[12:46] <mhall119> help! I really need those new UOS channels setup by 1400 UTC
[12:48] <mhall119> AlanBell: canyou help?
[12:50] <Pricey> mhall119: you just need channels created?
[12:52] <mhall119> Pricey: yes
[12:52] <mhall119> and the UDS bots in them
[12:53] <Pricey> mhall119: You should be able to do this yourslef. Just "/join #ubuntu-newchannel" and "/msg chanserv register #ubuntu-newchannel"  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcCouncil/Coordination is a useful link. See the access list addition entries especially.
[12:54] <Pricey> Ah, bots will be a different issue.
[12:55] <jose> mhall119: not sure if tsimpson is around, afaik he's the one in charge for the bots
[12:55] <jose> channels were regged by Pici, though
[12:56] <tsimpson> what channels are missing?
[12:56] <jose> tsimpson: channels used are now #ubuntu-uOs-track-number, not #ubuntu-uDs-track-number
[12:57] <tsimpson> and someone thought this was a good idea?
[12:57] <mhall119> oh, did somebody create the new ones with uds?
[12:58] <jose> yeah, channels are set up with uds
[12:58] <mhall119> tsimpson: jono did, I can blame him for everything now :)
[12:59] <tsimpson> I created -uds-platform-1/2, -uds-devops-1/2, -uds-users-1/2 as well as the -uos channel for it just forwarding to -uds
[12:59] <tsimpson> I think that's the best thing to do for the rest of them right now
[12:59] <jose> we would need to ask Pici to set up a redirect, he's got the flags
[13:00] <jose> -uds-appdev-1/2 and uds-community-1
[13:00] <tsimpson> I don't think were going to get a painless migration if we try and do it before 14:00
[13:00] <tsimpson> I'm sure I checked the summit links in the last few days and they were all using -uds channels
[13:02] <tsimpson> AlanBell Pici  hggdh Tm_T: ping for the above
[13:06] <Pici> tsimpson: wait, where am I forwarding things to? from UOS to UDS?
[13:07] <tsimpson> Pici: we need to register -uos- channels for the remaining -uds- channels and set +if -uds- in the -uos- channels
[13:07] <tsimpson> we can reverse everything and migrate the bots for the next U[A-Z]S
[13:16] <Pici> okay.... we should be good
[13:16] <Pici> can anyone verify for me?
[13:18] <Pici> mhall119: you *should* be set now... all the -uos channels I registered yesterday have been forwarded to their -uds counterparts.  Assuming that tsimpson has the bots there, we should be set.
[13:19] <tsimpson> the bots are all set in the uds channels
[13:23] <jose> Pici: looks like it's working to me :)
[13:23] <jose> thanks, guys!
[13:27] <mhall119> Pici: tsimpson so the channels are actuallys -uds- still?
[13:28] <Fuchs> apparently both exist, and the o ones are +if to the d one
[13:28] <Fuchs> which sounds correct
[13:28] <Fuchs> (at least for the ones I checked, I don't have a list)
[13:30] <tsimpson> mhall119: yes
[13:30] <tsimpson> so the logs on irclogs will be -uds-
[13:33] <mhall119> ok, I'll just update summit to point to those then too
[13:39] <Fuchs> mhall119: the -o ones will forward users, unless  1) they can't join  (due to already being there, being banned or similar reasons) 2) they have forwarding disabled  (most users don't do that)
[13:41] <mhall119> Fuchs: that's fine, but to avoid confusion I've updated Summit as well
[20:20] <genii> If some people in here are also in -locoteams, sorry for the crossposting. But I think either channel may be appropriate to mention this....
[20:20] <genii> Is there something which can be done about empty official channels? For instance, #ubuntu-arabic there is zero users there, just Chanserv. And #ubuntu-sa ( the Saudi channel) only has 2 bots and again Chanserv. We can't in good faith be suggesting users go there for support in Arabic.