[05:01] <Kilos> hi arnaudmez_  did you get sorted?
[05:01] <Kilos> morning all and sundry
[06:20] <bduk1> Morning all
[06:33] <Kilos> hi bduk1  
[06:43] <JabberwockyA19> morning zasters :)
[06:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning all
[07:20] <Private_User> morning all
[07:21] <Private_User> morning Kilos
[07:21] <Private_User> morning bduk1
[07:21] <Private_User> morning JabberwockyA19
[07:22] <Private_User> morning ThatGraemeGuy
[07:22] <Kilos> hi Private_User  
[07:22] <Kilos> ohi ThatGraemeGuy  too
[07:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo
[07:30] <JabberwockyA19> hi Private_User, ThatGraemeGuy Kilos
[07:30]  * JabberwockyA19 is frozen solid fingersr can't type
[07:30] <Kilos> hi JabberwockyA19  
[07:31] <Kilos> yip same here so im making food and warming hands in dishwater every now and again
[07:31] <Kilos> wind blowing right of the drakensburg snow
[07:33] <Kilos> the pro must be battling after a bike trip to work this worning
[07:44] <bduk1> Julle is vol piep man
[07:51] <inetpro> goeie more
[07:52] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo
[08:03] <Vince-0> o/
[08:09] <Kilos> lo inetpro  
[08:09] <Kilos> stupid modem with its show online lie again
[08:10] <Kilos> only know im offline when maaz dont make coffee
[08:10] <Kilos> hi arnaudmez  
[08:10] <arnaudmez> Hello
[08:10] <arnaudmez> hi Kilos 
[08:11] <arnaudmez> i'm really going through hard time with ubuntu since this morning
[08:11] <Kilos> tell us whats happening or not happening
[08:12] <Kilos> mine just worked and still using the install from 2 weeks before release
[08:24] <JabberwockyA19> bitbucket is offline >:(
[08:24]  * JabberwockyA19 loves github
[08:26] <Kilos-> ai!
[08:27] <Kilos-> arnaudmez  you gotta explain again i got connection probs
[08:31] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee on
[08:31]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[08:31] <Kilos> yay
[08:35] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[08:35] <Kilos> Maaz  gracias
[08:35] <Maaz> Kilos: ¡de nada!
[08:38] <Kilos> hi die_held  
[08:44] <arnaudmez> i've upgraded to new kernel and also have done some security updates but since that time i have problems connecting to Wifi
[08:44] <arnaudmez> Kilos, 
[08:44] <arnaudmez> Kilos, have to revert to old kernel 3.13.0-24
[08:44] <arnaudmez> with that kernel it works perfectly
[08:46] <arnaudmez> Kilos, in the same time when i look at kernel.org website, the current kernel is 3.14.5
[08:47] <arnaudmez> my question now is, when is ubuntu going to move to this latest and stable kernel version ?
[08:51] <Kilos> wow
[08:52] <Kilos> lets see if there are any more peeps here using wifi
[08:53] <Kilos> even ask at #ubuntu but you need to be quick to follow them sometimes
[09:32] <Private_User> hmm... internet seems a bit slow or is it just me...or the weather, very windy here and I am on 3G
[09:32]  * Kilos needs to reboot after upgrade. wbb
[09:35] <Kilos> hmm...
[09:37] <Kilos> everything still works
[09:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> you sound disappointed
[09:40] <Private_User> lol
[09:41] <Kilos> no man happy
[09:47] <ThatGraemeGuy> :-D
[09:56] <Kilos> i get frightened when others tell about things not working after upgrades
[09:59] <Kilos> peeps should use aptitude upgrade , methinks it sees potential probs and gives workarounds
[10:11] <mazal> Everything fine here after update , but I don't use wi-fi though
[10:20] <charl_> good afternoon
[10:20] <charl_> Maaz: coffee on
[10:20]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[10:24] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl_!
[10:27] <charl_> Maaz: thanks
[10:27] <Maaz> charl_: No problem
[12:45] <mazal> Bye everyone , enjoy your weekend
[13:18] <arnaudmez> hello
[13:18] <arnaudmez> Kilos, 
[13:19] <arnaudmez> did someone here tried to install kernel 3.14.5 on his ubuntu installation ?
[13:22] <Kilos> is that the current kernel arnaudmez  ?
[13:22] <Kilos> lemme try find what i have
[13:22] <arnaudmez> yes Kilos 
[13:23] <Kilos> i upgraded about 2 hours back
[13:23] <arnaudmez> i've seen a tips on internet http://www.sysads.co.uk/2014/06/install-linux-kernel-3-14-5-ubuntu-14-04-linux-mint-17/
[13:23] <Kilos> i let aptitude do the upgrade
[13:23] <arnaudmez> want to make one of us did install it and didn't have issue with 
[13:24] <Kilos> how do i get my kernel version other than in muon
[13:25] <Kilos> 3-13-0 to 24
[13:26] <Kilos> how come yours wants to install 3.14.5
[13:27] <Kilos> arnaudmez  ^^
[13:27] <Kilos> its not in official upgrades yet looks like
[14:05] <charl_> arnaudmez: just out of curiosity, why do you want the new kernel ?
[14:50] <arnaudmez> hi charl_ just want to make sure i use the latest version
[14:52] <arnaudmez> charl_, i did update my system and kernel install that time just messed up my wifi card and i couldn't connect to any network so i had to revert to and older kernel version now i want to give a try to another kernel in order to see how it will react, that will help to understand if i have to remove these and stay with the good kernel (old) or not
[14:52] <arnaudmez> brb
[14:58] <arnaudmez> hi guys 
[14:58] <arnaudmez> i'm back
[14:59] <arnaudmez> installed the new 3.14.5 kernel and wifi working like a charm also i can see dropbox coming back to life
[14:59] <arnaudmez> wasn't the case with the buggy kernel i got from update two days ago
[15:06]  * theblazehen wonders if there will be some kind of "easter egg" in version 3.14.15
[15:18] <arnaudmez> theblazehen, :-)
[16:16] <Private_User> evening people
[16:17] <Private_User> anybody here know what are minimum requirements of setting up a web hosting services
[16:17] <Private_User> with min costs as well
[16:18] <Private_User> something that is good enough for basic hosting to maybe make a little money and build up the capital to eventually setup a good hosting services
[16:18] <Private_User> ?
[16:21] <smile> hi :p
[16:21] <Kilos> hi smile  
[16:22] <theblazehen> Private_User: yeah
[16:22] <theblazehen> You'd do fine with a $5 VPS
[16:22] <theblazehen> I like didgitalocean
[16:22] <theblazehen> digitalocean*
[16:22] <theblazehen> Then get cpanel installed for managing it
[16:22] <smile> hi Kilos and theblazehen :)
[16:22] <Private_User> excellent theblazehen please do tell cause I like to get into it
[16:22] <theblazehen> hey smile 
[16:23] <theblazehen> or manage it manually
[16:23] <smile> theblazehen: did you put your thumbs in the air? :p
[16:23] <theblazehen> smile: ?
[16:24] <smile> theblazehen: well my exam wasn't good, it was too hard or I was too stupid.. Why didn't you put your thumbs in the air for me? ;)
[16:25] <theblazehen> smile: I never knew you were writing!
[16:25] <theblazehen> What'd you write?
[16:25] <smile> I had statistics :P is that an answer to your question?
[16:26] <theblazehen> yeah
[16:26] <smile> It was hard, we got all the utilities we wanted (except Internet), but it was not doable in so less time (2 hours)
[16:27] <smile> too many questions. :P
[16:27] <theblazehen> ah :/
[16:27] <smile> I can do a second try in August :( (if that's needed)
[16:28] <smile> I hope not.. I'll know in 14 days from now (June 20)
[16:28] <smile> theblazehen: hug! :)
[16:29] <smile> my last exam is on Tuesday now :D (UML, Uniform Modelling Language)
[16:29] <smile> which is hard too
[16:29] <theblazehen> good luck!
[16:29] <Kilos> good luck smile
[16:30] <smile> thanks :D
[16:30] <Private_User> thanks theblazehen just googled digitalocean
[16:30] <smile> learning now. :p
[16:30] <theblazehen> Private_User: If you go with them mind using my referral? 
[16:31] <theblazehen> I owe them a few cents but minimum amount I can paypal is $5
[16:31] <Private_User> have you heard of youhosting?
[16:31] <Private_User> hmmm... smile what exams did you write today?
[16:31] <Private_User> are you with digitalocean or youhosting?
[16:33] <Private_User> theblazehen: ?
[16:34] <Private_User> theblazehen: what can on use digitalocean for maybe I am a  bit lazy to read everything so a summary please :D
[16:34] <theblazehen> Private_User: sorry was afk
[16:35] <Private_User> no worries theblazehen
[16:35] <theblazehen> Basically gives you a virtual server, 512 MB RAM, 20 GB SSD and 1TB transfer for $5 per month
[16:35] <theblazehen> Then you can load ubuntu on it, and set up the web hosting
[16:36] <Private_User> ok cool but do they allow one to host multiple domains?
[16:36] <theblazehen> yeah, use apache VirtualHosts or the nginx equivelant
[16:36] <theblazehen> I'd do nginx
[16:37] <Private_User> I was thinking of reselling. Are you doing the same or using it for your own personal use?
[16:37] <theblazehen> Personal use at the moment
[16:37] <Private_User> ok cool
[16:37] <theblazehen> Youhosting seems good, you can go with them as well. I just like being "in control" myself
[16:37] <Private_User> have you heard of youhosting? They provide free hosting services for reselling
[16:38] <Private_User> oh ok great
[16:38] <theblazehen> Looked them up
[16:39] <Private_User> what about centerserv? apparently they guarantee 100% uptime and not too bad pricing but seems to good to be true for me
[16:39] <theblazehen> If I see "100%" then I wouldn't trust them
[16:39] <theblazehen> even 99.99% is only 8 minutes down per year
[16:39] <Private_User> I have not heard of many people who provide 100% uptime on their servers
[16:40] <Private_User> yeah thats what I thought cause what about when they do updates or need to reboot server
[16:42] <Private_User> theblazehen: you can check their site the people who provide 100% uptime
[16:42] <Private_User> theblazehen: http://server.centerserv.com/
[16:43] <theblazehen> I wouldn't trust it. Their service NEVER goes down? Not even for 1 second/year?
[16:43] <Private_User> but I was looking at a few companies that offer reseller options but was also wondering what would I need as a minimum infrastructure setup to do it my self and what would be the potential costs?
[16:44] <theblazehen> What scale would you want to start out at?
[16:44] <Private_User> just something to do basic web hosting for clients cause I wanna do their website and then also offer to host it for them but in the begining it would just be for basic sites
[16:45] <Private_User> like a typical site with text and images
[16:45] <Private_User> so no databases or anything else
[16:45] <theblazehen> Yeah that reseller plan looks good, or if you don't use much dynamic content a $11/year VPS from microtronix
[16:45] <Private_User> maybe email
[16:51] <Private_User> not sure what happen there my modem just lost connectivity and got disconnected but I did not touch it
[16:52] <Private_User> last message I saw was about microtronix so if you gave me more info theblazehen I did not get it sorry
[16:59] <Private_User> thanks theblazehen their prices aint too bad
[16:59] <Private_User> any more good suggestions :)
[17:07] <Private_User> did you guys hear that MTN purchased 50% of Afrihost?
[17:07] <Private_User> many of their customers were very unhappy about that
[17:08] <Private_User> I am also a bit peeved that there are like almost no independent ICT providers
[17:28] <Kilos> inetpro  -1°c  and 18°c
[17:29] <Kilos> gaan met die kar werk toe
[18:22] <Kilos> poor bart living on cooked rat. i suppose dwarfs are used to that
[18:23] <Kilos> hi cocooncrash_  with a tail, how are you doing over there sir?
[19:20] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[22:46] <Private_User> evening people...actually no, morning people (already after 00:00)
[22:46] <Private_User> :D