[00:00] <luckybunny> now I'm curious, becauseI found out it wasn't exactly ok without gfx drivers, and because I still get that brief flash of a CLI login before blackscreen, I'm really curious what the fix was
[00:01] <luckybunny> something about VGA modes
[00:02] <SenorSenpai> hey guys how can I make my home/documents home/pictures etc become home/dropbox/documents etc?
[00:02] <luckybunny> basically, ubuntu boots, pretty much completely. However, where it would normally go to lightdm or a CLI login, it usually briefly flashes up a CLI login before blackscreening
[00:03] <luckybunny> and trying ctrl-alt-f1/2/3/etc does nothing
[00:03] <wilee-nilee> SenorSenpai, Make a folder in the dropbox folder and point what you want when adding to it.
[00:03] <luckybunny> I have to hit the power button before anything else will appear.. the shutdown sequence scripts
[00:04] <wilee-nilee> adding to thiose folders
[00:04] <TJ-> luckybunny: That sounds like a kernel mode-setting driver is taking over the consoles
[00:04] <SenorSenpai> can you define better "point what you want when adding to it" wilee-nilee?
[00:04] <luckybunny> I'm booting with nomodeset
[00:05] <wilee-nilee> SenorSenpai, Sure if you have a save of a picture for example make sure it is going to the folder in dropbox.
[00:05] <SenorSenpai> well that would be great but I was looking for better integration
[00:05] <luckybunny> but yeah... I'm leaning in the same direction, that something pretty basic is either starting and not working, or failing to start
[00:05] <TJ-> luckybunny: if a proprietary driver is still in-place, it might not honour the nomodeset parameter.
[00:05] <SenorSenpai> like if I opened /home/pictures it shows my files from dropbox's dropbox/photos
[00:06] <wilee-nilee> SenorSenpai, I'm not sure you can do else really, dropbox is a 3rd party so integration would be in the configs or a syslink maybe.
[00:06] <SenorSenpai> ^ is what i want
[00:06] <SenorSenpai> i see
[00:06] <wilee-nilee> SenorSenpai, Those extra clicks wearing you fingers out. ;)
[00:06] <wilee-nilee> your*
[00:06] <robotdevil> would someone be able to assist me for a moment, it requires someone that has libdvdcss and vlc installed, need them to just test for two minutes if vlc will backup a dvd, http://www.wikihow.com/Rip-DVDs-with-VLC scroll down to method two, it will start the file soon and you can check it in the directory you select
[00:07] <robotdevil> its crashes here steady
[00:09] <wilee-nilee> SenorSenpai, I meant symlink, my mistake. ;) Just a guess though.
[00:11] <SenorSenpai> symlink might do it actually
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> SenorSenpai, Yeah, let us know.
[00:16] <MertenNor> Hey.. can someone help me with a probelm I have xD
[00:16] <wilee-nilee> MertenNor, Ste it for help to the channel. ;)
[00:16] <wilee-nilee> State*
[00:16] <MertenNor> here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Supraball/comments/27etoe/error_when_trying_to_run_server_on_linux/
[00:17] <mexi_d3> robotdevil: Can I test that on an image or must it be an actual DVD (I don't have an optical drive)?
[00:18] <cristobal> chmod should do it seems what you try to run need admin privileges   right chat?
[00:19] <cristobal> thats to mertennor
[00:19] <robotdevil> mexi_d3: im using a actual disc
[00:19] <wilee-nilee> MertenNor, #winehq maybe?
[00:19] <robotdevil> an*
[00:19] <MertenNor> cristobal I did chmod but still wont work..
[00:20] <cristobal> then have problems with wine need some files on some windows folder XD will be a pain
[00:20] <mexi_d3> MertenNor: Have you done the linux setup detailed here? http://www.supraball.net/index.php/faq
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> cristobal, You can tab complete nicks here.
[00:20] <cristobal> XD
[00:20] <cristobal> wilee-nilee, test
[00:20] <cristobal> nice thanks
[00:20] <MertenNor> mexi_d3 yes I have.
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> cristobal, Oh yeah.
[00:21] <robotdevil> oh I might have got it
[00:22] <Corvette> I'm having an issue with Skype in 14.04. Everything works but the chat window, which does not appear no matter what. I cannot look at what people are sending me or sending me back via the chat window. I can only do video calls.
[00:22] <wilee-nilee> robotdevil, Cool, however there are a number of rippers, one installed already brasero
[00:24] <wilee-nilee> Corvette, This a ubuntu repos install of skype?
[00:24] <Corvette> wilee-nilee no it isn't I suppose I should install that one
[00:24] <Corvette> it's the official one
[00:24] <wilee-nilee> !skype | Corvette just info
[00:25] <Corvette> wilee-nilee would you suggest I apt-get purge skype and then reinstall from the software center
[00:25]  * wilee-nilee Salutes Corvette and says "yes sir it is the official!!!!"
[00:25] <MertenNor> hm.. can anyone help ? xD
[00:25] <wilee-nilee> Corvette, I would purge it yes.
[00:26] <wilee-nilee> !patience | MertenNor
[00:26] <robotdevil> seems it something to do with the caching
[00:27] <wilee-nilee> MertenNor, People generally help if they know, crack a cold one and we will see eh. ;)
[00:27] <Corvette> lol wilee-nilee
[00:27] <Corvette> skype is not in the repos
[00:27] <wilee-nilee> Corvette, You need the canonical partners repo olpen.
[00:27] <wilee-nilee> open*
[00:28] <wilee-nilee> Corvette, Go to software and update 2nd tab and make sure it's ticked, run an update then install.
[00:28] <Neo31> hellopat, i have a blank screen when logging into unity. i can see only the background wallpaper. Any help please?
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> Neo31, Any info leading to this E.g fresh install, drivers added...etc.
[00:29] <cristobal> guys you can use webrtc just give the link to the person intended to talk with faster and more secure  one sample you can use is this: https://apprtc.appspot.com
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> Corvette, software and updates app
[00:30] <Corvette> wilee-nilee I enabled the partners and still no dice
[00:30] <Neo31> wilee-nilee, i have installed nvidia edgers repo and bumblebee, but i have removed the installed packages repositories and reinstalled nouveau and did nvidia-xconfig
[00:31] <wilee-nilee> Corvette,  might be the independent repos. That be the 3rd party place
[00:31] <wilee-nilee> Neo31, Cool, just getting your info on the channel, not an area I can really help with.
[00:32] <Corvette> lol I think it's kinda funny how canonical calls microsoft 'partners'
[00:32] <cristobal> lol
[00:33] <Neo31> thanks anyway wilee-nilee I hope someone could help. it worked perfectly on 13.04 before i'm not sure what is the problem with 14.04
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> Corvette, At one time MS was one of the largest contributers to the linux kernels
[00:33] <Corvette> Really? Did they intend to make windows unix based?
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> Neo31, I think so, for this area it is pretty straight forward, I just have always had intel hardware.
[00:34] <Neo31> what is the intel driver to install ?
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> Corvette, No, it was just part of the deal I guess I don't know the exact reasons.
[00:34] <Neo31> i can get rid of the nvidia driver for now wilee-nilee
[00:34] <Corvette> wilee-nilee when I installed from the terminal after having enabled the right ppa it opened skype immediately (like it hadn't ever closed) I was already signed in, and I'm having the same problem
[00:34] <cristobal> wilee-nilee, no just they want their programs to run on linux servers
[00:35] <wilee-nilee> Corvette, Skype idles if not shut down I believe.
[00:35] <Corvette> wilee-nilee but I purged it
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> Corvette, if idling a purge does not shut down the running of it, kill it than open it.
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> if running , not running of*
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> Corvette, YOU can remove your whole desktop and it will run till you reboot or logout.
[00:37] <energizer> Hi! After upgrading to 14.04, my computer often can't connect to wifi even though it sees the network. Thoughts?
[00:38] <robotdevil> OK SO... if using vlc to backup a dvd you must have the cache high (im using 5000) (in more options) and disable dvd menus <---------------grrr
[00:38] <robotdevil> always a 600KB file till disabled
[00:38] <wilee-nilee> energizer, Yes, run lspci in the terminal find the wifi info and tell the channel what it is.
[00:38] <Corvette> wilee-nilee I did a killall skype, then purged it again, then reinstalled, then started it and I'm still logged in... why does it remember my user info
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> Corvette, Probably a skype config file in homes .config
[00:39] <Corvette> wilee-nilee should I delete that
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> Corvette, I would.
[00:39] <Corvette> because I'm still having the issue
[00:40] <energizer> wilee-nilee: it's a usb adapter, so i ran lsusb, and got Bus 002 Device 004: ID 0bda:8178 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8192CU 802.11n WLAN Adapter
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> Corvette, I Never use skype so for me it is just a google search exercise beyond this, others may be better help.
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> energizer, mmmm realtek in the words of David Letterman "I would not give it to a monkey on a rock" Can't help you myself, but important info for the channel to help.
[00:42] <energizer> wilee-nilee: oddly enough, i switched to the realtek usb adapter after recurrent problems with pci adapters. i could plug one of those in instead if you'd be able to give more info?
[00:43] <wilee-nilee> energizer, Every wifi stick I have tried plugged and worked, I would not mess with any other, they are cheap and lots on amazon confirming linux/ubuntu use.
[00:45] <wilee-nilee> energizer, In my mind this is an important issue that should just work, or it is a waste of time, unless that is all you can afford in the end.
[00:46] <energizer> wilee-nilee: maybe i'll just throw down for one of these? http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=wifi+usb
[00:48] <elitedeamon> hello
[00:48] <elitedeamon> can anyone help?
[00:49] <energizer> elitedeamon: what's the problem
[00:49] <wilee-nilee> energizer, I just added linux to your search, you could even add ubuntu. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss/178-3290543-3995563?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=wifi+usb+linux&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Awifi+usb+linux
[00:49] <nachtkriecher> how come my cron job is being logged in syslog
[00:49] <nachtkriecher> it's producing no output
[00:49] <elitedeamon> i made a bootable image on a usb thumb stick and tried to boot off of it and its panicing
[00:50] <cristobal> elitedeamon, had you try to connected by lan give a update then try again?
[00:50] <cristobal> it had helped me before :P
[00:50] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum | elitedeamon
[00:52] <konam> hi guys
[00:53] <elitedeamon> yeah you may aswell speak russian
[00:53] <elitedeamon> im a noob at this lol
[00:53] <energizer> wilee-nilee: ok ordered. thanks.
[00:53] <Corvette> I'm trying to see if my skype problem is coming from unity
[00:54] <Corvette> installing gnome shell. It's asking me to select gdm or lightdm wtf is the difference
[00:54] <konam> i have a problem, i installed nemo file manager and i realized that the changing of the wallpapers don't affect lightdm user wallpaper  (by default, lightdm changes the background to the one of the user selected in the list), but now the wallpaper isn't registered as changed even when setting the wallpaper in nautilus
[00:54] <elitedeamon> anyone good with error codes or what?
[00:54] <konam> this is on 13.04
[00:55] <daftykins> !13.04 | konam
[00:55] <daftykins> sorry, you have to upgrade
[00:55] <daftykins> Corvette: it shouldn't matter
[00:55] <daftykins> Corvette: they're kinda like the login managers
[00:56] <konam> 14.04 is buggy, regressive on many things regarding my dell inspiron which should be (and was) supported at least more reliably supported than most laptops
[00:57] <konam> i don't have to upgrade, just find support some place else :)
[00:57] <daftykins> what a ridiculous attitude
[00:58] <pakair> could nemo file manager be the issue?
[00:59] <pakair> http://www.noobslab.com/2013/10/nemo-file-manager-with-extensions-for.html
[01:00] <elitedeamon> can anyone tell me what this means? http://i.imgur.com/zmmQ8Mj.jpg
[01:01] <nachtkriecher> anybody know why cron is logging to my syslog?
[01:01] <nachtkriecher> ive got my command piping to /dev/null so
[01:01] <elitedeamon> hello?
[01:03] <pakair> elitedeamon, kernel panic on dmesg
[01:04] <elitedeamon> so what do i do?
[01:04] <daftykins> elitedeamon: first place to start is to md5 hash your downloaded ISO to see if it's corrupt and re-make your boot media to ensure it's ok
[01:04] <daftykins> next is to memtest your system to ensure it's stable, then to look into hardware incompatibilities
[01:04] <pakair> what daftykins said
[01:05] <daftykins> pakair: ^5
[01:05] <samthewildone> ...
[01:05] <elico> anyone here have worked with clustered storage ontop of ubuntu?
[01:06] <elitedeamon> i havent got a clue what any of that means dude haha sorry im kind of a noob but i want to get this sorted as im sick of windows lol
[01:06] <Corvette> In ubuntu 14.04 is there a way to revert to a previous version of Unity? The skype problems I'm having are coming from unity.
[01:06] <daftykins> !md5 | elitedeamon
[01:06] <elitedeamon> im learning
[01:07] <daftykins> elitedeamon: see the above, then how did you make install media? USB flash drive or did you burn a DVD?
[01:07] <elico> and in a different area: has anyone managed to use xrdp with gnome on 14.04?
[01:07] <elitedeamon> usb drive
[01:08] <daftykins> elitedeamon: ok, so check the download, then re-make the flash drive if it isn't good
[01:08] <elitedeamon> ok thank you :D
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> Corvette, This is unity in the install, no ppa's?
[01:10] <samthewildone> daftykins, you never told me that google chrome & java don't mix...
[01:10] <samthewildone> daftykins, I spent the whole day reading, configuring until one of the members said something about nanpi
[01:11] <daftykins> samthewildone: hah, i did say i could get it working on firefox.
[01:11] <daftykins> samthewildone: NPAPI, yes - google broke it afaik
[01:11] <daftykins> so i guess it's game over for chromium
[01:11] <daftykins> samthewildone: oh well, i bet you feel better for having learnt about it :)
[01:12] <samthewildone> well Im still using it, just use firefox when java is needed.
[01:12] <samthewildone> Even on my phone I use Chrome
[01:12] <Corvette> wilee-nilee yes it's stock unity
[01:12] <estudiante> f
[01:12] <Corvette> wilee-nilee can I get unity from 12.04 repos?
[01:13] <daftykins> samthewildone: ok
[01:13] <wilee-nilee> Corvette, This a s a guess seems more like a graphic issue, Try to see if it run in the guest, as a comparison, maybe even install lubuntu, and copy paste the lubuntu packages to a gedit, so you can remove if wanted.
[01:14] <Corvette> wilee-nilee when I run skype in gnome shell it works fine
[01:14] <wilee-nilee> Corvette, W don't support out of release install.
[01:14] <samthewildone> cool I can develop apps for ubuntu... didn't know that.
[01:14] <wilee-nilee> We*
[01:14] <samthewildone> then again they have an App store.
[01:15] <Corvette> wilee-nilee we? Do you work for canonical?
[01:15] <daftykins> samthewildone: this channel isn't for general conversation, it's for support questions alone. join #ubuntu-offtopic for other talk
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> Corvette, I use the shell myself with the cairo-dock at the bottom and synapse.
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> Corvette, No, that is funny though. ;)
[01:16] <e^> /whois e^
[01:16] <wilee-nilee> Corvette, The channels has basic parameters, and using out of release packages is not one of them.
[01:16] <Corvette> So wilee-nilee you would just suggest I use gnome shell and get over it?
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> Corvette, Not exactly, I can't every remember saying get over it on the channel, just muttering it to my cat. ;)
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> Corvette, I would say patience is the key is all.
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> Corvette, And not assuming it is the unity desktop itself but a part of it, or the underlying base.
[01:19] <Corvette> wilee-nilee I would not have ever presumed you'd have told me to get over it, I was asking if you would indeed suggest I do
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> Corvette, Heh, not really, it can probably be resolved, many use skype in unity, and I doubt your hardware is so exotic or old it is not possible.
[01:21] <Genome36_> hello i am trying to find my laptop quad cpu temperature using sensors-detect and no sensors where found
[01:21] <Corvette> wilee-nilee the question is, how to do it
[01:21] <Genome36_> it says that my laptop might use the ACPI instead of the os handling the temperature
[01:21] <Corvette> though I am surprised the channel would forbid recommending 12.04's version of unity because 12.04 is still supported
[01:21] <Genome36_> Lenovo G505S
[01:22] <wilee-nilee> Corvette, Well only an hour here into it, really depends on how hard you want to work, and or wait here and other support limks like askubuntu or the ubuntu forums. Keep the faith I would say.
[01:24] <wilee-nilee> ahh, new users, so much fun
[01:26] <HandsomeJack> How do i degrag ubuntu
[01:26] <streeter22> good question
[01:27] <cfhowlett> HandsomeJack degrag ubuntu?  can't be done.
[01:27] <HandsomeJack> there is a defragger for ext4
[01:27] <streeter22> defrag
[01:27] <HandsomeJack> i heard of it
[01:27] <HandsomeJack> !defrag
[01:27] <streeter22> wow
[01:27] <HandsomeJack> ?
[01:27] <cfhowlett> HandsomeJack de*frag* is rarely required as linux does an excellent job of internal filesystem maintenance
[01:28] <wilee-nilee> HandsomeJack, This a SSD?
[01:28] <HandsomeJack> yeah
[01:28] <someone1234> after I suspend my laptop one of my usb hubs don't work
[01:28] <wilee-nilee> !trim | HandsomeJack
[01:28] <HandsomeJack> 16GB
[01:29] <cybersketch> hey does anyone get transparent windows randomly in unity on 14.04
[01:29] <HandsomeJack> oh
[01:29] <cybersketch> some of my windows just blank out and stay blanked out until i tab back in.
[01:30] <yottabyte> hi guys, can I use the ubuntu install iso as a bootable live usb?
[01:30] <yottabyte> does it include flash for like youtube and stuff?
[01:30] <cfhowlett> !persistence|yottabyte you can do a persistence install to USB and add the codecs
[01:31] <cybersketch> anyone have a fix for blanking out windows in unity. im running nvidia drivers. tried every version.
[01:31] <yottabyte> ubottu: what happens if I just use the regular thing
[01:32] <HandsomeJack> !ops | YAY
[01:32] <HandsomeJack> !ops | YAY
[01:33] <streeter22> after connecting my blackberry once, boot-up always hangs until i press s for skip
[01:34] <streeter22> likely an init problem? hate to go in there mucking around
[01:34] <nachtkriecher> can someone explain to me why cron is logging my command, when it has no output and no errors
[01:35] <streeter22> !init
[01:38] <pakair> nachtkriecher, do a man cron, look for the -L loglevel parm
[01:39] <nachtkriecher> thanks pakair, how can i tell what loglevel it's doing right now?
[01:39] <pakair> nachtkriecher, default is 1
[01:42] <nachtkriecher> thank you
[01:42] <nachtkriecher> i never knew there was a cron command :P
[01:47] <streeter22> great channel; bye for now
[01:48] <SenorSenpai> hey guys, on gnome flashback ive set a panel to auto hide.. but its not showing up again, what can i do to bring it back?
[01:49] <samthewildone> i noticed that chrome crashes alot now aways
[01:52] <sydney> SenorSenpai: Not sure? Did you reinable it?
[01:54] <SenorSenpai> not sure how lol
[01:54] <SenorSenpai> i cant click the panel, and it wont unhide itself
[01:54] <sydney> SenorSenpai: Oh,its the main panel?
[01:56] <SenorSenpai> yea top panel
[01:57] <sydney> SenorSenpai: Can you open the terminal?
[01:57] <SenorSenpai> yes
[01:57] <SenorSenpai> ctrl + alt + t luckily
[01:58] <sydney> SenorSenpai: Ok,let me think.
[02:00] <dw1> SenorSenpai: hammer mode: http://askubuntu.com/questions/31849/how-do-i-restart-unity
[02:00] <sydney> SenorSenpai: open terminal and type this: gnome-control-center.
[02:01] <dw1> SenorSenpai: or logout/in
[02:01] <wilee-nilee> SenorSenpai, Have you installed the gnome-tweak tools
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> SenorSenpai, That should give you access to it's control on or off at the least
[02:02] <dw1> SenorSenpai: "killall unity-panel-service worked for me resetting the panel"
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> dw1, This is the fallback gnome n ot unity
[02:02] <dw1> ahh
[02:02] <dw1> killal gnome-panel then
[02:03] <wilee-nilee> dw1, alt-f2-r
[02:04] <yandexru> what intel hd series have cpu intel g1820, anyone know
[02:04] <SenorSenpai> ok gonna try those things
[02:04] <cfhowlett> yandexru you should ask Intel
[02:04] <sydney> SenorSenpai: ok. ;)
[02:05] <SenorSenpai> unity-panel-service: no process found
[02:05] <SenorSenpai> and I have tweak tools, where abouts in it?
[02:06] <wilee-nilee> SenorSenpai, Gnome-tweak has the extensions control, that hide is in the extensions, is this where you got that control.
[02:07] <sydney> SenorSenpai: Open terminal and paste gnome-tweak-tool
[02:07] <SenorSenpai> looking but i dont have extensions option
[02:08] <sydney> SenorSenpai: did you try this? gnome-control-center
[02:08] <dw1> SenorSenpai: if youre on gnome classic "killall gnome-panel" should reset the panel stuff
[02:08] <SenorSenpai> yes, where to go in there
[02:08] <yandexru> i will ask the seller, he dont know for sure :D
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> SenorSenpai, In the gnome-tweak-tool not unity, I assume you have the correct gui open.
[02:09] <SenorSenpai> dw1: that worked for killing the panel but it starts again still hidden
[02:09] <dw1> SenorSenpai: ah
[02:09] <SenorSenpai> i can see a few pixels of it
[02:09] <dw1> weird
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> SenorSenpai, How did you install this control?
[02:10] <SenorSenpai> and yes wilee-nilee i have gnome tweak tool open but its for gnome3 right?
[02:10] <yandexru> why ububtu use gnome, becouse its small like gnome?:D
[02:10] <SonikkuAmerica> yandexru: it uses Unity by default
[02:10] <SenorSenpai> i installed gnome-session-flashback the other day after breaking unity.... lol
[02:10] <SonikkuAmerica> !unity
[02:10] <cfhowlett> !flavors|yandexru
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> SenorSenpai, gnome 3 is the underlying desktop of it and unity and other sektops.
[02:10] <dw1> i <3 flashback
[02:10] <dw1> light and works
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> desktops*
[02:10] <SonikkuAmerica> cfhowlett: ((Yay, my factoid made it!))
[02:11] <pakair> yandexru, Intel Celeron G1820 Haswell 2.7GHz LGA 1150 54W Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics BX80646G1820
[02:11] <cfhowlett> SonikkuAmerica so I see.  :)
[02:11] <sydney> SenorSenpai: Did settings open with the last code i gave you to type in?
[02:12] <SonikkuAmerica> cfhowlett: ((I was such a pest to the ops that they now taunt me in -offtopic))
[02:12] <cfhowlett> SonikkuAmerica sounds like you're ready to be an Op yourself!
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> SonikkuAmerica, I have in general had you in ignore, how did you escape? ;)
[02:12] <SenorSenpai> sydney: yes it did
[02:13] <sydney> SenorSenpai:How did you make the bar auto-hide?
[02:13] <dw1> SenorSenpai: running in compiz mode?
[02:13] <dw1> " If any Compiz plugin is assigned to a screenedge, a panel on that edge won't return from autohide, because Compiz captures the hover."
[02:13] <SonikkuAmerica> cfhowlett: That'll never happen, some of the ops hate me.
[02:13] <DanielConvissor> good evening from NY
[02:13] <SonikkuAmerica> wilee-nilee: Busted! :D
[02:14] <SonikkuAmerica> DanielConvissor: Good evening from upstate NY! State your business.
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> SonikkuAmerica, I have at least one opp in there to, they are a surly bunch.
[02:15] <dw1> SenorSenpai: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1362189&p=10295087#post10295087
[02:16] <yandexru> thanks.
[02:17] <SenorSenpai> dw1: no "panels" section in apps ;-;
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> SenorSenpai, Was this a config modification, used to be you had to do it this way?
[02:17] <sydney> SenorSenpai: How did you auto-hide the bar? What program?
[02:19]  * DanielConvissor was going to ask where SonikkuAmerica was in ny, but, uh, they're gone :)
[02:19] <DanielConvissor> aaaanyway...
[02:19] <SenorSenpai> i used super + alt + right click on the top bar
[02:19] <DanielConvissor> i've been using ubuntu for several years.  done several 14.04 beta installs.  downloaded the latest installer from ubuntu.com (ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso) a few minutes ago.  usually, the install routine gives a few options: install on the whole disk, (overwrite existing installation if one exists), something else.  but this installer goes direclty to manual partitioning.
[02:19] <SenorSenpai> clicked properties
[02:19] <SenorSenpai> ticked auto hide, and it hid itself
[02:20] <SenorSenpai> built into the panel
[02:20] <dw1> SenorSenpai: scroll down on that last thread 2 more suggestions
[02:20] <SenorSenpai> ok
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> DanielConvissor, run in the terminal sudo parted -l and pastebin it
[02:20] <dw1> SenorSenpai: if youre in compiz mode its probably taking over the screen edge
[02:20] <SenorSenpai> ohhh
[02:21] <dw1> SenorSenpai: thats why that suggestion to enlarge the panel to 5px worked for people
[02:21] <dw1> SenorSenpai: to enlarge the hidden panel
[02:21] <dw1> SenorSenpai: then it wasnt on the edge anymore
[02:21] <SenorSenpai> that did it, disabled cube and it now unhides
[02:21] <SenorSenpai> so i can tick it back :)
[02:21] <dw1> SenorSenpai: :D
[02:21] <EpicRainbow> Is there a way to load certain programs into memory at startup and keep it there until shutdown so they load faster?(I have a slow hard drive)
[02:21] <wilee-nilee> fallback with the cube, now living on the edge
[02:22] <dw1> gleaming the cube
[02:22] <dw1> pretty bad movie
[02:22] <dw1> lol
[02:22] <dw1> classic Slater tho
[02:22] <DanielConvissor> wilee-nilee: that produces the warning that dev sda contains GPT signatures... Is this a GPT partition table? Yes/No?
[02:22] <wilee-nilee> EpicRainbow, Some yes, firefox is one I have done this with.
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin | DanielConvissor,
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> DanielConvissor, Show the info
[02:23] <EpicRainbow> wilee-nilee, did you use a program for it?
[02:23] <DanielConvissor> figured you've seen it before
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> EpicRainbow, No a mod I saw here.
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> DanielConvissor, Not yours that is the issue.
[02:24] <EpicRainbow> wilee-nilee, Can you link me?
[02:24] <SenorSenpai> thanks guys for the help :D
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> DanielConvissor, we don't just ask for this stuff for fun.
[02:24] <SenorSenpai> i keep managing to break stuff lol
[02:24] <dw1> if it aint broke, you havent tweaked it enough
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> EpicRainbow, Searched with ubuntu firefox in ram, if you need more. http://ubuntuguide.net/speed-up-firefox-by-moving-cache-into-ram-in-ubuntu
[02:26] <DanielConvissor> wilee-nilee: https://paste.ubuntu.com/7605443/
[02:26] <EpicRainbow> wilee-nilee, thanks
[02:27] <sydney> SenorSenpai: I am sorry,but i am not sure how to help. :(
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> DanielConvissor, That should be showing the partitions, not a bunch of warnings. Do you still have windows or whatever might have been a uefi/efi OS?
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> like W8 or an apple OS
[02:29] <agent_white> Is there a good keypress logger out there? I'm wanting to record all my keypresses for a day to manipulate the data into a heatmap (via gnuplot) to show what keys I press the most... just need a key logger.
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> SenorSenpai, messing till breakage is the linux way, as long as you can fix it.
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> DanielConvissor, If any if my questions are confusing let me and the channel know, we do want you fixed and on the road again. ;)
[02:31] <OerHeks> !info logkeys
[02:32] <sydney> SenorSenpai: I found this on google. They said to do run this in terminal to reset gnome2 back to default. rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity I am not sure if it will work though.
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> sydney, This is gnome 3
[02:33] <sydney> wilee-nilee: Correct me if i am wrong. He is running gnome fallback.isnt that gnome2?
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> sydney, Nah just pseudo gnome 2
[02:35] <sydney> Well,see it it works. :D
[02:35] <wilee-nilee> sydney, Not a good idea to just randomly run a rm -rf that can wipe a OS.
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> just saying is all. ;)
[02:36] <gassho> sounds like fud to me wilee-nilee
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> !rm
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> !rf
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> gassho, Then you know nothing. ;)
[02:36] <gassho> ah you have courage :D
[02:37] <gassho> not even nothing knows nothing
[02:37] <gassho> but then again, I don't know
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> yeah we all know now. ;)
[02:37] <gassho> foss may have taught wilee-nilee all that HE knows but he didn't teach me all i know
[02:38] <gassho> *foss
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> The bot used to have danger danger warning with the rm info
[02:38] <cfhowlett> !danger
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> ah, there it is, DOH
[02:39] <kostkon> !rmrf
[02:39] <kostkon> nope
[02:39] <DanielConvissor> wilee-nilee: drive is empty, as far as i recall.  no, the questions are fine, thanks!  just trying some thigns out in the background.  dd'ed /dev/zero over the first 2000 512k blocks.  then ran fdsik and wrote.  then partprobe.  parted -l shows an empty dos partition table.
[02:39] <DanielConvissor> reran installer, still goes to manual partitioning
[02:39] <gassho> those we do not speak of :P
[02:39] <gassho> of which we do not speak?
[02:40] <sydney> Well,what else do you think SenorSenpai should try? Im out of ideas?
[02:40] <syeekick> segmentation faults bad?
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> DanielConvissor, This a UEFI computer? When you change from a msdos to a gpt partition table often unseen remnants are still there from the gpt, here is a cleaner link. http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/wipegpt.html
[02:41] <wilee-nilee> DanielConvissor, I'm assuming you have set the partition table to msdos, make sure to check what it is.
[02:41] <OerHeks> !info gdisk
[02:41] <sydney> !info supertux
[02:41] <sydney> :D
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> DanielConvissor, You might have wiped the remnants with the dd, make a msdos table and run the sudo parted -l command to check.
[02:42] <robotdevil> so ya the vlc dvd backup gave no video
[02:43] <sydney> SenorSenpai: Im not sure how to help further. :(
[02:43] <robotdevil> handbrake seems to be neutered
[02:43] <wilee-nilee> robotdevil, easier apps to use.
[02:43] <robotdevil> mkv only
[02:43] <DanielConvissor> wilee-nilee: the bios is from 2009.  i've had ubuntu on here back then (on a different drive).  don't think it has uefi and my install notes from back then don't mention me doing anything about uefi.
[02:43] <robotdevil> wtfudge
[02:43] <SenorSenpai> sydney: i fixed it already ;)
[02:43] <syeekick> in general are segmentation faults bad? got it across two seperate ubuntu installs
[02:43] <syeekick> it'd be pointless to be more specific :P
[02:43] <SenorSenpai> that thread mentioend it was a compiz problem
[02:43] <wilee-nilee> DanielConvissor, Yeah 2009 should be uefi clear.
[02:44] <SenorSenpai> disabled cube and could unhide no problem
[02:44] <DanielConvissor> parted -l shows an empty msdos partition table.
[02:44] <cfhowlett> DanielConvissor you won't have uefi but you could have GPT - when I hackintoshed my 2009 Dell, that's the default.  later attempts to install ubuntu ran into the GPT issue you're showing
[02:44] <sydney> SenorSenpai: Ok. :D Glad you figured it out!! :D
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> syeekick, HD segmentation faults? HOw are you checking?
[02:44] <SenorSenpai> thanks, i gtg now
[02:44] <DanielConvissor> thanks cfhowlett, will look at the info, above.
[02:45] <robotdevil> LOOOOVVE downloading things just to find out they dont work as expected
[02:45] <asmodeus> wilee-nilee: still around?
[02:45] <syeekick> wilee-nilee, i run programms through the terminal and it says segmentaion fualt core dumped. this has been for some bash commmands and some applications
[02:45] <syeekick> although i haven't seen it in a while
[02:45] <wilee-nilee> DanielConvissor, Cool you should be okay.
[02:46] <wilee-nilee> syeekick, Ah I was not sure, not sure here.
[02:46] <syeekick> ok
[02:46] <wilee-nilee> asmodeus, Yep.
[02:46] <angelica> anyone know how to properly configurate a wifi adapter? the connection cuts in and out :(
[02:46] <syeekick> angelica, signal strength?
[02:47] <angelica> syeekick: good
[02:47] <wilee-nilee> angelica, Helpful if the channel knows the hardware if internal lspci in the terminal if a usb lsusb find the info and post.
[02:47] <asmodeus> wilee-nilee: (we talked earlier about boot issues)  I ran boot-repair again, and it has been "Scanning systems (os-prober).  This may require several minutes..." for about 2 hours.
[02:47] <f1ay> Hey, i'm trying to set an alias to run a program thats in a folder on my desktop
[02:47] <f1ay> how does this work?
[02:47] <syeekick> you checked the local area for conflicting channels. if alot of peopl eare using the same channels they can get full
[02:48] <angelica> jez... I know the brand is Bolse 300 Mbps wireless usb adapter
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> asmodeus, Yes we did, and I said run the bootinfo summary only and said where it was, is this what you did.
[02:48] <syeekick> lsusb would give the chipset angelica which is more important
[02:48] <angelica> where can I find that?
[02:49] <angelica> speed: 72 Mb/s
[02:49] <wilee-nilee> asmodeus, Anything run on that app should finish almost very quickly.
[02:50] <f1ay> Hey, i'm trying to set an alias to run a program thats in a folder on my desktop. I'm apparently going about this the wrong way
[02:50] <syeekick> type lsusb into the terminal and then copy and paste the acorrding line
[02:50] <asmodeus> wilee-nilee: ok, I missed something.  Forgive me, but how do i get the bootinfo summary?
[02:50] <angelica> thanks!
[02:50] <angelica> 72 Mb/s
[02:50] <angelica> ooops, one sec
[02:51] <cjw907> @flay, if you edit your .bashrc or .bash_aliases file, you could permanently create that alias, or you could just use the command in the terminal and have the alias only for the current session. Either way, the command you want to use is -- alias alias_name='~/Desktop/file_name'
[02:51] <angelica> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0bda:8178 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8192CU 802.11n WLAN Adapter
[02:52] <angelica> syeekick: I believe that is it
[02:52] <f1ay> cjw907: Thanks, trying now
[02:52] <wilee-nilee> asmodeus, It is on the gui when you open it.
[02:52] <angelica> no no... must be this one. Sorry!
[02:53] <angelica> Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0518:0001 EzKEY Corp. USB to PS2 Adaptor v1.09
[02:54] <robotdevil> wilee-nilee: such as
[02:54] <wilee-nilee> asmodeus, I can't say this will give any answers, but the bootrepair fix not really finishing and this being an upgrade from 12.04 with missing files is a bit ominous.
[02:54] <asmodeus> wilee-nilee: we're back to "Scanning systems (os-prober).  This may require several minutes..."
[02:55] <asmodeus> wilee-nilee: dmesg shows no errors, and the HD light is off
[02:55] <angelica> is that it syeekick?
[02:55] <wilee-nilee> asmodeus, I think you are seriously broken, just a guess, but so far the info we have points at this.
[02:55] <angelica> sorry, I think I lost connection. I was saying:
[02:56] <angelica> Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0518:0001 EzKEY Corp. USB to PS2 Adaptor v1.09
[02:56] <angelica> syeekick
[02:56] <angelica> is it that one?
[02:57] <wilee-nilee> asmodeus, However theoretically anything is fixable, if that helps, it is just the effort and time for me on my setups.
[02:57] <angelica> I have to keep clicking on the networks name to reconect
[02:58] <asmodeus> wilee-nilee: I suppose that means that I will actually have to put forth some effort, and invest some time and research into solving my own problems.  yuck.
[02:58] <wilee-nilee> asmodeus, THe summary should take about 5seconds at the most.
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> asmodeus, Can You pastebin sudo parted -l when you close the bootrepair app.
[02:59] <angelica> hi?
[02:59] <pakair> angelica, from a terminal type, dmesg | grep wlan this may give you some info why it is loosing connection
[03:00] <wilee-nilee> asmodeus, I hate having to work at things, at least some things too.
[03:00] <Krishnamurti> I am installing wine in ubuntu,but it told me "You will need to install development packages of Xlib/Xfree86 at the very least." how can i solve it?
[03:00] <angelica> pakir, this is what I got:
[03:01] <angelica> [   14.667490] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
[03:01] <angelica> [   14.667774] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
[03:01] <angelica> [   16.604307] wlan0: authenticate with 00:26:b8:f7:9b:ac
[03:01] <angelica> [   16.634009] wlan0: send auth to 00:26:b8:f7:9b:ac (try 1/3)
[03:01] <angelica> [   16.637227] wlan0: authenticated
[03:01] <angelica> [   16.642455] wlan0: associate with 00:26:b8:f7:9b:ac (try 1/3)
[03:01] <unopaste> angelica you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[03:01] <wilee-nilee> Krishnamurti, Use windows for windows apps?
[03:01] <Krishnamurti> wilee-nilee: yes
[03:01] <pakair> angelica, use pastebin if you have to post more than a line. That tells you that the wireless is not on
[03:02] <wilee-nilee> Krishnamurti, I mean that is really the best option, at least in my biased opinion.
[03:02] <angelica> pakair: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7605565/
[03:02] <asmodeus> wilee-nilee: getting any quantity of data from my busted machine to my currently working laptop to pastebin will take a minute or two.
[03:02] <pakair> angelica, sorry IPV6 is off, it does say that wlan was auth so you have a connection
[03:03] <wilee-nilee> asmodeus, Cool, I'm just curious as to what is there and if the command will read it.
[03:03] <Krishnamurti> wilee-nilee: I can't understand.
[03:03] <pakair> angelica, I dont know what reason 15 is but that breaks the connection
[03:03] <wilee-nilee> Krishnamurti, Cool, I'm not up on wine is all, others may be helpful. ;)
[03:03] <angelica> pakair, it goes in and out, I have to click on the networks name to reconect every couple minutes
[03:04] <Krishnamurti> wilee-nilee: Thanks anyway.
[03:04] <angelica> pakair, the usb adapter came with a cd with drivers... I just have no idea what file to use from the linux folder
[03:04] <pakair> angelica, can you change the channel of the wireless you connect? usually default us 6, move it to 11 or 1
[03:04] <pakair> is*
[03:06] <angelica> pakair: looking... I cant find the channel settings
[03:07] <asmodeus> wilee-nilee: http://pastebin.com/xWQFAKgi     <- /dev/sdd is supposed to be unrecognized
[03:08] <pakair> angelica, I hope someone else has an idea ...
[03:09] <angelica> :) thanks for trying pakair
[03:09] <pakair> angelica, which realase are your running ... 14.04
[03:09] <angelica> yes
[03:10] <angelica> pakair, maybe I am supposed to install the drivers that come in the cd that came with the usb adapter
[03:10] <pakair> angelica, http://askubuntu.com/questions/246236/compile-and-install-rtl8192cu-driver
[03:10] <angelica> I just dont know what are those... there is one that seems to be the equivalent to .exe on windows? install.sh
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> asmodeus, Reads fine the partitions show, not sure of any real answer as we just can't get info that supports anything.
[03:12] <angelica> pakair, I will try that... thank you!
[03:12] <pakair> angelica, yes, sort of ... see answer 2, you need to d/l a driver from Realtek, then edit some files, unzip and install that driver.
[03:12] <pakair> angelica, good luck
[03:13] <angelica> thanks
[03:13] <wilee-nilee> asmodeus, The sdd may be blocking the bootinfo summary though is my guess.
[03:14] <wilee-nilee> asmodeus, Any mirror of ubuntu in this a svaed clone in other words?
[03:14] <wilee-nilee> saved
[03:17] <vdr> Ubuntu noob level 3 here
[03:17] <vdr> I let my pc do an update and now it booted in CLI
[03:18] <wilee-nilee> vdr, Are you using proprietary graphic drivers?
[03:18] <wilee-nilee> we had a kernel upgrade today they do not follow upgrades there
[03:19] <vdr> hmmm nvidia?
[03:19] <vdr> so probably
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | vdr try this and if in reload them.
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> if in means the desktop shows vdr
[03:20] <DanielConvissor> wilee-nilee: you're not going to believe it.  the hard drive wasn't plugged in.  so it was trying to install to the thumb drive i was running the installer from.  i swapped the drive in to there several months ago.  i blame sleep deprivation, both times.
[03:20] <DanielConvissor> thank you, sorry to waste your time
[03:21] <vdr> should have said... v12.04.4
[03:21] <wilee-nilee> DanielConvissor, No biggie, glad you figured it out, that is the best thing to happen. ;)
[03:21] <DanielConvissor> :)
[03:22] <wilee-nilee> often the usb and the hd gets reversed in a live session DanielConvissor
[03:25] <MontaEllyHavItAl> hey all...
[03:25] <MontaEllyHavItAl> anyone familiar with linux hdmi audio
[03:28] <DanielConvissor> i've messed around with it a bit
[03:28] <DanielConvissor> read, wasted lots of time
[03:28] <wilee-nilee> MontaEllyHavItAl, This channel works with a statement of the issue, for help. ;)
[03:28] <asmodeus> wilee-nilee: the sdd is a block device with no partition table used for encrypted data
[03:29] <asmodeus> wilee-nilee: sorry, i don't think i really needed to specify "block device"
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> asmodeus, I figured as such, not sure the app is designed to read that and 3 2 terabyte drives and another, that is a lot of area ans a encrypted is all.
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> It may be the mystery missing file hard ti sat asmodeus
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> to say*
[03:34] <asmodeus> wilee-nilee: From the command prompt, I ran fsck on all the volumes, and sde1 "has been mounted 35 times without being checked".  Although there are still no dmesg errors, fsck seems to really be taking a long time on pass 1
[03:34] <Dr0g0r> hi all
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> asmodeus, I had wondered, the auto fsck is off, have you turned it on. The script shows fstab, that was my first stop.
[03:39] <asmodeus> wilee-nilee: For now, I think I will let the fsck run and see what happens.  I have never turned on or off auto fsck.
[03:41] <wilee-nilee> asmodeus, Ah, good, should be auto running as far as I know, but if you stopped it when running I believe that can be a problem, yeah let it run. If you get in in the end you can turn off the fsck in fstab, if still there.
[03:41] <wilee-nilee> should not*
[03:44] <DanielConvissor> wilee-nilee:  going fine now that the drive is plugged in.  (though waiting for packages to download from slow canonical servers/connectivity.)  fyi, here's the install routine i've put together:  https://github.com/convissor/ubuntu_laptop_installation
[03:45] <asmodeus> wilee-nilee: many thanks for the assistance.  I will be leaving shortly, so I'll just let it run and see where it is tomorrow.
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> asmodeus, Cool I admire the tenacity, were it me I would have loaded the reloaded the cloned 12.04, I clone everything. ;)
[03:47] <wilee-nilee> I had a this exact update break myself and just reloaded 12.04
[03:47] <wilee-nilee> err upgrade
[03:50] <wilee-nilee> DanielConvissor, Ah a specific uefi computers instructions, that's gold.
[03:51] <wilee-nilee> evry manufacturer has their own voodoo with that stuff
[03:51] <DanielConvissor> yeah
[03:51] <vdr> ubottu: and wilee-nilee thanks for your help, directly or indirectly I got where I needed to go... PURGE and RELOAD current drivers
[03:51] <vdr> done
[03:52] <skinux> Can someone explain what apt-get it trying to tell me?: http://pastebin.com/Dn9gnDAP
[03:52] <wilee-nilee> vdr, Cool, so you understand the issue if proprietary are used now I would guess
[03:52] <thedoctor> hi
[03:52] <DanielConvissor> the real value there is the shell script that puts /etc under git control, sets up unattended upgrades, installs the packages i want, etc
[03:52] <DanielConvissor> value for me, at least
[03:53] <wilee-nilee> skinux, 4 not fully installed or removed=broken packages
[03:53] <skinux> apt-get check shows no problems
[03:54] <wilee-nilee> skinux, kind of a mess for me so others will be better here.
[03:54] <wilee-nilee> the upgrade will show them
[03:56] <wilee-nilee> skinux, This is what release?
[03:57] <wilee-nilee> thedoctor, Hi dock, gotta pain right here, what do you think it is. ;)
[03:59] <kirankumar> hi me kirankumar i have one problem on on pc  . my Problem is startup it not chance to me select  os means windows7 or ubuuntu  . in detail  first  i instoled a  windows 7 on my pc .  then i want to study for ubuntu so i install a ubuntu studio option with along side with windows .  when i restart my pc it not provide a os selection menu and directly run a ubbuntu . so please any  code ya settings required for  multi os. so please help some one who
[03:59] <kirankumar> use multi os use ..   please  help me
[03:59] <thedoctor> ??
[03:59] <wilee-nilee> kirankumar, run sudo update-grub in ubuntu ans ee if widows shows.
[03:59] <wilee-nilee> and see*
[04:00] <thedoctor> wtf ?
[04:00] <wilee-nilee> thedoctor, A joke.
[04:00] <thedoctor> easy
[04:00] <skinux> Problem was I had Python set to 3.4 default....apparently Ubuntu needs default of 2.7
[04:00] <kirankumar> @wilee-nilee  where run sir?
[04:00] <wilee-nilee> kirankumar, Ah, in the ubuntu terminal.
[04:00] <kirankumar> ok sir i try
[04:00] <wilee-nilee> thedoctor, No biggie, but we do have a no swearing or acronyms of here. ;)
[04:01] <thedoctor> wtf
[04:01] <wilee-nilee> !ops | thedoctor
[04:01] <thedoctor> dont attack me
[04:01] <thedoctor> what trigger ?
[04:01] <wilee-nilee> I will let them separate the wheat from the chafe. ;)
[04:02] <thedoctor> ummm
[04:02] <kirankumar> sir @wilee-nilee  ....  Generating grub.cfg ...
[04:02] <kirankumar> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-23-lowlatency
[04:02] <kirankumar> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-23-lowlatency
[04:02] <kirankumar> Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin
[04:02] <kirankumar> Found Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda1
[04:02] <kirankumar> done
[04:02] <unopaste> kirankumar you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[04:03] <thedoctor> nice
[04:03] <thedoctor> w   t   f
[04:03] <wilee-nilee> kirankumar, You are good windows should show in  the grub menu and it should pause there for about 10 seconds.
[04:04] <wilee-nilee> kirankumar, What ubuntu release is this?
[04:04] <thedoctor> any use the chinessse ubuntu ?
[04:04] <thedoctor> im on 12
[04:04] <kirankumar> how i check version ?
[04:05] <thedoctor> u can do that in the gear icon at top left
[04:05] <wilee-nilee> kirankumar, lsb release -a
[04:05] <wilee-nilee> in the terminal
[04:05] <thedoctor> omg
[04:05] <kirankumar> ok
[04:06] <thedoctor> gui is easier
[04:06] <wilee-nilee> lsb_release -a actauly my mistake kirankumar
[04:07] <kirankumar> ok abbove command eror
[04:08] <wilee-nilee> kirankumar, try this lsb_release -a
[04:08] <watamacha> hey, for some reason my sound isn't working when I switch to KDE, any ideas what might be the issue?
[04:08] <watamacha> I'm using a wireless headset and it's not showing up in the settings thing for KDE
[04:09] <kirankumar> sir my version is 12.04
[04:09] <DanielConvissor> good night folks.  thanks, wilee-nilee
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> kirankumar, Cool looks like 12.04 not the latest 12.04.4 by the kernel is why I asked.
[04:10] <kirankumar> @wilee-nilee  sir what i do?
[04:11] <wilee-nilee> kirankumar, For what, version is okay, there are just sequential upgrade in the long term on this release, it went up by the releases after and their kernel stack.
[04:11] <kirankumar> @wilee-nilee  what do? for my old problem a my windows data and os selection problem?
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> kirankumar, Reboot it shoukd be there I mentioned this already.
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> should
 kirankumar, You are good windows should show in  the grub menu and it should pause there for about 10 seconds.
[04:13] <kirankumar> @wilee-nilee  thanks sir i reboot  thanks
[04:13] <wilee-nilee> kirankumar, No problem, enjoy. ;)
[04:13] <gry> please be back too :)
[04:13] <gry> want to hear whether it worked :)
[04:14] <wilee-nilee> no sda2 the actual OS, but it may have  the boot bcd in the boot partition sda1
[04:16] <mlh> hello
[04:17] <mlh> hello
[04:18] <wilee-nilee> mlh, You have some support issue for the channel?
[04:20] <watamacha> what do I do if phonon is recognizing a device but the device configuration section is grayed out?
[04:20] <gry> run it with super privileges
[04:21] <gry> it used to be gksu but they changed it this year and I don't remember the new system
[04:22] <kirankumar> @wilee-nilee sir one new problem.
[04:23] <wilee-nilee> kirankumar, Sure go ahead>
[04:23] <watamacha> tried GKSU phonon
[04:23] <watamacha> didnt work
[04:25] <kirankumar> @wilee-nilee  when pc is startup a "input not support " error  release and after few seconds it startup a ubuntu . ?autometically
[04:25] <wilee-nilee> kirankumar, So no boot menu?
[04:25] <kirankumar> yah
[04:26] <wilee-nilee> kirankumar, So run in the ubuntu terminal sudo parted -l and pastebin that info.
[04:26] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin | kirankumar
[04:26] <kirankumar> @wilee-nille  not display it and message display "input not support"
[04:27] <wilee-nilee> kirankumar, I'm not sure what "input not support" this means exactly, but I'm concerned that windows was not overwritten when you installed ubuntu.
[04:28] <kirankumar> yes i understand sir
[04:28] <llida> is it not as simple as looking for windows when you reboot?
[04:28] <wilee-nilee> sorry for the double negatives
[04:28] <llida> hrm
[04:29] <llida2> (missed a few, will read up)
[04:30] <wilee-nilee> llida2, Be careful just jumping in to a help situation, the user is first here not whether we need to help.
[04:32] <kirankumar> @wilee-nilee  as my knowledge this message  occures . if your display or output  devices  not  support signal .  but in ubbuntu some time after automaticaly  convert proper signal . it posible?
[04:33] <wilee-nilee> kirankumar,  I suspec it is just a resolution problem at the boot menu window.
[04:33] <kirankumar> yes sir ecaxt
[04:34] <kirankumar> @wilee-nilee   sir can we can change this resolution problem?
[04:35] <kirankumar> @wilee-nilee  in ubbuntu support any  program for bios resolution problem setup?
[04:35] <wilee-nilee> kirankumar, Just a guess here on that, all I could do is google my guess.
[04:36] <kirankumar> @wilee-nilee  ok thanks i try
[04:36] <wilee-nilee> kirankumar, I am most interested if you get to the ubuntu desktop to see the command sudo parted-l to confirm if windows is actually there.
[04:36] <dens2204> hello
[04:37] <dens2204> hellp me registred pls
[04:37] <kirankumar> yes
[04:37] <dens2204> on this irc serv
[04:37] <wilee-nilee> !register | dens2204
[04:37] <dens2204> thanks alot
[04:39] <yano> hm
[04:41] <kirankumar> @wilee-nilee  sir  i can i share my data here?
[04:42] <kirankumar> @wilee-nilee  i  run this command. and output ganerated.
[04:42] <wilee-nilee> kirankumar, Which data? the command run info should be in a pastebin. For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[04:42] <hannah3> helo
[04:43] <demon> english
[04:43] <demon> ??
[04:43] <hannah3> slant
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> demon, Yes this is an english channel.
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> hannah3, Do you need support?
[04:43] <demon> my english is poor
[04:43] <kirankumar> @will-nilee sir please  download?
[04:44] <wilee-nilee> kirankumar, I don't understand.
[04:44] <hannah3> wat kind of suport
[04:44] <wilee-nilee> hannah3, Ubuntu-support
[04:44] <ethermonk> i have installed php5-mcrypt but im still getting errors saying mcrypt is not installed from framework installs (and phpmyadmin). I have purged the config and reinstalled and issue persists
[04:44] <hannah3> wat ubundu
[04:45] <wilee-nilee> hannah3, Read the channel header
[04:45] <hannah3> wats tht means
[04:45] <kirankumar> @wille-nilee sir i past a data.
[04:45] <ethermonk> it means people have real problems and you are disrupting real work
[04:45] <wilee-nilee> kirankumar, Give us the url to it.
[04:46] <Monotoko> one of my virtual ubuntu 14.04 servers keeps rebooting and going into memtest
[04:46] <Monotoko> I can't find any reason why
[04:46] <yosry> hello :)
[04:46] <Monotoko> help?
[04:46] <nimbiotics> hello all. I'm using ubuntu v14.04LTS with MATE. I have a Plantronics 995H wireless headset that was working fine ... until I installed some updates today. Can someone please help me understand what is going on and how to fix it? TIA!
[04:47] <yosry> does anyone know why when i press shutdown buttom from menu nothing happen
[04:47] <yosry> and i cant shutdown my pc normaly
[04:48] <kirankumar> @wilee-nilee  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7605884/
[04:48] <yosry> i chose shut down from the top right menu and click on it but nothing happen i have to press on power buttom for  5 sec to override shut down
[04:48] <nimbiotics> yosry you should still be able to run shotdown 0 on a terminal
[04:48] <yosry> yeah i know but how to fix this bug ?
[04:49] <nimbiotics> yosry: shutdown 0
[04:49] <yosry> nimbiotics: you should still be able to run shotdown 0 on a terminal
[04:49] <yosry> nimbiotics: i mean how to fix this
[04:49] <yosry> nimbiotics: i dont wana to shut down my pc every time from terminal
[04:50] <nimbiotics> yosry: sorry, cant help you with that ...
[04:50] <yosry> nimbiotics: thx
[04:50] <yosry> do u know what to search in ubuntu forum ?
[04:50] <nimbiotics> yosry: I understadn, but its still better that just pressing the button and doing it the hard way
[04:50] <yosry> mine is freshly installed
[04:50] <robotdevil> so basically avidemux, handbarake and acidrip are heinous to use under 14.04
[04:50] <wilee-nilee> kirankumar, Looks good, windows is there, on the error you want to fix look here for the fix from the desktop. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1742703&page=2
[04:51] <yosry> so that wont affect my os at all if i forced shut down from but
[04:51] <Sachiru> What's the name of the app that provides a GUI to control users and groups settings in Gnome?
[04:51] <Sachiru> I'd like to run it from the command line via sudo, so I'm asking.
[04:51] <yosry> Sachiru: tweak tools i guess
[04:51] <wilee-nilee> kirankumar, you want the from the desktop fix #1 and the file used is. /etc/default/grub
[04:51] <nimbiotics> yosry: you should avoid forcing the system down via hardware ...
[04:51] <kirankumar> ok thanks sir
[04:51] <Sachiru> Nope, that's not it
[04:52] <wilee-nilee> Sachiru, visudo?
[04:52] <kirankumar> @wilee-nilee sorry what i do this file?
[04:52] <robotdevil> avidemux cant even open a file, my directory is /home/rd/movie.mpg and it trys to open /home/ac/movie.mpg. there isnt even a user called ac
[04:52] <Sachiru> No, not graphical sudo.
[04:53] <wilee-nilee> kirankumar, You will have to read the link it is explained well there, if you can.
[04:53] <yosry> nimbiotics: is that a known bug ?
[04:53] <Sachiru> It's like this: You can invoke a GUI to control samba shares via running system-config-samba in the command line
[04:53] <wilee-nilee> Sachiru, visudo is not graphical sudo
[04:53] <kirankumar> @wilee-nilee  thanks sir i read now
[04:53] <Sachiru> I'm looking for the command line command to invoke a GUI to add users and/or groups
[04:54] <wilee-nilee> Sachiru, users?
[04:54] <Sachiru> And/or modify their permissions
[04:54] <nimbiotics> yosry: honestly, I have no idea, but I think I lived that on some reincarnation, probably non ubuntu (mint?)
[04:54] <Sachiru> Nope, gui
[04:54] <yosry> nimbiotics: ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[04:54] <Sachiru> Basically the command line equivalent of launching the "Users and Groups" system tool in the launcher.
[04:54] <robotdevil> also it always starts in file->open /root when launching it as a normal user, instead of /home
[04:54] <wilee-nilee> Sachiru, get used to prefacing answers to others with their nick if you can.
[04:55] <robotdevil> handbrake has mkv only and seems to be an issue since 12.04, just a little while
[04:55] <nimbiotics> yosry: I cant help you, just be patient and someone with more knowledge than me will most probably give you a hand
[04:55] <Sachiru> Ok.
[04:56] <Sachiru> Eh, nevermind, command line here I go. Launching users-admin via RDP session is bugged.
[04:57] <yosry> Can't shutdown and logout from top panel in Ubuntu 14.04 LTS any help to fix this >
[04:58] <wilee-nilee> !patience | yosry
[04:59] <nimbiotics> thx wilee-nilee
[04:59] <robotdevil> if I use avidemux from cli via      $avidemux ~/movie.mpg it open the file and indexes it but only if you open it once, if you try twice it fails reading the .idx file so you have to delete it, and even if you do make it that far, when it trys to transcode it will automagically switch to the file you previously trans-coded
[04:59] <yosry> wilee-nilee: i was trying to explain more my problem , am kinda found thats related to cairo dock
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> yosry, The channel asks you to be patient, and wait at least 10 min to repost is all. ;)
[05:00] <robotdevil> like a whole entire different file in a different directory
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> we see you, don't worry
[05:01] <yosry> wilee-nilee: thx am kinda newibe here thx for heads up i appreciate ur help and hard working :)
[05:01] <wilee-nilee> yosry, Thanks for understanding we want to help if we can. ;)
[05:02] <robotdevil> whats the point of gui in gnu/linux......ok im done
[05:02] <Monotoko> one of my virtual ubuntu 14.04 servers keeps rebooting and going into memtest, I can't find any reason why and the host (nor other VM's) have crashed
[05:03] <Monotoko> anyone got anyhing? I haven't heard of this behaviour (rebooting into memtest) and would like to stop it if possible
[05:03]  * wilee-nilee watches hoarders while reading the DSM V
[05:05] <edenist> Monotoko, two seperate issues first...
[05:05] <edenist> are they rebooting manually? or are you rebooting them?
[05:05] <edenist> are they then going into memtest when you reboot them?
[05:05] <edenist> if so, sounds like the grub config file has been changed, to make the memtest option the default
[05:05] <nimbiotics> hello all. I'm using ubuntu v14.04LTS with MATE. I have a Plantronics 995H wireless headset that was working fine ... until I installed some updates today. Can someone please help me understand what is going on and how to fix it? TIA!
[05:05] <Monotoko> no... when I reboot them manually, I don't have to touch it
[05:05] <Monotoko> it just boots into Ubuntu
[05:06] <Monotoko> but they tend to reboot themselves... and go into memtest
[05:06] <Monotoko> which I just find bizare
[05:07] <edenist> which system are you using for virtualisation?
[05:07] <edenist> vmware, virtualbox, openvz etc?
[05:07] <Monotoko> KVM
[05:11] <yosry> is there any way to learn basic bash commands ?
[05:11] <Monotoko> bash cheat sheet?
[05:11] <Monotoko> man?
[05:11] <gassho> :D
[05:11] <Monotoko> info?
[05:11] <kostkon> !bash
[05:12] <gassho> how did you learn basic bash commands?
[05:12] <Monotoko> Google
[05:12] <yosry> simple terminal commands ubottu thx
[05:12] <yosry> !thx
[05:12] <holstein> yosry: i suggest just getting something to do.. a task or 2, and search
[05:13] <wilee-nilee> !cookie | ubottu
[05:13] <wilee-nilee> that bots not hungry
[05:13] <yosry> holstein: actually i found some and practicing it already , with my vga driver
[05:13] <kirankumar> @wilee-nilee  sir,  thanks a lot of you .  sir my problem is solv
[05:13] <wilee-nilee> kirankumar, Cool, enjoy. ;)
[05:14] <holstein> yosry: i suggest *not* doing that
[05:14] <yosry> holstein: already done but didnt get the hardcore vga just open source dricer and my vga expirence is avg , i hated that gallium driver
[05:15] <holstein> yosry: you mean, you used a command in the terminal to install the driver?
[05:16] <yosry> holstein: with alittle help from a guys here
[05:16] <yosry> and little bit from google
[05:16] <holstein> !ati
[05:17] <yosry> holstein: mine is GeForce GT 620/PCIe/SSE2
[05:17] <holstein> yosry: i moved tasks to the command line.. irc for example..
[05:18] <Sachiru> Query: Is it possible to create a file or folder where the owning user has full permissions, but the main group of the owning user cannot see the folder at all, whereas another group (which the owning user is not a member of) has full read/write permissions as well?
[05:18] <kirankumar> @wilee-nilee sir thanks.    i want use a virtaulbox i installed properly and it work properly . i step bye step install a os in virtualbox it run properly . i have mount my harddisk and dvd and pendrive in virtualbox  what i do . ?
[05:18] <Monotoko> Sachiru, not really
[05:18] <yosry> holstein: how is that ?
[05:18] <Monotoko> you'd have to create a new group
[05:18] <Monotoko> and add the users you want to access said folder to that group (as additional groups)
[05:19] <wilee-nilee> kirankumar, It has been awhile since I have used virtual box, I think others here may be better help, and there is a #vbox channel as well.
[05:19] <yosry> holstein: when i get this http://pastebin.com/szqecvfJ , that means i have installed the riht driver right
[05:20] <kirankumar> @wilee-nilee  thanks sir
[05:20] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[05:20] <holstein> yosry: how it what? how is it that i move my IRC into the command line? with a command line irc client.. such as irssi or weechat
[05:21] <willwh_> irssi == win;
[05:21] <Monotoko> yosry, not really
[05:21] <Monotoko> that's just what's connected
[05:21] <willwh_> uh holstein you are using irrsi :p
[05:21] <Monotoko> doesn't mean Ubuntu knows what to do with it
[05:21] <holstein> yosry: the lspci | grep VGA command doesnt show you you have 'the right driver installed'
[05:22] <yosry> Monotoko: aha and how to make sure am using the right driver ?
[05:22] <willwh_> holstein: oh you were answering. d'oh :)
[05:22] <yosry> holstein: does  sudo lshw -C video ?
[05:22] <Monotoko> yosry - you should see an "Additional drivers available" when you first logged in
[05:22] <holstein> yosry: there is no " right" driver.. there will be many options, and then, the one that you use
[05:23] <yosry> 1st time there was no addintional driver it was empty  list
[05:23] <Monotoko> yosry, click the Dash... search "nvidia"
[05:23] <yosry> and got gallium by default but vga expirence was bad
[05:23] <Monotoko> do you have any programs?
[05:23] <holstein> yosry: unless your manufacturer specificially supports linux officially for you, then, it will be up to you to basically do what a large company does for you with windows.. and test drivers, and setup your syste
[05:24] <Sachiru> @Monotoko: Scenario is this: I have two groups, [EDT] and [EDT-Admin]. I want members of [EDT] to have a personal folder in (share) that only they have access to, and all personal folders in (share) are granted full r/w/x access to [EDT-Admin], but not [EDT].
[05:24] <unopaste> Sachiru: You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last 60 seconds; I'm now ignoring you for 10 minutes.
[05:24] <Sachiru> What?
[05:24] <Sachiru> I'm not issuing commands at all
[05:25] <Sachiru> To Monotoko: Scenario is this: I have two groups, [EDT] and [EDT-Admin]. I want members of [EDT] to have a personal folder in (share) that only they have access to, and all personal folders in (share) are granted full r/w/x access to [EDT-Admin], but not [EDT].
[05:25] <Monotoko> Sachiru, don't worry
[05:25] <Monotoko> it's a bot
[05:25] <Monotoko> it's picking up your []
[05:25] <Sachiru> Ah
[05:25] <Monotoko> two seconds
[05:25] <Monotoko> yosry: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2081649
[05:26] <Sachiru> The caveat is that members of [EDT-Admin] are members of [EDT] as well.
[05:27] <allegra_> whats the prettiest lookin ubuntu you ever seen
[05:27] <Monotoko> Sachiru, you're aware each member of [EDT] will be able to access each others stuff?
[05:27] <allegra_> im talking hackers in a movie lookin good
[05:27] <Sachiru> Ah.
[05:27] <Sachiru> Is there a way for them to NOT be able to access each others' stuff?
[05:27] <holstein> allegra_: please feel free to use the #ubuntu-offtopic channel to ask.. thanks
[05:27] <Sachiru> Only [EDT-Admin] should have full access to all the folders inside.
[05:28] <Sachiru> Basically I have a share named (share), each member of [EDT] will have a folder inside (share) that is keyed to their account
[05:28] <lacrymology> after the last update, my wm completely broke down
[05:28] <Monotoko> say we have Alice and Bob... Alice's folder is as follows: r/w Alice, r/w/x EDT-Admin Group
[05:28] <Sachiru> Supposedly only they and [EDT-Admin] should be able to have access to it
[05:28] <lacrymology> there's no wm running if I run unity environment, with one of the gnomes I have installed it sort of works, but not quite
[05:29] <lacrymology> please help?
[05:29] <Monotoko> so something like chmod /share/alice Alice:EDT-Admin
[05:29] <wilee-nilee> lacrymology, The release and desktop is important here.
[05:29] <Monotoko> then chown 570 /share/alice
[05:29] <yosry> Monotoko: http://uppix.com/f-Screenshot_from_5392a3100016abd9.pngu\i have this by now is that the hardcore driver xD
[05:30] <wilee-nilee> lacrymology, Have you been using proprietary graphic drivers?
[05:30] <lacrymology> wilee-nilee: 13.10, I'm pretty sure
[05:30] <PolishPicker> thanks
[05:30] <wilee-nilee> lacrymology, lsb_release -a will tell you
[05:30] <Monotoko> Sachiru, I got my first command wrong, it would be: chmod Alice:EDT-Admin /share/alice
[05:30] <Monotoko> *chown
[05:30] <Monotoko> damnit... I need sleep
[05:30] <lacrymology> wilee-nilee: hm, yes, I think. Well, actually I use bumblebee, so the default driver is intel
[05:30] <Monotoko> chown Alice:EDT-Admin /share/alice
[05:31] <lacrymology> wilee-nilee: yes, 13.10
[05:31] <lacrymology> desktop.. unity?
[05:31] <wilee-nilee> lacrymology, Ah, there was a kernel upgrade in 14.04 today, try an earlier kernel would be my response, but this is an area I'm not real fluent in.
[05:32] <wilee-nilee> lacrymology, An earlier kernel installed showing in grub
[05:32] <willwh_> lacrymology: you should be able to boot an earlier kernel
[05:32] <lacrymology> yeah, I'll try that
[05:32] <willwh_> hah wilee-nilee beat me to it :)
[05:33] <wilee-nilee> willwh_, THat is all I know in this area at best. ;)
[05:33]  * wilee-nilee hugs his intel hardware
[05:34] <yosry> !grub
[05:40] <robotdevil> !ffmpeg
[05:40] <holstein> !info avconf
[05:40] <robotdevil> !info ffmpeg
[05:41] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/432542/is-ffmpeg-missing-from-the-official-repositories-in-14-04
[05:41] <holstein> !info libav
[05:41] <robotdevil> ubuntu is turning into a joke
[05:41] <willwh_> robotdevil: no
[05:41] <robotdevil> if its not there already
[05:41] <holstein> !info avconv
[05:41] <willwh_> try libav-tools?
[05:41] <yosry> !fluendo
[05:41] <willwh_> or apt-cache search avconv
[05:42] <holstein> anways.. you'll find it, now that you know whats up robotdevil
[05:42] <willwh_> apt-cache search <thing> ftw
[05:43] <farsonic> hi there … anyone able to assist me with building kernel modules for SAA716x video card
[05:43]  * robotdevil eyes are sticking half way out of head
[05:43] <farsonic> spent agest on this and damned if I can get a build under 14.04
[05:43] <yosry> !nvidia
[05:44] <holstein> farsonic: ideally, the vendor would.. where are you getting the modules? do they support the kernel you are trying to use?
[05:44] <robotdevil> !winff
[05:44] <yosry> !vendor
[05:45] <robotdevil> !info winff
[05:45] <farsonic> sorry, its a DV Tuner card
[05:45] <farsonic> source at http://linuxtv.org/hg/~endriss/mirror-saa716x
[05:45] <robotdevil> joke
[05:46] <yosry> farsonic: its not vga driver ?
[05:46] <holstein> farsonic: does the vedor provide a module? does the module you are trying to use support the kernel you are trying to use?
[05:46] <Sachiru> To Monotoko: Thanks mate
[05:46] <holstein> yosry: its a capture card
[05:46] <farsonic> Digital TV Tuner
[05:46] <holstein> farsonic: have you tried just using the device?
[05:46] <farsonic> yep, attempting to use with Tvheadend
[05:47] <farsonic> not recognising it
[05:47] <farsonic> kernel sees it … using lspci 07:00.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7162 (rev 01)
[05:47] <holstein> farsonic: try soemthing simple, that you know works.. vlc, or something easy
[05:48] <farsonic> well, there is a specific kernel module for it….thats what I'm trying to compile
[05:48] <holstein> farsonic: does is support the kernel you are trying to use? where are you getting it? the vendor?
[05:48] <farsonic> no idea who teh vendor is for this thing
[05:49] <lacrymology> resetting to older kernel did not help. There is another MUCH older kernel installed, but that'd be sort of silly
[05:49] <holstein> farsonic: that may help you in finding support for the device.. i know the phillips tv card i had didnt work so i gave it to a windows user
[05:49] <lacrymology> I think I might have broken something, too. Isn't there a way for me to reinstall ubuntu-desktop and friends?
[05:49] <farsonic> I've had this working years ago with mythtv
[05:49] <lacrymology> I'm trying dpkg-reconfigure but it doesn't do anything
[05:50] <farsonic> but it has been hiding in a box for years
[05:50] <farsonic> I forget what model it is
[05:50] <holstein> farsonic: thats why i was asking if it suppported the kernel you are using. the module needs an older kernel, you'll want to provide it what it needs
[05:53] <lacrymology> I'm gonna do the release upgrade
[05:53] <lacrymology> I hope it helps
[05:54] <lacrymology> or I'm gonna move to freaking arch
[05:54] <wheatthin> lol
[05:55] <wheatthin> lacrymology, you can try to use tasksel and have it select ubuntu desktop
[05:55] <wheatthin> then let it do it's thing.. it might work
[05:55] <holstein> lacrymology: go where you like, but you can misconfigure, and break any system with upgrades.. i suggest, taking it slow, and trying to identify what is causing your issues.. driver support is basically quite similar for all linux
[05:57] <lacrymology> wheatthin: taskset? tasksel doesn't seem to exist
[05:57] <wheatthin> it does if you install it.
[05:57] <lacrymology> nope, not taskset
[05:58] <lacrymology> wheatthin: what does it do?
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> !info tasksel | lacrymology
[05:58] <holstein> lacrymology: what are you trying to do? *have* you been using a proprietary grahpics driver or not?
[05:58] <wheatthin> ehh, it's a console menu driven app that lets you setup the desktop/server profiles and enables you to do other things that you aren't asking for
[05:59] <lacrymology> holstein: I've been using bumblebee, which switches between the default intel drivers and nvidia propietary, yes
[05:59] <lacrymology> wheatthin: ok, let's see
[05:59] <holstein> lacrymology: did you add a PPA for it? if so, please remove it, and revert to stock ubuntu
[06:00] <robotdevil> yep totally trashed
[06:00] <frt> folks how I list both ips and ports
[06:00] <holstein> robotdevil: feel free and ask  a support question.. you can use the #ubuntu-offtopic to chat. thanks
[06:00] <frt> aka listening ports and to see which ips use them
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> frt: netstat ?
[06:02] <lacrymology> wheatthin: it fails with 'aptitude failed', nothng more
[06:02] <frt> lotuspsychje: does not show
[06:02] <Name141> is chrome in the repos ?
[06:02] <frt> I want to see local ip:port listening
[06:02] <Name141> or chromium
[06:02] <frt> i tried lsof -i also
[06:02] <lacrymology> holstein: how do I "revert to stock ubuntu"?
[06:02] <holstein> !info chromium-browser
[06:03] <holstein> lacrymology: you can purge the 3rd party, unsupported sources you added
[06:03] <lacrymology> holstein: and just to know, why do I need to actually REMOVE the ppa? can't I just.. don't know, uninstall the packages or something?
[06:03] <holstein> lacrymology: i use ppa purge.. and, personally i have not used bumblebee on my nvidia ion hardware
[06:03] <holstein> !ppa
[06:04] <holstein> lacrymology: you are not using ubuntu packages anymore.. so, you need to either get back to ubuntu packages, or you'll need to seek support with the creators of the packages you are using
[06:05] <lacrymology> I'll try it, but without bumblebee my laptop runs just too hot, the battery life is ridiculous, and the graphics silly
[06:05] <holstein> lacrymology: sure.. we were not promised linux would work on them
[06:06] <lacrymology> holstein: so you say I should go ahead and buy a mac?
[06:06] <holstein> lacrymology: i disable my nvidia side to get longer battery and lower heat.. "silly" is a matter of opinion
[06:07] <ethermonk> is php5-mcrypt working for any other 14.04 users?
[06:07] <holstein> lacrymology: just dont buy hardware that specificially is not supported, and is problematic in linux, and expect "good" support for linux
[06:07] <lacrymology> holstein: how, exactly? with just the intel drivers, somehow the nvidia side kept running and draining, just weren't used for actual rendering
[06:07] <holstein> lacrymology: i suggest something from system76 is you are searching for a linux machine... even if you are going to run arch or whatever
[06:07] <frt> netstat -aon | more helps
[06:07] <frt> :D
[06:07] <lacrymology> holstein: I need high end graphics, and I need them on a laptop. For work
[06:07] <lacrymology> holstein: is that a maker? system76
[06:08] <holstein> lacrymology: sure.. then, you need to make sure the hardware supports the operating system you are using.. regardless
[06:09] <Name141> Weird.  I can't type within the chromium browser
[06:09] <lacrymology> holstein: anyways, sorry can you help me with ppa-purge? How can I know the list I should be deleting?
[06:09] <Name141> only the address bar works
[06:09] <Name141> NEver mind that stopped working too
[06:10] <holstein> lacrymology: http://askubuntu.com/questions/307/how-can-ppas-be-removed
[06:10] <lacrymology> holstein: I don't have a browser right now.. no window manager, yes? :)
[06:10] <holstein> lacrymology: you can use a live CD
[06:11] <holstein> sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:whatever/ppa
[06:11] <holstein> sudo ppa-purge ppa:repository-name/subdirectory
[06:12] <ethermonk> you need a better way to describe that process holstein
[06:12] <holstein> ethermonk: go for it..
[06:12] <ethermonk> i still havent figured it out
[06:12] <holstein> ethermonk: its an open channel.. and lacrymology doesnt have access to a web browser from the install
[06:12] <holstein> ethermonk: it works as stated above..
[06:12] <lacrymology> holstein: I asked how to get the list of ppas I have to know what to uninstall, but nevermind, I'll figure it out
[06:13] <ethermonk> right but you have to understand and comprehend the words
[06:13] <holstein> lacrymology: sure.. good luck..
[06:13] <ethermonk> which i dont, and most people i have seen you give that advice to do not understand either
[06:13] <ethermonk> it seems so simple, even when reading it, but it doesnt work
[06:14] <holstein> ethermonk: works as advertised for me.. if you have an error, let a volunteer here know
[06:14] <ethermonk> i have given exact PPAs and you wont give me a working command to at least understand the syntax that you have so laxly described
[06:14] <lacrymology> holstein: just a note, it is impossible to work with just supported packages. Sorry, I understand there's no support, but it *is*. Stok node.js version is old, python version was outdated for *years* psql version was old too, just to name my most basic toolbox
[06:15] <holstein> ethermonk: thats all there is to it.. that is the syntax above, friend
[06:15] <lacrymology> git was outdated as well, last time I checked
[06:15] <holstein> also, keep in mind, they are 3rd part non-supported sources.. you get a warning when adding them
[06:15] <Jordan_U> lacrymology: ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[06:16] <holstein> lacrymology: sure.. but, we dont support ppa's here, and cant.. they can break the system, or go out dated.. and cause the breakage you see
[06:16] <ethermonk> holstein, can you PLEASE (i am really begging) the EXACT verbatim command to remove http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/xorg-edgers so that i can at least stop complaining to you about this?
[06:16] <Jordan_U> lacrymology: Please also pastebin the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log and the output of "dmesg".
[06:17] <holstein> sudo ppa-purge ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa  ... that should do the trick, ethermonk
[06:17] <holstein> ethermonk: if not, be sure you seek support with the creators of the code you are using
[06:17] <Sachiru> Are filesystem ACLs (as designated by setfacl) honored by Samba?
[06:17] <ethermonk> holstein, thank you. that is what i have done so i can now assume this is a personal problem
[06:18] <Jordan_U> Sachiru: What do you mean by "honored"?
[06:20] <Sachiru> For instance if I set a group to have read access to a file via setfacl, if I share the file over samba can group members see the shared file?
[06:23] <lacrymology> Jordan_U: I can't pastebin, I don't have a desktop environment. Well, there's a desktop environment, but no window manager, so pretty useless. And also I've killed and rerun X several time this session, but if I end up rebooting, I'll do that
[06:24] <bekks> !pastebinit
[06:24] <holstein> lacrymology: safe graphics mode
[06:25] <sudormrf> hey guys.  I seem to be having some major dns issues right now.  is anyone around to help me figure out what is going on? :S
[06:25] <bekks> sudormrf: ask a support question first.
[06:25] <lacrymology> holstein: tried that already, didn't work. Really, I'm just going to run the release upgrade and hope for the best. If that doesn't work, we'll see.
[06:25] <bekks> lacrymology: which release are you on?
[06:26] <lacrymology> bekks: 1310
[06:26] <lacrymology> silly question.. what will they do with naming once they reach the z?
[06:26] <bekks> lacrymology: release upgrade wont fix errors magically.
[06:27] <lacrymology> bekks: it should reset most of my packages to stock versions, and reconfigure the desktop environment, I think?
[06:27] <bekks> lacrymology: wrong.
[06:27] <ethermonk> i think i've found a bug in 14.04 but i need some one to confirm
[06:27] <bekks> lacrymology: you should not touch a single config, but you should read the logs.
[06:28] <bekks> ethermonk: submit it, and then it will be confirmed.
[06:29] <jackarius86> how come i cant google using curl?
[06:29] <ethermonk> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php-mcrypt/+bug/1318021
[06:30] <Jordan_U> Serano: I believe so yes.
[06:30] <jackarius86> whenever i google something using curl i get a 403 forbidden response
[06:30] <ethermonk> im not confident in the bug report and i was hopeing some one out there had the time and love in their heart to share
[06:30] <bekks> ethermonk: "...and doing my work."? :)
[06:31] <ethermonk> how is poointing out a MAJOR flaw in the ubuntu server system a sign of my laziness?
[06:31] <c107_male> How do I get the old Humanity themes from 2007?
[06:32] <bekks> ethermonk: calling php major is exxagerating :)
[06:33] <sudormrf> bekks: I don’t know what is wrong, exactly.  Basically bind is running but something is wrong with it.  at least that is how it feels
[06:33] <bekks> sudormrf: then start with a support question. your description of feelings about bind is irrelevant.
[06:34] <sudormrf> bekks: not describing my “Feelings” of bind.  bind is great, something is wrong in my setup.
[06:35] <bekks> sudormrf: define "something" then.
[06:36] <robotdevil> so 14.04 is horrible
[06:36] <sudormrf> bekks: my clients are intermittently having issues connecting to other clients.  I did a ping -c 1 8.8.8.8 and it failed.  did a traceroute -q 1 8.8.8.8 and it worked.  I then did a ping -c 1 8.8.8.8 again and it went through just fine
[06:37] <robotdevil> mencoder is broken as well
[06:38] <Jordan_U> robotdevil: Please stick to support questions and leave out the ranting.
[06:39] <bekks> sudormrf: if "ping ipadress" fails, it isnt a dns issue, bur a networking issue.
[06:39] <sudormrf> bekks: it failed then it worked.
[06:39] <Titussss> hello. I want to ask u sth. Can i put openbox into ubuntu?
[06:39] <sudormrf> bekks: almost immediately after
[06:41] <Jordan_U> Titussss: Yes. You can use any Window Manager you'd like.
[06:41] <bekks> sudormrf: It is still not a bind issue.
[06:42] <Titussss> ok thank u very much.
[06:42] <Titussss> see ya:) have a nice day:)
[06:42] <sudormrf> bekks: I am confused.  could you please enlighten me as to why?
[06:42] <bekks> sudormrf: because it isnt a bind issue-
[06:42] <sudormrf> bekks: that isn’t a reason.
[06:43] <sudormrf> bekks: I believe you that it isn’t a bind issue, but I would like to know why.
[06:43] <bekks> sudormrf: It is a reason. If you cant ping 8.8.8.8 it isnt a bind issue because bind isnt even involved.
[06:44] <sudormrf> bekks: hmm.  so if the same thing were to happen for google.com then it would be a bind issue, yah?
[06:45] <robotdevil> handbrake (neutered), mencoder - MPlayer was compiled without libfaac, ffmpeg is forked and all the gui programs that need it dont work including winff which uses avconv and doesnt work either, k9copy is removed just cause it not developed anymore, ffmpeg is in ppa and is missing options, avidemux is really muxed up (see above) horrible bugs, absolutely nothing ive tried today works, dvdrip cant find ffmpeg,
[06:45] <bekks> sudormrf: if the ping ipaddress would work all the time, but ping name wouldnt, then it would be a bind issue.
[06:45] <bekks> sudormrf: as long as ping ipadress works flaky, it isnt a dns issue.
[06:45] <sudormrf> bekks: ok. going to do some more digging.
[06:45] <sudormrf> bekks: thanks :)
[06:47] <ethermonk> bekks, php on on a server is an important feature, if php doesnt work how useful is that as a webserver?
[06:49] <bekks> ethermonk: there are zillions of other sane reasons than "webserver".
[06:50] <Jordan_U> robotdevil: One simple option for backing up DVD's, though clearly not terribly space efficient, is to just copy the VIDEO_TS directory as-is.
[06:51] <sudormrf> bekks: sorry, one more question.  one of my clients isn’t receiving the appropriate info in the resolv.conf
[06:51] <sudormrf> bekks: it’s actually receiving nothing
[06:52] <robotdevil> Jordan_U: yes and i know a lot of the things I am trying to do are dated but its so frustrating
[06:52] <sudormrf> bekks: if I manually enter it things work, but upon reboot it gets overwritten
[06:56] <sudormrf> I am going to hit the hay.  will work on this tomorrow
[06:56] <robotdevil> Jordan_U: I havent got around to Blueray yet are the directory structure the same or not at all
[06:56] <ethermonk> seriously? are you serious? what is wrong with you ppl?
[06:57] <vashidu> so great to be back
[06:57] <cfhowlett> ethermonk dial back the attitude
[07:05] <ethermonk> im becoming disillusioned. one of the most common enmbedded video processors in business machines is limited to 1024x768. studio is ment for artists but only supports 24bit color. server doesnt support mcrypt. i want to keep using ubuntu but it's going to get me fired.
[07:08] <robotdevil> ethermonk: something about the eye can only see that much anyway I think, 32 bit is false, but I could be incorrect
[07:08] <Monotoko> ethermonk, use what's right for the job
[07:09] <bekks> ethermonk: whats that "most common enmbedded video processors in business most common enmbedded video processors in business" actually? Which application?
[07:09] <cfhowlett> ethermonk THIS ^^^
[07:09] <bekks> robotdevil: a human eye can just resolve about one million colors, so even 24bit cant be seen by a human eye :)
[07:10] <ethermonk> cfhowlett, you are more qualified to understand that the intel ICH9 chipset is still in use on a vast number of business machines
[07:10] <helmut_> hi
[07:10] <PxlVision> those underwater creatures have better sensors than us :(
[07:10] <bekks> ethermonk: ICH9 is not a graphics chipset at all. So your complaint is invalid.
[07:10] <ethermonk> ich9 was commonly paired with the g31/g33
[07:11] <cfhowlett> ethermonk "business machines"  ... I'd say such are not the preferred machine in ANY graphics studio.
[07:11] <ethermonk> and GMA3100
[07:11] <bekks> ethermonk: which is a wrong assumption. ICH9 is the successor of PIIX.
[07:11] <robotdevil> couldnt remember the answer, just remember something about it when I first started down linux, wondered why the wasnt a 32 bit option
[07:11] <Oog> will running aptitude upgrade fix the newest ssl issue?
[07:11] <cfhowlett> Oog sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:12] <Oog> what does that do vs aptitude upgrade
[07:12] <bekks> ethermonk: And the Intel GMA chipsets were used by several chipset manufacturers and were added to the mainboards, by per design, the ICH9 is not a graphics chipset. As you said yourself, the Intel GMA is.
[07:12] <ethermonk> any one who has spent a lot of time working with business systems w/ embedded graphics should be familiar with the g31/g33 / GMA3100. these are common chipsets in the workplace
[07:12] <Oog> cfhowlett: im using 13.10 not sure i want to upgrade to 14.04
[07:12] <Oog> i dont know what all that will have in it
[07:12] <ethermonk> php is common in webservers and the mcrypt is common to php installations
[07:13] <bekks> ethermonk: And it is wrong that those chipsets are limited to 1024x768, as well.
[07:13] <ethermonk> you ppl are being more rediculous than me. this is not good.
[07:13] <cfhowlett> Oog that will NOT upgrade the distro version - only brings current version's available packages.  see the references:  https://www.dropbox.com/sh/rdojg5enhnv3gxp/AAD-YtiG8aSjEu7X3N6Ju5xna
[07:13] <bekks> ethermonk: If you cant stand if other people correct your misinformation - I am not even sorry for not helping you anymore. Good luck.
[07:14] <cfhowlett> ethermonk suggest you dail back the attitude
[07:14] <cfhowlett> ethermonk and if you don't like the current crop of hardware - buy a different computer!
[07:14] <ethermonk> bekks, then can i get some help? i have an armada of systems that run g31/g33 and all are limited to 1024x768.  shortly after 14.04 was released this issue was resloved but about a month ago the resolution issue popped up again in all systems all makes and models, clean installs, upgrades it doesnt matter
[07:15] <ethermonk> cfhowlett, you dont seem to understand that i represent thousands of business customers
[07:15] <bekks> ethermonk: Read the two last sentences again: I will not help you anymore. Good luck.
[07:15] <ethermonk> not at this company but around the world
[07:15] <bekks> ethermonk: you attitude made me refuse to help you any further, think about it.
[07:15] <ethermonk> no. this is unacceptable. canonical would not be pleased
[07:16] <bekks> ethermonk: This is _community_ support. If you dont like it, dont use. If you want business support, purchase it.
[07:16] <sysmon> lol
[07:16] <cfhowlett> !attitude|ethermonk
[07:17] <ethermonk> you can refuse to help me that is fine. but you must undertand that for my rant there are thousands like me who tried your product and got a horrible impression and then spread their bad experience to anyone and everyone they can
[07:17] <bekks> ethermonk: I dont need to understand any further rants from you. Good bye. Ignore set.
[07:17] <wilee-nilee> now where is that diazepam
[07:17] <cfhowlett> ethermonk please do continue this rant in #ubuntu-offtopic so that we can provide actual support in this channel  thank you.
[07:18] <lacrymology> ok, so I was able to start the server with a really old kernel (3.5.0-45) and Gnome desktop environment. Sort of. With a gazillion error messages, but at least there's a window manager
[07:18] <lacrymology> http://pastebin.com/CPc2SXu2  << there's dmesg, and Xorg.x.log
[07:19] <jmadero> hi all, I made a script that I want to run a single command in terminal
[07:20] <wacky_35016> I just installed linux noob here WARNING lol
[07:20] <jmadero> encfs ~/Public/.encrypted ~/Public/visible
[07:20] <jmadero> just want that to run in terminal and then the password prompt to come up
[07:20] <Sachiru> Query: Assume that a folder has 055 as permissions, can root see said folder?
[07:21] <bekks> Sachiru: Sure.
[07:21] <bekks> Sachiru: User ID 0 can do that.
[07:22] <Sachiru> Anyone else besides the owner, owning group and root can't see the folder, I assume?
[07:22] <Sachiru> If the permissions are 055
[07:22] <ethermonk_> this is important. it bears repeating if the message did get through: you can refuse to help me that is fine. but you must undertand that for my rant there are thousands like me who tried your product and got a horrible impression and then spread their bad experience to anyone and everyone they can
[07:22] <bekks> Sachiru: Everyone can see that.
[07:22] <bekks> ethermonk_:ignore set.
[07:22] <jmadero> ethermonk_: seriously you're not talking to the makers of the "product"
[07:22] <cfhowlett> ethermonk_ yes we see you.  this is not the channel for this discussion.  please take it to ubuntu-offtopic
[07:22] <jmadero> ethermonk_: agreed - take care, bye (ignore)
[07:23] <Sachiru> Hmm.
[07:23] <Sachiru> How do I set it so that only root, the owner and the owner's group can see the folder?
[07:23] <Sachiru> What permission set would that be?
[07:24] <wilee-nilee> ethermonk_, And anyone that can critically think will take that with a grain of salt at best.
[07:24] <bekks> Sachiru: 600. Owner can read/write, all other cant even see it. And 700 for directories, which need execution permissions.
[07:25] <jmadero> how do I make it so a script is run on double click instead of it opening with text editor upon double click
[07:27] <Sachiru> Ah crud
[07:27] <rogo> Hi. I like to use Sketchup. It launches and works until it wants to use Opengl. I can't get to the screen with 3D draw stuff.  The command I use to launch my sketchup is: env WINEPREFIX="/home/rogo/.local/share/wineprefixes/sketchup"  LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.1.2.0" wine C:\\Program\ Files\ \(x86\)\\Google\\Google\ SketchUp\ 8\\SketchUp.exe -opengl
[07:27] <Sachiru> Forgot, its user/group/all for permissions, I thought it was all/group/user.
[07:27] <Sachiru> Thanks, bekks
[07:28] <rogo> it gives 2 errors when I try to go to the 3D draw screen of Sketchup: http://roelaro21.twentyone.axc.nl/press/opengl_not_found.png
[07:32] <rogo> wait: I should have the solution: http://wiki.winehq.org/Sketchup
[07:32] <innocent95> Morning !
[07:33] <aeon-ltd> jmadero: make it executable with chmod
[07:33] <aeon-ltd> jmadero: chmod +x pathtofile.extension (iirc)
[07:33] <innocent95> Hey apple becomes far away, what ubuntu decided to do :P ?
[07:34] <cfhowlett> innocent95 what is your ubuntu support question?
[07:35] <zadre> hi all
[07:36] <innocent95> wholesales support
[07:36] <innocent95> hi zadre
[07:37] <cfhowlett> innocent95 "wholesale" support?  Not sure what that is, but Canonical offers paid commercial support.
[07:37] <rogo> omg! It works!! I love Ubuntu now!!
[07:37] <rogo> :))))))
[07:42] <wilee-nilee> Thorium220, turn off the away
[07:43] <andlabs> Hi. How do i build packages downloaded with apt-get source? I want to test some bugfix someone sent. Thanks
[07:43] <cfhowlett> !build|andlabs
[07:44] <andlabs> I'm aware of all that
[07:44] <andlabs> I'm talking about apt-get source tarballs
[07:44] <andlabs> is there a special set of steps to build and install over an existing installation?
[07:45] <wilee-nilee> andlabs, end goal?
[07:45] <andlabs> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333983#c4
[07:45] <andlabs> to test this patch
[07:48] <ilham22> tes
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[07:48] <unopaste> ilham22 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[07:49] <andlabs> the patch here is against oxygen-gtk3
[07:49] <ilham22> ubuntu_geeks
[07:50] <ilham22> hoolaa
[07:50] <ilham22> any body here?
[07:51] <wilee-nilee> ilham22, this is support if you have an issue state it.
[07:52] <ilham22> wilee-nilee, oh isee
[07:52] <ilham22> ilhamtaufiqgo.blogspot.com <--- my official blog
[07:52] <wilee-nilee> !ot | ilham22
[07:53] <wilee-nilee> ilham22, That is spam here
[07:53] <ilham22> so, what should i do?
[07:53] <Trudko> guys how can I list files starting with certain letter like M in command line?
[07:53] <andlabs> maybe I should ask again later when more people are active?
[07:53] <andlabs> Trudko: ls x*
[07:53] <wilee-nilee> ilham22, stop posting unless you want to help someone, or address a support issue.
[07:54] <Trudko> andlabs: ty
[07:54] <ilham22> ok, i want ask something. can i play windows program in linux?
[07:54] <wilee-nilee> !wine | ilham22
[07:55] <ilham22> oh, any program?
[07:55] <andlabs> yeah I have ot head out now anyway, so I'll ask later; thanks anyway
[07:56] <wilee-nilee> ilham22, More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Se
[07:56] <ilham22> oke thank
[07:57] <ilham22> can i change the room?
[08:08] <jmadero> hi all - I wrote a really simple script for my wife to double click on to mount an encrypted folder
[08:08] <jmadero> unfortunately it's not working - never asks for the password
[08:08] <jmadero> by really simple I mean a single line: terminal -e encfs ~/Public/.encrypted ~/Public/visible
[08:22] <slax0r> hello, I'm installing ubuntu 14.04 on this laptop: http://www.cnet.com/products/hp-g62-340us-15-6-athlon-ii-p340-windows-7-home-premium-64-bit-3-gb-ram-320-gb-hdd/specs/ I already had issues with installing it, but using nomodeset helps with installing, but now the whole this is so slow like hell :/
[08:27] <wilee-nilee> slax0r, Take a look here. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[08:27] <slax0r> wilee-nilee: I did...
[08:27] <slax0r> I still have no clue
[08:29] <wilee-nilee> slax0r, Not an area I know well but I suspect it is a hd graphic issue, you have a Radeon HD 4250 this is mentioned in tha link.
[08:29] <wilee-nilee> that*
[08:29] <nashant> I don't suppose anyone here has a Samsung 840 EVO do they?
[08:30] <slax0r> wilee-nilee: yeah, but the list state that this chip has good 3d support
[08:30] <wilee-nilee> slax0r, Really just claiming slow is not really much to work with here for anyone.
[08:31] <wilee-nilee> slax0r, This is about the slowest part here time wise, daytime US and European time has more regular helpers on.
[08:34] <slax0r> I know... I need time to get the debug info and paste them somewhere... but, here it goes, output of glxinfo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7606635
[08:34] <slax0r> would it help with the speed if I somehow disabled compiz? is this doable in ubuntu?
[08:35] <wilee-nilee> slax0r, Unity is a plugin in compiz, no compiz no unity
[08:35] <slax0r> that I know, I supose ubuntu doesn't come preinstalled with any other DE right?
[08:36] <wilee-nilee> slax0r, You can install other DE, there are specific desktop installs yes.
[08:37] <wilee-nilee> xubuntu, lubuntu, kubuntu, and gnome shell 3rd party, and about 50 in all de options.
[08:38] <slax0r> well, this isn't for me, it's my brothers computer, he knows unity
[08:38] <slax0r> I just hope he'll get used to xfce
[08:41] <monkwitdafunk> Hi #ubuntu
[08:42] <lacrymology> good morning, vietnam
[08:42] <monkwitdafunk> I cannot remember if ubuntu precise alternate has luks encryption LVM
[08:42] <monkwitdafunk> 12.04.3
[08:43] <monkwitdafunk> with ubuntu trusty, i think the software abandoned sata 2
[08:43] <monkwitdafunk> 14.04
[08:44] <luckybunny> Managed to get an xorg log that might go some way to explaining my blackscreening on boot
[08:44] <luckybunny> http://pastebin.com/f3crFB5F
[08:44] <luckybunny> dualbooting does have its uses after all
[08:45] <wilee-nilee> luckybunny, What release is this?
[08:45] <luckybunny> trusty
[08:46] <luckybunny> it's trusty, dualbooted on a windows 8 laptop. it works, in general. Obviously I can't say it works 100% otherwise I wouldn't be here
[08:47] <wilee-nilee> luckybunny, Not sure the issue but that is a rather old kernel, not even part of the trusty release.
[08:48] <luckybunny> hmmm. could that have been put there by boot-repair?
[08:48]  * luckybunny doubts it
[08:48] <wilee-nilee> luckybunny, what does uname -a show kernel wise
[08:49] <luckybunny> I wouldn't know since i can't actually log in to the ubuntu partition just yet
[08:49] <luckybunny> I can get a root shell
[08:49] <wilee-nilee> luckybunny, the shell is fine
[08:49] <luckybunny> ok.. bb in a few, probably on desktop
[08:49] <lacrymology> can someone help me with ppa-purge?
[08:50] <wilee-nilee> !ppa-purge | lacrymology
[08:52] <luckybunny> 3.8.0-35-generic
[08:52] <nashant> Does is mean that my SSD is dead if I can't secure erase it?
[08:53] <luckybunny> wilee-nilee: ^
[08:53] <wilee-nilee> luckybunny, In that shell run sudo apt-get update than sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  I noticed the conversation you had with another user yesterday and the update and upgrade seemed to be an issue
[08:53] <wilee-nilee> nashant, How are you secure erasing it?
[08:54] <nashant> wilee-nilee, with the official samsung boot tool
[08:55] <wilee-nilee> nashant, I would ask them about their tool, but a live dvd/usb has a smart check in disks
[08:55] <luckybunny> nothing to upgrade, apparently
[08:55] <wilee-nilee> luckybunny, hmm, that is strange, how long has this been installed?
[08:56] <luckybunny> just a couple of days
[08:56] <wilee-nilee> luckybunny, what does lsb_release -a as far as release
[08:57] <wilee-nilee> say
[08:57] <luckybunny> wtf... raring
[08:57] <luckybunny> 13.04
[08:57] <wilee-nilee> luckybunny, that is eol, no repo access
[08:58] <luckybunny> hmmm I thought 13.04 was quantal
[08:58] <wilee-nilee> luckybunny, Did you do an upgrade from 12.04
[08:58] <luckybunny> nope. clean install from usb
[08:59] <wilee-nilee> !raring
[08:59] <luckybunny> ah
[08:59] <wilee-nilee> luckybunny, I would get a 14.04 download and install it.
[08:59] <luckybunny> I would too
[08:59] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[08:59] <luckybunny> pretty darn sure I downloaded trusty
[09:00] <luckybunny> in fact, since raring is unlikely to be available on ubuntu's website, likelihood says I probably did download trusty
[09:00] <nashant> wilee-nilee, sorry I missed whatever you might have said. Kicked the power cable out of my router while getting my server out
 nashant, I would ask them about their tool, but a live dvd/usb has a smart check in disks
[09:01] <kafui> hello any radius attributes to throttle pptp throughput of users
[09:01] <nashant> yeah, I ran smartctl. The test stopped as being interrupted
[09:02] <wilee-nilee> nashant, I can't say for sure if fried, all you can do is test.
[09:04] <nashant> wilee-nilee, great. It's now in a frozen state
[09:04] <wilee-nilee> nashant, This on a live session?
[09:05] <nashant> wilee-nilee, nope. Still the samsung tool
[09:05] <wilee-nilee> nashant, Have you run a live, it might be a memory problem, or other hardware, just ideas, you can do a memory check on the live.
[09:06] <sergey_> I just installed Ubuntu server 14.04 32bit. My system freezes while shutting down or reboot. Last message on screen: "Stopping System V runlevel compatibility". How to fix it?
[09:07] <nashant> wilee-nilee, I think I'll do that. Might take a while with 24G
[09:08] <wilee-nilee> I would suspect yes, awhile.
[09:09] <luckybunny> I think I've just realised how I ended up with raring
[09:09] <luckybunny> when I downloaded the iso, I probably had an old raring iso lying around in my downloads folder
[09:10]  * luckybunny slow-claps self
[09:10] <wilee-nilee> luckybunny, lol, for the claps
[09:11] <luckybunny> note to self: always check the file age
[09:12] <wilee-nilee> sergey_, just info #ubuntu-server
[09:19]  * luckybunny ran do-release-upgrade
[09:19] <luckybunny> putting saucy on now. next stop trusty
[09:21] <TuxRescue> maybe that is offtopic here but i think all these people who work on ubuntu do an amazing job
[09:21] <TuxRescue> it has become a shiny operating system
[09:21] <luckybunny> it is indeed great
[09:21] <luckybunny> and that's coming from an ex unity-hater
[09:22] <TuxRescue> yes
[09:22] <TuxRescue> exactly
[09:22] <luckybunny> I was butthurt about having to move on from gnome 2
[09:22] <luckybunny> but I did eventually
[09:22] <TuxRescue> i tried even CentOS and PC-BSD until i gave Trusty another chance
[09:23] <TuxRescue> i am glad that i did
[09:23] <wilee-nilee> lol, get a room
[09:26] <davpra> ¡Hola!
[09:26] <Wissard> Que onda, don guey?
[09:26] <Wissard> Jajaja.
[09:27] <davpra> :) bueno, a ver si alguien puede ayudarme con el ventilador del protátil...
[09:27] <davpra> he leído varios post, pero sin solución
[09:28] <Ben64> !es | davpra
[09:28] <davpra> fine, I need help with the laptop fan
[09:29] <Wissard> What's wrong with your portable fan?
[09:29] <davpra> I've read a lot of post but didn't work
[09:29] <davpra> the fan is very noisy
[09:30] <Wissard> Is it dusty?
[09:30] <davpra> No, it isn't
[09:30] <davpra> i'm affraid it could be something with frequency or so...
[09:31] <Wissard> Perhaps it's supposed to run that loud. I know that certain cheap fans run loudly. It's not that they're broken, it's just that they run like that.
[09:31] <one23> hello. im trying to connect from smartphone to ubuntu 14 desktop with vnc. any recomandation on vnc server?
[09:32] <davpra> well, thanks.... i'll try in ubuntu-es... :)
[09:32] <davpra> bye
[09:41] <streppel> hey all. i'm having some troubles gettings autofs to work. i previously used an fstab entry to mount my cifs-share and that worked great, but it kept the nas from going into sleep-mode, so this is why i'd like to switch to autofs.
[09:42] <streppel> i copied over the config file i used for fstab and kept all the parameters as i had troubles getting it to work in the first place
[09:43] <streppel> my entry in the map-file looks like this
[09:43] <streppel> timecapsule -fstype=cifs,sec=ntlm,domain=WORKGROUP,username=MYUSER,password=MYPW,nounix,rw,iocharset=utf8,noperm,cache=none ://192.168.2.4/MYUSER
[09:49] <MagicSpud> hello I dont know why my image is not showing anyone would help? http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=72356
[09:50] <MagicSpud> perhaps it is a permissions issue... the image I put in the www/var/M09PHPprojects/libros_en_txt folder wich is where the html file also is
[09:55] <MagicSpud> okay fixed! /var/www was redundant
[09:57] <nashant> I am right in thinking that in a system with 24G ram and 500G SSD space I don't need swap, right?
[10:05] <robotdevil> can someone tell me how to get the non-neutered version of handbrake
[10:07] <robotdevil> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2198780
[10:07] <robotdevil> lmao
[10:11] <robotdevil> oh btw the ppa is 32bit
[10:12] <robotdevil> is anyone else getting firefox losing where it is by pressing back button? eg. goes back twice
[10:15] <planetmaker> I'm sure anyone who complains is happy to pay the license / patent fees for the mp4 format :)
[10:17] <robotdevil> is that what the issue is?
[10:18] <planetmaker> I don't know. But were I to write such software it would
[10:18] <planetmaker> 20ct per copy downloaded or sold
[10:18] <one23> im trying to turn my smrtphone into a remote control for ubuntu 14. any clue?
[10:18] <daniel311> happy saturday people. I'm having a problem with my computer. please help me. I am running 13.04 which I think is no longer supported? triggered the update process. packages downloaded successfully and installed successfully then I rebooted my computer. all well. then at the login screen there was a power cut. now ubuntu loads fine but there my primary monitor is black with a faint blue rectangle at the top. secondary is fine. when I type my password it log
[10:19] <daniel311> one23 - sorry for the stupid question but Have you tried looking for apps to do this in the app store? there should be plenty there, along with install instructions.
[10:20] <daniel311> not sure if I should trigger the update in the hope the problem goes away or what..?
[10:21] <planetmaker> daniel311, try? :)
[10:21] <daniel311> try.. smiling? I'm trying planetmaker, believe me.
[10:22] <planetmaker> :) No, I mean try to trigger the upgrade anew. Some upgrade scripts which needed to run after reboot might not have finished. Dunno
[10:22] <one23> i only found vnc, the rest are windows/mac
[10:23] <daniel311> will do. I was put off because apt-get update ends in "Some index files failed to download" which seemed like it might be important..
[10:23] <planetmaker> maybe, yes...
[10:23] <daniel311> one23 are you sure? I'm sure I came across a cool-looking ubuntu remote for android recently...
[10:24] <daniel311> planetmaker: Hmm. My commands are apt-get update, apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade, right? all "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded"
[10:26] <one23> i will look again
[10:26] <planetmaker> that sounds ok to me, daniel311
[10:26] <daniel311> but i'm still on 13.04! :-S
[10:26] <daniel311> I mean 13.04 is okay by me, but to work I just do actually need to be able to actually see my primary monitor and stuff!
[10:27] <bekks> So upgrade to a supported release, then ask again.
[10:27] <planetmaker> bekks, that was the idea, as I understand :)
[10:28] <bekks> !eolupgrade | daniel311
[10:28] <daniel311> do-release-upgrade? thanks I'm on it now. thought it was apt-get dist-upgrade.
[10:29] <bekks> daniel311: dist-upgrade doesnt do release upgrades.
[10:29] <yakiza> Hello i am try to play a game and before i open it i get an error  somethink for opelGL
[10:30] <daniel311> by-by-by am I right in thinking that ubuntu releases are named annually? so we'll be seeing 16.x in 2016?
[10:31] <daniel311> yakiza what is your error?
[10:32] <daniel311> and what is the game?
[10:32] <yakiza> let me copy paste and ser you
[10:32] <yakiza> sent
[10:32] <daniel311> paste it to the main channel. if its a long error, you should use a service like pastebin.
[10:32] <yakiza> c\
[10:32] <yakiza> c
[10:32] <yakiza> c
[10:32] <yakiza> c
[10:32] <yakiza> sr
[10:33] <yakiza> could not find required Opengl poing 'glgeterror;;! either your video card is unsupported or your opengl drievers need to be updatee
[10:34] <reaper> Hi all, i have a probably simple to fix issue but i can not find the answer myself. I am getting an error on my windows pc on the network :     "The name "WORKGROUP      :1d" could not be registered on the interface with IP address x.x.x.x The computer with the IP address x.x.x.x did not allow the name to be claimed by this computer." As well as once this error is reported in windows the pc loses internet for about 5 or 10 seconds
[10:35] <reaper> the computer that is not allowing it is my linux pc
[10:37] <vorburger> hello - what's the best / correct IRC channel to get help with an UEFI dual boot mess?
[10:37] <daniel311> reaper are you all on DHCP? you can probably solve this problem with using permanent IP address allocations from your router.
[10:38] <reaper> i already thought of that step and i have that already configured in the router
[10:38] <luckybunny> upgrading to saucy went well... initiating upgrade to trusty
[10:38] <daniel311> reaper are your machines obeying
[10:38] <daniel311> ?
[10:38] <luckybunny> I have a GUI.... but no actual environment
[10:38] <reaper> how do i verify the ip address on linux?
[10:39] <reaper> command line that is
[10:39] <daniel311> ifconfig is the easiest if you're happy using terminal. other wise click on the network icon thingy
[10:39] <dohzer> it's beer'o'clock!
[10:40] <daniel311> vorburger here I guess? talk about your problem. someone might be able to help.
[10:41] <reaper> daniel311 yes its verified that they ARE using the predefined ip config in the router
[10:42] <daniel311> reaper - both of them? could it be that the windows machine (which is complaining) simply hadn't had time for the permanent assignment to take effect? iirc that wouldnt take effect until the next time the DHCP lease comes up for re-assignment…
[10:42] <daniel311> *renewal, sorry
[10:42] <reaper> daniel311 this event/issue has been ongoing for over 4 or 5 days
[10:43] <daniel311> and you put the permanent DHCP settings into your router 4 or 5 days ago?
[10:43] <reaper> yes and all routers and devices have been rebooted as well
[10:43] <reaper> many times
[10:44] <lal> hi all
[10:45] <reaper> daniel311 and on the windows i get a seperate error something about the master browser has stopped or something
[10:45] <daniel311> reaper: so if I understand correctly you've told your router tha tthe MAC address used by your windows machien should get such an such an IP - say 192.168.1.10 and your ubuntu machine should get say 192.168.1.11. and you've verified that your windows machine gets e.g. 192.168.1.10 and your linux machine gets e.g. 192.168.1.11. Yet your windows machine complains that it cant register its network name with IP address 192.168.1.11????
[10:46] <gry> lal: hi.
[10:46] <reaper> daniel311 here is the verbatum error in windows log
[10:46] <gry> reaper: I think you can see an ip address in 'ifconfig'
[10:46] <reaper> daniel311 The name "WORKGROUP      :1d" could not be registered on the interface with IP address 10.0.0.2. The computer with the IP address 10.0.0.8 did not allow the name to be claimed by this computer.
[10:46] <lal> i have various problems with various python or python related packages and don't really know how to fix them here is the error from the apt-get -f install command http://pastebin.com/8q02DPAM if someone could take a look at it and make some suggestions
[10:47] <vorburger> I'm doing a fresh 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) install on a new laptop that had Win 8 with UEFI on GPT pre-installed, and I'd like to dual boot. Because I want to use encryption, I did Installation type Something else, created the crypt container etc. and a /boot partition. I've put grub 2 into my /boot. Now it keeps booting Windows, with no option for Linux, which is probably normal? Some posts suggest the use of some Windows tool called Eas
[10:47] <vorburger> yBCD, which I've tried and gotten it to add a Linux menu entry to the UEFI menu, but selecting that leads to some AutoNeoGrub0.mbr 0xc000000f.. :( How do you do such a set-up correct? I don't really care about EasyBCD obviously, and other solution that works (and allows me to dual boot into the existing Windows 8 UEFI..) would be MUCH APPRECIATED!  I could post Linux Boot Repair tool info, if that helps to proceed?
[10:47] <reaper> daniel311 *.2 is the windows pc and *.8 is the linux
[10:47] <bekks> reaper: which ip does your ubuntu have?
[10:47] <daniel311> reaper: can you just confirm to me that your router is assigning 10.0.0.2 to windows machine's MAC address and 10.0.0.8 to your linux machine's mac address?
[10:47] <reaper> daniel311 yes
[10:48] <reaper> daniel311 reaper@reaper:~$ ifconfig
[10:48] <reaper> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:14:22:d6:33:f1
[10:48] <reaper>           inet addr:10.0.0.8
[10:48] <reaper> bekks *.8
[10:48] <daniel311> yes, but its the windows machien which is the one we care most about since its the one thats complaining. ipconfig on windows.
[10:48] <reaper> its the same ip
[10:49] <reaper> *.2
[10:49] <daniel311> try changing your windows machine's network name - right-click my computer, properties, go from there.
[10:50] <reaper> so take it onto a different workgroup if im understanding correctly
[10:50] <bekks> reaper: are the names identical on windows and linux?
[10:50] <reaper> bekks No
[10:50] <reaper> bekks one is named reaper the other mobile
[10:51] <daniel311> no, I wouldnt nessesarily suggest going that far. you could if you think it would help but you might hve problems with file sharing. just change the computer's network name for now. e.g. your linux machine is named reaper (since your prompt is reaper@reaper). my windows machine is named durandal after an AI in a computer game. many peoples windows machines are named e.g. DanielPC or something. thats what you want to change since its part of your error.
[10:52] <daniel311> if it still doesnt help then yes change the workgroup too. its the same tab in windows system properties iirc, unless theyve changed it.
[10:52] <reaper> its all the same area
[10:52] <daniel311> yes it is
[10:54] <daniel311> if that still doesnt work, change your linux machine's IP address and DHCP lease settings on the router. see if the windows machine follows your linux machine's address with the error. like that annoying kid at school who always wants to sit in your seat on the bus just to be annoying. "but I want THAT ONE!"
[10:54] <daniel311> *change to something random I should say, like 10.0.0.99
[10:54] <reaper> ok 1 sec going to reboot the windows pc and see if it helps
[10:54] <bekks> ipconfig /release /all; ipconfig /renew; <- in windows.
[10:55] <daniel311> and then wait an age because apparently renewing an IP address is a Very Hard Task in windows.. :-(
[10:55] <reaper> i know all that bekks i changed the workgroup domain as well
[10:57] <bekks> If you changed the workgroup as wll, you will have no change to access another netbios workgroup.
[11:00] <reaper> bekks personally that doesnt matter since the ubuntu install is being used as a shell box for a standalone teamspeak voice server ONLY
[11:02] <bekks> reaper: Personally, it DOES matter, since you need to be in the same netbios workgroup for accessing a share.
[11:03] <Brulez> Hey guys, how can I create a bootable USB in linux? I used LIVEUSB Install but when I try to reboot it still loads normally. What am I doing wrong?
[11:03] <bekks> !usb | Brulez
[11:04] <Brulez> Bekks: I already have Ubuntu, I want to install another distro. I want to create a bootable USB so that when I reboot, it loads the USB
[11:05] <cfhowlett> !usb|Brulez
[11:06] <Brulez> cfhowlett: I ALREADY HAVE UBUNTU
[11:06] <cfhowlett> Brulez understood.  no need to shout. install it to a persistent USB
[11:06] <daniel311> brulez, I'm sure the advice will be similar for any linux distro.
[11:06] <reaper> bekks what share is there to access on a stand alone server? the ONLY thing it needs to do is talk to the outside world. Not any other pc in the house... i NEVER get on Ubuntu unless its for the teamspeak server...
[11:06] <Brulez> Yes it would, I I'm unable to make it load from USB though.
[11:07] <bekks> reaper: then why are you messing around with windows?
[11:07] <daniel311> brulez: you see on that page (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick) it says "Creating a bootable Ubuntu USB flash drive from Ubuntu
[11:07] <daniel311> ". Just follow those instructions with any distro you need.
[11:07] <reaper> bekks because the ubuntu was misbehaving and causing errors on my windows
[11:08] <reaper> bekks did you not get a chance to read the original lines?
[11:08] <reaper> daniel311 The name "WORKGROUP      :1d" could not be registered on the interface with IP address 10.0.0.2. The computer with the IP address 10.0.0.8 did not allow the name to be claimed by this computer.
[11:08] <bekks> reaper: i did. but I cant figure out a big picture yet.
[11:08] <reaper> sorry repost with wrong name
[11:09] <reaper> when that is happening i am getting errors on the windows that causes my net to stop and restart every 8 hours for 5-10 seconds
[11:09] <daniel311> reaper - you've changed windows' network name, right? and workgroup, right? (so its not WORKGROUP). and you've changed ubuntu's ip permanent ip address to somehting new, and random, on the router and verified that the change has taken effect via ifconfig?
[11:09] <reaper> when i am gaming on the windows pc its quite annoying
[11:09] <bekks> so your windows is misconfigured.
[11:10] <reaper> no my windows is fine
[11:10] <reaper> its been fine for over 3 years
[11:10] <bekks> you just stated it isnt.
[11:10] <reaper> linux is the issue
[11:10] <bekks> it isnt.
[11:10] <daniel311> now now, children. reaper, have you taken those steps I mentioned? :-)
[11:10] <reaper> this all started when the shell was brought online
[11:10] <bekks> the error clearly states that linux is inhibiting your wrong windows configuration.
[11:10] <reaper> and daniel all but changing the server ip
[11:11] <reaper> bekks u clearly are not understanding
[11:11] <daniel311> reaper: do that now. :-)
[11:11] <reaper> ok daniel311
[11:11] <daniel311> dont argue with bekks. just go and change the IP address. I'll wait. :-)
[11:11] <bekks> reaper: if you think so. good luck.
[11:11] <daniel311> or I'm going to have to ask you to sit in the naughty chair. ;-)
[11:12] <reaper> bekks my computer networking degree tells me i know so, i just never had to piss with linux
[11:12] <reaper> not like this
[11:12] <bekks> !language | reaper
[11:12] <cfhowlett> have a CS degree?  then you clearly don't need we!
[11:13] <reaper> bekks !inteligence
[11:13] <histo> !attitude | reaper
[11:13] <daniel311> reaper, GO!!!
[11:14]  * gry scratches head
[11:14] <reaper> daniel311 lol anyway its doin that right now
[11:14] <bekks> Obviously he doesnt want help. *shrug* *plonk*
[11:14] <gry> reaper: hi. what is the current adventure here? what are you trying to do?
[11:14] <gry> reaper: I noticed you're just using it as a shell box for a standalone teamspeak server. That is fine.
[11:15] <daniel311> cs
[11:24] <reaper> daniel311 its verified that the ip has indeed been changed on the Linux
[11:25] <reaper> gry sorry i didnt respond i was updating my router right as your message came in
[11:26] <gry> gosh, you're so awesome - I never updated a router in my life
[11:26] <reaper> gry i am trying to fix an error code that i am seeing on my windows pc thats being generated from the linux
[11:27] <ikonia_> how would linux generate an error code on windows ?
[11:28] <reaper> through netbt
[11:28] <ikonia> netbt ?
[11:28] <reaper> one sec
[11:33] <mexi_d3> I think reaper's problem is that his dhcp server is seeing the same mac address twice, doesn't understand that someone might be dual booting, and falling over. He could probably fix it with a static IP.
[11:33] <histo> That's interesting we can generate errors on windows boxes now.
[11:34] <mexi_d3> Quite a few cheap routers used to do that: In the UK, BT (the largest ISP) gave out routers that did that for a while
[11:34] <reaper> meh im going to have to type it out now
[11:35] <reaper> the name "WORKGROUP    :1d" could not be registered on the interface with IP adress 10.0.0.2 The computer with the IP address 10.0.0.8 did not allow the name to be claimed by this computer.
[11:35] <reaper> that happens when a linux computer becomes a master browser on a home network
[11:35] <reaper> however i have never had to correct this issue
[11:36] <mexi_d3> reaper: Is this windows XP?
[11:36] <OerHeks> workgroup with spaces in the name?
[11:36] <reaper> so now i have the windows pc on a seperate workgroup name and the linux on a different ip and no windows 7
[11:37] <reaper> thats just how the error report generated it
[11:37] <mexi_d3> reaper: Ah I see. This is extra information I did not have before.
[11:38] <oaulakh> is there any alternative for ubuntu termianl for windows
[11:38] <reaper> what do you mean?
[11:38] <reaper> command prompt
[11:38] <mexi_d3> oaulakh: I don't understand the question
[11:39] <oaulakh> i dont need cygwin, but something that would replace cmd and have history like most linux terminals
[11:39] <ikonia> oaulakh: try ##windows
[11:39] <daniel311> oaulakh: powershell?
[11:39] <oaulakh> i dont need powershell
[11:40] <mexi_d3> oaulakh: clink
[11:40] <Mony> hey guys need some help with KDE. by mistake i hit some key combo that reset my desktop (no widgets, default wallpaper, etc) first is there a way back? can i restore the previous state or is completely gone? second where to disable this "feature"
[11:40] <oaulakh> i mean, do we have something that can act as cmd but should have features of linux terminal like ubuntu one
[11:40] <mexi_d3> oaulakh: Clink. http://mridgers.github.io/clink/
[11:40] <Flolila> trying to install an older version of musicbrainz picard but when i try it in the software-center it either tells me that i already have an newer version or when i remove the new version it says that there are dependecie issues
[11:40] <ikonia> oaulakh: try the ##windows channel
[11:41] <sergey_> I just installed Ubuntu server 14.04 32bit. My system freezes while shutting down or reboot. Last message on screen: "Stopping System V runlevel compatibility". How to fix it?
[11:41] <daniel311> reaper didnt you just come back from changing th elinux machine away from 10.0.0.8? to something new and random to see if the windows error followed it?
[11:42] <reaper> daniel311 i was posting the original error
[11:42] <reaper> and now its a waiting game to see if i get d/c or not in 8 hours
[11:43] <mexi_d3> reaper: You don't actally need the network browser service on windows network. Make network mapping for your drives with 'net use'. But your problem is a windows networking misconfiguration and not really relevant here.
[11:44] <reaper> mexi_d3 i love how everyone says its a windows misconfigure yet its worked just fine for 3 years. it just started as soon as i made this particular linux box
[11:45] <ikonia> reaper: does the dual boot machine share the same IP in both windows and linux ?
[11:45] <mexi_d3> reaper: What makes you think it was doing it in the standard way in the first place?
[11:45] <reaper> whos dual booting?
[11:45] <histo> reaper: these are two different boxes?
[11:45] <ikonia> my apologis ,I've missunderstood, I thought you meant you where dual booting
[11:46] <reaper> mexi_d3 becuase its been on multiple networks that i have made with ubuntu with no issues
[11:46] <mexi_d3> ikonia: I thought that too, which would be an easy fix, but he isn't :-)
[11:46] <reaper> histo yes 2 diff computers
[11:46] <ikonia> the descrpition of the problem/setup is not complete enough to actually work through the problem
[11:47] <mexi_d3> reaper: Why not just disable being master browser on samba?
[11:47] <reaper> mexi how do i do that
[11:47] <ikonia> the key there is "master" you can't have 2 master browser
[11:47] <reaper> windows by default is set to act as one and is dumb
[11:48] <mexi_d3> reaper: It's a setting in the samba conf. It's probabyl "domain master browser = no" but you'd need to look it up
[11:48] <TheMaverick`> Having trouble getting my Dell Inspiron Mini 10 (PP19S, believe this is the "1010" model) to wake up from suspend. Lubuntu 14.04.
[11:48] <reaper> ok let me poke around and get on that advice
[11:48] <reaper> i will be back
[11:49] <mexi_d3> Or you could fix your windows machines to work properly, but that would take longer
[11:50] <TheMaverick`> Having trouble getting my Dell Inspiron Mini 10 (PP19S, believe this is the "1010" model) to wake up from suspend. Lubuntu 14.04. This only mentions (in)compatibility up to Lucid --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks#Dell_Mini_10_.28Inspiron_1010.29
[11:57] <ubuntu> hi
[11:58] <ubuntu> what is makefile in ubuntu
[11:58] <ubuntu> ?
[11:58] <Wulf> Guest20789: not sure what you mean.
[11:58] <kDycuLaptop> hey stupid question. I'm upgrading ubuntu through the terminal and it asked me if I wanted to go with a currently installed package vs the maintainer's package. I hit d for show me the differences... but uh, how do I get back to the prompt?
[11:59] <Wulf> kDycuLaptop: how is the difference being shown to you?
[11:59] <Guest20789> in my folder exist makefile ....
[11:59] <Wulf> kDycuLaptop: try pressing "q"
[11:59] <Guest20789> what is it?
[11:59] <Wulf> Guest20789: man make
[11:59] <kDycuLaptop> a file in the terminal
[11:59] <kDycuLaptop> oh wulf q did it
[11:59] <kDycuLaptop> thanks!
[11:59] <vorburger> can someone here help me with what's wrong in http://paste.ubuntu.com/7607329/ ?
[11:59] <Guest20789> :??????????????????????????????
[11:59] <mashu> hey, i was wondering if someone could explain the difference between a process and a thread?
[12:00] <Wulf> mashu: a process consists of one or more multiple threads
[12:00] <bonney12> Hello everyone, I seem to be having a problem when updating. I'm constantly getting that error about Hash Sum Mismatch, and I have tried everything I have found on the internet. Could someone help?
[12:00] <Guest20789> cp lib/* $(INSTALL_PATH)/lib/
[12:00] <Guest20789> 	ldconfig
[12:00] <Wulf> mashu: CPUs / CPU cores execute threads
[12:00] <Guest20789> what is it?
[12:00] <Wulf> Guest20789: it's a makefile ;-)
[12:00] <vorburger> bonney12, you mean with the ISO you downloaded?
[12:01] <Guest20789> it instruction what did it do ?
[12:01] <Guest20789> cp lib/* $(INSTALL_PATH)/lib/
[12:01] <Guest20789> 	ldconfig
[12:01] <bonney12> vorburger: Well yeah, I've installed it to my hard drive and I'm currently on that system, however any time I run "sudo apt-get update", it gives me an error about Hash Sum Mismatch
[12:01] <mashu> Wulf, So ... is a program a process? And that process can have multiple threads? And IPC - Inter Process Communication is when two programs (processes) communicate to each other through sockets?
[12:02] <Wulf> mashu: no, programs and processes are different things too. You could call a "running program" a process though
[12:02] <Guest20789> cp lib/* $(INSTALL_PATH)/lib/
[12:02] <Guest20789> 	ldconfig
[12:02] <Wulf> mashu: IPC doesn't imply sockets, there are plenty of other ways
[12:02] <Wulf> Guest20789: stop it, okay?
[12:02] <Guest20789> mean????????????????????????
[12:02] <Guest20789> why?
[12:03] <vorburger> bonney12: dunno - I was going to point you to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage, but that won't help you in this case
[12:03] <trijntje> Guest20789: where did you get ubuntu, that file isnt supposed to be in your home folder
[12:03] <bonney12> ah :/ damn
[12:04] <Guest20789> cp ??? ( what is it)
[12:04] <Guest20789> can U explain to me?
[12:04] <bonney12> cp is the copy command.
[12:04] <gry> "cp A B" copies files from A to B
[12:04] <bonney12> Wulf: I'm sorry to bother you, but would you have any idea of how to fix my problem?
[12:05] <Guest20789> hmmm
[12:05] <Guest20789> after it
[12:05] <Guest20789> cp lib/* $(INSTALL_PATH)/lib/
[12:05] <Guest20789> 	ldconfig
[12:05] <ikonia> Guest20789: what are you trying to do
[12:05] <Wulf> bonney12: pastebin your error
[12:05] <ikonia> Guest20789: please stop pasting that - what is it you are trying to actually achieve/do
[12:05] <Guest20789> what is imean it?
[12:05] <ikonia> Guest20789: what are you actually trying to do ? install a program ?
[12:05] <Guest20789> i have a makefile
[12:05] <ikonia> Guest20789: what are you trying to do ?
[12:05] <Wulf> bonney12: the whole "apt-get update" output
[12:06] <Guest20789> for run opencv project
[12:06] <Guest20789> in it
[12:06] <Guest20789> in install section
[12:06] <Guest20789> write ... this instruction
[12:06] <trijntje> Guest20789: what country are you form, maybe people can help you better in your own language
[12:06] <mashu> ikonia, hey, i was talking to you about my monitors being in the wrong order before login ... you said something that leads me to a forum which explained how to copy the user settings to global settings ... thanks for your help
[12:06] <Wulf> trijntje: Iran
[12:06] <ikonia> mashu: no problem
[12:06] <trijntje> !ir
[12:07] <Guest20789> nobody know in that channel ...
[12:07] <Guest20789> ok
[12:07] <ikonia> Guest20789: the openCV project is quite a complex process to setup - unless you fully understand it, and know how to use it
[12:07] <bonney12> Wulf: http://pastebin.com/5rrEw81i
[12:07] <ikonia> Guest20789: from what you are typing it appears that you don't yet have the required understanding to setup and use the various components
[12:08] <dblclutch> anyone know how to get around having to have a password set for a user in order to ssh with key?
[12:08] <Wulf> dblclutch: huh?
[12:08] <Guest20789> i have a another problem ...
[12:08] <ikonia> dblclutch: key does not check the password
[12:08] <Wulf> dblclutch: you don't need a password set to ssh with a key.
[12:08] <Guest20789> my webcam not recognize in ubuntu ...
[12:08] <dblclutch> that is right, it doesnt. but if you try ssh'ing to a user with no passwd set, its denied
[12:08] <Guest20789> my ubuntu is in virtual machine vmware ...
[12:09] <Wulf> bonney12: if you find out, tell me please :)
[12:09] <dblclutch> I was scratching my head for half a day on this. came across an article, and tried setting a password for a temp user I was testing with. this fixed the problem
[12:09] <bonney12> Wulf: You mean, if I find out how to fix it?
[12:09] <ikonia> dblclutch: works fine here
[12:09] <Wulf> bonney12: yep
[12:09] <bonney12> Damnit
[12:09] <Guest20789> :?
[12:09] <bonney12> I've tried everything I can find -.-
[12:09] <Guest20789> :(
[12:09] <Wulf> bonney12: did you try removing the cached files?
[12:10] <bonney12> like, rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archives/* ?
[12:10] <Wulf> dblclutch: check your sshd and pam config for strange options
[12:10] <Wulf> bonney12: /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*
[12:10] <jack-> don't kill the partial dir
[12:10] <Wulf> jack-: why not? :)
[12:10] <jack-> apt will grunt
[12:10] <Guest20789> what is gcc?
[12:11] <jack-> a c compiler
[12:11] <Guest20789> my webcam not work here ... what should i do?
[12:11] <Wulf> Guest20789: sell it on ebay
[12:12] <jack-> eat some KCN
[12:12] <Guest20789> i install cheese but no picture show in it ...
[12:12] <ikonia> Guest20789: it doesn't work because you are using vmware, and you've not setup a method to link the physical hardware of your web cam to the virtual machine running linux
[12:12] <Guest20789> i have asus laptop...
[12:12] <bonney12> Wulf: now I get this error: http://pastebin.com/Hbi3v9U3
[12:12] <Guest20789> hmmm....
[12:12] <scratchy> Hello everybody
[12:12] <Wulf> bonney12: what jack- said. :)
[12:13] <bonney12> Wulf: "Eat some KCN"?
[12:13] <Guest20789> how i can setup my vmware ?
[12:13] <scratchy> I got a question, What program can I use to time the start of starting another app
[12:13] <Wulf> bonney12: no :)
[12:13] <jack-> heh
[12:13] <vorburger> scratchy, use "time ..."
 ????
[12:13] <scratchy> I want certain log files to be mailed at certain times
[12:13] <scratchy> oh that simple huh
[12:13] <vorburger> scratchy, google for "cron" (or "cron jobs") and you'll find what you need
[12:13] <scratchy> :)
[12:14] <scratchy> thanks a million
 how i can set up my VM for webcam ...?
[12:14] <Guest20789> Do U know it ?
[12:14] <Wulf> jack-: I just removed all regular files in /var/lib/apt/lists/ and did apt-get update without problems
[12:15] <Guest20789> :(
[12:15] <Guest20789> :'(
[12:15] <hakon_> Hi, ich habe LM17 installiert und bin begeistert. Leider funktioniert der zugriff auf Bilder auf dem NAS Server nicht. Bis Mint 16 war das kein Problem, aber jetzt werden die Bilder nicht mehr angezeigt. Warum?
[12:15] <Wulf> bonney12: http://askubuntu.com/questions/30072/how-do-i-fix-a-problem-with-mergelist-or-status-file-could-not-be-parsed-err
[12:15] <Wulf> !de
[12:15] <Wulf> hakon_: ^
 do U know how i can solve my problem ?
[12:16] <Wulf> Guest20789: no.
[12:16] <bonney12> Wulf: I'm just back to the same place that I was at before, with the whole Hash Sum Mismatch thing.
[12:16] <bonney12> Would it be worth giving a reinstall a go?
 ?
[12:16] <bonney12> I've literally just installed it so I could just reinstall with ease
[12:17] <ikonia> Guest20789: please stop saying my name
[12:17] <Guest20789> Do U know ?
[12:17] <Guest20789> ok
[12:17] <jack-> hakon_, bin auch lm17-nutzer ;)
[12:17] <Guest20789> U can not solve my problem .....
[12:17] <Guest20789> :|
[12:17] <jack-> und hochzufrieden
[12:17] <ikonia> Guest20789: I do not reward people with help who just keep asking over and over and over
[12:18] <Guest20789> ok
[12:18] <Wulf> bonney12: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/972077 ?
[12:18] <Guest20789> balad nisin
[12:18] <Guest20789> ok
[12:18] <hakon_> Sorry, thought it was multi lingual. Anyway, installed LM17 and noticed that I cannot open jpeg  files stored on my NAS server. All previous versions accessed and displayed it correctly. Any idea why?
[12:18] <Wulf> bonney12: are you behind a (transparent) proxy server?
[12:18] <bonney12> Wulf: will take a look at it now
[12:18] <bonney12> No I'm not
[12:19] <ice9> the CPU fan is spinning constantly at low RPM however there isn't a process  that is consuming the CPU in top!
[12:19] <Guest20789> what is mean it ($(INSTALL_PATH)) ?
[12:19] <ikonia> hakon_: what version of ubuntu is
[12:19] <ikonia> Guest20789: you've been told about this
[12:19] <ikonia> Guest20789: stop repeating the same question over and over
[12:19] <Guest20789> :|
[12:20] <ikonia> Guest20789: the truth is - you are not at a level where you can manage the open CV modules, so stop trying to use them until you understand better
[12:20] <hakon_> jack: ich bin auch sehr zufrieden, bis auf das Problem mit dem NAS server.
[12:20] <ikonia> hakon_: sorry, "what version of ubuntu is this"
[12:20] <gry> Guest20789: the $ means that it's a variable defined earlier in the file
[12:20] <jack-> hakon_, macht sinn, klar
[12:21] <hakon_> ikonia: It's Linux Mint 17
[12:21] <jack-> ikonia, lm17 is based on ubuntu-trusty
[12:21] <Guest20789> tnx <gry>
[12:21] <ikonia> hakon_: ok, so not for this channel then, try the mint support resources
[12:21] <brainwash> this isn't the linux mint support channel
[12:21] <brainwash> !mint
[12:21] <gry> it's ok :)
[12:22] <Wulf> bonney12: can you show me your sources.list?
[12:22] <hakon_> Thanks over and out
[12:22] <Guest20789> what is mean it ?
[12:22] <Guest20789> rm
[12:22] <Wulf> bonney12: with all empty / comment lines removed
[12:22] <bonney12> Wulf: sure, one moment
[12:24] <Guest20789> what is a .o file?
[12:24] <jack-> object file
[12:24] <Guest20789> how can open a .o file?
[12:24] <dblclutch> Wulf: do you know where I can find a default sshd_config file for Ubuntu 14.04
[12:24] <jack-> usually written by a compiler or so
[12:25] <Wulf> dblclutch: in your openssh package?
[12:25] <karthik> hii
[12:25] <karthik> can someone tell me how best to learn linux
[12:25] <karthik> i am a newbie :-(
[12:25] <Wulf> karthik: ask Guest20789 and do the opposite.
[12:25] <dblclutch> checked /etc/ssh/ but there was only the one I edited :(
[12:26] <karthik> Wulf: :-)
[12:26] <Wulf> karthik: learning by doing and rtfm.
[12:26] <Guest20789> U are very loooooooooooooos
[12:26] <Guest20789> WuLt
[12:26] <karthik> rtfm?
[12:26] <Wulf> karthik: and google for words you don't know
[12:26] <karthik> ok..
[12:26] <Pessimist> Guest20789, .o files are in binary. The proper way to edit them is to edit the source code and recompile
[12:27] <tracyone> I can't find time.h in /usr/include/sys,but the the c source file include <sys/time.h>
[12:27] <Pessimist> tracyone, find / -iname 'time.h'
 do U know open cv ?
[12:27] <Guest20789> tnx
[12:28] <karthik> Abhishek_ :hi
[12:28] <Wulf> tracyone: /usr/include is not the only location your compiler may look for includes.
 why my webcam not work ... kho help me please ....
[12:28] <Guest20789> :)
[12:29] <bonney12> Wulf: apologies for the delay, pastebin.com/yAc0Zr4i
[12:29] <bonney12> http://pastebin.com/yAc0Zr4i *
[12:30] <tracyone> locate time.h | grep '/sys/'
[12:30] <tracyone> /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/sys/time.h
[12:30] <tracyone> /usr/lib/syslinux/com32/include/sys/time.h
[12:31] <Guest20789> ?
[12:31] <tracyone> which one?
[12:33] <Guest20789> lpconfig?
[12:33] <Guest20789> mean ??????????????????
[12:33] <Guest20789> ????
[12:33] <ikonia> Guest20789: you cannot use open cv - you are not at a level where you understand enough of the basics
[12:33] <Guest20789> ldconfig
[12:34] <ikonia> Guest20789: please stop asking what every line in the install script does
[12:34] <Wulf> bonney12: what is the size / sh1sum of /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty_universe_source_Sources or maybe you can upload the file somewhere?
[12:34] <Guest20789> i did a project in steganography with opencv
[12:34] <Guest20789> :P
[12:34] <Guest20789> but now i want to use my webcam ....
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[12:35] <Guest20789> :)))
[12:35] <bonney12> Wulf: that file doesn't exist for me,
[12:35] <Wulf> bonney12: but it says "Hash Sum mismatch"?
[12:35] <bonney12> this one: /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty_universe_source_Sources.decomp.FAILED
[12:35] <bonney12> does ^
[12:36] <Wulf> bonney12: any other files in partial/?
[12:36] <bonney12> Yeah, there's 7 of them, do you want me to tell you which?
[12:37] <Wulf> bonney12: yeah, I'm trying to understand what's happening there
[12:37] <bonney12> Wulf: In a pastebin or just here?
[12:37] <Wulf> bonney12: pastebin
[12:37] <Wulf> bonney12: I had the same problem a few days ago but didn't bother to debug it
[12:38] <bonney12> Ah right
[12:38] <bonney12> Wulf: http://pastebin.com/UihdTaA7
[12:38] <Wulf> bonney12: ls -l and sha1sum please? :)
[12:39] <bonney12> Wulf: The sha1sum of every one of them?
[12:39] <Wulf> bonney12: yeah
[12:42] <bonney12> Wulf: http://pastebin.com/t1QDYc2i
[12:47] <john_rambo> By mistake I selected "no configuration" on the "Postfix Configuration" page during the installation of psad ....How to I change it to "Internet Site" now ?
[12:47] <Wulf> bonney12: interesting, the file size of archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty_universe_source_Sources.decomp.FAILED matches, but the sha1sum does not
[12:47] <Wulf> bonney12: can you send me the file?
[12:47] <bonney12> Give me a moment, I need to try something
[12:47] <Wulf> john_rambo: try dpkg-reconfigure postfix
[12:49] <MagicSpud> hello is it possible to burn two live OS in the same dvd?
[12:49] <Wulf> MagicSpud: yes, with some effort. But who uses DVDs nowaydays? :)
[12:51] <mexi_d3> MagicSpud: Bearing in mind the cost of DVDR media I kind of this is a lot of effort to save $0.002
[12:52] <IdleOne> MagicSpud: search for Multiboot ISO
[12:52] <john_rambo> Wulf: Done ... Thanks a lot
[12:53] <bonney12> Wulf: you're gonna think I'm really stupid xD I forgot the original reason I was using apt in the first place - to download the packages for wireless USB dongles - so I had connected my computer up to
[12:53] <bonney12> ANOTHER laptop, rather than directly to my router
[12:54] <bonney12> so technically I was behind a proxy without realising it -.-
[12:54] <Wulf> bonney12: ... so ?
[12:54] <Wulf> bonney12: by proxy I mean http proxy
[12:54] <bonney12> Right but now the problems fixed themselves when I connected it directly to my router
[12:54] <Wulf> hmm
[12:54] <bonney12> No more Hash Sum Mismatch, I can install packages now
[12:56] <bonney12> Wulf: Thank you a lot for your help though, and sorry for wasting your time
[12:56] <Wulf> bonney12: np
[12:57] <bonney12> Thanks again, see you!
[12:57] <Wulf> bonney12: do you still have that broken file? :)
[12:57] <bonney12> No, I removed them
[12:57] <bonney12> Sorry :/
[12:58] <bonney12> Anyway, thanks again and goodbye ^^
[13:03] <janslow> john_rambo sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix
[13:03] <janslow> sorry, just saw someone answered
[13:07] <clevas> When i install ubuntu along side win 8.1 do i put the boot loader in the same partition as the win8.1 bootloader?
[13:08] <clevas> like is windows is in sda1 do i put the ubuntu loader in sda1 also
[13:08] <clevas> is=if
[13:11] <mexi_d3> clevas: The installer will do this automatically. Do you have a reason to configure this manually?
[13:13] <kimmy> Hi, I just upgraded my lubuntu install in an attempt to fix the OS not recognizing my soundcard... still nothing? aplay -l just says List of Playback Hardware Devices and doesn't list any
[13:13] <kimmy> ideas?
[13:13] <clevas> well i had stuff on stb
[13:13] <clevas> i will try again. I went into advanced options
[13:14] <mexi_d3> kimmy: does `lspci` show it?
[13:15] <kimmy> yep "00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio Controller (rev 06)
[13:15] <kimmy> "
[13:16] <nashant> anyone know where I can get libiconv.so.2 without building it from source?
[13:17] <kimmy> mexi_d3 though I get the idea that the realtek alc887 chipset is supposed to show up in this list too?
[13:17] <OerHeks> !find libiconv
[13:18] <nashant> OerHeks: I tried that
[13:18] <OerHeks> nashant, not sure that is the package
[13:21] <lamrz> hello everyone, my disk space is free, but the properties show 99GB used, how can this be solved?
[13:21] <evon> Before I reinstalled ubuntu i copied my entire home directory elsewhere.  Now that I've copied it back, i've realized that all the permissions for my files are wrong.  How do I change the permissions so they work on my new installation?
[13:21] <evon> Lamrz check your trash
[13:21] <lamrz> evon, the trash is much smaller..
[13:22] <OerHeks> lamrz, what does df -h say ?
[13:24] <lamrz> OerHeks, it says also that 58% and 68% are used (I have the problem with two partitions)
[13:25] <lamrz> but the folder is empty, trash is only 3GB..
[13:25] <lamrz> I mean both partitions are empty
[13:26] <OerHeks> lamrz, so what is the issue, you formatted/partitioned a disk, and now missing 99 gb?
[13:27] <varunendra> lamrz, just give us pastebin link of 'df -h'
[13:28] <lamrz> OerHeks, no. each one is the same partition. when there is nothing saved on it, it says over 50% used for each.
[13:28] <lamrz> ok
[13:29] <lamrz> OerHeks, this is the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7607809/
[13:30] <lamrz> I mean sdd1 and sdd3
[13:31] <lamrz> varunendra, this is the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7607809/
[13:32] <varunendra> lamrz, does 'du -h | sort -h' show where the space is used?
[13:33] <lamrz> varunendra, yes, the lines are racing through the command line when I did du -h
[13:33] <varunendra> :)
[13:33] <varunendra> lamrz, let them stop, the largest files/directory would be listed at the bottom.
[13:34] <lamrz> varunendra, if you mean at the end of the output, it is not so, they are arbitrarily listed, not in ascending or descending order of size
[13:35] <lamrz> varunendra, but I'm trying using | less
[13:35] <varunendra> lamrz, it means you didn't pipe the output to 'sort'. The full command was - "du -h | sort -h"
[13:35] <lamrz> ah ok
[13:35] <lamrz> sorry
[13:36] <lamrz> varunendra, the largest file is 458MB, and there are only a handful of MB-size files..
[13:37] <lamrz> varunendra, I dont know how it might have affected, but this happened after I deleted dd image files from these partitions
[13:38] <varunendra> lamrz, did you move them to the trash or skip it (really deleted)?
[13:38] <lamrz> varunendra, first trash, then delete from trash
[13:39] <DrFoo_> I am getting an error when I go to update packages: Requires Installation of Untrusted Packages
[13:39] <DrFoo_> How do I fix
[13:39] <nuke_> hi all. I have problems with chrome in 14.04 . Especially when i use youtube big videos like 60 minutes it starts to get slower and slower and i notcie CPU to be like 90%
[13:39] <varunendra> lamrz, if the data is not sensitive (be careful there), can we see the output of "sudo du -h | sort -h" ?
[13:40] <varunendra> lamrz, be back in a few minutes..
[13:41] <lamrz> varunendra, I'm a bit wary of that, it is in the end the list of my desktop content, I guess?
[13:47] <evon> Before I reinstalled ubuntu i copied my entire home directory elsewhere.  Now that I've copied it back, i've realized that all the permissions for my files are wrong.  How do I change the permissions so they work on my new installation?
[13:49] <clone1110> andrew ?
[13:52] <varunendra> lamrz, try this recipe to find the total usage in MiB - find /media/muv -type f -printf "%s\n" | awk '{s+=$1} END {print s/1024/1024}'
[13:53] <Pessimist> evon, write a simple script that changes them :)
[13:53] <Pessimist> evon, there are probably tons of examples on the Internet
[13:53] <lamrz> varunendra, an editor opened when I typed it in
[13:54] <evon> pessimist, good idea but  no idea how to do that or get that
[13:54] <lamrz> editor line, I mean
[13:54] <pekko> evon: man chmod, or just go to /home and do chmod 700 -R username:username *, but it has one problem, it makes all files +x :P so not a great solution
[13:54] <varunendra> lamrz, maybe you didn't type the closing single quote (')
[13:54] <subz3r0> for  just seeing how much space is used. you can install "ncdu" and use it in the given path
[13:54] <lamrz> varunendra, oh yes, I didnt..:)
[13:55] <varunendra> :)
[13:55] <varunendra> lamrz, is it anywhere close to 87040 ?
[13:55] <lamrz> yes. 86273
[13:55] <lamrz> varunendra, yes. 86273
[13:55] <evon> pekko why is +x a problem?
[13:56] <evon> pekko I don't even kno what that is lol
[13:56] <varunendra> lamrz, then properties isn't telling lies. The bunch of files total upto 85 GB :p
[13:56] <lamrz> varunendra, but where could the files be?
[13:57] <lamrz> varunendra, I found it!
[13:57] <subz3r0> lamrz: sudo apt-get install ncdu
[13:57] <lamrz> varunendra, subz3r0, I found it!
[13:57] <varunendra> lamrz, congrats!! :D
[13:58] <pekko> evon: *all* files are then executable, its dirty imo, i really would use a proper script, but then again some your files need to be +x to be executable (binaries for example)
[13:58] <lamrz> varunendra, yeah, eureka cry? there are two trash folders, one .Trash-0, one .Trash-1000...I overlooked checking .Trash-0! fool of me!
[13:58] <varunendra> lamrz, by the way, you can always rely on 'du -h <mount-point of desired partition> | sort -h'
[13:58] <varunendra> lamrz, confusion - happens all the time ;)
[13:58] <evon> pekko can you suggest any good scripts?
[14:00] <lamrz> varunendra, thank you for your help! :)
[14:01] <OerHeks> :-)
[14:01] <varunendra> Glad I could :)
[14:01]  * varunendra slips half a cookie to OerHeks 
[14:02] <Pessimist> evon, for file in $(ls /dir); do <...>; done
[14:02] <OerHeks> as a teamplayer, i say cheers!
[14:02] <clevas> fix for grub rescue with win8.1 dual boot?
[14:02] <Wiz_KeeD> does anyone know how to use a pgp?
[14:03] <lamrz> varunendra, prompt request of help! :)
[14:03] <evon> Pessimist thanks but can you elaborate some more? I'm a newb at this
[14:03] <varunendra> lamrz, ??
[14:04] <varunendra> clevas, have you seen this thread yet - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295 ??
[14:05] <lamrz> I deleted the files from .Trash-0 folder, and they were moved to -Trash-1000 folder. there, each time I delete them, they instantly resurrect like this: deletedfile.1, deletedfile1.1, deletedfile1.1.1. and so on...
[14:05] <varunendra> lamrz, just select them, and press 'Shift+Del' to skip trash.
[14:05] <varunendra> lamrz, or simply use 'rm' command
[14:08] <gregor3005> hi, i'm interesting to install ubuntu on a tablet, is this possible? which tablet is good for it? (i have no tablet currently) and is there a special channel for this?
[14:10] <varunendra> !touch | gregor3005
[14:10] <gregor3005> varunendra: thank you
[14:10] <varunendra> np :)
[14:11] <ubuntubox> hello, I have ran this command, sudo apt-get purge qemu*, to remove qemu and its dependencies, will it remove any preinstalled apps or something as well? (just curious)
[14:11] <dw1> ubuntubox: it should tell you and ask for confirmation
[14:12] <dw1> ubuntubox: i hope :p
[14:12] <lamrz> varunendra, thank you again! it is now mostly freed, it still shows an 8GB used space, but the free space is enough for me to work with, for now..maybe I find out soon why it shows that..
[14:12] <ubuntubox> dw1, well qemu literally installs lots of packages kinda hard to track :D
[14:13] <varunendra> lamrz, you can use 'sudo' with 'du' to see files/dirs that may be readable only by root.
[14:13] <ubuntubox> oh yes a better question may be, is anything related to "qemu" is preinstalled with ubuntu?
[14:13] <dw1> ubuntubox: its not installed by default so shouldnt touch anything too important i dont think
[14:13] <varunendra> lamrz, or you can run the gui program "Disk Usage Analyzer" (command - sudo baobab) to do that via GUI
[14:13] <dw1> ubuntubox: i dont have qemu
[14:15] <OerHeks> lamrz, an hdd shows 'free space', i guess your hdd has got a buffer of 8 gb
[14:15] <ubuntubox> I actually tried that command on a fresh ubuntu system as well and it was showing 0 for everything, so nothing to remove I guess.
[14:15] <ubuntubox> dw1, and thanks anyway :)
[14:15] <OerHeks> lamrz, as any disk/memory needs an adress, so does the cache of your hdd
[14:16] <varunendra> lamrz, are you aware that 5% is reserved for root on ext partitions?
[14:16] <daniel31> from an ubuntu prompt is there a way to download and install a new distro? (scrapping whatever was there before)
[14:16] <dw1> ubuntubox: i think apt will protect anything still in use.. thats its purpose
[14:16] <floridsdorf> hi
[14:16] <lamrz> OerHeks, holy gosh, that is a lot, isnt it?
[14:17] <OerHeks> 8gb is a lot yes, i wonder too
[14:18] <ubuntubox> dw1, Ok got it now kinda :) looks like I have to read apt documentation
[14:18] <varunendra> daniel31, you can download anything with 'wget', but installing from a running system can be a tricky. The only way I know is this - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[14:18] <Pupeno> can locate find files by owner and group?
[14:18] <lamrz> OerHeks, I will check this in more detail in a bit..may I ask one more thing?
[14:19] <varunendra> the channel is meant for questions I guess, lamrz  :p
[14:19] <lamrz> do I need to add "conv=noerror" when I create a dd image of a partition?
[14:21] <gry> if you want it to silently continue when an error happens
[14:21] <Pessimist> lamrz, https://superuser.com/questions/622541/what-does-dd-conv-sync-noerror-do
[14:21] <lamrz> varunendra, true :)
[14:21] <Squall5668> Pupeno: use -user or -group in find
[14:21] <ubuntubox> Pupeno, yes with -group flag
[14:21] <OerHeks> lamrz, yes, that will solve the error of last sector usage
[14:22] <lamrz> OerHeks, oh, ok..would it be placed after 'bs=1M' in the command?
[14:25] <lamrz> OerHeks, ok, I found examples, it is written after it (though maybe it doesnt matter?) :)
[14:30] <Pupeno> Squall5668: I meant with the locate command, not with find.
[14:32] <phillyj> anyone familiar with updating the MLT framework to the latest on? apt-get doesn't cut it
[14:33] <holstein> phillyj: it should cut it if you add sources. otherwise, apt-get just updates to the most current version in your sources, and by default, ubuntu is not a rolling release
[14:33] <ikonia> "doesn't cut it" ?
[14:33] <phillyj> it doesn't update it to latest one
[14:33] <ikonia> phillyj: the lastest one, or the latest one in the repo
[14:33] <ikonia> could you actually try to define a problem / failure ?
[14:33] <holstein> phillyj: its not intended to
[14:33] <Squall5668> Pupeno: Sorry. I'm not aware of a way to do this with locate
 no, but find can
[14:36] <phillyj> ikonia: i want to try the manual install; I have 0.7.6 but the latest MLT is 0.8.6. I am hoping this will fix my "no audio" problems with kdenlive and openshot
[14:36] <ikonia> "hope" ? anye reason to believe it will ?
[14:36] <MagePsycho> how to send email via sendmail command line? i have an issue that the mail is not going via sendmail, how to test
[14:37] <ikonia> manually installing is a huge risk of core components,
[14:37] <ikonia> MagePsycho: "mail"
[14:37] <ikonia> or mailx
[14:37] <ikonia> ubuntu doesn't run sendmail
[14:37] <holstein> phillyj: i would address any issues with openshot there.. with openshot.. where did you get the version of openshot you are using? is it the default, officially supported ubuntu version?
[14:38] <phillyj> holstein: i just installed openshot today using apt-get, to make sure my "no audio" issue was not a kdenlive problem
[14:39] <robynata> :-!
[14:39] <holstein> phillyj: did you add a PPA, friend? apt-get is just the package manager.. where did the package come from?
[14:40] <phillyj> holstein: did not add a ppa
[14:40] <phillyj> installed openshot 1.4.0-1ubunutu1, according to synaptic
[14:40] <holstein> phillyj: let a volunteer here know if you need help with the audio issue.. i suggest not changing parts of the system to try and "fix" something like that..
[14:40] <ikonia> !info openshot
[14:41] <ikonia> phillyj: looks like a different version than is in the ubuntu repos
[14:41] <ikonia> phillyj: 1.4.3-1-1 is in the trust repo (are you using trusty)
[14:41] <phillyj> ooo, i think i am in trusty
[14:41] <phillyj> no
[14:41] <phillyj> sry
[14:41] <phillyj> i am in precise
[14:41] <ikonia> !info openshot precise
[14:42] <holstein> phillyj: you may simply want to try and upgrade to 14.04..
[14:42] <ikonia> ok, that looks better
[14:43] <phillyj> holstein: i am reluctant to upgrade at the moment, since I am not sure if I would break my settings, that took so long for me to configure properly
[14:43] <phirex> I am getting this error: attempt to read or write outside of disk 'hd0' ... Entering rescue mode... I strongly believe that if i was able to choose the older kernel it wouldn't happen, but holding down shift doesn't bring up grub menu
[14:43] <holstein> phillyj: try it live, and see
[14:43] <shunya_chakra> hi is there any good link or tutorial for editing notification icons of ubuntu pannel?
[14:43] <phirex> is there anything i can try and do without a live CD?
[14:43] <holstein> phillyj: you should not be afraid that your system will break, but, assured that it *will* break, and have a proper backup
[14:44] <holstein> phillyj: all hard drives fail..
[14:44] <andlabs> Hi. I want to test this patch, which claims to fix a bug I found in package oxygen-gtk3 - https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333983#c4. I did apt-get source to download the source and applied the patch - is there any special procedure for me to build the package as it stands and install it, even temporarily, for this bugfix test? Thanks.
[14:44] <phillyj> holstein: I think you were refering to phirex?
[14:44] <phillyj> about the breaking hdd?
[14:44] <holstein> phillyj: no.. i was talking about your reluctance to upgrade to 14.04..
[14:44] <phillyj> o
[14:45] <ikonia> phillyj: if you are concerned about your setup under NO circustances should you try to install anything outside the package manager
[14:45] <phillyj> ok
[14:45]  * holstein +1 with ikonia 's statement about out of repo packages as well ^
[14:46] <MagePsycho> ikonia: why the mail doesn’t work if we use the email with the same domain where the site is hosted?
[14:47] <phillyj> so, if I use a trusty live cd, will I be able to run kdenlive and test it out? I am not sure if live CD lets you do more than run programs already on the iso?
[14:47] <holstein> phillyj: try it and see.. i find, if i have the available ram, and on a system where i am expecting to do video editing, i would have the ram..
[14:48] <varunendra> phillyj, you can try as many programs as the RAM allows, only they would be temporary (lost at reboot - obviously) if it is not a 'Persistent' live.
[14:48] <phillyj> ok, i understand
[14:48] <phillyj> till next time, thx guys
[14:49] <holstein> phillyj: on my production machine, i have 2 partitions on the hard drive where i install operating systems.. i basically run both LTS versions.. for example, i wiped my 10.04 partitions with 14.04 when it released.. i do no use 12.04 now, but its there
[14:49] <tbtptb> Is it possible to make a swap and extend the RAM?
[14:49] <morph> nice
[14:49] <tbtptb> or it just be another mount
[14:49] <morph> mempo released a grsecurity kernel
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> !swap | tbtptb
[14:50] <varunendra> tbtptb, perfectly possible, only the swap would be much slower compared to RAM
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> varunendra: how about swap on ssd+ ubuntu? would that make it any faster?
[14:51] <holstein> not faster than ram.. potentially comparable..
[14:51] <varunendra> lotuspsychje, I don't have the experience, but based on theoretical knowledge, it can't be nearly as fast as RAM :)
[14:51] <julien1> hello everybody
[14:52] <wols> varunendra: it's a much much slower than ram, but that doesn't matter. swap is still good for you
[14:52] <wols> and it really makes your system faster
[14:52] <wols> -a
[14:53] <varunendra> wols, depends on how often a user goes into "Brownian Motion" through heavy applications :p
[14:53] <shunya_chakra> exit
[14:53] <shunya_chakra> oops sorry
[14:53] <wols> varunendra: no
[14:53] <tbtptb> On the page, it mentions swap as a partition.  I wonder if it can be a file instead, where it is easier to define the size
[14:53] <whoever> hi all, I need some help, I am running smartmontools, and the log file sayst that it termintad the job because of temp, but the temp change was not met , can someone assist
[14:53] <julien1> I have a questoin about SSD and trimming. Some tutorial recommand to run "fstrim" command everyday via anacron. Trusty runs "fstrim" once a week via cron.weekly. Do you known is very usefull ans optimised to run "fstrim" once a day ?
[14:53] <whoever> pastebin syslog http://pastebin.com/qqhHbthj
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> !ssd | julien1
[14:54] <whoever> julien1: i wouldn't
[14:54] <holstein> tbtptb: if you are interested in improving the speed and performance of your system, set up a properly configured swap partition
[14:55] <tbtptb> I don't mind about losing performance.  I am more interested in the system losing space.
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> julien1: check here for other nice ssd tweaks: https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd
[14:55] <holstein> tbtptb: you will lose the space regardless.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1042946
[14:56] <holstein> tbtptb: if you are on a system where 2gb's of swap space is a deal breaker, i say, you have larger issues than a lack of swap space
[14:56] <varunendra> holstein, lol!
[14:56] <whoever> is it better to set a bi-weekly then a weekly trim
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> julien1: i have many enabled, trim on rc.local, swappiness tweak, quiet splash off, fstab tweak
[14:58] <sydney> holstein: True!!
[14:58] <whoever> lotuspsychje: is there a best practices on using fstrim? ie: weekly, bi-weekly, montly ?
[14:58] <julien1> rc.local is a good solution if we often reboot the PC
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> whoever: not sure whats reccomended, but i use every boot trim
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> whoever: https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd
[14:59] <tbtptb> Overall, I'm curious about using a file on the hard drive as swap space, maybe as compressed.  I'm also curious about other media as well.  For example, would it rapidly decrease the life of a thumb drive?
[14:59] <morph> hey how can i check what is using port 80?
[15:00] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[15:00] <julien1> netstat -anpe | grep :80
[15:00] <ni190943> :)
[15:00] <holstein> tbtptb: do what you like, friend.. the links above show how to do what you are asking, as well as a properly configured swap partition
[15:00] <morph> I need the PID for it julien1
[15:01] <holstein> tbtptb: you will not want to use a compressed swap file to try and speed up a system, or supplement the ram
[15:01] <whoever> London3D: i hope you not refering to adding discard to fstab, everyone says that is slow, and adding unnecisarry r/w to the drive
[15:01] <ikonia> swap of any sort will not speed up a system
[15:01] <ikonia> if you are swapping, you are out of ram, which means if you need more swap, you are having more problems (more slow down)
[15:01] <holstein> swap is not the same as memory.. its a compromise
[15:02] <tbtptb> Thanks holstein.
[15:02] <tbtptb> ikonia: that's where planning comes in.  like, if you know you will use less than, say, 10 GB
[15:03] <holstein> tbtptb: the defaults meet the needs of most users. have you tried? if not, just use the default partitioning and see if it meets your needs
[15:03] <wols> ikonia: it will. there are many pages which are allocated, loaded but then never ever touched again. you can swap out those and use the memory for better purposes
[15:03] <tbtptb> In some cases, I won't be able to use partitioning
[15:04] <holstein> tbtptb: no software tweaks like that will make hardware any faster or better.. you just might be able to manage the system in a way that will make bettter or more appropriate use of the system resources
[15:04] <holstein> tbtptb: im talking about specificially in *this* case..
[15:04] <tbtptb> gotcha
[15:04] <holstein> tbtptb: in the other "some" cases, you will have learned by using and testing the sane defaults that 99% of users find acceptable
[15:04] <ikonia> wols: swapping out unused ram is of cours ea good thing, however adding swap to make your machine faster to make up for a "lack of ram" as this person is doing will not help
[15:06] <sydney> Unless you dont have enough swapp space in the first place ikonia. ;)
[15:06] <amazonas> ..
[15:06] <ikonia> sydney: that seems unlikley based on his description of th eproblem
[15:07] <Asterisks> holy crap, last time i was in this channel there were only like 600 users at a time.
[15:08] <sydney> Asterisks: 1713 at the moment. :D
[15:08] <sydney> 1714
[15:08] <Asterisks> I know right, it's insane
[15:08] <Asterisks> I've been planning an ubuntu LTSP cluster for a local grade school, going to present it on tuesday
[15:08] <edge226> I am having an issue mounting a .img file in ubuntu. It seems to get pissed @ /dev/loop1
[15:09] <edge226> Asterisks: LTSP?
[15:09] <Asterisks> Linux Terminal Server Project
[15:10] <mcnesium> can i make an ext4 partition on the new drive that will be mounted to a raid1, where the corresponding partition on the old drive is ext3?
[15:10] <edge226> Asterisks: is there a difference between a LTSP and just running servers?
[15:10] <Asterisks> basically you can boot a computer off the network with a minimal OS (think a really thinned down ubuntu liveCD) and the programs run on the LTSP application servers
[15:10] <Asterisks> all the hardware the school currently has is old (we're talking 8+ years old still running windows XP)
[15:10] <Asterisks> and can't run a full ubuntu by itself, and either way installing ubuntu 100 times isn't exactly expedient
[15:11] <holstein> Asterisks: you can image as you please
[15:11] <OerHeks> Asterisks, sounds like you need Edubuntu
[15:11] <Asterisks> probably will install the edubuntu packages
[15:11] <cym2> hi :-)
[15:11] <Asterisks> all edubuntu is is some theming and a couple software packages, i cal install it on normal ubuntu
[15:12] <Asterisks> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-edu-primary
[15:12] <holstein> i found it was too much of a change from the XP work flow.. the school i was working with didnt even understand a networks share, and how to leave the power on to a server.. so i did seperate machines
[15:13] <tbtptb> I thought XP days had networking too.  I remember FTPing stuff and sharing an internet connection
[15:14] <Asterisks> True, it will be a change, but at the same time so would windows 7/8
[15:14] <edge226> Anyone have any idea why I am getting this? http://celps.org/p3un6
[15:14] <Asterisks> which would be the other director
[15:14] <Asterisks> direction*
[15:14] <Asterisks> and it would cost 3x as more, if not more than that
[15:14] <daftykins> Asterisks: just reading back on some messages there, that school is in a really bad way =|
[15:14] <Asterisks> It's an illinois school, the budget in IL atm is in the shitter.
[15:14] <john_rambo> How to solve this mail issue ? http://pastebin.com/w5NDYQ5c
[15:15] <Asterisks> It's where I went to grade school, the current computer lab they have was istalled when I was in kindergarten (I'm 17 now) and hasn't been upgraded once
[15:15] <daftykins> john_rambo: use the correct binary...
[15:15] <Asterisks> daftykins: pretty much, I'm hoping to bring them at least to a workable level
[15:15] <ikonia> john_rambo: stop following blindly commands from the internet
[15:16] <holstein> xp is workable.. i find you really need to address major changes in work flow and habits
[15:16] <Asterisks> holstein: you forget that windows XP is not longer supported by microsoft, it's a security black hole now
[15:16] <Asterisks> no longer*
[15:17] <Asterisks> sorry about the typing mistakes, I just woke up :L
[15:17] <holstein> Asterisks: and, please note, im not suggesting its use.. im just stating it *is* workable
[15:17] <john_rambo> daftykins: ikonia I am trying to test psad's mail delivery as suggested here http://www.cipherdyne.com/psad/docs/faq.html#sendmail
[15:17] <holstein> Asterisks: they (microsoft) actually *are* providing updates to some who want to pay..
[15:17] <tbtptb> edge226: that looks similar to what I've seen when mounting a still-used windows 8 partition.  Can't mount rw.
[15:17] <ikonia> john_rambo: that guide is nothing to do with yoursetup
[15:18] <edge226> tbtptb: its a .img file. Usually you get the error and it mounts RO. All good thats all I need. But it just fails.
[15:18] <holstein> Asterisks: but, i am only wishing you well.. nothing about ubuntu or linux is preventing you and your school from using and benefiting from its use
[15:18] <sydney> XP is unsupported,but 27% of people(something around there) are still using it. :D My mom is using it yet,and it is still going strong.
[15:18] <tbtptb> Is the image on such a partition?
[15:18] <jack-> weird...should be downloading from archive.ubuntu.org or so, but netsat says likho.canonical.com
[15:19] <jack-> and that host/box is crap slow :/
[15:19] <holstein> Asterisks: i found, when i have migrating individuals and schools and companies *before* xp was EOL that trying to give the same experience as the manufacturer did with xp helped
[15:19] <daftykins> jack-: so pick another mirror
[15:19] <varunendra> john_rambo, the 'mail' program is in /usr/bin directory by the way..
[15:19] <Asterisks> holstein: elaborate on the "same experience" comment?
[15:19] <zoltankodaly> hi everyone
[15:19] <ikonia> john_rambo: VERY important, do NOT blindly copy commands from the internet
[15:19] <holstein> Asterisks: sure.. moving schools from xp to ubuntu
[15:19] <edge226> tbtptb: I downloaded the image, decompressed it and tried to mount it. It is not already mounted. I am unsure why it is freaking about /dev/loop1
[15:20] <ikonia> edge226: it needs a loop back device to mount an image
[15:20] <sydney> zoltankodaly: Hi!!
[15:20] <Z_ikaChan> fm
[15:20] <edge226> ikonia: meaning?
[15:20] <ikonia> edge226: that's why it's trying to use loop1
[15:20] <jack-> daftykins, you mean editing sources.list?
[15:20] <zoltankodaly> i can't install ubuntu on my pc, i put the image on an usb key with unetbotin, but when i start the install the screen goes black
[15:20] <edge226> ikonia: I know why, I dont know why its failing.
[15:20] <zoltankodaly> i've got 2 ati radeon r9 280x
[15:21] <holstein> !nomodeset | zoltankodaly
[15:21] <daftykins> jack-: only if your system is pure CLI, there is a mirror testing and picking function in the software sources program i think
[15:21] <ikonia> 16:19 < edge226> I am unsure why it is freaking about /dev/loop1
[15:21] <ikonia> edge226: that susggests you don't know why
[15:21] <holstein> zoltankodaly: i would consider testing the usb stick on other hardware as well... so you know its working or not
[15:21] <zoltankodaly> already used nomodeset
[15:21] <zoltankodaly> it's not effective
[15:21] <holstein> zoltankodaly: ok.. then, what is?
[15:21] <jack-> ok, i'll check
[15:21] <holstein> !md5 | zoltankodaly
[15:21] <Asterisks> holstein: what kind of experience is generally given by the manufacturer that you suggest I should try to give.
[15:21] <holstein> zoltankodaly: try and test the stick on a other machine, otherwise, you are assuming its working
[15:21] <zoltankodaly> already checked the hash
[15:21] <edge226> ikonia: I know why it needs it, I dont know why its not just mounting. I've never had this issue before. Although usually it is an iso instead of a img.
[15:21] <tbtptb> I'm not sure about this, but mount something else as RO /dev/loop1 and that as loop2 or later to see if the issue is actually /dev/loop.
[15:22] <zoltankodaly> it seems a problem of my pc
[15:22] <zoltankodaly> or at least, of my configuration
[15:22] <ikonia> edge226: so "invalid argument" seems a key bit of information as /dev/loop1 is being passed as an argment....
[15:22] <daftykins> jack-: 14.04 desktop yeah? i can guide you to where it is now as i've booted my VM
[15:22] <ikonia> edge226: "NTFS" suggests it's trying to mount it as NTFS
[15:22] <holstein> Asterisks: when that hardware was purchased, a company such as dell spent lots of resources making sure windows was supported and ran on the hardware they sold them.. i find you have to emulate that process in linux.. not just wiping and dropping off a machine, but testing everything and making sure all is well
[15:23] <edge226> ikonia: so what 'should' it be. It is a linux image I would normally write to a USB drive or something.
[15:23] <jack-> daftykins, linuxmint17-mate ;) sorry
[15:23] <holstein> Asterisks: also, support.. where do they get it? do they call you? make sure they know where you intend they ask...
[15:23] <daftykins> jack-: ok, you're aware Mint is not supported in here?
[15:23] <daftykins> !mint | jack-
[15:23] <Asterisks> holstein: I'll be working with their current hardware, but I'll also be on site and plan on testing thoroughly.
[15:23] <zoltankodaly> ive got an asus maximus vi extreme mobo, intel cpu, 2 ati r9 280x and 2 hd
[15:23] <zoltankodaly> memory is ok
[15:23] <ikonia> edge226: I don't know what that image is, I'd have to research what format its in
[15:23] <zoltankodaly> hd are ok
[15:23] <arcsky> hello i have here a laptop with ubuntu livecd.. how can i install vlc since apt-cache search vlc gives nothing..
[15:23] <Asterisks> holstein: and as far as support, I'll be the one they'd have to call, and I do plan on setting that up
[15:23] <zoltankodaly> (tested)
[15:24] <holstein> Asterisks: then, you need to re-consider the install per-machine, unless al the hardware is identical
[15:24] <krauser> hello there
[15:24] <jack-> bla, sure :) i'm only here because of stuff related to ubuntu
[15:24] <edge226> ikonia: it is used on an embedded arm device, I just wanted to grab some files off the ISO to get another partition working.
[15:24] <ikonia> edge226: that tells me nothing about the format, I'd have to look at what format/data storage is being used
[15:24] <Asterisks> holstein: the key will be to ensure the image the clients boot includes any drivers they require, which isn't hard
[15:25] <pakair> arcsky, couldnt you do sudo apt-get install vlc?
[15:25] <holstein> Asterisks: it actually can be impossible
[15:25] <arcsky> pakair: nope
[15:25] <holstein> Asterisks: you were not promised linux support for likely any of that hardware.. which can be challenging if soemthing is not supported out of the box well
[15:25] <arcsky> pakair: i need source list?
[15:25] <holstein> Asterisks: but, regardless, i need to run.. i will PM you my email if you have any questions.. cheers and good luck
[15:25] <daftykins> jack-: anyway, in *real* ubuntu, the system settings program has a 'software and updates' section, which lets you look at other 'download from:' sources, which in turn has a "select best server" option, by testing mirrors for speed and so on. perhaps you have something similar
[15:26] <Asterisks> holstein: you're almost never promised linux support, I've yet to find hardware that flat out would work with linux
[15:26] <varunendra> arcsky, are you connected to internet?
[15:26] <arcsky> varunendra: yes
[15:27] <arcsky> varunendra: apt-get update works fine
[15:27] <jack-> daftykins, i already found the option (configure software sources) in muon
[15:27] <edge226> ikonia: could I just explode the img file?
[15:27] <holstein> Asterisks: i have found *plenty". and its not the resposibility of linux to support the hardware.. and in a corporate enviironment, you may find hardware or software that is not supporting linux well, and i am only suggesting you be prepared for that
[15:27] <varunendra> arcsky, is 'universe' repository enabled while doing update?
[15:27] <ikonia> edge226: how would you "explode it" ?
[15:27] <ikonia> edge226: surly you'd need to know if/how it was compressed and how it's data is stored
[15:28] <edge226> ikonia: so im pretty much screwed as of getting the stuff off without having to dd it somewhere?
[15:28] <ikonia> edge226: who said anything about dd ?
[15:28] <Asterisks> holstein: all the hardware they have is (as I said) old and mass produced.  Both suggest that linux would have drivers floating around
[15:28] <tbtptb> edge226:  can't you read the data as ro?  you can still copy the files then?
[15:28] <ikonia> edge226: if you know the type of file it is, you can probably just mount it as a loop back device
[15:29] <edge226> ikonia: it would contain two partitions a fat and a ext4.
[15:29] <ikonia> edge226: if it's something like squashfs you'll need to mount it then unsquash the file system which normally happens as part of the boot process
[15:29] <edge226> ikonia: nope its not that.
[15:29] <arcsky> http://pastebin.com/MC4zQ75G
[15:29] <ikonia> edge226: it's not what ?
[15:29] <arcsky> varunendra: there u can see[5~
[15:29] <edge226> ikonia: its an image for an imbedded device, squashfs has nothing to do with it. I would be doing dd to a sd or emmc to get the img working.
[15:30] <clevas> My computer supports neither sucureboot nor uefi and ubuntu still wont boot up dual boot
[15:30] <tbtptb> I can remember a method in the distant past of mount individual partitions within a .img file
[15:30] <tbtptb> it involves offsets
[15:30] <ikonia> edge226: how do you know squashfs has nothing to do with it, squash FS is used in embeeded systems to save space
[15:30] <daftykins> tbtptb: sounds nasty
[15:30] <ikonia> edge226: you seem to be sure of what it is not, whithout having any idea of what it is
[15:31] <tbtptb> yeah, but that long ago, much was
[15:31] <ikonia> that doesn't seem possible
[15:31] <daftykins> arcsky: so the question comes to mind - why do you want to install VLC in a live session? :)
[15:31] <edge226> ikonia: I've done a scratch install. Pretty much the only piece I am missing is what command they used to write the image...
[15:31] <varunendra> arcsky, please check - Alt+F2 > "software-properties-gtk" > make sure "Universe" repository is enabled
[15:31] <pakair> arcsky, what error do you get when you  sudo apt-get install vlc?
[15:32] <arcsky> univserse did the trick
[15:32] <ikonia> edge226: a scratch install ? I have no idea what this is / what you're doing
[15:32] <ikonia> edge226: basically try to mount it as a loop back device
[15:32] <ikonia> edge226: see what errors you get and work it through
[15:33] <edge226> ikonia: isnt that what it does by default for a .img file? It was complaining about /dev/loop1 lol...
[15:33] <ikonia> edge226: you just typed "mount" and hoped it would work out
[15:33] <ikonia> edge226: no, you offered no arguments/commands
[15:33] <varunendra> arcsky, in the channel here, you can use "!info <package name>" trick to find which repo it belongs to :)
[15:34] <edge226> ikonia: so what syntax do you suggest. Because I have tried a few things already...
[15:34] <pakair> !info vlc
[15:34] <maddawg> what is being mounted?
[15:34] <edge226> a .img file.
[15:34] <edge226> http://celps.org/p3un6 < you can get the error there.
[15:35] <ikonia> edge226: I'd suggest you try to mount it as a loop back image, or fully understand the format of the image file and mount it correctly
[15:35] <ikonia> edge226: what version of ubuntu is this you're trying to mount it on ?
[15:35] <edge226> ikonia: and I asked systax. I've looked on the net. tried what people said for loopback devices and I get the exact same message.
[15:35] <ikonia> edge226: what syntax have you used
[15:35] <edge226> ikonia: 14.04
[15:36] <daftykins> edge226: what do you hope to achieve by mounting the image of an ARM architecture OS?
[15:36] <edge226> mount -o loop .img place; someone else said mount -R loop .img place.
[15:36] <ikonia> edge226: run file against the image file
[15:36] <edge226> daftykins: its a prebuilt funtoo, My funtoo isnt booting so I was going to snag the kernel stuff off of there and see if that worked.
[15:37] <maddawg> are you actually writing word "place"
[15:37] <daftykins> edge226: you've made your own somehow?
[15:37] <maddawg> also what's the error you are getting
[15:37] <edge226> maddawg: lol no, I just said that so I did not have to type a bunch of stuff.
[15:38] <edge226> daftykins: There was a funtoo img available that I tested and it worked. It contained Mate and I wanted a fresh install so I built one. It doesnt boot so in order to test the kernel that I built I want to grab the one I know worked.
[15:38] <tbtptb> bootable?  There should be a way to make another bootable image file.
[15:39] <daftykins> edge226: seems like a totally backwards approach :)
[15:41] <edge226> daftykins: yeah I never figured it would be this difficult, I think I may have to backup my current ubuntu install from the SD, write the funtoo image over, pull the kernel, rezero the drive and then reflash the ubuntu lol.
[15:41] <tbtptb> lol
[15:41] <phirex> Hey, just tried fixing my boot using boot-repair-disk and now i get "Missing operating system" - here is the output from boot-repair-disk http://paste.ubuntu.com/7608397/
[15:41] <edge226> tbtptb: too bad the easy fix wont work. At least I can be crafty to force it to work lol.
[15:42] <sparrow051> did anyone have a internet download manager for ubuntu
[15:42] <tbtptb> there is a saying out there: if it don't fit, make it
[15:42] <xangua> sparrow051: uget is one
[15:42] <sparrow051> ???
[15:43] <john_rambo> sparrow051: multiget
[15:43] <pakair> sparrow051, wget
[15:44] <phirex> if anyone could take a look and see if they can solve my issue i would appreciate it
[15:44] <edge226> ikonia: http://celps.org/q2jvb
[15:44] <daftykins> phirex: i think you should boot a LiveCD, chroot your install then install GRUB
[15:46] <daftykins> phirex: what's the story with this install? is it a totally fresh one? the log seems to suggest issues with the partitions
[15:48] <daftykins> phirex: i can't help if you disappear :)
[15:48] <varunendra> sparrow051, 'downthemall' is one that integrates with firefox
[15:48] <phirex> daftykins: No its not fresh at all.
[15:48] <daftykins> phirex: what changed between when things worked and now, then?
[15:48] <phirex> Installing the newest kernel
[15:49] <phirex> but i could boot into one of the older kernels before
[15:49] <daftykins> phirex: but after grub-repair it's all gone?
[15:49] <daftykins> er boot repair sorry
[15:49] <phirex> but this time, while the faulty kernel was loading i rebooted
[15:50] <phirex> and i think something got fuc*ed
[15:50] <daftykins> phirex: yeah, can you boot a live session of ubuntu then from a CD, DVD or flash drive?
[15:50] <daftykins> and come back here from that live session
[15:51] <phirex> i am here anyway, my other pc is next to me
[15:51] <daftykins> oh ok
[15:51] <phirex> and it is running the boot-repair live cd
[15:51] <daftykins> you need it to be booted to a live session though
[15:51] <phirex> which looks like a light version of ubuntu
[15:51] <daftykins> so, terminal access is available?
[15:52] <phirex> yep
[15:53] <daftykins> phirex: ok make sure sda1 isn't mounted with "umount /dev/sda" (that may need sudo, i've no idea what that livecd operates like)
[15:53] <daftykins> phirex: oops, that should've read "umount /dev/sda1"
[15:53] <phirex> not mounted
[15:54] <phirex> and btw, when i try accessing the HD from the filemanager i get a mount error :<
[15:54] <daftykins> phirex: yeah, that boot-repair log suggested your filesystem is toast
[15:54] <phirex> :<
[15:55] <daftykins> phirex: ok try "sudo fsck /dev/sda1"
[15:55] <phirex> Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sda1
[15:56] <daftykins> yeah, your boot-repair log said the same... let's see if we can find out what implications that has
[15:57] <daftykins> phirex: do you have backups of the data on this disk?
[15:57] <phirex> you know, before using boot-repair the error i had was "attempt to read or write outside of disk 'hd0'"
[15:58] <phirex> daftykins: Please dont tell me i am going to lose my data. i have nothing backed up :<
[15:58] <daftykins> phirex: well i found an ubuntu forum thread on this exact issue, it doesn't look very good... though there's a claim of success fixing it
[15:59] <daftykins> phirex: if it were fixed - do you have another disk such as an external HDD to copy the data to?
[15:59] <phirex> yes
[15:59] <daftykins> good stuff
[15:59] <daftykins> ok i'm just reading over what this person did on this forum thread
[16:00] <daftykins> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1245536.html
[16:00] <daftykins> have a read too if you like
[16:01] <daftykins> phirex: can you pastebin "dmesg | tail" after the attempted fsck ?
[16:02] <phirex> Buffer I/O error on decide sda1, logical block 27
[16:02] <daftykins> ooooh my
[16:02] <daftykins> phirex: can you type "smartctl" to see if that program is available?
[16:02] <Kryptron> !ubuntu
[16:03] <phirex> not found
[16:03] <phirex> need the smartmontools package?
[16:03] <daftykins> phirex: yeah install that if possible
[16:04] <daftykins> phirex: then pastebin the output of "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda"
[16:05] <phirex> uhmm.. it wants me to configure postfix
[16:06] <phirex> is that something that is used to host files when someone dont have a harddrive or something?
[16:06] <Foxhoundz> Help! I Need help!
[16:06] <daftykins> phirex: nope, postfix is an email server
[16:06] <Foxhoundz>  [ 30.394554]drm_kms_helper: panic occured, switching back to
[16:06] <Foxhoundz>                    text console
[16:06] <daftykins> phirex: is it refusing to install smartmontools until it does that?
[16:06] <Foxhoundz> I get this when trying to install ubuntu on Intel's NUC
[16:07] <phirex> daftykins: it just opens the postfix and asks me to configure it
[16:07] <phirex> no idea why...
[16:07] <mhabibi> I have a problem with firefox in ubuntu 14.4. firefox doesn't show any text in some sites as google. ?
[16:08] <daftykins> phirex: just run through it picking defaults then, you might be ok
[16:08] <scrubfest> How should I debug my internet connection using the terminal? The internet icon displays several bars and I connected to my wifi successfully, but I still don't have internet access / browser fail to load urls
[16:08] <daftykins> Foxhoundz: i have found information online saying there is a bug in the kernel on the install media of 14.04
[16:09] <steven_saus> scrubfest: Do other devices/boxes connect properly?
[16:09] <scrubfest> It does... seemingly. But the connection drops every 5 minutes or less
[16:09] <scrubfest> And reconnects successfully.
[16:10] <scrubfest> Initially I had internet access. Surfed flawlessly for an hour or so
[16:10] <phirex> daftykins: cant do it, it doesnt go through the configuration process
[16:11] <daftykins> phirex: ok, to go further i think you're going to need to make a proper ubuntu desktop liveUSB up
[16:11] <phirex> what does smartct1 does?
[16:11] <steven_saus> scrubfest: If the connection drops with all devices, then your router might be the issue.
[16:11] <daftykins> phirex: my idea is to check the SMART status of the hard disk to see if it's damaged before proceeding
[16:11] <steven_saus> scrubfest: If it's just the linux box, then is it wired or wireless connection?
[16:12] <scrubfest> Not all devices, this device, the one running ubuntu (the others are on windows / ios)
[16:12] <scrubfest> wireless
[16:12] <phirex> shouldn't i attempt a grub fix?
[16:12] <scrubfest> my card is: intel wifi link 5100
[16:12] <steven_saus> scrubfest: Nodnod, just checking.   OK - does *wired* work okay?
[16:12] <varunendra> scrubfest, can you give us the pastebin link of the report generated by this script please ? - http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=13024222
[16:12] <andlabs> Hi. I want to test this patch, which claims to fix a bug I found in package oxygen-gtk3 - https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333983#c4. I did apt-get source to download the source and applied the patch - is there any special procedure for me to build the package as it stands and install it, even temporarily, for this bugfix test? Thanks.
[16:13] <scrubfest> two sec, I'll check if wired works, varuenedra how do I generate said report?
[16:13] <daftykins> phirex: nothing should be done to the disk until its' condition can be confirmed
[16:14] <daftykins> phirex: i can help if you follow my suggestions, but as you saw you can't even fsck this partition right now, so you don't have a hope in hell of installing GRUB to it
[16:14] <varunendra> scrubfest, instructions to download and run the script are in the post, just upload the contents of the generated file (wireless-info.txt) to pastebin and give us its link
[16:14] <steven_saus> Oooh, that's a nice script.
[16:15] <phirex> i think i am going to die...
[16:15] <scrubfest> steven_saus wired works
[16:16] <daftykins> phirex: well there's plenty of time for that later, can you make up the USB flash drive with a desktop ubuntu with another computer?
[16:16] <bekks> phirex: Better get a live cd ;)
[16:16] <varunendra> steven_saus, I call it my mess over forum user 'Wild Man's neat work :p
[16:16] <daftykins> bekks: not sure if you've followed that one, but it seems like a pretty toasted disk =/
[16:17] <phirex> no no please dont say that
[16:17] <phirex> the disk was fine untill an hour ago
[16:17] <steven_saus> scrubfest, then give varunendra's script a go.
[16:17] <daftykins> phirex: you're not replying, are you downloading the ISO of desktop?
[16:17] <scrubfest> omw
[16:17] <phirex> yes
[16:17] <phirex> i didnt notice my laptop wasn't charging and my computer turned off
[16:17] <phirex> but that shouldn't toast a harddrive :<
[16:18] <bekks> daftykins: yeah, I did, but obviously he needs a live cd for further investigation of the disk.
[16:18] <daftykins> *nod*
[16:18] <daftykins> boot-repair doesn't sound very good if it's trying to configure postfix XD
[16:21] <phirex> daftykins: no idea whats that thing
[16:21] <scrubfest> varuendra I got authorization failed
[16:22] <phirex> anyway i will have the live usb ready within a few minutes
[16:22] <raj`> how do I make RtAlt not a compose key anymore?
[16:22] <raj`> LtAlt+f gives me ^[f ... RtAlt+f just gives me f
[16:23] <daftykins> phirex: good stuff, highlight me when you're booted into it
[16:23] <scrubfest> varunendra I got authorization failed
[16:24] <skinux> Why is OpenJDK (I believe default of Ubuntu) supposed to be better than Sun(Oracle) Java?
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> skinux: its not better, its just different
[16:25] <maddawg> i'm better
[16:25] <varunendra> scrubfest, just tried here, works fine. Which step did it fail at?
[16:25] <bekks> skinux: It isnt, actually :)
[16:25] <phirex> daftykins: weird, i think i managed installing smartmontools using synaptic on the boot-repair but i still cant run smartct1
[16:25] <skinux> Okay.
[16:25] <wilee-nilee> bekks, I heard it was the same
[16:25] <daftykins> phirex: ah, it's L at the end, not 1
[16:25] <phirex> i'll just wait for the ubuntu live usb tho
[16:25] <phirex> oh ok
[16:26] <phirex> so i got it now
[16:26] <phirex> :)
[16:26] <daftykins> sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> skinux: if the default does what you need, use it. If you need the features in Oracle Java, use that
[16:26] <phirex> ok
[16:26] <scrubfest> "connection to dl.dropboxusercontent.com \n {lotsofnumbers}...connected. \n HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 401 Not Authorized \n Authorization Failed" varunendra
[16:26] <phirex> it finisged in a sec
[16:26] <skinux> And, am I correct that using 'sudo' is the same as using 'su' in this distro?
[16:27] <phirex> what are we looking for?
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> skinux: no the commands are different in function
[16:27] <daftykins> phirex: post the output to paste.ubuntu.com
[16:27] <skinux> Well, 'su
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> skinux: su is used to become or run commands as a different user
[16:27] <phirex> how do i post output to a file?
[16:27] <skinux> 'su' is disabled isn't it?
[16:27] <varunendra> scrubfest, try the 'manual' (no internet) method. Although the commandline method also works here..
[16:27] <luckybunny> I have beaten the black screen (hallelujah) but still can't get unity going
[16:28] <holstein> luckybunny: try something that doesnt require 3d..
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> skinux: sudo is used to grant admin access to specific users.
[16:28] <holstein> luckybunny: if only for testing, try lxde or xfce
[16:28] <skinux> I know we cannot login as root user.
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> skinux: yes, thats a good thing too
[16:28] <wilee-nilee> luckybunny, You at trusty now?
[16:28] <phirex> because the internet client i got with this live cd crashes after a second
[16:28] <varunendra> phirex, (command) > (file)
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> skinux: you can get a root prompt with: sudo -s
[16:28] <luckybunny> yes
[16:29] <phirex> thank you
[16:29] <varunendra> np :)
[16:29] <wilee-nilee> luckybunny, Have you tried a nomodeset boot as a test?
[16:29] <daftykins> phirex: you could try installing "pastebinit" then simply run "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit"
[16:29] <phirex> 7608673
[16:29] <luckybunny> I thank my lucky stars I stuck a folder on my desktop at some point. I can use it to open nautilus, which I can then use to get a terminal
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> skinux: su isnt disabled, you can use it to become any user you know the password of
[16:30] <phirex> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7608673/
[16:30] <daftykins> reading now
[16:30] <phirex> thanks
[16:30] <daftykins> phirex: what kind of system is this? laptop?
[16:30] <skinux> Well, if I try to login to root using 'su' it says authentication failure
[16:30] <phirex> yeah
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> luckybunny: pressnCTRL + ALT + T and you will open a terminal
[16:31] <luckybunny> ActionParsnip: tried that a few times. nada
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> skinux: yes because the root account is disabled and has no password
[16:31] <jack-> skinux, what you want is "sudo su -"
[16:31] <skinux> Oh! Cool! I thought we couldn't do anything as root directly.
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> skinux: that doesnt mean su is disabled in any way
[16:31] <luckybunny> going to try the onmodeset boot, but I think I already have done so. worth checking out, still
[16:31] <daftykins> phirex: ok, i'd carry on making up the flash drive with true desktop ubuntu please - the disk is fine in hardware terms, just very weird in software terms
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> skinux: sudo -s ,root console is yours
[16:31] <phirex> ok
[16:31] <phirex> that makes me happier :)
[16:31] <phirex> it should, right?
[16:31] <wilee-nilee> skinux, how did the memory test go?
[16:32] <skinux> In early version of Ubuntu and other distros, 'su' and root password would become root.
[16:32] <skinux> What memory test?
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> skinux: if you have multiple users you can use su to become them using su
[16:32] <wilee-nilee> skinux, sorry I meant another user my mistake. ;)
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> skinux: yes because su without a username is efeectively 'su root'
[16:32] <daftykins> phirex: should...?
[16:32] <phirex> daftykins: make me happier?
[16:33] <skinux> ActionParsnip: how do we login to another user desktop instead of just shell?
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> skinux: and the account is disabled, so you will get an authentication failure
[16:33] <daftykins> phirex: oh yes
[16:33] <skinux> Is it disabled in Ubuntu kernel or is there a setting somewhere?
[16:33] <luckybunny> nomodeset boot makes no difference (apart from the lack of splash screen)
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> skinux: you'd need to log out to log in as another user on the desktop
[16:33] <luckybunny> at least I'm getting a desktop now though
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> skinux: its a setting on the sccount
[16:34] <docmur_> Does anyone know any good PCB design tools for Ubuntu?  I'm use to Altium / Orcad on Windows
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> skinux: its not needed, you have sudo
[16:34] <skinux> How about restarting graphical desktop using keyboard combination? How do we do that these days?
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> skinux: killall -u $USER ,will do it
[16:34] <wilee-nilee> luckybunny, Thanks, use nicks here to preface those you answer please,
[16:34] <luckybunny> wilee-nilee: ok
[16:34] <skinux> How about if system is being too laggy to type anything into a shell?
[16:35] <skinux> Ctrl+Alt+Backspace used to restart Windowing system, but doesn't do anything anymore.
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> skinux: maybe ALT + K + PrintScreen maybe
[16:35] <SchrodingersScat> ActionParsnip: did it always use to work like that? I seem to remember being able to lock one user's session and log in as another?
[16:35] <wilee-nilee> luckybunny, ctrl-alt-t gives you a terminal as well.
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> SchrodingersScat: could use the switch user function I guess
[16:36] <luckybunny> wilee-nilee: I know, but it's not working
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> skinux: i believe there is a switch user feature in Ubuntu...
[16:36] <skinux> Sometimes my system gets bogged down so that all I can do is move cursor, but clicking things doesn't do any god.
[16:36] <wilee-nilee> luckybunny, Really strange you can install synapse it is a small search gui that would help you here,
[16:36] <SchrodingersScat> ActionParsnip: it's greyed out on mine, maybe thats because I only have one user with login?
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> SchrodingersScat: could make a new user to test ;)
[16:37] <daftykins> skinux: zapping has been disabled for 4+ years
[16:37] <skinux> Not switch user....just restart desktop environment
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> skinux: try the key combo
[16:37] <skinux> Which one?
[16:38] <skinux> ALT+K+PrintScreen
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> skinux: ALTGR + K + PrintScreen
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> So, yes
[16:38] <luckybunny> wilee-nilee: is that on a non-default repo?
[16:38] <sara33> hello everyone.
[16:38] <skinux> All that did was take a screenshot
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> skinux: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[16:39] <OerHeks> ALTgr K printscreen, easy
[16:39] <sara33> is it possible for me to install and run ubuntu 14.04 off a pen drive without using my hard disk?
[16:39] <skinux> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[16:39] <sara33> sorry i am rather new to linux
[16:39] <skinux> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> sara33: yes you can run Ubuntu off a USB stick
[16:39] <wilee-nilee> luckybunny, Not sure thought it was in one of the main there is the partners and independent, you can look at gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  to see what repos are open.
[16:39] <OerHeks> sara33, sure, the iso has got a live mode.
[16:40] <sara33> ok but can i save this too. i used to use puppy linux but there are barely any apps so i want to see if i have the same functionality.
[16:41] <sara33> but someone set that up for me and i dont know how it works - all my data and downloads are also saved to the pen drive
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> skinux: i believe you can reenable CTRL + ALT + Backspace in keyboard settings
[16:41] <skinux> sara33: I've Ubuntu 14.04 Live on a USB
[16:41] <Trical> i have this problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1788211 but on 14.04
[16:41] <skinux> ActionParsnip: I did look there, but I didn't find any way to make the association
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> sara33: yes, just install to the USB as you would a normal drive
[16:41] <daftykins> sara33: you want to make up the flash drive as a persistent install
[16:41] <daftykins> or ^
[16:42] <porimonial> why IDE Code::Blocks don't have permissions to run C++ program, which i saved on my desktop?
[16:42] <sara33> yes that was the word i was looking for - persistent install
[16:42] <sara33> glad to know that is possible.
[16:42] <skinux> Oh wait! What is the shell command to restart desktop environment?
[16:42] <sara33> is there any windows program that can install ubuntu on a pen drive for me with persistent install?
[16:43] <rvdv> skinux: sudo service lightdm restart
[16:43] <sara33> thank you ActionParsnip, OerHeks, skinux and daftykins for your help so far.
[16:43] <wilee-nilee> sara33, unetbootin will
[16:43] <sara33> ok great. thanks wilee-nilee
[16:43] <skinux> rvdv: Is the command the same for Unity?
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> skinux: killall -u $USER
[16:44] <daftykins> skinux: yes
[16:44] <rvdv> skinux: I think it is the same in all ubuntu versions, includubg the one with unity
[16:44] <skinux> LightDM is used by all desktop environments on Ubuntu now?
[16:44] <luckybunny> lightdm is used byunity
[16:44] <skinux> Okay.
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> skinux: byndefault yes, butbgdm, slim and other DMs exist
[16:44] <rvdv> skinux: I think so ... it does in kubuntu
[16:44] <porimonial> why Code::Blocks don't have permissions to run C++ program, which i saved on my desktop?
[16:45] <scrubfest> varunendra after a reboot it works...
[16:45] <luckybunny> kdm for kubuntu
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> skinux: but gdm*
[16:45] <rvdv> luckybunny: now also lightdm
[16:45] <luckybunny> ah
[16:45] <bekks> rvdv: in kubuntu, kdm is used.
[16:45] <Trical> i have this problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1788211 transmission starts to fast so it only works when i manually restart it
[16:45] <rvdv> not in 14.04
[16:45] <bekks> rvdv: In 14.04.
[16:46] <skinux> I added it as a command via keyboard settings, but didn't give me a way to set keyboard combination and it automatically disabled it anyway.
[16:46] <bekks> rvdv: I am on running 14.04, and I was asked to replace lightdm with kdm upon the installation of kubuntu-desktop.
[16:46] <opinion> hi
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> Trical: make a script to sleep a few seconds, then launch the applocation
[16:47] <rvdv> bekks: then you have not a standard install ...
[16:47] <Trical> it's tarts from the standard init.d script..
[16:47] <bekks> rvdv: whats nonstandard about "sudp apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" then?
[16:47] <bekks> *sudo
[16:47] <rvdv> I did not see that option ... or choose to keep clicking next :-)
[16:48] <rvdv> bekks ... if you installed kubuntu that way and onot through a kubuntu install disk ... yes that is not standard
[16:48] <bekks> rvdv: Whats nonstandard about installing a standard package?
[16:49] <varunendra> scrubfest, the wifi?
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> Rvdv: kubuntu-desktop depends on kde-workspace which has kdm as a dep
[16:49] <rvdv> standard kubuntu install is in my opinion installing it through kubuntu iso
[16:49] <habanany> Guys I installed ubuntu persistent on a usb and I would like to make it a little less heavier,  is ok to remove samba and remina?
[16:49] <scrubfest> varunendra Yeah...
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> Rvdv: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/kde-workspace
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> habanany: absolutely
[16:49] <bekks> rvdv: Then your opinion is not compliant with the ubuntu package dependencies.
[16:49] <rvdv> ActionParsnip: ?
[16:50] <rvdv> bekks: can be
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> Rvdv: kubuntu will use kdm instead of lightdm
[16:50] <scrubfest> I'm more curious than anything else. Maybe I'll get the same problem, if so I shall return!
[16:50] <rvdv> not when installed from kubuntu install iso
[16:50] <bekks> rvdv: always.
[16:50] <varunendra> scrubfest, so what is/was the original problem? When and how often does it happen?
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> Rvdv: it will be installed, the link shows this
[16:51] <TheLoverThatKill> Hey
[16:51] <xubuntu> Hi guys
[16:51] <TheLoverThatKill> Who has skype xD I am bored as fuck
[16:51] <Guest35114> I`m trying to run apt-get to recover the system from the boot disk
[16:51] <Guest35114> I tried chown
[16:51] <scrubfest> varunendra: Wifi stopped working even though it showed connected. I haven't been using ubuntu for more than a couple of days so hard to say how "often" it happens other than this being the first time
[16:52] <Guest35114> but apt fails to fetch data
[16:52] <habanany> Thanks ActionParsnip
[16:52] <TheLoverThatKill> What happend to the system?
[16:52] <Guest35114> what can I do
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> Guest35114: do you have web access in liveCD?
[16:52] <Guest35114> Action, I do
[16:52] <Guest35114> TheLover, Poweroff
[16:52] <daftykins> TheLoverThatKill: sorry but this channel is support only, you can make some skype friends in #ubuntu-offtopic though
[16:52] <Guest35114> I`m talking to you through the rescue CD
[16:53] <Guest35114> but after chowning the trouble partition, it won`t work
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> Guest35114: have you chrooted to the installed OS?
[16:53] <varunendra> scrubfest, next time it happens, run these three commands in the sequence given here - 1) sudo modprobe -rv iwldvm iwlwifi , 2) sudo modprobe -v iwlwifi , 3) sudo modprobe -v iwldvm
[16:53] <Guest35114> Action, yes
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> Guest35114: you dont need to chown anything
[16:53] <Guest35114> all right
[16:53] <Guest35114> Ididn`t
[16:53] <Guest35114> Just chrooted
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> Guest35114: can you ping 8.8.8.8 in the chroot?
[16:54] <sickgirl> I'm trying to change my mac in wlan with macchanger but it doesn't seem to work.. anybody can help me?
[16:54] <varunendra> scrubfest, they will just reload the driver. If it makes it work, it is better than reboot. But if you need a proper fix, or if this trick doesn't work, I'd suggest to post a thread at ubuntuforums.org
[16:54] <simone> hi
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> Guest35114: why do you need a chroot to fix apt-get anyway?
[16:55] <daftykins> sickgirl: for what purpose?
[16:56] <Guest35114> Action
[16:56] <sickgirl> daftykins: just because I want to see if I can change it
[16:56] <Guest35114> Yes
[16:56] <sickgirl> =)
[16:56] <Guest35114> I can
[16:56] <rvdv> ActionParsnip: & bekks ... I am now with Debian online and just checked my very standard kubuntu install which I did a few days ago ...
[16:56] <phirex> daftykins: sorry its taking me so long, i mistakely added 2GB of persistence to it! just finished tho
[16:56] <Guest35114> It just apt that refuses to work
[16:56] <Guest35114> What do I do
[16:56] <rvdv> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3431 Feb  5 18:16 /mnt/ubuntu/etc/init.d/lightdm
[16:56] <phirex> sickgirl: or perhaps trying to crack into someone's wifi...
[16:56] <rvdv> No kdm
[16:56] <Guest35114> sorru, the focus is strange
[16:57] <daftykins> sickgirl: yeah, honesty makes it a bit easier to sympathise with help requests
[16:57] <daftykins> i concur with phirex on this one
[16:57] <Guest35114> W: Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/Release.gpg  Could not resolve 'extras.ubuntu.com'
[16:57] <Guest35114> This i s what I get
[16:57] <Guest35114> for instance
[16:57] <sickgirl> phirex: no, I want to protect my computer because I guess it was hacked
[16:57] <varunendra> sickgirl, does the manual method mentioned here work (replacing 'eth0' with 'wlan0') ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2228315
[16:57] <daftykins> Guest35114: echo nameserver 8.8.8.8 > /etc/resolv.conf
[16:57] <phirex> how will changing mac address help protect your computer?
[16:58] <daniel31> sickgirl I'm not familiar with machanger but you should be able to do that from the terminal. ah, I guess varundra said that..
[16:58] <daniel31> i
[16:58] <daftykins> sickgirl: that is the worst way to go about attempting any kind of protection
[16:58] <sickgirl> daftykins: phirex. so I read that if someone gets my mac address it's easier to get acess to my computer, but I already changed the ip the only thing I cannot change is this shitty mac address
[16:58] <daniel31> i'm not entirely sure that changing your mac will nessesarily have the effect you desire, unless what you desire is some sort of penetration or intrusion test, but thats your call...
[16:58] <daftykins> sickgirl: i'm afraid wherever you read that was talking rubbish
[16:59] <daftykins> sickgirl: why do you think you were hacked? i feel like you've been in here saying this before...
[16:59] <sickgirl> daniel31: varunendra I'm gonna check the link, I tried to change it acessing the router admin page, but there it's like locked option, gimme 5 mins
[16:59] <planetmaker> sickgirl, that does not sound like sane advice. It's security by obscurity at best
[16:59] <simone> $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript && ./install.sh
[17:00] <phirex> daftykins: ok! i'm on liveCD now!
[17:00] <sickgirl> daftykins: yes I was here, I'm just trying to learn how to lock my computer in all ways =D haha
[17:00] <Guest35114> dafty
[17:00] <planetmaker> (and it's also not obscurity really)
[17:00] <Guest35114> thanks
[17:00] <Guest35114> will ytu
[17:00] <sickgirl> planetmaker: which one?
[17:00] <galih> Hi
[17:00] <Guest35114> Now it works
[17:00] <Guest35114> thanks
[17:00] <daniel31> yeah, what they said. if someone has your mac it wont make it easier to hack into yur computer. if youre using linux and have good passwords youre already ahead of the game. the only time people need to know their mac addres is on some private networks, e.g. soe university residential networks only work with a list of known mac addresses. the only time you'd want to change it that I can think of is if you want to hack into those networks.
[17:01] <daftykins> phirex: nice, just to confirm can you try "sudo -fyM /dev/sda1" again ?
[17:01] <SchrodingersScat> afaik the mac wouldn't leave the lan anyway, and if [they] are already on your lan, you have other concerns
[17:01] <phirex> daftykins: will do in a minute, didnt know it takes so long to load...
[17:01] <KGM70> o/
[17:02] <sickgirl> daftykins: planetmaker daniel31 varunendra here http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/56181/hack-into-a-computer-through-mac-and-ip-address
[17:02] <sickgirl> Ok i must give up my paranoia =) I guess
[17:02] <phirex> daftykins: you sure u didnt miss anything on that command
[17:02] <daftykins> sickgirl: yeah, this is a really bad approach.
[17:02] <simone> ciao
[17:03] <daftykins> phirex: lol oops
[17:03] <galih> I've a little problem with my macbook pro which run Xubuntu 14.04, I can't  suspend without problem to return on use. Can you help me please ? Thank's
[17:03] <daftykins> phirex: sudo fsck -fyM /dev/sda1
[17:03] <sickgirl> daftykins: ok
[17:03] <SchrodingersScat> sickgirl: that strikes me as a joke, terminal velocity of their modem..
[17:03] <daniel31> hahaha. David Houde (the poster) was making a joke sickgirl. I used to do that to the kids at school when I was young all the time.
[17:03] <phirex> yep, same error
[17:03] <sickgirl> daniel31: booooo
[17:03] <sickgirl> ahaha
[17:03] <sickgirl> ok guys
[17:04] <maddawg> WOAH... is that a girl??
[17:04]  * maddawg drools
[17:04] <wilee-nilee> !ot | maddawg STOP
[17:04] <daniel31> not cool, maddawg. not cool.
[17:04] <SchrodingersScat> !guidelines | maddawg
[17:04] <phirex> daftykins: same error ....
[17:05] <maddawg> sorry
[17:05] <maddawg> poor joke
[17:05] <wilee-nilee> maddawg, keep your misogyny to yourself
[17:05] <daftykins> phirex: yeah, just considering how to proceed
[17:05] <maddawg> it was a joke.. i'm not really like that
[17:05] <KGM70> all that fuss over one word
[17:05] <maddawg> i promise
[17:05] <daftykins> phirex: how big is your external drive?
[17:05] <phirex> 1TB
[17:06] <daftykins> phirex: is it empty?
[17:06] <phirex> no but i can free up as much needed
[17:06] <phirex> and basically the only really important stuff i want to backup wont take more than 5GB
[17:07] <conall2> Hi Guys. Im having a problem with lightdm. When I log on to my main user account nothing appears. But it works fine for guest and others.
[17:07] <Guest35114> I hope this works now
[17:07] <rvgate_> I have an old (or new) unlabeled Ubuntu disc laying around... How do i find out what version it is (13.10/14.04?) without rebooting and booting from disc?
[17:07] <daftykins> phirex: i was debating imaging up the entire disk onto the external so any attempts could be considered less risky :S
[17:07] <Guest35114> having the system powering off while you upgrade is a nightmare
[17:07] <conall2> *Just the background appears*
[17:07] <wilee-nilee> conall2, Sounds more like mods you have made
[17:08] <habanany> I'm trying to remove samba but I get samba is not installed,  should I type $ sudo apt-get autoremove samba-common ?
[17:08] <conall2> wilee-nilee, How would I go about fixing it?
[17:08] <phirex> uhmmmmm
[17:08] <OerHeks> habanany, stop samba first, then remove/purge
[17:08] <Guest35114> Why is it installing gnome modules...
[17:08] <dirty__> hi all just curious if there is a good compiler editor for objective c on ubuntu i have a mac but want to learn ob c any guidance welcomed
[17:08] <wilee-nilee> conall2, when was it gone and what did you do before that?
[17:09] <daniel31> guest35114 : tell me about it. forced upgrade for me to today due to end of life. 3 powercuts later and my system is fried. just burning another image to reinstall now :-(
[17:09] <conall2> wilee-nilee, thanks for the help. It just went on me today. I remeber plaing around with some files but I dont remember what
[17:09] <phirex> daftykins: hey! my gf just found another 1TB external drive :)
[17:09] <Guest35114> daniel, I wish Ubuntu would keep the core packages cached so it would gracefully revert
[17:10] <phirex> daftykins: brand new...
[17:10] <daftykins> phirex: praise me to ms.phirex \o/
[17:10] <daftykins> *be
[17:10] <daniel31> so do I, guest35114. so do I.
[17:10] <wilee-nilee> conall2, Ah, that is a problem at least for me to help, here details are the rule.
[17:10] <Guest35114> All you would need would be a working grub, and then, revert upgrade
[17:10] <Guest35114> (or rollback, etc)
[17:10] <wilee-nilee> Guest35114, wrong
[17:10] <phirex> daftykins: hehehe. ok so what do i do? :)
[17:11] <daftykins> phirex: got it all plugged in and can see it's nice and empty?
[17:11] <Guest35114> wrong
[17:11] <Guest35114> why
[17:11] <daniel31> I wonder if somekind of locked grub partition with recovery might be the answer, like with phones. they were talking about it over at the debian security mailing list earlier today, who knows, might be the way forwards.
[17:11] <wilee-nilee> Guest35114, There is no rollback.
[17:11] <conall2> wilee-nilee, I understand. but I cant seem to remember what I did. I think it was just in my home dir. Do you know of the important files in the home dir that lightdm would need
[17:11] <Guest35114> That is my point
[17:11] <habanany> OerHeks whats the command
[17:11] <Guest35114> I WISH there was
[17:11] <phirex> daftykins: yep.
[17:11] <dirty__> hi all just curious if there is a good compiler editor for objective c on ubuntu i have a mac but want to learn ob c on my ubuntu system as the mac isnt my fav any guidance welcomed
[17:12] <wilee-nilee> conall2, Not really, If I had a clue in this ( what you did) I would suggest.
[17:12] <daftykins> phirex: ok see if 'clonezilla' is available
[17:12] <phirex> daftykins: just a few files coming with it
[17:12] <wilee-nilee> Guest35114, than if it is a want don;t suggest something that is not there, that is not helping.
[17:13] <conall2> I was playing around with chmod but as far as I can tell all the permissions are the same as on my other user account
[17:13] <Guest35114> wilee, that is not helping why, exactly
[17:13] <phirex> daftykins: no, will install now
[17:13] <Guest35114> Just because it`s not there, is that it
[17:14] <wilee-nilee> Guest35114, That is a basic problem, I am not going to argue with inane questions.
[17:14] <metaphysician> In 14.04, there is a bug in /usr/lib/pm-utils/power.d/wireless script at line 23. It should "enabled" at the end of path /sys/class/net/$1/device/enable. Wireless power saving does not get applied
[17:14] <phirex> daftykins: "unable to locate package clonezilla" :(
[17:14] <Guest35114> wilee-nilee, you`re acting like a troll
[17:14] <metaphysician> where $1 is the interface
[17:14] <wilee-nilee> Guest35114, #ubuntu-offtopic is the place for your wishes
[17:14] <daftykins> phirex: had you run an apt-get update prior to that?
[17:14] <ChogyDan> hey folks.  I'm working on a eeepc, which is an older netbook, and I'm getting a kernel oops while trying to install.  Any advice?  I think I'm going to give 12.04 a try...
[17:15] <wilee-nilee> !ops | Guest35114
[17:15] <phirex> daftykins: no... :)
[17:15] <phirex> doing it now
[17:15] <phirex> still not found :<
[17:15] <daftykins> phirex: it appears to be on the universe repos so you might have to enable those in the system settings -> software and sources
[17:15] <Guest35114> Emergency
[17:15] <daftykins> phirex: * software and updates
[17:15] <Guest35114> You`ve gotta be kidding
[17:15] <Guest35114> just because someone disagrees
[17:16] <arw132> hi guys and gays
[17:18] <wilee-nilee> arw132, Do you have a support issue? I'm hoping you meant gals.
[17:18] <arw132> yes yes
[17:18] <daniel31> Hmm what kind of emergencies might this channel have? I hosed my system earlier I guess that was an emergency...
[17:18] <wilee-nilee> arw132, Cool. ;)
[17:18] <daftykins> that'd be more personal than channel ;)
[17:19] <daniel31> lol
[17:19] <wilee-nilee> daftykins, a continued diatribe of dis help and name calling is an issue.
[17:19] <wilee-nilee> it will only get worse
[17:22] <phirex> daftykins: i cant seem to find that repo
[17:22] <wilee-nilee> ChogyDan, Have you summed checked the iso or the burn/load of the install media?
[17:22] <varunendra> metaphysician, who was your msg directed to? The info is useful by the way, how did you discover that?
[17:22] <daftykins> phirex: do you see the tickboxes in the software and updates part of system settings?
[17:23] <phirex> yes
[17:23] <daftykins> phirex: so the second one, universe should be ticked?
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> ChogyDan: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[17:23] <phirex> got it
[17:23] <phirex> ticked it
[17:23] <daftykins> phirex: ok, close out and re-run apt-get update
[17:24] <phirex> was easier than i though, i was looking to add a specific repository
[17:24] <ChogyDan> wilee-nilee: yes, ironically I ran into another media issue that the built in medium checker doesn't pick up, so I don't think it is a media issue
[17:24] <wilee-nilee> ChogyDan, What you think is an opinion, a sum check is empirical.
[17:24] <daniel31> Hmm. So I'm on a mac and just finished dd'ing my usb install media. "Disc was unreadable, would you like to initialise." is this likely to be a  problem? download is from torrent.
[17:25] <phirex> daftykins: ok, installed it
[17:25] <wilee-nilee> gotta check variables ChogyDan
[17:25] <daftykins> phirex: alrighty, so run 'sudo clonezilla'
[17:25] <phirex> done
[17:25] <daniel31> disk utility is refusing to mount or interact with it much...
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> daniel31: did you unplug the usb at any point, or did you keep it in and reboot?
[17:25] <daftykins> phirex: it'll run a ghetto text mode program, asking several questions in sequence
[17:25] <daniel31> haven't unplugged it all. i'm installing it to a different system tho; havent tried booting it yet.
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> daniel31: can you mount the usb partition in MacOS ok?
[17:26] <ChogyDan> wilee-nilee: sum check passed on a usb that I may have installed multiple times to.  It was failing.  I reinstalled same iso, wiping the usb, and then it worked more.  But yeah, I agree in principle to make sure to check the sum
[17:26] <daftykins> phirex: so i'd select device-image
[17:26] <phirex> daftykins: done
[17:26] <daniel31> no actionparsnip, I can't.
[17:26] <wilee-nilee> ChogyDan, Ah cool, it helps to know process you have tried. ;)
[17:26] <daftykins> phirex: then local_dev
[17:27] <phirex> ok
[17:27] <daftykins> phirex: so at that point it breaks out to terminal again and says blah blah make sure the device is plugged in...
[17:27] <phirex> yes
[17:27] <daniel31> both my .img and .iso files: "no readable mountable filesystem" when mounted thru finder. balls. does that mean my download is buggered?
[17:27] <wilee-nilee> ChogyDan, You might try the mini netload.
[17:27] <phirex> done that, back to ghetto, now it shows sda1
[17:28] <daftykins> phirex: sorta like - http://b2b.cbsimg.net/blogs/clonezilla_select_source.png ?
[17:28] <phirex> so i guess i pick that... right?
[17:28] <phirex> yep, only i have sda1 only there
[17:28] <angelica> Hi, I am having issues with my wifi, I have tried different alternatives but nothing works! The connection goes in and out... I am on Ubuntu 14.4 and did a system check, it shows: wireless/wireless_connection	FAILED	Fontconfig warning: ignoring C.UTF-8: not a valid language tag
[17:28] <daftykins> phirex: does it have the same message text? as that appears to be asking to mount the device to backup to, not the partition to backup
[17:29] <angelica> how can I fix the unstable wifi?
[17:29] <ChogyDan> wilee-nilee: yeah, I just sum checked again.  Passed.  I'm worried it is a real kernel bug.  The problem is the system crashes before I can do very much.  I certainly can't file a bug report
[17:30] <phirex> daftykins: yea. thats not good right? we need to choose the usb for that, right?
[17:30] <daftykins> phirex: indeed
[17:30] <phirex> ok it did show something like "usb busy" let me go back to that
[17:30] <daftykins> phirex: ah maybe the USB was auto mounted and the program wants to do it, tell you what quit the program and unplug the drive
[17:31] <daftykins> phirex: yeah i think it's because it was auto mounted
[17:31] <phirex> oh ok
[17:31] <angelica> Hi, I am having issues with my wifi, I have tried different alternatives but nothing works! The connection goes in and out... I am on Ubuntu 14.4 and did a system check, it shows: wireless/wireless_connection FAILED Fontconfig warning: ignoring C.UTF-8: not a valid language tag.  how can I fix the unstable wifi?
[17:31] <metaphysician> varunendra: was directed to developers. discovered while trying to optimize for low power consumption
[17:31] <daftykins> phirex: so re-run "sudo clonezilla" with the drive disconnected
[17:31] <Foxhoundz> I'm still getting drm_kms_helper kernel panic
[17:32] <varunendra> metaphysician, no developers here I think, but I (just a user) noted that. Thanks for the info :)
[17:32] <Foxhoundz> when trying to install Linux on Intel NUC
[17:32] <Foxhoundz> can anyone point me in the right direction? What might cause this kernel panic?
[17:32] <phirex> daftykins: ye, just plugged in the external when it asked me to, and still cant see the device
[17:32] <daftykins> phirex: :/
[17:32] <phirex> i'll try again ..
[17:32] <phirex> maybe i should unmount it
[17:33] <phirex> and then run the program?
[17:33] <varunendra> angelica, can you run a script to generate a report please? Instructions are here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=13024222
[17:33] <daftykins> phirex: yeah give that a try :)
[17:33] <phirex> how do i unmount? :)
[17:33] <daftykins> phirex: also i wonder what format it is in as it's new, possibly NTFS for Windows? not sure if thatll have an issue
[17:33] <usuario> Fixed, at least :)
[17:33] <MrCleanWithHair> ath9k issue: ar5416 chipset card, fails to initialize. http://pastebin.com/1vAxWCZL for relevant information
[17:33] <daftykins> phirex: "sudo fdisk -l" will list disks, you can identify the 1TB external as maybe /dev/sdb or sdc then "sudo umount /dev/sdx"
[17:35] <phirex> that worked :)
[17:35] <daftykins> \o/
[17:35] <phirex> ok so i chose it
[17:35] <daftykins> phirex: so what stage is it onto now?
[17:35] <daftykins> what's the title text
[17:36] <phirex> now it asked for which directory
[17:36] <phirex> so i just put top directory
[17:36] <daftykins> sounds good
[17:36] <phirex> press Enter to continue...
[17:36] <angelica> varunendra: here you go... http://paste.ubuntu.com/7608963/
[17:36] <phirex> now beginner or expert mode?
[17:36] <Asterisks> Quick poll:  Who here knows how DDOS attacks work?
[17:37] <daftykins> phirex: beginner should be fine
[17:37] <phirex> ok, savedisk, saveparts?
[17:37] <daftykins> Asterisks: polls are not allowed and off topic conversation is not allowed
[17:37] <daftykins> !ot | Asterisks
[17:37] <angelica> varunendra: it also created another file called wireless script, you want that one too?
[17:37] <bekks> Asterisks: Wrong channel. Wrong network.
[17:37] <ChogyDan> MrCleanWithHair: maybe your card isn't supported.  Have you search against the card model?
[17:37] <daftykins> phirex: save partition ideally
[17:37] <Asterisks> fuck me, yeah.  wrong place.
[17:37] <varunendra> angelica, nope, that's the script, I needed only the report you already posted
[17:37] <phirex> ok
[17:37] <MrCleanWithHair> ChogyDan-- it's supported
[17:37] <raj`> how do I make RtAlt not a compose key anymore? LtAlt+f gives me ^[f ... RtAlt+f just gives me f
[17:38] <phirex> chose a name, now it listed sda1 ...
[17:38] <Asterisks> daftykins: bekks: sorry, switched channels by accident
[17:38] <phirex> as the source partition, so i guess thats good
[17:38] <phirex> so i choose that
[17:39] <phirex> should i skip "check and repair" ?
[17:39] <daftykins> phirex: yep
[17:39] <phirex> as its probably not going to work lol
[17:39] <daftykins> indeed!
[17:39] <daftykins> it brings a tear to my eye, helping someone who is able to apply their brain ;_;
[17:39] <ChogyDan> MrCleanWithHair: which kernel / release are you running?
[17:39] <angelica> varunendra, I am connected through an usb adaptor, I just plugged it in and got online, the problem is the connection goes in and out and I have to keep clicking on it so it reconnects. The usb adaptor came with a cd that contains drivers for linux, but I dont know what to do with them... maybe thats the issue.
[17:40] <MrCleanWithHair> ChogyDan-- 3.14.4-1
[17:40] <gnu_d> I need some alternative way of keyboard input, something experimental, anybody knows any ? - Like word completions or something like that, but included in GTK/QT ?
[17:40] <phirex> daftykins: ok, i checked "check image" and it seems like it didnt go so well
[17:40] <phirex> "This partition in the image is broken: sda1 :(
[17:41] <daftykins> phirex: surely it didn't copy 600+ GB already
[17:41] <ChogyDan> MrCleanWithHair: I don't think that is a supported kernel
[17:41] <phirex> daftykins: yeah
[17:41] <varunendra> angelica, firstly, please change the encryption type in your router to pure WPA2 with AES (CCMP). Currently it is using WPA/WPA2 mixed mode. Secondly, the driver you have is buggy. Try a patched one mentioned here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=13026049
[17:42] <phirex> paste.ubuntu.com/7608988/
[17:44] <Guest82433> .
[17:45] <angelica> varunendra: there is no pure WPA2 with AES option under wifi security settings
[17:45] <angelica> where else could I check to change that?
[17:45] <varunendra> angelica, what are the options you see? That is a change to be made in the router, not in Ubuntu.
[17:45] <daftykins> phirex: hrmm i don't have a clue why that failed
[17:46] <phirex> uhmmm
[17:46] <usuario> I'm getting this eror, guys
[17:46] <usuario> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/libgnutls26_2.12.23-12ubuntu2.1_i386.deb (--unpack):
[17:46] <daftykins> phirex: ignoring that for a moment, please run "sudo mke2fs -n /dev/sda1"
[17:46] <usuario> how to fix this?
[17:46] <daftykins> usuario: "sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get -f install"
[17:46] <usuario> Thanks!
[17:46] <lamrz> OerHeks, varunendra, hello back..:)
[17:46] <varunendra> MrCleanWithHair, what is the output of "lspci -nn | grep 0280" ?
[17:47] <phirex> daftykins: invalid reserverd blocks percent
[17:47] <varunendra> hello lamrz :)
[17:47] <daftykins> phirex: hrmm a friend is heading over so i may be out of time very shortly
[17:47] <phirex> me too
[17:47] <phirex> i have to go
[17:47] <phirex> to open my bar
[17:47] <phirex> when do you think you'll be here?
[17:47] <lamrz> I have a problem with grep this time. I'm trying to get byte offsets by grep command by using disk images, using the command here: http://dpaste.com/14HF51M/
[17:48] <phirex> i just dont think anyone else has the patience to have to help me go through this :<
[17:48] <angelica> varunendra: options: WEP, Leap, Dynamic WEP, WPA & WPA 2
[17:48] <daftykins> phirex: hmm more likely tomorrow now, but if you come back just say you've got a very messed up disk and need assistance imaging it up to an external before trying to recover
[17:48] <usuario> I'm getting this now
[17:48] <angelica> varunendra: How do I change that in the router?
[17:48] <MrCleanWithHair> varunendra-- no output
[17:48] <lamrz> I could make it work on a usb drive. but on other usb drives I get the message "grep: memory exhausted"..what would this mean?
[17:48] <total_> Hi!
[17:48] <phirex> ok!
[17:48] <usuario>  unable to make backup symlink for `./usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgnutls-extra.so.26': No such file or directory
[17:48] <phirex> thanks a lot daftykins ! will probably talk again tomorrow tho :)
[17:48] <daftykins> no problem, bye for now o/
[17:49] <total_> Need some assistance with dual display and  Nvidia.
[17:49] <usuario> Anything else I cando?
[17:49] <phirex> bye
[17:49] <DrFoo_> I am getting an error when I go to update packages: Requires Installation of Untrusted Packages
[17:49] <DrFoo_> How do I fix
[17:49] <varunendra> angelica, by logging into the routers admin web interface. Refer to your router's manual to see where to change that. They are too different to predict.
[17:49] <daftykins> usuario: please use paste.ubuntu.com to share the entire output from the last command
[17:49] <varunendra> MrCleanWithHair, is it a usb adapter?
[17:50] <usuario> daffykins, I can't... my browsers don't work
[17:50] <MrCleanWithHair> varunendra-- not it's pci
[17:50] <usuario> daftykins, It has to do with that library
[17:51] <total_> I get black screen with X-cursor on my second screen. How to fix this without enable Xinerama? (Nvidia)
[17:51] <varunendra> lamrz, no experience with that.... sorry :(
[17:51] <angelica> varunendra: the router belongs to the internet provider,I will try to call them and see if I can do those changes... but if they say no, is there anyother alternatve?
[17:52] <varunendra> MrCleanWithHair, can you show us a report generated by a script mentioned here - http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=13024222 ??
[17:53] <lamrz> varunendra, no problem at all, thank you! :)
[17:54] <varunendra> angelica, it shouldn't be necessary, it is just not optimal. Pure WPA2 with AES is usually much easier to handle for wifi drivers. Try the patched driver anyway.
[17:54] <MrCleanWithHair> varunendra-- it's not network so no, but I've already put the majority of that information in pastebin so I'll see if I can't just type the rest of it in
[17:54] <angelica> varunendra: you mean the instruction in the link you sent?
[17:55] <SenorSenpai> does anyone know how to reset Tasque?
[17:55] <varunendra> angelica yeah, the one that mentions "rtl8192cu-fixes"
[17:55] <lamrz> I'm trying consulting people on debian channel..
[17:55] <angelica> excellent, I will try hat. Thank you !
[17:56] <dbugger> Hi guys. Is there a hotkey to move a window between different monitors?
[17:56] <varunendra> angelica, hope it works for you too, as it has for a few others .. Good luck! :)
[17:56] <MrCleanWithHair> lamrz-- how big are the two usb drives?
[17:57] <total_> About my dual screen problem, I get this message. What does it mean/how to change position? "Multiple X screens are set to use absolute positioning.  Though it is valid to do so, one or more X screens may be (or may become) unreachable due to overlapping and/or dead space.  It is recommended to only use absolute positioning for the first X screen, and relative positioning for all subsequent X screens."
[17:57] <varunendra> MrCleanWithHair, what do you mean by 'not network'? Is there no internet on the system in question? The post also mentions a manual (no internet) method to run the script.
[17:58] <MrCleanWithHair> I know hot to run a script, but I have no way of getting it to the computer, and no way of getting the output off of the computer
[17:59] <varunendra> MrCleanWithHair, no pen drives or such things?
[17:59] <MrCleanWithHair> varunendra-- nope
[18:00] <varunendra> MrCleanWithHair, it may be really difficult then. Typing all the outputs by hand and such.. :(
[18:01] <varunendra> MrCleanWithHair, does the output of "lspci" show something about a "Network Controller" ?
[18:01] <MrCleanWithHair> varunendra-- line 3 http://pastebin.com/LpmPqq3M
[18:04] <varunendra> MrCleanWithHair, what does this line become with "lspci -nn" ? I am interested in the device ID (e.g. [1234:56ab]
[18:04] <MrCleanWithHair> varunendra-- I'm gonig to plug the desktop into a router and ssh over to it from this laptop. (i know you're thinking, why not just plug the internet into a the router and the router into the computer; because we don't have wired internet, it's a wireless connection, so there is nothing to plug into)
[18:06] <MrCleanWithHair> and 168c:0023
[18:06] <MrCleanWithHair> varunendra-- back in a minute
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> MrCleanWithHair: varunendra: try: sudo modprobe -r ath9k; sleep 2; sudo modprobe ath9k nohwcrypt=1
[18:07] <lamrz> where do I find keyrings in 14.04. ? there seems to be no more the folder '.gnome2'
[18:07] <lamrz> or is it no more under home directory?
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Lamrz: possibly ~/.local/share/keyrings
[18:11] <lamrz> ActionParsnip, it's there, thank you!
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> Lamrz: all i did was search the web.......
[18:11] <xeno> I have tried several things to try to get mailto links to bring up gmail in chrome on Ubuntu.  All fail.  I've tried gnome-gmail install, an old javascript hack, and accessing an item on the navitation window.
[18:11] <SchrodingersScat> !google | ActionParsnip
[18:11] <jirido> Results for | ActionParsnip on Google:
[18:11] <jirido> --
[18:12] <xeno> Please, someone, how do I get mailto in chrome to bring up a mailer in the browser rather than thunderbird?
[18:12] <SchrodingersScat> oh, that's not accurate for the situation, sorry ActionParsnip
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> SchrodingersScat: np
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> Xeno: there is an addon for the browser to do that
[18:12] <xeno> Please tell me the name?
[18:13] <xeno> Is that under extensions?
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Xeno: search the app store dude
[18:13] <xeno> Ok.  Thanks.
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Xeno: mailto gmail chrome ,search for that, first link?
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Xeno: does that one look ok?
[18:15] <xeno> I installed it, and it is still trying to open evolution.
[18:15] <xeno> Works after complete browser reload.
[18:15] <xeno> Thank you Action Parsnip.
[18:16] <xeno> (BTW:  Parsnip was my grandmother's favorite vegetable)
[18:16] <magnet> hi, since upgrading to 14.04, my Gnome shortcuts Ctrl+PageUp/PageDown are not working anymore (eg in Gnome-Terminal or Chromium). I'm using Gnome-FlashBack with metacity. Any pointer where to set them?
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> Xeno: again, all i did was search......
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> Xeno: coukdnt you find that, the search was simple enough.
[18:19] <magnet> seems like I'm hitting #965921
[18:20] <grimeton> hm ubuntu doesn't boot on a hp dl320
[18:20] <grimeton> wtf
[18:20] <Nokiabot> Ftw
[18:21] <Nokiabot> Grimeton :what is the problem
[18:21] <grimeton> it's not booting
[18:21] <bekks> grimeton: do you use the server iso?
[18:21] <ghlh> grimeton, No swearing please. This a live, or fresh install, details are needed. ;)
[18:21] <bekks> grimeton: what does "not booting mean? Where does the whole process get stuck?
[18:21] <grimeton> before starting grub
[18:21] <grimeton> just a second
[18:22] <Galoubet> I recently got my hands on a Steelseries Merc Stealth (which is a keyboard with a builtin gamepad), and found out that some of the gamepad keys have the same keycodes as the regular keyboard keys. I tried to fix this with xev/evtest/xmodmap, and found that the keys actually have the same internal keysysms. Does anyone know how to fix that?
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: is it the installer or an already installed OS?
[18:22] <grimeton> the thing is: i can install it, it all works fine and after the reboot it just sits there and can't boot from the disks
[18:22] <grimeton> it doesn't even launch grub
[18:22] <grimeton> funny fact: debian works
[18:22] <bekks> grimeton: It sits _where_?
[18:23] <bekks> grimeton: Last chance: more information needed.
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: is it the installer, or an installed OSn
[18:23] <grimeton> bekks: go play with yourself
[18:23] <grimeton> ActionParsnip: what?
[18:23] <Nokiabot> Gimerton :that was rude
[18:23] <Squall5668> Who gave you a proliant? :P
[18:23] <bekks> grimeton: I prefer to not support you anymore, in future, ever, instead. Good luck.
[18:23] <ghlh> sigh this will be a block or ban guaranteed
[18:23] <bekks> grimeton: Oh, and just to mention it: ignoring you.
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: 3rd time now. Are you trying to install the OS, or is the issue with Ubuntu which is on the internal drive?
[18:24] <bekks> grimeton: No, I will just not support him ever again, in no channel on freenode.
[18:24] <Nokiabot> Bang !
[18:24] <grimeton> ActionParsnip: 20:22 < grimeton> the thing is: i can install it, it all works fine and after the reboot it just sits there and can't boot from the disks
[18:24] <grimeton> ActionParsnip: 20:22 < grimeton> it doesn't even launch grub
[18:25] <bekks> Squall5668: A 320 is about a decade old. Actually its rubbish.
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: have you tried booting to liveCD and installing Grub to the MBR manually?
[18:25] <Squall5668> bekks: Indeed but it's not something you find in a trashcan
[18:25] <grimeton> ActionParsnip: yeah, same results. it works (no errors reported, but then it doesn't boot)
[18:25] <Odd-rationale> clear
[18:25] <grimeton> ActionParsnip: it's like the drives aren't there for the bios
[18:25] <bekks> Squall5668: you find it at the scrap dealer.
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: have you tried chrooting to the installed OS and running fully updating?
[18:26] <MrCleanWithHair> varunendra-- http://pastebin.com/QJe40Yva
[18:26] <grimeton> ActionParsnip: how does that help me booting it?
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: it will update Grub which may help
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: are the drives SATA?
[18:26] <grimeton> ActionParsnip: i updated it several times and it always works ...
[18:26] <grimeton> ActionParsnip: yeah
[18:26] <Squall5668> bekks: It could be a g8
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: have you tried setting IDE compatibility mode in BIOS?
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: what GPU do you use please?
[18:27] <bekks> Squall5668: then he would have mentioned it to be g8, assumably. However, I'm not interested in his issues anymore, let's move on.
[18:27] <grimeton> ActionParsnip: it's practically this problem: http://mergy.org/2013/04/ubuntu-server-on-an-hp-dl320e-gen8/
[18:27] <grimeton> ActionParsnip: difference is i'm using 14.04
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: what GPU are you using?
[18:28] <grimeton> ActionParsnip: eeer what?
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: the video chip.....?
[18:28] <grimeton> how is that involved in booting?
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: graphical processing unit
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: because if there is a driver issue that needs a boot option then it may stop the boot
[18:29] <grimeton> ActionParsnip: before grub is even launched? don't think so
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: then i'd try and get the version of grub updated in chroot
[18:30] <grimeton> ActionParsnip: from 14.04 to what?
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: or use a different boot loader.
[18:30] <grimeton> i think it's more a compatibility issue here
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: no, the version of grub.
[18:31] <grimeton> ActionParsnip: and what grub package should i install to upgrade?
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: grub is a package. It is installed using the deb on the install media, however it will get updated on the online repos and you would pull this down in regular updates
[18:31] <grimeton> ActionParsnip: yeah, but running 14.04 with the latest updates, what package could is use to get a even newer grub version installed?
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: so if you chroot, you can run updates and it may resolve the issue, right
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: thats not ansentance
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> A sentence*
[18:32] <grimeton> ah
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: when you install the grub packages the postinst tells the OS to run: update-grub which may also help
[18:33] <grimeton> ActionParsnip: yeah, tell me something i don't know
[18:33] <grimeton> ActionParsnip: tell me how to upgrade grub
[18:33] <grimeton> ActionParsnip: i'm running 14.04 with the latest updates
[18:33] <grimeton> now point me to an even newer grub package
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: sudo update-grub
[18:34]  * grimeton gives up
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: if you have the latest updates then you have the latest version of grub for Trusty
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: you could also ask in #grub
[18:35] <rvdv> ActionParsnip: update-grub will not install a newer package of grub .... which was the question
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: i'd try the IDE compatibility in BIOS. Could even try Burg.
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> rvdv: yes that's why I wrote 'if you have the latest updates then you have the latest version of grub for Trusty'
[18:37] <grimeton> yeah whatever, thanks for the help...
[18:38] <lamrz> can I use an "installer" usb to perform operations like creating dd images, grep, or installing special editor programmes like most...or do I need a usb drive with a fully installed OS on it?
[18:39] <MrCleanWithHair> varunendra-- http://pastebin.com/QJe40Yva
[18:40] <mojtaba> I have upgraded to 14.04 LTS and viber is not working anymore. Do you know what should I do?
[18:40] <jmadero> anyone have a suggestion for this problem: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/programming-scripting/201704-bash-script-compare-two-folders-copy-non-existant-files.html#post952000
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> lamrz: the installer is a full desktop OS you can use just like an installed OS. You can make disk images as you need.
[18:40] <grimeton> jmadero: rsync
[18:40] <streulma> hello I don't know which system to use. My Macbook Pro 2009 with ssd and 8gb ram. Or my Acer i5. ofcourse with Linux
[18:40] <jmadero> grimeton: can't rsync for this one
[18:41] <jmadero> after I copy/paste I am going to change the files in folder2
[18:41] <grimeton> jmadero: find and - if necessary md5sum
[18:41] <lamrz> ActionParsnip, thank you again! this will save me time.
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: try running the application from terminal, the output may give clues
[18:42] <jmadero> hm - sorry I'll need a bit more than that (my bash scripting isn't great)
[18:42] <ghlh> streulma, The acer should be an easier install if not a UEFI.
[18:42] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: ok, thanks
[18:43] <grimeton> jmadero: cd folder1 && find ./ -type f | while read line; do [[ -f "../folder2/${line}" ]] || cp "${line}" ../folder2/; done
[18:44] <jmadero> grimeton: thanks, will see if I can do something with that
[18:44] <grimeton> jmadero: and for existing files
[18:44] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: It seems it is an script, viber.sh
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: ok, run the script in terminal. See if the output gives any clue
[18:45] <grimeton> jmadero: cd folder1 && find ./ -type f | while read line; do [[ -f "../folder2/${line}" ]] && s1="$(openssl md5 -in "${line}")"; s2="$(openssl md5 -in "../folder2/${line}")"; if [[ "$s1" != "$s2" ]]; then cp "${line}" ../folder2/; fi; done
[18:45] <jmadero> lol grimeton that one looks quite complicated
[18:45] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: /usr/share/viber/Viber.sh               Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[18:46] <jmadero> for just comparing two folders and copying files that don't exist to a second folder
[18:46] <jmadero> :)
[18:46] <grimeton> jmadero: rsync
[18:46] <jmadero> grimeton: I can't rsync I said why
[18:46] <grimeton> jmadero: complicated bash it is then
[18:46] <jmadero> lol
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: tried renaming the config folder for the app, wherever it is in $HOME
[18:51] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: you mean .viber directory?
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: if that is a folder in your home then sure. Rename and launch the application.
[18:53] <bia> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu 14.04 on my laptop (new installation). I have a problem with the USB 2.0 ports. When I use my USB mouse in the 2.0 port it is extremely slow, while in the USB 3.0 ports it works perfectly. Due to a HDMI->DVI adapter, I can however not use the 3.0 ports. Any help appreciated!
[18:54] <grimeton> i wonder if 480mbit/s isn't enough for today mouses
[18:55] <bia> grimeton: hehe, got the same problem if I put the keyboard in a 2.0 port :/
[18:56] <grimeton> bia: check the bios if there is some usb 2.0 setting, maybe ehci offload or something that could be a problem
[18:56] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: It is working now. But what was the problem? ( I am confused.) But the problem is that I lost everything from before. Can I add them to this one?
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: the config was causing the issue. Maybe something updated and the config you had was slightly off.
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: you may be able to copy bits between the configs. Not sure as I dont use the application.
[18:57] <dw1> bia: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1743049.html
[18:57] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: What do you mean by bits?
[18:57] <Zackstack> lol
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: parts of the old profile.....
[18:58] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: ok, thank you very much
[18:59] <Gilrin> Come chill at my new forum! http://chillforum.org
[19:00] <bekks> Gilrin: Stop spamming.
[19:00] <Gilrin> that was not spam.
[19:00] <dw1> bia: "lsusb -t shows the speed of each device, as it is connected."
[19:00] <bazhang> Gilrin, its offtopic here
[19:00] <Gilrin> i have ubuntu
[19:00] <Squall5668> oh it's ok then... heh
[19:00] <bazhang> Gilrin, nice try, dont spam here
[19:00] <Gilrin> lol
[19:00] <Gilrin> alright sorry.
[19:01] <Zackstack> burn!
[19:01] <Zackstack> cool forum tho
[19:01] <Gilrin> thank you.
[19:01] <chronik> hola
[19:01] <Gilrin> yo
[19:01] <Zackstack> hola
[19:02] <Lazik> Hello all, I am writing a driver for a new NIC. The driver part is going all right but the NIC is a dedicated CPU-RAM chip on the motherboard (a freescale e300 PowerQuicc II pro) so I think I need some kind of server code running on that chip. Is that right?
[19:02] <ChogyDan> repeating because I lost connection: how do I upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04?  only 12.10 is being offered
[19:02] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: Now the owner of the viber is root and not my account. do you know why it is like that? and what should I do?
[19:02] <grimeton> ChogyDan: do-release-upgrade -d
[19:02] <chronik> ...
[19:02] <grimeton> ChogyDan: that should offer you 14.04 until 14.04.1 is out
[19:03] <ghlh> ChogyDan, you can do it from the terminal, however the official LT is in July.
[19:03] <chronik> alguna para sexo anal?
[19:03] <bia> dwl: Here is the output of lsusb -t: http://pastebin.com/gEsKR9QX   , sorry I don't know how to interpret it
[19:03] <ChogyDan> grimeton: oh, I see.  It thinks the lts upgrade is still unreleased
[19:03] <Gilrin> wat
[19:03] <ghlh> !ops | chronik
[19:03] <Gilrin> what did you say Chronik.
[19:03] <bia> dw1: Here is the output of lsusb -t: http://pastebin.com/gEsKR9QX   , sorry I don't know how to interpret it
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: do you mean the script that runs it?
[19:04] <dw1> bia: the last number is the speed.. all mind say 480 :/
[19:04] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: no the .Viber directory
[19:04] <dw1> bia: mine*
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: that will update to Utopic
[19:04] <bia> dw1: I also read the forum thread you linked to. I tried the suggested commands at the bottom but I get "tee: /sys/bus/pci/drivers/ehci_hcd/bind File or directory couldn't be found"
[19:04] <chronik> ok ok, solo estaba mirando que los moderadores no estuvieran despistados (8)
[19:04] <grimeton> ActionParsnip: on my box it updated to 14.04
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: did you run viber with sudo by any chance?
[19:04] <mojtaba> no
[19:04] <angelica> varunendra, are you still there?
[19:05] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: no
[19:05] <KGM70> !es | chronik
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> grimeton: -d is the development release, which is currently utopic
[19:05] <dw1> bia: 1.5 is USB 1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB
[19:05] <grimeton> ChogyDan: use -d and see what is offered as update
[19:05] <Lyte101> hey
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: is it the current profile, or the ol one?
[19:06] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: the current profile
[19:06] <Lyte101> any know how to restore default python path to run from /usr/bin/python?
[19:06] <dw1> bia: might be enough for a mouse tho :/
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: could chown it back to your user
[19:06] <bia> dw1: So the kernel thinks the ports are USB 1.0 only
[19:06] <Zelbinian> I would like one day to go by without Shockwave crashing. Just one.
[19:06] <dw1> bia: yep i think thats the issue
[19:06] <ChogyDan> grimeton: it worked, but my computer isn't supported.  It suggests a different distro so I need to sort that out.  Thanks
[19:07] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: Is it secure? Will it have the sudo privileges later?
[19:07] <dw1> bia: or thinks the device is
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> Zelbinian: shockwave is a windows only plugin. Do you mean adobe flash?
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: yes it is secure as only your user will have access...
[19:07] <grimeton> ChogyDan: huh? yeah
[19:07] <Zelbinian> ActionParsnip: Well, Chromium reports the error as "Shockwave Flash has crashed." so... yes?
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: a folder doesnt 'have sudo priveledges'
[19:08] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: I mean the app.
[19:08] <ChogyDan> grimeton: it's a graphics/unity issue.  I want xubuntu regardless, so whatevs  :)
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: your user has sudo priveledges, not the viber app
[19:08] <dw1> bia: "never saw a mouse that needed more speed than 1.1" http://superuser.com/questions/381768/a-mouse-connected-to-a-usb-1-port-vs-usb-2-0-port
[19:09] <dw1> bia: 1.1 is 12M
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> Zelbinian: what is the output of: lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[19:09] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: Sorry for asking naive questions. (newbie)
[19:09] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: Thansk
[19:09] <mojtaba> Thanks*
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> Zelbinian: use a pastebin to make a link, so you don't spam the channel
[19:09] <Radon_3> Hi guys, I am a totaly idiot and asshole when it comes to working with high level stuff like linux and ubuntu... but I have just bought a DVD writer, works amazingly well in ubuntu, I am so happy, but is there a way for me to verrify the data on the disk with the iso file in a byte by byte style?
[19:09] <dw1> bia: " a standard usb mouse will not lose performance on USB1.0"
[19:09] <dw1> bia: is it a special gaming mouse?
[19:09] <angelica> Hi, does anyone know how to fix a wifi connection that keeps cutting in and out? I am on ubuntu 14.4 connecting through an usb adapter
[19:09] <hex`> How can I do a 'ls -f' (because of the directory to list if huge, so -f is mandatory) but with the found file sizes? I tried ls -lahf and it didn't return the size...
[19:10] <Zelbinian> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/tzW3W6Ji
[19:10] <Radon_3> dw1: hi dw1, fancy seeing you around man... :)
[19:10] <bia> dw1: Logitech MX518, But I also have the problem with the wireless keyboard if I put it in the 2.0 port, and the keyboard is not a gaming keyboard.
[19:10] <dw1> Radon_3: :o
[19:11] <Radon_3> does any one know how I can verify the data on the disk?
[19:11] <Radon_3> in Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[19:11] <bia> dw1: I also have Ubuntu 14.04 on a desktop and using the same exact mouse it works perfectly fine.
[19:12] <Radon_3> dw1: any idea?
[19:12] <Radon_3> please?
[19:13] <dw1> Radon_3: maybe md5sum /dev/your-cd-drive vs md5sum *.iso
[19:13] <dw1> Radon_3: just a guess
[19:14] <Radon_3> dw1: can I md5sum a whole drive? that's so cool...
[19:14] <dw1> Radon_3: no clue :p
[19:14] <grimeton> Radon_3: openssl md5 -in /dev/sda
[19:15] <pavlos> Radon_3, md5sum checks a file, not a drive
[19:15] <grimeton> pavlos: as _EVERYTHING_ in linux is a file
[19:15] <grimeton> ...
[19:16] <Radon_3> grimeton: that command you gave me was a good one, but it says that "unknown option '-in'"
[19:17] <Radon_3> :(
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Zelbinian: Saucy is EOL next month, just so you know.
[19:17] <angelica> Hi, does anyone know how to fix a wifi connection that keeps cutting in and out? I am on ubuntu 14.4 connecting through an usb adapter
[19:17] <bia> dw1: Is there anything more I can do? Like get some special drivers or something?
[19:17] <grimeton> Radon_3: yeah, for whatever reason openssl doesn't accept in here: cat /dev/sda | openssl md5
[19:17] <Radon_3> I found this http://www.g-loaded.eu/2006/10/07/verify-a-burned-cddvd-image-on-linux/ fokls
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Zelbinian: uninstall flashplugin-installer and enabke the partner repo, then install adobe-flashplugin
[19:18] <Zackstack> can someone help me get hexchat to minimize to tray 14.04
[19:18] <Zelbinian> ActionParsnip: I know, last time I tried to upgrade it said I didn't have enough disk space. And then I downloaded 40GB of things. *shrug*
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> angelica: what wifi chip?
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> Zackstack: try alltray :-)
[19:18] <dw1> bia: keep digging... http://google.com/search?q=ubuntu+usb+mouse+slow
[19:18] <grimeton> Radon_3: openssl md5 /dev/sda
[19:18] <grimeton> Radon_3: should work too
[19:19] <angelica> ActionParsnip: this one: http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00DTZYHX4/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[19:19] <Radon_3> grimeton: You are awesome man, cat /dev/sr0 | openssl sha512 is working :)
[19:19] <Zackstack> ok
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> angelica: doesnt tell us enough
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> angelica: if you run: sudo lshw -C network ,what is the wifi chip?
[19:21] <angelica> ActionParsnip: please let me know whar info you need and how to find it
[19:21] <bia> dw1: If I recall correctly it worked perfectly during the installation and possible on the first boot. I think it stopped working after a reboot. So might this be a kernel problem and can I start ubuntu with an older kernel?
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> angelica: i just told you. The command i gave will tell you the chip
[19:21] <dw1> bia: worth a shot
[19:22] <sharperguy> is it possible to setup pulseaudio to route all audio out to two different devices?
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> angelica: so Ive already done what tou just requested.....
[19:22] <Radon_3> grimeton: I owe you like crazy... big time... thanks man...like crazy :) Linux is King
[19:22] <Radon_3> oh, data verified : both sha512sums are equal
[19:23] <angelica> ActionParsnip: sorry, I must have lost connection when you sent it. But here is the info: ActionParsnip:
[19:24] <angelica> oops, here ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7609480/
[19:24] <ChogyDan> sharperguy: I'm sure the various guides out there would work on Ubuntu as well
[19:25] <sharperguy> ChogyDan: thanks
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> angelica: run: echo "options rtl8192cu swenc=1" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/rtl8192cu.conf
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> angelica: then reboot to test
[19:27] <angelica> ActionParsnip: it says: echo "options rtl8192cu swenc=1" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/rtl8192cu.conf
[19:27] <angelica> jesus f... one sec...
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> angelica: what says it? Thats what i wrote.....
[19:28] <angelica> ActionParsnip: options rtl8192cu swenc=1
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> angelica: yesbthats tee. It output to stdout as well as the file. Reboot to test
[19:29] <angelica> ActionParsnip: Do I just reboot now? I dont understand your last message
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> angelica: yes reboot the system.
[19:30] <angelica> ok, brb
[19:30] <angelica> thanks!
[19:30] <simone233> hi
[19:32] <angelica> I cant get over the speed of this OS... is amazing!
[19:33] <OerHeks> angelica, have fun
[19:33] <angelica> ActionParsnip: the good news is I still have internet connection... lets see if it still cuts in and out
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> angelica: cool
[19:34] <angelica> OerHeks: mixed feelings, it is fun and at the same time frustrating... it makes me feel so damn dumb lol
[19:34] <mlabbe> Hello. I would like to put my Ubuntu box to sleep with a script from the commandline.  For long-winded reasons, I need to be able to do this as non-root.  How do I do this as a normal user?
[19:35] <mojtaba> Does anybody know how can I import my old database in viber to the newly installed one?
[19:38] <Sirrandom> hello
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> angelica: its just a new OS for you. You'll learn as you use it.
[19:39] <angelica> ActionParsnip: I dont know what you did, but whatever it was, it worked!!! thank you so much!!!
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> angelica: its an option to load the module with. The file makes the module always load with that extra option to do software decoding. Can help in some cases.
[19:43] <ghlh> mlabbe, Would a sleep command from the cli be fine?
[19:43] <angelica> ActionParsnip: the module = the wifi device? what is tee?
[19:43] <JoshDreamland> hi all; my IBus tray icon displays the gtk-missing-icon image instead of the little keyboard or little cog icons
[19:43] <JoshDreamland> is there a way I can switch it to some dark icon theme?
[19:44] <JoshDreamland> or at least get it to not display a red "no" sign in my tray? :P
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> angelica: the module is the kernel driver that makes it work
[19:44] <JoshDreamland> it's mildly alarming
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> angelica: tee is a shell command to add to a text file
[19:46] <angelica> ActionParsnip: the kernel is the same as a driver on windows?
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> JoshDreamland: isnt there an option to inherit other themes in the theme file? I seem to remember that being a thing
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> angelica: no, the kernel is the core of the OS
[19:48] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: I am running viber and with top command I see that root is running the viber. Do you know what should I do? I have change the directory privileges with chown -R
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> angelica: your system loads the rtl8192cu module and then the kernel can talk to the hardware. The Linux kernel is modular so things can be loaded and unloaded as needed
[19:48] <angelica> ActionParsnip: I guess I have some reading to do... do you recommend some sort of super basic manual for definitively non computer savvy mortals like me?
[19:48] <mlabbe> ghlh: what do you mean by sleep command? you mean like bash sleep?
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> !manual | angelica
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: maybe it has to run as root... If you run: whoami ,does it say 'root'?
[19:49] <JoshDreamland> I'm not seeing much under the options list, ActionParsnip
[19:49] <ghlh> mlabbe, from the terminal you can run a command to sleep, from what I have seen this command has alternatives per user hardware.
[19:50] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: no
[19:50] <JoshDreamland> there's an option to show the tray icon, but that's about it
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> JoshDreamland: its in the guts of the theme pack, nothing to do with any options
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> JoshDreamland: you could contact the theme author
[19:51] <JoshDreamland> I'm not even sure what theme I'm using
[19:51] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: when I run viber from dash, it runs too process, one under my account name, and the other one with root. When I close viber, the root one is still running!
[19:52] <angelica> ubottu: thanks!
[19:52] <angelica> ActionParsnip: thank you so much for your time and your help
[19:52] <angelica> hold on... it is modular, so there are modules that might not work... maybe thats why I cant connect my ipod
[19:52] <angelica> well, I can connect it but it doesnt appear connected, doesnt authomatically mount?
[19:52] <angelica> agrrrr it is happening again, the internet cuts out!
[19:52] <JoshDreamland> aha
[19:53] <mlabbe> ghlh: okay, what should I do?
[19:53] <JoshDreamland> you got it, ActionParsnip
[19:53] <ghlh> mlabbe, I just asked if just a command from the terminal to sleep is adequate.
[19:53] <JoshDreamland> thanks!
[19:54] <angelica> ActionParsnip: what can I do if the wifi still cuts out? :S
[19:55] <mlabbe> ghlh: yes
[19:56] <angelica> ActionParsnip: I think it cut out when I plugged my ipod in
[19:56] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: when I run viber from dash, it runs too process, one under my account name, and the other one with root. When I close viber, the root one is still running!
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> angelica: id suggest you report a bug in that case
[19:56] <sun_> Hello
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: weird
[19:56] <sun_> there
[19:57] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: Is it a security problem?
[19:57] <ghlh> mlabbe, Cool, probably a good start, I have not messes with this myself, I was just wondering if you actually needed a script. http://askubuntu.com/questions/1792/how-can-i-suspend-hibernate-from-command-line
[19:57] <ghlh> messed*
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: sounds like a weird app. Have you contacted viber to query it?
[19:58] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: I will do that
[19:58] <mlabbe> ghlh: yeah, I saw that stuff. doesn't it need root?
[19:58] <angelica> ActionParsnip: I will, thanks again
[19:59] <ghlh> mlabbe, Not to sleep as far as I know, but as I said not an area I have messed with.
[20:01] <ghlh> mlabbe, I have to reboot to ubuntu I will be right back if I can actually help.
[20:01] <nikomx> Hi
[20:02] <Charlie> Yo
[20:04] <mlabbe> ghlh: thanks, I am going to look into it as soon as I knock out another bug
[20:04] <zykotick9> mlabbe: pm-suspend would need sudo (aka root access) by default
[20:05] <joseluis64> Hello, I can't make the gtk applications to show its menubars in plasma-widget-menubar
[20:05] <joseluis64> I could before
[20:06] <mlabbe> zykotick9: bummer. is there some permission I could give a standard user to do this?   If you want to know why, it is because I am using a buildbot (remote build server) to wake and put a build slave to sleep to save power/heat.  The buildbot user just cannot be root.
[20:07] <zykotick9> mlabbe: it would be possible to configure sudo to NOT require a password for the specific pm-suspend command - but don't ask me how ;)  best of luck.
[20:08] <mlabbe> zykotick9: ah, cool, I don't think that would be too hard.  thanks!
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> mlabbe, A little research confirms that darn root need, sorry for any misinformation. ;)
[20:09] <mlabbe> wilee-nilee: np.
[20:09] <mlabbe> thanks for help
[20:17] <basheba> why is my system and flash sound so jacked up on ubuntu 13.04 Persice
[20:18] <basheba> RARING rather, sorry
[20:20] <bekks> !raring | basheba
[20:21] <basheba> oh mannn ok thanks
[20:22] <maxvi> hi everyone! how can I call switcher (like alt+tab) with touchpad in ubuntu 14.04
[20:23] <SchrodingersScat> maxvi: might be something in compiz, like using the top of the screen to activate a click and drag through open windows
[20:23] <Exillia> hi peeps; my ubuntu install got interrupted mid upgrade and when i do sudo dpkg --configure -a, it'll start doing all the necessary. unfortunately this includes restarting cups at some point which gets stuck
[20:23] <Exillia> any ideas?
[20:24] <maxvi> SchrodingersScat: I've do it by in default configuration but I cannot reproduce it again ((
[20:24] <Exillia> last i checked, i didnt even own a printer ='P
[20:25] <theperfectpunk> I just upgraded the kernel module
[20:25] <theperfectpunk> Display went off as usual
[20:26] <theperfectpunk> Tried installing properietary drivers
[20:26] <theperfectpunk> Sudo service gdm stop didn't work
[20:26] <theperfectpunk> Hung up at
[20:27] <theperfectpunk> Resolving server state
[20:27] <theperfectpunk> Using ubuntu 14
[20:28] <bekks> Which Ubuntu 14?
[20:28] <theperfectpunk> Kernel 12
[20:28] <bekks> Which 12?
[20:28] <theperfectpunk> 29
[20:28] <bekks> Can you state full versions please?
[20:28] <bekks> "29" is not a known version.
[20:28] <theperfectpunk> 3.13.0-29-generic
[20:28] <theperfectpunk> Ubuntu 14
[20:28] <theperfectpunk> 14.04 LTS
[20:28] <theperfectpunk> GNOME
[20:29] <tozen> theperfectpunk: sudo service lightdm stop ??
[20:29] <theperfectpunk> No gdm
[20:29] <theperfectpunk> M running gnome
[20:29] <tozen> ough..gnome
[20:29] <theperfectpunk> Trying to install nvidia properietary drivers
[20:30] <theperfectpunk> U guys encountered it?
[20:31] <theperfectpunk> Here's what i dis
[20:31] <theperfectpunk> Did
[20:31] <theperfectpunk> booted ubuntu
[20:31] <theperfectpunk> Went to tty1
[20:31] <theperfectpunk> Logged in
[20:31] <theperfectpunk> Sudo service gdm stop
[20:32] <ChogyDan> theperfectpunk: as was alluded to, gdm is gone.  It is lightdm now
[20:32] <theperfectpunk> And den restoring resolver state...
[20:32] <theperfectpunk> Lemme check wid lightdm
[20:32] <zykotick9> theperfectpunk: does gdm tab complete?  or is it gdm3?
[20:33] <theperfectpunk> I used it wid previous kernels
[20:33] <theperfectpunk> Sudo service gdm stop worked fine
[20:33] <Ben64> theperfectpunk: how are you installing nvidia drivers
[20:34] <zykotick9> theperfectpunk: BTW, if you've added propritary graphics drivers, you either would need to reboot, or modprobe the approprate modules.
[20:34] <theperfectpunk> I need to stop the x server
[20:34] <newbie> hey
[20:34] <theperfectpunk> Ben64: stop the x server -> run bimary
[20:34] <theperfectpunk> Binary drivers
[20:34] <Ben64> theperfectpunk: that method is not supported here
[20:35] <k1l_> theperfectpunk: suod lightdm stop
[20:35] <theperfectpunk> I know but
[20:35] <k1l_> *sudo
[20:35] <theperfectpunk> Sudo service gdm stop is
[20:35] <_1_Timmy> /j #defocus
[20:35] <zykotick9> theperfectpunk: ya, using the nvidia.com driver, is a BAD idea.  <- it's a fast way to break your system.
[20:35] <Guest29522> i have to mount windows partition from ubuntu but it said windows partition is in unsafe mode i cannot open windows i dont know why. Is there something i can do for dealing with unsafe mode?
[20:35] <Ben64> theperfectpunk: but what? using the repository is supported, and doesn't break every kernel update
[20:35] <Ben64> Guest29522: boot back into windows, and run chkdsk twice
[20:36] <Guest29522> problem is i cannot boot windows it stucked
[20:36] <k1l_> theperfectpunk: gdm is no more. its lightdm since some time in ubuntu
[20:36] <Ben64> Guest29522: maybe ask in ##windows then?
[20:36] <theperfectpunk> Just don't wanna add too many repo
[20:36] <theperfectpunk> I installed gdm
[20:36] <theperfectpunk> M on gnome
[20:36] <Ben64> nvidia is in the default repositories
[20:36] <theperfectpunk> Gnome flavour of ubuntu
[20:37] <djural> theperfectpunk: I recently tried ubuntu gnome remix and after an update gdm refused to work
[20:37] <theperfectpunk> Nvidia drivers are ib xorg edgers
[20:37] <theperfectpunk> In
[20:37] <djural> theperfectpunk: I would also suggest to stick with lightdm
[20:37] <theperfectpunk> Ppa repo
[20:37] <k1l_> theperfectpunk: so there are nvidia and amd drivers in the ubuntu repo. no need for manual installing
[20:37] <Ben64> theperfectpunk: they are there as well, but they are most definitely in the default ubuntu repositories
[20:37] <djural> theperfectpunk: yep either xorg edgers or oibaf
[20:37] <theperfectpunk> Open source drivers aren't that good
[20:37] <djural> theperfectpunk: https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/graphics-drivers/
[20:37] <theperfectpunk> Especially nvodia
[20:38] <Ben64> theperfectpunk: the binary drivers are in the default ubuntu repositories...
[20:38]  * zykotick9 thinks the nouveau free drive is quite good - but perhaps not for gaming...
[20:38] <theperfectpunk> Ben64
[20:38] <Ben64> theperfectpunk
[20:39] <theperfectpunk> Do u know a boot parameter that will allow me not to start x sercer?
[20:39] <theperfectpunk> Server
[20:39] <theperfectpunk> At boot
[20:39] <zykotick9> !text | theperfectpunk
[20:39] <Ben64> theperfectpunk: you should stop doing this and install nvidia the normal way
[20:39] <theperfectpunk> The performance is worse
[20:39] <zykotick9> theperfectpunk: be aware, you're breaking your system by installing that driver!!! you have been warned.
[20:39] <Ben64> no it isn't
[20:39] <theperfectpunk> I play dota 2 on steam
[20:40] <Ben64> its the same driver, you need to understand this
[20:40] <theperfectpunk> significant drop in frame ratea
[20:40] <theperfectpunk> M talking about noveau
[20:40] <k1l_> theperfectpunk: nvidia prop. driver is in the repo. install nvidia-current
[20:40] <djural> theperfectpunk: Ben64 is right ubuntu ships with noveau (open source) by default _and_ has the proprietary drivers in its repo
[20:40] <Ben64> the nvidia binary driver is in the repositories. i don't know why i have to say this so much
[20:41] <zykotick9> djural: nouveau is more then "open source" it's free!  ati can't say that.
[20:41] <djural> theperfectpunk: the biggest advantage is that packagers actually test the driver before shipping
[20:41] <Zenyhooubbit> hello! excuse me what's the command for completely uninstall a program on ubuntu 12.04?I want to delete also the program settings
[20:41] <djural> theperfectpunk: therefore never install drivers from manufacturers websites
[20:41] <djural> zykotick9: I'm sorry ;)
[20:41] <k1l_> Zenyhooubbit: apt-get purge package
[20:41] <Ben64> Zenyhooubbit: sudo apt-get purge <package>
[20:42] <theperfectpunk> Ok ben64
[20:42] <Zenyhooubbit> good thank you k1l and ben64 :)
[20:42] <theperfectpunk> Appending text isnt working
[20:42] <theperfectpunk> Any ideas
[20:42] <Ben64> theperfectpunk: install the nvidia driver from the ubuntu repositores and not have to deal with this every kernel update?
[20:43] <Exillia> for those wondering; my problem is fixed
[20:43] <zykotick9> theperfectpunk: i've pasted debian's "why nvidia installer sucks" factoid to http://paste.ubuntu.com/7609787/ it applies to ubuntu as well
[20:43] <theperfectpunk> But for now i need to boot in my pc
[20:43] <Exillia> simply killed the cups start process => upgrade continues and simply nuked cups from orbit after upgrade finished
[20:43] <vilambit> why does mplayer top playing video but continue playing audio when i use remote pulse audio??
[20:43] <theperfectpunk> Without x server
[20:43] <vilambit> *stop
[20:43] <djural> theperfectpunk: you use 14.04 right?
[20:43] <theperfectpunk> I'll do what u said
[20:43] <theperfectpunk> Yeah
[20:44] <theperfectpunk> how to boot in text mode with no x server
[20:44] <djural> theperfectpunk: like someone mentioned before you need to get to the grub boot entry selection
[20:45] <djural> theperfectpunk: for grub2 you should hold down shift while booting
[20:45] <Scriptonaut> hey guys, I'm getting kubuntu, wondering what version I should get
[20:45] <Scriptonaut> I like stability
[20:45] <djural> theperfectpunk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode
[20:45] <Asterisks> latest?
[20:45] <djural> heres the link
[20:45] <Scriptonaut> in my experience, ubuntu's latest versions are buggy as hell
[20:45] <Scriptonaut> is 14.04 pretty good
[20:46] <djural> Scriptonaut: 14.04 is awesome (I am using it as my daily driver)
[20:46] <Scriptonaut> cool, I'll get it then. 64-bit I assume?
[20:46] <jack-> trusty rules.
[20:46] <djural> theperfectpunk: after getting to the grub selection you press 'e' to edit it
[20:46] <theperfectpunk> Yeah then
[20:47] <theperfectpunk> It's set params..
[20:47] <djural> theperfectpunk: the param should be "text"
[20:47] <juanjo> ola
[20:47] <theperfectpunk> Instead of ubuntu?
[20:48] <djural> theperfectpunk: no its in the kernel line
[20:48] <juanjo> alguien español
[20:48] <djural> theperfectpunk: append it
[20:48] <djural> theperfectpunk: but wait
[20:48] <theperfectpunk> I tried simply placing text below set params
[20:48] <theperfectpunk> Didn't work
[20:48] <djural> theperfectpunk: so whats your problem _exactly_?
[20:48] <wilee-nilee> !es | juanjo
[20:48] <djural> theperfectpunk: you installed ubuntu 14.04 -> Unity or Gnome?
[20:49] <theperfectpunk> Gnome
[20:49] <theperfectpunk> Can't start the x sercer
[20:49] <theperfectpunk> have to install driver
[20:49] <wilee-nilee> theperfectpunk, This the gnome shell release?
[20:49] <theperfectpunk> Cant stop gnome x server frm terminal
[20:49] <djural> theperfectpunk: yes, but do you see the plymouth splash screen?
[20:49] <theperfectpunk> The paw?
[20:50] <djural> theperfectpunk: yep
[20:50] <theperfectpunk> Three dots
[20:50] <theperfectpunk> Yeah
[20:50] <djural> theperfectpunk: you should switch to a different tty?
[20:50] <theperfectpunk> In low res
[20:50] <theperfectpunk> Yeah i can
[20:50] <theperfectpunk> Switched to tty1
[20:50] <djural> theperfectpunk: mhm
[20:50] <djural> theperfectpunk: sou you can install the driver?
[20:50] <theperfectpunk> But as soon as i type
[20:50] <theperfectpunk> Sudo service gdm stop
[20:51] <theperfectpunk> It says restoring resolver state
[20:51] <djural> theperfectpunk: forget about the gdm
[20:51] <theperfectpunk> In a a good looking terminal
[20:51] <djural> theperfectpunk: so how did you install the nvidia driver?
[20:51] <theperfectpunk> sudo
[20:51] <theperfectpunk> ./nvidiafile.run
[20:51] <djural> dear god :D
[20:52] <theperfectpunk> U want me to add repo now?
[20:52] <theperfectpunk> Can't remember it
[20:52] <djural> well we need to remove the old stuff
[20:52] <djural> god knows how
[20:52] <djural> well the best way to go is:
[20:52] <wilee-nilee> theperfectpunk, Had you used the drivers in the ubuntu repos, proprietary drivers are not suggested here.
[20:53] <theperfectpunk> I just want to know how to start ubuntu with no x server
[20:53] <djural> it wont help you
[20:53] <theperfectpunk> This is relevent in this irc server i think
[20:53] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: ahhh, not really a proprietary driver issue, the one in ubuntu repo is propritary as well.  it's the nvidia.com installer that is the issue.
[20:53] <theperfectpunk> Djural
[20:53] <theperfectpunk> I've tried it
[20:53] <theperfectpunk> Works everytime
[20:54] <theperfectpunk> Please any param to switch to text mode?
[20:54] <wilee-nilee> theperfectpunk, You can set the no X in /etc/default/grub and thanks for the last comment to me. Anyway carry on don't mean to interrupt. ;)
[20:55] <djural> theperfectpunk: yeah, see http://askubuntu.com/questions/16371/how-do-i-disable-x-at-boot-time-so-that-the-system-boots-in-text-mode
[20:55] <theperfectpunk> Lemme try it put
[20:55] <theperfectpunk> Oit
[20:55] <djural> theperfectpunk: change in /etc/default/grub
[20:55] <theperfectpunk> Out
[20:55] <djural> to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text"
[20:56] <djural> dont forget sudo update-grub
[20:56] <jcstarken> cups questions I have shared my printer from ubuntu 12.04 and my mac sees it but when I try to print from mac it says auth needed what did I miss in the setup thank you
[20:58] <hellyeah> hey
[20:59] <hellyeah> ubuntu was just frozen
[20:59] <hellyeah> i dont know why i have to shut down my computer manually and start again
[20:59] <theperfectpunk> The driver started to install
[21:00] <theperfectpunk> Dunno why but hate doing it da easy way
[21:00] <theperfectpunk> Ben64
[21:00] <theperfectpunk> Djural
[21:00] <theperfectpunk> A warning
[21:01] <theperfectpunk> Failed to restore some backed up files/symlinks
[21:01] <theperfectpunk>  And or theur attributes
[21:01] <theperfectpunk> Hope it works
[21:02] <zykotick9> theperfectpunk seriously, you've made a bad choice, and it's NOT supported in #ubuntu
[21:02] <djural> theperfectpunk: yep, if you _must_ use recent nvidia prop drivers you atleast ppa's (xorg-edgers or oibaf)
[21:03] <djural> theperfectpunk: those are atleast packaged properly and wont annihilate your system
[21:03] <theperfectpunk> To tell the truth they don't always provide thr latrdt drivrrs
[21:03] <theperfectpunk> MAN IT WORKED
[21:04] <hellyeah> another question
[21:04] <djural> linus be praised
[21:04] <theperfectpunk> M BACK ON GDM xD
[21:04] <zykotick9> theperfectpunk: today, yes.  but just wait until a kernel update...
[21:04] <djural> ans hes gone :D
[21:04] <hellyeah> i cannot boot windows but i have to mount windows partition got message unsafe mode is there way to handle unsafe more from ubuntu?
[21:06] <theperfectpunk> Now that i'vr found a solid way to closr the x server
[21:06] <theperfectpunk> I feel less likely to add those repo's
[21:06] <theperfectpunk> They and the prop drivers are da
[21:07] <theperfectpunk> Plus da repo are outdated
[21:07] <theperfectpunk> they never hav the latest drivee
[21:07] <cmdswitch> hellyeah: have you tried? sudo mkdir /media/windows; sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/windows -o force
[21:08] <cmdswitch> where sda1 is your windows drive
[21:08] <hellyeah> let me check cmdswitch
[21:09] <hellyeah> cmdswitch:  this is what i got The disk contains an unclean file system (0, 0). Metadata kept in Windows cache, refused to mount. Failed to mount '/dev/sda1': Operation not permitted The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume read-only with the 'ro' mount option.
[21:10] <eryd> REGAIN lamrz n3vKrt:Y?4Fq05=
[21:10] <DrGrov> Hello everyone
[21:10] <cmdswitch> hellyeah: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/windows -ro force
[21:11] <DrGrov> Quick question, how can I enabled SSD trim in 13.10 64-bit? Can not seem to do it right at all. Having problems understanding how to do it correctly.
[21:12] <zykotick9> DrGrov: it's actually better, NOT to enable trim - and instead run fstrim on an occassional basis.
[21:13] <gstaniak> hi
[21:14] <hellyeah> cmdswitch:  can you give me last command again?
[21:14] <DrGrov> zykotick9: Ah, do tell me more about that how to do it correctly then :)
[21:14] <gstaniak> in 14.04, can i set the session type for a user and have it start automatically, without choosing it on the login manager screen?
[21:14] <cmdswitch> hellyeah: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/windows -ro force
[21:14] <garbage_> hey guys.. got a problem: my laptop running 14.04 wont suspend on lid close. /proc/acpi/button/lid/LID/state says its closed when i close it, and i have the settings set to "suspend" on lid close in the settings app. been googling for a while now and nothing worked so far :/
[21:15] <hellyeah> cmdswitch:  worked
[21:15] <cmdswitch> hellyeah: cool
[21:15] <zykotick9> DrGrov: DrGrov verify you have fstrim, if not it's in util-linux i believe.  you just run it, every couple of days / once a week type thing.  quite simple.
[21:16] <basheba> garbage_, can you create another power profile in the settings?  I ask b/c Kubuntu allows you to set your own power profile
[21:16] <zykotick9> DrGrov: be aware, additional steps are required, you have happen to be using encrypted-LVM.
[21:16] <zykotick9> s/you have/if you have/
[21:16] <garbage_> i don't think so.. there's ones for plugged in/not plugged in, tried both with same results basheba
[21:17] <DrGrov> zykotick9: I have to have encrypted-LVM?
[21:17] <DrGrov> zykotick9: But I reckon I have not used encrypted-LVM when I installed 13.10. How can I verify that before I get started?
[21:18] <basheba> are you on arch linux garbage_ ?
[21:19] <garbage_> ubuntu 14.04
[21:19] <zykotick9> DrGrov: sorry, off the top of my head, i forget what you need to do (i did it myself a little while ago)
[21:19] <DrGrov> zykotick9: Ok, no worries. Let me know if you find that missing information there sometime, hopefully sooner rather than later :)
[21:19] <basheba> take a look at this garbage_ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2068464
[21:22] <zykotick9> DrGrov: i found my notes, pasted to http://paste.debian.net/103893/
[21:23] <DrGrov> zykotick9: Ah, thanks. Will look into that right away.
[21:23] <garbage_> basheba, that thread didnt really help
[21:23] <garbage_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7609942/
[21:24] <garbage_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7609946/
[21:24] <garbage_> so it's detecting it...
[21:24] <DrGrov> zykotick9: So your notes have it sorted out. I can not read it though completely.
[21:25] <redlance> How can I find out if I set my drive up with LVM?
[21:25] <bekks> redlance: Just run: sudo lvdisplay -C
[21:25] <DrGrov> zykotick9: Or let me put it this way. Your notes are too cleverly made :)
[21:27] <redlance> bekks, Okay, thanks.  It shows my root partition in the list, I assume that means my root is part of an LV?
[21:27] <zykotick9> DrGrov: they were made, prior to actually trying it - but they worked fine ;)
[21:27] <john_24> is it possible to use a different dhcp-server with a bridged interface?
[21:27] <bekks> redlance: Yes, check the output of "mount" as well. If it shows filesystems on "/dev/mapper/..." you are using LVM.
[21:27] <DrGrov> zykotick9: But can you do a more step-by-step explanation so I get it? ;)
[21:29] <redlance> bekks, Okay, thanks again.  This is on my media server, and I'm running out of room for my movies.  What do you think would be the best way to add another physical drive for more capacity?  I'd love to be able to make the new drive and the old drive both show up as one.
[21:30] <humanuser> Hey, I've Got a problem with a LaTeX package: When I compile it says: LaTeX Error: File `mathdesign.sty' not found
[21:30] <zykotick9> DrGrov: perhaps the simplified http://paste.debian.net/103894/ will help.
[21:30] <planetmaker> humanuser, then... install that style file?
[21:31] <DrGrov> zykotick9: Ah yes, that makes it so much clearer. How do I run the fstrim then?
[21:31] <DrGrov> zykotick9: Or at least check if I have an encrypted LVM or not :)
[21:31] <garbage_> redlance, RAID 0 ?
[21:31] <humanuser> planetmaker, smart ;) Where can I get it from? And which one is the standard
[21:31] <garbage_> also anyone know anything about why my laptop wont suspend ;/
[21:32] <redlance> garbage_, I thought about RAID, in software but maybe LVM would be easier/better?
[21:32] <zykotick9> DrGrov: "sudo fstrim /" if you're / is on the SSD, if /home is as well, then "sudo fstrim /home" as well.
[21:32] <gruzzli> Glitch?
[21:32] <garbage_> i dont know much about lvm redlance , sorry
[21:32] <redlance> garbage_, Okay, thanks anyway.
[21:33] <DrGrov> zykotick9: Ok, and just add those lines in the correct files then as you described?
[21:34] <DrGrov> zykotick9: Yes, my / is only on the 120GB SSD and /home is on my 1TB separate drive.
[21:34] <phirex> My laptop ran out of battery today, and since then my harddrive failed to mount. so i am now on a live USB. trying to fix it.. i tried imaging it with clonezilla but that didnt work, does anyone have any idea what i should try doing?
[21:35] <jcstarken> turned samba off still having the auth issue
[21:35] <zykotick9> DrGrov: then just do the / ;)  it'll tell you after running how much it's trimmed.  probably, once a week would be enough in most cases.  FYI, using this method, rather then adding trim as a file system option, maximises speed.
[21:35] <DrGrov> zykotick9: Ok, I ran sudo fstrim / and now it seems to be working.
[21:35] <redlance> phirex, Can you look into the BIOS screen and make sure the drive shows up in there?
[21:35] <phirex> uhmmm it should be there,.. i can see it here
[21:36] <planetmaker> humanuser, I don't know the package, but http://www.ctan.org/ might have it :)
[21:36] <DrGrov> zykotick9: I have not trimmed it after middle/end of December when I got the new computer LOL
[21:36] <DrGrov> zykotick9: No wonder it takes time to do it ;)
[21:36] <phirex> but when i click it i get "Error mounting /dev/sda1 at /media/ubuntu/4602e446-d321-40f8-8f0e-19cd8da0a6d2"
[21:37] <trism> humanuser: looks like it is in texlive-fonts-extra
[21:37] <DrGrov> zykotick9: Did not show any output of what it trimmed :/
[21:37] <planetmaker> also... http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-949293.html
[21:39] <zykotick9> DrGrov: oh, sorry, ya you need to use "fstrim -v /" to get the output, my bad.
[21:39] <redlance> phirex, Ok, can you open the disks tool and see how it shows up in there?  See if it thinks it has a faile system.
[21:39] <DrGrov> zykotick9: Ok, I see. I can not redo it now anymore to see how much it actually trimmed? :(
[21:40] <redlance> phirex, faile = file
[21:40] <DrGrov> zykotick9: No worries, no need to apologize :)
[21:40] <cmdswitch> ls
[21:40] <raj> how do I make RtAlt not a compose key anymore? LtAlt+f gives me ^[f ... RtAlt+f just gives me f
[21:41] <skinux> I'm curious, how does Ubuntu Software Center work? Is it technically a CVS or Git client??
[21:41] <zykotick9> DrGrov: an example http://paste.debian.net/103895/
[21:41] <phirex> redlance: where is it suppose to show? Partition type is Linux (bootable) - Contents: Ext4 version 1.0 - not mounted
[21:43] <zykotick9> skinux: neither, it is a front end to apt (with some propritary ubuntu stuff added)
[21:43] <redlance> phirex, Okay, that tells me that it thinks it has a EXT4 filesystem, which is good.  What does it say if you try to mount it using the disks tool?
[21:44] <phirex> redlance: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7610037/
[21:44] <skinux> I've thought a few times about writing a program that would scour the web for ubuntu/debian packages and tarballs of things that aren't in repository. It would likely be a tedious task, though.
[21:44] <DrGrov> zykotick9: Ok, thank you showing an example.
[21:45] <humanuser> planetmaker, thx for the link
[21:46] <humanuser> trism, Thanks! That's what I searched for. It worked.
[21:46] <zykotick9> skinux: fyi, your idea would NOT work out well... you'd get crazy broken dependencies
[21:46] <redlance> phirex, Hmmm, I don't suppose you have another machine that you could try mounting this drive in?
[21:47] <jcstarken> best way to share a printer from ubuntu to network
[21:47] <ubnoobtu> heyall. I am having a issue. If someone could help, thatd be neat. I recently begun using ubuntu, but I messed somewhere
[21:47] <zykotick9> ubnoobtu: providing details often helps
[21:48] <zykotick9> ubnoobtu: all on one line, and don't include my nickname in it
[21:48] <phirex> redlance: Well not really, its a dell laptop and i dont have any cables to try and connect it externally to another laptop or something.
[21:49] <ubnoobtu> Okay, Just making sure I was heard. This is my problem. I am using ubuntu 12.04, Its a fresh install. I want to connect my wireless card to it, but the card doesnt come with any linux drivers.
[21:49] <phirex> redlance: but why would this machine not be able to mount it..?
[21:49] <ubnoobtu> So how do I get the card turned on?
[21:49] <redlance> phirex, I was thinking about ruling out any hardware problems.
[21:50] <zykotick9> ubnoobtu: find out what card it is "lspci | grep -i net" _might_ show you.  AND, you may find using 14.04 your card works OOTB.
[21:50] <phirex> redlance: I see, well no thats not an option but i dont think this machine is the issue... what else can i try?
[21:51] <ubnoobtu> I'd like to install then, huh.
[21:51] <redlance> phirex, Are you comfortable using the command line?
[21:51] <grimeton> hm, 12.04 boots where 14.04 doesn't
[21:51] <grimeton> interesting
[21:51] <phirex> redlance: as long as i'm given the commands to type in.. :)
[21:52] <ubnoobtu> zykotick9: It isnt listed on the terminal, but the adapter is a WUSB54Gv2 linksys.
[21:52] <redlance> phirex, Open a command line window, and type "cd /media"
[21:52] <phirex> redlance: ok
[21:52] <zykotick9> ubnoobtu: is that USB?  or in a laptop?  try "lsusb | grep -i net" perhaps.
[21:53] <redlance> phirex, Then do an "ls" and see if it shows anything
[21:53] <phirex> redlance: cdrom and ubuntu
[21:53] <redlance> phirex, Okay, are you currently running from CD or USB?
[21:53] <phirex> redlance: usb..
[21:54] <gartral> arrrgh MTP needs to burn a horrible death, how does ANYONE get crap on their phones now?!?
[21:54] <raj> how do I make RtAlt not a compose key anymore? LtAlt+f gives me ^[f ... RtAlt+f just gives me f
[21:54] <redlance> phirex, Okay, try "sudo mkdir harddrive"
[21:54] <ubnoobtu> zykotick9: Nothing appears, Its an adapter for a PC
[21:55] <phirex> redlance: done
[21:55] <redlance> phirex, Okay, now do "sudo fdisk -l"
[21:55] <ubnoobtu> zykotick9: Ive done this once before. I have the windows driver on a flash drive now, I just dont remember how I got it working before.
[21:55] <zykotick9> ubnoobtu: a usb adapter?  try "lsusb" and see if you see it.
[21:55] <redlance> phirex, And look for the section that lists the size of the drive that you are having trouble with
[21:56] <ubnoobtu> zykotick9: There is it, Its listed. What should I post here?
[21:56] <zykotick9> ubnoobtu: it's just one line right?  just paste it here.
[21:56] <phirex> redlance: sda1...
[21:57] <redlance> phirex, Okay, now try "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/harddrive"
[21:58] <phirex> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,        missing codepage or helper program, or other error        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try        dmesg | tail  or so
[21:58] <ubnoobtu> zykotick9: Bus 081 device 082: ID 13b1:660a Linksys WUSB54G v2 802.11g adapter
[21:58] <ubnoobtu> zykotick9: Sorry man, i cant copypasta it because its on a seperate pc
[21:59] <SenorSenpai> how good is ntfs read/write support in 14.04?
[21:59] <sarahtron> Hello, apt-get update isn't grabbing recent packages e.g., openssl 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.2.  I am on armhf and /etc/apt/sources.list has one line: deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ trusty main restricted universe multiverse  Is there something I am missing?
[21:59] <phirex> redlance: i entered dmesg | tail heres the output - http://paste.ubuntu.com/7610087/
[22:00] <zykotick9> ubnoobtu: sorry, i'd search online for that WUSB54G & linux support or something.  I have no further knowledge for it's support.  best of luck!
[22:00] <trism> sarahtron: that update is in -security
[22:00] <redlance> phirex, Well, I could be wrong, but it looks to me like the file system on the drive is corrupt.
[22:00] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree; sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper; sudo modprobe -r p54usb && sudo modprobe p54usb; and a system reboot may fix it.
[22:01] <phirex> redlance: if thats the case, does it mean my data is doomed?
[22:01] <trism> sarahtron: also in -updates so you could add either trusty-updates or trusty-security (or better yet both)
[22:01] <zykotick9> phirex: if you're on a livecd, and that isn't mounted, you might want to try "sudo fsck.ext4 /dev/sda1" replace sda1 with whatever it actually IS
[22:02] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch: I cant download anything on that pc, it isnt connected to the internet. how can I get it on a USB and then install from that?
[22:02] <sarahtron> trism: ah, thx.  trying now!
[22:02] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: then can you get a wired connection going?
[22:02] <redlance> phirex, Most likely...sorry.  Again, I could be wrong..but the Read Error in the output of dmesg leads me to think it's either a file system issue or the drive it's self.
[22:02] <raj> yeesh, can I get some keybinding help?
[22:03] <redlance> phirex, But do try what zykotick9 suggested too
[22:03] <phirex> zykotick9: fsck.ext4: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sda1 Could this be a zero-length partition?
[22:03] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch: I cant, physical restrictions.
[22:03] <zykotick9> phirex: that doesn't sound good... are you sure it's sda1?
[22:03] <phirex> yes :(
[22:03] <jcstarken> printing issue sharing printer to network 12.04
[22:04] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: download package from http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/all/linux-firmware-nonfree/download and transfer it to broken machine, then run the commands
[22:05] <phirex> there must be something i can do, i cant afford to lose that data :(
[22:06] <gartral> phirex: there's one last bastion of hope for you..
[22:06] <phirex> gartral: ....
[22:06] <gartral> phirex: and it's called testdisk.. though I warn you, it isn't the easiest to use
[22:06] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch:  Thanks. I'll be right back
[22:07] <phirex> gartral: is it on live cd or do i have to install it
[22:08] <zykotick9> phirex: fyi, testdisk tries to rescue partitions, another programe (included with testdisk) is called photorec - that tries to rescue files on a partition.  but i do second gartral's warning.
[22:09] <phirex> well if one of you have some experience with it and willing to walk me through it, i would highly appreciate it..
[22:09] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch: Okay, whats the commands again? To run it from the desktop?
[22:09] <ubnoobtu> sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree; sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper; sudo modprobe -r p54usb && sudo modprobe p54usb; and a system reboot may fix it.
[22:09] <ubnoobtu> opps, sorry, Ment to copypasta to notepad
[22:10] <kieppie> hi
[22:10] <kieppie> does anyone know of some sort of desktop suite for android?
[22:10] <redlance> But it looks like Testdisk will recover the partiton to another destination.  I don't think phirex has the room for that, unless he has an external drive handy.
[22:10] <phirex> redlance: i do have one connected..
[22:11] <redlance> phirex, Oh, alright.  Does it have enough free space to hold all the data from your sick drive?
[22:11] <phirex> yep
[22:11] <phirex> i have testdisk up and running
[22:12] <head_> hello
[22:12] <zykotick9> phirex: if you have more then one drive attached, are you 100% sure it's sda1?  NOTE, they change on boot... just because it's "
[22:12] <ubnoobtu> So how to install these drivers from a usb?
[22:12] <redlance> So to sum up, you currently have the USB stick that you are running from, the external drive, and the sick drive all connected?
[22:12] <head_> i have one big trouble;/
[22:12] <zykotick9> phirex: sorry, ENTER error -- normally" sda1 doesn't mean it is now!
[22:13] <phirex> zykotick9: sorry, what?
[22:13] <head_> i ereased xubuntu. And now i can not boot up mine ubuntu. I have Unity there still but i can not switch it
[22:13] <zykotick9> phirex: if you "sudo fdisk -l" (or "sudo parted -l" if you have GPT) does sda show the size you expect?
[22:14] <head_> when i want to launch ubuntu it says that it can not find xstartxface
[22:14] <head_> do some1 can help me?
[22:14] <phirex> zykotick9: yes. it does
[22:15] <zykotick9> phirex: ok...  BEST of luck.
[22:16] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch: You there? I have gotten the file onto the PC, But I'm stumped, I ran the commands you told me, but it said unable to locate package
[22:16] <zykotick9> ubnoobtu: if you have a DEB file on the new system, try "sudo dpkg -i THEFILE.deb"
[22:16] <jcstarken> head: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[22:17] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: then run sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper; sudo modprobe -r p54usb && sudo modprobe p54usb;
[22:17] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: then reboot
[22:17] <jcstarken> head_: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[22:18] <phirex> zykotick9: well, i'm analysing the disk... but i dont really know what to expect
[22:18] <ubnoobtu> okay, stand by zykotick9 cmdswitch
[22:18] <head_> or diferent. How can i switch froum autologin into choosing account style while login? from root panel ( rescue option while booting?)
[22:18] <zykotick9> phirex: honestly, neither do i.  i tried testdisk once, several years ago - and it didn't work in my case.  photorec did, BUT, you loose all filenames!  HUGE pain, TBO.
[22:19] <zykotick9> head_: keep it in channel please.
[22:19] <phirex> better than nothing but i can see why it's annoying..
[22:19] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch: zykotick9 It now said error processing linux-firmware-nonfree
[22:20] <head_> hmm... but i can not open that terminal normally only in root while rescue
[22:20] <ubnoobtu> can not access archive etc etc
[22:20] <jo-erlend> How well does LXC work with X guests? For instance, is it viable to install a browser and pipelight in a container and use this for things like Netflix? What about Wine gaming?
[22:20] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[22:22] <OerHeks> jo-erlend, for wine gaming, there is a database and support room, but online linux gaming is so much better, steam has 500 linux titles, and 10+ games free
[22:22] <gbb2> this may or may not be connected, but since my last apt-upgrade, the ctrl-v nolonger works and for some reason, Konversation (the IRC app) won't log in.  Rightclick paste does still work though.  Any idea where to start hunting?
[22:22] <jo-erlend> OerHeks, LXC was the main thing. I know Wine fairly well.
[22:23] <shachaf> If I want console vim that can access the X11 clipboard ("* and "+), is there an Ubuntu package I can install for it?
[22:24] <popolio> popo
[22:24] <jcstarken> head_: hold down the right shift button when you boot and it should give you a menu to where you can choose
[22:24] <OerHeks> jo-erlend, https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/lxc.html
[22:24] <jo-erlend> OerHeks, yes, but it doesn't answer my question.
[22:24] <popolio> kilo
[22:24] <popolio> milo
[22:24] <popolio> jilo
[22:24] <popolio> gulio
[22:24] <jo-erlend> popolio, please stop that.
[22:24] <popolio> ok
[22:24] <RMYC> why is cairo-dock so buggy?
[22:24] <PeErLesS> how do I list all gtk3 applications that I have installed?
[22:25] <shachaf> OK, the answer is "install vim-gnome" (or vim-gui-common or something), even if I'm not using the graphical version.
[22:25] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch: still nothing, its telling me error processing linux-firmware-nonfree_1.8_all.deb cannot access archive:: nosuch file or directory. wrrors were encountered while processing
[22:26] <jcstarken> RMYC:while cairo-dock has exciting opengl features it is simply buggy with opengl.
[22:26] <skinux> How can I properly check if DictReader has been successful or not? Set it to a variable and check that variable for False?
[22:26] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: are you in the directory in which you downloaded the file?
[22:26] <trism> jo-erlend: stgraber mentions here that he manages to run steam in it, so you'll probably be fine, https://www.stgraber.org/2014/02/09/lxc-1-0-gui-in-containers/
[22:26] <zykotick9> shachaf: personally, i use highlight section, then middle mouse click (wheel click) for copy/paste into consoles YMMV
[22:26] <ubnoobtu> pardon? How do you mean?
[22:26] <jo-erlend> PeErLesS, you can use apt-rdepends, if you figure out which package provides gtk3 :)
[22:27] <PeErLesS> jo-erlend: cheers
[22:27] <shachaf> zykotick9: But then you need to :set paste or something.
[22:27] <zykotick9> SchrodingersScat: sorry, i should have said consoles - into terminals i mean.
[22:27] <shachaf> And you need to disable mouse integration (:set mouse=) when you want to copy text out of vim.
[22:27] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: if your file is at /var/myfiles/package.deb, is your console at /var/myfiles/ ?
[22:27] <OerHeks> jo-erlend, there seems to be an updated version https://launchpad.net/~pipelight/+archive/stable?field.series_filter=trusty
[22:28] <zykotick9> shachaf: doubt DOH.  nicktab fail, followed by s/should/shouldn't/
[22:28] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch: I am a scrub here, I am trying to learn, but I still dont understand. My terminal says snackman@snackman.
[22:28] <jo-erlend> trism, ah, great! Thanks. I just remembered that series :)
[22:28] <ubnoobtu> err snackman@snacktime
[22:28] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: ok, is the file you downloaded on a usb key?
[22:28] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch: Was, but then I draged it over to the desktop
[22:29] <PeErLesS> Has anyone here managed to launch eclipse with gtk3 broadway?
[22:29] <jcstarken> PeErLesS: echo 'n' | apt-get remove -s libgtk-3-0 , this will remove them all if you except, but atleast this way you can see them all
[22:29] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: ok type "cd Desktop"
[22:29] <PeErLesS> jcstarken: thanks
[22:29] <jo-erlend> OerHeks, the question was really whether I could install desktop applications in a container without getting VNC-like performance. It seems to be possible, so I'm fairly enthusiastic right now. :)
[22:29] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: then type "sudo dpkg -i package.deb"
[22:29] <wrenny> how can I turn off dual screens in Ubuntu
[22:29] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch: Okay. It says bash:cd: desktop no such file or directory
[22:30] <RMYC> ya i really love cairodock but it sure is buggy
[22:30] <RMYC> with opengl
[22:30] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: try "cd ~\Desktop" (case is important)
[22:30] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch: same error as before
[22:30] <OerHeks> jo-erlend, via vnc .. not really a best performance way, gigabit network perhaps
[22:30] <jo-erlend> PeErLesS, I don't think the Broadway backend was ever added to Ubuntu. I'm not certain, so don't trust me. But if I recall correctly, it was mostly a hobby project that never went very far. It may have been further developed though. I don't know.
[22:31] <PeErLesS> jo-erlend: hobby project or not.. it is brilliant :)
[22:31] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch: As you typed it, I put it in, and nothing but the same error
[22:31] <jo-erlend> OerHeks, I _didn't_ want VNC. I wanted real graphics. Seems promising. :)
[22:31] <jo-erlend> PeErLesS, sure looks nice, though I've never tried it myself. Have you been able to use it in Ubuntu?
[22:31] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: what does your prompt say now?
[22:31] <jcstarken> wrenny: system setting/display
[22:32] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: type pwd
[22:32] <Titussss> Ty for help guys:) it worked:)
[22:32] <PeErLesS> jo-erlend: yeap! just google: ubuntu gtk3 broadway for the ppa, works fine for me
[22:32] <jo-erlend> PeErLesS, ah, cool! I'll have to try that some day :)
[22:32] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch: /home/snackman
[22:32] <wrenny> how can I turn off dual screens in Ubuntu
[22:33] <PeErLesS> jo-erlend: however.. i was unable to launch complex applications such as Eclipse
[22:33] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: type "cd /home/snackman/Desktop/"
[22:34] <jo-erlend> ubnoobtu, or "cd ~/Desktop"
[22:34] <ubnoobtu> okay, its now snackman@Snacktime:~/Desktop$
[22:34] <jcstarken> wrenny: I answered you go to system settings then display
[22:34] <wrenny> k thnks
[22:34] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: now type "sudo dpkg -i package_name_goes_here.deb"
[22:35] <zykotick9> cmdswitch: you typoed the slash origionally: try "cd ~\Desktop"
[22:35] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch:  okay, lets see if this works
[22:35] <cmdswitch> replacing the package name with the actual name
[22:35] <jo-erlend> ubnoobtu, you can use the tab key to auto-complete file-names.
[22:35] <wrenny> any built in utils with Ubuntu to control my internal fans ??
[22:36] <ubnoobtu> FRACKIN A, IT WORKED, THANK YOU cmdswitch and jo-erlend !!!!
[22:36] <ubnoobtu> That tab trick was new to me
[22:36] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper; sudo modprobe -r p54usb && sudo modprobe p54usb;
[22:36] <cmdswitch> and then reboot to see if that fixes your issue
[22:36] <jo-erlend> ubnoobtu, kind of awesome, right? There are lots of tricks like that which you won't be able to live without once you get used to them. Pressing ctrl+r for instance, allows you to search for commands you've used in the past. :)
[22:38] <sam_> I'm new to Kubuntu I'm trying to setup virtual desktops...i have changed it to 4 but it doesnt show anywhere so i can switch desktops by clicking etc
[22:39] <ubnoobtu> okay new problem cmdswitch I did the first command and it comes back with FATAL module ndiswrapper not found
[22:39] <cmdswitch> ok
[22:39] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: so do the next
[22:39] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch:  ok
[22:39] <jcstarken> wrenny:Configuration of installed PWM-capable fans can be done with the script pwmconfig. Run sudo pwmconfig and follow the instructions carefully. The output of pwmconfig is a config file containing the definitions of which temperature sensor controls which fan.
[22:40] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch: i pressed enter, and nothing has happened.
[22:40] <samthewildone> when watching movies in fullscreen the videos sometimes tear or jitter.
[22:40] <sam_> can anyone help please?
[22:41] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch: should I continue with the final command?
[22:41] <samthewildone> sam_, whats up ?
[22:41] <wheatthin> samthewildone, do you have properietary drivers installed?
[22:41] <cmdswitch> unboobtu: that's ok, run the last one
[22:41] <sam_> I'm new to Kubuntu I'm trying to setup virtual desktops...i have changed it to 4 but it doesnt show anywhere so i can switch desktops by clicking etc
[22:41] <samthewildone> wheatthin, I would think so.
[22:41] <samthewildone> when I run that flgxinfo it gives me the driver from ati
[22:41] <jcstarken> looking to printing help
[22:42] <wheatthin> samthewildone, also, are you using chromium?
[22:42] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch: alright, so do I continue with the reboot, because neither of the final commands issued a reply or whatever.?
[22:42] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: go ahead and reboot
[22:42] <samthewildone> wheatthin, http://pastebin.com/H0aLL8sC
[22:43] <samthewildone> wheatthin, well I'm talking about movies on my hard drive
[22:43] <samthewildone> wheatthin, as for full screen videos in chromium it plays perfectly fine.
[22:43] <samthewildone> It only comes to movies / videos on the hard drive
[22:44] <ubnoobtu> okay, if this works, this next problem should be easier. I am running this PC on my hdmi tv, as I dont have any monitors around to plug into. The problem is the window is too small? like the edges of the desktop go outside of the screen?
[22:44] <wheatthin> ok.. so I would think you needed to enable gpu accelerated decoding or whatever, I suppose you're using vlc?
[22:44] <Titussss> Hello i have one big problem
[22:45] <samthewildone> nope
[22:45] <samthewildone> let me check
[22:45] <Titussss> after instalation of xubuntu-desktop mine logon screen changed int xfce4 one.
[22:45] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: did you adjust the display settings?
[22:45] <Titussss> mine primary system is ubuntu 14.04 with unity
[22:45] <angelica> Hi all, anyone knows how to fix an unstable wifi connection? I am connected through an USB adapter, here is some info: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7608963/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/7609480/
[22:45] <wilee-nilee> Titussss, This a autologin?
[22:45] <Titussss> yes it is
[22:46] <wilee-nilee> Titussss, Last desktop run defaults to the auto login, and xfce unity or xubuntu is in a dropdown at login.
[22:46] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch: I have before, but each res still doesnt help the problem. I fixed it once before by using some nvidia drivers, but it fudged my PC up so I couldnt enter the home window to open programs, which is why I am doing this all over from scratch
[22:47] <Titussss> and btw how to change this setting to login with password and selecting user?
[22:47] <sam_> I'm new to Kubuntu I'm trying to setup virtual desktops...i have changed it to 4 but it doesnt show anywhere so i can switch desktops by clicking etc
[22:47] <ubnoobtu> wilee-nilee: Whats up man, Your the guy that helped me with this problem once before!
[22:47] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: I cant help with that
[22:47] <samthewildone> sam_, add it to the taskbar
[22:47] <wilee-nilee> Titussss, THat is a new question you had not addressed
[22:47] <helpy> Hello Everyone.
[22:47] <sam_> How? lol
[22:47] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch: Yea, I think its because the card I am using is unsupported
[22:47] <zykotick9> sam_: #kubuntu may be able to help better?
[22:48] <wilee-nilee> ubnoobtu, Doing good, thanks.
[22:48] <helpy> i am having trouble installing ALFA ASUWo36NHR  wireless adapter.
[22:48] <helpy> trying to run ./install i get permission error
[22:48] <sam_> Kubuntu are asleep
[22:48] <cmdswitch> helpy: sudo install ....
[22:49] <helpy> i did
[22:49] <helpy> i get a long error log
[22:49] <helpy> where do i paste it ? :D
[22:49] <cmdswitch> helpy: what's the error?
[22:49] <helpy> lots of them
[22:49] <sam_> i worked it out
[22:49] <felix_lucid> the Lucid kernel update in the last day or so causes GDM freezes on at least two machines. Is this something others have seen?
[22:49] <sam_> just added a widget
[22:49] <Zekka> Hey, is there a way I can globally disable menu icons in 12.10? Let me know if this is a better question for #gtk or #gnome.
[22:49] <helpy> can i pm you with the log ?
[22:49] <sam_> thanks
[22:50] <cmdswitch> helpy: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[22:50] <helpy> roger
[22:50] <Zekka> Googling only found very old results
[22:50] <wilee-nilee> felix_lucid, THis a server?
[22:50] <ubnoobtu> Can someone help me fix my display, The size of the display is messed up, its too wide and tall, and goes outside the screens area. I would like to just adjust it though
[22:50] <kieppie> OK - let's try this again: does anyone know of some sort of desktop suite for android on Linux/Ubuntu?
[22:50] <felix_lucid> Lucid desktop 64-bit
[22:50] <wilee-nilee> felix_lucid, end of life support is over, time to upgrade.
[22:51] <helpy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7610299/
[22:52] <Titussss> any1 can explain me how to restore unity logon screen after installing xubuntu-desktop. Mine linux is Ubuntu 14.04 .
[22:52] <cmdswitch> helpy: sudo make clean; sudo make; sudo make install
[22:52] <felix_lucid> wilee-nilee, no can do. Sigh. Weird, though. First time I've ever had a glitch in keeping OS's up to date in serveral years. And I try to get collegues to OK updating machines in field (medical) but they insist you can't change a machine because you might break it.
[22:52] <helpy> No targets specified
[22:53] <helpy> there is no make file in the folder only install.sh
[22:53] <helpy> readme file is of no help
[22:53] <wilee-nilee> felix_lucid, bummer, just that technically no support, does not mean none will happen, just be prepared for the scenario your in to be addressed here. ;)
[22:54] <helpy> http://www.alfa.com.tw/press_c_show.php?sn=5
[22:54] <helpy> this is the driver i downloaded
[22:54] <helpy> i am on 14.04
[22:54] <wheatthin> install.sh should generate a makefile
[22:54] <cmdswitch> helpy: have you read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1848668 ?
[22:54] <Titussss> wilee-nilee,  can u tell me how to solve mine probl?
[22:54] <Zekka> If anyone responds to my question, please highlight me by using my nick -- going to be on a different tab but if you say my name I should see it
[22:54] <helpy> in principal yes, its just it won't run in the first place
[22:55] <wilee-nilee> helpy, Could we see a pastebin of lsb_release -a
[22:55] <ubnoobtu> Is there anyway to get to the nvidia driver control panel? I adjusted the settings in there once before years ago
[22:55] <ubnoobtu> months*
[22:55] <varikonniemi> how do i get an alias to accept additional parameters?
[22:56] <varikonniemi> alias a="sudo apt-get"
[22:56] <varikonniemi> how can i make it work like: a update
[22:56] <helpy> sure wilee-nilee hang on
[22:56] <varikonniemi> a upgrade
[22:56] <zykotick9> varikonniemi: i'd suggest asking in #bash, those guys/gals are hardcore ;)
[22:56] <helpy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7610318/
[22:57] <zykotick9> varikonniemi: i suspect they're gonna recommend using something other then alias
[22:57] <jcstarken> Really looking for some help with printer sharing 12.04
[22:57] <wilee-nilee> helpy, Thanks, just your link said backtrack 5, just confriming 14.04 is actually used. ;)
[22:58] <ubnoobtu> Anyone familiar with Nvidia?
[22:58] <helpy> its just the computer name :)
[22:58] <wheatthin> varikonniemi, you use a variable with an alias...
[22:58] <helpy> backtracks wont even recognize my wireless usb dongle
[22:58] <braindrop> hey I'm trying to install ubuntu 14.04 server and it hangs at the "detecting network hardware" dialog
[22:58] <helpy> its good to be back on ubuntu after years, lots of improved. still it takes heck of a time to figure out things :) which can also be fun
[22:58]  * zykotick9 notes backtrack is dead
[22:58] <braindrop> can anyone help?
[22:59] <braindrop> This is on hardware that has been running 10.04 for 3 years without an issue
[22:59] <wheatthin> braindrop, is it console based?
[22:59] <ubnoobtu> kali seems pretty cool
[22:59] <braindrop> wheatthin: yes, server
[22:59] <wheatthin> kali is backtrack just renamed :P by that's offtopic
[22:59] <helpy> ubnoobtu,  is it ? is that any better with hardware?
[22:59] <helpy> i know. i have it loaded in downloads :)
[23:00] <zykotick9> wheatthin: is ubuntu just debian but renamed... i hardly think so.
[23:00] <helpy> see how it works. Backtrack is a pain with hardware atleast or lets say for a noob like me
[23:00] <ubnoobtu> helpy: I dont know stuff about it other than my ethical hacker course mentioned it
[23:00] <wheatthin> lol.. a customized distro isn't always coded by the distributor .. lol
[23:00] <wilee-nilee> helpy, I would get a usb wifi that plugs and plays, amazon has many listed with works in linux, many are less than 10$
[23:00] <helpy> it does exactly that in windows wilee-nilee
[23:01] <varikonniemi> wheatthin, what does it mean?
[23:01] <helpy> it should do that in linux also? :)
[23:01] <wilee-nilee> helpy, windows working is not relative here is all. ;)
[23:01] <cmdswitch> helpy: ubuntu != windows
[23:01] <helpy> true that.
[23:01] <helpy> what i probably wanted to say that it IS plug and play
[23:01] <ubnoobtu> Anyone familiar with Nvidia? I want to my a config file and adjust the screen, but I dont remember/know how
[23:01] <wilee-nilee> helpy, Tell that it should work to the manufacturers so the actually make drivers.
[23:01] <wheatthin> varikonniemi, could be a prompt that you're not seeing.. like  NTP when they set the clocks and region
[23:01] <wilee-nilee> they*
[23:02] <Marduk666> hi everyone.... lately I've been experiencing weird issues detecting my USB drives.. I have the external HD plugged into the usb port also a USB stick.. but the computer is not recognizing any of them..... here is the output: http://bpaste.net/show/Kz6SPBikSf8KfXp3Cdg9/
[23:02] <helpy> wilee-nilee, actually it does have a unix folder staying on my desktop
[23:02] <helpy> does install it though
[23:02] <Marduk666> or pastebin if you prefer: http://pastebin.com/ByznH198
[23:02] <helpy> ubuntu installed the same usb without a hitch
[23:02] <helpy> backtrack didnt.
[23:02] <wilee-nilee> helpy, You are making very little sense, but it is not my issue, best of luck. :)
[23:02] <helpy> so i guess backtrack 5 < ubuntu
[23:03] <cmdswitch> ubnoobtu: try http://askubuntu.com/questions/302518/how-to-get-an-nvidia-control-panel
[23:03] <jcstarken> why does cups keep dropping printer, so what should I use instead
[23:03] <wheatthin> helpy that's a really not so good way to look at things lol.
[23:03] <helpy> umm what :s
[23:04] <wheatthin> saying one is greater.. I believe we have much better, active support than any other distro (just about) ;).. so saying a dead distro is greater is not so good
[23:04] <helpy> i just said that i am connected with my usb wireless device in ubuntu without a problem. it ran out of the box. in backtrack it didnt
[23:04] <wilee-nilee> jcstarken, With the apple computer right?
[23:04] <wheatthin> k
[23:04] <helpy> wheatthin correct :)
[23:04] <wilee-nilee> on a network
[23:04] <helpy> anyways cmdswitch did you have a look on pastebin link?
[23:04] <helpy> any suggestions?
[23:05] <jcstarken> wilee-nilee: printer on ubuntu12.04 shared can see it from mac but get auth error yes thank you
[23:05] <ubnoobtu> cmdswitch: Thank m8. I am getting ogg of here, ill be back on the machine in a second.
[23:05] <cmdswitch> helpy: I'm outta answers for you
[23:05] <wilee-nilee> jcstarken, Be careful to ask the questions with the details that matter.
[23:05] <helpy> ok thanks anyways. appreciate it.
[23:06] <dhaval2712> Hello.
[23:06] <braindrop> It worked if I boot with 'noapic' but what do I lose by disabling this?
[23:06] <dhaval2712> Hey, what is the equivalent of systemd-analyze blame in Ubuntu?
[23:07] <Marduk666> hi everyone.... lately I've been experiencing weird issues detecting my USB drives.. I have the external HD plugged into the usb port also a USB stick.. but the computer is not recognizing any of them..... here is the output: http://bpaste.net/show/Kz6SPBikSf8KfXp3Cdg9/
[23:08] <jcstarken> wilee-nilee: what other details do you need? type of network= wireless, ubuntu 12.04 host machine, guess machine imac 27" 10.6.8
[23:08] <cmdswitch> braindrop: http://askubuntu.com/questions/52096/what-do-the-different-boot-options-mean-i-e-acpi-off-noapic-nolapic-etc
[23:09] <braindrop> I saw that, but it doesnt talk at all about what you lose by disabling them
[23:09] <dhaval2712> Hello?
[23:09] <braindrop> also, I never had to disable these things when I installed 10.04, same hardware... so I'm confused
[23:10] <samthewildone> wheatthin, how do i set vlc as my main video player ?
[23:10] <wheatthin> open nautilus and right click on properties, and open with set default
[23:11] <claudio> is there a simple way to add cinnamon to debian
[23:11] <wheatthin> right click on the movie filetype
[23:11] <dhaval2712> Hey what's the equivalent of systemd-analyze blame in Ubuntu?
[23:11] <samthewildone> got it thanks
[23:12] <claudio> is there a simple way to add cinnamon to debian?
[23:12] <blindrage> i'm having a strange issue. i'm running linaro on an arm device (udoo)
[23:13] <wheatthin> linaro?
[23:13] <blindrage> a few weeks ago, all was good and perfect, the internal sata drive went bad. just replaced it, put linaro back on
[23:13] <blindrage> 12.04
[23:13] <blindrage> i have a 4x sata to usb enclosure, works on windows, and it worked with this before i replaced the internal drive
[23:14] <blindrage> since the reload, the drive won't show up
[23:14] <blindrage> not sure where to start troubleshooting...sudo fdisk -l doens't show the drives in the enclosure, just my internal sata and the memory card that boots the arm device
[23:14] <wheatthin> blindrage, did you make sure the drive device is correct in fstab?
[23:14] <blindrage> desktop ubuntu and my windows box show up fine
[23:15] <blindrage> there's nothing in fstab
[23:15] <blindrage> except my swap partition
[23:15] <wheatthin> does it show up while using 'sudo fdisk -l'
[23:15] <wheatthin> without the quote
[23:15] <claudio> i've got a cinnamon in ububtu it's great
[23:15] <blindrage> nope, just mmcblk0 and sda
[23:16] <wheatthin> and it's an esata or usb to sata?
[23:16] <blindrage> sda is the internal drive, mmc is the memory card that starts the boot process (uboot)
[23:16] <blindrage> sata to usb
[23:16] <blindrage> probox4 to be excat
[23:16] <wheatthin> try upgrading kernel?
[23:16] <blindrage> and i know the udoo supports port multiplication since it worked before
[23:17] <blindrage> apt-get upgrade shows no eligable packages
[23:17] <dw1> claudio: why not ask in #debian
[23:17] <wheatthin> for 12.04 release?
[23:17] <blindrage> yea, arm version
[23:17] <wheatthin> hmm..
[23:18] <blindrage> i could always try their version of arch and see if maybe there's something missing from when they made their version arm compat
[23:19] <blindrage> i'm trying to avoid doing it over and over again
[23:19] <wheatthin> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/04/upgrade-ubuntu-14-04-12-04
[23:19] <claudio> thaks!!!
[23:20] <blindrage> update-manager not found, assuming it's not possible with this one
[23:20] <blindrage> it's not a pure ubuntu distro i'm guessing since ubuntu doesn't support arm out of the box
[23:20] <wheatthin> umm it should be installed either way
[23:21] <wheatthin> then check coninical repo and upgrade
[23:22] <wheatthin> canonical sorry
[23:29] <jackarius86> hi, how do i install the radeon driver?
[23:29] <jackarius86> i have just read a guide on how to do it but then i read somewhere else that fglrx is no longer used
[23:29] <jackarius86> and now i am confused
[23:30] <gruzzli> @jack your on ubuntu right?
[23:30] <jackarius86> yes
[23:30] <gruzzli> what card do you have?
[23:30] <jackarius86> radeon hd 3200
[23:31] <gruzzli> O.O thats an old boy.
[23:31] <jackarius86> yes :/
[23:31] <jackarius86> but it still will improve my graphics
[23:32] <gruzzli> i might not be able to help because, im using a 7850 and it auto  installed for me.
[23:33] <braindrop> I just installed ubuntu 14.04 server and it seems to only see one cpu core. I have an i7 3770. In 10.04, this showed up as 8 cores due to HT
[23:33] <braindrop> Can anyone help
[23:35] <zykotick9> braindrop: did you somehow install a non-pae kernel (if you use 32 bit)?
[23:36] <braindrop> it's 64-bit
[23:36] <braindrop> I installed the standard 14.04 server image
[23:36] <zykotick9> braindrop: never mind then ;)  good luck.
[23:36] <braindrop> :(
[23:37] <shaddowed> hello, can you integrate thunderbird lightning with ubuntus date time indicator? if not what calendar do you guys recommend that works well on ubuntu
[23:38] <OerHeks> braindrop, how do you tell there is only one core?
[23:38] <OerHeks> use paste.ubuntu.com for multiple lines
[23:39] <braindrop> htop only shows one, where it normally shows many, and a single stress thread maxes it to 100%... I also took a look at lshw output and did not see multiple cpus, just one
[23:41] <rvgate> Hello, i was wondering if all the hardware in this desktop is fully supported: http://tweakers.net/gallery/121456?inv_id=299449#tab:inventaris (click Desktop) my main concern is the webcam (C525), the videocards (2x HD6950) running in crossfire and the 5.1 headset that connects using SPDIF and USB... would this all run flawlessly or are there some expected issues?
[23:41] <OerHeks> braindrop, what does lscpu say?
[23:42] <braindrop> 1 cpu, 1 core per socket, 1 thread per core
[23:43] <braindrop> all wrong...
[23:43] <braindrop> :(
[23:43] <braindrop> This is a fresh install of 14.04 server on a new SSD
[23:44] <braindrop> If I boot into 10.04 on the old HDD, it works completely
[23:45] <OerHeks> braindrop, now i have no idea anymore :-(
[23:45] <EzeQL> hi, wifi adapter gone after accepeting lastest update from 14.04. What can i do?
[23:46] <braindrop> the L3 cache is also disabled according to lshw... what the heck...
[23:52] <FmRUF> print sharing issues on network,printer connected to 12.04 osx machines on network can see the printer from osx but get a auth error everytime trying to print, can not find the step that i missed in cups
[23:54] <wheatthin> braindrop, that would be in the bios tho
[23:55] <wheatthin> jackarius86, still having issues?
[23:55] <braindrop> wheatthin: huh? I'm pretty lost at this point
[23:55] <wheatthin> well unless it's a cpu malfunction, it would have to be a setting in the bios
[23:56] <wheatthin> multicore or something like that
[23:56] <abstrakt> how do I use my standard emacs shortcuts on the terminal in tmux?
[23:56] <braindrop> wheatthin: the bios is set to allow all cores
[23:56] <braindrop> wheatthin: if I boot into 10.04, everything works as normal
[23:56] <skinux> I've asked this before, but, which app is it that creates desktop launcher files?
[23:56] <abstrakt> all I get is a string output of "^A" when I hit Ctrl-a for example
[23:56] <braindrop> wheatthin: in 10.04 all the cores and the cache work
[23:56] <wheatthin> and you have 14.04 now?
[23:57] <jackarius86> wheatthin: yes i am, its being a pain :(
[23:57] <braindrop> wheatthin: just installed it onto a new SSD
[23:57] <wheatthin> can I get a pastebin of    uname -a   and one of dmesg
[23:57] <skinux> I made a launcher for Aptana Studio based on Launcher for Eclipse, but it's unable to launch Aptana Studio.
[23:58] <wheatthin> jackarius86, You'll have to type in the search field "software and update" then go to the last tab to the right and install the proprietary drivers