[08:35] <zequence> Would someone who knows seeds mind to take a look at the Ubuntu Studio seeds? I've been comparing them with others, and some things don't seem to make sense.
[08:36] <zequence> The bzr repo is at lp:~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntustudio.utopic
[08:36] <zequence> Particularly the ship and dvd seeds, and how they are don in STRUCTURE
[08:37] <zequence> How is ship put on the ISO? Is it put on the ISO at all?
[08:37] <zequence> I'm guessing it wouldn't need "di-requirements"
[08:40] <darkxst> anyone around that can bump libmutter0d through new?
[08:41] <cjwatson> cdimage puts everything in ship on the ISO
[08:42] <cjwatson> see lib/cdimage/germinate.py in lp:ubuntu-cdimage
[08:42] <cjwatson> that's the *point* of ship :)
[08:43] <zequence> cjwatson: Ok, thanks. So, some seeds are special - which I've read about, but haven't understood exactly how
[08:43] <cjwatson> (however if it's a live image then ship-live is used instead)
[08:43] <zequence> cjwatson: Ok, so in our case, we have a live DVD. How does that work?
[08:44] <cjwatson> don't quite have time right now, could you read through the code reference I gave to start with?
[08:45] <cjwatson> the cd-live seed looks like a misplaced guess at least
[08:45] <zequence> cjwatson: It's for a new CD we want
[08:45] <cjwatson> should be ship-live
[08:47] <zequence> I've looked around in ubuntu-cdimage, and I guess I could continue with that. But, really, all I want is for our seeds to make sense and that we get a new CD built further on
[08:47] <cjwatson> I don't recall how the dvd-live seed gets used, but I added it originally so it must have made sense :)
[08:47] <cjwatson> some of the seeds get turned into metapackages or tasks and used from there
[08:47] <cjwatson> for live-type seeds it's usually tasks
[08:48] <zequence> Yes, I know about that. And, I've prepared one new meta, which isn't updated in the meta source yet
[08:48] <cjwatson> but ship-live-type things are different - those are "the live image needs these additional .debs in a pool on the ISO, outside the squashfs"
[08:48] <cjwatson> dvd-live looks like it's more like live than ship-live
[08:49] <cjwatson> and I withdraw my earlier comment about cd-live - it's not ship-live, should probably just be "live"
[08:49] <cjwatson> (if it's not clear, the reason you need different seeds for the CD and DVD cases there is because even though they have the same top-level contents they may have different dependency expansions depending on what they inherit from)
[08:50] <zequence> The problem is in STRUCTURE though. if live inherits from all our multimedia seeds, and both a CD and a DVD inherits from live, won't all the multimedia packages get installed on both ISOs?
[08:50] <cjwatson> you clearly need different live seeds for CD vs. DVD
[08:50] <cjwatson> since they will usually have different inheritance
[08:50] <zequence> Good. So, so far, I've been doing it somehow right then :)
[08:51] <cjwatson> but I'd prefer the naming to be regular across flavours wherever possible, please
[08:51] <cjwatson> so rename cd-live to live
[08:51] <cjwatson> makes my life easier
[08:51] <zequence> ok, and dvd-live?
[08:52] <cjwatson> leave that as it is
[08:52] <zequence> ok, and if we wanted a new CD built right now - do I need to do anything else?
[08:52] <cjwatson> is the new metapackage you're talking about "ubuntustudio-live"?
[08:52] <zequence> no, ubuntustudio-audio-core
[08:53] <cjwatson> ah, ubuntustudio-live is a real package, confusing but ok
[08:53] <zequence> I also added desktop-minimal, but I'm not intending to make that an installable package
[08:53] <cjwatson> (which is fine, there shouldn't normally be a metapackage equivalent of live-type seeds)
[08:53] <cjwatson> zequence: rightly so
[08:53] <cjwatson> zequence: adding image builds will take some work from me, but I think the seeds are mostly in shape now (with that renaming) to make that workable
[08:54] <zequence> I copied ubuntustudio-live from edubuntu pretty much. I could change the name to -live-settings
[08:54] <cjwatson> *shrug*
[08:54] <zequence> cjwatson: Ok, so should I post a mail, or something to ask for a new ISO build?
[08:55] <cjwatson> yeah, mail me please or add a work item for me on a blueprint or something
[08:55] <zequence> cjwatson: Alright. Thanks a million!
[08:55] <cjwatson> I don't have a problem with doing it as long as you guys have QA capacity for it around releases
[08:55] <zequence> Won't be a problem :)
[08:59] <cjwatson> darkxst: done
[08:59] <darkxst> cjwatson, thanks!
[13:09] <zul> can someone reject testresources please?
[13:56] <Trevinho> bdmurray: hey, could you please check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vdpau-video/+bug/1222790 again? the build failure should be fixed by https://bugs.launchpad.net/+branch/~3v1n0/ubuntu/trusty/vdpau-video/remove-va-constants/+merge/219436
[14:18] <bdmurray> Trevinho: by check do you mean you'd like me to merge and sponsor it or something else?
[14:19] <Trevinho> bdmurray: merge and sponsor :)
[14:20] <bdmurray> Trevinho: I'll try and get to it
[14:21] <Trevinho> bdmurray: thank you
[14:56] <rtg> I uploaded tboot-1.8.1 90 minutes ago and have yet to receive an email, nor can I see it in the Utopic queues. Any thoughts ?
[14:56] <rtg> Successfully uploaded tboot_1.8.1-0ubuntu1.dsc to upload.ubuntu.com for ubuntu.
[14:56] <rtg> Successfully uploaded tboot_1.8.1.orig.tar.gz to upload.ubuntu.com for ubuntu.
[14:56] <rtg> Successfully uploaded tboot_1.8.1-0ubuntu1.debian.tar.xz to upload.ubuntu.com for ubuntu.
[14:56] <rtg> Successfully uploaded tboot_1.8.1-0ubuntu1_source.changes to upload.ubuntu.com for ubuntu.
[14:56] <stgraber> there was some disk space problems with the ftpmaster around that time, might be related
[14:56] <stgraber> cjwatson: ^
[14:57] <rtg> stgraber, shall I just fire it up again ?
[14:57] <cjwatson> er, possibly, sorry
[14:57] <cjwatson> one sec
[14:57] <cjwatson> I'll just check the logs
[14:57] <cjwatson> 2014-06-10 13:28:10 DEBUG   dpkg-source failed for tboot_1.8.1-0ubuntu1.dsc [return: 29]
[14:57] <cjwatson> 2014-06-10 13:28:10 DEBUG   [dpkg-source output:   dpkg-source: info: extracting tboot in tboot-1.8.1
[14:58] <cjwatson> 2014-06-10 13:28:10 DEBUG     dpkg-source: info: unpacking tboot_1.8.1.orig.tar.gz]
[14:58] <cjwatson> yeah, sorry about that, just reupload
[14:58] <rtg> can do. thanks.
[14:58] <cjwatson> looks like the only affected upload
[14:58] <cjwatson> (I accidentally filled up /)
[14:58] <rtg> sucks to be me :)
[15:55] <arges> if something is in utopic-proposed (not sure how that happened), what process shoudl be used to get it into -updates? (looking at audacity fwiw)
[15:55] <cjwatson> nothing should go into utopic-updates
[15:55] <cjwatson> utopic-proposed is managed automatically by proposed-migration; you shouldn't touch it as an SRU admin
[15:56] <cjwatson> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#audacity
[15:56] <cjwatson> It's part of the big libav transition which needs to go in as a unit
[15:57] <cjwatson> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration to understand how this works
[15:59] <arges> cjwatson: thanks
[16:00] <cjwatson> ... since you're an archive admin, you shouldn't generally touch it manually as that either :)
[16:00] <cjwatson> it does sometimes need hints but those are usually handled by the release team
[16:01] <arges> cjwatson: well i was just going through the review queue and saw audacity sru for trusty, but it wasn't fixed for utopic and rmadison showed the utopic-proposed version.
[16:01] <cjwatson> right
[16:02] <cjwatson> but it would be actively harmful to copy it into utopic right now, as it'll be uninstallable until the whole of libav can land
[16:02] <arges> gotcha; i won't touch it : ) that's why I asked here
[16:02] <cjwatson> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/libav10.html  still some way to go by the looks of things :-/
[16:33] <Laney> arges: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/177112196/webkitgtk_2.4.3-1ubuntu2_source.changes has a bug reference already because I uploaded with -v
[16:33] <Laney> arges: Maybe we need to un-SRUify it?
[16:33] <Laney> (See Launchpad-Bugs-Fixed there)
[16:33] <arges> Laney: ahh sorry I just looked at the changelog
[16:34] <Laney> it's possible that the tool will think it's already in proposed
[16:44] <balloons> cjwatson, infinity perhaps someone else.. Do we archive the ubuntu-touch images in the same way as our desktop images? I need the manifests of some older builds that what is on cdimage atm
[16:45] <cjwatson> I don't archive the desktop images; I don't know who does
[16:45] <cjwatson> If all else fails, you can scrape the same data out of http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/ with a bit of work
[16:46] <cjwatson> And .../cd-build-logs/
[16:46] <Laney> arges: can you accept that from rejected or shall I reupload?
[16:46] <balloons> ty cjwatson
[16:47] <arges> cjwatson: can I accept an SRU from rejected (that I rejected)? or will that cause mass chaos
[16:48] <cjwatson> Should be fine
[16:59] <arges> Laney: re: 1326359, is it fixed for utopic or not?
[17:00] <Laney> arges: I see what you want me to do. :)
[17:00] <Laney> there we go
[17:00] <arges> Laney: cool. : ) just being careful on my end
[17:01] <arges> Laney: ok updated for trusty. sorry about all the confusion
[17:02] <Laney> no worries, thanks for looking again
[17:02] <Laney> denial of servicing a buildd network near you in 3, 2, 1
[17:06] <arges> hmm so webkitgtk was moved into Done; but I don't see it in rmadison yet and queuebot hasn't said anything yet
[17:07] <arges> anyway, listening to talk