[01:01] capitals ftl [01:01] or should that be "FTL"? [01:02] ;) [01:29] I just found this: http://www.iflscience.com/space/free-flowing-water-discovered-equator-mars [01:29] consider my mind well and truly blown [05:32] diddledan: you found water on mars? [05:32] shauno: yeah [05:33] shauno: obv I'm not the first to find it [05:33] That's going to ruin everything for me. Now when an article says "scientists say" I'm going to assume they mean you [07:31] word up peeps [07:31] oh noes [07:31] now I want to buy shoes :-| [07:32] sorry [07:32] http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nokian-Footwear-Julia-Lundsten-LU120-01-39/dp/B00F8MB6M6/ [07:32] those... are not pretty [07:33] would you rather in yellow? [07:33] nope [07:33] sorry [07:33] http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nokian-Footwear-Julia-Lundsten-LUS123-78-40/dp/B00J2FB1TS ? [07:33] anyway, it's more about the functionality [07:34] they're not completely hideous like normal wellies, almost look like normal shoes, and not full length either [07:35] maybe with woollen socks they'd go for all terrain winter shoes in UK ;-) [07:35] * awilkins uses stompy military boots from Yorkshire as his daily shoe. [07:36] I guess those second ones are more pretty [07:36] I don't know, I'm just a guy [07:36] I've got other things on my mind right now [07:36] Guys can generally just get away with owning 2 or 3 pairs of shoes [07:36] awilkins: I just found http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nokian-Footwear-Julia-Lundsten-LU120-01-39/dp/B00F8MB6M6/ [07:37] Holy potato [07:38] I know someone who'd love those. But if I spend that on a pair of shoes I expect them to be useful for virtually everything... [07:39] awilkins: well, they are wellies, so they'd pretty much be useful for virtually everything. They aren't obviously wellies... [07:40] might pass as normal shoes? [07:40] Hmm, maybe [07:40] and I've actually paid more for shoes than what those are [07:40] Oh, likewise, but only once :-) [07:41] contrary to many people I know I actually spend £amounts to shoes that have not just looks but usability and quality too, not just a 5 inch heel and pretty colour [07:42] https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/3over7/the-wool-runners-no-socks-no-smell <-- [07:43] http://www.altberg.co.uk/product/warrior-aqua-black/ <- my current "shoes" [07:44] The wooly shoes seem like a good idea [07:45] my kicks: http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/sksports1/407992-050_001_001.JPG === msm is now known as Guest77845 [08:01] See, they are veering into the territory of ostentatious [08:01] I like my running shoes to be grey and nondescript and functional [08:01] I don't run :-P [08:01] Which means that it's terribly difficult to actually find a pair that i) meets this requirement ii) fit iii) actually provide shock absorbance for running [08:02] Last time I went shopping for runners I was gobsmacked by how LOUD they all ar [08:02] e [08:03] Backlight on my Windows laptop just failed. Thought this was impossible since it was an LED backlight. [08:03] Suspect the graphics drivers are wrong. [08:03] morning [08:03] ahhhhh bliss. Allergy medicine that works [08:04] Very Strong Antihistamines? [08:04] Topical corticosteroid spray? === Guest77845 is now known as msm_ [08:04] no, just cetirizine, I just tried the other variants to see if they'd make me less groggy [08:04] that experiment failed because they didn't make me groggy but didn't work either [08:15] so cetirizine > loratadine? [08:15] atleast in my use [08:15] but make u tired [08:16] it's a coin toss [08:16] email from google recruiter, with some funny copy pastes in a larger font [08:17] coupled with your leadership qualities ($CURRENT EMPLOYER BIG FONT) looked relevant.. [08:17] foobarry: teh googles want to hire you?! [08:18] rather google external recruiters are on a commission hunt [08:18] aah [08:33] Good morning peeps :) [08:33] allo [08:35] had an email from a google recruiter about a year ago [08:35] morning boys and girls. [08:37] me too [08:37] when I got around to actually responding the person appeared to have disappeared from google's mailserver [08:37] lol [08:37] recruiters be recruiters [08:38] parasites somewhere in the region of estate agents [08:38] but both above footballer's agents [08:49] Morning all [09:05] Good morning all; happy Iced Tea Day! :-D [09:06] iced tea sucks! iced coffee rules! woo! [09:06] I quite like estate agents - only because we're buying a house and not selling one :) [09:07] I would say that recruiters are a few rungs above estate agents [09:12] dropped car off for MoT, walked back.. took an hour [09:13] stopped off at the butcher to get some BBQ provisions along the way ☻ [09:13] :) [09:45] after you changed the owner's belong group, how do you make it affect without actually logout? [09:48] directhex: guessing that GTA5 will be "Windows" when it says "PC" in the Fall? [09:48] popey, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmostly guaranteed [09:49] popey, 2k, the publisher, are slowly on-board with steamos. but they're very hands-off with rockstar, and rockstar are not mac friendly. mac friendliness is a good indicator, in larger studios, of potential linux friendliness [09:50] ☹ [09:53] did they finally announce a ps4 release? [09:55] Anything exciting coming to the Wii U? :) [09:56] $MARIO_GAME version=X++ [09:56] Price: £64.99 [09:56] !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [10:00] Laney, gta5? yes [10:00] bigcalm, nintendo's e3 presentation hasn't happened yet [10:00] yeah just found it [10:01] directhex: fair enough. I'm waiting for my Wii U to be delivered. Expecting Nintendo to go out of business once it gets here [10:02] the last game i properly played was on wiiu [10:03] and i have ac4 on wiiu to play [10:08] What's ac4? [10:09] Assassin's Creed [10:09] Ah [10:09] Assassin's Creed is brilliant. [10:09] They make "adult" games for the Wii? [10:09] I'm not sure how AC5 is going to pan out [10:09] the video of the gameplay they showed last night left me a bit bemused [10:13] i was surprised the AI seemed dumb enough to let the player walk right up to all those soldiers [10:14] No Man's Sky looks pretty [10:14] I like open world type games, especially procedurally generated ones [10:42] bigcalm, attempts were made to make adult games for the wii, invariably they met financial disaster [10:42] bigcalm, e.g. check "madworld" on youtube [10:42] Assassin's Creed tho ♥ [10:50] No Man's Sky looks very ambitious, graphics style reminds me of Outcast [10:51] If it's half as fun as the trailer it should be pretty fun [11:04] remember that game spore? [11:09] foobarry: the one with the rootkit? [11:10] I remember Spore but never bought it [11:13] lots of hype, nobody ever mentions it any more [11:14] yeah i heard DRM killed it [11:20] yeah it was a DRM-fest [11:21] spore was disappointing and could have been a lot more interesting if they had real evolution going on [11:21] i.e. a alife sumilation, but with a game element to it [11:26] I quite like Godus === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [13:15] whooppee! at home for 2 days - doing a WBT thing but found out last night I can't log on till a remote prob gets sorted. [13:17] So last night I nerfed by home dir - proved it was useless - & overnight took the opportunity to see if not just my backup plan works, but my restore plan works. It does! [13:18] So now I have taken the chance to remove 12.04 & separate home partition [with all restore proved] ;) [13:18] ...and I am now a 14.04 user! [13:18] Welcome to the club [13:18] bigcalm: thanks [13:20] i need to work out what all the changes are in samba since 10.04 at some point [13:20] i tried to set up a test share on a system the other day to no avail X| [13:21] [only disappointment I have - outwighed by many "happies" though - is that I have come to rely on compiz Expo and shunting the mouse to one corner to show all workspaces... this looses it's "setting" after reboots [though it's still there in compiz manager so I have to reset it to the same as it was, doh!] [13:23] * SuperEngineer wtches progress bar for Steam install - & ponders wether to download the games again or hope the old steamapps folder will be recognised... nbah! let's make the broadbanddo some work] ;) [13:24] is English not your mother tongue? ;) [13:26] ok i been trying to read a pdf on screen for an hour and i'm on page 7 [13:26] fortunately there's a mobi to read on my ebook reader [13:27] even swivelling the screen to portrait mode helped not. [13:27] can be pretty easy to lose place on a screen eh? [13:27] just not conducive for reading books [13:27] Fujifilm X-S1 on Amazon flash sale now for 225, if anyone's interested [13:29] wow [13:30] although i don't do cameras [13:31] I seem to just order weird stuff that I can't find anywhere else [13:31] and in bulk. [13:32] case in point my latest order [13:33] a billion toilet paper rolls? [13:33] Citric Acid 1Kg Bulk Tub, 2 x Unibond 450g Humidity Absorber Power Tab Refills (Pack of 2), Gall soap (2 pcs. x 100 gr.), set of 5 baroque pearl elastic bracelets. [13:34] wat [13:34] citric acid, for cleaning both the laundry and dish washing machines [13:34] humidity absorber tabs, because no diy store seems to stock them anymore [13:35] daftykins: English most def is my mother [& father tongue - no sexism from me!] - keyboarding is unfortunately not always wonderful - used to be but following a r-e-a-l-l-y bad car crash yonks ago - I type one thing & sometimes it comes out as another thing - I have learned to find it funny [13:35] gall soap to get rid of sweat stains in dsample's work shirts [13:35] SuperEngineer: ah :) my apologies [13:35] baroque pearl elastic bracelets, because I broke my friendship bracelet I had on my wrist for months [13:35] daftykins: none need - like I said - I have learned to find it funny [13:36] *needed [13:36] ;) [13:36] I understood that perfek :-P [13:37] or should I say perfick [13:37] ah fentimans ginger beer the best [13:37] alcoholic? [13:38] Myrtti: only if you lean on a non-existant bar counter and do the complete fall down bit :P [13:39] XD [13:39] "Know what I mean?" [13:40] Myrtti: only very mildly it's more of a pop than crabbies 0.05% or something like [13:41] davmor2: I couldn't find the Crabbies alcoholic one in Finland but I could find Fentimans, oddly enough. Price was a bit steep but I liked it and I was doing the Swedish chipboard puzzle so I felt like something better than the bogstandard Finnish sweet cider was in order [13:41] installation fuel, so to say [13:43] Myrtti: yeah Fentimans is damned expensive here I bought a create at the wholesalers though which saved a fair bit of money :) === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g [15:03] so goat simluator is real? [15:05] sure [15:07] foobarry: And hilarious looking. [15:13] thought it was an april fool joke [15:14] find videos of the guy 'Robbaz' playing it on youtube [15:14] he seems quite amusing === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [17:28] hmm, I'm struggling with ipsec tunnelling [17:29] it might be easier if I did it strongswan-to-strongswan rather than mikrotik to swan [17:34] civ5 linux now shipping [17:35] HEY ALL [17:35] civ? [17:36] civilisation [17:37] aha [17:37] whats that [17:37] o_O [17:37] https://www.dropbox.com/s/txvpeyk728i45h7/IMG_20140610_181424.jpg [17:38] today's craptop, is a Toshiba [17:38] damn my nets slow atm [17:38] what u doing with it [17:40] so it's allegedly powering off during use... yet i ran prime95 to max temps and it seems fine :/ [17:40] the vents were totally clear already so it's not simple heat [17:40] * Myrtti prods dsample to fire up Xchat [17:41] any ideas about my craptop..the old dell that sounds like a freaking plane..took it apart and it aint the fan [17:41] how'd you confirm that? [17:43] the fan wasnt turning iirc and it was still making this crazy noise [17:43] could it be the PSU? [17:43] that would be the brick outside of it. [17:43] what do you mean? [17:44] so i'd hope you could tell which part the sound was coming from :D [17:44] well [17:44] it wasnt the fan [17:44] thats for sure [17:44] the AC adapter brick is the equivalent of the PSU in a way [17:44] theres no battery in it [17:44] as the battery died [17:44] pulled the drives? [17:44] hdd and dvd? [17:44] i didnt no [17:44] run a liveUSB of a Linux whilst no other drives are in [17:45] not so much optical, just HDD really [17:45] aha [17:45] ok thatl be the next call [17:45] if its the PSU on the mobo? i guess its a bin job [17:45] ? [17:47] laptops don't really work that way :D [17:47] is it a rushing of air sound? [17:47] il link it to u [17:47] sec [17:49] might format my netbook before i go away [17:49] czech rep on friday:D [17:49] wow that is... non-descript [17:49] ?? [17:50] that sound is not obvious [17:50] yea [17:50] its mnot the fan tho [17:51] must be a small lego man doing pneumatic drill work inside there [17:51] :> [17:51] yeah i'd pull drives, get it down to the most basic config [17:51] is it actually failing to function or is it just that noise? [17:51] daftykins: thanks for the dd reminder, the laptop booted now to the usb proper [17:51] \o/ [17:51] yay for winning [17:54] it works daftykins [17:54] boots up into centos and all is fine [17:54] except that noise;p [17:54] and running CentOS [17:54] ;D [17:54] clearly you just miss the ECE department [17:54] lol [17:54] yes [17:54] :D [17:55] £13.19 for a 12 gramme tube of arctic silver 5 delivered [17:55] day-um [17:55] but yea it works fine...except the pesky noise [17:55] it isnt the fan clearly..cant be the hdd surely? as its booting off the hdd? [17:55] you say laptops work diff when i mention a PSU there must be some kinda PSU..could it be that? [17:55] it can be the HD [17:55] well they tend to be solid state components [17:56] (power regulation stuffs) [17:56] it can also be another fan [17:56] link ali1234 to the sound, he knows electronics more than me [17:56] hmm [17:56] or it can be the DC-DC coils whining [17:56] https://soundcloud.com/mapito/pc [17:56] in all its glory [17:56] then be ready to pause at the end as it drops into music [17:56] :> [17:56] wow [17:56] that's not the HD [17:56] lol daftykins [17:57] and it doesn't sound like a fan either [17:57] it sounds like an angry iguana [17:57] any suggestions [17:57] :< [17:57] that actually sounds like the PC speaker [17:57] ooh yeah that's a fair point [17:57] so maybe i should disconnect that? i assume i can [17:57] i didnt even think of that [17:57] lol [17:57] well just put your finger on it [17:58] ok not sure where it is, i guess its obvious O_o [17:58] it's wherever the sound is coming from... [17:58] XD [17:59] unless its not the speaker;p [17:59] heh [17:59] it probably doesn't have a PC speaker if it's a laptop [17:59] could be a sound card issue though [17:59] yea it is a laptop [17:59] have you also got photos? [18:00] of the internals of the laptop? nope [18:00] didnt think about it [18:00] best bet is to just feel around for where the noise is coming from [18:00] ok will do, thanks:D a job for tomorrow..i put it all back together just tokeep it together heh [18:01] the sound is too regular to come from the HD... and it's too bassy to come from a fan... it sounds like a speaker being hit by an overpowered square wave... like a flapping sound [18:01] PC speaker is of course driven by square wave, but it could also be the sound card [18:02] Cable dangling in a fan? [18:02] what does it sound like when you turn it on? [18:02] does it instantly start making that noise or does it slowly get louder? or faster? [18:02] its ok at first then after 30sec-a minute noise starts [18:03] it can start quicker than that but usuall after say 15-20sec [18:03] starts the noise like it is instantly [18:03] that makes me think it isn't mechanical [18:03] and it coming from the speakers [18:04] (cos if it's not mechanical there's nothing else that could make a sound like that other than a speaker) [18:05] unless... could be the cdrom if you have one? [18:05] yea there is one [18:06] it's unlikely though... the sound is just too bassy [18:08] actually... if the fan isn't spinning at all it maybe could make that noise [18:08] if it was jammed or something === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [18:12] ah [18:17] Well that's 12.04 wiped & 14.04 in. Installed, configured, extras downloaded & configured - all sorted [except for Steam games.. that'll happen will I sleep tonight] ;) [18:18] 14.04 - Approved by SuperEngineer - ythat's official folks [18:18] \o/ [18:18] *that's [18:19] only minus points - missing status bar in nautilus & lifrea [Linux Feed Reader] will *not* keep it's settings. I can live with that. [18:20] :D [18:20] what was it you put on a netbook? [18:20] thought it was you..cant remember [18:20] * SuperEngineer applauds all the devs & contibutors [18:20] mapps: yup [18:21] that's the one with Lubuntu on it [18:21] ah cool [18:21] just normal rls no netbook specific? [18:21] * SuperEngineer runs Ubuntu on desktop, Xubuntu on HP mini, Lubuntu on Asus netbook [18:21] ;] [18:23] ...proof of "a buntu for all seasons" :) [18:23] got a pooter - we got a buntu just for you! [18:24] i got ubuntu on laptop/desktop well xubuntu on old desktop/server :) [18:27] hah! tomaaato, tom*a*to - it's a darn tasty thing to eat ;) [18:28] i need to get a new router/modem or combo so i can put openWRT/ddwrt on..whats everyone use?7 [18:30] mapps: I need to get a new boxing glove & smack the person who's using my "borrowed"! Speed atm is atrocious - was brilliant earlier. [18:31] mapps, civilzation is the most famous game in the "4x" genre - a turn based world exploration/conquering game [18:31] [borrowing the secure broadband from people nearby - preesie for looking after it for them] [18:32] heh [18:32] anyone got any recommendations? dont really want a seperate router/modem but think i may have to? [18:33] separates overheat & die less [18:33] hm [18:33] just feels like itd be hard work:) [18:36] Q/ why does CCSM still call the Unity plugin "experimental"? [18:36] ccsm? [18:37] compiz config settings manager [18:37] ah duh [18:37] [& solved the problem with expo - it now *hates* top corner & *loves* the *bottom* left corner!... muscle retraining as we speak!] [18:41] daftykins: success \o/ reinstalled \o/ [18:43] yay \o/ [19:06] there is a tv programme where a bunch of US girls think they are competing to date prince harry, but its a lookalike :-| [19:07] tv has reached new lows [19:07] * SuperEngineer kisses the external drive & powers it off - job well done mate. ta [19:08] * SuperEngineer worries about talking to hardware ;) [19:13] hmmm -worried. Just went to install Wine and it insists that "nVidia opencl driver and icd loader driver" MUST be removed. Worreeeeeed! any clues? [19:13] why WINE ;_; [19:13] most likely a problem with 32 bit libraries [19:14] daftykins: I hace a few [very old] win games * a couple of apps that I really would like to be available [19:14] ali1234: so safe to allow? [19:15] no idea [19:15] show the full output [19:15] ali1234: at least thayt's an honest answer ;) [19:22] ali1234: I was about to show a full screenshot - but can't find where the heck it got saved to! [need top download Shutter to get the control I want - doing it now]... or was there some text file you thinking of? [19:23] don't see why there would be any text - this is just on requesting Wine - nothing yet happened [19:27] wth - installing it anyway ;) [19:51] hm [19:51] how do i root a sony xperia z2 [19:51] for why? [19:52] so can access a usb key [19:52] wat [19:53] ? [19:53] well [19:53] u cant access a usb storage device else [19:53] bit of an odd use-case [19:54] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTb7IhrGQw8 [19:54] well thats it ;p [19:54] its my friend anyway not me [19:54] it looks confusing [19:54] http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2440597 [19:54] video states that USB on-the-go support is there as stock [19:55] hm [19:55] it is [19:56] does he have that cable? :> [19:56] you really don't want to go modding someone elses phone [19:56] yea [19:56] agree [19:58] whats the diff between these usb host OTG cables and a normal like mini usb -> regular cable? [19:59] standard charging cable is the wrong gender [19:59] charging = female, OTG = male [19:59] not sure if there's any electrical difference, i doubt it [19:59] he said it came with a mini usb cable -> regula that can plug a usb key into it [19:59] aint that the same as host otg? [20:01] dunno, depends what it's labelled as [20:01] that'd be a tad surprising, i'd expect them to be aftermarket only [20:02] yea [20:03] but yeah i'd bet the storage settings have to be looked at, the format of the USB flash drive has to be good and so on [20:03] can you recommend any decent sites for linux tutorials/videos like learning stuff or podcasts although i find podcasts hard to keep up with [20:03] ah yea [20:11] pah guess not ...;p [20:11] off to work in a sec..but got nothig to do for hoursssssss..so can come on irc:D [20:14] dunno man, my recent assistance of a guy's little home web server involved 4hrs with me and a notepad writing up notes as to getting 14.04 going [20:14] a few differences to ye olde 10.04 that i wanted to document for future reference [20:14] at some point i need to carry on, with samba since it seems to have changed enough for me usual approach to not work [20:16] ya i need to setup samba === james_w` is now known as james_w [22:53] hmm [22:53] oh dear midnight already [22:53] perhaps time for a Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons episode :D [22:55] O O [22:55] O O [22:55] O O [22:55] :D [22:55] nicely done [22:57] Captain Black looks like he hasn't slept in a year [23:01] I used to work with someone who looked exactly like captain scarlet [23:02] he had a perma 5'o clock shadow and perfect plastic hair [23:02] also chiseled face [23:03] hahaha [23:03] was there a nickname? === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [23:49] hello === maps|wrl is now known as maps|wrk [23:49] morning maps|wrk [23:49] :) [23:50] watching these tyger does docs on bbc iplayer [23:50] tyger does' the perfect body and lol theyre in newcastle talking about tanning injections and he says 'so are you Caucasian,' 'na im white british me' [23:50] lol [23:51] don't know who that is [23:52] its some guy that does documentaries for the BBC ..the funny thing was the fool that answered his question [23:52]