[01:00] <pangaea_> hi all, i need some help
[01:01] <pangaea_> anyone out there???
[01:02] <holstein> pangaea_: just ask
[01:03] <pangaea_> cool ty
[01:05] <pangaea_> so new to ubuntu, chose studio cause i write music, sick of magix, anyway jack has me totally lost, here's my delema ...jackxalsaxstudio, can't seem to tie in to get usb mic running
[01:05] <holstein> !proaudio
[01:05] <holstein> pangaea_: what are you trying to do? maybe you dont need jack
[01:06] <pangaea_> meai'm in adour and can't get mic
[01:06] <holstein> pulse audio has nice routing features
[01:06] <holstein> maybe you dont need ardour
[01:06] <holstein> pangaea_: do you need the mic in ardour? what are you trying to do?
[01:06] <holstein> jack is not trivial..
[01:07] <pangaea_> record acoustic
[01:07] <pangaea_> i can lay down with audacity but no plug ins like drums....etc
[01:08] <holstein> pangaea_: you can "laydown" with audacity, and export to ardour, then
[01:08] <holstein> pangaea_: at your current level of config and skill
[01:08] <holstein> otherwise, just start learning jack
[01:08] <holstein> you can visit #opensourcemusicians
[01:09] <holstein> you basically use qjackctl to select the usb mic..
[01:09] <holstein> in "setup".. there are a few drop down menus that will show your device, hopefully
[01:09] <holstein> pangaea_: you are able to use jack with your other device? not the mic?
[01:10] <pangaea_> just audicity, i have a pro mic  samson
[01:11] <holstein> pangaea_: ok
[01:11] <holstein> pangaea_: i suggest this.. unplug that mic
[01:11] <pangaea_> i am copy and pasting advice to notes btw,
[01:11] <holstein> pangaea_: get used to jack, with i much simpler setup
[01:11] <holstein> pangaea_: dont try and record *anything*. just get jack running, on your internal audio device.. and play something from something simple like audacious
[01:12] <holstein> then, start ardour, and play something.. *then* record something into ardour.. *anything*... just not that mic yet
[01:12] <holstein> *then* after you got all that working, and stable, you can move on to the USB device.. and juggling the 2 devices in JACK
[01:12] <holstein> youll want to stop jack each time, and reconfigure for the usb mic, or the audio device you want to use for a monitor
[01:13] <holstein> you'll stop jack and all the jack apps close, and reopen
[01:13] <pangaea_> so jack is app dependent,
[01:13] <holstein> pangaea_: no
[01:13] <holstein> pangaea_: the apps that use jack use jack. when jack goes away for configuration, or stops, they are not using jack anymore.. they just sit there
[01:14] <holstein> pangaea_: you'll be thinking its broken, and wondering why things arent working.. but, its just fine
[01:14] <pangaea_> what i meant was jack has instances per app
[01:14] <holstein> you have to restart them
[01:14] <holstein> pangaea_: jack is just a server of sorts
[01:14] <pangaea_> ahhhh
[01:14] <holstein> pangaea_: each app can connect to jack
[01:15] <pangaea_> so think of it as float not an actual app
[01:15] <holstein> right.. jack is more like pulse, or alsa in that sense
[01:15] <pangaea_> ok
[01:15] <holstein> if alsa crashed, you might have to restart the web browser for example
[01:15] <pangaea_> man thanks your awesome!!!!!
[01:15] <pangaea_> been there
[01:16] <pangaea_> killed my hdmi input
[01:16] <holstein> pangaea_: well, lets get you making music, and we'll celebrate
[01:16] <pangaea_> ok so one last question
[01:16] <holstein> ok
[01:16] <pangaea_> what is the name of the jack i need to open when config, there is like 4 loaded by default
[01:17] <holstein> pangaea_: qjackctl is what i use
[01:17] <pangaea_> let me see if it's there
[01:17] <holstein> pangaea_: there are other tools, but they are newer, and i havent used them much
[01:18] <holstein> the folks in #opensourcemusicians would know.. carla, or whatever
[01:19] <pangaea_> got it, ok man thanks for pointing me in the right direction, i'm pretty good at production, magix, frooty loops, audacity, but adour looks like the way to go
[01:19] <holstein> pangaea_: it really is worth the investement of time
[01:19] <pangaea_> as far as plug ins midi? you agree or......
[01:19] <holstein> pangaea_: you mean, instrument?
[01:20] <holstein> pangaea_: nothing about linux or ubuntu is preventing anyone from releasing any instruments for the platform
[01:20] <pangaea_> yeah, drum kits, bass synth....the ins
[01:20] <holstein> pangaea_: there are lots of nice open source options, as well as native linux commercial options
[01:20] <holstein> not sure if you will get your specific needs met or not
[01:21] <holstein> anyways, the folks in #opensourcemusicians do more of that. i do mostly acoustic
[01:21] <pangaea_> i can do everything in magix, but tired of my recources getting killed by that dirty operating system
[01:21] <holstein> ok.. i gotta run.. but, please let us know how you get on with it..
[01:21] <pangaea_> ty ty ty ty
[01:21] <holstein> pangaea_: cheers and good luck
[05:55] <BlueMoon> hi
[12:13] <yorwos> hi every1 , my software updater today is including a patch called "get hot new stuff v3 library for kde platoform" , and i read its about sharing cababilities for kde applications.  Still im using ubuntustudio 13.10 with xfce? i suppose , will i break something if i dont apply this patch ? im concerned about privacy (not that i have any problem , just in theory)
[12:14] <yorwos> same goes for "kross ui library"
[12:15] <yorwos> actually i can see i have alot of kde updates
[12:15] <cfhowlett> yorwos why not just install kubuntu and then add the studio metapackages
[12:15] <zequence> yorwos: Some of the applications we distribute are KDE apps, and use KDE libs, so that is probably why
[12:16] <zequence> I think you should look at what that is, before you decide for yourself, and if you find it useful
[12:27] <yorwos> um no ty i dont plan to install kubuntu cause atm everything is so smooth with no problems
[12:27] <yorwos> ive tried studio 13.17 and another one but i didnt like em so much
[12:28] <yorwos> this is my current setup screenshot
[12:28] <yorwos> http://imgur.com/XfrWvJG
[12:29] <yorwos> im using almost all audio/graphics programs that came along with ubuntustudio
[12:29] <yorwos> im both a photographer and musician
[12:30] <cfhowlett> yorwos you seem to be missing a couple of very cool wallpapers I worked on :)  https://www.dropbox.com/sh/u77q82df1j0mw9g/AADsbkJnA6m_nzriQu1E4JMMa
[12:30] <yorwos> let me check em :D
[12:32] <yorwos> they r nice
[12:32] <yorwos> the bottom reflection on the red-orange-yellow is nice
[12:33] <yorwos> u could try change the colors to RGB or CMY for the graphic intention;
[12:34] <yorwos> but it looks nice this way dunno :)
[12:34] <yorwos> i dont like the ubuntu logo
[12:35] <yorwos> i liked the penguin of linux though a lot
[12:35] <cfhowlett> yorwos see the entire collection then: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/4ezsdk951znw5p3/AACj4Tsde6zNSQphzd8qD4o_a
[12:35] <yorwos> im on 2it :D
[12:36] <yorwos> oh they r cool i meant the main logo
[12:36] <yorwos> the labyrinth circle
[12:37] <cfhowlett> yorwos shitsukesens has a nice blue logo
[12:37] <yorwos> with the firestars yea
[12:37] <yorwos> fireworks*
[12:37] <yorwos> basically
[12:37] <yorwos> im making my own logo
[12:38] <yorwos> and i dont like it a lot
[12:38] <yorwos> and i look at other logos now and i like no1 of them
[12:39] <yorwos> this is my logo in the bottom right corner made with blender https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfEtJ0FC67E
[12:39] <cfhowlett> yorwos OK you asked for it ... https://www.dropbox.com/sh/i2he7yyy1y5alfs/AADnmEuEXX3Hqo2uPZFBl6Q6a
[12:40] <yorwos> the 1 with the fire is awsome
[12:40] <cfhowlett> yorwos waiting for your work now ...
[12:41] <yorwos> u want me to make a ubuntu logo ?
[12:41] <yorwos> what do u mean ? or get inspiration for mine ?
[12:41] <cfhowlett> yorwos wallpaper!
[12:41] <yorwos> aaaw
[12:41] <yorwos> :)
[12:42] <yorwos> i got the inferno white
[12:43] <yorwos> um where is my background folder ?
[12:43] <yorwos> i cant change it must put it in there
[12:43] <cfhowlett> yorwos what version of ubuntu?
[12:43] <yorwos> 13.10 studio
[12:45] <cfhowlett> yorwos I know it's a hidden .xfce4 / backgrounds folder - somewhere ...
[12:45] <yorwos> what do u think of my logo ? i think it needs more detail on the circle around my firm name ? what do u suggest ?
[12:46] <yorwos> um ill try #blender or something
[12:48] <yorwos> got it L:D
[20:27] <letstrythis> so linux limits nice priorities, or it's actually a relation to proce schedualling time?
[20:30] <letstrythis> if it's not a software limit/govenor, then the speed of the system, heavily influences time spent on schedualing...there still must be something in linux that is configurable, to decrease the time spent schedualing things?