| emma | How do I turn off baloo_file_extr ? | 00:05 |
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| emma | Its using 100 percent of my CPU and I think its making my computer freeze | 00:06 |
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| Chaser | emma: Ask baloo to exclude your home directory from indexing. Goto Settings -> Desktop Search. | 01:08 |
| rcw2 | is there a recently installed programs list somewhere | 01:48 |
| dk0r | when closing laptop lid (laptop connected to port replicator )4, kde .13.1 disables ALL screens including external displays. Any way to get an external display to be the primary display when the laptop is closed ( aka when laptop display is disabled) ?? | 01:50 |
| dk0r | correction: kde 4.13.1 on archlinux 3.14.5 | 01:51 |
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| TBotNik | All, trying to write a BASH script to find any/all USB flash drives, using CLI of: a.) dmesg |grep -i 'SCSI device', b.) fdisk -l | grep sdd, and c.) df -h | grep dev to create exposure VAR containing a.) Flash Name, b.) Size, c.) Available Space, d.) Mount point. Hope someone has some hints, cause been working on this a while and not getting where I want to go yet! | 05:28 |
| valorie | TBotNik: why not just `mount`? | 05:59 |
| TBotNik | valorie: Already have a mount script, but this is for manual backup process, to 64GB flash where backup incrementat pass file must be smaller than "Available Space" on the flash drive. | 06:06 |
| valorie | ah, I see | 06:07 |
| valorie | this isn't very kubuntu-specific; you might have better luck in ##linux | 06:07 |
| valorie | also, there is a #bash | 06:08 |
| TBotNik | valorie: Master script calls this script, which must have exposed VAR containing .) Drive Name, 2.) Drive Size, 3.) Space Available, 4.) Mount Point | 06:09 |
| lordievader | TBotNik: Do you know it's uuid? | 06:19 |
| lordievader | If so, I'd say you use that to mount it. Then you know everything you need to know (uuid + mount-point). | 06:21 |
| hateball | blkid is nice to fetch uid, if one knows other parameters | 06:25 |
| lordievader | Or the /dev/sdXY is one knows the UUID. | 06:31 |
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| alvin | TBotNik: Maybe you can do something with the udisks command | 08:24 |
| ovidiu-florin | my guest account won't log in | 08:31 |
| ovidiu-florin | what can I check? | 08:32 |
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| seth_ | привет всем, есть тут те кто по Русски понимает? :) | 09:33 |
| cornl_ | russian | 09:34 |
| seth_ | в общем такой вопрос: мне нужно чтобы на компе с кубунтой была расшарена папка для того чтоб на неё могли скидывать пользователи винд, но папка должна быть доступна даже если пользователь не авторизован | 09:35 |
| seth_ | то есть есть я как пользователь кубунты, у меня в компе есть учётка, пароль рута знаю, нужно сделать так чтоб даже если я не авторизовался, то расшареная папка всёравно чтоб была доступна | 09:36 |
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| seth_ | другим пользователям сети у которых винда начиная с XP до 7 | 09:36 |
| cornl_ | 7 | 09:37 |
| seth_ | повторил цифру... бот? | 09:37 |
| seth_ | 1 | 09:37 |
| seth_ | 2 | 09:37 |
| seth_ | нет, не бот :) | 09:37 |
| seth_ | help me | 09:38 |
| seth_ | I no speek English | 09:38 |
| lordievader | !ru | seth_ | 09:39 |
| ubottu | seth_: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. | 09:39 |
| cornl_ | i dont speak russian | 09:39 |
| seth_ | dont... ok :) I dont speak english :) | 09:40 |
| seth_ | thanks | 09:40 |
| cornl_ | Я не совсем понимаю ваш вопрос | 09:41 |
| cornl_ | seth_: Вы хотите поделиться папку, что лишь некоторые пользователи могут получить доступ? | 09:41 |
| seth_ | простите за глупые вопросы, просто я новичёк в линукс, за то давно пользуюсь Виндовс | 09:46 |
| seth_ | ещё вопрос: все папки и файлы открываются с одного клика. мне это очень не удобно, хочу чтоб открывалось с двоёного клика, а одним просто выделялось, где это настроить? | 09:48 |
| jubo2 | y0 gens | 09:55 |
| jubo2 | Shukran Shukran for this awesome Debian-derived candy we call Kubuntu | 09:55 |
| ikonia | ? | 09:56 |
| jubo2 | now that the mandatory thank-yous are out of the way: When is 14.04.1 coming out | 09:56 |
| cornl_ | shukran is arabic for thank you | 09:56 |
| ikonia | ah | 09:56 |
| jubo2 | I have some f-ed up OS'es here and I want clean install everything | 09:56 |
| ikonia | do you mean "broken" OS's | 09:56 |
| jubo2 | ikonia: yeahyeah.. when ain't compuutaaaaahs brokeh ? | 09:57 |
| ikonia | any chance you could just talk "normally" | 09:57 |
| ikonia | eg: "I have some computers with OS's that aren't working, I'm thinking about installing 14.04.1" | 09:57 |
| jubo2 | ikonia: jubo-jubo defies most norms | 09:57 |
| jubo2 | Ok.. I try that | 09:58 |
| ikonia | than please stop and actaully try to communicate normally, rather than this silly talk | 09:58 |
| jubo2 | Hello and big Thank You to all who contribute pull requests to upstream people with pull priviliges | 09:58 |
| jubo2 | I have some OS here who seem to have attitude and technical problems and I want to install Kubuntu 14.04.1 on both the netbook and the laptop so I was wondering if there are any news about when it will be out ? | 09:59 |
| Unit193 | The first point release is due in August. | 10:00 |
| jubo2 | RMS speaks of software freedom and fails to mention all the poor software is locked up in jails inside of jails inside of jails while incapacitated.. | 10:07 |
| ikonia | jubo2: that's not really anything to do with this channel | 10:08 |
| jubo2 | hahaha.. proprietary and closed source _should_ be locked up in jail and poked with stick millions of times to see how it reacts if it reacts | 10:08 |
| jubo2 | but taking pauvre free software and horribly perverting it while it is incapacitated is really nasty | 10:09 |
| ikonia | it's nothing to do with this channel | 10:09 |
| ikonia | please stop | 10:09 |
| jubo2 | ikonia: 'k 'k.. no jubo-jubo ramblings for #kubuntu | 10:09 |
| ikonia | thanks | 10:09 |
| yossarianuk | Are there any 'easy' guides to authenticate with AD domains ? | 10:20 |
| yossarianuk | the only way I have seen to 'easily' do it is with OpenSUSE/Yast.... | 10:20 |
| yossarianuk | is there an equivalent in kubuntu? | 10:21 |
| ikonia | I'm not aware of a config tool that sets it up for you | 10:21 |
| ikonia | but it's not that hard to do manually | 10:22 |
| ikonia | depending on if you just want to auth against the hash, or if you want to actually be a domain member | 10:22 |
| yossarianuk | its to become a member... | 10:23 |
| yossarianuk | are there any guides out thefre ? | 10:23 |
| yossarianuk | *there* | 10:24 |
| alvin | Is there anyone here who knows whether the Plasma Active project is still active? The last Kubuntu version I can find with it is 13.04 | 10:26 |
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| BluesKaj | 'Morning | 10:31 |
| tsimpson | alvin: perhaps #plasma knows | 10:31 |
| * alvin will ask in #plasma | 10:32 | |
| alvin | That reminds me. I pre-ordered the Vivaldi tablet :-) | 10:35 |
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| Dragnslicer | alvin- #active doesn't seem to have any discussion, but commit messages come through pretty often. You can get daily images at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-active/daily-live/ | 11:11 |
| alvin | Oh, didn't see that. I was looking at release. In #plasma they told me some good news. 'Active' will be integrated in Plasma Next (or 5). Project Neon should have an .iso I can test.µ | 11:13 |
| Walex2 | Trudko: there are a few others... Boinc however has the most popular | 11:39 |
| Walex2 | yossarianuk: authentication with AD is in theory very easy: just Kerberos. But you have to register the host and a few other annoying details/ | 11:41 |
| Walex2 | yossarianuk: but there are many HOWTOs, including written by Microsoft themselves. | 11:41 |
| jubo2 | Is there a straight-forward way to enable both ethernet to hardline and WiFi interfaces and instruct programs to use one or other interface for their internetworking needs ? | 11:41 |
| Walex2 | jubo2: "straightforward" for some and not so "straightforward" for others... | 11:42 |
| jubo2 | I mean I have a HSPA+ modem with li-ion battery, WiFi hotspot with minimal ui | 11:42 |
| jubo2 | Walex2: I've been using Linuxen since '96 | 11:42 |
| jubo2 | So I know some but not very much | 11:42 |
| Walex2 | jubo2: lots of people have 20-30-40-50 years experience and don't understand much of it :-) and not just in IT | 11:42 |
| Walex2 | jubo2: the big question is whether the wired and WiFi subnets are the same or distinct. | 11:43 |
| jubo2 | distinct | 11:43 |
| Walex2 | jubo2: if they are distinct as they should you can use routing metrics and routing rules to put some traffic on one and some on another. | 11:43 |
| jubo2 | the ethernet goes to ADSL box and the WiFi goes to HSPA+ modem | 11:44 |
| jubo2 | Walex2: that's not straightforward to me. | 11:44 |
| jubo2 | Walex2: where can I configure this "routing metrics" | 11:44 |
| jubo2 | /etc/something/something ? | 11:45 |
| Walex2 | jubo2: and how do you expect to do it other by routijng then? :-) You have somehow to classify traffic in "this goes here" and "this goes there". | 11:45 |
| Walex2 | jubo2: usually you attach them to default routes wherever they are configured. | 11:45 |
| jubo2 | Yeah.. That is what I want | 11:45 |
| Walex2 | jubo2: also most network configuration systems allow you to add static routes and you can attach metrics to them | 11:46 |
| jubo2 | I think I'm going to get the wireless 3.9G modem ( it's at 144€ /w 24 month interest free plan ) | 11:46 |
| alvin | There's also the (relatively new) Multipath TCP, but that requires the server to understand it too. | 11:46 |
| Walex2 | jubo2: as a rule buying the modem outright is a lot cheaper than buying it via a plan... | 11:46 |
| jubo2 | I just want irc to not squeal that I'm at my hardline location | 11:46 |
| jubo2 | Walex2: not in Finlan | 11:47 |
| Walex2 | alvin: one day, one day :-) | 11:47 |
| yossarianuk | Walex2: thanks | 11:47 |
| yossarianuk | Walex2: I personally hat e | 11:47 |
| Walex2 | and everybody will have switched to SCTP over IPv6 :-) | 11:48 |
| yossarianuk | *hate* anything Windows related. | 11:48 |
| jubo2 | Walex2: what's SCTP | 11:49 |
| Walex2 | yossarianuk: you have to ask you MS-AD contact to create a "host account" for you, then you get the host keytab as usual, and then you can authenticate | 11:49 |
| BluesKaj | jubo2, just ask to cloak your nick at #freenode if you don't want irc to see your connection | 11:49 |
| jubo2 | BluesKaj: doesn't work.. it just produces 3 lines of garbage to the channel: #1 joined #2 left for cloak change #joined with cloak on | 11:50 |
| Walex2 | jubo2: a new IP-based protocol with a number of improvements over TCP. But while it is widely implemented nobody uses it (usually chicken-and-egg) | 11:50 |
| yossarianuk | Walex2: cheers - as mentioned the only way I have connected is via opensuse/yast - just a matter of 1. Open YAST and go Network Services -> Windows Domain Membership 2. enter domain 3. enter domain manager credentials | 11:50 |
| Walex2 | yossarianuk: that's cheating :-) | 11:51 |
| jubo2 | Walex2: ahaa i c. I'm placing my bets on http://MaidSafe.net to provide me with storage superior to legacy cloud systems for tens and tens of years | 11:51 |
| Walex2 | jubo2: that's optimistic :-) | 11:51 |
| jubo2 | hell.. I think it likely that many municipalities and even whole state start to rely on the MaidSafe as their primare storage media | 11:51 |
| BluesKaj | jubo2, that's odd | 11:51 |
| jubo2 | the OS'es, the apps and the data can persist for hundereds of years in the MaidSafe network(s) if the "Tragedy of Commons" or some other threat does not materialize | 11:52 |
| BluesKaj | jubo2, perhaps choose some different servers as default for your freenode connections | 11:53 |
| jubo2 | Check the 3-page paper on Self-Authentication -> https://github.com/maidsafe/MaidSafe/wiki/unpublished_papers/SelfAuthentication.pdf <- completely removes the need for the 3rd party to authenticate self to network and gain access to all keys and all encrypted chunks | 11:54 |
| jubo2 | pretty cool stuff ehh ? | 11:54 |
| jubo2 | MaidSafe cannot be DDoS per se | 11:55 |
| jubo2 | The optimistic routing will route around any efforts to DDoS | 11:55 |
| jubo2 | the optimistic routing also implements the feature that the more people want to download a said file or said directory the faster the download gets for all who've not speed constrictions in their Interweb connection | 11:56 |
| jubo2 | like in bittorrent | 11:56 |
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| jubo2 | "We could patch in the Legacy Internet onto this new network but really, why bother?" ~ http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Some_guy 2017-18ish | 12:01 |
| jubo2 | I mean what the legacy internet gives pervs and pedos and what MaidSafe.. uhh.. | 12:01 |
| jubo2 | MaidSafe gives people the freedom to store anything securely, freely and privately | 12:02 |
| jubo2 | 'tis be a feature and a bug | 12:02 |
| jubo2 | The anti-perv ops can be in meatspace | 12:03 |
| jubo2 | so no prob that cannot stop people from stashing their porn of various dubiousness | 12:03 |
| jubo2 | err.. s/no/not a major/ | 12:05 |
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| rcw2 | hi, after the grub menu, there's a dump to busybox. it was suggested to change the UUID in grub to /dev/sdaX (using 'e' at the menu) but that didn't resolve the issue. any thoughts? | 12:44 |
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| Guest22449 | any comments on my issue above? (as user: rcw2) | 13:13 |
| BluesKaj | can you boot into kubuntu at all or tty or? | 13:14 |
| Guest22449 | no, just busybox | 13:15 |
| Walex2 | Guest22449: it can depend on very many things | 13:15 |
| Walex2 | Guest22449: it is very unlikely that the filesystem UUID just changed by itself. | 13:15 |
| Guest22449 | Walex2: what do you mean | 13:16 |
| Walex2 | Guest22449: also IIRC the UUID that matters is the one in the 'initrd', which is a pity. | 13:16 |
| Guest22449 | i ran fsck -y /dev/sda5 and that fixed some time issues, but still its busybox only | 13:17 |
| Walex2 | Guest22449: if your problem is that the booting system cannot mount the root filetree, because it cannot find a filetree with the right UUID, then changing it will work. | 13:17 |
| Walex2 | Guest22449: UUID is one of the ways in which the booting system can identify which filetree is the root one | 13:17 |
| Guest22449 | Walex2: do you suspect there's a filetree that's not being discovered | 13:24 |
| Guest22449 | how would i know | 13:24 |
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| vbgunz | I have this interesting problem after just updating my 14.04 system. For some reason Kate is starting up with the system and I have to kill it because it won't let the system finish starting. I don't know why Kate is starting, I have a blank clean session set to start at the beginning of every login. I shouldn't be launching Kate any other way but insist on starting with the system and freezing everything in the process | 16:10 |
| vbgunz | I'm guessing not enough people here figured out why kate is starting up with their system and it's for some reason completely locking them out. at least I'm first :) | 16:15 |
| vbgunz | on a serious note though, I have no idea why it's starting, it shouldn't and it's freezing the system :/ | 16:15 |
| Walex2 | vbgunz: probably people who have the same issue can't login to report the issue on IRC :-) | 16:38 |
| Walex2 | vbgunz: it would help if you used more technical/precise descriptions rather than "freezing the system". | 16:39 |
| Walex2 | vbgunz: for example at which point that "freezing the system" happens. | 16:39 |
| Walex2 | vbgunz: in an ideal world you would even describe what you actually see on your screen instead of reporting what you think it means... :-) | 16:40 |
| windows2019 | :)) | 16:41 |
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| vbgunz | Walex2: I'd like to improve Kubuntu, I love it but don't feel I can call bugs on threads when I don't know what's happening at all. Maybe had someone else had the issue and could confirm it, I'd do that :) | 16:42 |
| vbgunz | By system I agree is a vague use of the word, I meant KDE mostly. I can go through all the motions until I reach the actual desktop in which case I see my desktop but most interactivity is lost. Had I not spotted Kate in my panel, I'd basically look at very broken interactivity | 16:44 |
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| witalik_murmansk | Hi | 16:45 |
| vbgunz | It's probably something stupid and dumb on my part. Maybe I'm missing something, don't want to start something over nothing :) | 16:45 |
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| Windows3000 | Ukraina news !!! https://vk.com/vkukraina | 16:48 |
| Walex2 | vbgunz: you are still not describing what you are actually seeing on the screen instead of what you think it means... | 16:50 |
| Walex2 | vbgunz: except that you see your "desktop". Does that means that you can successfully login to the graphical login thingie? | 16:51 |
| Walex2 | vbgunz: does the "system" actually finish booting and presents you with a login screen? | 16:51 |
| vbgunz | Desktop, panels, KDE, icons are all visible after logging in. I have a mouse, some interactivity (can right click system tray, desktop), but can't left click others like menu, shortcuts. global shortcuts like Ctrl Esc don't work either, neither Krunner, and others. It's a mix of working not working but mostly not working. All until I switch to tty 1 and kill kate | 16:53 |
| vbgunz | I don't know why kate is starting up and bothering me about this | 16:54 |
| vbgunz | I'm just doing other things and can't dive into it at the moment :) | 16:55 |
| Walex2 | vbgunz: most likely you have put 'kate' in the autostart and it is prompting you about which session profile to open | 16:57 |
| rcw2 | you know what's great about the kubuntu install dvd? you can just create a temp partition and start to install linux on it and it captures the MBR | 17:00 |
| DarthFrog | Captures the MBR? What does that mean? | 17:03 |
| TheFakeazneD525 | Maybe they meant overwrites | 17:04 |
| TheFakeazneD525 | with grub | 17:04 |
| TBotNik | All: Running CLI: dmesg | grep -i 'scsi' | grep -i removable, need to parse result of: [ 344.636679] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk, to get the "SDC" value. Where is a good HOWTO on this, been searching 3 days for this solution. | 17:07 |
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| TBotNik | All, having issues with udev, udevinfo always says: "udevinfo: command not found" even after "apt-get -f install udev" | 17:21 |
| TBotNik | on Kubuntu 12.04 LTS | 17:21 |
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| TBotNik | All, Repeating: Having issues with udev, udevinfo always says: "udevinfo: command not found" even after "apt-get -f install udev". I'm on Kubuntu 12.04 LTS | 17:32 |
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| SamwiseGamgee | How can I see the size of the folders in my Hhome directory? Can Dolphin do that? | 18:53 |
| SamwiseGamgee | When I use dolphin, it shows the number of items in each folder, but the size in MiB does not make sense. The files sizes it shows are always too small. It looks like the size it always shows is not the actual size but only the size of the biggest file. | 18:58 |
| lordievader | SamwiseGamgee: du -hs ~/* | 18:59 |
| SamwiseGamgee | What does that do? Is that a command? | 18:59 |
| claydoh | TBotNik: use udevadm instead, this has replaced udevinfo | 18:59 |
| lordievader | SamwiseGamgee: Yes a terminal command, its shows the sizes of folders in the home dir. | 19:00 |
| SamwiseGamgee | Iḿ using Kubuntu 12.04, so which command will work? | 19:00 |
| SamwiseGamgee | Oh right, I guess Kubuntu has nothing to do with terminal commands, right? | 19:01 |
| bprompt | kinda | 19:01 |
| bprompt | usually no | 19:02 |
| benjamin___ | hi? | 19:02 |
| lordievader | SamwiseGamgee: Nope, it will work. du is an old command. Wouldn't be surprised if Unix had it. | 19:02 |
| lordievader | benjamin___: o/ | 19:02 |
| SamwiseGamgee | thanks, I will try those commands from the terminal konsole | 19:03 |
| bprompt | SamwiseGamgee: are you trying to get a "bytes" file size readout from dolphin? | 19:03 |
| SamwiseGamgee | No, MiB | 19:03 |
| bprompt | as opposed to Mb/kb/gb | 19:03 |
| bprompt | hmm | 19:03 |
| bprompt | SamwiseGamgee: it does that by default | 19:03 |
| SamwiseGamgee | My hard drive has 466 GB and the home directory is inside it | 19:04 |
| bprompt | so | 19:04 |
| bprompt | bear in mind that computers do not use the metric system for their base numbering... they use 1024 | 19:05 |
| SamwiseGamgee | So, I´m dealing mostly with Megabytes and Gigabytes | 19:05 |
| bprompt | so 1,000,000 is NOT a Mb | 19:05 |
| bprompt | 1,000,000kbs that is | 19:05 |
| SamwiseGamgee | Hey, I think 1 MiB is one million Kilobytes, right? | 19:06 |
| bprompt | 1024kbs | 19:06 |
| bprompt | so when you do the conversion using the 1024 base for the value provided in bytes, you'll notice dolphin is likely giving the correct value | 19:07 |
| SamwiseGamgee | Sorry, I thought 1 megabyte is 1,024 KB, but 1 MiB is 1,000 kilobytes | 19:07 |
| bprompt | hmm the former | 19:07 |
| bprompt | 1,024Kbs === 1Mb | 19:07 |
| lordievader | -s | 19:08 |
| bprompt | bear in mind that computers do not use the metric system for their base numbering... they use 1024 | 19:08 |
| SamwiseGamgee | Dolphin is showing memory sizes using this notation: MiB, KiB | 19:08 |
| bprompt | and yes, I'm aware that HD manufacturers use the metric when they ship HDD, which really doesn't make much sense to me, I guess is just a gimmick to make it sound bigger than what it actually is | 19:09 |
| SamwiseGamgee | And I thought that is the new system that is metric, meaning based on powers of ten | 19:09 |
| bprompt | SamwiseGamgee: so you'd rather have "bytes" showing? | 19:09 |
| SamwiseGamgee | I´m used to the old binary system | 19:09 |
| SamwiseGamgee | I have always assumed that 1 KB is 1,024 bytes, one MB is 1,024 KB, and one GB is 1,024 MB | 19:11 |
| bprompt | SamwiseGamgee: still so in computing measurements | 19:11 |
| SamwiseGamgee | Does Dolphin use the metric system or the binary system when it shows 1 MiB? Like how many bytes is 1 MiB according to Dolphin? | 19:12 |
| bprompt | 1,024Kbs === 1Mb | 19:12 |
| bprompt | SamwiseGamgee: I do not recall that ever changing for computer standards or any ISO changes to that effect | 19:13 |
| checksumJack | 1KiB = 1024 Byte | 19:13 |
| bprompt | and yes, I'm aware that HD manufacturers use the metric when they ship HDD, which really doesn't make much sense to me, I guess is just a gimmick to make it sound bigger than what it actually is | 19:13 |
| checksumJack | Use the binary prefixes | 19:13 |
| checksumJack | 1 KiB = 2^20 | 19:14 |
| CodePulsar | Does Kubuntu 14.04 come with a cron job for SSD TRIM when enabling encryption at installation time ? | 19:14 |
| checksumJack | 1 KB = 10^2 | 19:14 |
| SamwiseGamgee | Oh, I see, MiB and KiB are the binary system. They added the letter ¨i¨ to show you that they are still using the binary system. if you take out the i, then you are going metric, to powers of ten, right? | 19:15 |
| checksumJack | yes | 19:16 |
| checksumJack | sorry it is 1 KiB = 2^10 not 2^20 | 19:17 |
| checksumJack | MiB = 2^20 | 19:17 |
| SamwiseGamgee | Therefore, 1 MiB = 1,048,576 bytes, or 1,024 KiB, or 2>20 bytes, or 1,024>2 bytes | 19:18 |
| checksumJack | yes | 19:18 |
| bprompt | SamwiseGamgee: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kibibyte | 19:18 |
| SamwiseGamgee | Ok, good, I can stick with what I know: binary | 19:19 |
| SamwiseGamgee | Now I can try the memory size commands, thanks again | 19:19 |
| bprompt | hehe | 19:20 |
| SamwiseGamgee | I already read that article last year | 19:20 |
| SamwiseGamgee | the reason I got confused is they changed the meaning of the old binary terms. Terms we had been using for years. that is very confusing | 19:22 |
| bprompt | "they" changed? | 19:23 |
| bprompt | the iso? ansi? | 19:23 |
| checksumJack | the unix command du or free print power of 1024. If you add --si it uses power of 1000 | 19:25 |
| bprompt | vendors like hdd vendors, ship their product using the metric system, as I said, makes no sense because, it claims 1TB, or 1,204Mbs but once you stick in the computer, it doesn't show 1terrabyte, it goes below once the conversion goes to 1024, so they really meant 1trillion bytes, wich is not the same as 1terrabyte | 19:26 |
| SamwiseGamgee | The people who decided to change the meaning of such commonly used memory terms for so many years, obviously do not understand how human memory works. Try rewriting the definitions in the Oxford dictionary, too, and see how that affects the memory of English speakers. That´s a good analogy, I think. | 19:27 |
| bprompt | more like a marketing gimmick then actual useful information about the product | 19:27 |
| SamwiseGamgee | Don´t frack with something when it works, is my motto | 19:27 |
| bprompt | SamwiseGamgee: btw, that's no true of memory vendors, if you buy a 2Gbs ddr3 memory stick, labeled so in the stick, you put in the machine, it shows 2Gbs | 19:28 |
| bprompt | where I see that is mostly the hdd vendors | 19:28 |
| SamwiseGamgee | Speaking of memory, I need to buy some new memory sticks to get more RAM. Can I get all the info I need to buy the new memory sticks by just reading the label stuck onto my old RAM memory sticks? | 19:29 |
| checksumJack | RAM is labeled as GiB and HDD is labeled as GB. | 19:30 |
| SamwiseGamgee | these are 10 year old memory sticks | 19:30 |
| checksumJack | So a 1 Terrabyte hdd is 10^12 Byte and not 2^40 = 1TiB | 19:30 |
| SamwiseGamgee | On the ChIPs of each memory stick is written value select CORSAIR VS256MB266 0251027 | 19:34 |
| SamwiseGamgee | oh, that´s the label | 19:34 |
| SamwiseGamgee | on each CHIP is written FB 0247 S80016VH7TW -75 | 19:35 |
| SamwiseGamgee | May be I´m getting into a hardware discussion here, sorry | 19:36 |
| lordievader | SamwiseGamgee: lshw tells you enough, what type, speed, size, etc. | 19:37 |
| SamwiseGamgee | you mean my memory sticks? | 19:38 |
| SamwiseGamgee | what is lshw? is that a command? | 19:38 |
| lordievader | SamwiseGamgee: Yes, it shows what kind of hardware is in your system. | 19:39 |
| bprompt | RAM is labeled as GiB and HDD is labeled as GB. <---- yes, but that's just a marketing pun, because when people buy it, they expect it to be THAT size in the machine for their storage | 19:39 |
| SamwiseGamgee | the memory sticks I am replacing are in another PC | 19:39 |
| bprompt | that's kinda going to buy a mouse for the computer, and when you get home and open the box, a rodent comes out it | 19:40 |
| bprompt | sure, they can claim, " well, ahhh you asked for a mouse" but that's just a pun | 19:41 |
| SamwiseGamgee | yeah, it´s confusing when one term can have two very different meanings | 19:41 |
| bprompt | no computer hardware that I know of uses metric system for storage, so the units labeled on those hdd are misleading | 19:42 |
| SamwiseGamgee | Can you access those UNIX commands on any 10-year old PC? I have never tried to access the UNIX commands on my old Athlon PC which has a VIA KT333 Chipset Based KT3 Ultra2 series motherboard | 19:45 |
| SamwiseGamgee | For exammple, is lshw a UNIX command, can I call it that? | 19:47 |
| bprompt | SamwiseGamgee: lshw? not sure.... 10 years... that means 2004..... not sure if it was there | 19:47 |
| bprompt | SamwiseGamgee: | 19:48 |
| SamwiseGamgee | the manual for my motherboard was published in June 2002 | 19:48 |
| bprompt | SamwiseGamgee: "dmesg" would be there, and that gives the hardware listing | 19:48 |
| SamwiseGamgee | Does that mean my motherboard was manufactured before June 2002? | 19:49 |
| bprompt | likely yes | 19:50 |
| bprompt | or before, depends | 19:50 |
| SamwiseGamgee | Wow, that means my motherboard is 12 years old, at least | 19:50 |
| bprompt | yes, doesn't mean is horrible either | 19:51 |
| bprompt | "best" is always relative | 19:52 |
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| SamwiseGamgee | It´s hard to read the writing on the receipt, but it looks like my brother purchased this motherboard January 6, 2002 | 19:56 |
| SamwiseGamgee | That does not make sense, how could he get a user manual published five months after he bought the motherboard, if the user manual came in the same box as the motherboard? | 19:59 |
| CodePulsar | Does the section "For ecrypted partitions" from http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/enable-trim-on-ssd-solid-state-drives.html apply to Kubuntu 14.04 as well ? | 19:59 |
| TBotNik | All: Helping me on my drive sizing script THANKS! Final working code at: http://paste.debian.net/103633/ | 19:59 |
| SamwiseGamgee | is there a way to use AMIBIOS to get to a UNIX command terminal? | 20:01 |
| SamwiseGamgee | lordievader´s command is the only one that worked, thanks | 20:39 |
| SamwiseGamgee | they told me lshw tells you all about your memory sticks, but no OS is installed in my old Athlon PC now, so can I use AMIBIOS to get to a command terminal? | 20:43 |
| SamwiseGamgee | lordievader | 20:43 |
| SamwiseGamgee | to get a UNIX command terminal, lordievader? | 20:43 |
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| wxl | hey folks is there anyway to make a panel maximized via a config file of some kind? | 22:11 |
| wxl | i have two monitors and the second one, if i click on panel options, shows the options for a second and then they disappear | 22:11 |
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| dougiel | can I install gnome without borking my kubuntu14.04 install? | 23:02 |
| TheFakeazneD525 | sure | 23:03 |
| TheFakeazneD525 | you can install as many DE's and WM's as you see fit | 23:03 |
| TheFakeazneD525 | (and that don't have conflicting deps) | 23:03 |
| dougiel | just want gnome to match my OSX machine on the same desk | 23:04 |
| TheFakeazneD525 | Ah, I understand, but yeah | 23:05 |
| TheFakeazneD525 | it shouldn't cause any problems... | 23:05 |
| dougiel | but I installed kubuntu already | 23:05 |
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