[01:56] <waf> ...man, nothing like java-talk to kill a channel.
[02:26] <rick_h_> :P
[05:30] <greg-g> for cmaloney http://i.imgur.com/bZcRPFL.gif
[05:30] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/awQfJn - image/gif
[11:23] <rick_h_> morning
[11:59] <cmaloney> morn
[12:03] <cmaloney> greg-g: love it. :)
[12:24] <mrgoodcat> hey
[13:18] <cmaloney> .np squeekyhoho
[13:18] <bookiebot> squeekyhoho's current track - Killer Inside Me by MC 900 Ft Jesus on Welcome to My Dream
[13:41] <cmaloney> .np squeekyhoho
[13:41] <bookiebot> squeekyhoho's current track - King of the Universe by Planet X on Universe
[14:37] <mrgoodcat> you guys know there is no "continue" statement for excel macros?
[14:37] <mrgoodcat> brousch__: to be fair they are direct competitors...
[14:38] <brousch__> Now the only thing I still use on Yahoo is dead to me
[14:40] <cmaloney> brousch__: Yahoo can die in a fire indeed.
[14:40] <rick_h_> really? Remind me how I can sign into google with my MS account?
[14:40] <rick_h_> why is this a firing offense?
[14:40] <mrgoodcat> yahoo can die in a fire but removing google/facebook sign in has nothing to do with that for me
[14:41] <brousch__> It's a firing offense because the only thing I use on Yahoo is flickr via google account
[14:41] <rick_h_> ok, so use flickr with your own flickr accoutn
[14:41] <rick_h_> I don't get it
[14:42] <brousch__> Is it just a flickr account, or is a yahoo account?
[14:42] <cmaloney> it' a Yahoo accout
[14:42] <cmaloney> so you get Yahoo Mail (which can die in a fire)
[14:42] <rick_h_> it's a yahoo account, just as your google docs account is a gmail accoutn
[14:42] <rick_h_> account
[14:42] <rick_h_> yay, I want google plus without gmail :P
[14:42] <cmaloney> gmail rules
[14:42] <rick_h_> I don't get the hate for something working like every other thing out there working
[14:42] <cmaloney> Yahoo Mail makes baby Jesus sad
[14:42] <brousch__> Google good. Yahoo sucks
[14:42] <rick_h_> it seems like some sort of M$ crap hate stuff
[14:43] <rick_h_> except you want to use flickr...which is yahoo...
[14:43] <cmaloney> flickr good
[14:43] <brousch__> The rest of yahoo sucks
[14:43] <cmaloney> flickr was good
[14:43] <cmaloney> now flickr bad
[14:43] <rick_h_> ok, then flickr bad. diaf seems extreme, though I have to say flickr better than the stupid google photos crap
[14:44] <brousch__> Yes it is
[14:44] <rick_h_> I still can't figure out how to share a link to a photo directly
[14:44] <brousch__> All photo sites sucks
[14:45] <brousch__> I might go back to smugmug
[14:47]  * rick_h_ looks at 500px
[14:48] <brousch__> Has anyone set up a mediagoblin instance?
[14:48] <rick_h_> no, that requires work. I'm paying for a temp reviewboard instance to try it out because I don't have time to setup services
[14:49] <brousch__> Don't you work for a team whose job it is to make service setup easier?
[14:50] <rick_h_> brousch__: yea, if this works out I'll work on updating the reviewboard charm, get it launched in a cloud provider, and run it from there.
[14:50] <rick_h_> but to test "is this worth the time to use" paying a few $$ and trying it is easier
[15:09] <mrgoodcat> rick_h_: make a photo app
[15:10] <rick_h_> no
[15:11] <mrgoodcat> lol
[15:11] <mrgoodcat> just no
[15:11] <brousch__> I bmark all photos in dropbox and use unique tags to create albums
[15:39] <mrgoodcat> whats with all this "TDD is dead" stuff?
[15:43] <jrwren> just DHH being stupid.
[15:45] <mrgoodcat> this one is kent beck
[15:49] <mrgoodcat> so actually it's not
[15:49] <mrgoodcat> it's just a conversation between kent beck and dhh about tdd
[15:58] <rick_h_> DHH did a talk where he ranted against TDD and people were complaining that doing TDD in RoR is hard because DHH doesn't buy in
[15:59] <rick_h_> and DDH's answer to RoR being hard to do good TDD was "$%@#$#@ TDD, it's pointless anyway"
[15:59] <rick_h_> and then the fireworks started
[16:00] <rick_h_> it all comes back down to "do the testing that works for you and your code by doing testing dammit"
[16:00] <mrgoodcat> yea thats pretty much what kent said
[16:02] <cmaloney> brousch__: I thought about installing a Mediagoblin instance but not sure how to get Python to run under PHP. :)
[16:03] <cmaloney> I think the whole TDD as religion got a little out of hand
[16:03] <cmaloney> Much like Agile where you had to have consultants tell you how to be Agile
[16:03] <brousch__> cmaloney: wat?
[16:10] <jrwren> cmaloney: big A v. little a for agile :)
[16:12] <cmaloney> jrwren: And that's part of the problem.
[16:12] <cmaloney> What used to be catholic became Catholic.
[16:16] <jrwren> pythonistas... i'm getting a ValueError: Attempted relative import in non-package, on a module where I do have a __init__.py :(
[16:16] <cmaloney> Where are you doing the import?
[16:16] <rick_h_> I'd guess the relative means the package you're looking at isn't the one you think it is
[16:17] <jrwren> in a module in that package
[16:17] <jrwren> maybe not.  weird.
[16:17] <jrwren> setup.py strikes again... maybe :)
[16:19] <jrwren> someday i'm going to be a python module and package  master... someday :p
[16:21] <jrwren> from __future__ import absolute_import is behaving exactly opposite as I expected, I think.
[16:55] <jrwren> ya know what is tedius?  correctly getting multiple decorators applied to a single function, both manipulating kwargs
[16:57] <rick_h_> hmm, delicious go boom? http://r.bmark.us/u/5213759470bdb2
[17:00] <brousch__> rick_h_: It says "selling off Delicious", so someone will be newly motivated to keep it going
[17:01] <greg-g> brousch__: you assume they'll buy it for more than the one time social data
[17:04] <brousch__> greg-g: I saw some single-person hammock/tents and thought of you camping
[17:04] <greg-g> :)
[17:04]  * rick_h_ dreams of breaking out the hennesey hammock sometime
[17:05] <brousch__> We're going to Jellystone at Silver Lake tomorrow - Monday
[17:05] <brousch__> Tent and cots
[17:09] <brousch__> How dangerous is it to camp in a canoe?
[17:09] <cmaloney> .np squeekyhoho
[17:09] <bookiebot> squeekyhoho's last track - You Are My The Rock by Alpha Male Tea Party on Droids [6 Jun 2014, 16:38]
[17:10] <rick_h_> in the canoe?
[17:10] <cmaloney> Make sure it's aluminum so you'll be safe during a thunderstorm.
[17:11] <brousch__> rick_h_: Yeah, sounds kind of peaceful
[17:11] <jrwren> watch out for sharks!
[17:11] <rick_h_> point it down the middle of the river
[17:11] <cmaloney> .np squeekyhoho
[17:11] <bookiebot> squeekyhoho's current track - Reach For The Stars Kid But Don't Blame Me If It Makes You Miserable by Alpha Male Tea Party
[17:11] <cmaloney> Dammit, I didn't catch the right title
[17:12] <jrwren> .np evarlast
[17:12] <bookiebot> evarlast's current track - Undone by Rotersand on Welcome To Goodbye
[17:12] <cmaloney> http://superstardestroyer.bandcamp.com/album/droids
[17:12] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/zDy3Ya - Droids | Superstar Destroyer Records
[17:12] <cmaloney> The titles of the tracks are pretty funny
[17:15] <cmaloney> not to mention the songs are very good
[17:15]  * cmaloney picked up the CD.
[17:16] <cmaloney> .np squeekyhoho
[17:16] <bookiebot> squeekyhoho's current track - I Haven't Had A Lunch Break Since Windows Vista Came Out by Alpha Male Tea Party
[17:19] <brousch__> Heh https://twitter.com/stevekovach/status/474938524211634176/photo/1
[17:19] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/jI1edi - Twitter / stevekovach: So Apple uses Macs running ...
[17:20] <cmaloney> Why is this surprising?
[17:20] <cmaloney> The software they use is likely not Mac compatible. :)
[17:29] <jrwren> remember when apple stores used Windows CE hand held devices to check you out?
[17:31] <brousch__> I have never bought anything at an Apple store
[17:38] <jrwren> hehe, i'm gonna buy a new mac book air and run ubuntu on it :p
[17:39] <rick_h_> have fun, it's a :( thing
[17:39] <rick_h_> as somone running ubuntu on an air
[17:39] <brousch__> What is sad about it?
[17:39] <jrwren> rick_h_: yeah, what is sad about it?
[17:39] <rick_h_> lack of camera, crappy keyboard, lack of battery life, sorry touchpad support/integration and inability to not bump it
[17:40] <jrwren> i LOVE 13" mac book air. I've never seen anything that comes close.
[17:40] <rick_h_> lack of middle-click, lack of ways around middle-click paste, and giant screen bezel on the 11" model sucks
[17:40] <jrwren> ok... correction... i'm gonna buy a new mac book air and run ubuntu in parallels :p
[17:41] <rick_h_> fusion works ok
[17:41] <rick_h_> but that just means osx picks up all the stupid key bindings you want to use in linux which sucks as well
[17:42] <jrwren> ok... correction... i'm not gonna run ubuntu on a laptop :p
[18:20] <mrgoodcat> how 2 scrobble pandora? anybody have a good ff or chrome extension?
[18:43] <cmaloney> They had iphones the last time I was there.
[18:43] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: I use a Logitech Squeezebox for all my listening
[18:43] <cmaloney> I think you could use Pandora under that and have it stream / scrobble.
[18:46] <cmaloney> Hey, anyone want to do C#, .Net, Oracle SQL and JAVA for Oakland County?
[18:46] <cmaloney> ping me.
[18:51] <mrgoodcat> cmaloney: is it a job or just one project?
[18:52] <rick_h_> lol you're funny
[18:53] <mrgoodcat> me or cmaloney?
[19:30] <greg-g> cmaloney: I forgot how much I liked Tomahawk
[19:31]  * greg-g is re-ripping to flac some CDs that I lost my oggs of in The Great Harddrive Disaster of 2013
[19:36] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: I can forward you the notice if you want
[19:36] <cmaloney> pm me your email address.
[19:36] <mrgoodcat> sure why not
[19:36] <jrwren> greg-g: *gsap*
[19:37] <jrwren> greg-g: you didn't itunes match?  :p
[19:37] <greg-g> guh wha?
[19:38] <greg-g> it's now managed in git-annex in two main locations (not counting ephemeral laptop subset): 1 external harddrive on my desk, my NAS which is a 2 drive RAID 1.
[19:53] <greg-g> .np Phlegethon
[19:54] <bookiebot> Phlegethon's current track - Flashback by Tomahawk on Tomahawk
[20:07] <brousch__> cmaloney: Did you see LEGO's new line of female scientist minifigs?
[20:08] <brousch__> Your wife is in there
[20:54] <cmaloney> brousch__: Yeah, I saw those.
[20:56] <cmaloney> Pretty cool. :)
[22:03] <greg-g> .np Phlegethon
[22:03] <bookiebot> Phlegethon's current track - Mayonnaise by WookieFoot on Domesticated
[22:23] <greg-g> "Doctor I confess I live IN sanity, and I'll be there if you need me."
[22:31] <greg-g> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z52dcA813BE
[22:31] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/DLLmLQ - Wookiefoot Out loud - YouTube
[23:14] <jrwren> oh man, next week is UDS already?
[23:14] <jrwren> sheesh!
[23:14] <jrwren> seems like it was just UDS 6 months ago :)
[23:18] <greg-g> where is it?   :P