[00:14] <xubuntu981> Hello I have a problem with WINE it is all messed up after an softwre update
[00:18] <factotum> xubuntu981: just a heads up, if you don't find the answer here, go to #wine and they can help you out
[01:40] <xubuntu097> hello
[01:59] <xubuntu561> hi there!
[01:59] <SonikkuAmerica> Yo
[02:00] <xubuntu561> do anyone knows ho to fix the problem with grub after installing Xuuntu 14.04?
[02:01] <SonikkuAmerica> What GRUB problem?
[02:02] <xubuntu561> I have a vaio laptop and used to have dual boot installation, windows 8 and xubuntu 13.04
[02:04] <xubuntu561> but after installing xubuntu 14.04 (I re-formated the previous 13.04 partition and put the newly xubuntu 14.04) I got "error: symbol 'grub_term_highlight_color' not found" and I cannot enter any operating system
[02:04] <xubuntu561> :(
[02:06] <xubuntu561> I tried boot-repair program from a live cd, however that did not work
[02:17] <holstein> xubuntu561: worked here, fine
[02:17] <holstein> xubuntu561: how many hard drives are in the machine?
[02:18] <holstein> xubuntu561: are you certain you are restoring/installing grub to the expected and proper location? are you certain the drive is functioning properly? and testing OK?
[02:18] <xubuntu561> holstein: one physical drive
[02:18] <holstein> xubuntu561: and, you are installing to where? the "superblock"?
[02:19] <xubuntu561> holstein: first try I told xubuntu installer to put it into sda no partition specified
[02:20] <xubuntu561> holstein: now I am trying to reinstall xubuntu putting grub on sda3 UEFI partition
[02:20] <holstein> xubuntu561: ok.. that works from me in the *exact* scenario you outlined
[02:20] <xubuntu561> holstein: is this logical to do?
[02:20] <holstein> xubuntu561: no need to reinstall xubuntu
[02:20] <holstein> !uefi
[02:20] <holstein> xubuntu561: thats going to be the issue..
[02:20] <holstein> i do not have uefi here
[02:23] <xubuntu561> let's see if this fix the problem
[02:29] <nbros652> I am trying to encrypt a home directory post-setup using the ecryptfs-migrate-home command. The migration goes successfully, and I can su into user's account from a terminal, but I can't log in from the graphical login window. Any thoughts?
[02:31] <nbros652> If I su from a terminal first, the encrypted directory is mounted and then I am able to log in from lightdm. Obviously, I do not want to log in from the terminal every time before logging into lightdm.
[02:51] <nbros652> has anyone here used the ecryptfs-migrate-home command?
[02:52] <PoppaVic> well, after getting the flash stick to boot, and waiting thru a ton of install-time - the asus refuses to boot grub/xubuntu. And, it looks like there is no way to aim it at the partitions and run them
[02:52] <holstein> PoppaVic: aim it?
[02:52] <holstein> !uefi
[02:52] <holstein> PoppaVic: is that relevant? ^
[02:53] <holstein> might be the hardware is failing as well.. the install time is not a "ton" here
[02:54] <PoppaVic> yeah, and I been reading it all afternoon - well, there and elsewhere. The stik-boot worked; the repartition worked - just naming stuff I set from doze - but rebooting won't run grub or any other manager unless I F2 into the boot setup and then only doze is there
[02:55] <holstein> PoppaVic: rebooting doesnt gurantee running grub
[02:55] <holstein> PoppaVic: not sure what you mean by "f2".. you mean, if you select the proper drive in the bios?
[02:56] <PoppaVic> the only drive shown in the bios (once installed) is the DVD (empty) and the windows/hdd - so, no idea who to flog to get the grub partition to show
[02:57] <holstein> PoppaVic: you said it shows? correct?
[02:57] <holstein> PoppaVic: you can make grub work in the f2 menu?
[02:57] <PoppaVic> it shows the choice for an empty dvd drive and the default drive. ANd, no - it never shows under the F2 bios menu that I've added anything
[02:59] <PoppaVic> So, it's back to the drawing board on this.. Although, I am amused that the old toshiba drive - popped into a portable shell - booted right up in the linux I was running about 5 months ago.
[02:59] <holstein> PoppaVic: the dvd drive is just that, friend.. empty, correct? if so, dont bother with it, or enabling the booting of it.. you can igrnore or disable it
[02:59] <PoppaVic> (so it can definitely tell a usb device is bootable and runs, but it doesn't want to notice the partition changes on the win8 drive - and yes, I hate win8)
[03:00] <holstein> PoppaVic: you say "unless i F2 into the boot setup"
[03:00] <holstein> PoppaVic: what does that mean?
[03:00] <PoppaVic> holstein: As now set, the bios refuses to boot to the installed hdd unless I go thru F2 and PICK the win8 boot. Oddly, it'll snap up the usb drives and run right along.
[03:01] <holstein> PoppaVic: ok.. so whats the issue? then?
[03:01] <holstein> PoppaVic: sounds like thats a nice work around for hardware that has specifically tried to prevent you from doing what you are doing
[03:02] <nbros652> has anyone here used the ecryptfs-migrate-home command?
[03:02] <holstein> nbros652: no
[03:02] <PoppaVic> the issue is that installing to the win8 drive - in a new partition is useless and unreachable. Yes, I can fake it for awhile like this, but it's only temporary and cludge. If I can't get it to work right, I suppose it's best to get the money back on this machine
[03:02] <holstein> nbros652: just ask, and be patient.. try the #ubuntu channel
[03:03] <nbros652> holstein: I would, but everything is working as intended on ubuntu
[03:03] <holstein> PoppaVic: sure, but you were specficically blocked from doing so
[03:04] <holstein> nbros652: not sure what your question is ,then.. your issue is with xubuntu specifically?
[03:04] <PoppaVic> Yeah. I'm just _presuming_ that there is something I am not seeing - or the install is not seeing - to get the installed partition to bootload.
[03:04] <nbros652> holstein: home directories encrypted after setup won't allow login from lightdm on xubuntu
[03:05] <holstein> nbros652: ask in #ubuntu
[03:05] <holstein> nbros652: xubuntu *is* ubuntu.. and more folks are there who may or may not share your issue
[03:05] <nbros652> holstein: the problem doesn't exist in ubuntu
[03:06] <PoppaVic> holstein: I'll give that url a read - prolly more useful than google of late
[03:07] <holstein> nbros652: what do you mean, friend? are you using xubuntu?
[03:07] <holstein> nbros652: xubuntu *is* ubuntu.. so, if you are having an issue in xubuntu, that *is* an issue in ubuntu
[03:07] <nbros652> holstein: I've tried it in both. It works in Ubuntu but not Xubuntu.
[03:09] <holstein> nbros652: ok.. xubuntu *is* ubuntu. so whats the issue?
[03:09] <holstein> nbros652: are you comparing xubuntu 14.04 with ubuntu 13.10?
[03:10] <nbros652> holstein: I'm guessing the issue has something to do with a difference in the graphical login somewhere. Logging in from the terminal works just fine on both.
[03:10] <nbros652> holstein: 14.04 on both
[03:10] <holstein> nbros652: then change that, and confirm
[03:11] <nbros652> holstein: Change it how?
[03:11] <holstein> nbros652: i would change to the one that works
[03:12] <nbros652> holstein: the login? Aren't they both running lightdm?
[03:12] <holstein> nbros652: are they?
[03:12] <holstein> nbros652: if they are, then they are the same.. and that shouldnt be the difference
[03:14] <nbros652> holstein: I think that's what they both run by default.
[03:15] <holstein> nbros652: then, thats not the difference
[03:17] <nbros652> holstein: on attemped login to the account that has been encrypted, the screen goes black and then comes right back to the login screen. I presume this is because the encrypted home directory is not automatically mounted. Any idea where this might take place in Xubuntu during the login process?
[03:26] <nbros652> holstein: never mind, I'll keep messing with it or just reconfigure a whole new account that is encrypted from the start.
[03:52] <nbros652> holstein: workable solution... backup user directory. Delete user. Recreate user with encrypted home during creating. Mount encrypted user new home and dump old home directory into it.
[04:20] <Guest74016> Hello.
[04:20] <Guest74016> Anybody here. I need some help.
[04:24] <Guest74016> Hello? Anybody here? Why is this channel look so deserted? Linux Mint used to have people talking all over this place........... :(
[04:25] <Unit193> This is a support channel, so not a lot of people needing help, it's also night.  People can't help you if you don't ask your question.
[04:30] <Guest74016> Hey! So.... my problem is this: Removable drives and media not automatically mounted/listed
[04:31] <Guest74016> sorry I was away for a while
[04:31] <Guest74016> and I looked in the website and it says the bug is already fixed. I am just wondering how can i download and apply the fix......
[04:32] <Guest74016> Here's the link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar-volman/+bug/1210898
[04:33] <Guest74016> yeah bro. How can I get the fix on my computer?
[04:33] <Guest74016> Manual mounting sucks.
[04:38] <Unit193> Guest74016: Did you use the software updater to update thunar-volman?  Is thunar running?
[04:39] <Guest74016> I don't really know bro..... I did an update from the terminal last night. But it was not working after boot either.
[04:40] <Guest74016> I'm a noob at this......
[04:40] <holstein> Guest74016: in a terminal.. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:40] <Guest74016> Just a sec bro. Let me open that computer. I'm using another one.
[04:41] <Guest74016> Thanks in advance for putting up with my stupidity.
[04:50] <asdf__> Okay. So I am the Guest74016 guy
[04:50] <asdf__> So.... will that code download the bug fix holstein bro?
[04:51] <asdf__> nah bro. I did that and nothing has changed. Do I need to reboot?
[04:52] <asdf__> hello?
[04:59] <asdf__> I'm probably just talking to myself here....... :(
[06:00] <programmingnewbi> hi guy
[06:01] <programmingnewbi> guys
[06:01] <programmingnewbi> I have two screens one with 1920x1200 resolution and one with 1280x1024
[06:02] <programmingnewbi> @ the login prompt in Xubuntu I get a lower resolution than 1920x1200 with my 24" Monitor how I can solve it that all two monitors have the correct resolution @ the login screen?
[06:46] <Guido1> hello, i get a message that i don't have enough RAM to send an error report, but the latop should have 2 or 4 GB. SO my idea is that one RAM is broken. Is there a comand to chek this and to see the other haardware propertys (processor, processor spead etc.)
[06:48] <well_laid_lawn> Guido1:  try   lshw
[06:48] <well_laid_lawn> there's   free-m   to check vqilqble memory
[06:48] <well_laid_lawn> there's   free-m   to check available memory
[06:49] <Guido1> the comand ishw and free-m are not found
[06:50] <koegs> it is lswh not ishw and "free -m" or "free -h"
[06:51] <well_laid_lawn> el es hach double u
[06:52] <Guido1> koegs: same - command not found
[07:12] <Guido1> suddanly it worked
[07:16] <elfy> Guido1: that message usually appears when it's trying to create the error report, did it actually say RAM or free memory?
[07:17] <Guido1> elfy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7592994/
[07:18] <elfy> very nice - none of that answers my question though :)
[07:19] <Guido1> elfy: the table is the outcome from free -m
[07:23] <elfy> I know what it is - I don't think that the issue you have is anything to do with RAM - hence the question
[07:24] <elfy> the laptop has 2Gb by the way
[14:34] <skippezot> hey, looking for some help with kwin in xfce
[17:03] <ramiro> Hi, how do I enable events sounds? I'm using 14.04
[17:05] <starrats> like what kind of event?
[17:05] <ramiro> for example loging in and loging out
[17:08] <mmazing>  /join #c
[17:08] <mmazing> oops :)
[17:13] <starrats> ramiro go to settings manager > system > session/startup, see if you sound indicator has been checked, it's about the 4th one down
[17:16] <ramiro> I see it
[17:18] <ramiro> I'll give it a try starrats
[17:18] <starrats> okay
[17:34] <ramiro> I checked it already but is not working. Also I saw another path this is settings>appearance>settings>Event sounds>Enable event sounds I checked that already too but hovering over it, it says that requires "canberra" support.
[17:35] <adeebnqo> hello, my desktop just went blank. It is blaca and right clicking shows nothing. i use xubuntu 12.10
[17:35] <adeebnqo> *black. please help
[17:39] <deshipu> adeebnqo: try this: press alt+f2 and type xfce4-desktop
[17:39] <deshipu> then press enter
[17:42] <Haggard> My search fu has failed me. I'm using 14.04 and loaded libreoffice 4.2. It loaded itself into memory. Whenever I kill it, it respawns. It's not loaded as a service. How can I perma kill it?
[17:43] <adeebnqo> deshipu: it's not found
[17:43] <adeebnqo> lemme try and reinstall xfce
[17:44] <ramiro> Does anyone know how to get canberra working on 14.04
[17:44] <deshipu> adeebnqo: what did you do just before it broke?
[17:45] <adeebnqo> nothing, i have been using cinnamon for the past six months. i might have removed accidentally removed packages.
[17:54] <adeebnqo_> deshipu: turns out it's 'xfdesktop' and not xfce4-desktop what i was looking for
[18:02] <novo123> Hi
[18:02] <novo123> I've got a question..
[18:03] <novo123> ..how can I move files between 2 folders
[18:03] <novo123> ?
[18:06] <deshipu> adeebnqo_: aah, sorry
[18:31] <pratz> I installed 14.04 few days back , now on the system is hanged on grub screen
[18:31] <pratz> even the keyboard is hanged and I can not do any activity
[18:32] <pratz> can any one help on this ?
[19:03] <owsla> Does anyone know if the new xfce is still causing screen blanking? I think its a conflict with power management.
[19:24] <ubuntubox> hello, I am getting 2 "experienced an internal error" during login, I checked in /var/crash and found its because if virtualbox and mousepad, so I removed virtualbox but still getting the same thing, its 14.04
[19:42] <skribblezatcha> its not hindering you from booting up and getting to your desktop though right ubuntubox?
[19:42] <ubuntubox> skribblezatcha, not really
[19:43] <skribblezatcha> then dont even worry about it. its a kernel thing with vbox..since virtualbox is in the kernel..the headers and stuff. so you dont have to worry about that.
[19:43] <skribblezatcha> you will see it as you boot though.
[19:44] <ubuntubox> skribblezatcha, virtualbox is in kernel by default?
[19:44] <skribblezatcha> in fact, if you use vbox you can reinstall it and you will be fine.
[19:44] <skribblezatcha> yes ubuntubox, well the drivers for it are..sorta.
[19:45] <ubuntubox> skribblezatcha, oh, installing virtualbox was not a good idea, qemu works well
[19:45] <skribblezatcha> thats cool. i use vbox though..its more for me.
[19:46] <ubuntubox> skribblezatcha, I am not sure about Virtualbox's licenses... doesn't look open source anymore
[19:47] <skribblezatcha> i dont know if it is at the moment or not ubuntubox, thats something that you would have to look in to.
[19:51] <ubuntubox> skribblezatcha, is there any special command for removing crash files or I should just delete them?
[19:52] <skribblezatcha> crash files located where ubuntubox?
[19:52] <ubuntubox> skribblezatcha, as I have said earlier in /var/crash
[19:54] <ubuntubox> skribblezatcha, those are Apport crash actually
[19:55] <skribblezatcha> so /var/apport/crash?
[19:55] <ubuntubox> skribblezatcha, no /var/crash
[19:56] <skribblezatcha> ok, well if you want to delete them go ahead ubuntubox, i dont think that it will cause an issue. they will just be remade if it keeps getting the same error.
[19:57] <ubuntubox> skribblezatcha, oh ok, I have to log out for checking that
[19:58] <skribblezatcha> go for it ubuntubox.
[19:59] <xubuntu070> Can i ask a question here?
[19:59] <xubuntu070> I need some help
[20:01] <xubuntu070> is anyone here?
[20:03] <elfy> !ask
[20:05] <xubuntu070> I'm trying to install XUbuntu 14.04 on a DL360 G4, it's older hardware, I had it get to the "Install" page once but have not been able to get back to it since, it gets stuck on a black page with a keyboard=and a person in a circle page...
[20:06] <xubuntu070> if i launch it from a laptop or another piece of hardware it works...
[20:06] <xubuntu070> is 14.04 too new...
[20:25] <xubuntu070> can someone confirm my question is visible...
[20:33] <Noskcaj> xubuntu070, it's visible
[20:33] <Noskcaj> just no one seems to know the answer
[20:35] <xubuntu616> heya. question about fstab/gparted/gnome-disks
[20:35] <xubuntu616> What was the reasoning behind removing either of those utilities from xubuntu 14.04?
[20:36] <Aurvandill> hello everyone
[20:37] <xubuntu616> Hi
[20:37] <Kuperstein> Is anyone actually here? or is everyone AFK
[20:38] <Noskcaj> Kuperstein, It's not a huge channel
[20:38] <Noskcaj> Sometimes #ubuntu is a better place to ask
[20:39] <elfy> Kuperstein: fstab is a system file - not removed, gparted hasn't been part of a default install as long as I've used it, neither gnome-disks
[20:47] <knome> Noskcaj, sometimes, but they might be get redirected back here since that was a clearly xubuntu-specific question
[21:01] <Aurvandill> good bye and have a nice day :)
[21:13] <tgm4883> Just updated to 14.04 and I noticed that the startup screen (plymouth?) looks great even when using proprietary drivers. I'm trying to track down what I might need to look at to get ours (Mythbuntu) to look great too. As it stands, when using nvidia's proprietary drivers on Mythbuntu, plymouth falls back to a text only startup screen
[21:14] <knome> tgm4883, join us at #xubuntu-devel :)
[21:14] <tgm4883> knome: will do, thanks
[21:14] <Unit193> tgm4883: What's in /etc/default/grub ?
[21:47] <Guido1> I have a hardware question IF i look at the processorspeed at http://ark.intel.com/products/76753/Intel-Celeron-Processor-N2810-1M-Cache-2_00-GHz does it mean that each core has 2 GHz or both together? I heard somethink like that you have to multiply the GHz by the amount of cores.
[22:06] <meek_geek> my update manager says cannot trust sources
[23:45] <Pwnna> does anyone know where the xfce4-panel layout config is?