[07:38] morning everyone [07:38] * ochosi is back [07:38] Unit193: i think that can't hurt [07:38] my information is quite some time old, but i have to add that i didn't get a reply to my last email yet (from last week) [07:40] ochosi, since you're the XPL, did you get my message about the project funds? [07:48] i read it just now, yeah [07:50] not sure what we do with them though, iirc we never decided on anything [07:56] ochosi, we could just use the money to get xfce devs days off work to finish 4.12 [07:56] heh [07:56] i think that won't suffice [07:56] (just the first thing that came to ming other than merchandise) [07:56] but i'm happy to grab my share of it in this case :) [08:02] what did i miss in my absence? [08:03] ochosi, all the few coins of which some go to paypal fees ;) [08:03] i think we should use them as we would use the ubuntu community funds. [08:04] i even thought we could donate them to that fund, then request stuff for at least that worth [08:04] but it wouldn't make sense. [08:04] yeah, it wouldn't [08:04] otoh, it would get the money out of our hands. [08:04] we'd never know whether we'd get it back [08:04] we most probably would [08:04] does it burden you that much? :) [08:04] but here's the thing [08:04] we could get the amount we asked for AND that money [08:05] not like it's burning my pockets, more like i'd like us to use it now that we have it [08:05] because we've been talking about fundraising and needing money before [08:06] yeah, i mean we have been talking about it in the past, but without a clear result [08:06] the bug-bounty mail didn't really create much "buzz" on the ML, so i'd guess that one's off the table for now :) [08:06] although i'd like to bring it up again at a meeting i think [08:07] i don't mind it, but i don't feel very strongly about pushing for it [08:07] the "promotional material" that we could fund, well, meh, i'm not sure that helps us one bit as a team to make a step forward [08:07] well, not really [08:07] which is why i've proposed stuff like "let's pay for elfy's webcam", which he denied [08:07] bluesabre: i think it's time we look into getting you upload-rights again [08:07] (which is ok) [08:08] yeah, team member infrastructure can be ok i think [08:08] i'm not proposing we all should go and get hardware because we can pay it from the project funds [08:09] but it makes sense to me to cover some running costs of team members [08:09] i guess including flyer printing. [08:09] there isn't really anything >1 people can enjoy [08:09] "enjoy".. [08:10] i mean, even if we bought a huge banner for conferences [08:10] t-shirts for all team members :) [08:10] it'd probably sit in lyz's apartment [08:10] because she visits the most conferences [08:10] the t-shirts stuff is one idea. [08:11] which could be nice, because we could then determine which vendor to use for the "official" t-shirts [08:11] of course that could mean some of us got a bit crappier t-shirts. [08:12] $300/14 is about $21, so one of those couldn't cost more than that if we wanted one for every team member. [08:12] well, lyz has a few, so could be 13 easily [08:12] well, for every member that wants one [08:13] well who doesn't want a free t-shirt that has a logo of a project they love/like enough to contribute to? [08:13] (contribute to for free) [08:13] so.. yeah. [08:13] there are ppl who don [08:13] t like t-shirts with logos of whatsoever [08:13] maybe somebody who doens't wear t-shirts ;) [08:13] * ochosi is not a huge fan for one [08:13] well i'm one of them. [08:13] but i wouldn't mind a t-shirt with a xubuntu logo [08:14] or sth along the lines of that [08:14] well, we could go ahead and ask on the mailing list who would like one. [08:14] then see if it's doable, and start testing vendors one by one. [08:15] while it will take more funds, i think we should start with those people who usually would get very high shipping prices [08:15] to give them that opportuniy [08:15] +t [08:16] that of course depends where the shirts are shiped from, and depend on the vendor [08:17] [08:19] :) [08:20] i'm looking at >1 things right now as things piled up in my "absence" [08:20] heh [08:20] i suggest you add it to the meeting agenda [08:21] gosh i hate some features of mailman [08:21] or actually, the lack of them [08:22] they are minor, but fixing them would make me like it so much more [08:22] like adding