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caribouhallyn: did someone report issues with dnsmasq spinning up at 100% CPU on Trusty ?11:21
caribouhallyn: the dsnmasq processes started by libvirt-bin btw11:21
bobharryCan someone help me with this issue with mysql not installing correctly http://paste.ubuntu.com/7594137/11:48
bobharryCan someone help me with this issue with mysql not installing correctly http://paste.ubuntu.com/7594137/12:03
bobharryCan someone help me with this issue with mysql not installing correctly http://paste.ubuntu.com/7594137/12:08
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bobharryCan someone help me with this issue with mysql not installing correctly http://paste.ubuntu.com/7594137/12:36
cfhowlettbobharry ask the ##liinux channel12:37
bobharryUrgh everyone keeps directing me xD12:39
zetheroofor a while now we have been looking to replace out Windows 2003 server with something open source, and we were looking at Zentyal lately, but are now looking to other options - so I am wondering if Ubuntu Server is able to do what Zentyal does - we are looking primarily for replacement of AD12:48
f0x_Dear all, i have a question about Ubuntu MAAS this is the right section ?13:02
rbasakf0x_: #maas is probably best, but here would also be fine. The MAAS devs follow #maas more closely though.13:05
rbasakzetheroo: Zentyal is based on Ubuntu AFAIK. We have Zentyal packages that the Zentyal guys pushed a couple of cycles ago. I'm not sure of current status, so probably best to check with them.13:06
zetheroorbasak: right, but without Zentyal packages can Ubuntu Server do the same things more or less?13:07
rbasakzetheroo: as far as I'm aware, yes. The point of Zentyal is to make it easy. That's AFAIK - I have no direct experience.13:07
zetheroorbasak: ok13:07
rbasakIt's rare to see AD/Samba questions on this channel though.13:08
rbasakYou're welcome here if you're using Ubuntu Server to do it of course, but you may have issues getting help without clubbing together with the guys working on the stuff all the time.13:08
zetheroodoes that mean nobody is really doing this?13:08
rbasakI used to do this kind of thing for a living. With samba. I wasn't on IRC much at that time though.13:08
rbasakSo there probably are, but I don't know of a good rallying point.13:08
zetherooI see13:09
rbasakzetheroo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Enterprise might be of help.13:10
rbasakI see recent and relevant-looking threads on https://lists.launchpad.net/enterprise-ubuntu/13:10
rbasakSo https://launchpad.net/~enterprise-ubuntu13:10
f0x_Thanks for replay, my question is verry simple, at my work i have serveral PCS's, and my objective is to use all these PCS's to process some data at night, and i need a MAAS server that boot all machines on a LIVE Ubuntu, it is possible ?13:10
rbasakThat's not what MAAS is really meant for. You might be able to hack it, but it might be easier to just do it by hand - it's quite far off the main MAAS use case.13:11
f0x_Ok, mass is designed to install OS's no ?13:13
cfhowlettrbasak I am NOT a sysadmin and have no experience but wouldnt the LTSP method that edubuntu be the right solution in his case?13:13
rbasakf0x_: it's designed to give you a cloud-like API with OS installation happening in the background as needed. So MAAS owns your workstation's hard drives. OTOH you can hack it, eg. in commissioning mode it runs on an ephemeral image without touching the disk.13:14
rbasakf0x_: however, you're departing from the use case, so you'll need to be able to grok the code and hack it yourself really. If you aren't comfortable doing that directly yourself I'd avoid it.13:15
rbasakcfhowlett: I'm unfamiliar with that, but that sounds like a good avenue to investigate. LTSP-style seems like a better fit to me if the goal is to not take over the machine's disk.13:15
cfhowlett!ltsp13:16
ubottuLTSP is the Linux Terminal Server Project, which adds thin-client support to Linux servers. See chapter 3 of the !edubuntuhandbook, http://www.ltsp.org and/or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Terminal_Server_Project13:16
f0x_Thanks for the quick answers, so its better for me to manualy create a PXE infrastructure than hacking MAAS ?13:16
rbasakf0x_: I'd say it's an either way thing, but to hack MAAS you'll need to understand PXE *and* what MAAS already tries to do for you.13:16
rbasakI'm not sure you'll get much benefit from it.13:16
f0x_The problem is that we need an infrastructure as i describbed, and don't know what is the faster and easyest way to do that13:17
f0x_DO you have a suggestion for me ?13:18
rbasakf0x_: maybe LTSP is your best bet. Failing that I think you'll either need to do a ton of research and experimentation or bring someone in.13:32
jrwrenf0x_: imo manually craeteing a PXE is not much more difficult than either of those 2 things.13:32
rbasakI could do it too myself, no problem. I just wonder how hard it is for someone unfamiliar with all the pieces13:33
rbasakI can imagine myself spending a week figuring it out if I didn't know about it already13:34
ndee_hey guys, how do you get around long fsck times when you reboot a server which uses ext3 as a file-system?13:34
rbasakndee_: are you sure you're using ext3? It's the same as ext2 but with a journal, and one of the benefits is that you get fast recovery. So are you sure you have a journal?13:35
jrwrenndee_: we use XFS instead. sorry, that isn't a good answer :(13:36
rbasakndee_: Oh, or are you talking about scheduled checks? You can tune the frequency of those with tune2fs.13:36
ndee_jup, in the /etc/fstab, the "type" is ext3.13:36
ndee_rbasak I rebooted a production server and it told me after 377 days, there should be a fsck and it took longer than 30 minutes, so I had to cancel it since it was a production server13:37
rbasakndee_: right, OK. Yeah, use tune2fs to adjust that.13:37
rbasakOr turn it entirely off if you want.13:37
rbasakYou can also use tune2fs to detect if there will be a check on next reboot.13:37
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rbasakCreate a monitoring check for that status, schedule downtime, etc :)13:38
ndee_rbasak: guess that's the way to go ;)13:48
tych0hi rbasak, did you see https://code.launchpad.net/~tycho-s/uvtool/no-start/+merge/222049 ?13:53
rbasaktych0: yes. Sorry I've not looked at it yet. Sounds absolutely fine to me.13:56
* rbasak needs to find some time to work on all the outstanding uvtool stuff :-/13:57
rbasakThere's a progress bar MP as well13:57
tych0rbasak: ok, no worries13:57
tych0just wanted to make sure you saw it13:58
tych0and it didn't get buried in some set of launchpad emails :-)13:58
tomdickharryhey folks I purged maria db 10 and added maria 5.5 to apt list13:59
tomdickharrynow when I run apt-get install I get  Errors were encountered while processing:  /var/cache/apt/archives/mariadb-server-5.5_5.5.37+maria-1~trusty_amd64.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)14:00
tomdickharryany ideas how to fix it?14:00
rbasaktomdickharry: try clearing out /var/lib/mysql. There's no migration path for the actual database I don't think.14:01
EzeQLAnyone working with sublimetext3 and ubuntu 14.04?14:02
kotedo`Hi guys!  I am trying to figure out how I can see the compiler flags for openssl14:20
rbasakkotedo`: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+archive/ppa/+build/6062683 and click on buildlog14:30
rbasakkotedo`: you can get there from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl if you click through the version and architecture14:30
kotedorbasak: Fantastic!  Thank you so much!14:32
tomdickharry rbasak u mean delete /var/lib/mysql ?14:34
kotedorbasak: Maybe I am not seeing it ... Where do I see the compilerflags per OpenSSL build?14:35
rbasakkotedo: well, you can see each compiler call line, with flags included14:36
tomdickharryin makefile?14:36
rbasakThat's everything it was actually built with, as opposed to what any build component tried to do.14:36
hallyncaribou: hi, it rings a bell, but offhand i' not sure.  actually i think there are bugs about *any* dnsmasq taking 100% cpu14:39
caribouhallyn: that was my suspicion. I'm getting this rather often these days; I'll try to look into it14:40
tomdickharryrbasak: working14:41
tomdickharrycheers14:41
hallyncaribou: i gues i was thinking bug 131469714:42
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1314697 in dnsmasq "DNS resolution no longer works; dnsmasq uses 100% CPU" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131469714:42
hallynexcept that was on utopic only14:42
hallynso best to file a new bug :)14:42
caribouhallyn: I started to get this soon after trusty release14:42
hallynhm, i've been running utopic until yesterday afternoon (downgraded to trusty temporarily bc utopic was unusably unstable)14:43
caribouhallyn: ok will look into this; I'm hitting this almost daily14:45
hallynzul: yo16:12
zulhallyn:  whats up16:13
hallynzul: ppl need bug 1321365 fixed.  if you're not ready with the 1.2.5 for me to test (last i checked it was ftbfs) i will go ahead and push a fix on the current version16:13
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1321365 in libvirt "virsh (ppc) fails with "missing /proc/device-tree/cpu "" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132136516:13
hallyn(see the dup)16:13
hallynit's a 2 line change, no biggie, i don't mind doing it on the old version,16:14
zulhallyn:  lemme do one more build and upload to the ppa,16:14
zulhallyn:  sorry i got sidetracked16:14
hallynok, and you ahve the fix for 1321365 in there?16:14
dw1http://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_20140605.txt16:15
hallyni'll prep my tester16:15
hallyndw1: yeah seeing that posted in every irc channel just about :)16:15
dw1hallyn: ahh good :)16:15
hallyndw1: presumably #ubuntu-hardened is all over it16:15
dw1cool a security team :)16:16
hallyna security blanket16:16
dw1haha16:16
* dw1 goes back to sleep16:16
zulhallyn:  just added it16:18
hallynthx16:18
jdstranddw1: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2232-1/16:24
dw1ah-mazin' great work16:25
zulhallyn:  doing a testbuild first16:25
zulhallyn:  still failing for me can you upload the apparmor fix to the one that is in the archive now?17:04
hallynzul: will do17:04
hallynzul: i'm surprised though.  it built for me locally the other day with ebtables installed17:05
hallyn(pushed)17:08
RoyKhttps://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2014/msg00129.html how fun18:51
pmatulisyep18:53
qmanYeah, been patching servers all morning18:54
qmanNo squeeze patch (yet?)18:54
RoyKperhaps someone should hire a bunch of programmers to do a code review of openssl :P18:54
RoyKor a rewrite :P18:54
RoyKOpenSSL (...) is a catastrophe waiting to happen.  In fact, the only thing that prevents attackers from  exploiting problems more actively, is that the source code is fundamentally unreadable and  impenetrable. -- Poul-Henning Kamp, 201018:55
pmatulisRoyK: OpenBSD is re-writing18:55
RoyKpmatulis: nice - got a link to that project?18:55
RoyK(not openbsd)18:55
pmatulisRoyK: not handy no18:55
qmanhttp://www.libressl.org/18:55
pmatulisah yeah, that's the one18:55
RoyKgoogle knows18:55
RoyKhttp://beta.slashdot.org/story/20077518:56
RoyK At the moment we are too busy deleting and rewriting code to make a decent web page. No we don't want help making web pages, thank you.18:56
RoyKlol18:56
willwhiteAnyone else seeing "Hash Sum mismatch" when running `apt-get update` on new instances booted from 14.04 instance-store AMI in us-east-1 (ami-3adb2f52) ?18:57
qmanAlso, no 12.04 libssl0.9.8 patch18:58
qmanOnly libssl1.0.018:58
RoyKThe NSA Is Behind This (tm)18:59
RoyK:)18:59
sarnoldheh, I bet the libressl guys are feeling pretty cocky about dropping dtls support..19:00
RoyKerm. why?19:04
sarnoldRoyK: at least two of the CVEs in today's pile were DTLS-specific19:13
RoyKah19:18
mdeslaursarnold: when did they drop dtls support?19:41
axisyslsof | grep tls shows every sshd process has /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgnutls.so.26.21.8 .. anyone else seeing it on 12.04 lts ?19:47
sarnoldmdeslaur: drat, the freshbsd site with the commits is down and I can't find what I was thinking of on opensslrampage.org. I must have been wrong but I'd love to know what I was thinking of.19:47
mdeslaursarnold: you were thinking of heartbeats19:47
mdeslaurall the issues were present in the libressl code base when I checked this morning19:47
sarnoldmdeslaur: I thought it was something Big that someone would care about..19:47
axisysany idea why sshd process maps has gnutls library in 12.04 tls ? did not find much in google20:08
sudormrfhey guys, I am trying to understand repos a bit better.  I am working on testing something with a group of people.  one person synced a file to a repo, but the repo is not pingable or browseable so I think it won't work at all until he does something on his end...correct?22:03
sudormrfstupid question, I suppose, but I am second guessing myself22:03
TheEmpathhi.. having a really, really hard time setting up a local DNS server.  IS there anything that simplifies the process?23:03
sudormrfTheEmpath, in short, nothing I have found does.23:04
sudormrfI have been working on a bind9/dhcpd setup for a couple of weeks now (mostly in my down time).23:04
sudormrfwhat is the problem you are having with bind?23:04
TheEmpathim currently using bind9 right now23:04
TheEmpathbut only one machine on my LAN sees it23:04
sudormrfso your other clients aren't getting the nameserver info?23:05
TheEmpathmeaning, the bind9 serever is setup to "map" someLocalName.net to an IP23:05
sudormrfok23:05
TheEmpathand one machine on my server can type someLocalName.net and it sees it23:05
TheEmpathbut all other machines cannot23:05
sudormrfthis could be a DHCP issue and not a DNS issue23:05
sudormrfhave you setup isc-dhcp-server? or is DHCP being handled by something else?23:05
TheEmpathahhh23:06
TheEmpathso i have a router that handles the DHCP23:06
sudormrfTheEmpath, because I have been fighting with the exact same issues.23:06
sudormrfok, so in the router have you told the router to use your DNS server as the primary DNS server?23:06
TheEmpathlol @ your name btw23:06
sudormrf:)23:06
TheEmpathcorrect23:06
TheEmpathrouter knows to look at the bind9 server23:06
sudormrfalso, have you set the FQDN in the router?23:06
TheEmpathi think i have23:06
TheEmpathhow do i confirm?23:07
sudormrfwhat kind of router?23:07
TheEmpathconsumer23:07
sudormrflol I mean make/model :)23:07
TheEmpathdunno why that matters :O23:07
sudormrfTheEmpath, because you asked me how you check if you set the FQDN23:08
sudormrfit will be in different places on every router23:08
TheEmpathi know i wont be able to set such things on the router23:08
sudormrfand/or your router may not support it23:08
TheEmpathi have a dynamic dns pointing to my static IP however23:08
TheEmpathand that works fine23:09
sudormrfwell as I understand it DHCP is what hands out the FQDN and the DNS server info to clients.  your clients are only querying the DNS server when looking up addresses (be they local or remote, you may have a forwarder setup).  the A records are created in BIND so that you can lookup something by hostname without fail, if I am not mistaken23:09
sudormrfand the PTR records are created as a reverse lookup method23:10
TheEmpathright.  i've setup the named.conf.options for that23:10
TheEmpathwith the rev and the domain name im using23:10
sudormrfTheEmpath, aye, so what I am saying is that I would verify that your DHCP setup is working correctly23:12
sudormrfverify that the router knows to tell the clients where to look for DNS23:12
TheEmpathhrmmm23:13
TheEmpathit is true that the one machine that can access the DNS server is a static ip23:13
TheEmpathand hte one that cannot is DHCP23:13
TheEmpathbut when i look at the DHCPed client... its networking configuration is correct23:14
TheEmpaththe right ip range, the right gateway, netmask23:14
TheEmpathbut you are saying an A record might be buggy?23:14
TheEmpathhrmm23:14
TheEmpathi did restart the DNS server23:14
TheEmpaththat means i need to restart the client too23:14
TheEmpathlemme try that23:14
sudormrfk23:14
TheEmpathhuzzah, good call sir :D23:21
sudormrffixed?23:23
TheEmpathfixed :D23:51
TheEmpathnow my VPN doesn't work, but thats a whoel other beast23:51

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