[06:09] <Karthik> hi
[06:10] <Karthik> hi anybody there?
[06:10] <mapps> hi
[06:11] <Karthik> hi I have a doubt about joining ubuntu client machine to windows server
[06:11] <mapps> im here but no good
[06:11] <mapps> :D
[06:13] <MooDoo> morning
[06:14] <Karthik> good morinig
[06:14] <Karthik> sorry,good morning
[06:15] <Myrtti> graah. Morning
[06:16] <Karthik> hi I have a doubt about joining ubuntu client machine to windows server
[06:17] <mapps> cant help:(
[06:17] <Karthik> k.
[06:17] <Karthik> 'anyothers can help me?
[06:17] <mapps> ya
[06:18] <mapps> if you wait
[06:18] <mapps> MartijnVdS can prob help you
[06:18] <Karthik> ok sir
[06:20] <mapps> :D
[06:21] <diddledan> *yawn*
[06:44] <hoover> morning
[06:53] <MooDoo> morning
[07:13] <SuperMatt> morning
[07:13] <MooDoo> morning SuperMatt
[07:13] <popey> yo
[07:13] <hoover> Morning
[07:18] <MooDoo> SuperMatt: how you enjoying being a racker?
[07:21] <SuperMatt> I am indeed
[07:21] <SuperMatt> I'm enjoying a lot of things right now, and being a racker is certainly one of them
[07:22] <MartijnVdS> if you work from home, are you a homeracker?
[07:23] <SuperMatt> I don't know
[07:23] <SuperMatt> no one has mentioned anything like that
[07:23] <SuperMatt> but I see your pun, and I choose to ignore it
[07:24] <MartijnVdS> :)
[07:24] <MooDoo> lol
[07:26] <diplo> Morning all
[07:28] <MooDoo> howdy diplo
[07:34] <MooDoo> http://taylorworld.me.uk/ubuntu-uk.html - mwahahahah my next target is penguin42
[07:34]  * diplo looks
[07:34] <diplo> Hows MooDoo ?
[07:34] <diplo> How am I in position 9, I don't chat half as much as others
[07:35] <MooDoo> diplo: I'm fine thanks :) and I'm coming for you diplo...:)
[07:35]  * diplo gets typing :D
[07:36] <MooDoo> :) lol
[07:39] <diddledan> I'm close on your heals, MooDoo - two places further back
[07:39] <diddledan> we will usurp the mighty popey eventually, right?
[07:41] <MooDoo> diddledan: only if we break his fingers and ban him from the internet for life
[07:41] <diddledan> sounds like a plan
[07:42] <Myrtti> well, it looks like Benadryl acrivastine isn't meant for me
[07:42] <Myrtti> I'm not tired, which is usually what happens, but my mouth is made of parchment, feeling a bit nauseous and my typing skills have taken a dip
[07:43] <Myrtti> tomorrow: testing how loratedine fares against my allergies.
[07:43] <Myrtti> loratadine even
[07:51] <diplo> Some of the drugs I've been taking leave me with a sandpaper feeling mouth in the morning
[07:51] <diplo> A friend got pescribed some gel stuff that when you first wake up it freshens your mouth and makes you feel normal again
[07:51] <diplo> Don't drugs suck :/
[07:52] <Myrtti> well I suppose I should count my blessings
[07:52] <Myrtti> I don't feel like gauging my eyes out and I'm not encrusting the laptop screen with sneezes I fail to catch with a hankie
[07:53] <diplo> :)
[07:53] <MooDoo> I'm ok this morning, I just had a swag of piriton lol
[07:54] <diddledan> related, almost, I built the website for opticrom which is a hayfever eye-drop - opticrom.co.uk
[07:55] <diddledan> reminds me, I need to do some tweaking
[07:55] <MooDoo> diddledan: I read that as twerking, was getting worried then :D
[07:56] <diddledan> MooDoo: I can try that too
[07:56] <diplo> Drupal man ?
[07:57] <diddledan> diplo: not really. I scrape by. problem is my boss thinks I know what I'm doing
[07:57] <Myrtti> MooDoo: I wanted to try other medicines than piriton, cetirizine (especially as the racemic mixture instead of just levocetirizine) knocks me out cold
[07:58] <diddledan> these names aren't real words
[07:58] <shauno> it kinda looks like a sentence if you step back and squint though
[07:58] <Myrtti> Very high pollen count in Peterborough. No wonder I feel so awful
[08:00] <Myrtti> Piriton and Piriteze make me feel uneasy. Piri is a colloquial for amphetamine in Finnish.
[08:03] <diplo> diddledan, Same as me, scrape by :)
[08:16] <foobarry> spidey sense is tingling today
[08:16] <foobarry> gonna be a bad hayfever day
[08:16] <foobarry> Myrtti: piri piri sauce?
[08:18] <MooDoo> no chilli hot sauce
[08:18] <popey> wifey wants take away tonight
[08:19] <popey> i want something spicy.. hmmm
[08:19] <MooDoo> I had kebab last night, I love the idea at the time, then suffer in the morning.
[08:19] <diddledan> popey: curry house takeway
[08:19] <diddledan> +a
[08:19] <MooDoo> curry house takeawaus are never spicey enough lol
[08:19] <diddledan> lol
[08:20] <Myrtti> I'm happier with Tesco korma and chicken tikka masala than I am with any I get from a curry house
[08:20] <foobarry> 8 days left on my warranty. how am i gonna persuade dell that my power supply is failing when its sporadic
[08:21] <diddledan> foobarry: short it out and say "it got worse"
[08:21] <foobarry> happened a few times this week
[08:22] <Myrtti> being sporadic is a fault
[08:22] <foobarry> dmesg won't report it , nor will their diags
[08:22] <popey> MooDoo: depends what you order
[08:23] <popey> my local does a mean garlic chilli chicken
[08:28] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: just send it in for warranty, with the not" Sporadically fails"
[08:28] <MartijnVdS> note*
[08:32] <foobarry> gonna try boot the dell diag iso
[08:33] <foobarry> have a nice sheet of the new ubuntu stickers
[08:33] <dwatkins> morning folks
[08:33] <foobarry> they include one to go on your "super" key
[08:33] <ali1234> diagnostic software will never find PSU errors
[08:33] <foobarry> ali1234: i know, but they will ask me to do it
[08:34] <foobarry> we had a power cut couple of weeks ago, seems to be ever since then
[08:36] <popey> i have three PSUs for my thinkpad now
[08:36] <popey> one on my desk in the office, one under the sofa and one in the laptop bag
[08:37] <diddledan> popey: I have the same setup
[08:37] <diddledan> only with two different laptops that aren't thinkpads
[08:38] <diddledan> 1 cable on my desk for everyday, one in the lappybag and the other I keep in the office for those rare occasions I go-in
[09:19] <xnox> Wait, turbines are not huge fans?! *fascinating* this changes everything.
[09:22] <MooDoo> xnox: no your wrong, love, love changes everything, hands and faces, earth and sky...;)
[09:23] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:23] <MooDoo> morning brobostigon
[09:24] <brobostigon> morning MooDoo
[09:26] <diddledan> MooDoo:  :-p
[09:27] <diddledan> MooDoo: I need to put that onto spotify now
[09:27] <diddledan> MooDoo: damn j00
[09:30] <MooDoo> diddledan: sowweeeee
[09:44] <foobarry> seem to have forgotten my gpg key password
[09:45] <diddledan> foobarry: oh dear :-(
[09:46] <Laney> good job you made a revcert when you created it ^o)
[09:46] <foobarry> :(
[09:49] <foobarry> strange that i did not write it down
[09:51] <foobarry> how do i generate revoke certs?
[09:51] <diddledan> foobarry: with the password :-p
[09:52] <foobarry> gpg --output revoke.asc --gen-revoke mykey
[09:53]  * diddledan does it the pointy clicky way
[10:00] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[10:04] <MooDoo> hello bigcalm
[10:16] <foobarry> "Since issue is intermittent and no error message after running the diagnostic test, issue may be software related, foobarry "
[10:17] <foobarry> "if it was software issue i would not have to unplug and replug power cord the other day"
[10:17] <foobarry> "Thanks for adding that up, i would be glad to request a PSU"
[10:31] <Myrtti> I want to prod and poke someone about OEM laptops getting the LTS
[10:31] <Myrtti> but I don't know who I'd poke
[10:31] <Myrtti> I'm annoyed
[10:31] <Myrtti> want LTS
[10:51] <MooDoo> Myrtti: poke the first person you see in the street, they will probably have just as much luck at getting this :D
[10:52] <Myrtti> :-<
[10:52] <Myrtti> you is mean
[10:53]  * MooDoo hugs Myrtti  :)
[11:05] <Myrtti> to my great disappointment (but also with results I totally expected) it turns out my latest dyeing project didn't take the colour I wanted and hoped. Oh well. Instead of a green summer hat I shall have a brown summer hat.
[11:09] <diddledan> those two colours aren't even close
[11:09] <ali1234> yeah they are
[11:11] <Myrtti> diddledan: chemistry is weird.
[11:12] <MooDoo> h2oh yes it is indeed :)
[11:12] <Myrtti> It is somehow logical in some weird way that if you're using alum to prep animal fibres for dyeing, if using red onion skins as the dye, the end result is olive green
[11:12] <Myrtti> ramie is a vegetable fibre, so the results weren't what I hoped but also knew that would be unlikely
[11:12] <diddledan> and red food colouring is yellow
[11:20] <diplo> Got some issues with shared hosting where the load gets high and dns stops resolving correctly
[11:21] <diplo> Can anyone explain how this works, so we have a reseller account with cpanel and this same server does websites/dns etc etc
[11:21] <diplo> If the load goes through the roof we have issues with resolving records sometimes
[11:22] <diplo> I'm guessing that when the customers dns servers are trying to connect to domain.com @ IP it requests it from the Shared host it can't complete the transaction ?
[11:29] <diddledan> dig is helpful for working out dns bottlenecks
[11:29] <diddledan> use +trace and it'll query the entire dns server chain
[11:30] <diplo> Trying that now
[11:30] <diplo> ta
[11:31] <diplo> Connection timed out, no servers could be reached.. Will look into the command a bit more
[11:31] <diddledan> should be just `dig example.com +trace`
[11:32] <diplo> yep, tried on a few sites just says timed out
[11:33] <diplo> Seems an Ubuntu issue
[11:33] <diplo> Works fine from my VPS
[11:33] <diddledan> sounds like your resolv.conf is screwey
[11:33] <MooDoo> can you ping the IP?  silly question
[11:33] <diddledan> hmm, ubuntu does that whole nameserver 127.0.0.1 thing
[11:34] <diddledan> I forget where network manager puts it's own resolv.conf file or even if it obscures it entirely inside the evil that is dbus
[11:34] <diplo> Yeah, happens on all different domains
[11:34] <diplo> not just my issue one
[11:35] <diplo> When the load goes high again I'll try again
[11:35] <diplo> Returning fast atm
[12:53] <diddledan> http://mashable.com/2014/06/05/wimpy-goat/
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[12:53] <MartijnVdS> haha :)
[13:04] <mapps> yo
[13:05] <MartijnVdS> time for.. tea, music and configuring some switches
[13:05] <MartijnVdS> <-- impressed by MikroTik/Routerboard gear
[13:08]  * MooDoo just got a netgear wifi extender
[13:10] <mapps> :D
[13:10] <mapps> nice
[13:11] <MartijnVdS> MooDoo: http://routerboard.com/
[13:11] <MartijnVdS> MooDoo: also, I found a place that sells them *cheap* (in Germany)
[13:11] <MooDoo> cool
[13:12] <diddledan> MartijnVdS: I got mine from linitx.com
[13:12] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: mikrotik-shop.de
[13:14] <MartijnVdS> they're cheaper on some things, more expensive on others, I think prices are about the same :)
[13:14] <mapps> argh
[13:14] <mapps> such  a hassle
[13:14] <mapps> going to the phene in a minute get a few beers
[14:21] <Gargoyle> Does anyone have any recommendations for a basic MTA for servers. Just so that notification emails (Eg. cron messages, etc) can be sent out to a real email address? Would you still go with a full install of postfix?
[14:22] <bigcalm> exim
[14:45] <mapps> i have an amex and lloyds sent me a mastercard too for when places dont accept amex
[14:45] <mapps> lol
[14:45] <mapps> why not just issue a mastercard?
[14:45] <diplo> I had that as well
[14:45] <foobarry> amex sucks
[14:46] <diplo> Probably because Amex pay them well to issue their cards
[14:46] <mapps> just seems strange to me
[14:46] <mapps> so i have 2 cards for the same account
[14:46] <diplo> Can get brilliant deals with Amex sometimes, just very limited in the UK
[14:46] <mapps> yep
[14:46] <mapps> i show my amex and theyre like what the hell
[14:47] <mapps> im becoming a card hoarder:)
[14:48] <mapps> lloyds amex/hsbc mastercard/barclays visa/barclays mc/mbna visa/mbna plat visa/m&s bank/capital one / morgan stanley
[14:48] <diddledan> postfix is my choice
[14:49]  * diddledan reading scrollback
[14:49] <mapps> i cant remember the pins
[14:49] <mapps> but nevermind
[14:49] <mapps> :P
[15:12] <dwatkins> mapps: wow, I only have two banks
[15:12] <dwatkins> well, one of them is a building society
[15:57] <funkyHat> mapps: amex charge retailers more to accept your payments, so lloyds make more money
[15:57] <funkyHat> Barclaycard have just done the same thing to me. Amex and a Visa for when people say nuhuh
[15:58] <funkyHat> And I get less cashback when I use the Visa ⢁(
[15:59] <funkyHat> Oh look that conversation was over an hour ago
[16:24] <diddledan> funkyHat: you're into conversational necrophillia?
[16:25] <diddledan> dead convo is dead
[16:28] <mapps> but funkyHat
[16:28] <mapps> why not just give visa/mc
[16:28] <mapps> 2 cards for 1 seems silly
[16:28] <mapps> but yea i get cashback on my mastercard:D got an m&s mastercard had like £30 m&s vouchers already
[16:29] <shauno> that's his point.  amex costs the vendor more
[16:29] <mapps> yea
[16:30] <mapps> but
[16:30] <mapps> why not ust use mc then
[16:31] <directhex> more cashback or other perks on amex
[16:31] <directhex> e.g. with lloyds, they give 5x the avios if you use the amex not the mastercard
[16:32] <SkippySquirrel> hi im trying to get ubuntu on my raspberry pi, can anyone tell me if its possable?
[16:32] <bigcalm> SkippySquirrel: talk to AlanBell :)
[16:32] <SkippySquirrel> that is if he/she is around
[16:34] <bigcalm> It's Friday afternoon, he might be in the pub
[16:35] <bigcalm> There isn't currently a build of Ubuntu for the ARM chip that the RPi uses. AlanBell is in the process of creating a RPi server farm to compile each package for Ubuntu on said chip
[16:36] <bigcalm> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/a-raspberry-pi-build-cluster-for-ubuntu (funded)
[16:40] <diddledan> Alan's been facing real life issues last I heard which put a delay onto the clusterbuild
[16:40] <directhex> real life sucks
[16:40] <diddledan> indeed
[16:40] <bigcalm> Down with real life!
[16:40] <diddledan> we'd be much better off if we didn't have meat things
[16:41] <diddledan> up with second-life?
[16:41] <diddledan> is that even still running?
[16:41] <bigcalm> A game I never played due to being stuck on dial up when it was in use
[17:18] <ali1234> second life is basically a cross between minecraft, blender, and irc, with furries
[17:33] <diddledan> http://revk.www.me.uk/2014/05/virgin-lies.html
[18:14] <ali1234> does "find -type d -links 3" find all directories that contain exactly one file or directory? (along with . and ..)
[18:19] <ali1234> no, the link count only counts directories, so that finds directories with exactly one subdirectory
[18:19] <ali1234> (immediate)
[20:15] <Armag3dd0n24> so who's watching big brother?