibly, though I have seen issues with this wireless chipset in 14.04 ...
[18:37] <apb1963> maddawg3: it says "1 operation pending"... I presume that means it's actually executing?
[18:38] <maddawg3> no you need to execute it apb1963
[18:38] <apb1963> maddawg3: or is it telling me the operation has been queued and I need to kick it off somehow?
[18:38] <maddawg3> i believe there is a check mark or something apb1963
[18:38] <maddawg3> cant remember tho
[18:38] <zetheroo> maddawg3: http://tinypic.com/r/o6fiar/8
[18:39] <apb1963> maddawg3: yeah, found it.
[18:39] <apb1963> maddawg3: And it ends up giving me the identical output to ntfsfix
[18:40] <maddawg3> zetheroo according to that the USB is working
[18:40] <zetheroo> DV___: but wait a minute ... do you have a USB mouse plugged in?
[18:40] <ice9> how to run a program in chroot?
[18:40] <maddawg3> is he using server?
[18:40] <apb1963> maddawg3: guess i'll try chkdsk and see if works any better... I just hate to do that because it takes ages.
[18:41] <maddawg3> apb1963 what happens when it mounts
[18:41] <DV___> zetheroo: yup, another oddity
[18:41] <maddawg3> DV___ you installed the server build?
[18:41] <maddawg3> or is this just how it's coming up?
[18:41] <apb1963> maddawg3: you mean when I actually try to mount mount?  or when gparted tries to mount?
[18:41] <maddawg3> when you try to mount
[18:41] <maddawg3> mount to a directory
[18:41] <maddawg3> or plug it into another machine
[18:42] <DV___> maddawg3: no, desktop
[18:42] <zetheroo> maddawg3: what makes you think its the Server edition?
[18:42] <maddawg3> the last time i had this error it was due to a problem with my flashdrive apb1963
[18:42] <maddawg3> oh nvm sorry i didnt see the background until i scrolled
[18:42] <zetheroo> DV___: so the USB is working ... ?
[18:43] <apb1963> maddawg3:
[18:43] <apb1963> $MFTMirr does not match $MFT (record 3).
[18:43] <apb1963> Failed to mount '/dev/sdd1': Input/output error
[18:43] <kirankumar> i shred a folder it not display or mouned in virtual os
[18:43] <apb1963> maddawg3: there's a lot more text... but that's the gist of it
[18:44] <markolo266> hello
[18:44] <zetheroo> DV___: can you plug another USB device in and then repeat the lsusb command and see if the new device shows up?
[18:44] <DV___> zetheroo: I assume the mouse works since it's plugged in on boot? but no, only mouse (usb) works. any other device plugged in doesn't show up
[18:44] <Jordan_U> apb1963: That sounds a lot like faulty hardware.
[18:44] <markolo266> i have a ml350 g5 and it's only certified to run 10.04, can it run 14.04?
[18:44] <Hypnoz> zetheroo: dmesg | tail would show something attached as well
[18:45] <zetheroo> DV___: by "doesn't show up" do you mean when looking with lsusb?
[18:45] <zetheroo> Hypnoz: yes true!
[18:45] <apb1963> Jordan_U: Yeah, I've been thinking I have a defective usb stick... which I don't want to think :(  It's brand new, never used.
[18:45] <markolo266> they use them to test them out at the factory
[18:45] <Jordan_U> apb1963: Run badblocks on it as a test.
[18:46] <DV___> zetheroo: doesn't show in the disk util or in lsusb
[18:46] <kirankumar> i use 4.1.2 vm . i shared a data but not display  vm is what i do?
[18:46] <maddawg3> apb1963 i had this issue before but it was a hardware problem
[18:46] <Hypnoz> anyone running vnc server on 14.04? I don't see the "remote sharing" menu in the OS anymore
[18:47] <apb1963> Jordan_U: excellent idea... any suggested options?
[18:47] <maddawg3> have you tried a different drive apb1963?
[18:47] <zetheroo> maddawg3:  http://tinypic.com/r/t0j5t4/8
[18:47] <zetheroo> DV___: what is it?
[18:47] <zetheroo> Apacer Technology
[18:47] <maddawg3> zetheroo it looks fine
[18:48] <maddawg3> it sees a mouse
[18:48] <maddawg3> so the USB is reading
[18:48] <maddawg3> it also sees all the devices
[18:48] <zetheroo> maddawg3: yes, the new USB device he plugged in is also showing up
[18:48] <Jordan_U> apb1963: I would add "-w" to do a test including writes *which will destroy all current contents on the drive*.
[18:48] <apb1963> maddawg3: yeah, I'm hoping it's not the stick but I think i'm running out of options here.  Different drive????  Not sure what you mean.  This is a usb stick... different drive for what?  A different stick?
[18:48] <maddawg3> apb1963 drive is either short for flash drive or hard drive
[18:48] <maddawg3> in this case we are talking about a flash drive
[18:48] <kirankumar> maddawg3 : sir i shared a folder but it not display in vm os . please help me
[18:49] <maddawg3> excuse me kirankumar don't know what you mean
[18:49] <maddawg3> how did you share it?
[18:49] <Hypnoz> shared with what? virtualbox?
[18:49] <apb1963>  maddawg3: hence my confusion.  This is a usb stick I'm having trouble with.
[18:49] <Gorroth> hi
[18:49] <maddawg3> are you using vmware, virtualbox
[18:49] <maddawg3> apb1963 a usb stick is a flash drive
[18:49] <cryptopsy> how to remove unused deps?
[18:49] <Gorroth> is there a way to make unity stop responing when i press the meta key in emacs?
[18:49] <maddawg3> usb stick is not what they are called
[18:50] <maddawg3> they are called flash drives
[18:50] <maddawg3> you call it a usb stick
[18:50] <Hypnoz> cryptopsy: sudo apt-get autoremove
[18:50] <Gorroth> i'll do something like press alt-p very quickly, and the alt menu pops up
[18:50] <maddawg3> and so do many, but it's not.... it's a usb flash drive
[18:50] <cryptopsy> Hypnoz: tnx
[18:50] <Jordan_U> cryptopsy: For a certain definition of "unused", "sudo apt-get autoremove".
[18:50] <kirankumar> In my Vm I shared a folder for vm but it not mounted in vm os
[18:50] <maddawg3> kirankumar what VM product
[18:50] <maddawg3> we need specifics
[18:50] <maddawg3> there are many to choose from
[18:50] <aFeijo> damn, my ubuntu 14.04 wont mount my Galaxy S4 thru the USB cable... not an original cable, does it matter?
[18:50] <kirankumar> virtual machine
[18:50] <maddawg3> virtual machine?
[18:51] <maddawg3> WHAT PRODUCT
[18:51] <Hypnoz> kirankumar: you have to be more specific about what kind of vm. virtualbox? vmware?
[18:51] <maddawg3> lol
[18:51] <cryptopsy> Jordan_U: what's the difference?
[18:51] <maddawg3> he just called it a virtual machine... no kidding... that's what a virtualization products run... virtual machines
[18:51] <apb1963> maddawg3: eh... I go back and forth... just wanted to be clear in what it was... so I'm not sure how trying a different drive would help?
[18:51] <kirankumar> for intalling a windos os.
[18:51] <cryptopsy> there is no diference
[18:52] <Hypnoz> kirankumar: who makes the software that runs the virtual machine?
[18:52] <cryptopsy> tnx again
[18:52] <maddawg3> apb1963 because a different drive would tell you if something is wrong with the drive
[18:52] <Hypnoz> kirankumar: you had to install a program then you can make the vm inside it right?
[18:52] <apb1963> Jordan_U: it's running... looks like it's going to be awhile.
[18:52] <maddawg3> the drive you are using right now apb1963 is not working
[18:52] <maddawg3> hence you need a different one
[18:52] <markolo266> how do i partition my drive as gpt?
[18:52] <markolo266> since it's 4.5 gb
[18:52] <markolo266> tb
[18:52] <maddawg3> that way we can determine if it's the drive
[18:52] <maddawg3> gpt isn't a format
[18:52] <maddawg3> it's a partition table
[18:53] <markolo266> yes
[18:53] <Hypnoz> markolo266: I use the program "parted" from the command line
[18:53] <kirankumar> in ubbuntu i installed a vm . for study
[18:54] <maddawg3> kirankumar you did not install a VM
[18:54] <Hypnoz> lol
[18:54] <maddawg3> you created a VM in a virtualization product
[18:54] <Hypnoz> round and round we go
[18:54] <maddawg3> lol
[18:54] <Hypnoz> where we stop no one knows
[18:54] <maddawg3> lmao
[18:54] <Guest48378> kirankumar, if you installed "VirtualBox", then you need this in XP vm. Please read => http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html#additions-windows
[18:54] <kirankumar> sir i installed my machine roperly
[18:54] <apb1963> maddawg3: running badblocks program... looks like it's going to be quite a while before it's done.
[18:54] <maddawg3> you are not telling us what product you used kirmankumar
[18:55] <maddawg3> you need a PRODUCT to install a VM
[18:55] <maddawg3> it's like saying i installed a .doc
[18:55] <maddawg3> if you created a .doc i'd ask what program you created it in
[18:55] <maddawg3> openoffice, ms word, etc...
[18:55] <Pici> !who
[18:55] <kirankumar> thanks for link
[18:56] <maddawg3> if you are using the VirtualBox program to run the vitual machine the directions are different than if you use vmware
[18:56]  * Guest48378 thanks Pici
[18:56] <maddawg3> apb1963 are you going to try a different usb flash drive
[18:56] <Guest48378> kirankumar, you're welcome.
[18:57] <apb1963> Jordan_U: maddawg3: thanks for the help... I'll report back when it's done... at this rate, it will be hours and hours.  0.81% done in 4 minutes.
[18:57] <maddawg3> ....
[18:57] <ronvach> can anyone enlighten me regarding why 14.04 would send a sollicited router req when booting instead of using a statically defined gateway when enabling IPv6?  I am using HSRP as first hop redundancy instead of router-advertisements, and ubuntu overrides my static gateway with what it gets from a RS, and that eventually times out and I end up with no default route for IPv6 :(
[18:58] <maddawg3> i dunno what you are even doing apb1963
[18:58] <Hypnoz> markolo266: that's kind of a complicated question though, you may want to search google for setting a gpt partition on the drive for specific commands and steps
[18:58] <maddawg3> markolo i can tell you how just give me a sec
[18:58] <maddawg3> i gotta launch gparted
[18:59] <markolo266> wat
[18:59] <apb1963> maddawg3: i'm doing a badblocks test
[18:59] <markolo266> i actually got it
[18:59] <markolo266> parted was easy enough
[18:59] <maddawg3> markolo266 i use gparted and you can create a gpt in there
[18:59] <maddawg3> oh ok
[18:59] <markolo266> i don't have a gui
[18:59] <Hypnoz> mklabel gpt is the first part I believe
[18:59] <markolo266> yea
[18:59] <maddawg3> apb1963 why would you waste the time? try a different drive
[18:59] <markolo266> right now i'm trying to make a partition that will take the entire drive
[18:59] <markolo266> with parted
[18:59] <maddawg3> if the different drive works then you know the issue is bad hardware
[19:00] <apb1963> maddawg3: what do you mean by "works" ? mounting it?
[19:00] <maddawg3> ummm yes
[19:00] <maddawg3> usually that's what it means
[19:00] <maddawg3> if the drive mounts and you can copy stuff to it then it works
[19:00] <apb1963> maddawg3: I was able to mount THIS drive before I reformatted it as NTFS.
[19:00] <maddawg3> that doesnt  mean it works
[19:01] <maddawg3> if you have just one bad block and you reformat it then it could not work
[19:01] <maddawg3> it depends what blocks are bad and where
[19:01] <lkyw> hello again, could you please help me know the command for dd rescue to recover data from a driveß
[19:01] <lkyw> ?
[19:01] <maddawg3> you dont need to do a test to determine that... you just try a different flash drive if it formats fine without an error to ntfs then you will know it's something to do with the current drive
[19:02] <maddawg3> lkyw this is a ubuntu help channel for the ubuntu OS
[19:03] <meek_geek> is ubuntu fully open ?
[19:03] <daftykins> define fully open
[19:03] <maddawg3> linux is open
[19:03] <markolo266> as open as a door
[19:03] <markolo266> when it's open
[19:03] <lkyw> maddawg3 yes, and it's a gnu tool
[19:03] <Jordan_U> meek_geek: Short answer "yes". For the long answer, define "fully open", and "ubuntu" :)
[19:03] <planetmaker> ubuntu ships with proprietary drivers and non-open trademarks
[19:03] <lkyw> maddawg3 I got help earlier here on this topic
[19:04] <cyford> hi is there a way to tune up openvpn on untangle,   my vpn clients transfer at 45kB/s  even on a Gps switch
[19:04] <maddawg3> yes but that's a seperate program they were just being helpful
[19:04] <apb1963> maddawg3: so then you're not saying to just mount a second drive, you're saying to also reformat it.  But even if I do that... it still leaves me in the dark as to what's wrong with THIS drive.  Right now it's telling me $MFTMirr does not match $MFT (record 3).  While I don't know what that is, it sounds more like a logical error rather than a physical one.
[19:04] <lkyw> can anyone help about ddrescue?
[19:05] <daftykins> lkyw: type 'man ddrescue'
[19:05] <Pici> cyford: untangle?
[19:05] <maddawg3> apb1964 yes format another drive... do exactly what you did with the drive that is not working
[19:05] <maddawg3> it doesnt tell you WHAT is wrong but it narrows it down
[19:05] <Jordan_U> lkyw: I don't think that ddrescue will help you recover your password.
[19:05] <maddawg3> you cant recover your password if it's a linux password
[19:05] <maddawg3> those are encrypted
[19:05] <maddawg3> cant be viewed or unecrypted
[19:05] <maddawg3> rule is DONT FORGET YOUR PASSWORD
[19:06] <lkyw> Jordan_U, I have some hardware which might have a small chance
[19:06] <maddawg3> in the event you do you can use another account to change it or a rescue shell
[19:06] <Jordan_U> maddawg3: Just a nitpick, but they're "hashed", not "encrypted".
[19:06] <Pici> maddawg3: can you please ease-up on the enter key?
[19:06] <maddawg3> sorry my screen is really really small so i cant see the whole line it goes off the screen and my resolution wont go smaller
[19:06] <maddawg3> err higher i meant
[19:07] <lkyw> Jordan_U, on these devices I might have saved the password, that's why
[19:07] <maddawg3> yes hashed sorry Jordan_U
[19:07] <maddawg3> lkyw what password are you trying to recover?
[19:07] <Jordan_U> lkyw: I thought that the password had been wiped from all drives it had been saved to.
[19:07] <apb1963> maddawg3: ok, just for the sake of conversation... lets say I get the identical error on the second drive.... what info. does that provide?
[19:07] <lkyw> maddawg3, encrypted partition password
[19:08] <maddawg3> apb1963 it says there is something wrong with how you are formatting it and we need to look into that more
[19:08] <planetmaker> he. If there was a way to recover it other than remembering it, then the encryption would not be worth using
[19:08] <maddawg3> lkyw then you are screwed if it's encrypted
[19:08] <gaurav_1> any site for basic java question for coding which covers every topic in java ...?
[19:08] <lkyw> Jordan_U, yes, but I want to try...maddawg3, believe me you're the 209th person I heard this from.
[19:08] <Jordan_U> lkyw: ddrescue is for recovering data that was saved successfully to the drive, but where the drive's hardware is now failing to read that data. On a working drive, you won't see any difference between what ddrescue reads from the drive and what dd, or cat, or "mount" reads from the drive.
[19:08] <meek_geek> Jordan_U, is it opensource ? or opensource with close components? I know Linux comes with non-free firmware but other than that ?
[19:09] <maddawg3> apb1963 if it still doesn't work then we can look at the commands you use to format as well as the products, but from what you are saying you are doing everything right, therefore the only possibility would be the drive you are trying to format
[19:09] <maddawg3> apb1963: have you not done logic in school?
[19:09] <Pici> gaurav_1: ##java   but you will need to be reigstered/identified to join see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration and #freenode for help with that
[19:09] <maddawg3> lkyw: you are hearing that because you cant
[19:10] <gaurav_1> any site for basic java question for coding which covers every topic in java ...?
[19:10] <lkyw> Jordan_U, oh, ok. it's been a long time since I last used dd. I'd forgotten
[19:10] <maddawg3> ddrescue copies blocks and tries to reassemble them to recover your file lkyw... it doesnt usually recover EVERY block, but can recover most of them
[19:10] <maddawg3> if you have an encrypted partition you need EVERY SINGLE block and that is not something ddrescue can do lkyw
[19:11] <maddawg3> i'm a forensics major... trust me i know
[19:11] <maddawg3> recovering encryption keys from a drive is a near impossible task unless you have some serious money and time
[19:11] <Jordan_U> meek_geek: I think the simplest way to investigate what non-free components are included in Ubuntu is to look at a "completely Free" distribution like gNewSense (whose website unfortunately seems to be down at the moment).
[19:11] <maddawg3> and not to mention really fast and powerful computers, and even then you'll probably only have a 50% chance of it working
[19:11] <cyford> Pici,   sorry wrong channel
[19:12] <apb1963> maddawg3: school was so long ago I don't remember ;)  I suspect that if we look into how I'm formatting it, you're going to suggest I use gparted to do so...
[19:12] <nashant> How do I find out what package contains a program?
[19:12] <meek_geek> Jordan_U, Trisquel / Parabola are perfect examples
[19:12] <lkyw> maddawg3, you mean a single file is recovered from its pieces (named blocks)
[19:12] <lkyw> ?
[19:12] <meek_geek> but i want to know about Ubuntu as well
[19:12] <maddawg3> apb1963 well i use gparted personally, but that's not the ONLY program the can reformat drives.... it was a suggestion cuz it's one i'm very familiar with
[19:12] <maddawg3> lkyw yes
[19:12] <Gorroth> omg java, why can't you die
[19:13] <EpicRainbow> What is the Ubuntu help subchannel?
[19:13] <daftykins> !ot | Gorroth
[19:13] <maddawg3> apb1963 from what you told me you did it sounds like you know how to reformat a drive and if you used gparted and got the same issue my next step would be to try a dfferent drive and see if you get the same issue
[19:13] <apb1963> maddawg3: I understand...  does gparted rely on the OS's underlying tools, or does it use it's own algorhythms to write to the disk?
[19:13] <maddawg3> if the other drive gives the same issue then maybe there is a software issue
[19:14] <lkyw> Jordan_U, these drives contained the needed file, but the file was wiped once. can any tool be tried to bring it back?
[19:14] <daftykins> apb1963: have you looked at the SMART data of this strange disk?
[19:14] <apb1963> Jordan_U: so far, 0/0/0 errors.  4.25% done.
[19:14] <maddawg3> apb1963 not entirely sure, but i believe it uses it's own thing
[19:14] <Gorroth> Oh, okay.  I guess we will continue not answer Ubuntu questions here, since most of the people don't have the answers.  You probably would've just been better off not responding to my comment, btw.
[19:15] <nashant> I don't seem to have the dialog command, and I can't install it
[19:15] <apb1963> daftykins: strange?  It's a 128 GB USB 2.0 stick/drive.  Does it even _have_ SMART data?
[19:16] <daftykins> apb1963: oh a flash drive, ok... i didn't see the earlier part of this conversation
[19:16] <Jordan_U> lkyw: No software tool. Normal software can only read what the drive gives it, which will always be the last data successfully written (or garbage, if the drive is failing). I've heard claims that fancy forensic tools (taking the drive apart in a clean room) can recover overwritten data.
[19:16] <llutz> !info dialog  | nashant
[19:16] <EpicRainbow> I need some help with Grub2. It works fine but the Grub screen resolution is in the 600's. I just installed the latest Nvidia driver and everything is smooth now too. I already edited /etc/default/grub and changed GRUB_GFXMODE to 1920x1080. After that I did sudo update-grub. However the screen resolution hasn't changed. How can I fix that?
[19:16] <nashant> llutz: Well in that case my apt seems to be broken.
[19:17] <user1345> are you back testdr?
[19:17] <maddawg3> daftykins yea it's a flash drive... he reformatted from exfat to ntfs
[19:17] <nashant> nope
[19:17] <nashant> fixed
[19:17] <maddawg3> but he keeps getting errors mounting it... i suggested trying to use a different flash drive to see if he had the same issue but we keep going around in circles
[19:17] <nashant> A few reboots and it's now ok it would seem
[19:17] <aFeijo> damn, my ubuntu 14.04 wont mount my Galaxy S4 thru the USB cable... not an original cable, does it matter?
[19:18] <lkyw> Jordan_U, maybe the tools you refer to are those about which I talked with people today. scrambling the drive, inserting the flash in a reader, getting the raw data out, and sorting it. is it what you refer to?
[19:19] <Jordan_U> lkyw: So if you're desparate, you can pay a *lot* of mony (likely at least in the thousands USD) to someone who will almost certainly still fail to retrieve your old password or keyring from some unknown portion of the drive. But realize that no matter how much money you spend, you're still much more likely to come out of it with much less money and no more data.
[19:20] <planetmaker> ask the NSA for their backup copy of your drive or password ;)
[19:20] <Under-C-Capt> anybody have some insight on wireless not connecting automatically after suspend?
[19:20] <lkyw> Jordan_U, do you mean this for the raw data method I wrote about?
[19:21] <Under-C-Capt> i tried checking "available to all users" and havent tried to suspend the box yet
[19:21] <apb1963> daftykins: My original message:  so I reformatted my brand new128GB USB 2.0 stick from exFAT to NTFS... 6+ hours later, it said it was successful. Then I ran fsck on it. I get "$MFTMirr does not match $MFT (record 3). Remount failed: Input/output error" Any ideas? ubuntu 12.04
[19:21] <lkyw> planetmaker, if you can guarantee me that they have a copy of every hard drive, I can do that
[19:22] <maddawg3> well they wont do it
[19:22] <maddawg3> lol even if they did
[19:22] <planetmaker> sorry, I live in a target country of NSA. Not a source country
[19:22] <Under-C-Capt> ah i see I need a more "n00bish" channel any suggestions?  I'm new to this server
[19:22] <maddawg3> that would mean they'd have to admit they have all your files, which they very well may, but if you asked for backup copies they'd tell you to take a hike and that you are crazy
[19:22] <apb1963> soooooo tired of my irc client continually crashing :(
[19:22] <daftykins> apb1963: not sure that running fsck on NTFS is wise in the first instance.
[19:23] <apb1963> daftykins: fsck.ntfs
[19:23] <maddawg3> i still vote trying another drive
[19:24] <lkyw> Jordan_U, other people haven't been so hopeless about searching the drive. now we may be really getting out of ubuntu terrain, but I'm curious, because you also said that you heard them as "claims". if we refer to the same thing.
[19:24] <maddawg3> if the other drive works then we know it's a problem with the failed drive, therefore we can either figure out what the problem is OR just say screw it
[19:24] <planetmaker> lkyw, anyway, to restore physically overwritten data requires attaching a new read-out method to the drive which does not read 1 or 0 but reads the values in between for each bit. That might give later an idea as to what was ther prior to the last write. Or maybe not. Anyway, much money and effort involved
[19:24] <maddawg3> flash drives are a dime a dozen these days
[19:24] <bhuvan_> hi friends.. i need help regarding my sound drivers... where can i post my query?
[19:24] <maddawg3> in fact i found an 8GB flash at school yesterday
[19:24] <Jordan_U> Under-C-Capt: This channel is perfectly fine for new users. If nobody answers your question it just means that nobody that's active at the moment knows the answer.
[19:24] <apb1963> maddawg3: how much do you pay for a 128 GB drive?
[19:24] <maddawg3> bhuvan right here
[19:24] <TBotNik> All, can not get movies to play on my kubuntu 12.04 LTS desktop.  Wrote this up at:  http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-linux/201626-video-player-2.html#post951814
[19:24] <Under-C-Capt> oic lol
[19:25] <bhuvan_> hi, im facing an issue with trusty.. aplay -l doesnt list my sound card
[19:25] <maddawg3> apb1963 those are like maybe $50 at bestbuy
[19:25] <Guest48378> apb1963, "... $MFTMirr does not match $MFT (record 3).  While I don't know what that is,  ..." => likely logical error (just reformat) => http://www.ntfs.com/ntfs-mft.htm
[19:25] <Under-C-Capt> I am quickly rediscovering this linux flavor and I love it more and more the more I use it
[19:25] <bhuvan_> neither it is visible in the sound preferences
[19:25] <TBotNik> All, hope someone out here know how to unravel all the player/codec issues, cause never tried any AV stuff before!
[19:25] <maddawg3> microcenter has them for less
[19:25] <lkyw> can the money point be bettered if one has access to university?
[19:25] <apb1963> maddawg3: you must be loaded!  I'm poor.
[19:25] <maddawg3> Guest48378 he's done that many times
[19:26] <maddawg3> apb1963... ummm no... $50 is less than a tank of gas
[19:26] <planetmaker> lkyw, no. What would a university help there?
[19:26] <daftykins> apb1963: i still don't think that's wise. rather than be concerned with its' condition under Linux, reformat it in Windows then copy data to and from it - if it's ok, fine - if not, bigger problems.
[19:26] <maddawg3> but either way your drive might be under warranty
[19:26] <lkyw> planetmaker, the infrastructure, maybe
[19:26] <planetmaker> you need an IT forensics lab and specialist. As said: prices are in the k€ for these services
[19:26] <maddawg3> apb1963 if you try another drive and the reformating works then something is clearly wrong with the 128gb
[19:27] <maddawg3> that's what I do planetmaker
[19:27] <maddawg3> and i told him that recovering that stuff is not something he can do at home and even if he hired one of us i cant even give him a 50% guarentee
[19:27] <planetmaker> then you got a prospective customer here :D
[19:27] <maddawg3> guarantee*
[19:27] <apb1963> Guest48378: it sounds like a logical error to me too.
[19:28] <sarahS> what is the best practice for creating scheduled bootable backups of my box with ubuntu 14.04?
[19:28] <maddawg3> apb1963 that can also happen with a hardware error not just logical
[19:28] <sarahS> lots of conflicting info on the web...
[19:28] <bhuvan_> im facing an issue with trusty.. aplay -l doesnt list my sound card, nor it is visible in the sound preferences.. while booting it says hda-intel no audio codecs found
[19:28] <Under-C-Capt> argg my frikken domain name still doesnt work w/ me olde google site!!
[19:28] <maddawg3> if it's losing connection it can happen
[19:28] <apb1963> daftykins: I did that first...   hang on... let me find the error that returned...
[19:28] <maddawg3> sarahS what are you using to back it up?
[19:28] <maddawg3> there are lots of "correct" ways
[19:29] <sarahS> nothing yet....so far thinking rsync
[19:29] <maddawg3> hence why you are getting conflicting stuff online
[19:29] <sarahS> but will need to figure out how to handle grub etc
[19:29] <sarahS> i just wanted opinions as to what the best strategy is
[19:30] <apb1963> sarahS: Look into Back In Time...  it uses rsync as the back end.  Makes life a lot easier... took me a few minutes to figure out but now I'm reasonably happy with it's ease of use.
[19:30] <Guest48378> apb1963, I found this, see #5 => http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1333205
[19:30] <sarahS> apb1963: can it be scheduled? cron job?
[19:30] <apb1963> sarahS: it does it for you automagically.
[19:30] <braindrop> sarahS: I'm a fan of rsync for backups of any kind. very powerful tool, requires some work to make it do exactly what you want
[19:31] <sarahS> thanks....reading up on it now.
[19:31] <Under-C-Capt> automagically lol I like that
[19:31] <maddawg3> see look at that article apb193... hardware fault
[19:31] <sarahS> braindrop: me too, but this box is more important than my personal ones....so I'm kinda scared to trust myself working directly with rsync
[19:31] <maddawg3> if you want to know if it's a hardware fault then try another drive
[19:32] <TBotNik> Repeating All, can not get movies to play on my kubuntu 12.04 LTS desktop.  Wrote this up at:  http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-linux/201626-video-player-2.html#post951814
[19:32] <TBotNik> All, hope someone out here know how to unravel all the player/codec issues, cause never tried any AV stuff before!
[19:32] <apb1963> maddawg3: so far, I'm getting 0 errors from badblocks program.  Only 6% done though.
[19:32] <maddawg3> sarahs I wish i could help but i dont make bootable copies... other than the snapshots my vmware server takes..  i have my files sftp to a backup location internally tho
[19:33] <maddawg3> apb1963: again WHY ARE YOU WASTING YOUR TIME? try another drive
[19:33] <maddawg3> that will answer it
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> TBotNik, Have you installed the restricted-extras?
[19:33] <maddawg3> if the other drive works then it's a hardware issue with the 128GB drive... THEN you can spend hours scanning or testing it with badblocks if that makes you happy
[19:33] <sarahS> this is for a server...so if it goes down, (which we have had happen) we want to be able to just swap it out immediately and boot from the backup
[19:33] <sarahS> and have most of our state intact
[19:33] <Under-C-Capt> I've dealt with an issue like that before w/ the hard drive and sich...these days its usually best to just get a new hard drive storage is so cheap these days
[19:34] <maddawg3> sarahS hence why i use vmware snapshots
[19:34] <maddawg3> they are instant and automatic
[19:34] <grv> i m trying to resister on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration but can't recieve any email by freenode on my typed mail address on the command
[19:34] <Jordan_U> lkyw: What data is so important that you are still trying to hold on to hope of recovery?
[19:34] <maddawg3> lkyw have you tried EnCase?
[19:34] <wilee-nilee> grv, Ask #freenode
[19:34] <lkyw> Jordan_U everything I have.
[19:34] <maddawg3> that MIGHT work, but it's like $3k to buy
[19:34] <lkyw> maddawg3, never heard of it
[19:35] <maddawg3> and you'll need a VERY long time
[19:35] <maddawg3> it's forensics software that we use in police work and fbi work
[19:35] <grv> i m trying to resister https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration but not receiving any mail from freenode
[19:35] <maddawg3> but it takes training to use
[19:35] <grv> i m trying to resister https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration but not receiving any mail from freenode
[19:35] <maddawg3> stop repeating yourself
[19:35] <Under-C-Capt> aic it appears there is no scrollback on my irc client...using plain old XChat...any suggestions for improvement all?
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> !patience | grv
[19:35] <grv> i m trying to resister https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration but not receiving any mail from freenode
[19:35] <sarahS> maddawg3: that's an interesting strategy....but if the vmware host goes down (say a failed drive), you would have to rebuild that and reconfigure the dns / static ip etc
[19:36] <Jordan_U> lkyw: What would you say is the most important part of that everything?
[19:36] <sarahS> no?
[19:36] <maddawg3> sarahS vmware has redundancy
[19:36] <apb1963> maddawg3:  I just read it... I don't see where it says anything about it being hardware.... in fact, it explicitly says it's software - as the MFT is the Master File Table
[19:36] <maddawg3> we have 32 different hosts and it's a cluster
[19:36] <sarahS> for the guest sure
[19:36] <lkyw> Jordan_U , what difference would it make? when the data is not recoverable?
[19:36] <maddawg3> apb1963: wow... did you forget to read ?
[19:36] <maddawg3> NTFS is either inconsistent, or there is a hardware fault, or it's a
[19:36] <maddawg3> SoftRAID/FakeRAID hardware
[19:36] <sarahS> but the machine the vmware is hosted on is the weak link there
[19:37] <maddawg3> there are 3 possibilities... seeing as you dont use RAID on it that cant be the issue
[19:37] <gaurav_1> i m trying to resister https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration but not receiving any mail from freenode
[19:37] <gaurav_1> i m trying to resister https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration but not receiving any mail from freenode
[19:37] <maddawg3> if NTFS is inconsistent then MAYBE it will be inconsistent on the other drive
[19:37] <Pici> gaurav_1: please ask in #freenode
[19:37] <Jordan_U> gaurav_1: Please join #freenode for questions about / problems with registering.
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> gaurav_1, Stop repeating go to #freenode and address it there
[19:37] <maddawg3> if it's a hardware fault then the other drive will fix that
[19:38] <maddawg3> MFT does not mean it isnt hardware
[19:38] <maddawg3> you need hardware for an NFT to even work apb1963
[19:39] <maddawg3> it isn't just magically there, if there is something wrong with the drive then there will be something wrong with the MFT
[19:39] <maddawg3> i dont know how else to explain it apb1963 and frankly i dont know why you wont just take the 3 seconds it's gonna take to try another drive
[19:39] <robotdevil> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=867076 is this still relevant ?
[19:39] <maddawg3> JUST TRY IT
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> robotdevil, IN what way?
[19:40] <robotdevil> its quite dated
[19:41] <K1rk> Hello is there a way to define a custom /etc/cron.d/ path?  I'd like to make my own custom /etc/cron.Xyz/ path that can contain working Cron files.  I want /etc/cron.d/ to continue to function.
[19:41] <wilee-nilee> robotdevil, In general for conky yes, however there are thousands probably millions of links on the web for conky.
[19:41] <apb1963> maddawg3: Formatting takes longer than 3 seconds.... I started the badblocks programming and I have a mental block against throwing away time already invested.  It takes 6+ hours (I went to bed after that so I don't have the actual time) to format a 128GB disk...  OTH, I do have an 8GB drive, but I'd still have to kill the job in progress to do it.
[19:42] <apb1963> s/programming/program/
[19:42] <wilee-nilee> robotdevil, Pretty basic stuff, that wont brick your computer so not much to worry about.
[19:42] <maddawg3> true apb1963 but if it doesnt work then imagine you'll be saving 6+ hours by not running badblocks
[19:42] <maddawg3> cuz then we'll know it's not the drive
[19:43] <maddawg3> if we discover it is the drive then call the manufacture and get a warranty replacement.. usually they have a 1yr warranty on those things
[19:44] <robotdevil> wilee-nilee: yes had it running before. Used a sample.rc before thou, would like a from scratch.
[19:44] <maddawg3> like a mecahnic isn't gonna just rip your engine out if you say your car doesnt work cuz that'd take too long
[19:44] <maddawg3> they'd start with the easy solutions then go to the more difficult one
[19:44] <robotdevil> also need to know how to load it boot without using the DE autostart option
[19:45] <maddawg3> also if badblocks comes back as failed and didnt repair anything you will have wasted all the time scanning a drive that was unfixable in the first place
[19:46] <maddawg3> if you try another drive and it works then you'll know for sure something is wrong with the 128GB... ONLY then you can choose to run badblocks to see if you can either figure it out or repair it
[19:46] <maddawg3> if you cant then get a warranty replacement... these are the logical steps to try...
[19:46] <TBotNik> wilee-nilee: Never saw any HOWTO mentioning such a thing!
[19:46] <apb1963> maddawg3: Unfortunately I don't speak or read Chinese, so I don't know who the manufacturer is... got it off ebay... and while I could in fact return it, and will likely end up doing so... I think it's not unreasonable to run a test program on the drive that's not working, rather than trying to make assumptions based on what a DIFFERENT drive does or does not do.
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> robotdevil> also need to know how to load it boot without using the DE autostart option Start at boot that makes no sense.
[19:47] <apb1963> maddawg3: ultimately, I'll do both.
[19:47] <maddawg3> apb1963 that makes zero sense... you dont know if it's drive issue or not at this point
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> TBotNik, Context please.
[19:48] <maddawg3> for all we know something could be going wrong with the formatting process, but we don't know that cuz you didnt try to format another drive
[19:48] <robotdevil> wilee-nilee: it need to know where to load it instead of in using the desktop environments auto start feature
[19:48] <maddawg3> if you format ANOTHER drive successfully then we can rule out the software messing up the format
[19:48] <maddawg3> if it's a software problem THEN we can help... if it's a hardware issue we cant
[19:49] <robotdevil> wilee-nilee: read from an /etc folder I imagine
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> TBotNik, Ah the restricted extras it is in wiki's.
[19:49] <apb1963> maddawg3: but it's 10% done!
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> robotdevil, This a school assignment?
[19:49] <maddawg3> ok then come back when it's done
[19:49] <maddawg3> clearly we cant help you now
[19:50] <robotdevil> wilee-nilee: ??? :-)
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> TBotNik, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> robotdevil, Simple question.
[19:50] <maddawg3> i also fail to see why you can format a drive while that is scanning
[19:50] <maddawg3> do you not have more than 1USB port available?
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> robotdevil, I asked as we don;t do homework here, sounds like homework.
[19:51] <apb1963> maddawg3: I do... but if I use a different port, then we've introduced an additional variable.
[19:51] <robotdevil> wilee-nilee: thought you might know, sorry
[19:51] <apb1963> maddawg3: maybe there's something wrong with the port... not the drive.
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> robotdevil, And to me the lack of an answer points to homework. ;)
[19:51] <maddawg3> did you try the drive in another port then?
[19:51] <apb1963> maddawg3: no, didn't think of that until just now
[19:52] <wilee-nilee> and how you have worded you requests
[19:52] <apb1963> maddawg3: and quite honestly, I'm a bit afraid of formatting a second one... if it fails, I may end up with TWO unusable drives.
[19:52] <maddawg3> you can just format the other one back using another computer
[19:53] <guywithquestions> hello?
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> guywithquestions, goodbye?
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[19:53] <apb1963> maddawg3: I don't have another computer.
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> guywithquestions, no need for hello's state the support issue to the channel for help.
[19:54] <guywithquestions> sorry it was taking awhile to load yall
[19:56] <arvat> Hi evrybody
[19:57] <amriunix> arvat what's up !!! :)
[19:58] <lmat> when I run VNC server, it slows things down a lot. Also, the update is painfully slow (even when the viewer is running on the same machine!)
[19:58] <lmat> I'm running Unity. Are there any tricks I should be making use of?
[19:59] <pdo_fn14> Feels weird in firefox, liking I'm affected with scam.
[19:59] <guywithquestions> can i take android off my phone all the way and then put ubuntu on??? i dont want android on at all
[19:59] <amriunix> lmat a you use the root per ???
[19:59] <lmat> amriunix: I don't understand that question :(
[20:00] <lmat> amriunix: What root?
[20:00] <amriunix> guywithquestions yeah you can !!! ;)
[20:00] <apb1963> maddawg3: what's interesting is that it formatted sucessfully.... normally I'd just start using it but ended up doing the fsck...   Heck, normally I'd just use it out of the box...
[20:00] <Daani> Has anyone encountered this problem when trying to install ubuntu instead of windows 7, i have a bootable usb, ubuntu install files on it, restart my computer with the correct setting of booting from usb. Computer says "Reboot and Select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key"
[20:00] <Daani> i made the usb bootable in windows 7
[20:01] <amriunix> lmat i mean have you run the vnc server with the root permission ????
[20:01] <planetmaker> you need to select "boot from usb" in your bios, Daani
[20:01] <lmat> amriunix: Nope. Should I?
[20:01] <pdo_fn14> Clicking some query in Ctrl+K, but how to revert it back to no redirected anymore
[20:01] <Daani> planetmaker, i have set the 1st boot device as my removable device(usb)
[20:01] <amriunix> lmat yeah dude !!!
[20:02] <lmat> amriunix: okay, just a sec ^_^
[20:02] <compdoc> lmat, you should be able to run vncserver as your user
[20:02] <lmat> compdoc: I am able to.
[20:02] <guywithquestions> armunix, how do i do all that?
[20:02] <lmat> compdoc: It runs fine....except that it's *painfully* slow.
[20:03] <Jordan_U> Daani: How did you get ubuntu to "install files on" your USB drive?
[20:03] <amriunix> lmat every is good ???
[20:03] <lmat> compdoc: The server slows down tremendously, and it takes many seconds to get the image back to the client (even though the client is on the same machine!)
[20:03] <lmat> amriunix: NO! It's exactly the same ^_^
[20:03] <compdoc> lmat, you use an encripted tunnel, like a vpn?
[20:03] <lmat> no. It's the same machine!
[20:03] <amriunix> lmat every think is good ???
[20:04] <Daani> Jordan_U:  sorry, the spelling was not correct. the files from the image are placed on the usb
[20:04] <lmat> I don't know about every think, but the performance is very bad.
[20:04] <compdoc> running the client from the same machine might be the roblem
[20:04] <compdoc> problem
[20:04] <lmat> compdoc: hmm
[20:04] <lmat> compdoc: Does it matter if it's a virtual machine? ^_^
[20:05] <amriunix> lmat may be the performance of the picture or what ????
[20:05] <lmat> It didn't used to be a problem. I had run this before and it worked pretty well :(
[20:05] <guywithquestions> armunix, how do i do that?
[20:05] <maddawg3> Daani that's not how you create a bootable USB
[20:05] <amriunix> guywithquestions bro what kind of mobile device you have ????
[20:05] <lkyw> could you please tell me how I denote a file location on terminal: for ex. if my ubuntu username is lkyw, would this be true: /dev/sda1/lkyw/Documents/file.txt ?
[20:05] <maddawg3> are you trying to create a bootable USB with the ubuntu live image on it daani?
[20:06] <compdoc> gotta reboot
[20:06] <Jordan_U> Daani: You can't just copy files to a USB drive to make the drive bootable. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[20:06] <planetmaker> Daani, dd if=/path/to/boot_iso of=/dev/usbdevice
[20:06] <lmat> lkyw: no
[20:06] <maddawg3> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[20:06] <maddawg3> oops
[20:06] <planetmaker> worked for me
[20:07] <maddawg3> Jordan_U beat me to it
[20:07] <lmat> lkyw: You may be looking for  ~/Documents/file.txt ?
[20:07] <SkoobyNoob> wasup peep
[20:07] <SkoobyNoob> s
[20:07] <wilee-nilee> Daani, What app did you use to load the usb in windows?
[20:07] <lmat> lkyw: your home directory (~) is at  /home/$USER
[20:07] <lkyw> lmat, what would be the correct one then? I need a location which contains "/dev/sda1"
[20:07] <maddawg3> he didnt wilee-nilee he just copied them from the image and flagged the drive as bootable
[20:07] <lmat> lkyw: Why ?
[20:07] <wilee-nilee> SkoobyNoob, Do you have a support issue for the channel?
[20:07] <guywithquestions> i have a virgin mobile kyrocera phone
[20:07] <maddawg3> he cant do that
[20:07] <lmat> lkyw: (In other words, you can't do that, but maybe you can do what you want in another way ^_^)
[20:07] <lkyw> lmat, sorry, it must be /dev/sdb1
[20:07] <SkoobyNoob> yes
[20:07] <lmat> lkyw: don't matter ^_^
[20:07] <SkoobyNoob> i have plenty of support issues
[20:08] <maddawg3> ok SkoobyNoob.. then just ask
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> SkoobyNoob, Than spit it out in detail to the channel please
[20:08] <lmat> lkyw: /dev/sdb1 is a file (if you have a sane linux), not a directory.
[20:08] <lkyw> lmat, I'd like to show a file location of an external drive on terminal
[20:08] <SkoobyNoob> well first
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> SkoobyNoob, I one post and stop with the comments.
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> In*
[20:08] <lkyw> that is what I want to do
[20:08] <SkoobyNoob> what kind of support you guys serve?
[20:08] <maddawg3> ... free support
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> SkoobyNoob, Ubuntu support
[20:08] <SkoobyNoob> ok badass
[20:09] <wilee-nilee> SkoobyNoob, Read the channel header
[20:09] <maddawg3> free ubuntu support... not emotional
[20:09] <SkoobyNoob> yeah
[20:09] <SkoobyNoob> i did
[20:09] <SkoobyNoob> but you come across some wierd channels
[20:09] <maddawg3> then why did you ask?
[20:09] <wilee-nilee> SkoobyNoob, Dude you are spammimg the channel get to the issue and post it all in one post.
[20:09] <SkoobyNoob> im new to ubuntu
[20:09] <lmat> lkyw: Then you need to mount that drive.
[20:09] <SkoobyNoob> im new to linux
[20:09] <lmat> lkyw: check   ls /media/$USER
[20:09] <SkoobyNoob> actually
[20:10] <wilee-nilee> off to ignore with yah
[20:10] <SkoobyNoob> but i been picking uppretty good this past week
[20:10] <maddawg3> OK THEN ASK THE DAMN QUESTION SKOOBYNOOB, OR LEAVE
[20:10] <qin> !caps | maddawg3
[20:10] <qin> oh
[20:11] <Jordan_U> maddawg3: Please drop the caps and watch your language.
[20:11] <lkyw> lmat, it lists the name of the drive
[20:11] <lmat> lkyw: okay, then get a listing in there!
[20:11] <lmat> lkyw: In other words, that's what you're looking for
[20:11] <lkyw> lmat, thank you! but it is not what I need
[20:11] <guywithquestions> hey does anybody know how to totally erase android on a phone and then put on ubuntu? i dont want it on at all
[20:11] <lmat> lkyw: ls  /media/$USER/<name of drive>/<whatever directory you want>/<file>
[20:12] <SkoobyNoob> i sorry dude im at work
[20:12] <SkoobyNoob> and i hae to do other things while im doing this also
[20:12] <OerHeks> !phone | guywithquestions
[20:12] <SkoobyNoob> i want to change a bluetooth address
[20:12] <SkoobyNoob> i downloaded bluez
[20:12] <maddawg3> change  a bluetooth address ?
[20:12] <SkoobyNoob> the latest version
[20:13] <SkoobyNoob> yes
[20:13] <maddawg3> i'm not sure what you mean
[20:13] <lkyw> lmat, now it became clear for me, it works, thank you!
[20:13] <SkoobyNoob> change the mac address
[20:13] <lmat> lkyw: I'm glad and happy and extatic and excited for you!
[20:13] <lmat> lkyw: I think I'll go listen to Simon and Garfunkle now
[20:13] <nashant> I don't suppose anyone can help me getting HDMI audio from my nvidia GT210 can they? I'm currently messing around with pacmd and pactl but I have no idea what I'm doing
[20:13] <SkoobyNoob> so i can hook up a headset that
[20:13] <lkyw> lmat, good for you! I hope you keep that spirit for the remaining hours
[20:14] <SkoobyNoob> uses a dongle
[20:14] <SkoobyNoob> but i wanna hook it up to my tablet
[20:14] <maddawg3> skoobynoob first... why do you need to change the MAC address for that? second I'm not sure what bluez is, 3rd have you looked here: http://blog.petrilopia.net/hacking/change-your-bluetooth-device-mac-address/
[20:14] <Jordan_U> SkoobyNoob: What is your end goal? (Please try to answer on a single line, to avoid cluttering the channel).
[20:14] <jcabb> SkoobyNoob, bdaddr should do it
[20:15] <SkoobyNoob> yes i have bdaddr
[20:15] <SkoobyNoob> well my tablet wont catch my headset
[20:15] <maddawg3> did you read that information SkoobyNoob?
[20:15] <SkoobyNoob> i figure since it needs a dongle
[20:15] <maddawg3> huh?
[20:16] <SkoobyNoob> and i know you can change the mac address of a sixasis controller
[20:16] <SkoobyNoob> so i  figure you could do that on almost any device
[20:16] <maddawg3> first your bluetooth needs to support HSP profile
[20:16] <maddawg3> why does the MAC address have anything to do with the headset skoobynoob
[20:17] <SkoobyNoob> because that is the address of the bluettooth
[20:17] <maddawg3> ....
[20:17] <maddawg3> that makes no sense
[20:17] <SkoobyNoob> bluetooth mac address
[20:17] <Jordan_U> SkoobyNoob: So your and goal is to get your bluetooth headset to work with your tablet? And your tablet is running Ubuntu?
[20:17] <maddawg3> why does that matter for connecting to the headset
[20:17] <maddawg3> the mac address is just a hardware identifier
[20:17] <SkoobyNoob> no my tablet doesnt run ubuntu
[20:18] <maddawg3> well then you are definitley in the wrong channel
[20:18] <maddawg3> lol
[20:18] <SkoobyNoob> im using bdaddr in ubuntu
[20:18] <maddawg3> .....
[20:18] <SkoobyNoob> in my laptop
[20:18] <SkoobyNoob> you guys are like desperate or something
[20:18] <maddawg3> well you cant change the mac address with another computer
[20:18] <SkoobyNoob> instead of helping
[20:18] <maddawg3> the mac address is hardcoded... however you can FAKE one with ubuntu, but that wont matter if you are moving it to antoehr machine
[20:19] <SkoobyNoob> ok whywould you be able o change the address of the ps3 controller?
[20:19] <maddawg3> what?
[20:19] <maddawg3> you cant
[20:19] <SkoobyNoob> using ubuntu
[20:19] <SkoobyNoob> i have
[20:19] <maddawg3> you can only change it on the computer that it's connected to... the PS3 controller will still have the same MAC
[20:19] <maddawg3> no you changed it on the computer it was paired with
[20:19] <maddawg3> NOT on the device it self
[20:19] <Jordan_U> SkoobyNoob: Why do you think that changing the MAC address of your headset will make it work in your tablet? Are you trying to follow some guide?
[20:19]  * jcabb laughs...
[20:20] <SkoobyNoob> then why would you have to connect the remote
[20:20] <SkoobyNoob> i think you dont know what you are talking about
[20:20] <maddawg3> the MAC is hard coded by the manufacture to the device... you can tell the OS to see it as a different one, but if you take your dongle and connect it to another machine it will be whatever the manufacture gave it
[20:20] <wilee-nilee> SkoobyNoob, This is not twitter there are protocols, and not having an nattitude is one, reading questions and answering is two, and not spamming the channel with BS id third.
[20:20] <SkoobyNoob> i would suggest you research before you try mocking me
[20:20] <maddawg3> ummm actually i do
[20:20]  * Okaria breaks out the popcorn
[20:21] <maddawg3> omg someone ban skoobynoob he is being helped and acting like a bieb
[20:21] <SkoobyNoob> if the address on the remote isnt changed
[20:21] <SkoobyNoob> ?
[20:21] <SkoobyNoob> then why do i have to connect it to my pc give it the addres of my tablet
[20:21] <maddawg3> that was broken english
[20:22] <maddawg3> what ?
[20:22] <SkoobyNoob> let me give you a link
[20:22] <Jordan_U> maddawg3: Please don't be over dramatic, and certainly don't resort to name calling. I am an op and I am aware of the situation.
[20:22] <Pici> SkoobyNoob: Can you please start over? What are you trying to accomplish.  (and please stop pressing enter between every 2 words)
[20:23] <maddawg3> SkoobyNoob yes a link would help, and also understanding what bluetooth dongle you are using and with what headset
[20:23] <maddawg3> we have no information to go on... but i can tell you I don't see how changing a MAC address allows you to connect a headset so maybe explaining where you got that information
[20:23] <SkoobyNoob> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1808903
[20:24] <SkoobyNoob> well if changing the mac id of the ps3 remote
[20:24] <SkoobyNoob> i can control my tablet
[20:24] <SkoobyNoob> with it
[20:25] <SkoobyNoob> then i should be able to listen to music
[20:25] <SkoobyNoob> through this headset
[20:25] <SkoobyNoob> if i can program it to connect to my tablet
[20:25] <SkoobyNoob> without the dongle
[20:25] <jcabb> SkoobyNoob, type out your sentences!  your 4 words a line crap is getting old...
[20:26] <SkoobyNoob> damn
[20:26] <bitcoinassassin> hi. I would like to be able to boot into my 12LTS install and copy /move everything from my encrypted home partition to another drive and then never do that again. here are details http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7590093/
[20:26] <maddawg3> SkoobyNoob first that is for connecting a PS3 controller not a headset, and second that's for use on an android
[20:26] <maddawg3> we are not an android channel
[20:26] <SkoobyNoob> yes
[20:26] <SkoobyNoob> i know
[20:26] <bitcoinassassin> ... or you could just do what I did and ignore SkoobyNoob....
[20:26] <SkoobyNoob> it is for andorid
[20:26] <maddawg3> yes ... we are ubuntu
[20:26] <SkoobyNoob> but i you use a pc
[20:27] <bitcoinassassin> we are legion. expect us.
[20:27] <maddawg3> try in "#Android"
[20:27] <SkoobyNoob> i dont need android
[20:27] <planetmaker> bitcoinassassin, so... just mount both drives and cp -rp /path/drive1 /path/drive2 ?
[20:27] <SkoobyNoob> never mind you are a bunch of glorified assholes
[20:27] <maddawg3> but you are trying to connect a headset and you arent even given us what headset you are trying to connect
[20:28] <maddawg3> these instructions are for something VERY different than what you are wanting to do SkoobyNoob
[20:28] <bitcoinassassin> planetmaker, but......... the home partition is encrypted
[20:28] <planetmaker> well, if you're logged-in you can read it and it's unencrypted upon read of a file?
[20:28] <bitcoinassassin> no, please read the pastebin if you haven't already
[20:29] <jcabb> bitcoinassassin, i just read it.. sec
[20:29] <planetmaker> you need to be logged-in as the user whose home partition is encrypted
[20:29] <bitcoinassassin> jcabb, thanks
[20:29] <bitcoinassassin> planetmaker, if I could boot the system which i can't which I explained
[20:30] <bitcoinassassin> in the pastebin
[20:30] <greek> Hi fellas. I've got a Acer K132 portable LED projector. Only has HDMI cable. I have a HDMI to USB adapter. Plugged it into my Lenovo ThinkPad running Ubuntu 12.04. The output of lsusb picks up the USB device as "Newnham Research". My projected image however still says "no signal". In display settings, clicking on "Detect displays" doesn't do anything. Any tips? Thanks
[20:30] <jcabb> bitcoinassassin, this URL should help you get that back.  http://www.howtogeek.com/116297/how-to-recover-an-encrypted-home-directory-on-ubuntu/
[20:31] <bitcoinassassin> jcabb, ok, I've read all those...... isn't there a way to figure out why the computer won't boot? and just fix that...? because that would be much simpler or am I being naieve
[20:31] <maddawg3> also for the record SkoobyNoob they didnt change the MAC address of the PS3 controller they changed the MAC address of the phone to be the same as the USB dongle
[20:31] <maddawg3> that's very different
[20:31] <bitcoinassassin> jcabb, but thank you
[20:31] <jcabb> bitcoinassassin, based on the tone of your writeup I assumed you wanted to recover, rebuild and never do that again. :)
[20:32] <jcabb> bitcoinassassin, it boils down to how much time you want to put into this
[20:32] <bitcoinassassin> jcabb, the recover an encrypted home directory is more time consuming, I realize this; which is why I'd really like to just fix the boot problem if I can
[20:32] <bitcoinassassin> *of
[20:33] <OerHeks> bitcoinassassin, did you store your passphrase  ?
[20:33] <bitcoinassassin> OerHeks, indeed, yes.
[20:34] <maddawg3> SkoobyNoob the reason they did that was so the PS3 controller would think it was connecting to the same device... they did it to fool the PS3 controller.  I dont know why you would need to do that with a headset though
[20:34] <maddawg3> the PS3 controller STILL has the same MAC it was built with, the computer's bluetooth MAC on the other hand has been "spoofed"
[20:35] <Pici> lets move on
[20:35] <OerHeks> bitcoinassassin, you could mount the encrypted home from live cd, https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/ecryptfs.html or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[20:36] <OerHeks> bitcoinassassin, did you try to boot in recovery mode first?
[20:39] <jim> I'm looking for a net monitor, seen one that does tcp and icmp at least, and has a curses interface... anything like that still around?
[20:42] <bitcoinassassin> OerHeks, yes, I get to the recovery screen
[20:45] <jayefftree> hola
[20:45] <Guido1> Hello, I'm searching for a new latop to put xubuntu on. I already made a basic comparision, but now it's about the grafikcard and the processor etc. on http://www.heise.de/preisvergleich/?cat=nb&asuch=Cardreader&asd=on&bpmax=700&v=e&filter=aktualisieren&xf=2379_15.4~69_Nummernblock~28_2000~83_LCD%20matt%20%28non-glare%29~893_4~2377_17.9~3310_2013~2647_40&sort=p you can see which futures are available for me and I'm interested in the different
[20:45] <Guido1> advantages and disadvantages expecialy in regard to working with linux
[20:45] <bitcoinassassin> I am running $sudo ecryptfs-recover-private and the search is on
[20:46] <bitcoinassassin> Guido1........ hmmm........ not a shopping guide
[20:46] <kober> Hey, I have a computer that has a wifi card but no monitor/gui, so I want to connect to the WPA wifi over CLI and I'm having trouble finding modern information
[20:46] <kober> Everyone says to install wpa_supplicant and configure it, but its already installed and running in ubuntu 14.04
[20:47] <Guido1> bitcoinassassin: I heard that some grafic cards cause trouble with linux.
[20:47] <kober> What is the best way to do WPA wifi via ssh?
[20:47] <jhutchins> kober: installed and running does not equal configured.  You need to select the ssid and provide the key.
[20:47] <kober> if I currently have it wired in
[20:48] <bitcoinassassin> Guido1 well, first, give the graphic card name and not a link to some hardware configuration...... in german, no less........
[20:48] <kober> jhutchins: Yeah, thats what I'm trying to figure out how to do.  I created a /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf but not sure what to do from there
[20:48] <jim> kober, so you're sshed in over a wired connection to the machine?
[20:48] <kober> jim: yeah
[20:48] <kober> jim: and I want to get it on the wifi
[20:48] <munro> Hello!  I just installed Ubuntu, and hosts aren't being saved to "known_hosts" ... I just get "Host key verification failed.
[20:48] <jim> pls say more about "get it"
[20:49] <Guido1> bitcoinassassin: graficcard producers: AMD (dediziert) (4) AMD (IGP) (3) Intel (IGP) (45) NVIDIA (dediziert)
[20:49] <bitcoinassassin> is there and #xubunbu channel? I don't know
[20:49] <matthiaskrgr> how do I add the utopic ppa to a system
[20:49] <jhutchins> kober: THis might help:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[20:49] <bitcoinassassin> ignore Guido1
[20:49] <bitcoinassassin> sorry
[20:49] <jhutchins> kober: I've done it a couple of times by stumbling through the man pages but not lately.
[20:49] <matthiaskrgr> !wiki utopic ppa
[20:49] <matthiaskrgr> :<
[20:49] <munro> it's very weird, I can't seem to Google this issue either... only thing that seems to work is using `ssh -o 'StrictHostKeyChecking=no' ...`
[20:50] <Guido1> bitcoinassassin: sorry, but I'm not familiar with a the hardware.
[20:50] <kober> jhutchins: Yeah, I foudn that, but it is 130 links and a lot of them are for old versions
[20:50] <kober> jhutchins: that is why I'm trying to find some modern help
[20:50] <xangua> !ubuntu+1 | matthiaskrgr
[20:50] <jhutchins> Guido1: The only way anybody knows whether something is supported is if somebody tries it then reports it somewhere.  You can find accounts on how well various chipsets are supported at http://x.org
[20:51] <matthiaskrgr> xangua: ok, thanks
[20:51] <kober> jhutchins: I know the settings I need because I have connected another machine with a GUI to this same wifi
[20:51] <kober> jhutchins: just need to get it done via the CLI now
[20:51] <jhutchins> kober: iirc you can put everything in the interfaces file, more than is in the interfaces man page.
[20:52] <jim> kober, is it that you don't have more direct access to the machine? not sure why you're doing the config over ssh
[20:52] <Guido1> jhutchins: thought that NVIDIA was a difficult one
[20:52] <kober> jim: I don't have to do it over SSH
[20:52] <kober> jim: I have physical access
[20:52] <kober> jim: I'm just doing it over SSH since it is available
[20:53] <jim> so it's probably you get to sit in a chair instead of lie in front of the box with a flashlite in your mouth or something?
[20:53] <uosiu> Hi all. I'm migrating my system to a new drive (including fresh system install) and I want to migrate all NetworkManager profiles. Is there a way to do that?
[20:53] <jim> the first thing is to find the driver that works with your card and your kernel
[20:54] <kober> jim: exactly
[20:55] <kober> jhutchins: after I updated network/interfaces, what is the command to get it to re-read and run it?
[20:55] <jim> once you can iwlist scan and see the stuff that's near your house, you know your driver is working
[20:55] <jim> then you would configure it
[20:55] <Jordan_U> kober: sudo ifdown wlan0 && sudo ifup wlan0
[20:57] <kober> jhutchins: Jordan_U: jim: http://paste.ofcode.org/UX2GJePT5NeKpbQB5EgjXF
[20:58] <jim> line 3
[20:58] <jim> but then why did it exit
[20:58] <kober> jim: Yeah, line 3 isn't very useful
[20:58] <munro> https://gist.github.com/munro/a9c973c62195b9b96bf9 <-- shell of trying to get known_hosts to work... strangest thing ever
[20:59] <matthiaskrgr> is there a way to get gcc 4.9 on precise ?
[20:59] <Jordan_U> matthiaskrgr: Why do you want gcc 4.9?
[20:59] <jim> I guess you could try building it
[20:59] <jim> that's kinda... involved...
[20:59] <RickyB98> hellou :-) i got this error message while running apt-get -f install ---> http://pastebin.com/0dC2mKTu <--- how can i solve this?
[21:00] <matthiaskrgr> Jordan_U: -fsanitize=address ; -fsanitize=undefined
[21:00] <Jordan_U> matthiaskrgr: You could make a small trusty chroot using debootstrap.
[21:00] <matthiaskrgr> Jordan_U: its about travis-ci
[21:00] <xangua> RickyB98: it looks like you have mixed repositories
[21:00] <matthiaskrgr> (which runs ubuntu)
[21:01] <matthiaskrgr> so building gcc for each job is not an option
[21:01] <RickyB98> xangua, urm.. i did? xD
[21:01] <xangua> RickyB98: did what?
[21:01] <noob> hey I was teste mac filtering and now I blocked my own connection, I don't know what to do. someone to help me?
[21:01] <kober> jim: Looks like it failed because wpa_supplicant is already running
[21:02] <RickyB98> did i mix repos?
[21:02] <RickyB98> how can i solve that?
[21:02] <kober> which is true, because ubuntu runs it by default
[21:02] <jim> so the startup runs it by default, but somewhere else it's questioning whether it's running?
[21:03] <jim> what happens when you try iwlist scan?
[21:03] <RickyB98> jim you talking to me?
[21:03] <jim> no, to kober
[21:03] <RickyB98> ah, ok
[21:04] <kober> jim: well, wpa_supplicant maybe configured properly now?  So maybe wpa-cfg in /etc/network/interfaces was the wrong thing
[21:04] <kober> jim: How do I tell interfaces to connect to an ssid but use the currently running wpa_supplicant instead of launching its own?
[21:05] <jim> kober, I'm trying to see if maybe your driver is up now
[21:05] <jim> and iwlist scan (as root) is one way to do that, or sudo iwlist scan
[21:06] <virgenmadre>  Is there some sort of sandbox alternative, to backing up files that I know are infected with windows virus. I am using gsync for this (not doing it yet). Atm I don't have the time to run the virus scanner etc... Find all that stuff and then back it up.
[21:07] <virgenmadre> I want to just back it up, is there some program where it automates this, thanks appreciate it.
[21:07] <planetmaker> virgenmadre, I'd install windows in a virtualbox VM
[21:07] <virgenmadre> I am running Ubuntu 13.10, backing up some XP computer
[21:07] <kober> jim: yeah, the scan works just fine
[21:07] <kober> jim: My problem isn't the interface itself, its how to tell the interface/wpa_supplicant what to do
[21:07] <planetmaker> you can even download full windows VMs pre-fab for virtualbox from microsoft itself
[21:07] <virgenmadre> planetmaker, ohh interesting, you mean something like robolinux?
[21:08] <planetmaker> for testing purposes: http://modern.ie
[21:08] <planetmaker> dunno robolinux.
[21:08] <Jordan_U> virgenmadre: I don't understand your current situation. You can back up files pretty much however you want, the Windows viruses won't affect Ubuntu.
[21:08] <planetmaker> yeah, also that ^
[21:08] <nashant> Hey. Right, I've got a problem with the OSS drivers and my Radeon HD6450. It's only letting me have 1024x768 resolution rather than 1920x1080. How can I manually change this?
[21:08] <nashant> or get it tto change it on its own
[21:09] <virgenmadre> hmm I really don't know I can say that. This is the reason why I had to install linux in my friends comp in the first place. They had some MoneyPak scam going on, pretending to be feds pay up or land in jail etc...
[21:09] <rcw2> ive been using kubuntu for a couple years or so.  any reason ubuntu is significantly better that anyone wants to comment on
[21:09] <virgenmadre> rcw2, do you mean Unity?
[21:10] <jim> isn't that just ubuntu that defaults to kde?
[21:10] <rcw2> or is it mainly a gnome vs kde question
[21:10] <virgenmadre> I think its more of a hardware issue
[21:10] <rcw2> unity isnt that a game engine
[21:10] <theadmin> rcw2: Eh, it is, but it's also the name of the default desktop environment in Ubuntu
[21:10] <virgenmadre> if you have enough RAM, and KDE is working fine (no audio issues etc...) it really is the best.
[21:11] <virgenmadre> The only possible problem I can see is that its not working properly, hence changing to GNOME.
[21:11] <theadmin> rcw2: It's also a Linux distribution which makes things even more bloody confusing. Genrally, when you talk about the game engine, you say "Unity3D", when you talk about the desktop, you say "Unity", when you talk about the distro you say "Unity Linux"
[21:11] <virgenmadre> theadmin, yeah I have been kind of confused by all that o_O
[21:11] <virgenmadre> Unity3D is not from Canonical is it?
[21:12] <rcw2> theadmin: so ubuntu might as well be called Unity Linux
[21:12] <virgenmadre> I always wondered, geez names can be a pain :P
[21:12] <theadmin> Has nothing to do with Canonical, it doesn't even work under Linux
[21:12] <theadmin> rcw2: No, Unity Linux is a separate distro and it runs LXDE by default :P
[21:12] <theadmin> Is also Redhat based
[21:12] <theadmin> So has zero relation to Ubuntu
[21:13] <rcw2> theadmin: whyd you mention it
[21:13] <rcw2> out of curiousity
[21:13] <jim> to have another list item?
[21:13] <theadmin> rcw2: Eh, just because you asked whether Unity is a game engine so I explained that there are 3 major, well-ḳnown projects called "Unity" which are all different stuff
[21:13] <noob> hey I was teste mac filtering and now I blocked my own connection, I don't know what to do. someone to help me?
[21:14] <rcw2> theadmin: i was asking for comments on kubuntu vs ubuntu
[21:14] <theadmin> rcw2: > <rcw2> unity isnt that a game engine
[21:14] <rcw2> anyways, do you have any :)
[21:14] <theadmin> rcw2: I was replying to that
[21:14] <rcw2> sorry it was <virgenmadre> rcw2, do you mean Unity?
[21:14] <theadmin> rcw2: As for Kubuntu vs Ubuntu... well... KDE is more functional, you may enjoy it if you're coming from Windows or if you're just a power user
[21:15] <theadmin> rcw2: Regular Ubuntu is nice and friendly but it lacks desktop configurability in many ways
[21:15] <jim> unity-the-DE, does that still need DRM?
[21:15] <theadmin> jim: What kind of DRM are you talking about? It never had any DRM, it's free software
[21:15] <OerHeks> jim,  did it ever?
[21:15] <rcw2> theadmin: that was one of the reasons i remember switching after checking out ubuntu a while back.  i wonder if anything has changed
[21:16] <jim> I coulnd't get it working, well, ever... at that time I couldn't get drm going with my video card
[21:16] <theadmin> rcw2: Well... A lot has changed since 11.10 which was the first version with Unity
[21:16] <theadmin> rcw2: But it's still a young desktop so it's lacking in customisability when compared to KDE or even Xfce
[21:17] <rcw2> is it much less processor intensive than kde
[21:17] <theadmin> rcw2: Didn't do any benchmarks but I would say if you can run Ubuntu you should be able to run Kubuntu just fine
[21:17] <jim> kde is a huge pile of stuff, so I'll go out on a limb and say yes
[21:18] <theadmin> jim: It's a huge pile of stuff, but it doesn't all run at the same time, nor is the entire KDESC preinstalled in Kubuntu
[21:18] <virgenmadre> planetmaker, isn't viruses inside a VM and from running in real hardware still the same problem?
[21:18] <jim> is that what he has, just what's preinstalled?
[21:19] <virgenmadre> i.e. Windows XP from a VM presents you the same problems you had before, bc there are no to security updates anymore.
[21:19] <rcw2> does anyone feel that on average basic gnome apps are better developed or are more reliable than kde
[21:19] <planetmaker> virgenmadre, what do you want to do with the files?
[21:20] <noob> someone can help me?
[21:20] <theadmin> virgenmadre: XP running in an isolated VM should be secure. I mean, sure, Windows itself has security problems, but it won't harm the host OS
[21:20] <planetmaker> and of course, the problem persists, if you really want to use the VM
[21:20] <theadmin> virgenmadre: I still run XP for ancient software in a Virtualbox VM
[21:20] <virgenmadre> theadmin, even after the security updates have stopped?
[21:21] <Bashing-om> noob: No way to tell with out you say  what the issue is.
[21:21] <planetmaker> virgenmadre, it's better in that respect that you only need to run that VM for the tasks it's strictly necessary for. And to the other stuff you don't need windowsXP for from a proper OS which is not virus-ridden
[21:21] <theadmin> virgenmadre: Sure. I mean, again, yes, Windows is insecure. It *may* get infected with malware, and so on, but it will never harm the system you are running the VM on if it's isolated (no access to host FS, network, etc)
[21:22] <vilambit> ah
[21:22] <virgenmadre> theadmin, ahh I see, ohh the issue is that this particular hard drive is already seriously infected.
[21:22] <theadmin> I would avoid XP like fire anyway, it's ancient and if you don't really *need* it then don't run it
[21:23] <virgenmadre> if it was my PC I would just get rid of it, but I don't know if they have some directories where they have files they want to keep etc...
[21:24] <noob> Bashing-om:thx I was testing mac filtering and now I blocked my own connection, I don't know what to do. someone to help me?
[21:24] <theadmin> virgenmadre: Back up personal data using an Ubuntu LiveDVD and purge any .exes from the folders
[21:24] <theadmin> virgenmadre: The result should be safe enough to use...
[21:24] <sethj> Does anyone know if the multitouch gestures mentioned on this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch still work? They don't by default anyway.
[21:25] <theadmin> sethj: This was last edited in 2012, I am almost certain everything has changed since then
[21:25] <sethj> theadmin, that's what I was afraid of :(
[21:26] <Bashing-om> noob: Maybe; Disable the firewall (be prepared to know how to set it up again ) Terminal command -> iptables -F <- .
[21:26] <noob> ok
[21:26] <noob> Bashing-om: just that?
[21:27] <Bashing-om> noob: Maybe, depends on what you did, that commnad will flush the rules from iptables.  see : -> man iptables <- for the documentation.
[21:28] <noob> Bashing-om: iptables v1.4.21: can't initialize iptables table `filter': Permission denied (you must be root) Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded.
[21:29] <Bashing-om> noob: Then try as "root" -> sudo iptables -F <- .
[21:29] <john96> I'm trying to ssh into another linux pc. Unfortunetly i'm getting a permission denied error. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7590458/
[21:29] <john96> any ideas?
[21:30] <gmachine_24> I am having trouble booting to 12.04lts....... when I go to recovery and run $sudo e2fsck /dev/sda5 (the main Linux partition) I get "Superblock last mount time is in the future...." etc. It asks Fix<y>? I always say yes but this resolves nothing and I can do the same procedure again with the same results
[21:30] <theadmin> john96: It appears none of your public keys are known to the server you are connecting to, and it doesn't do password authentication
[21:30] <noob> Bashing-om: I was also using gpuw firewall... the mac filtering  I was acessing via router admin page, but now I cannot acess the wireless/wi-fi connection and I'm acessing internet via moden
[21:31] <theadmin> gmachine_24: Is your CMOS battery dead?
[21:31] <planetmaker> gmachine_24, yes, you miss a correct login. E.g. your key is not installed there or your login is wrong
[21:31] <Bashing-om> noob: I take it the changes were made in the router, then, and not to the operating system ? Time to read the manual for the router.
[21:31] <gmachine_24> theadmin, re: cmos battery, I don't know
[21:32] <john96> theadmin: Do i really need the public key to be know by the other device in order to ssh into it?
[21:32] <gmachine_24> planetmaker, I did not understand your answer
[21:32] <theadmin> gmachine_24: Do this, load your BIOS setup and check the time. Is it set to some ridiculous date, like 1/1/1970?
[21:32] <theadmin> john96: Yeah
[21:32] <noob> Bashing-om: nothing happend... i don't have the router manual but I can search it on line, I tried reseting the router and acessing the old IP default settings
[21:32] <theadmin> gmachine_24: planetmaker got the wrong person, lol
[21:32] <noob> but it doesn't seem to work
[21:32] <planetmaker> bah... my answer was meant for john96. Sorry
[21:32] <planetmaker> yeah. Should go to bed :)
[21:32] <noob> Bashing-om: but it doesn't seem to work
[21:33] <DonHomer> Hey Guys - Anyone know of a how-to to get Ubuntu up and running on a Lenovo t431s and if all of the hardware is even compatible?
[21:33] <Jordan_U> !hcl | DonHomer
[21:33] <noob> Bashing-om: yeah the changes were made in the router page admin I blocked acess via MAC filtering, but I didn't know they would make the chances before adding my own address
[21:34] <Bashing-om> noob: Sometimes what works is to unplug the power from the router wait a couple of minutes, and power back up, maybe will load the defults (??).
[21:34] <gmachine_24> theadmin, the clock is correct 6/4/14 17:34:13 tick tock
[21:34] <DonHomer> Jordan_U: Thanks, checking it out now.
[21:34] <Jordan_U> DonHomer: If you can, I try to always go to a store and boot the machine with a LiveCD/USB before I actually buy it, just to be sure.
[21:34] <theadmin> gmachine_24: Hm, alright then, the battery is ruled out...
[21:34] <gmachine_24> or for everyone outside nam 4.16.14
[21:35] <gmachine_24> theadmin, I've tried rescue disks.......... reinstalled grub2....... nothing helps
[21:35] <theadmin> gmachine_24: Well, it's not a GRUB problem, the problem is with your hard drive's filesystem
[21:36] <DonHomer> Jordan_U: That's a good idea!
[21:36] <noob> Bashing-om: I will try, but I did that before I will wait a few minutes
[21:36] <theadmin> Jordan_U: Do stores actually allow that?
[21:38] <DonHomer> theadmin: They probably don't but if you're not attracting too much attention I think you might be able to get away with it. At places like BestBuy I doubt they sales people even know what you are doing (not saying that all of BB sales folks are clueless)
[21:38] <noob> Bashing-om: btw can I acess the router page admin without connecting the router?
[21:39] <Jordan_U> theadmin: I've always asked first, and I've never been told no, but your results may varry.
[21:39] <Bashing-om> noob: There is a bunch I do not know, but, here I know of no way to access the router admin page with out going through a browser.
[21:39] <theadmin> Jordan_U: Depends on the location I guess
[21:39] <gmachine_24> theadmin, booting to the recovery there are lots and lots of lines such as [14.404875] cfg80211: Updating information or frequency 2467 Mhz for width channel with regulatory rule:" blah blah blah
[21:39] <theadmin> gmachine_24: That sounds like something to do with Wi-Fi
[21:40] <theadmin> gmachine_24: Shouldn't be a problem
[21:40] <gmachine_24> oh.ok.
[21:40] <gmachine_24> yeah..just never saw it b4
[21:40] <jim> noob, out of idle curiousity, how are you here right now?
[21:41] <gmachine_24> theadmin, I'm trying a boot with failsafe graphics mode....... bc I've tried everything else
[21:43] <Jordan_U> gmachine_24: Since you're running e2fsck manually, please run "date" just before fsck to be sure it's correct.
[21:44] <spandel> Hey, everybody. I'm having partitioning issues... Anybody feeling helpful.. And knows a thing or two about these kind of things?
[21:45] <jim> spandel, well what is it you want to do?
[21:45] <Bashing-om> spandel: Well, for starters, if it is a Windows partition, use Windows tools .
[21:46] <spandel> Bashing-om: yeah, i read that someplace. But it's not, it's my ubuntu root partition
[21:46] <gmachine_24> Jordan_U, as in sudo date e2fsck ...??
[21:47] <Jordan_U> gmachine_24: No, as in "date".
[21:47] <virgenmadre> T_T over 400 so far threats found, and I just started. Using clamtk, later I will scan it with F-Prot. Yeah I am not so sure if I want that in the linux hard drive.
[21:47] <Bashing-om> spandel: OK proceed as jim request, what is the objective here ?
[21:47] <gmachine_24> Jordan_U, lol, ok
[21:47] <spandel> the thing is, gparted suddenly tells me that it has about 4gb of unallocated space in that partition
[21:47] <jim> you're running date to see if your time is set
[21:48] <gmachine_24> we've been through the date check before but $date yields Wed jun 4 09:47:43 EDT 2014.... which, granted, is 8 hours off
[21:49] <spandel> i originally just gave it 20gb, so 4gb is quite a lot for me here
[21:49] <Bashing-om> spandel: How does -> sudo fdisk -lu <- compare to what GParted sees (from the liveDVD ).
[21:49] <jim> spandel, so the objective is to see why it's doing that?
[21:49] <gmachine_24> so I'm guessing the date is ok?
[21:49] <gmachine_24> or no.........?
[21:49] <spandel> jim: Well, yeah. but also to fix it
[21:49] <jim> ok. when you say fix it, had you written the partition table already?
[21:50] <Jordan_U> gmachine_24: 8 Hours off is 8 hours off, especially if you went back in time.
[21:50] <Jordan_U> gmachine_24: Do you dual boot with Windows?
[21:50] <gmachine_24> Jordan_U, yes
[21:50] <jim> spandel, when you started was it a new unused drive?
[21:51] <gmachine_24> Jordan_U, the bios clock is correct, if that is important
[21:51] <spandel> Bashing-om: i don't have a live-dvd at this time
[21:51] <spandel> jim: it was new, but it had windows 8 installed at it from the beginning
[21:52] <jim> do you want to keep that?
[21:52] <john96> How can i force an ssh client machine to not try to use a public key as authentication. To force it to prompt for a user password instead?
[21:52] <spandel> jim: the thing is i am pretty confident that it wasn't like this from the beginning
[21:52] <spandel> i've had the ubuntu install for like 8 months or something
[21:52] <Jordan_U> gmachine_24: Windows defaults to considering the hardware clock to being local time. Ubuntu (and pretty much all *NIX systems) defaults to considering the hardware clock to be UTC. So every time you boot Windows it's "fixing" the hardware clock, and setting it back 8 hours from UTC to your local time.
[21:52] <spandel> jim: yes, i would like to keep my windows install
[21:53] <gmachine_24> Jordan_U, interesting, I did not know that. Thanks.
[21:53] <jim> ok. do you know what partitions your windows are on? do you want to try backing the drive up?
[21:55] <jim> I need a curses network packet monitor :) hopefully that covers at least IP, TCP and ICMP
[21:55] <spandel> I know what partition it is on, yes. I guess i could do a back up of the drive, but to what purpose?
[21:55] <ez1> d like to restore a system image to dissimilar hardware, can you advice me of a program to do so ?
[21:56] <jim> spandel, so you don't lose windows (wait, how important is the stuff in the windows partition(s)?
[21:56] <Jordan_U> gmachine_24: You're welcome. You should either configure Windows to use UTC, or Ubuntu to use local time to prevent this from happening in the future (or 8 hours in the past :).
[21:57] <jim> are you sure -- after you got this "4 gb unused" message -- that the windows partition exists?
[21:57] <Jordan_U> ez1: Dissimilar hardware isn't generally an issue. What type of image did you create? Is the original system UEFI or BIOS? Is the new system UEFI or BIOS?
[21:58] <jim> having said ALL this, I'm not sure how we'd recover if any answers are no
[21:58] <spandel> jim: yes i am sure
[21:58] <spandel> :)
[21:59] <spandel> i'm using that same partition for my main storing folder, which i also mount in my ubuntu installation
[21:59] <jim> ok, so now, you're looking at putting a ubuntu on the machine... for the first time? has the machine ever had a linux on it?
[21:59] <spandel> jim: do you mean me?
[21:59] <gmachine_24> Jordan_U, will do
[22:00] <Jordan_U> spandel: So you're just surprised to find 4 GiB of unallocated space, but other than that have not noticed any problems. Correct?
[22:00] <spandel> Jordan_U: correct!
[22:00] <jim> so you store things on your windows partition so you can get at it from either windows or linux?
[22:00] <spandel> jim: yes
[22:00] <Jordan_U> spandel: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[22:01] <wilee-nilee> Note ez1 is using multiple channels for the same question Jordan_U
[22:02] <TBotNik> All, Wilee-nilee was helping me with my problem, but left the channel.  Repeating my problem Can not get movies to play on my kubuntu 12.04 LTS desktop.  Wrote this up at:  http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-linux/201626-video-player-2.html#post951814
[22:02] <TBotNik> All, hope someone out here know how to unravel all the player/codec issues, cause never tried any AV stuff before!  Wilee-nilee had me load the restricted extras with HOWTO at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats but loading these has not changed the operation of any of my loaded players.  Still getting all the original errors!
[22:02] <wilee-nilee> Jordan_U, If you could explain this to them, they seem have an issue that it is their right.
[22:02] <spandel> http://pastebin.com/BdFw4YE8
[22:02] <jim> spandel, so I'm pretty much sitting here trying to make sure (1) that the stuff on your drive is still there and (2) trying to figure out where you are in the install... inside the installer and inside the partitioner?
[22:03] <spandel> jim: i'm not in an install at all
[22:03] <spandel> jim: i installed ubuntu in august last year
[22:03] <TBotNik> wilee-nilee: See you are back!
[22:03] <spandel> and had windows before that
[22:03] <jim> ohh,
[22:03] <spandel> maybe i should have started with a little background
[22:04] <wilee-nilee> TBotNik, My nick is irrelevant, do not just usr it like that, I gave you a restricted link and just asked a question, standard protocol.
[22:04] <TBotNik> wilee-nilee: Hey the restricted extras did not fix any of the player issues I'm having!
[22:04] <spandel> i just now noticed the unallocated space in the root partition
[22:04] <wilee-nilee> use*
[22:04] <spandel> which i believe have not been there beforer
[22:04] <spandel> is that possible? that some of the space within a partition suddenly gets unallocated
[22:05] <spandel> some of the EMPTY space i should add
[22:05] <jim> oh, unallocated space -in- the root partition? that should be ok
[22:05] <TBotNik> wilee-nilee: use*  ???
[22:05] <jim> when you first make a partition, it's usually empty :)
[22:05] <jim> how big a partition did you make when you first installed ubuntu?
[22:05] <spandel> Jordan_U: Did you see my link?
[22:06] <spandel> jim: 20gb
[22:06] <jim> ok, so it could make sense that some of it is free
[22:06] <Jordan_U> wilee-nilee: Meh, normally "cross-posting" the same question in multiple channels is rude, but in this case the context of asking the question in ##windows and #ubuntu means that it's a radically different question, since in one case you're asking how to handle hardware changing in Windows and in the other you're asking about hardware changing in Ubuntu. They have multiple systems their trying to migrate over, and each system ...
[22:06] <Jordan_U> ... will require radically different steps/tools due to their OS.
[22:07] <Jordan_U> s/thier/they're/
[22:07] <spandel> jim: well yes, but there is a difference between unused and unallocated right?
[22:07] <matthiaskrgr> is there a way to use python-software-properties in a script?
[22:07] <matthiaskrgr> it seems to require user interaction
[22:08] <wilee-nilee> Jordan_U, They became belligerent with a simple explanation is all, this is a group effort, not a single persons need was my point with them.
[22:08] <spandel> gparted tells me to run "Partition --> Check" to fix it, but it is greyed out
[22:08] <Jordan_U> matthiaskrgr: software-properties-gtk seems to have some non-interactive options (I use "-e" regularly for giving instructions in this channel).
[22:08] <spandel> i guess i have to do it from a live disk
[22:09] <jim> there is... and we can characterize that difference by saying "unallocated" means the space is not in any partition whereas unused space is part of a partition but hasn't been allocated to a file
[22:09] <spandel> jim: Ok, but gparted tells me different
[22:10] <jim> or vise versa... I don't actually know which is meant by which
[22:10] <jim> is gparted saying the space is not in any partition?
[22:10] <Jordan_U> spandel: I don't see any unallocated space there. Are you sure that you're not misinterpreting free space in the filesystem as space not allocated to any partition?
[22:10] <wilee-nilee> Jordan_U, It was the same question word for word as here. "ez1> Hi, id like to restore a windows image to dissimilar hardware (i.e. another platform) could you please advice me how to do so ?" However I understand what your saying
[22:11] <spandel> it tells me that (when i open info about the partition) that it has 11.96GiB used, 4.15GiB unused and 3.89GiB unallocated
[22:11] <spandel> this is from gparted gui
[22:11] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | spandel
[22:12] <jim> oh yay, my dsl isn't being flooded anymore!
[22:12] <polo_25> hi
[22:13] <jim> hi
[22:14] <polo_25> can someone help me with my print configuration
[22:14] <wilee-nilee> polo_25, Probably, give the channel an outline of the issue.
[22:15] <jim> probably a lot here can help... you can make it easier by saying more details about what you need, what is going on now and what you want instead
[22:16] <ldiamond> lxdm-binary is taking 100% of a core. Anyone knows why? (I've only found old bug reports for this, im on 14.04)
[22:17] <spandel> Jordan_U: http://tinypic.com/r/rk303s/8
[22:18] <spandel> Jordan_U: i also included output of df -h, which says that the same partition is only 16GB
[22:18] <jim> can't zoom into the screenshot
[22:18] <polo_25> well, I need to print in raw mode in an EPSON FX2190 , trying with "lp -d EPSON_PRINTER -o raw Archivo.prt" I can print, but I don't now hos to onfigure the printer to print in raw mode automatically and print from my DOS emulated app in DOSBox MB6
[22:18] <spandel> jim: You can click it?
[22:19] <jim> that's the exact issue... when I try, it errors
[22:19] <spandel> jim: http://oi62.tinypic.com/rk303s.jpg
[22:19] <spandel> direct link
[22:20] <Jordan_U> spandel: Interesting, you have a partition that's larger than the filesystem it contains. Easily fixed though. Did you happen to use other partitionioning software than GParted in the past? (GParted would have automatically resized the filesystem along with the partition).
[22:20] <shinobi_one> is this the right place to ask a question about ubuntu and nfs4?
[22:21] <spandel> Jordan_U: I do? please elaborate
[22:22] <jim> shinobi_one, give it a shot... include lots of detail about what you're having trouble with
[22:23] <shinobi_one> well i'm used to other versions of nfs, with nfs4 i just want to export /export/somedir out to a specific server, i've set it up not using a root aka /export fsid=0 line in my /etc/exports because i only want a subdir /export/somedir exported (not sure if that will work), basically the client receives no such file or directory when trying to mount
[22:24] <Tex_Nick> shinobi_one: also if you don't get an answer here you might try #ubuntu-server
[22:24] <semente> it is only in my virtual machine or python3 binary in Ubuntu 14.04 has wrong permissions? -rwxr-x--- 2 root root /usr/bin/python3.4
[22:25] <jim> "others" can't execute (or read or write) python3.4
[22:25] <semente> jim why not?
[22:25] <jim> because the permissions for "other" are blanked out
[22:26] <semente> jim: yes, I know.. I mean, I didn't touch it.. it was like that
[22:26] <jim> weird :) could it be a strange setting for when you mounted it?
[22:27] <semente> jim: so probably it is only in my machine..
[22:27] <semente> jim: it is vagrant + virtualbox
[22:27] <jim> how is the storage mounted?
[22:28] <semente> jim: I think it is a bug in the virtual machine image
[22:29] <jim> can you run the installation native? (or is that inconvenient maybe because4 you have other VMs)?
[22:30] <jim> is python3.4 the only thing you've found so far that has the permission issue?
[22:30] <spandel> Does anybody have a clue about what might be the source of my problems here? :)
[22:31] <jim> spandel, maybe since you first made that partition, you used only 4/5ths of it?
[22:31] <jim> it's working, yes?
[22:32] <spandel> jim: well, it's not NOT working. if you know what i mean
[22:32] <spandel> it's just like i think i lost 4 gb
[22:32] <jim> let me ask... is it running now?
[22:32] <spandel> yes
[22:32] <spandel> i'm on it
[22:32] <vilambit> can anyone get screenlets to work on 14.04? for me no screenlets get displayed at all
[22:32] <jim> so.... maybe we can assume the partition is healthy, if underweight
[22:32] <spandel> haha
[22:33] <spandel> i suppose
[22:33] <spandel> but i kind of need to get it back on bacon
[22:33] <jim> as Jordan_U states, that should be easy
[22:33] <jim> mmmm bacon
[22:33] <spandel> i'm sure it is easy
[22:34] <jim> bacon avocado salsa omlettttteee
[22:34] <psusi> spandel, apparently the filesystem was not formatted correctly and isn't using the full size of the partition... you have to unmount it in order to check it
[22:34] <spandel> psusi: thank you. i suspected that
[22:34] <spandel> so... live disk boot?
[22:35] <jim> yeah, something like that, where the running system and kernel is not on that disk
[22:35] <psusi> spandel, or just click unmount
[22:35] <TBotNik> All, Repeating request!! Can not get movies to play on my kubuntu 12.04 LTS desktop.  Wrote this up at: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-linux/201626-video-player-2.html#post951814  All, hope someone out here knows how to unravel all the player/codec issues, cause never tried any AV stuff before!  Wilee-nilee, from the "#ubuntu" channel had me load the restricted extras with HOWTO at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats but loading
[22:35] <TBotNik> these has not changed the operation of any of my loaded players.  Still getting all the original errors!  Also "bprompt" from the "#kubuntu" channel suggested I do a fresh install of mplayer, ffmpeg and libavcodec so did so with cmd "apt-get -f install mplayer libxine1-ffmpeg gxine mencoder mpeg2dec vorbis-tools id3v2 mpg321 mpg123 libflac++6 ffmpeg totem-mozilla icedax tagtool easytag id3tool lame nautilus-script-audio-convert libmad0 libjpeg-progs flac
[22:35] <TBotNik> faac faad sox ffmpeg2theora libmpeg2-4 uudeview flac libmpeg3-1 mpeg3-utils mpegdemux liba52-0.7.4-dev libquicktime2".  I had to leave libavcodec off as it kept erroring with "not found", so do not have the right repository for this or it has been version superceded!
[22:35] <jim> isn't it your / partition? that's hard to unmount :)
[22:35] <spandel> psusi: won't work when it's the root partition, right?
[22:35] <psusi> spandel, it isn't the root partition
[22:35] <spandel> jim: exactly
[22:35] <spandel> psusi: yes it is?
[22:36] <psusi> no.. it's your windows partition
[22:36] <jim> psusi, oh? how can you tell
[22:36] <spandel> nono, thats not where my problems are
[22:36] <psusi> jim, because it's ntfs ;)
[22:36] <psusi> it is according to the screen shot you posted
[22:36] <jim> ahh :) good catch, ok, we've been talkin about the wrong baconstarved partition this whole time!
[22:36] <psusi> oops, neverind, i"m a dingbat
[22:37] <spandel> haha
[22:37] <psusi> my eye was drawn to the wrong part in the image
[22:37] <spandel> psusi: that's ok ;)
[22:37] <psusi> then yea, livecd
[22:37] <jim> the ad at the top?
[22:37] <spandel> lots of things going on in that image
[22:38] <spandel> great
[22:38] <psusi> or you can just run sudo resize2fs / from a command prompt
[22:38] <psusi> err, /dev/sda6
[22:38] <spandel> what would that do?
[22:39] <psusi> expand the filesystem to use the rest of the space in the partition
[22:39] <spandel> wouldn't that be risky to do while it's mounted?
[22:40] <jim> some filesystem types can be grown while mounted
[22:40] <psusi> not really, no
[22:40] <jim> (not shrunk)
[22:40] <psusi> btrfs can shrink while mounted ;)
[22:41] <spandel> and it wouldn't do anything with all my other partitions?
[22:41] <psusi> correct
[22:42] <jim> no, it shouldn't. one thing we know by looking at the parted display, the partition size is actually 20g, so the space is actually there for it
[22:43] <matthiaskrgr> why can't I install gcc 4.9 via   sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-toolchain-r/test -y ; sudo apt-get update -qq ; sudo apt-get install gcc4.9   ?
[22:44] <wilee-nilee> matthiaskrgr, Is that in that ppa pointed at your release? PPA's technically are not supported here, however people do help anyway at times.
[22:44] <matthiaskrgr> its listed there https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/test   but apparently it does still not work :/
[22:45] <wilee-nilee> matthiaskrgr, the update to that version should install with an update if there.
[22:45] <jim> matthiaskrgr, it should say something about why
[22:45] <matthiaskrgr> jim: it doesn't  https://travis-ci.org/matthiaskrgr/cppcheck/jobs/26803477
[22:45] <trism> matthiaskrgr: precise only has as high as gcc-4.8 in that ppa, look at the dropdown
[22:46] <spandel> psusi: Heeey!! It worked!
[22:46] <matthiaskrgr> oh : |
[22:47] <spandel> psusi: thanks a lot!
[22:47] <spandel> jim: also, thanks to you :)
[22:47] <matthiaskrgr> so there is no way to get 4.9 on precise ?
[22:47] <jim> spandel, this may be hard to believe (as hard as it is to confirm), it may have been like that since august :)
[22:48] <spandel> jim: Yeah, i realize that as well... although i don't want to :)
[22:48] <spandel> well, it works now, so yaay
[22:49] <jim> matthiaskrgr, yes there are ways, some of that more convenient than others
[22:49] <jim> btw that link just showed me a totally blank page
[22:49] <spandel> anyway, thanks! and goodbye
[22:49] <matthiaskrgr> jim: do you use noscript?
[22:49] <matthiaskrgr> it might need scripts
[22:50] <jim> oh, well no, I don't think so
[22:50] <matthiaskrgr> hm
[22:50] <jim> it's the textual output of an apt-get run?
[22:50] <matthiaskrgr> anyway, gcc4.9 no being available in toolchain ppa for precise eplains my failing attempts
[22:50] <matthiaskrgr> jim: kind of
[22:51] <matthiaskrgr> its a travis build log of the commands performed which I thought would install gcc4.9 .. :)
[22:51] <matthiaskrgr> but travis is on ubuntu 12.04 or so
[22:51] <jim> well then the inconvenient choices become exposed... you -could- build the packages of it
[22:51] <semente> hey jim, probably the deploy scripts did something with the permission.. I got a fresh installation from the same image and everything is fine now. thanks!
[22:52] <matthiaskrgr> jim: I only have 50 minutes max time on that buildslave
[22:52] <jim> semente, welcome; enjoy
[22:52] <matthiaskrgr> so if I cannot build gcc withing 50 minutes, it wont work
[22:52] <matthiaskrgr> also building gcc is total overkill
[22:52] <jim> yeah it is
[22:52] <Phibs>  anyone know why when I run debmirror, it isn't picking up the installer ?
[22:53] <jim> what if you were to install a later (later, right?) install of ubuntu that has gcc-4.9
[22:54] <qin> Does gnome-terminal have transparent background in Unity in trusy?
[22:56] <mexi_d3> qin: Transparent background removed many releases ago.
[22:56] <mexi_d3> qin: Wait. Re-added! Yes it does.
[22:57] <wilee-nilee> Phibs, this may help. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Debmirror
[22:57] <qin> mexi_d3: Now I am truly confused.
[22:57] <mexi_d3> qin: I just checked. It has it.
[22:57] <Phibs> wilee-nilee: yeah followed that :(
[22:58] <gdt1> hi all. why i cant off display on my xubuntu??
[22:58] <qin> mexi_d3: Thanks, let's give Unity a chance it deserves.
[22:59] <bonks> Is the delay after entering my ssh password configurable? I'm using 14.04
[22:59] <wilee-nilee> Phibs, Never messed with it but seems pretty straight forward, I would only suggest a more detailed description... IE what you set up so far and what errors you have exactly
[22:59] <Phibs> I think I got it, had to add some options @ end thanks
[23:01] <wilee-nilee> Phibs, Cool, self work "is a good thing" Martha Stewart. ;)
[23:02] <Phibs> hehe
[23:02] <Phibs> had to add this to the debmirror cmd in example
[23:02] <Phibs>                 --di-arch amd64      \
[23:02] <Phibs>                 --di-dist precise,trusty      \
[23:02] <Phibs> :)
[23:03] <shaddowed> anyone using diodon 1.1? can't get it to work
[23:03] <wilee-nilee> !details | shaddowed If you can
[23:05] <gdt1> can anyone help me with xubuntu, msi notebook and energy saving?
[23:05] <ejo> I just noticed this odd thing in 14.04.  Typical unity-3D session with launcher at left, nautilus, etc.  When I have 2 or more nautilus windows open, right clicking on the nautilus icon in the launcher gives access to any of the open nautilus windows.  When only ONE nautilus window is open, that option is not there and I can only reach that window, if minimized at the time, by alt-tabbing or other tricks.
[23:05] <ejo> Anyone know a fix for that?  It really should be possible to get to my current nautilus window, if single, via the launcher.
[23:07] <psusi> ejo, left click on it?
[23:07] <ejo> psusi, that's what I would have expected.  But that opens a new instance instead.
[23:07] <shaddowed> ejo: can't reproduce here
[23:07] <ejo> shaddowed: ok, good to know... hmm.. so left clicking for you brings up the currently open nautilus window?
[23:08] <ejo> even if minimized or otherwise hidden?
[23:09] <shaddowed> ejo: check what 'gsettings get com.canonical.Unity.Launcher favorites' gives
[23:09] <ejo> "No such schema 'com.canonical.Unity.launcher'"
[23:09] <blueingress> Hi Guys
[23:09] <ejo> (tried also with all lower case, similar result)
[23:10] <rsumiwork> is there a way to run “apt-get upgrade” and forcing it never to ask about my grub partition? the reason is i’m trying to have it run during a vagrant setup
[23:10] <wilee-nilee> rsumiwork, What is it asking about the grub partition, which by the way is generally not needed?
[23:11] <wilee-nilee> I assume you mean boot partition here rsumiwork
[23:11] <apb1963> maddawg: I have results
[23:13] <blueingress> How can I monitor the status of the vpnc connnections?
[23:13] <rsumiwork> wilee-nilee: yeah grub is asking about a boot partition
[23:13] <shaddowed> ejo: you have ubuntu-desktop installed or build from mini iso?
[23:13] <shaddowed> ejo: you must be missing some packages, not sure which one
[23:13] <wilee-nilee> rsumiwork, In what way, I have never seen this, is the partition full? Please elaborate exactly what you are seeing.
[23:14] <rsumiwork> wilee-nilee: ok one moment i’m going to re-run the bootup script
[23:15] <wilee-nilee> rsumiwork, You can pastebin all of that probably a good idea so the channel can see it.
[23:15] <rsumiwork> wilee-nilee: the hard part of that is that the grub ncurses window pops
[23:15] <rsumiwork> up
[23:16] <psusi> rsumiwork, why don't you just answer it and install grub properly?
[23:17] <wilee-nilee> rsumiwork, I'm not familiar with this area, I probably should not have answered, I know grub pretty well in other contexts.
[23:17] <rsumiwork> psusi: because that’s defeats the purpose of automating my vagrant setup
[23:17] <psusi> what is that purpose?
[23:18] <rsumiwork> psusi: i just need apt-get update to update all the packages except grub because i don’t use grub
[23:18] <psusi> rsumiwork, then why do you have it installed?  configure it not to install anywhere and it won't ask again
[23:18] <card> Hello guys, I have a question
[23:19] <rsumiwork> good question. i wonder if that will fix it… apt-get uninstall grub then apt-get upgrade
[23:19] <card> Let's say I dual booted with Ubuntu and Windows
[23:19] <psusi> it would be grub-pc, not grub
[23:19] <card> And then I decided I didn't have enough partition space for Windows (for gaming), so I decided to resize the Windows partition. But, my Ubuntu partition came first on the disk, so I had to move the head of the partition.
[23:19] <wilee-nilee> card, Theoretical help not really what we do.
[23:20] <wilee-nilee> is*
[23:20] <card> Ehm, this is what happened, I just talk like that some times :P
[23:20] <card> Anyways
[23:20] <wilee-nilee> card, Head of ubuntu?
[23:20] <card> Like I said, I moved the Windows partition head. Of course, Windows freaked out about this, and now I need to figure out a way to fix it from Ubuntu.
[23:21] <psusi> iirc, gparted warns you and tells you what to do
[23:21] <qin> card: is situations like this you will benefit from having back up and might need to consider reinstalling as faster solution.
[23:21] <wilee-nilee> card, you can't fix that from ubuntu, probably not from windows, load the image/clone you should have.
[23:21] <card> Psusi, it did warn me, but I had done this with other OSes on the same disk and they didn't have a problem
[23:22] <card> Hrm, so a restore would be the only way (I don't have a backup, I didn't have the disk space)
[23:22] <card> Is there any way I could update it with the new start location of the partition?
[23:23] <holstein> card: try it
[23:23] <card> Huh?
[23:23] <card> Try what, the restore?
[23:23] <holstein> card: nothing about ubuntu has broken windows..
[23:24] <psusi> card, windows does this idiotic thing where it stores the offset of the partition in the partition boot sector so it needs updated after moving it... I could have sworn there was a utility to do this but can't seem to find it now
[23:24] <holstein> card: try what you think will work.. if you want to update a new "head" or whatever you think will work..
[23:24] <card> No no, it's not Ubuntu, it's a user error that I made from the Ubuntu LiveCD, I just thought this would be the best place to look for help
[23:24] <psusi> booting the windows install cd and doing a repair should also fix it
[23:24] <card> Hrm
[23:24] <card> Oh thats the thing
[23:24] <holstein> yeah, i agree with psusi .. try the restore install
[23:24] <card> Normally I would go "oh well the partition is fine I can just load up the install media"
[23:25] <holstein> that always bailed me out
[23:25] <card> But, I'm on a Mac, and for some (well, actually probably obvious reason), Windows has absolutely terrible driver support for these things
[23:25] <card> So bad driver support, in fact, that it just boots. You can't use the keyboard, USB ports, or even the mouse
[23:26] <rsumiwork> how do i find out what package is responsible for installing grub on my system?
[23:26] <holstein> card: sure.. but either the hard drive works or not.. there should be driver support for the hard drive
[23:26] <card> I would think that the keyboard would have some generic driver, but nope
[23:26] <SonikkuAmerica> rsumiwork: Do you have UEFI?
[23:26] <psusi> rsumiwork, like I said before, the package is grub-pc
[23:26] <card> There is no native support for the SSD, but it is easily added with an Apple provided driver
[23:26] <rsumiwork> psusi: i looked in “dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall” and i don’t see grub-ps installed
[23:27] <card> Unfortunately, I can't select said driver without a keyboard or a mouse
[23:27] <SonikkuAmerica> psusi: if it's UEFI, no it's not
[23:27] <rsumiwork> SonikkuAmerica: Idk. What is that?
[23:27] <psusi> SonikkuAmerica, it isn't or he wouldn't be getting the question about where to install grub to
[23:27] <rsumiwork> SonikkuAmerica: It’s a vagrant setup of 12.04
[23:27] <SonikkuAmerica> rsumiwork: Does your machine have a Windows 8 logo?
[23:27] <psusi> rsumiwork, -pc, not -ps
[23:27] <OerHeks> !grub
[23:27] <SonikkuAmerica> psusi: Not necessarily
[23:27] <rsumiwork> psusi: it doesn’t have grub anything installed
[23:27] <rsumiwork> SonikkuAmerica: LOL no Windows 8 logo. thank god
[23:28] <psusi> then the upgrade must be installing it
[23:28] <holstein> rsumiwork: what is a "vagrant setup of 12.04" ?
[23:28] <holstein> !grub
[23:28] <holstein> you can use the restore grub link above ^
[23:29] <SonikkuAmerica> rsumiwork: Type [ sudo apt-cache policy grub-efi-amd64 ]
[23:29] <card> So, I don't really have a backup since I didn't have anywhere (or the money to buy somewhere) to put it
[23:29] <card> I didn't have anything essential on Windows, just games that take forever and a half to download again
[23:29] <card> And I do know how to reinstall Windows with the Apple provided drivers
[23:29] <holstein> card: consider just reinstalling then
[23:30] <psusi> SonikkuAmerica, grub-efi does not ask where to install to: it can only be installed to one place: your efi system partition
[23:30] <card> But in order to do this, I'd have to do it with Apple's Boot Camp utility
[23:30] <card> I still have OSX (I lied, I tri-booted :p), but now that I have Ubuntu, it refuses to allow me to create another Win partition
[23:30] <rsumiwork> SonikkuAmerica: http://pastebin.com/8ESKiwia
[23:30] <card> Or allow me to do anything to Windows
[23:31] <SonikkuAmerica> rsumiwork: Then you have grub-pc
[23:31] <rsumiwork> wtf
[23:31] <holstein> card: not sure what you mean.. grub can boot windows
[23:31] <rsumiwork> how come i can’t sudo apt-get remove grub-pc then?
[23:31] <card> Hell, if I could get the Apple-modified install media correct, then I could just fix this. But I can't. So here's my next question; is there a way to let me "hide" a partition unless an OS manually starts asking about it?
[23:31] <card> Bah, ok look
[23:31] <card> Windows isn't installed in GPT mode
[23:31] <rsumiwork> nvm i can
[23:31] <rsumiwork> #fail
[23:32] <holstein> card: sure.. "unless an os manually starts asking about it". you can address that with the operating systems in question
[23:32] <card> It's installed in MBR (with BIOS emulation as well) mode, through a hybrid MBR
[23:32] <card> So the Ubuntu install of GRUB in GPT mode doesn't see it
[23:33] <card> Also, I have rEFInd installed, I can get to booting Windows just fine
[23:33] <card> Thats not the problem at all
[23:33] <holstein> card: ok.. because you were implying windows was broken..
[23:33] <card> The problem is upon booting it it goes "Windows cannot find the boot sector" or something along those lines
[23:34] <card> Uhm, Windows "breaking" is kind of a very general term :P
[23:34] <holstein> card: i would see what reFIT or whatever you are using needs
[23:34] <card> ... that is not my problem
[23:34] <card> The problem is NOT with the boot loader or anything of the sort
[23:34] <card> I can BOOT INTO Windows just fine
[23:34] <card> But, upon doing so
[23:35] <OerHeks> state your problem then, all in one line please.
[23:35] <holstein> card: then, thats actually *not* "just fine".. thats the same as, cant boot...
[23:35] <card> I'm greeted with a classic MS "can't boot" screen, stating that the start sector of the partition has been moved (or something along those lines)
[23:35] <holstein> card: i would go to a windows support chanel with the error message
[23:35] <card> The error message means nothing; it's a generic one saying that Windows can't find the booting files
[23:36] <Ben64> card: you should be in ##windows for windows support
[23:36] <card> No holstein, that's not accurate, because you thought that I meant that, and you offered me GRUB :p
[23:36] <card> Well uh, alright, thanks anyways
[23:36] <card> Thanks ben
[23:36] <card> I'll check it out
[23:36] <holstein> card: im just offering what would boot windows, since you stated windows wasnt booting
[23:37] <card> ... I appreciate the help holstein
[23:40] <apb1963> card:  It's been a long, long time... but I believe win has a format /mbr command
[23:40] <card> hrm
[23:40] <holstein> fix mbr even
[23:40] <apb1963> or maybe that's DOS
[23:40] <holstein> but, that should break grub, and who knows what about reFIT or whatever that is now
[23:40] <card> Would there be any way to execute this command without booting into actual Windows?
[23:40] <card> No, it won't break GRUB.
[23:40] <card> GRUB is installed on the disk normally
[23:41] <holstein> should be, grub, on a normal dualboot, would see windows and boot ubuntu and windows
[23:41] <card> In GPT
[23:41] <SonikkuAmerica> holstein: rEFInd?
[23:41] <holstein> but, rEFInd^ could be quite different
[23:41] <apb1963> card: possibly...
[23:41] <apb1963> card: I'd have to google it
[23:41] <card> Hrm
[23:41] <card> I'm willing to use ReactOS, WINE, or whatever to do it
[23:41] <holstein> card: do do what?
[23:42] <holstein> to do*
[23:42] <perhapstired> Why would ubuntu still keep whining about 407 proxy authentication on python pip installs when you've cleared the etc/apt apt.conf file out of its way, and when you're no longer on a proxy of any sort???
[23:42] <apb1963> card: fdisk /mbr ... but that's from windows
[23:42] <holstein> card: if grub is installed, gru b is capable of booting windows and linux.. you shouldnt need wine or reactOS.. they dont have any "special sauce" for triplebooting
[23:42] <card> hrm
[23:42] <card> Holstein, let me explain this
[23:43] <card> My problem is NOT getting to Windows
[23:43] <card> I can get to Windows just fine
[23:43] <holstein> card: it is if you cant get to windows
[23:43] <holstein> card: you said, you cant
[23:43] <card> My problem is not with GRUB, or any of that
[23:43] <sickgirl> Bashing-om: hey, I solved my issue. is noob =)
[23:43] <card> My problem is with Windows BOOTING, not chain-loading Windows
[23:43] <sickgirl> Bashing-om: thank you
[23:47] <Bashing-om> sickgirl: Great, but you will have to remind me what we did, I have slept since then.
[23:50] <sickgirl> Bashing-om: it was something small and stupid reseting the router I had to keep the button pressed by 30 seconds but I did and kept by 1 min because I was tired and didn't want to do again... it worked in the first time..
[23:51] <sickgirl> Bashing-om: so I got all the default settings, and could customize everything
[23:52] <Bashing-om> sickgirl: Well, just goes to show what a "litte" reset can do !
[23:52] <sickgirl> Bashing-om:  haha it saved the night!
[23:53] <shaddowed> anyone knows how can you enable osd in mpv
[23:55] <zacts> which channel is for the ubuntu phone?
[23:55] <card> Aha!
[23:55] <card> Gparted can apparently re-build my MBR
[23:55] <card> apb1963, would you know if this would properly update it?
[23:57] <apb1963> card: experimentation is the key to knowledge :)  You could also take a look at this link, which sounds knowledgeable: http://robert.penz.name/221/mini-howto-restore-windows-mbrbootloader-with-linux/   if gparted says it will rebuild your MBR... it just might.  I've never done it.
[23:58] <card> Sorry, err, I read the link wrong
[23:58] <card> Gparted doesn't restore it, but a program claims to be able to do it
[23:58] <card> Hrm, your link seems useful
[23:58] <card> Thanks for the help, I'll check it out! ^.^
[23:59] <apb1963> sure thing.