| ochosi | morning everyone | 07:38 |
|---|---|---|
| * ochosi is back | 07:38 | |
| ochosi | Unit193: i think that can't hurt | 07:38 |
| ochosi | my information is quite some time old, but i have to add that i didn't get a reply to my last email yet (from last week) | 07:38 |
| knome | ochosi, since you're the XPL, did you get my message about the project funds? | 07:40 |
| ochosi | i read it just now, yeah | 07:48 |
| ochosi | not sure what we do with them though, iirc we never decided on anything | 07:50 |
| Noskcaj | ochosi, we could just use the money to get xfce devs days off work to finish 4.12 | 07:56 |
| ochosi | heh | 07:56 |
| ochosi | i think that won't suffice | 07:56 |
| Noskcaj | (just the first thing that came to ming other than merchandise) | 07:56 |
| ochosi | but i'm happy to grab my share of it in this case :) | 07:56 |
| ochosi | what did i miss in my absence? | 08:02 |
| knome | ochosi, all the few coins of which some go to paypal fees ;) | 08:03 |
| knome | i think we should use them as we would use the ubuntu community funds. | 08:03 |
| knome | i even thought we could donate them to that fund, then request stuff for at least that worth | 08:04 |
| knome | but it wouldn't make sense. | 08:04 |
| ochosi | yeah, it wouldn't | 08:04 |
| knome | otoh, it would get the money out of our hands. | 08:04 |
| ochosi | we'd never know whether we'd get it back | 08:04 |
| knome | we most probably would | 08:04 |
| ochosi | does it burden you that much? :) | 08:04 |
| knome | but here's the thing | 08:04 |
| knome | we could get the amount we asked for AND that money | 08:04 |
| knome | not like it's burning my pockets, more like i'd like us to use it now that we have it | 08:05 |
| knome | because we've been talking about fundraising and needing money before | 08:05 |
| ochosi | yeah, i mean we have been talking about it in the past, but without a clear result | 08:06 |
| ochosi | the bug-bounty mail didn't really create much "buzz" on the ML, so i'd guess that one's off the table for now :) | 08:06 |
| ochosi | although i'd like to bring it up again at a meeting i think | 08:06 |
| knome | i don't mind it, but i don't feel very strongly about pushing for it | 08:07 |
| ochosi | the "promotional material" that we could fund, well, meh, i'm not sure that helps us one bit as a team to make a step forward | 08:07 |
| knome | well, not really | 08:07 |
| knome | which is why i've proposed stuff like "let's pay for elfy's webcam", which he denied | 08:07 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: i think it's time we look into getting you upload-rights again | 08:07 |
| knome | (which is ok) | 08:07 |
| ochosi | yeah, team member infrastructure can be ok i think | 08:08 |
| knome | i'm not proposing we all should go and get hardware because we can pay it from the project funds | 08:08 |
| knome | but it makes sense to me to cover some running costs of team members | 08:09 |
| knome | i guess including flyer printing. | 08:09 |
| knome | there isn't really anything >1 people can enjoy | 08:09 |
| knome | "enjoy".. | 08:09 |
| knome | i mean, even if we bought a huge banner for conferences | 08:10 |
| ochosi | t-shirts for all team members :) | 08:10 |
| knome | it'd probably sit in lyz's apartment | 08:10 |
| knome | because she visits the most conferences | 08:10 |
| knome | the t-shirts stuff is one idea. | 08:10 |
| knome | which could be nice, because we could then determine which vendor to use for the "official" t-shirts | 08:11 |
| knome | of course that could mean some of us got a bit crappier t-shirts. | 08:11 |
| knome | $300/14 is about $21, so one of those couldn't cost more than that if we wanted one for every team member. | 08:12 |
| knome | well, lyz has a few, so could be 13 easily | 08:12 |
| ochosi | well, for every member that wants one | 08:12 |
| knome | well who doesn't want a free t-shirt that has a logo of a project they love/like enough to contribute to? | 08:13 |
| knome | (contribute to for free) | 08:13 |
| knome | so.. yeah. | 08:13 |
| ochosi | there are ppl who don | 08:13 |
| ochosi | t like t-shirts with logos of whatsoever | 08:13 |
| knome | maybe somebody who doens't wear t-shirts ;) | 08:13 |
| * ochosi is not a huge fan for one | 08:13 | |
| knome | well i'm one of them. | 08:13 |
| knome | but i wouldn't mind a t-shirt with a xubuntu logo | 08:13 |
| knome | or sth along the lines of that | 08:14 |
| knome | well, we could go ahead and ask on the mailing list who would like one. | 08:14 |
| knome | then see if it's doable, and start testing vendors one by one. | 08:14 |
| knome | while it will take more funds, i think we should start with those people who usually would get very high shipping prices | 08:15 |
| knome | to give them that opportuniy | 08:15 |
| knome | +t | 08:15 |
| knome | that of course depends where the shirts are shiped from, and depend on the vendor | 08:16 |
| knome | </monologue> | 08:17 |
| ochosi | :) | 08:19 |
| ochosi | i'm looking at >1 things right now as things piled up in my "absence" | 08:20 |
| knome | heh | 08:20 |
| ochosi | i suggest you add it to the meeting agenda | 08:20 |
| knome | gosh i hate some features of mailman | 08:21 |
| knome | or actually, the lack of them | 08:21 |
| knome | they are minor, but fixing them would make me like it so much more | 08:22 |
| knome | like adding <label>s for checkboxes/radiobuttons | 08:22 |
| knome | bug 266391 | 08:34 |
| ubottu | bug 266391 in GNU Mailman "difficult to use radio and check boxes in admin interface" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/266391 | 08:34 |
| knome | mailing list moderators, do not be afraid to mark that as "affects me" | 08:35 |
| knome | it's now the #3 heat bug. | 08:36 |
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| elfy | wb ochosi | 12:35 |
| ochosi | thanks elfy | 12:46 |
| elfy | knome: if you get 30 seconds ... https://code.launchpad.net/~elfy/ubuntu-manual-tests/1327521/+merge/222425 | 13:31 |
| elfy | or slickymasterWork :) | 13:31 |
| elfy | hi GridCube | 13:32 |
| GridCube | hi | 13:33 |
| GridCube | how you do | 13:33 |
| elfy | awesomely :) | 13:34 |
| elfy | everyone's images are still fubar - not running any calls until that's fixed | 13:35 |
| slickymasterWork | elfy, seeing it now | 13:37 |
| elfy | thanks slickymasterWork | 13:39 |
| * GridCube hugs elfy | 13:40 | |
| elfy | :) | 13:40 |
| elfy | https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Ubiquity/view/All/] | 13:41 |
| elfy | Jenkins says NO !!!! | 13:41 |
| elfy | lol | 13:41 |
| ochosi | elfy: what seems to be the trouble with the images? | 13:44 |
| slickymasterWork | elfy: https://code.launchpad.net/~elfy/ubuntu-manual-tests/1327521/+merge/222425 <- done | 13:47 |
| elfy | ochosi: no idea yet - but it's not new | 13:47 |
| elfy | slickymasterWork: thanks :) | 13:47 |
| slickymasterWork | np, it's a pleasure to be useful to such a nice gentleman | 13:48 |
| elfy | :) | 13:48 |
| ochosi | ok, well let me know if there's something i can do | 13:50 |
| elfy | might be useful to ask in -release what's going on - last thing I actually heard was from cjwatson "cjwatson> I can't vouch for whether the images actually *work* with syslinux 6, but I guess we'll find out" | 13:54 |
| elfy | ochosi: ^^ | 13:55 |
| elfy | though I've got balloons in -qa currently | 13:55 |
| elfy | who's <balloons> well, I can't quite remember really/ <balloons> kernel issue, then some other things | 14:01 |
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| Unit193 | Logan_: And boom, 0.2.0 release: dget https://sigma.unit193.net/source/xfdashboard_0.2.0-1.dsc | 19:47 |
| ochosi | Unit193: ppl aren't used to such a rapid release-series with xfce related projects i guess :) | 20:09 |
| ochosi | (apart from the xfdesktop release spree leading up to 14.04) | 20:09 |
| Unit193 | Indeed not. I was waiting for 0.2.0 since he said it was soon, before I tried to annoy Logan. | 20:10 |
| Noskcaj | Unit193, You should add xfdashboard to pkg-xfce | 20:13 |
| Noskcaj | Although corsac isn't able to upload much ATM | 20:13 |
| Unit193 | Please read scrollback either there or here, we asked him if he wanted it, he didn't really. | 20:13 |
| Unit193 | I put it up on collab-maint in case someone else wants to adopt. | 20:14 |
| Unit193 | ...Along with another package. | 20:15 |
| Noskcaj | Unit193, ok | 20:21 |
| Unit193 | If he changes his mind, feel free to grab it and make the needed changes. | 20:22 |
| Unit193 | (Actually, I think we asked about it and discussed it when you weren't here, give me a sec.) | 20:31 |
| Unit193 | There's the backlog. :P | 20:32 |
| Noskcaj | thanks | 20:33 |
| Noskcaj | in my experience, corsac will let anything xfce related into pkg-xfce as long as someone maintains it other than him | 20:33 |
| ochosi | well that's usually the crucial question, who the hell will maintain software X | 20:34 |
| Unit193 | As long as it's not svn or bzr, I'm fine with maintaining it for a bit. | 20:35 |
| knome | ochosi, tut tut | 20:35 |
| Noskcaj | Unit193, svn. But i'd be willing to help too | 20:35 |
| ochosi | knome: is it a train? | 20:37 |
| Unit193 | Yeah, I know svn even less than bzr. | 20:40 |
| Noskcaj | Unit193, It's pretty much "always online" vcs | 20:41 |
| Noskcaj | It's main issue is the "add" mechanic is pretty dumb | 20:41 |
| knome | ochosi, yes, a train telling you to behave ;) | 20:42 |
| Unit193 | I've also found the power of gbp. >_> | 20:42 |
| Unit193 | knome: It's the Purdue train! | 20:42 |
| knome | Unit193, WWHHHA? | 20:43 |
| ochosi | knome: wait, did i hurt your religious feelings by drawing on the christian concept of "hell" for a comparison? :) | 20:44 |
| knome | ochosi, woah, that's a bit too thick ;) | 20:45 |
| knome | even i wouldn't go that far | 20:45 |
| knome | just think that kind of language isn't needed here | 20:46 |
| knome | (do i ever tell you off in #shimmer?) | 20:46 |
| knome | hmm | 20:48 |
| ochosi | tbh i'm happy you're still the language police here, i wouldn't apply for that job | 20:48 |
| ochosi | feeling some post-xpl relaxation already? | 20:49 |
| knome | there *is* still a way to trigger the window transparency change | 20:50 |
| knome | horizontal scroll | 20:50 |
| * Unit193 turns his mouse sideways. | 20:51 | |
| knome | ahah. | 20:52 |
| knome | easy to trigger on a touchpad that does two-finger scrolling | 20:52 |
| ochosi | knome: yeah, actually happens to my gf from time to time and it's annoying | 20:57 |
| ochosi | if you ask me, there should be at least a hidden option to disable it | 20:57 |
| knome | can definitely agree | 21:06 |
| knome | the current option to disable it includes disabling the compositor... | 21:06 |
| pleia2 | forgot to update the wiki page for our meeting, so just updated Processes page to mention that's a chair responsibility | 23:26 |
| pleia2 | also, as far as money goes, it would be great to print up 14.04 flyers for loco events we do and stuff | 23:28 |
| knome | worksforme, as long as i get approval of the team and the final ACK from ochosi, i'll paypal money by request | 23:29 |
| pleia2 | I think we still have to work on making them line up for printing right though, right? | 23:30 |
| knome | yeah. | 23:30 |
| knome | i shall look at that when... i'm in a place with a printer and some time to sit down | 23:30 |
| pleia2 | well, I'll add the flyer thing to the agenda tomorrow so we can approve it and sort out printer later | 23:30 |
| knome | goodie | 23:30 |
| pleia2 | hm, put under discussion? | 23:31 |
| knome | yep | 23:31 |
| pleia2 | ty | 23:31 |
| knome | that's the section for all new items | 23:32 |
| knome | (and carried on) | 23:32 |
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