| * Saviq is peeling today ;D | 07:23 | |
| tsdgeos | Saviq: should we do a landing with the approved stuff we have? | 07:41 |
|---|---|---|
| Saviq | tsdgeos, yup, was planning to today | 07:41 |
| Saviq | tsdgeos, wanted to see if we can get departments in | 07:41 |
| tsdgeos | don't think so :/ | 07:41 |
| tsdgeos | mhr3 is on holiday and he has a few things marked to fix in his MR i think | 07:41 |
| Saviq | oh ok | 07:44 |
| tsdgeos | Saviq: did you try the touchdown thing on the phone? | 08:35 |
| Saviq | tsdgeos, ah maybe you meant recent apps? | 08:37 |
| Saviq | tsdgeos, I only tried the app scope | 08:37 |
| Saviq | as in the installed / available | 08:37 |
| tsdgeos | Saviq: no no, regular apps | 08:37 |
| Saviq | hmm looked fine... | 08:37 |
| * Saviq tries | 08:37 | |
| tsdgeos | let me try again too | 08:39 |
| tsdgeos | actually happens on desktop | 08:39 |
| tsdgeos | click on system settings | 08:39 |
| tsdgeos | it's the same problem with artshapesize not forcing artshape | 08:40 |
| tsdgeos | maybe the patch i have for yesterdays two line title vs art | 08:40 |
| tsdgeos | fixes it too | 08:40 |
| * tsdgeos checks | 08:40 | |
| Saviq | tsdgeos, I don't have that patch ;) | 08:40 |
| tsdgeos | i know | 08:40 |
| tsdgeos | i'm just saying that maybe it fixes it | 08:41 |
| Saviq | ah ok | 08:41 |
| Saviq | tsdgeos, ah now I see what you mean | 08:41 |
| Saviq | tsdgeos, weird | 08:41 |
| tsdgeos | no, patch doesn't fix it | 08:42 |
| tsdgeos | which is weird, seems like it should :/ | 08:42 |
| Saviq | tsdgeos, what's worse, this will mean one more UbuntuShape again :| | 08:42 |
| tsdgeos | ah, it actually does | 08:43 |
| tsdgeos | i was merging from the wrong place | 08:43 |
| tsdgeos | Saviq: oh yeah, i know | 08:43 |
| Saviq | but I think Cimi tested that it's not significant? | 08:43 |
| tsdgeos | testCardBenchmark gave "similar numbers" | 08:43 |
| tsdgeos | i think he said | 08:44 |
| tsdgeos | errrr | 08:52 |
| tsdgeos | can't compile on the phone anymore :/ | 08:52 |
| tsdgeos | runs out of space | 08:52 |
| tsdgeos | so we have to x-compile now? | 08:55 |
| mzanetti | tsdgeos: yes, which project? | 09:00 |
| tsdgeos | unity8 | 09:00 |
| mzanetti | tsdgeos: yes, should x-compile fine | 09:00 |
| mzanetti | tsdgeos: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild | 09:00 |
| mzanetti | tsdgeos: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CrossBuilding | 09:01 |
| tsdgeos | i know it x-compiles fine | 09:01 |
| tsdgeos | it's just infinite amounts of work more than ./run_on_device.sh | 09:01 |
| tsdgeos | for a 1 line change | 09:01 |
| mzanetti | +1 | 09:01 |
| mzanetti | tsdgeos: in that case, you can free up a little disk space on the phone | 09:01 |
| tsdgeos | makes my developer life hard without any need | 09:01 |
| mzanetti | tsdgeos: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7119790/ | 09:02 |
| tsdgeos | oor we could make a mroe developer friendly image | 09:02 |
| tsdgeos | which tbh are the 99% of people using the phone now | 09:02 |
| mzanetti | that's a 2 sided sword | 09:03 |
| tsdgeos | but whatever if people want me to be slower developing, i'll be slower developing | 09:03 |
| mzanetti | well, the solution to this would be to have run_on_device using the x-compile environment really | 09:03 |
| tsdgeos | but it would still create a deb? | 09:04 |
| tsdgeos | that's sloooooooooooooooooooooooooow | 09:04 |
| mzanetti | no... just compile in the chroot and rsync binaries | 09:04 |
| mzanetti | rsync the builddir basically | 09:04 |
| mzanetti | probably not even using sbuild... probably click-chroot to set it up, then call schroot make etc and then rsync /path/to/chroot/builddir to the phone... that's how I'd start tackling the issue... | 09:06 |
| tsdgeos | Saviq: what do you think of https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/obeyArtShapeFixedSize/+merge/222294 ? | 09:13 |
| Saviq | tsdgeos, whoa, I was hoping you'll tell me I overcomplicated it and you'd simplify it :D | 09:14 |
| tsdgeos | ^_^ | 09:14 |
| tsdgeos | it's just adding an extra if :D | 09:14 |
| Saviq | *just* ;) | 09:14 |
| === pete-woods is now known as pete-woods-away | ||
| Saviq | tsdgeos, I'll have to focus to read through this, will need food first! ;) | 09:15 |
| Cimi | tsdgeos, Saviq what was the question? | 10:05 |
| Saviq | Cimi, aren't you on holidays? | 10:05 |
| tsdgeos | Cimi: no question i think | 10:05 |
| Cimi | Saviq, I am | 10:05 |
| Saviq | Cimi, then go away | 10:05 |
| Saviq | :P | 10:05 |
| Cimi | Saviq, but I receive pings on my pebble :P | 10:05 |
| Saviq | Cimi, then log out of IRC | 10:05 |
| Saviq | and yes, we know you've got a pebble :P | 10:06 |
| Cimi | B) | 10:06 |
| Cimi | and we know you eat scorpion chilly | 10:06 |
| Cimi | tsdgeos, you missed that! | 10:06 |
| Cimi | chilli | 10:06 |
| Saviq | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinidad_Scorpion_Butch_T_pepper | 10:06 |
| Saviq | "was formerly the most piquant pepper" | 10:07 |
| Saviq | lol | 10:07 |
| tsdgeos | oh no, i didn't miss that at all :D | 10:07 |
| tsdgeos | i may die just by being on the same room as that thing | 10:07 |
| Saviq | tsdgeos, I *did* die | 10:07 |
| Saviq | or maybe it was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinidad_moruga_scorpion | 10:08 |
| Cimi | I have the pic | 10:08 |
| Cimi | hold on | 10:08 |
| Cimi | Saviq, https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzO8ZDfBk9UKNTBPNkVWbm5rRlU/edit?usp=sharing | 10:11 |
| Saviq | so it's probably the latter | 10:12 |
| Cimi | Saviq, "You take a bite. It doesn't seem so bad, and then it builds and it builds and it builds. So it is quite nasty" | 10:15 |
| Cimi | Saviq, your description :D | 10:15 |
| Cimi | from wikipedia | 10:15 |
| Cimi | the "oh fuck" started indeed 5 minutes after the first bite | 10:15 |
| Cimi | ahaha | 10:15 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, can you drive https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/unity8/dont-crash-on-invalid-app/+merge/220636 into the ground (or trunk, for that matter)? | 10:17 |
| mzanetti | Saviq: you mean landing it? | 10:17 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, I mean getting someone to review and ACK | 10:17 |
| Saviq | I'll take care of the landing | 10:17 |
| mzanetti | Saviq: hey, can you review https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/unity8/dont-crash-on-invalid-app/+merge/220636 ? | 10:18 |
| mzanetti | :P | 10:18 |
| mzanetti | nah... I'll ask greyback, he saw it already anyways | 10:18 |
| mzanetti | greyback: small one https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/unity8/dont-crash-on-invalid-app/+merge/220636 | 10:18 |
| Saviq | ;) | 10:18 |
| greyback | dammit that bug is annoying, I just can't figure it out | 10:19 |
| mzanetti | greyback: yesterday I came by some lambdas that looked suspiciously thread unsafe | 10:19 |
| mzanetti | but not on appStarted... only on appclosed :/ | 10:20 |
| mzanetti | the crash seems to happen on started too | 10:20 |
| Saviq | /food (and scrub first) | 10:21 |
| mzanetti | lol | 10:21 |
| greyback | mzanetti: my only guess is perhaps an app which immediately dies on start. Obvoiusly I've must've made an error in serializing all the mir & upstart events, I just don't yet see it | 10:22 |
| tsdgeos | greyback: can we get infinite amounts of debug added so that when it happens we have debug logs to pull? | 10:22 |
| mzanetti | greyback: do you know how how QObject::connect() behaves in when connecting a lambda whith something from another thread? | 10:22 |
| greyback | tsdgeos: working on it now | 10:22 |
| tsdgeos | :) | 10:22 |
| mzanetti | greyback: I think it might fail to detect the different thread and makes it a directConnection | 10:23 |
| greyback | mzanetti: that lambda run in the thread of the signal. No queued connections for lambdas | 10:23 |
| mzanetti | yeah... so I think in qtmir the applicationRemoved is dangerous | 10:23 |
| mzanetti | because that one in turn emits rowsRemoved etc | 10:24 |
| greyback | mzanetti: there's no such lambda in unity-mir's AppManager tho | 10:28 |
| greyback | mzanetti: and yeah the qtmir code is an old version of unity-mir's - it does need updating | 10:29 |
| greyback | I've a branch with that mostly done somewhere | 10:29 |
| tsdgeos | paulliu: can you merge https://code.launchpad.net/~paulliu/unity8/logout/+merge/216373 ? | 10:32 |
| greyback | mzanetti: https://code.launchpad.net/~gerboland/unity-mir/enable-logs/+merge/222300 <- that the right thing to do? | 10:34 |
| mzanetti | greyback: looks ok, but would need to test | 10:37 |
| mzanetti | doing that now | 10:37 |
| greyback | thanks | 10:39 |
| pstolowski | Saviq, I've implemented most scopes-api/unity-api/scopes-shell changes for https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-api/+bug/1326292 ; can you assign unity8 to somebody? | 10:50 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1326292 in Unity 8 "Unity8 should not request preview for the upcoming 'store' category in Apps" [Undecided,New] | 10:50 |
| pstolowski | s/most// | 10:50 |
| pstolowski | Saviq, also, reviews would be much appreciated ;) | 10:51 |
| mzanetti | greyback: nope... installed that package, no unity-mir debug prints :/ | 10:52 |
| greyback | mzanetti: darn. Any ideas? | 10:53 |
| mzanetti | greyback: just checking, but I guess dpkg-buildpackage actually sets the build type | 10:53 |
| greyback | I totally didn't think it did. Oh well | 10:53 |
| mzanetti | greyback: I'm verifying that | 10:54 |
| Saviq | pstolowski, if you want reviews, we need MPs! | 10:58 |
| pstolowski | Saviq, ah, indeed :), 1 minute | 10:58 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, greyback, it does - RelWithDebInfo | 10:58 |
| mzanetti | yep... | 10:59 |
| Saviq | unless you override dh_autoconfigure of course | 10:59 |
| mzanetti | ok... so I guess that's what we want to do | 10:59 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, see what unity8 does | 10:59 |
| mzanetti | thanks | 11:00 |
| pstolowski | Saviq, done. when implementing it in unity8, I think it'd be best if you leave the hack we currently have to ease the "transition", and remove it once new click scope lands | 11:03 |
| Saviq | pstolowski, +1 | 11:03 |
| Saviq | pstolowski, or well, we can just land them together | 11:03 |
| Saviq | but k | 11:03 |
| om26er | Saviq, when does the old tabbar in unity8 get removed ? | 11:04 |
| pstolowski | Saviq, yeah, sure, I just think that way may be faster | 11:04 |
| Saviq | om26er, you mean the new header? we'll get on it soon | 11:04 |
| om26er | Saviq, yeah | 11:04 |
| Saviq | om26er, probably along with the dash overview, to not regress in the speed you can access your favourite items with | 11:05 |
| om26er | Saviq, overview means bottom edge swipe to show all scopes ? | 11:05 |
| Saviq | om26er, yes | 11:05 |
| om26er | ok | 11:06 |
| om26er | Saviq, when the screen is turned off the volume keys still work, is that handled by unity ? | 11:06 |
| Saviq | om26er, yes | 11:06 |
| om26er | there goes a bug report | 11:06 |
| Saviq | om26er, there is one already | 11:07 |
| Saviq | om26er, bug #1291458 | 11:07 |
| ubot5 | bug 1291458 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "[platform design] Volume buttons change ringtone volume when suspended" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1291458 | 11:07 |
| Saviq | /food for real | 11:08 |
| mzanetti | greyback: https://code.launchpad.net/~gerboland/unity-mir/enable-logs/+merge/222300/comments/532564 | 11:21 |
| mzanetti | greyback: I just tested this, works | 11:21 |
| mzanetti | just make sure to turn spaces into a tab when copy/pasting it | 11:21 |
| greyback | mzanetti: ack | 11:22 |
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| cwayne | greyback: mzanetti: do either of you guys have an n10? i've heard reports of the n10 being very flaky with the shell-rotation ppa, but i don't have one to verify | 11:25 |
| greyback | cwayne: can you define "flaky" better? The main issue I know of is the browser scrolling badly (it just jitters until the scroll completes - not something we can fix, is either Mir or browser issue) | 11:26 |
| cwayne | greyback: all I got was "it crashed 3 times in 5 minutes" | 11:27 |
| cwayne | i can try and prod for some logs | 11:27 |
| greyback | cwayne: running packages from yesterday/today? | 11:27 |
| cwayne | greyback: yesterday, yeah | 11:28 |
| cwayne | greyback: also apparently video playback doesn't work on n10 | 11:28 |
| greyback | cwayne: if you could get logs, it would help. Contents of /var/crashes especially. | 11:28 |
| mzanetti | greyback: I think the problem is still that it gets crashy after the screen has been off | 11:29 |
| mzanetti | it works fine at first, then it suspends, we wake it up again and things start crashing more often | 11:29 |
| om26er | mzanetti, Hi! since the right edge switcher landed, now if you have a single app opened and you swipe the right edge nothing happens. Previously the app zoomed out to show no apps are running. Intentional or regression ? | 11:31 |
| greyback | cwayne: ouch. I hadn't tried video at all. I would suspect that doesn't work with stock images either... | 11:31 |
| greyback | mzanetti: interesting | 11:31 |
| om26er | that behavior can still be seen on dash (with no apps open) | 11:31 |
| mzanetti | om26er: will be fixed soon | 11:31 |
| mzanetti | om26er: design wasn't really sure yet what should happen in that case | 11:31 |
| greyback | cwayne: ok I'll play with the N10 and try to repro & fix crashes. | 11:32 |
| om26er | mzanetti, need me to report a bug ? | 11:32 |
| cwayne | greyback: i've asked for logs to be sent your way as well | 11:32 |
| greyback | cwayne: I doubt there's anything I can do about video playback though. Will see if I can figure out what's wrong | 11:32 |
| mzanetti | om26er: not really... there's that big QtCompositor rework coming up, also turning the dash into an app... that will force us to touch that code anyways | 11:33 |
| om26er | mzanetti, cool, that means dash in the right edge switcher ? | 11:33 |
| greyback | cwayne: in the PPA this morning we have app splash screens working. It makes the UI look nicer, could you check it out please? | 11:33 |
| mzanetti | om26er: yes | 11:33 |
| om26er | always wanted that. | 11:33 |
| om26er | yay! | 11:33 |
| cwayne | greyback: yep, was just updating | 11:33 |
| cwayne | greyback: cool! splash screen seems to work really well so far | 11:40 |
| greyback | cwayne: let me know if you spot any problems | 11:41 |
| mzanetti | tsdgeos: Saviq: FWIW, for the short right edge flick Vesa's prototype didn't have the 2 gu minimum either but we still added it in the end. I think its safe to go ahead and add that check. I had the same feeling as Saviq when I tried it before. | 11:49 |
| cwayne | greyback: will do | 11:49 |
| cwayne | hmm, seeing a weird overlay on one of our scopes when in landscape on n4: http://people.canonical.com/~cwayne/overlaid.png | 11:50 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, TBH 2gu is nothing, I'd say it should be like 1/4th of the screen | 11:50 |
| mzanetti | Saviq: no... that's explicitly not wanted by design | 11:50 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, but if Vesa made it like that, then that's probably fine | 11:50 |
| mzanetti | Saviq: design wants to have it really short, if we're detecting its really what the user wants, and that's done by the speed | 11:51 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, k, feels a bit jumpy to me | 11:51 |
| tsdgeos | Saviq: jumpy in what sense? | 11:51 |
| tsdgeos | too easy to close? | 11:51 |
| Saviq | tsdgeos, it's too easy yeah | 11:51 |
| tsdgeos | it's what the iphone does | 11:51 |
| tsdgeos | it's ultra easy to close stuff in their "app carousel" view | 11:52 |
| greyback | cwayne: can you show me how to install that scope? | 11:52 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| cwayne | greyback: push this to the phone and untar it: http://people.canonical.com/~cwayne/scope.tgz | 12:00 |
| mzanetti | cwayne: you said its flaky with the shorts app | 12:00 |
| mzanetti | cwayne: for me the shorts app doesn't start up at all | 12:00 |
| mzanetti | still nothing crashes | 12:01 |
| cwayne | mzanetti: yeah me neither, i meant flaky as in sometimes that caused it to crash | 12:01 |
| cwayne | not sure why the app itself will never launch though | 12:01 |
| greyback | messaging app & dialer take _ages_ to start up | 12:01 |
| mzanetti | greyback: right... dialer doesn't start for me at all either on the tablets. it does work on the phone | 12:02 |
| cwayne | we hide it in the tablet images for the demos anyway | 12:02 |
| mzanetti | oh, there it is :) | 12:03 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch | ||
| mzanetti | indeed it just takes _ages_ | 12:03 |
| mzanetti | greyback: found an issue with the app splash | 12:03 |
| mzanetti | its click through | 12:03 |
| greyback | mzanetti: ah nice catch | 12:03 |
| mzanetti | but I didn't have a single crash today so far | 12:04 |
| greyback | cwayne: I pushed a fix so videos play from scopes | 12:05 |
| cwayne | greyback: on n10? | 12:05 |
| greyback | cwayne: well I'm playing "yes men fix the world" in the browser on my n10. But the video is far from smooth. | 12:05 |
| greyback | there's a frame ordering bug on n10 that is very obvious | 12:06 |
| greyback | Mir & binary blob GPU driver issue - nothing we can do | 12:06 |
| cwayne | damn | 12:06 |
| cwayne | well at least there's some playback now :) | 12:07 |
| greyback | always a silver lining ;) | 12:07 |
| cwayne | it's too bad split greeter + shell rotation can't go together, would be real nice to use a promoted image | 12:13 |
| Saviq | cwayne, they can, it just needs time that you don't have ;) | 12:14 |
| Saviq | cwayne, it's gonna be there in two weeks or so | 12:14 |
| cwayne | :) | 12:14 |
| cwayne | greyback: i love this app splashscreen | 12:14 |
| Saviq | tsdgeos, oh I wonder, does the "swipe to close" work with multiple fingers? :D | 12:31 |
| === pete-woods-away is now known as pete-woods | ||
| * greyback thinks its more natural to swipe away from you to close apps | 12:35 | |
| anpok | webos did that | 12:36 |
| anpok | or still does that | 12:36 |
| greyback | true | 12:36 |
| cwayne | oh man i loved webos | 12:37 |
| anpok | i frequently do that by accident on ubuntu .. especially when in the right edge app switcher | 12:37 |
| paulliu | tsdgeos: ok. done. | 12:38 |
| paulliu | tsdgeos: I really don't understand bzr merge. I didn't modify main.cpp at all but I need to solve the conflict on main.cpp | 12:39 |
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| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g | ||
| tsdgeos | Saviq: lol, you want to close 3 at the same time? | 13:03 |
| Saviq | tsdgeos, or 8 :D | 13:03 |
| Saviq | dunno if I can do 10 | 13:03 |
| tsdgeos | Saviq: is this a requirement? | 13:04 |
| Saviq | tsdgeos, no, ;) | 13:04 |
| Saviq | tsdgeos, but I can't imagine why it wouldn't work tbh | 13:05 |
| tsdgeos | actually i should fix it | 13:05 |
| tsdgeos | you can drag two | 13:05 |
| tsdgeos | or more, just tried two | 13:05 |
| Saviq | good ;) | 13:05 |
| tsdgeos | but i think i have code that assumes just one | 13:05 |
| tsdgeos | and the second breaks | 13:05 |
| tsdgeos | and is left lying in the middle of the drag | 13:05 |
| tsdgeos | so either limit it to 1 | 13:05 |
| tsdgeos | or make it work | 13:05 |
| tsdgeos | Saviq: i think i'm going to limit it to one | 13:09 |
| tsdgeos | for now | 13:09 |
| Saviq | http://nooooooooooooooo.com/ | 13:09 |
| * tedg wonders how many words Saviq has bookmarks for | 13:11 | |
| Saviq | eofl | 13:11 |
| Saviq | rofl | 13:11 |
| Saviq | end of the floor, laughing | 13:12 |
| Saviq | good I'm not on my balcony | 13:12 |
| tedg | Heh, yes! | 13:12 |
| Saviq | tedg, bookmarks are so 80's | 13:12 |
| Saviq | tedg, awesome bar FTW | 13:12 |
| tedg | Saviq, What do you see as the difference? I just see that as searchable bookmarks. | 13:13 |
| Saviq | tedg, I don't *put* stuff in there | 13:13 |
| Saviq | tedg, it just is | 13:13 |
| tedg | Saviq, Ah, it forgets too much for me to do that. | 13:14 |
| Saviq | yeah, my fallback is the Google machine | 13:14 |
| Saviq | but rarely need it | 13:14 |
| tedg | I use pinboard.in, it has nice chrome awesomebar integration "p ${search}" | 13:14 |
| tedg | https://pinboard.in/u:ted.gould | 13:15 |
| Saviq | chrome? maybe that's why it forgets too much :D | 13:15 |
| tedg | Ifttt integrates it with other stuff | 13:15 |
| Saviq | tsdgeos, remember how the carousel deals with clicked and pressAndHold? | 13:38 |
| tsdgeos | Saviq: what do you mean? | 13:38 |
| Saviq | tsdgeos, carousel itself emits clicked and pressAndHold signals, with index and delegate.y | 13:38 |
| tsdgeos | yes | 13:39 |
| tsdgeos | Saviq: for some reason here | 13:39 |
| tsdgeos | the dragging area of the second card | 13:39 |
| tsdgeos | was getting the drag y of the first one | 13:39 |
| om26er | how to autopilot tests with the split greeter ? just stop unity and start the tests ? | 13:39 |
| tsdgeos | so that's why it wasn't working | 13:39 |
| Saviq | tsdgeos, how about instead we say that the delegate needs to have a clicked and pressAndHold callables (function / signal), and let it deal with what it needs internally? | 13:39 |
| Saviq | om26er, unlock, and run phablet-test-run -n unity8 | 13:40 |
| Saviq | om26er, you can use the unlock_script (on your host) to unlock programatically (but easier to just unlock yourself) | 13:40 |
| tsdgeos | Saviq: what's the benefit of that? | 13:40 |
| Saviq | tsdgeos, no knowledge in Carousel of what CardCarousel needs | 13:41 |
| Saviq | tsdgeos, the delegate knows what it needs instead | 13:41 |
| om26er | Saviq, ok, btw is the silo being tested ? | 13:41 |
| Saviq | om26er, yes, I'm running ap now | 13:41 |
| Saviq | om26er, and will go through testplan just after | 13:41 |
| tsdgeos | Saviq: can do i guess, seems a big-ish refactory for only a "small" teoretical/architectural imprivement | 13:42 |
| tsdgeos | Saviq: but sure, makes kind of sense | 13:42 |
| Saviq | tsdgeos, huh? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7601829/ | 13:43 |
| Saviq | tsdgeos, not a huge refactor :) | 13:43 |
| Saviq | tsdgeos, otherwise we'd need to pass the whole delegate, or build knowledge into Carousel | 13:43 |
| Saviq | (sure, tests need fixing) | 13:44 |
| Saviq | tsdgeos, ideally we'd just pass the input to the delegate, but that's kinda impossible now | 13:44 |
| tsdgeos | why are you passing the result to pressAndHold? | 13:45 |
| tsdgeos | yeah smaller than what my head was thinking | 13:46 |
| Saviq | tsdgeos, scopes plugin requires it for activation | 13:46 |
| Saviq | tsdgeos, and we need to allow for activation on long press now (scope decides per-category) | 13:46 |
| tsdgeos | ^_^ | 13:46 |
| Saviq | tsdgeos, so we're getting rid of the if (scope == "click" && category == "local") | 13:46 |
| Saviq | tsdgeos, not like it will ever get used | 13:46 |
| tsdgeos | Saviq: there's this thing called CarouselDelegate or something | 13:47 |
| tsdgeos | document the functions there | 13:47 |
| Saviq | BaseCarouselDelegate | 13:47 |
| tsdgeos | or actually create empty ones | 13:47 |
| Saviq | which we're not using | 13:47 |
| tsdgeos | we are | 13:47 |
| tsdgeos | in the tests | 13:47 |
| tsdgeos | :D | 13:47 |
| Saviq | ;) | 13:51 |
| Saviq | tsdgeos, btw, this could be an addition to QML | 13:54 |
| tsdgeos | inheritance? | 13:54 |
| tsdgeos | virtual functions? | 13:55 |
| tsdgeos | multiple inheritance? | 13:55 |
| Saviq | tsdgeos, sometimes having to create a CardCarouselDelegate just to base it off of a BaseCarouselDelegate is painful | 13:55 |
| Saviq | tsdgeos, so yeah, inheritance | 13:55 |
| Saviq | something like | 13:55 |
| tsdgeos | multiple inheritance + abstract functions would be cool | 13:55 |
| tsdgeos | basically | 13:55 |
| tsdgeos | interfaces | 13:55 |
| Saviq | Loader:BaseCarouselDelegate { foo } | 13:55 |
| Saviq | yeah | 13:55 |
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| MacSlow | Did the system-wide theme used by Qt-apps break for anybody with any recent update pulled? | 14:45 |
| cwayne | mzanetti: greyback: dandrader: have you guys seen this on n4 landscape? http://people.canonical.com/~cwayne/overlay.png | 15:22 |
| greyback | tsdgeos: ^^ | 15:23 |
| tsdgeos | i didn't even know we could put the n4 in landsacape | 15:24 |
| dandrader | cwayne, no... | 15:24 |
| * greyback EOW | 15:24 | |
| greyback | bye all! | 15:24 |
| mzanetti | bye greyback | 15:27 |
| mzanetti | cwayne: I've seen this on trunk too | 15:27 |
| mzanetti | with portrait | 15:27 |
| mzanetti | tsdgeos: re landscape, check out the QtCompositor ppa | 15:27 |
| mzanetti | or well, there's the rotation anyways... no need for you to check it out atm | 15:28 |
| tsdgeos | dandrader: ping | 15:39 |
| dandrader | tsdgeos, pong | 15:39 |
| tsdgeos | dandrader: about the EdgeDragEvaluator | 15:39 |
| tsdgeos | it doesn't do what i'm doing (which is what designers designed), no? i just "finish" the animation if they moved more than 1gu and the velocity is > 600 | 15:40 |
| tsdgeos | the EdgeDragEvaluator seems to have a distance that even if you are not moving at 600 it will be completed | 15:40 |
| dandrader | tsdgeos, yes, it's more sophisticated | 15:40 |
| dandrader | tsdgeos, the farther away away you drag, the less velocity is needed for the action to complete | 15:41 |
| tsdgeos | right | 15:41 |
| tsdgeos | not sure that's what deisgners want there | 15:41 |
| tsdgeos | dandrader: is that what we use for launcher? | 15:41 |
| dandrader | tsdgeos, up to a point where no velocity is needed. where actually you would need a negative-direction velocity to avoid auto-completion | 15:41 |
| dandrader | tsdgeos, in short: the smaller the drag, the bigger the velocity must be for the action to be accepted | 15:42 |
| tsdgeos | right | 15:42 |
| tsdgeos | i unerstand | 15:42 |
| tsdgeos | doesn't seem to be what designers wanted | 15:43 |
| tsdgeos | or not what the prototype does | 15:43 |
| dandrader | dandrader, but if it feels better, it can be proposed. I believe it yields less unwanted actions and is still easy to achieve an intented action | 15:44 |
| dandrader | s/dandrader/tsdgeos :) | 15:44 |
| dandrader | tsdgeos, I actually made this up by playing with android's indicator panel (opening and closing it) :) | 15:45 |
| dandrader | tsdgeos, so it's used in ubuntu's panel, lock screen and stage | 15:45 |
| dandrader | tsdgeos, you known, design is an experimental, always changing, thing | 15:46 |
| tsdgeos | dandrader: i understand you think it may be better, i'm eow'ing nowish though and next week i'll be busy with QtCS, maybe you can find time to replace the parts of code i have that use draggingArea with that? | 15:47 |
| tsdgeos | dandrader: we're reaching that point where imho it's better if we "do" something than if we "perfect" something | 15:47 |
| dandrader | tsdgeos, sure. incremental evolution/improvements is always a good approach | 15:48 |
| tsdgeos | agreed, i'd vote for landing this if the code is not awful and design thinks its ok | 15:49 |
| tsdgeos | and then we can propose using the EdgeDragEvaluator after RTM | 15:50 |
| dandrader | tsdgeos, not for me to say. I just made a suggestion over there | 15:51 |
| dandrader | haven't actually tried that branch yet | 15:51 |
| dandrader | I mostly wanted people to be aware of this component so that it might get more wide spread use and improvements | 15:52 |
| tsdgeos | i see | 15:53 |
| mzanetti | dandrader: tsdgeos: yeah... I had the same issue for the short right edge flick too | 15:57 |
| mzanetti | its a pity that we're not using a component we prepared just for this kind of stuff | 15:57 |
| cwayne | dandrader: mzanetti: some crash files from the n4 running with shell-rotation: https://chinstrap.canonical.com/~joc/n4-crashes/ | 15:58 |
| mzanetti | dandrader: I think we should make EdgeDragEvaluator support this use case and then make use of it in the stages code | 15:58 |
| mzanetti | cwayne: hmm... I don't think those are related to unity8 crashing. Do you still see many unity8 crashes? | 15:59 |
| mzanetti | cwayne: its working quite smoothly here by now. don't think I had a crash today | 15:59 |
| mzanetti | well, no visible one at least | 15:59 |
| cwayne | mzanetti: joc has seen a few on the n4, let me get him in here to share how he did it | 16:00 |
| mzanetti | dandrader: https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/swipe_down_close_no_remove_dash/+merge/221996/comments/532741 | 16:09 |
| dandrader | mzanetti, ok | 16:12 |
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| xnox | tedg: are you about? | 16:32 |
| * tedg checks about me | 16:32 | |
| tedg | xnox, What's up? | 16:33 |
| xnox | tedg: i have a PPA with upstart+cgroups that is usable on amd64/i386/armhf both for system and user level jobs | 16:33 |
| tedg | Oooh, sexy. | 16:33 |
| tedg | xnox, Link/ | 16:33 |
| tedg | ? | 16:33 |
| xnox | tedg: there are a couple of tricks (a) one needs to call initctl notify-cgroupsmanager-address (b) one needs to specify at least one "cgroup" stanza in the job to get it cgroupsify | 16:34 |
| xnox | (e.g. "cgroup cpu") | 16:34 |
| xnox | tedg: it's in https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-foundations/+recipe/upstart-daily-nonvirt | 16:34 |
| tedg | xnox, Do I need to notify in the user session? | 16:34 |
| tedg | Seems like there's no way it could be started there. | 16:35 |
| xnox | tedg: yes, you do need to notify in the user session as well. Which i think is a miss-normer. | 16:35 |
| xnox | tedg: i might add a user-session job "start on startup" which does a sanity check that cgroupmanager is available, and if yes sends notification to user-session init. | 16:36 |
| xnox | tedg: but yeah, it shouldn't be necessary on user-session at all. I'll chat with jodh about it. | 16:36 |
| tedg | xnox, Cool, makes sense. If it was a job that'd work too really. Not sure which makes the code simpler. | 16:37 |
| tedg | xnox, When's the next upstart release? | 16:37 |
| tedg | I want the SetEnvList feature too :-) | 16:38 |
| * tedg is demanding | 16:38 | |
| xnox | tedg: it works very well, I've made bogus expect stanzas & made a fork-bomb, and upstart job ended up as "stop/waiting" yet all dangaling remaining processes that where left about where in the correct cgroup. And the stanza is very flexible you can do specify/expand names of cgroups as needed and do settings etc. | 16:38 |
| xnox | tedg: SetEnvList is in that ppa. | 16:38 |
| xnox | tedg: currently next release is blocked on test-suite failures on arm64 & powerpc, and merging the fix for umask (where umask is lost across re-execs) | 16:39 |
| xnox | tedg: and we are hunting a fantom race we introduced, which we are not yet sure if it's a real bug, memory-leak, or mostly harmless =) | 16:39 |
| tedg | Yeah, would love to drop the url-dispatcher work around for that too. | 16:39 |
| tedg | (umask) | 16:40 |
| xnox | hm. yeah. | 16:40 |
| xnox | tedg: i'll check if SetEnvList & umask fixes are cherry-pickable stand-alone into current upstart. It's all the changes that were needed for cgroups that we believe are causing the build-failures on arm64 & ppc64el. | 16:41 |
| tedg | xnox, Eh, if the others are close I can wait. More showing excitement :-) | 16:43 |
| tedg | The reason to use SetEnvList is for performance, so we'll need to measure it with the cgroups as well. | 16:43 |
| tedg | I have a branch for it, but I used SetEnvMulti :-) | 16:44 |
| xnox | tedg: yeah, it got renamed a couple of times. | 16:45 |
| xnox | naming things is hard | 16:45 |
| tedg | xnox, http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3377#comic | 16:46 |
| xnox | tedg: how is app-launch rename going along? | 16:46 |
| xnox | tedg: you do know that all coreapps projects used to have ubuntu- prefix and all got renamed to drop the prefix?! =) | 16:47 |
| tedg | xnox, Good, done mostly. There were a couple of bugs to iron out, and a stressful day yesterday, but it looks okay now. | 16:47 |
| tedg | Heh, good. | 16:47 |
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| xnox | tedg: never heard of SMBC, that one is funny | 16:48 |
| tedg | xnox, Oh, it's a great comic. Don't start, it's an addiction. | 16:48 |
| xnox | i do dilbert & xkcd | 16:48 |
| tedg | Ah, the gateway comics | 16:51 |
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| cwayne | mzanetti: hey, found an issue with the app splash-screen -- seems to mangle chinese characters | 19:04 |
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| mzanetti | meh... | 19:05 |
| mzanetti | let me have a look | 19:05 |
| mzanetti | cwayne: what can I test it with? | 19:11 |
| mzanetti | is there something in the store? | 19:12 |
| cwayne | mzanetti: you can untar this to / on a phone to get some clicks http://people.canonical.com/~cwayne/click.tgz | 19:14 |
| cwayne | not sure of anything in the store | 19:15 |
| mzanetti | thnks | 19:15 |
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| cwayne | mzanetti: i got it to at least show the english in the splash-screen, so we should be somewhat okay | 20:51 |
| slangasek | bschaefer, Trevinho, bregma: so the unity SRU into trusty has had some possible regressions identified by the phased updater - crashes not seen in previous versions of unity (at least, not that the error tracker can determine). Who can look at these? https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/8fc148da910ae3d63758f6e96174a502860a6b95 https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/01c1227584de3b96094e513b6edb6c7d22f4801b | 21:08 |
| bschaefer | slangasek, thank you for letting us know, ill take a look now | 21:10 |
| slangasek | bschaefer: great, thanks | 21:11 |
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