[01:01] <diddledan> capitals ftl
[01:01] <diddledan> or should that be "FTL"?
[01:02] <daftykins> ;)
[01:29] <diddledan> I just found this: http://www.iflscience.com/space/free-flowing-water-discovered-equator-mars
[01:29] <diddledan> consider my mind well and truly blown
[05:32] <shauno> diddledan: you found water on mars?
[05:32] <diddledan> shauno: yeah
[05:33] <diddledan> shauno: obv I'm not the first to find it
[05:33] <shauno> That's going to ruin everything for me.  Now when an article says "scientists say" I'm going to assume they mean you
[07:31] <SuperMatt> word up peeps
[07:31] <Myrtti> oh noes
[07:31] <Myrtti> now I want to buy shoes :-|
[07:32] <SuperMatt> sorry
[07:32] <Myrtti> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nokian-Footwear-Julia-Lundsten-LU120-01-39/dp/B00F8MB6M6/
[07:32] <SuperMatt> those... are not pretty
[07:33] <Myrtti> would you rather in yellow?
[07:33] <SuperMatt> nope
[07:33] <SuperMatt> sorry
[07:33] <Myrtti> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nokian-Footwear-Julia-Lundsten-LUS123-78-40/dp/B00J2FB1TS ?
[07:33] <Myrtti> anyway, it's more about the functionality
[07:34] <Myrtti> they're not completely hideous like normal wellies, almost look like normal shoes, and not full length either
[07:35] <Myrtti> maybe with woollen socks they'd go for all terrain winter shoes in UK ;-)
[07:35]  * awilkins uses stompy military boots from Yorkshire as his daily shoe.
[07:36] <SuperMatt> I guess those second ones are more pretty
[07:36] <SuperMatt> I don't know, I'm just a guy
[07:36] <SuperMatt> I've got other things on my mind right now
[07:36] <awilkins> Guys can generally just get away with owning 2 or 3 pairs of shoes
[07:36] <Myrtti> awilkins: I just found http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nokian-Footwear-Julia-Lundsten-LU120-01-39/dp/B00F8MB6M6/
[07:37] <awilkins> Holy potato
[07:38] <awilkins> I know someone who'd love those. But if I spend that on a pair of shoes I expect them to be useful for virtually everything...
[07:39] <Myrtti> awilkins: well, they are wellies, so they'd pretty much be useful for virtually everything. They aren't obviously wellies...
[07:40] <Myrtti> might pass as normal shoes?
[07:40] <awilkins> Hmm, maybe
[07:40] <Myrtti> and I've actually paid more for shoes than what those are
[07:40] <awilkins> Oh, likewise, but only once :-)
[07:41] <Myrtti> contrary to many people I know I actually spend £amounts to shoes that have not just looks but usability and quality too, not just a 5 inch heel and pretty colour
[07:42] <Myrtti> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/3over7/the-wool-runners-no-socks-no-smell <--
[07:43] <awilkins> http://www.altberg.co.uk/product/warrior-aqua-black/   <- my current "shoes"
[07:44] <awilkins> The wooly shoes seem like a good idea
[07:45] <Myrtti> my kicks: http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/sksports1/407992-050_001_001.JPG
[08:01] <awilkins> See, they are veering into the territory of ostentatious
[08:01] <awilkins> I like my running shoes to be grey and nondescript and functional
[08:01] <Myrtti> I don't run :-P
[08:01] <awilkins> Which means that it's terribly difficult to actually find a pair that i) meets this requirement ii) fit iii) actually provide shock absorbance for running
[08:02] <awilkins> Last time I went shopping for runners I was gobsmacked by how LOUD they all ar
[08:02] <awilkins> e
[08:03] <awilkins> Backlight on my Windows laptop just failed. Thought this was impossible since it was an LED backlight.
[08:03] <awilkins> Suspect the graphics drivers are wrong.
[08:03] <bashrc> morning
[08:03] <Myrtti> ahhhhh bliss. Allergy medicine that works
[08:04] <awilkins> Very Strong Antihistamines?
[08:04] <awilkins> Topical corticosteroid spray?
[08:04] <Myrtti> no, just cetirizine, I just tried the other variants to see if they'd make me less groggy
[08:04] <Myrtti> that experiment failed because they didn't make me groggy but didn't work either
[08:15] <foobarry> so cetirizine > loratadine?
[08:15] <Myrtti> atleast in my use
[08:15] <foobarry> but make u tired
[08:16] <Myrtti> it's a coin toss
[08:16] <foobarry> email from google recruiter, with some funny copy pastes in a larger font
[08:17] <foobarry> coupled with your leadership qualities ($CURRENT EMPLOYER BIG FONT) looked relevant..
[08:17] <diddledan> foobarry: teh googles want to hire you?!
[08:18] <foobarry> rather google external recruiters are on a commission hunt
[08:18] <diddledan> aah
[08:33] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[08:33] <diddledan> allo
[08:35] <bashrc> had an email from a google recruiter about a year ago
[08:35] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:37] <diddledan> me too
[08:37] <diddledan> when I got around to actually responding the person appeared to have disappeared from google's mailserver
[08:37] <foobarry> lol
[08:37] <foobarry> recruiters be recruiters
[08:38] <foobarry> parasites somewhere in the region of estate agents
[08:38] <foobarry> but both above footballer's agents
[08:49] <diplo> Morning all
[09:05] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Iced Tea Day! :-D
[09:06] <directhex> iced tea sucks! iced coffee rules! woo!
[09:06] <bigcalm> I quite like estate agents - only because we're buying a house and not selling one :)
[09:07] <funkyHat> I would say that recruiters are a few rungs above estate agents
[09:12] <popey> dropped car off for MoT, walked back.. took an hour
[09:13] <popey> stopped off at the butcher to get some BBQ provisions along the way ☻
[09:13] <brobostigon> :)
[09:45] <cocoa117> after you changed the owner's belong group, how do you make it affect without actually logout?
[09:48] <popey> directhex: guessing that GTA5 will be "Windows" when it says "PC" in the Fall?
[09:48] <directhex> popey, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmostly guaranteed
[09:49] <directhex> popey, 2k, the publisher, are slowly on-board with steamos. but they're very hands-off with rockstar, and rockstar are not mac friendly. mac friendliness is a good indicator, in larger studios, of potential linux friendliness
[09:50] <popey> ☹
[09:53] <Laney> did they finally announce a ps4 release?
[09:55] <bigcalm> Anything exciting coming to the Wii U? :)
[09:56] <foobarry> $MARIO_GAME version=X++
[09:56] <Laney> Price: £64.99
[09:56] <Laney> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:00] <directhex> Laney, gta5? yes
[10:00] <directhex> bigcalm, nintendo's e3 presentation hasn't happened yet
[10:00] <Laney> yeah just found it
[10:01] <bigcalm> directhex: fair enough. I'm waiting for my Wii U to be delivered. Expecting Nintendo to go out of business once it gets here
[10:02] <directhex> the last game i properly played was on wiiu
[10:03] <directhex> and i have ac4 on wiiu to play
[10:08] <bigcalm> What's ac4?
[10:09] <Myrtti> Assassin's Creed
[10:09] <bigcalm> Ah
[10:09] <Myrtti> Assassin's Creed is brilliant.
[10:09] <bigcalm> They make "adult" games for the Wii?
[10:09] <Myrtti> I'm not sure how AC5 is going to pan out
[10:09] <Myrtti> the video of the gameplay they showed last night left me a bit bemused
[10:13] <popey> i was surprised the AI seemed dumb enough to let the player walk right up to all those soldiers
[10:14] <popey> No Man's Sky looks pretty
[10:14] <popey> I like open world type games, especially procedurally generated ones
[10:42] <directhex> bigcalm, attempts were made to make adult games for the wii, invariably they met financial disaster
[10:42] <directhex> bigcalm, e.g. check "madworld" on youtube
[10:42] <Myrtti> Assassin's Creed tho ♥
[10:50] <awilkins> No Man's Sky looks very ambitious, graphics style reminds me of Outcast
[10:51] <awilkins> If it's half as fun as the trailer it should be pretty fun
[11:04] <foobarry> remember that game spore?
[11:09] <davmor2> foobarry: the one with the rootkit?
[11:10] <awilkins> I remember Spore but never bought it
[11:13] <foobarry> lots of hype, nobody ever mentions it any more
[11:14] <foobarry> yeah i heard DRM killed it
[11:20] <bashrc> yeah it was a DRM-fest
[11:21] <bashrc> spore was disappointing and could have been a lot more interesting if they had real evolution going on
[11:21] <bashrc> i.e. a alife sumilation, but with a game element to it
[11:26] <popey> I quite like Godus
[13:15] <SuperEngineer> whooppee! at home for 2 days - doing a WBT thing but found out last night I can't log on till a remote prob gets sorted.
[13:17] <SuperEngineer> So last night I nerfed by home dir - proved it was useless - & overnight took the opportunity to see if not just my backup plan works, but my restore plan works.  It does!
[13:18] <SuperEngineer> So now I have taken the chance to remove 12.04 & separate home partition [with all restore proved] ;)
[13:18] <SuperEngineer> ...and I am now a 14.04 user!
[13:18] <bigcalm> Welcome to the club
[13:18] <SuperEngineer> bigcalm: thanks
[13:20] <daftykins> i need to work out what all the changes are in samba since 10.04 at some point
[13:20] <daftykins> i tried to set up a test share on a system the other day to no avail X|
[13:21] <SuperEngineer> [only disappointment I have - outwighed by many "happies" though - is that I have come to rely on compiz Expo and shunting the mouse to one corner to show all workspaces... this looses it's "setting" after reboots [though it's still there in compiz manager so I have to reset it to the same as it was, doh!]
[13:23]  * SuperEngineer wtches progress bar for Steam install - & ponders wether to download the games again or hope the old steamapps folder will be recognised... nbah! let's make the broadbanddo some work] ;)
[13:24] <daftykins> is English not your mother tongue? ;)
[13:26] <foobarry> ok i been trying to read a pdf on screen for an hour and i'm on page 7
[13:26] <foobarry> fortunately there's a mobi to read on my ebook reader
[13:27] <foobarry> even swivelling the screen to portrait mode helped not.
[13:27] <daftykins> can be pretty easy to lose place on a screen eh?
[13:27] <foobarry> just not conducive for reading books
[13:27] <Myrtti> Fujifilm X-S1 on Amazon flash sale now for 225, if anyone's interested
[13:29] <daftykins> wow
[13:30] <daftykins> although i don't do cameras
[13:31] <Myrtti> I seem to just order weird stuff that I can't find anywhere else
[13:31] <Myrtti> and in bulk.
[13:32] <Myrtti> case in point my latest order
[13:33] <daftykins> a billion toilet paper rolls?
[13:33] <Myrtti> Citric Acid 1Kg Bulk Tub,  2 x Unibond 450g Humidity Absorber Power Tab Refills (Pack of 2), Gall soap (2 pcs. x 100 gr.), set of 5 baroque pearl elastic bracelets.
[13:34] <daftykins> wat
[13:34] <Myrtti> citric acid, for cleaning both the laundry and dish washing machines
[13:34] <Myrtti> humidity absorber tabs, because no diy store seems to stock them anymore
[13:35] <SuperEngineer> daftykins: English most def is my mother [& father tongue - no sexism from me!] - keyboarding is unfortunately not always wonderful - used to be but following a r-e-a-l-l-y bad car crash yonks ago - I type one thing & sometimes it comes out as another thing - I have learned to find it funny
[13:35] <Myrtti> gall soap to get rid of sweat stains in dsample's work shirts
[13:35] <daftykins> SuperEngineer: ah :) my apologies
[13:35] <Myrtti> baroque pearl elastic bracelets, because I broke my friendship bracelet I had on my wrist for months
[13:35] <SuperEngineer> daftykins: none need - like I said -  I have learned to find it funny
[13:36] <SuperEngineer> *needed
[13:36] <SuperEngineer> ;)
[13:36] <Myrtti> I understood that perfek :-P
[13:37] <Myrtti> or should I say perfick
[13:37] <davmor2> ah fentimans ginger beer the best
[13:37] <Myrtti> alcoholic?
[13:38] <SuperEngineer> Myrtti: only if you lean on a non-existant bar counter and do the complete fall down bit :P
[13:39] <daftykins> XD
[13:39] <daftykins> "Know what I mean?"
[13:40] <davmor2> Myrtti: only very mildly it's more of a pop than crabbies 0.05% or something like
[13:41] <Myrtti> davmor2: I couldn't find the Crabbies alcoholic one in Finland but I could find Fentimans, oddly enough. Price was a bit steep but I liked it and I was doing the Swedish chipboard puzzle so I felt like something better than the bogstandard Finnish sweet cider was in order
[13:41] <Myrtti> installation fuel, so to say
[13:43] <davmor2> Myrtti: yeah Fentimans is damned expensive here I bought a create at the wholesalers though which saved a fair bit of money :)
[15:03] <foobarry> so goat simluator is real?
[15:05] <daftykins> sure
[15:07] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: And hilarious looking.
[15:13] <foobarry> thought it was an april fool joke
[15:14] <daftykins> find videos of the guy 'Robbaz' playing it on youtube
[15:14] <daftykins> he seems quite amusing
[17:28] <diddledan> hmm, I'm struggling with ipsec tunnelling
[17:29] <diddledan> it might be easier if I did it strongswan-to-strongswan rather than mikrotik to swan
[17:34] <directhex> civ5 linux now shipping
[17:35] <mapps> HEY ALL
[17:35] <mapps> civ?
[17:36] <daftykins> civilisation
[17:37] <mapps> aha
[17:37] <mapps> whats that
[17:37] <shauno> o_O
[17:37] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/txvpeyk728i45h7/IMG_20140610_181424.jpg
[17:38] <daftykins> today's craptop, is a Toshiba
[17:38] <mapps> damn my nets slow atm
[17:38] <mapps> what u doing with it
[17:40] <daftykins> so it's allegedly powering off during use... yet i ran prime95 to max temps and it seems fine :/
[17:40] <daftykins> the vents were totally clear already so it's not simple heat
[17:40]  * Myrtti prods dsample to fire up Xchat
[17:41] <mapps> any ideas about my craptop..the old dell that sounds like a freaking plane..took it apart and it aint the fan
[17:41] <daftykins> how'd you confirm that?
[17:43] <mapps> the fan wasnt turning iirc and it was still making this crazy noise
[17:43] <mapps> could it be the PSU?
[17:43] <daftykins> that would be the brick outside of it.
[17:43] <mapps> what do you mean?
[17:44] <daftykins> so i'd hope you could tell which part the sound was coming from :D
[17:44] <mapps> well
[17:44] <mapps> it wasnt the fan
[17:44] <mapps> thats for sure
[17:44] <daftykins> the AC adapter brick is the equivalent of the PSU in a way
[17:44] <mapps> theres no battery in it
[17:44] <mapps> as the battery died
[17:44] <daftykins> pulled the drives?
[17:44] <mapps> hdd and dvd?
[17:44] <mapps> i didnt no
[17:44] <daftykins> run a liveUSB of a Linux whilst no other drives are in
[17:45] <daftykins> not so much optical, just HDD really
[17:45] <mapps> aha
[17:45] <mapps> ok thatl be the next call
[17:45] <mapps> if its the PSU on the mobo? i guess its a bin job
[17:45] <mapps> ?
[17:47] <daftykins> laptops don't really work that way :D
[17:47] <daftykins> is it a rushing of air sound?
[17:47] <mapps> il link it to u
[17:47] <mapps> sec
[17:49] <mapps> might format my netbook before i go away
[17:49] <mapps> czech rep on friday:D
[17:49] <daftykins> wow that is... non-descript
[17:49] <mapps> ??
[17:50] <daftykins> that sound is not obvious
[17:50] <mapps> yea
[17:50] <mapps> its mnot the fan tho
[17:51] <daftykins> must be a small lego man doing pneumatic drill work inside there
[17:51] <daftykins> :>
[17:51] <daftykins> yeah i'd pull drives, get it down to the most basic config
[17:51] <daftykins> is it actually failing to function or is it just that noise?
[17:51] <Myrtti> daftykins: thanks for the dd reminder, the laptop booted now to the usb proper
[17:51] <daftykins> \o/
[17:51] <daftykins> yay for winning
[17:54] <mapps> it works daftykins
[17:54] <mapps> boots up into centos and all is fine
[17:54] <mapps> except that noise;p
[17:54] <daftykins> and running CentOS
[17:54] <daftykins> ;D
[17:54] <daftykins> clearly you just miss the ECE department
[17:54] <mapps> lol
[17:54] <mapps> yes
[17:54] <mapps> :D
[17:55] <daftykins> £13.19 for a 12 gramme tube of arctic silver 5 delivered
[17:55] <daftykins> day-um
[17:55] <mapps> but yea it works fine...except the pesky noise
[17:55] <mapps> it isnt the fan clearly..cant be the hdd surely? as its booting off the hdd?
[17:55] <mapps> you say laptops work diff when i mention a PSU there must be some kinda PSU..could it be that?
[17:55] <ali1234> it can be the HD
[17:55] <daftykins> well they tend to be solid state components
[17:56] <daftykins> (power regulation stuffs)
[17:56] <ali1234> it can also be another fan
[17:56] <daftykins> link ali1234 to the sound, he knows electronics more than me
[17:56] <mapps> hmm
[17:56] <ali1234> or it can be the DC-DC coils whining
[17:56] <mapps> https://soundcloud.com/mapito/pc
[17:56] <mapps> in all its glory
[17:56] <daftykins> then be ready to pause at the end as it drops into music
[17:56] <daftykins> :>
[17:56] <ali1234> wow
[17:56] <ali1234> that's not the HD
[17:56] <mapps> lol daftykins
[17:57] <ali1234> and it doesn't sound like a fan either
[17:57] <daftykins> it sounds like an angry iguana
[17:57] <mapps> any suggestions
[17:57] <mapps> :<
[17:57] <ali1234> that actually sounds like the PC speaker
[17:57] <daftykins> ooh yeah that's a fair point
[17:57] <mapps> so maybe i should disconnect that? i assume i can
[17:57] <mapps> i didnt even think of that
[17:57] <mapps> lol
[17:57] <ali1234> well just put your finger on it
[17:58] <mapps> ok not sure where it is, i guess its obvious O_o
[17:58] <ali1234> it's wherever the sound is coming from...
[17:58] <daftykins> XD
[17:59] <mapps> unless its not the speaker;p
[17:59] <mapps> heh
[17:59] <ali1234> it probably doesn't have a PC speaker if it's a laptop
[17:59] <ali1234> could be a sound card issue though
[17:59] <mapps> yea it is a laptop
[17:59] <ali1234> have you also got photos?
[18:00] <mapps> of the internals of the laptop? nope
[18:00] <mapps> didnt think about it
[18:00] <ali1234> best bet is to just feel around for where the noise is coming from
[18:00] <mapps> ok will do, thanks:D a job for tomorrow..i put it all back together just tokeep it together heh
[18:01] <ali1234> the sound is too regular to come from the HD... and it's too bassy to come from a fan... it sounds like a speaker being hit by an overpowered square wave... like a flapping sound
[18:01] <ali1234> PC speaker is of course driven by square wave, but it could also be the sound card
[18:02] <awilkins> Cable dangling in a fan?
[18:02] <ali1234> what does it sound like when you turn it on?
[18:02] <ali1234> does it instantly start making that noise or does it slowly get louder? or faster?
[18:02] <mapps> its ok at first then after 30sec-a minute noise starts
[18:03] <mapps> it can start quicker than that but usuall after say 15-20sec
[18:03] <mapps> starts the noise like it is instantly
[18:03] <ali1234> that makes me think it isn't mechanical
[18:03] <ali1234> and it coming from the speakers
[18:04] <ali1234> (cos if it's not mechanical there's nothing else that could make a sound like that other than a speaker)
[18:05] <ali1234> unless... could be the cdrom if you have one?
[18:05] <mapps> yea there is one
[18:06] <ali1234> it's unlikely though... the sound is just too bassy
[18:08] <ali1234> actually... if the fan isn't spinning at all it maybe could make that noise
[18:08] <ali1234> if it was jammed or something
[18:12] <mapps> ah
[18:17] <SuperEngineer> Well that's 12.04 wiped & 14.04 in. Installed, configured, extras downloaded & configured - all sorted [except for Steam games.. that'll happen will I sleep tonight] ;)
[18:18] <SuperEngineer> 14.04 - Approved by SuperEngineer - ythat's official folks
[18:18] <daftykins> \o/
[18:18] <SuperEngineer> *that's
[18:19] <SuperEngineer> only minus points - missing status bar in nautilus & lifrea [Linux Feed Reader] will *not* keep it's settings.  I can live with that.
[18:20] <mapps> :D
[18:20] <mapps> what was it you put on a netbook?
[18:20] <mapps> thought it was you..cant remember
[18:20]  * SuperEngineer applauds all the devs & contibutors
[18:20] <SuperEngineer> mapps: yup
[18:21] <SuperEngineer> that's the one with Lubuntu on it
[18:21] <mapps> ah cool
[18:21] <mapps> just normal rls no netbook specific?
[18:21]  * SuperEngineer runs Ubuntu on desktop, Xubuntu on HP mini, Lubuntu on Asus netbook
[18:21] <mapps> ;]
[18:23] <SuperEngineer> ...proof of "a buntu for all seasons" :)
[18:23] <SuperEngineer> got a pooter - we got a buntu just for you!
[18:24] <mapps> i got ubuntu on laptop/desktop well xubuntu on old desktop/server :)
[18:27] <SuperEngineer> hah! tomaaato, tom*a*to - it's a darn tasty thing to eat ;)
[18:28] <mapps> i need to get a new router/modem or combo so i can put openWRT/ddwrt on..whats everyone use?7
[18:30] <SuperEngineer> mapps: I need to get a new boxing glove & smack the person who's using my "borrowed"!  Speed atm is atrocious - was brilliant earlier.
[18:31] <directhex> mapps, civilzation is the most famous game in the "4x" genre - a turn based world exploration/conquering game
[18:31] <SuperEngineer> [borrowing the secure broadband from people nearby - preesie for looking after it for them]
[18:32] <mapps> heh
[18:32] <mapps> anyone got any recommendations? dont really want a seperate router/modem but think i may have to?
[18:33] <directhex> separates overheat & die less
[18:33] <mapps> hm
[18:33] <mapps> just feels like itd be hard work:)
[18:36] <SuperEngineer> Q/ why does CCSM still call the Unity plugin "experimental"?
[18:36] <mapps> ccsm?
[18:37] <SuperEngineer> compiz config settings manager
[18:37] <mapps> ah duh
[18:37] <SuperEngineer> [& solved the problem with expo - it now *hates* top corner & *loves* the *bottom* left corner!... muscle retraining as we speak!]
[18:41] <Myrtti> daftykins: success \o/ reinstalled \o/
[18:43] <daftykins> yay \o/
[19:06] <foobarry> there is a tv programme where a bunch of US girls think they are competing to date prince harry, but its a lookalike :-|
[19:07] <foobarry> tv has reached new lows
[19:07]  * SuperEngineer kisses the external drive & powers it off - job well done mate. ta
[19:08]  * SuperEngineer worries about talking to hardware ;)
[19:13] <SuperEngineer> hmmm -worried. Just went to install Wine and it insists that "nVidia opencl driver and icd loader driver" MUST be removed.  Worreeeeeed!  any clues?
[19:13] <daftykins> why WINE ;_;
[19:13] <ali1234> most likely a problem with 32 bit libraries
[19:14] <SuperEngineer> daftykins: I hace a few [very old] win games * a couple of apps that I really would like to be available
[19:14] <SuperEngineer> ali1234: so safe to allow?
[19:15] <ali1234> no idea
[19:15] <ali1234> show the full output
[19:15] <SuperEngineer> ali1234: at least thayt's an honest answer ;)
[19:22] <SuperEngineer> ali1234: I was about to show a full screenshot - but can't find where the heck it got saved to! [need top download Shutter to get the control I want - doing it now]... or was there some text file you thinking of?
[19:23] <SuperEngineer> don't see why there would be any text - this is just on requesting Wine - nothing yet happened
[19:27] <SuperEngineer> wth - installing it anyway ;)
[19:51] <mapps> hm
[19:51] <mapps> how do i root a sony xperia z2
[19:51] <daftykins> for why?
[19:52] <mapps> so can access a usb key
[19:52] <daftykins> wat
[19:53] <mapps> ?
[19:53] <mapps> well
[19:53] <mapps> u cant access a usb storage device else
[19:53] <daftykins> bit of an odd use-case
[19:54] <daftykins> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTb7IhrGQw8
[19:54] <mapps> well thats it ;p
[19:54] <mapps> its my friend anyway not me
[19:54] <mapps> it looks confusing
[19:54] <mapps> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2440597
[19:54] <daftykins> video states that USB on-the-go support is there as stock
[19:55] <mapps> hm
[19:55] <mapps> it is
[19:56] <daftykins> does he have that cable? :>
[19:56] <daftykins> you really don't want to go modding someone elses phone
[19:56] <mapps> yea
[19:56] <mapps> agree
[19:58] <mapps> whats the diff between these usb host OTG cables and a normal like mini usb -> regular cable?
[19:59] <daftykins> standard charging cable is the wrong gender
[19:59] <daftykins> charging = female, OTG = male
[19:59] <daftykins> not sure if there's any electrical difference, i doubt it
[19:59] <mapps> he said it came with a mini usb cable -> regula that can plug a usb key into it
[19:59] <mapps> aint that the same as host otg?
[20:01] <daftykins> dunno, depends what it's labelled as
[20:01] <daftykins> that'd be a tad surprising, i'd expect them to be aftermarket only
[20:02] <mapps> yea
[20:03] <daftykins> but yeah i'd bet the storage settings have to be looked at, the format of the USB flash drive has to be good and so on
[20:03] <mapps> can you recommend any decent sites for linux tutorials/videos like learning stuff or podcasts although i find podcasts hard to keep up with
[20:03] <mapps> ah yea
[20:11] <mapps> pah guess not ...;p
[20:11] <mapps> off to work in a sec..but got nothig to do for hoursssssss..so can come on irc:D
[20:14] <daftykins> dunno man, my recent assistance of a guy's little home web server involved 4hrs with me and a notepad writing up notes as to getting 14.04 going
[20:14] <daftykins> a few differences to ye olde 10.04 that i wanted to document for future reference
[20:14] <daftykins> at some point i need to carry on, with samba since it seems to have changed enough for me usual approach to not work
[20:16] <mapps> ya i need to setup samba
[22:53] <daftykins> hmm
[22:53] <daftykins> oh dear midnight already
[22:53] <daftykins> perhaps time for a Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons episode :D
[22:55] <popey> O O
[22:55] <popey>                       O O
[22:55] <popey>                                                    O O
[22:55] <daftykins> :D
[22:55] <daftykins> nicely done
[22:57] <daftykins> Captain Black looks like he hasn't slept in a year
[23:01] <popey> I used to work with someone who looked exactly like captain scarlet
[23:02] <popey> he had a perma 5'o clock shadow and perfect plastic hair
[23:02] <popey> also chiseled face
[23:03] <daftykins> hahaha
[23:03] <daftykins> was there a nickname?
[23:49] <maps|wrl> hello
[23:49] <diddledan> morning maps|wrk
[23:49] <maps|wrk> :)
[23:50] <maps|wrk> watching these tyger does docs on bbc iplayer
[23:50] <maps|wrk> tyger does' the perfect body and lol theyre in newcastle talking about tanning injections and he says 'so are you Caucasian,' 'na im white british me'
[23:50] <maps|wrk> lol
[23:51] <daftykins> don't know who that is
[23:52] <maps|wrk> its some guy that does documentaries for the BBC ..the funny thing was the fool that answered his question
[23:52] <maps|wrk> he thought caucasian was 'some kind of asian' :)
[23:52] <daftykins> firefox 30.0 O_O