[02:54] <InHisName> the bear is gone again
[07:26] <JonathanD> Morning.
[09:09] <rmg51> Morning
[10:04] <JonathanD> hey rmg51
[10:05] <rmg51> o/
[10:05] <JonathanD> How goes?
[10:13] <rmg51> going alright
[10:27] <JonathanD> Good to hear.
[12:02] <InHisName> Morning
[12:12] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, dogs, turkeys, hamsters and everything else
[14:00] <pvl1> morning
[17:58] <ChinnoDog> How can Amazon and Google Books claim no ebook is available for a book when they can show me previews of random pages?
[17:59] <InHisName> cause THEY scanned it but it is not a released ebook version ?
[18:00] <cyberanger> or they don't have the rights to sell, but it's covered in a book preview license
[18:00] <ChinnoDog> So they could sell it as PDF.
[18:00] <pleia2> not if they don't have the rights to
[18:00] <ChinnoDog> I'd be satisfied with that.
[18:00] <ChinnoDog> But they have the rights to tease me with random pages of it online.
[18:00] <pleia2> the publisher/author needs to give permission to sell their copyrighted work
[18:01] <pleia2> yep, they do
[18:01] <pleia2> the court case about this was kind of a big deal (and still going through appeals)
[18:01] <pleia2> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authors_Guild_v._Google
[18:03]  * pleia2 still has mixed feelings about it
[18:08] <ChinnoDog> I just read the article. That is interesting. What I want to know is... if an author writes a book and it ends up on Google books why would they not want to make it for sale there?
[18:08] <ChinnoDog> That seems like a huge source of lost revenue.
[18:56]  * adom loves the ability to add pirated ebooks to his Google Books library for free.
[18:56] <adom> Just sayin.
[19:36] <SamuraiWork> good bacon to all and to all some good bacon!
[20:01] <ChinnoDog> adom: I did not realize I could upload books until you said that. But, there is a 1000 book limit. Can I get them back out if I want to?
[20:07] <SamuraiWork> So...  Should I seperate my EMAIL and WEB servers, physically?
[20:08] <MutantTurkey> ....
[20:08] <MutantTurkey> why
[20:08] <MutantTurkey> reliability?
[20:08] <MutantTurkey> i mean a 'server' is just a program running on your physical server
[20:09] <SamuraiWork> Just curious
[20:09] <SamuraiWork> I'm running 14.04 LTS server
[20:09] <SamuraiWork> http://hostminecraft4.me/content
[20:10] <MutantTurkey> irrelevant
[20:10] <MutantTurkey> it's all about what you want
[20:10] <MutantTurkey> if you are worried one process will slow down the others, and it is hogging all the cpu, then yeah you might want to host it alone
[20:10] <MutantTurkey> if you are worried about reliablity then you might want to separate them, but servers fail less often then your strategic bottleneck
[20:11] <MutantTurkey> if your internet goes out, all your servers are down.
[20:11] <MutantTurkey>  if you're hosted virtually, you're likely to never see any downtime
[20:12] <SamuraiWork> I wish I had FIOS here.  I have 2 120mbit comcast lines, atm
[20:12] <SamuraiWork> I'd prefer one comcast, one FIOS, load balancing, and failover
[20:21] <MutantTurkey> no that's no good either
[20:22] <MutantTurkey> you should have your local router reroute to whatever is best
[20:22] <MutantTurkey> then if one fails drop to the next
[20:22] <MutantTurkey> FiOS is great!
[20:31] <SamuraiWork> The nice thing about 2 comcast modems, is I can resolve my domain :)
[20:31] <MutantTurkey> nice
[20:52] <SamuraiWork> how does the site look?
[20:52] <MutantTurkey> fine
[20:52] <MutantTurkey> what site?
[20:52] <MutantTurkey> eh not my style
[20:52] <MutantTurkey> but my style ain't your style either
[20:52] <MutantTurkey> http://mutantturkey.com/
[22:45] <waltman> SamuraiWork: It depends -- are you running Windows or Linux? :)