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Voyage While using selenium and tomcat with firefox. I am getting HTTP Status 500 - Unable to bind to locking port 7054 within 45000 ms.  Read a lot of posts but not solved. THis only happens when I use tomcat and run my kubuntu desktop by VNC. If I dont do it by VNC but manually the normal way. All goes fine04:51
Jonathan_Ri need speech to text04:53
Jonathan_Rwhat software do i need04:53
Jonathan_Rsince i have a disability, staying vertical for long periods of time is not possible. i need speech to text so that the system will type what i say and perform the functions and commands i give it05:07
Jonathan_Rmost of the software seem to be geared for text to speech. i have installed LiSpeak, jovie, simon and some others05:09
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ahaajeKDE 4.13.1 was not available for Kubuntu 14.04. I see 4.13.2 is released today. Is there any chance it will be available?09:07
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BluesKaj'Morning folks10:05
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Walex2Jonathan_R: that's called speech recognition or dictation software. It will not be easy to find a freeware version of that, but there are probably some commercial packages for GNU/Linux10:44
Walex2ahaaje: are you talking about the unofficial PPA for KDE?10:45
ahaajeNo, I meant as official updates to the KDE 4.13.0 that is in Kubuntu 14:0410:46
yofelahaaje: .1 is in trusty-proposed and will be in -updates in a few days10:51
ahaajeyofel:thanks!10:52
Jonathan_Ryes Walex2 thats correct, it would be dictation/speech recognition. i have simon,jovie and some others installed10:57
Jonathan_Rit seems the simon can do dictation and so forth10:58
Jonathan_Rnow its just a matter of training it10:58
Walex2ahaaje: in theory Ubuntu/Kubuntu versions don't do version updates.11:07
Walex2ahaaje: that's why there are backports.11:07
ahaajewalex2:Not even minor versions like .1 to fix bugs? I seem to recall receiving minor version updates for earlier Kubuntu releases, but perhaps those came from backports11:09
Walex2ahaaje: there is a difference between backported bug fixes and backported versions...11:12
Jonathan_Rapt has distupgrade which allows for what is known as rolling updates/upgrade11:13
Walex2ahaaje: however sometimes Ubuntu/Kubuntu do version updates, but that's the exception. Since for KDE there is a semi official KDE backports PPA, there may be less reason to backport minor versions.11:13
Jonathan_Rthey do come out with new releases, like the next one after this, 14.01 will be 14.0411:14
Jonathan_R14.01 is a LTS where as 14.04 will not be11:14
Jonathan_Rsoyou could download the iso every few months, or just do adistupgrade11:15
Jonathan_Rahaaje, does that make sense11:16
BluesKaj14.01?11:17
ahaajeI wondered about those versions numbers as well - for KDE?11:18
Jonathan_Rthe kde numbers are like the kernel numbers11:19
Jonathan_Rkde 4 is the major release11:19
Jonathan_Rthe second set of numbers are the feature enhancements and improvements along the way11:19
BluesKaj14.10 is LTS11:19
Jonathan_Rthe third set of numbers is for bug fixes11:20
Jonathan_Ryes BluesKaj you are right11:20
Jonathan_Rijust had a dislexic moment there11:20
BluesKajok11:20
Jonathan_Rahaaje, here is what i mean as far as ubuntu is concerned; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseSchedule11:23
ahaajeThanks11:24
Jonathan_Ryw11:26
BluesKajJonathan_R, i was wrong , my apologies 14.04 is LTS ... up too early my brain is still foggy :)11:45
Jonathan_Rlol its ok11:46
BluesKajI should know...tested it for months before official release ...testing 14.10 now11:47
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n03lHey guys, just wondering, is the oxygen-transparent theme not compatible with KDE 4.13?14:52
n03lIs there an alternative14:52
geniiI used to run RH in the mid 90s, around release 5.1/5.2 but after I found the packaging much better in Debian-based distros. RPM was a headache14:57
Riddell** frameworks talk on now http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/meeting/22262/kde-frameworks-libraries-for-all-qt-users/14:57
geniiWhups, wrong channel :)14:58
yoasifquick question -- do you guys know of any way to configure kwin to show the application switcher like gnome3 (mutter)? I want alt-tab to show application icons, and alt ` exactly the same way that mutter15:30
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lordievaderGood evening.16:52
dannyzen`yoasif:  https://www.google.com/search?q=gnome+mutter&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=9jiXU775JurksATZpoDQCw&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAg&biw=1600&bih=760#q=kde+task+switcher&tbm=isch16:58
dannyzen`task switcher should be able to do it ootb16:58
cobracommandwhat are the main advantages of kde, besides personal preference?17:47
lordievaderIt doesn't try to be clever ;)17:48
cobracommand?17:48
cobracommandhow so?17:48
TheFakeazneD525konqueror, rekonq, konversation, k3b, kdenlive, krunner...17:49
TheFakeazneD525you get the idea17:49
TheFakeazneD525but on a serious note17:49
TheFakeazneD525it is very configurable, has a nice UI, consistent look and feel, modularized, relatively stable, and support for many files, protocols, and other stuff17:50
TheFakeazneD525plus, KDE has the most complete suite of programs, such as an IDE, task mangler, runner, DE, WM, painting programs, audio players, Office suite, and more17:50
geniiAlso they are going with Wayland17:51
TheFakeazneD525plus, all KDE programs share a similar look and feel, and with oxygen-gtk, so do GTK programs17:51
TheFakeazneD525plus, KDE itself is cross platform17:51
TheFakeazneD525eg, http://windows.kde.org and http://osx.kde.org17:51
cobracommandThank you TheFakeazneD525.  Still confused about what lordievader wrote.17:52
lordievadercobracommand: I'm of the opinion that Unity and Gnome are trying to be clever.17:52
TheFakeazneD525lordievader, the naming convention17:52
TheFakeazneD525er, cobracommand , naming conventions of KDE are very simple17:52
TheFakeazneD525just shoehorn in a "K" somewhere,17:52
lordievadercobracommand: "Hey your pc supports standby, instead of shutdown you probably mean standby. I'll just hide shutdown" -gnome317:52
TheFakeazneD525:P17:53
lordievaderTheFakeazneD525: Naming convention?17:53
TheFakeazneD525lordievader, I meant to highlight cobracommand17:53
TheFakeazneD525Hmm, cobracommand to give one drawback of KDE17:53
TheFakeazneD525it is somewhat heavier than other desktop environments17:54
TheFakeazneD525But it should run fine on most computers17:54
TheFakeazneD525I ran it on a very weak computer, and it didn't cause too many problems17:54
TheFakeazneD525cobracommand, you could try Netrunner-OS standard17:56
TheFakeazneD525it's based off of Kubuntu, with some upgrades17:56
cobracommandI'm such a newb I thought I was using gnome, I didn't realize the default was unity.  I thought unity and gnome were the same thing17:57
TheFakeazneD525cobracommand, unity is somewhat of a fork of GNOME, due to some issues between the GNOME project and Canonical17:57
lordievaderUnity is based on gnome, forgot if it was 2 or 3.17:58
TheFakeazneD525plus, Unity might switch to Qt too... seeing as Ubuntu touch's version of Unity is Qt based17:58
TheFakeazneD525And, it will have support for Mir, Canonical's display server17:58
dentonkiyololo18:07
dentonkiyHello people18:09
dentonkiyIm new in here18:10
dentonkiyЕсть Русские?18:10
singingstrings I see in KDE that dolphin file manager does not show .jpg thumb previews for a network location. Does anyone know where the setting is to show network location image thumbnail previews?18:11
* TheFakeazneD525 shrugs18:12
lordievader!ru | dentonkiy18:13
ubottudentonkiy: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.18:13
dentonkiyThanks18:13
SternNLHi all, question. My out of the box Kubuntu doesn't display Korean characters. Also do characters sometimes display as a filled rectangle. When I mouse over its gone. Any ideas?18:20
TheFakeazneD525SternNL, you should try installing the locale18:23
TheFakeazneD525I'm not on Kubuntu ATM, but it should be in systemsettings under language18:23
SternNLI don't want to switch my interface language to Korean. It's just Korean characters in my browser are shown as rectangles.18:24
geniiIs it Firefox?18:25
lordievaderSternNL: Does your browser use utf?18:25
SternNLYes it is18:25
SternNLJapanese is showing fine18:26
SternNLSo I guess it's UTF capable18:26
SternNLChecked it is on Unicode18:28
geniiSternNL: Do you have a site I could look at where this might be happening?18:32
SternNLko.wikipedia.org18:32
Walex2SternNL: you don't have a font capable of displaying Korean in your chosen encoding.18:43
SternNLDoes the page display fine at your end?18:46
SternNLI use the default Ubuntu font18:46
Walex2SternNL: your choice....18:46
SternNLYou have a better option?18:48
Rocco_666Hello18:52
Walex2SternNL: I do.18:53
SternNLWould you be so nice to share it with me?18:53
Rocco_666can i run kubuntu- KDE 4.8 on a pentium4  1.2gb ram and 128 video memory? , Thanks18:53
Walex2SternNL: there are probably several HOWTOs on how to choose the right encoding and fonts for Hangul on the web, including the Ubuntu/Kubuntu ones probably18:54
Walex2SternNL: I personally use Arial for web font has it has a very large coverage of Unicode.18:54
Walex2SternNL: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KoreanTeam18:55
SternNLThanks18:56
Walex2SternNL: there is also a channel on Freenode called #Ubuntu-KO18:56
Walex2SternNL: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Microsoft_Fonts18:56
BluesKajRocco_666, yes, KDE should run fine with those specs18:57
Rocco_666oh, thanks BluesKaj18:57
Walex2Rocco_666: but you may need to tone down a bit some of the more advanced tricks, mostly to save memory.18:57
SternNLSeems like my out of the box system has some font issues. Perhaps corruption. On a fresh gnome-ubuntu install Ubuntu shows ok.18:57
Walex2SternNL: 'sudo fc-cache' should solve most of them18:58
Rocco_666like? Walex218:58
Walex2SternNL: reinstalling the fonts packages.18:58
Rocco_666akonadi, nepomuk?18:58
rbergRocco_666: I would also turn down the fancy graphic effects18:59
Walex2Rocco_666: Strigi first, then nepomuk. Akonadi is not too bad, but it monitors a bit too much. And the fancier graph.ics effects as <rberg> says can take a fair bit of memory18:59
Rocco_666ok, got it rberg18:59
Rocco_666thanks folks19:00
Rocco_666i love KDE19:00
Walex2Rocco_666: if you can spare a bit of money buying even a small (60GB, 120GB) flash SSD can speed up things a lot19:00
SternNLWalex2: gonna try that19:00
Rocco_666on my quadcore machine runs like a dream but i want kde on my old box too xD19:00
Rocco_666ok, a ssd...19:00
Walex2Rocco_666: I have found that the main consumption of memory is from too many web browser tabs. I just realized that I have "accidentally" opened 700 and that is nearly too much for 8GiB of RAM.19:01
Walex2Rocco_666: for SSD I like Micron, Toshiba.19:02
Walex2Rocco_666: on a 60GB SSD you can easily fit the "/" filetree and a swap space and probably your home directory too.19:02
Rocco_666let me google some...19:02
Walex2Rocco_666: with flash SSD leaving a bit unused improves their durability a lot.19:03
Walex2flash SSD can really improve the responsiveness of an older system19:03
Rocco_666amazing, im just a noob...19:04
Walex2BTW buying a top of the line one is pointless on an older system because they are limited by the speed of a SATA or SATA2 connection. What matters is the much faster random access.19:04
Rocco_666hmm, i see19:05
Walex2like a Crucial M500 instead of a Crucial M55019:06
Rocco_666maybe an old* version of kde...19:06
Rocco_666kubuntu 12.04- KDE 4.819:07
Rocco_666?19:07
Walex2Rocco_666: recent versions of KDE4 are pretty good.19:07
Walex2Rocco_666: that is still pretty good.19:07
Rocco_666yeah, im running 4.13 on my laptop19:07
Walex2Rocco_666: if you use the KDE PPA backports you can install it on 12.04 LTS too.19:07
Rocco_666NICE19:07
Rocco_666:)19:08
Rocco_666gotta go,, thanks for the info folks, o/19:10
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lunifehello,is kubuntu-ppa an oficial ppa supported and maintained by kubuntu developers?20:23
bprompt!kubuntu-ppa20:24
bpromptlunife:    https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa   <--- seems so, yes20:24
lunifeok and is it better to have only kubuntu ppa and no ubuntu repositories for updates or is it ok to have both?20:27
bpromptshouldn't matter, kubuntu is just ubuntu using kde desktop manager and window manager, as opposed to using Unity, still ubuntu though20:28
lunifei've asked because i'm using both the official ubuntu repositories and kubuntu ppa20:30
lunifethank you for your answers bprompt20:30
bpromptnp20:30
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citizenOk, having a serious sound issue...apparently notification sounds volume keeps getting reset to 100% after every alert. How2fix without in-depth knowledge of patching or rewriting .cfg files?22:20
citizen*crickets*22:23
citizenWell...this channel is f'ing useless. :\22:26

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