[05:11] <kbmonkey_> morning Kilos 
[05:12] <cold> eish
[05:12] <Kilos> hi kbmonkey_  
[05:13] <kbmonkey_> ja it is cold hey
[05:13] <Kilos> often when i come to this window i gotta first tick the text block or it messes with my nick
[05:14] <Kilos> just looked outside. ice about 1/2 inch thick on sheeps water
[05:14] <kbmonkey_> wow!
[05:14] <kbmonkey_> I got tail
[05:14] <Kilos> lol ya
[05:17] <apie> that is better
[05:17] <apie> ook ook
[05:19] <Kilos> and no hot water
[05:19] <Kilos> cold water pipe to geyser frozen in the ceiling
[05:19] <Kilos> in the roof above ceiling
[05:19] <apie> eish, even the hot water pipe froze hey
[05:19] <apie> oh ja you just said, eish
[05:20] <Kilos> no man the cold to the geyser
[05:20] <apie> do you unfreeze it or los it to unfreeze itself
[05:20] <Kilos> must be winter here methinks
[05:21] <Kilos> its in the ceiling sdo we can just wait till ten or so for the sun to help out
[05:22] <Kilos> wow someone stole all my cart rails last night
[05:23] <apie> really?
[05:23] <apie> eish. want to come look around just now
[05:24] <apie> I ping server, 10 second intervals. timing lag, takes 60-90 seconds to move inventory or craft anything. so strange.
[05:25] <apie> wurst is waiting for chest to open and accidentally pushing escape :P
[05:27] <Kilos> weird. seems like i was on a map before cart rains, walked a few bends and twists and there they are again
[05:27] <Kilos> hi Private_User  
[05:27] <Private_User> hi Kilos
[05:27] <Kilos> my chests open quick kb
[05:28] <Private_User> ?
[05:29] <Private_User> you lost me Kilos
[05:30] <Kilos> haha was telling kb but he now apie  
[05:30] <Private_User> oh ok sorry
[05:30] <Private_User> hehe
[05:31] <Kilos> apie  rails gone again
[05:31] <Kilos> something corrupt there
[05:32] <apie> Kilos, lag.
[05:32] <apie> I see stuff like that all the time.
[05:32] <apie> makes me mad :(
[05:32] <Kilos> no man, lag cant remove rails and show everything else
[05:33] <Kilos> i see a massive kinda castle building that i havent see before too
[05:34] <Kilos> mazals house
[05:35] <apie> no it can. I read up on how the minetest core engine communicates it's data. and nodes get updated on an ad-hoc basis
[05:39] <apie> Kilos, http://kbmonkey.blinkenshell.org/#bPhone
[05:39] <Kilos> ya found them again
[05:39] <Kilos> eish
[05:40] <apie> which rails do you use? powered rail + brake rail?
[05:42] <Kilos> i have lotsa power in plain rails and brake at ends and copper to try keep cart from just stopping on its own
[05:42] <Kilos> i get tired of pushing
[05:45] <Kilos> lotsa banana facts
[05:45] <apie> you see the banana phone? ha ha.
[05:48] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo
[05:52] <apie> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[06:15] <Kilos> game just hung, you playing with tnt again ThatGraemeGuy  
[06:17] <Kilos> locked in inventory and esc couldnt remove it grrr
[06:23] <apie> yar :(
[06:27] <Kilos> warning updatelistener invalid value
[06:27] <Kilos> whats that i get it lots
[06:57] <Kilos> explain  tome, when the game gets very slow, is it the server throttling us or the internet in between. how does one see that
[07:01] <apie> I am not sure Kilos, as I can ping the server with very fast reply time
[07:02] <Kilos> must be a way to find out thwere the prob is
[07:02] <apie> we should check firewall settings
[07:02] <apie> I think the game uses udp on port 30000. maybe something is interfering there
[07:02] <Kilos> ping doesnt give you the info from the game itself does it?
[07:03] <apie> nope
[07:03] <apie> it just tests the reply time
[07:03] <Kilos> so if thats quick then its the game itself holding back
[07:04] <apie> exactly that
[07:04] <Kilos> i dont understand how a server like that works. they must have lotsa peeps buying space right?
[07:05] <Kilos> so can they then throttle the cheaper versions so the big payers get better service?
[07:05] <Kilos> is the package speed related that is?
[07:06] <apie> yes it is related, but if that were the case then the fly and graeme would also have the same problem
[07:06] <Kilos> duh
[07:06] <Kilos> they are man
[07:06] <apie> they are?
[07:06] <Kilos> arent they?
[07:07] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy  tell man!
[07:08] <Kilos> so then apie if they arent then its the game itself where you set who gets throttled most
[07:08] <apie> a sheep walked into the water and drowned :p
[07:08] <Kilos> oi
[07:09] <apie> okay I picked up water in a bucket and timed with 10-second interval pings, it took 50 seconds to show in my inventory
[07:09] <apie> sometimes it is 30 seconds, sometimes 90
[07:09] <Kilos> see thats no good
[07:09] <Kilos> at times its instant
[07:09] <apie> no it is not, I made a lot of mistakes ha ha
[07:09] <apie> it is never instant
[07:09] <Kilos> consistancy is what counts
[07:10] <Kilos> man there were times when i move stuff in repo to work with a different tool or so and by the time im out it shows already
[07:11] <Kilos> other times it takes long
[07:13] <apie> repo?
[07:14] <Kilos> inventory man
[07:14] <Kilos> the thing where you choose what you wanna use
[07:14] <Kilos> crafter
[07:15] <apie> ah. why do you call it a repo? 
[07:16] <apie> does it have all your packages? ha ha
[07:17] <apie> I go shower now, maybe have breakfast #3 ;)
[07:18] <Kilos> lol
[07:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> eh?
[07:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> work done, i'm off, have a good day all
[12:14] <Trixar_za> I got bored and built a huge tower. Even falling from it into deep water is fatal.
[12:14] <Trixar_za> Then I built a second shorter one
[12:14] <Trixar_za> :P
[12:14] <Trixar_za> Although technically they're pillars
[12:25] <Kilos> lol
[12:25] <Kilos> find lotsa food , eating heals you if you not totally dead
[12:26] <Kilos> apples bread rats and sheep
[14:05] <Kilos> Trixar_za  have you got ladders
[14:05] <Trixar_za> Nope
[14:06] <Kilos> cut trees and put them in centre bottom of the crater
[14:06] <Kilos> then you get wooden planks
[14:07] <Kilos> then put lotsa planks in centre bottom and make lotsa sticks
[14:08] <Kilos> then make ladders, then when you on top of a pillar you very short tap W so you can see over the edge then you build the ladders down while you hang onto it
[14:21] <charl_> hi smile|leren 
[14:21] <charl_> you busy studying ?
[14:22] <smile|leren> charl_: yes :D
[14:23] <smile|leren> software analysis and modelling with UML
[14:23] <smile|leren> :p
[14:23] <charl_> very good
[14:23] <charl_> never used UML in pracitce, learned it at university though
[14:24] <charl_> 90% of what i learned at university i never ended up usingt
[14:24] <charl_> *using
[14:31] <Trixar_za> Oh, that's what it's called
[14:43] <superfly> why is it that every developer I met has said the same thing?
[14:44] <superfly> I've used some of the database design and one or two other things I learnt
[14:44] <superfly> the rest, also, uyseless
[14:44] <superfly> *useless
[14:59] <charl_> superfly: i see university as a "rite of passage"
[14:59] <charl_> not as a place where you actually learn anything
[15:56] <Kilos> afternoon guys, deep at 2022 06
[15:57] <Kilos> like 25 mins of climbing to see daylight again
[16:27] <Trixar_za> Le grrr
[16:28] <Trixar_za> I want something like http://trixarian.net/forum2/ but without the PHP 5.3 requirement
[16:28] <Trixar_za> And no Vanilla isn't an acceptable answer (the newest one is slow and bloated) :P
[17:03] <Kilos> hi Private_User  
[17:07] <Kilos> Xethron  fix it
[17:14] <Kilos> Xethron  fix it
[17:24] <theblazehen> evening
[17:24] <magespawn> evening all
[17:24] <theblazehen> hey magespawn 
[17:24] <Kilos> hi theblazehen  magespawn  
[17:24] <theblazehen> hi Kilos 
[17:26] <magespawn> how are things going?
[17:26] <magespawn> minetest -ing away
[17:26] <magespawn> ?
[17:26] <Kilos> apart from cold, good ty and you?
[17:26] <Kilos> reached -2022 today
[17:27] <Kilos> eish superfly  8+14°c for you but lotsa rain tonight and tomorrow
[17:29] <superfly> Trixar_za: Vanilla seems to be the best... it's the best of the all forum software I've come across
[17:29] <Kilos> wbb
[17:30] <Trixar_za> Probably - if it's configured well enough, it works pretty well. But much like most software, that rarely happens :P
[18:09] <superfly> btw, happy birthday ThatGraemeGuy!
[18:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> thanks :-)
[18:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> there better be a big cake at my semi-burned house
[18:12] <superfly> I'll see if I can organise something :-P
[18:12] <ThatGraemeGuy> lol
[18:38] <magespawn> happy birthday ThatGraemeGuy 
[18:54] <Kilos> aha happy birthday ThatGraemeGuy  
[18:55] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:09] <smile|leren> good night everyone
[19:09] <smile|leren> :)
[19:24] <magespawn> bed time for me too, good night all