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ahoneybunhey valorie03:07
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soeegood morning06:16
Riddellhola07:54
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lordievaderGood morning.08:04
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Riddellplasma 5 uploaded to next ppa building now09:50
Riddelltodo: khotkeys plasma-desktop powerdevil09:50
soeeplasma-next ? :)09:51
yofelRiddell: why does libkscreen have an epoch o.O?09:52
Riddellyofel: good question, it shouldn't09:52
Riddellsoee: yes09:52
yofelhm, seems like all of plasma has an intentional epoch?09:53
Riddellwell spotted, but I don't think it should09:54
yofelwell, they all have the same version, so it might make sense for simplicity - except kscreen09:55
Riddellsimplicity of what?09:56
yofelhm, I wanted to say version matching as a few will need an epoch anyway... but they're supposed to not override any kde4 packages?09:57
Riddellthe source packages are supposed to have different names09:58
yofelif not then an epoch is probably not needed09:58
* Riddell fixes09:58
yofelsources sure, but binaries? i.e. systemsettings 4.97.0 << systemsettings 4:4.11.909:59
Riddellhmm09:59
Riddellyes there will be some of those10:00
yofelso it's either rename all, or epoch + remove kde-workspace in u+110:01
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* Riddell unfixes10:02
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yofelsorry for the confusion -.-10:07
* yofel goes back to kde-workspace10:07
BluesKaj'Morning folks10:07
yofelRiddell: did you talk with debian about the versioning?10:08
Riddellno, I should do10:09
yofelkubotu: newversion kde-workspace 4.11.1010:16
kubotuhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/132804910:17
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yofel*blink*11:12
yofellintian has color output now o.O11:12
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soeeplasma-next 4.97.0 will be installable in 14.04 ?12:03
Riddellsoee: no we're only making packages for utopic12:09
soee:(12:10
sgclarkRiddell: sorry family was high maintenance, I am fixing 4.97.0 breaks now12:13
Riddellfamily often are12:13
Riddellbut often in a good way12:13
sgclarkRiddell: so did we decide against allLibraries12:13
soeebtw what is the current status of utopic ?12:13
* sgclark fears wrap-and-sort12:14
Riddellsgclark: my current thinking is that allLibraries is only useful when there's a lot of libraries in one package, we don't tend to have that with kf5 and plasma12:14
sgclarkRiddell: sounds good12:14
Riddellsgclark: I'm unsure if we should have the 4: epoch in plasma packages but I'm keeping it there for now12:18
sgclarkok12:18
sgclarkRiddell: so it looks like something somewhere is still depending on kf5-kio-dev and needs to be kio-dev. tracking it down now12:22
Riddellsgclark: there's quite a few listed on http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_4.97.0_utopic.html12:26
Riddellalso  libkf5globalaccel-dev which I've uploaded12:26
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sgclark Riddell:  libkf5plasmaquick5 : Depends: libkf5plasma5 (>= 4.97.0) why is it depending on 4.97.0? Nothing is jumping out at me in control13:35
Riddellsgclark: looking14:05
Riddellsgclark: 4.97.0 is the version of libkf5plasma5 from plasma-framework sources that we're building14:06
Riddellwhere's this issue?14:06
sgclarkRiddell: it should be 4.100.014:07
sgclarkit is failing at apt- not being able to install 4.97.0 (does not exist)14:08
Riddellsgclark: nope frameworks is 4.100.0 but libkf5plasma5 is from plasma-framework and plasma packages are at 4.97.014:08
Riddellsgclark: what is failing?14:08
sgclarkplasma-framework-dev : Depends: libkf5plasmaquick5 (= 4.100.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa3) but it is not going to be installed14:09
sgclarkRiddell: so plasma also has libkf5plasma5 because so does plasma-framework, perhaps that is our problem?14:10
Riddeller wait I'm talking nonsense14:11
Riddelllibkf5plasmaquick5 and libkf5plasma5 are part of plasma-framework which is part of kf5 which are at 4.100.014:11
sgclarkright14:11
sgclarkbut somewhere in the works libkf5plasma* is being called for version 4.97.014:12
Riddellsgclark: libkf5plasmaquick5 installs fine for me, version 4.100.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa314:12
Riddellsgclark: where is this problem?14:13
sgclarkyeah I got it to install, hoping it was a hiccup in launchpad, trying a rebuild14:13
sgclarkRiddell: nope still dying https://launchpadlibrarian.net/177260838/buildlog_ubuntu-utopic-amd64.libksysguard_4%3A4.97.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz14:14
Riddellok let me eat this sandwich14:15
sgclarkRiddell: and yes it installs locally fine.14:16
sgclarkRiddell: np, afk a couple myself14:17
Riddellit's something to do with the version of libqt5qml514:34
RiddellI added a new qt5 ppa dependency to the ppa today14:34
sgclarkoh ok14:35
Riddellso probably plasma-framework needs a rebuild14:35
RiddellI'll upload it again14:35
sgclarkok thank you14:36
Riddellsgclark: run this  sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ci-train-ppa-service/landing-00514:37
Riddellthat'll add the same ppa as is now being used by kubuntu-ppa/next (but wasn't when frameworks were being built)14:38
sgclarkahh ok14:38
Riddellsgclark: did you send off your funding request?14:47
sgclarkRiddell: yes, I have not heard back though14:47
Riddellno it usually takes a couple of weeks14:48
sgclarkok14:48
Riddellyou used to be able to poke jono after maybe 10 days but he's left now so not sure who14:48
sgclarkRiddell: things to be concerned with? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7618440/14:49
Riddellsgclark: yep14:50
Riddellsgclark: I set that curor package to be arch all but seems they've since added a binary to it14:50
Riddellso I guess set it to arch: any14:51
sgclarkok ty14:51
Riddelldunno what the second one is about14:51
Riddelltry that and see if it goes away14:51
sgclarkyeah both went away14:52
sgclarkRiddell: is the epoch 4: supposed to be on everthing kf5 or just plasma bits?15:33
sgclarkRiddell: nm you are already looking at plasma-framework15:35
Riddellsgclark: just plasma bits15:51
sgclarkok15:51
Riddell(and even then I'm not sure, want to discuss with debian)15:51
Riddellyay, breeze is green15:52
sgclarkpretty sure the other reds just need rebuild when plasma-framework publishes15:53
* sgclark hopes15:53
Riddellit is frustrating how publishing takes so long, I'm sure it never used to15:54
sgclarkdoes seem to take awhile15:54
Riddellkubotu: newversion libqapt 2.2.016:02
kubotuhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/132816516:03
sgclarkRiddell: if you can take a glance at kio-extras http://paste.ubuntu.com/7618833/ is that a extra-cmake-modules path issue or?16:17
Riddellsgclark: hmm..16:27
Riddellsgclark: there's already a add_subdirectory( doc )16:28
Riddellbut my release scripts (well apachelogger's) added that extra ecm_optional_add_subdirectory(doc)16:28
Riddellwhich is confusing it16:28
Riddellin CMakeLists.txt16:29
Riddellsgclark: just patch it out and mark as a tar fix on the note pad16:29
sgclarkok16:29
Riddellsanta_: why do your merges need xauth? does that fix a problem?16:30
Riddelllooking at https://code.launchpad.net/~panfaust/+activereviews16:30
yofelRiddell: in debian xvfb doesn't depend on xauth16:30
yofelyou'll need both for the tests though16:31
sgclarkRiddell: yeahh it does need xauth, not sure why those it was removed. 16:31
yofelsgclark: in ubuntu xvfb pulls it in, in debian not16:31
Riddellah16:31
sgclarkahh I see16:31
* Riddell merges16:31
Riddellyofel: I take it it's a big holiday in much of the continent today?16:32
yofelit's the extension of yesterday in most places16:32
Riddellwhat happened yesterday?16:33
yofelhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentecost16:34
Riddellcool, happy ghostly messiah day16:37
yofelheh, yeah ^^16:37
santa_Riddell: yeah, thats correct <yofel> sgclark: in ubuntu xvfb pulls it in, in debian not16:37
santa_thanks for merging16:37
santa_I have been a bit more focused on siductions' kde 4 this weekend but I think I will send soon more stuff regarding getting kf5 built on debian sid16:38
Riddell"I got that error too in khelpcenter kinfocenter and kio-extras" and khotkeys16:39
Riddellall have that docs error in cmake16:39
santa_I'm leaving  for a while see you soon16:40
shadeslayer"happy ghostly messiah day"16:43
shadeslayerhahaha16:43
sgclarkRiddell: patching CMakeLists.txt does fix it16:46
Riddellsgclark: could you test this updated tar? http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/plasma-4.97.0/kio-extras-4.97.0.tar.xz17:36
sgclarkRiddell: sure17:36
sgclarkRiddell: that tar does not require the patch, so fixed17:44
Riddellgroovy17:44
sgclarkRiddell: how does that work when a tar changes? also are you going to fix the other broken ones as well?17:52
Riddellsgclark: how does what work?  I make it on my laptop here then ask kde sysadmin to put it on depot.kde.org17:53
Riddellyes I'm making new ones for khotkeys khelpcenter kinfocenter17:54
sgclarkRiddell: ahh gotcha, so leave the patched debian in ppa?17:54
Riddellput the new tar in the PPA17:54
sgclarkok, how do I do that?17:54
Riddellif you already have the old tar you can rename it with an a in the version 4.97.0a17:54
Riddellsgclark: new tars on http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/plasma-4.97.0/18:04
sgclarkok18:04
Riddellfor khotkeys khelpcenter kinfocenter and the one you just got for kio-extras18:04
sgclarkok, I am still not entirely clear on how to upload new tars18:05
Riddellsgclark: you need to re-version them18:05
sgclarkok and then dput as normal?18:05
Riddellkio-extras-4.97.0.tar.xz becomes kio-extras_4.97.0a.orig.tar.xz18:05
Riddelland change the version in debian/changelog to 4.97.0a18:05
Riddelland then dput as normal18:06
sgclarkok got it, thank you18:06
Riddell(you can also delete from the PPA but they seem to hand around for ages after you delete them so its not very practical)18:06
sgclarkRiddell: rejected: Unable to find kio-extras_4.97.0a.orig.tar.xz in upload or distribution.18:13
sgclarkRiddell: I don't see where the .orig tar gets uploaded in dput18:15
yofelsgclark: bzr builddeb should automatically include the source for this case18:17
yofelsgclark: what did you do generate the package?18:18
sgclark../kubuntu-automation/bzr-buildpackage-ppa -s 518:19
yofelthe -s shouldn't be there18:19
sgclarkok18:19
yofelthat automatically adds '-sd' to the build parameters which skips the source18:20
sgclarkah ha! thank you yofel18:20
yofelif you run 'debuild -S' it tries to guess whether to include the source or not (if a previous changelog entry with same upstream version already exists: no, if not: yes)18:22
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yofelyou can override that with: -sa (force include), -sd (diff-only, force-exclude)18:22
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sgclarkok, I think it is something with changelog, still rejects. shouldn't dch -i create a new entry? it seems to just be old. and 4.96.0 is missing altogether18:26
Riddellyofel: bzr-buildpackage-ppa -s 5  just sets it to ~ppa518:26
Riddellsgclark: I think you need     bzr-buildpackage-ppa -s 5 -- -sa18:26
Riddellto force it to add the .orig into the .changes file18:27
yofelRiddell: it does not:18:27
yofelif args.suffix > 1:18:27
yofel    application += ["-sd"]18:27
sgclarkok thanks, have you noticed changelogs are missing entries?18:27
yofel-sd -sa just ends up using the latter one18:27
yofelsgclark: for the initial entry, there should really be only one line18:28
yofelbut that's something for when we upload to the archive18:28
yofelsgclark: also, dch will never add a new entry if the current one is UNRELEASED18:29
sgclarkno I mean last release is missing all together from changelog and it looks like it was merged in this release entry. I smell a wrap-and-sort18:29
sgclarkoh I see18:29
yofelno, that was dch's behaviour18:29
yofelit will edit the current entry and just increase the version18:30
yofelwith the new (more or less) behavior I really discourage using -i18:30
yofeljust 'dch' does what you want usually18:30
sgclarkok18:30
sgclarkso still rejected yofel and you advised against Riddells suggestion, what am I supposed to do to get it to upload new source?18:32
yofelwhat's the rejection error?18:32
sgclarkUnable to find kio-extras_4.97.0a.orig.tar.xz in upload or distribution. Riddell made new tars18:33
yofelhm, and you just ran 'bzr-buildpackage-ppa' this time?18:33
sgclarkI built with the a version and I cannot figure out how to upload tars18:33
sgclarkbzr-buildpackage-ppa 518:34
yofelremove the 518:34
yofelyou probably re-uploaded the ~ppa5 file, while the new one will be ~ppa118:34
sgclarkyofel that did it, thanks!!18:35
sgclarkAccepted18:35
yofelthe 5 belonged to the -s parameter, sorry for not being exact18:35
sgclarkoh I see18:36
sgclarkI still don't see why entire changelog entries for version 4.96.0 are gone, shouldn't they be in there?18:37
yofelthe changelog should match what changed in the primary archive, so until our package is there, we always have the 'intial' upload changelog entry18:37
yofel*initial18:39
sgclarkoh because we moved to next?18:39
yofelsgclark: no, just think of the changelog as being the changelog of the package in the archive - until the package is there, there's not really a point in having one...18:41
yofelso until it's uploaded there, the history is just in bzr18:41
yofelfor the initial archive upload, the changelog gets reset anyway18:41
Riddellsgclark: I never changed the 4.96.0 UNRELEASED to released so the initial upload script just kept the single changelog entry18:52
Riddellsgclark: not very tidy but we're just working in a PPA for now so not too important18:52
sgclarkRiddell: oh ok18:53
Riddellsgclark: new tars up19:07
Riddell05aefef09c8691fd0f99de6dfbf9354b0c378426f0208112aab83e9f7dbf1c68  ksysguard-4.97.0.tar.xz19:07
Riddella8df2d27f0c251e62407e3fc59df5b242aa1b21f3f33912c6e9c75fcafa0e0c0  kmenuedit-4.97.0.tar.xz19:07
sgclarkok19:07
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yofelshadeslayer: are you still doing something on the kde-workspace merge?20:04
sgclarkRiddell: what is wrong with kio-extras?20:05
Riddellsgclark: dunno yet but it's red in http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_4.97.0_utopic.html20:06
Riddellcompiling now to look20:06
yofellist-missing != 020:06
Riddellkubotu: newversion plasma-mediacenter 1.2.9020:06
kubotuhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/132824620:06
yofeland the ppa log shows clearly why it's red...20:07
Riddellppa2 up, hope that makes it green20:10
shadeslayeryofel: dunno, am I supposed to be?20:12
shadeslayerI forget easily :'(20:12
shadeslayerafaicr nope20:12
yofelsgclark: FWIW, this should cover all color cases I remember:20:13
yofelBLUE: unbuilt, BOTH RED: faild to build/broken ABI, i386 RED: list-missing has new files, BOTH YELLOW: new symbols/missing cmake dep, i386 YELLOW: lintian complaints20:13
yofelshadeslayer: then I assume you just never actually built it20:13
* yofel goes fixing20:13
shadeslayersounds like something very wrong :S20:14
shadeslayeryofel: what's the issue?20:14
shadeslayerI have built every package I've merged, so that would be weird20:14
yofelfirst one was libkwinactiveeffects.so.1abi5 not being found as install file was named libkwinactiveeffects1abi4.install20:15
yofelthat failed the build completely20:15
yofelnow I'm looking at:20:15
yofelW: kde-workspace source: binaries-have-file-conflict kde-workspace-data plasma-widgets-workspace usr/share/kde4/apps/plasma/packages/org.kde.plasma.tasks/contents/code/layout.js20:15
yofeland others20:15
shadeslayer@_@20:16
shadeslayerodd20:16
yofeldid you maybe forget to commit something...?20:16
shadeslayerI can't check20:17
shadeslayerfiles at the office20:18
yofelwell, nvm. I'll just fix it20:18
yofel*blink*20:18
yofelW: kdm: script-in-etc-init.d-not-registered-via-update-rc.d etc/init.d/kdm20:18
yofelalso fun: E: kdm: maintainer-script-should-not-use-adduser-system-without-home postinst:7720:19
* yofel wonders what the longest lintian check name is...20:19
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sgclarkIs this something we can fix? or upstream issue copyright-refers-to-deprecated-bsd-license-file20:48
Riddellsgclark: do you know which file it's talking about?20:54
sgclarkRiddell: not really, looking through orange stuff I can fix. Will try and see20:55
Riddellsgclark: which package is this?20:58
sgclarkkinfocenter20:58
Riddellsgclark: if in doubt about lintian issues, google knows all21:00
Riddellsgclark: http://lintian.debian.org/tags/copyright-refers-to-deprecated-bsd-license-file.html21:00
Riddellinclude the full licence in debian/copyright21:00
sgclarkok thanks21:02
sgclarksorry I usually google it. 21:02
Riddellyay kwin is in!21:04
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