[00:00] <synth_> blah
[00:00] <card> Hrm, this article, is this reffering to the Linux OS booted directly on the MBR or on the GPT?
[00:01] <apb1963> no idea
[00:02] <card> hrm
[00:02] <apb1963> it says what it says :)  I wll point out this little tidbit I just noticed: "It?s quite easy you need just a Linux live cd like (the Ubuntu live cd or Knoppix) or an installed Linux you want get rid of."  I'm not sure it's an entirely accurate statement... I'm sure someone else has more knowledge on the subject than I do.  I only know what I read.
[00:03] <vap3> Hello, I've got a Compaq Presario C500, can't get it to shutdown all the way. Can I fix this?
[00:03] <card> Hrm, ok, I'll read further, maybe there's something I haven't seen; thanks!
[00:03] <card> Vap, hold the power button for about 10-20 seconds
[00:04] <card> You should hear a little *click* and the computer should completely power off
[00:04] <card> (this is OS independent, it's a hardware feature)
[00:04] <vap3> That's really all I can do at this point, anyway of getting it to shutdown without forcing it?
[00:05] <card> hrm
[00:05] <card> How much time did you give Ubuntu to do it?
[00:05] <card> Sometimes the shut down times can be pretty stupidly long
[00:05] <K1rk> card: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair   ??
[00:05] <K1rk> If you messed up the Windows boot loader...you might need to use your Windows DVD to rebuild that boot loader first then install GRUB
[00:05] <vap3> well over an hour, until the battery died.
[00:06] <card> Well, uhm, thats rather odd
[00:06] <card> Other than the ACPI shutdown, I haven't a clue
[00:06] <apb1963> card:  Another link that seems useful: http://askubuntu.com/questions/183799/fix-windows-mbr-using-ubuntu-live-cd-and-ms-sys-tool
[00:06] <card> klrk, I appreciate the offer a TON, but I can't use the install media
[00:06] <vap3> Thanks allot! :)
[00:06] <card> (for reasons that I don't quite understand myself)
[00:07] <card> No prob, sorry I couldn't do anything else for ya :)
[00:08] <K1rk> Shutting down your computer is so 1997 :P
[00:08] <K1rk> oh it's a laptop didn't realize that
[00:08] <card> xD
[00:09] <card> "real men just sleep their computers!"
[00:09] <K1rk> Yes just leave your laptop on for the rest of eternity
[00:09] <K1rk> ew sleep always messes things up
[00:09] <card> xD
[00:09] <wilee-nilee> K1rk, Many here are multi booting, one reboots to get there.
[00:09] <card> Hibernating on Windows breaks more stuff than all hell
[00:09] <card> Aha!
[00:09] <card> Apb, you might just have found the solution
[00:10] <card> Using the link you gave me, it appears I can explodimate my MBR and replace it with one precisely for Windows
[00:10] <K1rk> wilee-nilee: Yeah I know I'm 40% joking.
[00:10] <wilee-nilee> K1rk, Please don't make sweeping generalized statements here, opinions and jokes are yours not the channel.
[00:10] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[00:11] <card> Now, the question is now; how do I load a linux OS so that it see's everything from the MBR side of town instead of the GPT?
[00:11] <card> Would using an OS that only boots in BIOS mode accomplish this?
[00:12] <Kion> I am trying to install a vsftpd server in ubuntu 14.04 it seems it does not work, after sudo apt-get install vsftpd the server is not listening...
[00:12] <psusi> card, yes, any bios booting OS first boots from the MBR, whether you are using gpt or not
[00:12] <Kion> After googoling it seems like a 14.04 problem
[00:12] <ptepetey> hello
[00:12] <ptepetey> I'm trying to install ubuntu on my macbook 2,1
[00:13] <ptepetey> but I keep cropping up against the error from the refit boot loader : error not found returned from legacy loader
[00:13] <card> Psui and apb, you brilliant motherf***rs! :D
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> Kion, googoling, that a new dance?;)
[00:13] <card> Wait wait ptepety, this is a macbook 2,1?
[00:13] <card> What year is this from?
[00:13] <ptepetey> an ancient device ^___^
[00:13] <ptepetey> made out of stones
[00:13] <card> :P
[00:14] <ptepetey> not sure
[00:14] <card> Seriously though, is it so old it has a PowerPC processor?
[00:14] <ptepetey> 2006
[00:14] <ptepetey> lol
[00:14] <card> Hrm
[00:14] <ptepetey> intel core2 duo
[00:14] <card> Ah
[00:14] <card> So lemme see here
[00:15] <card> First of all, if you haven't booted Ubuntu already, I tryed for AGES without getting it to work until I figured it out
[00:15] <card> First of all, I wiped anything related to Ubuntu, and cleared out some free space at the end of the disk
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> ptepetey, I doubt ubuntu will run on that, I would start lighter with lubuntu.
[00:15] <card> Then, boot into the liveCD and "try OS". Keep installation as normal, but when it asks you how to install
[00:16] <card> select "something else"
[00:16] <wilee-nilee> ptepetey, How much memory?
[00:16] <ptepetey> 2gb
[00:16] <ptepetey> 2ghz
[00:16] <card> Oh Ubuntu should run fine with that, shouldn't it?
[00:16] <wilee-nilee> ptepetey, Should work than, my mistake.
[00:16] <card> (Fine meaning it will boot without errors usually :P)
[00:16] <ptepetey> problem is the boot loader
[00:16] <card> Ah yes
[00:17] <card> I have a remedy for that as well
[00:17] <ptepetey> i created a bootable usb with the linux pendrive installer
[00:17] <ptepetey> **should work**
[00:17] <card> Which ISO did you use?
[00:17] <ptepetey> i tried both 64bit
[00:17] <card> Did you make sure it was 32 bit and NOT the "Mac ISO" image?
[00:17] <ptepetey> it's a 64bit processor
[00:17] <card> Are you sure?
[00:17] <ptepetey> pretty sure
[00:17] <ptepetey> wait
[00:17] <card> That computer definately seems 32 bit
[00:17] <ptepetey> let me check
[00:18] <wilee-nilee> !who | ptepetey
[00:18] <card> Hell, at that time, even though they COULD make a 64-bit computer (I think), it probably wasn't useful
[00:18] <card> Since you only have 2 GB of RAM
[00:18] <apb1963> card: Almost everything you ever wanted to know about the MBR & GPT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table
[00:18] <card> Can I just give you like a virtual high-five complete with a "HELL YEAH" apb?
[00:19] <card> Anyways, try the 32 bit ISO
[00:19] <card> NOW
[00:19] <apb1963> card: if you insist
[00:19] <card> Make sure to install rEFInd from OSX first
[00:19] <card> It will save you countless hours of fixing things
[00:19] <apb1963> !who | card
[00:20] <card> @ ptepetey :P
[00:20] <factotum> those of you running a windows VM, what's worked best for you? I gave KVM a go and it was great but the graphical lag was odd. Giving Virtualbox another go since it's seemed to work the best so far.
[00:20] <card> *gives virtual high five*
[00:20] <ptepetey> yeah it's the 2007 model
[00:20] <ptepetey> !card
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> factotum, Best is an opinion and polling here is not supported.
[00:20] <ptepetey> which is 64b
[00:20] <card> Ok
[00:20] <card> Well, uhm
[00:21] <factotum> wilee-nilee: noted
[00:21] <card> Install the 32 bit ISO either way
[00:21] <card> It couldn't hurt since you have less than 4 GB of RAM
[00:21] <ptepetey> ok
[00:21] <ptepetey> cool
[00:21] <card> If that doesn't work, come back (remember to install rEFInd before Ubuntu)
[00:21] <card> Now also
[00:21] <wilee-nilee> ptepetey, Preface every answer to another with their nick please.
[00:21] <ptepetey> card thanks
[00:21] <ptepetey> for the card
[00:21] <card> Ptepe, make sure when your installing and your using "something else"(cont)
[00:22] <card> You make SURE that the "boot loader installation" option is NOT set to /dev/sda
[00:22] <ptepetey> "something else ? "
[00:22] <card> It has to be set to the one immediately under it, /dev/sda1
[00:22] <card> Yeah, make sure to use the "Something Else" option in the Ubuntu installer
[00:22] <ptepetey> cool
[00:22] <ptepetey> well
[00:22] <card> Manually create the EXT4 and swap partitions
[00:23] <ptepetey> let's try to get the installer to appear first of all
[00:23] <card> oh...
[00:23] <card> xD
[00:23] <card> Let me see, uh, try booting it from rEFInd (it should pop up a little menu at boot) (also rEFInd is like a 2 MB download so don't hesitate), and try the 32 bit ISO
[00:23] <ptepetey> xD
[00:23] <card> Make sure you don't use the "Mac ISO", that breaks everything on macs
[00:24] <card> (ironic, I know)
[00:24] <card> Good luck!
[00:24] <ptepetey> mahh
[00:24] <ptepetey> must've been built by the mac haters
[00:24] <ptepetey> it's a trap!
[00:24] <card> xD
[00:24] <card> Actually, it was built to help
[00:24] <card> And *sometimes* it does
[00:24] <ptepetey> hehe
[00:24] <card> (It forces the computer to boot in BIOS emulated mode)
[00:25] <card> But *most of the time*, it breaks everything and kills everyone you love and hold dear
[00:25] <card> So again, I wouldn't use it unless your doing some VERY specific stuff between windows and linux ptep
[00:26] <ptepetey> and... you want your mac to explode
[00:26] <card> :p
[00:26] <ptepetey> ;P
[00:26] <ptepetey> just kidding
[00:26] <ptepetey> still it will be good to go from tiger to ubuntu
[00:26] <ptepetey> the wonder of moving from java 2 to java 7
[00:26] <ptepetey> lol
[00:27] <card> Java 2 lmao
[00:27] <card> Use OpenJDK if Oracle refuses lol
[00:27] <ptepetey> hmm
[00:27] <card> (Worst case scenario, I think you have to use some form of the Java 6 JDK)
[00:27] <ptepetey> maybe I should just try light ubuntu
[00:27] <ptepetey> it would run faster right
[00:27] <card> Lubuntu is a good idea
[00:28] <card> Yeah, it should
[00:28] <ptepetey> ace
[00:28] <card> Ace? No that's my son *badatss*
[00:29] <card> Hell, Debian might be a good idea
[00:29] <card> Most Ubuntu packages work on Debian (unless they do something Ubuntu-specific), and pure Debian itself isn't too bad
[00:29] <card> Also, use a lightweight desktop enviroment
[00:29] <ptepetey> why debian
[00:29] <card> I think KDW has something like that?
[00:29] <ptepetey> and not lubuntu
[00:29] <card> KDM*
[00:30] <card> Debian is extremely light-weight
[00:30] <card> It comes with like a desktop and thats it
[00:30] <card> And it should run most of your software
[00:31] <ptepetey> so basically they're all equivilent
[00:31] <phantomx013> Hi
[00:31] <card> ... not necessarily
[00:31] <card> In terms of software running, mostly yes
[00:31] <phantomx013> I downloaded ubuntu 14.04 iso file and then simply burnt it on a dvd
[00:32] <phantomx013> but my laptop doesn't start from dvd and install new version of ubuntu
[00:32] <phantomx013> do I have to burn it in some special mode?
[00:32] <card> In terms of how "heavy" they are, Debian is extremely bare boned (most people just use it to create a more "complete" OS; Ubuntu and Mint are based off of Debian)
[00:32] <card> Yes.
[00:32] <card> Go into your BIOS
[00:32] <ptepetey> (up up right right left down down)
[00:32] <ptepetey> to unlock special mode
[00:32] <ptepetey> ;)
[00:32] <card> And change the boot order, so that the CD-R drive is before the hard drive
[00:33] <phantomx013> thats how it is now
[00:33] <card> Hrm
[00:33] <card> What happens?
[00:33] <phantomx013> Optical drive, then hdd
[00:33] <card> Does it just skip straight to Windows?
[00:33] <card> Also, what do you have, Windows 7 or Windows 8?
[00:33] <phantomx013> i have ubuntu 8 on my old laptop
[00:33] <phantomx013> so it boots into ubuntu 8
[00:33] <moviebox> Hello
[00:33] <moviebox> :-)
[00:33] <card> Ah
[00:33] <card> So no Windows
[00:33] <phantomx013> no
[00:34] <card> Gotcha :)
[00:34] <card> Let me think here... hrm...
[00:34] <moviebox> http://johannessto.deviantart.com/
[00:34] <moviebox> :-)
[00:34] <phantomx013> I had a old bootable ubuntu 8 cd ..i just installed it 2 days back using that cd ...
[00:34] <card> Odd...
[00:34] <card> Hrm
[00:34] <card> Try re-downloading and burning the ISO
[00:34] <card> Set it to burn as slow as practically possible
[00:34] <card> ALSO
[00:35] <card> I wouldn't recommend a DVD install
[00:35] <card> If I were you, I would do a USB-boot
[00:35] <card> Or if that doesn't work, a frugal boot is even more bullet-proof
[00:35] <phantomx013> in the boot option in my laptop, there is no usb boot
[00:35] <phantomx013> :(
[00:35] <card> ... :(
[00:35] <card> Try the frugal boot with UNetBootin
[00:36] <phantomx013> how do I do it?
[00:36] <phantomx013> frugal boot
[00:36] <phantomx013> any link?
[00:36] <card> Hrm
[00:36] <card> Download UNetBootin
[00:36] <card> But when it asks you where to burn the ISO
[00:37] <card> Just don't change the option to any USB port
[00:37] <card> On Windows it should say C://, on *NIX it should say something similar
[00:37] <phantomx013> ok...
[00:37] <phantomx013> let me explore
[00:37] <card> Don't worry, it's not erasing your disk, it's just using the OS's own boot loader
[00:38] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> I needs apache2 help
[00:38] <phantomx013> card: thanks ... i'll give it a shot
[00:40] <ptepetey> hmm card: it didn't like lbuntu either
[00:40] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Soo, i went into the etc directory and opened up the hosts file and changed localhost to cheese and it worked fine till i removed the index file in /var/www when i tried to make another file and restart apache i got this error "AH00558: apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1. Set the 'ServerName' directive globally to suppress this message"
[00:41] <card> Oh it doesn't like Lubuntu either...
[00:41] <card> Hrm
[00:41] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> and now when i go to 127.0.0.1 or just type cheese nothing happens
[00:41] <card> Are you using rEFInd /nag?
[00:41] <card> If you are, then I haven't a clue
[00:41] <daftykins> GuyThatNeedsHelp: yeah that's not actually a serious error, it's obvious you're trying to make use of apache without reading into docs about it or education yourself about it.
[00:41] <ptepetey> just vanilla rEFInd
[00:41] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> you're right
[00:41] <ptepetey> it
[00:41] <daftykins> *educating
[00:41] <ptepetey> even
[00:42] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> But i've removed files before and it worked fine
[00:43] <daftykins> GuyThatNeedsHelp: typically, if you owned example.com and you had a server called "server", you would call your server by its' FQDN or fully qualified domain name - which would be server.example.com - so that's what apache likes to be able to see in hosts files etc.
[00:44] <daftykins> GuyThatNeedsHelp: things will still work, it'll just always print that error message until you resolve it... every time you start/restart the service. so i'd recommend you look into the apache fundamentals on how to set up a new web server
[00:44] <daftykins> GuyThatNeedsHelp: the thing is, this channel is more for support of the OS... not support on how-to-do-every-task-ever with the OS
[00:45] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> daftykins: why do you have to hurt me all the time?
[00:45] <daftykins> ...
[00:50] <frickenate> Has anyone here installed varnish 4.0 on trusty from repo.varnish-cache.org? Added the key and sources entry, apt-get update pulls without error, but I'm still only seeing 3.0.5-2 from universe.
[00:56] <OerHeks> frickenate, v4 will be in next release https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/varnish , or just compile it yourself > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/varnish/4.0.0-2
[00:58] <frickenate> OerHeks: I'm not looking at the ubuntu repo. Varnish provides their own. However, I just discovered the 4.0 for trusty Packages.gz is empty. Going to try precise.
[00:59] <frickenate> yep, there it is. who pushes an empty repo, sigh. :)
[01:01] <Obiwantje> guys - here is to hoping to get some solid answer on a few silly questions. I travel a lot - and spend a lot of time on corp networks and in hotels - I have always used TeamViewer for remote access rom my WINDOWS PC to my Ubuntu box - no setup needed, no ports needed, and works really from anywhere. Lately TV though has been crashing more often and I am trying to test a (hopefully) free alternative to TV - any suggestions you
[01:01] <Obiwantje> guys can give me?
[01:03] <phantomx013> card: I found the method ... https://discussions.apple.com/message/24838470#24838470
[01:03] <phantomx013> you have to burn the dvd in a different way on mac to make it bootable
[01:03] <apb1963> Random software application recommendation for today.  Tomahawk - the music player to end all music players.  Type in your criteria (artist, genre, etc.) and it finds it anywhere on the Net and plays it.
[01:04] <tyhma_> Why can't ubuntu find network printer anymore?????
[01:04] <tyhma_> probably some unfinished update broke everything again
[01:05] <tyhma_> ****!!!
[01:06] <card> Ah hrm
[01:06] <card> Oh you have a mac
[01:06] <card> That would've helped :P
[01:06] <card> I would just use UnetBootin for burning, it works cross-platform from personal experience
[01:06] <phantomx013> yea i have 2 pc ..one old laptop on which i have ubuntu while I was burning the dvd on mac
[01:07] <card> Ah hrm
[01:07] <tyhma_> my computer and printer are connected to the same wifi and ubuntu doesn't find the printer!! hellp!!!
[01:07] <card> So yeah, UNetBootin: it works wonders
[01:07] <card> Tyhma, first of all, calm down
[01:07] <tyhma_> card: it worked like a charm a month ago
[01:08] <card> Screaming "HEEEELP" won't help at all :p
[01:08] <card> Ah
[01:08] <card> Hrm
[01:08] <card> Your sure you have the drivers?
[01:08] <qin> apb1963: I thought the only allowed talking bot in this channel was Ubottu...
[01:08] <card> Make sure the thing is actually on and you didn't disconnect it by accident, that happens to me all the time :P
[01:09] <qin> tyhma_: can you ping your printer?
[01:15] <aeturnum> Are there any known problems with the "mac" live USB image & OS X 10.9.2? I tried formatting a usb stick using both the mac and Windows techniques and wasn't able to see the USB key as a bootable drive on the macbook pro.
[01:15] <holstein> aeturnum: does the unit boot usb? i had to use plop on the mac i was using.. plop or a CD
[01:17] <aeturnum> holstein:  Its possible it doesn't boot from usb...Ive never tried before
[01:17] <holstein> aeturnum: then, dont assume its an issue with the image, or the USB stick
[01:17] <holstein> aeturnum: there *are* known issues with mac's booting usb.. like, usually, they dont/cant
[01:17] <tyhma_> all I can say is ubuntu makes my life difficult... ****
[01:18] <holstein> aeturnum: you can take the USB to a non-mac, and try booting it, then, you'll know that the stick is "good"
[01:18] <aeturnum> Makes sense - you said you used plop?
[01:18] <holstein> tyhma_: ?
[01:18] <aeturnum> gotcha
[01:18] <holstein> aeturnum: plop allows to boot a CD, and select the USB from there to be booted
[01:18] <holstein> aeturnum: on mac hardware, i try and do what is expected.. a CD or DVD when possible
[01:18] <aeturnum> I was worried that, as there is a specific "mac" image, the image might not work on a non-efi board (or whatever)
[01:19] <apb1963> Obiwantje: I use teamviewer.  I stumbled on something called X2go yesterday.  I haven't had a chance to try it out yet.
[01:19] <holstein> aeturnum: that may be an issue..
[01:19] <aeturnum> I'll try chaining boot loaders and come back if I still can't figure it out :) thanks!
[01:19] <holstein> aeturnum: good luck
[01:30] <mexicano> g
[01:33] <huzaifas> is marc deslarus around by any chance?
 thank you for your suggestion - I will look into that one
[01:33] <iankelling> so i'm doing a netinstall, i go to a different virtual console, now I want to go back to the installer, but all i get is blank black screens for virtual console
[01:33] <Obiwantje> I am getting more and more issue with clipboard not working and plain crash of the server side
[01:33] <iankelling> er virtual console #6 and above.
[01:34] <iankelling> any idea how to get back to the installer?
[01:35] <icesherpa24> is there a quick way to change the host name (computer name) in terminal ? I forgot how to do it
[01:38] <iankelling> icesherpa2, as root, echo whatever-hostname-u-want >> /etc/hostname; hostname -F. if i remember right
[01:39] <icesherpa24> iankelling thanks
[01:39] <Maple__> If anyone here has Calibri installed on their system, could they please screenshot what "Testing this font" looks like at size 12pt, please? ktx
[01:40]  * Maple__ usually doesn't come in here.
[01:43] <OerHeks> !find calibri
[01:43] <SonikkuAmerica> OerHeks: Calibri is a Microsoft TTF
[01:44] <iankelling> i'm in the netinstall installer, i switch to a dif vc, then I can't get back to the installer. #6+ are just blank screens. how do I get back?
[01:45] <Bashing-om> !host
[01:46] <Maple__> e.g., in LO Writer or smth?
[01:46] <OerHeks> !info fonts-crosextra-carlito
[01:46] <Maple__> I think in Ubuntu it came with the something-something-restricted-somethings.
[01:46] <Maple__> been too long since I remembered.
[01:46] <Maple__> er, used.
[01:46] <Maple__> hmm, intriguing, will check out.
[01:46] <Bashing-om> !hostname
[01:47] <SonikkuAmerica> iankelling: Ctrl+Alt+F1 ?
[01:47] <Bashing-om> icesherpa24: Also see ^^.
[01:47] <iankelling> ya, it asks me if i want to activate, ima try activating each of them
[01:48] <maddawg3> am i correct in assuming that you can only have one hostname defined in /etc/hostname
[01:48] <icesherpa24> Bashing-om really thank you
[01:48] <maddawg3> but as many as you want in /etc/hosts
[01:49] <Bashing-om> icesherpa24: : ) .... the care and feeding of our 'buntu.
[01:49] <SonikkuAmerica> Bashing-om: How often does a 'buntu eat? :D
[01:50] <icesherpa24> bashing-om yes true that
[01:50] <sydney> So,does ctrl-alt-f1 start the terminal,and close the graphical enviroment?
[01:51] <iankelling> SonikkuAmerica, vc 2 and vc 3 give consoles, the rest of ctrl-alt-1,4,5 do nothing, 6+ give a blank screen
[01:51] <SonikkuAmerica> sydney: No, it fires a tty up, but leaves X running on :7
[01:52] <SonikkuAmerica> iankelling: You may need to rewrite your image if that's all it's giving you
[01:52] <asduf> What's a good Linux distro for use as a web browser? (Something along the lines of HP QuickWeb)
[01:53] <OerHeks> asduf, how about .. ubuntu?
[01:53] <sydney> what is a tty?
[01:53] <iankelling> SonikkuAmerica, idunno about that.
[01:53] <SonikkuAmerica> asduf: Why ask here in #ubuntu ? Try ##linto x
[01:53] <SonikkuAmerica> asduf: Or maybe ##linux , how about that?
[01:53] <Bashing-om> SonikkuAmerica: To be honest, 'buntu frequently eats my lunch !
[01:53] <icesherpa24> OerHeks Good call
[01:54] <SonikkuAmerica> sydney: A giant login shell
[01:54] <jschall_> trying to add a second network interface that will connect directly to another device, but when i set it up in networkmanager the internet stops working.
[01:54]  * sydney is slightly confused.
[01:55] <SonikkuAmerica> sydney: So you log in with username and password, then you get to a bash prompt, just like hitting Ctrl+Alt+T
[01:56] <jschall_> also when i run "route," it never exits.
[01:56] <asduf> ##linto isn't a real channel, and ##linux requires registration, which I don't want to do for a single question.
[01:56] <SonikkuAmerica> asduf: Blame my tablet, please.
[01:56] <Bashing-om> sydney: Used to be long ago and in that far way world there was a thing called "TeleTYpe" that was shortened to TTY, now-a-days tty is a terminal interface.
[01:57] <SonikkuAmerica> Bashing-om: As far away as 500 m
[01:58] <Bashing-om> SonikkuAmerica: Nay, I had in mind as in yers,, huh ??
[01:58] <Bashing-om> years*
[01:58] <SonikkuAmerica> They didn't have TTY in 1514
[01:59] <icesherpa24> Bashing-om must be on the Apernet ^^
[01:59] <SonikkuAmerica> Or else Martin Luther would've TTY'ed his 95 Theses all over Europe :D
[02:02] <jschall_> i followed http://goo.gl/lfOVpH and i cannot access the internet with my internal network connection active. also, the "route" command does not exit - it just sits there.
[02:06] <asduf> I might just give Chromium OS a try.
[02:11] <triplc> hi all
[02:12] <triplc> how to sync with a samba folder? in office, people have a shared folder in windows fileserver; how can i sync it with a folder in my personal ubuntu laptop?
[02:14] <unicornjedi> Hello, i bought a new 24 pin power supply for my computer. I connected it to my motherboard and the fans starts turning but nothing comes up on my monitor. the monitor is working fine. I took out the power supply and when I looked at the 24 pin connector I noticed one of the pins was missing. Is this normal?
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> unicornjedi, ask the manufacturer.
[02:16] <sudormrf> testing
[02:16] <i2x> ...
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> unicornjedi, Might be worth asking in ##hardware
[02:18] <OerHeks> unicornjedi, you can miss a ground pin, but then it wouldn't be wired http://www.motherboards.org/images/articles/guides/24-pin.jpg
[02:18] <iankelling> i'm in the netinstall installer, i switch to a dif vc, then I can't get back to the installer. ctrl-alt-f6 brings up a blank screen. any suggestions?
[02:20] <unicornjedi> thanks guys
[02:20] <sakang> re-start and try again
[02:22] <jasonsmr> hello ubuntu channel,
[02:23] <jasonsmr> Question is this the correct channel to ask tech questions
[02:23] <atari314> hello, anyone here using apparmor?
[02:23] <jasonsmr> Question I want to set my mouse to issue a right-click after a left-click is held for say 2seconds
[02:24] <iankelling> i figured it out. it was in the debian install guide. in the installer, you use left alt + f1, not ctrl alt
[02:25] <RaMcHiP> Is this the place to ask server questions?
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> atari314, You don't want anyone using apparmor, but who understand the issue you should post.
[02:27] <holstein> !server | RaMcHiP or you can ask here
[02:27] <atari314> wilee-nilee: I was going to ask if it was ok to use apparmor without apparmor-utils? Or if I would have any issues on apparmor. All I want is to enforce a since profile (alone on /etc/apparmor.d/).
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> RaMcHiP, In a Ubuntu context yes, there is #ubuntu-server as well.
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> atari314, I have never used it is all. ;)
[02:28] <atari314> wilee-nilee: :)
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> I hear it's the bees knees though
[02:30] <RaMcHiP> Well I am trying to figure out how to disable password recover to help even hardware access penetration
[02:30] <atari314> wilee-nilee: yup, works pretty smooth, but all doc I find kinda force me to use the apparmor-utils, and, unfortunately I cannot install all those deps, so I'm trying to figure out a way to keep apparmor without 'em.
[02:31] <RaMcHiP> I have googled it but am coming up blank getting totally off topic results no matter my wording
[02:33] <TJ-> RaMcHiP: can you give us a bit more detail of what you mean?
[02:34] <basketball> Hi i Just got a pair of powerbeats is there a way to make the pause/play and volume up/down buttons work?﻿
[02:35] <RaMcHiP> I am setting up a box
[02:35] <RaMcHiP> my powers at be have given me a completely insecure server room
[02:36] <RaMcHiP> I want to prevent recovery mode and password recover so hacking it if you have access to hardware is just that more difficult
[02:37] <jerome_> Hi, i'm trying to migrate to Ubuntu from windows.. and i'm having trouble finding a solution to opening a remote file over ssh.. i'd like to use Sublime Text Editor.. the local command 'subl' becomes unavailable.. any tips for how i can better troubleshoot?
[02:38] <qin> RaMcHiP: You need to remove such option from grub, disable recovery more and root shell, as for insecure server room, full encription or couple of K-9
[02:38] <holstein> RaMcHiP: http://askubuntu.com/questions/321115/how-to-remove-password-recovery-reset
[02:38] <TJ-> RaMcHiP: once someone has physical access they can boot from, for instance, an external USB or DVD. You can apply a password to GRUB's boot menu though, if you want to block easy access to the Recovery option
[02:42] <holstein> RaMcHiP: pretty much, if they can touch it, its a matter of time
[02:48] <ezeql> hi, anyone workign with sublimetext3 on 14.04?
[02:49] <RaMcHiP> Ya, I know but I want to prevent as much as posssible
[02:49] <RaMcHiP> and all the basic methods
[02:49] <TARDISguy> aflach nik rumbus ni ho chem po chi?
[02:52] <yosry1> hello there
[02:53] <yosry1> i want little help to make sym link
[02:58] <yosry> seeking symbolic link commands
[02:59] <ajvillalobos> hey guys
[02:59] <yosry2> hey
[02:59] <ndroftheline> suuuuup
[03:00] <yosry2> nm
[03:00] <ajvillalobos> hey guys, the thing is, i
[03:00] <ajvillalobos> setup a smtp server, now i can send via port 25
[03:00] <yosry2> ajvillalobos: aha
[03:00] <qin> yosry2: man ln;
[03:00] <ajvillalobos> i want to use a external program with it.
[03:00] <ajvillalobos> i cant seem to find my credentials on what to put
[03:00] <ajvillalobos> im using postfix
[03:01] <ajvillalobos> what username/password and will i put?, like smtp.domainname.com:25?
[03:01] <ajvillalobos> also i set it up using root, i want to make a new user e.g. smtp1user just for smtp mailing.
[03:02] <yosry2> did u sudo apt-get update ?
[03:02] <tandrum123> 	imagine i have two programms running on the same machine and they establish a socket connection (in C) over their LAN-wide hostname. would the data be transfered over the "real" network (limiting the bandwidth to wire-speed) or is there some mechanism that redirects such machine-local traffic?
[03:05] <ajvillalobos> yosry2: do you have idea on my problem?
[03:06] <yosry2> ajvillalobos: am searching for u over google
[03:06] <ajvillalobos> im doing it too. hehe.
[03:06] <XYZAFFA1R> I am trying to run garrys mod on ubuntu 14.04 and it lags like crazy. Im only using about 50% of my machine, and about a year ago on windows 8 it ran just fine when I got my computer, and ran well since but now it wont. here's my harware: 4GB DDR3, 1.7Ghz dual core intel celeron, Intel® Sandybridge Mobile
[03:07] <XYZAFFA1R> My graphics card doesnt have a good desciption in Details....
[03:08] <basketball> Hi i Just got a pair of powerbeats is there a way to make the pause/play and volume up/down buttons work?﻿
[03:08] <unicornjedi> XYZAFFAIR, are you using playonlinux?
[03:08] <XYZAFFA1R> No, it has had linux support for like a year now.
[03:09] <yosry2> i need help to mount driver into my home
[03:09] <yosry2> as sym link
[03:10] <yosry2> like mount partion and make it in downloads or music home folder
[03:11] <yosry2> using fstab
[03:11] <unicornjedi> XYZAFFAIR, i'm sorry i don't know why. I suggest using 8gb of memory.
[03:12] <XYZAFFA1R> Its never been a problem before and I have no money for a computer upgrade or that would of happened already
[03:13] <unicornjedi> XYZAFFAIR, well the other advice I could give is to update your graphics driver.
[03:13] <holstein> or downgrade..
[03:14] <unicornjedi> holstein, really? downgrading helps?
[03:14] <XYZAFFA1R> holstein, Why downgrade?
[03:14] <holstein> XYZAFFA1R: if you say "it's always worked in the past, and i have no money to upgrade the hardware" run the older software that works.. 12.04 is still supported
[03:15] <XYZAFFA1R> OK How do I downgrade?
[03:16] <holstein> XYZAFFA1R: i would first relax and try some other drivers in 14.04
[03:16] <card> I heard a ping, who pinged me
[03:16] <XYZAFFA1R> holstein, yeah, how do I downgrade
[03:16] <Bashing-om> yosry2: see if this help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2117020 <- symlinks to partitions.
[03:16] <holstein> XYZAFFA1R: what have you tried? have you tried the xorg ppa? have you tried the open and proprietary drivers?
[03:16] <card> Oh lol, someone said graphics CARD
[03:17] <XYZAFFA1R> holstein, Havent changed from what ever the default is
[03:17] <XYZAFFA1R> Im asking how to do so
[03:17] <holstein> XYZAFFA1R: ok.. try the proprietary driver, if there is one.. what hardware do you have?
[03:18] <XYZAFFA1R> INtel
[03:18] <XYZAFFA1R> *intel
[03:18] <holstein> XYZAFFA1R: so, you can try the xorg edgers ppa
[03:18] <holstein> XYZAFFA1R: first, are you up to date with upgrades? and booted into the most recent kernel?
[03:19] <holstein> XYZAFFA1R: in a temrinal.. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:19] <holstein> terminal*
[03:19] <KingMichael> http://trololololololololololo.com/
[03:20] <XYZAFFA1R> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[03:20] <XYZAFFA1R> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[03:20] <XYZAFFA1R> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[03:20] <XYZAFFA1R> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[03:20] <XYZAFFA1R> Some index files have failed to download
[03:20] <XYZAFFA1R> WHOA
[03:20] <unopaste> XYZAFFA1R you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[03:21] <holstein> XYZAFFA1R: so, you can address those errors easily.. and you need to that can break your system
[03:21] <holstein> XYZAFFA1R: thats where i start.. with the errors from "sudo apt-get update" and get that, and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to complete without error
[03:21] <XYZAFFA1R> holstein, How do I fix those?
[03:21] <holstein> XYZAFFA1R: then, you and reboot into the latest kernel, and test the latest stock drivers
[03:22] <holstein> XYZAFFA1R: you start by sharing the complete errors if you'd like a volunteer to look
[03:22] <holstein> !paste | XYZAFFA1R
[03:22] <XYZAFFA1R> I know I didnt mean to do that
[03:22] <XYZAFFA1R> So, how do I fix this?
[03:23] <holstein> XYZAFFA1R: im asking that you share your error messages with me, friend
[03:23] <holstein> XYZAFFA1R: you can open a terminal, and run "sudo apt-get update" and share the *entire* output in a pastebin, as suggested above
[03:23] <XYZAFFA1R> http://sprunge.us/BHHU
[03:26] <saeedullah> Hello All friend
[03:26] <XYZAFFA1R> holstein, Did you get that link?
[03:26] <saeedullah> Dose Ubuntu 12.04 Operating System need Antivirus to install?
[03:27] <blaz0r_> saeedullah: nope
[03:27] <saeedullah> Dose Ubuntu 12.04 Operating System need Antivirus to install?
[03:27] <holstein> XYZAFFA1R: W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty_universe_binary-i386_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[03:27] <pavlos> no
[03:28] <blaz0r_> saeedullah: I told u already no
[03:28] <holstein> XYZAFFA1R: thats the issue to address..
[03:28] <holstein> !av | saeedullah
[03:28] <holstein> saeedullah: if you want it, install it.. i dont use it.. many dont..
[03:28] <XYZAFFA1R> How do I fix tha?
[03:28] <holstein> saeedullah: proper permissions and patching is more important on *any* os, really
[03:29] <saeedullah> holstein brother some people told me the linux system don't need to Antivirus some said me needed?
[03:29] <holstein> XYZAFFA1R: did you try and search? when i did, i came up with http://askubuntu.com/questions/311842/how-do-i-fix-apt-errors-w-failed-to-fetch-hash-sum-mismatch try that , and let us know
[03:30] <Drewcifer> How much space should I dedicate to the persistent file on a large external HDD?
[03:30] <saeedullah> i am confuse in this issue
[03:30] <holstein> saeedullah: i just did, and so did blaz0r_ ...
[03:30] <holstein> saeedullah: if you want it, get it.. its not going to be the "end all" security fix
[03:30] <blaz0r_> saeedullah: with Ubuntu you are already *secure*
[03:30] <holstein> saeedullah: how many times have you, or have you heard of anyone getting a virus while using AV programs on windows?
[03:31] <holstein> saeedullah: it happens, AV is just that.. its not a securityy "fix".. education and proper maintenance is the key
[03:31] <holstein> saeedullah: did you read the link i gave?
[03:31] <Drewcifer> Stay out of nefarious neighborhoods of the internets
[03:31] <holstein> !av | saeedullah
[03:31] <pavlos> XYZAFFA1R, seems /var/lib/apt/lists is corrupt
[03:32] <xjkx> I dont understand the versions. I have ubuntu 13.10, and I'm to upgrade to 14.04 ? Isnt it the natural process I upgrade to 14.10 ? But there is no such thing
[03:32] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[03:32] <holstein> xjkx: no.. 14.10 will be out later
[03:32] <holstein> !14.10
[03:32] <pavlos> xjkx, versions are year.month
[03:33] <XYZAFFA1R> Fixed that
[03:33] <XYZAFFA1R> So on to drivers
[03:34] <lotuspsychje> whats that unity log name again to see whats lagging after login till unity load?
[03:34] <xjkx> Thanks for the bot activation holstein, and thanks pavlos I had no idea it was year.month, 13 (2013) makes sense even :o plus 10 october
[03:34] <pavlos> xjkx, 14.04 is 2014 April ... the next will be 14.10 (2014 Oktober)
[03:34] <xjkx> Cool
[03:34] <saeedullah> <holstein yes
[03:34] <XYZAFFA1R> holstein, Its fixed
[03:35] <XYZAFFA1R> Im updating now
[03:35] <saeedullah> it mean the virus damage the linux operating system
[03:36] <Bashing-om> xjkx: Release schedule; every 2 years a Long Term Support (LTS) -support for 5 years - is released, interim releases (development) have a 9 moth support.
[03:36] <holstein> saeedullah: windows machines with antivirus protection get viruses..
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> saeedullah, There are no know virus or malware out on the web going after linux, however there are root kits that will run in any OS.
[03:36] <xjkx> Bashing-om: I guess you're saying 13.10 has only 9 months support ?
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> !security | saeedullah
[03:38] <XYZAFFA1R> saeedullah, Virus protection is nothing but a false sense of security
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> just for the record, grab your files fast from ubuntu one, shutdown soon: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/06/ubuntu-one-discontinued-grab-files-now
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> !one
[03:41] <XYZAFFA1R> No one uses ubuntu one.
[03:41] <XYZAFFA1R> Hence why its shutting down
[03:56] <Guest69716> :-)
[04:04] <dylan> hey all, how can i raise the open file limit without rebooting on ubuntu 12.04?
[04:07] <dcope> nvm, i think i got it. ulimit -n is reporting 65535 now
[04:08] <toordog-wrk> is there a native way to monitor a daemon and restart it if it is not running?
[04:09] <toordog-wrk> *enforcing it is running*
[04:11] <wilee-nilee> toordog-wrk, man daemon should give you info, however http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/en/man8/start-stop-daemon.8.html
[04:12] <toordog-wrk> the daemon is already started via init.d
[04:13] <toordog-wrk> i wanted to monitor apache2 which keep crashing *i couldn't figure out exactly why yet* and i wnated to ahve a method to ensure it is running
[04:13] <Gordio> How fix? "locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory"
[04:14] <Gordio> locale-gen; dpkg-reconfigure locale - not help
[04:14] <shunya_chakra> Is there way to change the color of ubunter terminal 'tabs'
[04:14] <shunya_chakra> ?
[04:16] <wilee-nilee> shunya_chakra, I think the tabs are just part of that windows header
[04:16] <wilee-nilee> you can change the font color
[04:17] <shunya_chakra> wilee-nilee, I mean when I open new tab in terminal... the the color of tab is white..
[04:17] <wilee-nilee> shunya_chakra, Ah, I guess I don't understand.
[04:18] <shunya_chakra> ok np
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> shunya_chakra: whats your end goal? to see multiple terminal windows more easy?
[04:18] <wilee-nilee> shunya_chakra, Mine are white till I open another.
[04:18] <shunya_chakra> yup mine also white.... wilee-nilee but i want to change the color
[04:19] <shunya_chakra> lotuspsychje, I want to change that white color to some better color
[04:19] <shunya_chakra> may be some better white color
[04:19] <shunya_chakra> I get irritated by that color
[04:19] <Gordio> localedef help. Thx. Have nice nice day :Ъ
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> shunya_chakra: maybe terminator is something for you, having multiple terminal windows?
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> !info terminator | shunya_chakra
[04:20] <shunya_chakra> ok lotuspsychje, and wilee-nilee  I'll try that...
[04:20] <shunya_chakra> thanks
[04:20] <shunya_chakra> but is there way to change that color???
[04:20] <shunya_chakra> i mean any option
[04:21] <shunya_chakra> lotuspsychje, i'm concern with when you open terminal and open new tab.. the tab-bar color comes white.
[04:21] <shunya_chakra> I want to change that
[04:21] <sickgirl> hey, if I'm using my computer and sharing my wi-fi network  using a phone, and this phone is vulnarable, that can make my computer vulnerable?
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> shunya_chakra: not sure if that exists, think tabs is part of your theme
[04:22] <shunya_chakra> lotuspsychje, ok thanks
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> sickgirl: the computer runs ubuntu?
[04:23] <sickgirl> lotuspsychje: yeah
[04:23] <sickgirl> lotuspsychje: and I also installed firewall
[04:23] <daniel_> no is not vulnerable
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> sickgirl: if its your own wifi network, ubuntu computer will be safe
[04:24] <sickgirl> lotuspsychje: ok thx =)
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> sickgirl: if its public wifi and not your own network, traffic can be sniffed
[04:24] <daniel_> use VPN if you're so worried... ;-)
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> sickgirl: your phone is android?
[04:24] <sickgirl> lotuspsychje: it's my network. from home. I'm asking because my sister use her phone here sometimes
[04:25] <sickgirl> lotuspsychje: her phone is not android
[04:25] <qin> sickgirl: if any segment of the network is compromise whole communication is in danger
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> sickgirl: what Os is her phone?
[04:25] <sickgirl> lotuspsychje: to be honest I don't know...
[04:26] <sickgirl> lotuspsychje: I bet if I ask her.. she'll say is none of my bussiness
[04:26] <daniel_> it doesn't matter... if your Ubuntu is properly configured, you're gonna be just fine...
[04:26] <sickgirl> haha
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> sickgirl: if her phone doesnt contain linux rootkits and you not sharing files, you will be fine
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> sickgirl: but a healthy paranoia is good, nice question
[04:26] <sickgirl> lotuspsychje: that's just great.. fine. I think it's not linux.
[04:27] <sickgirl> lotuspsychje: thank you =)
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> sickgirl: if you like more into security look into: snort, rkhunter,nmap, clamav
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> !security | sickgirl
[04:30] <Cerebellum> Anyone have a sec to answer a Squid / Firewall / Webmin question?
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> Cerebellum: shoot away mate
[04:31] <quigon007> umm no
[04:31] <quigon007> name your current distro :)
[04:31] <Cerebellum> 14.04
[04:31] <quigon007> same
[04:31] <quigon007> 14.04 xubuntu
[04:32] <Cerebellum> I'm trying to set up a transparent proxy on my home network.  I have the router working, I have the proxy working, but when I set the NAT rule, everything borks.
[04:32] <quigon007> :)
[04:32] <Cerebellum> I get invalid url for everything.
[04:32] <Cerebellum> cannot for the life of me figure out what I'm doing wrong.
[04:33] <Cerebellum> I used:  iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING 1 -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 3128
[04:33] <Cerebellum> sorry, this:  iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING 1 -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 3128
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> !squid | Cerebellum
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> Cerebellum: webmin isnt supported anymore for ubuntu aswell
[04:37] <Guest74016> Hey guys! I asked for help in the #xubuntu channel but there's no one. Mind If I ask you guys for help?
[04:37] <Cerebellum> ok, webmin aside though, squid alone won't allow me to use ACLs to block access to specific sites?
[04:37] <Cerebellum> I have to use squidguard?
[04:38] <sickgirl> lotuspsychje: snort is a firewall right??
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> !info snort | sickgirl
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> Guest74016: go ahead and ask mate
[04:39] <maddawg3> well this is facinating... i can only run etherape as root and it wont show up in my user's login
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> sickgirl: firewall is ufw and iptables
[04:39] <maddawg3> however if i set up ubuntu to login as root (I know bad idea) etherape will run as root
[04:40] <maddawg3> but i dont want to login as root in order to see the programs interface
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> maddawg3: you want to automate etherape as service?
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> Cerebellum: not sure mate, maybe the #squid guys might know aswell?
[04:42] <sickgirl> lotuspsychje: ok, I'm using Gufw and downloading snort, will check the others, thx
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> !info rkhunter | sickgirl also pretty nice
[04:42] <sickgirl> ubottu: yeah I just checked
[04:42] <sickgirl> lotuspsychje: will do!
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> sickgirl: you have ubuntu 14.04?
[04:43] <sickgirl> ubottu: lol no worries I don't think
[04:43] <sickgirl> haha
[04:43] <sickgirl> lotuspsychje: yepp
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> sickgirl: nice choice :p
[04:44] <sickgirl> lotuspsychje: I was using gnome, but changed.
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> Cerebellum: also try the ##networking guys, might know bit more complex layouts
[04:45] <Cerebellum> roger that.  Thank you
[04:45] <sickgirl> lotuspsychje: the only thing I didn't like it it this sidebar fixed
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> sickgirl: you mean unity sidebar?
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> sickgirl: you can auto hide unity sidebar if you like, and install docky to bottom
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> !info docky | sickgirl
[04:47] <sickgirl> lotuspsychje: I don't know if it's called unity... it came with the ubuntu 14.04 version...
[04:48] <sickgirl> lotuspsychje: now I realized this ubottu is just anwering the commands.. lol I'm so slow
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> sickgirl: yes unity comes by default on ubuntu now
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> sickgirl: youl get used to sidebar soon, its very intuitive once you work with it
[04:51] <sickgirl> lotuspsychje: I know... but I still prefer the one I can hide. I will check docky
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> !info cairo-dock | sickgirl also a good one
[04:55] <sickgirl> lotuspsychje: I was using cairo dock with gnome, but I was reading on line you shouldn't use ppas, so I don't know
[04:56] <kaydes> !identify
[04:56] <Voyage> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/Planner.png  theres no way to write the task name/ description at the end of each bar line ?
[04:57] <kaydes> Hey guys
[04:57] <sickgirl> lotuspsychje: couldn't find rkhunter with the UBC
[04:57] <kaydes> I am having trouble with the context menu in the current version of chromium; The text size is too large for the menu and a lot of the content is impossible to click
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> sickgirl: you can sudo apt-get install cairo-dock from terminal without ppa
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> sickgirl: ubc?
[05:00] <sickgirl> ubuntu cencer software... ops
[05:00] <sickgirl> lotuspsychje: do you think I should download all these snort, rkhunter,nmap, clamav you recommended?
[05:00] <graham0> kind of strange question regarding apache's www-data user's permissions if anyone feels like helping me out
[05:00] <asdf__> Can someone help me? Actually I was supposed to get help in #xubuntu channel but no one is there. Please help me.
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> !details
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> sickgirl: you can install them from terminal if you like
[05:01] <wilee-nilee> asdf__, graham0 ^^^^^^^^^^^^
[05:01] <graham0> okay thanks
[05:01] <sickgirl> I will, I was just asking to see if all are necessary
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> sickgirl: your choice, if you want more secure system
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> sickgirl: its not necessary if you dont want
[05:03] <Guest65695> someone from Brazil?
[05:04] <wilee-nilee> asdf__, Xubuntu is supported here, give us an outline of the issue. ;)
[05:04] <wilee-nilee> !br | Guest65695
[05:04] <Guest65695> is this channel only for support?
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> Guest65695, Ubuntu support yes, there is #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[05:05] <sickgirl> lotuspsychje: alright I cannot find snort here...
[05:05] <sickgirl> lotuspsychje: downloaded snort but I don't really find it here
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> sickgirl: try to push 'show 24 technical items' at bottom of software centre
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> sickgirl: ah snort is a terminal package, start from terminal
[05:06] <sickgirl> lotuspsychje: alright!!!
[05:06] <sickgirl> lotuspsychje: snort, rkhunter,nmap, clamav
[05:07] <sickgirl> lotuspsychje: snort Running in packet dump mode          --== Initializing Snort ==-- Initializing Output Plugins! ERROR: Failed to lookup interface: no suitable device found. Please specify one with -i switch Fatal Error, Quitting..
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> sickgirl: snort should start as service when you put on pc
[05:08] <sickgirl> lotuspsychje: ok
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> sickgirl: rkhunter and nmap start manually from terminal
[05:10] <sickgirl> lotuspsychje: ok sir =)
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> sickgirl: rkhunter you can scan your system from terminal for rootkits, and nmap you can scan your open ports/services
[05:12] <Voyage> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/Planner.png  theres no way to write the task name/ description at the end of each bar line ?
[05:13] <sickgirl> lotuspsychje: my problem with ports is that I don't what is ok and what is malicious or dangerous
[05:13] <sickgirl> lotuspsychje: rootkits I have no idea what it is but I will search on like hahaha
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> sickgirl: an open port doesnt mean its dangerous, its more the outdated service on the open port that can be vunrable
[05:14] <wilee-nilee> sickgirl, Be aware that these are not a gui that just name a know problem and give you an option like a windows virus/malware app, this is stuff that will red flag changes alone, especially rkhunter.
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> sickgirl: so nmap -PN -sV youripadress can show the services
[05:15] <sickgirl> wilee-nilee: yeah I know
[05:15] <wilee-nilee> sickgirl, Cool. ;)
[05:16] <sickgirl> wilee-nilee: I've been learning a lot these days. and I bothering and asking too much here haha sorry =P
[05:19] <wilee-nilee> sickgirl, From what I can tell you are asking fair questions, not just coming here for every issue for hand holding. ;)
[05:19] <wilee-nilee> we have a few of those types always
[05:20] <dupingping> umm, I could not print with my printer in 12.04 lts.
[05:20] <dupingping> who can help me?
[05:20] <wilee-nilee> and handfuls of enablers, lol
[05:21] <nonuby> any idea why I cant upgrade this server? https://www.refheap.com/86296
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> dupingping: printer brand?
[05:21] <wilee-nilee> nonuby, dist-upgrade is an in release upgrade
[05:21] <dupingping> canon pixma ip1180
[05:22] <nonuby> wilee-nilee, yes upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 (but do-release-upgrade -d returns no new releases)
[05:23] <wilee-nilee> nonuby, I missed the do my mistake. ;)
[05:23] <wilee-nilee> nonuby, I believe the -d is development try without it
[05:23] <nonuby> same result
[05:24] <wilee-nilee> not sure I never upgrade distros others will know ninu
[05:24] <wilee-nilee> nonuby, ^^^
[05:24] <hateball> nonuby: If you're not in a rush, once 14.04.1 is out you will be able to do-release-upgrade straight up
[05:24] <sickgirl> wilee-nilee: =)
[05:24] <hateball> nonuby: using -d will land you on utopic now most likely
[05:25] <histo> Anyone have lxc installed mind testing that creation of a archlinux container doesn't work?
[05:26] <wilee-nilee> sickgirl, My hypothesis on the enablers is they are parents, they are used to this, personally i have never had children, just a guess though.
[05:27] <sickgirl> wilee-nilee: what?
[05:28] <wilee-nilee> sickgirl, I just had made comments on the support the people who never research and come here for hand holding and get enabled to continue this methodology
[05:29] <TBotNik> All, trying to write a BASH script to find any/all USB flash drives, using CLI of: a.) dmesg |grep -i 'SCSI device', b.) fdisk -l | grep sdd, and c.) df -h | grep dev to create exposure VAR containing a.) Flash Name, b.) Size, c.) Available Space, d.) Mount point.  Hope someone has some hints, cause been working on this a while and not getting where I want to go yet!
[05:29] <wilee-nilee> sickgirl, You research you try to figure this stuff out, that is what I like to see anyway.
[05:30] <hateball> TBotNik: paste your script on pastebin and show us
[05:30] <hateball> TBotNik: There is also #bash
[05:30] <sickgirl> wilee-nilee: ah I see..
[05:30] <TBotNik> wilee-nilee: Gave up on player after 6 hrs and nothing making anything work!
[05:31] <wilee-nilee> TBotNik, I forget exactly what you were working on, my brain is the size of a walnut, on a good day. ;)
[05:31] <Valtam> is anyone here aware of a hack to get around the 5gb min hard driver requirement? I have a 4gb emmc
[05:31] <Valtam> drive*
[05:31] <TBotNik> wilee-nilee: All I have for code is: FD="`fdisk -l | grep -i disk | grep -i media`";
[05:31] <TBotNik> DI="`df -h`";
[05:31] <TBotNik> #echo ${FD} | od -bc;
[05:31] <TBotNik> echo ${FD};
[05:31] <TBotNik> echo ${DI};
[05:31] <TBotNik> exit 0;
[05:31] <unopaste> TBotNik you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[05:32] <wilee-nilee> !mini | Valtam A guess here
[05:32] <histo> Trying to create a Arch Linux container using lxc-create and receiving http://paste.ubuntu.com/7592605/
[05:32] <histo> Was hopeful that someone else here could also try, So I can file a bug.
[05:34] <Valtam> wilee-nilee: the operating system is fixed size,somewhere in the OS there would be a setting for the 5gb min
[05:34] <wilee-nilee> Valtam, IF you say so.
[05:34] <Valtam> I need to know where that is set, where the installer checks it
[05:34] <TBotNik> wilee-nilee: The echos work right, but run all the line together.  You see I tried, but commented out the "| od -bs" option, because it was too cryptic also.
[05:35] <TBotNik> sp "but run all the lines" and "| od -bc"
[05:35] <hateball> TBotNik: are you trying to grep for both disk *and* media, or greping for media in the result of 'grep disk' ?
[05:36] <sickgirl> wilee-nilee: I try, but I overthink and most of the time I'm slow. btw do you know where I can read to learn more things?
[05:37] <TBotNik> wilee-nilee: The later!  But there were issues where I got sde1 from fdisk and sdc1 from df, so need to plug in "dmesg" to make sure I'm getting right drive designator from these.
[05:38] <wilee-nilee> sickgirl, Not really, the little I do know was ascertained being on the ubuntu forums and lurking here at first, and about 7-8 years of use, however I started on open source, I think that has been helpful.
[05:39] <sickgirl> wilee-nilee: sounds nice, curiosity is always good I guess.
[05:39] <TBotNik> wilee-nilee: I really want to get the right drive designator into VAR SDDRV, then run fdisk to get just the drive 'size' and then get 'available space' and mount point from 'df'
[05:40] <wilee-nilee> sickgirl, Yeah has been more of an obsession, this was al while getting a undergrad and now in grad school, but not related to computers, to much free time and little of any responsibilities.
[05:41] <TBotNik> wilee-nilee: Then DF cmd would be "df -h | grep -i ${SDDRV}".  Don't thing I would need anything else.
[05:41] <wilee-nilee> I had been self employed for a long time as well, so self motivated
[05:41] <TBotNik> wilee-nilee: I know "self employed"
[05:42] <ahmad^> guys, I need assistance.
[05:42] <sickgirl> wilee-nilee: haha alright
[05:43] <hateball> TBotNik: so you're using /var/log/messages to determine what is mounted or not?
[05:43] <TBotNik> sp: Don't think I would need anything else.
[05:44] <TBotNik> hateball: Don't understand your msg/point.  Explain!
[05:44] <hateball> TBotNik: Well you plug in devices, and want to know their mountpoint, is this correct?
[05:46] <hateball> TBotNik: I am just trying to understand what you are trying to achieve, easier to know why the script "isnt working" then
[05:46] <TBotNik> hateball: No I really already know that, but have to verify as it changes by device and device size.
[05:46] <TBotNik> hateball: That is why the final var must expose, so the calling script can check it all.
[05:47] <histo> Trying to create a Arch Linux container using lxc-create and receiving http://paste.ubuntu.com/7592605/
[05:50] <raj> is rsync smart about only replacing modified files in a directory?
[05:50] <planetmaker> yes
[05:50] <raj> so if I'm trying to update a directory, as long as that directory name exists in the directory I'm copying to, it'll update the changed files only
[05:50] <planetmaker> histo, the paste shows that you miss pacman...
[05:51] <raj> rsync -Praz /home/raj/somedir/mydir raj@182.32.23.132:/home/raj/anotherdir
[05:51] <planetmaker> raj, for details see man rsync ;)
[05:52] <raj> because `mydir` already exists in `anotherdir`
[05:53] <planetmaker> maybe use the arguments with trailing / ?
[05:53] <sickgirl> wilee-nilee: lotuspsychje: i'm off, thank you once again. both of you
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> sickgirl: cheerz!
[05:55] <histo> planetmaker: I thihnk it's more having to do with the br0
[05:56] <TBotNik> hateball: Just getting started on this, but even though I haven't started parsing anything yet, put up existing code at: http://pastebin.com/jREPRGxa
[05:58] <TBotNik> hateball: Before I start pasting need to make sure what I'm trying to parse.  Right now formats are not right, but saw one thing saying the data format is right in STDOUT, but the "echo" statement is what concatenates it.  Not sure of that, can you verify?
[05:58] <planetmaker> histo, it's generally a excellent idea to solve errors from top to bottom... so if you think you can solve the latter errors first... have fun :)
[05:59] <TBotNik> sp: Before I start parsing need
[06:02] <histo> planetmaker: So it's a bug then thank you.
[06:02] <planetmaker> histo, so did you try after you installed pacman?
[06:02] <TBotNik> hateball: Think I need a "while" loop, but not good at that yet, so lot's of research to get things right. That is why I'm concerned about the STDOUT format, because I'll drive myself mad, if format is not what I think it is!
[06:03] <planetmaker> if you didn't, it will be hard to call it a bug, tbh
[06:04] <histo> planetmaker: No, because my question was merely trying to find the issue. I'm not installing pacman on ubuntu. It's a patch that is needed upstream if they are going to distribute the template to create an arch guest.
[06:05] <histo> planetmaker: the issue is that you ucan't bootstrap arch from within ubuntu host.
[06:05] <histo> planetmaker: no pacman <<<
[06:06]  * histo and not the video game
[06:06] <planetmaker> lol I'm pretty much convinced that any archlinux bootstrap will need a pacman...
[06:07] <Voyage> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/Planner.png  theres no way to write the task name/ description at the end of each bar line ?
[06:09] <histo> planetmaker: yes it will I agree with you.  I'm just trying to wrap my head around why the hell they would distribute a template for an Arch container in the default package.
[06:09] <histo> Since it's not possible out of the box.
[06:10] <planetmaker> histo, the template still needs the tools to create it on the host system
[06:10] <planetmaker> and pacman is *the* tool for arch linux
[06:10] <histo> planetmaker: then one would think since ubuntu dev's like to include so many other uneeded packages they would pull the required files.
[06:10] <planetmaker> a container is not a virtualized system
[06:11] <histo> planetmaker: I'm well aware of what containers are.
[06:13] <histo> planetmaker: I assumed it would pull the necessary software to use the application as it was intended.
[06:14] <planetmaker> histo, the creation of a container cannot do that - that needs root priviliges to install on your system. And the installation of lxc is questionable. Should it automatically contain bootstrapping every possible system and distro? Or require you to post-install them as needed?
[06:15] <histo> planetmaker: It should contain the packages to atleast bootstrap the distros of the TEMPLATES it ships with.
[06:16] <planetmaker> possibly
[06:17] <histo> planetmaker: /usr/share/lxc/templates/lxc-archlinux   is there among others that I'm sure won't work.
[06:24] <hateball> TBotNik: Sorry I am at work so I don't have much time to look at things. Was just trying to clarify to make it easier for others to help as well :)
[06:26] <administrator> hello
[06:28] <histo> TBotNik: You may have more success in #bash but what is the issue with the current output
[06:28] <moarrr> hey
[06:28] <moarrr> can i have some quick help
[06:29] <moarrr> how do I grep a .log file to exclude all lines that contain "ProcessBlock" and "UpdateTip" and display everything else in console?
[06:29] <planetmaker> cat file | grep -v 'ProcessBlock' | grep -v 'UpdateTip'
[06:30] <planetmaker> maybe piped to less
[06:31] <somsip> moarrr: grep -v 'ProcessBlock|UpdateTip' | less
[06:32] <somsip> moarrr: grep -v 'ProcessBlock|UpdateTip' {filename}.log | less
[06:40] <blueingress> Hi all, was swat discontinued?
[06:41] <raj> thanks planetmaker
[06:42] <raj> although, I didn't quite understand your last statement
[06:42] <wilee-nilee> blueingress, THe swat PPA?
[06:42] <histo> !cat
[06:42] <histo> planetmaker: thought there was a factoid for unecessary use of cat
[06:42] <wilee-nilee> blueingress, xswat that is
[06:42] <histo> moarrr: you don't need to cat just grep and -v
[06:42] <graham0> Question about permissions and mounts (I'm using xubuntu 14.04): I have a php script that uses the stat() function on a directory and I am using is with apache2 as the webserver. It works for any directory on the local filesystem that the apache user www-data has read-only permisisons on. I have a external hard drive which automounts to /media/user/diskid. The php script fails when attempting to stat() any directory in the mount.(con
[06:42] <graham0> If I chown /media/user/diskid to www-data the script still fails. If I remount the drive and leave /media/user/diskid owned by my user account and www-data with read-only permissions but chown /media/user to www-data, the php script runs fine. I'm a bit confused about why that is - anybody have any clarifying info?
[06:46] <Guido1> hello, i get a message that i don't have enough RAM to send an error report, but the latop should have 2 or 4 GB. SO my idea is that one RAM is broken. Is there a comand to chek this and to see the other haardware propertys (processor, processor spead etc.)
[06:46] <histo> !mount > graham0
[06:47] <histo> Guido1: free
[06:47] <histo> Guido1: and lshw
[06:47] <graham0> thanks histo - will read it over
[06:47] <hateball> !memtest | Guido1
[06:47] <hateball> ugh.
[06:48] <hateball> Guido1: You can run memtest from a liveboot or from the grub menu on bootup
[06:48] <blueingress> wilee-nilee, thanks, is there any big difference?
[06:48] <Guido1> histo: don't get you compleatly. just enter "free" or "ishw" in the terminal?
[06:48] <histo> Guido1: yes free will show you how much ram is being detected used etc...
[06:48] <hateball> Guido1: "free -m" in terminal will show ram stats
[06:48] <histo> Guido1: to actually test your dims you want to use memtest from the livecd or grub menu
[06:49] <wilee-nilee> blueingress, I was trying to confirm what swat meant to you.
[06:49] <hateball> Guido1: for more detailed hardware info you can use something like "sudo dmidecode" and "lscpu"
[06:50] <blueingress> wilee-nilee, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Swat
[06:50] <wilee-nilee> !info swat
[06:51] <wilee-nilee> blueingress, Xswat is a ppa for graphic drivers so not the same, it appears swat is not in trusty
[06:51] <Guido1> histo, hateball: right now I'm running the laptop with the problem wit xubuntu
[06:51] <histo> Guido1: ok.
[06:52] <hateball> Guido1: All the commands I specified are run in a terminal, they don't care about your DE/GUI
[06:52] <histo> Guido1: Does free -m   in a terminal show the right amount of ram?
[06:52] <blueingress> wilee-nilee, E: Package 'swat' has no installation candidate
[06:53] <histo> Guido1: or you can do free -h   in a terminal to make it human readable like 3.9G etc...
[06:53] <wilee-nilee> blueingress, Never used it so I have no idea other than confirming wha you were looking for and if in the 14.04 release.
[06:54] <vadimkolchev> hi all, after a fresh install I noticed that have backports enabled. Is it safe to update with backports? will I still have a stable system?
[06:54] <histo> blueingress: what swat?
[06:54] <wilee-nilee> vadimkolchev, I believe the backports are only running on the developments
[06:54] <vadimkolchev> wilee-nilee, hmm, not sure why they are enabled by default then
[06:55] <blueingress> histo, Swat - Samba's web-based GUI configuration utility.
[06:55] <vadimkolchev> wilee-nilee, ok, I will comment the lines in sources.list
[06:55] <wilee-nilee> vadimkolchev, cool
[06:56] <Guido1> histo: one 2 GB and one 512 MB RAM instaled. that could be true. fiurst there was a smale one
[06:56] <Guido1> lwhen I bought it with XP - not sure about the size. later i added a 2 GB ram
[06:57] <wilee-nilee> vadimkolchev, I may have been wrong here is a wiki. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[06:57] <histo> blueingress: you'd have to use a ppa or something if you want to use it.
[06:57] <athan> Hey guys.. I just installed portmap, but there wasn't a service recognized. I've got a config file in /etc/init/ and that's it :/... any ideas? I'm just trying to get the nfs-common client to work. Thanks!!!
[06:57] <histo> Guido1: what does free -h  show?
[06:57] <Guido1> histo: invalide option
[06:58] <vadimkolchev> does any1 successfully run wow on ubuntu?
[06:58] <wilee-nilee> vadimkolchev, many are here daily
[06:58] <Guido1> vadimkolchev: xubuntu
[06:58] <histo> Guido1: in a terminal type in free -m  and press enter  pastebin the output
[06:58] <blueingress> histo, I can I tell which ppa to use for that swat?
[06:59] <histo> Guido1: or pastebin the output of sudo dmidecode -t memory
[06:59] <Guido1> histo: so maybe another parameter?
[06:59] <vadimkolchev> Guido1, wilee-nilee,never done it, is there a good manual somewhere?
[06:59] <histo> !ppa | blueingress
[06:59] <wilee-nilee> vadimkolchev, Me neither.
[06:59] <histo> blueingress: notice the unsuported line
[07:00] <histo> blueingress: you may want to investigate why it was removed.
[07:00] <Guido1> vadimkolchev: think i understood you wrong ...
[07:00] <Guido1> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7592977/
[07:00] <blueingress> histo, yeah, you are right
[07:01] <histo> Guido1: and the pastebin for the dmidecode one?
[07:02] <albert88nt> romani pe aici?
[07:02] <albert88nt> hy all.i`m new to ubuntu.Someone help?:D
[07:03] <histo> !ask | albert88nt
[07:03] <Guido1> histo: now all together: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7592994/
[07:04] <histo> Guido1: uggh
[07:04] <albert88nt> i want to install ubuntu an my laptop on an hard drive of 500Gb.I want to have 3 partition letters(like windows microsoft) C(system),D(my files),E(my files).I have 2 gb ram
[07:05] <albert88nt> sorry for my english
[07:05] <Guido1> histo: yes, it's a bit old and i think about a new one, but i need it until i found and got one for a student price ...
[07:05] <histo> Guido1: do you have a 512mb and a 2gb dim installed?
[07:06] <histo> Guido1: that's what your hardware is reporting.
[07:06] <Guido1> histo: defenetly a 2 GB and the other is somewhere betwen 512MB and 2 GB. in the beginning it was without the 2 GB
[07:07] <Guido1> histo: but 2 GB shoulkd be enough for xubuntu to send a error report, right?
[07:07] <albert88nt> !ask i want to install ubuntu an my laptop on an hard drive of 500Gb.I want to have 3 partition letters(like windows microsoft) C(system),D(my files),E(my files).I have 2 gb ram
[07:08] <histo> Guido1: idk depends on what it's trying to do?
[07:08] <histo> albert88nt: well you don't have drive letters in linux. Are you going to dualboot windows and ubuntu or just ubuntu only?
[07:08] <albert88nt> just ubuntu
[07:09] <Guido1> histo: don't know what the erroreport is about. except that updating, browser and libre office open (not using)
[07:09] <albert88nt> histo: just ubuntu
[07:10] <histo> albert88nt: you can do that. create a / partition for the main os.  Install your files to a /home partition
[07:10] <histo> !it | albert88nt If you want someone that speaks your language
[07:11] <histo> !ro | albert88nt maybe this?
[07:11] <albert88nt> !ro
[07:11] <histo> !partition | albert88nt
[07:19] <djlozo9539> hi
[07:20] <histo> hola
[07:46] <penos> how to upgrade ubuntu to windows 8.1?
[07:46] <histo> penos: You mean downgrade
[07:47] <DJones> penos: Probably a question for ##windows, but I guess, format hdd & install from your Win 8.1 install media
[07:48] <penos> djones wat about mbs?
[07:49] <histo> penos: You could give me the $200 and I'll kick your in the rear instead.
[07:53] <loopbug> ping
[07:53] <histo> pong
[07:55] <loopbug> test
[07:55] <histo> !test | loopbug
[07:55] <loopbug> ok
[08:00] <apb1963> I put my USB 2.0 flash drive in... it fails to automount and I get a notification that it fails.  I run fsck on it, it claims it was not unmounted cleanly.  Now fsck reports that it's clean.  Note - it has not been mounted at this point.  I pull out the stick, and put it back in.  Repeat from beginning.
[08:01] <apb1963> What am I missing?
[08:02] <histo> apb1963: what file system?
[08:02] <apb1963> histo: ext4
[08:02] <histo> apb1963: is there any info in dmesg when it fails to mount?
[08:02] <apb1963> histo: Yes, but nothing terribly useful
[08:03] <apb1963> histo: Just states that it found errors in the journal... which jibes with what fsck says.
[08:05] <someHuman> Hello!
[08:05] <apb1963> histo: If I mount it manually after fsck, there's no problem.  Until I unmount, and pull it back out and then back in again.  Then I go back to the same loop above.
[08:05] <someHuman> My Ubuntu's been starting slowly lately
[08:05] <histo> apb1963: try sync before unmounting
[08:05] <apb1963> apb1963: but.. I didn't write anything!
[08:05] <someHuman> What are ways on how I can make my Ubuntu the fastest and best performance it can be?
[08:06] <apb1963> oh look i'm talking to myself.  lol
[08:06] <apb1963> histo: ok, good idea
[08:06] <histo> apb1963: sudo sync && sudo umount /whatever
[08:06] <apb1963> histo: sync; sync; sync; :)
[08:07] <histo> someHuman: use a SSD or a different DE
[08:07] <someHuman> histo: What DE is better for Ubuntu?
[08:07] <helmut_> hi
[08:07] <someHuman> I'm a person who cares about functionality rather than looks/arts/graphics/etc.
[08:07] <histo> someHuman: whatever de you like, Some lighter ones might be XFCE, LXDE, or you can go really light with like i3wm or openbox etc...
[08:08] <someHuman> Yeah XFCE is probably what am talking about
[08:08] <histo> someHuman: do you like vim?
[08:08] <someHuman> histo: vim?
[08:08] <histo> someHuman: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop for xfce
[08:08] <someHuman> histo: Thanks!
[08:08] <histo> someHuman: then at your login screen just select xfce for the session
[08:08] <someHuman> Will that give me the latest stable?
[08:08] <someHuman> histo: Thanks!
[08:09] <histo> !info xfce
[08:09] <apb1963> histo: nope... same old same old
[08:09] <histo> !info xfce4 | someHuman
[08:09] <histo> apb1963: that's odd.
[08:10] <apb1963> histo: I thought so
[08:10] <histo> apb1963: mount backup your stuff, and format
[08:10] <someHuman> histo: This is the latest release http://archive.xfce.org/xfce/4.10/
[08:10] <someHuman> I've just seen it
[08:10] <histo> apb1963: also you shouldn't be using ext4 on that.
[08:10] <apb1963> histo: what should I be using?
[08:10] <histo> apb1963: well you can but I'd turn off journaling
[08:10] <apb1963> histo: now that's something I'm not sure how to do.
[08:10] <histo> someHuman: well if you are running 14.04 then you will get xfce 4.10
[08:11] <someHuman> histo: Cool! Thanks!
[08:11] <someHuman> histo: Will it be the same experience? Just a different desktop?
[08:11] <histo> apb1963: then journaling will cause excessive writes to the disk. With it being a thumb drive and having a limited number of writes before failure that's not what you would want.
[08:11] <someHuman> I also want to delete Unity
[08:11] <someHuman> I don't like it, it's slow haha!
[08:11] <histo> apb1963: just use vfat
[08:11] <apb1963> histo: ok.  i'll do that right now
[08:11] <someHuman> Especially the fade effect whenever I ctrl+d
[08:12] <someHuman> I don't need effects that much lol
[08:12] <someHuman> I also hate the panel
[08:12] <histo> !purexfce | someHuman
[08:12] <someHuman> Side panel
[08:12] <histo> someHuman: althoguht the packages being installed will not effect performance in xfce
[08:12] <someHuman> I want the GUI to be the same as Windows 8.1
[08:12] <someHuman> Windows 8.1 GUI is straight up
[08:12] <histo> someHuman: Don't know of a DE that looks like the metro interface
[08:13] <someHuman> histo: No what I mean is the GUI of Windows 8.1 is simple.
[08:13] <histo> someHuman: so is unity's IMHO
[08:13] <someHuman> The alt+tab, ctrl+d, taskbar they're simple and fast.
[08:13] <apb1963> histo: vfat is not a choice in partition manager
[08:13] <histo> apb1963: fat
[08:14] <someHuman> We'll just see how after I've got XFCE :D
[08:14] <apb1963> histo: fat16 and fat32
[08:14] <histo> apb1963: fat32
[08:15] <histo> apb1963: http://archive09.linux.com/feature/131218
[08:15] <wilee-nilee> fresh from 2008
[08:15] <someHuman> gedit or emacs?
[08:16] <bazhang> someHuman, dont poll here
[08:16] <someHuman> bazhang: Ok
[08:16] <apb1963> histo: article is 6 years old
[08:16] <apb1963> haha wilee-nilee saw that too
[08:16] <histo> someHuman: you still have alt+tab in unity and you can create keyboard shortcuts for system monitor like the task manager in windblows
[08:17] <someHuman> histo: Haha what do people hate about Windows anyway?
[08:17] <histo> someHuman: Well you couldn't change your DE to whatever you fancied in windblows now could you?
[08:17] <someHuman> histo: Yup
[08:18] <histo> someHuman: psssst.... it's not free either.
[08:19] <apb1963> histo: fat32... Problem Remains the Same
[08:20] <histo> apb1963: how are you un mounting the drive?  are you just yanking it out?
[08:20] <apb1963> histo: Yes
[08:21] <histo> apb1963: do you have another thumb drive to test?
[08:22] <apb1963> sorry... was time for my quarter of the hour irc client crash.
[08:22] <apb1963> histo: actually... it mounted.. even though the message said it didn't
[08:22] <histo> apb1963: that's odd.
[08:22] <apb1963> histo: very
[08:23] <apb1963> histo: but yes... I have another one
[08:24] <histo> apb1963: see if the other one behaves the same way.
[08:25] <nexa1> Good morning
[08:25] <nexa1> how are you guys
[08:25] <apb1963> histo: it does.  Notification of failure to mount... but mounts anyway.
[08:25] <nexa1> what is the newest ubuntu news today
[08:26] <histo> apb1963: What version of ubuntu are you running?
[08:26] <someHuman> histo: I didn't see that much of a change when I installed XFCE
[08:26] <histo> someHuman: change in what?
[08:26] <apb1963> histo: 12.04
[08:26] <someHuman> histo: Performance
[08:26] <someHuman> histo: It in fact slowed
[08:27] <someHuman> Ok how I want my DE to look is to be similar to Cinammon
[08:27] <histo> apb1963: Is this a gui error you are receiving?
[08:27] <apb1963> histo: yes
[08:27] <histo> someHuman: then install cinammon
[08:27] <histo> someHuman: what type of video card do you have?
[08:27] <someHuman> histo: AMD
[08:27] <histo> someHuman: and what are you measuring your performance by?
[08:27] <someHuman> Speed
[08:28] <someHuman> histo: I want speed :D
[08:28] <someHuman> Speed and stability
[08:29] <histo> someHuman: speed of what and what are you compairing it to?
[08:29] <someHuman> histo: Mint
[08:29] <someHuman> histo: I mean Manjaro
[08:29] <someHuman> Manjaro Linux
[08:30] <histo> someHuman: I doubt you'll see much difference speed wise from xubuntu to manjaro
[08:30] <histo> someHuman: ahh it's arch based
[08:30] <someHuman> I also want to change the look of my DE, probably similar to Cinammon
[08:30] <nexa1> why i have to update
[08:30] <someHuman> histo: Yup
[08:30] <nexa1> major reason i meant?!
[08:30] <histo> someHuman: you can install cinnamon
[08:31] <someHuman> histo: On it
[08:31] <someHuman> It seems that I replaced Unity?
[08:31] <histo> someHuman: you didn't replace unity you just installed xfce
[08:31] <someHuman> The only change I have noticed is the login screen and bootsplash
[08:31] <someHuman> Is anything bad about removing Unity?
[08:32] <someHuman> That probably slows the boot.
[08:32] <someHuman> I expect XFCE to speed things up
[08:32] <someHuman> I'm not getting my expectation :(
[08:34] <histo> someHuman: unity has nothing to do with the boot
[08:35] <someHuman> histo: It's slower now :(
[08:35] <someHuman> It's suppose to speed things u[p
[08:35] <histo> someHuman: I highly doubt that.
[08:35] <someHuman> up*
[08:35] <someHuman> Yeah it is slow
[08:35] <histo> someHuman: installing xfce would not effect your boot speed.
[08:35] <someHuman> histo: Can I remove Unity then?
[08:35] <someHuman> Will I lose stuff?
[08:35] <histo> !purexfce | someHuman
[08:37] <histo> someone: you are not going to achieve boot speeds anywhere close to an arch system though unless you take similar approach to your setup.
[08:37] <labeeb32> i want to install ubuntu on windows 8.1
[08:37] <histo> somsip: i.e. install a minimal system and work you way up with no-recomends
[08:37] <labeeb32> i have shrinked  free space
[08:37] <histo> labeeb32: download virtualbox
[08:37] <labeeb32> let me finish plz
[08:37] <histo> labeeb32: or do you mean dualboot
[08:38] <labeeb32> then i disabled fast boot
[08:38] <labeeb32> secure boot is also disabled
[08:38] <someHuman> Yes!
[08:38] <wilee-nilee> labeeb32, All in one post please
[08:38] <labeeb32> im using bootable usb for buntu
[08:38] <someHuman> Done it! :D
[08:38] <labeeb32> oh sorry
[08:38] <someHuman> No more annoying Unity stuff haha!
[08:38] <bazhang> labeeb32, use the enter key less please
[08:38] <someHuman> histo:  and bazhang Thanks guys!
[08:38] <someHuman> Now I have to setup the menu keyboard key
[08:38] <apb1963> histo: fixed it
[08:39] <histo> labeeb32: did you download the 64bit version?
[08:39] <someHuman> histo: Main thanks to you man! :D
[08:39] <labeeb32> when ubuntu installation page shows partitions, it just shows all my hard in one piece. i mean no unallocated space or my windows partitions.
[08:39] <histo> apb1963: what was the issue?
[08:39] <someHuman> Where is menu located?
[08:39] <apb1963> histo: /etc/usbmount/usbmount.conf  I disabled automounting... go figure.
[08:40] <histo> !enter | labeeb32
[08:40] <histo> apb1963: lol
[08:40] <labeeb32> yes 64 bit
[08:40]  * histo shakes fist at whomever removed that factoid
[08:41] <someHuman> Where is the menu button located?
[08:41] <someHuman> I want to assign it to super key/windows key
[08:41] <larrypg> someHuman, right click
[08:41] <apb1963> apb1963: the primary difference is that instead of mounting at /media/usb0, now it mounts at /media/<my login id>/<random Hex string>
[08:41] <histo> someHuman: what menu button?
[08:41] <wilee-nilee> labeeb32, Worth looking at. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[08:41] <apb1963> histo:  ^
[08:42] <histo> apb1963: I don't believe that string is random, it's probably the guid of the disk
[08:42] <apb1963> apb1963: probably right.
[08:42] <histo> apb1963: try sudo blkid and compare
[08:42] <apb1963> histo: on the money... it's the uuid
[08:43] <apb1963> histo: but now i'm concerned about my other external usb hard  drive which was happily automounting 4 partitions.
[08:43] <histo> labeeb32: What are you expecting to see on the partitioning screen?
[08:44] <apb1963> apb1963: Guess I'll cross that bridge yada yada
[08:44] <apb1963> sigh... I must be tired... keep talking to myself.  <mumble mumble>
[08:44] <histo> apb1963: what's wrong with the other external?
[08:44] <Kovacs> Hello
[08:45] <apb1963> histo: nothing.  yet.  I'm just worried that since I disabled automounting, it will be affected.
[08:45] <apb1963> histo: won't know until I reboot
[08:46] <histo> apb1963: Oh ... So you didn't fix the issue you just disabled the automounting.
[08:46] <histo> apb1963: I thought you meant it was disabled orignally.
[08:46] <histo> apb1963: NO idea why your thumb drives are throwing errors with automount on. That's odd.
[08:46] <Kovacs> Hmm, I have a problem, when I install java (with sudo apt-get install default-jdk), the intall is OK but I havve an error : E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1), can you help me ? :D
[08:46] <apb1963> histo: no... it was enabled.  I disabled it, and then it automounted.
[08:46] <apb1963> histo: very odd
[08:47] <apb1963> histo: Odder than the Odd Couple.
[08:48] <Kovacs> Anyone can help me ? :(
[08:48] <someHuman> Woah I lost a lot of keyboard shortcuts!
[08:48] <someHuman> Where is the whisker menu located?
[08:48] <apb1963> histo: so here comes my primary test for the monkey drive... Back In Time :)
[08:48] <lamrz> hello everyone, do you know if photorec or testdisk has an own irc channel? (read it also as whether I can ask my question here? :) )
[08:48] <someHuman> I think whisker is how the call it. The menu button. Here it
[08:48] <someHuman> it's a mouse logo.*
[08:48] <histo> lamrz: just ask
[08:48] <someHuman> I can no longer also change the volume via keyboard keys.
[08:48] <someHuman> Like volume and brightness
[08:49] <someHuman> Also lost my keys to lock screen
[08:49] <bazhang> !alis | lamrz
[08:49] <histo> someHuman: change your binds
[08:49] <histo> bazhang: they dont' have a channel here
[08:49] <someHuman> Also what's the equivalent of super+s?
[08:50] <histo> lamrz: They don't have a channel here. There is a forum on their site; however, I'm also quite experienced with both so if you want ask away.
[08:50] <histo> someHuman: You're not making any sense whatsoever.
[08:50] <lamrz> thank you histo! thank you bazhang! I have a big problem, I have to find my keyring files that were deleted. I am trying it with photorec, it has pgp/gpg search option, though with partial support, as it says. and then there is a "brute force" enable/disable option. I'd like to ask if it damages my disk or the current files in it to enable brute force.
[08:50] <someHuman> histo: I done it haha!
[08:51] <histo> lamrz: if you're worried about damaging the disk, I would create an image and work from that image.  Photorec should be read only.
[08:55] <Kovacs> histo : Can you help me ? I have an error when I'm trying to install java (with sudo apt-get install default-jdk) it make many errors about DPKG and I have that : "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)",
[09:01] <solars> does anyone know how to show the current urxvt font?
[09:04] <lamrz> histo, I have several disks to search, creating images should take time, I think?
[09:04] <lamrz> or rather, I guess?
[09:05] <lamrz> histo, do you mean, read-only prevents damaging even if I dont create an image, and work on the disk directly?
[09:07] <histo> lamrz: The first rule of data recovery create an image and work from that. If any writes are comitted to the disk you are losing chances at recovery of your files.
[09:07] <histo> lamrz: just the disk being mounted causes changes etc...
[09:12] <Jordan_U> lamrz:
[09:13] <lamrz> histo, how can I create that image? with dd?
[09:15] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> HELP
[09:15] <Jordan_U> lamrz: I thought you said you wiped all of the keyring files?
[09:15] <histo> lamrz: dd if=/dev/of/your/disk  of=/path/to/where/you/want/image bs=1M
[09:15] <bcvery> !ask | GuyThatNeedsHelp
[09:15] <histo> !dd | lamrz
[09:15] <jackarius86> hi does anyone here use cmus? I am having trouble getting it to play my m4a files
[09:15] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> i keep getting disconnected
[09:16] <Jordan_U> lamrz: And make sure that the place your saving to is not one of the disks you're trying to recover files from.
[09:16] <bcvery> !details | GuyThatNeedsHelp, disconnected from what?
[09:16] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> from my internet, i have a phone and the wifi works fine but on ubuntu it keeps disconnecting
[09:17] <lamrz> Jordan_U, there are some usb and hard drives that have at least once contained the files. I thought it is worth the try.
[09:17] <apb1963> histo: any special reason you told him a 1M block size... other than it's pretty big?
[09:17] <Jordan_U> lamrz: Ok.
[09:17] <histo> !undelete | lamrz
[09:18] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> hello
[09:19] <histo> hi
[09:20] <lamrz> danke histo!
[09:21] <lamrz> thank you, I mean. :)
[09:21] <lamrz> I was talking german recently
[09:23] <yakiza> hELLO
[09:23] <yakiza>  i have a problem
[09:23] <yakiza>  i cant run somethink
[09:23] <yakiza>   well i download lineage 2(game) but i couldent run it
[09:23] <yakiza>  i search on internet and i saw that i have to download
[09:23] <yakiza> wine
[09:23] <yakiza>  i did it but again nothink
[09:23] <yakiza> ...
[09:23] <yakiza>  can someone help me
[09:24] <histo> yakiza: is it a steam game?
[09:24] <yakiza> NO
[09:24] <histo> !appdb | yakiza
[09:24] <histo> yakiza: you can install wine from the software center also
[09:24] <yakiza>  you jut download the clinet (lineage 2 hight five)  then you download the server sytem that you want to join and you join
[09:25] <yakiza>   ubottu i know but  everyone say that i have to download it  or i cant play the game
[09:25] <histo> yakiza: yeah that's if they have a linux client or if the application works with wine then you do the same thing.
[09:25] <yakiza> ok
[09:25] <histo> yakiza: apt-get install wine
[09:25] <yakiza> i did it histo
[09:25] <yakiza>  i installit like this
[09:26] <yakiza>  i pm you on private
[09:26] <histo> yakiza: okay then wine whateversetup.exe  or follow the directions on the wine appdb
[09:26] <yakiza>   sec
[09:30] <lamrz> histo, I can create an image of the whole disk at one run, right? that is, it doesnt matter that it has encrypted partitions like /dev/sdb1, /dev/sdb2..
[09:33] <beggera> can anyone plz help me regarding dual boot ubuntu on windows instalation. i am installing 14.04 version on windows 8.1. in windows i shrinked free space but during installation process of ubuntu, it shows all hard in one piece.
[09:33] <beggera> i cant see that free space
[09:34] <histo> lamrz: were the files stored on the encrypted partitions?
[09:34] <histo> lamrz: to answer your question you can create an image of the whole disk or individual partitions
[09:34] <Jordan_U> beggera: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[09:35] <lamrz> histo, no, at the time when the file was on the drive, the location was not encrypted
[09:35] <lamrz> but that respective location may currently be encrypted
[09:37] <histo> lamrz: What??
[09:38] <histo> lamrz: please pm me as this is getting offtopic for #ubuntu
[09:40] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> can anyone help me with this? I keep getting disconnected from my wifi, for an example i have to disconnect from my wifi to get it to work. but it only works for about 15 secs and after that when i try to connect to something like google it keeps just loading the page and takes a long time. at first i thought i just had bad internet but on my phone my connection is great
[09:41] <jackarius86> does anyone use cmus?
[09:42] <bcvery> !ask | jackarius86
[09:43] <jackarius86> IF anyone uses cmus, do you know how to make it play m4a files properly?
[09:44] <jackarius86> at the moment all i get is static when i try to play them
[09:45] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> No help?
[09:46] <jackarius86> GuyThatNeedsHelp: try in ##linux
[09:51] <iraci> ciao a tutti
[09:52] <iraci> chi mi può consigliare un programma per il montaggio delle foto
[09:52] <iraci> jester- ci sei
[09:52] <DJones> !it | iraci
[09:53] <iraci> ok scusa
[09:54] <jackarius86> IF anyone uses cmus, do you know how to make it play m4a files properly?
[09:54] <jackarius86> at the moment all i get is static when i try to play them
[09:56] <Cyberspirit> http://pastebin.com/qaEfUsYd
[09:58] <Alex_> ERROR: The kernel header file        '/lib/modules/3.13.0-27-generic/build/include/linux/version.h' does not        exist.  The most likely reason for this is that the kernel source files        in '/lib/modules/3.13.0-27-generic/build' have not been configured.
[09:59] <jackarius86> IF anyone uses cmus, do you know how to make it play m4a files properly?
[09:59] <jackarius86> at the moment all i get is static when i try to play them
[10:00] <histo> Cyberspirit: lspci | grep Network
[10:00] <blizzy> what's up, guys?
[10:00] <blizzy> i just installed ubuntu 14.04
[10:00] <blizzy> unity sucks
[10:01] <blizzy> i'm going back to debian
[10:01] <titch515> lol
[10:01] <bcvery> !ot | blizzy, don't use this channel to vent/rant
[10:02] <blizzy> okay
[10:02] <blizzy> sorry i upset you
[10:02] <blizzy> lol
[10:02] <Alex_> ERROR: The kernel header file        '/lib/modules/3.13.0-27-generic/build/include/linux/version.h' does not        exist.  The most likely reason for this is that the kernel source files        in '/lib/modules/3.13.0-27-generic/build' have not been configured.
[10:03] <histo> blizzy: no one is forcing you to use unity btw
[10:04] <gry> blizzy: I've been using ubuntu for 4 years without unity - I like the people. What you like is up to you though; your call.
[10:04] <blizzy> i like the debian people
[10:04] <blizzy> gry
[10:04] <mashu> are there different GUIs for ubuntu??
[10:04] <blizzy> they're more intelligent
[10:04] <histo> blizzy: then why are you here /j #debian
[10:05] <titch515> @mashu loads
[10:05] <gry> blizzy: thanks :) I like both
[10:05] <histo> blizzy: Yes because you are displaying some real intelligence with your comments. You obviously belong elsewhere.
[10:05] <mashu> titch515, unity is one isnt it? what are the others? how do you change?
[10:05] <gry> mashu: yes, I think they're called 'desktop environments'
[10:05] <gry> !de
[10:05] <gry> nope, not that
[10:06] <bcvery> !desktop | mashu
[10:06] <gry> thanks bcvery
[10:06] <titch515> ^^ what he said
[10:06] <mashu> titch515, those are the different flavours ... how do i change?
[10:07] <Alex_> ERROR: The kernel header file        '/lib/modules/3.13.0-27-generic/build/include/linux/version.h' does not        exist.  The most likely reason for this is that the kernel source files        in '/lib/modules/3.13.0-27-generic/build' have not been configured.
[10:07] <someHuman> I originally had Ubuntu 14.04 as one of my native OS, and had just replaced unity with XFCE DE
[10:07] <lamrz> Jordan_U, histo has quit all of a sudden. he last told me that I could mount the drives read only to use photorec. In this case do I not need to create dd images anymoreß
[10:08] <someHuman> Is my case similar to installing Xubuntu mainly?
[10:08] <gry> someHuman: there is not always a need to replace. Our local sysadmin customized gnome to an extent that it's hard to find a difference of his setup and xfce.
[10:08] <someHuman> gry: I like my DE better than Unity
[10:08] <gry> I think that potential might be ...underestimated.
[10:08] <someHuman> It crashes and stuff
[10:09] <mashu> !GUI
[10:09] <gry> I don't have a way to know, I didn't try it. I recall it's more stable in 14.04 than in non-LTS releases.
[10:09] <titch515> Mashu: install the desktop environment you want and then choose it at the login screen
[10:09] <someHuman> gry: Yup
[10:09] <lamrz> does mounting a drive read-only eliminates the need to create its image before deploying photorec on it?
[10:10] <titch515> sudo apt-get install <desktop package>
[10:10] <lamrz> eliminate*
[10:10] <someHuman> In my case, seems like as if I had Xubuntu originally. In Xubuntu's download page http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ they offer Trusty Tahr too which is probably the same as with Ubuntu
[10:11] <someHuman> sudo apt-get upgrade is a full system update right?
[10:11] <someHuman> I am doing it now
[10:11] <ikonia> someHuman: define "upgrade" from what to what are you expecting
[10:11] <someHuman> ikonia: I just want my system to be up to date
[10:12] <ikonia> someHuman: that will take your packages to the current versions in the repo
[10:12] <someHuman> ikonia: Ah, what then is a full system update?
[10:12] <ikonia> system update ? from what to what ?
[10:12] <iptable> someHuman, apt-get upgrade will update all packages in your current ubuntu version to latest, also installing any new dependencies that might be required to perform full package upgrade. It does not get your from 12.04 to 14.04.
[10:13] <mashu> someHuman, sudo apt-get update
[10:13] <someHuman> iptable: Ah, I lack of my expression.
[10:13] <mashu> someHuman, sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:13] <someHuman> I ran upgrade instead of update
[10:13] <ikonia> update just updates the meta package index
[10:13] <someHuman> I don't want to go to any versions of my distro, just want to update my packages.
[10:14] <iptable> someHuman, apt-get update will udpate a list of package available in the repo. Following that, apt-get upgrade will upgrade all those packages that are old, as I described
[10:14] <ikonia> someHuman: apt-get update to bring your package LIST up to date, then apt-get upgrade to upgrade those packages to the lates versions in the list
[10:14] <someHuman> I probably won't go into other versions of Ubuntu as 14.04 is the latest lol.
[10:14] <someHuman> ikonia: Ah ok
[10:14] <iptable> someHuman, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:14] <someHuman> Will upgrade literally upgrade the packages into the latest? Even if it isn't stable?
[10:15] <someHuman> That's how I see the difference of update from upgrade.
[10:15] <ikonia> it weill not go outside your distro version
[10:15] <ikonia> someHuman: no
[10:15] <ikonia> it takes you to the latest version in the distro version, defined by the list you get from "apt-get update"
[10:15] <someHuman> ikonia: Ah cool! I just want the stable release.
[10:16] <jackarius86> IF anyone uses cmus, do you know how to make it play m4a files properly?
[10:16] <jackarius86> at the moment all i get is static when i try to play them
[10:16] <iptable> someHuman, it will update them to the latest version available in the repos you are using. If you are using official repos for 14.04, it will upgrade to the latest available there - stable.
[10:16] <mashu> just out of curiosity what is the difference between linux minut and ubuntu apart form the installed programs and GUI?
[10:17] <Ben64> jackarius86: maybe try a different player?
[10:20] <Cyberspirit> I would like to download a full set of the ubuntu isos for server and desktop, with a large mirror of the entire repository, could someone please point me in the right direction (eg, url), I've gone to the site and cant find the links to any DVD isos for ubuntu
[10:20] <Cyberspirit> I'm kinda paranoid that the worlds going to end and that I'm going to lose access to apt-get
[10:20] <Cyberspirit> thats my reason and I'm sticking to it
[10:22] <bcvery> Cyberspirit, both server and desktop can be downloaded from www.ubuntu.com/download/server and www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop respectively
[10:22] <moarrr_bitcoinz> ive installed the standard desktop version of ubunu, 14.04 LTS
[10:22] <moarrr_bitcoinz> is there anything i need to do to make it secure?
[10:23] <Cyberspirit> ubuntu.com/download/server just links to the cd iso, not dvd iso
[10:24] <Cyberspirit> should I just make a mirror of the repository?
[10:25] <amriunix> what's up guys !! :)
[10:26] <mashu> what is the most popular desktop environment for ubuntu?
[10:26] <amriunix> mashu: gnome,kde !!!
[10:34] <iptable> mashu, for ubuntu itself out of the box, that would be unity. Some people choose to install KDE, others Gnome3 or Cinnamon. On slow machines some install Mate. Now install all of them, have a look and pick the one you like the most. And YES, they can all coexist, you pick which one to start at login.
[10:35] <mashu> iptable, thanks
[10:35] <jackarius86> at the moment all i get is static when i try to play them
[10:35] <jackarius86> IF anyone uses cmus, do you know how to make it play m4a files properly?
[10:35] <jackarius86> at the moment all i get is static when i try to play them
[10:35] <labeeb32> i cannot see unallocated space for ubuntu dual boot in windows in ubuntu installation
[10:35] <jackarius86> Ben64: i dont want to use a different player :P
[10:35] <jackarius86> i really enjoy using cmus
[10:35] <Ben64> then you probably can't listen to m4a's
[10:36] <labeeb32> someone guide me
[10:37] <labeeb32> can anyone ??? plzz
[10:37] <bcvery> !patience | labeeb32
[10:39] <labeeb32> i have windows 8.1 and i want to dual boot ubuntu. i shrinked from c but this unallocated space does not show up in ubuntu installation. it shows all hard in one piece
[10:39] <mashu> i got this msg when installing gnome desktop environent ...  A display manager is a program that provides graphical login              │
[10:39] <mashu>  │ capabilities for the X Window System.                                     │
[10:39] <mashu>  │                                                                           │
[10:39] <mashu>  │ Only one display manager can manage a given X server, but multiple        │
[10:39] <mashu>  │ display manager packages are installed. Please select which display       │
[10:39] <mashu>  │ manager should run by default.                                            │
[10:39] <unopaste> mashu you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[10:40] <jjavaholic> where do I change the opacity of what was the global menu in 14.04?
[10:41] <mashu> jjavaholic, download "unity tweak tool"
[10:41] <losaka> hey
[10:42] <jjavaholic> I had/have that but get a the following schema is missing: com.canonical.unity.webapps
[10:42] <labeeb32> i have windows 8.1 and i want to dual boot ubuntu. i shrinked from c but this unallocated space does not show up in ubuntu installation. it shows all hard in one piece. and it says its all free.
[10:42] <histo> !dualboot | labeeb32
[10:42] <labeeb32> i followed accordingly but still i have unusual results
[10:43] <labeeb32> like it said, i disabled secure boot and fast startup
[10:47] <philinux> jjavaholic;~ what do you want to set the opacity too
[10:47] <histo> labeeb32: are you sure the hard drive has been resized properly?
[10:49] <philinux> jjavaholic;~ you can change it with compizconfig-settings-manager
[10:49] <labeeb32> yes the unallocated space is seen in disk management in windows
[10:50] <mashu> when installing gnomeshell i was asked lightdm or gdm?
[10:50] <mashu> which one should i choose>?
[10:50] <histo> labeeb32: did you select to install along side windows?
[10:51] <philinux> jjavaholic;~ as seen here. it should still work in 14.04 http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/transparent-panel-titlebar-ubuntu-unity/
[10:51] <labeeb32> i dont know where to select it.
[10:51] <labeeb32> there was no such option
[10:51] <histo> labeeb32: Where are you in the install process
[10:51] <labeeb32> its ubuntu 14.04
[10:51] <histo> labeeb32: i'm aware of that
[10:52] <labeeb32> right where u have to chose disk for ubuntu
[10:52] <labeeb32> partitions
[10:52] <histo> labeeb32: what are your options?
[10:53] <bcvery> mashu, go for lightdm for the moment - this can be changed later on if you decide to use GNOME
[10:53] <yakiza> hello i
[10:53] <Guest86431> hi
[10:53] <yakiza> ela
[10:54] <labeeb32> i chose 'something else' option then i have 2 options 1. /dev/sda 2. free space that is 500107mb. Thats my hard disk
[10:55] <histo> labeeb32: Okay so it doesn't see the windows partition or it doesn't see the freespace?
[10:55] <labeeb32> it sees nothing. its just showing all my hardisk as free space
[10:55] <histo> labeeb32: can you post a picture of your screen please
[10:55] <histo> !pastebin | labeeb32
[10:56] <labeeb32> sure
[10:56] <histo> labeeb32: take a pic with your phone or camera and put it on imagebin.org/?page=add
[10:56] <histo> labeeb32: did you select try ubuntu, and then click the installer?
[10:56] <icesherpa24> labeeb32 naybe go back if its not to late and take another look choose instal along side windows what do you think histo
[10:57] <histo> icesherpa24: yeah that's what I told him hours ago
[10:57] <icesherpa24> ok
[10:57] <Cyberspirit> I need to remove sudo
[10:57] <Cyberspirit> its driving me crazy
[10:57] <histo> Cyberspirit: why?
[10:57] <Cyberspirit> because i've been using debian for 10 years
[10:57] <Cyberspirit> without sudo
[10:57] <labeeb32> there is no such option as alongside windows
[10:58] <histo> labeeb32: Does it say that it failed to detect an operating system?
[10:58] <philinux> jjavaholic;~ I just changed it with tweak. It's the Panel tab you need
[10:58] <ranjan> hi all, any IBM Lotus users out there who has successfully installed Lotus Notes and Sametime on Ubuntu 14.04?
[10:58] <histo> labeeb32: and did you start ubuntu with the "try ubuntu" or the "install" option?
[10:59] <jjavaholic> phillinux:something near zero
[10:59] <histo> oh well I have to go someone else i'm sure will help.
[11:00] <philinux> jjavaholic;~ just push the slider to the right under the Panel tab of unity tweak tool
[11:00] <philinux> simples
[11:00] <bobharry> Hi im getting errors with mysql but its a ubuntu problem
[11:00] <ddrs>  #kali-linux
[11:00] <bobharry> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7594078/
[11:02] <labeeb32> well it says this computer has no detected operating systems. and i chose something else option
[11:03] <bobharry> Does anyone know the fix?
[11:05] <gry> bobharry: sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.5
[11:05] <bobharry> k one sec
[11:07] <bobharry> root@playmcpe:~# sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.5 /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: mysql-server-5.5 is broken or not fully installed
[11:07] <labeeb32> http://imagebin.org/312799
[11:08] <gry> bobharry, sudo aptitude reinstall mysql-server-5.5
[11:08] <bobharry> labeeb32: Google Chrome has blocked access to imagebin.org for now. gg
[11:09] <labeeb32> so wghat can i do?
[11:09] <bobharry> Its malware
[11:09] <bobharry> xD
[11:10] <labeeb32> best sao
[11:10] <damocles> hi , i m looking for a channel in french for an help to configure Ubuntu
[11:10] <yakiza> guys anyone who know about wine
[11:11] <DJones> damocles: #ubuntu-fr is french language support
[11:11] <jnhghy> damocles: #ubuntu-fr
[11:11] <jnhghy> #ubuntu-fr-testing
[11:11] <jnhghy> #ubuntu-fr-meeting
[11:11] <jnhghy> #ubuntu-fr-offtopic
[11:11] <damocles> ok thanks
[11:11] <bobharry> gry: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7594112/
[11:11] <bobharry> Error
[11:11] <DJones> yakiza: Probably best joining ##winehq and asking there
[11:11] <madhatter_> yoh
[11:12]  * gry reads the previous one again
[11:12] <labeeb32> what can i do now?
[11:12] <philinux> yakiza;~ what is it are you trying or wnating to install
[11:12]  * bobharry Laughs
[11:12] <yakiza> i wanna play a game
[11:12] <yakiza>  and i cant runn it
[11:13] <bobharry> What game
[11:13] <gry> bobharry, sudo apt-get remove mysql-server-5.5; sudo apt-get install mysql-server-5.5
[11:13] <philinux> yakiza;~ thats cos it's an exe windows game
[11:13] <yakiza> yes i know i have downloaded the wine
[11:13] <gry> yakiza, does it give you an error message?
[11:13] <philinux> yakiza;~ you could try playonlinux
[11:13] <yakiza>  but  again nothink
[11:13] <yakiza>  no
[11:13] <gry> you might want to ask #winehq about it
[11:13] <yakiza>  i just cant run it
[11:13] <yakiza>  ok
[11:13] <yakiza>  i go ther
[11:14] <gry> if you run it from terminal, it will probably give you an error message
[11:14] <philinux> yakiza;~ have you looked on the wine site and check if it runs under wine
[11:14] <philinux> Here http://appdb.winehq.org/
[11:15] <bobharry> gry: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7594137/
[11:15]  * bobharry laughs
[11:15] <bobharry> Never gonna find a fix >.<
[11:16] <gry> that "runlevel:/var/run/utmp: No such file or directory" thing is bothering me enough now to read on it
[11:16]  * bobharry laughs
[11:16] <bobharry> It loves to keep saying that
[11:16] <bobharry> I don't even know what it does though
[11:18] <llutz> bobharry: what's the output of "cat /etc/issue"
[11:18] <bobharry> Mhm one sec
[11:18] <bobharry> Wait how do I find that out? xD
[11:18] <bobharry> Im noob xD
[11:18] <llutz> bobharry: that is a command, just enter it into a terminal
[11:19] <bobharry> root@playmcpe:~# cat /etc/issue Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l
[11:19] <philinux> bobharry;~ seems you not alone. http://askubuntu.com/questions/296946/upstart-cant-start-mysql
[11:19] <bobharry> :C
[11:19] <bobharry> philinux: That is 13.04 though
[11:19] <gry> there is plenty of incompetent information at the URL philinux posted
[11:20] <bobharry> Yet the error is a little different to that link
[11:20] <philinux> gry;~ seems the missing directory is partly to blame
[11:21] <philinux> thats what I was pointing at
[11:21] <bobharry> Mhm let me give it a go
[11:22] <philinux> bobharry;~ you can always remove that directory if it does not help
[11:22] <bobharry> Ill try what it says in the link first
[11:23] <philinux> bobharry;~ yes the rest is not applicable i reckon
[11:23] <bobharry> Ok i hope this works
[11:26] <bobharry> Urgh it didn't work im doomed
[11:28] <bobharry> mhm it seems its frozen :3
[11:29] <bobharry> seems to be stuck on runlevel:/var/run/utmp: No such file or directory
[11:29] <bobharry> Its not moving ._.
[11:30] <rtur> Hi guys, in my device.map are my three drives listed by id but two of them are in a LVM VG does grub need to know about this or is it enough to list the drives but not LVM PD ?
[11:31] <labeeb32> why does it say that there is no operating system detected during ubuntu installation
[11:31] <rtur> labeeb32: is there one ?
[11:31] <bobharry> gry: do you have any other fixes?
[11:31] <labeeb32> yes wondows 8.1
[11:33] <rtur> labeeb32: try os-prober , what does it say ?
[11:33] <labeeb32> what?
[11:33] <labeeb32> os-prober
[11:34] <rtur> labeeb32: yeas, it's a program. Do you have a shell ?
[11:34] <bobharry> labeeb32: You know any other fix?
[11:34] <labeeb32> noo
[11:34] <labeeb32> who says so?
[11:35] <bobharry> mhm
[11:35] <rtur> labeeb32: You could ignore it for the moment, install ubuntu (but WITHOUT overwriting your win partitions) and reinstall grub after the ubuntu installation
[11:35] <Ben64> labeeb32: this seems to be your problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2181189
[11:36] <labeeb32> i cant see any partitions. just all my hard disk in one piece by name free space
[11:36] <labeeb32> so i cant continue ubuntu installation
[11:36] <gry> bobharry: I would probably ask at the Ubuntu Mailing List or just stay in here for another few hours (if it's a server, try #ubuntu-server)
[11:36] <bobharry> eh?? mailing list?
[11:36] <bobharry> #ubuntu-server
[11:36] <bobharry> fAIL
[11:37] <KGM70> o/
[11:39] <maddawg3> labeeb32 your install only sees one partition and it's empty?
[11:40] <labeeb32> yes
[11:41] <labeeb32> and i found this. If Windows is now MBR you just need to remove backup gpt partition table. FixParts is the easiest way to remove the stray GPT data. GPT fdisk (gdisk or sgdisk) can do it, but the procedure's a bit more involved.
[11:41] <Ben64> labeeb32: did you see the link i sent you?
[11:41] <labeeb32> yes i did
[11:41] <labeeb32> If Windows is now MBR you just need to remove backup gpt partition table. FixParts is the easiest way to remove the stray GPT data. GPT fdisk (gdisk or sgdisk) can do it, but the procedure's a bit more involved.
[11:44] <maddawg3> labeeb32 out of curiosity how large is your drive and does the ubuntu installer report it as that big?
[11:44] <labeeb32> 500GB and installer shows it as free space
[11:44] <maddawg3> but it says that's 500GB in the installer right?
[11:44] <maddawg3> i'm trying to see if it's not picking up a partition for some reason
[11:45] <labeeb32> yes in installer
[11:45] <maddawg3> cuz it's odd that it'd be free space if you have stuff on it (unless you formated the drive)
[11:45] <labeeb32> i didnt format
[11:45] <maddawg3> well then that's just strange.. what's the file system?
[11:45] <labeeb32> and i can restart and boot windows normally. i tried it
[11:46] <labeeb32> file system?
[11:47] <labeeb32> its MBR system
[11:53] <labeeb32> maddawg
[11:54] <labeeb32> maddawg3
[11:54] <walls> hello guys
[11:56] <santhosh> lubuntu14.04 kernel version is there any drAWBACKS
[12:03] <labeeb32> maddawg3
[12:05] <jellow> santhosh, 3.13.0-27-generic as far as I know, no reason to expect problems
[12:05] <NK`_> how long before the ubuntu openssl release ?
[12:06] <NK`_> anyone have information about that ?
[12:08] <Eeinn> I have a quick question. How can I monitor firewall information gui'ly in ubuntu? :)
[12:10] <philinux> Eeinn;~ app gufw from software center
[12:11] <Eeinn> Thanks philinux :)
[12:12] <mashu> hey, i installed the gnome3 desktop environment on ubuntu to test it out ... for some reason ... now whenever turn my computer on it doesnt ask for a password despite the settings asking it to do so ... whats happening?
[12:13] <jellow> NK`_, all information can be found through apt-get command, apt-get changelog openssl ( unless you have a specific question? )
[12:13] <NK`_> yes
[12:13] <NK`_> http://ccsinjection.lepidum.co.jp/
[12:14] <NK`_> I'm wondering about when the openssl1.0.1g will be release in ubuntu repository
 in lubuntu 13.10 kernel version is 3.8 but lubuntu 14.04 kernel version is 3.1 it is decresing order in that case iam asking
[12:15] <moarrr_bitcoinz> urgh
[12:15] <moarrr_bitcoinz> this unbuntu interface is confusing as hell
[12:15] <moarrr_bitcoinz> how do i get to the menu of my app?
[12:15] <llutz> NK`_: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[12:15] <moarrr_bitcoinz> can i please just have the menu of my APP on the ACTUAL APP?
[12:15] <moarrr_bitcoinz> like windows
[12:15] <moarrr_bitcoinz> this is pissing me off
[12:16] <SirLagz> moarrr_bitcoinz: don't use Unity ?
[12:16] <NK`_> llutz: that is the fix for the heartbleed bug that's been release in april
[12:17] <NK`_> I'm wondering about the flaw published today
[12:17] <NK`_> http://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_20140605.txt
[12:18] <enleeten> anyone know when ubuntu's going to have the new ssl vuln patched?
[12:18] <enleeten> is it waiting for upstream debian or something like that?
[12:18] <llutz> NK`_: try being less vague next time you ask something
[12:19] <maddawg3> does anyone on here use Etherape?
[12:19] <NK`_> 14:12:31 < NK`_> I'm wondering about when the openssl1.0.1g will be release in ubuntu repository
[12:19] <NK`_> llutz: how more explicit can it be ?
[12:19] <maddawg3> i'm having an interesting issue with running it as root...  actually any program i have on my computer that requires root i am having issues with
[12:20] <llutz> NK`_: 14:05 < NK`_> how long before the ubuntu openssl release ?
[12:20] <mguy> maddawg3: what's the issue
[12:20] <NK`_> that's my first sentence i got more precise after that
[12:20] <maddawg3> any program that has a GUI that is...  it seems when i click on "Etherape (Run as Root)" it looks like it is about to run but nothing comes up
[12:21] <maddawg3> funny thing is mguy if i enable root login (I know it's not suggested which is why i want to fix it) I can launch it fine
[12:21] <moarrr_bitcoinz> ok
[12:21] <moarrr_bitcoinz> i cant figure this out
[12:21] <moarrr_bitcoinz> How do i get the menu of this program?
[12:21] <moarrr_bitcoinz> please someone help me
[12:22] <moarrr_bitcoinz> why does the alt key not work?
[12:22] <mguy> maddawg3: does the luanch script use gksudo
[12:22] <maddawg3> mguy.. not sure...
[12:22] <maddawg3> how do i find out?
[12:22] <moarrr_bitcoinz> cans omeone please help me?!
[12:22] <moarrr_bitcoinz> this is really simple
[12:22] <mguy> You said you are starting it with a link, what does it actually do
[12:23] <maddawg3> it prompts for root password then i enter it then nothing opens
[12:23] <maddawg3> it's an icon in my launcher i installed it from the ubuntu software center thingy mahoo
[12:23] <moarrr_bitcoinz> hello???
[12:24] <maddawg3> it requires root to scan
it isd keyring problem
[12:24] <maddawg3> i'm sorry?
[12:24] <maddawg3> what did you say about my mom?
[12:24] <maddawg3> :-P
[12:24] <maddawg3> santhosh: what is an isd keyring... not familiar with that lolz
[12:24] <santhosh> in lubuntu /ubuntu keyring software it is always password
[12:25] <mguy> moarrr_bitcoinz: did you search for 'remove global menubar'
[12:25] <llutz> moarrr_bitcoinz: you deactivate global menu in systemsettings - Appearance panel
[12:25] <jellow> moarrr_bitcoinz, I do not use unity, from memory unity uses global menu so application menus are in the top panel
[12:25] <santhosh> keyring multple password asking tool
[12:25] <maddawg3> santhosh: what?
[12:25] <philinux> maddawg;~ if etherape is a gui tool then from terminal gksu etherape
[12:26] <santhosh> swhat os did u use
[12:26] <maddawg3> philinux: already did
[12:26] <maddawg3> same issue... it's an issue with EVERY program that requires root
[12:26] <maddawg3> like gparted too
[12:26] <moarrr_bitcoinz> jellow: i cant find the menu i need
[12:26] <moarrr_bitcoinz> llutz: thx
[12:26] <Guest48378> NK`_, I got a mail form Debian's security mailing list half an hour before, that it's fixed in their area (Debian). - Likely within the next 24 hours it will come upstream to the Ubuntu repos. - But don't shoot me, if not ...
[12:26] <mguy> maddawg3: what version are you on
[12:27] <philinux> maddawg;~ have you tweaked something to do with sudo
[12:27] <moarrr_bitcoinz> also
[12:27] <santhosh> sorry i don,t know phlinux and iam telling lubuntui
[12:27] <moarrr_bitcoinz> my system seems to stop responding alot and is very slow
[12:27] <moarrr_bitcoinz> does anyone know why this is?
[12:27] <moarrr_bitcoinz> it cant halt for up to 20 seconds a t time
[12:27] <SirLagz> moarrr_bitcoinz: how old is the system ?
[12:27] <mguy> maddawg3: and are you using the launcher or terminal to run your command
[12:28] <santhosh> remove /tmp files and c;lear the browsing history to improve the pewrformance
[12:28] <maddawg3> mguy i've tried both here's the terminal output
[12:28] <mguy> moarrr_bitcoinz: is there anything in your log files that looks related to the pauses
[12:28] <maddawg3> (etherape:28525): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :1
[12:28] <moarrr_bitcoinz> SirFunk: I installed it yesterday
[12:28] <maddawg3> oh wait a minute hold my horses
[12:28] <walls>  windows is the best OS in the world, friends :)
 safe, reliable, fast.
 I have windows 98 is not used by hackers
[12:28] <maddawg3> i'm gonna kick myself in the head if this was the issue the whole time
[12:29] <SirLagz> maddawg3: what was the issue ?
[12:29] <maddawg3> SirLagz: nvm it wasnt that
[12:29] <moarrr_bitcoinz> i just did what you said llutz and now i have no menus at all
[12:29] <maddawg3> i thought i was using the wrong password but i wasnt
[12:29] <maddawg3> lmao
[12:29] <moarrr_bitcoinz> wtf are my menus ?!
[12:30] <mguy> moarrr_bitcoinz: why don't you just run lxde or mate or something
[12:31] <maddawg3> interestingly i get the "(etherape:28525): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: 1" output with every program i try to run with gksudo
[12:31] <moarrr_bitcoinz> i donno, nothing seems to be working here
[12:31] <SirLagz> moarrr_bitcoinz: use Xubuntu or Lubuntu if you want a more "classic" feel
[12:31] <moarrr_bitcoinz> how do i change this?
[12:31] <moarrr_bitcoinz> can i use kde?
[12:32] <SirLagz> moarrr_bitcoinz: sure. apt-get install kubuntu-desktop-environment IIRC
[12:32] <SirLagz> I don't have my *buntu box handy at the moment so can't check
[12:32] <llutz> maddawg3: "ls -1 /tmp/.X11-unix | wc -l"
[12:32] <moarrr_bitcoinz> and what is up with this? why does ALT not activate the menus?
[12:32] <moarrr_bitcoinz> if i wanted to goto file menu, and F was underlined
[12:32] <moarrr_bitcoinz> what key do i hit?
[12:32] <NK`_> Guest48378: thx
[12:32] <moarrr_bitcoinz> in windows is alt-f
[12:33] <Guest48378> NK`_, you're welcome.
[12:33] <moarrr_bitcoinz> urgh my entire top menu bar isnt working now
[12:33] <maddawg3> llutz: i get a return value of "4"
[12:34] <SirLagz> moarrr_bitcoinz: if you're having so many issues, might as well just start afresh with Xubuntu/Lubuntu/Kubuntu if you don't like the default Unity interface
[12:35] <mguy> And quit expecting things to work like Windows
[12:37] <bobharry> Can anyone find a fix? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7594137/.
[12:37] <bobharry> ._.
[12:38] <llutz> bobharry: ls -ld /var/run
[12:38] <mguy> bobharry: you're running as root, and using sudo?
[12:38] <bobharry> Root
[12:38] <bobharry> And yeah i use sudo
[12:38] <bobharry> lluts its doing nothing
[12:38] <llutz> bobharry: sudo ln -s /run /var/run
[12:39] <llutz> bobharry: then try again without sudo
[12:39] <llutz> as root
[12:39] <llutz> bobharry:no need using sudo as root
[12:40] <bobharry> llutz: I ran it but then it makes a space.
[12:40] <bobharry> Heres the pic of it http://prntscr.com/3pvgyx
[12:40] <llutz> bobharry: it does what?
[12:41] <jellow> could also be a permission issue ( ls -l /var/run/utmp )  it should be -rw-rw-r--
[12:41] <llutz> jellow: he#s missing the symling /run -> /var/run
[12:41] <llutz> symlink
[12:42] <llutz> bobharry: it doesn't return to prompt?
[12:42] <bobharry> Nope
[12:42] <bobharry> Im running it on putty
[12:43] <llutz> bobharry: press ctrl-c, "ls -ld /run"
[12:44] <bag_> bag3960
[12:44] <bobharry> root@playmcpe:~# ls -ld /run drwxr-xr-x 22 root root 4096 Jun  5 16:45 /run
[12:45] <llutz> bobharry: exit root-shell, as user "sudo ln -s /run /var/run"
[12:45] <bobharry> Wait how do I check what usernames are on the system?
[12:45] <bobharry> I can't remeber any xD
[12:45] <llutz> bobharry: getent passwd
[12:45] <hp_> はい
[12:46] <bobharry> software caused program abort
[12:46] <llutz> bobharry: you can't remember? so you ssh in as root? stupid idea
[12:46] <bobharry> xD
[12:46] <cfhowlett> !cn|hp_
[12:46] <bobharry> Great... cant connect to putty now
[12:47] <bobharry> Im back in
[12:47] <bobharry> Ok one sec
[12:48] <hp_> hello
[12:48] <hp_> why so many people is here?
[12:49] <hp_> who is craker?
[12:49] <KGM70> !kr | hp
[12:49] <llutz> hp_:  Do you have any ubuntu support related question?
[12:49] <cfhowlett> hp_ ask your ubuntu questions.
[12:49] <cfhowlett> !topic > hp_
[12:49] <hp_> ?
[12:50] <bezaban> hp_: welcome to IRC.  You will find that many people leave their clients online even though they are not here or actively talking.  Freenode is probably not the right network for cracking related issues, and please stay on topic in channels that are dedicated to a specific topic (in this case ubuntu)
[12:50] <bobharry> Ok im logged in as user now
[12:50] <bobharry> What now?
[12:51] <hp_> はんですか?
[12:51] <bobharry> llutz: playmcpe@playmcpe:~$ sudo ln -s /run /var/run [sudo] password for playmcpe: ln: failed to create symbolic link `/var/run/run': File exists
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> !jp | hp_
[12:51] <hp_> ??????
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> hp_: english only here mate
[12:52] <cfhowlett> hp_ this channel is English only
[12:52] <llutz> bobharry:  as user "sudo ln -s /run /var/"
[12:52] <KGM70> lotuspsychje, nope it's korea but there's no info for it
[12:52] <santhosh> sudo ln -s /run /var/run where is the destination file(linked file)
[12:52] <bobharry> playmcpe@playmcpe:~$ sudo ln -s /run /var/ ln: failed to create symbolic link `/var/run': File exists
[12:52] <bag3960> hello i ahve been trying to install reaver on ubuntu can anyone please help
[12:53] <llutz> bobharry: ls -ld /var/run
[12:53] <hp_> KGM70 あの。…どなた…
[12:53] <bobharry> playmcpe@playmcpe:~$ ls -ld /var/run lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Jun  2 21:32 /var/run -> /run playmcpe@playmcpe:~$
[12:53] <cfhowlett> hp_ stop that.
[12:53] <KGM70> !kr | hp_
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> !kor
[12:53] <cfhowlett> !korean
[12:54] <bobharry> whats !kr?
[12:54] <KGM70> nope no info\
[12:54] <bobharry> Oh xD
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: tnx :p
[12:54] <KGM70> bobharry, Korea
[12:54] <llutz> bobharry: so one of the previous attempts already created it. "sudo service mysql start"
[12:54] <maddawg3> haha... figured it out
[12:54] <bag3960> guys please can you help me solve this problem
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> bag3960: ask away mate
[12:55] <cfhowlett> !ask|bag3960
[12:55] <maddawg3> if i turn off Xserver access control i can run my apps as root properly
[12:55] <bobharry> playmcpe@playmcpe:~$ sudo service mysql start mysql start/running, process 9671
[12:55] <bag3960> i am trying to install reaver and i am geting this msg:Reading package lists... Done
[12:55] <bag3960> Building dependency tree
[12:55] <bag3960> Reading state information... Done
[12:55] <bag3960> reaver:i386 is already the newest version.
[12:55] <bag3960> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[12:55] <bag3960>   wireless-tools:i386 libiw30:i386
[12:55] <unopaste> bag3960 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[12:56] <bezaban> maddawg3: xhost +SI:localuser:root to allow, but it is not really recommended, instead give your user/program access to the resources it needs or use alternative modes for privilege escalation
[12:56] <bobharry> llutz: playmcpe@playmcpe:~$ sudo service mysql start mysql start/running, process 9671
[12:56] <ubtest> dsfg
[12:57] <llutz> bobharry:yes, running. wasn't that your issue?
[12:57] <maddawg3> bezaban huh?
[12:57] <Locolino> Hello guys, i have a 5 year old samsung notebook and finally installed ubuntu 12.04ts first time
[12:57] <bobharry> But its giving errors so it might not work. Because at forums.playmcpe.com It says mysql isnt installed
[12:57] <Guest48378> NK`_, just got an OpenSSL update (openssl (1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.2) trusty-security; urgency=medium) => http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2232-1/
[12:57] <maddawg3> some programs can only be ran as root... like gparted
[12:58] <llutz> bobharry: what error?
[12:58] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Locolino
[12:58] <bobharry> llutz: the error in http://paste.ubuntu.com/7594137/.
[12:58] <Locolino> now i have 2 problems: 1st: my display is much darker then it was before on windows 7 .... 2: when i start the fullscreen mode on youtube the temperature will increase that much that it will shut don
[12:58] <maddawg3> bag3960 cuz you already have the latest version installed
[12:58] <NK`_> bobharry: what's your output for "mount|grep /run" ?
[12:59] <maddawg3> reaver:i386 is already the newest version
[12:59] <Locolino> my notebook is really much faster with ubuntu then windows, but if it breaks by watching fullscreen videos on youtube i wont use it
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> Locolino: did you check your additional drivers list for graphics drivers?
[12:59] <maddawg3> well i can say fullscreen video works on my laptop
[12:59] <maddawg3> however not my server, cuz it's a vmware guest
[12:59] <Locolino> yes but there are no additional drivers
[12:59] <bezaban> maddawg3: did you try running it with sudo? Also, better than disabling the access control you can allow access for user root with xhost +SI:localuser:root
[12:59] <bobharry> llutz: The required PHP extension MySQLi could not be found.
[12:59] <llutz> bobharry: mysql is running now, so why would you want to remove/install that
[12:59] <bobharry> Mysql isnt installed then.
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> Locolino: can you pastebin output of lshw -C video
[13:00] <NK`_> Guest48378: got it, it's upgrading
[13:00] <llutz> bobharry: instal it then
[13:00] <NK`_> that's good
[13:00] <NK`_> :)
[13:00] <f0x_> Dear all, i have a question about Ubuntu MAAS this is the right section ?
[13:00] <maddawg3> bezaban you mean gksudo?
[13:00] <bobharry> llutz: But how...
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> !maas | f0x_
[13:01] <maddawg3> it's a gui program i am trying to run
[13:01] <cfhowlett> !maas
[13:01] <maddawg3> gksudo gparted
[13:01] <cfhowlett> !info maas
[13:01] <maddawg3> or gksudo etherape
[13:01] <bag3960> i have been trying to install reaver here on ubuntu and this the message i get : bag@bag-TravelMate-6292:~$ sudo apt-get install reaver Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree       Reading state information... Donereaver:i386 is already the newest version.The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:wireless-tools:i386 libiw30:i386 Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to
[13:01] <bag3960> remove and 66 not upgraded.
[13:01] <bag3960>  
[13:01] <f0x_> Yes, but i have some questions about it, and i cant find it on the docs
[13:01] <bezaban> maddawg3: either.
[13:01] <bobharry> llutz: How would i install it then?
[13:01] <maddawg3> what exactly does  xhost +SI:localuser:root do ?
[13:02] <bag3960> and now i do not know what to do
[13:02] <cfhowlett> f0x_ could be that #ubuntu-server might be better quipped to respond, but ask
[13:02] <maddawg3> will that apply to all the users on my computer?
[13:02] <NK`_> bobharry: do you have the "php5-mysql" package ?
[13:02] <bobharry> no
[13:02] <bezaban> maddawg3: it allows access to the x server for the local user root, rather than everyone which is what I assume happens when it is disabled :)
[13:02] <NK`_> bobharry: you might want to install it then
[13:02] <bobharry> Oh xD
[13:02] <themhz> how can i restart unity desctop on my 12.04?
[13:03] <maddawg3> bezaban, local user root? i'm confused
[13:03] <maddawg3> don't i want everyone to have access to the x server
[13:04] <bezaban> maddawg3: the local user root.  Root is just another (super)user, and local user as opposed to remote.  The x server also allows remote connections, and if you are not firewalled and access control is off that is a risk
[13:04] <santhosh> how can i restart unity desctop on my 12.04?  sudo init 6 if it is asking password ur normal users ot direct shutdown ur the root user
[13:04] <maddawg3> ok i will try your command
[13:05] <bezaban> although I don't have an ubuntu desktop to test with at the moment, so I am just going on general behaviour :/
[13:05] <maddawg3> seems to sitll work
[13:05] <maddawg3> so thats good
[13:05] <bezaban> good :) Probably better than completely disabling the access control
[13:05] <bezaban> or. it is.
[13:06] <bezaban> maddawg3: that only gives the root user on that machine access. The 'localuser' in there refers to it not being a remote user on another machine :)
[13:07] <maddawg3> ah
[13:07] <maddawg3> gotcha
[13:07] <maddawg3> so any user on this local machine
[13:07] <maddawg3> of course
[13:10] <tkkrlab-bar> uch, aaps hier
 normal users can access remote users
[13:10] <tkkrlab-bar> we gaan weer een klein drama delen van de PF
[13:10] <s1gmab3ta> hey everyone, currently my ubuntu 14.04 set up is booting to a wallpaper with no unity shell or way of launching apps.
[13:10] <s1gmab3ta> alt+f2 doesn't work
[13:10] <lotuspsychje> !nl | tkkrlab-bar
[13:10] <bezaban> Can you go directly from 12.04.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS or do you have to drop by 13.10? I thought you could do LTS -> LTS upgrades, but it doesn't seem to work.  Going through 13.10 works, but is that the best practice upgrade path? (for future reference)
[13:10] <s1gmab3ta> i can right click the deskto pand get the usual popup menu, but hardly anything in there works
[13:10] <tkkrlab-bar> whut
[13:10] <tkkrlab-bar> ?
[13:10] <lotuspsychje> tkkrlab-bar: english only here
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> s1gmab3ta: older computer?
[13:11] <llutz> bezaban: when 14.04.1 is out, you can directly upgrade from 12.04
[13:11] <s1gmab3ta> lotuspsychje,  no, brand new. my setup has been working fo rmonths
[13:11] <llutz> bezaban: until then, use do-release-upgrade -d
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> s1gmab3ta: did you update recently?
[13:12] <s1gmab3ta> i didn't do any software changes since the last reboot, maybe an apt-get upgrade?
[13:12] <bezaban> llutz: oh yes, I see.  I changed /etc/update-manager/release-upgrases prompt=normal then went ahead, then back to LTS when i hit 14.04.  Should have exactly the same effect shouldn't it? And thanks :)
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> s1gmab3ta: maybe try the recoverymode from grub/fix broken packages or failsafeX?
[13:13] <llutz> bezaban: i'd guess it does the same
[13:13] <s1gmab3ta> lotuspsychje, unfortunately recovery mode wont work for me as my monitor is one of the korean 1440p panels that requires a custom EDID to be loaded
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> s1gmab3ta: you cant enter grub by shift?
[13:14] <s1gmab3ta> i.e. recovery mode will result in a blank screen
[13:14] <s1gmab3ta> lotuspsychje, yes i can enter grub, and windows works fine
[13:14] <s1gmab3ta> lotuspsychje, it appears as if i dont' have a window manager. i'm getting all these "ubuntu has an encountered an error, report it?" messages in the top left corner, undecorated
[13:15] <lotuspsychje> s1gmab3ta: thats strange, ive had this scenario on few older machines recently
[13:15] <lotuspsychje> s1gmab3ta: clean install?
[13:15] <s1gmab3ta> originally? yes
[13:15] <s1gmab3ta> recently? no
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> s1gmab3ta: maybe try 14.04 clean to check with updates on during setup?
[13:16] <s1gmab3ta> lotuspsychje, that's a lot of work...
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> s1gmab3ta: i know, but if you cant get grub.. can you still enter a terminal?
[13:17] <Kartans> (This is the guy who/whom i want to beat up.) Is it whom or who ?
[13:17] <Locolino> hy. i run the latest version of ubuntu on a 5 year old samsung notebook, any idea for overheating problems on video fullscreen mode ... ?
[13:17] <llutz> Kartans: /j #english
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> Locolino: mention your graphics card +i915 driver loaded
[13:18] <s1gmab3ta> lotuspsychje, i can enter grub. and when in my non-functioning ubuntu desktop, i can alt+F1 into a terminal
[13:18] <s1gmab3ta> it really really appears as if just unity itself is not launching
[13:18] <s1gmab3ta> or maybe compiz
[13:18] <Locolino> hy. i run the latest version of ubuntu on a 5 year old samsung notebook, any idea for overheating problems on video fullscreen mode ... ? +i915 driver loaded
[13:18] <Locolino> ;)
[13:18] <Locolino> thanks
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> s1gmab3ta: maybe install a light window manager from terminal to fix stuff?
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> s1gmab3ta: or unity restart
[13:19] <nerium> I just removed a big file using rm -rf file.log, but the disk space remains the same
[13:19] <nerium> Why wasn't the file removed? I can't see the file if I do 'ls -lah'
[13:20] <llutz> nerium: the file-dscriptor is still opened by a process, space will be freed after the process ends
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> s1gmab3ta: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/reset-unity-and-compiz-settings-in-ubuntu-14-04/
[13:21] <nerium> llutz: That worked, thanks!
[13:21] <llutz> nerium: and don't use "rm -rf" for files
[13:22] <cuddylier> Is it normal for a HW RAID card to still be at 0% rebuilding after 10 hours? http://puu.sh/9g6w1/22dcf4201d.png Any idea on what I should do?
[13:22] <llutz> nerium: to empty a logfile while the process runs, just use " >file.log "
[13:23] <shunya_chakra> !find libz
[13:24] <s1gmab3ta> lotuspsychje, very strange, I updated my nvidia proprietary driver and it's resolved now
[13:25] <s1gmab3ta> thanks for the help anyway
[13:27] <frank_the_tank> Hi, I'm having some problems with the multistrap package, looked it up on the launchpad and the bug is already fixed and the patch is pending review, how long does it take for such a fix to be applied through the updates? Could I install the unicorn package on tahr or would that mess things up?
[13:30] <unknown11223> hi
[13:30] <unknown11223> i am unablt to search in evince
[13:32] <unknown11223> this did not happen in earlier versions of evinvce
[13:32] <lotuspsychje> !info evince | unknown11223
[13:32] <shunya_chakra> hi, I sat my brightness, and on restart it comes to default setting, How can I set it permanent...
[13:33] <shunya_chakra> means whenever i restart my brightness setting don;'t loss
[13:33] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: it will require some editing in files
[13:33] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: its very simple
[13:34] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: open a terminal
[13:34] <shunya_chakra> ok unknown11223 i'm ready :)
[13:35] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: ok  type cd /sys/class/backlight
[13:36] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: and then type ls and tell me whats there
[13:36] <bobharry> Whats wrong with this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7594854/
[13:37] <llutz> bobharry: the packagename
[13:37] <llutz> !info php5-mysql | bobharry
[13:37] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: are you still there?
[13:37] <bobharry> Yet it needs to be mysqli for my xenforo forum
[13:37] <bobharry> The required PHP extension MySQLi could not be found. Please ask your host to install this extension.
[13:38] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: ?
[13:38] <EzeQL> hi, anyone working with sublimetext3 and 14.04?
[13:38] <llutz> bobharry: nd php5-mysql brings it, php5-mysql: /usr/lib/php5/20121212/mysqli.so
[13:38] <shunya_chakra> unknown11223, sorry first i typed wrong.. command that's why i'm replying late
[13:39] <moarrr_bitcoinz> ive installed kde
[13:39] <moarrr_bitcoinz> w
[13:39] <moarrr_bitcoinz> how do i use it?
[13:39] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: be quick
[13:39] <shunya_chakra> unknown11223, it giving me acpi_video0 file
[13:39] <cuddylier> Is it normal for a HW RAID card to still be at 0% rebuilding after 10 hours?
[13:39] <bobharry> llutz: If you goto http://forums.playmcpe.com/install/index.php?install/ it gives the error though I've just done apt-get install php5-mysql
[13:39] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: good now type cd acpi_video0
[13:40] <shunya_chakra> unknown11223, 2 dir and one file
[13:40] <newbie|3> I just downloaded? a program called "manager" for accounting.  It had an unresolved and apparently unresolvable problem.  I found a solution for the dependency, but can no longer find "manager"
[13:40] <shunya_chakra> unknown11223, bl_power, type, device, power
[13:40] <str> I have a problem since I upgraded to 14.04, pidgin message notifications do not play, no sound from pidgin. Anyone else with the same problem?  How can I solve it?
[13:40] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: whats in there
[13:41] <newbie|3> Anyone wanna tell me how to find it?
[13:41] <shunya_chakra> unknown11223, some files and folder,,... i think max_brightness will be interesting?
[13:41] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: nano max_brightness
[13:41] <cfhowlett> newbie|3 downloaded from where?
[13:41] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: wahts in the file
[13:41] <shunya_chakra> unknown11223, 8
[13:41] <sgp667> hey guys I have a question is there any app in ubuntu that can pop some image or text using some key shortcut? I need to look up all lot of cheatsheets these days like for vim, tmux etc.
[13:42] <shunya_chakra> value 8
[13:42] <shunya_chakra> there
[13:42] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra:  ok good
[13:42] <newbie|3> cfhowlett:  from the repo (I'm using Ubuntu Studio 14.04)
[13:42] <shunya_chakra> unknown11223, is i need to change that value?
[13:42] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: now exit
[13:43] <shunya_chakra> unknown11223, done!
[13:43] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: and type chmod 777 brightness
[13:43] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: add sudo before
[13:43] <llutz> unknown11223: editing files in sysfs /sys makes no sense, they will be gone after reboot
[13:43] <labeeb32> so i finally figured out that its the backup gpt partition table that prevents dual boot ubuntu to find partitions on installer on already installed windows 8.1
[13:43] <unknown11223> llutz: i know that i will add in rc.local
[13:44] <llutz> unknown11223: and why would on chmod 777 files there then?
[13:44] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: what happened, u still there?
[13:44] <llutz> one*
[13:44] <labeeb32> so how should i delete that gpt backup???
[13:45] <labeeb32> bcos in installer screen it says there is no operating system detected
[13:45] <shunya_chakra> unknown11223, done
[13:45] <shunya_chakra> unknown11223, 6 is there
[13:45] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: where is 6?
[13:45] <labeeb32> but i do have windows 8.1
[13:45] <shunya_chakra> unknown11223, there is 6 inside brightness file
[13:45] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: did you do chmod 777 brightness
[13:45] <shunya_chakra> yup! unknown11223
[13:46] <CalimeroTeknik> is there anything on ubuntu server 12.04 (precise) that prevents a single process from causing a load exceeding 5?
[13:46] <MrPPS> I think I have bad lag
[13:46] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: ok great now open a terminal and type sudo gedit /etc/rc.local
[13:47] <cuddylier> Is it normal for a HW RAID card to still be at 0% rebuilding after 10 hours?
[13:47] <maddawg3> cuddylier depends what card
[13:47] <bobharry> YAY llutz thanks for helping now i can setup my forums ;D
[13:47] <shunya_chakra> unknown11223, I opened it.
[13:47] <maddawg3> also size of drive
[13:48] <cuddylier> maddawg3: How about this one? http://puu.sh/9g7XL/bb766d4cd5.png
[13:48] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: now add this line before exit0  echo 3 > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
[13:48] <cuddylier> I'm not sure if it's worth waiting any longer.
[13:48] <labeeb32> guide me anyone plz
[13:48] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: echo 3 > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
[13:49] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: and then save and exit and restart your computer to check
[13:49] <shunya_chakra> unknown11223, done!
[13:49] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: did your brightness change?
[13:49] <shunya_chakra> unknown11223,  I haven't restarted it yet.
[13:49] <shunya_chakra> is i need to restart?
[13:49] <labeeb32> the backup gpt partition table that prevents dual boot ubuntu to find partitions on installer on already installed windows 8.1
[13:50] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: go and restart now good luck
[13:50] <labeeb32> so how to remove this gpt partition table backup
[13:50] <shunya_chakra> unknown11223, Thanks so much for helping me! :)
[13:50] <labeeb32> so that ubuntu finds the uefi partition of windows and proceeds for dual booting
[13:51] <cfhowlett> labeeb32 I don't dualboot 8.1, but I have NEVER seen a recommendation to delete the backup partition.  proceed with caution
[13:51] <cfhowlett> !dualboot
[13:52] <labeeb32> ubuntu installer dont see my partitions. it just shows all my hard disk as free space
[13:52] <labeeb32> and says there is no operating system detected
[13:53] <RMYC> really quick and simple question, what does the "$" mean on the command line?
[13:54] <llutz> RMYC: usually singnals "normal user" prompt (while root has #)
[13:54] <bobharry> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[13:56] <bobharry> Anyone know the fix?
[13:57] <RMYC> I don't.
[13:57] <RMYC> I'm sorry!
[13:57] <sydney> bobharry: Sorry,a havent been here. The fix to what?
[13:58] <bobharry> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[13:58] <bobharry> Is that a ubuntu problem?
[13:58] <bobharry> Or mysql side?
[13:58] <savid> I installed fglrx via the Ubuntu proprietary drivers screen, and now my laptop won't boot. How can I undo this?
[13:58] <pavlos> bobharry, fix /etc/my.cnf
[13:58] <santhosh> no it is an mysql problem just type the command rm -rf var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock and restart the mysql service
[13:58] <bobharry> How can I do that?
[13:59] <bobharry> Is it openable by nano?
[13:59] <bobharry> Nothings in /etc/my.cnf
[14:00] <bobharry> pavlos: Its completely empty in /etc/my.cnf
[14:00] <santhosh> http://serverfault.com/questions/305053/mysqld-sock-doesnt-exist
[14:01] <bobharry> santosh: Theres nothing in it to config.
[14:01] <bobharry> santhosh: Its completely empty.
[14:01] <sydney> bobharry: Hmm
[14:02] <EzeQL> anyone working with sublimetext3 and 14.04?
[14:02] <bobharry> sydney: santhosh: http://prntscr.com/3pw3z3
[14:03] <sydney> bobharry: I am not sure how to help you.:( i am not familiar with this. :(
[14:03] <bobharry> :santhosh :sydney Found it xD
[14:04] <bobharry> root@playmcpe:~# sudo service mysql restart stop: Unknown instance:
[14:05] <bobharry> Its restarting now xd
[14:07] <alazare619> does anyone in here use caffeine in xubuntu i dont get the tray icon
[14:11] <pavlos> alazare619, https://bugs.launchpad.net/caffeine/+bug/1315127
[14:16] <nacer> hi there
[14:18] <ademone> hello guys, i have an usb stick but i can not access it
[14:19] <ademone> it is mounted on sdc
[14:19] <ademone> the gparted cant see it
[14:19] <ademone> to format it
[14:20] <ademone> i can see it from the disks application but i cant do nothing
[14:20] <ademone> any ideas?
[14:20] <matt444> Hi, when I run sshfs as a user the mounted directory is owned by root:root, any idea why?
[14:20] <newbie|4> I am trying to install an accounting software bundle.  I click to install the program called "Manager", but the installation stops quickly, telling me "manager-accounting: Depends: libmono-wcf3.0-cil (>= 2.6.3) but it is not going to be installed"
[14:21] <newbie|4> I found wcf3.0a... but that doesn't help me
[14:21] <newbie|4> Where do I find this thing and should I find it?
[14:30] <aqualight> yup
[14:31] <obochaman> y bueno entonces?
[14:31] <obochaman> no entiendo bien el funcionamiento de esto
[14:31] <obochaman> :/
[14:31] <bcvery> !es | obochaman
[14:32] <obochaman> get it :P
[14:37] <pavlos> ademone, what's the filesystem on the stick?
[14:37] <RMYC> anybody know what "/etc/hp" represents in the command line?
 i think it is printer
[14:38] <LinuxNoob89> Hi all....got a question.....Im trying to set up ftp access to a folder. When I connect as Anonymous to ftp which directory do I end up? Which config file should I edit to set it to my custom folder
[14:40] <dupingping> hi
[14:40] <dupingping> everybody.
[14:40] <dupingping> why i don't print with my printer in ubuntu12.04 lts
[14:40] <dupingping> why i don't print with my printer in ubuntu12.04 lts?
[14:41] <RMYC> hallo
[14:41] <RMYC> dupingping
[14:41] <RMYC> =D
[14:41] <dupingping> \o
[14:41] <RMYC> O/
[14:42] <Garheade> LinuxNoob89, the defautl ftp directory is /var/ftp or something like that
[14:42] <LinuxNoob89> @Garheade, thanks will check
[14:45] <cfhowlett> dupingping probably you need to configure the printer ...
[14:45] <dupingping> how to configure?
[14:45] <dupingping> umm,
[14:45] <cfhowlett> dupingping "add printer"
[14:45] <dupingping> my printer is Canon Pixma IP 1180. o/
[14:45] <dupingping> I already tried it.
[14:46] <funtable> LinuxNoob89, https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/ftp-server.html
[14:47] <LinuxNoob89> @Garheade, it wasnt there................@funtable, thanks gonna read
[14:47] <jay21> hello
[14:48] <jay21> does anyone know what apport-gtk is??
[14:48] <jay21> i get an internal error
[14:48] <jay21> /usr/share/apport-gtk
[14:50] <jay21> is there a help channel i can get info?
[14:51] <bcvery> !info apport-gtk | jay21
[14:51] <Someus> Hi. Im using Ubuntu 14.04. IM trying to install AMD proprietary drivers for graphics card. How do i add fglrx repository?
[14:52] <jay21> well ok what can i do abot the internal error
[14:52] <LinuxNoob89> @funtable, thanks found it on the page and confirmed on my system ....the default ftp directory is /srv/ftp
[14:52] <funtable> LinuxNoob89, nice =)
[14:53] <Someus> Hi. Im using Ubuntu 14.04. IM trying to install AMD proprietary drivers for graphics card. How do i add fglrx repository?
[14:53] <LinuxNoob89> Cheers guys, gotta go
[14:53] <Wulf> Hi
[14:54] <Someus> Hi. Im using Ubuntu 14.04. IM trying to install AMD proprietary drivers for graphics card. How do i add fglrx repository?
[14:54] <bcvery> !patience | Someus
[14:55] <Wulf> on my system, some things like rsyslog aren't running yet. I'm deliberately blocking another upstart job and now trying to find out how this influences rsyslog. Can I somehow see the status of upstart?
[14:57] <Someus> Help me
[14:57] <Someus> i want to install AMD proprietary driver
[14:58] <cfhowlett> Someus READ the patience message - if no one knows, no will answer
[14:58] <Someus> of course someone knows
[14:58] <cfhowlett> Someus for INSTANT help, go to Canonical paid support
[14:58] <IdleOne> if nobody who is currently active knows*
[14:58] <Someus> Active also may know
[14:59] <Someus> maybe bored to help
[14:59] <Someus> or lazy
[14:59] <cfhowlett> Someus repeatedly demanding "help me!" is unlikely to gain their interest
[14:59] <IdleOne> Did you try reading the README file you got when you download the drivers from AMD?
[14:59] <Someus> im reading this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[15:00] <IdleOne> alright, so what specifically do you need help with?
[15:00] <Someus> BUt i dont know how to add something to repository!
[15:00] <Someus> i want to add flgrx to repository
[15:00] <cfhowlett> !repo| someone
[15:00] <Someus> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer
[15:00] <Someus> HOw to add this to repository?
[15:00] <IdleOne> edit /etc/apt/sources.list or you can do it via the software center -> settings
[15:01] <cfhowlett> someone https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources
[15:01] <Someus> So should it look like this: 'deb https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer trusty main/restriced ?
[15:01] <IdleOne> looks right
[15:01] <Someus> main or restricted?
[15:02] <IdleOne> what does the wiki page say?
[15:02] <IdleOne> my guess is restricted
[15:02] <Someus> wiki say nothing
[15:03] <Someus> i dont want to mess up something
[15:03] <IdleOne> well proprietary drivers won't be in the main repository
[15:03] <Someus> ok
[15:03] <Someus> What is canonical partners repository? Drivers?
[15:04] <lykw> hello everyone, in 14.04. there is a feature at disk utility, which says,create disk image. is this feature the GUI version of dd imaging command?
[15:04] <elarson> I've been debugging my network and installed wireshark to see if there were any clues as to why I was having connection issues. after installing wireshark and configuring it to capture packets without being root, network manager (and the software update UI) are asking me for my root password.
[15:04] <ernesto_> hi! have any of you tried copy cloud service? i've just created an account, installed the GUI but cannot share other folders but the copy home...
[15:05] <elarson> I'm assuming the wireshark change is what triggered it b/c it messes with capabilities and/or policy kit
[15:05] <elarson> two things I know nothing about :(
[15:05] <Someus> I have enabled Proprietary drivers for devices ( Restricted ) but it doesn't find proprietary drivers for my graphics card
[15:05] <ernesto_> talking about https://www.copy.com
[15:06] <elarson> also, it is *not* a sudo prompt b/c my password doesn't work and it specifically says "root" in the text.
[15:06] <metallico> hi guys, $.ajax seems to be converting json data to array when sending xhr. is there a way to make it send the json as a string?
[15:06] <metallico> sorry wrong channel
[15:06] <elarson> metallico: that sounds like your server is processing the data before you see it as a string ;)
[15:07] <mrvisser> hmm, for some reason running unattended-upgrade is not pulling in the openssl fix libssl-1.0.1ubuntu5.14 . Should it be?
[15:11] <user__> When i start openvpn on my vps i get disconnected. How i can make my vps use vpn and still be able to connect to vps?
[15:11] <Someus> Hi. Why I dont find Proprietary driver for graphics card in Additional Drivers update section?
[15:13] <TJ-> user__: sounds like you've configured openvpn to take over the default route
[15:13] <Someus> Hi. Why I dont find Proprietary driver for graphics card in Additional Drivers update section?
[15:13] <Someus> I dont understand
[15:14] <Someus> What exactly i need to do?
[15:15] <user__> yes, TJ can you point me to the right direction ? I use google, but most results its to complicated ...
[15:15] <cobalt237> I ran system updates on my laptop yesterday running 12.04 and now DNS isn't working
[15:16] <cobalt237> Is there a good guide for debugging this or any tips?
[15:16] <Someus> Hi. Why I dont find Proprietary driver for graphics card in Additional Drivers update section? What should i do?
[15:16] <cobalt237> If I enter the IP addresses manually I can ping, so it does seem to be a problem with DNS itself
[15:17] <TJ-> user__: you'd need to check the logs when the VPN connection is established, see if the route is being changed. "/var/log/syslog" should help you there
[15:17] <testdr> cobalt237: last update 12.04 with a new kernel did not change my dns-settings -- pls. more infos, networksetting/config
[15:18] <cobalt237> testdr: what in particular?
[15:18] <testdr> cobalt237: does your network-config get dns-settings per dhcp or what is set up
[15:18] <Someus> Can someone help me please?
[15:18] <bala> what is called dns server
[15:19] <bala> what someus?
[15:19] <testdr> bala: dns = domain name service server
[15:19] <cobalt237> testdr: I don't know
[15:19] <bala> what is work was ? testdr
[15:19] <user__> ok
[15:20] <testdr> cobalt237: system-settings, network-configuration, ip4 .. or do you use ip6?
[15:20] <bala> can you explain
[15:20] <CasaViva> hello all, Q: how to remove a service from boot?
[15:20] <cobalt237> testdr: I use what is installed by default, I guess.  How would I check that?
[15:21] <Someus> HELP ME!
[15:21] <Someus> HEEELP!
[15:21] <testdr> cobalt237: systemconfiguration --> and there the network-icon ..
[15:22] <Someus> Help Please!
[15:22] <waykool99> ip6 is now online? couple months ago i heard there were security issues.
[15:22] <Someus> Why i dont see proprietary drivers in Additional drivers tab?
[15:23] <user__> well, i see that vpn change route, but have no clue what todo
[15:23] <cfhowlett> !patience|Someus
[15:23] <Someus> im ignored
[15:23] <Someus> :)
[15:23] <cfhowlett> Someus bad attitude towards the volunteers will do that
[15:23] <Someus> cfhowlett and you don't know the answer?
[15:24] <cobalt237> testdr: like network under system settings?  I see a wired connection, but don't see any relevant information besides IP address, subnet mask, route, and DNS (75.75.75.75.75.76.76)
[15:24] <Someus> I don't care that
[15:24] <Someus> i know im good guy
[15:24] <Someus> Jesus loves me that's most important
[15:24] <cfhowlett> !attitude
[15:24] <Someus> Here are 1000 people and everyone is offline?
[15:24] <Someus> dont show me guidelines please
[15:24] <testdr> cobalt237: this DNS(xx.xx.xx.xx.xx....) is not a valid ip-address
[15:25] <Lucax> good morning, day, afternoon evening or goodnight to you all ubuntees
[15:25] <Someus> Lucax can you help me?
[15:25] <cobalt237> testdr: I agree
[15:25] <Mattias> People will answer if they have an answer to the question and if they feel like answering. Just because they don't write doesn't mean they're offline.
[15:25] <Someus> Can someone talk to me in PM?
[15:25] <Lucax> I recently installed ubuntu gnome and my backupthing is nor working, anyone?
[15:26] <Someus> Mattias i don't believe 1000 people dont know solution for me
[15:26] <testdr> cobalt237: if you know your dns-server - maybe the dial-in-router? something like 192.168.0.1 ?? you can correct it manually ... but why do you not know if you used dhcp to set those things automatically
[15:26] <bala> ya i will someus
[15:26] <user__> exir
[15:26] <CasaViva> hello all, Q: how to remove a service from boot?
[15:26] <shaddowed> when will nvidia 337 hit the main repo? xorg-edgers tends to be unstable
[15:26] <bala> i dont know  casaviva
[15:27] <cobalt237> testdr: why would I know?  I assumed it used dhcp because I haven't changed any settings and just plugged the ethernet cable into the back of the system
[15:27] <testdr> cobalt237: you can use a free available dns-server like the google one: 8.8.8.8
[15:27] <Someus> OK
[15:27] <Mattias> Someus: What is the problem? Symptoms? Generic questions like "Why won't this thing show for me?" is hard to answer.
[15:27] <Someus> Mattias
[15:27] <cobalt237> testdr: how do I set the dns endpoint manually?
[15:27] <llutz> CasaViva: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting
[15:27] <cobalt237> resolv.conf?
[15:27] <Someus> i don't know why i dont see proprietary drivers in Additional drivers list!
[15:27] <Someus> CAn you help me add repositories?
[15:27] <Someus> or what i need to do?
[15:27] <testdr> cobalt237: you can setup for dhcp again and specify the dns-server ip and try the google-dns-server
[15:28] <Someus> I have Ati X1200 graphics card
[15:28] <Someus> i need to install fxglr i guess
[15:28] <waykool99> 2 days ago, i asked a question, saved to Gedit chat.txt.  forgot to save to usb thumb. me dummy. formatted drive. what is the apt-get command to add the Gnome GUI to ubuntu studio v14.04 LTS 64 bit, please?
[15:28] <llutz> cobalt237: add "nameserver x.x.x.x" to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head and run "sudo resolvconf -u" then
[15:28] <Mattias> Someus: google knows the answer, ask what you asked us on google. and add "in ubuntu" or something
[15:28] <Someus> Mattias i tried
[15:29] <Macer> hm
[15:29] <digilord> Is there a way in 14.04 to make it so that the menu items for a window don't auto hide? That is annoying
[15:29] <Someus> Mattias i got this good website: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[15:29] <Macer> spaces is a bit messed up. or compiz
[15:29] <testdr> cobalt237:  it happened 2 times in a few years for me, that my internet-provide crashed his dns-service -- and then i had to manually chose another one
[15:29] <Macer> when i move windows between the spaces compiz crashes/freezes
[15:29] <shaddowed> digilord: +1
[15:29] <skinux> Is JACK audio a replacement for ALSA/OSS or just extensions/additional tools?
[15:29] <Someus> But i didnt got guide there how to add fxglr repository
[15:29] <skinux> ** replacement for ALSA/OSS/PULSE?
[15:29] <Mattias> Someus: Do you know how to use a terminal?
[15:30] <Someus> yes
[15:30] <Someus> Ctrl + Alt + T :)
[15:30] <Mattias> Someus: do you know how to install packages with apt-get?
[15:30] <Someus> Mattias i could learn that.
[15:30] <Someus> yeah i know
[15:31] <Mattias> Someus: in terminal: sudo apt-get install fglrx-installer   I'm on archlinux at home right now so I can't verify that is the actual name of the package, but try that first.
[15:31] <cobalt237> testdr: there's an "autogenerated" warning in that file and when I run the resolvconf command it says "Error: /etc/resolv.conf isn't a symlink, not doing anything"
[15:31] <staya> I've been looking for a modern XFCE4 theme for a bit now and haven't found much, any suggestions?
[15:31] <Mattias> Someus: might be just "fglrx" without the -installer part
[15:32] <Someus> ok it works
[15:32] <Someus> but i wonder why i didnt have that driver in Additional drivers list
[15:32] <Mattias> Someus: actually, if you continue reading the 2.1 section, all the instructions for how to install is there step by step, including the fglrx install command
[15:32] <shaddowed> staya: shimmer-themes
[15:32] <Mattias> on that site you posted
[15:33] <Someus> Mattias but i wanted to go for easiest way
[15:33] <Someus> wasnt so sure about that
[15:33] <waykool99> try going into Synaptic. type in keywords: ati, amd, fglrx etc.
[15:33] <Someus> GUI way!
[15:33] <Mattias> Someus: command line is the only thing I use, sorry :) most of the time command line is faster and easier
[15:33] <Someus> ok
[15:34] <waykool99> could try apt-get install fglrx, see if it suggests others.
[15:34] <Someus> But i have problem
[15:34] <emil_stdio> I am getting an error on a setup asking me to run dmesg, but it is empty.  after unsuccessful search I tried sudo service dmesg status and got dmesg: unrecognized service.  how do I run it as a service?
[15:34] <shaddowed> why not use xserver-xorg-video-ati?
[15:35] <Guest48378> CasaViva, try this => https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootServices => additionally => read "man update-rc.d" => more general => https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+14.04+deactivate+system+services+on+boot
[15:35] <Someus> shaddowed because i think i need proprietary driver for Arcane Legends game to work
[15:39] <cobalt237> testdr: I can set the DNS endpoint to 8.8.8.8 in the wired connection interface (where it pulls only "addresses" from DHCP)
[15:39] <testdr> cobalt237: and if you set the dns-address manuall, does it work?
[15:39] <cobalt237> that gives me a valid IP in the network display and I see 8.8.8.8 as the endpoint, but still can't resolve domain names
[15:40] <waykool99> is your PC behind a router? if yes, try your routers gateway IP.
[15:40] <Lucax> what is the name of the backup program in gnome?
[15:40] <Lucax> is it s3?
[15:41] <Lucax> it's icon is a safe
[15:41] <ubuntu1> hi
[15:41] <ubuntu1> i have ubuntu 12.10
[15:41] <thaliz> Hi, I need help with LTSP installed through edubuntu out of the box. so much lag on thin 3 thin client  -server is amd phenom2 x6cores 6gb ram netgear gigabit
[15:41] <ubuntu1> but my webcam not recognized
[15:41] <ubuntu1> for my project in c++ opencv
[15:41] <ubuntu1> what should i do?
[15:42] <Lucax> I am gettting an error for the program does backups in gnome, it says: no connection to backend, can somebody help?
[15:42] <ubuntu1> nobody khow?
[15:42] <ubuntu1> khnow *?
[15:42] <ubuntu1> :|||||||||||||||||||||\
[15:42] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu1, 12.10 is end of life not supported
[15:42] <waykool99> is your webcam USB?
[15:43] <ubuntu1> ubuntu 12.10 on VM
[15:43] <cobalt237> waykool: if I set it to my router's IP I still don't get a connection
[15:43] <ubuntu1> my webcam work in win 7
[15:43] <ubuntu1> but in ubuntu not working
[15:43] <ubuntu1> :|
[15:43] <wilee-nilee> !12.10 | ubuntu1
[15:43] <digilord> shaddowed: I found it finally. Here is a link on how to get your menu to not disappear. http://goo.gl/gta7bo
[15:44] <testdr> cobalt237: do you have: nslookup              test it in a terminal?
[15:44] <waykool99> most consumer routers use gateway as your login and as its own DNS Server IP address.
[15:44] <ubuntu1> what can i do for DL webcam driver ?
[15:44] <cobalt237> Yeah, I was doing nslookup on yahoo.com
[15:44] <ubuntu1> my net is slow speed :(
[15:44] <cobalt237> looks like it's timing out
[15:44] <Greek-Boy> I did sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade from the command line and got some erros and segmentation faults. Now apt says segmentation fault tree. :-(
[15:45] <testdr> cobalt237: you used nslookup to lookup a name with the default dns-server? ...
[15:45] <ubuntu1> ?? :???
[15:45] <ubuntu1> :my god :(
[15:46] <cobalt237> testdr: Yes, like "nslookup yahoo.com"
[15:46] <cfhowlett> ubuntu1 12.10 no longer supported
[15:46] <cobalt237> it says the connection timed out and no servers could be reached
[15:46] <waykool99> go to Terminal. type 'ifconfig -h' and 'netstat --help'
[15:46] <XPS1105> cfhowlett what support?
[15:46] <chris73_rm> ciao a tutti
[15:46] <testdr> cobalt237: and it spit out something like:  98.138.253.109
[15:46] <ubuntu1> what i do?
[15:47] <XPS1105> ubuntu1 support ?
[15:47] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | ubuntu1
[15:47] <shaddowed> digilord: well that disables global menu all together, which is fine on large desktop monitor, but on my lappy i enjoy having more screen space
[15:47] <waykool99> netstat -Wn is a lot like netstat -ano in windows a few years ago.
[15:47] <wilee-nilee> XPS1105, channel policy is not supporting eol's
[15:47] <cobalt237> testdr: no, it timed out, ";; connection timed out; no servers could be reached"
[15:47] <phunyguy> errr
[15:48] <ubuntu1> isnt any way that i install driver for webcam ?
[15:48] <Under-C-Capt> I have a bit of an issue...won't auto connect to wireless after suspend...there was a previously answered question like this in the forums but this is a bit daunting for me here...Ubuntu 12.04 LTS w/ Unity desktop
[15:48] <Macer> does cssm not work in ubuntu?
[15:48] <CasaViva> thanks Guest48378
[15:48] <phunyguy> wilee-nilee, we are allowed to help with the upgrade.
[15:48] <testdr> cobalt237: use nslookup and specify the dns-server-address -- after start of nslookup type: www.google.com    8.8.8.8
[15:48] <wilee-nilee> phunyguy, No really, lol.
[15:48] <phunyguy> wilee-nilee, just making sure that is clear...
[15:48] <wilee-nilee> phunyguy, I have been here for years. ;)
[15:49] <phunyguy> "wilee-nilee> XPS1105, channel policy is not supporting eol's"
[15:49] <ubuntu1> can U explain exactly to what i do? :||||||||||||
[15:49] <phunyguy> that's only half true.
[15:49] <cobalt237> testdr: that seems to output what I'd expect -- a list of google IP addresses
[15:49] <cfhowlett> ubuntu1 your running an unsupported system - NO security upgrades.  Time to install a supported OS - 14.04 is current.  THEN worry about your webcam
[15:49] <phunyguy> 1.) it is not a policy, 2.) we need to be as helpful as possible.
[15:49] <wilee-nilee> phunyguy, in your mind, look at there question of another user here.
[15:50] <wilee-nilee> phunyguy, And by the way do not harass me.
[15:50] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade|ubuntu1 this is how
[15:50] <CREEEPEREXPLOSIV> hi
[15:50] <testdr> cobalt237: this proves you can get a workint dns-system if you specify a working dns-server --- its not your computer (at 90% shure)
[15:50] <phunyguy> hello CREEEPEREXPLOSIV
[15:50] <CREEEPEREXPLOSIV> hello
[15:50] <nikonmx> Hi
[15:50] <phunyguy> wilee-nilee, excuse me?
[15:50] <CREEEPEREXPLOSIV> waht
[15:50] <nikonmx> Hi
[15:50] <testdr> cobalt237: after manually changing the dns-server in network-settings, did you down/up the network-interface?
[15:51] <cobalt237> testdr: It was just a guess that it was the update because I updated my laptop before going home and now it can't connect while the other two computers on ethernet still work
[15:51] <cobalt237> testdr: yes
[15:51] <phunyguy> CREEEPEREXPLOSIV, do you have a support question?
[15:51] <captain-nemo> sorry guys easier name for you here
[15:51] <XPS1105> privmsg XPS1105
[15:52] <ubuntu1> ????????????? only upgrade.................
[15:52] <testdr> cobalt237: then check the network settings of the working computers .... and try their dns-setting --- if it is set via dhcp, it could be your computer does not get a dhcp-resolv of your router
[15:52] <ubuntu1> no way with terminal?
[15:52] <ubuntu1> install driver for my ubuntu ?
[15:52] <ubuntu1> with terminal ?
[15:53] <phunyguy> ubuntu1, I don't understand what you are asking
[15:53] <cfhowlett> ubuntu1 you're running a dead and unsupported version of ubuntu.  unsupported means WE AIN'T SUPPORTING IT.  upgrade
[15:53] <testdr> cobalt237:  for a first fix you can set the network-settings manually -- only to be shure the system is working
[15:53] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu1, You could do a fresh install, 13.04 is eol, and 13.10 will be in july. The important part here is that you are aware of release and end of release dates.
[15:53] <cfhowlett> ubuntu1 running an unprotected system is ASKING for serious troubles
[15:53] <phunyguy> ubuntu1, an upgrade to 12.10 to 13.10 is possible, but I am not sure how well it works.  A fresh install would be better
[15:54] <phunyguy> upgrade from*
[15:54] <planetmaker> what's the life span of a normal release?
[15:54] <planetmaker> if 13.04 is already eol?
[15:54] <cfhowlett> planetmaker it is.  sorry.
[15:54] <ubuntu1> i cant do it ... my speed internet is alow :||||||||||
[15:54] <phunyguy> 9 months
[15:54] <phunyguy> 12.10 was the last 18 month release, which is why it went longer
[15:54] <planetmaker> aye. thanks
[15:54] <cfhowlett> ubuntu1 yes you can.  use torrent to get the ISO.
[15:54] <ubuntu1> any way else?
[15:54] <testdr> cobalt237: last -- it could be something like your router and a router-poweroff/on may fix it ..
[15:54] <wilee-nilee> planetmaker, lts 5 years, others it has depended lately, but generally 18 months.
[15:54] <phunyguy> ubuntu1, order a DVD in the mail
[15:55] <ubuntu1> can not !!!!!
[15:55] <ubuntu1> :|
[15:55] <phunyguy> ubuntu1, then I don't know what to tell you
[15:55] <ubuntu1> ok
[15:55] <ubuntu1> :|
[15:55] <cfhowlett> ubuntu1 if you've got enough internet for RIC chat, then you've enough to torrent 13.10 or 14.04
[15:55] <planetmaker> wilee-nilee, 18 months can't be true, if 13.x is already at EOL :)
[15:55] <ubuntu1> i think that with terminal i solve my problem for dl driver
[15:56] <phunyguy> cfhowlett, indeed.  ubuntu1, it may take a while, but you will get it eventually.
[15:56] <wilee-nilee> planetmaker, As I sid depends lately some were 9 months DO THE RESEARCH.
[15:56] <wilee-nilee> said
[15:56] <phunyguy> wilee-nilee, with 13.04 on up for no LTS releases, they changed it to 9 months
[15:56] <cobalt237> testdr: okay, so comparing to my other machine, it also has the dns set to "75.75.75.75   75.75.76.76", I didn't notice the space originally
[15:56] <ubuntu1> git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git uvcvideo
[15:56] <ubuntu1> Cloning into 'uvcvideo'...
[15:56] <staya> shaddowed, thanks a bunch
[15:57] <ubuntu1> does it solve my problem?
[15:57] <wilee-nilee> planetmaker, This stuff is on the web, look it up, rather than argue a moot point here.
[15:57] <ubuntu1> UVC
[15:57] <phunyguy> wilee-nilee, relax man
[15:57] <phunyguy> please
[15:57] <ubuntu1> it is Downloading .....
[15:57] <planetmaker> everything's on the web. somewhere ;)
[15:57] <planetmaker> but nvm
[15:58] <Macer> can't seem to find the option where you zoom the desktop cube out
[15:58] <Macer> :/
[15:58] <ubuntu1> git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git uvcvideo
[15:58] <ubuntu1> Cloning into 'uvcvideo'...
[15:58] <wilee-nilee> planetmaker, True, I like the nick though, as an armchair astronomer.
[15:58] <ubuntu1> ?????????????????????
[15:58] <phunyguy> ubuntu1, please stop that
[15:58] <ubuntu1> what?
[15:58] <phunyguy> pasting that output to the channel
[15:58] <ubuntu1> 17%
[15:58] <phunyguy> ubuntu1, I have no idea why that is relevant to anything.
[15:58] <testdr> cobalt237: then you can try with nslookup if the comast-dns-server works .. and if so, the setting in the network-config, try first only one ip-address
[15:58] <planetmaker> my nick taken literally pays my bills ;)
[15:59] <Greek-Boy> I did sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade from the command line and got some erros and segmentation faults. Now apt says segmentation fault tree. I search online and the advice I gathered is to do sudo rm /var/cache/apt/*.bin and then start synaptic. The thing is this, I am remotely connected to this machine through SSH command line.
[15:59] <ubuntu1> what? relevant or not?
[15:59] <phunyguy> Greek-Boy, synaptic is irrelevant there.
[15:59] <testdr> cobalt237: comcast ... dns is 75.75.75.75 for first dns-server
[15:59] <phunyguy> Greek-Boy, just do your apt-get commands after deleting the contents of that folder
[15:59] <wilee-nilee> Greek-Boy, Pastebin the the commands and all the proceeding text with errors
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[15:59] <wilee-nilee> all the*
[16:00] <phunyguy> ubuntu1, what are you talking about??
 why stop it?
[16:00] <phunyguy> ubuntu1, why are you pasting the git stuff to the channel?
[16:00] <Greek-Boy> wilee-nilee: Will paste shortly.
[16:01] <ubuntu1> what does UVC video work?
[16:01] <ubuntu1> it provide my driver for webcam or not?
[16:01] <phunyguy> ubuntu1, do you have a real support question?
[16:01] <cfhowlett> ubuntu1 try it
[16:01] <wilee-nilee> Greek-Boy, Cool just include it with your posts on the to the channel, I'm on my way out is all.
[16:01] <phunyguy> ubuntu1, that is the 2.6 kernel branch anyway
[16:01] <phunyguy> ubuntu1, pretty outdated.
[16:02] <ubuntu1> what is kenrel branch?
[16:02] <phunyguy> ubuntu1, are you still asking for support on 12.10?
[16:02] <ubuntu1> yeah
[16:02] <cfhowlett> ubuntu1 still not supported
[16:02] <ubuntu1> ubuntu 12.10
[16:02] <Macer> is there a way to zoom the desktop cube out for compiz?
[16:02] <cfhowlett> ubuntu1 still end of life
[16:02] <Macer> i keep looking for the option but the zoon only lets you increast it and not decrease it
[16:02] <phunyguy> ubuntu1, it is still not supported anymore.
[16:02] <Macer> :/
[16:03] <CREEEPEREXPLOSIV> hello
[16:03] <phunyguy> hello CREEEPEREXPLOSIV do you have a support question.
[16:03] <cobalt237> testdr: both of the 75.75.* dns IPs work for nslookup for google.com
[16:04] <CREEEPEREXPLOSIV> no
[16:04] <phunyguy> CREEEPEREXPLOSIV, then please leave this channel clear for support
[16:05] <g0bl1n> how can one check if there are other accesses to x11vnc ?
[16:05] <testdr> cobalt237: ok -- for multiple dns-server-addresses in the network-settings, they should be seperated with a komma (i m quit shure about 80%) -- you can correct it like this and try again
[16:05] <ubuntu> ok
[16:05] <ubuntu> nobody that help me?
[16:05] <cfhowlett> !ask|ubuntu
[16:05] <phunyguy> Guest34033, if you keep asking I will remove you from the channel.
[16:06] <cobalt237> testdr: that's just in the form field, it's not an input
[16:06] <phunyguy> Guest34033, either upgrade, or stop asking please.
[16:06] <cobalt237> I'm not setting 75.75.75.75 anywhere
[16:06] <Guest34033> ok
[16:06] <Guest34033> nobody know openvc here in visual stadio?
[16:07] <phunyguy> !ot | Guest34033
[16:07] <cfhowlett> Guest34033 visual studio support is in Microsoft - are you sure you're in the right channel?
[16:07] <Guest34033> ok baba
[16:07] <Guest34033> :|
[16:08] <Guest34033> i not upgrade my ubuntu :|
[16:08] <testdr> cobalt237: sorry, then i am off -- it looks like i have a different ubuntu-12.04 version than you ... -- i was speaking about the system-configuration for the network and there for the ip4-settings
[16:08] <Guest34033> but U not help me
[16:08] <Guest34033> only one sulution ....................
[16:08] <cfhowlett> Guest34033 you were several times how to upgrade
[16:08] <cobalt237> testdr: how do you go into it?
[16:08] <cfhowlett> *told*
[16:09] <Guest34033> its wrong !!!! U should help many solution .... not only upgrade upgrade upgrade..........
[16:09] <Guest34033> :|||||||||||||||||||
[16:09] <Aaruni> problems with fglrx and amd APU. the GUI is lost as soon as fglrx is installed. it doesn't come back after purging fglrx. help ?
[16:09] <testdr> cobalt237: system-configuration (from the menu .. or drop-down from top-bar) and then the network-icon ...
[16:09] <dusf123> !amazon
[16:09] <Aaruni> Guest34033: official support is only available for officially supported versions..
[16:09] <planetmaker> Guest34033, they *should* do nothing. They all do it voluntarily. So watch your tongue, if you expect help
[16:09] <wilee-nilee> Guest34033, A eol looses the standard ubuntu repos link.
[16:10] <dusf123> i have tried removing the amazon spam ubuntu comes bundled with using a fixbuntu.com script, it output 'enjoy your privacy' but i still receive amazon search results from the dash. how do i remove this please?
[16:10] <cobalt237> testdr: sorry, I see "system settings" and just wanted to verify.  If I go into that I see the wired info and I have an options button in the bottom right
[16:10] <XPS1105> !ubuntu
[16:10] <cfhowlett> !nounity|dusf123
[16:10] <Macer> wow.. compiz support in unity is a bit broken
[16:10] <unrsi325> Hello there. I’m posting my problem here because I don’t know where to post it. Since today I can’t access some websites (it’s not a DNS problem, I can’t ping the IP). Any idea where it could come from ?
[16:10] <Macer> cssm tends to break everything and spaces are broken :/
[16:10] <cfhowlett> or is that "no lens" ?
[16:10] <wilee-nilee> dusf123, Turn it off in privacy, that is all you had to do. ;)
[16:11] <planetmaker> unrsi325, if you can ping the IP but not the server by name, then it's exactly a DNS problem
[16:11] <planetmaker> oh... "can't"
[16:11] <unrsi325> planetmaker: I can’t ping the IP
[16:11] <unrsi325> yeah
[16:11] <wilee-nilee> dusf123, Be careful in just buying into a rhetoric and running commands.
[16:12] <Jordan_U> !adlens | dusf123
[16:12] <cobalt237> testdr: is there a current working document describing the ubuntu network configuration?  I feel like it's always changing
[16:12] <testdr> cobalt237: you can try to start it directly out of a terminal with command: nm-connection-editor
[16:12] <dusf123> wilee-nilee: then https://fixubuntu.com/, makes no sense as it says i need to run a script! thanks i will look in privacy
[16:12] <cobalt237> testdr: Is 12.04 all using resolv.conf?
[16:13] <cobalt237> *12.04+
[16:13] <testdr> cobalt237: as far as i know: yes
[16:13] <dusf123> Jordan_U: thanks for the blog entry, i think i will disable in prviacy and remove the package
[16:13]  * dusf123 applauds ubuntu support.
[16:13] <cobalt237> testdr: is that autogenerated from something?
[16:13] <Jordan_U> dusf123: You're welcome.
[16:13] <dusf123> !adlens
[16:13] <dusf123> *click*
[16:14] <dusf123> :)
[16:14] <cobalt237> testdr: "/etc/resolv.conf" specifically
[16:14] <testdr> cobalt237: depends on what happens, for example if using dhcp with the dns-server settings, then its overwritten
[16:14] <Macer> when i drag winows between spaces compiz freezes :/
[16:14] <Macer> i need to HUP compiz to get it working again
[16:15] <cobalt237> testdr: dns-server settings?
[16:15] <cobalt237> Is that when running a dns-server locally?
[16:15] <testdr> cobalt237: resolv.conf has the dns-server-settings inside, nameserver blablablab
[16:15] <cobalt237> testdr: kk, thanks for your time
[16:16] <testdr> cobalt237: cant you run the nm-connection-editor ..?
[16:16] <Macer> blah. let me try a closed video driver
[16:16] <Macer> maybe that's the problem
[16:18] <cobalt237> testdr: I will try, but I have an appt and will try later
[16:18] <cobalt237> thanks again
[16:20] <Aaruni> Repost1 : problems with fglrx and amd APU. the GUI is lost as soon as fglrx is installed. it doesn't come back after purging fglrx. help ?
[16:20] <Macer> yeah there's a problem with the desktop spaces
[16:21] <Macer> when you drag windows between the "spaces" unity/compiz freezes
[16:21] <Macer> :/
[16:21] <Macer> i can't find any information about this
[16:21] <Macer> but i am having that problem on 2 different systems
[16:23] <CREEEPEREXPLOSIV> hi
[16:33] <Macer> ok. i'm at  a loss and i guess nobody here knows why compiz freezes when dragging windows between workspaces :/
[16:33] <Macer> guess i'll try a forum
[16:34] <phunyguy> Macer, sorry we couldn't be of more help :(
[16:34] <Macer> phunyguy: yah. it seems like a huge bug.
[16:34] <Macer> i'm surprised more people haven't ran into it
[16:35] <phunyguy> It may not be that widespread.  if you mentioned it before, I apologize, what ahrdware?
[16:35] <phunyguy> hardware*
[16:35] <Macer> AMD/ATI gpus
[16:35] <Macer> but on 2 different systems
[16:35] <Macer> same problem
[16:35] <Macer> one is an AMD A10.. the other is an i5 laptop with an amd
[16:35] <Macer> er.. ati
[16:35] <phunyguy> eehh... that is part of the reason.  Linux and ATI doesn't really mix well.  The open source drivers are mediocre, and the closed source drivers aren't maintained by the linux kernel devs.
[16:36] <phunyguy> makes it REALLY tough to keep things working outside of Windows
[16:36] <RWOverdijk> Can anyone explain why file descriptors are set to 1024 by default? This has bitten me in the butt twice so far and I'm really curious.
[16:36] <Macer> i don't know tho. i refuse to believe that such a giant bug is a matter of the hw devs being lazy :)
[16:36] <Macer> phunyguy: can you try it on your system? drag windows between workspaces? :)
[16:37] <phunyguy> Macer, I wish there was more I can give on that subject, but that is a downside to Linux+ATI, and has been for a long time.  We cannot help that the hardware vendor keeps a tight lid on the proprietary driver source.
[16:37] <phunyguy> Macer, I do it on my systems all the time, but they have intel video hardware
[16:37] <Macer> blah lol
[16:37] <Macer> let me try the updates driver and see if it still breaks :/
[16:37] <Macer> that sucks
[16:37] <phunyguy> it is 100% ATI related.  I can promise that.
[16:38] <ysh> does cron use the same timezone as date command ?
[16:38] <phunyguy> ysh, cron uses whatever timezone you have set.
[16:38] <g0bl1n> how can one check if there are other accesses to x11vnc ?
[16:38] <phunyguy> date can be made to use another timezone.
[16:39] <Jordan_U> Macer: Have you filed a bug report?
[16:39] <llutz> ysh: unless you set CRON_TZ to something different, yes
[16:40] <ysh> phunyguy: so my date command output is in UTC, so cron will the same?
[16:40] <pedestri> Ubuntu desktop and server have the same kern? and same about over low-level access?
[16:40] <TJ-> Macer: which ubuntu release?
[16:41] <gewoonm> hi y'all! Anybody know how I can create virtual, encrypted volumes (like TrueCrypt), that can expand when more files are added to it?
[16:42] <phunyguy> ysh, what is the output of cat /etc/timezone?
[16:43] <daftykins> gewoonm: If you only encrypt where files are, that makes it pretty obvious that there is encrypted data in a finite range. Only full volume encryption makes sense really, what's the application? (Reason for encryption)
[16:43] <pedestri> i dont want to piss anyone off, but does powershell for windows make it as lower level acess as linuz?
[16:43] <daftykins> pedestri: ask in ##windows
[16:44] <daftykins> it is pretty powerful but it's off topic here
[16:44] <phunyguy> pedestri, probably, but that is not what this channel is for
[16:44] <daftykins> and you should know that.
[16:44] <gewoonm> daftykins: application is storing my family photos in Google Drive. I want to store them per year, so for some years I have a predefined size, but obviously for this year the volume should expand :)
[16:45] <pedestri> well im just debating on wether or not to stick with 8.1
[16:45] <pedestri> i spent 90 on it, but i like ubuntu also
[16:45] <daftykins> gewoonm: you're aware that encrypting at your end won't make them encrypted on Google's end?
[16:45] <phunyguy> pedestri, again, not the proper channel
[16:45] <garshasb> hi
[16:46] <gewoonm> daftykins: the idea was creating an encrypted volume in the Google Drive, so that it would synchronize a year as a full block of random looking data
[16:46] <TJ-> gewoonm: You could use ecryptfs, which encrypts per-file including file-names
[16:46] <banana82> HALLO
[16:46] <banana82> !LIST
[16:46] <gewoonm> TJ- that would make it easier on the syncing for Google
[16:47] <gewoonm> TJ- but wouldn't that still give Google some idea at what I'm storing?
[16:47] <gewoonm> TJ- or am I being to paranoid now ;)
[16:47] <daftykins> gewoonm: you were too paranoid from the beginning :) look into owncloud if you don't trust Google
[16:48] <phunyguy> owncloud++
[16:48] <TJ-> gewoonm: And probably really easy to achieve, since Ubuntu uses it to provide encrypted home directories already, so if you have one, your content is probably already encrypted (see "/home/.ecrypt/$USER/.Private/")
[16:48] <gewoonm> TJ- yeah, but since Google Drive is living in user space, it would see the files un-encrypted also
[16:49] <gewoonm> daftykins: well the news is that NSA is intercepting photos for facial recognition since 2011, so that's where I got my paranoia from :D:D
[16:49] <TJ-> gewoonm: Sizes will be slightly larger than the original, names are encrypted
[16:50] <TJ-> gewoonm: depends on how you configure it, and how you configure the source ecryptfs
[16:50] <daftykins> gewoonm: lol.
[16:50] <gewoonm> daftykins phunyguy owncloud is nice, but google stores 100GB on multiple servers for next to no money, I couldn't get a host to do that
[16:50] <phunyguy> gewoonm, my owncloud setup has 4TB to work with.
[16:51] <gewoonm> daftykins if you're interested: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-27663130
[16:51] <gewoonm> phunyguy but where do you host it?
[16:51] <gewoonm> phunyguy if it's in your own home, still not a good place for backups (my usecase)
[16:51] <phunyguy> gewoonm, at my house
[16:51] <phunyguy> ahh backups, yeah owncloud is never a good use case for that
[16:52] <gewoonm> phunyguy, sorry should've mentioned that
[16:52] <gewoonm> full usecase is storing my photos encrypted offshore in a really cheap way
[16:52] <gewoonm> hahaha
[16:52] <phunyguy> unless you get a VPS and put it there, but you won't get 100GB for cheap.
[16:53] <gewoonm> ecryptfs looks like the way to go then
[16:53] <gewoonm> Google offers 100GB for $2, don't think anybody can beat that
[16:54] <phunyguy> nope, but small price to pay for privacy
[16:54] <phunyguy> (or lack of)
[16:54] <Macer> well.. probably not the best thing to do
[16:54] <Macer> i installed the ati drivers from the ati website
[16:55] <Macer> instead of using hte repo ones
[16:55] <Macer> lets see if it's still broken :D
[16:55] <phunyguy> yikes :)
[16:55] <Macer> yeah... bold move
[16:55] <daftykins> Macer: please keep to as few lines as possible to avoid unnecessary unreadable channel spam
[16:55] <gewoonm> phunyguy: true, but let's see them cracking an AES-cypher
[16:56] <Macer> wow that actually worked
[16:56] <phunyguy> gewoonm, I am curious to see how all of this works for you.  Good luck
[16:56] <phunyguy> Macer, if it works, then file a bug stating that
[16:56] <gewoonm> phunyguy daftyskins TJ- thank you, I've got something to play with this weekend!
[16:56] <Macer> phunyguy: heh.. well there was another problem using the proprietary drivers was giving me.. i'm about to test that now
[16:56] <daftykins> gewoonm: good luck
[16:56] <Macer> resuming from suspend would completely freeze the laptop
[16:57] <Macer> lets see if i have that same issue
[16:57] <Greek-B0y> wilee-nilee: Sorry I didn't manage to paste those apt-get segfaults. I rebooted the machine and have now lost remote access. I guess apt-get messed something up that is critical of the boot up process. Now I am going to have to get the machine in and check it out. :-(
[16:58] <Macer> awesome.. everything works now :D
[16:58] <phunyguy> Macer, awesome!
[16:58] <phunyguy> yeah you should file a bug and notate the exact version of fglrx that works
[16:58] <Macer> and i just asked on a forum... heh... if someone replies to it i'll put my findings there
[16:58] <gewoonm> daftyskins phunyguy TJ- I'll post my progress here: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/5354846 (if you're interested) . For now, thanks again. Dinner time now :D
[16:59] <phunyguy> !bug | Macer
[16:59] <phunyguy> cya gewoonm
[17:01] <Macer> phunyguy: filing that bug requires making yet another acct for something
[17:01] <phunyguy> :(
[17:01] <phunyguy> well it is ultimately up to you, but I still think you should
[17:01] <Macer> phunyguy: someone needs to make 1 bug reporter to rule them all and 1 forum to rule them all heh
[17:02] <Macer> maybe they should all just resort to usenet again.. like before it was used for piracy :P
[17:03] <Macer> nowadays every piece of hardware and software requires making 10 accounts in various places just to do stuff like ask a question in a forum or file a bug. big reason you have people coming here asking the same questions over and over ;)
[17:03] <Macer> ah well.. thanks for the help tho... much appreciated
[17:03] <llutz> Macer: usenet still is alive and helpful, much more than most of those web-forums. just ignore the bin-hierarchy
[17:04] <Macer> llutz: yeah i'll set it up later today .. i meant to do it sooner but just hadn't gotten around to it
[17:04] <Macer> but i am happy that all that was required was an updated ati driver.. i wonder why the fglrx repo doesn't have an updated one
[17:05] <Macer> does ati not allow ubuntu to push out an update to their driver?
[17:06] <TBotNik> All: Running CLI: dmesg | grep -i 'scsi' | grep -i removable, need to parse result of:  [ 344.636679] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk, to get the "SDC" value.  Where is a good HOWTO on this, been searching 3 days for this solution.
[17:10] <Vladislav> How many commercial linux distros are there?
[17:11] <llutz> Vladislav: ask in ##linux
[17:12] <Vladislav> llutz: I can't speak there :/
[17:12] <llutz> !register | Vladislav
[17:13] <Vladislav> ubottu: Thanks!
[17:14] <moneycat_> is there a way to "alt tab" out of a program once i am running it from cli?
[17:15] <ipfaffy> moneycat_: bg?
[17:15] <FinnTheMew> moneycat_: Is it still in the console?
[17:15] <mark06> why did juju moved to github?
[17:15] <mark06> *move
[17:15] <FinnTheMew> If not, then it should be pretty easy to Alt-Tab to another window
[17:15] <moneycat_> umm... maybe i'm not explaining myself correctly
[17:15] <moneycat_> say i run a program in cli
[17:15] <moneycat_> like irssi
[17:15] <moneycat_> how do i get back to cli without closing the program and keeping it running?
[17:16] <FinnTheMew> If it's in the terminal, you have to run it through screen
[17:16] <moneycat_> what do you mean by "run it through the screen"?
[17:16] <FinnTheMew> The command "screen"
[17:16] <moneycat_> ah
[17:16] <FinnTheMew> Such as "screen bash"
[17:16] <FinnTheMew> Then, if you want to go out, press Ctrl, and then A, and then D
[17:17] <ipfaffy> if you're running a long command, I believe you can also hit ctrl + z, and then run the bg command, and it will finish processing
[17:17] <FinnTheMew> Some programs, however, have the ability to run in the background themselves
[17:17] <ipfaffy> but screen/tmux is definitely a better option
[17:17] <moneycat_> ah ok gotcha
[17:17] <moneycat_> i'll google the manuals on screen and bg
[17:18] <moneycat_> is there any other related ones i should read up on?
[17:20] <pedestri> my down arrow is broken on my laptop, i was thinking about going into keyboard and making a custom shortcut to remap the down arrow to a different key
[17:20] <pedestri> but i dont know the command
[17:25] <Flolila> hey there i have the strangest /etc/shadow/ - could somebody look into my pastebin? http://pastebin.com/jZakU154
[17:25] <Flolila> what is this root entry?
[17:26] <Flolila> i dont know anyone from hungary
[17:27] <llutz> Flolila: whats strange with that?
[17:27] <Flolila> this blabla.hu
[17:28] <llutz> Flolila: man shadow  "encrypted password"
[17:28] <Flolila> do this .hu doesnt have any meaning?
[17:28] <loa> Flolila, ahaha
[17:28] <llutz> Flolila: nope
[17:28] <loa> it is hash...
[17:28] <Flolila> puh
[17:29] <Flolila> thanks
[17:30] <Joel> as root can I load an ssh key into another users ssh-agent?
[17:31] <miraiE> I wanna ask something: anyone knows why http://ubottu/ljl/apt is forbidden?
[17:32] <miraiE> * http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt
[17:32] <planetmaker> Joel as your you can become any user, so yes, you can by becoming that user temporarily
[17:32] <llutz> miraiE: ask the webmaster of ubottu.com
[17:32] <Joel> planetmaker, "as root"
[17:33] <daftykins> miraiE: more to the point, what are you looking for?
[17:33] <planetmaker> then make it a small bash script which uses the su command and ends it, too
[17:33] <miraiE> llutz: I think they are here
[17:34] <miraiE> daftykins: that site is useful for the people here
[17:34] <miraiE> people with limited internet access
[17:34] <daftykins> miraiE: in what way? what specifically?
[17:34] <Joel> planetmaker, I think you're not following. but that's ok.
[17:34] <llutz> daftykins: it refers to !offline factoid, i guess
[17:35] <miraiE> the site is apt-web,  which is apt packages link generator
[17:36] <daftykins> miraiE: as in a search function that returns a direct URL to a .deb ?
[17:36] <miraiE> fortunately, I have downloaded the source code of that site and now, I host it in http://apt-web.tk please have a look
[17:36] <daftykins> miraiE: so you've intentionally broken copyright and reworked it for your own means?
[17:37] <miraiE> no, it's GPL
[17:37] <daftykins> miraiE: you have an email for the dev, but i haven't seen him active on Freenode for a few days... have you tried contacting?
[17:37] <miraiE> it's useful for people here mostly in my country
[17:38] <daftykins> miraiE: yes you keep repeating the same statement...
[17:38] <miraiE> daftykins: yes, I have send email to the developers a few days ago, but no reply since
[17:39] <miraiE> is it breaking the license, daftykins?
[17:39] <daftykins> miraiE: the tiscali.it address?
[17:39] <miraiE> daftykins, yes it is
[17:41] <daftykins> miraiE: i'm sorry, at first i thought you were referring to something on the main ubottu page. that part looks fine i suppose, but i have no idea why it has been blocked. however, i do know that that user has become somewhat... estranged to the ubuntu community if you understand my meaning
[17:44] <miraiE> daftykins: estranged, do you mean he goes away?
[17:44] <daftykins> yes
[17:44] <daftykins> miraiE: i see your page only offers i386 though
[17:44] <miraiE> i don't have 64bit installation
[17:46] <chaojimpe> ..
[17:46] <daftykins> miraiE: sure but you want to help others in your country right? :)
[17:48] <miraiE> daftykins: yes, i'm waiting for my friend's help for providing the databases
[17:49] <ck> cezik
[17:53] <chaojimpe__> ..
[17:59] <daum> hey guys
[17:59] <daum> anyone getting hash sum mismatches today?  W: Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty-updates_main_source_Sources  Hash Sum mismatch
[18:02] <MK`> Damn, didn't learn about Ubuntu One shutting down the file service until I got repeated messages it was failing so sync. Is there no wait to disable it trying to sync or should I just uninstall the client now?
[18:02] <poochi> can somebody tell me what CONFIG_LOCALVERSION_AUTO does ? (linux kernel)
[18:04] <llutz> poochi: http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/LOCALVERSION_AUTO.html
[18:09] <poochi> hey can you tell me what LOCALVERSION_AUTO in .config does ?
[18:10] <poochi> sorry
[18:11] <poochi> LOCALVERSION_AUTO in .config doesnt produce intended results while CONFIG_LOCALVERSION="Gowtham" in .config does  . any pointers ?
[18:11] <llutz> poochi: you may ask in ##linux
[18:12] <poochi> thanks
[18:13] <poochi> ##linux has no members
[18:13] <llutz> poochi: about 1500
[18:22] <Drewcifer> Just attempted to load a live version of Ubuntu onto a machine via a USB drive and Universal USB loader. Upon start-up it began the initialization stuff and got stuck on Call Trace: rest_init. I am a super-n00b, what should I do?
[18:26] <daftykins> Drewcifer: what kind of system? know any of its' hardware? specifically graphics
[18:30] <Drewcifer> Just attempted to load a live version of Ubuntu onto a machine via a USB drive and Universal USB loader. Upon start-up it began the initialization stuff and got stuck on Call Trace: rest_init. I am a super-n00b, what should I do?
[18:30] <daftykins> Drewcifer: i already replied to you and you have ignored it
[18:30] <daftykins> Drewcifer: what kind of system? know any of its' hardware? specifically graphics
[18:30] <Drewcifer> sorry
[18:31] <Drewcifer> got lost in the join/quit stuff
[18:31] <Drewcifer> Its an HP laptop, I had just did this yesterday with the same ISO different USB device and it loaded fine.
[18:31] <Drewcifer> I killed a machine about two months ago when I had this similar problem and I force stopped the initialization
[18:32] <daftykins> Drewcifer: so why aren't you using the known-good flash drive? what do you mean 'initialisation' ?
[18:36] <daftykins> Drewcifer: can you discover the hardware in this system?
[18:36] <daftykins> Drewcifer: or can you find the model # and find specifications online?
[18:36] <daftykins> help me... to help you :)
[18:37] <candelabra> I've got a launcher that launches version 5 of a program via program.sh, I just downloaded version 6 that includes a program.sh file.... how can i replace the launcher item? ubuntu 14.04
[18:37] <Drewcifer> Flash drive was a trial run yesterday to learn how to use Univ. USB Load. I then went out and bought a 1TB extHDD with the intentions of making it a portable OS and general storage. I am 99.9% windows and I run computationally-intensive statistical analysis software, on complex models, ram is limiting on my primary windows machine. My back-up windows machine has more ram but the process is
[18:37] <Drewcifer> maxed on complex models. I would like to run a light OS, I have had sucess with puppy in the past, but I thought Ubuntu would give me more bells and whistles.
[18:38] <pratz> I install 14.04 few days back and now system hangs on grub screen
[18:38] <pratz> even keyboard is hanged and I can not do any activity
[18:39] <pratz> and I see this grub version https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/2.02~beta2-9
[18:39] <Drewcifer> daftykins: Regardless, I placed the USB in the backup machine, booted to USB, and I got a black screen with white text that doesn't fit the screen. it looks like install or intialization from command line. There is a _ prompt but no response from any input.
[18:40] <Drewcifer> caps lock is flashing
[18:40] <swenzel> hey, i found this article and wanted to use it. but i have ubuntu 14.04 x64 and there seems to be no file 95-keymap.rules i also tried 'locate 95-keymap.rules' but got no result... any ideas?
[18:40] <daftykins> Drewcifer: ok, md5 hash the downloaded ISO to confirm it's not corrupt and re-make the flash drive after a full format
[18:40] <swenzel>  http://rebelliard.com/enabling-scrolling-using-the-microsoft-natural-ergonomic-keyboard-4000s-zoom-slider-on-ubuntu-12-10/
[18:41] <daftykins> swenzel: did you 'sudo updatedb' prior to 'locate x' ?
[18:42] <Drewcifer> daftykins: I am stuck in a black command screen that looks stuck. Should I just hold down PWR? I don't mind remaking the USB, I just don't want to damage anything on my back-up machine, it has important stuff on the windows partition of the built in HDD.
[18:42] <swenzel> daftykins: now I have, but still no result
[18:42] <daftykins> Drewcifer: attempting to boot on it will not have attempted to mount any Windows partitions, so yeah just turn it off.
[18:42] <daftykins> swenzel: create it :) is the best advice i can give
[18:43] <Drewcifer> I thought that too until I had a machine not boot to Windows after interupting a Linux initialization. But it was a corrupt HDD to start.
[18:43] <swenzel> daftykins: not sure what to put into it
[18:44] <stevenpage129> looking for support with apt-get/dpkg, any suggestions on what a good room would be?
[18:45] <daftykins> swenzel: i assume your guide was suggesting to do something with it, if not i have no idea sorry.
[18:46] <Drewcifer> Okie Doke, Windows booted normally. Sorry, I just cannot lose this machine. The last one died trying to install linux, but luckily it was junk and unimportant.
[18:47] <daftykins> Drewcifer: as a genuine tip, when it comes to technology, never even sacrifice known-good working systems at even the most basic level as booting a flash drive if they are important to you :)
[18:47] <TuxRescue> what are good places to chitchat with fellow ubuntu users other than #ubuntu-offtopic?
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> image it and backup the image
[18:47] <Drewcifer> I tried for three days to back it up using windows and I didn't have a big enough HDD.
[18:47] <jhutchins> daftykins: You don't need to format a drive if you're writing an image to it, that's redundant.
[18:47] <Drewcifer> Got a HDD and now I want to use it as my primary
[18:48] <daftykins> jhutchins: i know, but there's also no harm.
[18:48] <jack> stevenpage129, apt+dpkg are pretty much parts of the core
[18:48] <jhutchins> stevenpage129: On what platform?
[18:48] <Drewcifer> Im a sloppy users
[18:48] <wilee-nilee> !alis | TuxRescue
[18:49] <TuxRescue> that is quite useless as answer
[18:49] <jack> so any debian/ubuntu chan should do
[18:49] <stevenpage129> jhutchins: 12.04
[18:49] <TuxRescue> no
[18:49] <TuxRescue> you did not read my sentence properly then
[18:49] <wilee-nilee> !attitude | TuxRescue how about this one.
[18:49] <Drewcifer> lol
[18:49] <jhutchins> stevenpage129: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[18:49] <Drewcifer> !attitude
[18:49] <stevenpage129> well, the issue seems that it would be simple to fix, but it has eluded me so far
[18:49] <stevenpage129> apt-get fails to create any uses
[18:49] <TuxRescue> only because i am not happy with your answer i have attitude problems?
[18:49] <TuxRescue> are you serious?
[18:49] <stevenpage129> users*
[18:50] <wilee-nilee> TuxRescue, Your question is not one of ubuntu support.
[18:50] <jack> man apt-get is good too
[18:50] <stevenpage129> one seconds, I have a question posted to ask ubuntu, and ill get the link fo ryou
[18:50] <TuxRescue> who is in charge here for stopping trolls?
[18:50] <jhutchins> stevenpage129: Please summarize it here.
[18:50] <TuxRescue> dont answer then. a bad answer is a useless answer
[18:50] <wilee-nilee> TuxRescue, I'm a regular helper here, hardly a troll, read the link abd the channels policy period.
[18:50] <TuxRescue> you are what?
[18:51] <jhutchins> stevenpage129: Generally apt-get should not create users.
[18:51] <stevenpage129> jhutchins: simply put, when i install any package that requires the installation script to create a new user, it fails
[18:51] <TuxRescue> now who is the one with attitude problems
[18:51] <TuxRescue> i am curious
[18:51] <jhutchins> stevenpage129: Ah!  A well stated problem.
[18:51] <stevenpage129> for example, when installing varnish, i get the error "invalid user: varnish", or varnishlog
[18:51] <stevenpage129> but /etc/passwd is not chattr +i
[18:51] <jack> jhutchins, a few postinst scripts do create users
[18:52] <jhutchins> stevenpage129: Can you give us the error message, or approximate it?
[18:52] <jack> like varnish....
[18:52] <stevenpage129> Setting up varnish (3.0.2-1ubuntu0.1) ...
[18:52] <stevenpage129> install: invalid user `varnish'
[18:52] <jhutchins> stevenpage129: I mean what apt-get says?
[18:52] <stevenpage129> dpkg: error processing varnish (--configure):
[18:52] <CodePulsar> How can I enable SSD Trim support if I've installed Ubuntu on an encypted partition?
[18:52] <stevenpage129>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[18:52] <gilligan_> anyone here running ubuntu on  macbook6.2 ?
[18:52] <jhutchins> stevenpage129: Excellent, thank you.
[18:53] <stevenpage129> at first I figured it was an issue with a particular packages installation script, but it appears when trying to install any package that requires a user
[18:53] <jhutchins> stevenpage129: /etc/passwd should be owned and writable by root, world readable.  Is it?
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> stevenpage129, apt-get does not make users.
[18:54] <stevenpage129> mind you, if i create the users manually, and run apt-get install -f ,  the installation completes with success
[18:54] <jhutchins> stevenpage129: So you can create users as root (or with sudo), and of course you're running apt-get/dpkg as root or with sudo, right?
[18:54] <stevenpage129> right
[18:55] <wilee-nilee> stevenpage129, In ubuntu with a desktop?
[18:55] <jhutchins> stevenpage129: That's very odd behavior, it would suggest that something is broken with dpkg.
[18:55] <stevenpage129> sevrer
[18:55] <stevenpage129> server edition, LTS
[18:55] <wilee-nilee> cool
[18:55] <jhutchins> stevenpage129: What about dpkg-configure (or recnfigure)?
[18:56] <daftykins> gilligan_: imagining for a moment that the answer is yes, what would your actual question be?
[18:57] <wilee-nilee> CodePulsar, trim is not just a package, but a set of config mods
[18:57] <wilee-nilee> and a cron if you like
[18:57] <pratz> hello guys
[18:57] <alcides> guys, I can for my connection through a vpn? I mean... if the vpn is down there is no internet... right now it starts to use the direct link to access everything...
[18:57] <stevenpage129> like I said, if i user "useradd" and create the users and groups manually, and use "apt-get install -f", it completes with success. as part of the install script, i'm fairly certain apt-get calls dpkg --configure (dpkg: error processing varnish (--configure))
[18:57] <CodePulsar> wilee-nilee: any tutorial, wiki, blog I can look at to enable TRIM for encypted partitions?
[18:57] <CodePulsar> *encrypted
[18:57] <pratz> my system hangs on grub screen. I am using 14.04
[18:57] <stevenpage129> and i can still install and install other packages just fine...
[18:57] <gilligan_> daftykins, well turns outs its not as much an easy ride with  linux on macbook air as i thought..  right now i am still trying out how to even control display brightness
[18:57] <pratz> grub version https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/2.02~beta2-9
[18:58] <pratz> any ideas what to do next ?
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> CodePulsar, Sure I was looking for the one I used, https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd
[18:58] <gilligan_> daftykins, also there is a bug with suspend/resume where the sata controller goes nuts and i only find rather vague descriptions how to work around this
[18:59] <gilligan_> daftykins, like this  https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62351
[18:59] <wilee-nilee> CodePulsar, Not sure on encrypted is all.
[18:59] <stevenpage129> 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1983 Jun  3 20:11 /etc/passwd
[18:59] <CodePulsar> There is special config needed when using encypted partition
[18:59] <stevenpage129> 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1268 Jun  3 20:09 /etc/group
[18:59] <Flolila> is there any linux audioplayer that can read tag embedded covers?
[18:59] <CodePulsar> wilee-nilee: the config is different when using encryption
[18:59] <wilee-nilee> pratz, Just hangs, but will still boot if you choose the OS?
[19:00] <Lucax> hello, my backuprogram in ubuntu is giving an error: no connection to backend, does anyone know how to solve this issue?
[19:00] <captain-nemo> i heard someone mention the resume/suspend problem...
[19:00] <captain-nemo> just now
[19:00] <captain-nemo> *saw not heard of course
[19:00] <wilee-nilee> CodePulsar, Yes, I assumed that was the case, encryption is a good way to loose all the data, we see people here everyday in that circumstance.
[19:01] <pratz> wilee-nilee, even the keyboard is hanged
[19:01] <stevenpage129> and if there was something wrong with the package manager, it seems to be confined to creating and removing system users... because I can still install any package without this requirement as needed, and updates still work as expected
[19:02] <SheerLucidity614> stevenpage129: It really sounds like a permissions problem to me.
[19:02] <wilee-nilee> pratz, So if you get to grub it does not automatically boot after the count down? Real exacting info is important here.
[19:02] <stevenpage129> me too, but i simply cannot figure out where
[19:02] <stevenpage129> hmm, maybe i should try again, but running strace on apt-get
[19:03] <jhutchins> stevenpage129: What if you become root before you run apt-get?
[19:03] <pratz> wilee-nilee, no it does not automatically boots :(
[19:03] <daftykins> gilligan_: oh right, things far beyond that i am familiar with then... you did use the mac ISOs to install from i take it?
[19:04] <SheerLucidity614> jhutchins: sounds like a permissions problem for the dpkg app
[19:04] <user1> is there a similar free tool for linux like this ? http://www.5pmweb.com/images/timeline_feature.gif
[19:04] <captain-nemo> can anyone recommend a better irc client than xchat for the unity desktop?
[19:04] <xangua> !irc | captain-nemo
[19:04] <daftykins> captain-nemo: look into weechat perhaps
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> pratz, Not sure on the keyboard issue, is this a laptop or desktop, if a desktop have you tried other keyboards? Have you modified grub, and is this a new install and has it always bee this way? multiple questions here.
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> been*
[19:05] <captain-nemo> thx
[19:06] <Flolila> hm
[19:06] <pratz> wilee-nilee, its a desktop. have tried with other keyboards (they hang too). I have not modified grub. I had installed the system a week back
[19:06] <Flolila> any ideas how to check my .mp3-file integrity?
[19:06] <stevenpage129> switching to root, removing the package in question, along with the required users from passwd and group, and trying the installation again, resulted in the same issue
[19:07] <daftykins> Flolila: re-rip from CD :)
[19:07] <wilee-nilee> pratz, Was it ever working correctly?
[19:07] <Flolila> too much work :/
[19:07] <Flolila> but the problem is my dover.jpg is embedded in the files
[19:08] <Flolila> now linux seems to have problems reading it
[19:10] <captain-nemo> Empathy is better but I might use the firefox add-on
[19:11] <llutz> !info mp3val | Flolila
[19:11] <SheerLucidity614> stevenpage129: I found where you asked the question on the ubuntu help site and withdrew it.  Otherwise, I can't find a similar situation
[19:11] <stevenpage129> sorry i moved it to serverfdault
[19:11] <stevenpage129> serverfault
[19:12] <stevenpage129> http://serverfault.com/questions/601599/package-manager-cannot-create-users-installation-script-fails
[19:12] <Flolila> thanks already tried it but i would prefer something that can do batch
[19:12] <SheerLucidity614> ah!  Sounds like dpkg has a permissions problem, but you've done everything I would have done
[19:13] <stevenpage129> apt-get or dpkg should run okay with strace attached to it, no?
[19:13] <stevenpage129> looks like its my last resort
[19:13] <jack> !info dpkg
[19:13] <nectarys> hi, how to activate the usb support on virtualbox, please ?
[19:14] <yetanotherx_> Hi, I'm having a problem with DNS resolution. For some reason, I cannot ping http://google.com, and ping gives me "destination host unreachable". I do host http://google.com, and it says it's not found 3(NXDOMAIN). However, pinging google.com (without the http://) works fine, and host google.com shows all of the IPs. What could be going on here?
[19:15] <jack> ping should always go to a raw host, without http://
[19:15] <stevenpage129> http:// is a protocol and not part of DNS?
[19:15] <llutz> yetanotherx_: http is a protocol, not a domain/hostname, so its ok
[19:15] <SheerLucidity614> stevenpage129:  I did find where someone had the same problem installing zentyl on 10.04 here https://forum.zentyal.org/index.php?topic=8251.0 and the fix there required a patch on the zentyl side
[19:15] <jack> exactly
[19:15] <yetanotherx_> Okay. I can't access http://google.com either though
[19:16] <SheerLucidity614> so, is it possible it's a bug in the app?
[19:16] <stevenpage129> i thought maybe the same thing, during the installation of another package (Mon). now im trying varnish, and it appears to be doing the same thing
[19:16] <stevenpage129> and they are fairly reputable
[19:16] <stevenpage129> but
[19:17] <stevenpage129> ill have to try something else that requires the installer script to create a user and see how that turns out
[19:17] <jack> yetanotherx_, telnet google.com 80
[19:17] <SheerLucidity614> damn ... looks like you'll have to do the initial install, add the required users, then reinstall, on anything new until you get it resolved
[19:17] <jack> if that works, your browser is screwed
[19:17] <SheerLucidity614> either that or try to reinstall dpkg
[19:18] <stevenpage129> SheerLucidity614: never though about that. ill try another package, and if it is varnish, ill appeal to them. if it doesn't work, ill have to try and reinstall dpkg
[19:18] <ubuntubox> hello, I am getting 2 "experienced an internal error" during login, I checked in /var/crash and found its because if virtualbox and mousepad (my default text editor) that I installed, so I removed virtualbox but still getting the same thing, its 14.04
[19:19] <SheerLucidity614> I'll give you fair warning though, Steve, whenever I've had to go to the "reinstall dpkg" route, I've ended up reinstalling the whole os
[19:19] <stevenpage129> unfortunately, this is a production system
[19:19] <ubuntubox> any help please?
[19:19] <stevenpage129> so id be better just implementing this workaround each time ^)^
[19:19] <Voyage> is there a similar free tool for linux like this ? http://www.5pmweb.com/images/timeline_feature.gif
[19:19] <SheerLucidity614> yikes, well, good luck!
[19:19] <SheerLucidity614> exit
[19:20] <trism> stevenpage129: in the question it says you manually added the users, how did you do it? the varnish postinst just uses adduser if getent passwd varnish returns nonzero exit
[19:21] <stevenpage129> trism: i just used useradd -r varnish; useradd -r varnishlog, and then apt-get install -f. afterwards, installation finished with success, and varnish is working
[19:21] <ubuntubox> Voyage, theres Redmine I think if you need project management software.
[19:23] <Voyage> ubuntubox,  k
[19:25] <Canaimero-rossie> hola cree
[19:25] <planetmaker> Voyage, the answer probably depends on what and how you use that software
[19:26] <planetmaker> I've been using GanttProject for fancy graphis similar to that
[19:26] <planetmaker> For the software projects management I use redmine - but there I'm not interested in times at all, but more its integrated bug tracker
[19:27] <planetmaker> though it supports assignements, time spent on stuff etc
[19:27] <Voyage> planetmaker,  project planning
[19:28] <planetmaker> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_project_management_software has an overview over more software... not sure how helpful it is
[19:29] <ubuntubox> hello, I am getting 2 "experienced an internal error" during login, I checked in /var/crash and found its because if virtualbox and mousepad (my default text editor) that I installed, so I removed virtualbox but still getting the same thing, its 14.04
[19:30] <phunyguy> ubuntubox, care to pastebin that error log?
[19:30] <trism> stevenpage129: did you test that adduser works?
[19:31] <ubuntubox> phunyguy, looks like I don't have read access to that file...
[19:31] <Canaimero-rossie> jkñ
[19:32] <stevenpage129> trism: yes, i just created a test user with adduser, and all seems well
[19:32] <phunyguy> ubuntubox, then how did you find the errors?
[19:32] <ubuntubox> phunyguy, because it is named virtualbox crash
[19:33] <phunyguy> ubuntubox, so are you not able to log in at all?
[19:33] <e^> ubuntubox: use sudo to read it
[19:34] <ubuntubox> phunyguy, I am able to login, and everything just everytime I log in it is showing a popup window with "experienced an internal error"
[19:34] <phunyguy> e^, ubuntubox, also those crash files may not eb related to the failing login
[19:34] <phunyguy> ubuntubox, can you take a screenshot of the error?
[19:34] <phunyguy> OH you are talking about apport!
[19:35] <ubuntubox> phunyguy, yes apport
[19:35] <phunyguy> if you actually click through those, they will go away.
[19:35] <trism> stevenpage129: if you run getent passwd on some nonexistent user, do you get a nonzero exit status?
[19:35] <e^> i get a com-gtk-root (something like that) almost every time i login
[19:35] <ubuntubox> phunyguy, but I am getting it with everytime login
[19:36] <phunyguy> ubuntubox, and if you never want to see them again, change the /etc/default/apport file to contain "enabled=0" without the quotes.
[19:36] <phunyguy> then service apport restart
[19:37] <phunyguy> ubuntubox, (use sudo of course!)
[19:37] <phunyguy> ubuntubox, and when I said "click through those" I mean don't just close them... actually follow the prompts.
[19:38] <phunyguy> the Ubuntu dev team wants to know about bugs, and apport wants you to file them.
[19:38] <sydney> True. ;)
[19:38] <sydney> lam
[19:38] <sydney> oops
[19:39] <stevenpage129> if i run "getent passwd" with my regular user,  the passwd file is returned. if i change user to varnish, or any user system user, i get the same. from what I can tell, there is no error status
[19:39] <wilee-nilee> planetmaker, I like that, good drummer, the obligatory triplets. ;)
[19:39] <trism> stevenpage129: no i mean: getent passwd username; replacing username with a user that doesn't exist on your system
[19:39] <stevenpage129> ok one sec
[19:39] <wilee-nilee> oops wrong channe;
[19:40] <ubuntubox> e^, this crash file is full of binary data...
[19:40] <trism> stevenpage129: then: echo $?;
[19:40] <phunyguy> ubuntubox, yes ignore those.
[19:40] <phunyguy> ubuntubox, file the bugs, or disable apport.
[19:40] <ubuntubox> phunyguy, ok
[19:40] <skinux> I can access Windows drive using Nautilus, but via shell the directory is empty. And Eclipse says workspace (location on Windows drive) is invalid or read only.
[19:40] <skinux> How do I fix this?
[19:41] <trism> stevenpage129: the postinst is pretty simple so if adduser works, my only guess is you are getting something weird from getent, though if getent passwd alone works then I kind of doubt that too, so I'm pretty stumped
[19:41] <wilee-nilee> planetmaker, Sorry about that.
[19:41] <phunyguy> skinux, which directory is empty?
[19:41] <stevenpage129> if i run "getent passwd someuserthatdoesntexist" it just returns nothing
[19:41] <captain-nemo> whoever said it was right, encryption may be secure but it is a great way to lose data
[19:42] <trism> stevenpage129: yeah the output doesn't matter only the exit status, so: echo $?; after you run that
[19:42] <phunyguy> skinux, gvfs is a funny program which is how nautilus mounts devices... it uses its own interface as well as other gnome apps to access the drive directly via gvfs.  any non gvfs aware apps can find the data under /run/user/$uid/gvfs
[19:42] <skinux> Directory /media/<user>/os
[19:43] <phunyguy> skinux, oh wait, which ubuntu version?
[19:43] <skinux> 14.04
[19:43] <ubuntubox> phunyguy, hey BTW why "virualbox" is still is my /etc/init.d/ /etc/default folders after its removed
[19:43] <stevenpage129> getent passwd blah
[19:43] <stevenpage129> 0
[19:43] <phunyguy> skinux, yeah they moved that to /run/user/ a few releases back.
[19:43] <trism> stevenpage129: ahh there is your problem right there
[19:43] <trism> stevenpage129: it should be nonzero
[19:43] <trism> stevenpage129: weird
[19:43] <phunyguy> ubuntubox, because you didn't remove with the purge option
[19:43] <stevenpage129> hmm
[19:43] <mitt> hi peers!
[19:43] <phunyguy> ubuntubox, when you remove as just "remove" it keeps configs.
[19:44] <skinux> Well /run/<user> doesn't exist. Nautilus shows it as mounted to /media/<user>/os
[19:44] <ubuntubox> phunyguy, so I have to install it again and purge it?
[19:44] <mitt> bash:/sudo su hi_peers
[19:44] <phunyguy> skinux, /run/usr/<UID>
[19:44] <mitt> password:
[19:44] <phunyguy> ubuntubox, you should just be able to purge it
[19:45] <phunyguy> mitt?
[19:45] <mitt> bash:/exit
[19:45] <mitt> yes
[19:45] <mitt> &
[19:45] <mitt> ?
[19:45] <phunyguy> what are you doing?
[19:45] <mitt> me?
[19:45] <phunyguy> yes...
[19:45] <mitt> I am like a terminal
[19:45] <mitt> hahahah
[19:45] <streulma> hello, my notebook is a week back from repair (Acer) sometimes the webcam works, sometimes not, after 1 minute the light goes off. Same problem on Ubuntu and Windows 8.1. Now after repair, the problem cames back...
[19:45] <skinux> That only has '1000' which only contains Linux stuff
[19:45] <lykw> if you reinstalled your system with a slightly smaller partition size (like 2-3 GB), and you open gnome disk utility, and the partition containing your system is shown on the same side, say, the left of your disk block, does that necessarily mean that mostly the same areas of your HDD has been used for both your last and present system?
[19:45] <phunyguy> please stop doing that
[19:45] <mitt> me stop?
[19:45] <streulma> I thought it was an Ubuntu bug
[19:45] <ubuntubox> phunyguy, ok
[19:45] <phunyguy> mist, please leave this channel for support only
[19:45] <streulma> as I saw reported
[19:45] <phunyguy> mitt*
[19:45] <phunyguy> sorry mist
[19:45] <mitt> okay, sorry
[19:46] <phunyguy> :)
[19:46] <phunyguy> skinux, that is the directory you are looking for
[19:46] <phunyguy> skinux, is there gvfs under that?
[19:46] <streulma> is this a
[19:46] <stevenpage129> trism: it seems that i get the same from  getent passwd blah; echo $?;  on another system, but one that does not have this issue
[19:46] <streulma> n Ubuntu problem ?
[19:46] <stevenpage129> so i is even further stumped :P
[19:46] <sydney> streulma: Hmm
[19:46] <skinux> Yes, it's empty
[19:46] <phunyguy> streulma, no it is a hardware issue
[19:47] <phunyguy> streulma, if it does it in both OSs, then it is not OS related
[19:47] <phunyguy> skinux, hrmm... is it open in nautilus or unmounted?
[19:47] <trism> stevenpage129: yeah that is weird, you should be getting 2
[19:47] <streulma> phunyguy: is there no warranty status that after 3 repairs you get a new notebook ?
[19:47] <skinux> Nautilus shows Windows mounted at /media/<user>/os, and I can see Windows files via Nautilus, just not via shell.
[19:47] <phunyguy> streulma, that is beyond the scope of this channel
[19:48] <phunyguy> oh...
[19:48] <streulma> skinux: you have ASUS? :)
[19:48] <phunyguy> do you have that specified in /etc/fstab?
[19:48] <skinux> I'm not sure....I have a DELL Inspiron
[19:48] <phunyguy> skinux, can you pastebin the contents of /etc/fstab?
[19:49] <skinux> fstab doesn't have any info for Windows mount
[19:49] <phunyguy> hmm
[19:49] <stevenpage129> trism: so my issue is that the postinst script is having issues checking whether a user exists or not? atleast this is somewhere to work from / something to go on
[19:49] <phunyguy> ok so can you get to /media/<user>/os ?
[19:49] <skinux> Yes, but it's empty
[19:49] <sydney> streulma: I agree with phunyguy;if it happens in both os'es the problem is probably in the webcam itself
[19:50] <phunyguy> skinux, did you install ntfs-3g?
[19:50] <skinux> It's empty via shell, I can see the files via Nautilus
[19:50] <trism> stevenpage129: yes it has: if ! getent passwd varnish; then adduser varnish; fi basically
[19:50] <streulma> sydney ok that is clear, but he is JUST repaired !
[19:50] <phunyguy> skinux, I am not entirely sure how that is possible.
[19:50] <skinux> Yeah...my either! Which is why I'm confused
[19:51] <phunyguy> ls -al /media/<usr>/os produces no output?
[19:51] <phunyguy> just . and ..?
[19:51] <OerHeks> skinux, what does "mount" tell you
[19:51]  * sydney shrugs,because he doenst know how what else to say to streulma.
[19:51] <phunyguy> OerHeks, it may not show up there with fuse mounted stuff
[19:51] <wheresmypaaants> Hey guys
[19:51] <skinux> mount says it can't find /media/<user>/os in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[19:52] <planetmaker> streulma, it's not unheard that sometimes hardware shops simply "repair" it by re-packing it ;)
[19:52] <OerHeks> phunyguy, you are correct
[19:52] <phunyguy> skinux, JUST the mount command
[19:52] <phunyguy> no arguments
[19:52] <planetmaker> or just exchanging stuff unrelated to the complaint
[19:52] <sydney> wheresmypaaants: Hi!!(also get some pants on) ;) :P
[19:52] <wheresmypaaants> Having an ubuntu issue. When it turns on now, it stays at boot screen. If i hit altF1 fast enough, it shows two lines. Disabling IRQ, then something dispatcher and an edit command
[19:52] <wheresmypaaants> right now im talking in recovery mode
[19:52] <wheresmypaaants> but i'd love to get to the bottom of this :D
[19:53] <phunyguy> wheresmypaaants, "recovery mode"?
[19:53] <phunyguy> wheresmypaaants, how are you chatting from that?
[19:53] <wheresmypaaants> phunyguy: Boot into recovery mode VIA grub, then i hit resume
[19:53] <wheresmypaaants> it loads in low graphics res, and i can open browsers and what not
[19:53] <phunyguy> wheresmypaaants, oh... do you get any errors at all?  What about dmesg?  These things will help troubleshoot
[19:53] <skinux> Output of mount: http://pastebin.com/pgHwAaZg
[19:53] <SenorSenpai> hi everyone i have a huge problem, my unity stopped loading all I have is a blank desktop with a mouse, and I can right click it and make folders etc. what can I do to fix it? thanks in advance
[19:53] <stevenpage129> trism: sorry, my fault again.
[19:53] <stevenpage129> steven@rapidwebs:~$ getent passwd blah; echo $?;
[19:53] <stevenpage129> 2
[19:54] <stevenpage129> trism: that seems right?
[19:54] <wheresmypaaants> phunyguy: No errors, just those two lines. Any way to fetch the latest BOOT log?
[19:54] <trism> stevenpage129: yeah that's right
[19:54] <phunyguy> skinux, /dev/sda5 on /media/skinux/OS type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)  <---- that is the one we are concerned with
[19:54] <phunyguy> and apparently it does show there!
[19:54] <skinux> Not before I check what that command does....one second
[19:55] <phunyguy> skinux, are you typing OS at the command line, or os?
[19:55] <phunyguy> skinux, that's not a command
[19:55] <skinux> Ohh, okay.
[19:55] <skinux> Put that inside of fstab?
[19:55] <phunyguy> skinux, no, answer my question
[19:55] <skinux> It is 'os' NOT 'OS'
[19:56] <phunyguy> skinux, not according to that paste
[19:56] <phunyguy> try to ls -al /media/skinux/OS
[19:56] <phunyguy> :-/
[19:56] <wheresmypaaants> phunyguy: DMESG: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7597000/
[19:56] <skinux> Oh, FFS! It always worked using 'os' before...not it's working using 'OS'
[19:56] <wheresmypaaants> phunyguy: BOOT.LOG: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7597003/
[19:57] <Drewcifer> Google broke. What PAE?
[19:57] <phunyguy> wheresmypaaants, for reference, I have no idea what the issue is, and I have to do some work.  Someone else can look at the logs
[19:57] <nectarys> how to make the virtualbox supports usb PLEASE !!
[19:57] <phunyguy> skinux, good luck to you sir, and enjoy your found data
[19:57] <phunyguy> also please keep your language clean, skinux
[19:57] <phunyguy> :)
[19:57] <e^> nectarys: I'm not sure, but you can make the mounted USB a shared folder and use it in virtualbox.
[19:58] <skinux> I didn't use any profanity.
[19:58] <phunyguy> skinux, acronyms are still curses
[19:58] <nectarys> e^, i've tried that. but it wouldn't work
[19:58] <skinux> Ohh.....you guys are no fun :P
[19:58] <phunyguy> skinux, "ffs"
[19:58] <phunyguy> skinux, just be careful :)
[19:58] <skinux> Sure...take all the fun out of it. lol
[19:58] <e^> nectarys: no way, it should. did you install the guest additions?
[19:58] <phunyguy> gotta run, see you all later
[19:59] <wheresmypaaants> Anyone else wanna help with my boot issue?
[19:59] <Drewcifer> Don't even know what that means
[19:59] <sydney> I dont know what that stands for,nor do i want to know. ;)
[19:59] <Drewcifer> So effectively you made look at a curse word thanks
[19:59] <wilee-nilee> nectarys, You have to add it in the preferences in the start gui
[19:59] <phunyguy> Drewcifer, relax.
[19:59] <nectarys> wilee-nilee, Config > USB > ?
[19:59] <Drewcifer> I am, just showing you hole in your logic
[20:00] <nectarys> e^, what guest additions ?
[20:00] <Drewcifer> for pete sakes could had been replaced there, FYI. now you know
[20:00] <skinux> Now, how can I tell Ubuntu to make sure a few symlinks are present during boot?
[20:00] <e^> nectarys: im trying what wilee-nilee is suggesting now.
[20:00] <phunyguy> Drewcifer, please drop it, and let's stick to support topics.
[20:00] <sydney> SenorSenpai: can you log out?Can you start the terminal?
[20:00] <Drewcifer> Now, I am downloading a .iso what is PAE?
[20:00] <phunyguy> !pae
[20:00] <e^> nectarys: you click on devices > insert guest additions (in the main menu, global menu)
[20:00] <wilee-nilee> nectarys, I forget exactly where, but it would be in the gui that you start the vbox with, I don;t have it installed at the moment.
[20:01] <phunyguy> now I really have to go.
[20:01] <sydney> Lets all say goodbye to phunyguy. :D
[20:01] <sydney> Goodbye :D
[20:01] <stevenpage129> trism: where are you reading the varnish postinst scrpt from
[20:01] <Drewcifer> by phunyguy
[20:01] <Drewcifer> bye
[20:02] <stevenpage129> trism: if i could go thru it and check each command for a permissions error this might help me track down the issue
[20:02] <Drewcifer> And thanks for !
[20:02] <e^> nectarys: when you install it, it appears as a cd-rom in the guest OS, and you just install it.
[20:02] <gregL> I would like to have a script run at startup..  You used to be able to use the app "startup applications"  Would anyone know of an App like that or a way to call a script at startup?
[20:03] <Martijn-NL> Hi everyone - i want to convert wma files to mp3. I found this code on google: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5784661/ffmpeg-convert-entire-directory I edit it to this, but it doesn't work: http://pastebin.com/57xB53eq
[20:03] <trism> stevenpage129: I'm looking at the source package but you can find it at /var/lib/dpkg/info/varnish.postinst
[20:03] <stevenpage129> trism: ty
[20:03] <Martijn-NL> Files cannot be found. Does anyone know how to do this?
[20:04] <wilee-nilee> !details | Martijn-NL for the channel.
[20:04] <sydney> Martijn-NL: Did you try WinFF? Or do you only want to use terminal?
[20:04] <Martijn-NL> sydney: terminal
[20:04] <Martijn-NL> *** THIS PROGRAM IS DEPRECATED *** This program is only provided for compatibility and will be removed in a future release. Please use avconv instead. 18: No such file or directory
[20:04] <Drewcifer> !sfs
[20:05] <sydney> Martijn-NL: ok,but it works. :D
[20:05] <Martijn-NL> sydney: No, It cannot found the wma files. Don't know why.
[20:06] <SenorSenpai> sydney: i can start it with ctrl + alt + f1
[20:06] <SenorSenpai> what do I do from there
[20:06] <Drewcifer> !devx
[20:06] <SenorSenpai> i think its becuase i installed emerald
[20:06] <Martijn-NL> SenorSenpai: Are you talking to me?
[20:07] <sydney> SenorSenpai: Will ctrl-alt-t work?
[20:07] <SenorSenpai> sydney it does not
[20:07] <Drewcifer> is Slacko Puppy 64 bit the devx/sfs ones? opposed to the pao/no-pao versions?
[20:07] <SenorSenpai> and no Martijn-NL i dont think so, thats why i spoke directly to sydney
[20:08] <sydney> SenorSenpai: ok,ctrl-alt-f1.then it asks for your username and pasword.
[20:08] <SenorSenpai> yes
[20:08] <skinux> Is there still a file to put commands for Ubuntu to perform as desktop environment boots up?
[20:08] <Martijn-NL> sydney: What works, Sydney?
[20:08] <sydney> SenorSenpai: sudo apt-get remove emerald?
[20:08] <e^> skinux: .profile in your home directory, that's what i use anyways
[20:09] <e^> maybe somebody more knowledgeable will pitch in
[20:09] <sydney> Martijn-NL:Have you tried WinFF? What is your problem? Not showi your wwa files?
[20:09] <Canaimero-rossie> hello
[20:10] <sydney> Martijn-NL: I need more info. ;)
[20:10] <SenorSenpai> rebooting to find out if that fixes it
[20:10] <Martijn-NL> sydney: I use commandline. The script cannot find the files. Did you see my script on pastebin? http://pastebin.com/57xB53eq
[20:10] <SenorSenpai> that didnt fix it ;/
[20:11] <sydney> SenorSenpai: Can you log out?
[20:11] <SenorSenpai> yea
[20:12] <SenorSenpai> im thinking to try installing another DE, then pick that
[20:12] <sydney> SenorSenpai: Thats what i was thinking. ;)
[20:12] <sydney> SenorSenpai: What one?
[20:12] <SenorSenpai> flashback
[20:13] <sydney> SenorSenpai: What are your specs?
[20:14] <sydney> Martijn-NL: Sorry,not 100% sure how to help. Dont quite understand.
[20:14] <sydney> SenorSenpai: Gnome,lubuntu,xubuntu,kde?
[20:14] <SenorSenpai> sydney ubuntu 14.04
[20:14] <sydney> SenorSenpai: oh,does it work if you log into the guest session?
[20:15] <SenorSenpai> gonna try that quick
[20:15] <Martijn-NL> sydney: I fixed it using your tip WinFF (only i did want it to with cli). I want to convert from WMA to MP3.
[20:15] <sydney> SenorSenpai: I was listing a few DE's. :D
[20:15] <SenorSenpai> hah it does, unity loaded
[20:15] <sydney> SenorSenpai: weird!!
[20:16] <SenorSenpai> yea i dont get it lol
[20:16] <sydney> SenorSenpai: Would you like ubuntu gnome as your DE?
[20:16] <maddawg3> fascinating... Why is it that my system monitor says I am using 80% of my CPU in the "Processes" tab it only shows 12% of my CPU being used?
[20:16] <Audi0Philic> no?
[20:16] <SenorSenpai> ubuntu gnome as in gnome3?
[20:16] <OerHeks> Martijn-NL, wma is prop., i had issues with playing them, this answer with ppa is a solution > http://askubuntu.com/questions/456072/clementine-wont-play-wma-with-your-gstreamer-installation-is-missing-a-plugi
[20:16] <sydney> SenorSenpai: yes
[20:16] <SenorSenpai> honestly I dont like that
[20:16] <sydney> SenorSenpai: gnome 2?
[20:17] <sydney> SenorSenpai: you like gnome 2?
[20:18] <SenorSenpai> ive used gnome2 a lot in the past, as well as mate desktop
[20:18] <SenorSenpai> so yea gnome2 is what i like
[20:18] <Martijn-NL> OerHeks: Thanks. I experience no problems at this moment. Did you know how to get the CD track titles from the internet?
[20:18] <OerHeks> !info gnome-desktop-environment
[20:19] <sydney> SenorSenpai: do you want to install that?
[20:19] <Martijn-NL> OerHeks: I convert a collection wma files from an already stored cd?
[20:19] <SenorSenpai> gnome flashback aka gnome2, is package gnome-session-flashback right?
[20:19] <SenorSenpai> !info gnome-session-flashback
[20:19] <OerHeks> Martijn-NL not sure clementine can do wma title search
[20:19] <sydney> SenorSenpai: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback
[20:19] <Symphonym> Guest48378 Are you the same "guest" that I talked to about my Wifi problems the other day?
[20:20] <OerHeks> nor mp3 editor tools
[20:20] <sydney> SenorSenpai: or just sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback
[20:21] <SenorSenpai> thanks, logged out and into it, working with my account :)
[20:22] <sydney> SenorSenpai: great!!
[20:22] <sydney> SenorSenpai: I have like 8 DE's on my pc. :D
[20:22] <tomyzecat> Hi
[20:22] <SenorSenpai> eheh i tend to stick to one for th majority
[20:23] <sydney> SenorSenpai: Me to,but sometimes variation is good. :D
[20:23] <maddawg3> can someone help me understand the system monitor that comes with ubuntu
[20:23] <ihsw> i tried running apt-get update and i'm getting hash sum mismatch... why is this happening and how do i fix it?
[20:23] <maddawg3> it says i'm using 80% of my cpu but the process tab doesnt show what is using it all
[20:23] <sydney> Now,Windows,beat that!! :D
[20:23] <Squarepy> maddawg, reminds me of the windows task manager
[20:23] <Amketroe> I've stuck w/ xubuntu for the longest time due to laptop specs...
[20:24] <maddawg3> no this only shows i'm using 10%
[20:24] <maddawg3> which isnt true
[20:24] <maddawg3> i think it's only showing tasks running as me
[20:24] <das_> someone can help me to upgrade my ubuntu to 13.10
[20:24] <das_> i'm using 13.04
[20:24] <sydney> maddawg3: what task manager are you running?
[20:25] <CodePulsar> Any reasons why I only see the swap partition in /etc/cryptab ?
[20:25] <CodePulsar> I have 3 encrypted partitions
[20:25] <CodePulsar> ./ , /home , swap
[20:25] <maddawg3> oh figured it out
[20:25] <maddawg3> lolz
[20:26] <Canaimero-rossie> halquien  abla español
[20:26] <sydney> SenorSenpai: Bye!! Have fun with gnome fallback. :D
[20:26] <ZupZ0rx> o-o
[20:27] <Canaimero-rossie> chao
[20:27] <Jordan_U> CodePulsar: Are you sure that you have 3 LUKS volumes, rather than one LUKS colume containing 3 LVM logical volumes?
[20:27] <ixio> !ot
[20:29] <das_> http://postimg.org/image/fgihx6lwn/1f9df543/ why this error when i try to update ?
[20:30] <CodePulsar> Jordan_U: I've selected "Encrypt the new Ubuntu installation for security" at installation time
[20:30] <OerHeks> das_, does that repeat after 'try again'?
[20:30] <das_> don't change nothing OerHeks
[20:30] <das_> yes
[20:30] <OerHeks> das_, open terminal: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:30] <das_> it repeat
[20:31] <makki> hi! i have installed ubuntu 14.4 on an old hp pavilion and now the wifi is not working! when i run " lspci | grep Ether" i get "03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 02)"   help plzzzz
[20:31] <OerHeks> you have a networkconnection, for irc, but does your browser have a connection?
[20:31] <das_> http://pastebin.com/qvPanEQV
[20:32] <CodePulsar> Jordan_U: hmm, sudo cryptsetup status /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 says /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is inactive.
[20:32] <OerHeks> das_,  try changing mirror in softwarecenter> sources
[20:33] <das_> how can i do that ?
[20:33] <makki> hi! i have installed ubuntu 14.4 on an old hp pavilion and now the wifi is not working! when i run " lspci | grep Ether" i get "03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 02)"   help plzzzz
[20:33] <Jordan_U> CodePulsar: Please pastebin the contents of /etc/fstab and /proc/mounts.
[20:34] <OerHeks> das_, softwarecenter > top panel edit > sources
[20:35] <keychainred> whats the easiest way to make a python script i can load on a web page that allows me to input data to be used in printing out simple statements that i can copy paste
[20:36] <CodePulsar> Jordan_U: http://paste.kde.org/phfcohjpk/0fmtmb
[20:38] <CodePulsar> I see that UUIDs change frequently
[20:38] <Symphonym> I'm suspecting Wifi driver problems since after ugprading to 14.04 I get very consistent lag spikes, only occurs with Wifi, not wired. My laptop is using the "AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter", any package/driver I can download that might solve the issue?
[20:38] <CodePulsar> what is in /etc/cryptab is different than any UUID spitted by blkid
[20:38] <Jordan_U> CodePulsar: No. UUIDs never change unless you create a new filesystem.
[20:39] <CodePulsar> they've changed several times
[20:39] <Kuperstein> Oh jeez. is everyone having fstab issues?
[20:39] <CodePulsar> Kuperstein: yes
[20:39] <makki> hi! i have installed ubuntu 14.4 on an old hp pavilion and now the wifi is not working! when i run " lspci | grep Ether" i get "03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 02)"   help plzzzz
[20:39] <Kuperstein> I'm frustrated with configuring fstab in Xubuntu 14.04
[20:39] <Kuperstein> I just came from #xubuntu and nobody answered... why was gnome-disks removed from xubuntu 14.04?
[20:39] <Jordan_U> CodePulsar: You have an unencrypted root filesystem, and your home directory (/home/username/, not /home/) is encrypted using ecryptfs.
[20:40] <CodePulsar> Jordan_U: so only home got encrypted?
[20:40] <Kuperstein> or.. why was gparted not included? do they just expect us to do fstab the old fashion way?
[20:40] <CodePulsar> Jordan_U: /home/username that is
[20:40] <Jordan_U> CodePulsar: Correct.
[20:41] <amflir> how to find and copy all images?
[20:41] <Kuperstein> Anyone mind chatting w/ me about fstab configs?
[20:42] <neldogz> what does the Ubuntu Software updater update that the Sudo apt-get upgrade command does not?
[20:42] <Kuperstein> @amflir you can do a search using find ~ \*.ext and replacing ext with the filetype extension
[20:43] <Kuperstein> @neldogz I believe it is the same. using apt-get upgrade and updating through the ubuntu software center should essentially do the same thing given your subscribed PPAs
[20:44] <amflir> Kuperstein, there are a lot of image types, any simple way to find file type, by reading header, etc?
[20:44] <neldogz> Kuperstein, I performed a test today. I fully updated using the upgrade command.. but afterwards the Ubuntu Software updater still had updates to apply
[20:44] <elementary-site4> does anyone have experience with BOOTICE?
[20:45] <Kuperstein> @amflir I'm not sure, you can take a look at http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/foremost.1.html
[20:46] <Kuperstein> @neldogs you may need to run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to apply those changes.
[20:46] <neldogz> thanks Kuperstein
[20:46] <Jordan_U> amflir: file /path/to/file
[20:48] <ysh> i wrote a shell script and the script have multiple runs multiple php script with arguments, but when i run this script from cron it doesnt run as aspected
[20:48] <ysh> on further findings i found that php script didnt get the arguments
[20:48] <Jordan_U> ysh: Please don't cross post questions. Wait for a bit to see if you get an answer in the first channel before asking in another.
[20:49] <Kuperstein> @amflir if you want to copy all images to a certain directory, you can write up a short bash script that does "sudo cp ~\*.ext (target destination here) for each extension type.
[20:49] <unopaste> Kuperstein: Error: No closing quotation
[20:49] <Kuperstein> @amflir if you want to copy all images to a certain directory, you can write up a short bash script that does "sudo cp ~\*.ext (target destination here) for each extension type. "
[20:49] <HM06> each time my conky updates, it draws the new clock on top of the old one. http://zagortenay333.deviantart.com/art/Conky-Vision-395777503 vs http://imgur.com/nqbwrT1
[20:50] <Kuperstein> @HM06 does your clock save its state on shutdown? In that case, you may not need to have it auto-run on bootup. Go to your menu, type in "startup applications" and see if your clock widget is starting a new instance every time you boot
[20:50] <Jordan_U> Kuperstein: Please don't prepend '@' to your messages, just use the person's nick alone. (that said, we will also fix our bot :)
[20:51] <Kuperstein> Jordan_U: bad habits die hard. I work for the gov and it's how we chat on AdobeDCO
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> Kuperstein: type a few letters of the name and hit TAB. Habit broken
[20:52] <HM06> Kuperstein: The conky isn't in that list. I also have this issue when I start it manually from cmmand line
[20:54] <Kuperstein> HM06: How many items are in your startup-applications?
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> HM06: is your system time drifting?
[20:55] <das_> OerHerks thank u a lot, seems that the command that u suggest me work :D
[20:55] <HM06> ActionParsnip: the system timeon the comp matches the time on my phone, at least.
[20:56] <HM06> Kuperstein: one. Indicator application
[20:56] <HM06> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-application/indicator-application-service
[20:57] <Martijn-NL> Who did ever run Ubuntu on a Raspberry Pi?
[20:57] <Kuperstein> Martijn-NL: I have, back in the day when ubuntu still had a netbook edition
[20:58] <Martijn-NL> Kuperstein: Does it perform good with the pi?
[20:58] <shreezbot> I'm having an issue with my mouse acting very strange and dissapearing on 14.04...
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> Martijn-NL: i'd run Ubuntu + OpenBox personally
[20:58] <shreezbot> And when I click tabs in Chrome for instance, it sometimes just closes them...
[20:58] <Martijn-NL> ActionParsnip: At the Raspberry Pi?
[20:59] <Kuperstein> Martijn-NL It's okay. There are definitely better debian based distros than ubuntu for the Pi
[20:59] <Martijn-NL> Kuperstein: I know, but I like Ubuntu the most.
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> Martijn-NL: sure. Comes in at 300Mb running here....
[20:59] <ryan_46> If I have a Windows 8.1 machine and I install Ubuntu to the whole HD, will Ubuntu sucessfully install and boot up the Ubuntu grub?
[20:59] <shreezbot> I can hit CTRL+ALT+F1 to swap to the terminal and then CTRL+ALT+F7 to swap back, and it fixes it for a few minutes, but it breaks again very soon thereafter...
[20:59] <Jordan_U> ryan_46: Yes.
[21:00] <yakiza> hello everybody i have
[21:00] <yakiza>  a problem with the teamspeak
[21:00] <ryan_46> Thanks Jordan_U
[21:00] <yakiza> cant  start the server
[21:00] <Kuperstein> Martijn-NL It surely worked for me, try your louck with the Pi :)
[21:00] <Jordan_U> ryan_46: You're welcome.
[21:00] <yakiza> i have a problem i saw a lot of tutorials on youtube and google but i cant run my server
[21:00] <yakiza> anyone here know?
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> yakiza: you need to hit enter less dude
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> !teamspeak
[21:01] <Kuperstein> Okay... Anyone know what is the current disk utility for Xubuntu 14.04? Or which one is included in Ubuntu 14.04?
[21:01] <amflir> I'm trying to find and copy all images but I get this error, can you help me solve it? http://paste.debian.net/103638/
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> Kuperstein: gparted
[21:02] <Martijn-NL> Kuperstein: How many pi's do you have?
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> amflir: id ask in #bash
[21:10] <Tom322>  I'm trying to install XUbuntu 14.04 on a DL360 G4, it's older hardware, I had it get to the "Install" page once but have not been able to get back to it since, it gets stuck on a black page with a keyboard=and a person in a circle page...
[21:10] <xeno_> I cannot get an upside down Spanish starting exclamation quote from my keyboard.
[21:10] <xeno_> Any suggestions?
[21:13] <Tom322>  I'm trying to install XUbuntu 14.04 on a DL360 G4, it's older hardware, I had it get to the "Install" page once but have not been able to get back to it since, it gets stuck on a black page with a keyboard=and a person in a circle page...
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> Xeno_: have you asked in #ubuntu-es ?
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> Tom322: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[21:14] <Tom322> it works on other hardware
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> Tom322: what GPU do you use?
[21:17] <Tom322> its built into the mb
[21:17] <xeno_> Ok.
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> Tom322: yes, but what is it
[21:18] <Tom322> let me get the name 1 sec
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> Tom322: it can range from a SiS 755 to an Nvidia 250 and anything between and beyond.....
[21:18] <canaima__> hola coño
[21:20] <Tom322> how do i address my answer back to your name
[21:20] <canaima__> hello
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> Tom322: type a few letters from names and hit TAB
[21:22] <Tom322> ActionParsnip: i c thx
[21:22] <canaima__> sileds
[21:22] <canaima__> bola de mierda
[21:22] <Tom322> ActionParsnip: i will get the name off the diagnostic page, 1 sec
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> Tom322: we just need the GPU
[21:24] <muru> Can someone tell me what is the difference between security.ubuntu.com and archive.ubuntu.com? I read somewhere that the first is just an alias for the second.
[21:25] <ikonia> muru: they are different repos
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> Muru: ping both and you'll see if it is the same, won't you?
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> Too obvious?
[21:26] <Tom322> ActionParsnip: it is a ATI Rage XL Video Controller
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> Tom322: try the boot option: radeon.nomodeset=1
[21:27] <Tom322> ActionParsnip: where do i type that
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption
[21:29] <Tom322> ActionParsnip: i dont get to the boot option screen...
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> Tom322: it will show on ANY hardware. You do get it
[21:32] <Tom322> ActionParsnip: it goes to bootlogo then the screen is black and i see 2 icons on the bottom, in the middle, one looks like a keyboard then an "=" and then a person in a circle
[21:32] <Tom322> ActionParsnip: it sits there
[21:33] <Jordan_U> Tom322: Press any key within the first 5 seconds of seeing that screen to get to the syslinux menu.
[21:33] <dey> does anyone here use a intel hd gpu with 2+ monitors?
[21:34] <Jordan_U> dey: If they did, what question would you ask them next?
[21:34] <dey> Jordan_U: is bezel compensation possible
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> Tom322: guess what that icon means....?
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> Tom322: keyboard equals man
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> Tom322: pressing something on the keyboard brings up the menu to allow human interaction.
[21:37] <Tom322> Jordan_U: ActionParsnip I hit the spacebar and got the menu back...I selected Install Xubuntu...
[21:37] <Tom322> ActionParsnip: Jordan_U it seems to be stuck
[21:37] <Jordan_U> dey: Do you want bezel compensation for a specific application (like a fullscreen game), or for everything?
[21:38] <Jordan_U> Tom322: Did you press a key within 5 seconds, or only after 5 seconds?
[21:39] <Tom322> Jordan_U: before 5 secs
[21:39] <dey> Jordan_U: right now im using a gtx660. im using 2 displays with i3. between the bezels is a virtual gap representing the real gap. The displays act as seperate displays, but if i put any application across all of them, the stuff that would be where the bezels are is simply not visible
[21:40] <Jordan_U> Tom322: Ahh, I see, you are at the menu now. You need to actually add the "radeon.nomodeset=1" kernel parameter that ActionParsnip was talking about before booting.
[21:40] <dey> Jordan_U: i want to know if the same is possible with the intel hd
[21:41] <dey> Jordan_U: to give you an idea how its done via nvidia. you simply draw the two displays away from each other to create a gap as big as you need it to be between them http://www.ismprofessional.net/pascucci/wp-content/uploads/nvidia-settings.png
[21:41] <Tom322> Jordan_U: I'm at the select the language screen
[21:42] <Tom322> Jordan_U: how do i add this radeon.nomodeset=1" kernel parameter?
[21:43] <Tom322> ActionParsnip: I'm at the language screen
[21:45] <Jordan_U> !nomodeset | Tom322
[21:47] <Guido1> I have a hardware question IF i look at the processorspeed at http://ark.intel.com/products/76753/Intel-Celeron-Processor-N2810-1M-Cache-2_00-GHz does it mean that each core has 2 GHz or both together? I heard somethink like that you have to multiply the GHz by the amount of cores.
[21:48] <dey> Guido1: cpus do not HAVE frequencies. They work WITH a given frequency. And yes, all cores work WITH that frequency
[21:49] <dey> or AT.... not sure which one is appropriate　:P
[21:49] <TheEmpath> hai... how do i get my bind9 dns server to stop reaching out to the internet to update itself?
[21:50] <Tom322> ubottu: where do i type it in?
[21:50] <TheEmpath> id just like for it to be a local domain name resolver :D
[21:50] <Mido_KSA> Guido1: yes you have to multiply the GHz by the amount of cores
[21:50] <Guido1> dey: but is the assumption right that a dual core 2 GHz is faster than a mono or is the diference only the stability ore something else?
[21:50] <Guido1> Mido_KSA: thanks
[21:51] <muru> ikonia: So If I were running an apt-cacher, I would have to add both, right?
[21:51] <muru> ActionParsnip: I know they resolve to different places, I figured one could be a mirror of the other.
[21:52] <dey> Guido1: well you COULD say that two cores @2ghz are combined twice as powerful as a cpu using just one of those cores. THis isnt correct in reality, due to cores sharing resources, programs being unable to multithread perfectly etc...
[21:52] <Tom322> ActionParsnip: I'm at the main install screen where do i type in the radeon.nomodeset=1" kernel parameter
[21:54] <Guido1> dey: okee, but it sounds that a dual core 2 GHz is still much better than a single 1,7 GHz and it's already worth considering buying
[21:55] <Jordan_U> dey: It looks like xrandr allows you to create an arbitrarily large "screen" (the total size in pixels of the virtual single display that each output only displays part of), and also allows you to set an arbitrary position for outputs within this screen. Together, those to abilities should allow you to accomplish bezel compensation.
[21:55] <dey> Guido1: ofc. a multicore cpu is better than a single core. Its like having multiple single core cpus!
[21:55] <Jordan_U> dey: Do all your outputs have the same DPI?
[21:55] <dey> Jordan_U: yes, they are all the same
[21:56] <Mido_KSA> dey: is there any program like hotspot shield for ubuntu?
[21:56] <joem86> I'm considering installing Ubuntu on my workstation for the unix tooling. I haven't used it in a while. Is it considered more or less pretty stable (comparable to OS/X) for daily work use?
[21:56] <TuxRescue> guys, what is the difference between the nvidia legacy and binary driver?
[21:56] <dey> Jordan_U: i wonder if nvidia-settings just works as a xrandr gui :/
[21:57] <Guido1> dey: thanks. My laptop is getting a bit slow and now I'm looking for newer one which should be faster and more stable. Are there other things to consider by buying a laptop vor (x)ubuntu? (By my laptop I can't use an external VGA screen with linux)
[21:57] <dey> Guido1: well, i dont think you will even find a solo core notebook anymore. Even the most basic netbooks have multicore cpus iirc.
[21:58] <dey> Mido_KSA: was your message really meant for me?
[21:58] <Jordan_U> dey: I don't have a second monitor to test with at the moment, so I don't know if the standard GUI display settings in gnome-control-center allow you to configure this, but if you were to use the xrandr command you'd be looking at the options --fb widthxheight and --pos xxy .
[21:58] <tgunr> I have a messs on my hands, We had a Ubuntu server running 12.04 who was reporting an initramfs error executing ap-get. One the people said see had corrected the issues and we were putting in a new server in order to back uo it up. Before that could happen one of the techs at the colo hit the power siwtch accidentlly and the box dropped into a initramsfs prompt. I had them install slaxx on a USB stick and can boot from that. I cloned
[21:58] <tgunr>  the main drive and ten put the second drive back in. (There was no data on the second drive) but it was part of a volume group. No matter what I try I get an error about one of the pv volumes missing with ` Couldn't find device with uuid bcG7QT-ShDH-l2qA-pbpw-xAgg-HB9o-VnQbYp.' showing on pvscan and other commands.
[21:58] <dey> Jordan_U: np. if its possible with xrandr im going to figure it out :)
[21:59] <Guido1> dey: the one i use right now is single ... I also mean if there are cores or other hardware which is known to cause trouble with linux. maybe  page where i can check if the components will work
[21:59] <Mido_KSA> dey: yes . i want to know if there is a program for ubuntu like hotspot shield
[22:00] <ritm> can someone help i have mono sound on ubuntu studio
[22:00] <tgunr> I have scoured the net looking for a solution and nothing tried seems to bring back the PV volume, At this point I am running out of ideas and turning to the channel
[22:00] <dey> Guido1: cpus wont cause a problem. CHeck which components the mainboard uses. And if they are compatible with linux. (soundcard, network, etc.)
[22:00] <Tom322> I'm trying to selected any option from the install menu on XUbuntus main install screen, it keeps freezing...
[22:00] <tgm4883> Looking at the trim support in 14.04, since it says that it's only enabled for intel and samsung does that mean that I can manually enable it for my non-intel/samsung SSD if I check the manufacture says that trim is supported, or does it mean that it's only enabled on those because other venors have buggy trim support (even though they say the SSD supports
[22:00] <tgm4883> it)
[22:00] <dey> Mido_KSA: i wouldnt know, i dont even know hotspotshield
[22:01] <ritm> i have mono sound want stereo
[22:01] <Mido_KSA> dey: oh ok. thanks
[22:01] <Symphonym> Consistent lag spikes after 14.04 upgrade  (occurs every ~2 mins and lasts ~10 sec)  which I believe to be because of Wifi driver issues. I'm using "Qualcomm Atheros AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter", any package/driver I can download to hopefully fix the issue? The problem did not exist in 13.10.
[22:01] <Guido1> dey: okee. is there a side where i can se which components of the motherbord are (not)compatieble or do i have to search each part with google?
[22:02] <ritm> i had stereo before
[22:02] <ritm> turned of stereo
[22:02] <ritm> automaticly
[22:03] <ritm> can someone help with mono problem
[22:03] <Mido_KSA> any one knows a vpn program for secure surf ?
[22:03] <bitcoinassassin> Hello. I have an encrypted home drive; nightmare! So, if I just copy (or back up using tar, etc.) the files from my home folder to an external drive, they will be copied without being encrypted, correct?
[22:04] <ritm> i have mono sound want stereo
[22:04] <dey> Guido1: i usually use google. But most mainboards use the same stuff anyways. Intel network, ALC soundcards etc. are usually never a problem. Usually only the expensive 'gamer'stuff causes problems. Special soundcard chips, those KILLER NICs dont work flawlessly either iirc. etc. Stick to the cheaper mainboards and you usually dont have a problem. But i never bought a notebook, i dont know how easy it is to find out which chipsets they used
[22:04] <bitcoinassassin> This is from my computer with the encrypted file mounted during a normal boot.......
[22:04] <Jordan_U> bitcoinassassin: Correct.
[22:04] <bitcoinassassin> Hey Jordan_U
[22:04] <bitcoinassassin> Thanks.
[22:05] <ritm> god damm can someone help me
[22:05] <ritm> dont have stereo sound
[22:05] <dey> Guido1: but im pretty sure that if you check the common notebooks that someone already wrote a bit about the linux compatibility somewhere
[22:05] <ritm> only mono
[22:06] <Guido1> i only know from my laptop that the VGA is not working with linux. The graficcard is something from NVIDA
[22:06] <meek_geek> my update manager says cannot trust sources
[22:06] <ritm> just idiots here gonna search google
[22:06] <bitcoinassassin> meed_geek, my journalism friends say cannot trust sources.....
[22:07] <bitcoinassassin> er, meek
[22:07] <dey> Guido1: did you install the official nvidia drivers? Maybe your card is to old, but nvidia cards usually work well :/
[22:07] <meek_geek> bitcoinassassin, it said so really and would not update anymore
[22:07] <kingbeowolf> how can i find out how many blobs are on my system?
[22:07] <Mido_KSA> Guido1: i have HP Pavilion g6 laptop and it is compatible with linux. i think you have to try searching about HP laptops.
[22:08] <bitcoinassassin> kingbeowolf: what's a blob
[22:08] <abc> :)
[22:08] <kingbeowolf> bitcoinassassin, binary blob is usually a bit of code that makes some hardware work
[22:09] <Guido1> dey: i think so. it's an extra driver
[22:09] <sudormrf> hey guys, I am trying to understand repos a bit better.  I am working on testing something with a group of people.  one person synced a file to a repo, but the repo is not pingable or browseable so I think it won't work at all until he does something on his end...correct?
[22:09] <bitcoinassassin> kingbeowolf: ahh.... thanks.
[22:09] <kingbeowolf> i.e. not open source
[22:09] <bitcoinassassin> oh............ like that
[22:09] <sudormrf> stupid question but I am second guessing myself here.
[22:10] <abc> XD
[22:10] <bitcoinassassin> there are not stupid questions; only stupid people (not you sudormrf); I'm just saying . . .
[22:10] <Guido1> Mido_KSA: In the moment I'm looking at HP and Lenovo and try to find somthing with a QWERTY keyboard below 500, maximal 700€ (I'm a student)
[22:10] <planetmaker> sudormrf, using a repository doesn't mean that the repository is public.
[22:10] <sudormrf> bitcoinassassin, lel
[22:10] <cristobal> guys i connect a hardrive of a laptop to get some information since the laptop died that had windows now i cant umount /media/Drivename    any  suggestions?
[22:10] <sudormrf> planetmaker, hmm.  ok, well I can't ping it, nslookup fails for it...not sure how I can access it in that case
[22:10] <planetmaker> I'd be frightened if every repo on my local machine would be public ;)
[22:11] <kingbeowolf> anyone know how to figure out how many binary blobs are in their kernel?]
[22:11] <sudormrf> planetmaker, any idea how I can sort of force a connection?
[22:11] <TJ-> kingbeowolf: "grep firmware /var/log/dmesg | wc -l"
[22:12] <planetmaker> sudormrf, no. Especially as 'repo' is as general as 'collection of files with version information attached'
[22:12] <sudormrf> planetmaker, that's what I thought
[22:12] <Mido_KSA> Guido1: the one i mentioned is about 600 USD . it is core i7 third generation and 8 GB Ram with AMD radeon 7500 VGA + intel HD VGA ( give it a try and you will like it)
[22:12] <planetmaker> thus it highly depends on what vcs you actually use.
[22:12] <kingbeowolf> TJ-, printed 0
[22:13] <Guido1> Mido_KSA: okee, I will have a look at it thanks
[22:13] <aural> I am having troubles using a mobile scanner Brother DSmobile 620 in a linux environment: http://privatepaste.com/cc1fac2920
[22:13] <lix> dammit. what other alternative to OpenSSL!??
[22:13] <abc> switched from windows to ubuntu and i was like wth .
[22:13] <sudormrf> planetmaker, not sure what he is using on his end
[22:13] <kingbeowolf> TJ-, dmesg doesn't exist in that folder i guess
[22:13] <sudormrf> lix, libressl? but it isn't available yet
[22:14] <lix> sudormf: tnx. - nerver heard.
[22:14] <Tom322> Jordan_U: I typed in radeon.nomodeset=1 at the end of the boot options line....
[22:14] <planetmaker> sudormrf, and without the right client you cannot access it anyway. Unless he configured properly and started a web interface for it
[22:14] <cristobal> Anyone knows how to force umount a device under /media  ?
[22:14] <Tom322> Jordan_U: it freezes...
[22:14] <sudormrf> planetmaker, this is supposed to be an ubuntu repo setup for grabbing files to test their system.  I just figured if I can't ping it and can't get an nslookup it wouldn't work until something was fixed on his end.
[22:15] <sudormrf> he said dns wasn't setup for it yet
[22:15] <TJ-> cristobal: identify why the device is busy first; some process has a file or directory open on it most likely
[22:15] <bitcoinassassin> cristobal, what have you tried
[22:15] <bitcoinassassin> and what type of device is this?
[22:15] <lix> sudormrf: FYI: http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2014/q2/466
[22:15] <cristobal> i connected a hdd from a dead laptop with windows mounted to try to see it with ntfs config but now i cant unmount so everytime i boot the laptop try to look for it :(
[22:16] <cristobal> under /mnt/devicename
[22:16] <lix> m)
[22:16] <sudormrf> lix, ?
[22:16] <sudormrf> cristobal, check fstab?
[22:16] <TJ-> cristobal: how was the file-system mounted (what tool) and how are you trying to umount it, and what error do you get?
[22:17] <naryfa> hi
[22:17] <cristobal> sudo umount /media/ACER     => error said not mounted but when i go manually to the folder i see the ACER
[22:17] <Tom322> can anyone help...I typed in radeon.nomodeset=1 at the end of the boot options line....it freezes...
[22:18] <abc>  ubuntu = (fail)
[22:18] <TJ-> cristobal: Then it isn't mounted ... "/media/ACER" is the *mount point* only ... if a file-system were mounted at that point you'd see files below "/media/ACER/"
[22:19] <Jordan_U> abc: Do you have a support question? If not then this is the wrong channel.
[22:19] <cristobal> yes no files on the folder but cant get the system not to try to mounted on system boot :(
[22:19] <bitcoinassassin> cristobal, unless you added a line to /etc/fstab your linux install will not try to mount that drive ... if it's unplugged.... right?
[22:19] <aural> Has anyone else used any moden/recently released paper scanner hardware components with a linux environment?
[22:20] <TJ-> cristobal: Then you have an entry in "/etc/fstab" for it ... try "cat /etc/fstab" and inspect the file-system table
[22:20] <Jordan_U> aural: Please post your actual question.
[22:20] <xeno_> Say, does anyone here know that the United States has the second largest number of Spanish speakers in the world, after Mexico?  More than Spain?  And yet the default distro does not come configured with ability to write Spanish Characters, nor any clear way to get it set up?
[22:20] <aural> Jordan_U:  I am having troubles using a mobile scanner Brother DSmobile 620 in a linux environment: http://privatepaste.com/cc1fac2920
[22:20] <aural> I posted that a few minutes ago
[22:21] <cristobal> okay found it #Entry for /dev/sdb2  UUID=18AEEED8AEEEAD86	/media/ACER
[22:21] <cristobal> so gedit?
[22:21] <aural> Jordan_U: Besides, that quetion I just asked about if anyone else has used any is also my actual question
[22:21] <sudormrf> cristobal, check /etc/fstab
[22:21] <sudormrf> cristobal, comment out that line
[22:21] <sudormrf> cristobal, then do sudo umount /media/ACER
[22:21] <aural> because, if anyone has success with a different hardware component than the one I have, I can return this one and get the other one
[22:21] <TJ-> cristobal: is the first character a "#" ? if so, that means the line has been commented out
[22:22] <sudormrf> TJ-, I am thinking that may be a note above the actual mount line
[22:22] <TJ-> sudormrf: I think you may be correct :)
[22:22] <sudormrf> cristobal, do this 'cat /etc/fstab > pastebinit'
[22:22] <sudormrf> cristobal, without the quotes
[22:23] <bitcoinassassin> aural, this isn't going to be any help, but my brother dcp-j140w that is supposed to work with Ubuntu ... the printer is fine; the scanner, no... even with the brother/linux software blobs... as people like to say; this *might* be because I have attempting this wirelessly; I have ordered a USB cable and hope to have more luck when that arrives
[22:23] <cristobal> ok
[22:23] <Jordan_U> xeno_: Please keep discussion to actual support questions. If nobody currently awake knows the answer, nobody will answer. You can try Ubuntu Forums, or http://askubuntu.com also, or if you speak spanish well enough to you can ask your question in spanish in #ubuntu-es (they'll be able to understand your question without a '¿' in your message).
[22:23] <TJ-> sudormrf: or just "pastebinit /etc/fstab" :p
[22:23] <xeno_> Thank you Jordan.
[22:23] <aural> bitcoinassassin: mm, I've observed the scame with all-in-one devices which printer functionality works, but scanner functionality does not.
[22:24] <cristobal> sudormrf:  http://pastebin.com/WYvXWmfW
[22:24] <aural> s/scame/same/
[22:24] <bitcoinassassin> aural, is your device plugged or wireless
[22:24] <Jordan_U> xeno_: You're welcome.
[22:24] <aural> bitcoinassassin: usb cable/wired
[22:24] <aural> as can be seen from output of `lsusb`
[22:24] <bitcoinassassin> aural, yes, and there is even a separate brother download that supposedly will allow "one touch scanning" ... again... no luck
[22:25] <bitcoinassassin> I think they need to call it insane
[22:25] <yakiza> i am really going to  make format and put windows back
[22:25] <yakiza>  i need help if someone wont help i will go back to my windows
[22:25] <bitcoinassassin> yakiza, mazeltov
[22:26] <TJ-> aural: I have 2 networked: A4 Samsung CLX-6220FX and A3 HP Officejet 7610
[22:26] <yakiza> what?
[22:26] <bitcoinassassin> TJ- and these scanners work?
[22:26] <yakiza> bitscoinassasin ?
[22:26] <Jordan_U> yakiza: I hope you have a better experience with Windows then.
[22:26] <TJ-> bitcoinassassin: Yes, that's why I responded
[22:26] <bitcoinassassin> TJ-, ok, thanks. just checking. :-) happy and surprised
[22:26] <yakiza>  i cant even istall a program in ubuntu i dont even know when i install somethink where is going
[22:27] <yakiza> in windows you just  select where you want somethink to go here you doint on the terminal and you dont know
[22:27] <yakiza>  and if i want to unistall i cant cause i dont know how
[22:27] <Guest40535> !ubuntu
[22:28] <Guest40535> !flash
[22:28] <Guest40535> !restricted
[22:28] <Jordan_U> yakiza: Please keep discussion to Ubuntu related support questions only.
[22:28] <john_rambo> I installed pclinuxos as dual boot with ubuntu. After reboot I found that there is no entry for Ubuntu in grub ..... Then I use super grub disk to get back into Ubuntu ...I want replace grub legacy (installed by pclinuxos) with Grub2 and add entries for Ubuntu and pclinuxos .....what is the procedure
[22:28] <TJ-> yakiza: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[22:28] <yakiza> fuck you jordan i am like 16 hours on my pc and try to  install a program
[22:29] <cristobal> wow so rude
[22:29] <cristobal> what a lady XD
[22:29] <Guest40535> !virtualbox
[22:29] <bitcoinassassin> cristobal, darn, I always ignore just before the fun begins
[22:30] <yakiza> s
[22:30] <yakiza> is anyone who can help me from skype (share screen)
[22:30] <yakiza> PLEASE
[22:30] <yakiza>  I AM 16 HOURS  to my pc
[22:30] <yakiza>  and i cant do a shit
[22:30] <yakiza> ...
[22:30] <yakiza>  i  turn from windows to ubuntu and now i am   thinking go back to windows
[22:30] <Guest40535> is there any built in virtualbox type software in ubuntu? it used to come with virtualbox i think
[22:31] <Jordan_U> yakiza: Again, please keep comments to productive support discussion.
[22:32] <planetmaker> dusf123, there's a virtualbox package. No not only like, but exactly virtualbox
[22:32] <TJ-> yakiza: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement
[22:32] <Jordan_U> yakiza: If you don't like using Ubuntu that is fine, if Windows is right for you then that's great. It's not OK to clutter the channel with ranting, and certainly not to direct abusive comments at users of this channel.
[22:32] <bitcoinassassin> what is the command please to un-ignore someone in chat? I'm missing all the fun.......
[22:33] <yakiza> i  work on windows a lot of years i want to lern ubuntu but if i want just to install a simple program i dont know where this program is installed
[22:33] <dusf123> planetmaker: i have searched ubuntu software centre for virtualbox but there are no hits
[22:33] <yakiza> and i get all the time  erors
[22:33] <dusf123> yakiza: try the ubuntu software centre in the left hand dock
[22:33] <e^> i see a BOO-PC in "Browse Network", it isn't any of my pc's, is there any way to find out what this pc is doing there in ubuntu or some package? i tried to port scan from 0 to 255 but it didn't show up.
[22:33] <Jordan_U> yakiza: You can use "dpkg -l packagename" to find all of the files that a package installs, or "which command_name" to find where a specific command's binary is installed.
[22:34] <cristobal> yakiza under settings printer ubuntu use something call cups the printer should be listed if not on the website of the printer manufacturer they should have a .deb file double click adn it should open the software store to install the program
[22:34] <planetmaker> hm, interesting it's indeed not listed for trusty, but earlier versions, dusf123 : http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=virtualbox-ose
[22:35] <planetmaker> though... http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/misc/virtualbox
[22:36] <dusf123> planetmaker: thanks
[22:37] <TJ-> planetmaker: 4.2.8-dfsg-0ubuntu1 dropped the need for the -ose transitional packages
[22:39] <e^> how can i get more info about a computer in the "Browse Network" ?
[22:43] <bitcoinassassin> not sure this is the correct place for this, but given truecrypt's recent announcement(s) ... what are people using as an alternative? and... if it's off-topic, .. mea culpa
[22:44] <orst3n> nothing till now but its belived that 7.1a is still save ..
[22:44] <edwin_> yonrails
[22:46] <xeno_> Say, why does this post say System -> Preferences -> Keyboard when my Unity config doesn't seem to sport such a sequence from the GUI?
[22:46] <bitcoinassassin> orst3n, granted, I'm just looking forward.........
[22:46] <xeno_> I see Systems Settings -> Keyboard, but nowhere to go to a preferences inbetween.
[22:46] <bitcoinassassin> sooooooooo many conspiracy theorists out there....
[22:47] <xeno_> Am I not seeing some secondary entry point to "System"?
[22:47] <daftykins> xeno_: could be an older version of ubuntu without Unity, or a different desktop environment entirely
[22:47] <Jordan_U> bitcoinassassin: LUKS, which has IMHO always been a better alternative (Truecrypt has always had severe license issues among other problems).
[22:47] <xeno_> Well, this is the canonical recommentation from what I can see.
[22:47] <cristobal> all setting - details have default applications if thats what you look xeno
[22:47] <xeno_> Is my experience old, or the instructional doc?
[22:47] <TJ-> bitcoinassassin: Some people are picking it up and running with it as a new project, for example the GeekCrypt/FalseCrypt/CipherShed F/OSS project
[22:48] <xeno_> I am on Unity with 14.04.
[22:49] <bitcoinassassin> Jordan_U, Ok, thanks. TJ- as well. I used TrueCrypt partly because I could use it from Windows or Linux; maybe if I knew more I could access LUKS from Windows as well; I don't know. But, am learning.
[22:50] <TJ-> bitcoinassassin: There's been a lot of discussion on the Cryptography mailing-list, and investigations on how we can merge it with dm_crypt/LUKS and others to provide a cross-platform, audited, F/OSS solution
[22:51] <bitcoinassassin> but, yeah, it's licensing and other stuff seemed like a snafu to me....... and those appeals for money where they said "we might take the money and go on vacation" .... seemed a little... odd
[22:51] <TJ-> bitcoinassassin: I've been rebuilding the source-code commit history of TrueCrypt since it was Encryption for the Masses in the late 90's. That will help us audit the code and make some decisions.
[22:51] <TJ-> bitcoinassassin: It is possible to implement the interfaces and formats using brand new, un-encumbered code, with a clean license and audit trail
[22:52] <bitcoinassassin> TJ-, thank you so much for that information. Now I feel REALLY dumb /// j/k... sort of... :-)
[22:52] <bitcoinassassin> I am happy to learn and really appreciate all the help
[22:53] <TJ-> bitcoinassassin: It's possible to use TrueCrypt volumes on Linux already as you know, but what we're investigating is eventually merging the on-disk formats and encryption suites
[22:54] <bitcoinassassin> TJ- is there an irc channel or rss feed for what you are doing? er... and something not completely over my head?
[22:55] <Jordan_U> bitcoinassassin: You can access LUKS volumes with FreeOTFE in Windows, but I wouldn't trust FreeOTFE until it has had a thorough audit, especially after (admittedly very old) things like this message: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/grub-devel/2009-05/msg00082.html
[22:55] <grobe0ba> good evening everyone. i am having some rather annoying problems with upstart.
[22:55] <grobe0ba> i haven't tampered with it any way, no extra scripts of my own. it's unable to see any of the scripts being added by apt-get
[22:55] <grobe0ba> even after initctl reload-configuration, nothing is updated
[22:55] <grobe0ba> i'm currently on 14.04 amd64
[22:55] <grobe0ba> latest updates, etc.
[22:55] <grobe0ba> any ideas?
[22:55] <unopaste> grobe0ba you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[22:55] <TJ-> bitcoinassassin: not as yet, just mailing list and private emails
[22:55] <bitcoinassassin> TJ-, ok, thanks. I'll check that link a gnu.org
[22:56] <welch_> i need help
[22:56] <bitcoinassassin> haha I just read the first line of that post; classic.........
[22:56] <welch_> i need help anybody!!!!
[22:57] <bitcoinassassin> "FreeOTFE has a function which allows reading sectors from a device without authentication"
[22:57] <welch_> bit
[22:57] <bitcoinassassin> welch, yes you need. what kind are you seeking here?
[22:57] <bitcoinassassin> I hate when my brain doesn't connect with my fingers
[22:57] <welch_> how to add ubuntu to your sessons
[22:58] <grobe0ba> i take it your worthless bot has never heard of lag....
[22:58] <bitcoinassassin> grobe0ba: that was a helpful comment.
[22:59] <welch_> bit how do i add ubuntu to my sessions?
[22:59] <bitcoinassassin> welch_, I'm sorry, I don't know/understand
[22:59] <grobe0ba> which one? the part where it muted me because i have a horrible connection and lagged out?
[22:59] <grobe0ba> 'cause so far i've seen nothing addressing my statements
[23:00] <sudormrf> cristobal, sorry I was AFK.  put a # in front of line 10 of your pastebin.  then do sudo umount /media/ACER and restart.  see what happens
[23:00] <grobe0ba> why the hell did ubuntu get rid of sys 5 style init? it at least bloody worked reliably
[23:00] <bitcoinassassin> grobe0ba: and raging against the machine probably won't help. :-)
[23:00] <grobe0ba> bitcoinassassin, fair enough
[23:01] <grobe0ba> but seriously, upstart is killing me.  i've made NO changes to it, and it can't be bothered to function reliably
[23:01] <bitcoinassassin> grobe0ba: and if I knew, I'd help, honest.
[23:01] <welch_> when i log out and click my user, on the bottom it says sessions. how do i add ubuntu 14.04 to it?
[23:01] <grobe0ba> thanks mate. appologies for raging at the bot
[23:01] <sudormrf> cristobal, no PMs please.  keep support stuff in the main room
[23:01] <welch_> bit
[23:02] <welch_> bit i need your help
[23:02] <jimi_> When I am on the gdm login screen, I have loud/normal audio.. when I login to my user, I have very low audio and I can't turn it up, it lists no devices in the configuration.
[23:02] <cristobal> dont worry sudormrf already fixit i forgot toput sudo
[23:02] <cristobal> commented on the fstab # and done
[23:02] <sudormrf> cristobal, nice
[23:02] <TheEmpath> hi.. having a really, really hard time setting up a local DNS server.  IS there anything that simplifies the process?
[23:02] <bitcoinassassin> just for the record, I did that......... helped cristobal... just so people don't think I'm completely worthless ;-)
[23:03] <TheEmpath> currently using bind9, but only one computer on the network sees it
[23:03] <cristobal> hahhaa
[23:03] <cristobal> :)
[23:03] <sudormrf> TheEmpath, welcome to the club.  You should probably be asking in #ubuntu-server thought
[23:03] <TheEmpath> thanks
[23:03] <welch_> bitcoinassassin
[23:03] <grobe0ba> TheEmpath, you sure you updated everyone's DNS settings?
[23:03] <grobe0ba> perhaps your DHCP server?
[23:04] <bitcoinassassin> grobe0ba: your ? is way over my head but I have a rule against upgrading to new systems........ which probably makes me a luddite and whatever but there always seem to be problems that need to be fixed.... I'm sure you know to what I refer
[23:04] <grobe0ba> yeah, sys v init has worked for decades
[23:04] <grobe0ba> i want it back
[23:04] <grobe0ba> none of this cannot find service crap
[23:05] <nikolam> My software updater in 13.10 64bit, just went bananas.
[23:05] <welch_> bitcoin
[23:05] <bitcoinassassin> ?
[23:05] <bitcoinassassin> you rang?
[23:05] <welch_> when i log out and click my user, on the bottom it says sessions. how do i add ubuntu 14.04 to it?
[23:05] <dusf123> !truecrypt
[23:05] <cristobal> nikolam you should upddate to 14.04
[23:05] <nikolam> It displays just window manager and one grey line
[23:05] <Jordan_U> grobe0ba: Could you give an example command that fails but shouldn't? For example, "sudo service apache2 restart" ?
[23:05] <grobe0ba> vsftpd, in this instance
[23:06] <bitcoinassassin> nikolam, I liked it better when you left it at "just went bananas" ..... that was awesome :-)
[23:06] <grobe0ba> Unknown service for any variety of issuance
[23:06] <nikolam> cristobal, I know, I know, but it is still supported, right. And I can not afford any breakage, because I need this machine for work
[23:06] <welch_> can abybody help me with this
[23:06] <grobe0ba> i've run initctl reload-configuration several times
[23:06] <welch_> when i log out and click my user, on the bottom it says sessions. how do i add ubuntu 14.04 to it?
[23:06] <nikolam> thnaks bitcoinassassin :P
[23:06] <Jordan_U> grobe0ba: Please give an exact command and its exact output, if that's more than one line please use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com .
[23:06] <grobe0ba> sudo service vsftpd status  . or start, or restart
[23:06] <yosry> hey i get this when nstalling mp3 plugins
[23:06] <yosry>  http://pastebin.com/Beh7ac6s
[23:06] <bitcoinassassin> welch_, well, what are you logging into now?
[23:07] <grobe0ba> ANY command given results in it returning Unknown job
[23:07] <cristobal> nikolam end of life date its July 2014
[23:07] <bifix> part
[23:07] <nikolam> for 13.10? cristobal huh didn't know it.
[23:07] <bitcoinassassin> welch_: as in what version of ubuntu?
[23:07] <cristobal> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[23:08] <welch_> i have xbuntu
[23:08] <welch_> it came with my computer
[23:08] <Jordan_U> grobe0ba: Please pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy vsftpd".
[23:09] <grobe0ba> sudo initctl check-config /etc/init/vsftpd.conf  or just check-config vsftpd   both return Invalid job class
[23:09] <welch_> i want to add ubuntu 14.04
[23:09] <bitcoinassassin> welch_: and if I wasn't busy backing up my freaking encrypted home file (now backing up /home/user/Audio/Frogs with frog calls I recorded this spring) I'd sign out and see for myself
[23:09] <grobe0ba> Jordan_U, rgr, w1
[23:09] <bitcoinassassin> welch_, have you actually installed ubuntu 14.04?
[23:09] <welch_> no that why i need help
[23:10] <Jordan_U> welch_: "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" will install all of the packages in a default Ubuntu installation.
[23:10] <bitcoinassassin> welch_: and now we get to it..... lol
[23:10] <grobe0ba> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7597998/
[23:10] <welch_> i don't want to delete anything on this computer
[23:10] <Hoolean> Hey guys, please direct me elsewhere if this is not relevant. I'm getting >600 wakeups a second when viewing on powertop; I discovered this after noticing my battery life was worse on ubuntu than on windows. What should I do to improve this?
[23:11] <Hoolean> It was >1000 before also
[23:11] <Jordan_U> Hoolean: What suggestions does powertop give?
[23:11] <SilverSlimer> hey guys
[23:11] <welch_> if i install this will it delete anything
[23:11] <Jordan_U> welch_: No.
[23:12] <Hoolean> Hey Jordan_U: I enabled the tunables that were set to "bad" if that is what you mean
[23:12] <welch_> it will keep everything
[23:12] <Jordan_U> welch_: Correct.
[23:12] <welch_> ok
[23:12] <larrypg> welch_, which version are you using ? lsb _release -a...
[23:12] <bitcoinassassin> welch_, to be clear, you want to install ubuntu 14.04 instead of xbuntu 14.04, is this correct?
[23:13] <bitcoinassassin> I mean and not xbuntu 14.04
[23:13] <welch_> no i want to add ubuntu to my sessiond
[23:13] <welch_> sessions
[23:14] <cristobal> ̣
[23:14] <bitcoinassassin> welch_: as larrypg asked, which version are you using?
[23:14] <bitcoinassassin> i think you said xbuntu 12..........
[23:14] <grobe0ba> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7597998/
[23:15] <yosry> need help wz this
[23:15] <yosry> http://pastebin.com/Beh7ac6s
[23:15] <Jordan_U> grobe0ba: I don't know. Try asking in #upstart.
[23:15] <grobe0ba> Jordan_U, rgr. thx
[23:15] <Jordan_U> grobe0ba: You're welcome.
[23:16] <bitcoinassassin> yosry: do you have a version of synaptic running at the same time? if so, close that.
[23:16] <bitcoinassassin> yosry, or another package manager instance
[23:16] <buck1> is there a way to get file(1) to tell me a mime type of text/x-python for python scripts?
[23:17] <Jordan_U> buck1: What is your end goal?
[23:17] <samthewildone> how can I view pdf files in web with chromium and how can I get java plugins to work with chromium ?
[23:17] <buck1> Jordan_U: i'd like to let people configure my system with mime types, and match python files as such
[23:17] <daftykins> samthewildone: there are plenty of guides online, after installing say, oracle java - that show how to symlink the plugin into the right folder.
[23:18] <yosry> help wz this
[23:18] <yosry> http://pastebin.com/Beh7ac6s
[23:18] <Hoolean> Jordan_U: any ideas what it may be? :)
[23:18] <m1dnight_> No Ãmore default sounds for alarm-clck-applet. Can anyone with ubuntu < 14.04 try?
[23:18] <samthewildone> daftykins, thats just the problem
[23:18] <m1dnight_> It used to have 4 .ogg files as default sounds
[23:18] <m1dnight_> but it seems to have none, now
[23:18] <samthewildone> daftykins, I follow all those guides and not one has work...
[23:18] <buck1> yosry: killall apt-get
[23:19] <samthewildone> You think I have time to waste looking at guides, i've got work to do...
[23:19] <samthewildone> thats why I can into the chat...
[23:19] <yosry> buck1: am trying now
[23:19] <Loshki> yosry: something else is running that uses the package system e.g. update-manager. ps -ax to see if you can spot it
[23:19] <buck1> yosry: fuser -v /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[23:20] <daftykins> samthewildone: what often happens, is people follow the guides 100% precisely, but you might actually have a newer java installed and so the file and folder paths are wrong
[23:20] <buck1> Loshki: a better way to "spot it" ^
[23:20] <daftykins> samthewildone: also, chrome may be in another path than the one being used
[23:20] <Loshki> buck1: agreed, fuser is better
[23:20] <yosry> buck1:  fuser -v /var/cache/apt/archives/lock spots nothing
[23:20] <Loshki> buck1: unless...
[23:20] <buck1> yosry: it's possible the killall fixed the situation. try again
[23:20] <daftykins> samthewildone: find the "ln -s ..." command in a guide and instead of pasting it, type out the path and use tab complete to find paths which actually exist.
[23:21] <m1dnight_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/12584/why-doesnt-chromium-have-chrome-pdf-viewer-plugin/12587#12587
[23:22] <m1dnight_> what is so timeconsuming about this answer?
[23:23] <m1dnight_> samthewildone:
[23:23] <yosry> buck1:  thx alot all done
[23:23] <m1dnight_> Chromium now have a pdf viewer on chrome store based on pdf.js that works like a charm. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/pdf-viewer/oemmndcbldboiebfnladdacbdfmadadm
[23:23] <m1dnight_> tried it. it works.
[23:23] <buck1> yosry: somehow you had an apt-get running in the background
[23:23] <buck1> holding the lock
[23:24] <yosry> buck1: i tried to spot it but no luck with that
[23:24] <buck1> yosry: i assume it was bc the killall killed it before you ran fuser
[23:25] <mjuszczak> Have a question.  I've set chmod 777 /etc/ssl/private (just for testing) and as a non-root user, I can't ls -al the contents.  Any thoughts?
[23:26] <yosry> buck1: i got this now http://pastebin.com/3rLayLF7
[23:26] <SilverSlimer> hey polish guy
[23:26] <m1dnight_> mjuszczak: what happens when you 'll' the /etc/ssl/ directory?
[23:26] <yosry> buck1:  after installing ubuntu restrickted extra
[23:26] <m1dnight_> can you see the perms  are actually set?
[23:26] <buck1> mjuszczak: ls is often about th edirectory permissions, not the file permissions
[23:26] <Jordan_U> mjuszczak: Likely apparmor is preventing access.
[23:26] <nikolam> Fresh news from me, it was actually installing updates in background and pulled requester: "the computer needs to restart to finish installing updates , requester bitcoinassassin
[23:27] <buck1> mjuszczak: ls -ld /etc/ssl/
[23:27] <nikolam> so just fine, i supose.
[23:27] <buck1> mjuszczak: i hope you understand that making that stuff world readable/wriatable is a Bad Idea
[23:27] <mjuszczak> ll returns: drwxrwxrwx  2 root root  4096 Jun  4 16:52 private/
[23:28] <buck1> mjuszczak: then you haven't run the command: ls -ld /etc/ssl/
[23:28] <mjuszczak> buck1: This is just for testing - I'm in a dev container.  Trying to figure out why OpenlDAP can't read the key inside /etc/ssl/private even though I've made it owned by root:ssl-cert and openldap is part of the ssl-cert user.
[23:28] <Jordan_U> mjuszczak: Check OpenLDAP's Apparmor profile.
[23:28] <samthewildone> This is annoying.
[23:29] <buck1> samthewildone: "this"
[23:29] <mjuszczak> buck1: that returns drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 Jun  4 16:52 /etc/ssl/
[23:29] <buck1> seems accessible. shrug. I'd guess apparmor.
[23:29]  * samthewildone snaps buck1's neck
[23:29] <mjuszczak> apparmor: unrecognized service
[23:30] <mjuszczak> (when I try service apparmor shutdown)
[23:30] <m1dnight_> got it working, samthewildone ?
[23:30] <daftykins> midnight_: i sense a direct hand-holding is being requested
[23:30] <bitcoinassassin> daftykins: haha..... nice
[23:31] <samthewildone> nope
[23:31] <m1dnight_> derp, it's a plugin
[23:31] <m1dnight_> how can a plugin not work
[23:31] <samthewildone> looks like i have to do more
[23:31] <buck1> samthewildone: strace -e file may help pinpoint the issue
[23:31] <Jordan_U> mjuszczak: Check the Apparmor profile in /etc/apparmor.d/ .
[23:31] <samthewildone> look some websites work with the java and so don't
[23:31] <daftykins> midnight_: it does not automatically place itself within browsers added by the user
[23:32] <daftykins> samthewildone: so oracle java *does* show up in chrome's extensions/plugins page?
[23:32] <daftykins> (assuming you installed oracle java... please say if you didn't)
[23:32] <larrypg> mjuszczak, ufw instead of apparmor? no idea just a thought
[23:32] <Jordan_U> larrypg: mjuszczak: ufw is completely unrelated to local file access.
[23:34] <samthewildone> http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w185/samthewildone/not_loading_zps5ff7fe41.png
[23:35] <samthewildone> ^ not loading the java
[23:36] <samthewildone> In the past 3 hours I've been playing around trying to figure of this.
[23:36] <mjuszczak> Jordan_U: There happens to be a profile in there for usr.sbin.slapd, which is the service I'm trying to get to be able to read that darn file, but nothing in there for the openldap user.
[23:36] <samthewildone> I thought everything would had been managed by the software installer...
[23:36] <daftykins> samthewildone: 2 things: 1) that's chromium 2) that's not the plugins/extensions page
[23:37] <daftykins> samthewildone: please check whether it's showing the java or not
[23:37] <samthewildone> well I went back to chromium because the google-stable ain't working either
[23:37] <SilverSlimer> it just dawned on me that ubuntu becomes one hell of a gaming os if one installs burger space
[23:37] <vilambit> burger space?
[23:37] <Jordan_U> mjuszczak: Please pastebin the profile for slapd.
[23:37] <m1dnight_> ^
[23:37] <m1dnight_> what is burger space
[23:37] <samthewildone> daftykins, only thing I got on chromium is "chromoting viewer + adobe flash"
[23:38] <m1dnight_> I found about a burger that was sent into space
[23:38] <samthewildone> no other plugins present
[23:38] <m1dnight_> but that's it
[23:38] <buck1> this is less than desirable http://paste.pound-python.org/show/BaUBAc9Z2CX2exDRwNpD/
[23:38] <basheer> hello
[23:38] <basheer> ##
[23:38] <SilverSlimer> m1dnight_, the most graphically-intensive game ever
[23:39] <m1dnight_> hmm
[23:39] <daftykins> samthewildone: ok so you need to symlink the plugin to the correct path as i mentioned above
[23:39] <m1dnight_> to watch another episode of xmen tas, or not to watch an episode of xmen tas
[23:39] <daftykins> samthewildone: what does "which chromium" or "which chromium-browser" in a terminal output? something in /opt ?
[23:39] <samthewildone> this is what happens when I abandon linux for windows...
[23:40] <m1dnight_> can you give ma a site that requires java, samthewildone ?
[23:40] <m1dnight_> i want to check
[23:40] <m1dnight_> im on a fresh install, since today
[23:40] <samthewildone> www.oanda.com
[23:40] <buck1> m1dnight_: http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?detect=jre
[23:40] <samthewildone> yum chromium does not take it
[23:40] <samthewildone> even though I have java installed.
[23:40] <linux_> hello
[23:41] <daftykins> samthewildone: yum is redhat and fedora, NOT ubuntu...
[23:41] <buck1> linux_: and may the greetings be considered reciprocal
[23:41] <samthewildone> "/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/java"
[23:41] <SilverSlimer> fedora's great if you need the latest software but that's about it
[23:41] <andyland> Howdy night crawlers. I’m currently running the GParted live cd trying to repair a ext4 partition.The partition is on 2TB and it’s been running for a while now. I’m by no means an expert at GParted, and was wondering if anyone here knows how I can get a more thorough status report on how the progress is going?
[23:41] <daftykins> samthewildone: so have you run my 'which' commands yet?
[23:41] <samthewildone> daftykins, do you recommend i remove chromium and install google-stable ?
[23:42] <linux_> guys could somebody help me resolve problems in Ubuntu 12.04  system running on low graphics, unable to boot
[23:42] <buck1> samthewildone: google-stable also does not include java
[23:42] <samthewildone> daftykins, can you reprint please
[23:42] <daftykins> samthewildone: java working has nothing to do with that.
[23:42] <samthewildone> i know
[23:42] <daftykins> samthewildone: no, it's just above... scroll up
[23:44] <bitcoinassassin> ciao bella
[23:45] <mjuszczak> so what else other than apparmor can not let me run ls -al on a directory that is 777?
[23:47] <ecod3> hello everyone
[23:47] <ecod3> any free vpn certificates?
[23:48] <daftykins> ecod3: just make your own and self-sign it, if it's only going to be you using it
[23:48] <m1dnight_> andyland: I just had soemthing similar. I started up gptd and it kept scanning.
[23:48] <m1dnight_> I disconnected a broken external drive and it worked fine.
[23:49] <m1dnight_> try disconnecting your drives
[23:49] <m1dnight_> (except the one you need)
[23:50] <ecod3> daftykins, I am little bit new in this. Any link with a tutorial for dummies?
[23:50] <daftykins> ecod3: i would only be googling, so you could cut out the middle man :)
[23:50] <daftykins> actually...
[23:50] <daftykins> !vpn
[23:50]  * samthewildone looks for an exit strategy 
[23:51] <Jordan_U> mjuszczak: Please pastebin the output of "strace ls /etc/ssl/".
[23:51] <bugcy013> Hi am trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 server edition which has 3TB Harddrive
[23:51] <daftykins> samthewildone: i have told you how to solve it and i have given you a command to start helping - you have followed neither, so i'm afraid that that's it
[23:51] <daftykins> samthewildone: also, i hope that wasn't your real name, email and phone #
[23:51] <m1dnight_> lets call it
[23:52] <m1dnight_> \o/
[23:52] <andyland> m1dnight_: Thanks, I might give that a try, I’ll just let it keep running now since it’s already started.
[23:52] <m1dnight_> well
[23:52] <m1dnight_> try one thing though
[23:52] <bugcy013> When the installer starts it says that Error: partition table requires a separate partition for boot loader code
[23:52] <m1dnight_> kill the process
[23:52] <m1dnight_> run it again via terminal
[23:52] <m1dnight_> 'sudo gparted'
[23:52] <bugcy013> I have configured RAID1 in LSI card
[23:52] <m1dnight_> oh
[23:52] <Jordan_U> bugcy013: Is this machine BIOS based or UEFI based?
[23:53] <m1dnight_> andyland: ^, you might get more output there
[23:53] <bugcy013> Jordan_U not sure what it means
[23:53] <freeroute> sup everyone, I'm just casually dropping in to remind you to update your Ubuntu because of the recent GnuTLS and OpenSSL (critical) vulnerabilities :)
[23:54] <mjuszczak> Jordan_U: As root or as the openldap user?
[23:54] <bugcy013> When it was in JBOD before configuring it to RAID, I had no issues installing
[23:54] <OerHeks> 3.13.029
[23:54] <Jordan_U> mjuszczak: As the openldap user.
[23:55] <Jordan_U> bugcy013: What motherboard or server model is this?
[23:56] <bugcy013> It has super micro and has UEFI Shell on it
[23:57] <daftykins> bugcy013: you need to load a driver module for the LSI controller cards to allow them to see the RAID volume
[23:57] <shaddowed> anyone noticed that rhythmbox idles at 1-2% cpu use (not playing or anything)
[23:58] <bugcy013> daftykins: it sees the drive but it says that it requires a separate partition for boot loader