[00:42] rsalveti, jenkins is down for maintenance, should be back soon though [02:04] === trainguard: IMAGE 76 building (started: 20140610 02:05) === [03:17] rsalveti, sorry about that, had an absurdly long phone call. you're in silo 18 now [03:29] === trainguard: IMAGE 76 DONE (finished: 20140610 03:30) === [03:30] === changelog: http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/76.changes === [08:00] ricmm: hi! I see your silo has some problems building certain archs [08:01] ricmm: is that on your radar? [08:34] sil2100: sure, but that was last night [08:34] sil2100: if you see again, you'll see they rebuilt 9 hours ago [08:35] the remaining failing arches are not published in the archive for any of the pkgs [08:43] sil2100, looks like to dropped [08:44] Ugh [08:44] Wifi died for a moment :o [08:47] Ok guys, this wifi madness is making me unable to hear any of you [08:47] So I drop off from hangouts [08:48] sil2100, well, you know where to look for the changelog :) [08:48] ogra_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7622470/ [08:55] congratulations sil2100 [08:55] https://twitter.com/ubuntudev/status/476286376485593089 [08:56] Thank you! [08:56] Damn, sucks that I don't have tweeter ;p [08:57] * sil2100 is like a caveman from the stone age [09:00] OOOOHH ! [09:00] congrats !!! [09:07] sil2100: congrats! [09:07] Thanks guys ;) [09:10] ogra_, what partitions are mounted in recovery mode? [09:15] Holy crap, just went to my balcony for a moment and it's hot like hell outside [09:16] Mirv: ping? [09:16] mandel, just / and /cache by default iirc [09:17] ogra_, so I can do a adb push of resize2fs (static one) to /cache or / correct? [09:17] Mirv: the new qtwebkit seems fine for old webapps overall [09:17] ogra_, I want to resize the system partition :) [09:17] Mirv: do you have a timeline for landing it? [09:17] mandel, that should be preinstalled [09:22] dbarth: I'm at QtCS this week, but I can do the publish from here if needed. I maybe just don't have the complete picture of what would still be tested, like did you test HTML5 apps? I did start some cordova tutorial created app and it seemed to work. [09:23] sil2100 went to the balcony to announce to his followers that he's now a #motu, right? [09:23] [09:23] popey: right! Although there was only one guy with a dog listetning... [09:24] heh [09:25] "He's not a MOTU, he's a very naughty boy!" [09:25] do we reboot devices between autopilot suites? [09:26] dbarth: I also tried Cordova Mobile Spec app that was installable, but I'm not sure which all of those should work to which extent etc, but surely it was navigable [09:39] Mirv: ok, i'll get back to you re: more html5 apps testing === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr === psivaa changed the topic of #ubuntu-ci-eng to: Ubuntu CI Engineering Team | Vanguard: psivaa | CI Train Status: #71 promoted | CI Train Support: US: robru, stgraber - EU: sil2100, Mirv | Known issues: - [10:19] sil2100: network disconnecting over night issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1328478 [10:19] Ubuntu bug 1328478 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Network-manager seems to lose connection" [High,New] [10:33] sil2100: building is broken https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/landing-005-1-build/82/console [10:33] (second try already) [10:36] ...as seb128 also just found out [10:37] yeah [10:37] same on https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/landing-012-1-build/40/ [10:44] hmmm [10:44] It might be related to that jenkins switch that happened last night [10:44] * sil2100 looks into that [10:45] Ah shiiit [10:46] rsalveti, ricmm: when is platform api v2 going to land? [10:46] So the worst-case scenario happened [10:46] rsalveti, ricmm: it's blocking unity8-desktop-session bugfixes to land [10:46] the desktop-next iso is useless until that happens... [10:46] why does it need to block that? [10:47] if the api stuff is not ready to land, could we get the bugfixes in and then go back to yours? [10:47] Laney, because you can't have the same projects in multiple silos [10:47] seb128: I was asking that yesterday, it was supposed to be landed ASAP [10:47] sil2100, ok, thanks [10:47] * popey notes that desktop-current iso is currently useless ☻ [10:47] popey, how so? [10:47] We didn't want to override again as geh, papi is already waiting for weeks [10:47] ubiquity is broken, it doesn't start at all. [10:47] urg [10:48] I don't even know for sure that this will fix it [10:48] popey, bug number? [10:48] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1326707 [10:48] Ubuntu bug 1326707 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity does't start, hangs in "/usr/lib/ubiquity/bin/ubiquity", line 426, in acquire_lock, test_debconf.stdout.readline()" [Critical,Fix released] [10:48] Laney, well, I want to see that landing before I spend time debugging [10:48] \o/ fixed 9 hours ago! [10:48] popey, ;-) [10:48] seb128: indeed [10:48] I love sleeping. Things get fixed when I sleep. [10:48] I just mean that it's hard to test until things get in [10:49] the slow pipeline makes this difficult [10:49] right [10:51] popey: it's fixed, but there ain't yet an iso with a fixed ubiquity =) [10:52] good enough ☻ [10:52] thank you! [10:52] popey: thus can't actually verify it's "fixed fixed" [10:52] sil2100: o/ hi, i have a quick branch to pass, for an extra HTML5 binding [10:52] sil2100: would be handy for a UOS session later this week [10:53] Hey! [10:53] dbarth: sure, we're having problems with jenkins right now though [10:53] ok, nw; just to know if i can be that last silo that remains ;) [10:55] Mirv: how's the conference? [11:00] davmor2: interesting, a lot of Qt interested folks from different companies + Digia. I'm showing my Qt 5.3 running U-Phone to interested people. [11:01] runtime OpenGL vs ES switching still being planned, which is good [11:01] Mirv: sounds fun then :) [11:01] indeed. now -> lunch [11:08] popey: did you ever write a bug for video stalling on playback? [11:09] NOTICE! There will be a jenkins outage in a moment! [11:10] davmor2: no, i thought there already was one. [11:10] (by jenkins outage I mean citrain jenkins) [11:26] xnox: tested your fixed ubiquity on a live cd, it is fixed ☻ [11:28] popey: be pretty daft calling it a fixed ubiquity if it wasn't ;) [11:28] Penfold, shush. [11:28] davmor2: well, i claim it's a python3 regression. [11:29] popey: did you read the comment next to the one-liner fix?! =) [11:29] nope [11:29] popey: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-installer/ubiquity/trunk/revision/6188 [11:30] in retrospect, it's not that funny. [11:30] wow [11:36] xnox: I'm not convinced printing was ever guaranteed to flush. [11:36] xnox: I don't agree that's a regression. === zsombi_ is now known as zsombi [11:36] xnox: Leaving aside the flush=True keyword arg, test_debconf.stdin.flush() was available. [11:37] xnox: Maybe the default buffering changed or something; some equivalent of setvbuf might be worth looking into, rather than manually flushing all over the place, though. [11:38] I think we were wrong to make any particular assumptions about the default buffering on pipes. [11:38] cjwatson: experimentally, changing try: except:, feeding stdin & closing stdin/stdout. is all looks clunky. [11:38] when: [11:39] stdou, stderr = test_debconf.communicate ("VERSION 2.0") [11:39] is all that's needed. [11:39] (with try/except IOError) [11:39] so i was going to propose that as a longer term fix. [11:40] That seems wrong. .communicate is defined to "read data from stdout and stderr, until end-of-file is reached". [11:40] Now as it happens you probably get EOF because it's run out of stuff in the pipe, but it doesn't seem conceptually right to me. [11:40] .communicate is really meant for "and I don't want to do anything else with this process later". [11:41] I think you should figure out how to make test_debconf.stdin line-buffered instead. [11:41] * cjwatson goes out for a bit before UOS starts === pete-woods is now known as pete-woods-lunch [11:45] buffering=1 [11:46] ogra_: I guess we'll have to cancel the evening meetings for the next 3 days I guess [11:47] sil2100, what's the status on the infrastructure issues? can I retry the build that failed earlier? [11:47] seb128: not yet - it's almost fixed, we're still having some permission issues and webops are looking into that [11:47] * sil2100 is using seb128's job for that [11:48] I'm using your job for testing ;) [11:48] sil2100, yeah, makes sense [11:48] sil2100, great, thanks === gatox is now known as gatox_brb === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [12:29] * sil2100 goes preparing lunch in the meantime === psivaa changed the topic of #ubuntu-ci-eng to: Ubuntu CI Engineering Team | Vanguard: cihelp | CI Train Status: #71 promoted | CI Train Support: US: robru, stgraber - EU: sil2100, Mirv | Known issues: - === cprov changed the topic of #ubuntu-ci-eng to: Ubuntu CI Engineering Team | Vanguard: cprov | CI Train Status: #71 promoted | CI Train Support: US: robru, stgraber - EU: sil2100, Mirv | Known issues: - === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g === pete-woods-lunch is now known as pete-woods [13:00] sil2100, silo 14 has some deps that need to be sorted, can you deallocate it? [13:03] tedg: you want the silo freed? [13:04] Ok :) [13:04] I like the idea as we're low on silos [13:04] sil2100, did you fix the build environments? [13:04] sil2100, Yeah, it's going to take a while to fix the deps. No reason to hold it. [13:05] seb128: not yet... webops are working on it as I have no access ;/ [13:05] seb128: I'm trying to help out as much as I can, but it's lunch time for the vanguard as well [13:06] k [13:24] sil2100, i'm looking for some info on how the smoke tests are run. is there a jenkins job i could look at? [13:26] brendand, bzr branch lp:ubuntu-test-cases [13:26] IIRC [13:26] it is run as part of UTAH [13:27] ogra_, not much in that branch [13:29] popey: for the bulk of the default app (Note not core apps) if you long press them do you get a description you would expect? [13:30] popey: ie compare calendar/clock with amazon/dialer etc [13:31] davmor2: probably not for the ones installed via debs === gatox_brb is now known as gatox [13:33] davmor2: the ones that have descriptions are coming from the store, until all of the apps are clicks, the debs will have missing descriptions I guess [13:34] popey: ah okay that explains it ta [13:34] brendand: yeah, one moment:) [13:35] brendand: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/utopic-touch-mako-smoke-daily/274/console [13:35] brendand: here for instance you have the run that had filemanager in it (and some others) [13:35] davmor2: eh? [13:36] uh, did we break ubuntu-bug? [13:36] phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ ubuntu-bug unity8 [13:36] usage: whoopsie-upload-all [-h] [-t TIMEOUT] [13:36] whoopsie-upload-all: error: unrecognized arguments: unity8 [13:36] popey: the apps installed from debs will only have missing descriptions if the .desktop doesn't have a "Comment=" field. however, the ones that do have it seem to have pretty awful descriptions :-/ [13:36] ok [13:37] many of the click packaged apps also have pretty horrible descriptions [13:37] dobey: why the eh? [13:37] davmor2: i'm trying to understand what you're asking about [13:38] davmor2: you are seeing apps with blank descriptions? === barry changed the topic of #ubuntu-ci-eng to: Ubuntu CI Engineering Team | Vanguard: cprov | CI Train Status: #71 promoted | CI Train Support: US: barry, robru, stgraber - EU: sil2100, Mirv | Known issues: - [13:38] dobey: not blank just not descriptive compare clock app to dialer [13:39] dobey: or clock app and friends [13:39] davmor2: yeah, many apps have very poor "descriptions" [13:39] yes, clock = click, dialer isnt a click [13:39] and the store has this "tag line" thing when you upload an app, which it munges into the description, and actually gives us as the first line of the description text [13:40] popey: whether it's a click or not is irrelevant i think [13:40] popey: the description for twitter and most of the default web apps are pretty awful too :) [13:40] file a bug [13:41] I only just noticed as I flicked through them testing the platform api for any breakages :) [13:41] i did file one against friends already [13:44] sil2100, so we are rebooting the devices between test suites [13:45] oh, well i filed a bug about friends-app.desktop not being translated, but i guess i didn't mention the bad description in it [13:45] bug 1328535 [13:45] bug 1328535 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "Performance overlay no longer works" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1328535 [13:48] brendand: yes, as I remember correctly we do [13:49] davmor2: can you confirm bug 1328536 pls? [13:49] bug 1328536 in apport (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-bug broken in #76 mako" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1328536 [13:49] sil2100, ok. i'm trying to figure out why it's so difficult to reproduce these failures locally [13:49] sil2100, is there a single script that runs the smoke test from start to finish? [13:50] popey: I use apport- bug I didn't even know ubuntu-bug was installed :) [13:50] well thats broken too [13:51] brendand: uh, I remember doing something like this once, but I can't remember the exact steps and if that didn't change... so I guess the safest way is poking plars-away or reading up the logs === Ursinha changed the topic of #ubuntu-ci-eng to: Ubuntu CI Engineering Team | Vanguard: Ursinha | CI Train Status: #71 promoted | CI Train Support: US: barry, robru, stgraber - EU: sil2100, Mirv | Known issues: - [14:18] ogra_: any news on the failing security tests? [14:19] sil2100, yes, i pinged jdstrand in -touch earlier, he is looking into it [14:19] Awesome :) [14:19] Thanks! [14:22] it should be fixed now. bad test. sorry [14:23] jdstrand: thanks o/ === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g [14:40] sil2100: getting failures trying to build silo-003: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/landing-003-1-build/72/console [14:40] sil2100: is it a jenkins problem? [14:40] bfiller: ah... yes, let me update the header on the spreadsheet [14:40] bfiller: we're currently fixing jenkins ;/ [14:45] ping fginther [14:45] balloons, yo [14:47] fginther, hey :-) So, I wanted to let you know about the discussion we had on running tests on trusty during merge proposals. Basically, given all the issues surrounding it and lack of support, we decided to just remove the trusty builds. [14:47] can you tweak all the core apps at some point to go ahead and stop running trusty? [14:47] balloons, that's easy enough to do [14:48] awesome.. and hopefully we won't have another friday like the last one :-) [15:03] seb128: you might be able to help us on that :-) [15:03] we wanted to land it today, but there's a bunch of packaging renaming happening in the platform-api mr [15:03] and that will require someone to approve them from NEW [15:03] rsalveti, I can do the NEW side, sure [15:04] we're just finishing the testing side of it as we speak [15:04] seb128: in case you already want to take a look at the renaming: https://code.launchpad.net/~ricmm/platform-api/v2-dynamic-refactor/+merge/220721 [15:06] seb128: we iterated a few times over it, but there might still be something amiss that you will catch [15:09] ricmm, rsalveti: k, looking in a bit, thanks [15:31] seb128, bfiller: issues resolved (most probably) [15:31] seb128: your silo is running build right now [15:31] sil2100, great! [15:31] thanks [15:31] seb128, bfiller: it seems that *somehow* the debootstrap chroot got broken during the migration, which is strange [15:36] * Mirv builds too, Qt 5.3 PPA shoud be again functional pretty soon after that (currently webbrowser is lagging behind archive version) === gatox is now known as gatox_lunch [15:37] bfiller: could you look through the open Qt 5.3 issues and do some bugs assigning when you know who to assign to? http://is.gd/gZFEqm is the best link (filters out fixed-in-PPA ones) [15:39] bfiller: I'll run the build job for you [15:40] Mirv: will do [15:40] sil2100: ty [15:44] robru, davmor2, ogra_, slangasek, plars-away, popey: ok, so as discussed, let's skip the US TZ meetings during UOS [15:44] There's a session I want to listen into even [15:44] ++ [15:45] most excellent [15:45] davmor2, popey: as you guys have the power of the calendar for the US TZ event, can you maybe cancel the 3 meetings? [15:45] sil2100, which session interests you presently? [15:45] bfiller: thank you [15:46] I'd forgot this was even on [15:46] robru: Unity8 Desktop Preview Image [15:48] Anyway, as a track lead I need to be available for all the platform tracks [15:49] sil2100: yes, i can [15:49] popey: thank you! [15:49] sil2100: done [15:49] np [15:49] * sil2100 is a master of the universe but not a master of the google calendar it seems [15:51] popey: damn you I'd just figured out how to do that too :) [15:51] popey: I don't mind really though as long as it is done :) [15:54] elopio: hey! could you run the gatekeeper job with ci-train-ppa-service/landing-005 again? since Friday we've gotten working media player and camera, so it'd be interesting to have results for those plug in general have another autopilot run. music app still crashes, though. [15:54] elopio: oh, with the caveat that about 30 minutes from now, when https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/landing-005/+build/6087001 is safely published (finished building >20mins ago) [15:59] Mirv: yes, I can. I'll see if autopilot is using the job. [16:00] ping Ursinha: can we get this one triaged please? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ci-services-itself/+bug/1275012 [16:00] Ubuntu bug 1275012 in Ubuntu CI Services "Add a job to run all the image tests with new qt versions" [Undecided,New] [16:00] I would like to know if we will have it in the near future. [16:01] elopio: thanks. the Friday's run was fine (although I'm not sure if all AP:s from the image dashboard were again included or not) [16:01] Mirv: do you have a link to that run? [16:01] elopio: I'll have a look/hand over to the next vanguard person === Ursinha changed the topic of #ubuntu-ci-eng to: Ubuntu CI Engineering Team | Vanguard: cihelp | CI Train Status: #71 promoted | CI Train Support: US: barry, robru, stgraber - EU: sil2100, Mirv | Known issues: - [16:01] thanks [16:02] hmmm i'm not getting the video feed on the uos page... [16:02] elopio: http://q-jenkins:8080/job/autopilot-release-gatekeeper/151/? - robotfuel mentioned something about that the "ALL" description for tests might be outdated and in theory it should be really ~all. I'm just wondering why there weren't camera AP failures reported since camera was still broken on Friday [16:05] sil2100, can you get me a link for the unity8 video stream? it's not showing up on the summit page for me [16:06] Mirv: camera app was not run there. [16:06] robru: still waiting for it to be setup [16:06] hm [16:06] oh, wait, actually it was [16:07] Mirv: http://q-jenkins:8080/job/autopilot-release-gatekeeper/151/label=daily-mako/testReport/camera_app.tests.test_capture/TestCapture/ [16:07] I don't know the camera tests, so I'm not sure what they are doing. [16:08] elopio: it should take a picture, but the taking a picture button was disabled still on Friday. but there's only three tests there, while http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/utopic/touch/mako/76:20140610:20140530/8503/camera_app/ has 11 [16:08] well, we can also just simply see how it's this time that it's not disabled/broken [16:09] anyone here familiar with u8 autopilot ? [16:09] Mirv: there are 11 tests, http://q-jenkins:8080/job/autopilot-release-gatekeeper/151/label=daily-mako/testReport/ [16:09] all passed. [16:10] ricmm: so I had 3 fails on unity8 addressbook running now [16:10] ricmm: I am familiar, but I tried to run them yesterday after a couple of weeks and I'm still trying to recover my machine. [16:10] elopio, can I discuss the qt smoke test runner job with you later today? [16:10] it crashed badly. [16:10] davmor2: address book ran OK in all tests for me [16:11] but I'm having issues with unity8, after a while it reboots [16:11] ? [16:12] ricmm: are you on desktop or phone? [16:12] ricmm: so it ran fine for me bar the 3 failures [16:12] phone [16:12] davmor2: mako? I ran them on flo [16:12] ricmm: yeah mako [16:13] oh you had 3 fails on unity8 [16:13] I misunderstood that [16:13] ricmm: on desktop, unity7 was restarted here. I can try on the phone as soon as I recover my desktop. [16:13] elopio: what tests are you talking about? [16:13] I'm talking about silo 7, what davmor is trying out [16:14] ricmm: unity8 autopilot tests. [16:14] davmor2: how did you run it exactly? it's literally dying after a few runs for me, with an actual reboot [16:14] davmor2: also, do you have the error output? [16:14] re: anyone here familiar with u8 autopilot ? [16:15] ricmm: I'm going to go back and dig into stuff I just want to get things running and compare it to the current run tests [16:15] davmor2: ok awesome, thank you for that [16:15] I just want to understand what the failure on my device is [16:15] if I run it without -v then a bunch of them pass until it reboots randomly, if I run it with -v none of them pass [16:16] ricmm: it hates you, hate it back it worked for me :) [16:16] I will [16:30] ricmm: cordova 1 failure === fginther changed the topic of #ubuntu-ci-eng to: Ubuntu CI Engineering Team | Vanguard: fginther | CI Train Status: #71 promoted | CI Train Support: US: barry, robru, stgraber - EU: sil2100, Mirv | Known issues: - [16:43] ogra_: do we have a bug for the indicator-network crash? [16:46] sil2100, nope, since Wellark said the whole week in malta he would fix it i dont think anyone filed one [16:46] * sil2100 sighs [16:46] Right [16:46] ;) [16:46] Ok, I'll fill it in then once I have a time window for that [16:46] For now I'll simply add it to our list bugless [16:47] ogra_, would you happen to know where I can get old manifest files from? older than what's on cdimage atm.. seems to keep about a week's worth, I need a bit more than that [16:47] Wellark: we're putting pressure on you! [16:48] balloons, i think they are gone ... unless cjwatson has a secret place where he stores backups or some such [16:48] balloons, my manifest diff files have the added/removed packages though [16:48] http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/ [16:48] I don't [16:48] I already referred balloons to the build logs though [16:48] yea, he pointed out some nice build logs.. [16:49] Which we do keep indefinitely [16:49] ogra_: regarding that, let's have a chat tomorrow about moving our bots and scripts to canonistack [16:49] means some tool tweaking.. ok, I may rebase to use your diffs instead of the manifests [16:49] ty ogra_ [16:50] sil2100, ++ === gatox_lunch is now known as gatox [17:01] davmor2: did you get any update from tedg or design on some of the greeter-related issues? [17:02] sil2100: yes thanks but I'm not telling you :P === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [17:03] Heeey [17:03] That's mean! [17:03] ;) [17:03] sil2100: So the biggest one being redesigned is messaging, the others have tweaks no news on when those will land. The stuff the needs fixing is in the master bug and will be worked on at some point I still need to add links to those [17:05] sil2100: does that help any? [17:06] davmor2: yeah, at least something, thanks :) [17:11] Mirv: I'm starting the jenkins job again. [17:21] ogra_: https://plus.google.com/109159869108744115904/posts/9YuCXibF2CS [17:22] * ogra_ hugs sil2100 [17:22] yay \o/ [17:22] now google has you !! [17:22] Is that ok? ;p [17:22] totally [17:22] Since I'm a bit noob with this... [17:23] it is perfect [17:24] \o/ [17:31] fginther: sure [17:31] sorry, I found your message too late :) [18:22] ricmm: how is the platform-api landing going? [18:23] i see we need Prerequisite: lp:~thomas-voss/platform-api/hw-alarms-api [18:23] to fix my avenger bug :) [18:23] that landed a long while ago [18:23] hw-alarms-api that is [18:23] asac, we're missing the indicator changes that use it properly now [18:24] ricmm: ok thats in the image? [18:24] that prereq? [18:24] i was told it landed a week before malta or so [18:29] so charles tells me he also needs the /dev/alarms being read-only fixed for his branch to land [18:30] ricmm: ogra_: who is doing that? you know? [18:30] asac, charles i think [18:30] charles: ? [18:30] no [18:30] see :P [18:30] I just spoke to tvoss about it a few minutes ago, iiuc he's doing it [18:30] ok, but we dont know how? [18:31] magic ! [18:31] he will swing his wand [18:31] looks like he's not idling here, I'll ping him to join [18:31] lol [18:31] i pinged him already [18:32] no reply yet, we'll see [18:32] it is 8:30pm [18:32] charles: are your reviews etc. done already? [18:32] * cjwatson gets frustrated waiting for the PPA publisher and considers spending half a day optimising it [18:32] e.g. could you start landing if this would be avail? [18:33] asac, if we want to wait for review signoff, ted is looking at it [18:33] asac, if push came to shove IMO we could start landing it [18:34] charles: in general we want MPs to get eyeball review first to avoid wasting silo/landing overhead [18:34] tedg: ^^ [18:34] tedg: are you happy with charles branches :)? [18:34] asac: in general we want more than eyeball [18:34] yeah [18:34] eyeball and pre-testing etc. [18:34] every compnent should have a check list that should be followed [18:35] ricmm: any idea how tvoss might plan to fix /dev/alarm read-only? [18:35] and which component he will touch [18:35] probably ought to add wakeup tests to the indicator-datetime walkthrough plan [18:35] yep [18:35] please update testplan :) [18:35] hyep [18:35] asac: ogra_ this is probably an android item [18:35] once this is fixed i will put my life in the hands of our devel images [18:36] we should be able to fix those nodes permissions without much issue [18:36] so better not regress :) [18:36] ogra_: am I right? [18:36] udev :) [18:36] tvoss_: \o/ [18:36] here we go [18:36] asac, what's up? [18:36] 20:34 < asac> ricmm: any idea how tvoss might plan to fix /dev/alarm read-only? [18:36] :) [18:36] ricmm: how's the papi landing proceeding? [18:36] sil2100: very well, there is a special unity8 AP test that misbehaves with it [18:36] because the test is launching unity8 directly and not using upstart [18:36] Ouch [18:37] so its not inheriting environment [18:37] mterry is reviewing my patch for it [18:37] asac, we have to fix /dev/alarm permissions to whatever the indicator requires [18:37] rsalveti, around? [18:37] tvoss_: yeah, but charles said you said you will do it :) [18:37] so wonder what you wanted to do: [18:37] 1. find someone else to do :) [18:37] 2. have a plan :) [18:37] ricmm: thanks :) [18:37] tvoss_: tell him ogra_'s working on it [18:37] asac, ogra_'s working on it :) [18:38] ogra_: i assume thats news to you, so ignoring that how do we fix it :)? [18:38] udev rule? [18:38] asac, I would think so, much like we set the permission for the haptic feedback devices [18:38] i am ? [18:39] ogra_, we need to adjust permissions on /dev/alarm [18:39] * sil2100 EODs [18:39] Or maybe not... [18:39] charles, eds would be setting the alarm? [18:39] tvoss_, ah, trivial [18:39] ogra_, just completing the blame circle from you -> me -> tvoss [18:39]