[04:51] <Voyage>  While using selenium and tomcat with firefox. I am getting HTTP Status 500 - Unable to bind to locking port 7054 within 45000 ms.  Read a lot of posts but not solved. THis only happens when I use tomcat and run my kubuntu desktop by VNC. If I dont do it by VNC but manually the normal way. All goes fine
[04:53] <Jonathan_R> i need speech to text
[04:53] <Jonathan_R> what software do i need
[05:07] <Jonathan_R> since i have a disability, staying vertical for long periods of time is not possible. i need speech to text so that the system will type what i say and perform the functions and commands i give it
[05:09] <Jonathan_R> most of the software seem to be geared for text to speech. i have installed LiSpeak, jovie, simon and some others
[09:07] <ahaaje> KDE 4.13.1 was not available for Kubuntu 14.04. I see 4.13.2 is released today. Is there any chance it will be available?
[10:05] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[10:44] <Walex2> Jonathan_R: that's called speech recognition or dictation software. It will not be easy to find a freeware version of that, but there are probably some commercial packages for GNU/Linux
[10:45] <Walex2> ahaaje: are you talking about the unofficial PPA for KDE?
[10:46] <ahaaje> No, I meant as official updates to the KDE 4.13.0 that is in Kubuntu 14:04
[10:51] <yofel> ahaaje: .1 is in trusty-proposed and will be in -updates in a few days
[10:52] <ahaaje> yofel:thanks!
[10:57] <Jonathan_R> yes Walex2 thats correct, it would be dictation/speech recognition. i have simon,jovie and some others installed
[10:58] <Jonathan_R> it seems the simon can do dictation and so forth
[10:58] <Jonathan_R> now its just a matter of training it
[11:07] <Walex2> ahaaje: in theory Ubuntu/Kubuntu versions don't do version updates.
[11:07] <Walex2> ahaaje: that's why there are backports.
[11:09] <ahaaje> walex2:Not even minor versions like .1 to fix bugs? I seem to recall receiving minor version updates for earlier Kubuntu releases, but perhaps those came from backports
[11:12] <Walex2> ahaaje: there is a difference between backported bug fixes and backported versions...
[11:13] <Jonathan_R> apt has distupgrade which allows for what is known as rolling updates/upgrade
[11:13] <Walex2> ahaaje: however sometimes Ubuntu/Kubuntu do version updates, but that's the exception. Since for KDE there is a semi official KDE backports PPA, there may be less reason to backport minor versions.
[11:14] <Jonathan_R> they do come out with new releases, like the next one after this, 14.01 will be 14.04
[11:14] <Jonathan_R> 14.01 is a LTS where as 14.04 will not be
[11:15] <Jonathan_R> soyou could download the iso every few months, or just do adistupgrade
[11:16] <Jonathan_R> ahaaje, does that make sense
[11:17] <BluesKaj> 14.01?
[11:18] <ahaaje> I wondered about those versions numbers as well - for KDE?
[11:19] <Jonathan_R> the kde numbers are like the kernel numbers
[11:19] <Jonathan_R> kde 4 is the major release
[11:19] <Jonathan_R> the second set of numbers are the feature enhancements and improvements along the way
[11:19] <BluesKaj> 14.10 is LTS
[11:20] <Jonathan_R> the third set of numbers is for bug fixes
[11:20] <Jonathan_R> yes BluesKaj you are right
[11:20] <Jonathan_R> ijust had a dislexic moment there
[11:20] <BluesKaj> ok
[11:23] <Jonathan_R> ahaaje, here is what i mean as far as ubuntu is concerned; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseSchedule
[11:24] <ahaaje> Thanks
[11:26] <Jonathan_R> yw
[11:45] <BluesKaj> Jonathan_R, i was wrong , my apologies 14.04 is LTS ... up too early my brain is still foggy :)
[11:46] <Jonathan_R> lol its ok
[11:47] <BluesKaj> I should know...tested it for months before official release ...testing 14.10 now
[14:52] <n03l> Hey guys, just wondering, is the oxygen-transparent theme not compatible with KDE 4.13?
[14:52] <n03l> Is there an alternative
[14:57] <genii> I used to run RH in the mid 90s, around release 5.1/5.2 but after I found the packaging much better in Debian-based distros. RPM was a headache
[14:57] <Riddell> ** frameworks talk on now http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/meeting/22262/kde-frameworks-libraries-for-all-qt-users/
[14:58] <genii> Whups, wrong channel :)
[15:30] <yoasif> quick question -- do you guys know of any way to configure kwin to show the application switcher like gnome3 (mutter)? I want alt-tab to show application icons, and alt ` exactly the same way that mutter
[16:52] <lordievader> Good evening.
[16:58] <dannyzen`> yoasif:  https://www.google.com/search?q=gnome+mutter&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=9jiXU775JurksATZpoDQCw&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAg&biw=1600&bih=760#q=kde+task+switcher&tbm=isch
[16:58] <dannyzen`> task switcher should be able to do it ootb
[17:47] <cobracommand> what are the main advantages of kde, besides personal preference?
[17:48] <lordievader> It doesn't try to be clever ;)
[17:48] <cobracommand> ?
[17:48] <cobracommand> how so?
[17:49] <TheFakeazneD525> konqueror, rekonq, konversation, k3b, kdenlive, krunner...
[17:49] <TheFakeazneD525> you get the idea
[17:49] <TheFakeazneD525> but on a serious note
[17:50] <TheFakeazneD525> it is very configurable, has a nice UI, consistent look and feel, modularized, relatively stable, and support for many files, protocols, and other stuff
[17:50] <TheFakeazneD525> plus, KDE has the most complete suite of programs, such as an IDE, task mangler, runner, DE, WM, painting programs, audio players, Office suite, and more
[17:51] <genii> Also they are going with Wayland
[17:51] <TheFakeazneD525> plus, all KDE programs share a similar look and feel, and with oxygen-gtk, so do GTK programs
[17:51] <TheFakeazneD525> plus, KDE itself is cross platform
[17:51] <TheFakeazneD525> eg, http://windows.kde.org and http://osx.kde.org
[17:52] <cobracommand> Thank you TheFakeazneD525.  Still confused about what lordievader wrote.
[17:52] <lordievader> cobracommand: I'm of the opinion that Unity and Gnome are trying to be clever.
[17:52] <TheFakeazneD525> lordievader, the naming convention
[17:52] <TheFakeazneD525> er, cobracommand , naming conventions of KDE are very simple
[17:52] <TheFakeazneD525> just shoehorn in a "K" somewhere,
[17:52] <lordievader> cobracommand: "Hey your pc supports standby, instead of shutdown you probably mean standby. I'll just hide shutdown" -gnome3
[17:53] <TheFakeazneD525> :P
[17:53] <lordievader> TheFakeazneD525: Naming convention?
[17:53] <TheFakeazneD525> lordievader, I meant to highlight cobracommand
[17:53] <TheFakeazneD525> Hmm, cobracommand to give one drawback of KDE
[17:54] <TheFakeazneD525> it is somewhat heavier than other desktop environments
[17:54] <TheFakeazneD525> But it should run fine on most computers
[17:54] <TheFakeazneD525> I ran it on a very weak computer, and it didn't cause too many problems
[17:56] <TheFakeazneD525> cobracommand, you could try Netrunner-OS standard
[17:56] <TheFakeazneD525> it's based off of Kubuntu, with some upgrades
[17:57] <cobracommand> I'm such a newb I thought I was using gnome, I didn't realize the default was unity.  I thought unity and gnome were the same thing
[17:57] <TheFakeazneD525> cobracommand, unity is somewhat of a fork of GNOME, due to some issues between the GNOME project and Canonical
[17:58] <lordievader> Unity is based on gnome, forgot if it was 2 or 3.
[17:58] <TheFakeazneD525> plus, Unity might switch to Qt too... seeing as Ubuntu touch's version of Unity is Qt based
[17:58] <TheFakeazneD525> And, it will have support for Mir, Canonical's display server
[18:07] <dentonkiy> ololo
[18:09] <dentonkiy> Hello people
[18:10] <dentonkiy> Im new in here
[18:10] <dentonkiy> Есть Русские?
[18:11] <singingstrings>  I see in KDE that dolphin file manager does not show .jpg thumb previews for a network location. Does anyone know where the setting is to show network location image thumbnail previews?
[18:12]  * TheFakeazneD525 shrugs
[18:13] <lordievader> !ru | dentonkiy
[18:13] <dentonkiy> Thanks
[18:20] <SternNL> Hi all, question. My out of the box Kubuntu doesn't display Korean characters. Also do characters sometimes display as a filled rectangle. When I mouse over its gone. Any ideas?
[18:23] <TheFakeazneD525> SternNL, you should try installing the locale
[18:23] <TheFakeazneD525> I'm not on Kubuntu ATM, but it should be in systemsettings under language
[18:24] <SternNL> I don't want to switch my interface language to Korean. It's just Korean characters in my browser are shown as rectangles.
[18:25] <genii> Is it Firefox?
[18:25] <lordievader> SternNL: Does your browser use utf?
[18:25] <SternNL> Yes it is
[18:26] <SternNL> Japanese is showing fine
[18:26] <SternNL> So I guess it's UTF capable
[18:28] <SternNL> Checked it is on Unicode
[18:32] <genii> SternNL: Do you have a site I could look at where this might be happening?
[18:32] <SternNL> ko.wikipedia.org
[18:43] <Walex2> SternNL: you don't have a font capable of displaying Korean in your chosen encoding.
[18:46] <SternNL> Does the page display fine at your end?
[18:46] <SternNL> I use the default Ubuntu font
[18:46] <Walex2> SternNL: your choice....
[18:48] <SternNL> You have a better option?
[18:52] <Rocco_666> Hello
[18:53] <Walex2> SternNL: I do.
[18:53] <SternNL> Would you be so nice to share it with me?
[18:53] <Rocco_666> can i run kubuntu- KDE 4.8 on a pentium4  1.2gb ram and 128 video memory? , Thanks
[18:54] <Walex2> SternNL: there are probably several HOWTOs on how to choose the right encoding and fonts for Hangul on the web, including the Ubuntu/Kubuntu ones probably
[18:54] <Walex2> SternNL: I personally use Arial for web font has it has a very large coverage of Unicode.
[18:55] <Walex2> SternNL: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KoreanTeam
[18:56] <SternNL> Thanks
[18:56] <Walex2> SternNL: there is also a channel on Freenode called #Ubuntu-KO
[18:56] <Walex2> SternNL: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Microsoft_Fonts
[18:57] <BluesKaj> Rocco_666, yes, KDE should run fine with those specs
[18:57] <Rocco_666> oh, thanks BluesKaj
[18:57] <Walex2> Rocco_666: but you may need to tone down a bit some of the more advanced tricks, mostly to save memory.
[18:57] <SternNL> Seems like my out of the box system has some font issues. Perhaps corruption. On a fresh gnome-ubuntu install Ubuntu shows ok.
[18:58] <Walex2> SternNL: 'sudo fc-cache' should solve most of them
[18:58] <Rocco_666> like? Walex2
[18:58] <Walex2> SternNL: reinstalling the fonts packages.
[18:58] <Rocco_666> akonadi, nepomuk?
[18:59] <rberg> Rocco_666: I would also turn down the fancy graphic effects
[18:59] <Walex2> Rocco_666: Strigi first, then nepomuk. Akonadi is not too bad, but it monitors a bit too much. And the fancier graph.ics effects as <rberg> says can take a fair bit of memory
[18:59] <Rocco_666> ok, got it rberg
[19:00] <Rocco_666> thanks folks
[19:00] <Rocco_666> i love KDE
[19:00] <Walex2> Rocco_666: if you can spare a bit of money buying even a small (60GB, 120GB) flash SSD can speed up things a lot
[19:00] <SternNL> Walex2: gonna try that
[19:00] <Rocco_666> on my quadcore machine runs like a dream but i want kde on my old box too xD
[19:00] <Rocco_666> ok, a ssd...
[19:01] <Walex2> Rocco_666: I have found that the main consumption of memory is from too many web browser tabs. I just realized that I have "accidentally" opened 700 and that is nearly too much for 8GiB of RAM.
[19:02] <Walex2> Rocco_666: for SSD I like Micron, Toshiba.
[19:02] <Walex2> Rocco_666: on a 60GB SSD you can easily fit the "/" filetree and a swap space and probably your home directory too.
[19:02] <Rocco_666> let me google some...
[19:03] <Walex2> Rocco_666: with flash SSD leaving a bit unused improves their durability a lot.
[19:03] <Walex2> flash SSD can really improve the responsiveness of an older system
[19:04] <Rocco_666> amazing, im just a noob...
[19:04] <Walex2> BTW buying a top of the line one is pointless on an older system because they are limited by the speed of a SATA or SATA2 connection. What matters is the much faster random access.
[19:05] <Rocco_666> hmm, i see
[19:06] <Walex2> like a Crucial M500 instead of a Crucial M550
[19:06] <Rocco_666> maybe an old* version of kde...
[19:07] <Rocco_666> kubuntu 12.04- KDE 4.8
[19:07] <Rocco_666> ?
[19:07] <Walex2> Rocco_666: recent versions of KDE4 are pretty good.
[19:07] <Walex2> Rocco_666: that is still pretty good.
[19:07] <Rocco_666> yeah, im running 4.13 on my laptop
[19:07] <Walex2> Rocco_666: if you use the KDE PPA backports you can install it on 12.04 LTS too.
[19:07] <Rocco_666> NICE
[19:08] <Rocco_666> :)
[19:10] <Rocco_666> gotta go,, thanks for the info folks, o/
[20:23] <lunife> hello,is kubuntu-ppa an oficial ppa supported and maintained by kubuntu developers?
[20:24] <bprompt> !kubuntu-ppa
[20:24] <bprompt> lunife:    https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa   <--- seems so, yes
[20:27] <lunife> ok and is it better to have only kubuntu ppa and no ubuntu repositories for updates or is it ok to have both?
[20:28] <bprompt> shouldn't matter, kubuntu is just ubuntu using kde desktop manager and window manager, as opposed to using Unity, still ubuntu though
[20:30] <lunife> i've asked because i'm using both the official ubuntu repositories and kubuntu ppa
[20:30] <lunife> thank you for your answers bprompt
[20:30] <bprompt> np
[22:20] <citizen> Ok, having a serious sound issue...apparently notification sounds volume keeps getting reset to 100% after every alert. How2fix without in-depth knowledge of patching or rewriting .cfg files?
[22:23] <citizen> *crickets*
[22:26] <citizen> Well...this channel is f'ing useless. :\