[00:09] <qman> qhartman: all the subsystems in between are built to pass on synchronous writes the best way they can, so if everything's working as it should, those sync writes go all the way to disk (or cache/log disk)
[00:10] <qman> anything less results in data loss during a crash condition
[00:12] <qman> and the more links in the chain, the more important it is for that to actually happen
[00:29] <Tung> i need a method of scouring my hardware for a cd/dvdburner without knowing if its plugged in or not
[00:30] <Tung> it doesnt show up in sudo fdisk -l
[00:30] <Tung> should it even though it contains a blank DVD?
[00:31] <Tung> wodim --devices and wodim -scanbus show nothing
[00:31] <sarnold> Tung: maybe lshw -class disk  ?
[00:31] <qman> cat /proc/partitions
[00:31] <qman> mine is sr0
[00:32] <sarnold> Tung: dmesg output may also show something, maybe look for 'sr' (it's been a while  since I've had a cd writer..)
[00:32] <Tung> ah good found it with the lshw command
[00:33] <Tung> logical name of sr0
[00:33] <Tung> sweet thanks!
[00:42] <Tung> congratulations, its a DVD!
[00:42] <Tung> :D
[01:29] <oste> i am trying to install php 5.6 but i am not sure what the final steps are
[01:29] <oste> i ran the steps listed here https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/php5-5.6
[01:29] <oste> at the end it says “Now you're ready to start installing software from the PPA!"
[01:29] <oste> how do i do that??
[01:29] <cfhowlett> !ppa|oste
[01:30] <oste> i get that
[01:30] <oste> just not sure what step to take to get php 5.6 in place of the current
[01:31] <Tung> a voodoo witchdoctor dance
[01:31] <sarnold> oste: did you run the apt-add-repository command yet?
[01:31] <oste> yes i sure did
[01:32] <oste> pretty sure its all in place
[01:32] <oste> but php 5.5 is still being used
[01:32] <sarnold> oste: okay, good; apt-get update, then apt-get install php5 apache2  -- I think the default would take them from the ppa rather than The Archive
[01:33] <oste> damn pretty sure i already did all that
[01:33] <sarnold> oste: did you restart apache2?
[01:34] <oste> yeah
[01:34] <sarnold> oste: can you pastebin the dpkg -l 'apache2*' 'php*' output? (the pastebinit tool can help)
[01:36] <oste> looks like this http://pastebin.com/5GUuh24R
[01:38] <sarnold> oste: hrm. you're running the saucy versions of apache2 and php5; if the ~utopic and ~trusty and ~precise bits in his package versions are to be trusted, he doesn't have any saucy versions
[01:38] <oste> :(
[01:39] <oste> out of luck?
[01:40] <sarnold> oste: you -could- try replacing 'saucy' with 'trusty' in your /etc/apt/sources.list.d/whatever file for that specific ppa
[01:40] <sarnold> oste: you might need to then use apt-get install php5/trusty apache2/trusty -- I haven't tried mixing ppa versions before..
[01:41] <oste> eeks
[01:41] <sarnold> (don't forget the apt-get update after changing the version in your sources.list)
[01:41] <oste> would be better to get on trusty?
[01:41] <oste> that is after saucy right?
[01:41] <sarnold> very good idea :) saucy support ends next month.
[01:41] <oste> cool
[01:41] <oste> is there an easy way to do that?
[01:42] <sarnold> do-release-upgrade should walk you through it
[01:42] <oste> awesome - then hopefully that ppa will work
[01:44] <sarnold> you may need to re-run the apt-add-repository once you've upgraded
[01:45] <dw1> i got an unattended-upgrades reboot required email the other day and cant remember if i rebooted.. how can i check if i still need reboot?
[01:47] <sarnold> dw1: 'need' is a bit of a strong term. the recent kernel security update contains a fix for a local unprivileged user -> kernel mode vulnerability, so if you don't trust your users or your services, you will want to upgrade if your uname doesn't match the highest-versioned kernel installed (dpkg -l 'linux*')
[01:47] <dw1> right
[01:48] <sarnold> rebooting is also the easiest way to get services to use the new openssl packages, but you could also restart by hand whichever services are exposed to the world
[01:49] <dw1> that seems to be what triggered it
[01:49] <dw1> just cant remember if i rebooted
[01:49] <sarnold> uptime will tell you when you last rebooted
[01:49] <dw1> ahh yes
[01:49] <dw1> brb. :)
[04:37] <ethermonk> i have installed php5-mcrypt but im still getting errors saying mcrypt is not installed from framework installs (and phpmyadmin)
[04:42] <ethermonk> i have purge the config and reinstalled and issue persists
[04:51] <Sachiru> What's the name of the app that provides a GUI to control users and groups settings in Gnome?
[05:07] <oste> sarnold are you still around?
[05:07] <oste> i set up a fresh instance running trusty
[05:08] <oste> still cant get php 5.6 after following the steps here https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/php5-5.6
[05:09] <ethermonk> i cant get mcrypt to work
[05:11] <Tung> my system is booting up painfully slowly after installing and booting from a xen kernel
[05:11] <Tung> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Setting%20up%20Xen%20and%20XAPI%20%28XenAPI%29%20on%20Ubuntu%20Server%2012.04%20LTS%20and%20Managing%20it%20With%20Citrix%20XenCenter%20or%20OpenXenManager
[05:12] <Tung> while following this tutorial
[05:25] <Sachiru> Scenario is this: I have two groups, [EDT] and [EDT-Admin]. I want members of [EDT] to have a personal folder in (share) that only they have access to, and all personal folders in (share) are granted full r/w/x access to [EDT-Admin], but not [EDT]. Is it possible to do such?
[05:26] <Sachiru> The caveat is that members of [EDT-Admin] are members of [EDT] as well.
[05:30] <oste> nvm on the ppa issue forgot to run apt-get install php5
[05:31] <ethermonk> oste, can you test php5-mcrypt for me?
[05:31] <oste> i have not used that lib before
[05:31] <oste> but i can run a command or two if you have it handy
[05:52] <ethermonk> oste, im trying to install this but i cant get past the requirement check because of mcrypt: http://www.opencart.com/?route=download/download
[06:28] <Tung> is it a double raid1 if i setup hardware raid1 in an intel bios and then setup raid1 in ubuntu?
[06:29] <Tung> fdisk sees 2 disks instead of one volume after matching the two disks in bios to each other
[06:29] <Tung> http://ascend4.org/Installing_Raid_1_on_Existing_Ubuntu_Server
[06:29] <Tung> using this tutorial
[06:38] <Tung> (note i have no intention of wanting a double raid1, was just wondering why fdisk can see 2 disks and not 1, it aint fooled)
[06:53] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:03] <Tung> good afternoon lordievader
[07:04] <lordievader> Hey Tung, how are you?
[07:05] <Tung> suffering from memory loss, cant remember console commands that often
[07:05] <Tung> df du dh whatever
[07:05] <Tung> mount this that way bla bla bla
[07:06] <Tung> feels like im waving my hands in the air
[07:06] <Tung> chanting spells from books
[07:06] <Tung> and yourself?
[07:07] <Tung> also reading up on the reiserFS
[07:07] <Tung> and synching a newly created raid partition
[07:17] <lordievader> Tung: Use them enough and you'll remember. I'm reinstalling OS'es on my laptop.
[07:18] <soren> Tung: Sounds like your hardware raid is fake.
[07:19] <Tung> soren: nods I disbanded it and am using linux software raid
[07:19] <soren> Tung: Good call.
[07:21] <Sachiru> Query: Assume a folder has 055 permissions, can root see said folder?
[07:21] <soren> Sachiru: Yes.
[07:22] <soren> Sachiru: All the various restrictions don't apply to root.
[07:22] <lordievader> Sachiru: It is very rare for root not to see/modify anything.
[07:40] <bekks> Sachiru: root can and will see everything.
[07:40] <bekks> Sachiru: you cannot hide things from root.
[07:40] <Sachiru> Thanks
[07:41] <Sachiru> Sigh
[07:41] <Sachiru> Having difficulty with samba and permissions
[07:41] <Sachiru> At first I thought I solved the samba issue with setfacls, turns out ZFS on linux does not support POSIX ACLs
[09:14] <sergey_> I just installed Ubuntu server 14.04 32bit. My system freezes while shutting down or reboot. Last message on screen: "Stopping System V runlevel compatibility". How to fix it?
[10:28] <bekks> sergey_: how long did/do you wait then?
[11:06] <sergey_> bekks: an hour
[11:08] <sergey_> bekks: It happened before and after apt-get updade/upgrade
[11:15] <sergey_> uname -a
[11:15] <sergey_> Linux svr 3.13.0-29-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jun 4 21:02:19 UTC 2014 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:17] <gry> probably it's intentional? what command are you using to shut it down?
[11:20] <sergey_> gry: I tried: sudo reboot, poweroff, shutdown -h(r) now all the same
[11:20] <gry> interesting
[11:21] <gry> is it in a vm or on a physical computer you're staring at?
[11:22] <sergey_> its on old laptop Acer TravelMate 2410, on VM same installation works perfect
[11:23] <sergey_> gry: I really need to get it work...
[11:24] <gry> does dmesg or /var/log/kern.log have any useful hints about it?
[11:24] <gry> I'm sort of useless here as I've got little experience personally but these two are where I'd look first
[11:28] <sergey_> gry: I don't know how much it useful. Can you take a look, please? Here is dmesg http://pastebin.com/wiGcNauV
[11:31] <sergey_> gry: kern.log https://www.dropbox.com/s/gp0s4dmnwwqijwf/kern.log
[11:33] <sergey_> gry: laptop has its latest BIOS firmware installed
[11:45] <gry> does 'sudo shutdown now' make any difference?
[11:49] <sergey_> gry: I executed it. After "Stopping System V runlevel compatibility" it dropped me to root shell, I see "root@svr:~#"
[11:49] <gry> ouch
[11:50] <gry> I apologize, someone else needs to look at it - I have a 14.04 desktop install and it does exactly this and I'm more or less a newbie so I can't give any advice
[11:50] <sergey_> gry: no problem, thanks for your help and time
[13:56] <dw1> remove items, such as outdated kernels autoremoved, remain in dpkg -l with flags 'rc' - will they ever disappear from there?
[13:56] <dw1> removed*
[13:56] <Patrickdk> sure, if you use purge
[13:56] <Patrickdk> removed doesn't remove everything
[13:56] <dw1> yeah
[13:57] <dw1> just seems silly to keep them forever
[13:57] <Patrickdk> why? it needs to know
[13:57] <dw1> hmm perhaps
[13:57] <Patrickdk> remove kills the program and libs, but keeps the data and config files
[13:57] <Patrickdk> how else will it know it left those behind? if it didn't track that?
[13:59] <dw1> i jus tima gine there will be a point when there will be 100 removed kernel remnants
[13:59] <dw1> just imagine* .. wtf ;)
[13:59] <Patrickdk> so?
[14:01] <dw1> k ill stop pointlessly micromanaging things :p
[14:01] <dw1> for now...
[14:19] <Pupeno> can locate find files by owner and group?
[14:22] <gry> no, but find can
[14:35] <gry> 00:24:07 <Pupeno:#ubuntu> can locate find files by owner and group?
[14:35] <gry> 00:24:33 <Pupeno:#ubuntu-server> can locate find files by owner and group?
[14:35] <gry> please don't cross-post in the future
[16:32] <xperia> hi. i have installed vsftp and i am able to access the uploaded files over the webbrowser using a ftp:// url however when i try to boot with the FTP Files a PC over PXE i am getting always the error tftp timeout message? How can i Fix this Problem?
[16:34] <andol> xperia: ftp != tftp
[16:35] <xperia> andol: thanks for the answer. does that mean it is not possible to use vsftp for netbooting?
[16:38] <andol> xperia: Well, at least for the initial pxe boot step you'll need to get your kernel etc by way of tftp. Possible that ftp, http or something else might fill a purpose in a later step.
[16:39] <xperia> okay thanks for the answer andol. will switch over then to tftp-hpa and try it out now
[16:50] <xperia> i installed tftp-hpa now adjusted the tftp directory in the config and established a connection to the tftp server on the local lan by using the command line and tryed after this to fetch/get a test file but it fails for some strange reason. asking me why. has anybody a suggestion how to solve this problem?
[19:46] <bitbyte> hey guys ive got a strange server error if I pastebin the error can some one take a look at it
[19:47] <lordievader> bitbyte: State the problem, perhaps someone is around who can help you.
[19:47] <bitbyte> http://pastebin.com/7zsh1kr3      its complaining that / is using 94.6 % out of 94.04 size on root
[19:48] <lordievader> bitbyte: Is it?
[19:48] <bitbyte> I’m not too certain where to start to check it to be fair
[19:48] <lordievader> bitbyte: df -h
[19:48] <bitbyte> it says it has /dev/mapper/usbc01--vg-root     95G   90G     0 100% /
[19:49] <lordievader> bitbyte: There you go, your root-fs is full.
[19:49] <bitbyte> is there a way to break it down
[19:49] <bitbyte> to whats taking the space up
[19:50] <lordievader> bitbyte: du -hs /*
[19:52] <bitbyte> mmmmm I think I may have messed up a LVM which has been downloading data
[19:53] <bitbyte> I do appreciate the help even though im useless >..<
[19:53] <bitbyte> the output  I get from the above is : http://pastebin.com/yLLJsphT
[19:54] <lordievader> Is /var a separate partition? Else that is likely to be your problem.
[19:56] <bitbyte> ermmm no var is included
[19:57] <lordievader> That one is tatking 88G of your 100G partition ;)
[19:58] <bitbyte> mmmm I wonder whats taking up all that space because the drive only has the OS on it
[19:59] <lordievader> bitbyte: du -hs /var/*
[19:59] <dasjoe> bitbyte: du -hs /var/*
[19:59] <lordievader> dasjoe: Beat you to it :P
[19:59] <dasjoe> Once is enough, though
[19:59] <dasjoe> :)
[20:00] <bitbyte> well what a suprise seems to be plexmediaserver
[20:04] <bitbyte> thanks for the help guys much appreciated
[20:05] <bitbyte> i just need to work out how to get plex to store meta data on my LVM
[20:05] <bitbyte> well somewhere with more space
[20:07] <lordievader> bitbyte: Make an lv just for Plex?
[20:08] <bitbyte> lordievader thats a good idea but may need to get a new drive for it
[20:09] <lordievader> Running out of space on your vg?
[20:12] <bitbyte> well at the moment I have two LVM’s one for main disk holding the os on 120 ssd and then second tieing in 3 platter drives for 2.8TB
[20:13] <bitbyte> http://pastebin.com/eyNSRyC2
[20:17] <bitbyte> lordievader much appreciated for the help this evening i’m going to have to play with plex
[20:26] <lordievader> Have fun, bitbyte
[20:27] <bitbyte> im sure I will ^___^
[23:20] <pr3d4t0r> Greetings.
[23:20]  * pr3d4t0r eyes whaley.
[23:21] <pr3d4t0r> Q. Is it safe to upgrade from 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS via command line?  We have server backups of everything relevant.  Thanks in advance for your recommendation.
[23:22]  * pr3d4t0r figures that any serious kinks would've been found out 2 months after release.
[23:23] <pr3d4t0r> I have both SSH and console access to the server, by the way.
[23:35] <sheptard> pr3d4t0r: I wouldn't
[23:35] <sheptard> pr3d4t0r: unless you have some strong reason to upgrade to 14.04