| soee | good morning | 06:14 |
|---|---|---|
| apachelogger | Riddell: add_subdir duplication should already be fixed | 07:27 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning folks | 10:05 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdelibs/revision/589#debian/patches/kubuntu_add_langpack_path.diff that most certainly is not enough | 10:28 |
| apachelogger | or maybe it is | 10:31 |
| Riddell | works for ubuntu language packs | 10:38 |
| apachelogger | there's stuff other than actual l10n inside though | 10:42 |
| apachelogger | kdelibs5-data: /usr/share/locale/all_languages | 10:42 |
| apachelogger | that file possibly needs relocating as well | 10:43 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: did you test the KCM? | 10:43 |
| apachelogger | because if there are problems with only adding the resource it would definitely show in the KCM | 10:43 |
| apachelogger | kde-runtime-data: /usr/share/locale/l10n | 10:44 |
| apachelogger | const QStringList paths = KGlobal::dirs()->findAllResources("locale", QLatin1String("l10n/*/entry.desktop")); | 10:44 |
| apachelogger | it technically shouldn't cause a problem that it is in usr/share/locale/ but I am not sure reality matches that expectation to be honest | 10:45 |
| Riddell | I /think/ I tested it although I'm not fully sure now under pressure | 10:46 |
| apachelogger | le dangerous | 10:47 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I think at the very least kdelibs and runtime need their install paths adjusted | 10:47 |
| apachelogger | what with continuity | 10:48 |
| Riddell | I don't think anything else was needed for ubuntu language packs | 10:48 |
| apachelogger | yeah, but as I said they are not the same thing as kde stuff also contains desktop files used to describe languages and countries etc. | 10:49 |
| apachelogger | so just because it worked for the ubuntu langpacks doesn't mean it will work just fine for kde-l10n | 10:49 |
| apachelogger | all I am saying is that needs to be QAd a bit | 10:50 |
| apachelogger | and on that note, I'll not have time this week I think, or well, at least not today | 10:50 |
| Riddell | yep, I'll test it at some point, but plasma today! | 10:56 |
| Riddell | this ubuntu online summit lacks a certain something, doesn't even have a logo | 10:57 |
| Riddell | voila http://people.ubuntu.com/~jr/ubuntu-online-summit.png | 11:04 |
| Riddell | whatever would ubuntu do without my genius artwork skills | 11:04 |
| * Riddell blogs http://blogs.kde.org/2014/06/10/ubuntu-online-summit-kde-frameworks-talk | 11:05 | |
| Riddell | "Subject: Your membership in kubuntu-council is about to expire" wibble | 11:10 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: how's the vote for that going? | 11:10 |
| Riddell | morning sgclark | 11:44 |
| sgclark | Riddell: morning :) | 11:45 |
| Riddell | it's plasma beta release day today! | 11:47 |
| Riddell | challenge is to get it all packaged and working in time | 11:47 |
| Riddell | which since we haven't had plasma desktop running at all yet is quite a challenge :) | 11:48 |
| sgclark | Riddell: different from what we are working on? | 11:48 |
| sgclark | Riddell: I am family free now so ready to work! | 11:49 |
| Riddell | dpkg: error processing archive plasma-workspace-data_4.97.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa3_amd64.deb (--install): trying to overwrite '/usr/share/desktop-directories/kde-utilities.directory', which is also in package kde-runtime-data 4:4.13.1-0ubuntu0.1~ubuntu14.04~ppa2 | 12:00 |
| Riddell | hmm | 12:00 |
| Riddell | I wonder what to do about that | 12:00 |
| sgclark | oh my | 12:02 |
| jussi | oh, I guess Im not going to be a councilor anymore... hrm, what havoc can I wreak before I leave... | 12:03 |
| Riddell | jussi: propose a vote to build half a tram line for a billion quid | 12:04 |
| Riddell | ..possible Edinburgh only humour there | 12:04 |
| jussi | Riddell: pfft, I think a vote to send me on a holiday to the carribean would be appropriate... | 12:04 |
| jussi | :D | 12:04 |
| jussi | btw, I still have some ladies shirts left that need to be gone before the 24th june | 12:05 |
| Riddell | jussi: if they need thrown out then you could use your council powers to propose the council pays for them to be sent to deserving people | 12:06 |
| sgclark | jussi: I just took a ladies shirt off your hands :) | 12:09 |
| Riddell | yay! | 12:09 |
| shadeslayer | hi | 12:10 |
| shadeslayer | Sorry, I've been a bit sick these past 3-4 days | 12:10 |
| shadeslayer | getting better now, so how's it going :) | 12:11 |
| sgclark | hi shadeslayer, hope you feel better | 12:11 |
| yofel | shadeslayer resurrected \o/ | 12:12 |
| shadeslayer | just need to keep feeding myself paracetemol | 12:12 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 12:12 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: lemme check | 12:12 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: someone should declare a holiday, because I was resurrected | 12:13 |
| yofel | lol :D | 12:13 |
| yofel | well, today's tuesday, so that's still free | 12:14 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: Actual votes cast thus far: 20 | 12:14 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: you never anwered me about kajongg btw... was that missing files error utopic-only? | 12:14 |
| shadeslayer | Maybe time to bump the mailing list | 12:14 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: ooh wait, did i miss the announcement? | 12:14 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: I haven't closed the poll yet | 12:15 |
| yofel | Riddell: you should've gotten a poll mail... | 12:15 |
| shadeslayer | ^^ | 12:15 |
| Riddell | found it | 12:15 |
| yofel | also: apt is making fun of me :'( http://paste.ubuntu.com/7623225/ | 12:16 |
| Riddell | somehow I'd marked it as read | 12:16 |
| shadeslayer | xD | 12:16 |
| Riddell | gosh, what a choice | 12:16 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: valorie are we doing a kubuntu panel thing at UOS | 12:19 |
| Riddell | isn't it too late now? | 12:20 |
| apachelogger | what do you want to panel about? | 12:20 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: we can still get it in for tomorrow | 12:21 |
| shadeslayer | I don't think it should be an issue | 12:21 |
| * yofel probably won't join unless it suddenly rains. Thinking with a molten brain doesn't work very well | 12:21 | |
| Riddell | I see there is Kubuntu Documentation Team Roundtable June 2014 | 12:22 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: I guess we don't want it, we've already had a meeting this cycle | 12:27 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: ok | 12:29 |
| yofel | !testers | sc 4.13.2 and workspace 4.11.10 for trusty need testing in ninjas | 12:30 |
| ubottu | sc 4.13.2 and workspace 4.11.10 for trusty need testing in ninjas: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley for information | 12:30 |
| Riddell | awooga, thanks yofel | 12:31 |
| soee | ready | 12:59 |
| soee | let me check if i have ninjas here at work | 12:59 |
| soee | nope :/ please send me :) | 13:00 |
| sgclark | Riddell: looks like I was approved for akadamy, do they normally ask for bank details over email? | 13:25 |
| Riddell | awooga | 13:26 |
| Riddell | sgclark: yes they do in my experience | 13:26 |
| Riddell | maybe ask valorie what's happened with her | 13:26 |
| sgclark | hrm ok | 13:26 |
| sgclark | your not working on plassma-workspace still are you? I was going to fix the runtime depends | 13:27 |
| Riddell | sgclark: nope go ahead | 13:29 |
| Riddell | I'm on khotkeys | 13:30 |
| Riddell | sgclark: except I just committed a change to plasma-workspace | 13:33 |
| Riddell | bzr commit -m "remove faulty depends plasma-framework5" | 13:33 |
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| Riddell | sgclark: I just committed some more depends fixes for plasma-workspace | 14:05 |
| sgclark | Riddell: umm thought you said it was ok?? I have made several changes | 14:06 |
| Riddell | sgclark: just merge them in | 14:09 |
| sgclark | Riddell: well it looks like it is the same depends issues I found. but I also fixed a few lintain errors so continuing with my stuff. | 14:11 |
| Riddell | sgclark: go for it | 14:12 |
| Riddell | sgclark: khotkeys is up, could you review for sanity? | 14:17 |
| seaLne | people going to akademy should register https://akademy.kde.org/2014/register | 14:18 |
| Riddell | seaLne: moving to spain first, then I'll work out how to get there | 14:22 |
| seaLne | oh, when you off? | 14:23 |
| Riddell | seaLne: couple of weeks, going to enjoy barcelona for a wee bit | 14:23 |
| seaLne | hope this relocation goes a bit better than the last | 14:24 |
| Riddell | I think I'll stick to bikes only | 14:25 |
| sgclark | Riddell: up where? can't find in bzr | 14:25 |
| * Riddell fixes | 14:27 | |
| Riddell | sgclark: up now at bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging-next/khotkeys/ | 14:28 |
| Riddell | good thing you reviewed it :) | 14:28 |
| sgclark | lol | 14:28 |
| * yofel notes that the watch files should have both unstable and stable URL's | 14:31 | |
| Riddell | can they do that? | 14:33 |
| yofel | see e.g. digikam, that has multiple urls | 14:34 |
| Riddell | cool | 14:35 |
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| sgclark | Riddell: khotkeys looks good to me | 14:42 |
| Riddell | awooga! | 14:43 |
| sgclark | Riddell: boo you got desktop haha. powerdevil just needs new plasma-workspace to verify build. What time is this beta release? or something for me to work on? | 14:45 |
| Riddell | sgclark: still some yellow bits on http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_4.97.0_utopic.html are any of them fixable? | 14:47 |
| sgclark | Riddell: I will double check but as of last night it was all of the soname does not match for all of the kdeinit-* stuff, lintain ignore? | 14:49 |
| Riddell | sgclark: boring things that should be done - re-check the build depends, the frameworks -dev packages got dependencies on other frameworks if they need it so a lot of build-depends won't be needed any more | 14:54 |
| Riddell | sgclark: also check if all the translations get installed, last release they didn't all get installed | 14:54 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: re kajongg, what missing files? | 14:55 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: the qt stuff | 14:55 |
| shadeslayer | ah, no, upstream screwed up | 14:56 |
| Riddell | ** frameworks talk on now http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/meeting/22262/kde-frameworks-libraries-for-all-qt-users/ | 14:57 |
| sgclark | Riddell: ahh ok | 15:03 |
| Riddell | sgclark: if you would rather do plasma-desktop let me know and I'll let you know what I've done | 15:08 |
| sgclark | Riddell: sure :) | 15:08 |
| Riddell | sgclark: I found a bunch of .po translation files that are broken | 15:09 |
| Riddell | http://paste.kde.org/pfx7xpwht | 15:09 |
| Riddell | sgclark: so delete those from the tar and remake the tar | 15:10 |
| Riddell | otherwise it all compiled | 15:10 |
| Riddell | and that's as far as I got | 15:10 |
| sgclark | Riddell: ok | 15:10 |
| Riddell | d_ed: thanks for doing the talk! did you get any questions? | 15:40 |
| d_ed | from KDE people, yes. From anyone else. No. | 15:41 |
| Riddell | hmm, disappointing | 15:41 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: yofel are we using libtiff-dev or libtiff5-dev | 16:40 |
| lordievader | Hello | 16:52 |
| lordievader | yofel: How can I help with testing 4.13.2? | 16:52 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: former I believe... | 16:53 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 16:53 |
| yofel | lordievader: by installing the packages ^^ - do you have access to the ninja repo? | 16:53 |
| lordievader | yofel: If it still is your private ppa then yes. | 16:56 |
| yofel | should be | 16:56 |
| brotoes | Hello all. I am creating an internal APT repository using reprepro and apache2. The distributions config file seems to want a paragraph for every release of ubuntu. is it necessary to add every distribution of ubuntu you want the repo to work with to the file? | 17:27 |
| soee | 4.13.2 uprade - ok | 18:04 |
| lordievader | 4.13.2 upgrade went smooth :) | 18:19 |
| sgclark | Riddell: any idea why? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7624931/ | 18:46 |
| juancarlospaco | Hello ! | 18:47 |
| juancarlospaco | Theres a PPA for Qt5.3 and/or PyQt5.3 ?, or how to install PyQt5.3, or How can I use PyQt5.QtWebSockets because I got PyQt5.2 and it didnt have PyQt5.QtWebSockets | 18:49 |
| juancarlospaco | can you import PyQt5.QtWebSockets ?, Docs says I should, but I cant :( | 18:50 |
| Riddell | sgclark: well can you install libqt5qml-quickcontrols ? | 19:14 |
| juancarlospaco | can you import PyQt5.QtWebSockets ?, Docs says I should, but I cant :( | 19:18 |
| sgclark | Riddell: sorry figured it out, does not exist in utopic. removing for now | 19:20 |
| ahoneybun | seems valorie is going to make it | 19:59 |
| ahoneybun | awesome | 19:59 |
| Riddell | make what? | 20:06 |
| Riddell | sgclark: did you find any more problems in plasma-desktop that might need a tar fix? | 20:07 |
| Riddell | the translations is one | 20:08 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: UOS | 20:10 |
| sgclark | Riddell: I was working on depends to build and I ran into a plasma-workspace mess. The runtime depends seem to not be the same in utopic | 20:10 |
| sgclark | Riddell: we did this originally in trusty | 20:10 |
| sgclark | Riddell: aka plasma-workspace-dev is not installable | 20:12 |
| Riddell | sgclark: not even the latest version in the ppa? | 20:16 |
| sgclark | Riddell: nope. not for me, can you try to rule out a local issue for me? | 20:18 |
| * Riddell starts an ec2 | 20:19 | |
| Riddell | apachelogger, shadeslayer: is the neon5-latest.iso link up to date? | 20:20 |
| Riddell | sgclark: it's libqt5qml-quickcontrols | 20:32 |
| Riddell | should now be qml-module-qtquick-controls I think | 20:32 |
| Riddell | feel free to fix and upload | 20:32 |
| sgclark | Riddell: ok thank you | 20:33 |
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| Riddell | sgclark: new tar http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/plasma-4.97.0/plasma-desktop-4.97.0.tar.xz | 21:07 |
| Riddell | fixes the broken translations | 21:07 |
| sgclark | Riddell: ok thank you | 21:07 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: should be | 21:07 |
| shadeslayer | plz double check | 21:07 |
| Riddell | it's out! http://dot.kde.org/2014/06/10/plasma-5-second-beta-needs-testing | 22:01 |
| kfunk | Riddell: congrats! | 22:09 |
| * kfunk likes the screenshot | 22:09 | |
| shadeslayer | wat | 22:30 |
| shadeslayer | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY2j_GPIqRA | 22:30 |
| shadeslayer | I seem to have found the golden rule, you find the most awesome videos on youtube after 12 | 22:31 |
| shadeslayer | also | 22:32 |
| shadeslayer | wat | 22:32 |
| Riddell | but is it really them? | 22:32 |
| shadeslayer | idk, looks *alot* like them? | 22:33 |
| sgclark | Riddell: ok still have failing po file, remove and remake tar? | 22:43 |
| Riddell | sgclark: which one? | 22:49 |
| sgclark | Riddell: plasma-desktop-4.97.0/po/sr@ijekavianlatin/kfontinst.po | 22:49 |
| valorie | sgclark: I was asked for details by mail, yes | 22:50 |
| valorie | i've not actually gotten the money yet though, unless my bank reports otherwise today | 22:50 |
| Riddell | sgclark: are you sure you have md5sum 5ba08a5c4d07fd7ac260006140d7b4d5 plasma-desktop-4.97.0.tar.xz | 22:50 |
| sgclark | valorie: ok, I responded asking what exactly they need | 22:50 |
| Riddell | ? | 22:50 |
| valorie | there is a faq about wire transfers, and I followed that | 22:51 |
| valorie | basically, your routing number and the bank's physical address | 22:51 |
| sgclark | Riddell: oh hmm it seems not | 22:51 |
| Riddell | sgclark: http://download.kde.org/unstable/plasma/4.97.0/src/plasma-desktop-4.97.0.tar.xz | 22:51 |
| Riddell | is the right one | 22:51 |
| valorie | shadeslayer: I still have not gotten a vote email for the council vote | 22:51 |
| shadeslayer | :O | 22:52 |
| shadeslayer | valorie: is your email addy hidden in launchpad? | 22:52 |
| sgclark | valorie: oh ok | 22:52 |
| valorie | I've been reading my spam folder religiously | 22:52 |
| valorie | I've always gotten votes before, so I don't think so | 22:52 |
| * shadeslayer checks | 22:53 | |
| valorie | spam is so interesting | 22:54 |
| shadeslayer | ✘ shadeslayer@solembum ~/src/kubuntu/kubuntu-dev-tools ./bin/kubuntu-members-email-list | grep -i val | 22:55 |
| shadeslayer | ✘ shadeslayer@solembum ~/src/kubuntu/kubuntu-dev-tools | 22:55 |
| sgclark | Riddell: ok md5sums match! trying again | 22:55 |
| shadeslayer | so yeah, your email is not public | 22:55 |
| shadeslayer | or lp is broken :P | 22:55 |
| shadeslayer | or you're not a kubuntu member :O | 22:55 |
| valorie | pfff | 22:55 |
| * valorie goes to check | 22:55 | |
| shadeslayer | what's your lp page? | 22:55 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: so what's the best way to push tags with tarme? | 22:55 |
| shadeslayer | ah hm | 22:56 |
| shadeslayer | most interesting | 22:56 |
| shadeslayer | valorie: emailery away \o/ | 22:57 |
| valorie | I see the problem: my kubuntu.org was my contact email | 22:57 |
| valorie | instead of my gmail | 22:57 |
| shadeslayer | I've sent it to your kubuntu.org email addy again | 22:57 |
| valorie | oddly, the gmail is what shows when I login, so I was fooled | 22:57 |
| valorie | awesome, thank you | 22:57 |
| shadeslayer | valorie: oh, so did you find the email? | 22:57 |
| shadeslayer | or did I just send you 2 votes? :S | 22:58 |
| valorie | just one | 22:58 |
| shadeslayer | I wonder how I check who's voted and who's not | 22:59 |
| shadeslayer | I should send a reminder email tomorrow | 23:01 |
| valorie | voted | 23:02 |
| shadeslayer | awesome sauce | 23:02 |
| valorie | anybody else notice that kdeconnect no longer works? | 23:03 |
| valorie | update seems to have killed it | 23:03 |
| shadeslayer | O_O | 23:03 |
| * shadeslayer runs away | 23:03 | |
| shadeslayer | valorie: please file a bug report on bugs.kde.org | 23:03 |
| shadeslayer | also, off to sleep I am | 23:03 |
| sgclark | sleep well | 23:04 |
| valorie | okeydokey | 23:04 |
| shadeslayer | nini | 23:04 |
| valorie | sweet dreams, and thanks again | 23:04 |
| valorie | about kubuntu uos: we should have scheduled a session, but I ran out of time or energy or both to do it | 23:05 |
| valorie | a user session, not a devel one | 23:06 |
| sgclark | yeah would have netted useful information I bet. didn't know about uos till today | 23:08 |
| sgclark | alas need more time in a day | 23:08 |
| * Riddell snoozes | 23:11 | |
| valorie | that's one of my problems: not enough time in the day | 23:24 |
| valorie | last few days, lack of drive just adds to that | 23:24 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: hey | 23:25 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: is there a ppa to test Plasma 5? | 23:25 |
| valorie | hi, ahoneybun | 23:25 |
| valorie | http://dot.kde.org/2014/06/10/plasma-5-second-beta-needs-testing has links, ahoneybun | 23:26 |
| ahoneybun | just a iso | 23:27 |
| valorie | right | 23:27 |
| valorie | since neon5 is available, a PPA seems (IMO) dangerous | 23:27 |
| valorie | with neon you are booting into an alternate system | 23:28 |
| valorie | in a PPA, you are modifying your production system | 23:28 |
| ahoneybun | true | 23:28 |
| ahoneybun | I'll try it out in a VM | 23:29 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: so you can make it to the session tomorrow? | 23:30 |
| mparillo | ahoneybun: I am running the PPA for KF5 in a VM. I can use LightDM to switch between stock Kubuntu 14.04 and Neon with KF5. It works great on my regular sized monitor | 23:30 |
| valorie | I've already set an alarm, ahoneybun | 23:30 |
| ahoneybun | sweet | 23:31 |
| * valorie is supposed to be a uos admin, I should at least make it to one of the sessions.... | 23:31 | |
| valorie | you might publicize it a bit, or it will just be you and me | 23:31 |
| ahoneybun | I was at the one today | 23:31 |
| valorie | the one? | 23:32 |
| valorie | I saw David's presentation of frameworks, but didn't attend | 23:32 |
| valorie | I miss real UDS | 23:33 |
| mparillo | ahoneybun: I think I followed the directions here: http://blogs.kde.org/2013/07/31/project-neon-5-daily-builds-ubiquity-wireless-setup | 23:33 |
| valorie | ah, but the daily builds is a bit different than the release of the beta | 23:35 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: went to the one http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/meeting/22305/howto-join-and-contribute-to-ubuntu-communities/ | 23:36 |
| valorie | oh very nice | 23:36 |
| valorie | I missed ubuntu women | 23:37 |
| valorie | :( | 23:37 |
| valorie | afk for a bit | 23:37 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: btw Plasma 5 looks great | 23:41 |
| ahoneybun | I'm guessing there will be a new icon set as well | 23:41 |
| ahoneybun | ? | 23:41 |
| valorie | yes, there is | 23:49 |
| valorie | not complete yet though | 23:49 |
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