[06:14] <soee> good morning
[07:27] <apachelogger> Riddell: add_subdir duplication should already be fixed
[10:05] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[10:28] <apachelogger> Riddell: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdelibs/revision/589#debian/patches/kubuntu_add_langpack_path.diff that most certainly is not enough
[10:31] <apachelogger> or maybe it is
[10:38] <Riddell> works for ubuntu language packs
[10:42] <apachelogger> there's stuff other than actual l10n inside though
[10:42] <apachelogger> kdelibs5-data: /usr/share/locale/all_languages
[10:43] <apachelogger> that file possibly needs relocating as well
[10:43] <apachelogger> Riddell: did you test the KCM?
[10:43] <apachelogger> because if there are problems with only adding the resource it would definitely show in the KCM
[10:44] <apachelogger> kde-runtime-data: /usr/share/locale/l10n
[10:44] <apachelogger>     const QStringList paths = KGlobal::dirs()->findAllResources("locale", QLatin1String("l10n/*/entry.desktop"));
[10:45] <apachelogger> it technically shouldn't cause a problem that it is in usr/share/locale/ but I am not sure reality matches that expectation to be honest
[10:46] <Riddell> I /think/ I tested it although I'm not fully sure now under pressure
[10:47] <apachelogger> le dangerous
[10:47] <apachelogger> Riddell: I think at the very least kdelibs and runtime need their install paths adjusted 
[10:48] <apachelogger> what with continuity
[10:48] <Riddell> I don't think anything else was needed for ubuntu language packs
[10:49] <apachelogger> yeah, but as I said they are not the same thing as kde stuff also contains desktop files used to describe languages and countries etc.
[10:49] <apachelogger> so just because it worked for the ubuntu langpacks doesn't mean it will work just fine for kde-l10n
[10:50] <apachelogger> all I am saying is that needs to be QAd a bit
[10:50] <apachelogger> and on that note, I'll not have time this week I think, or well, at least not today
[10:56] <Riddell> yep, I'll test it at some point, but plasma today!
[10:57] <Riddell> this ubuntu online summit lacks a certain something, doesn't even have a logo
[11:04] <Riddell> voila http://people.ubuntu.com/~jr/ubuntu-online-summit.png
[11:04] <Riddell> whatever would ubuntu do without my genius artwork skills
[11:05]  * Riddell blogs http://blogs.kde.org/2014/06/10/ubuntu-online-summit-kde-frameworks-talk
[11:10] <Riddell> "Subject: Your membership in kubuntu-council is about to expire" wibble
[11:10] <Riddell> shadeslayer: how's the vote for that going?
[11:44] <Riddell> morning sgclark 
[11:45] <sgclark> Riddell: morning :)
[11:47] <Riddell> it's plasma beta release day today!
[11:47] <Riddell> challenge is to get it all packaged and working in time
[11:48] <Riddell> which since we haven't had plasma desktop running at all yet is quite a challenge :)
[11:48] <sgclark> Riddell: different from what we are working on?
[11:49] <sgclark> Riddell: I am family free now so ready to work!
[12:00] <Riddell> dpkg: error processing archive plasma-workspace-data_4.97.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa3_amd64.deb (--install): trying to overwrite '/usr/share/desktop-directories/kde-utilities.directory', which is also in package kde-runtime-data 4:4.13.1-0ubuntu0.1~ubuntu14.04~ppa2
[12:00] <Riddell> hmm
[12:00] <Riddell> I wonder what to do about that
[12:02] <sgclark> oh my
[12:03] <jussi> oh, I guess Im not going to be a councilor anymore... hrm, what havoc can I wreak before I leave...
[12:04] <Riddell> jussi: propose a vote to build half a tram line for a billion quid
[12:04] <Riddell> ..possible Edinburgh only humour there
[12:04] <jussi> Riddell: pfft, I think a vote to send me on a holiday to the carribean would be appropriate...
[12:04] <jussi> :D
[12:05] <jussi> btw, I still have some ladies shirts left that need to be gone before the 24th june
[12:06] <Riddell> jussi: if they need thrown out then you could use your council powers to propose the council pays for them to be sent to deserving people
[12:09] <sgclark> jussi: I just took a ladies shirt off your hands :)
[12:09] <Riddell> yay!
[12:10] <shadeslayer> hi
[12:10] <shadeslayer> Sorry, I've been a bit sick these past 3-4 days
[12:11] <shadeslayer> getting better now, so how's it going :)
[12:11] <sgclark> hi shadeslayer, hope you feel better
[12:12] <yofel> shadeslayer resurrected \o/
[12:12] <shadeslayer> just need to keep feeding myself paracetemol
[12:12] <shadeslayer> :P
[12:12] <shadeslayer> Riddell: lemme check
[12:13] <shadeslayer> yofel: someone should declare a holiday, because I was resurrected 
[12:13] <yofel> lol :D
[12:14] <yofel> well, today's tuesday, so that's still free
[12:14] <shadeslayer> Riddell: Actual votes cast thus far: 20
[12:14] <yofel> shadeslayer: you never anwered me about kajongg btw... was that missing files error utopic-only?
[12:14] <shadeslayer> Maybe time to bump the mailing list
[12:14] <Riddell> shadeslayer: ooh wait, did i miss the announcement?
[12:15] <shadeslayer> Riddell: I haven't closed the poll yet
[12:15] <yofel> Riddell: you should've gotten a poll mail...
[12:15] <shadeslayer> ^^
[12:15] <Riddell> found it
[12:16] <yofel> also: apt is making fun of me :'( http://paste.ubuntu.com/7623225/
[12:16] <Riddell> somehow I'd marked it as read
[12:16] <shadeslayer> xD
[12:16] <Riddell> gosh, what a choice
[12:19] <shadeslayer> Riddell: valorie are we doing a kubuntu panel thing at UOS
[12:20] <Riddell> isn't it too late now?
[12:20] <apachelogger> what do you want to panel about?
[12:21] <shadeslayer> Riddell: we can still get it in for tomorrow
[12:21] <shadeslayer> I don't think it should be an issue
[12:21]  * yofel probably won't join unless it suddenly rains. Thinking with a molten brain doesn't work very well
[12:22] <Riddell> I see there is Kubuntu Documentation Team Roundtable June 2014 
[12:27] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I guess we don't want it, we've already had a meeting this cycle
[12:29] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ok
[12:30] <yofel> !testers | sc 4.13.2 and workspace 4.11.10 for trusty need testing in ninjas
[12:31] <Riddell> awooga, thanks yofel 
[12:59] <soee> ready 
[12:59] <soee> let me check if i have ninjas here at work
[13:00] <soee> nope :/ please send me :)
[13:25] <sgclark> Riddell: looks like I was approved for akadamy, do they normally ask for bank details over email?
[13:26] <Riddell> awooga
[13:26] <Riddell> sgclark: yes they do in my experience
[13:26] <Riddell> maybe ask valorie what's happened with her
[13:26] <sgclark> hrm ok
[13:27] <sgclark> your not working on plassma-workspace still are you? I was going to fix the  runtime depends
[13:29] <Riddell> sgclark: nope go ahead
[13:30] <Riddell> I'm on khotkeys
[13:33] <Riddell> sgclark: except I just committed a change to plasma-workspace
[13:33] <Riddell> bzr commit -m "remove faulty depends plasma-framework5"
[14:05] <Riddell> sgclark: I just committed some more depends fixes for plasma-workspace
[14:06] <sgclark> Riddell: umm thought you said it was ok?? I have made several changes
[14:09] <Riddell> sgclark: just merge them in
[14:11] <sgclark> Riddell: well it looks like it is the same depends issues I found. but I also fixed a few lintain errors so continuing with my stuff.
[14:12] <Riddell> sgclark: go for it
[14:17] <Riddell> sgclark: khotkeys is up, could you review for sanity?
[14:18] <seaLne> people going to akademy should register https://akademy.kde.org/2014/register 
[14:22] <Riddell> seaLne: moving to spain first, then I'll work out how to get there
[14:23] <seaLne> oh, when you off?
[14:23] <Riddell> seaLne: couple of weeks, going to enjoy barcelona for a wee bit
[14:24] <seaLne> hope this relocation goes a bit better than the last
[14:25] <Riddell> I think I'll stick to bikes only
[14:25] <sgclark> Riddell: up where? can't find in bzr
[14:27]  * Riddell fixes
[14:28] <Riddell> sgclark: up now at bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging-next/khotkeys/
[14:28] <Riddell> good thing you reviewed it :)
[14:28] <sgclark> lol
[14:31]  * yofel notes that the watch files should have both unstable and stable URL's
[14:33] <Riddell> can they do that?
[14:34] <yofel> see e.g. digikam, that has multiple urls
[14:35] <Riddell> cool
[14:42] <sgclark> Riddell: khotkeys looks good to me
[14:43] <Riddell> awooga!
[14:45] <sgclark> Riddell: boo you got desktop haha. powerdevil just needs new plasma-workspace to verify build. What time is this beta release? or something for me to work on?
[14:47] <Riddell> sgclark: still some yellow bits on http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_4.97.0_utopic.html are any of them fixable?
[14:49] <sgclark> Riddell: I will double check but as of last night it was all of the soname does not match for all of the kdeinit-* stuff, lintain ignore?
[14:54] <Riddell> sgclark: boring things that should be done - re-check the build depends, the frameworks -dev packages got dependencies on other frameworks if they need it so a lot of build-depends won't be needed any more
[14:54] <Riddell> sgclark: also check if all the translations get installed, last release they didn't all get installed
[14:55] <shadeslayer> yofel: re kajongg, what missing files?
[14:55] <yofel> shadeslayer: the qt stuff
[14:56] <shadeslayer> ah, no, upstream screwed up
[14:57] <Riddell> ** frameworks talk on now http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/meeting/22262/kde-frameworks-libraries-for-all-qt-users/
[15:03] <sgclark> Riddell: ahh ok
[15:08] <Riddell> sgclark: if you would rather do plasma-desktop let me know and I'll let you know what I've done
[15:08] <sgclark> Riddell: sure :)
[15:09] <Riddell> sgclark: I found a bunch of .po translation files that are broken
[15:09] <Riddell> http://paste.kde.org/pfx7xpwht
[15:10] <Riddell> sgclark: so delete those from the tar and remake the tar
[15:10] <Riddell> otherwise it all compiled
[15:10] <Riddell> and that's as far as I got
[15:10] <sgclark> Riddell: ok
[15:40] <Riddell> d_ed: thanks for doing the talk!  did you get any questions?
[15:41] <d_ed> from KDE people, yes. From anyone else. No.
[15:41] <Riddell> hmm, disappointing
[16:40] <shadeslayer> ScottK: yofel are we using libtiff-dev or libtiff5-dev
[16:52] <lordievader> Hello
[16:52] <lordievader> yofel: How can I help with testing 4.13.2?
[16:53] <yofel> shadeslayer: former I  believe...
[16:53] <shadeslayer> ok
[16:53] <yofel> lordievader: by installing the packages ^^ - do you have access to the ninja repo?
[16:56] <lordievader> yofel: If it still is your private ppa then yes.
[16:56] <yofel> should be
[17:27] <brotoes> Hello all. I am creating an internal APT repository using reprepro and apache2. The distributions config file seems to want a paragraph for every release of ubuntu. is it necessary to add every distribution of ubuntu you want the repo to work with to the file?
[18:04] <soee> 4.13.2 uprade - ok
[18:19] <lordievader> 4.13.2 upgrade went smooth :)
[18:46] <sgclark> Riddell: any idea why? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7624931/
[18:47] <juancarlospaco> Hello !
[18:49] <juancarlospaco> Theres a PPA for Qt5.3 and/or PyQt5.3 ?, or how to install PyQt5.3, or How can I use PyQt5.QtWebSockets because I got PyQt5.2 and it didnt have PyQt5.QtWebSockets 
[18:50] <juancarlospaco> can you import PyQt5.QtWebSockets ?, Docs says I should, but I cant  :(
[19:14] <Riddell> sgclark: well can you install libqt5qml-quickcontrols ?
[19:18] <juancarlospaco> can you import PyQt5.QtWebSockets ?, Docs says I should, but I cant  :(
[19:20] <sgclark> Riddell: sorry figured it out, does not exist in utopic. removing for now
[19:59] <ahoneybun> seems valorie is going to make it
[19:59] <ahoneybun> awesome
[20:06] <Riddell> make what?
[20:07] <Riddell> sgclark: did you find any more problems in plasma-desktop that might need a tar fix?
[20:08] <Riddell> the translations is one
[20:10] <ahoneybun> Riddell: UOS
[20:10] <sgclark> Riddell: I was working on depends to build and I ran into a plasma-workspace mess. The runtime depends seem to not be the same in utopic
[20:10] <sgclark> Riddell: we did this originally in trusty
[20:12] <sgclark> Riddell: aka plasma-workspace-dev is not installable
[20:16] <Riddell> sgclark: not even the latest version in the ppa?
[20:18] <sgclark> Riddell: nope. not for me, can you try to rule out a local issue for me?
[20:19]  * Riddell starts an ec2
[20:20] <Riddell> apachelogger, shadeslayer: is the neon5-latest.iso link up to date?
[20:32] <Riddell> sgclark: it's libqt5qml-quickcontrols
[20:32] <Riddell> should now be qml-module-qtquick-controls I think
[20:32] <Riddell> feel free to fix and upload
[20:33] <sgclark> Riddell: ok thank you
[21:07] <Riddell> sgclark: new tar http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/plasma-4.97.0/plasma-desktop-4.97.0.tar.xz
[21:07] <Riddell> fixes the broken translations
[21:07] <sgclark> Riddell: ok thank you
[21:07] <shadeslayer> Riddell: should be
[21:07] <shadeslayer> plz double check
[22:01] <Riddell> it's out! http://dot.kde.org/2014/06/10/plasma-5-second-beta-needs-testing
[22:09] <kfunk> Riddell: congrats!
[22:09]  * kfunk likes the screenshot
[22:30] <shadeslayer> wat
[22:30] <shadeslayer> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY2j_GPIqRA
[22:31] <shadeslayer> I seem to have found the golden rule, you find the most awesome videos on youtube after 12
[22:32] <shadeslayer> also
[22:32] <shadeslayer> wat
[22:32] <Riddell> but is it really them?
[22:33] <shadeslayer> idk, looks *alot* like them?
[22:43] <sgclark> Riddell: ok still have failing po file, remove and remake tar?
[22:49] <Riddell> sgclark: which one?
[22:49] <sgclark> Riddell: plasma-desktop-4.97.0/po/sr@ijekavianlatin/kfontinst.po
[22:50] <valorie> sgclark: I was asked for details by mail, yes
[22:50] <valorie> i've not actually gotten the money yet though, unless my bank reports otherwise today
[22:50] <Riddell> sgclark: are you sure you have md5sum 5ba08a5c4d07fd7ac260006140d7b4d5  plasma-desktop-4.97.0.tar.xz
[22:50] <sgclark> valorie: ok, I responded asking what exactly they need
[22:50] <Riddell> ?
[22:51] <valorie> there is a faq about wire transfers, and I followed that
[22:51] <valorie> basically, your routing number and the bank's physical address
[22:51] <sgclark> Riddell: oh hmm it seems not
[22:51] <Riddell> sgclark: http://download.kde.org/unstable/plasma/4.97.0/src/plasma-desktop-4.97.0.tar.xz
[22:51] <Riddell> is the right one
[22:51] <valorie> shadeslayer: I still have not gotten a vote email for the council vote
[22:52] <shadeslayer> :O
[22:52] <shadeslayer> valorie: is your email addy hidden in launchpad?
[22:52] <sgclark> valorie: oh ok
[22:52] <valorie> I've been reading my spam folder religiously
[22:52] <valorie> I've always gotten votes before, so I don't think so
[22:53]  * shadeslayer checks
[22:54] <valorie> spam is so interesting
[22:55] <shadeslayer>  ✘ shadeslayer@solembum  ~/src/kubuntu/kubuntu-dev-tools  ./bin/kubuntu-members-email-list | grep -i val
[22:55] <shadeslayer>  ✘ shadeslayer@solembum  ~/src/kubuntu/kubuntu-dev-tools  
[22:55] <sgclark> Riddell: ok md5sums match! trying again
[22:55] <shadeslayer> so yeah, your email is not public
[22:55] <shadeslayer> or lp is broken :P
[22:55] <shadeslayer> or you're not a kubuntu member :O
[22:55] <valorie> pfff
[22:55]  * valorie goes to check
[22:55] <shadeslayer> what's your lp page?
[22:55] <Riddell> apachelogger: so what's the best way to push tags with tarme?
[22:56] <shadeslayer> ah hm
[22:56] <shadeslayer> most interesting
[22:57] <shadeslayer> valorie: emailery away \o/
[22:57] <valorie> I see the problem: my kubuntu.org was my contact email
[22:57] <valorie> instead of my gmail
[22:57] <shadeslayer> I've sent it to your kubuntu.org email addy again
[22:57] <valorie> oddly, the gmail is what shows when I login, so I was fooled
[22:57] <valorie> awesome, thank you
[22:57] <shadeslayer> valorie: oh, so did you find the email?
[22:58] <shadeslayer> or did I just send you 2 votes? :S
[22:58] <valorie> just one
[22:59] <shadeslayer> I wonder how I check who's voted and who's not
[23:01] <shadeslayer> I should send a reminder email tomorrow
[23:02] <valorie> voted
[23:02] <shadeslayer> awesome sauce
[23:03] <valorie> anybody else notice that kdeconnect no longer works?
[23:03] <valorie> update seems to have killed it
[23:03] <shadeslayer> O_O
[23:03]  * shadeslayer runs away
[23:03] <shadeslayer> valorie: please file a bug report on bugs.kde.org
[23:03] <shadeslayer> also, off to sleep I am
[23:04] <sgclark> sleep well
[23:04] <valorie> okeydokey
[23:04] <shadeslayer> nini
[23:04] <valorie> sweet dreams, and thanks again
[23:05] <valorie> about kubuntu uos: we should have scheduled a session, but I ran out of time or energy or both to do it
[23:06] <valorie> a user session, not a devel one
[23:08] <sgclark> yeah would have netted useful information I bet. didn't know about uos till today 
[23:08] <sgclark> alas need more time in a day
[23:11]  * Riddell snoozes
[23:24] <valorie> that's one of my problems: not enough time in the day
[23:24] <valorie> last few days, lack of drive just adds to that 
[23:25] <ahoneybun> valorie: hey
[23:25] <ahoneybun> Riddell: is there a ppa to test Plasma 5?
[23:25] <valorie> hi, ahoneybun
[23:26] <valorie> http://dot.kde.org/2014/06/10/plasma-5-second-beta-needs-testing has links, ahoneybun
[23:27] <ahoneybun> just a iso
[23:27] <valorie> right
[23:27] <valorie> since neon5 is available, a PPA seems (IMO) dangerous
[23:28] <valorie> with neon you are booting into an alternate system
[23:28] <valorie> in a PPA, you are modifying your production system
[23:28] <ahoneybun> true
[23:29] <ahoneybun> I'll try it out in a VM
[23:30] <ahoneybun> valorie: so you can make it to the session tomorrow?
[23:30] <mparillo> ahoneybun: I am running the PPA for KF5 in a VM. I can use LightDM to switch between stock Kubuntu 14.04 and Neon with KF5. It works great on my regular sized monitor
[23:30] <valorie> I've already set an alarm, ahoneybun
[23:31] <ahoneybun> sweet
[23:31]  * valorie is supposed to be a uos admin, I should at least make it to one of the sessions....
[23:31] <valorie> you might publicize it a bit, or it will just be you and me
[23:31] <ahoneybun> I was at the one today
[23:32] <valorie> the one?
[23:32] <valorie> I saw David's presentation of frameworks, but didn't attend
[23:33] <valorie> I miss real UDS
[23:33] <mparillo> ahoneybun: I think I followed the directions here: http://blogs.kde.org/2013/07/31/project-neon-5-daily-builds-ubiquity-wireless-setup
[23:35] <valorie> ah, but the daily builds is a bit different than the release of the beta
[23:36] <ahoneybun> valorie: went to the one http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/meeting/22305/howto-join-and-contribute-to-ubuntu-communities/
[23:36] <valorie> oh very nice
[23:37] <valorie> I missed ubuntu women
[23:37] <valorie> :(
[23:37] <valorie> afk for a bit
[23:41] <ahoneybun> Riddell: btw Plasma 5 looks great
[23:41] <ahoneybun> I'm guessing there will be a new icon set as well
[23:41] <ahoneybun> ?
[23:49] <valorie> yes, there is
[23:49] <valorie> not complete yet though