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xubuntu398Hey room00:01
xubuntu398I installed Xubuntu into VirtualBox. At first the resolution was great, but then when I ran the updates, all choices other than 600x800 disappeared.00:02
TravisHello.00:12
knomewelcome00:13
TravisI am having to downgrade my Panasonic CF-29 to 12.1000:13
Travis13 on up makes my laptop act funny.00:13
TravisIf I close the lid, then reopen it, the dumb screen stays black.00:14
Kekaitravis00:15
Kekaithat would be light locker00:15
KekaiDisable it and install the Xscreensaver package00:15
Travishmmm00:15
Travisok00:15
KekaiWhat are you rnning now?00:16
TravisI'm on my Winblows machine right now.00:16
Kekaii mean Xubuntu wise?00:16
TravisI had 14.04 on there til this cropped up.00:16
Kekaiokay00:16
Kekaiits light locker00:17
KekaiGo under prefferences > lightlocker00:17
Kekaiturn it off00:17
TravisWhat actually causes this?00:17
Kekaiits a new program00:17
Kekaithey wanted the lock screen to matcht he login screen00:17
Kekaibecause xscreensaver looks old00:18
Kekaibut it works00:18
Travisaaaaah00:18
KekaiGo under prefferences > lightlocker00:18
Kekai"Turn off"00:18
TravisI will have to reinstall first.00:18
TravisDLing the ISO now.00:18
Kekaiokay00:18
TravisI hate to mention other distros, but even Slacko Puppy does it.00:19
TravisSo, time to tackle my Xubuntu issue, and use it again.00:19
TravisThank you.  I am not the best at the software end of things.  I can assemble a computer like no tomorrow, though.00:20
KekaiInstall Xubuntu then come back00:20
Travisaye.00:20
Travisbbl00:20
gryWhen resuming from suspend it just comes to a black screen; ttys work and I get back in by killing Xorg.00:23
knomegry, did you read the release notes?00:24
gryNo, I did not00:24
Kekaigry: its light locker00:25
Kekaiits an experimental locking program00:25
knomegry, i'd suggest that00:25
knomeKekai, no, it's not really "experimental"...00:25
gryYes, it does not prompt me for username00:25
gryIt is running00:25
Kekaiits still new and has the bug00:25
gryDo I need some shortcut for its password dialog to appear?00:26
KekaiDisable light locker and install Xscreensaver and see if that fix your problem00:26
knomeall software, old and now, have bugs00:26
knome*new00:26
Kekaitrue00:26
Kekailook at the old windows XP00:27
gryI would not want to disable it - it took me a week to upgrade just to get it, and it is nice, because it lets lightdm log people in without having them re-enter their password in the screensaver00:27
Kekaianyone still using it has to have bugs by now00:27
Kekaithey stopped the security updates00:27
knomegry, we have a bugfix on the way for that bug00:28
gryThanks - hope you package it soon. I remember this software is very hard to install, harder than just compiling some00:28
KekaiSorry00:29
Kekaijust trying to help since I ask so much of it myself00:29
gryIt is fine, thank you, I appreciate it00:30
climbNmaintainSo if my fstab file is correct and my drives had no problem mounting prior to rebooting the box, it must be something to do with the way Xubuntu handles the HDD I guess...?01:14
TravisI am back.01:17
TravisLight Locker is not my problem.01:17
TravisI am still having issues with the screen staying blank after reopening my laptop lid.01:18
Kekaidid you install xscreensaver01:24
TravisYes01:24
TravisI can't get it to come back01:25
Kekaihave you tried pressing ESC01:29
KekaiThas what brings it up for me01:29
TravisYes.  It didn't work01:29
Kekaihuh01:29
TravisIt didn't work on my end.01:29
TravisI wish I knew the difference between 12.10 and 14.04, that might cause this issue.01:32
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delt*sigh* neighbours starting arguing/fighting about that phone thrown on the floor thing again....02:07
Poisoned_DragonUm, ok.02:09
deltanyway, if they kill each other, please let my kids know that...uh wait a minute, i'd still be alive, right? and i don't have ki...uh never mind :302:10
Poisoned_DragonMust be the medication wearing off.02:11
TravisKekai:  I get the lock screen on 12.10 when I reopen the lid.02:20
TravisI can log in and get the desktop.02:20
cubed_roothow do i create a 'shortcut' of a folder (in the windows sense of the word) in xubuntu other than ln s in terminal?02:31
cubed_rooti mean: 'ln -s' in the terminal window02:32
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apoc_good morning everyone.. could someone tell me how I can change the background image on the login/lock screen?07:26
baizonapoc_: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/how-to-change-lightdm-login-screen.html07:28
apoc_oh! thanks @baizon i wasn't aware that xubuntu uses lightdm, then it shouldn't be a problem! :P thank you07:30
baizonapoc_: no problem :)07:30
baizonapoc_: well, i hope you ment not an old version of xubuntu07:31
apoc_sweet. worked nicely.. is there a way to change the background on the screen where I enter the key to decrypt my hdd?07:35
gryaw, it looks so pretty at that screenshot07:37
gryI tried to edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter-ubuntu.conf and set a new background but it did not appear and I didn't find any logs...08:37
ochosigry: usually it should pick up your user's background08:48
gryIt does not.08:49
ochosiyou're using xfdesktop to set your wallpaper?08:49
gryIt only shows a black bg.  There are multiple users.08:49
gryDunno. Running xfdesktop returns no output.08:50
gryWhat icon theme is builtin? Even moreso, how do I find it out?09:34
knomegry, try looking in settings manager -> appearance -> icons09:41
knomegry, i also highly suggest reading the documentation, under main menu -> help09:41
knomegry, it has answers to the most common/basic questions09:41
gryknome: I see the icons tab but many of them are broken, because I upgraded from 12.04 instead of clean install. Only Tango is more or less functional.09:48
LuisjaI am about to install xubuntu, dual booting with windows 8. I rezised my W8 partition, leaving it at 70 GB (50GB already used). I am going to use an ntfs partition to share documents, music, etc between both OS using symlinks. Creating an aditional partition for Home is needed, or is redundant?09:51
knomegry, the default icon theme is elementaryXfce09:54
knomeLuisja, it's harder to do a reinstall and keep your filed if you don't create a /home partition09:54
gryLuisja, I would defragment the windows partition first. I would not use separate /home - whatever the default install is fine.09:55
gryAh, interesting point. Reinstall. Thanks.09:56
Luisjaknome thanks!10:03
m14edIS there a Hellen Waite in here ? incharge of complaints ?10:13
knomehuh?10:14
m14edjoshing you is all10:14
m14edteasing/kidding10:14
deshipum14ed: no, this is a community support channel, ran by volunteers10:14
m14edyes deshipu, i realize that10:15
deshipum14ed: please describe your problem and if anybody knows the answer, they will tell you10:15
deshipufor general chatting, joking and the like, please join #xubuntu-offtopic10:15
deshiputhank you10:15
m14edthanks deshipu,,10:16
paolo!ot10:33
ubottu#xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!10:33
grywhen I open desktop settings, the background is reset - known bug or is it my misconfiguration? how do I troubleshoot?10:35
knomegry, sounds like you didn't set your wallpaper with xfdesktop, which is why you have the bug in light-locker as well.10:36
gryhow do I resolve this? I don't know what I'm using if not xfdesktop.10:36
gryknome, ^^10:39
knomeare you running compiz, other desktop managers, or anything like that10:40
gryknome: not compiz and I'm not really sure what others to look for10:41
ochosigry: so are you using stock xubuntu or a custom setup?10:43
grycustom. It started with ubuntu 10.04 probably and I never did a clean reinstall10:43
ochosiso first thing, check your settings manager > sessions and startup > session whether xfdesktop is listed there10:45
gryit is not10:46
grysome green desktop with icons gets loaded by something though10:46
grysorry10:47
grywrong tab - in Session, yes, it is listed10:47
ochosiso when you go to settings manager > desktop, does it show the wallpaper you're seeing on your desktop there?10:49
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xubuntu780hi good morning10:55
m14edo/10:55
xubuntu780this is my first time to xubuntu...10:55
m14edthey'll be  kind to you10:56
m14edtype your question, and somebody will read it , and hopefully , give you help10:57
slickymasterWork!ask | xubuntu78010:58
ubottuxubuntu780: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience10:58
gryochosi: no, it resets11:00
grythe window itself shows black bg and no image settings, either11:00
ochosigry: so obviously you have a problem with xfdesktop and that's why you don't get the wallpaper in the greeter11:06
ochosiso how do you usually set the wallpaper, if i may ask?11:06
ochosialso, try to run xfdesktop from the commandline and see what that gives you11:10
gryochosi: I have wallpaper in the greeter now for some reason. Usually I set a green bg color in settings, desktop. xfdesktop in commandline gives no output.11:20
ochosiwell, color alone doesn't work11:22
ochosigry: ^11:22
ochosithat simply isn't implemented. if you use an image though, it will be picked up (that's a limitation of accountsservice, not the greeter or the desktop)11:22
gryI go to settings, desktop, set the color. It works. I close the desktop settings. I open the desktop settings again. It becomes black.11:23
gryIt is about the usual desktop. Forget about greeter for the moment.11:23
pratzHello guys11:25
pratzskype micro phone is not working for me11:26
brainwashgry: maybe it's bug 131372811:28
ubottubug 1313728 in xfdesktop4 (Ubuntu) "Background color reset to #7f0000" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131372811:28
grywill need to log in and comment, i dont remember any of my account details so it'll take time.11:29
gryis it not supposed to use sso?11:29
gry'Can you also open xfce4-settings-editor and right click on xfce4-desktop and select the monitor option, then launch xfdesktop-settings and see if notices any changes?'11:32
gryI don't parse this comment11:32
gry1. open xfce4-settings-editor  2. right click on xfce4-desktop11:32
gryright click on what?11:32
brainwashon xfce4-desktop11:34
grywhere is that?11:34
gryoh, found it11:34
grystill do not see a monitor option there11:36
brainwashshould look like this http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/_media/xfce4-settings-editor_xubuntu_jaunty.png11:37
brainwashother than that, I cannot test or experiment with xfdesktop right now11:40
brainwashand the maintainer of xfdesktop already commented on the linked report11:40
xubuntu366i am using xubuntu 14.04 & when i select the button to shutdown reboot & shutdown options are greyed out is there a fix for this11:41
brainwashxubuntu366: open a terminal window and run "xfce4-session-logout --reboot"11:42
brainwashit should print some error message if it fails to perform the action11:42
xubuntu366i will say thank you now incase it works11:43
brainwashit's only for debugging purpose11:44
brainwashsadly I have to leave now, hopefully you'll get it sorted11:44
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gry<brainwash> should look like this http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/_media/xfce4-settings-editor_xubuntu_jaunty.png12:23
gryhow do I "select the monitor option" on that screenshot for example?12:24
xubuntu880Hi there,12:27
xubuntu880can anyone please aid me?12:28
xubuntu880I have the last version of Xubuntu installed12:28
xubuntu880but now I bought an SSD12:29
xubuntu880the TRIM is already enabled by default or have I to do some stuff?12:29
xubuntu880thanks in advance12:29
baizonxubuntu880: http://askubuntu.com/questions/443761/how-is-trim-enabled12:30
bazhang!trim12:31
ubottuMany Solid State Drives support TRIM, which allows the drive to do garbage collection and improves performance. Ubuntu 14.04 activates it by default. For older versions, see http://askubuntu.com/a/19480 for information on activating it.12:31
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xubuntu880Thanks baizon12:32
xubuntu880my SSD is a Samsung12:32
xubuntu880so it's defaulf enabled, right?12:33
bazhangsee the factoid above12:33
xubuntu880factoid?12:34
bazhangwhat the bot said ^12:34
xubuntu880thanks12:35
xubuntu880i'm new in this chat, sorry12:35
xubuntu880:/12:35
bazhangnp12:35
xubuntu880Son, in conclusion I do not need to schedule an fstrim for my drive, because I'm using the version 14.0412:37
xubuntu880So*12:37
xubuntu880and my ssd is a Samsung12:37
xubuntu880*EVO12:37
xubuntu880or am I wrong?12:37
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akishi all. i am looking to buy a 32gb sd card for my 12.04 system. can anyone advise me if my system can read Class 10 UHS-I Secure Digital High Capacity (SDHC) or/and Secure Digital Extended Capacity (SDXC) and how can i can be sure about the kind of card i can use and be recognised from my system?15:12
deshipuakis: ubuntu has no problems reading that kind of cards, provided you have the hardware for it15:16
deshipuakis: consult your hardware vendor's support15:17
akisdeshipu: i have an USB Multi Flash Reader plug in to one of my laptop's USB ports. How can i check if it can read 32 gb. It reads 4gb without problem.15:19
deshipuakis: no idea, you probably need to read its manual15:20
deshipuakis: and if the manual doesn't say it, contact the support15:21
deshipualternatively, you could just, you know, try it15:21
deshipubut yeah, I know it's not always possible15:21
deshipubut then again, in most cyvilized countries you can return items to the shop15:22
akisdeshipu: yea, try means buy and if not working loose money! its difficult to return something out of its box! anyway...this multi flash reader has also UBS ports. Does this ides applies for USB alos?15:24
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akisdeshipu: my USB Multi Flash Reader is a Alcor Micro Corp. USB Hub, any idea for this?15:26
akisdeshipu: i called the vendor of the hub and the service support told me that it can read any card or usb stick. Is there any chance that my laptop cannot read this 32 gb card through this hub?15:36
chaser12Morning/Afternoon, I recently switched to xubuntu from standard ubuntu, and when I click any arrow (scroll window arrows etc), it forwards way too far.16:06
chaser12If I use the arrow in the taskbar calendar to next month, it forwards me like 4 years. Anyone able to point me in a certain direction?16:06
chaser12googling so far has been of little help.16:07
Picichaser12: Do you mean that you installed Ubuntu, and then installed xubuntu-desktop?16:11
PiciI wonder if overlay-scrollbar is causing the problem, you could try uninstalling that.16:13
chaser12Pici: that's correct16:13
chaser12Let me look at that and give it a shot. Thanks for the reply16:14
chaser12hmm overlay-scrollbar has already been removed, so that's not causing the issue16:14
Picihmm.16:14
chaser12the worst thing is clicking the arrows in a calendar setting, it forwards several years, similar to as if I was clicking and holding16:15
xubuntu965hi during installation the xubuntu ive chosed to erase all my data and reinstall xubuntu after instalation I wanted to resize the primary partition for boot but it doesnt allow me to resize does it means that it needs LVM?16:45
meek_geekhi17:40
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meek_geekbrainwash, hi17:44
meek_geekCan I use my extra ram to optimize my system ?17:57
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xubuntu564Hello, i am having a problem with a fresh install of xubuntu and not being able to use the keyboard or mouse at login.  arch works fine on my box, and the live usb i have with xubuntu on it works without a hitch as well, any thoughts?18:44
xubuntu564Hello, i am having a problem with a fresh install of xubuntu and not being able to use the keyboard or mouse at login.  arch works fine on my box, and the live usb i have with xubuntu on it works without a hitch as well, any thoughts?18:47
longbonglungfishhey all. i need to file two bug reports regarding xubuntu in launchpad, but i have no idea where to file them, if i explain the bugs, could someone help me out?19:19
holstein!bug19:20
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.19:20
holsteinlongbonglungfish: i say, look and see if there is anything already filed similar19:20
longbonglungfishnothing similar filed yet.19:20
longbonglungfishone bug deals with duplicate titlebars in gtk3 apps under xfce. the other deals with the file chooser in gtk3 apps under xfce not matching the theme (even if it is a gtk3-ready theme). have no idea where / what components to file these under in launchpad19:22
brainwashlongbonglungfish: 1. bug 130187319:25
ubottubug 1301873 in Xfwm4 "Add support for title-less windows" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130187319:25
longbonglungfishdoesn't look like the same bug. no mention of duplicate title bars. here's a screenshot for reference: http://i5.minus.com/iS7enWsFloCjG.png19:27
holsteinlongbonglungfish: feel free and make a new one19:28
longbonglungfishoh shiz. i think it's at-least related. people are just describing it differently, along with other problems. should i file a new bug or just add a comment with links to some screenshots of affected applications?19:29
brainwashwell, add a comment to the upstream report19:30
longbonglungfishwhat about the other bug i mention?19:30
brainwashgot a screenshot?19:31
holsteinlongbonglungfish: same deal.. if you find one like it, try and use it.. if not, make a new one. a volunteer can spend a lot of time just marking duplicates19:31
longbonglungfishyep. here is a screenshot of second bug: http://i3.minus.com/ibxV5Ut371bCpo.png (file chooser in a gtk3 app like abiword), and here's what the file chooser looks like in all non gtk3 apps: http://i3.minus.com/ibx3mYNgCvQkwO.png notice how the icons in the panel are completely different.19:33
brainwashlooks ok19:34
brainwashso, it's not a bug19:34
holsteini dont see anything either19:34
longbonglungfishthe issue is that the icons in the file chooser with gtk3 apps do not match the icon theme like file choosers in all other apps.19:34
brainwashright, but this is the expected look & feel19:35
longbonglungfishit's purely a consistency issue, not a functionality issue. is this normal for gtk3 apps under xfce? definitely not a bug?19:35
brainwashdefined by gnome/gtk319:36
longbonglungfishaccch! gnome 3. got it. what a curse.19:36
brainwashI actually prefer the monochrome look :)19:37
longbonglungfishfor most things i do to. i just like the elementary icon themes that have been shipping with xubuntu. makes browsing through the file system much easier on the eyes for me.19:37
longbonglungfishthanks guys. only filing one report i guess, and adding it in the comments section to the one that seems related.19:42
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hellslingerhi everyone, I'm wondering how to get nautilus to handle automount operations like USB sticks, sd cards, etc. I've changed my default file browser yet it still opens files with thunar20:28
ochosihellslinger: how about uninstalling thunar?20:37
Unit193My guess is thunar is still in daemon mode, and nautilus isn't running.20:38
hellslingerochosi, done that, now nothing happens at all when a new volume is connected20:38
ochosino idea how nautilus handles automount though20:39
ochosinever used it for longer than 5minutes20:40
hellslingerthere is a bug with thunar that is preventing me from using it20:40
hellslingerI'd rather not use nautilus20:40
ochosiwhat bug then?20:40
hellslingerwhen I copy multiple files to my USB drive to replace files at the destination, it only replaces the first file20:40
ochosia-ha, never had that problem20:41
hellslingerif I tell it to replace all or replace one by one, it still fails20:41
hellslinger:(20:41
RobertJDohnertWhats the bug20:41
hellslingerI'm running xubuntu 14.0420:41
ochosiyou're using 1.6.3 though, right?20:41
ochosimkay20:41
ochosinever heard of that before20:41
hellslingerit does prompt me to replace files (or replace all)20:42
hellslingerbut all files but first remain unchanged20:42
hellslingerI have to replace them one by one and that is a bit of a drag... (no pun intended)20:42
ochosihehe20:43
hellslingeryep, Thunar 1.6.320:43
hellslingerif you all think I should file a bug report, I'll be happy to20:46
ochosifirst check bugs.xfce.org and browse thunar's bugs20:48
xubuntu392how can ilaunch the "date and time" settings from the command line?21:12
zr22254hey22:56
knomehello22:56
zr22254hello knome :)22:56
zr22254do you know how can i install skype on xubuntu?22:57
Unit193Enable partner repos, install skype-bin.23:00
zr22254got it23:08
zr22254thanks23:08

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