=== maclin_ is now known as maclin [05:07] Good morning === thumper is now known as thumper-afk [05:40] pitti: Aloha! [05:40] hey RAOF [05:41] You know what would be totally awesome? If gdb didn't segfault trying to load the symbols of mir_unit_tests :( [05:43] One of these days' yak shaving expeditions is going to be debugging the debugger :/ [05:46] RAOF: on x86? we have quite some trouble with current gdb on arm (it produces just useless traces) [05:47] pitti: On amd64, but yeah. [05:50] In other news: I've got 1.25TB of storage on this laptop. How have I managed to use over 80% of it already? [05:51] HDs are binary, they know only two states: "new" and "full" [05:57] good morning! [05:57] bonjour didrocks, ça va ? [05:58] didrocks: comment était ta premiére semaine dans ton nouvel emploi ? :-) [05:58] pitti: ça va bien ! et toi ? [05:58] pitti: la première semaine était excellent :-) J'ai le temps de faire les choses "biens" et je veux continuer comme ça ;) [05:59] didrocks: trés bien aussi; j'ai eu un bon week-end long à Zurich, avec un ami [05:59] * pitti te donne une accolade :) [06:00] * didrocks donne une accolade en retour à pitti [06:00] et nous avons des jours très chauds, 36 C [06:02] ici aussi, 37 hier [06:02] c'était difficile de tenir [06:02] obligé de courir à 7h du matin [06:02] je veux courir aujourd'hui avant 11h je pense [06:02] (il fait un tout petit peu plus frais, 34) [06:02] ça donne envie de manger une glace ! [06:03] mon aussi, je vais courier maintenant -- il encore fait assez froid [06:03] didrocks: en effet ! [06:04] pitti: bonne course, à tout à l'heure :) [07:20] moin. [07:20] hey Sweet5hark! [07:21] didrocks: woha scary response time! too much coffee in the morning? ;) [07:21] * dro|desrt yawns [07:24] dro|desrt: problems sleeping or hanging out in a different timezone? [07:24] morning everyone :) [07:24] larsu: former [07:24] ugh, sorry [07:24] Sweet5hark: can be too much coffee! :) [07:24] hey larsu, dro|desrt [07:25] * didrocks tries to install python3-apt in virtualenv. Maybe mvo (hey!) you do have a quick recipe? [07:29] dro|desrt: theory: us people travel too much -- messes with the rhythm ... anyway sorry to hear that. also http://time.com/2828800/bad-habits-drain-energy/ maybe it bores you into sleep. [07:34] didrocks: hm, unfortuantely not, you need to build it against libapt iirc but if you have a recipe I'm happy to include it in the pyhton-apt readme [07:35] mvo: ok, I'll give it a look then [07:35] ta [07:46] mvo: once the build-deps are installed, pip install -e bzr+http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~deity/python-apt/debian-sid#egg=apt seems to be enough [07:46] (not sure how to only install a particular ref or tag though) [07:47] mvo: better is to use pip install -e bzr+lp:python-apt#egg=apt I guess [07:49] hiya [07:49] didrocks (or anyone else): https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/users-1406-jobin-rv is in the queue for proposed sessions for UOS [07:49] shall it be accepted or can anyone reach out to the guy about it? [07:50] hum... reading the text it looks a bit like a "this is how to do things" how-to session [07:51] mhall119, ^ should we talk to the guy and send him over to http://uds.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/propose-a-session/? [07:51] hey dholbach, agreed with you, seems more like "this is how to do things" [07:52] thanks didrocks [07:52] I'll reach out to the guy, no worries === thumper-afk is now known as thumper [07:55] thanks ;) [07:55] hey Sweet5hark, morgen larsu! [07:55] hey mvo, wie gehts? [07:56] didrocks: running was nice, but starting at 8 was already quite late; sun is burning! [07:56] hi pitti! [07:56] pitti: hum, I shouldn't really delay that more then. I want first to have something passing on Travis though [07:56] didrocks: yeah, I know the feeling -- "just need to fix this quickly!" [07:56] * thumper waves [07:56] just dropping by to say that I appreciate all you guys [07:57] "shouldn't take more tha 5 min ... oh dear, dinner time!" [07:57] hey thumper, how are you? [07:57] hi thumper! What's up? [07:57] pitti: being frustrated at dumb go code, my test fails and I'm not sure why... [07:57] larsu: just popping in for a meeting in a few minutes [07:57] thought I'd drop by and say hi [07:57] :) [07:57] what did go wrong? (SCNR) [07:58] * pitti chips in 2 EUR into the "bad puns" savings box [07:59] I don't know, that is why I'm frustrated [08:00] AFAICT, trunk tests should fail in the same place [08:00] but they don't [08:01] hey thumper! no time no talk :) [08:01] long* [08:02] * didrocks is already broken by "it's too warm here" [08:03] hey ho [08:03] didrocks: I find that it really helps to close all windows and roll down the shades after 9; my flat stays pleasantly cool all day with that [08:03] it just started to rain here :) [08:03] * larsu is not complaining [08:03] Laney: hi! [08:03] pitti: it's already 26.5°C, closing windows -> done since 7am :) however, closing shades is harder for me (/me hates dark) [08:04] it's active again in here ;-) [08:04] didrocks, mhall119: contacted the guy and will reject his session now [08:04] hey Laney! [08:04] yesterday was weeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiird [08:04] heh :) [08:05] hey Laney :) [08:06] hey [08:06] did you guys have a nice long weekend? [08:07] yeah, it was great, but quite hot… how was your "normal" weekend? [08:10] was nice thanks, went down south to visit family [08:12] good morning desktopers! [08:12] hey Laney [08:12] how are you? [08:12] umm /me wonders why his pc doesn't turn on [08:12] hey seb128 [08:12] not bad! [08:13] how was your extra large weekend? [08:13] so it doesn't turn on because it's already turned on [08:13] * Laney slowly goes mad [08:18] lol, did it turn off instead then? ;-) [08:19] I had the "Goodbye. ..." thing :P [08:22] good ;-) [08:23] seb128, Laney, pitti: gmorning. [08:23] Sweet5hark, pitti: hey, wie gehts? [08:24] bonjour seb128 ! très bien, merci ! c'était un grand week-end [08:24] seb128: et toi ? [08:24] pitti, très bien aussi merci ! mais il a fait trop chaud ici, 35°C hier [08:24] seb128: ici aussi; nous avons l'été :) [08:25] pitti, l'été il fait moins chaud ! [08:25] * seb128 likes to be able to go outside [08:25] which you can't really enjoy when it's that hot [08:25] seb128: great. god took selfies here yesterday judging by the lightning and according to the thunders wasnt very happy with the quality ... [08:26] didrocks: nice! I will add this to the python-apt README [08:26] hey mvo [08:26] seb128: I went running this morning and did some gardening in the evening; over the day it's indeed too hot, I'm barricading myself in the flat with the shades down :) [08:27] pitti, good weather for ice cream though ! I got some yesterday ;-) [08:28] seb128: c'est la vraie façon ! [08:29] oui, en effet ;-) [08:29] hum, UOS starts today [08:29] any idea how i can turn off the not-working ubuntu one sync attempts? I continoulsy get notification bubbles etc. [08:29] and hi! :) [08:29] asac, hey, uninstall ubuntuone-client? [08:29] hmm [08:30] seb128: no way to turn that off in settings? [08:30] Laney, http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/2014-06-10/ ... there is a session about the unity8 ISO at 4pm UTC, in case you want to join [08:30] * asac purges [08:30] asac, well, they turned the service off server side, we should really force remove the package or something [08:30] yeah i think so too [08:32] seb128: interesting, thanks [08:32] nobody asked the desktop team? [08:33] dholbach asked to have a session on the schedule and I mentioned it to bregma, so I guess he did it [08:37] fair enough [08:40] Laney: UOS dates were announced quite a while ago and a general call for sessions went out as well, so it's not like the desktop team wasn't asked [08:41] I think Michael also mailed the UE leads [08:41] I was talking about this particular session [08:41] ah ok [08:41] sorry [08:41] I misunderstood [08:42] no worries [08:42] it's just that in the past dates were announced late, and this time I felt "we did better", that's why I thought I'd respond :) [08:47] dholbach: You did, don't worry :) [08:47] dholbach: In other news, go G+ about how I just added sil2100 to ~motu ;) [08:48] mvo: as Travis CI is using precise machines, that was a little bit longer than expected (had to add apt 1.0 to my ppa for requirements), but here is a log of python3-apt compiled in a virtualenv, and installed with pip: https://travis-ci.org/didrocks/ubuntu-developer-tools-center/builds/27200092. There is just one test on apt for now which "import apt" to ensure it's in the virtualenv (no distro-wide [08:48] packages installed) :) [08:48] \o/ [08:48] Yaaay! [08:48] Thank you ;) [08:48] mvo: click on the "install" button to see the compilation of this module [08:48] with great power comes dput auofaijfoiaghih [08:48] Laney, yeeeeeeeehaw [08:48] lol [08:48] sil2100, congratulations! :-) [08:49] * didrocks guesses that means sil2100 is now a MOTU :) [08:49] ja [08:49] congrats sil2100! [08:49] sil2100, congrats! [08:49] Thanks! I can now BREAK THE UNIVERSE :E [08:49] * sil2100 starts his plan [08:50] Ok ok, just kidding, I don't want to loose my rights right after getting them ;p [08:50] sauron is watching [08:50] * seb128 disable universe from his sources.list [08:50] * davmor2 quickly signs sil2100 up to QA while he can still break stuff [08:53] didrocks: nice! [08:53] hey seb128 and pitti, sorry, didn't see your hello earlier, was looking at code :) [08:54] * pitti waves to mvo and tosses some ice cubes [08:54] now that tests pass, time to run [08:54] whish me luck that I don't melt down! [08:54] didrocks: good luck! [08:54] bon courier ! [08:55] merci ! je vais essayer de bien courir ! [08:55] didrocks: enjoy [08:56] didrocks, bon courage... ;-=) [08:56] * didrocks s'arme d'une casquette ubuntu :) [08:57] you already received it? [08:57] yep, this morning [08:57] nice [08:57] indeed, time to try it! [08:57] see you later guys [08:57] ttyl! [08:57] * Laney wants one of these [08:59] hm? [08:59] hmhm [08:59] hmh! [09:00] "une casquette ubuntu" -> an ubuntu helmet? [09:00] cap [09:01] xnox, https://translate.google.fr/#fr/en/casquette [09:02] ah, une casquette est un petit casque [09:30] Laney, should we just retry https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webkitgtk/2.4.3-1ubuntu1 (the armhf build)? [09:31] no it doesn't work [09:31] :-( [09:31] i uploaded a fix [09:31] k [09:31] same breakage happened in U [09:31] and Debian [09:32] oh cool they have a new fix there, maybe that's better [09:32] good to see that the fix worked in utopic ;-) [09:34] i'll wait to see if it builds in unstable before merging it ;-) === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr [10:01] seb128, can somebody respond to https://twitter.com/ajcook_/status/475792456211255296? [10:02] dholbach, that's a question for tiheum ;-) I've no idea what are the plans for the new theme and desktop (out of convergence/getting them with unity8) [10:02] ok cool, tiheum: if you could respond that'd be great :) [10:11] dholbach, seb128, I will [10:11] perfect :) [10:24] tiheum, thanks [10:27] * didrocks is back and alive… [10:30] didrocks, how was it? not too hot? [10:31] seb128: it was too hot, was hard to not stop running at some points [10:31] will definitively run before 8am tomorrow… [10:31] yeah, earlier is better with that weather [10:31] clearly… at least cycling back was nice and refreshing [10:59] tjaalton: can I merge weston? [10:59] The current version FTBFS and we need to upload it for the colord transition [11:34] seb128: hey, I've seen the fix for libdbusmenu is in the ci train queue, can you also care about SRUing it to 14.04? :P [11:35] Trevinho, hey, yes that was planned, I wanted it to land in utopic first though [11:35] seb128: indeed, thank you [11:35] Trevinho, thanks for fixing that bug ;-) [11:35] seb128: as that was affecting some 3rdy apps (see the copy.com indicator), so it would be nice to land in stable [11:36] right [11:37] Trevinho, speaking of stable, do you know if the "can't resize update-manager" and "the number of pips on the launcher is wrong" issues are going to be fixed in the next Unity SRU? ;-) [11:38] seb128: I hope so, the fixes are already done... The 2nd one is approved, the 1st is in my manchine still, but done :P [11:38] ;-) [11:38] anyway. I think they will... BUt there are some strange errors about the last unity version in e.u.c... [11:39] oh? [11:39] like? [11:39] they point weird stack traces, so they look like regression, although the code mentioned has nothing to do with the latest SRU changes, and the worst thing is that the frames pointed by the stacktrance seems to be disconnected between them (i.e. there's no real code paths between them) [11:40] seb128: https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/8fc148da910ae3d63758f6e96174a502860a6b95 [11:40] weird [11:40] seb128: or another couple... but for some reason there are no unity symbols there, so it's also hard to undestand what it means [11:41] could be corrupted memory/invalid free somewhere [11:41] I would say there is an abi issue, if there was any chance for that, but I think nothing changed on that side [11:41] might be, but I don't see much manual memory handling on new code [11:42] (not to mention that non of us saw these crashes on their machines) [11:42] I might give valgrind another go, but there are no informations in the bug reports about when an issue happens... so not easy to understand [11:43] yeah :/ [11:43] could be that the bug is not new, just some other changes made it more likely to happen [11:49] larsu, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+source/gtk+3.0/3.12.2-0ubuntu1 [11:49] seb128: \o/ [11:49] ;-) [11:49] omgyoubrokeeverything [11:50] lol [11:50] (who tested ubiquity?) [11:50] ;-) [11:50] (xnox?) [11:50] Laney: hm? [11:51] Laney: python3.4 broke ubiquity, so haven't tested with 3.12 [11:51] gtk 3.12 [11:51] well it's uploaded now :-) [11:51] we are going to figure out tomorrow [11:51] or whenever next iso is built with it [11:51] Laney: well, hopefully the image you respun is good =) [11:51] that won't have it === gatox is now known as gatox_brb [11:51] unless you mean we can freeze this one until release [11:52] SHIP IT [11:52] Laney: it should have python3.4 fix, and thus when image with 3.12 is build we can start the gtk theming bugs treasure hunt. [11:52] that GTK update seems to be better on that front, we didn't have to fix themes or scrollbars this time [11:53] yeah hopefully so [11:53] ubiquity seems more sensitive than most things usually though [11:53] but it should be ok i reckon [11:53] yeah, but our theme still have bugs. Cause e.g. adwaita had fixes for elements looking odd in certain layouts, which i don't think have been applied to light-themes [11:53] seb128, Hi! who is now working on system-settings ? [11:54] om26er, hey, Jonas is [11:54] he's jgdx on IRC [11:55] seb128, US time I would assume ? [11:55] depending on the question we might be better placed to answer [11:55] europe [11:55] just as on #ubuntu-touch [11:55] he's in Oslo, european tz [11:55] Laney, wanted my system upgrade tests reviewed [11:56] is that https://code.launchpad.net/~om26er/ubuntu-system-settings/upgrade_testing_prerequisite/+merge/214722 ? [11:56] seb128, that and upgrade testing part, which is for ubuntu-system-image [11:57] om26er, I reviewed that one some weeks ago, did you see it's "needs information"? [11:57] it's blocked on you to reply to the review [11:57] no need to ping more people until that happens... [11:59] Laney, larsu: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/177329115/buildlog_ubuntu-utopic-amd64.gtk%2B3.0_3.12.2-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [11:59] :-( [11:59] umm [11:59] seb128, sorry, missed that somehow. I will reply to that, I also wanted to get a sanity review of the upgrade tests but I'll first try to resolve this MR === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [12:00] seb128: :( I just tried on my machine and it worked [12:01] weird [12:01] I tried it in a chroot... [12:02] Laney: any clue what's wrong there? The paths look right to me... [12:02] there are quite some tests failing in that log [12:03] ya, I'm on it [12:03] would be easier if I could reproduce :-/ [12:03] not sure what's going on with the image loaders [12:03] yeah, same here, works locally [12:03] seb128: missing a gnome-shell running ?! [12:04] xnox, you mean systemd-shell? [12:04] ;-) [12:04] but it's not friday [12:04] * seb128 stops the trolling [12:04] good morning :) [12:04] seb128: those are just warnings though, they shouldn't fail the test [12:04] * dro|desrt feels like he walked in about 90 seconds too late [12:04] re good morning dro|desrt! [12:05] dro|desrt: you again [12:05] I mean, good morning! [12:05] * dro|desrt spent some time reading about the bizarre web of public and private money that currently owns ontario highway 407 before going back to bed [12:06] larsu, " /build/buildd/gtk+3.0-3.12.2/testsuite/a11y/messagedialog.ui: Contents don't match expected contents:" [12:06] larsu, that seems a real issue/fail? [12:06] dro|desrt, hey, still dro? [12:06] seb128: until thursday [12:06] oh, k [12:06] having fun doing it? ;-) [12:06] what is dro? [12:06] reminds me -- i need to fetch and count my ballots [12:07] larsu: deputy returning officer (election official) [12:07] no me [12:07] Laney, http://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?section=res&dir=glo&document=index&lang=e#d [12:07] tl;dr: i'm responsible for a poll [12:07] sounds like fun [12:07] is this voluntary? [12:07] ish [12:07] dro|desrt: I know... [12:08] oh, Laney [12:08] there's pay, but i think it's somewhat below minimum wage [12:08] you do the count per polling station? [12:08] yes [12:08] our system is fantastically transparent [12:09] (lt-accessibility-dump:4736): GLib-GIO-ERROR **: No GSettings schemas are installed on the system [12:09] what is this [12:09] i open the box with representatives of each candidate present and count in front of everyone... then certify the result and give everyone a copy. if any candidate wants, they could add up all of these copies (from their representatives) and independently calculate the result themselves [12:09] larsu: XDG_DATA_DIRS fail? [12:10] *laney, sorry [12:10] apparently your tab completion order got changed... [12:10] you two need to disambiguate before the third letter :p [12:11] seb128: right, it changes under unity because of our patch [12:11] seb128: but shouldn't we see the same error locally then? [12:11] we build under unity [12:11] * larsu is running unity [12:11] the buildds don't [12:11] so that might be the difference [12:12] I built in a chroot [12:12] seb128: right, but I would have thought it is the other way around, since we change the dialog for unity and the test was written for the original dialog [12:12] in any case, that's probably it [12:13] dro|desrt: and you need to be desrt|dro [12:13] to not fuck with my tab completion [12:13] :) [12:14] * dro|desrt often feels sorry for descender on #gtk+ [12:14] who is that? [12:15] some guy with a nick starting with 'des' [12:15] ya, I got that much,,, [12:16] well, at least there is no didrocks on that channel (he's using a client that gets confused often by nicknames) [12:16] :) [12:19] Laney, re sbuild, it's possible the temporary vcs had the make check || trued, I commited that by error but fixed before the archive upload [12:19] urg [12:19] just mentioning it, in case [12:21] yeah looks like it was commented out [12:21] :/ [12:21] :-( [12:22] sorry about that, the test fails locally here for some reason, I never took the time to debug it, so I usually || true them while I'm working on the packaging and then do a proper test in pbuilder or such before upload [12:22] but I managed to commit the hack this time [12:22] larsu: get a chance to start reviewing the parser stuff yet? [12:23] dro|desrt: no. Thanks for the reminder [12:23] well i should be able to reproduce it then [12:24] hopefully it's just a missing build-dep [12:24] Laney, let me know if you want me to have a look [12:24] no need to have 3 of us looking at the same thing [12:24] larsu, ^ [12:24] dro|desrt: wip/new-parser? [12:24] yes [12:24] seb128: k [12:25] I need a new laptop or at least moar rams [12:25] come on laptop refresh [12:25] same here [12:25] I had the refresh [12:25] firefox dies on gtk buildlogs [12:25] but I'm waiting on Dell to fix the xps [12:26] Laney, btw, they just give you money for the refresh, so you have the option to buy before the refresh if you don't mind having some money out of the bank until the refresh lands [12:27] seb128: yeah, still a year off though [12:28] I kind of want to have made a laptop last for 5 years too [12:28] hehe [12:29] well, I'm still happy with my Dell which is 4 years old, but it's a bit heavy and I could use a bit more ram and disk [12:29] though I'm not doing that much builds so it's fine most of the time [12:30] yeah I have a (not Sweet5hark style, but still) decent desktop for doing builds [12:30] interesting... [12:30] I'm going to the cafe for lunch [12:30] will look at gtk when I get back [12:30] just built the ~build1 version again by mistake :( [12:30] * dro|desrt wrote a non-contention-optimised ultra-simple mutex implementation to replace pthreads in glib [12:30] Laney, do you clean the builddir after build? or can you get back in there and run make check by hand? [12:30] Laney, enjoy! [12:31] turns out in the non-contended case (which is what i wrote it for) it beats pthreads by ~25% [12:31] it only sticks around on failed builds [12:31] k [12:31] in the contended case, it's more like 4 _times_ faster [12:35] latest image -> unity-settings-daemon is running, yet background is some gray color, instead of the default wallpaper =( [12:35] dro|desrt: nice. Any specific usecase? [12:35] larsu: those numbers from the in-tree testcase [12:36] but working with the gstreamer guys pretty closely [12:37] ah, cool [12:42] xnox, is that a one time thing? [12:43] seb128: cold ubiquity cd boot. I mean ubiquity-dm =) i don't care about the live session, which is probably is all fine. [12:44] xnox, the question stands [12:44] is that a new issue? [12:44] u-s-d didn't really change since trusty [12:44] seb128: i believe it used to be fine in may. [12:45] * xnox goes to check the archive of image that i have [12:45] weird [12:45] did you try to boot again, in case that was a one time weirdness? [12:47] seb128: not a one time weirdness. [12:47] live session is fine. [12:47] hum, k [12:47] is u-s-d running in that ubiquity-dm session? [12:47] (like can you check the status of the job/the processes list) [12:47] dholbach: was that guy not planning on leading his session? [12:47] mhall119, err, yes - why? [12:48] mhall119, it looks like he submitted it to the wrong queue [12:48] mhall119, blueprints vs. howto-session-in-users-track [12:48] I mailed him and rejected the blueprint [12:48] ah, ok [12:52] seb128, heyo! So I signed us up for a unity8 desktop image session, and it got scheduled today at 16h UTC [12:52] seb128, http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/meeting/22308/unity8-desktop-preview-image/ === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [12:52] mterry, hey, thanks for registering that one, I saw it this morning/added myself to the participants list [12:52] seb128, oh so I see! Awesome [12:52] did you ping bregma about it as well? [12:53] seb128, I don't know if we want to prepare anything more than hashing out what we talked about in Malta into work items, but there we go [12:53] seb128, I subscribed bregma... Hi, bregma! ^ :) [12:53] mterry, I think hashing out work items is going to be good enough [12:53] I was planning to go to Marco's session scheduled at the same time [12:54] hrm [12:54] I wonder how easy it is to reschedule a session [12:55] which he may cancel if he can't come up with anything to say... I think he was voluntold to do that session [12:55] :) [12:56]