[06:14] good morning [07:27] Riddell: add_subdir duplication should already be fixed [10:05] 'Morning folks [10:28] Riddell: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdelibs/revision/589#debian/patches/kubuntu_add_langpack_path.diff that most certainly is not enough [10:31] or maybe it is [10:38] works for ubuntu language packs [10:42] there's stuff other than actual l10n inside though [10:42] kdelibs5-data: /usr/share/locale/all_languages [10:43] that file possibly needs relocating as well [10:43] Riddell: did you test the KCM? [10:43] because if there are problems with only adding the resource it would definitely show in the KCM [10:44] kde-runtime-data: /usr/share/locale/l10n [10:44] const QStringList paths = KGlobal::dirs()->findAllResources("locale", QLatin1String("l10n/*/entry.desktop")); [10:45] it technically shouldn't cause a problem that it is in usr/share/locale/ but I am not sure reality matches that expectation to be honest [10:46] I /think/ I tested it although I'm not fully sure now under pressure [10:47] le dangerous [10:47] Riddell: I think at the very least kdelibs and runtime need their install paths adjusted [10:48] what with continuity [10:48] I don't think anything else was needed for ubuntu language packs [10:49] yeah, but as I said they are not the same thing as kde stuff also contains desktop files used to describe languages and countries etc. [10:49] so just because it worked for the ubuntu langpacks doesn't mean it will work just fine for kde-l10n [10:50] all I am saying is that needs to be QAd a bit [10:50] and on that note, I'll not have time this week I think, or well, at least not today [10:56] yep, I'll test it at some point, but plasma today! [10:57] this ubuntu online summit lacks a certain something, doesn't even have a logo [11:04] voila http://people.ubuntu.com/~jr/ubuntu-online-summit.png [11:04] whatever would ubuntu do without my genius artwork skills [11:05] * Riddell blogs http://blogs.kde.org/2014/06/10/ubuntu-online-summit-kde-frameworks-talk [11:10] "Subject: Your membership in kubuntu-council is about to expire" wibble [11:10] shadeslayer: how's the vote for that going? [11:44] morning sgclark [11:45] Riddell: morning :) [11:47] it's plasma beta release day today! [11:47] challenge is to get it all packaged and working in time [11:48] which since we haven't had plasma desktop running at all yet is quite a challenge :) [11:48] Riddell: different from what we are working on? [11:49] Riddell: I am family free now so ready to work! [12:00] dpkg: error processing archive plasma-workspace-data_4.97.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa3_amd64.deb (--install): trying to overwrite '/usr/share/desktop-directories/kde-utilities.directory', which is also in package kde-runtime-data 4:4.13.1-0ubuntu0.1~ubuntu14.04~ppa2 [12:00] hmm [12:00] I wonder what to do about that [12:02] oh my [12:03] oh, I guess Im not going to be a councilor anymore... hrm, what havoc can I wreak before I leave... [12:04] jussi: propose a vote to build half a tram line for a billion quid [12:04] ..possible Edinburgh only humour there [12:04] Riddell: pfft, I think a vote to send me on a holiday to the carribean would be appropriate... [12:04] :D [12:05] btw, I still have some ladies shirts left that need to be gone before the 24th june [12:06] jussi: if they need thrown out then you could use your council powers to propose the council pays for them to be sent to deserving people [12:09] jussi: I just took a ladies shirt off your hands :) [12:09] yay! [12:10] hi [12:10] Sorry, I've been a bit sick these past 3-4 days [12:11] getting better now, so how's it going :) [12:11] hi shadeslayer, hope you feel better [12:12] shadeslayer resurrected \o/ [12:12] just need to keep feeding myself paracetemol [12:12] :P [12:12] Riddell: lemme check [12:13] yofel: someone should declare a holiday, because I was resurrected [12:13] lol :D [12:14] well, today's tuesday, so that's still free [12:14] Riddell: Actual votes cast thus far: 20 [12:14] shadeslayer: you never anwered me about kajongg btw... was that missing files error utopic-only? [12:14] Maybe time to bump the mailing list [12:14] shadeslayer: ooh wait, did i miss the announcement? [12:15] Riddell: I haven't closed the poll yet [12:15] Riddell: you should've gotten a poll mail... [12:15] ^^ [12:15] found it [12:16] also: apt is making fun of me :'( http://paste.ubuntu.com/7623225/ [12:16] somehow I'd marked it as read [12:16] xD [12:16] gosh, what a choice [12:19] Riddell: valorie are we doing a kubuntu panel thing at UOS [12:20] isn't it too late now? [12:20] what do you want to panel about? [12:21] Riddell: we can still get it in for tomorrow [12:21] I don't think it should be an issue [12:21] * yofel probably won't join unless it suddenly rains. Thinking with a molten brain doesn't work very well [12:22] I see there is Kubuntu Documentation Team Roundtable June 2014 [12:27] shadeslayer: I guess we don't want it, we've already had a meeting this cycle [12:29] Riddell: ok [12:30] !testers | sc 4.13.2 and workspace 4.11.10 for trusty need testing in ninjas [12:30] sc 4.13.2 and workspace 4.11.10 for trusty need testing in ninjas: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley for information [12:31] awooga, thanks yofel [12:59] ready [12:59] let me check if i have ninjas here at work [13:00] nope :/ please send me :) [13:25] Riddell: looks like I was approved for akadamy, do they normally ask for bank details over email? [13:26] awooga [13:26] sgclark: yes they do in my experience [13:26] maybe ask valorie what's happened with her [13:26] hrm ok [13:27] your not working on plassma-workspace still are you? I was going to fix the runtime depends [13:29] sgclark: nope go ahead [13:30] I'm on khotkeys [13:33] sgclark: except I just committed a change to plasma-workspace [13:33] bzr commit -m "remove faulty depends plasma-framework5" === vinay is now known as Guest32449 [14:05] sgclark: I just committed some more depends fixes for plasma-workspace [14:06] Riddell: umm thought you said it was ok?? I have made several changes [14:09] sgclark: just merge them in [14:11] Riddell: well it looks like it is the same depends issues I found. but I also fixed a few lintain errors so continuing with my stuff. [14:12] sgclark: go for it [14:17] sgclark: khotkeys is up, could you review for sanity? [14:18] people going to akademy should register https://akademy.kde.org/2014/register [14:22] seaLne: moving to spain first, then I'll work out how to get there [14:23] oh, when you off? [14:23] seaLne: couple of weeks, going to enjoy barcelona for a wee bit [14:24] hope this relocation goes a bit better than the last [14:25] I think I'll stick to bikes only [14:25] Riddell: up where? can't find in bzr [14:27] * Riddell fixes [14:28] sgclark: up now at bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging-next/khotkeys/ [14:28] good thing you reviewed it :) [14:28] lol [14:31] * yofel notes that the watch files should have both unstable and stable URL's [14:33] can they do that? [14:34] see e.g. digikam, that has multiple urls [14:35] cool === jono is now known as Guest92020 [14:42] Riddell: khotkeys looks good to me [14:43] awooga! [14:45] Riddell: boo you got desktop haha. powerdevil just needs new plasma-workspace to verify build. What time is this beta release? or something for me to work on? [14:47] sgclark: still some yellow bits on http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_4.97.0_utopic.html are any of them fixable? [14:49] Riddell: I will double check but as of last night it was all of the soname does not match for all of the kdeinit-* stuff, lintain ignore? [14:54] sgclark: boring things that should be done - re-check the build depends, the frameworks -dev packages got dependencies on other frameworks if they need it so a lot of build-depends won't be needed any more [14:54] sgclark: also check if all the translations get installed, last release they didn't all get installed [14:55] yofel: re kajongg, what missing files? [14:55] shadeslayer: the qt stuff [14:56] ah, no, upstream screwed up [14:57] ** frameworks talk on now http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/meeting/22262/kde-frameworks-libraries-for-all-qt-users/ [15:03] Riddell: ahh ok [15:08] sgclark: if you would rather do plasma-desktop let me know and I'll let you know what I've done [15:08] Riddell: sure :) [15:09] sgclark: I found a bunch of .po translation files that are broken [15:09] http://paste.kde.org/pfx7xpwht [15:10] sgclark: so delete those from the tar and remake the tar [15:10] otherwise it all compiled [15:10] and that's as far as I got [15:10] Riddell: ok [15:40] d_ed: thanks for doing the talk! did you get any questions? [15:41] from KDE people, yes. From anyone else. No. [15:41] hmm, disappointing [16:40] ScottK: yofel are we using libtiff-dev or libtiff5-dev [16:52] Hello [16:52] yofel: How can I help with testing 4.13.2? [16:53] shadeslayer: former I believe... [16:53] ok [16:53] lordievader: by installing the packages ^^ - do you have access to the ninja repo? [16:56] yofel: If it still is your private ppa then yes. [16:56] should be [17:27] Hello all. I am creating an internal APT repository using reprepro and apache2. The distributions config file seems to want a paragraph for every release of ubuntu. is it necessary to add every distribution of ubuntu you want the repo to work with to the file? [18:04] 4.13.2 uprade - ok [18:19] 4.13.2 upgrade went smooth :) [18:46] Riddell: any idea why? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7624931/ [18:47] Hello ! [18:49] Theres a PPA for Qt5.3 and/or PyQt5.3 ?, or how to install PyQt5.3, or How can I use PyQt5.QtWebSockets because I got PyQt5.2 and it didnt have PyQt5.QtWebSockets [18:50] can you import PyQt5.QtWebSockets ?, Docs says I should, but I cant :( [19:14] sgclark: well can you install libqt5qml-quickcontrols ? [19:18] can you import PyQt5.QtWebSockets ?, Docs says I should, but I cant :( [19:20] Riddell: sorry figured it out, does not exist in utopic. removing for now [19:59] seems valorie is going to make it [19:59] awesome [20:06] make what? [20:07] sgclark: did you find any more problems in plasma-desktop that might need a tar fix? [20:08] the translations is one [20:10] Riddell: UOS [20:10] Riddell: I was working on depends to build and I ran into a plasma-workspace mess. The runtime depends seem to not be the same in utopic [20:10] Riddell: we did this originally in trusty [20:12] Riddell: aka plasma-workspace-dev is not installable [20:16] sgclark: not even the latest version in the ppa? [20:18] Riddell: nope. not for me, can you try to rule out a local issue for me? [20:19] * Riddell starts an ec2 [20:20] apachelogger, shadeslayer: is the neon5-latest.iso link up to date? [20:32] sgclark: it's libqt5qml-quickcontrols [20:32] should now be qml-module-qtquick-controls I think [20:32] feel free to fix and upload [20:33] Riddell: ok thank you === DalekSec_ is now known as DalekSec [21:07] sgclark: new tar http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/plasma-4.97.0/plasma-desktop-4.97.0.tar.xz [21:07] fixes the broken translations [21:07] Riddell: ok thank you [21:07] Riddell: should be [21:07] plz double check [22:01] it's out! http://dot.kde.org/2014/06/10/plasma-5-second-beta-needs-testing [22:09] Riddell: congrats! [22:09] * kfunk likes the screenshot [22:30] wat [22:30] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY2j_GPIqRA [22:31] I seem to have found the golden rule, you find the most awesome videos on youtube after 12 [22:32] also [22:32] wat [22:32] but is it really them? [22:33] idk, looks *alot* like them? [22:43] Riddell: ok still have failing po file, remove and remake tar? [22:49] sgclark: which one? [22:49] Riddell: plasma-desktop-4.97.0/po/sr@ijekavianlatin/kfontinst.po [22:50] sgclark: I was asked for details by mail, yes [22:50] i've not actually gotten the money yet though, unless my bank reports otherwise today [22:50] sgclark: are you sure you have md5sum 5ba08a5c4d07fd7ac260006140d7b4d5 plasma-desktop-4.97.0.tar.xz [22:50] valorie: ok, I responded asking what exactly they need [22:50] ? [22:51] there is a faq about wire transfers, and I followed that [22:51] basically, your routing number and the bank's physical address [22:51] Riddell: oh hmm it seems not [22:51] sgclark: http://download.kde.org/unstable/plasma/4.97.0/src/plasma-desktop-4.97.0.tar.xz [22:51] is the right one [22:51] shadeslayer: I still have not gotten a vote email for the council vote [22:52] :O [22:52] valorie: is your email addy hidden in launchpad? [22:52] valorie: oh ok [22:52] I've been reading my spam folder religiously [22:52] I've always gotten votes before, so I don't think so [22:53] * shadeslayer checks [22:54] spam is so interesting [22:55] ✘ shadeslayer@solembum  ~/src/kubuntu/kubuntu-dev-tools  ./bin/kubuntu-members-email-list | grep -i val [22:55] ✘ shadeslayer@solembum  ~/src/kubuntu/kubuntu-dev-tools  [22:55] Riddell: ok md5sums match! trying again [22:55] so yeah, your email is not public [22:55] or lp is broken :P [22:55] or you're not a kubuntu member :O [22:55] pfff [22:55] * valorie goes to check [22:55] what's your lp page? [22:55] apachelogger: so what's the best way to push tags with tarme? [22:56] ah hm [22:56] most interesting [22:57] valorie: emailery away \o/ [22:57] I see the problem: my kubuntu.org was my contact email [22:57] instead of my gmail [22:57] I've sent it to your kubuntu.org email addy again [22:57] oddly, the gmail is what shows when I login, so I was fooled [22:57] awesome, thank you [22:57] valorie: oh, so did you find the email? [22:58] or did I just send you 2 votes? :S [22:58] just one [22:59] I wonder how I check who's voted and who's not [23:01] I should send a reminder email tomorrow [23:02] voted [23:02] awesome sauce [23:03] anybody else notice that kdeconnect no longer works? [23:03] update seems to have killed it [23:03] O_O [23:03] * shadeslayer runs away [23:03] valorie: please file a bug report on bugs.kde.org [23:03] also, off to sleep I am [23:04] sleep well [23:04] okeydokey [23:04] nini [23:04] sweet dreams, and thanks again [23:05] about kubuntu uos: we should have scheduled a session, but I ran out of time or energy or both to do it [23:06] a user session, not a devel one [23:08] yeah would have netted useful information I bet. didn't know about uos till today [23:08] alas need more time in a day [23:11] * Riddell snoozes [23:24] that's one of my problems: not enough time in the day [23:24] last few days, lack of drive just adds to that [23:25] valorie: hey [23:25] Riddell: is there a ppa to test Plasma 5? [23:25] hi, ahoneybun [23:26] http://dot.kde.org/2014/06/10/plasma-5-second-beta-needs-testing has links, ahoneybun [23:27] just a iso [23:27] right [23:27] since neon5 is available, a PPA seems (IMO) dangerous [23:28] with neon you are booting into an alternate system [23:28] in a PPA, you are modifying your production system [23:28] true [23:29] I'll try it out in a VM [23:30] valorie: so you can make it to the session tomorrow? [23:30] ahoneybun: I am running the PPA for KF5 in a VM. I can use LightDM to switch between stock Kubuntu 14.04 and Neon with KF5. It works great on my regular sized monitor [23:30] I've already set an alarm, ahoneybun [23:31] sweet [23:31] * valorie is supposed to be a uos admin, I should at least make it to one of the sessions.... [23:31] you might publicize it a bit, or it will just be you and me [23:31] I was at the one today [23:32] the one? [23:32] I saw David's presentation of frameworks, but didn't attend [23:33] I miss real UDS [23:33] ahoneybun: I think I followed the directions here: http://blogs.kde.org/2013/07/31/project-neon-5-daily-builds-ubiquity-wireless-setup [23:35] ah, but the daily builds is a bit different than the release of the beta [23:36] valorie: went to the one http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/meeting/22305/howto-join-and-contribute-to-ubuntu-communities/ [23:36] oh very nice [23:37] I missed ubuntu women [23:37] :( [23:37] afk for a bit [23:41] Riddell: btw Plasma 5 looks great [23:41] I'm guessing there will be a new icon set as well [23:41] ? [23:49] yes, there is [23:49] not complete yet though