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jcastroHello everyone!15:03
mbruzekhello15:03
josewhat the heck is juju?15:03
jcastrowelcome to getting started with juju!15:03
leftyfbhello15:03
garheadeHello15:03
kentbhola15:03
marcoceppio/15:03
mbruzekhttps://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/getting-started.html15:04
kentbyes15:04
mbruzekjuju quickstart for the WIN!15:08
mbruzekIf you have any questions please prefix them with QUESTION15:09
mbruzekhttps://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/config-local.html15:10
therealmarvhttps://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/config-LXC.html does not mention "juju init". Does "juju generate-config" does the same??15:11
therealmarvQUESTION https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/config-LXC.html does not mention "juju init". Does "juju generate-config" does the same?15:12
mbruzektherealmarv, yes They are the same15:12
mbruzekinit is just shorthand for that command15:12
mbruzek$ juju help generate-config15:13
mbruzekusage: juju init [options]15:13
mbruzekpurpose: generate boilerplate configuration for juju environments15:13
mbruzekJorge was giving a pro-tip to save you typing!15:13
therealmarvok... confusing for beginners ;) thanks15:14
* jose can read ok in a 360p resolution, which is default :)15:16
marcoceppitherealmarv: which makes more sense to you? juju init or juju generate-config ?15:20
kentbsudo lxc-ls?15:20
kentboh nm I see15:21
mbruzekkentb, the --fancy switch is nice15:21
therealmarvLXC: It takes some time on local... also here... especially on precise. Trusty is faster on local.15:21
kentbmbruzek: indeed.  lots more informative :)15:23
therealmarvmarcoceppi: juju init15:25
marcoceppitherealmarv: thanks for the feedback!15:25
leftyfbQUESTION: does 'juju quickstart' start up 2 completely new nodes?15:27
therealmarvQUESTION More status on precise LXC would be useful. First two times I thought Juju does not work on precise. It takes really about 5 minutes15:33
joseQUESTION: how do I deploy an specific type of instance on AWS?15:33
bmullanis there an easy way to deploy onto a Cloud (AWS, hp etc) but deploy juju-gui etc and on that Cloud deploy juju charms into lxc containers as you would in local provider??15:34
* jose deploys ALL the things on jcastro's gui!15:34
marcoceppibmullan: yes, you can deploy charms on to a cloud in LXC containers on machines in that cloud15:34
leftyfbQUESTION: so it's not really possible to deploy multiple cluster packages/services that share services (mysql, apache, etc) since each once is going to use default names (mysql)?15:40
mbruzekjose,  $ juju help constraints15:40
josembruzek: wanna keep that on video :) /me uses constraints daily15:40
josefor the aws free tier, they're awesome!15:40
mbruzekjose sure, we will talk about it15:40
jose:)15:41
mbruzekjose what constraints do you use to get an AWS micro?15:42
jose"cpu-power=0 mem=512M"15:42
marcoceppijcastro: flirts with danger by doing deploy --to with two php applications15:43
marcoceppiOH GOOD, he used LXC, whew15:43
jcastro<315:43
therealmarvQUESTION: How do I get juju pprint ? Which package is needed? Unrecognized command here15:45
mbruzekhttps://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/charms-constraints.html15:46
marcoceppitherealmarv: it's part of juju plugins15:48
marcoceppitherealmarv: https://github.com/juju/plugins/15:48
leftyfbQUESTION: What exactly does expose do? I there a locked down iptables ruleset in the cloud images and expose opens up ports?15:50
josejcastro: expose mediawiki15:50
mbruzekleftyfb, I believe expose uses AWS security settings to allow access to that node from the Internet15:51
marcoceppileftyfb: in case they run out of time, expose will open the ports the charm author has specified as required in the firewaller for the cloud provider15:51
leftyfbmbruzek: ah, it uses the cloud services rulesets. Not the local node15:51
marcoceppileftyfb: right, so local provider and maas don't have firewallers and as such all ports are always open15:52
leftyfbmarcoceppi: so with MAAS, there's no need to ever expose anything?15:52
marcoceppileftyfb: technically, yes, there's no need to expose anything15:52
leftyfbcan someone answer my 2nd question above regarding cluster packages?15:52
leftyfbQUESTION: so it's not really possible to deploy multiple cluster packages/services that share services (mysql, apache, etc) since each once is going to use default names (mysql)?15:53
marcoceppibut if you deployed openstack on maas, and use openstack as your provider for services, openstack has a firewaller (their eq of security groups) and it iwll work15:53
marcoceppileftyfb: you can actually share the same service15:53
marcoceppiso you can have one MySQL service shared between all your services15:53
marcoceppiand each service will get its own MySLQ database and user, etc15:53
marcoceppihowever, there's a limitation with bundles at the moment, where if you're deploying a bundle15:53
leftyfbmarcoceppi: it errored out for jcastro when he tried to deploy hadoop cluster package after he already had mysql15:53
marcoceppiand you have a service with that name already deployed it chokes15:54
marcoceppithis is just a juju-gui/bundles issue15:54
marcoceppiif you deploy bundles from teh command line it won't have this issue and will just re-use that mysql instance15:54
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marcoceppiEveryone, feel free to join #juju to continue the juju discussion!15:56
* marcoceppi thanks jcastro and mbruzek for presenting!15:56
tbrmoo16:09
=== ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-devops-1 to: Track: Cloud DevOps | The State of the Juju Charm Store | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/meeting/22238/the-state-of-the-juju-charm-store/
jamespageo/17:59
jcastrohello?18:00
marcoceppio/18:00
jamespageo/18:00
jcastrohttps://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYdk_oApTaoYDWAv5eeR9zK3n8oUHTI8sE1WL4RptTN0lOaLpQ?authuser=0&hl=en18:00
jcastroif anyone wants to hang out18:00
* lazyPower pulls up the track link18:01
marcoceppihttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/CloudArchive/18:14
sparkiegeekdid jamespage just use "lifecycle" as a verb?18:16
sparkiegeekI need my buzzword bingo card ;)18:16
josesparkiegeek: http://ubingo.libertus.co.uk/18:18
sparkiegeekjose: fantastic!18:19
josejcastro: I just did a quick review on reviewboard and looks good to me!18:30
sparkiegeek\o/18:31
sparkiegeekI'm addressing jose's nitpicks whilst listening to the session :)18:31
josehttp://ec2-107-21-20-155.compute-1.amazonaws.com/ admin:ubuntu18:32
marcoceppiAlso, https://code.launchpad.net/charms/bundles has a list of bundles18:36
jcastrohttps://jujucharms.com/bundle/~charmers/mongodb/5/cluster/18:37
jamespagehttps://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/charms/bundles/openstack-on-openstack/bundle18:39
jcastrosorry guys, plugin crash18:45
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mbruzekhttps://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/troubleshooting-local.html19:03
marcoceppihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuqFaTASBTE&list=UUm7OifwnZoMCChidCJZQruQ19:05
jcastrohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuqFaTASBTE19:05
marcoceppiNINJA'D!!!!19:06
marcoceppiHEEEYA19:06
marcoceppihttp://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1406-charm-schools-and-other-events19:08
josejcastro: ^19:09
josejcastro: summit looks like it's broken19:09
* jose hates delay19:10
josejcastro: can you host that charm school tomorrow at UoA?19:26
jcastroyes I would prefer that actually!19:26
joseI can schedule that and set you up19:26
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