[00:00] <mjuszczak> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/vLEXLz2M
[00:01] <daftykins> bugcy013: it sounds like you've booted setup in UEFI mode then, as Jordan_U is trying to assist you to determine
[00:01] <samthewildone> daftykins, i was
[00:01] <samthewildone> it was
[00:01] <bugcy013> am using preseed installation where i define the predefined partitions via PXE
[00:01] <Zen_Clark> I am running Ubuntu 13.10, and whenever I try to upgrade to 14.04 a kernel panic occurs. Is there somewhere where I can find log/crash information so I can make a proper report/request for help?
[00:02] <TJ-> Zen_Clark: "/var/log/kern.log"
[00:03] <ninjaaron> I have a digital ocean VPS with ubuntu in EST, but I actually live in CST. Should I set my server to CST, or does it matter if it syncs with my local network?
[00:05] <maddawg3> ninjaaron generally i put it to the most relevant time for what i use.. so if my server was on pacific but i'm on EST I'd set the server to EST
[00:05] <Zen_Clark> TJ-, Thanks.
[00:05] <maddawg3> doesnt really matter where it is, but i imagine you'd want your server to be reflecting the time you most often use
[00:06] <Darth_Mike> good day all looking for help with bind9 on ubuntu for dns'ing cant get it to work for the life of me! Can someone please shed some light into these configurations? I dont know how to point my domains to my IP's all i have are these example.com files. No real data so dont know how to get it to work
[00:06] <Darth_Mike> followed this guide and did everything they said: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=236093
[00:06] <ninjaaron> maddawg3: I'm just wondering because I know some services, like NFS, like to have the network time synced. Not that I'm using NFS on my server.
[00:06] <ninjaaron> not sure if it affects other services.
[00:07] <maddawg3> ninjaaron synced to what?
[00:07] <maddawg3> if you set EST as your timezone it will still sync
[00:07] <maddawg3> server could be in Austrialia for all it cares
[00:08] <bugcy013> Can I specify guided option in preseed and configure the partitions manually?
[00:08] <Jordan_U> mjuszczak: That looks like the output of "strace ls -al private" , not "strace ls /etc/ssl/".
[00:08] <ninjaaron> maddawg3: so, when I deploy NFS over LAN, it works much faster if I sync everything with NTP. Not sure if other services react similarly or not.
[00:08] <mjuszczak> Jordan_U: oops!  Sorry about that.
[00:09] <bugcy013> wont the installer create the boot loader partition automatically
[00:09] <maddawg3> yes but NTP is relative to what time zone you choose
[00:09] <mjuszczak> ls /etc/ssl works fine though.  Do you still want the strace against it?
[00:09] <maddawg3> you can still sync to ntp and use a different timezone from what your server is actually in
[00:09] <mjuszczak> ls /etc/ssl/private is what's giving me permission denied
[00:09] <zaning> anyone with a pos-suspend problem (screen freezes and then crushed, justo to freeze again before loading the desktop)
[00:09] <maddawg3> the important part is that the time matches some time zone and is synced for that time zone
[00:09] <ninjaaron> maddawg3: oh... right. computer thinks in UTC anyway. Sorry for my idiot question, and thanks for your patience.
[00:10] <Jordan_U> bugcy013: You need to have an EFI System Partition for installing on a UEFI based system.
[00:10] <samthewildone> daftykins, http://askubuntu.com/questions/155852/installing-chrome-java-plugin
[00:10] <samthewildone> daftykins, looks like there is no end to this problem...
[00:11] <Jordan_U> mjuszczak: Please pastebin the output of "strace ls /etc/ssl/private/" then. Please run that exact command.
[00:11] <mjuszczak> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/3FhTaqcT
[00:11] <mjuszczak> OK, I'll do that one too
[00:11] <daftykins> samthewildone: i've done it for someone with Firefox before :) via the method i mentioned
[00:12] <mjuszczak> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/jTwpsvMm
[00:12] <daftykins> samthewildone: however you said you are running the openjava, so perhaps that just won't work at all, no idea
[00:12] <daftykins> samthewildone: you still haven't done anything i've suggested to run though, so i'm afraid i'm going to go to bed and leave you to it now.
[00:13] <adamcunnington> How can i give an environment variable a 'nonetype', does it take none, None or null?
[00:17] <zaning>  anyone with a pos-suspend problem (screen freezes and then crushed, justo to freeze again before loading the desktop)
[00:17] <zaning> ??
[00:19] <Jordan_U> mjuszczak: Please pastebin the output of "explain open /etc/ssl/private/ -e EACCES".
[00:20] <Jordan_U> adamcunnington: What do you mean by a "nonetype"? Environment variables don't have "types". What is your end goal?
[00:21] <adamcunnington> Jordan_U: i want to be able to check it's value in python
[00:22] <mjuszczak> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/s1rKxiE1
[00:23] <Jordan_U> adamcunnington: OK. What does that have to do with "giving an environment variable a 'nonetype'"? What is your end goal?
[00:24] <Jordan_U> mjuszczak: As the openldap user please.
[00:25] <mjuszczak> oops, sorry copied the wrong one.  SAme error message though.
[00:25] <mjuszczak> http://pastebin.com/9j5PHWwA
[00:26] <Jordan_U> mjuszczak: Unfortunately that means that explain wasn't able to give us any more information than we already had :(
[00:27] <deepblue> i need help downloading folder link 1,2 and 3 please, http://books4electricians.blogspot.com/
[00:28] <mjuszczak> Jordan_U: :(
[00:28] <Jordan_U> mjuszczak: Please pastebin the output of "stat /etc/ssl/private/".
[00:31] <mjuszczak> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/aPXHYGtj
[00:31] <Jordan_U> mjuszczak:
[00:32] <Jordan_U> mjuszczak: Then you probably didn't run update-grub for the correct system. Which might explain the initramfs prompt since the entries would have an old root= kernel parameter.
[00:32] <Jordan_U> mjuszczak: Sorry, wrong person (and channel :)
[00:34] <Jordan_U> mjuszczak: I'm stumped. Anything interesting in "dmesg"?
[00:35] <Darth_Mike> anyone used Bind9 before? I dont want to get kicked for repeating the same question again even though its been a little while now...
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> Darth_Mike, Here you address the issue itself for help.
[00:38] <StuckMojo> i'm on 12.10. must i go to 13.10 to get to 14.04, or can i go direct?
[00:38] <mjuszczak> Jordan_U: FWIW, I copied /etc/ssl/private to /etc/ssl/private2 and once I did that I could access the contents.
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> StuckMojo, 12.10 to 13.04 to 13.10 to 14.04
[00:39] <StuckMojo> update-manager wants to take me to 13.10
[00:39] <nico103> hi
[00:39] <StuckMojo> hmph. well that sucks. ;)
[00:39] <StuckMojo> this is going to be tedious
[00:39] <nico103> I've got an old VM running Ubuntu 12.04, except I use it a lot
[00:40] <nico103> suddenly it won't update the display when I type (e.g., into a terminal, but not just) until I switch keyboard focus
[00:40] <nico103> the system complained about colord dying
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> StuckMojo, A fresh install might be a good option, 14.04 has 5 years support. You will have to use a eol upgrade, I think is why you are seeing 13.0.
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> !eol-upgrade | StuckMojo
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> !eol | StuckMojo
[00:42] <StuckMojo> thanks
[00:42] <StuckMojo> no way i can suffer a fresh install, way to much stuff installed and customized
[00:42] <StuckMojo> like 4 years worth of tinkering would be lost, or at least a severy PITA to replicate
[00:42] <TJ-> mjuszczak: what does this report "sudo lsattr -a /etc/ssl" ?
[00:42] <wilee-nilee> StuckMojo, back it up first, any thing can fail at any time.
[00:44] <nico103> any1?
[00:44] <StuckMojo> wilee-nilee: that i'm not too worried about. i can weasel my way out of almost any jam at this point
[00:44] <StuckMojo> i ran Sid for like 6 years ;)
[00:45] <histo> StuckMojo: backup your /home and get a package list
[00:46] <mashu> how do i remove grub from start up ...
[00:46] <mashu> ??
[00:46] <StuckMojo> well, it's on it's own volume. plus i've got an old version of it from before i moved to SSD
[00:46] <histo> mashu: what are you trying to use in place of it?
[00:46] <histo> !clone | StuckMojo
[00:46] <wilee-nilee> mashu, What exactly do you mean, and why?
[00:47] <nico103> apt-clode..., that's useful
[00:47] <StuckMojo> histo: hmph. that's nice. much better than the by-hand method i've been using since the 90s
[00:47] <mashu> i have two ssd ... one with windows and one with ubuntu ... i boot into the drive that has the OS i want to use. On the ssd with ubuntu it starts with GRUB ... i dont need it cause i have windows on another ssd ... its unnecessary
[00:48] <StuckMojo> mashu: uhhh...
[00:48] <TJ-> mashu: How will Ubuntu start, if you remove GRUB?
[00:48] <StuckMojo> since when will the NT boot loader load the linux kernel?
[00:48] <StuckMojo> grub can load windows but not vice versa, AFAIK
[00:48] <histo> mashu: you need grub to start ubuntu
[00:48] <wilee-nilee> StuckMojo, If you have this skill I have to wonder why you would even upgrade, I can do a fresh install in about 1/4 the time and have the same setup. ;)
[00:49] <mashu> well ... i dont want the menu to pop up where you choose between ubuntu and windows ...
[00:49] <StuckMojo> wilee-nilee: i *could* i just don't want to be bothered :)
[00:49] <StuckMojo> at this point, i've done it so many times it's not fun any more
[00:49] <StuckMojo> heh
[00:49] <wilee-nilee> StuckMojo, Ah, that is a good argument. ;)
[00:49] <StuckMojo> i just want to push the upgrade button
[00:49] <histo> mashu: You cant if you still want to be able to boot both
[00:50] <StuckMojo> as it is, there's always around 5 niggling things that break
[00:50] <nico103> suddenly Ubuntu won't update the display when I type (e.g., into a terminal, but not just) until I switch keyboard focus
[00:50] <histo> mashu: You can adjust the timeout and the default OS to boot.
[00:50] <StuckMojo> like i lose bitmap fonts and crap like that
[00:50] <nico103> any ideas?
[00:50] <wilee-nilee> mashu, So how you planning on booting ubuntu?
[00:50] <TJ-> StuckMojo: If it's UEFI, Windows bootmgr doesn't need to enter into it, and it is possible to boot the Linux kernel directly using an EFI stub
[00:50] <nico103> what might cause my display to screw up like that?
[00:50] <histo> mashu: actually if you put the timeout to 0 then you would have to hold a key to see the menu.  You would be non the wiser.
[00:50] <mashu> histo, how do i do that? how do i change the defualt OS?
[00:50] <StuckMojo> TJ-: ah. i've got a UEFI board now, but it's my first, and i didn't play with it beyond getting things working and a stable overclock
[00:51] <mashu> histo, i only want to boot ubuntu off the one ssd
[00:51] <histo> mashu: edit your /etc/default/grub  file after editing it sudo update-grub
[00:51] <StuckMojo> nico103: you mentioned colord dying. if you start that back up does the issue go away?
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> mashu, You are not making sense, to be honest.
[00:51] <nico103> StuckMojo: what's the incantation for restarting it?
[00:51] <nico103> (and, does 14.04 use something better for service mgmt?)
[00:52] <wilee-nilee> mashu, If you want each ssd to boot on their own and no windows in the grub menu that can be done.
[00:52] <StuckMojo> nico103: good question. i see it running on my system, but there no colord in init.d
[00:52] <histo> nico103: systemd is not implemented yet.
[00:52] <histo> if that's what you are asking.
[00:52] <StuckMojo> you could try service colord start
[00:52] <mashu> wilee-nilee, thats what i want
[00:52] <TJ-> mashu: If you add "GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true" to "/etc/default/grub" followed by "sudo update-grub", GRUB won't add other OSes (like Windows) to its menu
[00:52] <nico103> is there a "dev" pkg profile so I can install all the build tools I need?
[00:53] <histo> nico103: build-essentials?
[00:53] <TJ-> nico103: "sudo apt-get build-essential"
[00:53] <mintee_> 'lo all.  Any way to get a Canon network scanner working on 14.04 without attaching it directly via USB ?
[00:53] <StuckMojo> hey anyone remember offhand the name of the package that will probe all the apt mirrors and find the fastest one for you?
[00:53] <OerHeks> !build
[00:53] <StuckMojo> nico103: that's a very broad question. people develop in many different languages
[00:53] <StuckMojo> it would be hard to have one package that made everyone happy
[00:54] <nico103> yes, how about: everything to build typical autoconf'ed OSS
[00:54] <StuckMojo> but if you mean building system stuff like kernels and such...
[00:54] <StuckMojo> build-essentials is a good start
[00:54] <nico103> huh, my problem is fixed -- installing updates did it
[00:54] <nico103> but i learned something: apt-clone
[00:54] <OerHeks> nico103, the source file should give missing dependencie errors with a clue, that is linux fun
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> mashu, Remove the os-prober  run sudo apt-get remove os-prober in ubuntu and windows will not show after you run a sudo apt-get update
[00:55] <StuckMojo> nico103: dbus-1/system.d/org.freedesktop.colord-sane.conf:  <policy user="colord">
[00:55] <nico103> OerHeks: I just installed a new VM; I don't want to spend hours iterating over "what's needed now, install that, and now what?"
[00:55] <StuckMojo> hmm...seems to be a dependant service
[00:56] <StuckMojo> apparently it's related to printing
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> mashu, Grub will still be there on the ubuntu drive and it's gui, the os-prober is what finds other OS's
[00:57] <talsamon> it's not really a ubuntu question, but i can't play  ".webm" in firefox-browser, on freebsd it works, anyone a suggestion ?
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> talsamon, #firefox
[00:59] <nico103> on a diff note
[00:59] <nico103> how goes Ubuntu with teh ZFS?
[00:59] <talsamon> wilee-nilee,  ok - i will try it
[00:59] <StuckMojo> nico103: AFAIK it doesn't, due to licensing issues
[00:59] <StuckMojo> true of linux in general
[01:00] <StuckMojo> gpl and creative commons don't mix
[01:00] <nico103> hmmm, nope, my 12.04 broken again;  the difference?  installing vbox additions
[01:00] <StuckMojo> nico103: that makes sense
[01:00] <nico103> StuckMojo: well, there's always the distribute-a-script-that-gets-it-from-elsewhere
[01:00] <html> when i press the windows key aka superkey in 14.04 and a look for say vlc nothing comes up. why and how do i fix this. i can find applications this way.
[01:01] <StuckMojo> i was going to say it sounds like a display driver issue
[01:01] <nico103> yeah, so, me sad
[01:01] <nico103> at least I can remote login
[01:01] <wilee-nilee> html, Is it installed?
[01:01] <html> wilee-nilee,  yes it is.
[01:02] <icesherpa> html why not use the GUI instead
[01:02] <html> wilee-nilee,  i used to be able to do this , but recently i can, as i supect that i fell asleep and hit sometihng
[01:02] <wilee-nilee> html, Are you missing any other apps there. I have had in the past unity not show apps on an install.
[01:02] <html> icesherpa,  it does the same thing
[01:02] <nico103> that'll teach me to update vbox
[01:02] <icesherpa> ok
[01:03] <html> icesherpa,  wilee-nilee  yes  i cant find any appliacations at all
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> html, You can reset unity and compiz http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> html, I assume you have rebooted to see if all come back.
[01:04] <syeekick> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` build-essential automake1.9    is this safe to run in ubuntu with unity 14.04?
[01:05] <StuckMojo> syeekick: i don't see why not
[01:05] <jackarius86> whats your favourite terminal emulator and why?
[01:05] <StuckMojo> i also don't see what it has to do with unity
[01:05] <wilee-nilee> jackarius86, No polling.
[01:05] <jackarius86> :(
[01:06] <html> wilee-nilee,  unity-reset: command not found
[01:06] <html>              i copy and pasted.
[01:06] <StuckMojo> jackarius86: i gave up and just used gnome-terminal, but i like Eterm...and...forget the other
[01:06] <StuckMojo> if you google for "better than eterm" you find it ;)
[01:06] <jackarius86> aterm?
[01:06] <StuckMojo> yeah that might be it
[01:07] <StuckMojo> i know i've used aterm
[01:07] <wilee-nilee> html, 2nd method?
[01:07] <jackarius86> i used aterm for a bit, but now im sticking with xterm
[01:07] <StuckMojo> jackarius86: these days gnome-terminal does everything i want
[01:07] <html> wilee-nilee,  i would get lost
[01:07] <icesherpa> html I run one ubuntu install on VMware workstation 10 seems to work well
[01:07] <StuckMojo> jackarius86: wow, throwback. xterm doesn't even have transparency, no?
[01:08] <jackarius86> they all do pretty much the same job, but i am kind of really enjoying the simplicity of xterm
[01:08] <StuckMojo> you still using ctwm for you window manager?
[01:08] <wilee-nilee> html, The first command you ran is deprecated, the instructions are there.
[01:08] <jackarius86> im using fluxbox
[01:08] <StuckMojo> nice
[01:08] <jackarius86> and regularly use links web browser now
[01:08] <wilee-nilee> icesherpa, wrong nick I believe
[01:08] <jackarius86> and am actually really enjoying just living in the terminal
[01:08] <StuckMojo> jackarius86: i moved to openbox
[01:09] <icesherpa> got you
[01:09] <StuckMojo> jackarius86: it's got better support for standard window hints, and transparency
[01:09] <StuckMojo> but is equally thin and light
[01:09] <StuckMojo> nothing you don't want. no taskbar bullshit, no start menu crap
[01:09] <StuckMojo> draw borders on my windows and get the hell out of my way
[01:10] <jackarius86> lol
[01:10] <jackarius86> i dont mind the taskbar
[01:10] <StuckMojo> and give me a menu with "terminal" in it when i right click on the desktop
[01:10] <StuckMojo> done.
[01:10] <StuckMojo> twm style ;)
[01:10] <jackarius86> StuckMojo: i just press alt f1 and xterm pops up
[01:11] <jackarius86> no faffing, straight in the game
[01:11] <StuckMojo> i like multiple desktops
[01:11] <jackarius86> yeah me too
[01:11] <StuckMojo> but that's really the only advanced feature i want
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> StuckMojo, For the record no swearing here. ;)
[01:11] <StuckMojo> k
[01:11] <nico103> would it be dumb to try to xargs aptitude install a bunch of pkgs?
[01:11] <StuckMojo> no, i've done it
[01:11] <nico103> ok
[01:11] <nico103> thx
[01:12] <StuckMojo> in fact, i overflowed the command buffer with too long a list of packages, heh
[01:12] <html_> wilee-nilee,  r u there?
[01:12] <wilee-nilee> html_, yes
[01:13] <html_> wilee-nilee,  that command does not word.
[01:13] <html_> wilee-nilee,  that command does not work
[01:13] <nico103> StuckMojo: well, that's what's going to happen here
[01:13] <nico103> I mean, I don't trust apt-clone
[01:13] <nico103> (no way)
[01:13] <wilee-nilee> html_, Which command
[01:13] <nico103> but maybe I'm just doing something stupid;  the problem is the source is 12.04 and the dest is 1404
[01:14] <html_> wilee-nilee,  i did unity-reset
[01:14] <wilee-nilee> html_, That command is deprecated, use the 2nd option than rebot to finalize.
[01:14] <wilee-nilee> reboot*
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> html_, same here as the second option. http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/reset-unity-and-compiz-settings-in-ubuntu-14-04/
[01:15] <StuckMojo> nico103: i solved that by doing xargs echo > pkg.list
[01:15] <StuckMojo> then splitting it into chunks
[01:16] <wilee-nilee> html_, Also we are really trouble shooting here, you have no evidence as to why this happened.
[01:16] <html_> wilee-nilee,  i did unity --replace as i read in the comments and it works but it crashs my pc boarders and i needed to restart , now it works
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> html_ So your set?
[01:17] <html_> wilee-nilee,  no, not one bit
[01:17] <StuckMojo> lol
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> html_, Well I gave you two links, saying basically the same thing, it is more than one command and includes installing dconf, have you followed the instructions?
[01:19] <StuckMojo> wow, 1700+ people in here
[01:20] <StuckMojo> good lord, if everyone started talking at once
[01:20] <html_> wilee-nilee,  im not sure how my leg got stuck but with your help you got it out
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> html_, That means what?
[01:21] <html_> wilee-nilee,  i did unity --replace and restarted the computer
[01:21] <cchang95014> chris there ?
[01:21] <html_> wilee-nilee,  works now
[01:21] <wilee-nilee> html_, Cool, enjoy.
[01:22] <cchang95014> Chris ?
[01:23] <html_> wilee-nilee,  i had not a clue what to look up. thats for the redirect
[01:24] <html_> wilee-nilee,  anything you need help with?
[01:25] <StuckMojo> heh
[01:27] <wilee-nilee> html_, I'm fine but thanks. ;)
[01:28] <leobeta2> hello
[01:28] <leobeta2> first time ubuntu
[01:29] <wilee-nilee> leobeta2, THanks for the warning. ;)
[01:44] <digdeep> hi, newbie here. I saw this 'CCS Injection Vulnerability' here is a fix: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.2, I am not sure how to install it from source and replace the existing ubuntu's openssl
[01:46] <StuckMojo> you're better off waiting for the security release, which should come very quickly if it's a remote exploit
[01:46] <trism> digdeep: that is ubuntu's existing openssl, just run a normal apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:46] <planetmaker> digdeep, you should only install the security updates.
[01:47] <StuckMojo> digdeep: it's not that you can't, it's just that it's very easy to get yourself tied in knots that way
[01:47] <StuckMojo> unless you really know what you're doing, just use the packaged security updates
[01:47] <StuckMojo> because otherwise, if you break it, you get to keep both pieces
[01:50] <digdeep> so I did: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. Nothing comes up. OpenSSL version: 1.0.1f 6 Jan 2014. Does it mean I need to wait for the official release?
[01:50] <faoziaziz> hello
[01:50] <trism> digdeep: what is: apt-cache policy openssl
[01:50] <StuckMojo> dpkg -l | grep openssl
[01:50] <StuckMojo> maybe you already have it
[01:51] <kostkon> digdeep, openssl version -a
[01:52] <histo> digdeep: what version of ubuntu are your running?
[01:52] <histo> !info openssl
[01:53] <histo> digdeep: that package date should be later where'd you get it?
[01:53] <digdeep> histo, running trusty
[01:53] <SonikkuAmerica> digdeep: If Heartbleed is your concern it's fixed in that package version. :-D
[01:54] <kostkon> SonikkuAmerica, http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2232-1/
[01:54] <faoziaziz> i 'am using ubuntu 14.04. but, is it still beta??
[01:55] <wilee-nilee> faoziaziz, no
[01:55] <SonikkuAmerica> kostkon: Huh.
[01:56] <SonikkuAmerica> Now it's DTLS
[01:56] <kostkon> digdeep, openssl version -a   what's the build date
[01:56] <kostkon> SonikkuAmerica, yeah
[01:56] <SonikkuAmerica> faoziaziz: No, its stable
[01:56] <faoziaziz> i'am using xubuntu
[01:56] <digdeep> kostkon, openssl version -a OpenSSL 1.0.1f 6 Jan 2014 built on: Mon Jun  2 19:25:11 UTC 2014
[01:56] <faoziaziz> is it stable
[01:56] <faoziaziz> ??
[01:57] <kostkon> digdeep, you have already installed the upadte then
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> faoziaziz, What is your definition of stable, it is released.
[01:58] <faoziaziz> oh, but i read in my boot screen,  "Xubuntu 14.04 beta 2.9 "
[01:58] <digdeep> kostkon, so I need to wait for openssl-1.0.1h to be released from ubuntu?
[01:58] <kostkon> digdeep, no, the current version was patched against that bug. you have installed the update, so you are fine
[01:58] <SonikkuAmerica> faoziaziz: Did you perform [ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ]?
[02:00] <wilee-nilee> faoziaziz, Are you updated?, and run a sudo update-grub Xubuntu like ubuntu has been released there is no beta.
[02:00] <faoziaziz> not yet he he
[02:01] <Betal> is it expected to have a 'movable' cursor at ubuntu server login screen? because I can navigate in the screen if press any arrow key in the first try. (running in virtual box, didn't tested in real machine), in the second try it shows "^[[B^[[A..."
[02:04] <SonikkuAmerica> Betal: no, it isn't expected, a server login screen is just that, a text-based login screen
[02:06] <digdeep> kostkon, I am confused. my openssl is built on: Mon Jun  2 19:25:11 UTC 2014 "the current version was patched against that bug". How do I know it fix, other than asking around?
[02:06] <StuckMojo> digdeep: you already have it
[02:06] <trism> digdeep: less /usr/share/doc/openssl/changelog.Debian.gz;
[02:06] <StuckMojo> openssl version -a OpenSSL 1.0.1f
[02:07] <StuckMojo> f is what you want, no?
[02:07] <digdeep> I want h, for example
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> digdeep, do a update and a dist-upgrade in the terminal
[02:07] <SonikkuAmerica> StuckMojo: No, the output of [ sudo apt-cache policy openssl ] would be more useful
[02:07] <digdeep> is for this  SSL/TLS MITM vulnerability [CVE-2014-0224]
[02:07] <mashu> i installed the gnome desktop environment ... i reverted back to unity ... but for some reason when i shutdown my computer it shutsdown with a greyscreen with text saying ubuntu gnome instead of the marone colour as before ...
[02:08] <trism> digdeep: the patches are backported as kostkon said, it isn't the new version
[02:08] <trism> digdeep: look at the changelog
[02:09] <kostkon> digdeep, usn is here http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2232-1/
[02:13] <SonikkuAmerica> digdeep: at any rate [ sudo apt-cache policy openssl ] would give the installed Ubuntu package version of openssl
[02:14] <digdeep> sudo apt-cache policy openssl, Installed: 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.2   Candidate: 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.2
[02:16] <digdeep> I download the tar file from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.2, now I don't know what to do
[02:16] <advx_> Hi all Good Morning
[02:16] <luckybunny> hi guys. Having a major problem with a dual boot. I have run boort-repair and got it all working the way it should be, installed GFX drivers, and ran a fix to make wifi work (worked fine in windows, but not at all in ubuntu)
[02:16] <holstein> luckybunny: "a fix" ?
[02:17] <luckybunny> and now I've rebooted... ubuntu does start running, but no gui at all, and occasionally briefly shows the CLI login before disappearing to a black screen with a blinking cursor
[02:17] <holstein> luckybunny: if you "installed GFX drivers" and didnt reboot, then, thats likely the issue.. i say, just work back from what you did, and start fresh
[02:17] <advx_> luckybunny: try alt + F2 for console terminal
[02:17] <holstein> luckybunny: if you dont need proprietary drivers, dont add them.. you can remove your drivers from the consoler terminal ^
[02:18] <holstein> !tty
[02:18] <luckybunny> no alt+f2
[02:18] <luckybunny> yup I've tried dropping to tty... no luck
[02:18] <SonikkuAmerica> luckybunny: Uh no, Ctrl+Alt+F1-6
[02:18] <luckybunny> I have a feeling toshiba configures the keyboard in some weird way
[02:18] <holstein> luckybunny: there are recovery kernel modes.. try one of those..
[02:18] <advx_> luckybunny: try that terminal simultanously to, when us see the services show up
[02:19] <luckybunny> tried recovery mode as well... I get the same result from low graphics mode
[02:19] <SenorSenpai> im having issues with nautilus-dropbox on 14.04, right click menu not showing copy public link or any dropbox options. anyone know how to fix that?
[02:20] <holstein> luckybunny: sure.. in recovery mode, please remove the drivers you installed, and make sure you have no /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.. if you do, rename it
[02:20] <luckybunny> as for "a fix" for the wifi.. http://askubuntu.com/questions/337785/wireless-not-working-on-toshiba-satellite-c55-a5281 that's the one
[02:21] <luckybunny> holstein: I would do that, except recovery mode is producing the same results
[02:21] <sydney> SenorSenpai: Oh,Hi!! I see your back. ;)
[02:21] <SenorSenpai> hey there sydney :)
[02:22] <StuckMojo> luckybunny: perhaps it's related to trying to use the hi-res terminal driver?
[02:22] <StuckMojo> i'm spacing on the name
[02:22] <StuckMojo> but there's a boot option you can use to tell it not to load that
[02:22] <sydney> SenorSenpai: Everything working ok with gnome fallback?
[02:22] <SenorSenpai> so far so good yep
[02:22] <baordog> My wifi seems to turn off at random. What's the best way to debug this? Perhaps I should try to update my wifi drivers?
[02:22] <StuckMojo> it's the text mode terminal that gives you greater than 24x80 res
[02:23] <holstein> luckybunny: if you have no method by which to repair, then reinstall
[02:23] <luckybunny> ok I have a root shell prompt. probably the best i'll be getting for now
[02:23] <holstein> luckybunny: you should be able to remove the driver and xorg.conf from recover moe
[02:23] <holstein> mode*
[02:23] <holstein> luckybunny: from the "root shell prompt" there
[02:26] <jdeeburke> I'm having trouble setting up wifi on Ubuntu Server 14.04 on my Macbook 4,1 - I have searched for a few hours and followed several threads but without success. Most recently I have been using wpa_supplicant, but I can't seem to get it configured correctly.
[02:26] <StuckMojo> luckybunny: framebuffer! that's it. vesafb vs vga
[02:26] <holstein> jdeeburke: just install something light like lxde
[02:26] <luckybunny> StuckMojo: ?
[02:27] <holstein> jdeeburke: you can try the wicd curses pacakge
[02:27] <holstein> !info wicd-curses
[02:29] <jdeeburke> holstein: not looking to install any desktop environment. Never used wicd-curses. Can I run that separately from lxde?
[02:29] <StuckMojo> luckybunny: well, your original description said you didn't even get a terminal login prompt, just a blinking cursor
[02:29] <holstein> jdeeburke: i gave 2 options there, in case you *dont* want to run lxde.. thats going to be referred to as "the easy way"
[02:30] <jdeeburke> holstein: gotcha. Thanks I will check out wicd-curses.
[02:30] <holstein> jdeeburke: wicd-curses might do the job for you without installing X.. though, i say, if you are on a server that is on wifi, just install lxde..
[02:30] <luckybunny> I could swear I said it briefly gives the prompt before disappearing
[02:30] <luckybunny> oh well
[02:30] <StuckMojo> luckybunny: but if your only problem is not being able to start x11, then just blow away (or rename) org.conf
[02:30] <DonkeyHotei> [Wed 2014-06-04 08:13:34 PM PDT] <DonkeyHotei> odd, my eeepc 900a running trusty froze on wake from suspend and when i force rebooted, the fonts got tiny-fied
[02:30] <DonkeyHotei> [Wed 2014-06-04 08:14:10 PM PDT] <DonkeyHotei> i can't read the unity menu bar
[02:30] <DonkeyHotei> [Wed 2014-06-04 08:35:52 PM PDT] <DonkeyHotei> i know i saw a font size control somewhere before, can't find it now
[02:31] <StuckMojo> luckybunny: right, well that prompt has zero to do with X. it's the straight kernel terminal video driver
[02:31] <StuckMojo> of which there are many, some having higher resolution than vga, but vga usually "always works"
[02:32] <luckybunny> ah
[02:32] <DonkeyHotei> no one?
[02:32] <luckybunny> seems like purging the driver worked anyway
[02:32] <luckybunny> lol
[02:33] <holstein> DonkeyHotei: just reset, friend
[02:33] <DonkeyHotei> reset what?
[02:33] <holstein> DonkeyHotei: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[02:33] <DonkeyHotei> thx
[02:34] <sydney> Is there a was to sort of"reinstall" my graphics drivers? i have been having a few issues with it lately...
[02:34] <holstein> sydney: sure
[02:35] <holstein> sydney: assuming, you installed it, in the first place, and are not just using one in the modular kernel..
[02:36] <sydney> I am using proprietary driver 304 i think
[02:37] <holstein> sydney: confirm, and reinstall if you like ..though, its likely working as advertised
[02:37] <cipherboy> Hey, so a bit ago, my iPod Touch's app director space stopped showing up in the side bar in nemo and nautilus. the other part of the iPod shows up fine, but not the apps' document directories, so I can't transfer music to VLC. Any thoughts on either mounting it manually or what I can do there?
[02:37] <triplc> hi all, how to shoot the bug "ERROR @wl_cfg80211_get_station : Could not get..."? i am using ubuntu 12.04.4 with trusty-tah kernel (3.13) with broadcom wireless driver (bcmwl-kernel-source). it was just fine with saucy kernel. however after upgrade to trusty kernel, the dmesg is flood with "ERROR @wl_cfg80211_get_station " message. i google and understand that is is a bug.
[02:37] <triplc>  i tried to reinstall the broadcom driver, but the bug is still there
[02:37] <StuckMojo> hmph. i made it to saucy but now can't upgrade to 14.04
[02:38] <triplc>  (bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl/+bug/1313312 )
[02:38] <StuckMojo> it chokes at calculating changes
[02:38] <sydney> holstein: I dont know if a reinstall will fix it or not. :( Sometimes when i resume from standby,my screen shows a ton of lines;ubuntu 12.04.It didnt do this the first few months. ;(
[02:38] <triplc> how to fix that?
[02:38] <holstein> sydney: there could be nothing wrong to "Fix"..
[02:39] <holstein> sydney: that might be how the driver supports your hardware in linux
[02:39] <Milamber> quit
[02:39] <holstein> sydney: you can try the xorg edgers PPA, or just try the open driver
[02:39] <sydney> holstein: I dont have an opendriver option. :(
[02:39] <DonkeyHotei> holstein: worked! thanx a bunch!
[02:40] <holstein> sydney: should.. should have the open driver, and the vesa driver
[02:40] <holstein> sydney: you may not get 3d, but, you were not promised 3d..
[02:41] <sydney> holstein: When i installed it came with 174 proprietary drive preinstalled.
[02:41] <sydney> driver*
[02:41] <StuckMojo> i hate gui upgrade tools. i want to *see* what it's doing
[02:41] <holstein> sydney: not likely
[02:42] <holstein> sydney: you may have been prompted during install.. regardless.. you have options.. open, PPA.. vesa.. back to 12.04
[02:42] <advx_> bye 4 now
[02:43] <sydney> holstein: I will shpw you a pic. I dont remember being promped at all during install. I am not meaning to agrue with you,but thats the way i is. :(
[02:43] <jacksonbicalho> algum brasileiro?
[02:44] <somsip> !pt | jacksonbicalho
[02:44] <holstein> sydney: thats why i said "regardless".. because im actually not going to argue.. if you have the proprietary one, try the open one.. try the PPA.. try vesa..
[02:45] <mikedevita> anyone here know anything about DKIM and DNS records?
[02:45] <mikedevita> i cant figure out why DKIM wont work right
[02:47] <sydney> holstein: http://s16.postimg.org/lqhhcnaqd/Screenshot_from_2014_06_05_22_45_01.png
[02:47] <StuckMojo> lets see if aptitude can do better...
[02:47] <mikedevita> dig is escaping what it returns for dkm >_>
[02:48] <mikedevita> "v=DKIM1\; p=\"MIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQCvuEUZbkp3z/Ze1quYaN7xxSzusiki3rU1EZtsscG...................."
[02:48] <holstein> sydney: just confirm what driver you are using, and try a different one.. you can just simply make sure you are up to date with upgrades as well
[02:49] <luckybunny> StuckMojo: out of curiosity, how would i go about sorting the vga problem?
[02:49] <handsomejack> !ops | http://youtu.be/vDADuUo7Cx8?t=11m21s
[02:50] <StuckMojo> you can add a kernel param to your boot string specifying the vga mode you want
[02:50] <holstein> luckybunny: confirm what the problem is.. have you tried removeing the drive ryou installed? have you checked to see if you have an xorg.conf in place?
[02:50] <mikedevita> ahhh got it
[02:50] <StuckMojo> but it doesn't sound like that was the issue
[02:50] <StuckMojo> i think X just died and left you on VT7 which showed the blinking cursor
[02:50] <holstein> luckybunny: you can check for the xorg.conf from a live CD
[02:50] <StuckMojo> the other VTs were alive and good
[02:52] <sydney> holstein: The only other one that i have not tried it the post-released updates one.
[02:52] <StuckMojo> i.e. ctrl+alt+F1 should have gotten you a terminal login prompt
[02:53] <holstein> sydney: you havent said you tried the open one.. and, have you tried the xorg edgers PPA? how about vesa?
[02:54] <sydney> holstein: How do i try those?
[02:54] <sydney> I will be right back...
[02:57] <sydney> holstein: The only problem i have seen with open drivers,is that,in 14.04 i have to use nomodeset to boot from live cd.
[02:57] <cipherboy> ey, so a bit ago, my iPod Touch's app director space stopped showing up in the side bar in nemo and nautilus. the other part of the iPod shows up fine, but not the apps' document directories, so I can't transfer music to VLC. Any thoughts on either mounting it manually or what I can do there?
[02:58] <sydney> holstein: So,how do i install vesta?
[03:00] <wilee-nilee> cipherboy, Had you been unmounting before removing?
[03:00] <wilee-nilee> the ipod
[03:00] <cipherboy> Yeah, restarted both a couple of times, its been a week, hasn't come back since lol.
[03:01] <wilee-nilee> just a general question no real answer here cipherboy
[03:01] <cipherboy> And I mean, iPod proper works fine, I can sync stuff from iTunes, or via the app (VLC allows me to connect FTP servers which is what I have been doing, but want to transfer a lot more to it)
[03:02] <sydney> holstein: ?
[03:03] <holstein> sydney: vesa, and you dont install
[03:03] <holstein> sydney: firstly, are you up do date with upgrades?
[03:04] <sydney> holstein: Yes
[03:04] <holstein> sydney: open a terminal, and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and share any errors..
[03:06] <sydney> holstein: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7598987/
[03:07] <sydney> Did they just update the kernel again?
[03:07] <holstein> sydney: so, those updates *can* provide fixes for what you are talking about
[03:07] <holstein> sydney: they?
[03:08] <holstein> sydney: just apply the upgrades, and reboot into the more recent kernel and see how that works for you
[03:08] <sydney> holstein: ok :D
[03:09] <sydney> holstein: I have installed 12.04 twice on this pc,and both times it automatically installed propriatary driver 174
[03:10] <holstein> sydney: not 12.04
[03:10] <Spark> I think I have this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox/+bug/1292118
[03:10] <Spark> but this is weird
[03:10] <Spark> because it would mean that virtualbox is broken for a lot of people for 3 months
[03:10] <sydney> holstein: What do you mean?
[03:10] <holstein> sydney: regardless, freind.. just see what driver you have, and try another one.. if you have issues after this
[03:10] <Spark> i wonder if there is some workaround, otherwise it would be fixed
[03:11] <sydney> holstein: Ok :D
[03:11] <holstein> sydney: i mean, in 12.04, and in ubuntu, certain proprietary code cant be included, and is not installed automatically.. the nvidia driver you said "i think im using" is one of those
[03:12] <holstein> sydney: but, that doesnt matter.. again im not interested in arguing.. see what you have, and try something else.. you are likely not promised linux support by the creators of your hardware, so you have to provide your own support.. trying the differnt options for drivers is part of that process
[03:12] <sydney> holstein: It could of gotten installed when i updated 12.04 for the first time?
[03:13] <holstein> sydney: System Settings > Software & Updates > Additional Drivers * should be where you see the driver options, if you need to mess with them
[03:13] <holstein> sydney: no
[03:13] <holstein> sydney: i specifically *cannot* be installed with ubuntu 12.04
[03:13] <holstein> it*
[03:13] <holstein> sydney: but, again, thats is beside the point.. just see what you have, and use a different one, friend.. the code cant ship with ubuntu
[03:14] <sydney> holstein: I showed you the pic of what the advanced driver window showed. :D
[03:14] <holstein> sydney: and i didnt look.. i dont need to.. just use a different one..
[03:15] <mikedevita> ugh
[03:16] <sydney> holstein: the advanced driver window shows only 174,304 post-released and 304 :(
[03:16] <mikedevita> windows dns keeps wanting to lookup my externally hosted mail server >_>
[03:16] <holstein> sydney: you have *3* versions i see in that screenshot to try
[03:16] <sydney> I have tried 174 :D
[03:16] <holstein> sydney: try a *different* one
[03:16] <StuckMojo> l8rz
[03:17] <holstein> sydney: ok.. then, try *all* 3 of those.. *then* try the open one.. then, you still have the xorg edgers PPA.. https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[03:18] <sydney> rebooting...
[03:19] <dsnyders> Hi all!  Is it possible to have, say, /home/dsnyders/Documents and /home/dsnyders/Downloads point to the same partition?  ie, can I mount /dev/sdc1 in multiple places simultaneously?
[03:21] <mjuszczak> what else other than apparmor and SELinux can be causing a directory to not be accessible even with chmod 777?  I'm really tryingto track down an issue.
[03:21] <sydney> holstein: I will give that a try. :D
[03:21] <dsnyders> mjuszczak: Is the partition mounted readonly?
[03:21] <sydney> holstein:  I still dont know how i would install the open driver. where do i install that at?
[03:21] <mjuszczak> dsnyders: Nope.
[03:22] <mjuszczak> dsnyders: As root, I can do ls /etc/ssl/private, but as any other user I can't.  Permission denied.
[03:22] <mjuszczak> dsnyders: I've done chmod -R 777 /etc (this is a test machine) just to make sure -- so it's got to be something kernel level.
[03:22] <sydney> It doesnt show up in advanced drivers.
[03:23] <dsnyders> mjuszczak: trhing it here...
[03:23] <dsnyders> my typing is off today.  Trying it here.
[03:23] <mjuszczak> This is Ubuntu 12.04.4
[03:24] <histo> mjuszczak: what are the perms of the private directory
[03:24] <sydney> holstein: Thanks for all your help!!
[03:25] <histo> mjuszczak: ls -l /etc/ssl/ | pastebinit
[03:25] <dsnyders> mjuszczak:  I was able to set it to 777 as root, and then cd and ls the contents from a standard user account
[03:26] <mjuszczak> dsnyders: I'm wondering if this is the Ubuntu Docker image that i'm using doing something - but how would i check?
[03:27] <dsnyders> mjuszczak: I am in two terminals, one is sudo -i and one is normal.
[03:28] <histo> mjuszczak: can you just confirm that the permissions are set?
[03:32] <mjuszczak> histo: sure
[03:34] <mjuszczak> http://pastebin.com/wKmtrqfi
[03:35] <dsnyders> hi all!  what happens when you mount a partition to a populated folder?  Do you have access to both?
[03:37] <histo> dsnyders: no just the mount
[03:40] <dsnyders> histo: I'm trying to move a few bulky but rarely used folders to another partition, yet have them in the same place in the directory structure.  /home/dsnyders is on an SSD, but I'd like to have /home/dsnyders/photos and /home/dsnyders/Downloads on /dev/sdc1.  Is such a multiple mounting possible?
[03:41] <Ben64> dsnyders: you can have mounts like that, or you can use symbolic links
[03:42] <dsnyders> Ben64: *facepalm*  Symbolic links... why didn't I think of that?
[03:43]  * dsnyders hangs head in shame
[03:46] <SkoobyNoob> hey im a noob like the name says it
[03:46] <sudormrf> hey guys.  I am having an issue with mysql.  if I try to log in it gives me error error 1045 (28000)
[03:46] <sudormrf> not sure why, I set the password and tried that password and it won't let me in
[03:47] <Bashing-om> SkoobyNoob: Hello, You have a support request ?
[03:48] <dsnyders> sudormrf: some info here:http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10299148/mysql-error-1045-28000-access-denied-for-user-billlocalhost-using-passw
[03:51] <sudormrf> dsnyders, thanks.  checking it out
[03:51] <SkoobyNoob> sorry Bashing-om i was looking up some stuff
[03:52] <SkoobyNoob> yeah im new to linux
[03:52] <SkoobyNoob> and ubuntu for that matter
[03:52] <SkoobyNoob> i been picking up pretty good at it
[03:52] <histo> SkoobyNoob: well if you ahve a question ask away
[03:53] <SkoobyNoob> but i guess coming from windows is natural or common to download all kinds of crap from the internte
[03:53] <SkoobyNoob> internet
[03:54] <histo> SkoobyNoob: pretty much.  That and for some reason all of you feel the need to runt he most bleeding edge software.
[03:54] <SkoobyNoob> yeh hehe
[03:54] <histo> With no concern for stability
[03:54] <SkoobyNoob> so i was in this other chatroom and this one guy tells me its dangerous to download libraries that are not from the repos
[03:56] <SkoobyNoob> i guess i was too eager to load up my new OS with cool new software i didnt even check the scripts on my make installs
[03:56] <SkoobyNoob> i really dont think i have downloaded too crazily
[03:57] <SkoobyNoob> i just tried to get bluez to do some bluetooth sofware research
[03:57] <SkoobyNoob> i didnt know the had it in the repository
[03:57] <sudormrf> dsnyders, hmm...not sure what to do.  I don't know which user is causing the problem and I can't log in to list the users :S
[03:57] <histo> SkoobyNoob: Yeah, your opening yourself up for failure running scripts you don't understand.
[03:58] <histo> SkoobyNoob: the repos are there for a reason.
[03:58] <lordbyron> hi
[03:58] <zaxius> i have $EDITOR set to vim, but visudo still comes up in nano. can i fix that?
[03:58] <SkoobyNoob> anyways i had been downloading libraries to fill up the dependecies
[03:59] <SkoobyNoob> and know i have that itch in the back of my had that possibly in my search of software i could have downloaded something bad
[03:59] <histo> zaxius: log out and back in
[03:59] <ki7mt> zaxius, have you: sudo update-alternatives –config editor
[03:59] <histo> SkoobyNoob: apt-cache search bluez
[03:59] <SkoobyNoob> is there a way to know if there is an error in my system?
[03:59] <Mr_Queue> sudormrf: If you can't login to list users, isn't it someone elses problem all together?
[03:59] <histo> SkoobyNoob: or use the software center.
[03:59] <zaxius> histo: my $EDITOR was never set to nano
[04:00] <histo> zaxius: orly how'd you install then?
[04:00] <dsnyders> sudormrf: I can't help other than to suggest googling.
[04:00] <histo> SkoobyNoob: Not unless you see something break.
[04:00] <zaxius> oh, does it default to that? i just mean i never set it to nano.
[04:00] <Mr_Queue> That's the default..
[04:00] <Mr_Queue> Because a clown can't even screw it up..
[04:00] <SkoobyNoob> is there a way to know if there is an error in my system stumbles upon teaching yourself
[04:00] <histo> zaxius: yes that's the default editor
[04:00] <ki7mt> zaxius, My installs do, but I dont mind as I use nano most of the time for minor edits.
[04:01] <histo> SkoobyNoob: check your logs
[04:01] <SkoobyNoob> and what would i look for
[04:01] <zaxius> when nano comes up i get scared, lol
[04:01] <sudormrf> dsnyders, no worries
[04:01] <zaxius> it feels unfamiliar
[04:01] <sudormrf> Mr_Queue, it's my problem because it is my VM :P
[04:01] <Mr_Queue> You lost your VM.. Bummer..
[04:01] <zaxius> ki7mt, let me try update-alternatives
[04:01] <ki7mt> Yeah, everyone has the preferred editor, that's my we can update them.
[04:02] <Mr_Queue> sudormrf: late to the game, but how did this happen? Host shut you off?
[04:02] <sudormrf> Mr_Queue, probably not an insurmountable problem :)
[04:02] <histo> SkoobyNoob: errors
[04:02] <Mr_Queue> Not at all.
[04:02] <histo> SkoobyNoob: do you have reason to believe something is not working?
[04:02] <SkoobyNoob> would i look in the kernel log?
[04:03] <SkoobyNoob> no i dont im just paranoid
[04:03] <ki7mt> Bout what?
[04:03] <sudormrf> Mr_Queue, no.  I am working on testing something with some people.  Part of the installation installed mariadb and called for a blank password (at least for the testing phase).
[04:03] <SkoobyNoob> i think in one command i had to do a root
[04:03] <zaxius> ki7mt, that worked, thanks
[04:03] <dsnyders> SkoobyNoob: I wouldn't worry about it too much.  One of the benefits of using the repositories is that they will resolve all of the dependencies.  Loading a library that nothing uses won't really hurt your system.
[04:03] <histo> zaxius: how did you change the default editor if you didn't use update-alternatives/
[04:03] <ki7mt> zaxius, cool glad it worked.
[04:03] <zaxius> histo, i thought $EDITOR was all you needed, lol
[04:03] <histo> ahhh
[04:03] <zaxius> histo, but i normally just invoke vi manually
[04:03] <zaxius> thanks guys
[04:03] <Mr_Queue> sudormrf: So you only lost the DB password?
[04:04] <Mr_Queue> sudormrf: I guess I don't even understand the problem..
[04:04] <sudormrf> Mr_Queue, Not sure TBH.  but probably
[04:04] <SkoobyNoob> i had to root and and it had to do something with the shadows
[04:04] <SkoobyNoob> sorry if im not more specific like the name says im a super noob
[04:04] <Mr_Queue> Well fix it sudormrf. Just go pick another one.
[04:05] <sudormrf> Mr_Queue, as part of installing the whole system it needs to access the DB, but when it tries it gives me that error.  so when I tried to connect to it manually it gives me that error
[04:05] <SkoobyNoob> i thought i knew a lot cuz i knew what to click and point at and do a little DOS but fuck im really learning now
[04:05] <sudormrf> Mr_Queue, may just wait for the guy who is heading up the project
[04:05] <SkoobyNoob> sorry for the f bomb
[04:06] <Kuwanger> For Ubuntu 12.04, what set of startup scripts cause /etc/rc.local to run?  I ask because /etc/rc.local is owned by root:root and is executable yet isn't running at startup.
[04:06] <Mr_Queue> SkoobyNoob: You're in so much trouble... IRC has never ever ever ever ever seen that word.. I mean, you just KP'ed like a full cluster of gear.
[04:06] <sudormrf> HAHAHa
[04:06] <SkoobyNoob> ??
[04:06] <Mr_Queue> Yeah man...
[04:07] <Mr_Queue> It's like... I'd turn my router off and stuff..
[04:07] <histo> Kuwanger: what are you trying to do in rc.local?
[04:08] <SkoobyNoob> Mr_Queue, what word noob?
[04:08] <Mr_Queue> Kuwanger: That's part of init, ie good ol PID #1
[04:10] <SkoobyNoob> hey what do ya think of bit defender for unices?
[04:10] <Mr_Queue> Why?
[04:11] <Bashing-om> SkoobyNoob: A good intro to ubuntu : http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Trusty .
[04:11] <histo> SkoobyNoob: and man intro  in a terminal
[04:12] <SkoobyNoob> thanx Bashing-om
[04:12] <SkoobyNoob> yeah im on the man
[04:12] <SkoobyNoob> thx
[04:12] <Jordan_U> Kuwanger: What makes you think it's not being executed?
[04:13] <Mr_Queue> Kuwanger: Google around for like interactive boot or interactive init etc.. I forget how Ubuntu is doing it now..
[04:13] <Bashing-om> SkoobyNoob: My bit to try and help : D
[04:13] <Mr_Queue> But it will let you step through all of init and see what's going down and when.
[04:13] <SuperHorst> Hi, i need help: I have a VPS server running ubuntu 13.04 and trying to run a dedicated game server.The vserver has no sound device and so if i want to start the gameserver i get: "ALSA lib confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) cannot find card '0'" So is there a way to set up a dummy audio device so i can start the gameserver ? Help very appreciated
[04:13] <ki7mt> When you can write a man-page, that works, then you know you've leaned a bit about *Nix :-)
[04:14] <histo> SuperHorst: what game?
[04:14] <SuperHorst> histo: Crea
[04:14] <Mr_Queue> SuperHorst: You're going to need to contact your host.
[04:14] <ki7mt> .. learned . Ha!! good thing I dont write to many, can't type !
[04:14] <Mr_Queue> SuperHorst: Else edit code and remove that check.
[04:15] <SuperHorst> Mr_Queue: The standalone server is a binary file, so no edit :( is there now way to setup a fake audio device ? :)
[04:15] <Mr_Queue> SuperHorst: Ask your host if they want to drop that in there, (they won't) but you can send the mail.
[04:15] <Mr_Queue> Nope.
[04:15] <Mr_Queue> Buy yourself a box and rack it.
[04:16] <ki7mt> SuperHorst, If the server doesn't ahve a card yo've got no chance, even then, it's most likely a shared resource being on a VPS, not ideal for gaming.
[04:16] <Mr_Queue> SuperHorst: Think about this real quick.
[04:16] <SuperHorst> :(
[04:16] <Mr_Queue> You have a VIRTUAL server... Created from smoke by a host machine that says you have 5 arms and 26 fingers...
[04:17] <histo> Why would a gameserver need a sound device in the first place?
[04:17] <Mr_Queue> Well the game wants dedicated hardware.
[04:17] <SuperHorst> i dont need sound, but i cant the server binary without a sounddevice :(
[04:17] <Mr_Queue> And then there is that.
[04:17] <ki7mt> In general, Gaming servers are dedicated servers, Not VPS, and they have tons of cores & loads of RAM, not many VPS server provide that.
[04:18] <Mr_Queue> And what he said.
[04:18] <Jordan_U> Mr_Queue: SuperHorst: Yes, you can create a dummy sound "device" for alsa: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix%3aModule-dummy
[04:18] <Mr_Queue> dude.
[04:19] <Mr_Queue> You missed the boat.
[04:19] <Mr_Queue> This fancy binary isn't looking for that.. It's looking at hardware..
[04:19] <wilee-nilee> Mr_Queue, This is support not your play by play and opinions. ;)
[04:20] <Mr_Queue> Was that an opinion? Just checking.
[04:20] <SuperHorst> Jordan_U: ill try that :) thx
[04:21] <Jordan_U> Mr_Queue: Why do you think it's "looking for" anything other than a "card 0" from alsa?
[04:21] <ki7mt> Your still going to need a harware sound device.
[04:21] <ki7mt> hardware
[04:21]  * Mr_Queue nods at ^
[04:22] <Mr_Queue> And..... It's just not there...
[04:22] <ki7mt> Indeed
[04:22] <Jordan_U> Mr_Queue: Applications don't talk directly to hardware, that's the kernel's job.
[04:22] <Mr_Queue> I might have set up a few thousand VPS's once before, or twice, or.. I forget.
[04:22] <Mr_Queue> Jordan_U: Time for bed.
[04:23] <Mr_Queue> Your VPS is an application...
[04:23] <Mr_Queue> To my host OS.. We're done here.
[04:23] <histo> Mr_Queue: The guest OS doesn't know that.
[04:23] <Mr_Queue> Exactly.
[04:24] <histo> Mr_Queue: what is your point then?  He can create a dummy card.
[04:24] <ki7mt> it does when it trys to access system resources that aren't there ;-)
[04:24] <histo> It's not self aware.
[04:26] <Jordan_U> ki7mt: I can use a machine with no sound card to stream audio via pulseaudio to another machine that does. The application using alsa (the "safe" subset at least) sees no difference between that and a local card.
[04:26] <SuperHorst> ~# modinfo soundcore libkmod: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod.c:505 kmod_lookup_alias_from_builtin_file: could not open builtin file '/lib/modules/2.6.32-042stab062.2/modules.builtin.bin' ERROR: Module soundcore not found.
[04:27] <SuperHorst> and the dev of the server is saying some dude figured out how it works but isnt online atm, i dont understand why the server needs a soundcard at all :(
[04:27] <Jordan_U> ki7mt: I can also create a virtual sound card that generates random input for its "microphone" and sends output happily to the bit bucket.
[04:28] <ki7mt> Jordan_U, hmm, ok, I've not tried either so I'll take a pass on that one.
[04:31] <ki7mt> I suppose, while it may be possible stream I/O audio, I certainly doubt a VPS is the right choice for a real gaming server, maybe for testing or something it would be ok.
[04:35] <FloatingGoat> hello I have questions about the Ubuntu one thing.
[04:36] <ki7mt> Man I finally figure out how to get a Tk app Icon on Ubuntu Launcher: StartupWMClass=Tk  took me forever !
[04:40] <Kuwanger> Jordan_U: Well, I have "echo 134217728 > /proc/sys/vm/dirty_bytes" in rc.local so I don't have issues with USB timing out whenever I copy a lot of stuff over.
[04:40] <Kuwanger> Jordan_U: Yet after startup, /proc/sys/vm/dirty_bytes reads "0".
[04:41] <reversiblean> How do I customize/remove the notify-osd black border in gnome classic with no effects?
[04:42] <reversiblean> Hello can anyone help?
[04:43] <histo> Kuwanger: any reason you don't want to use sysctl?
[04:44] <histo> Kuwanger: /etc/sysctl.conf
[04:44] <reversiblean> How to customize/remove the notify-osd black border in gnome classic with no effects?
[04:45] <Kuwanger> histo: I want to run other stuff in rc.local as well.  like running osspd (oss sound proxy).
[04:46] <histo> Kuwanger: rc.local should be working
[04:46] <Kuwanger> histo: Well, I know it *should* be working. :)  But it's not, which is the point of me trying to figure out why it's not.
[04:46] <NGC982> Morning.
[04:47] <histo> Kuwanger: well try having it touch /what/ever/file and see that it is.
[04:48] <Kuwanger> histo: I'll try that, but that doesn't well explain why dirty_bytes is 0. :/
[04:48] <histo> Kuwanger: are you writing dirty_ratio also?
[04:49] <Kuwanger> histo: Nope.  Just dirty_bytes and dirty_background_bytes, both of which read 0.
[04:49] <histo> Kuwanger: try with out the background_bytes I wonder if that is 0'ing the other.
[04:50] <histo> Kuwanger: I found some kernel documentation about dirty_bytes being the counterpart to dirty_ratio and the same for background_...
[04:50] <histo> Kuwanger: when you write to one the other appears as 0
[04:51] <Kuwanger> histo: But they both shouldn't read 0 if either one is set as non-zero.
[04:51] <histo> Kuwanger: also it must be set above two pages or it defaults to 0
[04:51] <Kuwanger> histo: Well, one is 128MB and the other is 32MB, so no problem there.
[04:51] <histo> Kuwanger: read the dirty bytes seciton of the page. https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt
[04:52] <Kuwanger> histo: Oh, and if I do a "sudo /etc/rc.local", both are set to non-zero values.
[04:53] <histo> Kuwanger: getconf PAGESIZE
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[04:54] <Kuwanger> histo: 4096, which 33554432 and 134217728 are multiples of.
[04:55] <histo> Kuwanger: try setting one and see if it works
[04:55] <histo> bug perhaps?
[04:55] <Kuwanger> histo: Like I said, running "sudo /etc/rc.local" and both are set properly.
[04:56] <Kuwanger> histo: The only way I can see "/etc/rc.local" still be running at startup is if something else is zeroing out both values (and no, /etc/sysctl.conf doesn't have entries for either).
[04:57] <Kuwanger> histo: Regardless, it'd be helpful to just have an actual log of what services are running what instead of trying to guess at all this.
[04:58] <histo> Kuwanger: I know what you are saying, I'm merely asking if you would test setting just one and making sure it doesn't zero the other.
[04:58] <Kuwanger> histo: I have and it doesn't.
[04:58] <histo> Kuwanger: does it set the one ?
[04:59] <histo> Kuwanger: pastebin your rc.local
[04:59] <Kuwanger> histo: Yes.  dirty_bytes and dirty_ratio are connected as dirty_background_bytes and dirty_background_ratio.  But the two don't groups don't effect either other.
[04:59] <histo> Kuwanger: you would have to add the entries manually in sysctl.conf btw.
[04:59] <histo> Kuwanger: Right their not supposed to, I'm wondering if you are experiencing a bug.
[05:00] <histo> but you won't test further so I don't know if I can help.
[05:00] <Kuwanger> histo: http://pastebin.ca/2797381
[05:01] <Kuwanger> histo: No, I have tested.  And I'm telling you they're not connected.
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> Kuwanger: whats going wrong exactly?
[05:07] <Kuwanger> lotuspsychje: As far as I can tell, /etc/rc.local isn't being ran on startup.
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> Kuwanger: did you follow all these steps: http://askubuntu.com/questions/9853/how-can-i-make-rc-local-run-on-startup
[05:08] <Kuwanger> lotuspsychje:  -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 819 Jun  6 00:49 /etc/rc.local*
[05:09] <Kuwanger> lotuspsychje: And manually running the script produces the expected behavior of setting /proc/sys/vm/dirty_bytes, etc.
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> Kuwanger: maybe here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/299792/why-is-the-command-in-etc-rc-local-not-executed-during-startup
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> Kuwanger: maybe would be handy also to test a simple sh script, just to test if it works
[05:16] <junhao_> join #vim
[05:19] <Kuwanger> lotuspsychje: Thanks for the second link.  I'll try just having a secondary script and see if that works. :/  If nothing else, perhaps that'll be a sufficient workaround.
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> Kuwanger: ok good luck :p
[05:28] <someHuman> How do I get back to Unity desktop from XFCE?
[05:31] <nezZario> So anyone ever tried zfsonlinux here?
[05:31] <nezZario> About to try it on a 32 bit!
[05:31] <nezZario> Hoping this PPA realizes I'm on 32bit and isn't installing 64bit binaries
[05:34] <nezZario> It's going to be my luck it somehow attaches a 64bit kernel mod and stops me from booting
[05:35] <Mr_Queue> I honestly see zero point of zfs on linux..
[05:36] <Mr_Queue> Like makeing a coffee pot run linux or something... Cool, good job..
[05:36] <Mr_Queue> If you want zfs pools, just go fire up a FreeBSD box and shoot data at it.
[05:38] <wontoner_io> Possibly there are new open source operating systems in development which are fresh and filled with new ideas..
[05:39] <Mr_Queue> Making wet water wetter..
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> Mr_Queue: plz keep the channel free for ubuntu support
[05:41] <Mr_Queue> lotuspsychje: Start like 5 lines up please..
[05:41] <wontoner_io> Well anyhow, ubuntu is not the only operating system solution
[05:41] <wontoner_io> It is reliable though!
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> Mr_Queue: making water wet isnt any part of support
[05:42] <Mr_Queue> lotuspsychje: bad count, go 10.
[05:45] <someHuman> How do I get GNU Emacs from terminal?
[05:45] <Mr_Queue> You need to send RMS some $BC.
[05:46] <Mr_Queue> then fireup your favorite term, install it and execute it.
[05:46] <blueingress> Hi, Is there any best way to backup Ubuntu-one at once?
[05:47] <cfhowlett> blueingress nope
[05:47] <cfhowlett> blueingress wait - depends
[05:47] <haffaf> is there a game booster application for linux ?
[05:47] <ki7mt> Yeah, that's a bummer UB1 going away
[05:47] <samthewildone> ubuntu has gotten a lot harder for me.
[05:47] <cfhowlett> blueingress if you're talking about the files on the u-one cloud NO.  If you have the files on your computer, just pick an alternate cloud and assign the files to the new provider
[05:48] <samthewildone> can't believe I just wiped my whole drive for this. I remember back in the day, ubuntu was a piece of cake.
[05:48] <blueingress> cfhowlett, wish I can dump everything by one line script.
[05:48] <cfhowlett> blueingress :)  I understand.  sadly, it seems no one ever bothered to figure out a solution like that
[05:48] <blueingress> cfhowlett, Nope, I reinstalled it
[05:49] <cfhowlett> !ops | farmy spamming via PM
[05:49] <Mr_Queue> blueingress: You don't have your data anymore? It's lost in a single cloud solution? Like your box died or something?
[05:49] <Mr_Queue> cfhowlett: Send that to freenode
[05:49] <blueingress> Mr_Queue, I can still check the files via the web.
[05:49] <cfhowlett> blueingress reinstalled?  OK, but the actual DATA files are on your box?
[05:49] <cfhowlett> Mr_Queue false.  freenode doesn't moderate this channel.  ops do.  right???
[05:49] <blueingress> cfhowlett, not any more. Just can access them by the web.
[05:50] <Mr_Queue> cfhowlett: a PM, no.. You misunderstand IRC.
[05:50] <cfhowlett> blueingress sad.  OK, then you need to download those with some urgency before the deadline
[05:50] <blueingress> cfhowlett, yeah , we still have 20 days more...
[05:51] <Mr_Queue> This is PRIME reason you don't do cloud..
[05:51] <Mr_Queue> Lucky you had a heads up at all.
[05:51] <cfhowlett> blueingress Box and Copy seem to be worthwhile
[05:51] <blueingress> cfhowlett, are you using Box?
[05:52] <blueingress> cfhowlett, which support command line?\
[05:52] <cfhowlett> blueingress I've got it on my pad, not my buntu.  I don't know which one for the command line, but I bet the #ubuntu-server channel has a few suggestions
[05:53] <blueingress> cfhowlett, OK I try that channel.
[05:53] <Mr_Queue> Ya'll should buy a pair of Pogo's.. Put one at a friend/family's house with an encrypted volume on it and sync your data to those.
[05:54] <Mr_Queue> or Pi's or whatever.. Something that can eat an rsync..
[05:54] <blueingress> Mr_Queue, how about btsync ?
[05:54] <Mr_Queue> Dunno man, old school here..
[05:55] <haffaf> how can i get stable ping in urban terror ? i'm using wirlesss connection
[05:56] <qin> haffaf: wifi for shooter is unwise
[05:56] <Mr_Queue> haffaf: It probably is, you just don't understand network traffic.. ICMP in general.
[05:56] <Mr_Queue> Send some UDP packets instead..
[05:57] <haffaf> ok no solution
[05:57] <haffaf> thanks
[05:57] <haffaf> -_-'
[05:57] <Mr_Queue> Your call man..
[05:58] <Mr_Queue> haffaf: These things called routers.... Sometimes they simply drop ICMP traffic.
[05:59] <qin> haffaf: good gaming nic (there is wifi card too)
[05:59] <Mr_Queue> And that, dropped packets, will report that your junk don't work and you need pills.
[05:59] <rww> heh
[05:59] <haffaf> Mr_Queue, i see
[05:59] <rww> .
[05:59] <Mr_Queue> When a router is CPU bottlenecked...
[06:00] <qin> farny: would you like to sod off, please? Any any op to do something useful?
[06:00] <Mr_Queue> They're configured (usually) to drop junk traffic.. ICMP in this case.
[06:00] <Mr_Queue> qin: Drop a note to someone in #freenode..
[06:00] <Mr_Queue> Look for an OP there.. They run the whole dam network, this channel included.
[06:01] <rww> lol
[06:01] <Mr_Queue> bow shot.
[06:01] <Mr_Queue> lol
[06:02] <qin> Many thanks mighty rww.
[06:22]  * [gnubie] waves
[06:22] <[gnubie]> [ot] anyone here familiar enough about hardware raid controllers in general?
[06:22] <[gnubie]> i have an lsi megaraid sas 9240-4i raid controller that manages 2 x sata hdd @ 1tb each in raid 1. it has a running system but i want to replace the disks with 2 x ssd in sata interface and install the same system. i still want to preserve the currently working sata drives and their contents. my plan is if i screw up with this ssd, i can simply install back the sata drives.
[06:22] <[gnubie]> then i realized that the raid 1 management is on the raid controller. with this, i assume that without the raid controller with the same configuration, i won't be able to access the contents of the sata drives and worst i cannot bring it back to its original status.
[06:22] <[gnubie]> i know it's kinda ot here to ask about raid controllers but i assume that i'm not the only one who uses a raid controller in general. care to share your similar experience?
[06:22] <[gnubie]> when i tried to replace all the sata drives to ssd, the lsi utility during bios bootup warns me that it detected a new pair of drives and the working sata drives are gone. it asked me if i can just continue or configure the raid utility with totally new drives using ssd.
[06:22] <[gnubie]> my question is, if i configure the 2 x ssd, does it mean that if i decided to rollback to the old sata drives, i won't be able to make it because it replaces somehow the raid configuration?
[06:22] <[gnubie]> my worry is i cannot rollback to its original settings by simply replacing the 2 x ssd with the original 2 x sata drives and worst, i cannot retrieve the contents of the sata drives.
[06:23] <[gnubie]> anyone?
[06:24] <histo> [gnubie]: try in ##hardware
[06:24] <Squall5678> [gnubie]: I successfully changed a broken raid controller while keeping the raid intact a week ago :)
[06:28]  * histo hands Squall5678 a cookie
[06:32] <[gnubie]> Squall5678: are you saying that when you plug in your drives to a new raid controller (i assume with the same brand/model of the faulty one), everything works as before?
[06:32] <Guido1> Hello, a technical question: How importand is the TDP for a laptop? I think it should be considderd together with the amount of battery cels. Is that right?
[06:34] <histo> Guido1: tdp?
[06:34] <onair_> hi,i created a launch icon for xampp.but it seems not work...
[06:34] <Guido1> histo: somthing about the Watt a processor or laptop needs
[06:35] <[gnubie]> Squall5678: how about in my case: i only want to re-use the existing raid controller and replace the drives with new ssd and configure it from the bios raid utility. if i rollback to the original drives, will it still work as before?
[06:36] <histo> [gnubie]: Why wouldn't it?
[06:37] <onair_> path is sudo ./opt/lampp/manager-linux-x64.run .; type is application
[06:37] <histo> [gnubie]: they are just mirrored drives right?  Why are you worried about retrieving the contents?
[06:37] <[gnubie]> histo: i was asking. i'm afraid, i cannot rollback if i continue to replace the old drives with ssd then rollback to the original drives then i cannot bring it back to its original state
[06:37] <histo> onair_: remove the . before the opt
[06:38] <onair_> o i will try
[06:38] <histo> [gnubie]: backup first just incase.
[06:38] <onair_> histo:does the command is correct?
[06:38] <[gnubie]> histo: (a) 2 x sata drives >> (b) 2 x ssd >> (a) again
[06:39] <[gnubie]> histo: what shall i backup?
[06:39] <onair_> can not open..
[06:40] <histo> onair_: sudo /opt/lampp/manager-linux-x64.run
[06:40] <[gnubie]> histo: i'm totally replacing all the drives.. the 2 x sata drives to 2 x ssd. my question is, if i rollback to the old 2 x sata drives, do you think it will still work as before?
[06:42] <histo> [gnubie]: what do you mean by roll'd back?
[06:42] <onair_> histo:i find something is wrong.maybe the location of the icon is wrong ,it appear at home folder.i think it should be at application folder.after creating the icon.click it nothing happen.
[06:43] <histo> onair_: what is your native language?
[06:43] <onair_> Chinese...-.-
[06:43] <onair_> im not a native english speaker
[06:43] <onair_> sorry for my bad english-.-
[06:43] <histo> !cn | onair_
[06:44] <histo> onair_: I'm just getting confused and don't want to tell you something wrong.
[06:50] <helmut_> hi
[06:52] <Squall5678> [gnubie]: I suppose my hint was hidden enough to cause ironic remarks. Yes, changing a raid controller will work correctly and most of them store logical volume configs on the disks so your case is also possible. But if there is a #hardware channel, I suppose we are getting offtopic.
[06:53] <e^> onair_: did it work?
[06:53] <e^> onair_: maybe try to make it executable, sudo chmod +x /opt/lampp/manager-linux-x64.run
[06:54] <histo> helmut_: hi
[06:54] <onair_> e^: thanks...
[06:55] <onair_> e^:not work...
[06:56] <e^> try to leave the "." before it like you had it
[06:56] <frt> hi folks
[06:57] <frt> I run simple sh via crontab as a root, and it sayd permssion denined
[06:57] <frt> denied. I have chmod +x the sh file
[06:57] <shvchk> Hello. I have latest Virtualbox installed on Ubuntu 14.04 host, and have an Ubuntu 14.04 guest. The problem is that 3D acceleration is not working: /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p > Unity 3D supported: no. It is enabled in guest settings, as well as VT-x and Nested paging (in case this matters). Guest additions are installed, modules loaded (grep vbox /proc/modules gives vboxguest, vboxsf, vboxvideo, drm). How can I found out where the problem is?
[06:57] <histo> frt: what is the file and what does it do?
[06:57] <onair_> i did not add the "." before /opt. the current commend is sudo chmod +x /opt/lampp/manager-linux-x64.run
[06:58] <e^> yes i mean to launch the app run ./opt/lampp/manager-linux-x64.run
[06:58] <histo> onair_: no that command with the chmod is to be run in a terminal
[06:58] <histo> onair_: it makes the file executable
[06:59] <geirha> Surely the . should not be there
[06:59] <frt> histo: its small sh file. it works when I run it from terminal via sh filename - #!/usr/bin/python  cd abe/ python -m Abe.abe --config abe.conf
[06:59] <frt> so it goes to specific dir and runs py script which auto exit
[07:00] <geirha> onair_: change it to  gksudo /opt/lampp/manager-linux-x64.run   or kdesudo instead of gksudo, whichever's installed
[07:01] <frt> histo: crontab also run as root so should work :)
[07:01] <onair_> actually i can run it with only ./manager-linux-x64.i just want to make it run at a easy way.
[07:01] <onair_> geirha:after changing,i got application error...
[07:01] <e^> geirha: gksudo won't replace the "." would it? like sudo wouldn't
[07:02] <frt> ok I chmod + u it that can work :d
[07:02] <geirha> e^: shouldn't use a relative path in a desktop file
[07:02] <geirha> onair_: what does that mean?
[07:03] <e^> geirha: it isn't a relative path, it is for execution.
[07:03] <geirha> e^: no, "." does not mean "execute the following"
[07:04] <onair_> thanks...i fixed the problem..
[07:04] <e^> i know "." means current directory too. but how come ./app executes a file with app doesn't then?
[07:04] <e^> *with = while
[07:04] <onair_> i have to make it start at type of terminal...
[07:05] <geirha> e^: because when there's no / in there, it will only search through PATH for the executable
[07:05] <geirha> e^: with ./ in front, you tell the shell that you want to run the executable that is in the current directory
[07:06] <geirha> onair_: Ah it's a terminal based application?
[07:06] <e^> oh ok.
[07:09] <histo> frt: is it a python script or bash?
[07:10] <onair_> geirha: im not sure...before creating the launcher,i start it by ./xxxx.run
[07:13] <Braden`> Hello
[07:14] <histo> Braden`: hola
[07:14] <Braden`> http://pastebin.com/na2Ma1C4 <-- I am trying to set up a second IP address on a single interface, but its not bringing up the second IP.  In the paste:  /etc/network/interfaces
[07:14] <frt> histo: is a script to launch  py script
[07:14] <frt> Braden`: try reboot
[07:14] <ez1> i'd like to ask one thing: why ubuntu does not have problems when dealing with drivers? I mean when you put the cd it automatically (usually) starts and works
[07:14] <frt> it helped me
[07:14] <ez1> Hola Braden`
[07:15] <frt> Braden`: u also need to change file
[07:15] <frt> a bit
[07:15] <Braden`> frt:  I did
[07:15] <Braden`> What should I change
[07:15] <Braden`> ?
[07:15] <frt> I check 1 moment how I done it :D
[07:15] <Braden`> hehe
[07:16] <Braden`> Well, I did it exactly how I did it before, but before we used eth and not em
[07:16] <frt> # The primary network interface auto eth0 eth0:0
[07:16] <frt> list all interfaces there
[07:17] <Braden`> What do you mean?
[07:18] <frt> ok I will correct it for u
[07:18] <frt> hehe
[07:18] <frt> it seems u did not listen u eths
[07:18] <frt> # The primary network interface auto eth0 eth0:0
[07:18] <frt> and whats em for?
[07:20] <frt> Braden`: does it make sense?
[07:20] <frt> oki
[07:22] <Braden`> em is the new naming scheme that tries to differentiate between wired, wireless, etc.
[07:22] <Braden`> eth is obsolete afaik
[07:23] <meek_geek> how to clean and optimize aptitude ?
[07:24] <frt> Braden`: works for me on Ubuntu 14.04
[07:24] <frt> :)
[07:24] <shvchk> Anyone using 14.04 as a Virtualbox guest? I'm having 3D acceleration problems after yesterday's mesa update =(
[07:25] <frt> lol
[07:25] <frt> so many messy things
[07:25] <frt> :D
[07:26] <frt> who can help me with crontab? :D dunno why it syd permission denied
[07:26] <lotus|kiwi> meek_geek: try apt-cache clean maybe
[07:26] <frt> *said
[07:27] <lotus|kiwi> apt-get clean sorry
[07:27] <TJ-> Braden`: It's called biosdevname, and is being applied by udev with assistance from the biosdevname package.... Are you configuring a server install by chance?
[07:27] <frt> TJ-: looks like it::P
[07:28] <frt> what can deny root cron tab execution?
[07:28] <frt> hmmm
[07:28] <nezZario> Anyone using btrfs here?
[07:28] <frt> no
[07:28] <nezZario> Can't figure out how to get it setup
[07:28] <lotus|kiwi>  
[07:28] <nezZario> Just want to use it on a specific disk, not boot from it
[07:29] <lotus|kiwi> !info btrfs
[07:29] <e^> whats up with this update
[07:29] <nezZario> btrfs-tools
[07:29] <nezZario> found it :D
[07:29] <frt> sometimes best not to update
[07:29]  * ferret_ adds more letters in frt's name
[07:29] <frt> lol
[07:29] <e^> it's modifying grub and whatnot?
[07:29] <nezZario> I finally got zfsonlinux installed on this box
[07:29] <nezZario> I was getting 200K/sec throughput
[07:30] <frt> ferret_: how I can fix cron tab permissions denied error? I chmod +X  da file
[07:30] <nezZario> yes 200 kilobytes per second writes
[07:30] <frt> thats the permission its got -rwxr-xr-x
[07:30] <nezZario> it's on a 32bit machine and also SSD, and I guess zfsonlinux doesn't support TRIM, so I had multiple things working for me there
[07:30] <ikonia> nezZario: who are you talking to ?
[07:30] <nezZario> working against me *
[07:30] <nezZario> Myself
[07:30] <ikonia> nezZario: please don't then
[07:31] <ikonia> Zelbinian: we don't need a commentary
[07:31] <ikonia> ooips
[07:31] <ikonia> Zelbinian: sorry, not you
[07:31] <frt> lol
[07:31] <ikonia> nezZario: we don't need a commentary
[07:31] <frt> ikonia: do u know much about crontabs?
[07:31] <ikonia> frt: why don't you just ask what you want to know,
[07:31] <nezZario> Well if you have any suggestions here, I'm open .. This is really aggrivating .. Just want some simple snapshots
[07:31] <Zelbinian> I was like, what did I say...
[07:31] <ikonia> Zelbinian: sorry, my fault, fat fingers
[07:32] <Zelbinian> ikonia: Happens :)
[07:32] <ikonia> nezZario: I don't see a question, just a comentary, what do you want to know ?
[07:32] <lotus|kiwi>  
[07:32] <histo> frt: can you pastebin yoru crontab please
[07:32] <frt> histo 1 moment
[07:34] <nashant> Hey guys. I don't seem to have the xen-pcifront module in my Ubuntu VM. Where can I get it, and how do I include it?
[07:35] <frt> histo: http://pastebin.com/ztdkWsvd
[07:37] <ikonia> frt: why do you have files in /root - the root account is locked
[07:37] <nezZario> Well I had a lot of questions about lvm earlier.. I didn't understand the snapshotting.  When you create a snapshot in lvm, what exactly are you specifying with the 'size'?
[07:37] <frt> ikonia: mine is unlocked
[07:38] <frt> ikonia: its ubuntu server
[07:38] <aeon-ltd> wut? you login as root?
[07:38] <aeon-ltd> frt: as a normal thing?
[07:38] <frt> yes I dont use su tm
[07:38] <nezZario> For example.. I have a 10G disk, I create a 5G lv that has 2G of data under it, lets call it 'main'.  I create a snapshot with --size 1G, ... is that 1G only for storing differences?
[07:38] <frt> yes yes s normal thing
[07:39] <ikonia> frt: it's still locked on ubuntu server
[07:39] <histo> frt: That script is garbage
[07:39] <frt> histo: well it worked on previous box
[07:39] <ikonia> nezZario: size is the size of the snapshot volume, if you don't set a size it thin provisions the volume which is basically (on demand - but poor)
[07:39] <frt> and what is the error?
[07:40] <frt> aeon-ltd: oki I can remove root via ssh and add root via cert  only later
[07:40] <frt> like aws setup
[07:40] <nezZario> It wouldn't let me create a snapshot without size
[07:40] <frt> histo: script does work via cli
[07:40] <nezZario> It bitched that "I couldn't create it without extents"
[07:41] <ikonia> nezZario yes, you will need free extents to create the volume, the same as a normal non-snap volume
[07:41] <nezZario> So what are you talking about a thin provisions?
[07:41] <histo> frt: What did you paste?
[07:41] <ikonia> nezZario if you don't set a size it thin provisions a volume
[07:41] <frt> histo: what did I paste the file crontab must run
[07:42] <ikonia> (or should)
[07:42] <nezZario> because that's the reason i'm looking at btrfs and zfs .. I basically just want to be able to create a snapshot without having to preallocate space for them, just trying to do decent incremental backups without a bunch of rsync fuckery
[07:42] <ikonia> nezZario: there is zero need for your use of bad language, please stop
[07:42] <histo> frt: why do you have #!/usr/bin/python at the top?
[07:42] <frt> histo:  my friend told me to
[07:42] <frt> since it runs py script
[07:43] <frt> but yes I might have to change shebng
[07:43] <frt> shebang
[07:43] <histo> frt: You aren't making any sense.
[07:43] <histo> frt: that's not a python script
[07:43] <frt> histo: I can run this file manually via sh filename
[07:44] <frt> I want it to run vi crontab
[07:44] <frt> crontab  gives error message as per pastebin
[07:44] <histo> frt: change the top to #!/bin/bash
[07:44] <frt> oki 1 moment
[07:45] <histo> frt: also in a terminal chmod +x what_ever_your_script_name_is.sh
[07:48] <frt> 1 moment all done, checking now
[07:48] <Ben64> frt: what is the python script, why do you want to run it under root's cron?
[07:49] <frt> Ben64 it updates mysql database with new data and exits
[07:49] <Ben64> frt: sounds like a messy way
[07:49] <nezZario> ikonia: really would like to know how thin provisoned is accomplished
[07:50] <ikonia> nezZario: it should be as simple as lvcreate -s -n snapshot_name /path/to/source_name
[07:51] <ikonia> documentation suggests it's better to use -L to set a size for the snapshot
[07:51] <ikonia> (I've always set a size out of habbit)
[07:52] <nezZario> i'm reading docs but this is what I did: http://pastebin.com/SKsEiimZ
[07:53] <frt> lack of sleep is messy :D
[07:53] <frt> now I see its such stupid error
[07:53] <nezZario> Basically, when I used zfs, it was a larger server (so zfs didn't suck, I guess).. I just rsync'd stuff into my backup directory and created a zfs snapshot with the timestamp.. if i wanted to go back a week, i could just pull that snapshot
[07:54] <nezZario> Trying to re-create it with LVM but having all kinds of issues
[07:54] <ikonia> nezZario: I don't know what you are doing there, as you appear to have lots of random things such as a dd command in there
[07:54] <ikonia> nezZario: what version of ubuntu is this ?
[07:54] <frt> working fine now
[07:54] <frt> ty guys, :)
[07:54] <nezZario> sorry, go to the bottom, that was just creating a test file
[07:54] <histo> frt: what was the error?
[07:54] <nezZario> just showing my whole procedure
[07:54] <ikonia> nezZario: your lvcreate syntax doesn't appear sane
[07:54] <ikonia> nezZario: what version of ubuntu is this ?
[07:55] <frt> histo: the stupidest one - I chmod x file in wrong dir
[07:55] <nezZario> 13
[07:55] <ikonia> nezZario: 13 what ?
[07:55] <frt> while cron tab wanted to access script in another dir that was not chmod +x
[07:55] <frt> well things happens
[07:55] <ikonia> nezZario: show me the output of the command uname -a
[07:55] <ikonia> that may be quicker/easier
[07:55] <nezZario> ./etc/issue says Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[07:55] <frt> at least I remember now to secure root access later :)
[07:55] <nezZario> Linux lighthouse 3.11.0-13-generic #20-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 23 17:26:33 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:56] <ikonia> ok, so 13.10
[07:56] <nezZario> its a few months out of date but it's hard to update stuff over my connection
[07:56] <ikonia> nezZario: so the syntax for your volume soure looks wrong as that doesn't look like the path to a volume
[07:56] <Ben64> yes very out of date...
[07:56] <Ben64> 3.11.0.23.24 (saucy)
[07:57] <ikonia> I don't know why you are doing "lvm lvcrate" either, rather than just "lvcreate"
[07:57] <ikonia> your syntax appears a bit random/off
[07:58] <nezZario> same thing if I specify the full device at the end, i.e. lvm lvcreate --snapshot -n snap1 /dev/mapper/usbz-zebra
[07:58] <nezZario> afaik just different way of specifying the vol
[07:58] <ikonia> nezZario: again, I have no idea why you are doing lvm lvcreate
[07:58] <nezZario> How else would ya create a snapshot ?
[07:58] <ikonia> lvcreate -s
[07:59] <ikonia> nezZario: could you please post the output of the following command in a pastebin please
[07:59] <ikonia> nezZario: "vgdisplay"
[07:59] <nezZario> oh, .. same thing.. just symlinks.. /sbin/lvcreate: symbolic link to `lvm'
[08:00] <nezZario> sorry, i learned to use lvm under netbsd and they didn't have those fancy symlinks to the commands :)
[08:00] <nezZario> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7600157/ (pastebinit is awesome)
[08:01] <nezZario> I mean, the lv called 'zebra' takes up 100% of the vg
[08:01] <christophe_> christophe
[08:02] <ikonia> nezZario: you have no free space in that volume group
[08:02] <ikonia> nezZario: that's why it can't auto provision
[08:03] <nezZario> Well I asked that, maybe I'm not understanding this correctly.. I just need to specify a value to give to *all* the snapshots?
[08:03] <ikonia> nezZario: you can't do anything - there is no space in that volume group
[08:03] <nezZario> Sorry, let me clarify, .. If I create the vg with 80% of space used and then use thin provisioned snapshots then each snapshots can grab any portion of that 20% remaining?
[08:04] <CapitalSigma> hey all
[08:04] <lesshaste> I have a pdf document with forms you can fill in. You can happily fill them in in evince but if you "save a copy" all that information seems to be lost
[08:04] <nezZario> sorry, It's late.. I meant lv* with 80% of space used (of the vg)
[08:04] <CapitalSigma> i seem to have somehow messed up the value of umask -- what should it be, by default?
[08:04] <ikonia> not %80
[08:04] <ikonia> that volume group is %100 used
[08:04] <lesshaste> is there any way to work around this?
[08:04] <nezZario> If I re-create it
[08:04] <ikonia> nezZario: you need to have enough free space in the volume group to create the snap shot
[08:05] <ikonia> as I don't know the size of your logical volumes I can't / won't do the maths to work it out
[08:05] <lesshaste> ok it seems okular works
[08:05] <lesshaste> but not evince
[08:05] <nezZario> I guess I'm asking, the thin provisioned snapshots -- it will just pull space from the free space on the VG as needed without specifying a size upfront ?
[08:06] <nezZario> assuming there is free space on the vg
[08:08] <ikonia> nezZario yes
[08:08] <nezZario> Just realized I still messed up that line, then corrected myself to make it incorrect, but glad you understood me.  Apologies, it's 3AM here
[08:08] <nezZario> I've been messing with this for 4 hrs now :/
[08:11] <Guest64542> i am facing the probme to intall ubuntu
[08:11] <Guest64542> can anybody assit me
[08:12] <cfhowlett> !ask|Guest64542
[08:27] <bashoob> hey guys. i'm out of space on my server, and i have to download my backups. however, i can't compress them, i can't tar.gz them to download.
[08:28] <bashoob> is there an option like scp'ing everything and tar.gz'ing?
[08:28] <bashoob> :)
[08:28] <bashoob> sorry, i'm a newbie.
[08:28] <cfhowlett> !server|bashoob
[08:29] <bashoob> ubottu: what does it mean?
[08:29] <cfhowlett> bashoob it means ask your server questions in the #ubuntu-server channel
[08:30] <bashoob> cfhowlett: but this is not a server-specific question.
[08:30] <bashoob> i just want to download some folders.
[08:31] <ichat> bsdbandit:  if you want backup  than use simething  like   freefilesync
[08:32] <histo> bashoob: yes you can compress after you get them. or use rsync with the -x
[08:32] <histo> bashbob sorry -z
[08:33] <ichat> histo:   rsync -x (nice one,  let me see what it does in compression formats etc)
[08:33] <histo> ichat: it's -z for compression
[08:33] <histo> ichat: I typo'd
[08:34] <ichat> histo:  - sounds interesting :P
[08:34] <uranellus> hello, my sw raid is rebuilding right now, I want to know if it's rebuilding from sda3 -> sdb3 or sda3 <- sdb3 .. mdadm --misc --details does not provide that information. any ideas?
[08:34] <ikonia> uranellus: it rebuilds from both - using the most current file
[08:35] <ikonia> it's not a one way sync, it's a rebuild from both with the most up to date meta information
[08:36] <histo> ichat: uses zlib
[08:37] <ichat> histo:  <3 thnx for sharing that one
[08:37] <uranellus> ikonia: oh okay, thanks for the info. unfortunately the server crashed this night and I suspect that one drive failed (or at leasts starts to fail). but I do not know which one it is. that's why I'd like to find out ..
[08:37] <histo> ichat: np too bad he missed it
[08:38] <ikonia> uranellus: you'll see a drive failure/warning in the syslog
[08:38] <ichat> histo:  loads of people are just to lazy or impation to wait for people to reply,  as if we dont have lives jobs and what not
[08:41] <uranellus> ikonia: normally I'd think so too, but in syslog, there is no hint on what caused the sudden unresponsiveness. and all I could find after resetting was, that the sw raid is resyncing. but if I'm understanding your correctly, the resync might be due to the crash but not the reason for it. therefore I must dig deeper / somewhere else ..
[08:46] <Guido2> For which purposes is a 2,4 GHz prozessor and for which a 3,1GHz needed?
[08:47] <Guido2> sorry, if i send the message two times. my chat program just stoped ...
[08:54] <histo> guibou: what do you mean?
[08:55] <uranellus> histo, Guido2 already left..
[09:05] <TuxRescue> once disabled, splash does not come back. what can i do about it?
[09:06] <llida> what splash?
[09:06] <bazhang> reverse what you did and re-enable it TuxRescue
[09:08] <TuxRescue> bazhang: i removed the "quiet splash" line from grub and re-added it. but it takes no effect
[09:09] <e^> TuxRescue: are you running grub-mkconfig ?
[09:10] <TuxRescue> llida: i mean this: http://www.thefanclub.co.za/sites/default/files/styles/300-wide/public/images/howto/ubuntu-boot-splash.png
[09:10] <Codmadness> Cn anyone help? root@playmcpe:~# sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.5
[09:10] <Codmadness> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: mysql-server-5.5 is broken or not fully installed
[09:10] <TuxRescue> e^: i run grub-customizer
[09:10] <TuxRescue> the gui tool
[09:11] <marx^> problem: laptop goes into hibernate when lid is closed, didnt have problem when power-management was configured from X but now using the laptop as ssh server and when lightdm is stopped power-management went on. have acpi-support now installed but no idea howto fix this
[09:11] <llida> Codmadness, I remember seeing you ask this yesterday or so.
[09:11] <Codmadness> No this is different.
[09:12] <e^> TuxRescue: sudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[09:12] <Codmadness> I have reinstalled it 5 times yet when I do root@playmcpe:~# sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.5
[09:12] <Ben64> why sudo while root?
[09:12] <Codmadness> Not sure xD just a habit
[09:12] <Ben64> then you should be not root
[09:13] <llida> Codmadness, that was your yesterday problem. I think there was some utmp involved in almost every output. Did it go away now or does it still happen?
[09:13] <e^> TuxRescue: editthe line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[09:13] <Codmadness> Still happens. I've been trying to find fixes everywhere yet I've gotten no further.
[09:13] <e^> TuxRescue: then run sudo update-grub
[09:14] <Ben64> Codmadness: well pastebin the full command and error you're using
[09:14] <llida> Ok, I will try to read on it now. I did not have time yesterday, it was bed time.
[09:14] <Codmadness> Oh ok. Ill pastebin what im doing
[09:14] <llida> Ben64: "runlevel:/var/run/utmp: No such file or directory" while trying to configure the thing.
[09:15] <llida> Ben64: It is what I remember.
[09:15] <TuxRescue> oh crap, NO. i typo'ed and put "slash" instead of "splash
[09:15] <TuxRescue> sorry guys!
[09:15] <Codmadness> Also just to add Ben64 llida Everytime I do sudo apt-get update I get the error all the time but ill paste bin it now.
[09:15] <llida> Pastebin is helpful, it tells when the error appears.
[09:16] <dusf123> with truecrypt not supporting gpt, and no sign of an update or any fork complete, can any of you recommend an alternative to encrypt windows 8.1 in complment my existing luks encrypted physical volume for linux?
[09:16] <Codmadness> Im just reinstalling it to show the error but when I do it says root@playmcpe:~# sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.5
[09:16] <Codmadness> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: mysql-server-5.5 is broken or not fully installed
[09:16] <Codmadness> WOops wrong paste -.- forgot im on raspberry pi
[09:17] <rahul_> Hii all as i am doing ifconfig i am getting eth1 and so i can't find any other
[09:17] <Ben64> Codmadness: this error is happening on raspberry pi?
[09:17] <e^> rahul_: ifconfig -a
[09:17] <llida> Codmadness, "ls -lad /var/run/utmp" ?
[09:17] <Codmadness> No im just saying im using putty through pi so copy and paste doesn't copy
[09:17] <Codmadness> llida Ill try that after its done reinstalling so i can show error
[09:17] <llida> ok
[09:17] <rahul_> e^, how to change to eth 0 as i want to ssh a pc
[09:18] <rahul_> we are in same net mask
[09:18] <e^> not sure what you mean, if you want it up run sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[09:19] <rahul_> e^, eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[09:19] <e^> you have 2 ethernet interfaces?
[09:19] <e^> if not use eth1
[09:20] <rahul_> No i have only 1 ethernet
[09:20] <rahul_> interface
[09:20] <e^> try rebooting, it might set eth1 to eth0
[09:20] <rahul_> Ohkk
[09:20] <TJ-> rahul_: If the network interface has an IP address already, then it us "up". What is the actual problem regarding connection to the remote PC using "ssh"  - what happens?
[09:24] <e^> rahul_: any luck>
[09:24] <rahul_> e^, No
[09:24] <Codmadness> Heres the errors http://pastebin.com/qVkhdxse
[09:25] <rahul_> i saw /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[09:25] <e^> rahul_: i changed that once, and the same happened.
[09:25] <e^> rahul_: are you trying to change the MAC by any chance?
[09:26]  * Charlie dances.
[09:26] <Codmadness> ben64: llida: http://pastebin.com/qVkhdxse
[09:26] <ulfs> Hi, can anyone, please, help me out with VPN server installation?
[09:26] <rahul_> But the Mac addresses are diffrent in both eth1 and eth0
[09:27] <rahul_> in eth1 i am getting Mac address same as in ifconfig
[09:27] <Charlie> ulfs: sudo aptitude install openvpn
[09:27] <rahul_> e^, ^
[09:27] <makara> rahul_: show output of `sudo route -n`
[09:27] <e^> rahul_: did you modify the file yourself?
[09:27] <rahul_> e^, no i didn't modified
[09:28] <rahul_> makara, http://bpaste.net/show/eUaLFQnKaZ1Tno5SPtaI/
[09:29] <Codmadness> ben64 llida have any ideas what might be wrong?
[09:30] <makara> rahul_: what do you mean `But the Mac addresses are diffrent in both eth1 and eth0`
[09:31] <makara> show where you see that. Is it in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules ?
[09:31] <makara> don't know why you would need to be down there anyway
[09:32] <rahul_> makara,http://bpaste.net/show/EjoptCcYvwCqcRkZZqQN/
[09:32] <makara> rahul_: give more background. Do you have Internet connectivity? Is this a fresh install? What version, etc.
[09:33] <rahul_> see this
[09:33] <rahul_> makara, no , its not a  fresh install
[09:33] <rahul_> and i am on ubuntu 12.04
[09:33] <makara> desktop I presume
[09:33] <rahul_> makara, yes
[09:34] <Codmadness> Can anyone help with these errors? >>> http://pastebin.com/qVkhdxse
[09:34] <rahul_> makara, I want to ssh my pi from here
[09:35] <makara> rahul_: you've got two PCI devices. Did you plug the ethernet cable into the right one?
[09:35] <rahul_> makara, here i can't get the ip of pi in avahi-browse and on either side pi cant ping my ip..
[09:35] <lesshaste> I have a pdf document with forms you can fill in. You can happily fill them in in evince but if you "save a copy" all that information seems to be lost. Is there  a good way to fill in pdf forms?
[09:35] <ulfs> I'm having troubles with ptppd VPN server. I'm able to connect to the VPS where the VPN server is running, but IPs which are defined in pptpd.conf (remoteip) are not assigned to accounts in chap-secrets.
[09:36] <Ben64> Codmadness: pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get update"
[09:36] <makara> lesshaste: can you fill in the form and print to pdf?
[09:36] <lesshaste> makara, yes but you can't save your work as you go on
[09:36] <Codmadness> Ok
[09:38] <rahul_> makara, i got one interface only where i put my lan cable
[09:39] <Codmadness> ben64: I meant upgrade does the error xD
[09:39] <Codmadness> I got mixed up xD
[09:40] <ulfs> I'm having troubles with ptppd VPN server. I'm able to connect to the VPS where the VPN server is running, but IPs which are defined in pptpd.conf (remoteip) are not assigned to accounts in chap-secrets. Anyone? Will pay moneyz. ;D
[09:41] <Ben64> Codmadness: ok... so pastebin "sudo apt-get update" : /
[09:41] <makara> rahul_: so when you disconnect the cable ifconfig should give a different output? Who assigns the IP address - did you set it staticly or does a DHCP router assign it?
[09:41] <makara> and use `ifconfig -a` just in case
[09:42] <Codmadness> Ok xD
[09:42] <tribly> hi there, i have a problem with ubuntu 12.04 lts running as a backup server. after about 4 days of uptime, there is no output to the display anymore. i tried disabeling the screensaver, which helped a bit, but when i turn off the display and turn it on 4 days after, it's just black, telling me there is no input source
[09:42] <rahul_> makara, any suggestion for me
[09:42] <rahul_> how to do this
[09:42] <rahul_> DHCP Router
[09:43] <makara> rahul_: can you ping the router?
[09:45] <rahul_> makara, same problem after ernserting internet cable
[09:45] <rahul_> &reinserting
[09:46] <TJ-> rahul_: Let's back up a bit, I think you need to explain the actual problem, not what you think is the cause. As I understand you, you have 2 PCs on the same local sub-net, and you want to SSH from one PC to the other?
[09:46] <makara> yeah, back up a lot
[09:47] <rahul_> TJ-, yes, i want to ssh my Raspberry pi. But i can ping its ip from here. and then i see that my interface is eth1
[09:47] <rahul_> How to make it eth0
[09:47] <rahul_> ?
[09:47] <histo> tribly: which screensaver?
[09:47] <lamrz> hello people, I'm really interested in accurate information on this: how can I detect a keylogger on my ubuntu system? I found out about this article: http://askubuntu.com/questions/169887/how-can-i-detect-a-keylogger-on-my-system
[09:47] <Ben64> rahul_: why does it even matter what its called?
[09:48] <user_> i try to connect to vpn on my vps. But i get disconneted when i connect to vpn. openvpn change route rulles or something... how can i make this work ?
[09:48] <histo> rahul_: Who cares which eth it is
[09:48] <histo> rahul_: ssh someuser@ip.address.of.pi
[09:48] <Codmadness> user_ I think that is because its already connected to the providor and you're chaning the ip address which will disconnect you.
[09:48] <rahul_> histo, then why i am not getting any other information in avahi-browse
[09:48] <tribly> histo: i don't know, the default one. or the screen-black-time stuff, not sure
[09:49] <rahul_> and also why can't i ping it//
[09:49] <rahul_> My next pc is working fine ..
[09:49] <Baako> hi guys i am trying to set up a VPN connection so I van remote desktop to my pc at work. In my nexus 10 and it easy for me to vpn because i just go to settings. add the name and the server address and thats it
[09:49] <TJ-> rahul_: Great.. so, if the RasPi is pingable, the next obvious question is, on the RasPi, is the ssh daemon running, and secondly, does the RasPi or the PC have any firewall rules blocking SSH (TCP port 22) ?
[09:50] <histo> tribly: is this a desktop machine or a server?
[09:50] <Baako> but in ubuntu i am using networking connection
[09:50] <tribly> histo: desktop
[09:50] <Baako> but it doesn't connect
[09:50] <histo> tribly: anything in your syslog?
[09:50] <rahul_> TJ-, my next pc is connected to pi... via ssh
[09:50] <Baako> i have try Re,,ona Remote desktop client and it still doesn't connect
[09:50] <histo> -o uptime
[09:50] <user_> Codmadness: Yes, but how i can make it work ? I need to make changes in vpn client config or ..?
[09:51] <ulfs> I'm having troubles with ptppd VPN server. I'm able to connect to the VPS where the VPN server is running, but IPs which are defined in pptpd.conf (remoteip) are not assigned to accounts in chap-secrets. Anyone? Will pay moneyz. ;D
[09:51] <TJ-> rahul_: So, you have 2 PCs, one of which connects over SSH to the RasPi, and the other doesn't, but the PCs are on the same subnet as the RasPi?
[09:51] <rahul_> How to know weather some thing is blocking it or not//
[09:51] <rahul_> TJ-, Yes
[09:51] <TJ-> rahul_: Are you trying to connect to the RasPi using its IP address, or a hostname?
[09:51] <llida> Codmadness, try to create the file as http://askubuntu.com/questions/296946/upstart-cant-start-mysql suggests
[09:51] <rahul_> TJ-, by ssh pi@<ip addr>
[09:52] <histo> rahul_: is the machine that won't connect to it able to ping anything on the network?
[09:52] <llida> Codmadness, should be interesting to find what package bugged it up, but I can't tell so I have to rely on incompetent and ugly solutions / workarounds
[09:52] <TJ-> rahul_: OK .... and what failure messages do you get, precisely, when you try to ssh ?
[09:52] <llida> Codmadness, is it server or desktop ?
[09:52] <rahul_> histo, No.. i cant ping any other's ip
[09:52] <TJ-> histo: rahul_ said he can ping the RasPi from the same PC that can't SSH
[09:53] <Codmadness> llida its a server
[09:53] <TJ-> rahul_: ??
[09:53] <tribly> histo: no idea http://paste.tribly.de/kdD/
[09:53] <rahul_> TJ-, No
[09:53] <llida> Codmadness, please do try leaving a question in the #ubuntu-server channel too
[09:53] <rahul_> TJ-, I neither ping it and nor ssh from this pc
[09:53] <TJ-> rahul_: earlier you said "TJ-, yes, i want to ssh my Raspberry pi. But i can ping its ip from here. and then i see that my interface is eth1"
[09:53] <histo> tribly: I'd start searching logs for errors
[09:54] <tribly> histo: what logs?
[09:54] <Codmadness> llida I have a vnc connected as well
[09:54] <TJ-> rahul_: So, in that comment "here" meant the 'other' PC that can also SSH to the RasPi ?
[09:54] <rahul_> TJ-, Sorry.. Mistake
[09:54] <histo> rahul_: How are you setting up the network?
[09:54] <Codmadness> llida , ben64 Heres upgrade http://pastie.org/9263748
[09:54] <llida> Codmadness, they do have different repos and userbase so I hope they could know some more context
[09:54] <histo> tribly: /var/log/*
[09:54] <tribly> histo: and for what kind of error? never had such a problem before
[09:54] <TJ-> rahul_: OK ... so lets call the 'good' PC PC1, and the 'bad' PC PC2, so we don't get confused
[09:54] <rahul_> TJ-, instead me all other pc can ping and ssh Rpi
[09:55] <histo> tribly: I'd look for clues in there as to why it's hanging.
[09:55] <llida> Codmadness, try solution from http://askubuntu.com/questions/261250/dpkg-invoke-rc-d-initscript-mysql-action-start-failed
[09:55] <histo> tribly: also is it hard locked?  like does the numlock key still work?
[09:55] <rahul_> Ok..
[09:55] <TJ-> rahul_: So, when you pastebin-ed the output of "ifconfig" earlier, was that from the bad PC2 ?
[09:55] <rahul_> PC 1 cant ssh and cant ping but PC 2 can ssh and ping it
[09:55] <llida> Codmadness, that is, reinstall mysql-common
[09:55] <rahul_> TJ-, yes of PC 1
[09:55] <Codmadness> llida I've already tried the link you gave which never worked
[09:55] <TJ-> rahul_: OK, we call the 'bad' PC PC1 then!
[09:56] <llida> Codmadness, it is a different link now
[09:56] <histo> rahul_: How are you configuring the network on PC1
[09:56] <rahul_> histo, Means??
[09:56] <Codmadness> I've already tried those fixes
[09:56] <TJ-> rahul_: Are you using NetworkManager to do it automatically, or have to added manual entries to "/etc/network/interfaces" ?
[09:56] <rahul_> And i am over Xchat from PC 1
[09:56] <histo> rahul_: pastebin the ifconfig and ip addr of PC1
[09:56] <llida> Codmadness, tried 'sudo aptitude reinstall mysql-common' ?
[09:56] <histo> rahul_: wtf
[09:56] <histo> rahul_: so PC1 does have network access?
[09:56] <Codmadness> Nope ill try that in a sec
[09:57] <llida> ok
[09:57] <rahul_> histo, Yes..
[09:57] <histo> rahul_: are you trolling?
[09:57] <llida> no
[09:57] <TJ-> rahul_: You're totally confusing us now! You just said "PC 1 cant ssh and cant ping" .. do you mean it can't ssh or ping to RasPi, but it can to other hosts and the Internet?
[09:57] <tribly> histo: don't know. i'm always doing a hard-reset because i can't do crap with no output
[09:57] <rahul_> histo, you are making me confuse
[09:57] <llida> yes he is
[09:57] <TJ-> histo: It's a language issue, don't be harsh
[09:57] <llida> look at TJ- more
[09:58] <mashu> i have dual monitors ... why are my screens in the wrong order on login screen ... but once ive logged in ... they are in the right order?
[09:58] <TJ-> rahul_: Am I correct that English isn't your first language?
[09:58] <histo> rahul_: pastebin the output of 'ip addr'  in a terminal
[09:58] <ikonia> moritzs: because the desktop settings (which you save) order them, before that you've not logged in
[09:58] <ikonia> oops
[09:58] <ikonia> mashu:  because the desktop settings (which you save) order them, before that you've not logged in
[09:58] <rahul_> TJ-, yes.. Sorry for it
[09:58] <histo> rahul_: also the results of ping <ip address of pi>
[09:58] <rahul_> histo, ok
[09:58] <mashu> ikonia, huh?
[09:59] <Voyage> how can I know which apps are using what ports internally (those ports are not visible by  nmap localhost for some reason i think)
[09:59] <TJ-> rahul_: Don't apologise, it's OK, it just means that we need to be very clear on what we mean in the questions we ask, we cannot assume you understand our inferences
[09:59] <histo> tribly: well next time it's dead try pressing the numlock key and seeing if the light turns on and off on the kb.  Or you can try ctrl+alt+F1 to switch to a tty and out of X
[09:59] <mashu> ikonia, how can i order them before i log in?
[09:59] <histo> Voyage: netstat
[09:59] <ikonia> mashu when you login your desktop is loaded, the screen/order/layout is part of your desktop settings, before that you've not logged in so they default to the card port order, which in your case, you have plugged in in the wrong order
[09:59] <TJ-> mashu: before log-in, they're positioned based on GPU's definition of 'head' order
[09:59] <lamrz> I just ran CHKROOTKIT, while most outputs were "nothing found" or "not infected", some outputs were remarked as "nothing deleted", "not tested", "nothing detected" "no suspect files" and once "it may take a while..." which remained the same when the command finished processing. might this latter variety of outputs hint at something?
[10:00] <ikonia> lamrz: chrootkit is a waste of time unless you fully understand it
[10:00] <gdt1> can anyone help me with xubuntu? Energy saving not work on my notebook...
[10:00] <mashu> TJ-, how do I change that order?
[10:00] <tribly> histo: i don't have time for that. and i can't switch to tty, because i get no output at all, because my display can't detect any input source
[10:00] <ikonia> mashu: swap the cables around
[10:00] <ikonia> mashu: that is the easy option
[10:00] <rahul_> TJ-, yes..
[10:00] <rahul_> histo, http://bpaste.net/show/DTTWgjFVmJu6EcYBIY8Q/
[10:01] <rahul_> check this it will clear all the thins
[10:01] <histo> tribly: Okay.
[10:01] <mashu> ikonia, i cant unfortunately ...
[10:01] <rahul_> *things , i mean issue
[10:01] <ikonia> mashu why ?
[10:01] <mashu> ikonia, one is HDMI other is VGA
[10:01] <lamrz> ikonia, #i followed these infos: http://www.webhostgear.com/25.html
[10:01] <TJ-> rahul_: Let's summarise where we *think* we are. You have a LAN 192.168.1.0/24. Alll hosts (RasPi and PC1 and PC2) can connect to the Internet ?
[10:01] <ikonia> lamrz: doesn't change what I said
[10:01] <mashu> ikonia, seems silly that you cant change it in settings somewhere
[10:02] <ikonia> mashu: you'll need to define them in an xorg.conf
[10:02] <ikonia> mashu: as that is loaded when xorg starts up, not when you login
[10:02] <Codmadness> bb261000
[10:02] <Codmadness> thats the error
[10:02] <Codmadness> i got
[10:02] <rahul_> TJ-, yes..  But this statement is wrong You have a LAN 192.168.1.0/24
[10:02] <nishant> what is LDAP?
[10:02] <rahul_> Bcoz my ip is 192.168.1.35
[10:02] <TJ-> mashu: You could have lightdm run a script with "xrandr --output HDMI leftof VGA" or similar
[10:02] <ikonia> nishant: a directory service,
[10:03] <rahul_> TJ-, all are connected to internet
[10:03] <lamrz> ikonia, basically I just want to find if there is a keylogger or clipboard logger or similar.
[10:03] <llida> Codmadness, bb261000 ??
[10:03] <ikonia> lamrz: why would there be ?
[10:03] <Codmadness> yeh it gave error
[10:03] <lesshaste> I have a pdf document with forms you can fill in. You can happily fill them in in evince but if you "save a copy" all that information seems to be lost. Is there  a good way to fill in pdf forms?
[10:04] <TJ-> rahul_: The sub-network (subnet) is 192.168.1.0 to 192.168.1.255, which means it has a 'netmask' of 255.255.255.0, which we write in shorthand as 192.168.1.0/24 which means that the last 8 bits can change
[10:04] <llida> Codmadness, give more detail please, it sounds like we're getting closer to the center of the problem hopefully
[10:04] <rahul_> TJ-, yes..
[10:04] <llida> Codmadness, I have PMs disabled
[10:04] <ulfs> I'm having troubles with ptppd VPN server. I'm able to connect to the VPS where the VPN server is running, but IPs which are defined in pptpd.conf (remoteip) are not assigned to accounts in chap-secrets. Anyone?
[10:04] <Codmadness> Oh xD
[10:04] <TJ-> rahul_: All connected to the Internet is good - that tells us that you don't have a basic interface issue.
[10:04] <llida> sorry :)
[10:04] <rahul_> TJ-, yes
[10:05] <lamrz> ikonia, I dont know why. but it would help me now if there was one, and I would be able to read its data
[10:05] <Codmadness> llida http://pastie.org/9263784
[10:05] <TJ-> rahul_: Now, how are the PCs and RasPi connected to your home router? Are they all using wires, or are some using WiFi (wireless) ?
[10:05] <lamrz> ikonia, I was also reading this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/169887/how-can-i-detect-a-keylogger-on-my-system
[10:05] <rahul_> TJ-, by Wires
[10:05] <Codmadness> rahul_ whats your question? Im on my raspberry pi right now
[10:05] <TJ-> rahul_: OK, that's good. So we don't have to worry about the router
[10:05] <ikonia> lamrz: unless you have reason to believe there is a key logger, you are wasting your time blindly looking
[10:05] <rahul_> TJ-, yes
[10:06] <TJ-> Codmadness: He has 1 PC on his network that cannot ping/ssh the RasPi, but other PCs that can. All PCs otherwise have connectivity
[10:06] <histo> rahul_: what does ip route show for default?
[10:06] <rahul_> Codmadness, you can scroll up
[10:06] <Codmadness> rahul_ Ever thought of getting a wifi usb?
[10:06] <lonix> so does anyone here have any byobu fu ?
[10:06] <Codmadness> Im using a wifi usb on my pi
[10:06] <TJ-> rahul_: Did you install anything like fail2ban on the RasPi?
[10:06] <rahul_> Codmadness, I did this all stuff.. I am working over pi sice 6 months
[10:06] <lonix> 14.04 -> byobu -> tmux -> dynamic window titles (last command or something)
[10:07] <lamrz> ikonia, I guess how much you believe that there is a keylogger shouldnt be interfering with your need to search for it?
[10:07] <rahul_> TJ-, No i didn't
[10:07] <ikonia> lamrz: yes, it should
[10:07] <llida> Codmadness, ok, try "sudo apt-get install mysql-server --fix-missing --fix-broken"
[10:07] <lonix> most help\docs i find is for screen backend
[10:07] <ikonia> lamrz: if you disagree, continue searching blindly and waste your time
[10:07] <Codmadness> rahul_ mhm you tried to find out what your ip is for the pi and then connect to that?
[10:07] <rahul_> histo, you mean route -n
[10:07] <Codmadness> llida ok
[10:08] <histo> rahul_: or that... What's your gateway set to for eth1
[10:08] <rahul_> Codmadness, I am doing the same dear.. but i cant find any thing from this Pc, Fault is on this PC not on pi
[10:08] <Codmadness> mh
[10:08] <histo> rahul_: or the pi could be firewalling you.
[10:09] <histo> rahul_: can you ping pc2 from pc1 ?
[10:09] <TJ-> rahul_: From the PC that *can* do ssh to the RasPi, connect to the RasPi now (if you aren't already) and then do "sudo tcpdump -ni eth0 host 192.168.1.35" ... then on the PC that *cannot* connect to the RasPi, do "ping <ip-of-RasPi>" ... on the RasPi, do you see any network packets arriving?
[10:09] <Codmadness> rahul_ try setting up a vnc server on it and see if it connects
[10:09] <lonix> ls
[10:09] <rahul_> histo, no i can't ping any of the PC fro this machine
[10:09] <lamrz> ikonia, I really have no time for I-know-it-all-so-stop-the-nonsense-you-talk-about attitude. I'm literally blown up. my data is gone. this kind of search is one of the last things that one can try. this is nothing for geek musing! I really need someone who is patient and humble enough to tell me why and why not
[10:09] <histo> rahul_: your gateway is setup wrong then probably
[10:10] <histo> rahul_: do what TJ- said
[10:10] <rahul_> histo, how to make it then..
[10:10] <rahul_> Yes working
[10:10] <ikonia> lamrz I've just told you why not
[10:10] <Codmadness> llida http://pastie.org/9263800
[10:10] <TJ-> rahul_: From the bad PC1 can you do "sudo iptables -S | pastebinit" and tell us the URL?
[10:10] <ikonia> lamrz: unless you have reason to believe you have a key logged (thus a symptom) you have nothing to look at and will be looking at $nothing trying to work out where a possibly fantasy keylogger is
[10:10] <Ben64> Codmadness: "sudo apt-get update"
[10:11] <Ben64> Codmadness: you keep not pasting that...
[10:11] <rahul_> TJ-, wait
[10:11] <llida> Codmadness, ps aux | grep mys
[10:11] <ikonia> lamrz: if you think thats "know it all" - good luck to you, continue searching,
[10:11] <ikonia> rather than experienced advice
[10:11] <Codmadness> root     11502  0.0  0.0   2256   648 pts/2    S+   14:14   0:00 grep --color=auto mys
[10:12] <llida> aw
[10:12] <llida> hrm
[10:12] <llida> Codmadness, for Ben64, paste 'sudo apt-get update' please
[10:12] <lamrz> attitude is everything. and it significantly differs, sadly.
[10:12] <rahul_> TJ-, http://bpaste.net/show/wOngw9PAosj29lUqyGJ4/
[10:12] <ikonia> lamrz then ignore my experierneced advice.
[10:12] <llida> lamrz, I'm nice and attentive to people - so your comment is perhaps better suited in /msg
[10:12] <TJ-> rahul_: Thank-you, that looks good.
[10:13] <llida> lamrz, /msg with the specific people you have issues with
[10:13] <TJ-> rahul_: Now show us "ip route ls | pastebinit"
[10:13] <llida> lamrz, the channel doesn't need those things - I don't at least :)
[10:13] <lamrz> llida what kind of things?
[10:13] <rahul_> TJ-, http://bpaste.net/show/d8yAUKozijAo9MOjlGVe/
[10:13] <llida> lamrz, musings on attitude that differs yadda yadda :)
[10:14] <lamrz> llida I hope you live my situation one day
[10:14] <lamrz> than you know whether I am in a state to muse or not
[10:14] <Ben64> lamrz: basically, don't argue with the people trying to help you, unless you want no help
[10:14] <llida> I like living in hard situations, that makes me feel normal. When things go well, I become a bit happier than average
[10:14] <bosnjak> hi all.
[10:14] <llida> hi bosnjak
[10:14] <Codmadness> ben64 http://pastie.org/9263810
[10:15] <llida> thanks Codmadness :)
[10:15] <Codmadness> ;D
[10:15] <bosnjak> I have lost the ability to autocomplete with tab for "apt-get install", and on "apt-get update" i get some errors: http://pastie.org/9263808
[10:15] <lamrz> ben64 that's your way of understanding being here
[10:15] <lamrz> thankfully, helping each other is more than that, regardless of your view of it
[10:15] <llida> lamrz: I'm relaxed and focused on some question, please, don't ruin it :)
[10:15] <bosnjak> why would there be errors for extras.ubuntu.com, the server is accessible and all..
[10:15] <rahul_> TJ-, Is it fine?
[10:15] <ikonia> llida: how did your module upgrade go on the wifi module ?
[10:16] <ikonia> llida: did it work ? have a positive/negative impact ?
[10:16] <TJ-> rahul_: Yes, that's good too :)
[10:16] <floridsdorf> hi
[10:16] <llida> ikonia: it sort of helped - the wifi goes out sometimes but much less regularly at this point
[10:16] <ikonia> llida: so that was the module on it's own, or module + firmware you did ?
[10:16]  * tcharlss_ va chasser-cueillir
[10:16] <Codmadness> llida have any other ideas?
[10:17] <rahul_> TJ-, then what could be the problem..  :|
[10:17] <Codmadness> Im just at a loss
[10:17] <llida> ikonia: I updated everything including the module
[10:17] <llida> Codmadness, I'm reading and looking at Ben64
[10:17] <ikonia> llida: interesting,
[10:17] <Codmadness> Oh ok
[10:18] <Ben64> Codmadness: i'm not sure what the tor repo provides, could be causing a conflict
[10:19] <Codmadness> What could stop it conflicting?
[10:19] <llida> Codmadness: do you have any useful config or data related to mysql on your server?
[10:19] <Codmadness> Ok ill get the my.cnf
[10:19] <TJ-> rahul_: what is the IP address of the RasPi?
[10:19] <Ben64> maybe purge all the mysql stuff and reinstall?
[10:19] <rahul_> 192.168.1.2
[10:20] <Codmadness> ben64 already done that
[10:20] <Ben64> did you actually use purge though?
[10:20] <TJ-> rahul_: Let's try monitoring the network whilst a 'ping' is running: "sleep 2 && ping -nc 2 192.168.1.2& sudo tcpdump -nc 4 -i eth1 host 192.168.1.2 and icmp | pastebinit"
[10:21] <Codmadness> YEs ben64
[10:22] <Ben64> Codmadness: sudo service mysql status
[10:22] <rahul_> TJ-, http://bpaste.net/show/tvqVOgJvPWmgRxwVCo4G/  it hangs here
[10:22] <ASHER1> hello
[10:22] <Codmadness> root@playmcpe:~# sudo service mysql status
[10:22] <Codmadness> mysql stop/waiting
[10:22] <Codmadness>  ben64
[10:22] <ASHER1> i have problem with ssl on ubuntu
[10:22] <Ben64> Codmadness: change the status to start and try that again
[10:23] <ASHER1> how i can fix this problem?
[10:23] <ASHER1> Can't exec "libgcrypt-config": No such file or directory at make/utilities.pm line 381, <FLAGS> line 43.
[10:23] <ikonia> ASHER1: what are you trying to make ?
[10:23] <Codmadness> ben64 root@playmcpe:~# sudo service mysql start
[10:23] <Codmadness> start: Job failed to start
[10:23] <ASHER1> install ssl gnutls
[10:23] <ikonia> ASHER1: how are you trying to install it
[10:23] <ASHER1> i told you
[10:23] <TJ-> rahul_: Yay! At last, we have some firm information :)
[10:23] <ikonia> ASHER1: it looks like you are trying to compile it
[10:24] <ikonia> ASHER1: you didn't tell me - you pasted 1 line of error
[10:24] <ASHER1> this ok
[10:24] <rahul_> TJ-, what
[10:24] <rahul_> ?
[10:24] <ASHER1> ohh
[10:24] <ASHER1> ok one sec
[10:24] <ikonia> ASHER1: please just answer the quesiton "how are you trying to install it"
[10:24] <ikonia> ASHER1: you are trying to use a package from the ubuntu repos/3rd party repo, or compile it
[10:25] <ASHER1> http://pastebin.com/2y5bSdn4
[10:25] <ASHER1> this my error
[10:25] <ASHER1> i try install something module
[10:25] <ikonia> ASHER1: I didn't ask you fore the error
[10:25] <ikonia> ASHER1: I asked you how are you trying to install it
[10:25] <Voyage>  iam getting "HTTP Status 500 - Unable to bind to locking port 7054 within 45000 ms" in some app but netstat | grep 7054    or   lsof  | grep 7054  shows me nothing
[10:25] <TJ-> rahul_: "ARP, Request who-has 192.168.1.2 tell 192.168.1.35," .... that is your PC asking on the network for the Ethernet MAC of the device with IP 192.168.1.2, but no device responds
[10:25] <ASHER1> i told you install module from inspircd ircd
[10:26] <Codmadness> Im just getting the mysql config for you
[10:26] <ikonia> ASHER1: "are you trying to install it from a package from the ubuntu/3rd party repos , or build/compile it from source"
[10:26] <TJ-> rahul_: Are you 100% sure that the RasPi currently has the IP address 192.168.1.2 ?
[10:26] <ASHER1> i dont know how i install package
[10:26] <ASHER1> i have version 10
[10:26] <Ben64> Codmadness: see if theres an error log with whats stopping it from running
[10:26] <ikonia> ASHER1: then you shouldn't be doing it
[10:26] <ikonia> ASHER1: thats the bottom line
[10:26] <rahul_> TJ-, Yes
[10:26] <ikonia> ASHER1: however lets try to find out what you want and get you a resolution
[10:26] <Codmadness> Ok one second
[10:27] <ikonia> ASHER1: exactly what is it you want to install
[10:27] <ulfs> I'm having troubles with ptppd VPN server. I'm able to connect to the VPS where the VPN server is running, but IPs which are defined in pptpd.conf (remoteip) are not assigned to accounts in chap-secrets. Anyone?
[10:27] <TJ-> rahul_: OK... and am I correct that both the RasPi and PC1 are connected by wire to the same home router?
[10:27] <rahul_> Yes
[10:27] <ASHER1> this from ircd
[10:27] <ASHER1> inspircd
[10:27] <ASHER1> i try install this
[10:27] <Codmadness> ben64 llida heres the my.cnf http://pastie.org/9263836
[10:27] <ASHER1> xecuting program for module m_ssl_gnutls.cpp ... libgcrypt-config --cflags
[10:27] <Ben64> ikonia: if i'm understanding properly, ASHER1 wants to run an irc server, with gnutls ssl capabilities
[10:27] <ikonia> ASHER1: ok, stop, as it looks like you are trying to compile something
[10:27] <Codmadness> Ill get the error logs
[10:27] <TJ-> rahul_: Have you configured the home router with any VLANs?
[10:28] <ikonia> Ben64: ok, that makes a little more sense, thank you
[10:28] <ASHER1> how i can fix this?
[10:28] <ikonia> ASHER1: ok - so what version of ubuntu is this ? lets look for a package
[10:28] <ASHER1> something command?
[10:29] <rahul_> TJ-, no the Rpi have 192.168.1.31
[10:29] <ASHER1> i have ubuntu 10.4
[10:29] <rahul_> Sorry Now
[10:29] <rahul_> i Off it and then on
[10:29] <ikonia> ASHER1: ubuntu 10.04 ?
[10:29] <TJ-> rahul_: That'd explain it!!
[10:29] <ASHER1> yes
[10:29] <TJ-> rahul_: so "ssh pi@192.168.1.31" will work :)
[10:29] <ikonia> ASHER1: ok, so there is an inspircd ubuntu package
[10:30] <ikonia> ASHER1: if you open software center/synaptic and search for inspircd you should see the package
[10:30] <ikonia> ASHER1: if you click "install" on that package, it will install it for you
[10:30] <rahul_> TJ-, same issue
[10:30] <ikonia> ASHER1: looking at the documentation on it, it is already tls enabled in that package
[10:30] <rahul_> :(
[10:30] <ASHER1> i run without install package
[10:30] <ikonia> ASHER1: ok, use the install package
[10:30] <TJ-> rahul_: Really? And at the same time PC2 can ping the RasPi on 192.168.1.31 ?
[10:30] <ikonia> ASHER1: do not build from source, use the ubuntu package
[10:30] <ASHER1> :\ what i need again run inspircd?
[10:30] <ikonia> ASHER1: the ubuntu package
[10:31] <Voyage> why do I get this error with the version? rbuchmann__
[10:31] <rahul_> host unreachable..
[10:31] <rahul_> TJ-, i think this PC have some fault
[10:31] <TJ-> rahul_: OK, I want you to gather the same output from both PC1 (bad) and PC2 (good) and pastebin it: "ip neigh show"
[10:31] <rahul_> I have connected 192.168.1.1 dev eth1 lladdr b0:c5:54:f4:93:18 REACHABLE
[10:31] <rahul_> 192.168.1.31 dev eth1  FAILED
[10:31] <rahul_> wait i will paste bin it
[10:32] <TJ-> rahul_: Thanks
[10:33] <rahul_> TJ-, wait
[10:33] <Voyage> why do I get this error with the version?  $firefox --version     (process: 6063): Glib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed               Mozilla Firefox 29.0
[10:34] <rahul_> i have
[10:34] <Codmadness> ben64 im trying to find the error logs >.<
[10:35] <rahul_> TJ-, http://bpaste.net/show/e1Q1fNfuAAEGLfdf24Ow/
[10:35] <rahul_> check this
[10:38] <rahul_> TJ-, back in 5 min
[10:38] <TJ-> rahul_: Thanks, that is *interesting*. I did a vendor lookup on the MAC addresses of 192.168.1.1 (the router). The MAC reported by PC2 is a Netgear chipset, but the MAC reported by PC1 is *not* recognised. Can you tell me the make and model of the router?
[10:39] <Codmadness> ben64 would know where the error logs are?
[10:41] <TJ-> rahul_: OK, correction, found it at IEEE, it's a DLink chipset.... I'd still like to know the make/model of the router because I would expect the Ethernet chipset to be the same for all ports on it
[10:44] <Voyage> how to know my ubuntu version?
[10:44] <Codmadness> ben64 ill send the error logs in a sec
[10:44] <TJ-> Voyage: "lsb_release -a" or "cat /etc/issue"
[10:46] <Voyage> k
[10:48] <Codmadness> ben64 llida   pastie.org/9263881
[10:48] <Codmadness> Thats error logs
[10:49]  * gry curses at the internet
[10:50] <gry> 140606 14:45:28 [ERROR] Can't start server: Bind on TCP/IP port: Cannot assign requested address
[10:50] <gry> 140606 14:45:28 [ERROR] Do you already have another mysqld server running on port: 3307
[10:50] <gry> those two are especially meaningful to me
[10:50] <Codmadness> how xD
[10:50] <gry> ps aux | grep mys
[10:50] <gry> also someone may be able to show you how to check that port in netstat
[10:51] <Codmadness> root@playmcpe:~# ps aux | grep mys
[10:51] <Codmadness> root     11554  0.4  0.9  92280 20576 ?        Sl   14:25   0:08 gedit file:///etc/mysql/my.cnf
[10:51] <Codmadness> root     18063  0.0  0.0   2256   644 pts/2    R+   14:54   0:00 grep --color=auto mys
[10:51] <Codmadness> WOops should have pastebined it >.<
[10:54] <Voyage> I want to download firefox v20.deb . how /where can iget it?
[10:55] <Codmadness> voyage sudo apt-cache search firefox
[10:56] <Voyage> how to know if iam on 64bit or 32 bitg?
[10:57] <TJ-> Voyage: "uname -m"
[10:59] <Codmadness> ben64 gry any ideas?
[11:00] <Codmadness> Can anyone help? root@playmcpe:~# sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.5
[11:01] <Ojoloco> hi there, is there any easy way to setup Gmail as a smtp relay?
[11:05] <Paddy_NI> Ojoloco, here http://bit.ly/SAuWao
[11:06] <Ojoloco> Paddy_NI: most of them are too old tutorials :\
[11:06] <Paddy_NI> Oh that Lifehacker article looks good
[11:06] <Paddy_NI> Ojoloco, I'll try it myself
[11:07] <Ojoloco> but what I'm trying to do is to use gmail as a relay for sendmail()
[11:08] <Loshki> Ojoloco: about the easiest I've found is ssmtp. All my system mail goes to my gmail account...
[11:08] <Paddy_NI> Ojoloco, Oh I see
[11:09] <Ojoloco> Loshki: I'll try ssmtp, thanks!
[11:09] <costel> join #dvd
[11:10] <Paddy_NI> Ojoloco, This looks promising http://linuxconfig.org/configuring-gmail-as-sendmail-email-relay
[11:10] <Paddy_NI> Very few steps
[11:11] <makara> gry: what u trying to do?
[11:12] <makara> gry: sudo netstat -tupan
[11:13] <gry> makara: help Codmadness with figuring out what is already listening on port 3307
[11:13] <Codmadness> mhm
[11:14] <gry> Codmadness: that you're continuing to use this channel intead of the server one is disconcerting
[11:14] <cfhowlett> gry /darth vader voice/   ??
[11:14] <Codmadness> Well mysql-server doesn't even install properly
[11:15] <Codmadness> #mysql keep sayings its a ubuntu problem
[11:15] <Voyage> what are AMI machines for ubuntu?
[11:15] <cfhowlett> Codmadness most people on this channel don't use mysql.  #ubuntu-server, however ...
[11:16] <Codmadness> No one talks in #ubuntu-server xD
[11:16] <Codmadness> Its a ghost town
[11:16] <makara> so its already running. now what?
[11:16] <gry> Codmadness: you can still ask them even if they're not talking
[11:16] <Codmadness> I already have
[11:16] <makara> connect to it already
[11:16] <Codmadness> Waited for a reply for over 4 hours
[11:17] <gry> they lost it, ask it again
[11:17] <gry> dammit, lag. It is so much inappropriate for a text-only connection. :-(
[11:17] <gry> thanks :)
[11:17] <Codmadness> Finaly someones talking
[11:17] <Codmadness> ;D
[11:18] <makara> who's listening?
[11:18] <Codmadness> bgardner
[11:18] <Codmadness> ;D
[11:18] <gry> makara: pastie.org/9263881 was from Codmadness
[11:51] <baprath> leave
[11:57] <yakiza> guys are you here
[11:57] <ikonia> there are 1400+ people
[11:58] <yakiza>  do you guys know how to change my mother bord i buy my mother board
[11:58] <ikonia> the guys in the ##hardware channel can help with that
[11:58] <yakiza>  and i put it is working but i dont know if is
[11:58] <yakiza>  ok
[11:58] <yakiza> sr
[11:59] <sad> Hi
[12:00] <TT-X> ??
[12:00] <TT-X> 谁在
[12:00] <sad> I ve problem with Owncloud.
[12:00] <TT-X> 有会中文的吗
[12:01] <sad> Help !
[12:01] <e^> !chinese | TT-X
[12:01] <Ojoloco> Loshki: I had an error, could you help me?
[12:04] <sad> Can somebody help me please ?
[12:04] <ikonia> sad: to get help, you need to explain the problem
[12:04] <sad> Yes!
[12:05] <sad> Owncloud asks me for serveradres
[12:05] <sad> how can i find it ?
[12:05] <ikonia> sad: it's your server....you configure it
[12:05] <sad> But How?
[12:05] <ikonia> sad: you configure it when you setup the owncloud server
[12:06] <sad> I dont know wat serveradres is...
[12:06] <ikonia> sad: you configure it
[12:06] <ikonia> sad: when you setup own cloud, you configure the address of the server
[12:06] <ikonia> sad: or are you trying to connect to someone else's own cloud instance ?
[12:07] <sad> no
[12:07] <ikonia> sad: then you configure the URL/server address when you build your own cloud server
[12:07] <sad> i want just open an account by owncloud
[12:07] <ikonia> sad: then contact owncloud support/read their documentation on what URL to use
[12:08] <sad> thank
[12:08] <sad> i'll do it !
[12:12] <marx^> is it easy to just using the ubuntu 14.04 install-dvd to make a dual-boot system ? i have destoyed all warez from my windows and waiting for personal files to be synchronized to dropbox, then i'm gonna switch back to ubuntu because i havent played any games in 5 months but left games on my windows partition just to be safe that if i have a desire someday to play games have a windows-system in store for that
[12:13] <marx^> i have one ntfs partition 1TB, so making it smaller is safe today ? and then the dual-boot installation
[12:14] <grippentech> join #ubuntu
[12:14] <grippentech> Hello
[12:14] <grippentech> Hello!
[12:14] <trijntje> hi grippentech
[12:14] <marx^> hello
[12:14] <trijntje> marx^, taht should work, just be sure to have a backup of all important files
[12:15] <mettjus> i guys, i have a cron tab like
[12:15] <mettjus> */1 * * * * ufw disable
[12:15] <mettjus> to avoid locking myself out, but doesn't seem to work as
[12:15] <mettjus> ufw status
[12:15] <mettjus> tells me it's running..
[12:16] <lrylayf37> hello guys
[12:16] <lrylayf37> someone here?
[12:16] <trijntje> !hi
[12:17] <grippentech> Yep
[12:17] <grippentech> You're running. Sorry. I was away for a bit
[12:17] <lrylayf37> im from russia, what do you think about my country? =)
[12:17] <Guest18334> a
[12:17] <grippentech> Its nice! I'm from Romania myself. I life in the US now
[12:18] <lrylayf37> and how it to live in US? =)
[12:18] <grippentech> Its not bad
[12:18] <grippentech> Its just kind of different haha
[12:18] <lrylayf37> =)
[12:19] <grippentech> :)
[12:19] <lrylayf37> you work some where or you student?
[12:19] <grippentech> This is the first time I really try IRC. Its not bad at all. Like HAM Radio for chat
[12:19] <grippentech> Yeah I'm a student.
[12:20] <lrylayf37> yeap, me too first time in IRC
[12:20] <lrylayf37> its really good
[12:20] <lrylayf37> a lot of people who can help
[12:20] <grippentech> What are you running OS wise?
[12:21] <lrylayf37> i have a question about my OS and people help me in 5 min )
[12:21] <lrylayf37> i have ubuntu 12.10
[12:21] <ikonia> lrylayf37: sadly ubuntu 12.10 is end of life/not supported, the first thing you should look at is upgrading/installing a supported/current version of ubuntu
[12:21] <jackarius86> how do you find out what version you have - if you forgot i mean?
[12:21] <grippentech> Yeah
[12:22] <lrylayf37> but want 14, and i thought that i ll get the 14 version this evening )
[12:22] <grippentech> Look at the wallpapers, thats the easiest way
[12:22] <grippentech> They are themed for the version. Just google the animal there haha
[12:22] <ikonia> jackarius86: the about tab in the desktop or lsb_release -a in the shell
[12:22] <grippentech> Or Terminal your way
[12:23] <grippentech> Are there any Devs on?
[12:23] <jackarius86> 14.04
[12:23] <ikonia> grippentech: just ask your question
[12:23] <lrylayf37> i have ubuntu 12.04 already 2 years
[12:23] <lrylayf37> but yesterday i got update it to 12.10
[12:24] <grippentech> Does anyone have any idea why I can't type on the Intel-GFX channel?
[12:24] <SonikkuAmerica> lrylayf37: 12.10 is no longer supported
[12:24] <jackarius86> i installed the minimal version without knowing too much about linux, now im like a linux boss :P
[12:24] <ikonia> grippentech: that is nothing to do with this channel, #freenode channel can help you
[12:24] <grippentech> It just say Cannot Send To Channel
[12:24] <grippentech> Ok thanks
[12:25] <lrylayf37> jackarius how many years do you use linux? =)
[12:25] <jackarius86> ive used it on and off for about 10 yrs, but only graphical versions
[12:25] <nectarys> How do I get the Skype status icon on the main bar of ubuntu?
[12:26] <lrylayf37> Sonikku i know that 12.10  not supported =) and i want to upgrade it to 14
[12:26] <nectarys> How do I get the Skype status icon on the main bar of ubuntu?
[12:26] <jackarius86> but after customising my own os by using the minimal image (which has been hard work). now i have grown a massive appreciation for the command line
[12:26] <SonikkuAmerica> such code, very cmdline, wow
[12:27] <lrylayf37> nectarys when you starts skype the status icon must be at the top bar
[12:27] <nectarys> lrylayf37, it's not :/
[12:28] <lrylayf37> or you want it and the left bar?
[12:28] <lrylayf37> hmmm
[12:28] <lrylayf37> strange
[12:32] <LordDeath> which package do I have to install if I want to switch from Unity to Gnome Classic?
[12:32] <LordDeath> on 14.04?
[12:33] <btw14> So I installed this new theme, and it turned all terminal windows black
[12:33] <btw14> so I thought to myself, 'that is so racist'
[12:34] <ikonia> then you thought wrong
[12:34] <ikonia> and this channel doesn't care to hear about it
[12:34] <ikonia> if you don't like the theme disable it
[12:34] <philinux> LordDeath;~ install gnome-flashback
[12:34] <philinux> LordDeath;~ then choose the session at login screen
[12:34] <LordDeath> thx
[12:34] <philinux> gnome-session-flashback
[12:35] <marx^> lorddeath: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/04/ubuntu-14-04-classic-gnome-flashback-session
[12:35] <Baako> hi
[12:35] <Baako> i notice when my VPN is connected. I can't use my internet browser
[12:35] <Baako> any ideas why please
[12:35] <philinux> LordDeath;~ ^^^
[12:35] <ikonia> Baako: what are you vpin'ing too ?
[12:35] <marx^> lorddeath: a small article
[12:35] <Baako> '
[12:37] <LordDeath> and the flashback session needs only 50mb of additional packages :)
[12:37] <Baako> ikonia my office network
[12:37] <Baako> i am using ubuntu 13.10 network connections
[12:37] <philinux> LordDeath;~ small indeed
[12:37] <ikonia> Baako: ok, so does your office network need a proxy/authentication to access the web
[12:38] <Baako> in advance i tick use point to point encryption (MPPE)
[12:38] <Baako> ikonia yes
[12:38] <ikonia> Baako: have you configured your browser to use that proxy ?
[12:39] <Baako> ikonia no i haven't.
[12:39] <ikonia> Baako: there is the problem then, you are vpn'd in, which means you are on your office network, all your office network rules apply
[12:39] <Baako> if i do that wouldn't that mean i am broswering the internet usign my office network instead of my own network?
[12:39] <Baako> i see
[12:40] <ikonia> Baako: correct, that's exactly what it means
[12:40] <LordDeath> flashback compiz or flashback metacity?
[12:40] <ikonia> Baako: you have vpn'd into your office -you are on their network, you are part of their network as if you where sat there
[12:41] <LordDeath> ah, metacity if I don't want a 3D desktop
[12:41] <Baako> ikonia so everything i access on my browser will be shown on the records?
[12:41] <nectarys> How do I get the Skype status icon on the main bar of ubuntu?
[12:41] <ikonia> Baako: correct
[12:46] <philinux> LordDeath;~ sounds like you got it sorted?
[12:47] <LordDeath> philinux: yes, it works finde
[12:47] <LordDeath> fine
[12:58] <woky> Hello. I currently don't have Ubuntu. Where can I find Ubuntu source (dep-src) repository for latest release please?
[12:59] <woky> In other words, I'd like to see your `grep deb-src /etc/apt/sources.list` =)
[12:59] <Pici> woky: it is the same as the normal repositories.
[12:59] <woky> I don't have URL for normal either. And I failed to google it.
[13:00] <makara> it depends on your country
[13:00] <makara> deb-src http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty main restricted
[13:00] <lrylayf37> deb-src http://linux.nsu.ru/ubuntu/ saucy main restricted
[13:00] <lrylayf37> deb-src http://linux.nsu.ru/ubuntu/ saucy-updates main restricted
[13:00] <lrylayf37> deb-src http://linux.nsu.ru/ubuntu/ saucy universe
[13:00] <lrylayf37> deb-src http://linux.nsu.ru/ubuntu/ saucy-updates universe
[13:00] <lrylayf37> deb-src http://linux.nsu.ru/ubuntu/ saucy multiverse
[13:00] <lrylayf37> deb-src http://linux.nsu.ru/ubuntu/ saucy-updates multiverse
[13:00] <unopaste> lrylayf37 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[13:00] <woky> thank you guys :3
[13:00] <woky> and s-sorry lrylayf37
[13:01] <Pici> woky: http://bpaste.net/show/3HtawH9fT83i9S2gscTk/
[13:02] <lrylayf37> sry its my first day in irc =[
[13:02] <woky> thank you Pici, lrylayf37
[13:08] <root____3> hello
[13:14] <nashant> I foolishly removed old kernels while I was still booted into one, removing the newest kernel. How do I reinstall it?
[13:14] <nashant> Found it already
[13:14] <nashant> I think
[13:15] <icesherpa24> Good night  My Linux Ubuntu Brothers & Sisters
[13:16] <sanguisdex> since upgrading to 13.10 my network connection has become intermittent (hard connection), what the best way to log data for trouble shooting)
[13:20] <NukeOverflow> hi guys
[13:25] <NukeOverflow> AJ_Z0 are you from brazil?
[13:25] <cyborgcygnus> Anybody know a good bit of software or method for telling my pc to shutdown at a specific time? I tried gshutdown but it doesn't work
[13:26] <cfhowlett> cyborgcygnus cron
[13:26] <Pa^2> Do I need any other kernels except for the one that is running?
[13:27] <Pa^2> Will Ubuntu update just put them back?
[13:27] <cyborgcygnus> cfhowlett, okay cheers I'll try installing that after upgrades.
[13:27] <cfhowlett> Pa^2 update your kernel for the latest/greatest
[13:27] <cfhowlett> cyborgcygnus cron is already there - tis a command
[13:27] <cfhowlett> !info cron
[13:27] <cfhowlett> Pa^2 "put them back"????
[13:28] <Pa^2> Running the latest and greatest ... I just wanted to know if Ubuntu would get upset since it isn't automatically removing old ones.
[13:28] <cfhowlett> Pa^2 sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will get all the latest updates to your ubuntu - including latest kernel
[13:28] <cfhowlett> Pa^2 it's good practice to keep at least ONE old kernel ... just in case.
[13:31] <Pa^2> Thanks
[13:40] <rodney77> hello
[13:40] <rodney77> my text scaling has gone wacky after the most recent round of updates
[13:41] <rodney77> i have a high density screen and had menus and titles scaled up in settings. Then I was prompted to upgrade some packages, rebooted and the text was huge. So I had to downscale everything, making the menu bar tiny and the leading is very short on the submenus.
[13:42] <cyborgcygnus> cfhowlett, Discovered the front end for cron, gnome-schedule, very handy. Just mod it to open with gksudo in front & it will actually work, I tested it/
[13:42] <cfhowlett> cyborgcygnus now, that there is some fine detective work, Lou!
[13:44] <skinux> What does this mean?: update-apt-xapian-index crashed with syntaxerror un unknown(): invalid syntax
[13:52] <Harry_Boss> hi people
[13:57] <Guido1> Has anyone expiriences with the HP ProBook 450 G1 or ThinkPad E540 with (x)ubuntu?
[13:58] <webDev[nodejs]> is the trusty updates repo down? Im apt-get upgrading and I'm getting really slow (as in 0.01kbps) download speeds from http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[13:58] <cyborgcygnus> webDev[nodejs], try another server?
[13:59] <webDev[nodejs]> how do I do that?
[14:00] <cfhowlett> Guido1 no experience but thinkpad's tend to be pretty linux friendly
[14:01] <Guido1> cfhowlett: from one shop in germany i got the replay that they have the expirience of not, but they probaply want to sale windows ...
[14:02] <Guido1> cfhowlett: but i haven't heard anything abouth the hp
[14:04] <XaaT> hi$
[14:05] <XaaT> there is a common issue with PermitRootLogin yes ? i've set it, and restart service, and cannot access root by ssh
[14:05] <cfhowlett> Guido1 HP does have lots of experience with linux and has more than one OEM ubuntu model for sale
[14:07] <Guido1> cfhowlett: so the HP ProBook 450 G1 and ThinkPad E540 are a good choice
[14:08] <cfhowlett> Guido1 personally, I'd prefer the HP but - again - no direct experience with ubuntu on these devices.
[14:09] <madoor> !list
[14:09] <Guido1> cfhowlett: okee, thanks for the indication. can you also give an advice for the coice of an i3 or i5 processor?
[14:09] <madoor> list
[14:09] <hroi> hi
[14:09] <cfhowlett> Guido1 more power.  power GOOD!
[14:09] <cfhowlett> i5 :)
[14:10] <hroi> I need to find the configuration programs on the command line so i can start them in non ubuntu desktop
[14:10] <hroi> this is ubuntu 10.04 btw.
[14:10] <hroi> ohh boy,  really need to start the additional-drivers app inparticular to enable nvidia... not enough just to install the driver on this old ubuntu.
[14:10] <Guido1> cfhowlett: i5 is more expensieve and i heard that it needs more energy so that the battery lests not so long
[14:12] <sanjud> Ubuntu desktop 14.04 LTS, After yesterday update xorg is not working.....
[14:12] <sanjud> I had to reinstall it again
[14:13] <sanjud> Any solution for this kind of crisis?
[14:13] <cfhowlett> Guido1 dell xps 13 developer edition ... take a look
[14:13] <Guido1> cfhowlett: so a diferent laptop
[14:14] <cfhowlett> Guido1 just a suggestion, but it definitely ubuntu friendly
[14:14] <sanjud> I had reinstalled xserver-org but it didnt work
[14:14] <Guido1> cfhowlett: i will have a look
[14:14] <hroi> is it gsettings something... where are the settings programs?
[14:14] <Guido1> thanks
[14:14] <hroi> under /usr/bin?
[14:14] <hroi> so lost here
[14:15] <sanjud> Anybody? Any clue for this?
[14:18] <trp> hey folks
[14:18] <trp> when I run for example grep -r ".test" it returns strings with text as well
[14:18] <trp> how I can make it to return `.test` only
[14:20]  * tcharlss_ en mode homer simpson : «doh!»
[14:20] <bgardner> sanjud: In what way is it not working?  More detail always helps.
[14:20] <sanjud> Sure
[14:20] <charlesburton> trp: what do you mean?  grep is supposed to return a string, do you just want the file or directory name?
[14:21] <trp> yes I want it to return string that matches .test
[14:21] <trp> it includes strings that got test
[14:22] <charlesburton> ah, so you want it to return exactly .test
[14:22] <charlesburton> got it
[14:22] <trp> yep :)
[14:22] <charlesburton> did you try putting an escape in front of the .?
[14:22] <charlesburton> like this?
[14:22] <charlesburton> "\.test"
[14:22] <charlesburton> and try egrep as well
[14:22] <sanjud> First I was unable to get unity after login
[14:22] <charlesburton> it supports regular expressions
[14:23] <sanjud> Bgardener: first I was unable to get unity desktop
[14:24] <charlesburton> you could also try something like this grep -r '^\.test$'
[14:24] <charlesburton> trp: you could also try something like this grep -r '^\.test$'
[14:24] <Nightray> I need some help with installing ubuntu. Could anyone assist me?
[14:24] <cfhowlett> Nightray details...
[14:24] <OerHeks> Nightray, just ask
[14:25] <trp> charlesburton: / helps somewhat but misses some files
[14:25] <trp> ok going to try idea nr 2
[14:25] <sanjud> Bgardener: after installing gnome 3.10 I was unable to get login screen.
[14:40] <bitbandit_> there is a script that calls trim-all in /etc/cron.weekly - it must be this...
[14:40] <Nightray> wilee-nilee: I am chatting from different pc now.
[14:40] <bitbandit_> wilee-nilee, thanks for the link.
[14:40] <Nightray> charlesburton: well. / and /home I think. I have no idea what the other options are
[14:40] <wilee-nilee> Nightray, Cool, you say two partitions is there a boot partition, this is hidden in windows generally?
[14:40] <charlesburton> Nightray, good because that makes sure your files are independent of your distro
[14:40] <Nightray> charlesburton: I know that /swap is needed but I don't know how big it should be
[14:40] <sanjud> Bgardner: second after installing gnome 3.10 unable to get login screen
[14:40] <charlesburton> swap doesn't get mounted
[14:40] <wilee-nilee> bitbandit_, No problem, it gives you a lot to work with, just messing with configs and fstab as suggested,
[14:41] <charlesburton> Nightray, so what you're going to want to do is start the installer and when it gets to the part about partitioning you're going to want the option "manually" or "something else"
[14:41] <charlesburton> I can't remember extactly
[14:41] <charlesburton> in there you're going to find  your 500GB drive
[14:41] <Nightray> wilee-nilee: I have no boot partition as far as I can tell. The isntaller is asking me where to make one
[14:41] <bgardner> sanjud: Gnome 3.10?  I thought you said you just did an update and it died.  What all did you install that resulted in your X issues?
[14:42] <wilee-nilee> charlesburton, If you are not sure, two of are and have been trying to help them. ;)
[14:42] <charlesburton> setup a /boot partition of at least 1GB(ubuntu isn't great about removing old kernels)
[14:42] <charlesburton> a / partition of at least 50GB
[14:42] <charlesburton> and the rest for /home
[14:42] <sanjud> Apt-get install gnome
[14:42] <Nightray> charlesburton: I am on that screen right now. (I am chatting from different device)
[14:43] <sanjud> Bgardner : apt-get install gnome
[14:43] <bitbandit_> wilee-nilee, i think i'll stick with default settings for now...
[14:43] <Nightray> charlesburton: do I need swap?
[14:44] <bgardner> sanjud: Okay, and what do you actually get when you boot?  No X at all?
[14:44] <wilee-nilee> Nightray, there is a limit to the types of partitions so confirm this first, you can make the HD dynamic accidentally and have a really messed up situation that wont run linux.
[14:44] <sanjud> Yes correct
[14:44] <sanjud> Bgardner: yes corect
[14:44] <bgardner> sanjud: So you get a tty?  Can you log in there so we can investigate?
[14:45] <wilee-nilee> charlesburton, Two windows partition plus 3 linux=a dynamic HD
[14:45] <sanjud> Bgardner:  yes I did
[14:45] <charlesburton> No, it doesn't.  It'll make you tag them as extended
[14:45] <charlesburton> there's no such thing as a dynamic HDD
[14:45] <wilee-nilee> charlesburton, Manually you have to make a extendd.
[14:45] <sanjud> Bgardner: Started the gdm,  service gdm restart
[14:46] <charlesburton> msdos partitioning allows for 4 primary partitions
[14:46] <wilee-nilee> charlesburton, Yes there is more than 4 partitions on a msdos is dynamic, if no extended is there, past 3 primaries.
[14:46] <sanjud> Bgardner: output service is running <port>
[14:46] <Nightray> wilee-nilee: How to confirm this?
[14:46] <wilee-nilee> charlesburton, I'm only concerned for the user here.
[14:47] <sanjud> Bgardner: later I tried startx
[14:47] <wilee-nilee> Nightray, I gave you a command to confirm this from the live situation. sudo parted -l
[14:47] <bgardner> sanjud: And what did startx give you?
[14:48] <sanjud> Bgardner: got error unable to proceed /usr/bin/X missing
[14:49] <sanjud> Bgardner: Then I have tried,   apt-get install xserver-xorg-*
[14:49] <wilee-nilee> bitbandit_, Cool, carry on. ;)
[14:50] <sanjud> Bgardner: and restarted gdm
[14:51] <Nightray> charlesburton, wilee-nilee: I will run the installation one more time. Use "try first" and open the chat from the pc I am installing the system. That should be easier to copy and paste resoults of whatever I am doing
[14:51] <bgardner> sanjud: For now, don't worry about gdm so much.  If startx is dying, gdm isn't likely to work any better.  I know you're limited without X, but can you possibly paste the full output from startx?
[14:53] <sanjud> Bgardner: sorry BuDDy as I said I hv reinstalled the OS
[14:54] <charlesburton> wilee-nilee:  Just for clarity you're correct that there is such a thing as a dynamic disk, but that's Microsoft's idea of LVM.  In this case it won't just magically create a dynamic disk.  He does need to mark the 500GB as extended though prior to partitioning anything else
[14:54] <sanjud> Bgardner: I just wanted to know is there was any bug in default updates?
[14:54] <bgardner> sanjud: I'm trying to diagnose a system that doesn't exist anymore?
[14:54] <sanjud> Bgardner: sorry...
[14:55] <bgardner> sanjud: Ah.  Well, I don't know the answer to your question about the updates.  Best of luck.
[14:55] <wilee-nilee> charlesburton, Theoretically it will, however we see people here where the installer fails and makes the disc dynamic, that is my only concern. You seem to know what's up that is great that was my only concern, not to argue. ;)
[14:55] <Nightray> wilee-nilee, charlesburton and I am back
[14:56] <sanjud> Bgardner: thank you for your time, I hope I didnt irrated you with my concernd.
[14:56] <charlesburton> Installer goofiness is definitely a problem sometimes, that I've ran into before
[14:56] <Nightray> wilee-nilee, could you give me this command one more time? Now I can actually use it
[14:56] <bgardner> sanjud: Nope, I'm good.  Just must have misunderstood your issue.  Glad your reinstall got you sorted out.
[14:57] <wilee-nilee> Nightray, Sure sudo parted -l oastebin it and charlesburton is ready to take care of you I think. ;)
[14:57] <wilee-nilee> pastebin*
[14:58] <sanjud> Bgardner: that was my last option after dedicating 2 hours behind it.
[14:59] <wilee-nilee> Nightray, sudo parted -l  the l is a small L
[14:59] <Nightray> wilee-nilee, charlesburton http://pastebin.com/axqyScGq
[15:00] <wilee-nilee> Nightray, Cool, you were right two partitions, I was just concerned we new for sure is all.
[15:00] <wilee-nilee> knew*
[15:01] <charlesburton> So, I'm guessing you're putting Linux on partition 3 of /dev/sdb?
[15:01] <Nightray> yeah. sdb3 becomes linux
[15:03] <wilee-nilee> Nightray, Two on sda, sdb has three, my mistake, carry on you have good help.
[15:03] <daveeejr> i have not been able to re-enable hibernate in the indicator-applet-session menu.  i have modified the policy kit in everyway i can. i am using ubuntu 14.04. pm-hibernate does work from the terminal.  can anyone help with this?
[15:03] <charlesburton> When you get to manual partitioning make all of partition 3 extended
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> daveeejr: what make and model system?
[15:03] <charlesburton> you should be able to right click on it in the box under the little diagram it gives you
[15:03] <daveeejr> ActionParsnip: samsung series 5.
[15:04] <Nightray> charlesburton, you mean Ext4 file system?
[15:04] <charlesburton> No
[15:04] <daveeejr> ActionParsnip: it appeared at one point, but disappeared after an update? or maybe installing something else?
[15:04] <charlesburton> there's an options called wither logical or primary
[15:04] <charlesburton> you want to select logical
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> daveeejr: https://launchpad.net/~voria/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=trusty     may help
[15:04] <Nightray> oh, ok
[15:05] <charlesburton> Sorry, I forgot that they use a different name in the installer
[15:05] <Nightray> but file system should be Ext4 anyway?
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> daveeejr: also be sure you have the latest BIOS
[15:06] <daveeejr> ActionParsnip: doesnt that just affect whether i can hibernate? not whether it shows up in the applet?
[15:06] <ag4ve___2> what's the kernel module to get /proc/config.gz ?
[15:06] <lemon> join #ubuntu-cn
[15:07] <charlesburton> Yes, it's going to be ext4 but make it / and at least 50GB
[15:07] <nashant> Hey, I'm having issues trying to build to v4l drivers. It's complaining about no rule for sit2.o needed by msp3400.o. How do I get it to either fix or ignore this?
[15:07] <charlesburton> this will make it so that you'll have enough to install new programs and whatnot
[15:08] <Nightray> charlesburton, what about swap. Do I need one?
[15:08] <charlesburton> We'll get there
[15:08] <skinux> Is there a better Crash Reporter that allows copying of all crash information?
[15:09] <charlesburton> We'll create swap last, you want that on the outside edge of your disk so that it's the fastest.  How much RAM do you have?
[15:09] <sre-su1> Hi! I'm using Firefox 26.0 on Ubuntu. Recently, I noticed this porblem around bookmarks. Bookmarks > Show All Bookmarks gives an empty window. I cannot find what all bookmarks I created. Is there a way to fix it? I'd like to see the entire list of bookmarks
[15:09] <Nightray> 8gb
[15:09] <Nightray> not much, but does the job ;p
[15:10] <charlesburton> That's plenty!
[15:10] <charlesburton> My laptop has half that and it's my main dev box
[15:10] <ircuser12345> hi all I am having problem with my cursor always blinking on 14.01lts
[15:11] <cfhowlett> sre-su1 currently you HAVE no bookmarks so "show all" shows nothing
[15:11] <charlesburton> So here's where you get to have some fun, create another partition(logical) that uses all of the rest of the drive.  Then subtract 8GB from it, mark it as /home and then create it.
[15:11] <sre-su1> cfhowlett: Currently I've lots of bookmarks. Even did a test bookmark, it didn't show up
[15:11] <Nightray> believe me. It is "just" 8gb. If you saw the configuration of my rig you'd say that 8gb is a blasphemy
[15:11] <charlesburton> Finally select the last bit mark that as swap
[15:12] <cfhowlett> sre-su1 weird.  could it be you're running more than one firefox?  run a terminal:   ps -x|grep firefox          then kill -9 each instance.  restart firefox and try again
[15:12] <charlesburton> Then take a screen shot and put that on pastbin
[15:12] <charlesburton> want to see what it looks like before you commit to anything
[15:12] <ircuser12345> ??
[15:13] <daveeejr> i have not been able to re-enable hibernate in the indicator-applet-session menu. i have modified the policy kit in everyway i can. i am using ubuntu 14.04. pm-hibernate does work from the terminal. can anyone help with this?
[15:13] <ircuser12345> cursor problem on 14.01
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> !patience | ircuser12345
[15:13] <cfhowlett> !patience|ircuser12345
[15:13] <Nightray> charlesburton, where do I find device manager on linux?
[15:13] <ircuser12345> thankyou
[15:13] <sre-su1> cfhowlett: I usually have two windows of firefox open, yes. How is that connected?
[15:13] <charlesburton> System Settings
[15:14] <ez1> looking for a good laptop
[15:14] <charlesburton> just type that in the unity bar or click the little gear icon in the top right side of the screen
[15:14] <ez1> of about 1000 eur
[15:14] <ez1> any advice?
[15:14] <Blueskyder> hello
[15:14] <cfhowlett> sre-su1 no need for more than one instance and way less confusing to your system ...
[15:15] <skinux> Where do we find out exactly what information is transmitted when we submit a crash or problem report?
[15:15] <sre-su1> cfhowlett: One active, other a private window
[15:16] <sre-su1> cfhowlett: Once either of the windows bookmarks a page, it will go to a common storage. I don't undersnta how having multiple windows of firefox open affect bookmarks
[15:16] <sre-su1> understand*
[15:17] <cfhowlett> sre-su1 I've already given my best suggestion ... someone else may know more
[15:17] <OerHeks> !hcl | ez1, look here for certifies machines, e don't help finding the right price, join #ubuntu-offtopic for that, or ##hardware
[15:17] <OerHeks> c/e/we
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> sre-su1: why not use firefox 29 updated?
[15:18] <Nightray> charlesburton, how do I upload images to pastebin?
[15:18] <lotuspsychje> Nightray: tinypic
[15:19] <charlesburton> sorry, use imagebin
[15:19] <cfhowlett> Nightray or dropbox
[15:19] <charlesburton> or dropbox
[15:20] <OerHeks> imagebin is vulnerable
[15:20] <alcides> guys, is that possible to force the connection only through vpn? if the vpn is down so... no access?
[15:20] <Nightray> charlesburton, http://oi60.tinypic.com/2lbbzuf.jpg
[15:21] <charlesburton> Lol, I need the picture of your partitioning layout
[15:21] <Moony22> hey
[15:21] <Moony22> I'm quite scared
[15:21] <charlesburton> Nice machine though.
[15:21] <Moony22> I just think I made a messup
[15:21] <Moony22> of a command
[15:22] <Moony22> I just typed dd if=(iso file here)
[15:22] <Nightray> charlesburton, that's why I am telling you that 8gb is a blasphemy here :D
[15:22] <Moony22> and then a lot of info came up
[15:22] <Moony22> I forgot to put the of=
[15:22] <Moony22> What will happen?
[15:22] <OerHeks> Moony22, easy on the enter
[15:23] <charlesburton> yeah, it kinda is
[15:23] <OerHeks> Moony22, we don't know as we don't know the exact command you used
[15:23] <Moony22> OerHeks: I'll try to next time, but what will happen to my computer? If you want the exact command:
[15:23] <andybrine> im wondering if anyone can help. Im running virtualbox with windows xp on and im unable to see my phone via usb. Does anyone know why that is and how i can fix that?
[15:23] <skinux> Looking for help figuring out this application crash: http://pastebin.com/RPKVxnpd
[15:23] <Moony22> dd if=~/Downloads/Kali-linux.iso
[15:24] <OerHeks> Moony22, nothing, as you didn t specify a target.
[15:24] <Moony22> OerHeks: a lot of things came up
[15:24] <cfhowlett> Moony22 also, sadly, kali is not supported here
[15:24] <alcides> guys, is that possible to force the connection only through vpn? if the vpn is down so... no access?
[15:24] <Moony22> cfhowlett: I wasn't asking about kali
[15:24] <Moony22> I was just asking about what the command will do
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> !vpn | alcides
[15:24] <Moony22> in ubuntu
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> Moony22: if you wanna create a boot cd for another Os try unetbootin
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> Moony22: boot usb sorry
[15:26] <mgw> What work well with Ubuntu? I'm looking at the Asus Zenbooks, but wonder if something else might be a better option.
[15:26] <Moony22> lotuspsychje: yeah, I did but it's not really working for me
[15:26] <mgw> ultrabooks
[15:26] <Moony22> I'm pretty sure dd works but it's just that I forgot to add the of= bit
[15:26] <alcides> lotuspsychje no help at all... it is obsolete... Ubuntu 10.04 comes preinstalled with VPN support. what is also true for 14.04, I have it configurated, but when my vpn is down it start to access directly
[15:26] <cfhowlett> mgw dell xps 13 developer edition works 100%
[15:27] <skinux> How do we remove applications that have dpkg errors for remove and purge commands?
[15:27] <MaxFrames> hello
[15:27] <mgw> cfhowlett: thanks, looking at that
[15:27] <MaxFrames> can I forward the whole window manager to windows (xming)? or just single applications?
[15:28] <MaxFrames> the idea is to use x11 forwarding as a replacement for vnc
[15:28] <MaxFrames> so, to actually use the remote linux machine's gui remotely
[15:28] <charlesburton> Nightray, you still there?
[15:28] <potato_farmer> You need something like vnc or nomachine to see the entire desktop.
[15:28] <mgw> cfhowlett: do you know if someone sells without windows installed?
[15:29] <mgw> seems silly to pay for a windows license
[15:29] <potato_farmer> And both are significantly faster than X11 forwarding
[15:29] <cfhowlett> mgw dell xps13 has no windows
[15:29] <Nightray> charlesburton, sorry, phone
[15:29] <Nightray> charlesburton, http://oi61.tinypic.com/20i73nq.jpg
[15:29] <MaxFrames> potato_farmer: my experience with vnc performance has been tragic, hence the quest for alternatives
[15:30] <charlesburton> That looks good man
[15:30] <charlesburton> or gal
[15:30] <maddawg3> you def dont want to do x11 forwarding
[15:30] <charlesburton> and you should be good to go
[15:30] <JonnyDamnnox> hey JO
[15:30] <maddawg3> if vnc performance is bad the x11 is gonna be even worse
[15:30] <Nightray> charlesburton, One thing though: Device for boot loader installation should be changed to /dev/sdb5 right?
[15:30] <JonnyDamnnox> I want to go jogging, should I wear white socks with my black shoes??? I'm not sure :-(
[15:30] <charlesburton> No
[15:30] <maddawg3> MaxFrames, how much bandwidth do you have?
[15:30] <MaxFrames> well, it is fast instead, for single applications
[15:31] <compdoc> xrdp
[15:31] <charlesburton> the bootloader should be installed on either just /dev/sda or /dev/sdb
[15:31] <MaxFrames> maddawg3: 100 Mbps LAN
[15:31] <maddawg3> MaxFrames, in what way is it faster?
[15:31] <Nightray> oh, okay
[15:31] <charlesburton> Whichever one you boot from
[15:31] <maddawg3> 100Mbps should be plenty for VNC... what issues are you having?
[15:31] <Nightray> okay
[15:31] <charlesburton> The reason is that the bootloader lives outside your partitioning
[15:31] <MaxFrames> every which way you can think of. vnc is just unusable, sluggish, almost a slideshow, it's hard to even point and click
[15:32] <MaxFrames> clearly bandwidth is not the culprit
[15:32] <maddawg3> maybe it's problem with the driver vnc uses
[15:32] <MaxFrames> it's vnc from windows (client) to ubuntu (server)
[15:32] <MaxFrames> tried different clients, no joy
[15:32] <maddawg3> ubuntu server?
[15:33] <MaxFrames> ubuntu desktop, lubuntu 14.04 to be precise
[15:33] <maddawg3> oh you mean the server is on ubuntu
[15:33] <maddawg3> so your connecting from winblows to ubuntu
[15:33] <wilee-nilee> JonnyDamnnox, Purple socks if you got'm. ;)
[15:33] <MaxFrames> I mean ubuntu is running the vnc server
[15:33] <maddawg3> i mean windows
[15:33] <maddawg3> excuse me
[15:33] <RaJiL> hi
[15:33] <maddawg3> on a 100mbps you dont really need VNC compression
[15:34] <maddawg3> if you disable that it will probably be faster
[15:34] <Nightray> charlesburton, should I encrypt home?
[15:34] <charlesburton> that's up to you
[15:34] <RaJiL> i upgrade to 14.04 but config changed not saved
[15:34] <JonnyDamnnox> ???
[15:34] <MaxFrames> believe me, I've tried every little setting. vnc is not cutting it. I need a replacement method
[15:34] <charlesburton> if you do you'll take a performance hit
[15:34] <charlesburton> but your data will be safe
[15:34] <charlesburton> if you're not worried about someone stealing your computer I wouldn't worry overly muich
[15:34] <maddawg3> well i use VNC on all my linux boxes and it's near seamless so something is clearly wrong with how you have it set up
[15:35] <maddawg3> alternatives probably wont cut it either
[15:35] <wilee-nilee> RaJiL, Can you detail that more closely? Is what you are seeing in the upgrade or at the end of it before e reboot?
[15:35] <maddawg3> since they are mostly all based on similar technology
[15:35] <wilee-nilee> a*
[15:35] <maddawg3> and X11 forwarding is significantly slower than VNC
[15:35] <maddawg3> by ALOT
[15:36] <maddawg3> thats why peopl;e use things like vnc or rdp
[15:36] <MaxFrames> so what's a fast and secure way to remote desktop from windows to linux bar vnc?
[15:36]  * grobe0ba is running xchat on a headless vps, x11 forwarded to a windows amazon ec2 instance, which he rdp'd to from work
[15:36] <grobe0ba> it's a ludicrous chain of crap
[15:36] <grobe0ba> but it works :D
[15:37] <wilee-nilee> !tmi | grobe0ba
[15:37] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[15:37] <grobe0ba> ubottu, well, i'm bored. i figured i'd share
[15:38] <grobe0ba> oh, great
[15:38] <grobe0ba> that's why i bloody hate talking bots
[15:38] <wilee-nilee> grobe0ba, This is support is all, that just clutters the channel. ;) as you are still doing.
[15:38] <lotuspsychje> !vnc | MaxFrames
[15:38] <grobe0ba> rgr
[15:39] <wilee-nilee> grobe0ba, You can share openly at #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:39] <RaJiL> wilee-nilee, I updated from version 13.10 to 14.04 but some things were not right, such as the keyboard language, now if I change to Spanish, restarting me still set to English
[15:40] <grobe0ba> wilee-nilee, defeats the purpose. just pretend i'm not here. i'll help if i see something interesting later
[15:40] <MaxFrames> lotuspsychje: you may not have read the bit where I said that I have a bucketload of bandwidth and vnc is unusably sluggish
[15:40] <wilee-nilee> RaJiL, Is that the only issue, not one I'm real sure on is all.
[15:41] <yakiza> Hello i am new on ubuntu   where i can find
[15:41] <yakiza>  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/nvidia
[15:41] <yakiza>  the first system/administ....
[15:41] <wilee-nilee> grobe0ba, The purpose here is support period. I'm just the to happen to point this out, if you continue others will pile on. ;)
[15:41] <kyometal> hi
[15:41] <mgw> cfhowlett: where do you recommend buying the xps 13 developer?
[15:41] <mgw> And have you upgraded to 14.04?
[15:41] <cfhowlett> mgw I'd buy it directly from Dell ...
[15:41] <niel> yakiza, you are a sys admin?
[15:41] <mgw> It comes with 12.04
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> mgw: alot of machines will run 14.04 even when not all show in certified list
[15:42] <cfhowlett> mgw yeah, I asked the project lead about that ... 12.04 is LTS so is supported through 2017.
[15:42] <OerHeks> yakiza, type driver in dash and the restricted driver tool shows up
[15:42] <mgw> cfhowlett: right, but I'd like to install 14.04
[15:42] <cfhowlett> mgw easily done ...
[15:43] <mgw> I know it's easy…. as long as there're no compatibility issues
[15:43] <cfhowlett> mgw BUT you'd have to manually install the sputnik packages if you needed them
[15:43] <MaxFrames> as for freenx, I read it's abandoned.
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> mgw: another great way is to buy laptop and put ssd inside yourself and install 14.04 on it
[15:43] <mgw> lotuspsychje: which laptop?
[15:44] <kyometal> mgw im in Xubuntu 14.04 and works great
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> mgw: i have acer apsire netbook plugged in samsung evo 120gig ssd, and put 14.04 64bit inside, rocketfast
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> mgw: as i said, many laptops will run trusty fine
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> mgw: i formatted those recently: lenovo, hp, dell acer
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> cfhowlett: could awk the output of ps and kill the PID ;)
[15:47] <mgw> kyometal: which laptop are you running 14.04 on?
[15:47] <kyometal> in a fujitsu a530
[15:47] <cfhowlett> ActionParsnip eh - whut?  you mean for that firefox issue?
[15:47] <kyometal> 64 bits xubuntu version
[15:47] <mgw> is anybody running trusty on a zenbook?
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> mgw: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AsusZenbook
[15:49] <mgw> lotuspsychje, isn't that the old edition?
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> mgw: wich type are you looking for exactly>
[15:49] <MaxFrames> I installed x2go which seems to be the current alternative to freenx
[15:49] <MaxFrames> do you know how to start the server?
[15:49] <MaxFrames> or daemon?
[15:50] <lotuspsychje> MaxFrames: can ssh not please your needs?
[15:50] <MaxFrames> no.
[15:50] <mgw> lotuspsychje: I'm looking at the the UX301s, I see the page on the 302s
[15:50] <mgw> but I can't find any 302s for sale
[15:50] <lotuspsychje> MaxFrames: i know its not reccomended for safety here, but teamviewer remote controls aswell
[15:51] <mgw> oh, i think it's just the color 301 vs 302
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> mgw: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AsusZenbookUX302
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> mgw: depends on the type really if you gonna have bugs or not
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> mgw: but many things can be solved also
[16:04] <Guest17831> hi
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> charlesburton: what is the system for? if you have 8Gb RAM you may get away with no swap :)
[16:08] <charlesburton> It's actually for someone else, I don't know their workload so I'm having them add swap just in case
[16:09] <charlesburton> I doubt they'll use it, but better safe than sorry
[16:09] <gdt1> 8 gb ram... I have only 2gb :(
[16:11] <charlesburton> 2GB isn't anything to be sad about, unless you have an  intense workload that should be fine for normal usage
[16:12] <denark> hello. when i first installed the newest ubuntu 14, i mispelled my username. how can i change this?
[16:13] <denark> i spelt it as "denark" its supposed to be "denmark" lol
[16:13] <jpedroza2k> I am on 14.04LTS and Chrome is constantly crashing. Dmesg shows the dreaded [drm] stuck on render ring. Forcing Chrome to quit and restarting it works for a while, but this is really annoying. Intel graphics on a core i5 Lenovo laptop.
[16:14] <charlesburton> denark, you'll have to modify the /etc/passwd file as root
[16:14] <trijntje> charlesburton, will that update all file and folder ownership as well?
[16:14] <charlesburton> yes
[16:15] <charlesburton> Folder and file ownership is by UID
[16:15] <trijntje> what about /home/denark?
[16:15] <charlesburton> so as long as you don't change the UID of the user you can change the name all you like
[16:15] <denark> charlesburton: so that is all i do?
[16:15] <charlesburton> ah, you're right there
[16:15] <denark> right. im worried about /home/denark as well
[16:15] <charlesburton> although, the home directory is specified in the /etc/passwd
[16:16] <denark> why dont we have a "change username button" ? lol
[16:16] <trijntje> and I'm also worried about doing that with encrypted home :P
[16:16] <denark> :P home is not encrypted
[16:16] <genii> denark: Simpler:  sudo usermod --home /home/denmark-m --login denmark denark
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: have you been able to fix your dash applications freeze?
[16:16] <charlesburton> genii is right
[16:16] <charlesburton> I do things old school
[16:17] <irreverant> can you guys direct printer questions to ##printers
[16:17] <charlesburton> should probably go trim my neckbeard and tighten my suspenders
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> jpedroza2k: have you tested RAM using Memtest86 from Grub?
[16:18] <jpedroza2k> ActionParsnip, I have. This seems to be a known bug in the intel i915 drivers going back as far as 12.04.
[16:18] <trijntje> lotuspsychje, no, it still occurs after reboot, but only once
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> jpedroza2k: tried a non-compoziting session, like xfce or lxde?
[16:19] <shyang> hello
[16:20] <jpedroza2k> ActionParsnip, I have not. That is a good idea.
[16:20] <genquinta> ciao
[16:20] <genquinta> !list
[16:22] <jpedroza2k> ActionParsnip, could I also just turn off the 3d elements of Unity to achieve the same thing?
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> jpedroza2k: Unity is a plugin for Compiz, so you'll still be runningthe WM
[16:27] <michaelaguiar> So I have a vm with Ubuntu 14.04.  Every once and a while when I try to login to phpmyadmin, as soon as I login, there is a red block, and it tells me my session expired, and logs me back out
[16:27] <michaelaguiar> anyone know why?
[16:28] <pksadiq> Xb
[16:31] <garheade> michaelaguiar, first thing i would check is the system clocks.
[16:32] <garheade> are you accessing phpmyadmin from the vm or from another machine and where is the phpmyadmin being hosted? guest, host or remote?
[16:33] <michaelaguiar> I am accessing from my local machine.  and it’s being hosted on the vm host
[16:33] <michaelaguiar> hang on maybe it’s the config I never setup
[16:33] <YatharthROCK> I wanted to lookup what letters like 's', 'm' and 'y' meant in context of Perl expressions like 's///', 'm//' and 'y///'; but my Google-fu didn't work.
[16:33] <YatharthROCK> I wanted to lookup what letters like 's', 'm' and 'y' meant in context of Perl expressions like 's///', 'm//' and 'y///'; but my Google-fu didn't work.
[16:34] <YatharthROCK> What can I search for for more info on them?
[16:34] <YatharthROCK> I know s stands for substitution and m for simply matching. I think you could add a 'g'/'i' to make them case-insensitive.
[16:34] <yakiza> hey guys i want
[16:34] <yakiza>  to install
[16:34] <yakiza> drivers for my graphic card
[16:35] <yakiza>  nvidia
[16:35] <yakiza> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[16:35] <yakiza> should i do anythink from here
[16:35] <yakiza>  cause i am newbie on ubuntu
[16:35] <wilee-nilee> YatharthROCK, Try man perl in the cli
[16:35] <wilee-nilee> yakiza, Try less use of the enter key, and name the card to the channel.
[16:36] <yakiza>  my graphic card  that i want to avtivate is gigabyte nvidia geforce gt630 2gb
[16:36] <akshay2000>  
[16:37] <wilee-nilee> yakiza, Not an area I can help with more that asking if you checked the additional drivers tab in the software and updates tab.
[16:38] <wilee-nilee> than*
[16:38] <yakiza> i already check i think my pc is not reading the card how can  i make the pc read it
[16:39] <wilee-nilee> yakiza, Are you sure the drivers are not installed already? Hows it running and looking?
[16:39] <samthewildone> do I have to install a 64 bit edition on a 64 bit cpu ?
[16:39] <wilee-nilee> samthewildone, nope
[16:39] <genii> Probably should just run jockey and let it suggest a driver.
[16:39] <jaspertheghost> can someone help me figure out how to properly escape this code for a bash shell script… works fine if i echo find ../ and copy and paste into terminal
[16:39] <jaspertheghost> http://pastebin.com/6x0ztQG7
[16:40] <yakiza>  i am really new on ubuntu    when i put the cable on the new graphic card   vga i dont have  image on my screen
[16:40] <michaelaguiar> ok so in my phpmyadmin config, I have a line that checks_file_access, then requires /var/lib/phpmyadmin/blowfish_secret.inc.php  — but my admin says I need the secret.  Does this mean I have incorrect access?
[16:41] <samthewildone> wilee-nilee, even if I have 16gb
[16:41] <wilee-nilee> samthewildone, 32 bit runs on a 64 bit platform, the pae kernels read all the memory.
[16:41] <samthewildone> reason for me asking is trying to get java in chrome is nearly impossible
[16:42] <samthewildone> Seems like this is a common problem through the world of linux & java with 64 bit arch.
[16:42] <samthewildone> All I need is to put a simple web plugin in chrome and its impossible.
[16:42] <wilee-nilee> samthewildone, I don;t use chrome, I would address that issue here, rather than a bit change.
[16:43] <samthewildone> Need to able to launch java files within chrome.
[16:43] <OerHeks> samthewildone, openJDK works fine in chrome.
[16:43] <samthewildone> wilee-nilee, I grew up using Mozilla, then Firefox then for the past 4 years chrome has been my weapon of choice.
[16:43] <samthewildone> OerHeks, I used it but, still no luck
[16:43] <michaelaguiar> What are the correct file permissions for /var/lib/phpmyadmin/blowfish_secret.inc.php
[16:44] <wilee-nilee> samthewildone, I have no problem with it, it is installed, just rarely use it is all.
[16:47] <nico103> hi
[16:47] <YatharthROCK> wilee-nilee: Thanks.
[16:47] <nico103> I created a new VM yesterday, but I screwed up: I made its disk too small, and I enabled lvm and encryption
[16:47] <nico103> would it be easier to correct this by re-installing?
[16:48] <nico103> or is there a simple and reliable way to move everything to a new disk?
[16:48] <nico103> (then reboot into it and drop the lv)
[16:50] <wilee-nilee> YatharthROCK, No problem, I hoped that would at the least help.
[16:52] <ary_wibowo> test
[16:52] <SonikkuAmerica> ary_wibowo: You failed. :D
[16:52] <ary_wibowo> hehe
[16:52] <ary_wibowo> nothing
[16:53] <chj> -  -
[16:53] <ary_wibowo> just test
[17:01] <grimeton> how bad can it get? [9714671.512766] CPU: 1 PID: 2937 Comm: dpkg Tainted: G    B D      3.13.0-29-generic #53-Ubuntu
[17:02] <NGC982> Evening.
[17:02] <NGC982> I'm trying to get information trough applications running in a screen, from outside the screen.
[17:02] <NGC982> I found out about the "stuff" command, and i tried this: "screen -x irc -X stuff "$1^M""
[17:03] <NGC982> It works, but it does not seem to simulate "enter" properly.
[17:03] <grimeton> NGC982: use tmux
[17:03] <grimeton> NGC982: and look into expect if you want to script output of other commands
[17:04] <NGC982> The $1 thing is not relevant. It might just as well be text.
[17:04] <NGC982> Allright, ill try it.
[17:04] <NGC982> Does Tmux support the same syntax?
[17:04] <grimeton> you're trying to connect to the same screen session again, don't you?
[17:04] <grimeton> tmux has the easier syntax
[17:05] <grimeton> if screen is the truth, then tmux is the light
[17:05] <NGC982> Oh, yes.
[17:07] <akshay2000> exit
[17:12] <samthewildone> still no progress
[17:13] <samthewildone> java is installed but not web support
[17:13] <samthewildone> http://pastebin.com/3iWG7SnU
[17:13] <samthewildone> it is installed but cannot get it to open java web pages
[17:14] <samthewildone> also I followed this guide http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Oracle-Java-JRE-on-Ubuntu-Linux
[17:14] <trism> samthewildone: you cannot use java with chrome/chromium anymore, npapi plugins are disabled
[17:15] <samthewildone> well how do i enable it ?
[17:15] <trism> samthewildone: you can't, you have to use firefox or some other browser
[17:15] <samthewildone> fuck this... back to windows
[17:16] <NGC982> grimeton: This seems to be way over my level.
[17:17] <grimeton> NGC982: ?
[17:17] <grimeton> the hotkeys of tmux are the same, they all begin with C-b instead of C-a
[17:17] <grimeton> but tmux is scriptable
[17:17] <NGC982> I barely know how to split the window. ;-)
[17:17] <NGC982> But yeah, ill look into it
[17:18] <grimeton> C-b %
[17:19] <jaspertheghost> can someone help me figure out how to properly escape this code for a bash shell script… works fine if i echo find ../ and copy and paste into terminal  : http://pastebin.com/6x0ztQG7
[17:19] <ukesh> hey
[17:20] <genii> jaspertheghost: You might have better luck in #bash channel
[17:22] <z23891> sup
[17:25] <nashant> how do I run a make against a different kernel?
[17:26] <dirtydaw2> hello all
[17:28] <dirtydaw2> can anyone help me with a live boot question ?
[17:28] <NGC982> grimeton: I cannot seem to find any documentation on simply using tmux for sending to screen stdin. And since you write "scriptable" i assume i need to modify tmux for my uses.
[17:29] <grimeton> NGC982: you have to drop screen and use only tmux
[17:29] <grimeton> and then read the tmux manual page
[17:30] <dirtydaw2> how do you boot up the gui for ubuntu from termial? command i require please
[17:30] <wheatthin> dirtydaw2, which ubuntu version do you have installed?
[17:31] <wheatthin> dirtydaw2, for regular ubuntu with unity,   sudo service lightdm start
[17:32] <NGC982> grimeton: Simply using a hotkey does not help me.
[17:32] <grimeton> NGC982: maybe i don't understand what you're trying todo
[17:33] <NGC982> My intentions are to be able to send commands into anything that is running inside a screen, with command line.
[17:33] <NGC982> I will for instance execute commands and write stuff on IRC via Tasker profiles (on an Android device that can send SSH commands).
[17:34] <NGC982> I have already solved the SSH command part, and the "send to screen" part (with the function i first stated as "stuff"). Although, i cannot get it to simulate enter properly.
[17:34] <grimeton> NGC982: tmux send-keys -t your-serssion here -l somethingsomething
[17:35] <NGC982> I thought so, i just read about keys but was a bit fuzzy on what a "key" was.
[17:35] <NGC982> Let's try it.
[17:40] <NGC982> Hm, it does not seem to know what -l is.
[17:40] <NGC982> Isn't it simply easier to just solve the ^M issue with screen?
[17:41] <grimeton> NGC982: yeah, but i can't help you with that
[17:41] <grimeton> what tmux version are you running?
[17:42] <NGC982> How do i find out? -v doesn't seem to do anything.
[17:42] <grimeton> just tried
[17:42] <grimeton> works perfect
[17:42] <NGC982> Aight.
[17:42] <marx^> installing 14.04 currently, resized ntfs partition and now i'm creating ext4 partition so do i make it primary or logical ?
[17:42] <grimeton> NGC982: tmux -V
[17:42] <NGC982> ah
[17:42] <NGC982> 1.6.
[17:42] <grimeton> NGC982: i'm running 1.9
[17:43] <grimeton> -l does disable special key lookups
[17:43] <NGC982> Oh, let's start by updating then. :-)
[17:43] <grimeton> leave it away
[17:43] <grimeton> special key lookups turns e.g. "Enter" into the \n you need
[17:43] <grimeton> so you do something like this: tmux send-keys -t 0 -l ls && tmux send-keys -t 0 Enter
[17:43] <whoever> hi all, dos 14.04 support trimming(ssd) for do i need to cron it ? because if I enable discard in fstab  it will unessisaryly r/w the drive each deletion no matter how small
[17:43] <marx^> what is the difference between logical and primary partition ?
[17:44] <NGC982> grimeton: I see.
[17:44] <grimeton> marx^: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning
[17:44] <whoever> marx^: www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCAQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linuxquestions.org%2Fquestions%2Flinux-software-2%2Fprimary-or-logical-partition-7582%2F&ei=-_2RU8nhOIqVqAaIy4H4BQ&usg=AFQjCNE1Yxhbpdbk4EX0w4tAC-Wq5AdFxg&bvm=bv.68445247,d.b2k
[17:45] <marx^> grimeton: i got only irssi now on my terminal-machine and so browsing is quite difficult
[17:45] <jcstarken> dlna or what ever is the best for 12.04 so I can see it on my vizo tv thank you
[17:45] <marx^> grimeton: it would be third partition
[17:45] <grimeton> jcstarken: marx^ i'm not going to explain this to you
[17:45] <grimeton> install lynx and read it
[17:46] <marx^> i'm gonna just go with logical
[17:47] <grimeton> jcstarken: look into avahi and stuff
[17:47] <whoever> grimeton: one is a partition , the other is a partition with in a partition
[17:48] <whoever> grimeton: soory
[17:48] <whoever> marx^: one is a partition , the other is a partition with in a partition
[17:48] <NGC982> grimeton: I cannot seem to find the -t flag in the man file. Is that the PID of the screen session?
[17:48] <grimeton> NGC982: it's the session's id or name, tmux ls
[17:48] <NGC982> I'm having issues getting the C-b commands to work, but i think that i a local problem.
[17:48] <NSA_LA_POLISSE> Coucou tous le monde
[17:48] <NGC982> grimeton: Aight.
[17:48] <grimeton> NGC982: C-b usually is ctrl-b
[17:49] <NGC982> "failed to connect to server: Connection refused" on ls. :>
[17:49] <NGC982> Yes, i know.
[17:49] <grimeton> NGC982: is a server running?
[17:49] <NGC982> Doesn't seem so.
[17:49] <NGC982> :D
[17:49] <NSA_LA_POLISSE> you like windows serveur 2012 ?
[17:49] <grimeton> yeah and if, maybe you need to restart it as 1.9 instead of using an old 1.6
[17:49] <NSA_LA_POLISSE> i think is the best system serveur i had ever seen
[17:50] <NSA_LA_POLISSE> nobody ?
[17:50] <bazhang> NSA_LA_POLISSE, offtopic here
[17:51] <NSA_LA_POLISSE> :)
[17:51] <jcstarken> is there an ubuntu channel for dummies
[17:52] <grimeton> jcstarken: welcome to the club
[17:52] <Schnabeltierchen> hrhrhr ^^
[17:52] <jcstarken> grimeton: thank you for your responses
[17:53] <NGC982> grimeton: I got the server stuff working.
[17:54] <grimeton> NGC982: awesome
[17:54] <grimeton> NGC982: if you don't use -l you can do this: tmux send-keys -t 0 ls Enter
[17:55] <dirtydaw1> hello again sorry for dc using version 12.10 whats the command to load up the gui from terminal
[17:56] <grimeton> dirtydaw1: startx (if installed)
[17:57] <grimeton> dirtydaw1: or fire up lightdm
[17:57] <hakermania> Hey ubuntuers! Care to do some bug testing for Wallch? Get these Debs and hunt for bugs :D http://paste.ubuntu.com/7603171/
[17:57] <grimeton> dirtydaw1: service lightdm start
[17:57] <dirtydaw1> tyvm
[17:58] <NGC982> grimeton: -l is not recogniced, and running it without it sends the correct text, echo's it (as it should) but -also- tries to execute it as a command.
[17:58] <NGC982> oh wait
[17:58] <NGC982> No
[17:58] <NGC982> Sorry.
[17:58] <NGC982> It's absolutely right.
[17:58] <NGC982> :D
[17:58] <grimeton> NGC982: yeah, that's what happens if you send stuff to stdin of a program
[17:59] <NGC982> Well, let's see if this works then. My irssi client is open in tmux "0" window. Let's open up putty and execute it.
[17:59]  * NGC982 tries.
[17:59] <grimeton> tmux is not loop safe
[17:59] <grimeton> so beware
[18:00] <nico103> neither is (was) getty
[18:00] <nico103> ;)
[18:02] <quadHelix> Anybody experienced Spotify "losing" the menu bar icons in 14.04?
[18:02] <michaelaguiar> So for some reason, I can’t import anything via phpmyadmin
[18:02] <NGC982> Hello!
[18:02] <quadHelix> I am using cairo-dock
[18:02] <NGC982> EurekaItworks!
[18:02] <michaelaguiar> the import file is as small as it can be, 1 table with no data, and 2 fields to test
[18:02] <grimeton> NGC982: see, tmux, 15 minutes, working
[18:03] <michaelaguiar> still get the file size exceeded error
[18:03] <grimeton> NGC982: that's the force luke, that's the force
[18:03] <NGC982> grimeton: Thanks a bunch.
[18:03] <NGC982> grimeton: Though, how do i make more than one word? "" doesn't seem to be accepted.
[18:03] <NGC982> "kruger@kruger:~$ tmux send-keys -t 0 "Eureka It works!" Enter"
[18:03] <grimeton> NGC982: the problem is the !
[18:03] <grimeton> it's interpreted by the shell
[18:05] <NGC982> Ah, i see. Can any given line of text be achieved in some way?
[18:05] <grimeton> NGC982: tmux send-keys -t 0 echo Eureka\ it\ works\ \! Enter
[18:05] <grimeton> eeer missed the \ after echo
[18:05] <grimeton> NGC982: tmux send-keys -t 0 echo\ Eureka\ it\ works\ \! Enter
[18:05] <grimeton> but none after the !
[18:05] <NGC982> And the contents of a text file?
[18:06] <NGC982> That would actually be easier, if possible.
[18:06] <grimeton> NGC982: seriously? I'd get the pid of the process and then use the processes FD
[18:06] <grimeton> NGC982: cat /dev/urandom > /proc/$PID/fd/0
[18:12] <jdsdsa> hello my friends
[18:13] <Armag3dd0n24> ^ /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:13] <stilly> Hi guys, I have a problem with the re-aut. of the wappsk encrypt of my modem. My connection drops every 15 min. I'd like to know if I change the beacon time (increase) it'll do it with a larger time interval?
[18:15] <stilly> Hi guys, I have a problem with the re-aut. of the wappsk encrypt of my modem. My connection drops every 15 min. I'd like to know if I change the beacon time (increase) it'll do it with a larger time interval?
[18:20] <whoever> need some help, I have smartctl running  and my .cf says it should be running every day and and every weekend but do not see anything in my logs before 7AM (it should be running at 2 and 3AM )
 i need to make a script that outputs a directory listing to a text file
 this is what i have so far
 echo -e "Which directory?"
 read word1
 echo "Which folder?"
 read word2
 echo "Output file name?"
[18:20] <unopaste> jdsdsa you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[18:23] <scrubfest> Hey guys, I uninstalled my window 7, to solo ubuntu. Now I can't boot due to a missing bootmgr. I have booted ubuntu through a usb-stick and ran the boot-repair tool... unsuccessfully -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7602960/ . Anyone got tips as to what my next course of action is?
[18:30] <whoever> and I am not using -.
[18:30] <whoever> *-q
[18:30] <ZAKhan> i cannot find how to change sound from stereo to 5.1 , can someone help me out please
[18:31] <whoever> ZAKhan: settings > audio
[18:32] <mistawright> hi guys i need some help. i am running into an issue where on my ubuntu servers I have them forwarding logs to a graylog2 server. on the server forwarding logs they are not being saved even though rsyslog is set to log locally as well as remotely
[18:32] <ZAKhan> it only shows 2 channels
[18:33] <whoever>  DEVICESCAN -s (S/../.././02|L/../../6/03) -W 4,35,40 -m<email>M exec /usr/share/smartmontools/smartd-runner
[18:33] <whoever> ^^ that is my line in /etc/smtd.conf
[18:33] <whoever> can someone assist
[18:35] <whoever> need some help wiht smartctl .cfg
[18:36] <fellayaboy> hey it seems when i reboot ubuntu 14.04 desktop that my iptables settings dont get saved.  if i input the commands again my iptables work fine. but it happens all the time when i reboot
[18:37] <charlesburton> You have to run iptables-save to write them out
[18:37] <charlesburton> if you put iptables rules in manually they're only memory resident
[18:37] <fellayaboy> wow. and this will restore automatically
[18:38] <fellayaboy> oh that makes sense. how do i restore them automatically during reboot.
[18:38] <charlesburton> it'll do it on it's own
[18:38] <charlesburton> you just have to run the save command so they're saved in the configuration file
[18:38] <tuhin> how can i make a partition in ububtu
[18:38] <charlesburton> that's read at boot
[18:38] <tuhin> plz help
[18:39] <fellayaboy> how do i delete iptables configuration then
[18:39] <tuhin> help me plz
[18:39] <charlesburton> you have to edit the file and remove the rules
[18:39] <charlesburton> I don't remember off the top of my head where the file is
[18:39] <fellayaboy> um which file is that by the way
[18:39] <charlesburton> just a second, I'll find it
[18:39] <tuhin> i want to install windows 7 along with ubuntu
[18:39] <fellayaboy> lol ok
[18:39] <genii> fellayaboy: May want to consult https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo#Saving_iptables
[18:39] <tuhin> p
[18:39] <tuhin> p
[18:39] <tuhin> p
[18:39] <tuhin> p
[18:39] <tuhin> p
[18:39] <tuhin> p
[18:39] <unopaste> tuhin you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[18:40] <Charlie> iptables -F for removing all rules
[18:40] <charlesburton> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[18:40] <Charlie> Use ufw though, it's in Ubuntu, and much easier to use if you can't understand iptables.
[18:40] <fellayaboy> charlie thanks
[18:40] <charlesburton> NP
[18:40] <jdsdsa> I need help writing a script. The script is supposed to ask the user which directory they would like a listing of, which directory the would like the output to be stored in, and the name of the outputfile
[18:41] <Charlie> And what's that script supposed to do?
[18:41] <Charlie> Nvm
[18:41] <Charlie> My bad
[18:41] <ifthenelse> I am running Ubuntu 14.04 on a server. I have a weird error were after a little bit, the header of the windows will get clear vertical lines, then the text will get weird, then more graphical glitches occur, then the screen freezes and I can't move the mouse. I can, however, ssh in and work over the terminal. What is wrong and how can I fix it?
[18:41] <Charlie> Just write those commands in a shell script? Easy as heck
[18:42] <ifthenelse> Do I need proprietary drivers?
[18:43] <jayar> i'm dual booting winxp and ubuntu, ethernet was working, now it connects, but doesnt get an address. works fine in windows
[18:43] <Charlie> ifthenelse: Something's wrong with the cable or the board itself. I've seen it happen two or three times, was always a hardware fault
[18:43] <jayar> if i plug usb/ethernet i get an address and connect (i'm connected to that now)
[18:43] <ifthenelse> When I restarted with "REISUB", it gave me an error when I logged back in that "Xorg" is problemed
[18:43] <Charlie> ifthenelse: What does dmesg say?
[18:44] <ifthenelse> Charlie: How can I check? I already left the xorg error apport thing
[18:46] <Charlie> ifthenelse: cat /var/log/dmesg && cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:46] <tuhin> plz help
[18:46] <Charlie> tuhin: with what?
[18:47] <bazhang> !partition | tuhin
[18:47] <Charlie> I need to understand how this damn bot works one day
[18:47] <Charlie> !help | Charlie
[18:48] <tuhin> thanks ppl
[18:48] <tuhin> thanks ubottu
[18:49] <ifthenelse> Charlie: I don't see any errors in dmesg and Xorg.0.log except for no input driver specified for some things
[18:50] <ifthenelse> Charlie: I'm just going to use proprietary drivers and see if that helps
[18:50] <Charlie> Xorg input drivers can be installed with apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-all
[18:50] <Charlie> But that has nothing to do with video being crapped out
[18:51] <Charlie> What's the video hardware on your system?
[18:51] <Charlie> I doubt you have a graphics card in a server heh
[18:52] <Megabyte> hi guys
[18:52] <Megabyte> Is there any place I can find an SVG image of http://www.mediafire.com/view/1vaoj184g1alsgn/SysIcon.png?
[18:52] <ifthenelse> Charlie:: Nvidia GeForce GTX 660
[18:52] <Charlie> hm, do you need it on a server? might as well unplug it and run it on onboard?
[18:52] <Charlie> Headless rather ..
[18:53] <ifthenelse> Charlie: I always use it headless so it didn't bother me, but my co-workers will probably complain
[18:53] <Charlie> Ah, I know that feeling, might as well try the blobs, I doubt it's that though
[18:53] <ifthenelse> Charlie: xserver-xorg-input-all is already installed
[18:53] <Charlie> noveuo is decent enough for a card that old imo, should be hardware
[18:54] <Charlie> What input device does it say is missing drivers then?
[18:54] <tuhin> how can i install windows 7 along with ubuntu
[18:54] <tuhin> ?
[18:54] <wilee-nilee> !dualboot | tuhin
[18:54] <Schnabeltierchen> tuhin yes, first install windows and after that ubuntu
[18:54] <ifthenelse> Charlie: HDMI/DP, PCH nothing important
[18:55] <tuhin> but i hav installed ubuntu first
[18:55] <Schnabeltierchen> that´s bad...
[18:55] <tuhin> what to do/
[18:55] <genii> tuhin: The normal method is to have windows installed first, then make a CD/DVD of the Ubuntu you want to install and boot up to that and then follow the install instructions
[18:55] <tuhin> help me
[18:55] <wilee-nilee> Schnabeltierchen, Don't generalize without knowing more.
[18:55] <ifthenelse> Charlie: It *seems* to correlate when I open firefox
[18:55] <Charlie> tuhin: Find an empty partition or add another disk, install windows, reconfigure grub.
[18:56] <ifthenelse> I feel like I really should install the proprietary drivers first and if I still have the problem then revert back
[18:56] <ifthenelse> ...
[18:56] <tuhin> there is no empty partition more than 1 mb
[18:56] <tuhin> only one 460gb
[18:56] <wilee-nilee> tuhin, In ubuntu run sudo parted - l and pastebin it.
[18:56] <tuhin> but i am not able to resize it
[18:56] <wilee-nilee> sudo parted -ltuhin
[18:56] <Schnabeltierchen> wilee-nilee don´t assume my knoweldge be few about dualboot...
[18:56] <Charlie> Sounds fair enough ifthenelse
[18:57] <tuhin> sudo parted?
[18:57] <tuhin> app?
[18:57] <ifthenelse> Charlie: Thanks for your help! If it blows up again you'll probably see me in here complaining
[18:57] <Schnabeltierchen> all my machines have win 7/ubuntu dual boot.... but without knowing anything, better insult the others first...
[18:57] <wilee-nilee> Schnabeltierchen, I'm not here to argue but just saying it is bad is not good help.
[18:57] <Charlie> Cheers mate ;)
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> Schnabeltierchen, You are insulted as you response is one of defense rather than thinking, no insult intended.
[18:58] <Charlie> Ladies, calm yo nipples.
[18:59] <Schnabeltierchen> allready sent him to ignore list, my time is too valuable to be wasted with him....
[18:59] <Charlie> tuhin: type this without the "" - "sudo fdisk -l"
[18:59] <wilee-nilee> Schnabeltierchen, Cool I will do the same for you, peace. ;)
[18:59] <Charlie> and copy paste what you see here
[19:00] <wilee-nilee> Charlie, That is to big should be pastebinned
[19:00] <tuhin> ok
[19:00] <Charlie> Well I thought people would have the common sense to do that if needed
[19:00] <Charlie> But alright, tuhin if it's more than 2 or 3 lines put on pastebin.com and link it here
[19:01] <wilee-nilee> Charlie, I already suggested this as well, and your off topic comments are just inane.
[19:01] <Charlie> My bad then, wanna put me on ignore too?
[19:02] <r3v3rb> hi all
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> r3v3rb, You have a support issue for the channel?
[19:04] <r3v3rb> if I have a user www-data on two servers that are owners of /var/www/xyz/ and below how can I get scp or rsync to copy files between the two servers ( both on a prvate network so no ssh necessary )
[19:04] <r3v3rb> wilee-nilee: ^^
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> r3v3rb, Thanks beyond my help.
[19:05] <charlesburton> Do you want to automate that?
[19:05] <r3v3rb> when I try with scp -rpC /var/www/xyz/ www-data@private.network:/var/www/xyz
[19:05] <r3v3rb> i get permission errors
[19:05] <r3v3rb> charlesburton: eventually
[19:05] <charlesburton> can you type this "grep www-data /etc/passwd"?
[19:05] <r3v3rb> sure
[19:06]  * t0nn1 
[19:06] <charlesburton> it should only be one line so you can put it here
[19:06] <r3v3rb> www-data:x:33:33:www-data:/var/www:/usr/sbin/nologin
[19:07] <charlesburton> That's why
[19:07] <charlesburton> www-data has a nologin shell
[19:07] <charlesburton> that means that it's not allowed to actually login
[19:07] <r3v3rb> is that easy to change?
[19:07] <charlesburton> well, you don't really want to
[19:07] <charlesburton> I'm assuming these are for webservers right?
[19:07] <r3v3rb> charlesburton: correct
[19:07] <charlesburton> Ok
[19:07] <r3v3rb> in an azure lamp stack
[19:08] <charlesburton> Ah, ok
[19:08] <r3v3rb> so the private network is the lamp availability set and load balancer
[19:08] <charlesburton> having the www-data user able to login is a huge security risk and should be avoided
[19:08] <r3v3rb> hideous and I already hate my client
[19:08] <charlesburton> try running that same command as root, the -p option should preserve permissions
[19:08] <r3v3rb> charlesburton: sure
[19:08] <mystronyx> Is it conceivable to install ubuntu onto an external usb hard drive and then use that drive on various computers? Or am I better off sticking with one computer and installing Ubuntu onto its internal hard drive?
[19:08] <wilee-nilee> mystronyx, Yes, I would use a flash stick though.
[19:09] <charlesburton> if that doesn't work I can maybe craft you a tar command that should do the trick
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> will run relatively slow even if usb 3 however mystronyx
[19:10] <mystronyx> wilee-nilee oh really. Ok. Because I was thinking of recording music. Perhaps that would run slowly via USB.
[19:10] <r3v3rb> charlesburton: only problem is that root password is not known in an azure VM
[19:10] <charlesburton> ah
[19:10] <Glorfindel> How does one kill a process?
[19:10] <charlesburton> do you have sudo access?
[19:10] <r3v3rb> charlesburton: yes
[19:10] <wilee-nilee> mystronyx, Internal HD and external just have different read write speeds is all
[19:10] <charlesburton> hmmmm, that's still tricky though
[19:11] <mystronyx> wilee-nilee yeah. Is there a reason to recommend a usb stick over an externally powered usb drive?
[19:11] <r3v3rb> charlesburton: it’s like M$ have made life deliberately difficult by not passing the root user to the VM ;)
[19:12] <Glorfindel> Anyone?
[19:12] <Sigurd> Glorfindel: man kill
[19:12] <charlesburton> Yeah, that makes it a little harder
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> mystronyx, Theoretically it should run faster internally, however quality of either is a variable.
[19:12] <charlesburton> let me make a tar command that might work
[19:13] <genii> Glorfindel: Usually something like ps aux    to find the PID then kill <PID>
[19:13] <mystronyx> wilee-nilee ok I see. Thanks
[19:13] <wilee-nilee> mystronyx, I would use a SSD if that was an option
[19:13] <mystronyx> wilee-nilee yeah I agree.
[19:13] <charlesburton> Ok, here we go.  I recommend testing this on something benign first
[19:14] <Glorfindel> @Sigurd: what is the vt command? @genii: ps aux shows a process list?
[19:15] <Sigurd> Glorfindel, sorry. Don't understand your question about "vt".
[19:15] <Glorfindel> Virtual Terminal
[19:15] <Glorfindel> crtl+alt+F1
[19:16] <genii> Glorfindel: Use something like ps aux | grep <offending-process-name>  ... then the list will be shorter. Then look at the number in the second column and use that for the kill command
[19:16] <genii> Those are consoles.
[19:16] <Sigurd> Glorfindel, the command is "kill". You get the process ID with "ps aux". Just as genii said.
[19:16] <charlesburton> sudo tar zcvf - /var/www/xyz/ | ssh <userthatcanlogin>@server (cd /var/www/xyz/ && sudo tar xvzf -)
[19:16] <OerHeks> ctrl alt t - terminal
[19:16] <scrubfest> What is the difference between backtrack and kali? And which should I use (I'm a newbie, looking to learn how to use the tools they contain) [Probably the wrong channel to ask this in? ]
[19:17] <charlesburton> seriously though try that on something safe first
[19:17] <charlesburton> like something you're not worried about blowing up
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> scrubfest, Neither supported here ask them. ;)
[19:17] <OerHeks> scrubfest, those are unsupported, i give one clue: backtrack is discontinued
[19:17] <daftykins> scrubfest: neither have anything to do with ubuntu, you will need to find their respective support channels
[19:17] <r3v3rb> charlesburton:
[19:17] <robotdevil> is front panel audio and rear panel audio switching not supported out of the box
[19:17] <r3v3rb> thanks will try
[19:17]  * genii slides daftykins a tasty cookie
[19:17] <daftykins> :D
[19:17]  * daftykins slides genii a coffee in return
[19:18] <scrubfest> I figured, thanks anyway :)
[19:18]  * genii sips
[19:18] <n-st> hi, i've got a problem with `grub-update`: it reports "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of `/dev/sdb2'." — which isn't surprising, since /dev/sdb2 no longer exists. how can i make grub-update/grub-probe aware of that?
[19:18] <daftykins> n-st: perhaps you've not updated your /etc/fstab
[19:19] <n-st> daftykins: /dev/sdb2 never was in the fstab and it only uses UUIDs, so that shouldn't cause the problem
[19:19] <robotdevil> as in do the speakers cut out when you plugin in headphones
[19:19] <redy> Hi , how i can upgrade ubuntu 14.04 beta to ubuntu 14.04 final ?
[19:19] <daftykins> n-st: shouldn't, but it was #1 place to look, ok nm
[19:20] <charlesburton> redy a simple dist-upgrade should do the trick
[19:21] <redy> dist-upgrade ? I must run it from terminal ?
[19:21] <daftykins> redy: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:21] <charlesburton> Honestly if you just update it as per normal you should be on the final anyway
[19:21] <charlesburton> the repos are the same
[19:21] <Glorfindel> @genii: ok I didn't know :) do you know what the FireFox process would be called?
[19:22] <r3v3rb> charlesburton: -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[19:22] <genii> n-st: I'd probably ( very carefully ) edit the /boot/grub/grub.cfg menuentries that refer to the UUID of the now-gone sdb
[19:22] <charlesburton> hgrm
[19:22] <charlesburton> ok
[19:22] <genii> Glorfindel: Probably just: firefox
[19:23] <r3v3rb> hgrm?
[19:23] <charlesburton> try just taking out the parans
[19:23] <redy> Ok thanks , Dose anyone know ffmpeg remove from official repo on ubuntu 14.04 ?
[19:23] <n-st> genii: there arent' any :)
[19:23] <charlesburton> I sometimes get my different shells mixed up
[19:23] <n-st> s/:)/:(/
[19:24] <genii> redy: avconv is used now by default, but ffmpeg can still be installed
[19:24] <r3v3rb> charlesburton: :D this is a bash shell afaik
[19:24] <Glorfindel> @genii: I don't see any firefox process and yet when I try to open ff it claims that it is already open and not responding. Any suggestions?
[19:25] <charlesburton> probably, but haven't had to craft a command like that since I was using csh
[19:25] <genii> Very odd. I used to get a similar message with a card reader when no card in it but driver was loaded
[19:25] <n-st> some background that might help: i copied my system from an old ssd to a new one, grub broke, so i chroot'ed into my rootfs and ran grub-install and grub-update. /dev/sdb probably was the usb stick with the live distro at that time, but i'm not entirely sure
[19:25] <r3v3rb> hmm, time to go play with family and leave this until next week (or tomorrow if I’m feeling sadistic)
[19:26] <charlesburton> Good luck
[19:26] <Sigurd> Glorfindel, maybe firefox uses a lockfile then?
[19:26] <r3v3rb> charlesburton: thanks
[19:26] <n-st> and it doesn't show up in the grub menu, so i'm stumped as to where grub-probe is getting it from…
[19:26] <charlesburton> If I'm still here on Monday please let me know
[19:26] <r3v3rb> will do
[19:26] <Glorfindel> What is that Sigurd?
[19:26] <r3v3rb> night all
[19:27] <n-st> Glorfindel: when firefox starts, it creates a file in the profile directory you're using, so no other firefox instance will use it (to avoid issues)
[19:27] <wilee-nilee> Glorfindel, try killall firefox in the cli
[19:28] <n-st> when it doesn't terminate cleanly, the lock file might remain there and firefox will assume that another instance is still running and it therefore must not use the profile directory
[19:28] <Glorfindel> ok, it said no process found
[19:29] <wilee-nilee> !booinfo | n-st run this ans pastebin the output script
[19:29] <wilee-nilee> !bootinfo | n-st run this ans pastebin the output script
[19:29] <genii> Glorfindel: Maybe try from in X but in xsession: firefox -no-remote
[19:29] <genii> ( this prevents it from attaching to a running copy some other place)
[19:30] <jackarg> !find  libtcmalloc_minimal.so.4
[19:30] <jackarg> !help
[19:31] <wilee-nilee> jackarg, Give details and don't cry help.
[19:31] <jackarg> eh, I meant to do /help
[19:31] <jackarg> to see a list of commands
[19:31] <wilee-nilee> jackarg, Cool, http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu&search=wifi&order=name%20ASC&page=0
[19:32] <jackarg> thanks
[19:32] <Sigurd> Glorfindel, I think the file is ".mozilla/firefox/*/lock". Try renaming it.
[19:33] <Glorfindel> I'm sorry, but I have know idea what you are talking about with xsession and cli :) I installed linux for the first time a week ago
[19:33] <jackarg> what's the channel for ubuntu bots again?
[19:34] <Glorfindel> Sigurd, what folder would that be under?
[19:34] <jackarg> ok, hi there, I'm getting this error when trying to do optirun on some games: You appear to have OpenGL 1.4.0, but we need at least 2.0.0! Could not find required OpenGL entry point 'glGetError'! Either your video card is unsupported, or your OpenGL driver needs to be updated.
[19:34] <jackarg> anyone have any idea how to fix this?
[19:35] <n-st> wilee-nilee: http://pastebin.com/qzY0pmyh
[19:35] <Sigurd> Glorfindel, "home/your_username/.mozilla/firefox/*/"
[19:35] <Sigurd> Glorfindel, If you use the filemanager you will need to enable "show hidden files", or similar option.
[19:36] <redy> I use before ubuntu 14.04 beta . Smplayer dosen't work . Mplayer is too . Please see log of these
[19:36] <redy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7603717/
[19:37] <redy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7603728/
[19:37] <Glorfindel> ok Sigurd, found it. Delete it or just rename it?
[19:37] <OerHeks> redy, upgrade, as the beta packages can be updated by now.
[19:37] <redy> For this problem i left ubuntu to open suse
[19:37] <Sigurd> Glorfindel, just open up a terminal (Ctrl-Alt_T) and type exactly "rm .mozilla/firefox/*/lock". Then try starting firefox again.
[19:38] <OerHeks> redy,  no use for fixing bugs in past packages, is it?
[19:38] <charlesburton> jackarg, what videocard do you have?
[19:38] <charlesburton> it looks like you need the proprietary driver
[19:38] <Sigurd> Glorfindel, try renaming first. IGNORE my last message.
[19:38] <charlesburton> and your version of OpenGL is really really old
[19:38] <Glorfindel> Ok :)
[19:39] <wilee-nilee> n-st, I assume ubuntu is on sdb a btrfs, I'm not up on that file system, but it has no bootloader in it's mbr, grub is in the sda mbr. I wonder if it is a read problem, with that file system and 3 terabytes in size?
[19:39] <jackarg> charlesburton: my graphics card is an Nvidia geforce 710M. Then I guess I should just update my opengl? It shouldn't be that old though
[19:39] <wilee-nilee> n-st, Doh I missed the sda2 is ubuntu
[19:39] <Glorfindel> Sigurd, rename is greyed out, do your previous command?
[19:39] <charlesburton> jackarg, oh you just need to install the Nvidia proprietary driver
[19:40] <Sigurd> Glorfindel, yes
[19:40] <jackarg> charlesburton: nono, I have two cards. the default one is an intel something, and I use bumblebee when playing games
[19:40] <charlesburton> jackarg https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[19:40] <Jordan_U> n-st: Please pastebin the contents of /proc/self/mounts and /proc/self/mountinfo .
[19:41] <blizzow> The intel 7260 wireless centrino card is hosed.  I keep deauthenticating and re-authenticating to my wireless network with this thing.  I've tried upgrading the firmware to iwlwifi-7260-8.ucode in /lib/firmware and get no joy.    I've also tried the *-9.ucode and that's even worse.  I tried an apt-get update and dist-upgrade a few minutes ago just to make sure I'm at the latest and greatest.  Does anyone know how to fix this issue?
[19:41] <jackarg> charlesburton: optirun is my thing it's just that I've been getting all these errors recently
[19:41] <wilee-nilee> n-st, I see Jordan_U is here so there is better help there. ;)
[19:42] <charlesburton> Ah, I don't know then
[19:42] <charlesburton> I've never messed with Optimus
[19:42] <n-st> Jordan_U: /proc/self/mounts contains "/dev/sdb2 / btrfs rw,relatime,ssd,space_cache 0 0" — that's just plain wrong!
[19:42] <n-st> oh.
[19:42] <Sigurd> Glorfindel, any luck?
[19:42] <n-st> probably a remainder of the uuid clash i had earlier
[19:42] <jackarg> charlesburton: just, is there any way to update opengl?
[19:42] <Glorfindel> Sigurd, it printed this:rm: cannot remove `.mozilla/firefox/twx4866c.default/lock': Read-only file system
[19:42] <charlesburton> not really, it's driver dependent
[19:42] <genii> Meh, btrfs
[19:43] <redy> I don't know .
[19:43] <n-st> as i said, i copied the partitions from my old ssd, so i had two partitions with identical uuids for a while. that seems to have confused the system…
[19:43] <jackarg> ok
[19:43] <Sigurd> Glorfindel, Are you in a live boot enviroment? Ie. running from usb stick?
[19:43] <Glorfindel> No
[19:44] <n-st> Jordan_U: i guess a reboot should fix that, right?
[19:44] <Jordan_U> n-st: When Univerally Unique Identifiers end up being non-unique, bad things tend to happen. *Especially* when btrfs is involved.
[19:44] <Glorfindel> Ubuntu 12.10
[19:44] <Glorfindel> currantly upgrading
[19:45] <charlesburton> jackarg, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[19:45] <Glorfindel> It was anyway
[19:45] <genii> n-st: This wasn't some btrfs RAID where you could use the regular btrfs commands to remove the drive?
[19:45] <Jordan_U> n-st: Reboot, and make sure that you haven't accidentally corrupted both copies of your btrfs filesystem.
[19:45] <Sigurd> Glorfindel, you are as in this instant doing an system upgrade?
[19:45] <jackarg> charlesburton:  14.04. I also use mint 16 a bit more but the same error pops up
[19:46] <Jordan_U> n-st: If you have important non-backed up data on this filesystem, try to back it up *before rebooting*.
[19:46] <jackarg> charlesburton: actually I don't know if it's the same error. I think it is.
[19:46] <charlesburton> jackarg:  Yeah I'm not really sure then.  I don't know much about optimus graphics.  It would make sense if it was the same error though.
[19:47] <Glorfindel> It was, I was haveing it download everything and when it was done I was going to restart.
[19:47] <Glorfindel> but someone literaly pulled the plug
[19:47] <charlesburton> jackarg: It sounds like you need an updated driver somewhere though, either the intel or the Nvidia one
[19:47] <n-st> Jordan_U: i did boot from the btrfs after the first time the two filesystems coexisted, so i'm confident that it's still intact
[19:47] <jackarg> charlesburton:  ok thanks
[19:48] <n-st> not so sure about the source btrfs on the (now unplugged) ssd, but i can't connect it to check, or i'd have the clash all over again :/
[19:48] <n-st> genii: nope, two separate disks.
[19:49] <n-st> alright, i'll reboot and hope for the best. see you in a minute (hopefully).
[19:49] <Sigurd> Glorfindel, I'm sorry. I don't think I can help you out. The file obviously needs to be removed. But I can not for the love of God understand why your home file system would be mounted read only. You have rebooted after your upgrade?
[19:49] <genii> I wonder if the btrfs balance might work.
[19:49] <Glorfindel> No, it didn't finish
[19:50] <Glorfindel> actually the upgrade thing is saying to check my internet conection
[19:50] <Glorfindel> I'm going to try rebooting again and see if it helps
[19:50] <Guest89167> any brazilians?
[19:50] <Sigurd> Glorfindel, Ok. I would reboot and see what happens. BUT I can not recomend someone whos system I know nothing about to do that. Are your important files backed up?
[19:51] <bprompt> `br | Guest89167
[19:51] <bprompt> !br | Guest89167
[19:51] <Glorfindel> oh and according to the file properties it is not read-only
[19:51] <Sigurd> Glorfindel, Are you planning on upgrading all the way up to 14.04?
[19:51] <Glorfindel> and technically my importand ones are because I don't have any on this system :D yes I am
[19:52] <bekks> Glorfindel: Reinstalling 14.04 will be more easy and faster.
[19:52] <Sigurd> I would do a new install. Saves you a lot of time
[19:52] <Ridley> how to force Skype to use a tunnel please
[19:53] <Glorfindel> Yeah, I guess that would be the other option :)
[19:53] <Glorfindel> Alright, back in a bit
[19:53] <n-st> Jordan_U: i rebooted (twice, actually) and it's still alive :)
[19:53] <enzo_> cc
[20:00] <mellohey> hi, im trying to connect through a vpn and i keep getting activation of network connection failed
[20:00] <Jordan_U> n-st: Is /proc/self/mounts looking better, and update-grub happy, now?
[20:02] <Glorfindel> Alright
[20:02] <Ridley> how to prenvet Skype ip resolving under Ubuntu
[20:02] <Ridley> *prevent
[20:03] <n-st> Jordan_U: yup, everything's back to normal, and i've plugged the ssd into another machine and deleted the btrfs with the colliding uuid. thanks for the help!
[20:03] <Jordan_U> n-st: You're welcome.
[20:03] <Glorfindel> Sigurd, rebooting worked! Thanks for your help :)
[20:03] <Obiwantje> Guys on 14.04 is there any way to make x2go work?
[20:04] <Sigurd> Glorfindel, :)
[20:04] <mellohey> hi, im trying to connect through a vpn and i keep getting activation of network connection failed
[20:04] <m1chael> i have this bug in xubuntu 14.04, where if i close the lid of my laptop, the computer will not wake up. i've been hoping that the bug is going to get fixed in the updates, but it's been awhile. i don't want to have to do anything hackish to fix this, but what should i do?
[20:05] <alainv> hey all, I'm having some trouble with an init script not launching elasticsearch - but the exact same command (start-stop-daemon with args) from a shell launches it succesfully
[20:05] <alainv> i am... unsure how to further troubleshoot
[20:11] <m1chael>  i have this bug in xubuntu 14.04, where if i close the lid of my laptop, the computer will not wake up. i've been hoping that the bug is going to get fixed in the updates, but it's been awhile. i don't want to have to do anything hackish to fix this, but what should i do?
[20:15] <shoerain> are the default conf files linkable somewhere online? I'm talking about stuff like the upstart script at /etc/init/mysql.conf on 12.04 -- it would be useful to link to it in my documentation
[20:15] <shoerain> er, some documentation I'm writing
[20:15] <nightray> charlesburton, are you there?
[20:19] <diraol> Hi all, may I ask questions about UbuntuOne service over here or there is another channel that fits better?
[20:19] <rww> diraol: #ubuntuone
[20:20] <diraol> rww: Thanks!
[20:21] <needhelerdude> need help i have a directory with folders i want to delete 1 file out of all the folders in the directory what command should i use?
[20:21] <Pici> needhelerdude: the same filename?
[20:22] <needhelerdude> yes
[20:22] <Jordan_U> needhelerdude: rm -i /directory/*/filename
[20:22] <Pici> needhelerdude: find /path/to/files -name "something.foo" -delete
[20:22] <needhelerdude> thax about to try it
[20:23] <Jordan_U> needhelerdude: And remember, whenever you use a wildcard for deletion you should use "-i" to make it interactive, otherwise you will make a typo one day and remove a lot of files you meant to keep.
[20:23] <Pici> needhelerdude: for the command I gave, remove the -delete, and it will just list the files instead of removing them.
[20:24] <needhelerdude> i cd'ed into the directory
[20:24] <hornypsy1ho> stop sharing ma links
[20:25] <Pici> hornypsy1ho: can we help you?
[20:25] <hornypsy1ho> lol
[20:25] <hornypsy1ho> wrong channel
[20:25] <hornypsy1ho> accidental shift
[20:29] <needhelerdude> thanks man that worked had to press y to delete the files though is it because of the *
[20:35] <skinux> How can we add functionality (e.g. right-click) to have option of launching apps with super user privileges?
[20:40] <awptea> Hey folks, I have an MSI GT70-894 laptop and it seems that I'm having some serious issues getting the nvidia drivers to work. It keeps kicking back to the XRender subsystem and nothing else seems to see that there's an nvidia card installed along with the graphics device on the cpu
[20:41] <awptea> Here's the output of lspci and glxinfo: http://pastie.org/private/3633p0qh7ep5usrmbh0ala
[20:41] <charlesburton> You have to configure bumblebee for optimus graphics, that's what you have.  I wish I could give you more info, but optimus is still really really buggy on linux
[20:42] <bekks> awptea: you can alos use nvidia prime.
[20:42] <awptea> nVidia Prime?
[20:42] <awptea> (I'll eyeball Bumblebee)
[20:43] <bekks> Thats what I said, yes.
[20:44] <kalisondey> salut tout le monde
[20:45] <awptea> Ah, there it is, a package called nvidia-prime. Appreciate it, bekks and charlesburton.
[20:45] <e^> !french | kalisondey
[20:45] <awptea> Been a very, very long time since I gave Linux a go on a desktop/laptop (> 10 years)
[20:45] <kalisondey> ubottu: thx
[20:46] <Glorfindel> Ubot is a bot u?
[20:47] <charlesburton> Yeah, ubottu is a bot
[20:47] <charlesburton> a pretty cool one, but a bot nonetheless
[20:47] <Glorfindel> lol ok
[20:49] <awptea> Well, that didn't work too well. Had to remove nvidia-prime -- Xorg wouldn't start.
[20:50] <streulma> hello, I have a Macbook Pro 5.2 the webcam is not working anymore in 14.04, is there a solution from someone of here?
[20:51] <streulma> it's isight
[20:53] <andzk> hola nenas
[20:54] <e^> !mexican | andzk
[20:54] <andzk> q paso?
[20:54] <Kodiak-> Yo
[20:54] <andzk> tu que?
[20:55] <skinux> How about this problem?: Errors were encountered while processing:
[20:55] <skinux>  weboob-qt
[20:55] <skinux> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[20:57] <Pici> !es | andzk
[20:59] <Hurkal> hi
[21:01] <mavros> re malakes
[21:13] <streulma> is there still a solution for iSight in Ubuntu 14.04 ?
[21:15] <bekks> streulma: whats isight?
[21:18] <streulma> bekks: the apple webcam in macbooks
[21:18] <bekks> ah, ok.
[21:18] <streulma> bekks: there WAS a solution, but it's still not working anymore
[21:20] <dirty__> hello all
[21:23] <Kodiak-> dirty__: Hey there
[21:25] <_Bauer> guys, I have ubuntu 13.10, and for quite a while I could not boot normally for some issues with graphics. I also had stability issues where comp froze all the time and rebooted often. I now have a new video card (switched from old nvidia to new ATI carD) - but I still cant boot in ubuntu
[21:25] <_Bauer> I cant reset xorg config in the help screen
[21:25] <_Bauer> recovery mode with limited graphics also leads to black screen with just the mouse, after login screen
[21:26] <compdoc> I think ubuntu 13.10 is dead. might want to start again with a fresh install of 14.04
[21:26] <_Bauer> I also tried dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg to reset the xorg config from command line
[21:26] <_Bauer> but no change
[21:27] <_Bauer> compdoc: well, I'd want to at least somehow backup my profile data like .ssh, .xchat2 dirs etc
[21:28] <guyz> is there any way to easily/quickly jail an SSH user to their home directory without having to install anything extra or effect any other user accounts?
[21:28] <pr3d4t0r> Greetings.
[21:29] <_Bauer> guyz: simply make sure his startup script always executes a chroot command, I think..
[21:29] <Alace> _Bauer, mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[21:29] <pr3d4t0r> Q. Where can I find out which security advisor corresponds to an automatic update just done on one of my Ubuntu servers?  I have the linux-3.xx.xx image version.  Thanks in advance.
[21:29] <guyz> _Bauer, do you happen to have a link to a tutorial or resource (I'm fairly noob)
[21:29] <Alace> _Bauer, restartx
[21:29]  * pr3d4t0r browses the Canonical web site.
[21:30] <_Bauer> Alace: what about removing the nvidia drivers while at it? to reduce errors in log
[21:30] <compdoc> _Bauer, btw, if you dso a fresh install of any ubuntu, and you get freezes and crashes, theres a hardware issue
[21:30] <SonikkuAmerica> pr3d4t0r: perhaps #ubuntu-server has your answer
[21:30] <pr3d4t0r> SonikkuAmerica: Thanks, will check there.  Have a nice wknd.
[21:31] <Alace> no _Bauer you xorg.conf is still reading Nvidia.  Change the name of xorg.conf that's all and it resets.  Don't forget to startx
[21:31] <mike_papa> Guys, anyone can help me with optimizing ubuntu to work as virtualbox guest under windows? I'm sick of graphics working so slow. Host is running on i7 with 32GB ram. I believe it's 3d graphics related, which basically I don't care at all.
[21:31] <_Bauer> compdoc: hmm, could it be that one of the ubuntu 13.10 updates introduced the issue to me?
[21:32] <Alace> _Bauer, type jockey-gtk
[21:32] <Alace> and pick your driver
[21:32] <guntbert> mike_papa: did you install the guest-additions?
[21:32] <mike_papa> guntbert: yes I did
[21:33] <_Bauer> Alace: there are only xorg.failsafe and .new... no current config file
[21:33] <compdoc> _Bauer, anything is possible. but be sure to cheack your hard drive's SMART health using the disk utility, make sure all the fans inside the computer are running and that the heatsicks arent clogged up, and if the motherboard and power supply are 3 years old, theres a possiblity of bad caps
[21:35] <mike_papa> guntbert: I use ubuntu mainly for coding, so if it's possible, I would get rid of all things like compiz, etc... but I don't really know how to do that, without destroying whole unity...
[21:35] <bgardner> quit
[21:35] <_Bauer> compdoc: well I already changed to a brand new Antec PSU, new video card.. it resolved most of my stability problems (checked only in windows so far). Now I am trying to return to my linux hdd (which is SSD, so not much to check there in SMART....)
[21:35] <compdoc> cool
[21:35] <e^> mike_papa: why not switch to xdfe?
[21:35] <compdoc> how old is the motherboard?
[21:35] <guntbert> !text | mike_papa
[21:36] <mike_papa> e^: That could be a way to go. But... how? ;)
[21:36] <e^> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[21:36] <e^> and that's it :)
[21:36] <mike_papa> ubottu: I'd love to stay in GUI, as I use pycharm
[21:36] <_Bauer> Alace: there is no jockey-gtk for me (I cant boot proper gui), and only jockey-text, which gives me error that it cant connect to D-BUS.. what does that mean?
[21:36] <guntbert> mike_papa: the next idea: start the VM "headless" and access it via ssh
[21:37] <mike_papa> guntbert: pycharm won't work ;)
[21:37] <guntbert> mike_papa: ah then I misunderstood - listen to what e^ said
[21:39] <_Bauer> Where are the updated NetBoot images? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot
[21:39] <mike_papa> e^: ok getting it now. and how would I get rid of regular manager, whatever is it? Will it switch to xdfe by itself?
[21:40] <mike_papa> possibility to choose which one to run on boot would be great. or just get rid of unity.
[21:41] <streulma> mike_papa set video ram to 128MB
[21:41] <mike_papa> streulma: it's allready on 256
[21:42] <e^> mike_papa: just log out, then click on xubuntu session next to your username
[21:42] <streulma> hmm ubuntu 14.04 mike_papa ? same problem on VBox...
[21:42] <mike_papa> I've found something about linux-virtual kernel. Is it worth.
[21:42] <mike_papa> streulma: yeah. 14.04
[21:42] <streulma> mike_papa ok then it is ok. 12.04 works better
[21:43] <mike_papa> ok. already different loading screen
[21:43] <ruwd> have a c++ question.. couldn't get into the room...  std::vector<int> vertices() const
[21:43] <ruwd> { std::vector<int> temp;typedef typename std::map<int,DigraphVertex<VertexInfo,EdgeInfo>>::const_iterator it;
[21:43] <ruwd> for( it iterator  = theMap.begin(); iterator != theMap.end(); ++iterator) {  temp.push_back( iterator->first); } return temp;}
[21:43] <ruwd> any help
[21:44] <mike_papa> perfect. Guys. You just saved me couple of hours.
[21:44] <ruwd> keep getting out of bounds error...
[21:44] <guntbert> !paste | ruwd
[21:44] <mike_papa> e^: tahnks a lot
[21:44] <ruwd> sry
[21:45] <e^> mike_papa: you're welcome
[21:45] <guntbert> ruwd: and this is the Ubuntu suport channel - register your account and ask in #c
[21:45] <ruwd> thxs
[21:46] <bardis> greek channel???
[21:46] <guntbert> !gr | bardis
[21:46] <bardis> thank u
[21:47] <mike_papa> First thing I can complain is... I really got used to this app search field. Can you recomend something for xfce, so I don't have to use "menu start"?
[21:52] <SenorSenpai> how do I chaneg themes in flashback?
[21:53] <e^> mike_papa: sudo apt-get synapse
[21:53] <jchavez2>  
[21:53] <mike_papa> e^: unable to lacate
[21:54] <mike_papa> locate*
[21:57] <e^> mike_papa sudo add-apt-repository ppa:noobslab/apps , sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get install synapse
[21:58] <e^> mike_papa: http://www.noobslab.com/2013/06/synapse-launcher-for-ubuntu.html
[21:59] <e^> i've not used it though so i'm not sure how well it is, seems ok though.
[21:59] <mike_papa> e^: and how can I send you a 'thank you' beer? Like Duchesse de Bourgogne, or something? ;)
[22:00] <e^> hehe :)
[22:00] <OerHeks> !cookie | e^
[22:01] <e^> lol
[22:09] <JonnyDamnnox> hey JO
[22:11] <thecodethinker> I'm trying to make a little test program using C++'s thread class but I keep getting this error when running the program
[22:11] <thecodethinker>  Enable multithreading to use std::thread: Operation not permitted
[22:12] <thecodethinker> apparently there was this bug in an older version of g++ but it was fixed in 4.8.1
[22:12] <thecodethinker> I'm using 4.8.2 and am still getting this error (which was found to be ubuntu specific)
[22:12] <thecodethinker> How can I fix this?
[22:13] <e^> try running g++ as sudo
[22:14] <e^> i have no idea really
[22:14] <bardis> greek server?
[22:14] <Glorfindel> #ubuntu-gr I think
[22:15] <pencil> hello
[22:16] <e^> thecodethinker: g++ -Wl,--no-as-needed -std=c++11 -pthread main.cpp -o main.out
[22:17] <e^> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21129735/g-4-8-1-c-threads-stdsystem-error-operation-not-permitted
[22:17] <e^> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19463602/compiling-multithread-code-with-g
[22:17] <pencil> I went to the update manager after installing 10 from an old disc.  I clicked on upgrade and it doesn't give me any feedback.   Don't know if it's doing something.
[22:19] <Glorfindel> I need some help changing some file permissions
[22:19] <daftykins> Glorfindel: please describe
[22:20] <pencil> Glor how are you trying to change the permissions?
[22:20] <Glorfindel> It is in /etc/ircd/ and when I try to change it using sudo chmod  or sudo chown it won't
[22:20] <Glorfindel> vt
[22:22] <daftykins> Glorfindel: 'it' ? can you pastebin ls -al in the folder before, show the command you're running and what you're trying to achieve?
[22:23] <Glorfindel> Is -al?
[22:24] <Glorfindel> 'it' is the file I am trying to change permissions on
[22:25] <e^> Glorfindel: ls -al
[22:25] <e^> not Is
[22:26] <Glorfindel> L/
[22:26] <Glorfindel> L?
[22:26] <wilee-nilee> Glorfindel, all L's
[22:26] <wilee-nilee> small L's
[22:26] <Glorfindel> ok
[22:27] <Glorfindel> -rwxrwxrwx 1 777 root 497 Oct 17  2011 /etc/ircd/ircd.motd
[22:27] <bardis> poios sas gamaei
[22:27] <bardis> zoakia !!
[22:29] <wilee-nilee> !lt
[22:29] <daftykins> Glorfindel: right so you've 777'd it, which is a really bad move hah - what's going wrong?
[22:29] <daftykins> Glorfindel: however what is the group '497' ?
[22:29] <wilee-nilee> bardis, ^^^^^^^
[22:30] <Glorfindel> I have no idea
[22:30] <e^> didn't he mess it up, using chown 777, instead of chmod 777 ?
[22:31] <Glorfindel> "what's going wrong" I couldn't save it after I edited it
[22:31] <e^> it says the user is "777"
[22:31] <daftykins> e^: oh yeah, silly tired eyes :) good shout
[22:31] <e^> Glorfindel: type sudo chown <yourusername> <filename>
[22:31] <daftykins> we don't know that his ircd runs as his user
[22:31] <daftykins> Glorfindel: is it basically that someone who joins your IRC server isn't getting an MOTD display?
[22:32] <mavros> grnet
[22:33] <unkn-error> Why is ubuntu Malware - Spyware?
[22:33]  * daftykins 's silent troll alarm sounds
[22:33] <unkn-error> It was such a nice distro
[22:34] <wilee-nilee> unkn-error, This is support, you need a blog for that. ;)
[22:34] <unkn-error> is there any way to disable spyware feauters that are build into the ubuntu?
[22:35] <unkn-error> or the spyware functions of ubuntu is so heavy wrapped in that it can't be removed?
[22:35] <daftykins> the shopping lenses can all be disabled pretty easily
[22:35] <Glorfindel> I was getting it, it said: This is Debian's default IRCd server configuration for irc2.11. If you see this and if you are the server administrator, just edit ircd.conf and ircd.motd in /etc/ircd Which is why I wanted to change it
[22:35] <daftykins> but that's not spyware
[22:36] <wilee-nilee> unkn-error, The channel or ubuntu does not call anything in the OS spyware, can you be specific without the use of theses words which are opinions at best?
[22:36] <unkn-error> uhm, well as long it is regarding my privacy it is...
[22:36] <daftykins> Glorfindel: yeah so you want to put your own message in those files, not mess with permissions on them
[22:36] <daftykins> unkn-error: no, you're abusing a term for the wrong scenario
[22:36] <e^> daftykins: do you think root might be the user since the group is root ?
[22:36] <Glorfindel> I can't save it untill I change the perms
[22:36] <daftykins> e^: depends what the IRCd runs as i guess
[22:36] <daftykins> Glorfindel: whoa, you're going about this completely wrong
[22:37] <e^> Glorfindel: you can use sudo nano, gksu gedit etc. to change it
[22:37] <wilee-nilee> unkn-error, All of what you hint at can be turned off in privacy.
[22:37] <daftykins> Glorfindel: first off, what user does your ircd execute as?
[22:37] <Glorfindel> Glorfindel
[22:37] <daftykins> ps -ef | grep irc
[22:38] <unkn-error> daftykins, how can the shoping lens be disabled?
[22:38] <daftykins> unkn-error: i don't personally know but there are hundreds of guides online
[22:38] <wilee-nilee> unkn-error, In privacy, I told you already.
[22:38] <daftykins> ok, so the file is 777'd anyway since you set it earlier, so restore it to normal with "sudo chown root: /etc/ircd/ircd.motd"
[22:38] <daftykins> Glorfindel: ^
[22:38] <unkn-error> okay, thank you I will look after it
[22:38] <Glorfindel> ok
[22:39] <daftykins> Glorfindel: so after that, edit files as e^ said with "sudo nano /etc/ircd/ircd.motd" in a terminal
[22:39] <Glorfindel> ok
[22:39] <pencil> i installed a dual boot ubuntu 10 from a disc but now I'm trying to upgrade with the manager and I can't see feedback that its working
[22:40] <Glorfindel> Thanks for the help everyone :)
[22:40] <wilee-nilee> pencil, 10m what and is this with a desktop?
[22:40] <wilee-nilee> 10*
[22:40] <ResupineEarth> hello
[22:41] <wilee-nilee> !eol | pencil look at eol upgrades
[22:41] <pencil> itss a lap top
[22:41] <wilee-nilee> pencil, A desktop on the OS see the eol info
[22:42] <scrubfest> Trying to burn a .iso to a usb in ubuntu using this software: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ What is "Distribution"?
[22:42] <pencil> ok sso I need to toss the disc and down load from the net
[22:42] <wilee-nilee> scrubfest, The OS
[22:42] <scrubfest> The OS that...?
[22:43] <e^> scrubfest: ...you want to install
[22:43] <scrubfest> Aha
[22:43] <wilee-nilee> pencil, Is that your answer to the issue, or what you have gleaned from here. Use nicks if you are answering another.
[22:43] <scrubfest> Oh, the software is exclusively for booting with usb?
[22:43] <e^> scrubfest: use browse, i think the distribution on the top is to download the .iso online
[22:43] <scrubfest> Not just burning .iso to usb in general?
[22:43] <wilee-nilee> scrubfest, no
[22:43] <OerHeks> scrubfest, why not use usb-creator in your ubuntu?
[22:44] <pencil> Thanks guys.   I have no idea what to do now.
[22:44] <scrubfest> I used disc creator, if that is the one you mean. When I did (tried twice) I got an error
[22:44] <wilee-nilee> scrubfest, What is the ISO's distro?
[22:44] <daftykins> just FYI it's not burning when it's a USB flash drive
[22:45] <scrubfest> distro?
[22:45] <daftykins> if it is, the fire brigade would be over
[22:45] <wilee-nilee> scrubfest, THe OS
[22:45] <scrubfest> Linux?
[22:45] <e^> lol
[22:45] <scrubfest> It's kali
[22:45] <wilee-nilee> scrubfest,To vague what is it fedora, ubuntu...etc
[22:45] <scrubfest> :P
[22:45] <scrubfest> So... kali
[22:45] <scrubfest> :P
[22:46] <scrubfest> Unfortunantly that is not listed in the software. Am I skrewed?
[22:46] <wilee-nilee> scrubfest, Not supported here and the disc creator will only allow ubuntu
[22:46] <scrubfest> Aha... same question
[22:46] <scrubfest> :P
[22:47] <wilee-nilee> scrubfest, Handfuls of usb loaders so take you pick, it seems it is a matter of understanding on how to do this is any specific usb loader app
[22:48] <wilee-nilee> which if true does not support any use of kali at the least
[22:48] <scrubfest> Time to fire up that windows and do this the easy way! :/
[22:49] <scrubfest> Thanks for the help regardless, good night
[22:56] <Megabyte> Guys
[22:56] <Megabyte> we have a huge problem
[22:56] <cristobal> ?
[22:56] <Megabyte> Ubuntu has no multilingual glossary
[22:56] <cristobal> what do you mean XD
[22:57] <Megabyte> It should have one to estabilish coherent naming conventions between many languageas
[22:57] <Megabyte> cristobal, Ubuntu has no technical dictionary listing what is the correct translation between one language to another
[22:57] <Megabyte> cristobal, like this http://www.microsoft.com/Language/en-US/Default.aspx
[22:57] <cristobal> let me see
[22:58] <Megabyte> cristobal, see this example
[22:58] <Megabyte> cristobal, http://www.microsoft.com/Language/en-US/Search.aspx?sString=application&langID=pt-br
[22:59] <cristobal> i see so i guess since the translation is already done it just need a database link and definition check ?
[22:59] <Megabyte> cristobal, Precisely so.
[22:59] <cristobal> hum but what do you really use this for? i  really dont see the use at least i know i iwll never use it:p
[23:00] <Megabyte> cristobal, This speeds up translations a lot while keep consistency
[23:00] <Megabyte> cristobal, *keeping
[23:00] <cristobal> oh i see
[23:00] <cristobal> do you speak another language?
[23:00] <Megabyte> cristobal, Brazilian Portuguese. I'm updating Ubuntu's manual to 14.10 in Brazilian Portuguese based on the 13.10 manual.
[23:01] <cristobal> great one sec
[23:01] <Megabyte> cristobal, The Lanchpad / Latex system is overcomplicated and too complex, so I ditched it altogether and I'm using Libreoffice with styles to get it translated
[23:02] <cristobal> okay i am back sorry phone :P
[23:03] <cristobal> hum you know i also speak other languages english being my seccond but for some languages that could be a real pain in the .... hehe but i think its a good idea in general :p
[23:03] <daftykins> guys this is lovely, but also off topic
[23:04] <Megabyte> daftykins, it's not, really. Users themselves would benefit from glossaries.
[23:04] <cristobal> true there is no one asking nothing boring to watch people just get out
[23:04] <sisterFister> so i've got a fresh install of lubuntu and firefox doesn't have flash player installed. how do i cmd get this fast ?
[23:04] <daftykins> Megabyte: it is :) you're very welcome to discuss non-support in #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:05] <daftykins> !flash | sisterFister
[23:05] <Megabyte> daftykins, aren't you being overly strict?
[23:05] <Megabyte> It's just as cristobal said... there's no one asking anything...
[23:05] <daftykins> Megabyte: no.
[23:06] <daftykins> i don't care :) channel rules are channel rules
[23:06] <deddisk> I have a bash application on the tip of my tongue - it is specifically used for setting wallpapers - it had all the options of feh with additions like adjusting brightness and contrast and even blurring, if I recall right - can anyone help me remmeber what this application was?
[23:07] <Megabyte> daftykins, this is why Ubuntu can't have good stuff, you know. If I say Launcher is overcomplicated and we should replace it with odt templates, where do I "forward" this complaint to? #ubunt-no-launchpad?
[23:07] <wilee-nilee> deddisk, ubuntu tweak?
[23:07] <daftykins> Megabyte: you realise this channel is full of volunteers so discussing it here goes nowhere too, right?
[23:07] <cristobal> dddisk; xbacklight?
[23:07] <deddisk> wilee-nilee: no.. it was something with an "x" in the name, I think
[23:08] <wilee-nilee> deddisk, ah bash?
[23:08] <daftykins> Megabyte: you also realise how pathetic and futile your arguing back, is? :)
[23:08] <deddisk> cristobal: I don't think that was it...actually i've never heard of that one before at all
[23:08] <e^> deddisk: compizconfig settings manager?
[23:09] <deddisk> wilee-nilee: yeah, it was a bash application - I used to use it in my .xinitrc with a script, but I lost it somehow and because I never changed it, I forgot what it was
[23:09] <wilee-nilee> deddisk, You describe a gui bash is a text.
[23:10] <deddisk> wilee-nilee: wait what? nono, the applications et wallpaper from bash, like 'feh --bg-fill wallpaper.jpg' only this one had controls fro brightness and contrast adjustments
[23:10] <deddisk> s/et/set
[23:10] <deddisk> wilee-nilee: it's on the tip of my tongue too :(
[23:11] <e^> if you can remember part of the name or some description, use apt-cache search <app name or description>
[23:11] <deddisk> wilee-nilee: bight and contrast adjustments were controlled with arguments, not a gui
[23:11] <wilee-nilee> deddisk, I have no idea.
[23:11] <e^> deddisk: xstarfish ?
[23:12] <deddisk> e^: thats the thing :( all I can remember is it contained the letter "x" - I started by looking for something prefixed with xset or something from the xfce packages, but I just can't find it
[23:14] <wilee-nilee> deddisk> wilee-nilee: bight and contrast adjustments were controlled with arguments, not a gui There is a gui for this, your wording is a job of deciphering to be honest
[23:15] <wilee-nilee> are gui as a plural
[23:15] <deddisk> wilee-nilee: sorry, I'm trying to recall featurs to a program I rarely used
[23:16] <wilee-nilee> deddisk, And criticizing me, after to at the least get what you want understood. good luck with that.
[23:16] <TJ-> deddisk: Was is sxiv ?
[23:18] <sisterFister> so...flash player keeps crashing and all i did was sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[23:19] <deddisk> deddisk: i can't tell if i offended you or not, but I didn't mean to
[23:20] <daftykins> sisterFister: is your system stable? try other flash content, maybe what you're trying to use is bad
[23:20] <deddisk> TJ-: no it wasn't sxiv
[23:21] <asmodeus> Hi, I ran the upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 and was left with "file not found \ grub rescue>", so i booted from a cd and did the boot repair, as suggested somewhere in the Ubuntu forums, now it boots to the splash screen and says it's checking disk 1 of 1, 0% complete, press c to cancel.  After an hour of the hd light being solidly on, I hit 'c', and it still says it's checking disk 1 of 1, 0% complete, but I no longer have the op
[23:21] <wilee-nilee> asmodeus, Did you save the bootinfo summary?
[23:22] <sisterFister> daftykins: i've tried three websites.
[23:22] <asmodeus> wilee-nilee: I have no idea, when would I have had that option?
[23:22] <wilee-nilee> asmodeus, In the popup that says save the url.
[23:22] <daftykins> sisterFister: right but are they legit?
[23:23] <sisterFister> youtube, pandora, grooveshark lol
[23:23] <daftykins> so... memtest time? :)
[23:23] <asmodeus> wilee-nilee: I don't remember any popup about a url.  Would that have been when I did the boot repair?
[23:23] <deddisk> I think I found it O.o hsetroot, I probably thought there was an x in the name because of "hset" being so similar to "xset" which is a lot more common
[23:23] <sisterFister> lol, is that the next step daftykins ?
[23:24] <ResupineEarth> hello, please can someone tell me an way to merge partitions
[23:24] <deddisk> thanks all for the help :)
[23:24] <cristobal> live cd gparted?
[23:24] <wilee-nilee> asmodeus, Yes it is a auto popup this is an important part of bootrepair in general for diagnoses.
[23:25] <daftykins> sisterFister: it'd be my next move, if you're unsure of the reliability of your system
[23:25] <sisterFister> does the spotify desktop client use flash?
[23:25] <sisterFister> i'm pretty confident in the reliability of the system daftykins
[23:25] <daftykins> sisterFister: well, all memtest costs is time
[23:25] <ResupineEarth> thanks i have used gparted to delete a reformat a partition but i would like to merge the partition into 1
[23:25] <ResupineEarth> and i cant seem to figure out how to do it
[23:25] <deddisk> ResupineEarth: you just copy the files from one partition to the other and delete the extra partition
[23:26] <deddisk> ResupineEarth: you need to make sure you preserve permissions if they are important system files in the second partition
[23:26] <cristobal> ResupineEarth: http://askubuntu.com/questions/269045/how-to-merge-an-unallocated-partition-with-an-extended-partition
[23:26] <wilee-nilee> asmodeus, The bootrepair has a button just to run it alone if you see the bootrepair app again.
[23:26] <deddisk> ResupineEarth: you also need o make sure you have adequate space on the single partition you are moving to
[23:26] <ResupineEarth> ok thankyou #
[23:26] <asmodeus> wilee-nilee: hrm...I can run it again
[23:26] <deddisk> ResupineEarth: there is no "merge it for me, please" button, unfortunately :(
[23:27] <nashant> ok, a little advice please. I think my (under 6 months old) Samsung 840 Evo might have killed itself somehow. All of a sudden I started getting "buffer io error on device dm-2" and when I tried to run any command all I would get is 'bus error'. Will it definitely be the drive, or could it be the SATA controller I just bought?
[23:27] <deddisk> ResupineEarth: too many issues would arise with file systems and such to automate such a task in linux
[23:27] <wilee-nilee> asmodeus, Just run the bootinfo summary look closely it is on that first screen you see when you fire it up.
[23:27] <ResupineEarth> ok thanks deddisk
[23:27] <ResupineEarth> lol
[23:28] <daftykins> nashant: is all data from it backed up?
[23:28] <deddisk> ^^
[23:28] <daftykins> nashant: i can guarantee you that the #1 diagnostic step from any SSD manufacturer is to secure erase it and try again
[23:28] <TJ-> nashant: what's the (new) controller?
[23:28] <nashant> daftykins, not at all. But it's not a huge worry, I've just set up ubuntu, xen and a few VMs
[23:29] <nashant> I have 2 of them in there, and it won't even boot past the SATA controller
[23:29] <daftykins> nashant: it's definitely always good to rule out layers of obfuscation, why not plug one directly into the motherboard SATA? were they in RAID-0?
[23:29] <TJ-> nashant: which Ubuntu version and architecture ?
[23:30] <wilee-nilee> ResupineEarth, Careful with the idea of merge that link is not really a merge either, linux does not merge in this context.
[23:30] <nashant> trusty server amd64
[23:30] <sisterFister> restart didn't fix flash
[23:30] <TJ-> nashant: and the (new) controller make/model ?
[23:30] <nashant> daftykins: because later linux kernels won't recognise various marvell controllers
[23:31] <nashant> TJ-, it's a.....
[23:31] <TJ-> nashant: or better still, the controller's PCI vendor:product ID from "lspci -nn"
[23:31] <daftykins> nashant: not sure how that answer applies to anything i said
[23:32] <nashant> TJ-, Syba with an ASM1061 chipset
[23:32] <TJ-> daftykins: I think nashant's answer was to "why not plug one directly into the motherboard SATA" ... the implication being, the on-board controller is Marvell
[23:32] <TJ-> nashant: let us have the PCI ID
[23:33] <nashant> daftykins: You're right, I'll unplug the other 6 drives and check with the main sata controller on my board
[23:33] <nashant> TJ-, I would love to, but it's half past midnight and my girlfriend would kill me if I started opening up the server right now
[23:34] <TJ-> nashant: Why would you open the server?
[23:34] <nashant> because it won't boot
[23:34] <nashant> I'll need to open it up, switch sata ports around, and boot it
[23:34] <TJ-> nashant: Ahhh... have you tried starting it from a LiveISO on USB ?
[23:35] <nashant> Can't even do that. The SATA controller forces itself upon you, and you have to wait for it to recognise the disks before you can get past that
[23:35] <nashant> A bit annoying really
[23:35] <nashant> I'm really hoping it's the controller
[23:36] <nashant> or am I?
[23:36] <daftykins> nashant + TJ- - ah, marvell as an only onboard controller, that's rare. sorry, my eyes are gone tonight :)
[23:36] <nashant> I'm not sure which would be less convenient
[23:37] <nashant> daftykins: Nope, not only. Just additional
[23:37] <wilee-nilee> daftykins, more salt and lime. ;)
[23:37] <nashant> It has a 6 port ATI controller and a 2 port shitty Marvell
[23:38] <nashant> Why even bother?
[23:38] <TJ-> nashant: here's the problem... and a workaround:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/228927/boot-failure-failed-command-identify-packet-device
[23:38] <TJ-> nashant: key bit: "...ASMedia ASM1061 chip for two SATA3 ports. I had a DVD drive in one of them and got the error. Switched the DVD drive to a SATA port handled by the Z77 chip and everything works."
[23:39] <daftykins> mmm, cheap ASMedia to blame perhaps
[23:39] <TJ-> nashant: The reason is, according to a Linux kernel bug report, the ASM1061 doesn't handle ATAPI commands (used by optical disks) so when it is queried at boot-time it freezes up
[23:40] <nashant> TJ- I don't think that's it. Everything was working fine, then all of a sudden...nada
[23:40] <nashant> Everything was booting, running, no problems. Then 30 mins ago it just stopped spitting out I/O errors
[23:41] <nashant> stopped, spitting out
[23:41] <nashant> the comma is very important there
[23:41] <daftykins> latest firmware on these SSDs i take it?
[23:42] <nashant> errr, nope
[23:43] <TJ-> nashant: How long have you had the controller installed?
[23:43] <nashant> hmm
[23:43] <nashant> 2 days
[23:45] <TJ-> nashant: The ATAPI probes of the ports looks the most likely; other's report the same Bus Error with that configuration
[23:45] <thecha> HI:ubuntu configure port forwarding to open UDP 20595? how to be done?
[23:46] <daftykins> thecha: port forwarding is done on a NAT router typically, not the OS.
[23:46] <clevas> Does ubuntu support dual with win 8.1?
[23:46] <nashant> Tomorrow I'll try switching stuff about, update the firmware, modify that udev line, etc. Cheers for the help TJ-, daftykins
[23:46] <nashant> bloody thing
[23:46] <daftykins> clevas: yes
[23:46] <nashant> I've literally just put it back behind the TV and now I've gotta pull it out again
[23:46] <daftykins> nashant: good luck :)
[23:47] <nashant> Hopefully a night spent off might do something
[23:47] <nashant> Cheers daftykins!
[23:48] <TJ-> nashant: if you can boot it to the grub menu (hold down Shift key), you can start the Recovery mode. I'd recommend adding "init=/bin/bash" to the kernel command-line before starting Recovery, to prevent udev, then you can get in, edit/remove the udev rule, and reboot
[23:49] <luckybunny> clevas: yes
[23:49] <luckybunny> I have 2 dualboots with 14.04/8.1
[23:50] <luckybunny> the laptop is doing less well, because I'm having issues getting the ubuntu to work properly, but the desktop accepted windows no problem
[23:51] <chreuben> Has anyone in here used cgroups (control groups) at all? Was it worth the trouble?
[23:52] <clevas> luckybunny they must have paid MS
[23:52] <thecha> so how do i portforward
[23:52] <thecha> i am new to ubuntu
[23:53] <clevas> i dont have secureboot does that matter?
[23:54] <luckybunny> clevas: the laptop issue isn't with the actual dualboot. it's the fact that the only way I can actually get ubuntu running now is without GLX
[23:54] <luckybunny> all because I tried to install the ATI drivers
[23:54] <luckybunny> had to remove it
[23:54] <clevas> Im happy i found one that'll dual boot. I couldnt come across anymore
[23:54] <luckybunny> but now even the mesa driver screws things up lol
[23:55] <luckybunny> clevas: you can dualboot with secureboot, but you have to disable it in BIOS
[23:56] <wilee-nilee> clevas> luckybunny they must have paid MS Bad comment without a context, yes money was part of making the shim fpr the secure boot.
[23:56] <daftykins> luckybunny: ubuntu is signed, it shouldn't need disabling
[23:56] <luckybunny> I might re-enable mine then
[23:57] <daftykins> luckybunny: as long as you have the signed kernel and signed grub efi package on
[23:57] <daftykins> *GRUB
[23:57] <luckybunny> just to check it out
[23:58] <dirty__> hey guys just installed 14.10 and its knocked the scroller on my touchpad out of action any guidance on regaining it?
[23:59] <TJ-> dirty__: support for 14.10 is in #ubuntu+1
[23:59] <dirty__> tyvm friend laters
[23:59] <luckybunny> I asked in here about my graphics issue. I spoke to a guy who was pretty sure it was the drivers, which I removed and it seemed ok... but then he remembered that I'd mentioned it briefly shows a CLI login before blackscreening, and thought it might have been something else