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xubuntu981Hello I have a problem with WINE it is all messed up after an softwre update00:14
factotumxubuntu981: just a heads up, if you don't find the answer here, go to #wine and they can help you out00:18
xubuntu097hello01:40
xubuntu561hi there!01:59
SonikkuAmericaYo01:59
xubuntu561do anyone knows ho to fix the problem with grub after installing Xuuntu 14.04?02:00
SonikkuAmericaWhat GRUB problem?02:01
xubuntu561I have a vaio laptop and used to have dual boot installation, windows 8 and xubuntu 13.0402:02
xubuntu561but after installing xubuntu 14.04 (I re-formated the previous 13.04 partition and put the newly xubuntu 14.04) I got "error: symbol 'grub_term_highlight_color' not found" and I cannot enter any operating system02:04
xubuntu561:(02:04
xubuntu561I tried boot-repair program from a live cd, however that did not work02:06
holsteinxubuntu561: worked here, fine02:17
holsteinxubuntu561: how many hard drives are in the machine?02:17
holsteinxubuntu561: are you certain you are restoring/installing grub to the expected and proper location? are you certain the drive is functioning properly? and testing OK?02:18
xubuntu561holstein: one physical drive02:18
holsteinxubuntu561: and, you are installing to where? the "superblock"?02:18
xubuntu561holstein: first try I told xubuntu installer to put it into sda no partition specified02:19
xubuntu561holstein: now I am trying to reinstall xubuntu putting grub on sda3 UEFI partition02:20
holsteinxubuntu561: ok.. that works from me in the *exact* scenario you outlined02:20
xubuntu561holstein: is this logical to do?02:20
holsteinxubuntu561: no need to reinstall xubuntu02:20
holstein!uefi02:20
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI02:20
holsteinxubuntu561: thats going to be the issue..02:20
holsteini do not have uefi here02:20
xubuntu561let's see if this fix the problem02:23
nbros652I am trying to encrypt a home directory post-setup using the ecryptfs-migrate-home command. The migration goes successfully, and I can su into user's account from a terminal, but I can't log in from the graphical login window. Any thoughts?02:29
nbros652If I su from a terminal first, the encrypted directory is mounted and then I am able to log in from lightdm. Obviously, I do not want to log in from the terminal every time before logging into lightdm.02:31
nbros652has anyone here used the ecryptfs-migrate-home command?02:51
PoppaVicwell, after getting the flash stick to boot, and waiting thru a ton of install-time - the asus refuses to boot grub/xubuntu. And, it looks like there is no way to aim it at the partitions and run them02:52
holsteinPoppaVic: aim it?02:52
holstein!uefi02:52
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI02:52
holsteinPoppaVic: is that relevant? ^02:52
holsteinmight be the hardware is failing as well.. the install time is not a "ton" here02:53
PoppaVicyeah, and I been reading it all afternoon - well, there and elsewhere. The stik-boot worked; the repartition worked - just naming stuff I set from doze - but rebooting won't run grub or any other manager unless I F2 into the boot setup and then only doze is there02:54
holsteinPoppaVic: rebooting doesnt gurantee running grub02:55
holsteinPoppaVic: not sure what you mean by "f2".. you mean, if you select the proper drive in the bios?02:55
PoppaVicthe only drive shown in the bios (once installed) is the DVD (empty) and the windows/hdd - so, no idea who to flog to get the grub partition to show02:56
holsteinPoppaVic: you said it shows? correct?02:57
holsteinPoppaVic: you can make grub work in the f2 menu?02:57
PoppaVicit shows the choice for an empty dvd drive and the default drive. ANd, no - it never shows under the F2 bios menu that I've added anything02:57
PoppaVicSo, it's back to the drawing board on this.. Although, I am amused that the old toshiba drive - popped into a portable shell - booted right up in the linux I was running about 5 months ago.02:59
holsteinPoppaVic: the dvd drive is just that, friend.. empty, correct? if so, dont bother with it, or enabling the booting of it.. you can igrnore or disable it02:59
PoppaVic(so it can definitely tell a usb device is bootable and runs, but it doesn't want to notice the partition changes on the win8 drive - and yes, I hate win8)02:59
holsteinPoppaVic: you say "unless i F2 into the boot setup"03:00
holsteinPoppaVic: what does that mean?03:00
PoppaVicholstein: As now set, the bios refuses to boot to the installed hdd unless I go thru F2 and PICK the win8 boot. Oddly, it'll snap up the usb drives and run right along.03:00
holsteinPoppaVic: ok.. so whats the issue? then?03:01
holsteinPoppaVic: sounds like thats a nice work around for hardware that has specifically tried to prevent you from doing what you are doing03:01
nbros652has anyone here used the ecryptfs-migrate-home command?03:02
holsteinnbros652: no03:02
PoppaVicthe issue is that installing to the win8 drive - in a new partition is useless and unreachable. Yes, I can fake it for awhile like this, but it's only temporary and cludge. If I can't get it to work right, I suppose it's best to get the money back on this machine03:02
holsteinnbros652: just ask, and be patient.. try the #ubuntu channel03:02
nbros652holstein: I would, but everything is working as intended on ubuntu03:03
holsteinPoppaVic: sure, but you were specficically blocked from doing so03:03
holsteinnbros652: not sure what your question is ,then.. your issue is with xubuntu specifically?03:04
PoppaVicYeah. I'm just _presuming_ that there is something I am not seeing - or the install is not seeing - to get the installed partition to bootload.03:04
nbros652holstein: home directories encrypted after setup won't allow login from lightdm on xubuntu03:04
holsteinnbros652: ask in #ubuntu03:05
holsteinnbros652: xubuntu *is* ubuntu.. and more folks are there who may or may not share your issue03:05
nbros652holstein: the problem doesn't exist in ubuntu03:05
PoppaVicholstein: I'll give that url a read - prolly more useful than google of late03:06
holsteinnbros652: what do you mean, friend? are you using xubuntu?03:07
holsteinnbros652: xubuntu *is* ubuntu.. so, if you are having an issue in xubuntu, that *is* an issue in ubuntu03:07
nbros652holstein: I've tried it in both. It works in Ubuntu but not Xubuntu.03:07
holsteinnbros652: ok.. xubuntu *is* ubuntu. so whats the issue?03:09
holsteinnbros652: are you comparing xubuntu 14.04 with ubuntu 13.10?03:09
nbros652holstein: I'm guessing the issue has something to do with a difference in the graphical login somewhere. Logging in from the terminal works just fine on both.03:10
nbros652holstein: 14.04 on both03:10
holsteinnbros652: then change that, and confirm03:10
nbros652holstein: Change it how?03:11
holsteinnbros652: i would change to the one that works03:11
nbros652holstein: the login? Aren't they both running lightdm?03:12
holsteinnbros652: are they?03:12
holsteinnbros652: if they are, then they are the same.. and that shouldnt be the difference03:12
nbros652holstein: I think that's what they both run by default.03:14
holsteinnbros652: then, thats not the difference03:15
nbros652holstein: on attemped login to the account that has been encrypted, the screen goes black and then comes right back to the login screen. I presume this is because the encrypted home directory is not automatically mounted. Any idea where this might take place in Xubuntu during the login process?03:17
nbros652holstein: never mind, I'll keep messing with it or just reconfigure a whole new account that is encrypted from the start.03:26
nbros652holstein: workable solution... backup user directory. Delete user. Recreate user with encrypted home during creating. Mount encrypted user new home and dump old home directory into it.03:52
Guest74016Hello.04:20
Guest74016Anybody here. I need some help.04:20
Guest74016Hello? Anybody here? Why is this channel look so deserted? Linux Mint used to have people talking all over this place........... :(04:24
Unit193This is a support channel, so not a lot of people needing help, it's also night.  People can't help you if you don't ask your question.04:25
Guest74016Hey! So.... my problem is this: Removable drives and media not automatically mounted/listed04:30
Guest74016sorry I was away for a while04:31
Guest74016and I looked in the website and it says the bug is already fixed. I am just wondering how can i download and apply the fix......04:31
Guest74016Here's the link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar-volman/+bug/121089804:32
ubottuUbuntu bug 1210898 in Thunar Volume Manager "Removable drives and media not automatically mounted/listed" [Medium,Confirmed]04:32
Guest74016yeah bro. How can I get the fix on my computer?04:33
Guest74016Manual mounting sucks.04:33
Unit193Guest74016: Did you use the software updater to update thunar-volman?  Is thunar running?04:38
Guest74016I don't really know bro..... I did an update from the terminal last night. But it was not working after boot either.04:39
Guest74016I'm a noob at this......04:40
holsteinGuest74016: in a terminal.. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:40
Guest74016Just a sec bro. Let me open that computer. I'm using another one.04:40
Guest74016Thanks in advance for putting up with my stupidity.04:41
asdf__Okay. So I am the Guest74016 guy04:50
asdf__So.... will that code download the bug fix holstein bro?04:50
asdf__nah bro. I did that and nothing has changed. Do I need to reboot?04:51
asdf__hello?04:52
asdf__I'm probably just talking to myself here....... :(04:59
programmingnewbihi guy06:00
programmingnewbiguys06:01
programmingnewbiI have two screens one with 1920x1200 resolution and one with 1280x102406:01
programmingnewbi@ the login prompt in Xubuntu I get a lower resolution than 1920x1200 with my 24" Monitor how I can solve it that all two monitors have the correct resolution @ the login screen?06:02
Guido1hello, i get a message that i don't have enough RAM to send an error report, but the latop should have 2 or 4 GB. SO my idea is that one RAM is broken. Is there a comand to chek this and to see the other haardware propertys (processor, processor spead etc.)06:46
well_laid_lawnGuido1:  try   lshw06:48
well_laid_lawnthere's   free-m   to check vqilqble memory06:48
well_laid_lawnthere's   free-m   to check available memory06:48
Guido1the comand ishw and free-m are not found06:49
koegsit is lswh not ishw and "free -m" or "free -h"06:50
well_laid_lawnel es hach double u06:51
Guido1koegs: same - command not found06:52
Guido1suddanly it worked07:12
elfyGuido1: that message usually appears when it's trying to create the error report, did it actually say RAM or free memory?07:16
Guido1elfy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7592994/07:17
elfyvery nice - none of that answers my question though :)07:18
Guido1elfy: the table is the outcome from free -m07:19
elfyI know what it is - I don't think that the issue you have is anything to do with RAM - hence the question07:23
elfythe laptop has 2Gb by the way07:24
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skippezothey, looking for some help with kwin in xfce14:34
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ramiroHi, how do I enable events sounds? I'm using 14.0417:03
starratslike what kind of event?17:05
ramirofor example loging in and loging out17:05
mmazing /join #c17:08
mmazingoops :)17:08
starratsramiro go to settings manager > system > session/startup, see if you sound indicator has been checked, it's about the 4th one down17:13
ramiroI see it17:16
ramiroI'll give it a try starrats17:18
starratsokay17:18
ramiroI checked it already but is not working. Also I saw another path this is settings>appearance>settings>Event sounds>Enable event sounds I checked that already too but hovering over it, it says that requires "canberra" support.17:34
adeebnqohello, my desktop just went blank. It is blaca and right clicking shows nothing. i use xubuntu 12.1017:35
adeebnqo*black. please help17:35
deshipuadeebnqo: try this: press alt+f2 and type xfce4-desktop17:39
deshiputhen press enter17:39
HaggardMy search fu has failed me. I'm using 14.04 and loaded libreoffice 4.2. It loaded itself into memory. Whenever I kill it, it respawns. It's not loaded as a service. How can I perma kill it?17:42
adeebnqodeshipu: it's not found17:43
adeebnqolemme try and reinstall xfce17:43
ramiroDoes anyone know how to get canberra working on 14.0417:44
deshipuadeebnqo: what did you do just before it broke?17:44
adeebnqonothing, i have been using cinnamon for the past six months. i might have removed accidentally removed packages.17:45
adeebnqo_deshipu: turns out it's 'xfdesktop' and not xfce4-desktop what i was looking for17:54
novo123Hi18:02
novo123I've got a question..18:02
novo123..how can I move files between 2 folders18:03
novo123?18:03
deshipuadeebnqo_: aah, sorry18:06
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pratzI installed 14.04 few days back , now on the system is hanged on grub screen18:31
pratzeven the keyboard is hanged and I can not do any activity18:31
pratzcan any one help on this ?18:32
owslaDoes anyone know if the new xfce is still causing screen blanking? I think its a conflict with power management.19:03
ubuntuboxhello, I am getting 2 "experienced an internal error" during login, I checked in /var/crash and found its because if virtualbox and mousepad, so I removed virtualbox but still getting the same thing, its 14.0419:24
skribblezatchaits not hindering you from booting up and getting to your desktop though right ubuntubox?19:42
ubuntuboxskribblezatcha, not really19:42
skribblezatchathen dont even worry about it. its a kernel thing with vbox..since virtualbox is in the kernel..the headers and stuff. so you dont have to worry about that.19:43
skribblezatchayou will see it as you boot though.19:43
ubuntuboxskribblezatcha, virtualbox is in kernel by default?19:44
skribblezatchain fact, if you use vbox you can reinstall it and you will be fine.19:44
skribblezatchayes ubuntubox, well the drivers for it are..sorta.19:44
ubuntuboxskribblezatcha, oh, installing virtualbox was not a good idea, qemu works well19:45
skribblezatchathats cool. i use vbox though..its more for me.19:45
ubuntuboxskribblezatcha, I am not sure about Virtualbox's licenses... doesn't look open source anymore19:46
skribblezatchai dont know if it is at the moment or not ubuntubox, thats something that you would have to look in to.19:47
ubuntuboxskribblezatcha, is there any special command for removing crash files or I should just delete them?19:51
skribblezatchacrash files located where ubuntubox?19:52
ubuntuboxskribblezatcha, as I have said earlier in /var/crash19:52
ubuntuboxskribblezatcha, those are Apport crash actually19:54
skribblezatchaso /var/apport/crash?19:55
ubuntuboxskribblezatcha, no /var/crash19:55
skribblezatchaok, well if you want to delete them go ahead ubuntubox, i dont think that it will cause an issue. they will just be remade if it keeps getting the same error.19:56
ubuntuboxskribblezatcha, oh ok, I have to log out for checking that19:57
skribblezatchago for it ubuntubox.19:58
xubuntu070Can i ask a question here?19:59
xubuntu070I need some help19:59
xubuntu070is anyone here?20:01
elfy!ask20:03
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience20:03
xubuntu070I'm trying to install XUbuntu 14.04 on a DL360 G4, it's older hardware, I had it get to the "Install" page once but have not been able to get back to it since, it gets stuck on a black page with a keyboard=and a person in a circle page...20:05
xubuntu070if i launch it from a laptop or another piece of hardware it works...20:06
xubuntu070is 14.04 too new...20:06
xubuntu070can someone confirm my question is visible...20:25
Noskcajxubuntu070, it's visible20:33
Noskcajjust no one seems to know the answer20:33
xubuntu616heya. question about fstab/gparted/gnome-disks20:35
xubuntu616What was the reasoning behind removing either of those utilities from xubuntu 14.04?20:35
Aurvandillhello everyone20:36
xubuntu616Hi20:37
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KupersteinIs anyone actually here? or is everyone AFK20:37
NoskcajKuperstein, It's not a huge channel20:38
NoskcajSometimes #ubuntu is a better place to ask20:38
elfyKuperstein: fstab is a system file - not removed, gparted hasn't been part of a default install as long as I've used it, neither gnome-disks20:39
knomeNoskcaj, sometimes, but they might be get redirected back here since that was a clearly xubuntu-specific question20:47
Aurvandillgood bye and have a nice day :)21:01
tgm4883Just updated to 14.04 and I noticed that the startup screen (plymouth?) looks great even when using proprietary drivers. I'm trying to track down what I might need to look at to get ours (Mythbuntu) to look great too. As it stands, when using nvidia's proprietary drivers on Mythbuntu, plymouth falls back to a text only startup screen21:13
knometgm4883, join us at #xubuntu-devel :)21:14
tgm4883knome: will do, thanks21:14
Unit193tgm4883: What's in /etc/default/grub ?21:14
Guido1I have a hardware question IF i look at the processorspeed at http://ark.intel.com/products/76753/Intel-Celeron-Processor-N2810-1M-Cache-2_00-GHz does it mean that each core has 2 GHz or both together? I heard somethink like that you have to multiply the GHz by the amount of cores.21:47
meek_geekmy update manager says cannot trust sources22:06
Pwnnadoes anyone know where the xfce4-panel layout config is?23:45

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