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zequenceWould someone who knows seeds mind to take a look at the Ubuntu Studio seeds? I've been comparing them with others, and some things don't seem to make sense.08:35
zequenceThe bzr repo is at lp:~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntustudio.utopic08:36
zequenceParticularly the ship and dvd seeds, and how they are don in STRUCTURE08:36
zequenceHow is ship put on the ISO? Is it put on the ISO at all?08:37
zequenceI'm guessing it wouldn't need "di-requirements"08:37
darkxstanyone around that can bump libmutter0d through new?08:40
cjwatsoncdimage puts everything in ship on the ISO08:41
cjwatsonsee lib/cdimage/germinate.py in lp:ubuntu-cdimage08:42
cjwatsonthat's the *point* of ship :)08:42
zequencecjwatson: Ok, thanks. So, some seeds are special - which I've read about, but haven't understood exactly how08:43
cjwatson(however if it's a live image then ship-live is used instead)08:43
zequencecjwatson: Ok, so in our case, we have a live DVD. How does that work?08:43
cjwatsondon't quite have time right now, could you read through the code reference I gave to start with?08:44
cjwatsonthe cd-live seed looks like a misplaced guess at least08:45
zequencecjwatson: It's for a new CD we want08:45
cjwatsonshould be ship-live08:45
zequenceI've looked around in ubuntu-cdimage, and I guess I could continue with that. But, really, all I want is for our seeds to make sense and that we get a new CD built further on08:47
cjwatsonI don't recall how the dvd-live seed gets used, but I added it originally so it must have made sense :)08:47
cjwatsonsome of the seeds get turned into metapackages or tasks and used from there08:47
cjwatsonfor live-type seeds it's usually tasks08:47
zequenceYes, I know about that. And, I've prepared one new meta, which isn't updated in the meta source yet08:48
cjwatsonbut ship-live-type things are different - those are "the live image needs these additional .debs in a pool on the ISO, outside the squashfs"08:48
cjwatsondvd-live looks like it's more like live than ship-live08:48
cjwatsonand I withdraw my earlier comment about cd-live - it's not ship-live, should probably just be "live"08:49
cjwatson(if it's not clear, the reason you need different seeds for the CD and DVD cases there is because even though they have the same top-level contents they may have different dependency expansions depending on what they inherit from)08:49
zequenceThe problem is in STRUCTURE though. if live inherits from all our multimedia seeds, and both a CD and a DVD inherits from live, won't all the multimedia packages get installed on both ISOs?08:50
cjwatsonyou clearly need different live seeds for CD vs. DVD08:50
cjwatsonsince they will usually have different inheritance08:50
zequenceGood. So, so far, I've been doing it somehow right then :)08:50
cjwatsonbut I'd prefer the naming to be regular across flavours wherever possible, please08:51
cjwatsonso rename cd-live to live08:51
cjwatsonmakes my life easier08:51
zequenceok, and dvd-live?08:51
cjwatsonleave that as it is08:52
zequenceok, and if we wanted a new CD built right now - do I need to do anything else?08:52
cjwatsonis the new metapackage you're talking about "ubuntustudio-live"?08:52
zequenceno, ubuntustudio-audio-core08:52
cjwatsonah, ubuntustudio-live is a real package, confusing but ok08:53
zequenceI also added desktop-minimal, but I'm not intending to make that an installable package08:53
cjwatson(which is fine, there shouldn't normally be a metapackage equivalent of live-type seeds)08:53
cjwatsonzequence: rightly so08:53
cjwatsonzequence: adding image builds will take some work from me, but I think the seeds are mostly in shape now (with that renaming) to make that workable08:53
zequenceI copied ubuntustudio-live from edubuntu pretty much. I could change the name to -live-settings08:54
cjwatson*shrug*08:54
zequencecjwatson: Ok, so should I post a mail, or something to ask for a new ISO build?08:54
cjwatsonyeah, mail me please or add a work item for me on a blueprint or something08:55
zequencecjwatson: Alright. Thanks a million!08:55
cjwatsonI don't have a problem with doing it as long as you guys have QA capacity for it around releases08:55
zequenceWon't be a problem :)08:55
cjwatsondarkxst: done08:59
darkxstcjwatson, thanks!08:59
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zulcan someone reject testresources please?13:09
Trevinhobdmurray: hey, could you please check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vdpau-video/+bug/1222790 again? the build failure should be fixed by https://bugs.launchpad.net/+branch/~3v1n0/ubuntu/trusty/vdpau-video/remove-va-constants/+merge/21943613:56
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bdmurrayTrevinho: by check do you mean you'd like me to merge and sponsor it or something else?14:18
Trevinhobdmurray: merge and sponsor :)14:19
bdmurrayTrevinho: I'll try and get to it14:20
Trevinhobdmurray: thank you14:21
rtgI uploaded tboot-1.8.1 90 minutes ago and have yet to receive an email, nor can I see it in the Utopic queues. Any thoughts ?14:56
rtgSuccessfully uploaded tboot_1.8.1-0ubuntu1.dsc to upload.ubuntu.com for ubuntu.14:56
rtgSuccessfully uploaded tboot_1.8.1.orig.tar.gz to upload.ubuntu.com for ubuntu.14:56
rtgSuccessfully uploaded tboot_1.8.1-0ubuntu1.debian.tar.xz to upload.ubuntu.com for ubuntu.14:56
rtgSuccessfully uploaded tboot_1.8.1-0ubuntu1_source.changes to upload.ubuntu.com for ubuntu.14:56
stgraberthere was some disk space problems with the ftpmaster around that time, might be related14:56
stgrabercjwatson: ^14:56
rtgstgraber, shall I just fire it up again ?14:57
cjwatsoner, possibly, sorry14:57
cjwatsonone sec14:57
cjwatsonI'll just check the logs14:57
cjwatson2014-06-10 13:28:10 DEBUG   dpkg-source failed for tboot_1.8.1-0ubuntu1.dsc [return: 29]14:57
cjwatson2014-06-10 13:28:10 DEBUG   [dpkg-source output:   dpkg-source: info: extracting tboot in tboot-1.8.114:57
cjwatson2014-06-10 13:28:10 DEBUG     dpkg-source: info: unpacking tboot_1.8.1.orig.tar.gz]14:58
cjwatsonyeah, sorry about that, just reupload14:58
rtgcan do. thanks.14:58
cjwatsonlooks like the only affected upload14:58
cjwatson(I accidentally filled up /)14:58
rtgsucks to be me :)14:58
argesif something is in utopic-proposed (not sure how that happened), what process shoudl be used to get it into -updates? (looking at audacity fwiw)15:55
cjwatsonnothing should go into utopic-updates15:55
cjwatsonutopic-proposed is managed automatically by proposed-migration; you shouldn't touch it as an SRU admin15:55
cjwatsonhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#audacity15:56
cjwatsonIt's part of the big libav transition which needs to go in as a unit15:56
cjwatsonhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration to understand how this works15:57
argescjwatson: thanks15:59
cjwatson... since you're an archive admin, you shouldn't generally touch it manually as that either :)16:00
cjwatsonit does sometimes need hints but those are usually handled by the release team16:00
argescjwatson: well i was just going through the review queue and saw audacity sru for trusty, but it wasn't fixed for utopic and rmadison showed the utopic-proposed version.16:01
cjwatsonright16:01
cjwatsonbut it would be actively harmful to copy it into utopic right now, as it'll be uninstallable until the whole of libav can land16:02
argesgotcha; i won't touch it : ) that's why I asked here16:02
cjwatsonhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/libav10.html  still some way to go by the looks of things :-/16:02
Laneyarges: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/177112196/webkitgtk_2.4.3-1ubuntu2_source.changes has a bug reference already because I uploaded with -v16:33
Laneyarges: Maybe we need to un-SRUify it?16:33
Laney(See Launchpad-Bugs-Fixed there)16:33
argesLaney: ahh sorry I just looked at the changelog16:33
Laneyit's possible that the tool will think it's already in proposed16:34
balloonscjwatson, infinity perhaps someone else.. Do we archive the ubuntu-touch images in the same way as our desktop images? I need the manifests of some older builds that what is on cdimage atm16:44
cjwatsonI don't archive the desktop images; I don't know who does16:45
cjwatsonIf all else fails, you can scrape the same data out of http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/ with a bit of work16:45
cjwatsonAnd .../cd-build-logs/16:46
Laneyarges: can you accept that from rejected or shall I reupload?16:46
balloonsty cjwatson16:46
argescjwatson: can I accept an SRU from rejected (that I rejected)? or will that cause mass chaos16:47
cjwatsonShould be fine16:48
argesLaney: re: 1326359, is it fixed for utopic or not?16:59
Laneyarges: I see what you want me to do. :)17:00
Laneythere we go17:00
argesLaney: cool. : ) just being careful on my end17:00
argesLaney: ok updated for trusty. sorry about all the confusion17:01
Laneyno worries, thanks for looking again17:02
Laneydenial of servicing a buildd network near you in 3, 2, 117:02
argeshmm so webkitgtk was moved into Done; but I don't see it in rmadison yet and queuebot hasn't said anything yet17:06
argesanyway, listening to talk17:07
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