[00:03] <bozonius> that did it; thanks again.
[00:04] <bozonius> I found a lot of old generic and pae kernels so I got rid of all but the latest 3 of each version (3.2.0 and 3.5.0) -- using dpkg of course, not brute force
[00:04] <ipoisonxl> Hello
[00:05] <sydney> ipoisonxl: Hi!!
[00:05] <ipoisonxl> I have trouble with my internet connection. I recently changed to Ubuntu. My internet speed was about 20mbps download and 15mbps upload, now it's dropped down to 1.5 and 0.1...
[00:06] <ipoisonxl> The fast internet was with Windows
[00:07] <Stovetop> hello
[00:08] <Stovetop> does anyone happen to know why it's not possible to automount an ecrypt directory on publickey ssh authentication?
[00:08] <Stovetop> even when sshd is using PAM
[00:09] <Stovetop> it seems like PAM should kick in to gear and automount the directory via the pam_ecryptfs plugin
[00:14] <TJ-> Stovetop: Because, by default, the ~/.ssh/ directory is encrypted. I reconfigure things to move it out to /etc/ssh/$USER/
[00:16] <Stovetop> TJ-: i've done that - the ssh part is working fine and separated from the encryted dir - i just can't get it to autmount when i login via ssh
[00:17] <mdev> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-updates/main libicu44 i386 4.4.2-2ubuntu0.11.10.1
[00:17] <mdev> can't install packages get that error when I try and apt-get
[00:17] <mdev> how I fix?
[00:18] <unicornjedi> !ping
[00:18] <Vivekananda> Hello everyone. My network manager settings dont allow internet when connected to vpn. I tried the method here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1660520&page=3   ( last post )   but that does not help. Can someone guide me through the steps to take to solve this ?  I am not sure what else to change in the network manager for this
[00:18] <mdev> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric-security/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.200 80]
[00:18] <mdev> when I try and apt-get update
[00:19] <mdev> my /etc/apt/sources.list contains nothing but oneiric stuff
[00:20] <TJ-> Stovetop: You've confirmed that the "/etc/pam.d/sshd" is working as expected. "/var/log/auth.log" should show what is being processed
[00:20] <Vivekananda> What I meant was that on connecting to a vpn network my local internet access through my router gets disabled
[00:20] <daftykins> histo: one successful xubuntu install :)
[00:20] <daftykins> histo: (for Deborah)
[00:21] <Freeder> Hi, I have a few small public services running (webpages, ftp, etc) and would like to gain a better idea of what users are doing on my network when connected (bandwidth used, how many are currently connected, new connections, etc) via something similar to mrtg... what is a good real-time stat generator that might be able to do that?
[00:21] <Stovetop> TJ-: yeah, i've checked all that and it seems to be working properly.  the problem is that a lot of the articles online seem to have contradictory statements on whether auto mount for ssh should even work at all
[00:21] <econdudeawesome> How do I get my new USB wifi dongle working? I plugged it in and it appears to detect the dongle, but I'm unable to connect to my wifi
[00:22] <TJ-> Stovetop: I use it routinely and have for a long time; never had an issue
[00:22] <mdev> apparently it was removed from the main repositories?
[00:22] <Stovetop> TJ-: i found one ubuntu forum article from an ecrypt contributor who said it should NOT be possible
[00:22] <mdev> what the actual heck...
[00:22] <mdev> so ubuntu team just broke my VPS entirely I can't update I can't upgrade
[00:23] <TJ-> Stovetop: The only time I've seen it not mount the ecryptfs is when the .ssh directory can't be reached
[00:23] <ee99ee> What's the best way to set the hostname of an ubuntu box when provisioning on aws with ec2-run-instances? Set it with a user-data script?
[00:23] <mdev> so wreckless....
[00:23] <Stovetop> TJ-: so you have key-based ssh auth that automatically mounts the encrypted homedir when you login - no password promts?
[00:23] <ee99ee> maybe someting like: echo "my.new.host" > /etc/hostname; hostname "my.new.host" ?
[00:24] <TJ-> Stovetop: correct, I've had that as standard practice for several years
[00:24] <TJ-> Stovetop: I'm ssh-ing into a host now, to check it
[00:24] <mdev> guess ubuntu can't be trusted
[00:25] <mdev> too busy trying to integrate amazon ads
[00:25] <mdev> breaking peoples stuff
[00:25] <Stovetop> TJ-: argh - i wonder what's going wrong - pam doesn't seem to want to mount it automatically - i had to set up a .profile that runs the ecrypt mount command
[00:26] <Viking667> what's the  name of the volume application?
[00:26] <Viking667> the one that is used for audio volume?
[00:26] <Stovetop> TJ-: so that when i login with ssh it runs that prompt for the ecrypt password and then will do it's thing
[00:26] <TJ-> mdev: Oneiric was EOL in May 2013
[00:27] <TJ-> Stovetop: got to wait a few minutes, I had everything powered down :)
[00:31] <Stovetop> TJ-: when you created the encrypted directory, did you choose your own password or let the program set it?
[00:32] <z1haze> hello! could someone answer a few questions for me, and possibly help me out? Im a server owner, but I have little experience doing so; I had help setting up the server as it is, and everythin works great, except for the fact theres no actual ftp server installed on it. The server is setup with password authentication disabled and uses ssh keys, but now I am going to be required to install an ftp server on it, due to a control panel f
[00:32] <z1haze> or a gameserver that includes ftp.. what would be the easiest way to do this?
[00:32] <TJ-> The passprase for the ecryptfs is wrapped using the user account password
[00:33] <wheatthin> z1haze, ubunt-server would be a better place for that question
[00:33] <Stovetop> TJ-: so do i maybe have a redundant password or something?
[00:33] <wheatthin> ubuntu-server
[00:33] <z1haze> i thought so  i went there first, didnt get anything
[00:34] <wheatthin> yeah.. You can use vsftpd, and configure it in /etc/vsftpd.conf
[00:35] <Stovetop> TJ-: i've just created a new user, so should ecrypt just inherit the password for the new account, or do i need to set a new password?
[00:36] <mjayk> does anyone know why a usb 3 stick would stop working in a usb port when a usb 2 stick works in it ?
[00:36] <mjayk> but the usb 3 stick works in the usb 2 port ubuntu 14.04 64 bit
[00:37] <TJ-> Stovetop: It's so long since I messed with it... I think you need to do "adduser --encrypt-home ..."
[00:38] <TJ-> mjayk: Stops working entirely, can't be seen by the kernel, or only uses the USB2 protocol?
[00:38] <Vivekananda> hope someone can look at the network issue I have . Been trying different things esp the one here  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1660520&page=3   ( last post)
[00:39] <mjayk> TJ-: doesnt show at all under lsblk or anywhere as far as I can see
[00:40] <vernacchia> is anyone present familiar with schroot?
[00:40] <Vivekananda> hope I did not loose internet yet
[00:40] <TJ-> mjayk: check in "/var/log/kern.log"... best to do "sudo tail -f /var/log/kern.log" as the device is connected, to see what the kernel reports
[00:41] <histo> daftykins: nice
[00:41] <TJ-> Vivekananda: what is your issue? the post you refer to reports the issue being solved
[00:41] <mjayk> would dmesg do the same TJ- ?  just for my own learning :)
[00:41] <vernacchia> I'm getting an error when I attempt to enter a schroot environment: W: Shell 'usr/sbin/nologin' not available: usr/sbin/nologin: Failed to stat file: No such file or directory W: Falling back to shell '/bin/sh'
[00:42] <vernacchia> it's like it isn't looking for the initial environment in the right place but I'm not sure where it would be defined
[00:42] <Vivekananda> TJ-: I tried the suggestion there but does not work for me.  My issue is that I have a working vpn connection but when I connect to the vpn I loose my internet connection.
[00:43] <TJ-> mjayk: not unless it is a very recent version, that supports "--follow"
[00:43] <TJ-> Vivekananda: what kind of VPN?
[00:44] <Vivekananda> TJ-: openvpn ubuntu 12.04
[00:44] <Vivekananda> using the network manager plugin for it
[00:45] <mjayk> OK I can see it in dmesg
[00:46] <TJ-> Vivekananda: OK, have you only ever configured the VPN using the GUI (in other words, have you previously done a manual configuration by editing files in "/etc/openvpn/") ?
[00:47] <mjayk> TJ-:  http://pastie.org/9275403 does that help at all
[00:47] <TJ-> mjayk: That looks correc to me... what else are you expecting?
[00:48] <mjayk> im expecting to see it in the file manager or under /media/ or somewhere
[00:48] <Vivekananda> TJ-: I made no manual changes but I did import the certificates into the connection when creating a new openvpn connection in the network manager. Besides doing that I have made no changes
[00:48] <mjayk> like it does when i plug the usb 2 stick in TJ-
[00:48] <TJ-> mjayk: Is the usb_storage kernel module loaded ("lsmod | grep usb_storage") ?
[00:49] <mjayk> TJ-:  Nothing comes up when I do that
[00:49] <Vivekananda> TJ-: but the vpn connection works fine when I try to log into it
[00:49] <TJ-> mjayk: really!? OK, keep an eye on that dmeg/kern.log and do "sudo modprobe usb_storage"
[00:51] <daftykins> Vivekananda: did you miss my reply earlier?
[00:51] <TJ-> Vivekananda: So I'm a bit confused as to how it is failing. If by that you mean the VPN gets the default route, then you need to enable the option "use this connection only for computers on this network" or however it is worded, it's a checkbox in one of te tabs
[00:52] <mjayk> TJ-:  http://pastie.org/9275418
[00:52] <Vivekananda> daftykins: hi . no I saw it but did not follow what I needed to change so I tried to look for something similar and apparantely got to that site that told me to just click on 'use this connection for routes on this network only' and I did that. Besides that I am not sure what to change
[00:53] <vernacchia> aha, host environment config is missing the correct path and preserving the broken environment when entering schroot causes it to bomb
[00:53] <Stovetop> TJ-: me again. :-) once i've created the user with the --encrypt-home option, you reckon i need to run ecryptfs-insert-wrapped-passphrase-into-keyring?
[00:55] <daftykins> Vivekananda: so as long as you can use IPs for RDP over the VPN, you'd want to disable getting any DNS servers from the connection too
[00:55] <Vivekananda> TJ-: I have checked that box and if I am understanding you correctly based on the limited knowledge I have, I guess vpn is getting the default route and so the net is not working but I have checked that box and net is still unreacheable after vpn connection.  would you like me to post the results of route -n  for before and after the connection ?   or perhpas the results of :  cat  /etc/resolv.conf ?
[00:56] <Vivekananda> daftykins: I dont follow that completely. do you mean if I want to use rdp over vpn I cannot have local internet  ?
[00:56] <TJ-> Stovetop: I'm having trouble here with a RAID failure so I can't look right now, but I seem to recall because the same user password is used on the local and remote system, I have something configured with the agent... I'll try to find it once I have some free time and I'll drop you a Memo here on freenode in case you've not solved it
[00:57] <daftykins> Vivekananda: what you've said to TJ- would indeed be handy, although i have to go to sleep now.
[00:57] <mjayk> im quite confused
[00:58] <Stovetop> TJ-: cool, thanks dude - i'm gettin nowhere on this at the moment - nothing seems to work - good luck with the RAID fixing!
[00:58] <daftykins> Vivekananda: you want to make sure that your default gateway is not overridden, then you want to make sure your DNS IPs remain ones that function, i.e. your ISPs or perhaps googles
[00:58] <Vivekananda> okay willl wait for his answer
[00:59] <Vivekananda> daftykins: okay but again I dont know how to locate those pieces of info and ensure they are remaining the same or if I have to manually write some file
[01:00] <TJ-> Vivekananda: In the openvpn configuration GUI, ensure you select (on the IPv4 tab) "Method: Automatic (only addresses)" to avoid the VPN changing the default route or the DNS servers
[01:00] <daftykins> Vivekananda: "route -n" or "ip route" for gw, as you stated... then if resolvconf is removed, /etc/resolv.conf can contain hardcoded DNS IPs... depends how you're handling DNS
[01:00] <Vivekananda> I have that chosen and not the first one
[01:00] <Vivekananda> gw ?
[01:00] <mjayk> TJ-: im not nagging I appriciate the help but did you get my last pate bin :)
[01:00] <daftykins> guess.
[01:01] <daftykins> ah there you go, TJ- has a better way for dropping DNS from the connection
[01:02] <TJ-> mjayk: No, I missed it. That log was captured after you'd modprobed usb_storage?
[01:02] <mjayk> TJ-:  Yea i was
[01:02] <mjayk> TJ-:  http://pastie.org/9275418
[01:06] <TJ-> mjayk: which ubuntu release, which kernel version ("cat /etc/issue && uname -r") ?
[01:07] <Vivekananda> TJ-:  http://imgur.com/COmbevV
[01:07] <mjayk> TJ-:  14.04 LTS 3.8.11
[01:08] <TJ-> mjayk: Can you pastebin the entire /var/log/dmesg ?
[01:11] <mjayk> TJ-: http://pastie.org/9275441
[01:11] <mjayk> should help
[01:12] <TJ-> mjayk: no good. I need to see the *entire* dmesg to see how the controller and ports have configured, and if the USB2 and USB3 have initialised in the correct order
[01:16] <Vivekananda> TJ-: in the ipv4 settings for the vpn  do I need to specify a route manually in the 'routes'  button pop-up ? I dont have anything there and it is blank
[01:17] <TJ-> Vivekananda: Hmmm, possibly. It's difficult because the VPN server can be configured to hand out additional routes, name-servers, and so forth so you never quite know on the client side what you may need to ignore
[01:18] <Vivekananda> ok. but on checking the checkbox you indicated above, shouldnt that not take care of this issue ?
[01:18] <Vivekananda> Please let me know what other outpus you would need to help me a little with troubleshoot
[01:19] <TJ-> The route is orthogonal to the DNS resolvers, but the way the connection can be configured on the client I'm not sure the GUI allows you to accept routes but not nameservers, for example
[01:20] <Vivekananda> TJ-: when you say client do you mean my computer or the vpn server I am connecting through using the vpn connection ?
[01:22] <TJ-> Vivekananda: the client is the one that calls the server :)
[01:23] <Vivekananda> also are you sure I cannot do anything about this ?  so that makes me and my computer the client
[01:24] <TJ-> do anything about what? From what you've said you've already set the option to prevent the default route being changed... so that should ensure you still have direct Internet connectivity via your ISP, rather than re-routing all traffic through the VPN
[01:27] <Freeder> Hi, I have a few small public services running (webpages, ftp, etc) and would like to gain a better idea of what users are doing on my network when connected (bandwidth used, how many are currently connected, new connections, etc) via something similar to mrtg... what is a good real-time stat generator that might be able to do that?
[01:27] <Vivekananda> TJ-: I have that checkbox checked and things changed as you said above but even now when I connect to the remote  server via vpn connection I am loosing internet.
[01:27] <TJ-> Vivekananda: define "losing"... I suspect you mean you lose DNS name resolving only
[01:28] <TJ-> Vivekananda: pastebin the results of these commands: "ip route ls && pin -nc 4 8.8.8.8"
[01:28] <TJ-> Vivekananda: Typo! "ip route ls && ping -nc 4 8.8.8.8"
[01:28] <Vivekananda> TJ-: after I see " vpn connection successful " I then open firefox on my local computer ( not a remote computer accessible through the vpn) and try to go to google.com and cannot
[01:29] <Vivekananda> TJ-:  I am assuming you want me to try that after connecting to the vpn
[01:29] <TJ-> Vivekananda: Yes please
[01:29] <Vivekananda> okay gimme a min. Just that when I connect I will loose this chat connection too
[01:31] <TJ-> Vivekananda: You shouldn't loose this as an established connection, if the default route isn't being changed
[01:31] <Sachiru> I'd like to track who's browsing por... tals for accounting experts on our network (and yes I know this is not a 100% foolproof system, what I'm asking for is basic logging/monitoring for beancounters, not something to track a person who is dedicated to having himself not tracked.
[01:31] <Vivekananda> TJ-: http://pastie.org/9275472
[01:32] <Vivekananda> this is after vpn was established.
[01:33] <TJ-> Vivekananda: That explains it! You've got duplicate sub-nets for 192.168.1.0/24 on both sides of the VPN!
[01:34] <TJ-> Vivekananda: So, when the VPN is established a route for 192.168.1.0/24 is added via the tun0 interface, which interferes with your local route via eth0
[01:34] <histo> Sachiru: there are many ways to do that.  What type of network is it?
[01:34] <TJ-> Vivekananda: one side or the other needs to move to a different sub-net
[01:35] <Vivekananda> ooo okay
[01:35] <Rcrash> I have ubuntu box1 connected to windows box1 over ethernet, no switch, both are configured on 192.168.5.x/24. The Windows box can ping the Ubuntu box, but the ubuntu box cannot ping the windows box. When I have the ubuntu box hooked up to the normal network, it receives a DHCP address, but then stops talking to everything afterwards. After the DHCP lease is established, I can view all network
[01:35] <Rcrash> traffic on the box, but still cannot talk. This is on a fresh install of Ubuntu server, but also happens with Ubuntu desktop. When using the same hardware under Windows, everything works properly
[01:35] <Rcrash> The same problem appears when I use the onboard ethernet ports or the pcie NIC
[01:35] <Vivekananda> TJ-: I dont have control on the other side but can move mine the only thing is I dont want to do it so that if new computers connect to my network they cannot get dhcp ips
[01:36] <Vivekananda> three people use my network and I dont wish to cause them pain
[01:36] <TJ-> Vivekananda: You should just be able to reconfigure your local sub-net on the router, move it to say 192.168.101.0/24
[01:36] <Rcrash> Vivekananda change your whole internal network. Unless the other people are using static IPs, they will be fine.
[01:36] <TJ-> Vivekananda: If the router is issuing IP addresses via DHCP then nothing will break
[01:36] <Vivekananda> how do I move my own to a different subnet. Also when you say different subnet do you mean just the  numbers from 1 - 24 to be different or do I have to change the 192.x.x.x ie all of them
[01:37] <histo> Rcrash: are you trying to ping by hostname
[01:37] <Sachiru> Basically the DNS+DHCP server resides on a different machine from the gateway.
[01:37] <Rcrash> Vivekananda on your router, change the internal lan to 192.168.101.0 as TJ- suggested, that should also update the DHCP server settings.
[01:37] <ubuntuuser> hello
[01:37] <Rcrash> histo no
[01:37] <TJ-> Vivekananda: When we write 192.168.1.0/24 we mean the first 24 bits of a 32 bit address are static, so the final 8 bits can change. That means the valid sub-net addresses are 192.168.1.0 through 192.168.1.255.
[01:37] <Sachiru> I don't need full URL logging, just logs of how many times a user hits facebook, etc.
[01:38] <Sachiru> It's a small office network, around 20 workstations, simple TP-Link router.
[01:38] <ubuntuuser> i have a question, maybe someone can help me: i run an irc client on a shell in another timezone. can i offset the time on the shell? or does that have to be done in the client (irssi)
[01:38] <Vivekananda> TJ-: also just trying to understand the output I gave you.  ie each of the lines in there
[01:38] <Rcrash> Sachiru you will need to either setup dns logging to see who's hitting your DNS server, or you will need a router which supports url logging.
[01:38] <Sachiru> I plan on using a machine here as DHCP+DNS, then turn off DNS on the router. This would have the added benefit of me being able to locally resolve a domain.
[01:38] <histo> Sachiru: http://www.debianadmin.com/network-traffic-analyzer-for-your-ubuntu-system.html
[01:39] <Sachiru> DNS logging is what I plan.
[01:39] <Sachiru> Just asking if there are any good DNS log analyzers out there.
[01:39] <Sachiru> Instead of me having to manually grep through stuff.
[01:39] <Rcrash> Sachiru http://www.gypthecat.com/how-to-log-bind-queries-on-ubuntu-12-10
[01:39] <histo> Rcrash: can you pastebin ip route
[01:39] <Rcrash> histo there are no routes
[01:40] <Rcrash> there is no traffic leaving the subnet
[01:40] <Rcrash> it is all local traffic
[01:40] <TJ-> Rcrash: my first thought was cabling, but if you're seeing a full DHCP conversation (and not just the client using the last lease it obtained), then I'd want to know the kernel version and the exact PCI IDs of the NICs
[01:41] <Sachiru> Basically something similar to this: http://demo.statdns.nedze.com/
[01:41] <Vivekananda> TJ-: the lines having 'eth0'  are : 1.    default via 192.168.1.1 dev eth0  proto static      and    2.  68.198.105.173 via 192.168.1.1 dev eth0  proto static   and   3. 192.168.1.0/24 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.1.37  metric 1   .  The lines for  'tun0' ie the remote interface are  :     1.  192.168.1.0/24 via 10.8.0.9 dev tun0  proto static     .   did you mean that line 3  in eth0  interferes with line 1 in the tun0 ?
[01:42] <TJ-> Vivekananda: line 7 is the one causing your grief
[01:43] <TJ-> Vivekananda: "192.168.1.0/24 via 10.8.0.9 dev tun0  proto static " ... tun0 is the interface created by openvpn
[01:43] <Nautilus> from the desktop of a LiveCD boot, how do I open a terminal window? Thought it was ctrl-T
[01:43] <TJ-> Nautilus: Ctrl+Alt+T
[01:44] <Rcrash> TJ- I've changed cables, NICs, everything but the mobo. The full conversation happens, is recognized by the DHCP server, and logged. Then after that, active network traffic can be viewed using any one of a few packet sniffers. The kernel version is whatever's installed with the latest ISOs from ubuntu.com. PCI IDs 14e4:1639
[01:45] <Rcrash> Sachiru see the link I pasted. You need to find what IP your beancounter is using, then just grep through the log, there's not going to be anything easier unless your router supports traffic logging
[01:45] <lacrymology> a friend's got a legacy nvidia and his machine started freezing at grub after release upgrade. He thinks it's video drivers, has checked the rest of the hardware
[01:46] <TJ-> Rcrash: So, Ubuntu 14.04. What do you have in "/etc/network/interfaces" ?
[01:47] <Rcrash> TJ- right now I've got one port for the dual nic configured manually, which is what Windows is able to ping.
[01:48] <Rcrash> TJ- yeah, 14.04
[01:48] <Bashing-om> lacrymology: Maybe, try and boot with the 'nomodset' boot parameter from grub.
[01:49] <TJ-> Rcrash: looking at the bnx2 driver, it has an option "disable_msi" ... Sometimes systems have issues with MSI (checking dmesg may reveal something), so you could try loading the driver with that enabled ("disable_msi=1")
[01:49] <Rcrash> nothing in dmseg with any value
[01:49] <TJ-> Rcrash: If you could pastebin the entire dmesg that'd be helpful to get a feel for it
[01:49] <Rcrash> I'm actually starting to lean toward some funky failure in the hardware
[01:49] <Rcrash> no network, can't :(
[01:49] <TJ-> Rcrash: I've seen this with MSIs a few times
[01:50] <TJ-> Can you transfer it via USB flash?
[01:50] <Rcrash> that's thinkin
[01:50] <Rcrash> :P
[01:50] <TJ-> Rcrash: try rmmod-ing the driver first
[01:50] <TJ-> if that works you're sorted
[01:50] <lacrymology> Bashing-om: how can he do that, when the computer is frozen?
[01:50] <lacrymology> Bashing-om: has to change something from a livecd, right?
[01:52] <Bashing-om> lacrymology: If when you reboot, you can not get to the grub boot menu, most likely not a 'buntu problem . (not to say there is not a corrupted code in t Master Boot Record)
[01:55] <lacrymology> Bashing-om: it's not the hard drive, he does get to grub, but it freezes. LiveCD boots fine
[01:55] <Bashing-om> lacrymology: Hey, Is 'buntu the only operating system installed on the machine ? -> cold boot when bios screnn clears depress and hold the right shift key -> grub boot menu.
[01:56] <ee99ee> I have two node apps running on each of my web servers that I need to direct requests to based on simple URL patterns
[01:56] <Freeder> Hmm. What would cause squid to not start, and not write anything to the log files?
[01:56] <ee99ee> the node servers are running on different ports, and they are both behind an elastic load balancer on amazon
[01:56] <Bashing-om> lacrymology: OK, can get to grub, then try the boot parameter 'nomodeset' to get to the desk top.
[01:56] <Freeder> Or, where could I check to see whats going on
[01:56] <ee99ee> should I use ha proxy or nginx to do the proxy?
[01:58] <Bashing-om> lacrymology: Do yall know how to implement adding a boot parameter ?
[01:58] <wicka> hello
[01:58] <wicka> i have an ubuntu server that i SSH into from my windows machine. i understand i cannot run "startx" through SSH. how, then, am i supposed to start x?
[01:59] <lacrymology> Bashing-om: not really. but there's a lot of internet around. I'm guessing something in /boot/grub/grub.cfg?
[02:01] <wicka> is anyone actually around?
[02:01] <Bashing-om> lacrymology: Reading is good, but ,, boot to the grub menu, 'e' key for edit mode -> boot parameters screen; arrow down and across to the terms "quiet splash" and add the term "nomodeset"; key combo ctl+x to continue the boot process. what results ?
[02:02] <lacrymology> Bashing-om: he says even the caps lock and num lock leds don't respond when he gets to grub menu
[02:03] <lacrymology> even initramfs isn't running at that point, is it?
[02:04] <Bashing-om> lacrymology: And there is no peoblems with the liveDVD ?? //MAybe bios is not handing off the keyboard to grub // might try changing the keyboard settings in bios and see what results.
[02:05] <Bashing-om> problems*
[02:09] <Vivekananda> TJ-:  I got that but which line is it interfering with ?
[02:09] <Vivekananda> ie which is the correct eth0 line ? there are 3 so I am not sure which one means what
[02:11] <TJ-> Vivekananda: The other line with the subnet 192.168.1.0/24 ... dev eth0 ...
[02:12] <Vivekananda> TJ-: ie the next line ( line 8 ) isnt it ?
[02:14] <lacrymology> Bashing-om: how would that make it not work on MBR grub but yes on CD?
[02:14] <Bashing-om> lacrymology: Have yall got a liveDVD ? -> boot to the liveDVD's boot option screen and choose "boot from first hard drive ". What results ?
[02:15] <muddle_through> if you have it installed on hard disk , why run liveDVD?
[02:15] <Bashing-om> lacrymology: Keyboard drivers are differnet between what bios uses, grub uses and the liveDVD uses.
[02:15] <lacrymology> Bashing-om: telling him to try that
[02:16] <ROCK23> hello!!
[02:16] <ROCK23> greeting from Singapore
[02:16] <muddle_through> i usually run ubuntu live first then switch to install so i can input my wifi login during install from dvd
[02:16] <Freeder> Any ideas why squid would not start, and not log *anything* to cache.log ?
[02:17] <lacrymology> Bashing-om: liveCD -> boot from HDD: same result as before
[02:17] <Bashing-om> ROCK23: Hey ! .. Singapore, I once spent a week there one night.
[02:17] <lacrymology> I'm coming to singapore next monday
[02:17] <hanasaki> I think the audio is going through the spdif not the hdmi connector that the video is using to get the the monitory (has speakers)   how can I get the audio to go through the hdmi?
[02:18] <ROCK23> :-)
[02:18] <Bashing-om> lacrymology: Well, no more than we have to work with, info wise, will not hurt to (re-)install grub from the liveDVD and see what happens. Yall game for that ?
[02:18] <muddle_through> all depends on available drivers for your card, i would think
[02:18] <muddle_through> soundcard, i mean
[02:18] <lacrymology> yeah sure
[02:19] <muddle_through> you could probably play around with the mixer interface, and see what happens
[02:19] <hanasaki> how do you play a sound w/ the mixer interface?
[02:19] <ROCK23> I think you just slide the level bar and a sound will be played
[02:20] <muddle_through> let me see on this release. mine just work, i have to turn it off, actively, to mute
[02:20] <ROCK23> btw,not all monitor is able ot support HDMI audio though
[02:20] <ROCK23> you got to check
[02:21] <hanasaki> I get no sound from aplay  and gnome and kde
[02:22] <Bashing-om> lacrymology: The mens to implement depend on where the operating system is installed to. Do you know the hard drive and partition that 'buntu is installed onto ? else we will do the pastebin thing and I will find the information.
[02:22] <ROCK23> why don't you plug it into the normal sound output to verify that the sound card is working fine?
[02:22] <Bashing-om> \means*
[02:22] <ROCK23> deal with the HDMI later
[02:23] <hanasaki> sound works fine on the RCA plug out.   there is a SPDIF however I have no cable for that
[02:23] <hanasaki> nor input
[02:23] <muddle_through> hanasaki: when you access system settings:sound, it makes a little pop when you adjust the master volume
[02:23] <muddle_through> on mine "built in audio" is selected
[02:24] <lacrymology> Bashing-om: I think it's the only system installed
[02:25] <muddle_through> there are some sound cards not easily supported, though
[02:25] <ROCK23> btw, is this the official irc channel for ubuntu>
[02:25] <ROCK23> ?
[02:25] <muddle_through> look on the web forum maybe
[02:25] <hanasaki> muddle_through:  sorry I don't understand what you are suggesting I do
[02:25] <muddle_through> rock, i think so?
[02:26] <ROCK23> thanks :)
[02:26] <muddle_through> hanasaki: go to the the gear in the right hand corner
[02:26] <muddle_through> click it
[02:26] <muddle_through> select system settings
[02:27] <hanasaki> ok
[02:27] <muddle_through> says all and has various system settings you can adjust
[02:27] <muddle_through> select the icon that says "sound"
[02:28] <Corvette> Is there a way to enable additional printer drivers in ubuntu 14.04? My epson XP 400 isn't installing
[02:28] <hanasaki> muddle_through:  I have been through all that is found oon the web
[02:28] <hanasaki> muddle_through:  on.. next?
[02:28] <muddle_through> okay sounds like you don't need help
[02:28] <muddle_through> make sure speakers is selected
[02:29] <muddle_through> move around the slider at top, pop sound comes from speakers
[02:29] <muddle_through>  = sound works
[02:29] <hanasaki> its all set to play through hdmi... but no sound... when I play a sound.. the meter does show sounds playing
[02:30] <muddle_through> i don't know about all that. you may have to settle for standard stereo output
[02:30] <lacrymology> Bashing-om: do you know if there might be some kind of logs left anywhere for that?
[02:30] <Bashing-om> lacrymology: Let us know before acting ! -> sudo apt-get install pastebinit , sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit <- and relay back the resulting URL.
[02:30] <lacrymology> *from* that
[02:31] <muddle_through> mine only shows two possible output methods, speakers and spdif
[02:32] <muddle_through> i've never tried to use hdmi to output to my receiver
[02:32] <TJ-> Rcrash: did that MSI workaround fix your issue?
[02:32] <Bashing-om> lacrymology: IF one wants to look at logs, I bet we can from the liveDVD and mount the partition that contains 'root'.
[02:33] <hanasaki> :(
[02:33] <muddle_through> sorry d00d
[02:33] <yimao> :)
[02:33] <hanasaki> is pulse audio gnome or kde?
[02:33] <muddle_through> i'm just not sure without trying it here
[02:33] <ROCK23> brb
[02:33] <muddle_through> gnome for sure
[02:34] <muddle_through> i never use kde, though, so don't know about it there
[02:35] <muddle_through> let me see the "mode" pulldown here shows Analog Stereo Output and Surround 4.0
[02:36] <muddle_through> i should try my hdmi too, but it's connected to the roku > television
[02:36] <muddle_through> the cable i mean
[02:37] <muddle_through> oops
[02:37] <oniMaker> ssh disconnected in the middle of an upgrade. I can reconnect fine... but how can I resume seeing the output from the install?
[02:37] <muddle_through> need another cable
[02:37] <lacrymology> Bashing-om: the question is whether there will *be* any logs if the machine freezes at grub
[02:37] <oniMaker> I can see the process still running with htop
[02:38] <oniMaker> is it possible to pick up where I left off?
[02:38] <Bashing-om> lacrymology: If the system is not up, then there is no means to log .. right ?
[02:39] <hanasaki> running a program on a remote computer and want it to display on my computer.... I set xhost + and exported DISPLAY on the remote computer however still get xterm: Xt error: Can't open display: me:0.0
[02:40] <exported> hanasaki: are you trying to forward X over ssh?
[02:40] <Bashing-om> lacrymology: Dis you see my xx:30 entry ?
[02:40] <muddle_through> hanasaki, try the terminal app named "screen" ?
[02:40] <hanasaki> exported:  nope.. no ssh forward... trusted network .. so just ssh to the box then run xterm after setting the DISPLAY
[02:41] <exported> hanasaki: wouldn't that still be forwarding X over an ssh connection?
[02:41] <hanasaki> nope.
[02:42] <hanasaki> exported it would be plain X to any host
[02:42] <muddle_through> i'm not sure how that works, personally. all ssh i've run has been term-based
[02:42] <muddle_through> good luck, though.
[02:43] <histo> hanasaki: you have to allow the display of the remote X app on your machine
[02:43] <muddle_through> i think deeply until it's over my head :)
[02:44] <oniMaker> oh wait... the process hung around for a bit but now it's gone... could an upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 really only take a few minutes? It said it might take hours...
[02:44] <oniMaker> server connection had 10 MB/s though
[02:44] <oniMaker> lsb_release -a seems to think it's 14.04 and do-release-upgrade thinks its at the current version
[02:44] <oniMaker> how can I tell if it finished or quit when ssh was disconnected?
[02:44] <histo> hanasaki: here's a guide for a different distro but should be the same
[02:45] <histo> hanasaki: again this is all easier using ssh
[02:45] <histo> and encrypted
[02:45] <muddle_through> go back and check for the process number using ps?
[02:46] <hanasaki> ok got the ssh thanks
[02:50] <hanasaki> how do I get the sound to go through hdmi instead of  < S/PDIF >
[02:50] <AndChat150689> Hi guys
[02:50] <ROCK23> howdy
[02:51] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[02:51] <AndChat150689> Is it possible to use Ubuntu on mobile?
[02:51] <lotuspsychje> !touch | AndChat150689
[02:52] <lotuspsychje> AndChat150689: 2 oem phones comming later this year with ubuntu-touch
[02:52] <histo> hanasaki: choose the audio output in sound preferences
[02:53] <oniMaker> Using apache2 2.4.7 and getting AH00534: apache2: Configuration error: No MPM loaded. but I have an mpm_prefork.load & conf in my mods-enabled directory
[02:53] <hanasaki> histo:  I am starting out with a remote ssh and just want to play from the bash line
[02:53] <muddle_through> mine doesn't show it, but my laptop does have an hdmi jack
[02:53] <Lrrr1> uh oh!!!
[02:53] <Lrrr1> now my room is too cold
[02:53] <Lrrr1> this sucks
[02:54] <muddle_through> bundle up
[02:54] <lotuspsychje> i installed yumi and gambas3 but cant get it to run, it asks for root pass and says its wrong pass..
[02:54] <hanasaki> histo:  issue is in kde and gnome.. looks like only spdif not hdmi
[02:54] <hanasaki> I need to know how to set the default out
[02:54] <histo> hanasaki: play sound on which machine?
[02:54] <muddle_through> lotus try setting a password while sudo su
[02:54] <muddle_through> using passwd
[02:55] <histo> hanasaki: remote or local?
[02:55] <muddle_through> that's how i always did it
[02:55] <histo> lotuspsychje: still?
[02:55] <lotuspsychje> histo: i did dpkg -L yumi and showed me all dirs and names, ive tryed them all
[02:55] <histo> lotuspsychje: cat /usr/share/applications/yumi.desktop  or whatever see which application its launching
[02:55] <muddle_through> but just using sudo su is the same password as your login
[02:55] <hanasaki> histo:  remote machine from bash through hdmi
[02:56] <histo> lotuspsychje: then gksu nameofthatapp
[02:56] <muddle_through> then you're su till you exit
[02:56] <lotuspsychje> histo: tryed them all, nothing runs
[02:56] <histo> muddle_through: sudo -i would be more appropriate
[02:56] <muddle_through> okay then
[02:56] <histo> lotuspsychje: pastebin your yumi.desktop please
[02:56] <muddle_through> i'm all about the work arounds
[02:57] <lotuspsychje> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7621313/
[02:58] <histo> lotuspsychje: gksu YUMI.gambas
[02:58] <lacrymology> Bashing-om: yes, but he had problems, the livecD didn't load his wifi card, which.. it had done before, I don't know. He's gone to bed now. He'll be back here himself tomorrow
[02:59] <lotuspsychje> histo: YUMI.gambas starts, but still asks the root pass field, and says its wrong pass
[02:59] <lotuspsychje> histo: lotuspsychje@R00TB00K:~$ gksudo YUMI.gambas
[02:59] <lotuspsychje> UID=0(root) GID=0(root) groepen=0(root)
[02:59] <muddle_through> just do sudo su then you're root temporarily
[03:00] <histo> lotuspsychje: where is it asking for root password?
[03:00] <lotuspsychje> histo: after starting the yumi GUI, there is a field
[03:00] <Bashing-om> lacrymology: OK, We can pick this up then .. To do anything we must have internet connectivity ( just in case (re-)installing grub is a failure ).
[03:00] <muddle_through> sudo su gets you the #
[03:00] <XeblackWater> hello ubuntu lovers
[03:00] <muddle_through> yo
[03:01] <lotuspsychje> muddle_through: its the same with sudo su, GUI starts and still asks pass
[03:01] <histo> lotuspsychje: A gui popup field?  or can you paste a picture print screen button should grab an image
[03:01] <histo> !paste | lotuspsychje
[03:01] <lotuspsychje> histo: sure
[03:01] <histo> lotuspsychje: i've never seen that.
[03:01] <muddle_through> lotus it's just the user password
[03:01] <muddle_through> whatever you logged in with
[03:02] <lotuspsychje> muddle_through: ive tryed other pass, root pass doesnt work
[03:02] <muddle_through> yeah i don't know your password, but maybe you're on a guest login???
[03:02] <muddle_through> it works here. i use it all the time.
[03:03] <histo> lotuspsychje: Okay I just downloaded yumi it's broken
[03:04] <muddle_through> not being able to get # sounds like PEBCAC
[03:04] <histo> lotuspsychje: you could also try this one http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[03:04] <muddle_through> err pebcak
[03:04] <lotuspsychje> histo: http://oi60.tinypic.com/1pts1s.jpg
[03:05] <XeblackWater> http://i.4cdn.org/hc/1402363117089.gif for lisa_21
[03:06] <histo> !ops | xeblackwat
[03:07] <histo> lotuspsychje: It's not working here also. I don't know what they've broken with the app you can try the other one I posted
[03:07] <lotuspsychje> histo: ok ill try mate
[03:12] <histo> lotuspsychje: http://alternativeto.net/software/multibootisos/?platform=linux
[03:12] <histo> lotuspsychje: there are a bunch of alternatives you'll ahve to look for ones that allow you to do multiple distros
[03:13] <lotuspsychje> histo: ive downloaded that multibootusb tool recently, but dont know where to add more then 1 iso
[03:13] <histo> lotuspsychje: they show you on this page how to use it http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[03:14] <lotuspsychje> histo: cant get it to run in terminal
[03:15] <histo> lotuspsychje: Follow the directions on the page outside of that I have no idea.
[03:16] <xangua> lotuspsychje: http://multibootusb.org/ or http://liveusb.info/dotclear/index.php?pages/install
[03:21] <lotuspsychje> histo: installing that .sh script
[03:23] <BlackAngelPR> Hi all
[03:23] <xangua> !hi
[03:23] <muddle_through> hi black angel
[03:23] <BlackAngelPR> hi there no one had a question yet XD ?
[03:24] <BlackAngelPR> latetly had been quiet :P
[03:24] <muddle_through> zzz
[03:24] <BlackAngelPR> haha
[03:24] <BlackAngelPR> yup
[03:24] <BlackAngelPR> what are you guys up to then?
[03:25] <BlackAngelPR> did you guys delete ubuntu one already from your 14.04 ?
[03:25] <muddle_through> yeah
[03:25] <BlackAngelPR> nice  i did as well now that noticae bar will not bother me any more LOL
[03:26] <muddle_through> i installed synaptic back too
[03:26] <BlackAngelPR> oh
[03:26] <BlackAngelPR> old school :)
[03:26] <muddle_through> it's just easier
[03:26] <muddle_through> yeah i guess
[03:26] <BlackAngelPR> meh i dont like it at all XD
[03:26] <muddle_through> i don't like nags for apps you have to buy
[03:27] <BlackAngelPR> :)
[03:27] <BlackAngelPR> canonical have to do more work on the store  as well i saw some pretty audio players in other distros
[03:27] <BlackAngelPR> XD
[03:27] <lotuspsychje> histo, xangua seems like that multisystem works, if you guys find an easy .deb for that in the future would be handy for other users maybe
[03:28] <BlackAngelPR> Any one had done a muliseat witn ubuntu 14.04 yet?
[03:28] <muddle_through> muliseat?
[03:28] <BlackAngelPR> yes
[03:29] <muddle_through> what is it?
[03:29] <BlackAngelPR> one computer many terminals
[03:29] <BlackAngelPR> meh little long to explain do a quick google
[03:29] <BlackAngelPR> there are different ways to do it
[03:29] <BlackAngelPR> by lan or usb direct to your computer
[03:29] <muddle_through> oh. i'm too lazy for that stuff. sounds like fun, though. :)
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> !info multiseat
[03:30] <BlackAngelPR> yeah i would love to try that but the information its little confusing :p
[03:31] <BlackAngelPR> since many hardware available :(
[03:31] <muddle_through> i'll google
[03:31] <BlackAngelPR> you will find a company that does that but they have a old old ubuntu flavor with it
[03:31] <BlackAngelPR> and need to pay XD
[03:32] <lotuspsychje> BlackAngelPR: what is your end goal exactly?
[03:32] <BlackAngelPR> i hope one day ubuntu make it more easy so fathers can make it at home if they have many kids
[03:32] <BlackAngelPR> i want to make multi seat with ubuntu so all can share the same computer
[03:32] <BlackAngelPR> :p
[03:32] <BlackAngelPR> at home
[03:32] <muddle_through> it's a virtual machine setup?
[03:32] <BlackAngelPR> :P
[03:32] <BlackAngelPR> no
[03:32] <BlackAngelPR> sahre your linux comp
[03:32] <unopaste> BlackAngelPR you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[03:32] <muddle_through> oops
[03:33] <lotuspsychje> BlackAngelPR: 1 computer, multiple users on it same time?
[03:33] <muddle_through> think i'll read up later
[03:33] <BlackAngelPR> fuck unopaste!
[03:34] <lotuspsychje> !language | BlackAngelPR
[03:34] <lotuspsychje> histo, xangua multisystem looking neat! adding iso's in the list tnx again
[03:34] <muddle_through> seems like it takes special hardware to allow multiple hardware terminals on one PC
[03:35] <BlackAngelPR> not at all remember linux actually runs many tty already
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> BlackAngelPR: cant ubuntu server do something like that?
[03:36] <BlackAngelPR> yes ubuntu can  need to be configure but its quite hard
[03:36] <muddle_through> lotus has a point, for sure
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> BlackAngelPR: maybe talk to the #ubuntu-server guys for this
[03:37] <muddle_through> there's an entry for multiseat in wikipedia, too, i guess
[03:37] <alazierworkaholi> Can I install / on btrfs?
[03:37] <alazierworkaholi> WIthout problems?
[03:38] <muddle_through> that's a file system (btrfs) ?
[03:38] <BlackAngelPR> be  back
[03:40] <alazierworkaholi> muddle_through: yes, it's one of the filesystem options. I remember it caused problems in the past, but I'd like to know if 14.04 allows for installation 'simply'. I.e. without GPT partition table, separate /boot partition, etc.
[03:40] <muddle_through> never tried it
[03:41] <muddle_through> i just use the easy ext4. lazy i guess.
[03:42] <Al-Qaeda> hello
[03:44] <Kuwanger> I have a small problem on Ubuntu 12.04. I have /etc/rc.local and /etc/sysctl.conf that both are setting vm.dirty_bytes to 134217728 but something else is setting vm.dirty_ratio to 10.  Any idea on what could be setting vm.dirty_ratio or how to track down what is?
[03:45] <alazierworkaholi> Does anyone here have / on btrfs?
[03:45] <muddle_through> Kuwanger: you're getting an error message?
[03:46] <Datz> Hi, I'm trying to get audacity, or some sound recording software to to record or dub. I can't seem to be able to get it to work. I think I need to enable "stereo mix" but the option doesn't seem available
[03:46] <Kuwanger> muddle_through: No.  I have rc.local setup to touch a file in root, so I know it's running.  But like I said, dirty_ratio is apparently being set after dirty_bytes is.  Setting one zeros out the other one.
[03:47]  * Datz may have found something
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> !btrfs | alazierworkaholi
[03:51] <fluter> hi,
[03:51] <fluter> I'm new to ubuntu, I met a upstart issue, anyone could help?
[03:51] <alazierworkaholi> lotuspsychje: Hello there, thanks for your earlier help. Unfortunately, the /community/btrfs page has NO information specifically about installing / on btrfs. I've found posts from previous releases, but btrfs support has been evolving. I cannot find any information about installing / on btrfs for 14.04.
[03:52] <lotuspsychje> alazierworkaholi: as the url says, its experimental so...
[03:52] <muddle_through> fluter, what is it?
[03:53] <fluter> muddle_through, I use expect daemon for my daemon, and in the script block, if I use only exec mydaemon, it works, but if I add some setup before exec, then it cannot track my pid,
[03:53] <fluter> muddle_through, any ideas why?
[03:55] <muddle_through> fluter, no, sorry
[03:55] <fluter> muddle_through, okay
[03:55] <fluter> why this channel has 1655 but so inactive
[03:56] <muddle_through> people probably hang out and watch or talk in private messages
[03:56] <muddle_through> *shrugs*
[03:56] <xenocons> hi, cant seem to get rid of wretched guest account, seems related to lightdm somehow but for some reason lightdm.conf is ignored
[03:57] <sydney> fluter:  I am in different channels. ;)
[03:57] <fluter> sydney, which channel?
[03:57] <muddle_through> there's another reason :)
[03:57] <alazierworkaholi> lotuspsychje: would you know of any resource detailing btrfs support this year?
[03:57] <alazierworkaholi> for 14.04?
[03:57] <alazierworkaholi> the community page is 3 years out of date
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> alazierworkaholi: can you tell us why you wanna use btrfs exactly?
[03:59] <muddle_through> alazier did you try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/btrfs
[04:00] <alazierworkaholi> lotuspsychje: sure... the compression options make it remarkably fast, and the snapshot feature could help me fix system problems that I spent the whole weekend trying to resolve, and that resulted in a reinstall :/
[04:01] <alazierworkaholi> muddle_through: yes, it has instructions for 11.04. 3 years old.
[04:01] <muddle_through> okay sorry
[04:01] <muddle_through> did you try google keywords: ubuntu btrfs
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> histo, xangua created an usb with ubuntu lubuntu and xubuntu both 32bit and 64bit (6iso's) on 1 usb tnx alot great tool!
[04:03] <shasharala> Hrm... why is there a user named backup? I went to adduser backup, but it tells me there's a user named that already... but the user isn't even in /etc/passwd. I've tried looking for any info through Google, but I can't seem to find anything. Any ideas?
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> shasharala: you recently downloaded a rootkit? :p
[04:10] <shasharala> Hrm... why is there a user named backup? I went to adduser backup, but it tells me there's a user named that already... but the user isn't even in /etc/passwd. I've tried looking for any info through Google, but I can't seem to find anything. Any ideas?
[04:12] <Fyodorovna> http://askubuntu.com/questions/63685/what-is-the-default-backup-user-for for the record on a user named backup
[04:16] <Matt_> Is there a default ftp server running on Ubuntu 13.10?
[04:16] <Guest86329> Is there a default ftp server running on Ubuntu 13.10?
[04:16] <JordanJ2> Other then SFTP, no
[04:17] <halppls3993> Corrupt JPEG data: premature end of data segment
[04:17] <halppls3993> Aborted (core dumped)
[04:17] <halppls3993> I get this when I run skype
[04:17] <halppls3993> it runs for about 30 seconds
[04:17] <halppls3993> but then crashes
[04:18] <Guest86329> Is there a way to check settings/default directories for SFTP?
[04:18] <sporkeee> halppls3993, This the app opening or starting with a terminal?
[04:19] <halppls3993> sporkeee, yes
[04:19] <sporkeee> halppls3993, read again
[04:19] <halppls3993> I am starting it/opening it in terminal
[04:19] <halppls3993> why do you ask, sporkeee ?
[04:20] <sporkeee> halppls3993, Cool just wondering. This instaled from skype or the ubuntu repos?
[04:20] <halppls3993> Ubuntu repos
[04:21] <sporkeee> halppls3993, Not sure of any answer, we ask on occasion a terminal start for errors, it looked like you had, a rare occurrence here.
[04:21] <Guest86329> Also, another question - you probably get this alot, but i'm trying to get a program to run on start up without any particular user needing to login
[04:24] <blinking> For example - the system reboots but it sits there at the login screen, I need a program to run without having to be there to login or run it.
[04:24] <blinking> I did some research about init.d and to do a script but it began to confuse me a bit
[04:27] <blinking> Any help?
[04:31] <Viking667> hullo all. Does anyone here know how to get jackd to talk nice to pulseaudio? I've got a program that uses jack, and put bluntly, I'm not hearing jack out of my speakers
[04:32] <Viking667> ugh. Forget that. I just realised it's LITERALLY coming out my speakers, not my headphones.
[04:41] <fabian__> c
[04:41] <fabian__> c
[04:47] <motaka2> is there a way to run ubuntu update manager through a proxy ?
[04:51] <lastarms> motaka2: add the proxy in network manager?
[04:52] <wols_> motaka2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto#Setting_up_apt-get_to_use_a_http-proxy
[04:56] <Hardcheese> what's neopunk / neo punk cleaner that appears in my update manager?
[04:56] <motaka2> wols_: Can you please tell me how to do that with TOR proxy ?
[04:57] <wols_> why tor?
[04:57] <wols_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/35223/syntax-for-socks-proxy-in-apt-conf
[04:57] <wols_> tor acts as a socks proxy for the system
[05:00] <motaka2> wols_: I just have tor installed
[05:02] <kingbeowolf> anyone know if there is a limitation in ubuntu/linux on how many Cameras you can have connected?
[05:06] <alazyworkaholic> I reinstalled ubuntu. I had a separate /home folder, and I am CERTAIN that I did not format the existing /home partition, which was a raid0 array. As soon as I started the new install, I installed mdadm, which assembled the array, but with a single user and only default clean install files. Is there any way mdadm might be mis-assembling the array?
[05:08] <orbisvicis> I'm trying to use terminus in xterm/urxvt but it doesn't show up in fc-list, and neither 'xft:Terminus' nor '-*-terminus-*-*-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*' works
[05:09] <kingbeowolf> alazyworkaholic, did you use the alternative iso
[05:10] <orbisvicis> sorry, it doesn't show up in xfontsel, only in fc-list as a console font
[05:10] <alazyworkaholic> kingbeowolf: no, the usual ubuntu desktop x64 one.
[05:10] <kingbeowolf> alazyworkaholic, when i am setting up an array I use the console installer the gui one doesn't work well with raid
[05:11] <alazyworkaholic> kingbeowolf, ok, but if I didn't tell ubuntu to format it, that should be a pretty simple thing to get right. I'm hoping mdadm needs a fix
[05:12] <kingbeowolf> alazyworkaholic, well hopefully you have a backup
[05:12] <BlackAngelPR> ^^
[05:12] <diddledan> alazyworkaholic: it is actually mounted?
[05:13] <diddledan> alazyworkaholic: `sudo mount /home` will verify
[05:13] <diddledan> if it complains that /home isn't defined in fstab then you have your problem
[05:15] <Hardcheese> Isn't torifying apt-get a hazardous risk to your system?
[05:16] <Jonathan_R> i have a disability, staying vertical for long periods of time is not possible. i need speech to text so that the system will type what i say and perform the functions and commands i give it  most of the software seem to be geared for text to speech. i have installed LiSpeak, jovie, simon and some others
[05:17] <Hardcheese> Jonathan_R: how can you type right now?
[05:17] <Hardcheese> just curious
[05:17] <Jonathan_R> the normal way
[05:17] <Jonathan_R> i sit up and type
[05:17] <Jonathan_R> but consequently i can only do it for so long
[05:18] <a_run> i'm trying to PXE install ubuntu by creating a local mirror(amd64 ISO and apache)
[05:18] <a_run> i can wget the files from apache, but the installer says that it can't download file from mirror
[05:19] <a_run> any clues what I'd be doing wrong?
[05:20] <motaka2> What should I do with this error ?
[05:20] <a_run> apache access logs show 200 status for all files installer is asking for
[05:20] <motaka2> What should I do with this error ? http://prntscr.com/3rd0ay
[05:20] <kingbeowolf> Jonathan_R, can't you just set a wireless keyboard on your chest and type ?
[05:21] <Jonathan_R> no kingbeowolf
[05:21] <Hardcheese> Jonathan_R: I don't know any speech-to-text software on linux. But there are software where you can control the cursor by moving your head (perhaps even eyes) and have a virtual keyboard on the screen (which is slow though)
[05:21] <Jonathan_R> thats strains my neck as well
[05:22] <motaka2> What should I do with this error ? http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2014-06-10_09_42_49-yUVcDMZa.png
[05:22] <Hardcheese> Jonathan_R: perhaps something to hold the keyboard in a position you like?
[05:22] <Jonathan_R> yeah, moving my neck not such a good idea
[05:22] <Jonathan_R> i'll be getting surgery done on my neck
[05:22] <kingbeowolf> Jonathan_R, well you don't look at the keyboard you just type once you practice enough and you put the TV/Monitor high
[05:22] <Jonathan_R> actually i do
[05:22] <solarradiation> is fglrx the proprietary drivers for AMD or the open source?
[05:22] <orbisvicis> ok, I got it working
[05:22] <Hardcheese> Jonathan_R: how long do you need to stay that way? Can't you just be without a computer for some time?
[05:22] <Jonathan_R> i do the columbus method. i discover a new key
[05:23] <BlackAngelPR> Jonathan_R,  it seems Orca have preinstalled commandas https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Accessibility
[05:23] <BlackAngelPR> is this what you are looking for?
[05:23] <motaka2> Jonathan Stop this chat in here
[05:23] <Jonathan_R> Hardcheese, the rest of my life
[05:23] <kingbeowolf> Jonathan_R, haha
[05:23] <Jonathan_R> we are talking a permanent disability
[05:23] <Hardcheese> Jonathan_R: will it affect your hands?
[05:23] <Jonathan_R> arthritis has almost fused 2 discs
[05:23] <kingbeowolf> Jonathan_R, i know i saw something about being able to talk to your computer
[05:23] <Jonathan_R> possibly
[05:24] <BlackAngelPR> Jonathan_R,  http://simon-listens.org/   it says its the most complete
[05:24] <kingbeowolf> Jonathan_R, i just haven't looked into that stuff at all
[05:24] <Jonathan_R> i could be paralized
[05:24] <Jonathan_R> i'm not a n00b to linux
[05:24] <Jonathan_R> i can compil gentoo
[05:24] <Jonathan_R> i did the for a while
[05:24] <Jonathan_R> its just a matter of finding the software in this case
[05:25] <Hardcheese> Jonathan_R: well, I suppose more expensive software could do what you want. Windows vista ultimate for one, has that ability, and that was a long time ago. But I don't know of any free ones.
[05:25] <solarradiation> haha yes, compiling gentoo, watching gcc output fly across the screen makes you an expert
[05:25] <Jonathan_R> LiSpeak seems to be the closest, but i havent finished configuring it and i still nee to test it
[05:25] <Viking667> So, does anyone here know how to set up jack to point to another sound device and actually USE it?
[05:25] <Jonathan_R> i aint using windows (unless i got no choice)
[05:26] <Viking667> because whenever I try, the audio client (in this case, mplayer) only ever seems to point to the default jack
[05:26] <Hardcheese> Jonathan_R: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Speech_Recognition
[05:26] <Viking667> (and I've got pulseaudio running too)
[05:26] <Jonathan_R> http://lispeak.bmandesigns.com/tutorial/install
[05:26] <Jonathan_R> yeah i read that already Hardcheese
[05:27] <Hardcheese> Jonathan_R: the proprietary ones could be options.
[05:27] <quoexl> Hello, I have been googling all night on how to make a TOR relay on ubuntu, any help?
[05:27] <clin> hi, any irc group for discussing graph algorithms?
[05:27] <Jonathan_R> true
[05:27] <BlackAngelPR> this one ....   http://simon-listens.org/index.php?id=122&L=1
[05:28] <buzzbadger> hi, anyone here use tails from a thumb drive?
[05:28] <Jonathan_R> ty BlackAngelPR
[05:28] <Jonathan_R> i do have simon installed
[05:28] <Viking667> buzzbadger: you're going to have to elaborate.
[05:28] <Jonathan_R> now its just configuring it
[05:28] <BlackAngelPR> great
[05:28] <Viking667> ...I know what a thumb drive, what do you mean by "tails"?
[05:28] <diddledan> quoexl: `sudo apt-get install tor` then edit /etc/tor/torrc to your liking followed by `sudo service tor start` - your router will need to forward the relevant ports you specify (default 9001 for relay-only)
[05:28] <aeon-ltd> buzzbadger: tails is not ubuntu
[05:29] <quoexl> omg you are my hero diddledan
[05:29] <buzzbadger> well, I'm still in the process of making a Tails usb. I made a dvd from an iso and want to know if I did it correctly. Instructions say I should be able to run the tails installer from there and clone to a usb.  I don't see any file on the cd that I can get to run, much less an installer.
[05:30] <kalen> hey everyone. Anyone else having issues with 14.04, Nvidia, and screen tearing?
[05:30] <buzzbadger> I'm using Ubuntu 14.04, that's why I asked in this room.
[05:30] <aeon-ltd> buzzbadger: https://tails.boum.org/support/index.en.html there is a tails specific channel on irc.oftc.net you'll probably have better luck there
[05:30] <diddledan> quoexl: if you're planning on running it long-term you might as well plop your details on here when it's up-and-running to potentially earn some swag: https://www.eff.org/torchallenge/
[05:30] <BlackAngelPR> kalen, what drivers do you have installed?
[05:31] <BlackAngelPR> :S
[05:31] <kalen> I tried adding adding -bs to 50-xserver-command.conf, and I installed the PPA from this post here, neither seem to have worked: http://askubuntu.com/questions/450593/how-do-i-eliminate-screen-tearing-on-14-04-and-xbmc-with-nvidia-331
[05:31] <kalen> BlackAngelPR: the Nvidia binary drivers
[05:31] <Viking667> buzzbadger: as aeon-ltd has already specified, there's an IRC channel over on irc.oftc.net for tails.
[05:31] <buzzbadger> great, I'll try to find it now. thanks guys
[05:31] <kalen> 331.38 from "additional drivers"
[05:32] <BlackAngelPR> kalen, try the stable ones for me the binary gives me problems before as well on a ati
[05:32] <BlackAngelPR> and on my sister computer only stable works
[05:32] <kalen> you mean the Nouveau drivers?
[05:32] <BlackAngelPR> binary do not on ati
[05:32] <BlackAngelPR> on nvidida i mean
[05:32] <quoexl> thank you sir, sounds like a project for me
[05:33] <kalen> sorry, that's what I meant, the stable drivers from the Ubuntu Software & Updates, not the binaries from their website
[05:33] <quoexl> ati drivers have always been doodie
[05:33] <kalen> proprietary tested version
[05:36] <quoexl> I have a 12.04 server at my shop, currently running...samba, ftp, simple help, ntp, lamp, ssh, x11vnc... what other toys should I play with?
[05:36] <quoexl> oh sms gateway
[05:38] <quoexl> oh, and asterisk
[05:38] <quoexl> anyone home?
[05:39] <BlackAngelPR> quoexl, http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/allpackages
[05:40] <BlackAngelPR> you could do a search there
[05:51] <lkthomas> hey guys, how could I use AllowUnauthenticated for a specific repo only ?
[06:05] <megamansec> Hi everybody. I'm testing out the program 'ecryptfs-verify', but I don't understand the -p flag. the manual says 'True if a non-HOME directory is correctly configured for encryption, False otherwise.', but ecryptfs can only encrypt SWAP and $home directories, no?
[06:11] <megamansec> nvm. It's for OTHER mouanted devices.
[06:19] <quoexl> Anyone home?
[06:19] <ObrienDave> nope
[06:21] <quoexl> Dave I am trying to jam as much fun into 1 box as I can, currently I got LAMP, Simple Help, proftpd, samba, squid, ssh, x11vnc
[06:22] <quoexl> what toys am I missing?
[06:22] <kalen> quoexl it usually helps to have a purpose to use a tool
[06:23] <quoexl> well I am looking for tools to give me a purpose, this is an experimental server, not production
[06:23] <quoexl> been toying around with TOR but not sure if I want in that business
[06:24] <quoexl> I been messing with ubuntu since breezy and I have 1 thing I could not master...ldap
[06:25] <quoexl> I make a pigs breakfast of it every time
[06:27] <taotao> hello world
[06:27] <quoexl> the first program you create in any given language
[06:28] <taotao> haha
[06:29] <quoexl> hey taotao know what this is ^c^quit^x^quit dammit^exit
[06:29] <quoexl> everyone's first session in vi
[06:29] <taotao> i don't know. this is my first time to log in this .
[06:30] <quoexl> oh, welcome to my nightmare
[06:30] <quoexl> whatcha wanna know?
[06:30] <taotao> what is this?
[06:30] <quoexl> this is the Ubuntu support chat
[06:31] <taotao> ok. so we can ask questions about ubuntu?
[06:31] <quoexl> yuppers
[06:31] <quoexl> there are alot of us here so ask your arse off
[06:31] <quoexl> !ask
[06:33] <quoexl> ATH1...ACK
[06:35] <quoexl> nihao yimao
[06:35] <ev0l1ost> how
[06:35] <quoexl> en how!
[06:36] <ev0l1ost> error…
[06:36] <quoexl> operator headspace error
[06:36] <dubey> Hi
[06:37] <quoexl> hilo dubey
[06:38] <quoexl> what's on yer mind?
[06:38] <dubey> I am using ubuntu 10.04LTS and openssl version 0.9.8k-7ubuntu8.15. apt-get update/upgrade upgraded to 0.9.8k-7ubuntu8.18
[06:38] <ev0l1ost> how can i build pptp server in ubuntu with ipv6 only
[06:39] <ev0l1ost> i can only build it when ubuntu has an ipv4 address
[06:40] <dubey> What i want to upgrade it to 0.9.8za-7ubuntu
[06:40] <mashu> what is the difference between apt (advanced packaging tool), aptitude and synaptic
[06:40] <mashu> ??
[06:40] <yimao> I am using ubuntu 12.04.  10.04 ubuntu may be older
[06:41] <blinking> Can anybody link to a tutorial on how to begin a program on start up automatically?
[06:41] <quoexl> they all use apt and dpkg to get and install the file, just some are more graphic than others
[06:42] <quoexl> blinking: you want to run it as a daemon?
[06:42] <blinking> quoexl: yes - It needs to run without any interaction.
[06:43] <quoexl> ok how familiar are you with init.d directory
[06:44] <histo> blinking: /etc/rc.local
[06:44] <quoexl> histo, take him there
[06:44] <histo> blinking: what does your program do?
[06:44] <Corvette> Every time I start ubuntu I have to recalibrate my screens positioning. Why won't it save
[06:45] <blinking> thanks quoexl. histo: It's a utorrent server
[06:45] <mashu> Corvette, do you mean the layout of your monitors?
[06:45] <Corvette> mashu es
[06:45] <triplc> hi all. Which image is to install barebone Ubuntu (no X) to start a desktop? previously (12.04) i download the 'alternate' image. However i do not see 14.04 alternate
[06:45] <Corvette> yes
[06:46] <mashu> Corvette, is it only wrong on the login screen or ... even after you log in?
[06:46] <Corvette> No actually the login screen is correct every time but when I log in it changes
[06:46] <histo> blinking: the gui utorrent app?
[06:46] <histo> triplc: it's there
[06:46] <blinking> histo: No gui, just the server itself
[06:47] <mashu> Corvette, so your using dual monitors? what graphics card are you using?
[06:47] <histo> blinking: ahh well there should be a way to daemonize it.
[06:47] <Corvette> mashu quadruple monitors with a GTX670
[06:47] <blinking> histo: Thats what I was thinking, but i'm not familiar with scripting just yet in linux
[06:47] <triplc> histo: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads <-- i only see alternate image for 12.04.4
[06:47] <mashu> NVIDIA?
[06:47] <histo> blinking: isn't utorrent windows program?
[06:47] <rww> !mini | triplc
[06:47] <Corvette> mashu indeed
[06:47] <rww> !alternate | histo
[06:48] <blinking> histo: No exclusively.
[06:48] <mashu> Corvette, what driver are you using?
[06:48] <blinking> not*
[06:48] <Corvette> mashu the proprietary drivers
[06:48] <mashu> Corvette, did you install one? are you using the generic or the NVidia one?
[06:48] <Corvette> mashu I'm using the nvidia proprietary drivers the newest ones
[06:48] <mashu> Corvette, the tested one?
[06:48] <Corvette> mashu es
[06:48] <histo> ahh nice
[06:49] <Corvette> yes
[06:49] <mashu> Corvette, do you have Xserver installed?
[06:49] <histo> triplc: use the server iso then
[06:49] <histo> triplc: or the mini.iso
[06:49] <Corvette> mashu nvidia x server settings?
[06:49] <mashu> Corvette, yeah
[06:49] <histo> blinking: let me find a page for ya
[06:49] <Corvette> mashu yes
[06:49] <triplc> oh i see.. it is "netinstall" (like debian)
[06:49] <blinking> histo: cheers mate.
[06:50] <mashu> Corvette, under X server infromation ->> X server display configuration --> did you set the layout and then click "save to X configuration file?
[06:51] <Corvette> mashu I tried to do that once but for some reason that app is glitchy on the new ubuntu, the default display app works better. Is that nvidia app reconfiguring it every time I log in?
[06:51] <mashu> Corvette, im not sure ...
[06:52] <mashu> Corvette, im trying to trouble shoot
[06:52] <histo> blinking: http://blog.droidzone.in/2013/03/09/how-to-start-utorrent-server-at-boot-on-debian/  follow the directions for on older than debian6
[06:52] <Corvette> I'll find out brb
[06:52] <mashu> Corvette, try that again ... save it to the configuration file and restart and see if it works if not ...
[06:52] <mashu> Corvette, i have one last idea
[06:52] <histo> rww: why'd they get rid of it?
[06:53] <mashu> Corvette, override the existing file
[06:53] <mashu> Corvette, i have the new ubuntu and im not having any issues with it
[06:53] <Corvette> brb
[06:54] <rww> histo: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-August/035675.html
[06:54] <rww> histo: tl;dr: Ubiquity does non-standard partitioning stuff now.
[06:55] <rww> (not that I agree with dropping it, but there's the reasoning)
[06:55] <histo> rww: is the server kernel different or the same nowadays
[06:56] <rww> histo: linux-image-server is a transitional package to linux-image-generic, so...
[06:56] <histo> triplc: yeah from the net installer there is command line install
[06:57] <rww> (apparently this is since 12.04)
[06:57] <triplc> i see
[06:57] <histo> rww: they could just get rid of server release then just have desktop and net
[06:58] <rww> histo: server comes with server-related packages on the CD, which I guess might be useful sometimes
[06:58]  * rww shrugs
[06:58] <histo> rww: true I guess.
[06:58] <rww> my preferred ISO for servers is a Debian netinst, not an Ubuntu anything, so...
[06:58] <blinking> histo: Thankyou for that, i'll check it out
[06:58] <histo> rww: I second that.
[06:59] <histo> blinking: you're basically creating an init script to control the start and stopping of the utserver
[07:01] <dubey> can someone guide me how to upgrade  openssl 0.9.8k TO 0.9.8za ?
[07:01] <triplc> My idea is to have a minimal desktop (X/nvidia/i3...) and I found that the alternate image is good. I can install it fast and play with it. If something not happy, i can reinstall,... and at last i get a good desktop
[07:01] <triplc> but using the netistall is not that good
[07:01] <triplc> each time installation will take a lot of time
[07:02] <triplc> so it does not allow me to test
[07:03] <triplc> during the 12.04 install --my current desktop-- i had played with pulseaudio include/exclude, gvfs, etc. before geting exactly what i want
[07:05] <histo> triplc: well then you'd have to use the server iso
[07:05] <histo> triplc: I have high speed internet so the net install isn't a problem here. I also use i3
[07:05] <luckybunny> anyone know what this little issue is I ran into on my desktop? From the looks of things, update-manager wants to downgrade wine for me. Obviously, I'd rather upgrade, not downgrade
[07:05] <luckybunny> here's a screenshot from synaptic http://i.imgur.com/ctmbhKU.png
[07:05] <triplc> yeah... hope that the server iso does not include other stuffs
[07:05] <Corvette> musha it did not work
[07:05] <Corvette> mashu
[07:05] <scipy53> When I run uname -r, i get this: 3.13.0-29-generic but I can't find related kernel here: https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.x/
[07:05] <mashu> Corvette, hmmm
[07:05] <scipy53> any help? please!
[07:05] <mashu> go to your home folder
[07:06] <histo> scipy53: what are you trying to do?
[07:06] <scipy53> histo, I am trying to run some kernel patches, I installed chrubuntu and updated my kernel, which disabled my trackpad
[07:06] <triplc> scipy53: ubuntu have it's own way of naming that number
[07:06] <histo> !derivative | scipy53
[07:07] <histo> !derivatives | scipy53
[07:07] <scipy53> scipy53, So how should I do it? im following second post here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2223738
[07:07] <scipy53> well, im just trying to make sure i am figuring out my kernel version correctly
[07:09] <xuhaiwei_> Hi, I met a problem when installing ubuntu14.04, 'unable to install grub to /dev/xxxx' , what is the reason?
[07:09] <histo> triplc: the one thing that burns my behind with i3 is that you can't exit without using the mouse by default. You have to go up there and click exit i3
[07:10] <triplc> in that forum, you can see that they use the apt-get source linux-image-$mykern to grab what is the ubuntu patches
[07:10] <histo> xuhaiwei_: which disk are you using?
[07:10] <dupingping> who can help me?
[07:10] <histo> !ask | dupingping
[07:10] <triplc> then you get the version,... not my 'uname -r' (which tell ubuntu number)
[07:10] <xuhaiwei_> histo: you mean sda or sdb?
[07:10] <dupingping> I see.
[07:11] <histo> xuhaiwei_: No which iso are you using
[07:11] <histo> sry
[07:11] <xuhaiwei_> ubuntu14.04
[07:11] <dupingping> I am using Canon Pixma IP1180, but in ubuntu12.04lts I could not print with it.
[07:11] <SpoonAlien> hello
[07:11] <triplc> histo: i3? exit? yeah... i do not use XDM at all; i just wrote a script and get it called in rc.local, so that when computer boot, i go right into X/i3
[07:11] <triplc> no login needed
[07:12] <dupingping> how to download exactly printer driver?
[07:12] <triplc> so no logout needed either
[07:12] <dupingping> histo: can you help me?
[07:12] <xuhaiwei_> histo: ubuntu14.04 LTS Server
[07:12] <histo> dupingping: did you try going to printers in the dash and just adding it?
[07:13] <histo> xuhaiwei_: did you retry that step in the installer?
[07:13] <dupingping> histo: yes. I tried everything.
[07:15] <xuhaiwei_> histo:sorry, i don't know how to try in the installer
[07:15] <hackvictim> hello
[07:15] <dupingping> http://askubuntu.com/questions/313252/canon-ip1180-printer-driver-for-ubuntu
[07:15] <histo> dupingping: what make model printer do you have?
[07:15] <histo> nvm
[07:15] <dupingping> histo: Canon, Pixma IP1180.
[07:16] <histo> dupingping: did you see the answer to your question to download the driver from canon
[07:16] <dupingping> yes, but...
[07:16] <quoexl> hello hackvictim
[07:16] <hackvictim> hey guys, not sure if thats the right place but i have an really uncomfortable issue...
[07:16] <hackvictim> i run several minecraft servers (2 hardware boxes, 1 vps as nginx/varnish combo for webservices) am actually a sysadmin so i am technically familair with all this... but for some months we have this guy, who just is able to gain access to either our ssh root shells or to the minecraft consoles as well.
[07:17] <quoexl> !ask
[07:17] <histo> dupingping: extract the tgz you download and look for a readme or directions
[07:17] <hackvictim> i was able to get in touch with him, kind already friends, but he said "he is using ubuntu kernel bugs to gain root since months"
[07:17] <quoexl> ask away hackvictim
[07:17] <hackvictim> which is not released to anyone
[07:17] <dupingping> yes, I see.
[07:17] <hackvictim> is this possible? i mean, this guy seems like a kid
[07:17] <hackvictim> and i somehow doubt at my skills, becuase i cant get him away
[07:17] <CommissarSierra> PErsonally, I think that 90% of the time, if they brag, they're nothing
[07:18] <CommissarSierra> The real hackers won't announce it like that
[07:18] <hackvictim> we use a hardened iptables config, openvpn network between the servers
[07:18] <hackvictim> fail2ban, etc
[07:18] <histo> dupingping: I also found this
[07:18] <histo> dupingping: http://www.unixmen.com/install-canon-pixma-ip1880-in-linux/
[07:18] <CommissarSierra> Also I'm half asleep so I probably shouldnt be talking.
[07:18] <histo> dupingping: here is a deb allegedly https://sites.google.com/site/sayeed76/Home/googleb1da27a3f5a65e86
[07:18] <hackvictim> CommissarSierra: but what could it be that he is able to gain root acess
[07:19] <hackvictim> on this box: Linux r2-d2 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.41-2+deb7u2 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:19] <quoexl> hackvictim: one set of eyes on a problem takes 1000 years to solve, 1000 sets of eyes solve the problem in minutes
[07:19] <CommissarSierra> hackvictim: He has login details to someone's account?
[07:19] <hackvictim> no commissarie, i change all ssh accounts
[07:19] <hackvictim> *passwords and keys
[07:19] <hackvictim> if something like this happens
[07:19] <hackvictim> and it takes some hours and he is in there again, if he wants to
[07:20] <hackvictim> he doesnt do anything stupid of broken, but im still feeling very uncomfortable
[07:20] <CommissarSierra> hackvictim How did you distribute the new login details? Could be a compromised email account, someone sharing details, etc. Just trying to throw out ideas here.
[07:20] <histo> hackvictim: how do you know he's there?
[07:20] <histo> hackvictim: also have you checked your auth.log's
[07:20] <hackvictim> histo, he can show me output of files with root perms
[07:21] <hackvictim> i am in touch with him
[07:21] <hackvictim> he said he oesnt leave any trails
[07:21] <quoexl> do you have x11vnc running as a daemon?
[07:21] <histo> hackvictim: check your auth.log's
[07:21] <quoexl> that is horsesquat, auth.log sees all
[07:21] <histo> quoexl: well all until you clear it
[07:22] <quoexl> unless that file is GONE then he might have been there
[07:22] <quoexl> he would have to create a auth.log that looks convincing
[07:22] <quoexl> btdt
[07:23] <blinking> histo: for what ever reason, attempting to start the script that link showed me does not work.
[07:23] <histo> hackvictim: I howly doubt it's through ssh that he's gaining access what other remote administration holes do you have?
[07:23] <histo> blinking: well you'd have to describe 'doesn't work' for anyone to help you.
[07:23] <blinking> histo: I don't think it's getting the input I type in after I run it ./utstart start
[07:23] <hackvictim> histo: nothing, i get auth logs right now
[07:24] <hackvictim> histo: i mean no security wholes
[07:24] <histo> blinking: well what directoins are you following?
[07:24] <hackvictim> on that server where he got access, only nginx/varnish/mysql is running
[07:24] <histo> hackvictim: do you know his IP ?
[07:24] <hackvictim> but mysql not from external
[07:24] <hackvictim> histo: no, i didnt seen any ip logs from him yet
[07:25] <blinking> histo: I created the script which has a case statement with start) stop) and so forth, it says to run the script use ./utstart start however this just returns Usage: start stop
[07:25] <histo> blinking: where did you put the script?
[07:25] <blinking> histo: within /etc/init.d
[07:25] <blinking> histo: I even attempted to use sudo and run it like that
[07:26] <histo> blinking: you would have to sudo /etc/init.d/utserver start
[07:26] <scipy53> when i run uname -r and get "3.13.0-29-generic", what exactly does that mean. The 0-29 generic part, anyway.
[07:26] <quoexl> did you use the skeleton template blinking
[07:26] <histo> scipy53: please ask the makers of your distro
[07:26] <scipy53> ok, ill ask in xubuntu
[07:26] <blinking> histo: yes, I tried that. but it continues to just echo Usage: start stop
[07:27] <histo> scipy53: you said you were using chrubuntu or something
[07:27] <blinking> quoexl: yes I did - I change the path to utserver though
[07:27] <histo> !info linux-image
[07:27] <scipy53> histo, Chrubuntu is just a script to install a *buntu on a chromebook
[07:28] <hackvictim> histo: thats the accepted connections by auth.log
[07:28] <hackvictim> http://hastebin.com/manaroxore
[07:28] <hackvictim> tons of failed request but thats normal... thats why i have fail2ban
[07:29] <mashu> should i use aptitude or apt-get?
[07:29] <hackvictim> what else should i look at? :S
[07:30] <histo> hackvictim: why are you allowing root login via ssh for one?
[07:30] <Pris0ner> Hi!
[07:30] <hackvictim> histo: true
[07:30] <CommissarSierra> hackvictim: Anything at all that allows remote access to the server
[07:30] <hackvictim> thanks, i'll disable that immedietly
[07:30] <blinking> histo, quoexl: is the case statement case "" in correct?
[07:31] <Pris0ner> How are you?
[07:31] <hackvictim> CommissarSierra: http://hastebin.com/giganedeqa
[07:31] <histo> hackvictim: why do you even have root account enable for two.. Also therre are only two different people logging in there. You'd have to determine his IP and see if it matches
[07:31] <hackvictim> histo: thats all me
[07:31] <hackvictim> one at home, at then at work
[07:31] <kDycuLaptop> Is there a handy way to search to entire file system for references to a specfic file?
[07:32] <histo> kDycuLaptop: find
[07:32] <histo> kDycuLaptop: find / -type f -iname 'whatever*'
[07:33] <hackvictim> be right back... coffee break, ping me and i'll read up when i get back in 15 min :)
[07:33] <quoexl> damn long way for a coffee
[07:33] <histo> hackvictim: run a root kit hunter and see
[07:33] <histo> hackvictim: like apt-get install rkhunter
[07:34] <JerryP> Anyone know of a good alternative to using iTunes to sync music, videos, and photos to an iPhone? That is the primary thing that is holding me from dumping windows and only using my ubuntu. Thanks!
[07:34] <quoexl> JerryP you could use samba
[07:35] <xangua> JerryP: a virtual machine running windows or change to use a device that is not closed
[07:35] <quoexl> or proftpd
[07:35] <histo> !iphone | JerryP
[07:35] <JerryP> xangua, then all of my music, videos, and pictures need to be on the virtual machine, right?
[07:38] <quoexl> network troubles?
[07:38] <trijntje> I'm trying to install ubuntu with the mini.iso to /dev/sdb. However, the installer automatically puts grub on /dev/sda. How can I fix this?
[07:39] <IPMan> network troubles?
[07:39] <IPMan> I am IP Man!
[07:39] <CommissarSierra> Ta ta ta TAAA
[07:39] <CommissarSierra> Also dont think I've seen any network issues
[07:39] <Guest91754> dum dee deeda dum dee deeda
[07:39] <Guest91754> no work for IP Man?
[07:40] <histo> trijntje: you can choose where to install it during the partitioning step there.
[07:40] <Quoexl> ok back to me
[07:41] <Quoexl> we have a running joke at work of who gets to be Ip Man for a day
[07:42] <trijntje> histo: I can select to install to /dev/sdb, which I did. However, you cannot select where to install grub, and it defaults to /dev/sda
[07:43] <histo> trijntje: well yes you would need grub on sda to boot properly or you can manually install grub to sdb. Then you'd have to change the boot priority of your drives every time you wanted to boot ubuntu.
[07:44] <trijntje> histo: no, the internal harddisk is /dev/sdb
[07:44] <histo> trijntje: Why can't you install grub to /dev/sdb?
[07:45] <FredddyTom> hi.. i've been trying to share a directory with another ubuntu 12.04 computer on the network
[07:45] <FredddyTom> it doesn't seem to work.. where are the log files for it?
[07:45] <Quoexl> because the windows drive lives in the boot sector of sda
[07:45] <trijntje> histo: what do you mean? The installer defaults to /dev/sda and I dont get an option to install it somewhere else when using the mini.iso
[07:46] <histo> trijntje: do you have to option of "Something Else"  ?
[07:47] <trijntje> histo: no, I only have to option to install grub or lilo
[07:47] <Quoexl> wtf distro uses lilo anymore?
[07:48] <tothebeach> hey, sorry to bop in and drop a demand for info, but... anyone know anything about bioset? Is it a system process ?
[07:48] <histo> trijntje: hold on let me get my install to that point
[07:49] <Quoexl> tothebeach: tried man -k binset
[07:49] <trijntje> histo: ok, i'm trying to install grub manually from chroot but somehow grub-installer isnt present
[07:50] <tothebeach> Quoexl: nada
[07:50] <tothebeach> :(
[07:50] <cjae> hey is it possible to move the panel or docker or whatever now in unity, or is it possible to move the oOX window buttons to the right now? havent been in unity in ages
[07:51] <xangua> cjae: no and no
[07:51] <Quoexl> unity is poo
[07:52] <tothebeach> Quoexl: So its not a process your familiar with right?
[07:52] <Stanley00> Quoexl: unity is as great as you know how to use it ;)
[07:52] <tothebeach> I am seeing it pop up on bitcoin miners, vps's and random boxes I have
[07:52] <Quoexl> I have fiddled with unity for quite a while and still prefer gnome
[07:53] <Quoexl> its a personal preference
[07:53] <tothebeach> even after flashing etc.
[07:53] <FredddyTom> hey i can't get the sharing to work in ubuntu at all.. i'm trying to share files between one ubuntu 12.04 and another.. there are no logs in /var/log/samba and the username and password i am using is correct
[07:54] <tothebeach> am I paranoid or is this something I may need to worry about?
[07:54] <Quoexl> everyone is going to scream for my head for saying this but webmin is the way to fix samba
[07:54] <histo> trijntje: does it try and install grub at the end?
[07:54] <histo> trijntje: did you already create your user etc...?
[07:54] <Overlordz> I've found a fun bug with Ubuntu...
[07:55] <trijntje> histo: yes, grub is one of the last things to get installed
[07:55] <histo> trijntje: there is a rescue mode on the mini.iso  i'm just checking if they have to grub tools there
[07:55] <bcvery> !bug | Overlordz
[07:56] <Overlordz> gracias
[07:56] <loa> hello, i have such problem when i try update ubuntu from 13.10 to 14.04 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.06.10-11%3A56%3A01.png
[07:56] <tothebeach> so, is anyone familiar with bioset?
[07:56] <bcvery> !ask | tothebeach
[07:57] <hackvictim> histo: will try that now :)
[07:57] <tothebeach> bcvery, thanks?
[07:58] <larrypg> tothebeach, might have something to do with trucrypt...block in out set
[07:58] <trijntje> histo: ok, I got grub on sdb by dropping to a prompt, chrooting into the install, installing grub-pc and grub-common and running grub-install /dev/sdb. I should probably file a bug for the alternate installer. I know that the graphical installer defaults grub to the device that has / on it
[07:59] <tothebeach> larrypg: interesting, but its popping up on openwrt\ubuntu and dd-wrt, some are even vps boxes....
[08:00] <tothebeach> and I cant seem to find any info (which was what made me suspicious)
[08:01] <tothebeach> google\duckduck "process bioset" and there is a noticable lack of information, a few posts by users like myself asking about it without any clear answers
[08:01] <larrypg> tothebeach, although not that helpful...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2227781
[08:03] <tothebeach> larrypg: I read over that just before giving up and dropping in here.
[08:03] <tothebeach> thanks though :)
[08:04] <cjae> Ok so if you cant move anything to the right, do any alternate DE works correctly in 14.04 yet? I installed one awhile back and it borked the system
[08:05] <cjae> I mean installing them side by side
[08:05] <tothebeach> perhaps if I ask again during the day tommorow ... whats an active hour in this channel?
[08:05] <Quoexl> you could try gnome-desktop-fallback
[08:06] <cjae> think I tried flashback or whatever they called it
[08:06] <Quoexl> then install gdm and select it over lightdm
[08:06] <Quoexl> well try sudo apt-cache search gnome-desktop-fallback
[08:06] <cjae> from my understanding not everything is ported over the 14.04 repos yet?
[08:07] <Quoexl> I think gnome made it
[08:07] <motaka2> When I try to install open JDK this does happen. Wha should I do ?
[08:07] <motaka2>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7622308/
[08:07] <cjae> I know compiz isnt
[08:08] <Quoexl> its pretty and all but it doesnt enhance productivity
[08:08] <cjae> and is it even gonna be? since its development is halted
[08:08] <cfhowlett> cjae no development = unlikely to be ported
[08:09] <cjae> lots of work to be "left behind"
[08:09] <Quoexl> I think its both the left and the right behind personally
[08:09] <cfhowlett> motaka2 as it states ; select one
[08:10] <Quoexl> it should say "Do it NOW, monkey?"
[08:10] <cjae> Quoexl, you mean the right decison?
[08:10] <motaka2> cfhowlett: How?
[08:10] <cfhowlett> motaka2 sudo apt-get install thisone or thatone
[08:11] <cfhowlett> motaka2 you have two options listed.  choose one or the other
[08:11] <motaka2> cfhowlett: I dont want something from oracle. Cause it is closed to my country
[08:11] <cjae> decision*
[08:12] <Quoexl> well that makes the decision easy
[08:13]  * cjae thinks it sad to see stuff go like that
[08:13]  * Quoexl to oracle or not to oracle
[08:14] <demoz> hello,i have a cron job which start the script.script path is /var/log/script/script.sh ,however the output is under /root/ instead of the place where the script is iniciated. Is there some argument which will output results of script to correct folder ?
[08:14] <Quoexl> sure run it under sudo su
[08:14] <cjae> think of all the arguments, " come to bed honey" hang on just gotta finish this beryl code......divorce
[08:15] <Quoexl> think of this old man's wisdom, marry a geek
[08:15] <demoz> Quoexl is that reply for me :o ?
[08:15] <cjae> hahaha yee
[08:17] <fluter> is upstart now used in any releases?
[08:17] <fluter> or it has been replaced with systemd completely?
[08:17] <loa> hello, i have such problem when i am trying to update ubuntu from 13.10 to 14.04 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.06.10-11%3A56%3A01.png
[08:17] <Quoexl> nope that was for cjae
[08:17] <Quoexl> but take that to heart demoz
[08:18] <ikonia> fluter: systemd will come in later releases.
[08:18] <fluter> ikonia, so upstart is still serving now, right?
[08:18] <demoz> lol
[08:18] <ikonia> fluter: correct
[08:19] <fluter> why no one answer upstart questions? even in #upstart :(
[08:19] <cfhowlett> !patience|fluter
[08:20] <Quoexl> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpstartHowto
[08:20] <ikonia> fluter I have no idea why no-one answered your question, I'm not in control of their thought process
[08:20] <Quoexl> heck, I'm not even in control of my thought process
[08:20] <fluter> I added my service to a upstart job, and it will fork twice, I use expect daemon, and in script block, exec mydaemon
[08:20] <fluter> but upstart cannot track my pid
[08:21] <Quoexl> do you have the skeleton template in init.d
[08:21] <fluter> Quoexl, no, just in /etc/init/myservice.conf
[08:22] <onlygod> Hi guys , i have problem with my network-manager on ubuntu , it doesn't show wireless SSIDs ,indeed i have wlan0 interface , what's the problem ?
[08:23] <tomodachi> onlygod: sounds like a wifi driver issue
[08:23] <Quoexl> onlygod: forgive my humor, its a borked wifi driver
[08:23] <hackvictim> histo: thats my result: http://hastebin.com/pifiluwoku
[08:24] <onlygod> tomodachi: Quoexl  that driver was working for years , iwl3495
[08:25] <onlygod> tomodachi: Quoexl  and i have tried rmmod & modprobe too
[08:25] <tomodachi> onlygod: I dont know this would be my first assumption, try booting an older kernel. Might be a newly introduced bug
[08:25] <Quoexl> any updates come through lately?
[08:26] <Quoexl> ok the IT in me has to say "have you turned it off and back on again?"
[08:29] <tothebeach> cjae, sure blame it on the code, the stripper had nothing to do with it
[08:29] <Quoexl> lapdances are much better if the stripper is crying
[08:29] <cfhowlett> !ot
[08:29] <Quoexl> sorry
[08:29] <cfhowlett> let's keep it clean - family friendly channel here
[08:30] <Pupeno_> Is there a command to verify whether a user belongs to a group?
[08:30] <tothebeach> sorry, couldnt resist, will keep in mind the channel topic :)
[08:30] <brainbleach> ok I'm better
[08:31] <onlygod> tomodachi: this happened while my system crashed and rebooted , after system booted , wlan0 is not going to be up automatically like before ..why ?
[08:33] <Quoexl> check /etc/network/interfaces and see if anything has changed
[08:37] <loa> is there official way to backup ubuntu files?
[08:38] <loa> want something like system snapshot
[08:38] <Quoexl> loa do you have an external drive of equal size?
[08:39] <solarradiation> loa there are probably sophisticated ways to do so, but i usually just backup my home directory
[08:39] <onlygod> tomodachi: i think this is why i was configuring hostapd before , but i don't know which step may cause wlan not be up automatically
[08:39] <loa> Quoexl, i want backup only system files before update
[08:40] <solarradiation> loa you mean backup before every apt-get upgrade?
[08:40] <loa> i think about just rsync
[08:40] <solarradiation> you do not need to do that
[08:41] <loa> solarradiation, becouse?
[08:41] <Quoexl> I use rsync and cron all day every day
[08:41] <loa> o love my current env.
[08:41] <solarradiation> loa b/c linux upgrades are more, uhh... robust than windows
[08:42] <solarradiation> it you want to keep configs only, may etckeeper
[08:42] <Quoexl> yeah someone can come along and give you unity
[08:42] <loa> i have problem with upgrading to 14.04...
[08:42] <solarradiation> well i'm talking about within-release upgrades
[08:42] <solarradiation> dist-upgrades are slightly different
[08:42] <Quoexl> loa: what is the problem
[08:42] <SierraAR> Out of curiousity, what would you guys recommend I replace unity with in 14.04?
[08:43] <solarradiation> xfce
[08:43] <SierraAR> Hm.. xfce is what comes with xubuntu isnt it?
[08:43] <loa> i post problem ealier few times, can i repost?
[08:43] <Quoexl> imho sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop-fallback and gdm
[08:43] <cfhowlett> SierraAR try them all and make your own choice:  sudo apt-get install xfce4 lxde kde
[08:44] <SierraAR> cfhowlett: I didnt know I could have them all installed at once like that, that wont cause conflicts?
[08:44] <loa> Quoexl, hello, i have such problem when i try update ubuntu from 13.10 to 14.04 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.06.10-11%3A56%3A01.png
[08:44] <cfhowlett> SierraAR that command installs ONLY the desktop environments, not the meta packages.  and since you can only use a single DE at a time, no conflict.
[08:45] <cfhowlett> SierraAR OR you could install virtualbox, put a *buntu into VBOX and test with zero risk to your primary OS
[08:46] <Quoexl> loa: the way I did it is EXTREMELY not suggested.
[08:46] <loa> Quoexl, it message from update-manager
[08:46] <SierraAR> cfhowlett: I actually run ubuntu in a virtual machine on my desktop, instead dual booting
[08:46] <loa> it is
[08:46] <Quoexl> and it will not let you do it?
[08:47] <SierraAR> But I'll give that  atry when the desktop's done throwing a fit xD
[08:47] <cfhowlett> SierraAR perfect.  install your DE's, logout, choose alternate DE, login and taste it
[08:47] <SierraAR> That's simple and easy
[08:47] <loa> Quoexl, it halts with that message. i seen this message earlier from sotware-center and i fixed it by changing sources.
[08:47] <cfhowlett> SierraAR indeed.  if you find you heavily prefer a specific DE, consider that flavor
[08:47] <loa> now, i don't kow what to do.
[08:48] <cfhowlett> !flavors| SierraAR
[08:48] <SierraAR> !mythbuntu
[08:49] <Quoexl> I could never get mythbuntu to work properly
[08:49] <SierraAR> Doesnt XBMC have a feature similar to what mythtv does?
[08:49] <Quoexl> 37 other servers but mythbuntu and LAPD kill me
[08:50] <cfhowlett> SierraAR believe so, but IIRC it's a tighter integration in mythbuntu ... other's would know more
[08:52] <Quoexl> make that LDAP
[08:52] <loa> Qasker, looks like i will be on ubuntu 13.10 for some time.
[08:53] <loa> when it eol?
[08:53] <cfhowlett> loa considering that 13.10 reaches end of life in a matter of weeks ...
[08:53] <loa> i hope not in 2014?
[08:53] <cfhowlett> !13.10
[08:53] <loa> lol
[08:53] <loa> can you help me then with that error?
[08:53] <bazhang> nine months isn't it
[08:54] <Quoexl> I can tell you the "NOT RECOMMENDED" way
[08:54] <cfhowlett> loa 9 months of support ...
[08:54] <Quoexl> but someone will kick me
[08:54] <cfhowlett> Quoexl take it to PM
[08:54] <loa> Quoexl, i just do update-manager update.
[08:55] <cfhowlett> loa wait.  stop messing with the -d variable.  when 14.04.1  comes out next month, do apt-get release-upgrade
[08:56] <loa> cfhowlett, but it said that new release ready without -d
[08:56] <cfhowlett> loa OR download the ISO and do a clean install
[08:57] <loa> cfhowlett, i will wait.
[08:57] <loa> i love current installation.
[09:00] <loa> so eol is in july, how long there will be downloadable packages for it?
[09:01] <cfhowlett> loa july ...
[09:01] <Quoexl> I'm still on 12.04 and the repos still work
[09:01] <cfhowlett> Quoexl as 12.04 has 5 years of Long Term Support
[09:01] <Quoexl> true
[09:01] <loa> Quoexl, it's eol in april 2017
[09:02] <Quoexl> lts is the only thing I'd put in production
[09:02] <loa> i am about how carefull i need to be about updating my system?
[09:02] <loa> i need to setup date for this in my calendar?
[09:02] <cfhowlett> Quoexl completely agree - production systems should be LTS
[09:03] <Quoexl> bleeding edge isnt the way to make a happy IT Manager
[09:03] <loa> what production?
[09:03] <loa> i am about home pc
[09:03] <cfhowlett> loa choose your poison.  For Long Term Support, 12.04 or 14.04.  download the ISO and install.
[09:03] <Quoexl> production means systems that arent experimental
[09:04] <rorre> Hello from Brazil
[09:04] <Quoexl> Hola
[09:04] <ObrienDave> greetings
[09:04] <cfhowlett> loa if you NEED the latest/greatest/shiny stuff and don't mind tweaking your system, install every version as it is published.  otherwise, go with LTS only.  WAY fewer headaches.
[09:04] <Quoexl> !ask
[09:05] <cfhowlett> !brazil|Quoexl
[09:05] <Quoexl> nada, englais
[09:05] <rorre> anyone know an app i can watch processor's temperature?
[09:05] <cfhowlett> !info lm-sensors
[09:06] <Quoexl> sudo apt-get install lm-sensors
[09:06] <Quoexl> sorry, I'm slow
[09:06] <loa> psensor
[09:06] <rorre> thank you
[09:06] <loa> unity friendly stuff
[09:06] <Quoexl> imho unity is NOT friendly
[09:07] <gry> heh
[09:07] <gry> it is to some
[09:07] <SierraAR> OHai gry
[09:07] <Quoexl> its teh debbil
[09:07] <gry> hi
[09:07] <lgp171188> Hi, I know that with the advent of mult-arch, 'ia32-libs' package is gone. I know I can install i386 versions of those packages. But how do I know which packages?
[09:07] <gry> don't stop them from liking it then, Quoexl
[09:07] <Quoexl> fair enough
[09:11] <funkyHat> lgp171188: "which packages" for what? The point is you install the same library packages from the i386 repo as you would if you were installing the same software on a native i386 system.
[09:12] <lgp171188> funkyHat, my question is what packages did the 'ia32-libs' metapackage install? If I know that I can install the same using the :i386 qualifier.
[09:13] <funkyHat> lgp171188: it installed many many libraries, most of which are not needed by specific individual i386 software. Why do you want to install all of them?
[09:13] <oaulakh> do we have any android apps player in ubuntu?
[09:14] <lastarms> oaulakh: you mean bluestack?
[09:14] <ObrienDave> you mean like an Android emulator?
[09:14] <cfhowlett> oaulakh the official android SDK
[09:15] <lgp171188> funkyHat, Because I am debugging an issue where a software that used to run on 12.04 no longer runs with 13.10 and has a dependency on ia32-libs. At this moment, I am not sure of what exactly are the dependencies, so I want to see installing all those packages to see if it works.
[09:15] <oaulakh> yeah right
[09:15] <oaulakh> but for linux
[09:15] <oaulakh> not through wine or something
[09:15] <ObrienDave> eclipse is the development environment
[09:15] <oaulakh> means?
[09:16] <Quoexl> so you propose slinging excrement at the wall to see what sticks?
[09:16] <cfhowlett> oaulakh the android SDK runs on linux
[09:16] <cfhowlett> as well as windows, OSX
[09:17] <cfhowlett> ask #android
[09:17] <Quoexl> android = linux OSX = FreeBSD...linux
[09:17] <ObrienDave> http://developer.android.com
[09:18] <oaulakh> can we install apps in sdk?
[09:18] <gry> an emulator is meaningless without ability to install apps imo
[09:18] <ObrienDave> not sure on that
[09:18] <cfhowlett> oaulakh this is ubuntu.  for android support, go ask #android        !!!!
[09:18] <gry> cfhowlett, patience sir :) it is a linux software, they just support their os
[09:18] <Quoexl> I have jellybean in a virtualbox, its bad with no touch screen
[09:18] <cfhowlett> oaulakh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_SDK#SDK
[09:19] <oaulakh> i just want to know about player
[09:19] <oaulakh> you throw me in sdk conversation
[09:19] <ObrienDave> then go ask #android
[09:19] <Ben64> ok then, the short answer is "no" you cannot run android apps in ubuntu
[09:19] <gry> did you not hear me, ObrienDave?
[09:20] <Ben64> gry: it is not on topic here
[09:20] <bazhang> gry , it's not on topic here
[09:20] <oaulakh> hahhahaha
[09:20] <gry> that's weird - I suspect it's not ontopic there either so I'm not sure where he'll head now
[09:20] <oaulakh> okkk
[09:20] <oaulakh> then where should i go now?
[09:20] <oaulakh> to #android?
[09:21] <bazhang> !alis | oaulakh
[09:21] <histo> oaulakh: you can run android apps if you install the sdk with the mulator
[09:21] <gry> oaulakh, /msg'ed
[09:21] <Quoexl> you can get android 4.2.2 to install in a virtualbox
[09:22] <hackvictim> anyone else have an idea? i struggle as victim of a (wannabe) but can't explain the vulnerability he's using, he can gain root access, no external services running besids ssh, varnish and nginx. already run rkhunter, nothing found - previous conversation in here: http://hastebin.com/ovovutodun
[09:22] <Ben64> hackvictim: format and reinstall, only way to be sure
[09:22] <oaulakh> dthanks guys
[09:22] <Quoexl> nuke them from orbit...
[09:22] <oaulakh> i will search it myself
[09:22] <oaulakh> :)
[09:23] <funkyHat> lgp171188: ok. Here is the list of dependencies in the 13.04 version of ia32-libs(-multiarch): http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/ia32-libs-multiarch but if you're upgraded from a version of ubuntu where it worked and it now doesn't then I wouldn't be too hopeful that installing that stuff will work
[09:23] <Quoexl> you could set up a honey pot and get him fornicated
[09:23] <Like2HlpU-Laptop> first try not advertising what a noob u are
[09:23] <hackvictim> hmm, i actually thought i could prevent that
[09:23] <bazhang> Quoexl, thats enough
[09:23] <Quoexl> get iptables into the game, block all incoming transactions
[09:24] <bazhang> Quoexl, no more running commentary and chat please
[09:24] <Quoexl> ok I'll shut up
[09:24] <Quoexl> only ontopic for me
[09:24] <cfhowlett> hackvictim look for penetration testing forums/channels
[09:24] <hackvictim> cfhowlett: okay, thank you... is here perhaps an irc channel in freenode for this?
[09:24] <cfhowlett> !list
[09:25] <cfhowlett> !alis
[09:25] <hackvictim> Quoexl: honey pot might be a good idea
[09:25] <cfhowlett> hackvictim !alis is the command for searching
[09:25] <hackvictim> searching what?
[09:25] <hackvictim> oh
[09:25] <hackvictim> :D
[09:25] <hackvictim> thank you
[09:25] <histo> hackvictim: I doubt he gained access
[09:25] <hackvictim> but he can read me files, which are in a root directory
[09:25] <hackvictim> :/
[09:26] <hackvictim> but i somehow doubt he "knows or wrote that exploit and just doenst release it because noone else has it" either
[09:26] <Quoexl> hackvictim: answer that ping
[09:26] <arcsky> if a startup script in /etc/init.d/ doesnt start on boot how can i make it autostart ?
[09:27] <Like2HlpU-Laptop> in debian?
[09:27] <hackvictim> um how?
[09:28] <Like2HlpU-Laptop> i dunno
[09:28] <Quoexl> on the left side it says chat Quoexl
[09:28] <Like2HlpU-Laptop> oh
[09:28] <hackvictim> Quoexl: im using webirc (qwebirc) at the moment
[09:28] <histo> arcsky: update-rc.d somescript defaults
[09:28] <Quoexl> well crud
[09:29] <histo> hackvictim: it's along the top
[09:29] <lastarms> Anyone know how to fix the add-apt-repo problem on 12.04 ?
[09:29] <hackvictim> no problem
[09:29] <hackvictim> Quoexl: i get a native client
[09:29] <hackvictim> just a sec
[09:29] <histo> !details | lastarms
[09:29] <histo> hackvictim: look along the top you will see a tab with his name
[09:30] <hackvictim> no tab
[09:30] <lastarms> histo: it's a well known bug in python. The patch has been released for 13.10 but seems like it was never released for 12.04
[09:30] <hackvictim> just that msg: requested CTCP DCC from hackvictim: CHAT chat XXXXXXXXXX XXXX
[09:30] <Quoexl> hackvictim: /join #ubchat
[09:30] <lastarms> histo: the problem is that add-apt-repo will fail due to a python script problem
[09:30] <hackvictim> let me switch to native irc first
[09:30] <hackvictim> :)
[09:30] <lastarms> histo: I was hoping someone here who uses 12.04 for their server will know how to use the patch that someone uploaded on ubuntu bugs
[09:31] <cfhowlett> lastarms ask in the #ubuntu-server channel
[09:31] <lastarms> cfhowlett: didn't know that channel exist. thanx
[09:31] <cfhowlett> lastarms happy2help
[09:32] <hackvitcim_> hi
[09:32] <Like2HlpU-Laptop> oh wb
[09:32] <cfhowlett> hackvitcim_ ubuchat this ain't
[09:47] <histo> hackvitcim_: do you have password based logins enabled for ssh ?
[09:48] <wget> Hi guys. Reminder: I'm a developer and ArchLinux user. Yesterday I installed Ubuntu on my neighbour's laptop (he was previously running ArchLinux too). I've 2 questions:
[09:48] <wget> 1. Since I'm accustomed to use Debian but not Ubuntu. I wanted to know if it was stable enough to make an apt-get dist-upgrade instead of a simple apt-get upgrade on Ubuntu. I assume Ubuntu is slim to don't miss with dependencies? Indeed, after I did that Ubuntu installed me 3.13.0.29, then .24, and reinstalled .29. --> Weird behavior.
[09:48] <wget> 2. I had a crash once and I've dialog "Please report errors to Canonical". I dismissed it, but it appears again at each reboot. Any idea how to get rid of that?
[09:49] <gry> for 2, click 'details' in that dialog and see what details it gives
[09:50] <gry> for 1, 'man apt-get' describes this functionality in a separate paragraph and while it's safe, it doesnt appear to be intended for regular use instead of simple upgrade
[09:51] <ObrienDave> i always use dist-upgrade
[09:51] <gry> !dist-upgrade
[09:51] <gry> this tells some more
[09:52] <gry> they serve different purpose
[09:53] <Vooloo> is there a server manager or something else that can notify me of updates/do the updates when ubuntu needs to upgrade etc. I can't keep logging into multiple servers to check this stuff manually.
[09:54] <gry> Vooloo, see https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/automatic-updates.html and please keep an eye on it, check root mail or something just in case
[09:54] <gry> well its 10.04, i should find something similar for new
[09:55] <gry> yea https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/automatic-updates.html exists
[09:57] <blinking> quick question - how to I create a command that I can use with an option, like ./mycommand dothis
[09:59] <mashu> blinking, in python?
[09:59] <blinking> mashu, command line
[10:00] <blinking> just trying to create a script that I can run that will do a few things depending on what option you want
[10:01] <mashu> um ... in the script i think you refer to the arguments as
[10:01] <mashu> $1
[10:01] <mashu> $2
[10:01] <mashu> $3
[10:01] <mashu> depending on the position of the argument
[10:02] <mashu> blinking,
[10:02] <mashu> blinking, that help?
[10:03] <blinking> mashu, not really. I'm using a case statement and it's just not getting the input
[10:03] <mashu> are u using the linux command line?
[10:03] <Ben64> probably would be more appropriate in #bash
[10:03] <blinking> yes
[10:04] <blinking> let me do a quick pastebin
[10:04] <blinking> mashu, Ben64 - pastebin.com/qwCjXwfw
[10:04] <blinking> thats what i'm doing. But its not getting my input
[10:05] <Ben64> yeah, probably best to ask in #bash
[10:05] <kconsul> What is the apt-get command to install skype on ubuntu ?
[10:05] <blinking> ok i'll head over
[10:06] <mashu> blinking, ill link you to something ...
[10:06] <mashu> blinking, hopefully it helps
[10:06] <mashu> blinking, http://it-ebooks.info/book/967/
[10:06] <mashu> blinking, download it and go to page 207
[10:06] <histo> Ben64: he's trying to write an init script to start utorrent server if I remember corrrectly
[10:07] <kconsul> ?
[10:07] <histo> !info skype
[10:07] <gry> it is kidding
[10:07] <histo> !skype | kconsul
[10:08] <kconsul> thank you.
[10:08] <gry> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype "Since Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid Lynx), Skype is part of the Canonical partner repository. "
[10:08] <histo> blinking: I've found other utorrent server startup scripts when I was googling
[10:08] <histo> blinking: http://pastebin.com/UE3kDg00
[10:21] <ilya> is there a status page for apt repos?
[10:22] <errordeveloper> we are seeing some weird segfaults with apt-get update
[10:22] <errordeveloper> removing the chache files doesn't help
[10:22] <errordeveloper> wondering if it's an issue with archive.ubuntu.com...
[10:24] <gry> what error does it say
[10:27] <errordeveloper> gry: just a segfault
[10:27] <Artpicre> Is there some people using Chromium here ?
[10:28] <Artpicre> My problem is that I have the option to save where I was before closing Chromium
[10:29] <Artpicre> All pages that I opened before should re-open next time I open chromium
[10:29] <Artpicre> But the problem is that onlye some of the tabs reopen, and the others are lost
[10:31] <gry> errordeveloper, i sorta cant say anything, if a binary segfaults i would only compile it with -g flag
[10:32] <Wug> errordeveloper: you mean apt-get is segment faulting?
[10:33] <gry> yes
[10:33] <gry> when he does update
[10:33] <Wug> that sounds horrible
[10:33] <Wug> try wgetting the package for apt-get and using dpkg to reinstall it
[10:33] <gry> yes, and then i would run a memtest
[10:34] <Wug> and also a fsck
[10:34] <gry> if both give no result then manually compile
[10:34] <Wug> I'd personally sacrifice the computer and 12 goats to an ebony funeral pyre, so as to prevent its terrible disease from spreading
[10:35] <Wug> but your mileage may vary with that approach
[10:40] <ssyntek> hi all
[10:40] <ssyntek> anyone on here that knows anything about the kernel? in ubuntu?
[10:40] <adm001> hey all
[10:40] <histo> ssyntek: it's sorcery
[10:40] <gry> ssyntek, what is the real question
[10:40] <gry> please :)
[10:40] <adm001> someone help me out with i386 dependencies on a x86_64 ubuntu install?
[10:40] <gry> yes?
[10:41] <ssyntek> i wanted to know if the linux generic kernel is able to be installed with out modification into any linux distro
[10:41] <adm001> I have a fresh install on a x86_64 computer... and when trying install tightvncserver, apt starts about i386 missing dependencies which I can't install...
[10:42] <motaka2> how can I understand where I have installed netbeans ?
[10:43] <adm001> anyone?
[10:43] <adm001> join #xubuntu
[10:44] <lastarms> adm001: try installting tight for x64?
[10:44] <thomaspr> Anyone heard about problems with the latest lucid updates ?
[10:44] <adm001> lastarms... actually I get the problem with everything I try to install... even x11vnc...
[10:45] <ssyntek> does anybody know the answer to my question?
[10:45] <Ben64> adm001: pastebin the error
[10:45] <DigitalACAnalogD> Hi guys, my laptop doesn't seem to detect my CD-ROM drive. How do I check if the relevant drivers are installed?
[10:45] <motaka2> How can Understand where I have installed a software in ubuntu ?
[10:45] <lastarms> adm001: unlike windows, 32bit application will not work with 64 bit
[10:45] <lastarms> adm001: since you now have 64bit OS, you need to look for and install 64 bit software
[10:45] <Ben64> ssyntek: thats not really an ubuntu support question
[10:46] <DigitalACAnalogD> motaka2 - check /usr/bin
[10:46] <lastarms> adm001: try doing sudo apt-get install tightvnc or something
[10:46] <motaka2> DigitalACAnalogD: I have intalled netbeans, I dont know where, now I want to delete it I dont know where the uninstall file is , I used .sh installer
[10:47] <DigitalACAnalogD> motaka2 - a .sh installer is a shell script.. if you know what you're doing, you can simply remove all the files and directoris created by the shell script
[10:48] <adm001> lastarms http://paste.ubuntu.com/7622891/
[10:48] <motaka2> DigitalACAnalogD: but right now I really cant remebr where I installed netbeans8, it's icon is on sidebar but I dont know where i istalled it
[10:49] <thomaspr> Doesn't "netbeans" come via universe anyway ?
[10:49] <Ben64> adm001: why are you trying to install the 32 bit version of that?
[10:49] <adm001> lastarms I came from a not clean ubuntu install... and because it's the companies server... it's had be redone... it all worked on the none-clean install... and now it just doesn't...
[10:49] <motaka2> thomaspr: I didnt use universe i downloaded it from netbeans.org
[10:49] <adm001> Ben64: the thing is... I'm not...
[10:50] <Ben64> you are. look at what you pasted. "tightvncserver:i386"
[10:50] <DigitalACAnalogD> motaka2 - it'll most likely be in /usr/bin . I suggest you uninstall it via a package manager, or another piece of software. Alternatively, like I said, open the .sh file in gedit, and replace the mk/cpy commands with the rm/rmdir commands.
[10:50] <lastarms> adm001: try this command  sudo apt-get install tightvncserver
[10:50] <blinking> whats the best way to add something to start up? update-rc.d myscript defaults 100 ??
[10:50] <lastarms> blinking: cron
[10:50] <adm001> Ben64 & lastarms... I did type apt-get install tightvncserver...
[10:50] <adm001> that's the whole problem...
[10:51] <motaka2> DigitalACAnalogD: common man.
[10:51] <lastarms> adm001: hrmmm...
[10:51] <jj-> helloo helloo i have windows 7 installed and i see there is a windows boot manager boot device in bios. will it still exist when i isntall ubuntu or what happens?
[10:52] <jj-> i don't want to see the grub boot screen if the installation fails
[10:52] <adm001> lastarms: I know... it got me scratching my head too... I know my way around Linux and all now after quite some years but this thing is new...
[10:52] <jj-> would be convenient to boot directly to the windows boot manager
[10:52] <jj-> how does it work nowadatys
[10:52] <DigitalACAnalogD> motaka2 - No. YOU come on man. It took me <1s to find this on Google: http://askubuntu.com/questions/76908/how-to-uninstall-netbeans
[10:52] <Ben64> adm001: pastebin "sudo apt-get update"
[10:52] <lastarms> adm001: apt-get is grabbing 32bit files...
[10:53] <adm001> lastarms: I figured...
[10:53] <jj-> man i swear it's so zz with the new power saving stuff and 3g modem sticks what the fuck ever they are called
[10:53] <jj-> ubuntu back to 2008 or something
[10:54] <adm001> Ben64 http://paste.ubuntu.com/7622933/
[10:54] <ssyntek> Ben64 where do i go then to find this answer?
[10:54] <Ben64> jj-: watch the language in this channel please
[10:54] <jj-> :-(
[10:55] <ssyntek> Ben64 where do i go to find the answer?
[10:55] <lastarms> adm001: your sources.list file seems corrupt
[10:55] <ObrienDave> adm001, do you REALLY need ia32-libs?
[10:55] <adm001> lastarms: so much for a clean install...
[10:55] <ssyntek> sorry delayed post and i reposted as i thought it didnt go through my bad
[10:56] <adm001> ObrienDave: honestly I don't know... it worked on the earlier install.,. without it
[10:56] <adm001> pastebin?
[10:56] <lastarms> adm001: haha, I've never seen i386 sources on an amd64 install
[10:56] <Ben64> lastarms: no thats fine
[10:56] <ObrienDave> ok, if you do, i'll tell you how to install, but the mods will get angry ;P
[10:57] <Ben64> ObrienDave: don't do it, thats not the problem here
[10:57] <adm001> so how can I fix this without reinstalling...
[10:57] <Sm21> hello i have a question
[10:57] <Sm21> WTF is unity? its crap
[10:57] <motaka2> I hate JDK
[10:57] <motaka2> it was alway troublesome
[10:57] <Ben64> adm001: i'm looking for an answer for you
[10:57] <jj-> Sm21: cmon man it's alright
[10:58] <trash> hi, what is the prefered way to install ubuntu-12 in a unatanted way like kickstart in centos without having a huge framework with dependancy services configured?
[10:58] <adm001> kk Ben64 thx
[10:58] <Ben64> Sm21: do you have a support question? this channel is not for rants
[10:58] <Sm21> its alright if your a fanboy
[10:58] <Sm21> sorry ill stop
[10:58] <jj-> nah it's alright for productivity and doesn't have too many annoyances
[10:59] <adm001> Sm21 I think everyone used whatever he/she likes... and that's a good... if we'd all be using the same it'll get boring..
[10:59] <Quoexl> ok boys and girls, I got a chinese hacker knocking on my ssh
[10:59] <Quoexl> any help?
[11:00] <Sm21> Yes, Quoexl just remember their driving my be poor
[11:00] <Quoexl> he's trying to use john on my 26 digit ssh password
[11:00] <adm001> lol
[11:00] <ObrienDave> ben64, hence the "mods will get angry" disclamer ;)
[11:00] <loa> Quoexl, give him some rise.
[11:01] <Quoexl> I'm thinking of locking him in a busybox
[11:01] <Ben64> ObrienDave: no.. it won't help
[11:01] <loa> sandbox you mean)
[11:01] <adm001> Quoexl I'd say, give it a go
[11:01] <Sm21> ping him
[11:01] <loa> honeypot
[11:01] <Sm21> or give him a net send
[11:01] <Quoexl> no, busybox locked off from the real OS
[11:01] <Sm21> that is what mark shuttleworth would do
[11:01] <Quoexl> you know, fakeroot etc
[11:02] <loa> Quoexl, busybox it is just alternative for bash tools.
[11:02] <loa> lightweight alternative.
[11:02] <popey> Sm21: keep your ramblings to other channels, this is a support channel
[11:02] <ssyntek> Quoexl can i ask a silly question how do you know hes there ?
[11:02] <Ben64> please stay on topic
[11:02] <ssyntek> just so i can learn  :)
[11:02] <Ben64> adm001: what does "dpkg --print-architecture" say
[11:03] <adm001> Ben64 amd64
[11:03] <gaingg_> Hi all
[11:04] <gaingg_> Can i start text mode installation from a desktop installation cd?
[11:04] <Quoexl> failed password for root from 60.173.11.143 over and over and over
[11:04] <popey> gaingg_: no
[11:04] <Quoexl> in auth.log
[11:04] <loa> Quoexl, install sshguard
[11:04] <loa> or failtoban
[11:05] <gaingg_> Popey: thanks
[11:05] <histo> gaingg_: no you ahve to use net install iso or the server iso
[11:05] <Quoexl> thanks and what kind of configuration shall I do?
[11:05] <Quoexl> I know jfgi
[11:05] <adm001> Quoexl: how can you be sure if he's in china? If he/she is a true hacker... proxy's...
[11:06] <Quoexl> because a true hacker would rotate proxies and I was in a chat room with this schmuck and its the same IP
[11:06] <dimm> hello, All!
[11:06] <jj-> i see there is a windows boot manager in boot devices. if ubuntu installation fails can i directly boot to it without seeing the damned grub boot screen?
[11:06] <Ben64> adm001: try "sudo apt-get install tightvncserver:amd64"
[11:07] <dimm> what it can be?   i kill process via 'kill -9' but it respawn after one second with new pid
[11:07] <adm001> Ben64: he cannot find the pacakage
[11:07] <gaingg_> Kthxbai
[11:07] <Quoexl> and I geolocated him then, and again now, same university that he told me he was attending
[11:07] <histo> dimm: it's set to respawn
[11:07] <Ben64> adm001: well that's a problem
[11:07] <histo> dimm: what are you trying to kill?
[11:07] <loa> dimm, depends on what proccess you trying to kill)
[11:07] <adm001> I though so too...
[11:07] <dimm> histo: where i can found this setting?
[11:07] <adm001> *thought
[11:07] <loa> their can be upstart job, which respawn proccess.
[11:08] <dimm> loa: i see this with zabbix_server, and mysqld
[11:08] <loa> that't right for them.
[11:08] <histo> dimm: try sudo stop mysqld
[11:08] <Ben64> adm001: so it seems it's trying to install the 32bit version because it can't find the 64 one, but you have the repositories enabled so i'm not sure where to go from here. maybe rebuild your sources using a different mirror? or the main ubuntu one?
[11:08] <adm001> Ben64: let's give it a go..
[11:09] <histo> dimm: also try stop zabbi<tab>  key to auto complete
[11:09] <Ben64> adm001: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ to make a new sources.list
[11:12] <adm001> Ben64 updating the sources.list...
[11:12] <adm001> Ben64 still a no go...
[11:13] <Ben64> you may need universe or multiverse to get it
[11:13] <adm001> it's added
[11:13] <Ben64> did you try the united states mirror?
[11:13] <Sm21> Has anyone heard of lorde?
[11:13] <Ben64> and you need to "sudo apt-get update" for it to take effect
[11:13] <Ben64> Sm21: off topic
[11:13] <adm001> ben64 did the update thing
[11:13] <motaka2> Can anyone please download netbeans8 with jdk and put it on dropbox so I can download it ?
[11:13] <flux242> hi, does someone know why bluetooth (ath3k, btusb) modules are started? I can't seem to able to find any service record responsible for loading of these modules
[11:15] <histo> motaka2: is there a problem with apt-get install netbeans ?
[11:15] <motaka2> histo: It is closed to my country. And all the proxies I use disconnect on mid way
[11:15] <histo> flux242: ath3k sounds like a atheros library and bt is for bluetooth
[11:15] <adm001> Ben64... I tried the UK repositories and they're working
[11:16] <Ben64> adm001: interesting
[11:16] <adm001> Ben64: thk u very much!
[11:16] <histo> motaka2: change your universe mirror to like us.archive.ubuntu.com
[11:16] <flux242> histo: I know what these libraries are, the question is what loads them?
[11:16] <histo> flux242: when the hardware gets detected
[11:17] <motaka2> histo: I did it is the same
[11:17] <dimm> histo, loa ,    is 'stop' it is command for stop jobs which can be showed via 'jobs' command?
[11:17] <histo> dimm: what?
[11:17] <histo> dimm: no it's for initctl
[11:18] <flux242> histo: ok, then the question is - is there a cleaner way to skip loading these modules beside blacklisting them?
[11:18] <histo> flux242: Do you want them to load later in the boot process or not at all?
[11:19] <dimm> histo: thank you for information
[11:19] <flux242> histo: If I need a bt it should be possible to activate it on demand without restarting
[11:19] <histo> flux242: you could modprobe btusb
[11:19] <etronik> rehi all
[11:19] <histo> flux242: the same for ath3k
[11:20] <flux242> ok
[11:21] <histo> flux242: is there a reason you want them gone?
[11:21] <flux242> power saving
[11:21] <flux242> to many wakeups
[11:21] <adm001> Ben64: thx, now I can continue getting it back in the air...
[11:21] <histo> flux242: ahh
[11:21] <etronik> I have created a user account for a /home/user folder that was already there from a previous install of Ubuntu, but when  I attempt to login the screen blanks/flickers and I get thrown back to login screen (GDM right?) - how can I reset video propertiers for that user ?
[11:21] <Ben64> adm001: no problem
[11:21] <histo> flux242: yeah just blacklist them modprobe if you need them loaded
[11:22] <etronik> That prior user was running video at a higher resolution and with native Nvidia driver - which is not the case in current install... so I need probably to get his config back to basics
[11:22] <histo> etronik: they shouldn't be set per user. Perhaps something is trying to autostart like from .xinitrc or .config/...autostart etc... that is causing you desktop environment to crash
[11:23] <etronik> histo: yeah might be that...
[11:23] <etronik> will strat by .xinit
[11:24] <tolearn> hi everyone
[11:24] <YamakasY> anyone experience with autocomplete bash with ldap login ? I don't have autocomplete :S
[11:24] <histo> YamakasY: install bash-completion
[11:25] <YamakasY> histo: isn't that default ?
[11:25] <YamakasY> histo: for root it works on the machine
[11:25] <etronik> I have a lot of stuff under .config/ - short of zapping the whole thing, whats the best way to get it temporarily to a basic config ?
[11:25] <histo> YamakasY: who does it not work for and where?
[11:25] <YamakasY> histo: for a user that logs in using ldap auth
[11:26] <YamakasY> histo: it has a homefolder but is no local user
[11:26] <histo> etronik: pretty much zapping the hidden directories are the only way. you could look in /etc/skel/  and see what's supposed to be there.
[11:26] <histo> YamakasY: try asking in #ubuntu-server
[11:27] <Signorombra> hi
[11:27] <etronik> can I just mv .config to .config_old  ?? will ubuntu create a new .config ?
[11:27] <etronik> can I just mv .config to .config_old  ?? will ubuntu create a new .config/ ?
[11:27] <histo> YamakasY: i'd imagine it's something with their environment not being setup properly but those guys may know the exact problem.
[11:27] <histo> etronik: yes
[11:27] <cfhowlett> etronik rename, reboot and yes
[11:27] <etronik> thanks will try
[11:29] <YamakasY> histo: those guys ? I't my server :D
[11:29] <YamakasY> *it's :)
 i have a problem on xubuntu that when i go on terminal it says it is untrusted
[11:29] <usekkk> Does anyone know of a good crawler for archiving webpages?
[11:30] <ObrienDave> google?
[11:30] <usekkk> Something like https://www.npmjs.org/package/upstage
[11:30] <YamakasY> histo: so, what do I need to check ? I have a .bashrc for that user
[11:31] <ssyntek> hi im a bit stuck removing nvidia drivers from ubuntu 14.04
[11:31] <Signorombra> hi
[11:31] <ssyntek> when i type purge nvidia* says there are no packages to upgrade install or remove
[11:32] <Signorombra> i have a problem with opening stuff
[11:32] <etronik> histo: after renaming .config/ still flickers and cannot login to the session, I also removed older .Xauthority
[11:32] <etronik> histo: what else should I look for besides .config/
[11:32] <etronik> histo: what else should I look for besides .config/  ? TIA
[11:32] <histo> usekkk: wget
[11:33] <Signorombra> what happened was that i open something up and it opens up loads of the same window
[11:33] <usekkk> histo: wget goes too deep for me. I want to download all images/css/js that are in use on one page and thats it
[11:33] <Signorombra> it says it is untrusted
[11:34] <histo> etronik: any .?? directories
[11:35] <histo> etronik: find ~ -maxdepth 1 -type d -name '.*'
[11:37] <user4124> Does trustys calendar integrate with evolution calendar? top bar
[11:37] <etronik> histo: .dbus .cache .compiz .mozilla .local .gconf .config  (I wonder about the last one)
[11:38] <jj-> usekkk: don't use -r in wget?
[11:38] <jj-> wget is perfectly good for it
[11:38] <usekkk> jj-: without -r it doesn't download any images
[11:38] <jj-> usekkk: see --page-requisites
[11:39] <jj-> or -p if you will
[11:39] <jj-> anyways wget can do it np you just have to use correct opts
[11:39] <wget> usekkk: Maybe ask on #wget would be a better solution than asking here.
[11:40] <jj-> man wget is the right solution alongside with -p
[11:40] <user4124> how to get Unity integrated with ownCloud?
[11:40] <usekkk> jj-: alright, thanks, I'll give it a go
[11:40] <usekkk> wget: I'll check #wget out
[11:41] <wget> usekkk: Thanks, otherwise I'm getting always notifications because you're speaking about wget ;-)
[11:41] <etronik> histo: and I wonder why your commend did not catch .xchat or .vuescan
[11:41] <thomaspr> Kernel specialists inside ?
[11:42] <etronik> just as examples
[11:42] <histo> etronik: because they are files not directories
[11:43] <thomaspr> Any known problems with the latest kernels for lucid ?
[11:43] <cfhowlett> |!lucithomaspr
[11:43] <cfhowlett> !lucid
[11:43] <cfhowlett> thomaspr if you're on desktop you are completely unsupported and end of life
[11:44] <thomaspr> It's a server, but my question's about the GUI
[11:44] <cfhowlett> thomaspr gui?  server?  huh?
[11:44] <cfhowlett> !server|thomaspr
[11:45] <thomaspr> It's our oldest one, but still needed :-|
[11:45] <thomaspr> Time by time colleagues want to log in tty7
[11:46] <thomaspr> Since latest upgrades, the whole window management seems defunct :-( ???
[11:47] <thomaspr> Noone running lucid anymore ?
[11:48] <lamrz> hello, I created a dd image of a hard drive. therefore is it ok to keep using the hard drive now ( I need disk space), being sure of that I will not lose its dd image or it will not be distorted in any way (unless, of course, the hardware on which it is saved fails) ?
[11:49] <lamrz> I mean whether the dd image will not be distorted in any way
[11:49] <Quoexl> theoretically it should be fine
[11:49] <Quoexl> unless theres a tsunami or house fire
[11:50] <lamrz> Quoexl, I see..so statistically the dd images are reliably durable, then.
[11:50] <motasem> barr7awi
[11:51] <humbag> you image the drive from a live distro? lamrz
[11:53] <glambert> any way of getting package information prior to apt-get install?
[11:53] <cfhowlett> glambert apt-cache search packagename or apt-cache policy packagename   will give you some feedback
[12:01] <Steelpan> #glambert: `apt-cache show <package>` will also give you useful info
[12:01] <glambert> Steelpan, perfect, thanks!   thanks cfhowlett
[12:02] <cfhowlett> glambert happy2help
[12:02] <wget> (11:51:47 AM) gry: !dist-upgrade
[12:02] <wget> I know the difference between dist-upgrade and a simple upgrade, that's not the question. The question is updating this way stable on Ubuntu?
[12:02] <wget> e.g. if unity relies on a lib 1.X and I've an app that relies on that same lib. An update is available for that app. The new version require version 2.X of that lib + another one. An apt-get upgrade won't update that app because it has a new dependency. If I do a dist-upgrade my app will be upgraded and the lib will be upgraded to 2.X and the other dependency will be installed. All these upgrades could break unity dependencies and Ubuntu will complain.
[12:02] <wget> ObrienDave: ^
[12:03] <ObrienDave> i always use dist-upgrade
[12:03] <wget> ObrienDave: No problem on your side?
[12:03] <ObrienDave> nope, i run Xubuntu
[12:04] <wget> ObrienDave: Ok. :D My neightbour uses Ubuntu (Unity version)
[12:04] <lamrz> Quoexl, humbag, I was disconnected, sorry if you posted for me meanwhile..
[12:05] <lamrz> humbag, I'd imaged it from live distro, yes
[12:05] <histo> lamrz: a dd image is a bit by bit copy of whatever you fed to it.  So if you gave it your hd like if=/dev/sda  then it's a copy of everything on that drive including the partitioning, free space, slack etc...  if you did if=/dev/sda1  then you just copied partition 1
[12:05] <Quoexl> nope didnt say a word
[12:05] <lamrz> histo, I was wondering if I start reusing the original drive again, trusting that I have its image now. the reason being that I need disk space
[12:06] <lamrz> if I can* start
[12:07] <philinux> wget;~ since a while back ubuntu puts out updates in a phased way via software updater. This is to prevent borking all users if something really gets messed up. i'll try to find a linky
[12:07] <histo> lamrz: if you are really concerned you could compute a hash of the drive compared to the dd image and see that they match
[12:09] <wget> philinux: Then updating via CLI isn't recommended then? I don't know if Software Updater is still using apt-get.
[12:09] <philinux> wget;~ this was the rational https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PhasedUpdates
[12:09] <histo> wget: you can update via cli
[12:09] <philinux> wget;~ http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/08/phased-updates-to-start-rolling-out-for-ubuntu-13-04
[12:09] <ObrienDave> wget, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:10] <lamrz> histo, I trust that they match, it is not my concern. I'd more like to know if I can trust dd image's durability, that is, whether it stays intact throughout a possibly long recovery operation. in other words, whether if I can safely resume using the original drive.
[12:10] <philinux> wget;~ do a net search for ubuntu phased updates
[12:10] <Quoexl> !works for me
[12:10] <histo> lamrz: to answer your question yes it's safe... However in the work I do we create hashes and verify.
[12:11] <Quoexl> trust, but verify
[12:11] <lamrz> histo, thank you! I can also do the hash verification, but never did it before. could you maybe have a link for it?
[12:12] <philinux> wget;~ you will notice now that if you say run software updater there maybe no updates offered. But if you run the cli commands there are updates.
[12:12] <philinux> this is phased updates at work
[12:12] <histo> lamrz: have you since booted the drive after running the dd?
[12:12] <lamrz> histo, yes
[12:12] <histo> lamrz: then hashes won't match
[12:13] <Wr3x> Is it best to use X.Org.X open source drivers provided by Ubuntu  for ATI cards vs proprietary drivers?
[12:13] <histo> lamrz: if 1 bit on the drive changes they will miss match
[12:13] <rymate1234> is there a way to use xrdp with x11vnc?
[12:13] <neutralizer> is there a portable system analysis app for ubuntu which can run under "Try Ubuntu" (the option you get when you boot from USB)? I need it to check laptop battery charge/discharge rate plus for HDD read/write speeds etc
[12:13] <lamrz> histo..ok, I think there shouldnt be a mismatch..
[12:13] <histo> rymate1234: you mean use xrdp instead of x11vnc?
[12:13] <Quoexl> rymate1234: see the rdp, not xvnc?
[12:13] <histo> lamrz: hopefully not
[12:14] <wget> philinux: Ok, as I said, I'm a dev and ArchLinux user, I won't use Ubuntu by myself. So couldn't say when updates will be offered to the user. Personally, what I saw, I dist-upgraded the machine after first install and rebooted. After the reboot, the software manager was proposing me updates I've had already installed.
[12:14] <lamrz> histo, thank you! I was also trying to find the exiftool command to delete image metadata, might you have this command?
[12:14] <wget> philinux: The phased out technique could explain why.
[12:14] <philinux> wget;~ exactly
[12:15] <philinux> wget;~ if you'd gone ahead with the updater it would have checked again and it would have seen that you installed stuff already
[12:16] <philinux> wget;~ for a novice user I'd stick with software updater
[12:16] <wget> philinux: So for now, if the user wants to use Software Center (and he will, since he isn't tech savvy), I won't use dist-upgrade the machine.
[12:16] <wget> philinux: Your asumption is only right if the app is already launched. The notification "new updates are available" doesn't check again, according to my tests.
[12:16] <neutralizer> "is there a portable system analysis app for ubuntu which can run under "Try Ubuntu" (the option you get when you boot from USB)? I need it to check laptop battery charge/discharge rate plus for HDD read/write speeds etc" and also shows how battery is comparison to new battery and how HDD is in comparison to new HDD.
[12:17] <bluenemo> hi guys. i'm on 14.04 and searching for the tun.ko module to run some vpn.. cant find it somehow. any hints if it has a new name now or sth?
[12:17] <philinux> wget;~ if you're at the machine then dist-upgrade fine as you can reboot and check if all ok and if not fix it for them
[12:17] <histo> lamrz: looks like exiv2 could do it
[12:17] <lamrz> could you please help me know the exiftool command to delete image metadata?
[12:18] <lamrz> histo, I'd used exiftool before, haven't heard of exiv2 yet, will check the web
[12:18] <histo> lamrz: did you try exiftool --help
[12:18] <philinux> wget;~ I just let the updater run once a day. Except on my test machine running  utopic
[12:19] <histo> lamrz: or man exiftool I'm not familiar with it so you may have to read the man page for the proper option
[12:21] <lamrz> histo, sure, I'll read through the help
[12:22] <YamakasY> any webdav expert here ? or actually autofs ones ?
[12:23] <histo> lamrz: exiftool -all= some.jpg
[12:24] <lamrz> histo, thank you very very much!
[12:25] <histo> lamrz: np found a man page online
[12:26]  * histo needs sleep
[12:27] <Quoexl> amen bro
[12:28] <ObrienDave> lamrz, http://linux.die.net/man/1/exiftool
[12:29] <Wr3x> Hmmmm Ubuntu 14.04 keeps crashing for me
[12:30] <ObrienDave> what exactly crashes?
[12:30] <Wr3x> Everything locks up and freezes. Yesterday my num lock and caps lock LEDs were flashing as it happened
[12:35] <AnalogDitigal> Hi guys, I'm on Precise (12.04). The OS doesn't recongise the CD drive. All the google results for people with the same problem brought up people who had managed to get it working by physically removing and replugging it after changing a switch position, or cleaning it etc. Any software troubleshooting?
[12:36] <AnonLucifer> yo!
[12:37] <daftykins> AnalogDitigal: ignoring the installed OS, is it able to boot a liveDVD?
[12:37] <daftykins> so that you know it works
[12:38] <AnalogDitigal> daftykins  - Hmm.. Hadn't really thought about that. I'm on the PC right now. Will check. But anything else to check before I reboot?
[12:38] <AnalogDitigal> daftykins - it works/worked on Windows
[12:39] <OerHeks> AnalogDitigal, so what happens when you insert a cd?
[12:39] <AnalogDitigal> OerHeks - Not even able to do that. Pressing the button doesn't even open the drive.
[12:40] <AnalogDitigal> OerHeks - I don't think it's getting any power. Whether it's a software issue is the question. Wondering if there's some way to check,
[12:40] <cfhowlett> AnonLucifer ask your ubuntu questions
[12:41] <guynux_> bonjour
[12:41] <guynux_> des soucis pour connecter un clavier bluetooth sous xfce
[12:41] <newbie89> 안녕하세요
[12:42] <ObrienDave> !fr | guynux_
[12:42] <daftykins> AnalogDitigal: if you're not willing to go as far as rebooting into another OS to check, there is nothing we can do
[12:42] <daftykins> AnalogDitigal: but not ejecting is unlikely to be software ;)
[12:42] <OerHeks> AnalogDitigal, conflicting info, 'works in windows'  'button does not open drive'  'dont think it is getting power'
[12:43] <raub> AnalogDitigal: I assume you already checked dmesg and syslog for any funny business
[12:43] <AnalogDitigal> OerHeks - WAS working in Windows.. but that was quite some time ago. But why should it be conflicting? Isn't there a software "switch" which controls power itself?
[12:44] <AnalogDitigal> raub - nope. This is the kind of thing I was asking about. What do I do?
[12:44] <AnonLucifer> do u guys know good video edit programs fro ubuntu?
[12:44] <raub> Go through dmesg (or /var/log/dmesg) and see if it mentions your drive
[12:44] <Aaruni> Lubuntu 12.04 refuses to connect to wired internet via ethernet cable. hardware doesn't show any activity either (no lights). help ?
[12:45] <raub> AnalogDitigal: OerHeks point is to see if problem follows the OS or not
[12:45] <daftykins> hey i said it too ;_;
[12:45] <daftykins> ;)
[12:45] <raub> daftykins: me read slow, and type slower ;)
[12:46] <cfhowlett> AnonLucifer openshot cinerella kdenlive        my preference for easy editing is openshot.  very easy and intuitive for basic edits
[12:46] <AnalogDitigal> daftykins - lol. yup. raub, OerHeks - What I'm asking is...isn't it possible that the drive works fine in Windows, and doesn't even get power, in Ubuntu? Is the power/eject drive mechanism completely independent of OS? (brb... trawling through dmesg)
[12:46] <pdo_fn14> !package dpkg
[12:47] <OerHeks> AnalogDitigal, no, power is independent from your OS
[12:48] <daftykins> AnalogDitigal: is this a desktop or laptop? your ideas are pretty crazy
[12:48] <raub> Aaruni: Do you know if the ethernet device was recognized at boot time? Do you know who is controlling it? Does it show up in, say, ifconfig or maybe even lspci or /proc/net?
[12:48] <AnalogDitigal> daftykins, OerHeks, raub - laptop. And no, not able to find anything about a cd-rom in dmesg
[12:48] <shellox> hi, is anyone using high resolution ultrabooks here(2560 x 1440 or higher)
[12:49] <Aaruni> raub: it doesn't show up in ifconfig. in lspci, it does show up, but as an unclaimed network device
[12:49] <ObrienDave> aarontc, proprietary driver?
[12:50] <raub> AnalogDitigal: so it did not recognize it. Have you tried booting off a livecd as suggested to see if it is there? Have you consider it might be a bit loose 9physical)?
[12:50] <AnalogDitigal> daftykins, raub, OerHeks - perhaps I should've skipped mentioning "getting power". What I mean is that pressing the button doesn't do anything. The LED doesn't light up, nor does the drive pop-out. (It's an Acer TravelMate P-643M)
[12:50] <OerHeks> AnalogDitigal, one step you can do: open terminal( ctrl alt T):  eject # this softwarecommand will release cd-rom tray
[12:50] <raub> AnalogDitigal: if it is a removable drive, it might be a bit loose
[12:51] <cfhowlett> !cookie|OerHeks whoa!  never knew about that command!  thanks!
[12:51] <OerHeks> AnalogDitigal, if that does not work, i assume your drive is dead and will not work in windows either
[12:51] <AnalogDitigal> raub - inbuilt. OerHeks - unable to find or open device for cd-rom
[12:51] <raub> Aaruni: paste the line from lspci for ethernet drive
[12:51] <OerHeks> cfhowlett, eject && eject t # to close again
[12:52] <Aaruni> raub: I don't have access to the machine right now. It was something atheros
[12:52] <cfhowlett> OerHeks that there is some ninja level linux command line!
[12:52] <raub> OerHeks: lshw time for AnalogDitigal perhaps?
[12:52] <daftykins> AnalogDitigal: hardware.
[12:52] <OerHeks> raub, lshw should show the device, yes
[12:52] <AnalogDitigal> raub, OerHeks, daftykins - yeah.. I'll check the LiveCD now. (raub - I did lshw | grep *cd-rom >> nothing)
[12:53] <raub> just grepping for cdrom might not suffice; it could be using something else
[12:53] <daftykins> AnalogDitigal: since it's a laptop, power off, pull the mains and battery, then power on and enter BIOS, try to eject. Consider removing a single screw underneath to reseat the drive too, if you feel confident. But yes - this is not ubuntu :)
[12:54] <raub> Aaruni: when you do find out, let us know. That said AFAIK atheros is usually wireless
[12:54] <AnalogDitigal> daftykins - haha.. Will do. Thanks guys! (cc @raub, OerHeks)
[12:54] <raub> Adding to what daftykins said,while you are there, go to the bios and see if it sees the drive
[12:54] <Aaruni> raub: that's what I thought too, but lspci shows nothing for wireless, and AFAIK, the machine has a RaLink wireless chip ( i remember installing ralink drivers under windows for wi-fi)
[12:55] <_blasty_> 'sudo pip install libusb1' fails with 'from requests.adapters import BaseAdapter .. ImportError: No module named adapters' .. it seems the 'requests' package has hosed pip. I found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-pip/+bug/1308714 .. but Im not exactly sure what the sane resolution here is.
[12:55] <Aaruni> also not, raub, Lubuntu comes with kernel 3.2, I think that may be a problem. I just made a customised install image with 3.13. you think that should fix it?
[12:55] <raub> Aaruni: pastebin the output of slpci and lshw when you do get your hands on laptop
[12:56] <raub> Aaruni: I honeslty do not know
[12:57] <jnhghy> dash search is not finding my .odt files since this morning update - anybody knows about a bug? or is this happening only to me? any idea how I can check the last update updated softwares?
[12:58] <Sagar> Hello, i am getting this error
[12:58] <Sagar> http://pastebin.com/V3aZ3pNS
[12:58] <Sagar> i just updated the os using do-release-upgrade
[12:59] <hateball> Sagar: well, it tells you what to do
[13:00] <schnitzl--> hey, can someone recommend a multu touch tool. i am not very happy with touchegg. it has hight cpu usage after a while, this seems to be a known bug + i wont work very good with i3wm + it seems as if its not developed any more...suggstions welcome.
[13:00] <Sagar> hateball: what should i do?
[13:00] <Sagar> please tell me
[13:00] <Aaruni> Sagar: sudo apt-get install -f
[13:00] <hateball> Sagar: ^
[13:00] <schnitzl--> with multi touch tool i mean some kin dof tool wich supports gesture recognition like swipe to go back in the browser etc.
[13:00] <Sagar> aaruni: did the same but still the same errors
[13:01] <hateball> Sagar: Also, why are you running as root instead of using sudo
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> Sagar: easystroke has gesture recognition :)
[13:01] <Aaruni> Sagar: did you apt-get update, before trying to install -f ?
[13:01] <Sagar> http://pastebin.com/FtKTwgFg
[13:01] <Sagar> yes
[13:01] <Somaya> hi how can i boot my flash to install iso image of ubuntu 14.04
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> Somaya: set it to be the first boot device in BIOS
[13:02] <ObrienDave> Somaya, needs to be setup in BIOS
[13:02] <Somaya> how
[13:02] <schnitzl--> ActionParsnip: I think you ment "schnitzl" ;)  but thanks. i will take a look
[13:02] <cfhowlett> Somaya when booting, a message should appear "hit f something to change boot options"
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> Sagar: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[13:03] <Sagar> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[13:03] <YamakasY> ok, I can mount manually my davshare but only as root
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> !info libglib2.0-0
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Sagar: sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-0
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Sagar: is that ok?
[13:04] <Sagar> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/qwqJ2bwH
[13:05] <Somaya> cfhowlett i did format my usb to ntfs and use virtual clone drive to boot my flash but it didn't worked
[13:05] <cfhowlett> Somaya the error message was ... ?
[13:06] <Sagar> ActionParsnip: what could be broken?
[13:06] <Somaya> when i restart my computer it says the drive doesn't have os
[13:06] <Hounddog> I have a weird issue, i cant make my sublime editor visible, the program is running when i try to select it, t selects other windows instead
[13:06] <Aaruni> Sagar: looks like conflicting versions of the same software.
[13:06] <cfhowlett> Somaya try a different USB -
[13:07] <Hounddog> I even tried using alt+space to move it incase it is out of the window and it just selects chrome browser or even the terminal
[13:07] <designbybeck__> When I try to open my Documents folder from with the file browser, it closes
[13:07] <Somaya> i tried 2 usb but it didn't worked
[13:07] <designbybeck__> Other folders seem to work, just that one closes. I've checked and turn off large file thumbnails and such thinking that migth be it
[13:07] <Sagar> Aaruni: yes i think so what should i dO?
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Sagar: have you added any PPAs?
[13:07] <Sagar> PPAs?
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Sagar: yes, 3rd party sources for packages
[13:07] <Hounddog> i have no idea how to get back into my editor...
[13:07] <Sagar> also i ran aptitude install libglib2.0-0
[13:08] <Sagar> its removing packages
[13:08] <lamrz> hello again, I have two OS running on my device, and I'd like to access the home folder of the other OS. some time ago I'd used a command with ecryptfs to do so, but I cant remember it anymore. could you maybe help please?
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Sagar: why are you using aptitude?
[13:08] <odisa> lamrz: two instances of Ubuntu?
[13:08] <lamrz> odisa, correct
[13:09] <ugx578> lamrz: do you still have the pass/keys?
[13:09] <odisa> lamrz: ahh hmm.. I had to do that to after encrypting one of the home folders.. trying to remember how I remedied that
[13:09] <Sagar> ActionParsnip: i thought i could solve the issue
[13:09] <lamrz> odisa, I just want to access home folder
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> lamrz: which 2 OSes do you have?
[13:09] <lamrz> ugx578, yes
[13:09] <lamrz> 12.04 and 14.04
[13:09] <lamrz> ActionParsnip, 12.04 and 14.04
[13:09] <odisa> I think it may have been a chown/chmod thing
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> lamrz: seems weird to run that....
[13:10] <ugx578> lamrz: if you can see the others file system, say see 12.04's from 14.04, you can mount the folder
[13:10] <lamrz> ActionParsnip, if it can be done without it, the better :)
[13:10] <Somaya> efhowlett may be i made mistake on booting my flash do you have any direction to how boot the usb
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> lamrz: without what?
[13:10] <Aaruni> Sagar: I'm not sure about this, but try to purge libc6, and then try again ?
[13:10] <TJ-> lamrz: "man ecryptfs-mount-private"
[13:11] <lamrz> ugx578, I try to see 14.04. from 12.04. but there is a file named "access your private data.desktop" there
[13:11] <odisa> I'm looking to give a shot at developing an indicator for Ubuntu, but the links in this reference page are dead: https://unity.ubuntu.com/projects/appindicators/
[13:11] <ikonia> do not try to purge libc6
[13:11] <ObrienDave> Somaya, we told you, you have to set it up in BIOS to read the USB drive first
[13:11] <odisa> What is a good resource to start with?
[13:11] <lamrz> ActionParsnip, maybe I got your previous comment wrong..I thought you meant using that command wouldnt be necessary
[13:11] <Sagar> Aaruni and ActionParsnip: >>> http://pastebin.com/utrxXjsJ
[13:11] <Somaya> do you people have any direction to how boot the usb
[13:11] <lamrz> TJ- , thank you!
[13:11] <ugx578> lamrz: I think your looking for a .Private folder to mount with ecryptfs
[13:12] <ikonia> Somaya: set boot device in your bios,
[13:12] <ikonia> Somaya: that's all you need to do
[13:12] <odisa> Somaya: get into your BIOS boot settings
[13:12] <odisa> Usually it's escape or one of the function keys
[13:12] <lamrz> ugx578, I dont know..there is only this file, and when I click it says the link is broken ?!?
[13:13] <Somaya> odisa how can i do that
[13:13] <lamrz> anyway, I'm switching to the other system..seems faster :)
[13:13] <Sagar> ??
[13:13] <ObrienDave> Somaya, research your computer model for BIOS settings
[13:13] <odisa> Somaya: when you start your computer, hit the appropriate key before it gets the chance to get to the login screen
[13:13] <Aaruni> Somaya: when the computer is booting up, you'll usually see something like "Press esc to enter BIOS setup", or similar
[13:14] <ugx578> lamrz: sudo mount -t ecryptfs (14.04computer)/home/username/.Private (wherever on 12.02)
[13:14] <Aaruni> Sagar: dunno.
[13:14] <Sagar> :o
[13:14] <ugx578> lamrz: and vice versa
[13:15] <lamrz> ugx578, thank you! I've now already started the other OS, but next time I'll try the command
[13:15] <ObrienDave> Somaya, i've seen, F2, F1, F10, F12, home, delete, esc. could be any one of those or others
[13:15] <Somaya> tnx everybody
[13:16] <Sagar> anyone??
[13:16] <Sagar> http://pastebin.com/utrxXjsJ
[13:16] <ugx578> Sagar: why not run 'apt-get -f install'
[13:17] <Aaruni> ugx578: he's done that. it doesn't fix
[13:17] <Sagar> tried still the same error
[13:17] <ugx578> oh gotcha
[13:17] <ugx578> i just had the problem!
[13:17] <ugx578> it's libglib
[13:17] <odisa> Sagar: try apt-get -f install as it suggests
[13:17] <ugx578> i think let me check, i think there's a 2.0 and a 1.1
[13:17] <odisa> oh
[13:17] <ugx578> and they aren't compatible
[13:17] <Sagar> odisa: [18:47] <Aaruni> ugx578: he's done that. it doesn't fix
[13:18] <odisa> Sagar: yeah I'm a bit slow, lol
[13:18] <Sagar> ok i got this
[13:18] <ugx578> no i was thinking libgcrypt...
[13:19] <loa> how do you think what is normal size for root partition for ubuntu?
[13:19] <Sagar> after i run "apt-get -f install"  >> http://pastebin.com/RUqFQw9n
[13:19] <ObrienDave> loa, mine is 15G going to make it 30G soon
[13:20] <ugx578> Sagar: do you have software center running in the background? it looks like dpkg is locked out
[13:20] <loa> and how much free space on it you have?
[13:20] <lamrz> sorry again...might cut-pasting dd images between partitions affect the quality of carbon-copied data in them?
[13:20] <ObrienDave> now, about 4.5G
[13:20] <Sagar> ugx578: how can i check that?
[13:20] <odisa> Sagar: run "top" in your terminal
[13:20] <odisa> (press Q to quit out of top)
[13:20] <Sagar> http://prntscr.com/3rft0v
[13:20] <ugx578> Sagar: if your in a GUI it should be in a tab, if it's headless maybe try a restart
[13:21] <Sagar> i am using sshd (putty)
[13:21] <luckybunny> ok so I'm thinking of reinstalling ubuntu onto the same partition it was already on (sda6). Gparted tells me it's ext4 (which I expected, being my ubuntu partition), but also has it flagged as msftdata
[13:21] <ugx578> Sagar: have you tried restarting the server? if you can, nerveracking when it doesn't come up again lol
[13:21] <Sagar> ok let me make a reboot
[13:22] <luckybunny> this makes me a little suspicious of it, because I definitely don't want to go over any of the windows stuff on the computer
[13:22] <luckybunny> just reinstalling the ubuntu
[13:22] <ugx578> luckybunny: it might be looking at /boot?
[13:23] <ObrienDave> luckybunny, msftdata is just the partition table header
[13:23] <Sagar> ok done
[13:23] <luckybunny> so there's nothing windows on there?
[13:23] <ObrienDave> luckybunny, dual boot?
[13:23] <luckybunny> yes
[13:23] <Sagar> ugx578: i got this on login now >> http://pastebin.com/zsQH14ix
[13:23] <odisa> Sagar: you did sudo the command right? the apt-get -f install
[13:23] <ugx578> odisa: that would cause it for sure lol
[13:24] <ugx578> Sagar: your running root though that shouldn't be the problem
[13:24] <ugx578> Sagar: try running apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[13:24] <Sagar> Yes i am on root, is that a problem?
[13:24] <Sagar> ok wait
[13:24] <_1_wuilder> Mira ésta imagen: http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/116/6s59.jpg
[13:24] <luckybunny> I don't want to kill windows, so if there's any important windows files on sda6 I'm not gonna reinstall ubuntu on it, but being ext4 formatted, I honestly can't see how windows would have anything there, because it can't natively read ext file systems
[13:24] <mikecmpbll> anyone got any idea how i could debug a reboot taking an hour and a half?
[13:24] <mikecmpbll> syslog shows nothing during that hour and a half
[13:25] <ugx578> mikecmbll: iohang?
[13:25]  * mikecmpbll googles
[13:25] <ObrienDave> luckybunny, just means it's a msdos partition table
[13:25] <Sagar> ugx578: http://pastebin.com/UtyJKBYn
[13:25] <luckybunny> ah
[13:26] <ObrienDave> luckybunny, as long as you install Ubuntu to sda6, you SHOULD be ok
[13:26] <ugx578> Sagar: this one's one you, it might mess things up worse or it might fix it, but if I were you i'd install those 4 dependencies manually , the ones that say "but it is not installed"
[13:27] <admin_> hello
[13:27] <Sagar> ugx578: so how could i do that?
[13:27] <ugx578> Sagar: *on you* first one's, apt-get install libcanberra-gtk3-0
[13:27] <ugx578> Sagar: then apt-get install libgtk-3-0
[13:27] <ugx578> Sagar: etc
[13:27] <admin_> do you know  a rpg game for xubuntu??
[13:28] <admin_> why my parole media player not available??
[13:29] <admin_> hi
[13:29] <Sagar> ugx578: http://prntscr.com/3rfvlr
[13:30] <ObrienDave> luckybunny, you going to use live DVD to install?
[13:30] <luckybunny> USB
[13:30] <admin_> no i using live usb
[13:30] <theadmin> admin_: They aren't talking to you, watch for the nickname to find replies to your own questions
[13:31] <admin_> hai
[13:31] <ObrienDave> same diff. when it asks where, select "something else" then select sda6
[13:31] <theadmin> Sagar: "menu.lst" sounds ancient, what Ubuntu version is this
[13:31] <Sagar> theadmin: it's 14.04
[13:31] <theadmin> Very odd, are you using grub-ḷegacy?
[13:31] <admin_> oh i'am sorry
[13:31] <admin_> ^_^
[13:32] <admin_> he he he
[13:32] <theadmin> Sagar: (that last one was meant for you), are you using grub-legacy
[13:33] <Aaruni> Sagar: from which version did you upgrade to 14.04 ?
[13:34] <pinnen> Sagar: just keep the old version if it works and just let apt resolve the problems for you? :) "keep the local version currently installed"
[13:34] <pinnen> cant be a big hop in version difference if you haven't made an upgrade from 12.04 or something
[13:35] <odisa> Hmm.. I'm trying to install ubuntu-sdk but I'm getting a "403 - Forbidden" error.. http://pastebin.com/RZubBjvR (starting line 200)
[13:35] <lamrz> ugx578, it seems I have the only chance to access 14.04 from 12.04...but the command opens a help text for mount command
[13:35] <pinnen> Sagar: sorry, I havent read your whole story.. forget what I said :)
[13:36] <theadmin> odisa: Your mirror is broken, select a different one in Software Center
[13:36] <pinnen> fought you had dependencie-problems
[13:37] <odisa> thanks theadmin.. suspected that
[13:37] <lamrz> it seems I need to install ecryptfs utils to use ecryptfs....is there another way to access the other OS home folder?
[13:39] <odisa> lamrz: by not using home folder encryptio
[13:40] <lamrz> odisa, so the only way is to install and use ecryptfs?
[13:42] <odisa> not sure lamrz
[13:42] <odisa> lamrz: is it imperative that you have home folder encryption?
[13:43] <lamrz> odisa, there is already one
[13:45] <might_get_loud> my terminal wont run
[13:45] <might_get_loud> i can run root shell from recovery mode
[13:45] <might_get_loud> but inside xfce
[13:45] <might_get_loud> terminator nor xfce-emulator wont run
[13:45] <might_get_loud> i tried runing htop but it was error msg saying invalid input/output
[13:45] <might_get_loud> any ideas?
[13:45] <unopaste> might_get_loud you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[13:46] <ice9> how to disable vsync?
[13:47] <hateball> might_get_loud: is your disk full?
[13:47] <lamrz> rephrasing my question : is there a method to use to access home folder of the other OS on the same drive? except for using ecrytpfs?
[13:47] <might_get_loud> no, my disk is not full
[13:48] <might_get_loud> 50  gigs free
[13:48] <OerHeks> ice9, you can disable vsync in nvidia control center
[13:49] <ice9> OerHeks: I don't have nvidia
[13:49] <OerHeks> ice9, vsync is an option in nvidia, not ati AFAIK
[13:50] <loa> is theare way to create something like elastic partition?
[13:50] <loa> something wich i can mount using loop
[13:50] <OerHeks> ice then give us more info, what videocard?
[13:50] <loa> but with elastic size?
[13:53] <might_get_loud> can someone paste me the answer( if any) i had to change my pc
[13:53] <mikecmpbll> so uh, looking at the log it seems like this is the cause of my slow boot: it reboots by cron at 4am, when it's rebooted ntpdate corrects the time (it's out by 2 mins!) this sets it back before 4am, and the reboot cron seems to run again ..
[13:53] <mikecmpbll> anyone ever encountered this before?
[13:54] <Putti> Hi! I'm trying to use PAM to disable/unlock gnome screen saver. Unfortunately I found that gnome-screensaver-command -d couldn't be used, because there is a bug in ubuntu 14.04. Does anyone have a workaround for this? Thanks!
[13:54] <mikecmpbll> not sure if it's getting in to a loop thereafter.
[13:54] <ugx578> rofl
[13:55] <loa> how do you think, if i change io shelduer back cfq will i notice something?
[13:55] <lakupiippu> How can I mount a 'filesystem.squashfs' file?
[13:55] <loa> i want to ionice few backup jobs
[13:55] <loa> but with deadline i can't do that.
[13:57] <Slart> mikecmpbll: why not make it reboot a bit later.. shutdown has a switch for added time, I think
[13:58] <Slart> mikecmpbll: so the cronjob runs the command to "reboot in 30 minutes".. even if it then adjusts the clock it won't go back to before the reboot command was run
[13:58] <Slart> mikecmpbll: or you can just run the ntp daemon to adjust the clock continously.. or run a clock update around 3-ish... chose your poison =)
[14:01] <mikecmpbll> Slart: decent idea! thanks i'll try that
[14:03] <zkv> Hello! How can i make my wifi work in just installed ubuntu? I have read wifi documentation and have not found any information that can help me.. All corresponding packages are installed. But i think there is no driver.. Please any idea how can i go on with it?
[14:04] <ObrienDave> zkv, which brand of adapter are you using?
[14:05] <zkv> ObrienDave, i have Network controller:Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 when i do lspci | grep Network
[14:05] <ObrienDave> !broadcomm | zkv
[14:05] <ObrienDave> !broadcom | zkv
[14:06] <zkv> ObrienDave, thank you very much!!!
[14:06] <lamrz> I've installed ecryptfs, and typed the command here, leaving the "mount passphrase" blank. where will I find the generated password?
[14:06] <lamrz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7623705/
[14:06] <rafaelpt> hi
[14:08] <rafaelpt> My laptop overheats a bit after suspension. Info: Hp g62, Ubuntu-gnome 3.10 14.04, Hybrid Graphics Intel/ Radeon HD 5xxx
[14:09] <ObrienDave> rafaelpt, have you checked for latest BIOS firmware lately?
[14:10] <rafaelpt> ObrienDave , I think I have the latest update, which is from 2011 i think
[14:10] <lamrz> sorry, disconnection...I cant proceed now to avoid losing any password. could you maybe tell me where the generated password is? I typed in this command: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7623705/
[14:10] <ObrienDave> i had HP bios fan issues. check HP for latest BIOS
[14:11] <cfhowlett> zkv fwiw, I used the no internet access STA methodology with a 12.04 ISO.  90 seconds on the command line and I had wifi
[14:11] <lamrz> is there anyone to help please?
[14:12] <cfhowlett> !patience|lamrz
[14:12] <Slart> lamrz: does this help? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[14:12] <lamrz> cfhowlett..sorry
[14:13] <cfhowlett> lamrz you encrypted your HDD.  It's requesting your encryption password
[14:13] <Slart> lamrz: search for "recovering your mount passphrase" on that page
[14:14] <nikolam> I would really like to know who made ALL the names of ALL PPAs I had installed in 13.10, appear like "disabled in updates to trustu"
[14:14] <ObrienDave> nikolam, safety feature
[14:14] <cfhowlett> nikolam this ^^
[14:15] <nikolam> more like some moronic "feature" ..
[14:15] <Slart> nikolam: so, it didn't add "disabled" to the name? just replaced the name? annoying...
[14:15] <nikolam> yup
[14:15] <nikolam> it was problem also before, just it is not fixed, becaus enoone cares
[14:16] <ObrienDave> better than borking your install due to outdated PPAs
[14:16] <trijntje> nikolam, just use a search and replace function to restore the names, even gedit can do that for you
[14:17] <Slart> ObrienDave: noone arguing that disabling the repos was bad.. but replacing the name "My awesome repository for firefox special updates" with just "disabled" is just mean.. why not just add disabled to the name so you still know what it was
[14:17] <nikolam> trijntje, no I will not. Use search replace on system files. no thank you, this is not 1993
[14:17] <lamrz> Slart, thank you, I have the generated (mount) passphrase now. now, with this, will I be able to access my other OS' home folder?
[14:18] <nikolam> seems like comment is displayed first if it is enabled under repo. so removing comment might display it right
[14:18] <Slart> lamrz: I have no idea.. I have never used encryption myself.. just had luck with the google gods =)
[14:19] <lamrz> Slart, I once used it, and was able to move the contents of my home folder into this private directory created by ecryptfs, I think..but it's been a long time, so forgot how it was done.
[14:19] <oal> Any ideas why I get "The following packages have unmet dependencies: libssl-dev : Depends: libssl1.0.0 (= 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2) but 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.1 is to be installed"?
[14:19] <lamrz> my original problem is that HDD of my other is full, so the system starts, but the desktop is shown blank. no launcher, no folder
[14:20] <lamrz> this way I hope to move files from there
[14:20] <lamrz> my other os*
[14:20] <nikolam> I mean maybe I am the one who can do surgery on my list of PPA on every upgrade but regular user will just be left without PPAs without understanding what killed it's apps
[14:20] <Slart> lamrz: sorry.. I have no idea what is possible.. but I'm sure there is someone here that knows
[14:20] <nikolam> also it offered removing numerous apps I think could stay just fine
[14:21] <lamrz> Slart, yes, I will get started with it, and  see..
[14:22] <ugx578> lamrz: you should be able to just mount it
[14:22] <trijntje> nikolam, this is not the place to complain, and it seems you can already solve your problem
[14:22] <ice9> after I installed gnome on ubuntu and removed it the app menus are not displayed in the title bar as it should be in unity, how do I restore it?
[14:22] <bildz> question, in /etc/resolv.conf, why doesnt it go to the next nameserver, after the first one fails?  I'm trying to search multiple domains with 4 nameservers listed.  Is this possible?
[14:23] <ugx578> lamrz: on your full system the file for your ecryptfs directory should be /home/(username)/.Private
[14:24] <ugx578> lamrz: sudo mount -t (thatfile) /mountfolder
[14:24] <pavlos> bildz, man resolvconf
[14:24] <ugx578> lamrz: *sudo mount -t ecryptfs (thatfile) /mountfolder
[14:25] <lamrz> ugx578, thank you so much..I hope so, I will log out now as the procedure requires.
[14:25] <ugx578> lamrz: good luck
[14:26] <thedoctor> hi
[14:26] <lamrz> ugx578, thank you!
[14:26] <Flolila> hello pls help i want to run bleachbit but it doesnt start. i get this error
[14:26] <Flolila> Traceback (most recent call last):
[14:26] <Flolila>   File "/usr/bin/bleachbit", line 41, in <module>
[14:26] <Flolila>     import gtk
[14:26] <Flolila> ImportError: No module named gtk
[14:26] <redcross> bit locker
[14:27] <grimeton> what happened to swat in 14.04?
[14:27] <redcross> is dying hard and fast
[14:27] <ugx578> Flolila sudo apt-get build-dep bleachbit
[14:27] <redcross> swat ?
[14:27] <redcross> dep ?
[14:27] <nikolam> trijntje, it is Exactly place to complain and it is not MY tproblem but Ubuntu update problem.
[14:28] <redcross> what does dep mean ?
[14:28] <odisa> Hey. I'm trying to assign a keyboard shortcut to print temperatures.. so I tried binding a shortcut to the command "temp" (my alias for sensors | grep "temp"), as well as "gnome-terminal && temp", but neither work..  how can I do this?
[14:28] <ugx578> redcross: should be dependency
[14:28] <redcross> intall and fix depndices ?
[14:28] <Flolila> ugx578 it didnt help i still get the same error
[14:28] <redcross> but i meant the whole string of commands ?
[14:28] <Slart> odisa: try something like    gnome-terminal -c temp    instead... or whatever the switch is... man gnome-terminal is good
[14:28] <ugx578> redcross: apt-get build-dep installs all the dependencies to compile
[14:28] <redcross> nice
[14:28] <trijntje> nikolam, no its not, because nobody here can fix it. File a bug if you think you have a better solution than disabling the ppa's
[14:29] <cfhowlett> nikolam so you're complaining to users about your user problems.  and what do you think we users are going to do about your issues?
[14:29] <Slart> odisa: sorry.. it's gnome-terminal -x   or   gnome-terminal -e
[14:29] <odisa> Slart: thanks, I'll have a look. what do -x and -e do?
[14:29] <nikolam> Disabling ppa is even not that bad, putting comment that disabling viewing their names is a bit of a problem
[14:29] <Slart> odisa: run the command in the terminal
[14:29] <ugx578> Flolila: maybe try sudo apt-get install python-gtk2 ?
[14:29] <cfhowlett> nikolam so file a bug.  NOTHING we can do about it.
[14:29] <redcross> ty
[14:30] <Lrrr1> well thats sucks,... tracy morgan died
[14:30] <Lrrr1> i liked that dude
[14:30] <cfhowlett> Lrrr1 sad news but off-topic.
[14:30] <odisa> Slart: gives me "There was an error creating the child process for this terminal"
[14:30] <redcross> that sucks
[14:30] <Lrrr1> oh i was talking about ubuntu
[14:30] <nikolam> cfhowlett, in free software distributions, there is no "users" and "devs" everyone can contribute. With it's thoughts, with actioins and with code
[14:30] <odisa> "Failed to execute child process "temp" (No such file or directory)"
[14:30] <faudzan> haii
[14:30] <Flolila> ugx578 it says i already have the latest version installed
[14:30] <Slart> odisa: does your command work if you just run it in a terminal? or that was what you did?
[14:31] <odisa> that's what I did
[14:31] <faudzan> im indo
[14:31] <nikolam> cfhowlett, you are wrong.
[14:31] <faudzan> how bout u
[14:31] <Slart> odisa: can you run something like  ....    gnome-terminal -x top
[14:31] <odisa> works fine Slart
[14:32] <cfhowlett> nikolam   dude.  none of us develop this OS.  if you feel so strongly, file an official bug.  either way, your rants are taking up bandwidth that could be used for people with support issues.  a little thought and consideration go a long way.
[14:32] <loa> what it is tool to test drive health in ubuntu 13.10?
[14:32] <zkv> ObrienDave, everything with WiFi works perfect. Thank you very much!
[14:32] <Slart> odisa: hmm.. ok so your command was just a lm-sensors | grep something ?
[14:32] <ObrienDave> zkv, glad to be of assistance :))
[14:32] <trijntje> loa, gnome-disks, you can also search for SMART in the dash
[14:33] <odisa> Slart: well I have an alias "temp" assigned to "sensors | grep "temp""
[14:33] <odisa> but now I'm trying the full command as a shortcut (so gnome-terminal -x sensors | grep "temp") and the terminal just flashes and disappears
[14:33] <Slart> odisa: ok. same error here.. let me think for a minute
[14:33] <nikolam> cfhowlett, well, that is what YOu think. If you do not, there is always someone wdo DO (for its' own part). It is not Windows, you know, where you use only what you must.. Those are not rants, but questions and answers and you can rant off yourself with that windows-like "o we are just users" BS attitude.
[14:34] <odisa> Slart: ok :)
[14:34] <ugx578> Flolila that's wierd I can't really explain that
[14:34] <cfhowlett> nikolam developers are  in a different channel.  I'm done.
[14:34] <loa> trijntje, gnome-disks said that i have 18880 bad sectors... i am happy now.
[14:35] <nikolam> cfhowlett, no you are just f. beginnign to grasp waht free software distributioins done.
[14:35] <nikolam> are
[14:35] <ugx578> Flolila: maybe apt-get install python-gtk2-dev?
[14:35] <Slart> odisa: this seems useful... you might have to run bash in the terminal to run commands like that http://askubuntu.com/questions/232033/start-up-terminal-with-command-then-go-to-bash-shell
[14:35] <ugx578> Flolila: everything is pointing to that
[14:35] <Aaruni> I have a problem in Ubuntu with disk transfers. Whenever I transfer files, disk usage shoots to a very high value, but the whole system is pretty much unusable till the file transfer is complete. ( http://edufor.fosspowered.com/img/image.php?di=I05G ). Is this a bug?
[14:35] <Flolila> will try
[14:36] <Flolila> ugx installing 119mb
[14:36] <trijntje> nikolam, then go and fix it yourself, and stop bothering us with it
[14:36] <Slart> odisa: try this    gnome-terminal -x bash -c "sensors | grep temp; bash"
[14:36] <odisa> Slart: looks useful, I'll see what I can extract from that, thanks
[14:36] <odisa> Slart: so it will run in bash?
[14:37] <trijntje> Aaruni, which version of ubuntu are you using?
[14:37] <Slart> odisa: yes.. it will run gnome-terminal and then run bash in that terminal to run your command
[14:37] <nikolam> trijntje, no problem with you 2 people is that you attack every meaningfull contribution in a form of reports a bout problems . And create negative attitude toward contribution. Why it that, that is your f. problem, not mine.
[14:37] <Aaruni> trijntje: precise 64bit
[14:38] <odisa> Slart: hmm not working
[14:38] <skinux> I need a good backup program which supports backing up to remote drive?
[14:38] <Slart> odisa: you copy/pasted? error messages?
[14:38] <cfhowlett> !backup | skinux
[14:39] <odisa> Slart: I did.. nothing happens when hitting the shortcut
[14:39] <odisa> I'll try manually
[14:39] <Tin_man> i've a 32 gig flash drive, it's empty, i've formated it as ext4, and ntfs, and fat, all operations tried to this device says the disk is full, when using startup disk creator, and trying to erase the data thats not there, get a large error message, nothing will write to it, won't back up data to it.. any clues?
[14:39] <Slart> odisa: but does it work when you run it from another terminal?
[14:39] <Aaruni> Tin_man: is it transcend ?
[14:39] <trijntje> Aaruni, which kernel are you using (uname -a) in a terminal, it could be related to the problem fixed here
[14:39] <ObrienDave> Tin_man, try Unetbootin
[14:39] <trijntje> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2637_video&num=1
[14:40] <Aaruni> trijntje: 3.13.0-29-generic
[14:40] <Tin_man> don't know its a sans cruser
[14:40] <odisa> Slart: well this is odd.. all my other shortcuts stopped working
[14:40] <Tin_man> i'll try unetbootin
[14:40] <Tin_man> thanks
[14:40] <Tin_man> i'll check back
[14:40] <odisa> Slart: it works from terminal yes
[14:40] <trijntje> Aaruni, ok, in that case you have the patch described in that link, nevermind
[14:41] <Slart> odisa: perhaps a reboot will make the shortcuts come back?
[14:41] <Slart> odisa: if it works from a terminal it should work from a shortcut, afaik
[14:41] <odisa> Slart: yes I'll try that, brb. thanks
[14:41] <Slart> odisa: you're welcoem
[14:42] <astojo> hello all.  I have a host of F2FS usb sticks that I use for my files, and can't make ubuntu (gnome) address the drives.  is there something I need to do besides installing f2fs-tools?  i see them in the gnome disks utility, but not in nautilus.
[14:43] <odisa> Slart: Rebooted; it works fine now, thanks !
[14:44] <Slart> odisa: great. Happy to help
[14:44] <skinux> Are the help pages editable by community? I think I've noticed a couple of spelling errors.
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> skinux: the official documentations are wiki based, so yes
[14:45] <Pici> !itsawiki
[14:45]  * genii feeds Pici a tasty cookie
[14:46] <loa> how many information is on one "bad sector"?
[14:46] <loa> how i can get this information?
[14:46] <ObrienDave> loa, depends on your HD
[14:46] <ugx578> loa: if it's a bad sector i think the hard drive skips right over it, it decreases the size of the drive
[14:47] <Slart> loa: I think that might depend on the hard drive... wasn't it a new thing with 4k sectors recently? that should give you an idea
[14:47] <loa> ugx578, so i want to know how much real space i have...
[14:47] <loa> i have now 18880 bad sectors.
[14:47] <cfhowlett_> loa  run a terminal:  free
[14:47] <holstein> loa: if you have many, the drive is likely dying.. you should ask the manufacturer,or consult a hardware specific support avenue
[14:47] <ugx578> loa: what it reports is the actual space you have, the hardware is doing the skipping not the os
[14:47] <Slart> loa: I think that disk is dying anyway.. don't count on using it for long
[14:47] <cfhowlett_> loa no not that.  sorry.
[14:48] <holstein> loa: if i saw that list, i wouldnt trust the drive any longer..
[14:48] <ObrienDave> loa, you need to know the size of sectors, how many are good and do the math
[14:48] <compdoc> loa, time for a new drive
[14:48] <cfhowlett_> loa hardware failure is coming for you at the worst time.  plan on it.
[14:48] <loa> i need to finish my work...
[14:48] <loa> and i already have failures today
[14:48] <CalimeroTeknik> well you need to take care of this first
[14:48] <ObrienDave> loa, you NEED to change the drive
[14:48] <Slart> loa: I don't think the hard drive will care about your work.. it's dying..
[14:48] <cfhowlett_> loa go ahead.  your HDD is still going to fail exactly when you don't want it to.
[14:49] <holstein> loa: you wont "finish your work" on that drive..
[14:49] <lamrz> ugx578, hello back, I am asked this upon running 'sudo ecryptfs-recover-private' : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7623859/  ..yet when I view folders in nautilus, there are about 21 folders  under .Private (which I dont know why should be asked to be recovered), and besides, my home folder is here: /media/otherhomefolder/home/username/
[14:49] <holstein> loa: *all* drives fail.. so make sure you always have backups
[14:49] <loa> holstein, my work not on my harddirve )
[14:49] <loa> i need working station...
[14:49] <cfhowlett_> loa backup your work to a usb, go to school and head for the computer lab.  not an ubuntu issue we can help with.
[14:49] <holstein> loa: sure.. but, if your work is on your hard drive...
[14:49] <luckybunny> general computing question, more than a ubuntu one.. but is it possible to set up a port forward in a way that a service is accessible on the same port, regardless which (of two or more computers) machine is listening?
[14:49] <lamrz> and when I say 'no' to it, the command closes.
[14:50] <helpy> i am trying to install Alfa AUSWU036NHR usb adapter to ubuntu and i can't seem to be successful with that. can't seem to run ./install.sh
[14:50] <helpy> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7623890/
[14:50] <ugx578> lamrz: ya your going to have to adjust for the actual folder locations and where you want to mount them, there's got to be a recursive way to unlock everything let me look it up
[14:50] <cfhowlett_> loa you drive could crash in the next minute, hour or day.  PLAN on this catastrophe, because it is coming your way.
[14:50] <Aaruni> helpy: try running install as sudo
[14:51] <Slart> luckybunny: you could switch traffic around depending on sender.. that way you could have two web-servers serving content on port 80.. not sure if it's recommended though
[14:51] <helpy> i did Aaruni
[14:52] <cfhowlett_> !backtrack|helpy your OS is not supported here.  sorry
[14:52] <loa> cfhowlett_, ok) but can you please again and explain with bad blocks. i have partition for 700gb and i see that drive have 18880 bad sectors. so i don't really have 700gb? and if system tries to record something to bad sector i will have filure?
[14:53] <loa> sorry for this offtopic, idk where i must ask this.
[14:53] <helpy> ubottu, please read the logs! backtrackx is the name of the HOST not the OS.
[14:53] <helpy> i am on 14.04
[14:53] <loa> on the other hand i want to know how ubuntu will act in this situation.
[14:53] <loa> maybe if i free some space from 700gb situation become normal?
[14:54] <luckybunny> well I'm setting up an IRC bouncer (ZNC) which normally runs on my desktop on one port. I have a couple of users on the LAN. Occasionally, I want to log out of my desktop and switch to Windows, and would like to run the same ZNC server on my laptop when I do that. If I start changing ports around, though, that could get a bit of a lengthy struggle, if I could just copy configs and forget about cha
[14:54] <cfhowlett_> loa here's the technical description; your drive is failing.  it will fail at the worst possible moment.  this is a hardware issue and requires a hardware solution; replacement.  UNTIL you replace it, expect increasingly unstable and weird behavior.
[14:54] <luckybunny> changing ports
[14:54] <lamrz> ugx578, thank you so much!
[14:55] <ugx578> lamrz: you got it to work?
[14:55] <lamrz> ugx578, no, it is at the same point as I reported
[14:55] <luckybunny> I did toy with the idea of putting ZNC on windows, but idk... overlapping downtimes via laptop seems better, as well as it being ubuntu, I know what I'm doing lol
[14:55] <Aaruni> it seems that the installer tries to get root by "su root", and not by"sudo su", so you need to provide your root password, and not your sudo password.
[14:56] <cfhowlett_> !root
[14:56] <Slart> luckybunny: if you don't have to run both at the same time I would just change the forwarding when I want to use the laptop.. that way the external stuff stays the same even though you switch things around on the inside of your network
[14:56] <Vivekananda> is there a way to figure out when a software was updated. my firefox was working fine just a day ago and suddenly started hanging ( screen going a little dark). I also see that it says a plugin 'classic compact'  is not available for firefox 29  but it was working 2 days ago
[14:56] <Aaruni> cfhowlett_: that was for helpy
[14:56] <blizzow1> How does one get an intel 7260 centrino wireless card to become somewhat functional in Trusty?  My dmesg shows  my wireless dropping out all the time.  I tried to copy an updated iwlwifi firmware from wireless.kernel.org into /lib/firmware and that did not help.
[14:57] <Flolila> ugx installed it but getting the same error
[14:57] <Slart> Vivekananda: I think there is a log of updates.. /var/log/apt perhaps?
[14:57] <Flolila> ugx578 installed it but getting the same error
[14:57] <naj> hello i'm new to linux and i need some help
[14:57] <helpy> are they different?
[14:57] <cfhowlett_> !ask|naj
[14:57] <ugx578> Flolila: damn lol i've installed that a million times
[14:57] <lamrz> ugx578, I just tried to recover the path as mentioned in the command, and I'm prompted to give the login password..if, after that, I access to the home folder, then it will probably be solved
[14:57] <Slart> Vivekananda: although firefox extension could be updated by firefox itself
[14:57] <philinux> Slart;~ +1 as long as updates not done via terminal
[14:57] <cfhowlett_> helpy there is no root password.  use sudo.
[14:57] <helpy> i did!
[14:58] <helpy> and what i get is there on the pastebin.
[14:58] <Flolila> ugx578 anything else i can do?
[14:58] <helpy> i really can't seem to figure that out :s
[14:58] <ugx578> Flolila: on a fresh install of ubuntu 14.04 it install's and compiles fine lol
[14:58] <Slart> philinux: oh.. apt using terminal doesn't log anything? well well.. you learn stuff every day =)
[14:59] <Vivekananda> Slart: I figured it out and apparently I had removed and reinstalled firefox
[14:59] <Vivekananda> but what happened was I got firefox 29 :( and had removed firefox 26. I was quite happy with 26. Can I get it back somehow
[14:59] <philinux> helpy;~ maybe you need to put sudo in front of your install.sh command
[15:00] <helpy> how is that different from running it with root access philinux?
[15:00] <CalimeroTeknik> don't "maybe with sudo"
[15:00] <naj> i'm using lubuntu and i can connect to ethernet but wen i try to connect to any wireless it says Out Of Range!? and it is not out of range!
[15:00] <Slart> Vivekananda: check packages.ubuntu.com there might be an old package around somewhere. You might be able to use apt as well.. not sure
[15:00] <CalimeroTeknik> firefox doesn't work? try sudo firefox *troll*
[15:01] <odisa> naj: is your wifi adapter working properly?
[15:01] <CalimeroTeknik> (it might actually damn work since firefox runs as a different user and profile…)
[15:01] <philinux> Vivekananda;~ try this https://addons.mozilla.org/vi/firefox/addon/classicthemerestorer/
[15:01] <ugx578> lamzr: it's too much to explain in IRC https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ECryptfs#Mounting
[15:01] <odisa> naj: this on a laptop?
[15:01] <ugx578> lamzr: skip to "Manual Setup"
[15:01] <CalimeroTeknik> under high IO load, ubuntu 12.04 hangs and takes 10 seconds to reply to a ping, can I solve this?
[15:01] <naj> i think so it sees the wireless connections but i can not connect to them
[15:02] <naj> yes
[15:02] <Aaruni> raub: I got my Lubuntu machine. Here is pastebin : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7623934/
[15:02] <CalimeroTeknik> it's like I'm back to windows XP SP1's process scheduler, damn
[15:02] <odisa> naj: Hmm.. did you do updates and upgrades already?
[15:02] <ugx578> lamzr: i realize it's not ubuntu but arch wiki's are usually dead on, and "Manual Setup" apply's directly to your case
[15:02] <trijntje> CalimeroTeknik, whats your kernel version?
[15:03] <CalimeroTeknik> 3.2
[15:03] <philinux> helpy;~ I looked at the pasetbin and it was not prefixed as root.e.g root@Aspire-Trusty:~#
[15:03] <naj> yes i did
[15:03] <odisa> naj: did it work with your prior OS?
[15:03] <naj> yes
[15:03] <trijntje> CalimeroTeknik, in that case I don't know, sorry
[15:04] <CalimeroTeknik> thanks anyway :)
[15:04] <lamrz> ugx578, at this point, I am supposed to enter my login password to the home folder that I seek access to, right? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7623940/
[15:04] <CalimeroTeknik> I'll be migrating that server to gentoo in a matter of weeks anyway, need up to date software, a stable system, the possibility to create packages
[15:04] <helpy> philinux,  your wish is my command http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7623944/
[15:05] <naj> the guy next to me could connect to the wi fi with his phone and i could not with this!
[15:05] <odisa> hmm not sure naj.. visual inspection of the wireless adapter would rule out that the antenna's became dislodged
[15:05] <ugx578> lamrz: ya the login to the full computer
[15:05] <ugx578> lamrz: user login on the full computer anyway
[15:05] <odisa> naj: would require a screwdriver though :P
[15:06] <philinux> helpy;~ odd that at the end
[15:06] <naj> it sees the wireless networks just i can not connect sais out of range
[15:06] <naj> OOOO
[15:06] <lamrz> ugx578, I have two OS running on the computer, and each has its own login password..which one of these should the password be?
[15:06] <odisa> it says that after attempting?
[15:07] <ugx578> lamrz: make sure your running that utility in the directory of the full computer, whatever that's mounted on
[15:07] <naj> any way thanks
[15:07] <ugx578> lamrz: and you want to type in the password to home directory your trying to recover, not the one that's already decrypted and sitting at /home/
[15:07] <YamakasY> man why is webdav and ldap so difficult
[15:08] <nikolam> One happy thought: After updating to 14.04 from 13.10, I don't need to go and click in network manager to make LAN connection work anymore.
[15:08] <nikolam> that was introduced later in 13.10
[15:08] <ugx578> nikolam: openvpn is broken in 14.04 nm lol
[15:08] <nikolam> so it seems gone in 14.04
[15:08] <lamrz> ugx578, all partitions are mounted, including that of the target OS
[15:08] <xtristan> in dpkg, can someone help me parse the package listing? nodejs=0.10.25~dfsg2-2ubuntu1 [package_name]=[version_number]~???
[15:08] <nikolam> ugx578, uh, is there a bug report about?
[15:09] <ugx578> nikolam: from years ago last time i checked
[15:09] <module000> openvpn isnt broken, it works fine with NM
[15:09] <nikolam> ugx578, uh, sound perfectly reasonable, to have old bugs not fixed.
[15:09] <streulma> hello, when will the 3.14 kernel be released to 14.04 officially? I know it is already in mainline kernel ppa.
[15:10] <ugx578> what was i thinking then.... that was pretty broad but something with openvpn and that gui is broken
[15:10] <streulma> ugx578 same problem
[15:10] <nikolam> oh, module000 , then what were you reffering to ugx578 ?
[15:10] <daftykins> streulma: releases don't tend to jump major kernel versions
[15:10] <module000> ugx578: what portion of the GUI is not working for you?
[15:10] <ugx578> the openvpn plugin for network-manager, i stopped using it because of that bug and learned the openvpn command line lol
[15:11] <streulma> ugx578: you can go to system preferences and then network and add openvpn
[15:11] <lamrz> ugx578, yes, I'm trying with the right home folder password, the cursor keeps blinking like, forever. does it take very long?
[15:11] <ugx578> i guess it's been so long i haven't switched back
[15:11] <Pici> xtristan: [package_name]=[software_version]~[dfsg(if repackaged w/o non-free elements)]-[debian_build_#]ubuntu[ubuntu_build_#]
[15:11] <nikolam> lol ugx578 maybe that's the way to learn more :
[15:11] <ugx578> maybe that bug was in 13.10 lol
[15:11] <module000> ugx578: it works fine, you have to keep in mind the plugin integrates with resolvconf/dnsmasq, which the command line cannot
[15:11] <nikolam> even better if we fix it
[15:12] <streulma> daftykins: what do you mean? Ubuntu 14.04 will never be officially upgraded to 3.14 ??
[15:12] <xtristan> @Pici thanks — the repackaged w/o non-free elements is super helpful.
[15:12] <nikolam> aha... it integrates.
[15:12] <ugx578> module000: ya I always had to modify the vpn configs to handle dns
[15:13] <xtristan> @Pici is there any way that I could programmatically predict that?  i'm writing server automation scripts and want to be able to query a package manager for a specific version
[15:13] <streulma> ugx578: I do it on server side, changing dns
[15:13] <daftykins> streulma: i don't know for sure, sometimes newer kernels in newer releases get backported, such as the LTS enablement stack for 12.04 - you'd have to check info on the site, nobody here is foficial to comment
[15:13] <daftykins> official too
[15:13] <module000> ugx578: everyone messes that part up. you have to send the push stanza for dns from the server side and the  NM will feed that into dnsmasq
[15:14] <Pici> xtristan: everything before the ~ should be the software version, which presumably what you really care about.  After that, you should be able to sort the results to find the most recent package.
[15:14] <module000> it isnt as intuitive as it could be though, some usability contributions would be nice for many uaers
[15:15] <ugx578> module000 i'd like to find a way to lock dns to interface
[15:15] <xtristan> Pici: it's headless, so would just be package=version_number ?
[15:15] <lamrz> ugx578, when I press 'enter' again while the cursor blinks, it gives this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7623987/
[15:15] <Pici> xtristan: That looks right to me
[15:16] <xtristan> Pici: Works for me.  I really appreciate your help and hope you have a good day
[15:16] <ugx578> lamrz: tail /var/syslog see if there's some more info, but it looks like it was the wrong password
[15:16] <Pici> xtristan: np :)
[15:16] <luckybunny> I don't expect anyone to know the answer to this but anyway. I have a package on my desktop that makes the terminal a little prettier by adding a better looking command line. Instead of user@host:~$, it has something more like ~>$>
[15:16] <ugx578> lamrz: that or the file's been damaged, then your sol
[15:16] <luckybunny> the question is, what the hell was that package called?
[15:17] <ugx578> lamrz: your running that as root right?
[15:17] <ugx578> lamrz: or sudo?
[15:17] <xtristan> luckybunny: you can use anything to set your shell variable, but perhaps you're thinking of oh-my-zsh?
[15:17] <luckybunny> actually, I should take a screenie
[15:18] <Pici> luckybunny: custom $PROMPT on bash, or zsh, or csh, or ksh, or sh, or fish or...
[15:18] <luckybunny> more like custom appearance of a regular prompt
[15:19] <six86> hello. I Have problems installing ubuntu 14.04 server. I'm getting the same error as shown here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/127398/usb-drive-install-of-ubuntu-12-04-server-fails-cant-find-components-from-cd-r
[15:19] <six86> But I am installing from a USB Pendrive
[15:19] <Vivekananda> can someone also help me with unity gnome interface. For all windows when maximized I see the three control buttons  ie close, min, max  but on resizing it to any other size I see only close and no max/min .   Is this expected .  this changed for me a couple of days back but not sure how
[15:19] <ugx578> luckybunny: turn the shell into facebook chat
[15:20] <lamrz> ugx578, yes, I ran 'sudo ecryptfs-recover-private'
[15:20] <luckybunny> http://i.imgur.com/Wmpipmu.png ignore the picture in the back, that's just my desktop background
[15:20] <ugx578> lamrz: if you actually setup the recovery passphrase instead of clicking cancel right after installation like everyone does, you could try that instead of your password, when it asks for login say no
[15:21] <ugx578> lamrz: then it'll ask you for the recovery passphrase lol
[15:21] <luckybunny> but right at the bottom, you'll see how the prompt looks different
[15:22] <ugx578> that's a pretty stylish command prompt lol
[15:22] <mojtaba> Hi, does anybody know how can I print to file from command line?
[15:23] <six86> hello. I Have problems installing ubuntu 14.04 server from a pen drive. I'm getting the same error as shown here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/127398/usb-drive-install-of-ubuntu-12-04-server-fails-cant-find-components-from-cd-r
[15:23] <nikolam> mojtaba, maybe just redirect with ">"   , commeand > file
[15:23] <ugx578> six86: try it with a different installer, unetbootin maybe
[15:24] <mojtaba> nikolam: I am looking for something to print in .pdf format.
[15:24] <ugx578> six86: it also looks like it's a bad iso all together, download another copy that isn't that version
[15:24] <luckybunny> so many years ago I installed it, and I've forgotten what it was called
[15:24] <luckybunny> lol
[15:25] <six86> ugx578: in fact it is a preseeded installation iso. But the error is strange. Did something change between 12.04 and 14.04 in respect of preseeding?
[15:25] <terminal__> http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2014-06-10_18_21_38-sdDcVkdN.png
[15:25] <terminal__> http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2014-06-10_18_23_19-npaXnxva.png
[15:25] <Aaruni> ok, I've upgraded Lubuntu to kernel 3.13. My ethernet is up, but my wi-fi says "device not ready (firmware missing)"
[15:25] <ObrienDave> Aaruni, which adapter?
[15:25] <terminal__> my GUI ubuntu not on settlement and disappear when enlargement
[15:26] <Aaruni> ObrienDave: RaLink 3290
[15:26] <TuxRescue> anybody with a clue why "apt-cache show" will not list tag information of debtags/packagesearch?
[15:26] <ugx578> six86: i honestly have no idea on that one
[15:26] <ObrienDave> Aaruni, not sure about that one
[15:26] <lamrz> ugx578, when I installed I didnt setup the recovery password, but is it the same as mount password that was just generated here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7623705/
[15:26] <nikolam> see commands from the application you want to print from. or use ghostscript, depending on input format
[15:26] <nikolam> mojtaba,
[15:27] <ugx578> lamrz: oh no lol
[15:27] <mojtaba> nikolam: thanks
[15:27] <ugx578> lamrz: you might have just overwritten your old keys with new ones
[15:27] <nikolam> there are many ways to do that, i usually like to go to alternativeto.net to see apps for linux
[15:27] <lamrz> ugx578, but it did ask me the mount passphrase when I said no to login password
[15:28] <lamrz> ugx578, and it says success now..I'll check!
[15:28] <Aaruni> ObrienDave: the support for that chip has been around since kernel 3.6, do you think Lubuntu is at fault here (ubuntu on the same hardware works), some files which are apt-gettable ?
[15:30] <ugx578> lamrz: i'm really hopping you don't open that to find an empty home directory .. lol
[15:30] <alimejri> hello i have a cumputer lenovo g580 a i have problem with wifi in ubuntu 12.04 i want ask you that fix in this version ?
[15:30] <lamrz> ugx578, it created on a /tmp location exactly the same contents of .Private folder, those 21 folders with long names
[15:32] <helmut_> hi
[15:32] <luckybunny> aha powerline
[15:32] <alimejri> hello i have a computer lenovo g580 a i have problem with wifi in ubuntu 12.04 i want ask you that fix in this version ?
[15:32] <ugx578> lamrz: i would try to log back into that full computer and see if you can pull a command prompt and see your stuff
[15:33] <genii> mojtaba: If you install the cups-pdf package, you can print to that device at the commandline with lp
[15:33] <lamrz> ugx578..sounds a better idea..I'll do it now
[15:33] <ugx578> lamrz: if your not full computer isn't encrypted you should be able to mount it without problems from the full computer's shell, then copy stuff over from the shell
[15:34] <alimejri> hello i have a computer lenovo g580 a i have problem with wifi in ubuntu 12.04 i want ask you that fix in this version ?
[15:34] <ugx578> lamrz: just dump it somewhere in the / directory or something, then when you log back into the not full computer you can mv it into the home directory
[15:35] <alimejri> hello i have a computer lenovo g580 a i have problem with wifi in ubuntu 12.04 i want ask you that fix in this version ?
[15:35] <mojtaba> genii: I installed it now. What do you mean by device?
[15:36] <mojtaba> genii: How should I use this command?
[15:37] <lamrz_> ugx578, because I'd started a process alongside, I have to wait for it to finish, then I'll login to the full system
[15:37] <genii> mojtaba: The manpages for lpoptions and lp give the syntax :) But first, do you see the PDF as a printer when you do:lpstat -p -d    ..?
[15:38] <daftykins> mojtaba: remind me, are you still running debian on a raspberry pi?
[15:38] <mojtaba> genii: Yes I saw that.
[15:39] <mojtaba> daftykins: Hi, It has some problems. (The hardware. :( )
[15:39] <daftykins> mojtaba: so you use ubuntu on something else? :)
[15:39] <mojtaba> daftykins: Yep
[15:39] <daftykins> good stuff
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: are you wanting a command line printer setting up in debian?
[15:40] <genii> mojtaba: Then in the simplest form:  lpr -P PDF filename-to-print-here
[15:40] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: Yes
[15:40] <mojtaba> genii: Thanks
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: then you need to ask in #debian
[15:40] <Flolila> how can i update my python version?
[15:40] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: It is ubuntu
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: this is ubuntu support
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: you said it was debian
[15:41] <genii> mojtaba: Also, ActionParsnip is correct in that if you are using something other than Ubuntu, you should enquire in the proper place for whatever you're actually using
[15:41] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: It was sth else (for the pi)
[15:41] <Flolila> Traceback (most recent call last):
[15:41] <Flolila>   File "/usr/bin/bleachbit", line 41, in <module>
[15:41] <Flolila>     import gtk
[15:41] <Flolila> ImportError: No module named gtk
[15:41] <mojtaba> genii: I am using ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue    on the pi?
[15:41] <Flolila> :(
[15:42] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: It is not running anymore. (some hardware prolems. )
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> Flolila: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue       I'll check for bugs
[15:42] <daftykins> certainly mojtaba has been guilty of asking for debian support in here before, for the Pi. perhaps not today though
[15:42] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: Thanks, but it is down now. I will run that and return back to you.
[15:43] <Flolila> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[15:44] <Flolila> ~$ python
[15:44] <Flolila> Python 2.6.9 (unknown, Jun  7 2014, 03:20:16)
[15:44] <Flolila> [GCC 4.8.2] on linux3
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> !info pygtk
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> !info pygtk saucy
[15:45] <genii> mojtaba: Oh, and the output from it will be put in: /var/spool/cups-pdf/<your-username>/    ..this can be changed as default by editing the /etc/cups/cups-pdf.conf file if needed
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> Flolila: http://bleachbit.sourceforge.net/forum/import-gtk-bleachbit-version-072-2    does that help (weird)
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> Flolila: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bleachbit/+bug/1014943
[15:46] <miccia> ciao
[15:46] <genii> mojtaba: The second place it usually wants to put the output is in a dir called PDF in your home dir
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> !info  python-gtk2
[15:46] <miccia> !list
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> Flolila: install  python-gtk2
[15:47] <mojtaba> genii: let me check that
[15:47] <Flolila> says i already have the newest version
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> Flolila: all I can suggest is the link I gave first, otherwise report a bug
[15:48] <mojtaba> genii: There is nothing in the /var... nor pdf directory in my home directory.
[15:48] <loa> what is way to change grub options?
[15:48] <holstein> !grub | loa
[15:48] <loa> i want add this line to boot parameters elevator=cfq
[15:49] <holstein> loa: i edit the config file
[15:49] <ugx578> !ecryptfs
[15:49] <loa> i remember that there is method for doing that without editing menu.lst
[15:49] <ugx578> !ecryptfs | ugx578
[15:49] <loa> some kind of ubuntu way...
[15:49] <ugx578> no ecryptfs : (
[15:49] <holstein> loa: sure.. on a per boot  basis, from the grub boot screen
[15:50] <mojtaba> genii: my bad, the PDF directory is there
[15:50] <Flolila> where does this come from
[15:50] <Flolila> (synaptic:3452): IBUS-WARNING **: The owner of /home/tristan/.config/ibus/bus is not root!
[15:51] <loa> holstein, so it is /etc/default/grub
[15:51] <loa> what command i must run after updating this file?
[15:51] <mojtaba> genii: Thank you very much
[15:52] <holstein> loa: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Custom_Menu_Entries is where i would start
[15:52] <loa> ah update-grub
[15:52] <loa> so smart...
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> loa: add it in /etc/default/grub   with the default boot options: quiet splash
[15:53] <ugx578> loa: i was wondering what it was too lol
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> loa: Ubuntu and Grub do not use menu.lst now
[15:53] <holstein> loa: there is a command "sudo update-grub".. but, i would read more before making an edit, and expecting it to work.. i woulld mess with one kernel entry at a time.. and try and leave a working one able to run.. i would understand how to run the recovery mode
[15:53] <TuxRescue> what can you do when your reputation is not good enough for askubuntu.com?
[15:53] <loa> ActionParsnip, i done this mess so many times, and always successfully forogotten
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> TuxRescue: http://questions.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[15:54] <TuxRescue> ActionParsnip: excuse me?
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> loa: thats how you add boot options in Grub2
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> ugx578: its a questions and answers forum
[15:54] <genii> mojtaba: You're welcome
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> TuxRescue: its a questions and answers forum
[15:55] <TuxRescue> ah
[15:56] <lamrz> ugx578, how will I try to access the command line?
[15:56] <ugx578> lamrz: once you get past the login screen you can try ctrl+alt+t
[15:57] <ugx578> lamrz: if that doesn't work you can try to switch to another tty which is ctrl+alt+f1 - f9, the gui is usually f6 or f7, all your going to have is one command prompt though, no gui
[15:58] <lamrz> ugx578, it doesnt work, but when I do ctrl+alt+f1, I get the command prompt
[15:58] <lamrz> ugx578, I meant ctrl+alt+t didnt work
[15:58] <ugx578> lamrz: that's probably all your going to get then, just pretend f1-f9 are your shell tabs now
[15:59] <ugx578> lamrz: it should be a lot easier to copy it out this way though, no decrypting anything
[16:00] <ugx578> lamrz: cd ~ && sudo cp -r * /(not full computer mountpoint)
[16:00] <ugx578> lamrz: df is the list of all the drives and where their mounted
[16:01] <ObrienDave> http://questions.launchpad.net/ubuntu server not found
[16:03] <Sagar> guys: http://pastebin.com/0wfriTW2
[16:03] <Sagar> hello
[16:03] <Sagar> how can i remove all xserver-xorg-input- packages/
[16:04] <Pici> ObrienDave: its https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ , not questions
[16:04] <Sagar> anyone??? http://pastebin.com/GF6BYWvB
[16:04] <ObrienDave> just following ActionParsnip's link ;)
[16:05] <holstein> Sagar: what are you trying to do? why are you removing x?
[16:05] <holstein> Sagar: you can always just not install them..
[16:05] <ugx578> that sounds like a bad idea lol
[16:05] <holstein> !Mini
[16:05] <SchrodingersScat> Sagar: have you read this? seems like the same error: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/1035517
[16:06] <holstein> Sagar: i would remove the proprietary graphics driver you installed first.. and any PPA's i would try and purge.. *then* address removing x ..or just fresh install mini or server iso without x
[16:07] <mouadh> hi
[16:07] <mouadh> i wanna start with some sdr
[16:09] <holstein> !info rtl-sdr
[16:09] <holstein> mouadh: id start there ^
[16:10] <jakemp> How do I add my own directory to places on the right of the file menu?
[16:11] <Sagar> SchrodingerScat: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/1035517 i saw this but how can i solve the issue? what should i type in shell?
[16:11] <Sagar> holstein: how can i do that?
[16:13] <holstein> Sagar: do what?
[16:13] <iptable> Sagar, try this: apt-get install build-essential linux-headers; apt-cache search nvidia
[16:13] <Sagar> [21:36] <holstein> Sagar: i would remove the proprietary graphics driver you installed first.. and any PPA's i would try and purge.. *then* address removing x ..or just fresh install mini or server iso without x
[16:14] <holstein> Sagar: remove the driver you installed? look in the package manager of your choice for what you installed and remove it
[16:14] <holstein> !info ppa-purge
[16:14] <holstein> Sagar: assuming you have any added.. or, just download  the iso for an operating system that doesnt have or ship x
[16:14] <iptable> Sagar, this will install requirements and display the nvidia drivers available to install. choose one and type in: apt-get install nvidia-331-updates (or whatever you are installing)
[16:14] <Sagar> iptable: http://pastebin.com/AAmQSqcX
[16:15] <Sagar> i want to remove the graphic drivers thought
[16:15] <iptable> Sagar, what is your uname -a?
[16:15] <Sagar> they are creating a bug, i want to remove VNC etc
[16:15] <Sagar> iptable: Linux bhm05 3.2.0-24-virtual #37-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 25 12:51:49 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[16:15] <holstein> Sagar: remove what you like. use the software manager of your chioce
[16:15] <holstein> choice*
[16:15] <Sagar> also iptable: aptitude: error while loading shared libraries: libept.so.1.0.5.4.12: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[16:16] <lamrz> ugx578, it took me a while :)...can I with a command see the mount point of not full computer?
[16:16] <iptable> Sagar, looks like you are running old kernel for which headers are no longer avialble in repos
[16:16] <iptable> Sagar, apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
[16:16] <ugx578> lamrz: if it's currently mounted you can see it with `df`
[16:16] <iptable> Sagar, once your kernel is upgraded to 3.13, THEN install build-essential and linux-headers and THEN the dirver.
[16:16] <iptable> Sagar, note: REBOOT after upgrading kernel
[16:17] <Fyodorovna> iptable, dist-upgrade needed for a kernel upgrade
[16:17] <iptable> Fyodorovna, for aptitude, yes, I believe apt-get will just upgrade the kernel, no? (I may be wrong)
[16:17] <Sagar> iptable: http://pastebin.com/ZJG94yPr
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> !away > shakayumi_afk
[16:18] <ugx578> lamrz: if it's not your going to mount it by hand as whatever it is in /dev/
[16:18] <ugx578> lamrz: *going to have to
[16:18] <iptable> Sagar, apt-get purge nvidia-304; apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:18] <iptable> Fyodorovna, no, you are right apparently ;)
[16:19] <Fyodorovna> iptable, not sure on aptitude dist-upgrade in apt-get
[16:19] <lamrz> ugx578, it is not in the output of df. how can I make it show the filesystem, so that I can find its name and mount it?
[16:19] <iptable> Fyodorovna, no idea, either upgrade or dist upgrade will work ;P Try one, try the other I say
[16:20] <Sagar> iptable: hope u know i want to remove x server / vnc etc i just want to run a normal server
[16:20] <holstein> Sagar: why not just install the server OS?
[16:20] <holstein> !server
[16:20] <iptable> Sagar, uhm, why not install a server distro then, like ubuntu-server?
[16:20] <holstein> Sagar: also, the mini link i gave gives an install that doesnt have x
[16:20] <iptable> Sagar, X is a bit of a spider-web, trying to remove it is NOT simple
[16:21] <Sagar> iptable: ok i will got with it then, just want to remove those stupid errors
[16:21] <iptable> Sagar, don't install a desktop distro and then remove 90% of things to get server. install server instead
[16:21] <holstein> i would consider it much easier to just not install it in the first place than try and remove it.. after having applied a proprietary graphics driver as well
[16:21] <iptable> Sagar, no, reinstall to ubuntu-server. download ISO, reinstall. Don't remove 100s of packages hoping you can convert desktop to server
[16:21] <ugx578> lamrz: apt-get install parted
[16:22] <ugx578> lamrz: sudo parted
[16:22] <lamrz> ugx578, when I type 'sudo mount /dev/sda1' it says 'can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab' ....so I should first install gparted?
[16:22] <Sagar> iptable: i dont have the vps panel to change os
[16:23] <ugx578> lamrz: (parted shell) print devices
[16:23] <holstein> Sagar: what os are you running?
[16:23] <ugx578> lamrz: not gparted, don't need it, no gui, just parted
[16:23] <holstein> Sagar: you may not be using ubuntu then.. if its a VPS supplied versio
[16:23] <Sagar> ubuntu 14.04
[16:23] <iptable> Sagar, ? vps panel?
[16:23] <holstein> version*
[16:23] <ugx578> lamrz: launch it with sudo parted after you install it, then the command to see all the devices and their sizes is print devices
[16:23] <Sagar> to change the os iptable
[16:23] <iptable> Sagar, you broke a desktop distro already trying to make it a server.
[16:23] <lamrz> upx578, oh, I overlooked, thank you :)
[16:24] <ugx578> lamrz: parted has it's own little shell
[16:24] <holstein> Sagar: you should ask the provider of the VPS for support..
[16:24] <iptable> Sagar, holstein++
[16:24] <ugx578> lamrz: that'll give you /dev/names and sizes
[16:24] <lamrz> ugx578, I'll do it now.. I have to disconnect shortly
[16:24] <Sagar> iptable: http://prntscr.com/3rhjlz
[16:25] <iptable> Sagar, that's postfix. "No configuration" will do.
[16:25] <Sagar> ok
[16:25] <lamrz> oh, parted is already installed, ugx578
[16:25] <iptable> Sagar, you will end up with a nasty install though, you do know that?
[16:25] <ugx578> lamrz: and you when you mount you have to mount with the -t switch for filesystem, `sudo mount -t /dev/sdb /media/notfullmount
[16:26] <Sagar> yes: iptable
[16:26] <iptable> I rest my case
[16:26] <ugx578> lamrz: i didn't add it lol `sudo mount -t (ext2/ext3/ext4) /dev/sdX /media/notfullmount
[16:26] <Sagar> iptable: http://prntscr.com/3rhkdq
[16:27] <iptable> Sagar, powerdns?
[16:27] <iptable> Sagar, that is something you installed
[16:27] <Sagar> Yep
[16:28] <iptable> Sagar, ok, I will give you best advice for life, really: 1. read what it says, 2. read what options you got, 3. choose best-informed-common-logic option. 4. return to point 1 if issue still not resolved
[16:28] <lamrz> ugx578, I'd then only need to find the path '/media/notfullmount'...will I find this in the output with commands and devices?
[16:28] <Sagar> lol :v
[16:28] <iptable> Sagar, really, can't fix it for you. I don't klnow what you modified and if you want your changes to remain or be wiped.
[16:28] <holstein> Sagar: you need to ask the maintainer of the OS that is provided.. check your sources and see what they have added.. if you are not using ubuntu, the volunteers here will not be ablt to assist much
[16:28] <Sagar> iptables --version :v
[16:29] <iptable> Sagar, 3.1.9
[16:29] <Sagar> :) :D
[16:29] <ugx578> lamrz: the mountpoint can be whatever you want it too, the idea is your mapping the not full sdX to a folder somewhere, you can stick it wherever you want, /media is kindof the place for mounts
[16:30] <ugx578> lamrz: /media/something, you have to make it first though with mkdir
[16:30] <ugx578> lamrz: otherwise it'll complain and not mount because no folder exists
[16:31] <lamrz> ugx578, i already not which /dev/sdaX the partition is..so I can freely make-up a /media/notfullmount path, is it correct?
[16:31] <lamrz> ugx578, sorry, just saw your following posts :)
[16:31] <ugx578> lamrz: this thing is complicated
[16:32] <iptable> lamrz, example: mkdir /root/some/directory; mount /dev/sdb3 /root/some/directory
[16:32] <lamrz> ugx578, and the /dev/sdaX is the partition of not full home folder, right?
[16:32] <iptable> lamrz, assuming you got sdb3, the above will actually work
[16:32] <lamrz> or /dev/sdbX
[16:32] <lamrz> or /dev/sdb3
[16:33] <Sagar> Worked perfect!
[16:33] <Sagar> Thanks iptable :)
[16:33] <ugx578> lamrz: no that's going to get you all of / the whole drive, your home directory will actually be encrypted and you'll have the same pain in the ass
[16:33] <iptable> lamrz, /dev/sdYX - these are actual partitions. when you mount, a driver reads a filesystems and puts it's contents i na directory for you to access.
[16:33] <Sagar> Server is fine now!
[16:33] <iptable> lamrz, /dev/sda, dev/sdb - your drives. the numbers behind are respective partitions on each drive
[16:33] <ugx578> lamrz: the idea is you'll just copy the crap you want to move to /somewhere and then log back into the computer with free space and move it from /somewhere to /home
[16:33] <iptable> lamrz, /dev/sdb3 - partitino no 3 on drive /dev/sdb (2nd drive)
[16:34] <iptable> Sagar, no problem
[16:34] <Sagar> ^
[16:34] <ugx578> i can't figure out a way to put this into words lol
[16:35] <clamiax> hi
[16:35] <gcbirzan> is there a way to get 3.14 on Unbutu?
[16:35] <Tin_man> i was on earlier having a usb drive problem.  I've been to many forums, and still can't resolve the problem, I've a sandisk cruzer glide 32gig.  everything I run in Ubuntu 14.04 file system start up disk creator, etc says it's full, (its empty), I've reformatted it in several different formats, ext4, ntsf, fat, etc.. everything thanks it's full.  If i try and delete the invisible files in disk creator, get a error message.. If i boot a puppy, like Slacko, o
[16:35] <Tin_man> r Precise, they recognize it, and can read, write etc... any clue as to what i need to resolve this?
[16:35] <gcbirzan> obviously, bar compiling it myself
[16:35] <iptable> gcbirzan, yes, wait a few days
[16:35] <clamiax> I'm trying to output the audio to my HDMI tv. I've already make it works with video by using xrandr but I still had no luck with audio. Surfing the net didn't helped yet. Does anyone have some clue? Thanks!
[16:36] <SchrodingersScat> Tin_man: are you sure it's not dead, jim?
[16:36] <clamiax> FWIW, I'm on Ubuntu Server 14.04.
[16:36] <gcbirzan> Unfortunately, we're trying to see if our own kvm patch broke things in 3.13, or if it's broken in 3.14 as well, so it's kind of urgent. guess I'll compile it myself :P
[16:36] <Tin_man> works fine in puppy linux
[16:36] <iptable> gcbirzan, I believe 3.14 is still in RC. Have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2214103
[16:36] <holstein> gcbirzan: 3.14 what? you can try a PPA..
[16:36] <iptable> 3.14 kernel
[16:36] <lamrz> iptable, ugx578..I know, /dev/sdb (or in my case, /dev/sda) is the whole disk, and /dev/sdbX is any partition on it. supposing my 'not full' folder is /dev/sda1, and the full folder is /dev/sda2, is this command correct: sudo mount -t (ext2/ext3/ext4) /dev/sda1 /media/mynotfullone ?
[16:37] <holstein> there are mainline .deb packages..
[16:37] <Tin_man> only about 2 months old , used very little
[16:37] <iptable> lamrz, mkdir /media/mynotfullone; mount /dev/sda1 /media/mynotfullone
[16:37] <ugx578> lamrz ya that's right, and /media/mynotfullone is actuall going to be / when you loginto the not full computer
[16:37] <Tin_man> i'll just keep trying
[16:38] <gcbirzan> holstein: Sorry, I implied that. :)
[16:38] <gcbirzan> iptable: I'll try that, thanks!
[16:38] <iptable> gcbirzan, you will not know if it breaks the 3.14 that ubuntu releases
[16:38] <iptable> gcbirzan, but go for it
[16:38] <gcbirzan> iptable: We don't really care, we can reinstall machines at will, but want to know this is not a thing with 3.14 too :P
[16:38] <gcbirzan> anyway, thanks, let's see how this goes
[16:38] <lim-ladm> hello, has anyone experience over  the e1000 bug with dropped packages on a intel 82574L Gigabit NIC?
[16:38] <iptable> gcbirzan, if it's broken in 3.13, it's probably broken in 3.14
[16:38] <holstein> gcbirzan: the mainline .debs might be simple for you.. if its just a testing scneario
[16:39] <OerHeks> lim-ladm, that is an old but still current issue with e1000
[16:39] <dj_beirut> hi. i am having a problem installing BT keyboard. when i do: bluez-simple-agent hci0 E0:2A:82:2A:40:D0 it says: Creating device failed: org.bluez.Error.ConnectionAttemptFailed: Page Timeout
[16:39] <iptable> clamiax, what graphics card?
[16:39] <lamrz> iptable, you mean the command is correct without -t and (ext2/ext3/ext4) ?
[16:40] <dj_beirut> anyone  can help?
[16:40] <holstein> dj_beirut: has anything used bluetooth in linux on that machine? have you connected the keyboard to supported bt hardware and operating system? to confirm its functioning?
[16:40] <_TeO_> .
[16:40] <dj_beirut> holstein i have connected the keyboard to several other laptops including this one when it was om windows 7 and it was working perfectly.
[16:41] <holstein> dj_beirut: so, you can assume the device is functioning properly.. how about the bluetooth radio on the machine? is it working with *any* bt device in linux?
[16:42] <clamiax> iptable: Intell 3rd Gen
[16:42] <dj_beirut> holstein i have not tested other bt devices because i don't have any others. but the radio is supposed to be working since it was working when windows was installed earlier today
[16:43] <holstein> dj_beirut: no.. thats not something you can assume.. you have 2 devices, that i see, that are not promised to work in linux.. the BT keyboard *and* the BT hardware on the machine.. i would want to make sure to test the BT on the machien as well, and not assume the keyboard supporting linux is the issue
[16:44] <holstein> dj_beirut: the fact that it works in windows, as promised, can only tell you the device is not broken, and likely funcitoning properly..
[16:44] <designbybeck> How do I setup hot corners in 14.04? I thought Ubuntu Tweak had it in there?
[16:44] <dj_beirut> holstein ok.. what do you want me to test.
[16:44] <holstein> dj_beirut: im just saying what i would test.. i would test the BT on the device in linux.. seperate from the keyboard.. you are saying the keyboard doesnt work, and im saying, you dont know that the BT works in general
[16:45] <lamrz> ugx578, the command includes -t and (ext2/ext3/ext4), is that correct?
[16:45] <lim-ladm> OerHeks: but a error or not?
[16:45] <dj_beirut> hostein how can i test if the BT is working?
[16:45] <ugx578> lamrz ya but just one of ext2 or ext3 or ext4 depending on what it is and no ()
[16:45] <holstein> dj_beirut: i would use a device that i know works with bt in linux..
[16:46] <lamrz> ugx578, thank you!
[16:46] <ugx578> lamrz: `mount -t ext3 /dev/sda /mntpoint` if it was ext3
[16:46] <dj_beirut> hostein hcitool scan
[16:46] <dj_beirut> Scanning ...
[16:46] <dj_beirut>         00:07:61:73:E7:50       Logitech diNovo Edge
[16:46] <lamrz> ugx578, I see, ok
[16:46] <holstein> !paste | dj_beirut
[16:47] <dj_beirut> sry about that
[16:47] <holstein> dj_beirut: that doesnt mean that the BT is working, though.. and you were not promised linux support.. so, i would still test
[16:48] <lamrz> ugx578, now I see the not full folder mounted
[16:48] <ugx578> lamrz: great now you can copy crap into there
[16:48] <lamrz> ugx578, with this command:  cd ~ && sudo cp -r * /(not full computer mountpoint) ?
[16:50] <iptable> dj_beirut, to test if your bluetooth is working, connect it to your phone and check if you can make calls
[16:50] <neilbad> hello
[16:50] <ugx578> lamrz: ya that should do it, but that will do your whole directory so you've gotta have space, also you should probably make a folder in notfullmount/(dump) for orginization or it's going to be scattered all over your / when you log into the not full computer
[16:50] <iptable> dj_beirut, to check if your bluetooth on the PC is working, pair with phone and try to send/receive data
[16:50] <neilbad> who knows PHPUnit here?
[16:51] <iptable> dj_beirut, THEN try to use headset BT with computer
[16:51] <holstein> dj_beirut: i agree with iptable .. if you have a BT capable phone, thats likely the easiest
[16:51] <iptable> slash-me goes to eat dinner.
[16:52] <neilbad> who knows PHPUNIT here?
[16:52]  * lemonzai1e 'waves hello to all'
[16:52] <neilbad> ;-)
[16:52] <kalen> neilbad: you'd probably have more success in a php room
[16:52] <lamrz> ugx578, can I avoid it doing the whole directory? considering the possibility that even removing 1GB will free the access to the currently full one.
[16:53] <neilbad> kalen: thanks =)
[16:53] <ugx578> lamrz ya just use cd and ls to navigate around and sudo cp to copy
[16:53] <dj_beirut> holstein hmm.. that is possible. i will try that now. but when i run the hcitool dev i get: hci0    E0:2A:82:2A:40:D0
[16:54] <iptable> dj_beirut, discovered doesn't mean working/compatible. paired also doesn't mean working/compatible.
[16:54] <dj_beirut> holstein And when i run bluez-simple-agent hci0 E0:2A:82:2A:40:D0 i get the error: Creating device failed: org.bluez.Error.ConnectionAttemptFailed: Page Timeout
[16:54] <dj_beirut> what does that have anything with the keyboard or the bt smart phone?
[16:54] <lamrz> ugx578, can I not apply the same procedures on the terminal that I'm using now?
[16:54] <iptable> dj_beirut, bluez is known to bug though, tried other GUI tools?
[16:55] <dj_beirut> iptable i don't have gui
[16:55] <iptable> dj_beirut, paid the thing to a phone and see if the thing actually works
[16:55] <dj_beirut> it's a headless box
[16:55] <ugx578> lamrz: ya just do what your doing, pain not to have the gui up
[16:55] <dj_beirut> iptable how do i pair from command line?
[16:56] <iptable> dj_beirut, ok, hold. what ahre the actual devices you a pairing? One is a linux box, and the other?
[16:56] <lamrz> ugx578, I was wondering if I could select a file to be deleted from where I am now on the terminal..this would free up enough space (3GB)
[16:56] <dj_beirut> iptables a bluetooth keyboard. Lenovo Edge
[16:56] <dj_beirut> iptable a bluetooth keyboard. Lenovo Edge
[16:57] <iptable> dj_beirut, pair the keyboard to your phone and see if the BT keyboard actually works.
[16:57] <holstein> dj_beirut: i would test with a live CD, if i didnt want to install the GUI
[16:57] <iptable> dj_beirut, and if it does, THEN pair some headset or something else that is known to work with linux with that headless box, if THAT works, THEN try to pair the keyboard to the box
[16:57] <ugx578> lamrz: ya, rm (file), rm -r (directory) that will go recursive and wipe the entire thing , if it complains with permissions try sudo rm -rf
[16:57] <bjorkintosh> so when i connect any USB storage device to my laptop, the whole thing freezes and must be restarted.
[16:58] <bjorkintosh> whether it's a thumbdrive, a flash drive, an external harddrive or my nano.
[16:58] <bjorkintosh> and it's been happening since i upgraded to 14
[16:58] <iptable> dj_beirut, in other words: 1. test and confirm the keyboard works, 2. test and confirm that BT in the server works, 3. try to pair the 2 together
[16:58] <iptable> slash-me goes to neighbour for some cake. laters
[16:59] <bjorkintosh> is there a reason it would do that?
[16:59] <lamrz> ugx578..I was telling about wiping one file.
[16:59] <lamrz> is it possible?
[16:59] <dj_beirut> iptable i just testet the BT keyboard to the phone and it works fine
[17:01] <lamrz> so I can delete not the whole directory but a single file if I use rm (file) somewhere in the command?
[17:01] <Pupeno> Any ideas how to grep for a string containing symbols? http://serverfault.com/questions/604135/how-do-i-match-a-string-with-symbols-in-a-grep-kind-of-way
[17:03] <Fyodorovna> !rm | lamrz
[17:04] <Brunch> Hello!
[17:05] <Brunch> I'm surprised, there sure is a lot of people here...
[17:05] <lamrz> ugx578, when I'm already got stuck because of the full folder, I dont want to cause further problems. I'm not advanced enough to know the rm command. just wondering if there is no other way to delete just a single file to make the partition breathe again.
[17:05] <lamrz> if there is any other way, I mean
[17:05] <ugx578> lamrz: ya it's just rm (file)
[17:05] <Fyodorovna> lamrz, where is the file?
[17:06] <lamrz> Fyodorovna, the file is in one of the subfolders of the full home folder.
[17:07] <Fyodorovna> lamrz, Boot a live dvd/usb open home and delete.
[17:07] <lamrz> Fyodorovna, I can see its exact path via ls
[17:07] <iptable> bjorkintosh, that would be udev rules freaking out. anything over that, someone else will have to assist in troubleshooting them, or ping me in 16 hours. I'm off
[17:07] <romba> Hey guys I need some help with pulse audio on UBUNTU 14.04 - How can i disable the microphone autogain ?
[17:07] <lamrz> Fyodorovna, we've been using command line with ugx578, because home folder wasnt accessible via GUI, as it had a passphrase.
[17:08] <Fyodorovna> lamrz, Ah, encryption, lol, perfect example why people should not be using it unless really needed.
[17:09] <lamrz> Fyodorovna, thank you.
[17:09] <Fyodorovna> thanks for the info
[17:09] <Slart> romba: that's probably an alsa setting.. I don't think pulseaudio does that kind of stuff
[17:09] <lamrz> will someone help me to proceed from the point I am?
[17:09] <Slart> romba: try running   alsamixer    in a terminal
[17:10] <romba> Slart, :  Ok, if it's ALSA, where should i be looking ?
[17:10] <lamrz> ugt578, understandably you're busy. maybe someone else can help me bring it to the end?
[17:10] <lamrz> ugx578,  understandably you're busy. maybe someone else can help me bring it to the end?
[17:10] <romba> Slart, i've already checked the alsamixer, but there's no option to disable it
[17:11] <Slart> romba: well.. then I don't really know.. if alsa doesn't know how to do it you might be out of luck. Can't you just turn the recording volume down to compensate?
[17:12] <romba> Slart, on the other hand the real issue is when i'm trying to make VoIP calls with viber linux client, where as the microphone volume keeps changing automatically, and viber uses WEBRTC
[17:12] <Slart> romba: Are you sure that it's not the voip client that changes the volume?
[17:12] <lamrz> will someone help me please?
[17:13] <Slart> romba: or it does the same thing when you're just using the microphone for regular sound recording?
[17:13] <romba> Slart,  it could possibly be the client, as i don't see a problem with skype calls or any other app
[17:13] <romba> Slart,  i haven't really tried normal recording applications
[17:13] <skinux> How can I merge Ubuntu's partition with an unallocated partition or Ext4 partition?
[17:14] <ugx578> lamrz: sorry was away if you want to delete a file you literally have to use the rm command
[17:14] <lamrz> ugx578. I never used it.
[17:15] <romba> Slart,  some how the volume level always settle at the top edge of the software amplified level
[17:15] <Slart> romba: I'm looking through the viber documentation at the moment.. haven't really found anything yet
[17:15] <lamrz> ugx578, I know where the file to be deleted is.
[17:16] <Slart> romba: there are no volume settings in viber like there is in skype?
[17:16] <romba> Slart,  i just assumed if we can disable the automatic gain, it will settle at the normal maximum volume level
[17:16] <romba> Slart,  there are just two controls to control input and output volume, nothing about gains or noise cancellations or any
[17:17] <OerHeks> lamrz, what is holding you back ? rm /path/to/file
[17:17] <Slart> romba: what sound card are you using?
[17:17] <lamrz> OerHeks..I didnt know the command, so didnt know it was that simple..
[17:18] <motasem> hi ...i dont know this is what ?
[17:18] <lamrz> OerHeks, and, also, enough things went wrong recently..
[17:19] <Trudko> guys should I put aliases into ~/.bashrc or ~/.bashrc_aliases?
[17:19] <Trudko> does it matter?
[17:19] <TerranceWarrior> Whats a good scanner for detailed sketchart under Linux? (around $130). I'm only finding scanner listings from 2003.
[17:20] <lamrz> ugx578, I deleted it from the folder, must I delete it from trash folder, too, for the OS to have free space again?
[17:21] <holstein> TerranceWarrior: i would just search a web search for art, and images
[17:21] <romba> Slart, it says IDT 92HD87B1/3
[17:22] <e^> can u mass comment on gedit?
[17:22] <TuxRescue> e^: colaborative editing you mean?
[17:22] <Slart> romba: apple?
[17:23] <romba> Slart, no intel
[17:23] <e^> TuxRescue: like selecting a bunch of lines and commenting them all at once
[17:23] <romba> Slart,  this is my personal laptop Dell N5110
[17:23] <genii> Trudko: Compartmentalizing them into their own file is considered best practice.
[17:23] <sjmikem> Why does alt-tab to terminal work very inconsistently for me?
[17:24] <TuxRescue> e^: sounds like a job for sed
[17:24] <e^> TuxRescue: ok thanks
[17:26] <lamrz> ugx578, the problem is solved. thank you very much for your day-long help!
[17:26] <lamrz> OerHeks, thank you very much!
[17:26] <Slart> romba: you're not running anything else at the same time? like skype or google talk?
[17:26] <romba> no, i've skype installed but no google talk
[17:27] <romba> Slart,  i read some posts about google-talk settings alteration to stop the automatic gain, but the files did not exist as i don't have the google talk :)
[17:28] <Slart> romba: hmm.. I can't find anything about viber auto-adjusting recording volume.. there are some stuff about google talk and plenty of stuff about skype fiddling with the volume settings..
[17:28] <romba> Slart,  yea i'm also troubled coz skype works perfectly here
[17:28] <Slart> romba: and nothing about your laptop model doing it either.. not really sure where to look
[17:29] <Slart> romba: and it's not skype running in the background messing things up?
[17:29] <romba> Slart,  anyway to disable the microphone amplification on ALSA
[17:29] <romba> Slart,  100% positive it's not skype in background, i've already checked that one
[17:30] <Slart> romba: yes, it's in the  alsamixer thing.. if your soundcard supports it there is a on/off switch for microphone boost and a volume slider for microphone input
[17:30] <Eeinn> Hello, I have a bit of a stupid question. My fonts looks really really nice on Xubuntu, but my conky background fonts look crappy in comparison. Any place I can start to look to clean it up some?
[17:32] <romba> Slart,  there's no ON/OFF option, but i set the internal mic gain to 0
[17:35] <Slart> romba: here's what it looks like on my computer http://i60.tinypic.com/2zg87b9.png  just for comparison
[17:36] <Guest9509> quiet
[17:36] <Guest9509> oitora kiba achos...awaj de koilam
[17:41] <Lope> I'm running this on a VM: "nc -l > /dev/null" and I'm running this on the host: "dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=1 | nc 192.168.122.85 20000". but the command on the host finishes instantly without any response or anything at all.
[17:41] <romba> Slart,  this is how mine look http://tinypic.com/r/qp57wk/8
[17:42] <Slart> romba: what is the "Auto-Mute Mode" ?
[17:42] <heph> do y`all know that the raring mirror for us-west-2.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com is returning 403 errors?
[17:42] <romba> Slart,  i suspect it's a mode which automatically powers down mic, headphone when not in use?
[17:43] <heph> it started yesterday afternoon, i assumed someone would have tried to fix it by now
[17:43] <redondos> hi. this command is still prompting me if i want to replace a configuration file. am i missing something? apt-get -q -y -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-overwrite" install nginx=1:1.6.0-3.4.0.44~precise1
[17:43] <Slart> romba: what was the original problem? sound to loud? to quiet?
[17:44] <romba> Slart,  ahh just figured out :D that automatic mode is used to switch the speakers turn off when a headphone is connected lol, i can play both speakers and headphones at once when it's disabled :D
[17:44] <Slart> romba: ahhh.. clever =)
[17:46] <romba> Slart,  well the microphone volume automatically moves up, and lot of attenuation and distortions appear in the received audio
[17:46] <helpy> I am trying to use aircrack and has successfully gotten to the point where i have airdump ivs
[17:46] <helpy> however i cant use aireplay with it
[17:46] <helpy> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7624642/
[17:46] <helpy> can someone please help ?
[17:46] <romba> Slart, it comes back to normal when i lower the mic volume to natural level i.e. no automatic gain
[17:47] <Slart> romba: ah.. I see
[17:48] <Slart> romba: well.. I can't find anything at all about viber auto-adjusting anything.. nor can I find anything about your laptop and auto-adjusting.. I don't really know what to suggest. Perhaps ask in a viber forum/irc-channel? there has to be other linux users out there using the same software
[17:50] <kiko_> join #ubuntu-uds-plenary
[17:50] <Slart> romba: I'm guessing it's either the viber software (or something else running on your system) or alsa.. I don't think pulseaudio is to blame for this
[17:53] <romba> Slart, yeah that seems to good idea, anyway in this config everything works fine problem comes only when the slider goes in to upper half of the amplified section http://tinypic.com/r/2b7k3k/8
[17:54] <heph> How can I get support on the ubuntu mirrors? The us-west-2 ec2 mirror is horked at the moment
[17:54] <heph> returning 403's, guessing someone did an upload but forgot to fix the s3 permissions
[17:54] <heph> so, who manages those?
[17:54] <JustSighDUdes> Curious, how do I know what version a package is? It has those weird 1.0.3-ubuntu5 version numbers. I'm just curious if a vulnerabilitiy has been patched or not.
[17:55] <Pici> heph: you may want to ask in #ubuntu-server as well, those folks usually are up on ec2 status things
[17:56] <heph> Pici: thanks! =)
[17:57] <helpy> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7624642/
[17:57] <helpy> can someone please help ?
[17:59] <e^> helpy: a bit off topic, use --ignore-negative-one
[17:59] <helpy> how to do that?
[18:00] <genii> helpy: You should also be asking in the proper channel for your distribution, and that would be the #backtrack-linux channel
[18:00] <helpy> backtrackx is the hostname genii not the distro
[18:00] <helpy> i am on ubuntu 14.04
[18:00] <genii> helpy: Ah, understood.
[18:01] <trism> JustSighDUdes: if you are curious what the patches are look at the changelog, /usr/share/doc/package-name/changelog.Debian.gz
[18:01] <kirankumar> sir last day , i upgrade my ubuntu new version , after not work properly .
[18:01] <e^> helpy: add --ignore-negative-one to the end of the command.
[18:02] <holstein> kirankumar: try booting the older kernel in the grub list
[18:02] <kirankumar> sir some times my screen display a dots(.)
[18:03] <kirankumar> @holstein : sir how ?
[18:03] <qballer> Hey Guys, I
[18:03] <holstein> kirankumar: in your grub list, you should see the older kernel.. select and boot it..
[18:04] <qballer> I've just installed ubuntu 14.04 on my Dell Vostro 3500 and the wifi isn't really responding. Can anyone help?
[18:04] <kirankumar> @holstein ; it solve my problem sure. sir
[18:05] <pavlos> qballer, go to system settings | device driver and select the broadcom wirelss driver to install
[18:05] <qballer> it says this "(1) Creating object for path '/org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/ActiveConnection/32' failed in libnm-glib."
[18:06] <kirankumar> @holstein sir when web browser it also display a dot like as hang i have need restart . this is very serius problem
[18:07] <pavlos> qballer, from a term run lspci and give us the one line that refers to your wireless device
[18:08] <holstein> kirankumar: with the older kernel?
[18:08] <qballer> pavlos: here you go
[18:08] <qballer>  Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[18:08] <kirankumar> ok sir i try
[18:09] <pavlos> qballer, that chipset is supported. Back to my first suggestion, do you see in the device drivers an option to install a broadcom driver?
[18:09] <LHW> connect localhost 6667
[18:10] <qballer> Thats the thing, I'm in system setting. Can't see the device driver
[18:10] <pavlos> qballer, running 14.04 desktop?
[18:11] <qballer>  lsb_release -a
[18:11] <qballer> No LSB modules are available.
[18:11] <qballer> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[18:11] <qballer> Description:	Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[18:11] <qballer> Release:	14.04
[18:11] <qballer> Codename:	trusty
[18:11] <unopaste> qballer you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[18:12] <pavlos> qballer, dont paste many lines, if more than a line then you use pastebin and show us the url
[18:12] <qballer> Ok. sorry for the flod
[18:12] <qballer> flood
[18:12] <pavlos> qballer, the bot gets upset :)
[18:13] <qballer> Yes... Don't want to annoy the bot. :\
[18:13] <qballer> So, it's 14.04
[18:13] <pavlos> qballer, booting my laptop to see that screen
[18:13] <qballer> Thanks mate.
[18:15] <lamrz_> ugx578, thank you for your help today, again!
[18:16] <pavlos> qballer, click on Dash, search for device driver. Do you see any results?
[18:17] <qballer> pavlos, nope (I might be coming off as really stupid. )
[18:17] <e^> pavlos: isn't it additional drivers?
[18:17] <qballer> e^:  I have that!
[18:18] <pavlos> qballer, yes, run that
[18:18] <pavlos> qballer, the last tab is Additional drivers and there should be something to select a broadcom driver
[18:19] <pavlos> e^, correct
[18:19] <qballer> Using Broadcom 802.11 Linux sta wireless driver. It is selected.
[18:19] <flux242> hi, what IM software are you using? I want to switch from pidgin. As far as firefox uses gstremer1.0 and pidgin has dependency to the 0.10
[18:19] <pavlos> qballer, so there should be a list of networks on the top right of your screen
[18:23] <romba> Slart, thanks anyways mate ;) i already sent a mail to viber support, let's see their explanation. Tc Bye
[18:26] <qballer> pavlos:  when I choose a network it says this http://paste.ubuntu.com/7624833/
[18:26] <perlsaiyan> why does ubuntu show vsyscall32 and suse show vsyscall32 and vsyscall64 on same host?
[18:27] <ilithium> Evenin' all :)
[18:27] <Glorfindel> hello
[18:27] <qballer> Ola
[18:28] <ilithium> I've a new install of ubuntu server 14.04 and, as root, when I try to su to another user via "su foo -" I get an odd message: "bash: cannot set terminal process group (-1): Inappropriate ioctl for device
[18:28] <ilithium> bash: no job control in this shell " - Can someone explain what this means in English?
[18:28] <ilithium> Hey Glorfindel, qballer - how're you guys?
[18:28] <qballer> Bad--- Wifi will not work
[18:29] <qballer> Besides that all good.
[18:29] <pavlos> qballer, try those 2 commands in http://hich-em.org/2014/05/10/problem-in-my-3g-modem-connection-activation-failed-in-14-04/
[18:29] <ilithium> Argh - wifi#fail = really irritating
[18:29] <Glorfindel> Doing good ilithium :)
[18:29] <ilithium> Good to hear Glorfindel :)
[18:31] <qballer> pavlos: modemmanger is latest and he can't find sudo apt-get install usb_modeswitch
[18:32] <qballer> Hmm... I used to have ubuntu 12.04 on this very computer ... something changed. This is a scratch install.
[18:33] <holstein> !info usb_modeswitch
[18:34] <qballer> This is a laptop, so shouldn't this be unrelated to the USB? as the Wifi card  is internal.
[18:34] <pavlos> qballer,searching for a solution...
[18:34] <qballer> Thanks pavlos
[18:35] <e^> qballer: give "sudo service networkmanager restart" a try who knows
[18:36] <qballer> it might kick me off here ... If so I will be back :D
[18:37] <winb> .
[18:37] <qballer> networkmanager: unrecognized service
[18:37] <qballer> I did sudo service networking restart  and it failed to stop
[18:42] <pavlos> qballer, it is network-manager (dash in between)
[18:42] <pavlos> qballer, sudo service network-manager status
[18:42] <qballer> network-manager start/running, process 883
[18:43] <qballer> didn't help
[18:43] <qballer> the restart, e^ (I added a dash)
[18:44] <e^> ok
[18:45] <qballer> does it help the this path "/org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/ActiveConnection/2" doesn't exist?
[18:46] <pavlos> qballer, have you done a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade so we have a sync system?
[18:46] <qballer> Will do...
[18:47] <qballer> This connecton is wired from my cell phone so.. it will take time
[18:52] <e^> qballer: try to go to edit connections, select connection, edit, wifi security, enter the password and click save, then reconnect
[18:53] <hessu> Hello
[18:53] <asdofindia> hello hessu
[18:53] <hessu> Any tips how to install amd drivers on laptop that has two gpus?
[18:54] <samthewildone> for the past couple of days I've been getting freezings and crashing of alot of programs with ubuntu.
[18:54] <samthewildone> wondering is this is a bad install..
[18:54] <holstein> samthewildone: or a failing piece of hardware..
[18:55] <hessu> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4225/4250]
[18:55] <hessu> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Madison [Mobility Radeon HD 5650/5750 / 6530M/6550M]
[18:55] <hessu> these are the gpus that I have
[18:55] <holstein> !ati | hessu
[18:55] <samthewildone> holstein, non of this was happening when windows 7 was installed ...
[18:55] <holstein> samthewildone: ok..
[18:56] <holstein> samthewildone: i usually test with live CD's to remove the current os from the equation.. ill use the guest account or another user to test user configs.. i'll look for and apply upgrades.. i'll start applications from the terminal and ask about errors there
[18:58] <qballer> So what do you guys use to code C++ in Linux land ? Did some C a couple of years ago. Hailing from years of windows Vim isn't the thing for me.
[18:58] <qballer> (Even though people who use vim/emacs look like they work really fast)
[18:58] <robynata> 8-)
[18:59] <mexi_d3> qballer: There are IDE. For example jetbrains or eclipse.
[18:59] <mexi_d3> qballer: Pretty much the same tools on windows: most of them are crossplatform.
[19:00] <robynata> :-D
[19:00] <flux242> qballer: sublime tex
[19:00] <flux242> t
[19:00] <qballer> On windows Visual Studio is the best. I was thinking on doing things the Linux way... Like shell toolchain. From what I read, I need to break free from windows way of thinking.
[19:00] <mexi_d3> shell toolchain works fine on windows too :-)
[19:01] <qballer> True.
[19:01] <flux242> for small project I use sublime. It's fast and does well project management
[19:01] <mexi_d3> qballer: I've been killing processes in windows using shell for a while
[19:01] <flux242> eclipse is too heavy and takes ages to start
[19:01] <nowthatsamatt> If one apt repository fails how can I make it use a secondary choice?  Like when http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ fails, I would like to use http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/.
[19:02] <qballer> pavlos: I'm all synced ;) just for you!
[19:02] <mexi_d3> eclipse has similar features to Visual studio
[19:02] <mexi_d3> they start up in about the same time :-)
[19:02] <flux242> sublime text has vim mode too!
[19:02] <qballer> I will rephrase my question - What do you use.
[19:02] <mexi_d3> qballer: emacs and pycharm
[19:03] <mexi_d3> qballer: pycharm doesn't work for c++
[19:03] <flux242> sublime, eclipse
[19:03] <mexi_d3> qballer: Sublime is very similar to notepad++
[19:03] <qballer> Sounds like a python thing... :D
[19:03] <hessu> omg network dropped the connection
[19:03] <qballer> still no go.
[19:03] <mexi_d3> eclipse is a full c++ ide though
[19:04] <mexi_d3> I presume you need an integrated debugger, and code completion, etc?
[19:04] <qballer> Damn wifi used to work on last time I used. Ubuntu, problem is in *nix enviorments I don't know where to start. For to long I've been in the microsoft golden cage.
[19:04] <kalen> I really like jetbrains products, PhpStorm is awesome
[19:04] <mexi_d3> jetbrains resharper is amazing for c#
[19:05] <gru> im trying to find some scanner drivers for a canon mx472
[19:05] <holstein> qballer: you can always try hardware that supports linux.. a system76 laptop for example has the guranteed support as the microsoft model you  mention
[19:06] <penncil> my upgrade to 12 stopped and says do you want to keepmodified config file grub?   What s taht meant?
[19:06] <holstein> penncil: to 12?
[19:06] <e^> qballer: did you get my last msg about the edit connections? did it work?
[19:06] <penncil> 12.04
[19:06] <e^> (i got d/c)
[19:06] <gru> it means do you want to keep the grub config file... sounds plain to me
[19:07] <holstein> penncil: you are upgrading to 12.04? from what?
[19:07] <penncil> why would the file be modified?
[19:07] <qballer> just saw this e^
[19:07] <qballer> Give me a sec
[19:07] <holstein> penncil: oh.. i agree.. keep the default grub
[19:07] <holstein> penncil: the installed version..
[19:08] <holstein> penncil: the file would be modified becuase you are upgrading, and modifying *many* files
[19:08] <penncil> ty
[19:08]  * AK-47 said We 0x71 (xc) Our giving out free username at http://0x71.org , try you'r luck
[19:09] <qballer> Ok so we are back issue number one. I can connect now e^ but When I do there is no ping. I can't reach my router or anything. no DNS
[19:09] <qballer> I'm Guessing the WPA/WPA2 mixed mode isn't good.
[19:09] <qballer> Maybe I need to change stuff in the router.
[19:09] <mexi_d3> qballer: Sounds right
[19:09] <holstein> qballer: sounds like you actually cant connect.. i would try an access point without any encryption, buti have many laying around to test with
[19:10] <qballer> Recommend anything ?
[19:11] <abbiya> hi i was trying to install lubuntu along with my windows
[19:11] <holstein>  !dualboot | abbiya
[19:12] <jvarcaba> Hey, which is the fastest way to get streaming url ?
[19:12] <holstein> jvarcaba: streaming what?
[19:12] <jvarcaba> holstein, Video
[19:12] <holstein> jvarcaba: what are you asking, friend? trying to stream what from where?
[19:13] <abbiya> i have used the unetboot and pendrivelinux to create my bootable usb but the installation process is not proceeding after choosing the option "install now" and it always goes back to the boot screen again
[19:14] <jvarcaba> holstein, Im streaming local tv from http://www.ltv.lv/lv/tieshraide/ltv1-test/live.360/ , but I want to get the actual stream url to play it with vlc for example.
[19:14] <holstein> !md5 | abbiya
[19:14] <holstein> abbiya: you can try dd copy the iso to the stick..
[19:14] <holstein> abbiya: you should consider another stick as well... if you used the same one
[19:15] <abbiya> the iso hash is correct
[19:15] <holstein> jvarcaba: input it into vlc, but, if they (the creators) dont support vlc, it may not work
[19:15] <holstein> abbiya: ok, so that leaves the stick, if you have not tested it
[19:15] <jvarcaba> holstein, exactly , I want to get the actual stream url from the webpage.
[19:16] <holstein> jvarcaba: ok
[19:16] <holstein> jvarcaba: askthem for it
[19:16] <holstein> jvarcaba: they may not intend/want you to have it, or provide the content that way
[19:16] <pavlos> abbiya, so you are able to run the live CD, it messes up when you try to install, right?
[19:17] <jvarcaba> holstein, Yes, but isnt there a way to get the actual stream url ?
[19:17] <holstein> jvarcaba: sure.. if they let you have it, or provide the content like that
[19:17] <abbiya> pavlos, yes
[19:18] <abbiya> the live works fine
[19:18] <abbiya> when i try to install it always goes back to boot screen
[19:20] <pavlos> abbiya, never had this issue .. is there something peculiar about your hardware?
[19:20] <abbiya> no
[19:21] <Lope> is there a decent little benchmark program that can read all the files in a dir and copy them to dev null or something and tell me the overall speed?
[19:21] <qballer> Any ideas guys?
[19:21] <abbiya> intel core i3, with hd graphics and 2gb ddr3 ram
[19:21] <holstein> qballer: for hardware support for hardware that is not supporting linux? wifi hardware? have you tried without encyption? have you tried with the windows driver in ndiswrapper?
[19:22] <Solaris> hi
[19:22] <qballer> It worked really couple of months ago. This hardware is supported. I tried with no encryption. I doesn't work.
[19:23] <OerHeks> Lope, i use this tool to benchmark ssd/hdd  >> sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/sda
[19:23] <qballer> Any way to flush the wifi driver and reinstall it.
[19:23] <qballer> what is ndiswrapper?
[19:23] <Solaris> OerHeks -> HoerSeks kadumm tss
[19:24] <Solaris> leuk he
[19:25] <holstein> qballer: the hardware is actually not.. unless they say they support linux
[19:25] <leire> hi
[19:26] <holstein> qballer: you could have failing hardware, or, as advertised, hardware that is not supporting linux well
[19:26] <holstein> qballer: you say 12.04 worked? you can try a 12.04 live CD and see if the hardare is functioning
[19:26] <qballer> holstein: OK.. I think pavlos said this chipset is support dell-vostro 3500 and it isn't failing because 10 minutes ago (more like 2 hours) I had windows which worked fine.
[19:26] <lesshaste> how do you take a screenshot of a web page when in firefox you have to scroll down to see it all?
[19:26] <holstein> qballer: unless dell says "we support linux", its not
[19:27] <pavlos> qballer, the STA driver may not be for this chip
[19:27] <holstein> qballer: you may find you can make it work.. but its up to the manufacture to officially support an operating system
[19:27] <qballer> Also I run Ubuntu 12.04 4 months ago on this same laptop and it work right off the back.
[19:27] <holstein> qballer: if its broadcom, there are other driver options
[19:27] <qballer> holstein:  I agree with you. Just sharing history.
[19:27] <holstein> !broadcaom | qballer
[19:27] <holstein> !broadcom | qballer
[19:27] <holstein> qballer: what do i do? i try the driver options, then i pull the chip and put on in that works with linux
[19:28] <qballer> pavlos: you said something?
[19:28] <holstein> qballer: pavlos said that driver may not work with your chip
[19:28] <pavlos> qballer, YES, THE sta DRIVER MAY NOT WORK
[19:28] <pavlos> SORYR for the caps
[19:28] <qballer> Hi pavlos
[19:28] <holstein> qballer: thats when i suggested the other driver, and linked where to read about it
[19:28] <qballer> http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201004-5574/
[19:28] <holstein> qballer: unless dell, or broadcom says it, its not supported
[19:28] <OerHeks> lesshaste, multiple screenshots, or ScreenGrab "A great Firefox extension for taking screenshots ... will take screenshots of entire web pages — even the parts that run off the screen."
[19:29] <holstein> qballer: ubuntu cant and doesnt gurantee support for that device
[19:29] <lesshaste> OerHeks, I'll take a look at screengrab thanks
[19:29] <qballer> ~scratch my head~ umm... So what does Cerifies mean?
[19:29] <holstein> qballer: just that, friend
[19:29] <holstein> qballer: its not "this vendor agrees to provide you with linux support"
[19:30] <qballer> True.
[19:30] <holstein> qballer: that statement would come from the vendor.. "certified" means, community members have tested, and at that time, and that revision of chipsets, that hardware worked
[19:30] <qballer> But I don't get this. It used to work 2 hours ago on windows. It used to work 3-4 months ago older linux. what changed?
[19:30] <qballer> I see.
[19:31] <pavlos> qballer, can you give me the line of   lspci -nn for the wireless ( want to see the hex part
[19:31] <xormor> minun pitää asentaa kaverilleni Ubuntu. käytänkö standardi-Ubuntua, Long Term Supportia, uusinta? mikä työpöytä, kun hän on käyttänyt vain Windowseja. hän ei ole "nörtti" eli tietokonetietäjä, vaikka minä olen. on tärkeätä ettei hänen tarvitse käyttää komentoriviä työpöytä on selkeä ja helppo.
 *ja että työpöytä selkeä ja helppo on
 hän on juoppo eikä välttämättä osaa käsin asentaa mitään.
 minun pitänee asentaa kaikki ohjelmat mitä ei jo ole koneella itse, ja päivityksen pitää olla automaattinen. arvelen että voisi olla paras tehdä hänelle järjestelmä jossa ei ole salasanoja.
 päivityksien pitää olla täysin automatisoituja, ja olisi hyvä että päivitykset tulisivat päivittäin tai viikottain, esim. viikonloppuna. Ubuntua osaan käyttää.
[19:31] <holstein> qballer: windows support is irrelevant. all you can determine from that is that its functional.. dell promised you windows support
[19:31] <holstein> !paste | xormor
[19:31] <qballer> Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter [14e4:4727] (rev 01)
[19:31] <holstein> qballer: have you read the broadcom link? and tried de driver options?
[19:32] <qballer> That's what I was trying to say, it's not a hardware failure.
[19:32] <qballer> Doing it now :)
[19:32] <holstein> qballer: my bcm4314 bgn i pulled out, and replaced
[19:32] <pavlos> qballer, read the first answer in ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2197323
[19:32] <genii> holstein: Here too, it was too many headaches
[19:32] <holstein> qballer: i dont remember if its the same revision or not, but ii wasnt promised linux support, so i tried the options,a nd pulled it
[19:33] <holstein> genii: i was hopeful for the open option :/
[19:34] <tomxthexprox> hello
[19:35] <qballer> Restart... will be back
[19:35] <tomxthexprox> k
[19:37] <xormor> I need to install Ubuntu to my drunkard friend. It needs to be easy and Windows-like. he is not an expert on computers and operating systems. how do I make all maintenance and administration automatic on it? I need to have it without passwords.
[19:40] <qballer> Pavlos... Thanks man, that last link did the trick.
[19:40] <qballer> Wifi Galor!
[19:40] <pavlos> qballer, great!
[19:40] <tomxthexprox> http://askubuntu.com/questions/235084/how-do-i-remove-ubuntus-password-requirement
[19:40] <tomxthexprox> hope that helps
[19:41] <qballer> now for a stupid question. In windows when i do ipconfig I get ip bla bla bla. What about when I do ifconfig where is the default gateway
[19:42] <OerHeks> tomxthexprox, good luck with that, if your system gets wrecked, reinstall
[19:42] <holstein> qballer: should be labeled
[19:42] <daftykins> qballer: it's separate, run "route -n" or "ip route"
[19:44] <qballer> Cool
[19:44] <streulma> what are good notebooks for Ubuntu? HP or Asus, or Acer?
[19:45] <streulma> Has Ubuntu problems with the ATI cards?
[19:45] <qballer> system76
[19:45] <tomxthexprox> go asus
[19:45] <qballer> :D Just learned that today!
[19:45] <OerHeks> streulma, there is no best, but hp got the best keyboard is my opinion
[19:45] <tomxthexprox> i had hp, it was bad
[19:45] <qballer> so what do you guys think about the edX course of linux ?
[19:45] <kablys> system76 is crazy
[19:46] <daftykins> streulma: all Linux have issues with AMD graphics cards, their drivers are quite dire
[19:46] <qballer> How come?
[19:46] <crhrabal> rhcsa or linux+ ?
[19:46] <OerHeks> this channel is not for polling laptops actually
[19:46] <kablys> new hp 450 G1 problem with wireless
[19:46] <OerHeks> crhrabal, was that a question?
[19:46] <streulma> I had problems with Ubuntu on HP
[19:47] <streulma> video drivers with NVidia I think, was 11.04 in the past
[19:47] <pavlos> dell E6400 seems to work fine
[19:47] <streulma> but ATI is hell, also on Mac Mini with Ubuntu
[19:47] <tomxthexprox> im using a lenovo e430
[19:47] <streulma> Dell is good for Ubuntu
[19:48] <crhrabal> I asked a question, but I guess it's not the best place for that sort of question. My apologies
[19:48] <streulma> but I buyed Acer
[19:48] <holstein> crhrabal: you mean, rhcsa or linux+ ? whats the question?
[19:48] <streulma> Intel graphics and all the rest is compatible :)
[19:48] <OerHeks> streulma, so you had 1 issue on 1 laptop, and now trashing hp ?
[19:48] <streulma> crhrabal: what problem?
[19:48] <holstein> streulma: "good" is a matter of opinion and use case.. if the vendor supports linux, they will state they do
[19:49] <tomxthexprox> i had 3 hp laptops, all were trash
[19:49] <streulma> the HP which I want to buyed before have ATI, the bad card
[19:49] <holstein> streulma: not "bad".. unsupported
[19:50] <crhrabal> Was asking which cert people thought was most useful to have
[19:50] <holstein> streulma: please enjoy the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for chat.. or a hardware channel
[19:50] <crhrabal> But again probably not the best place to ask
[19:51] <pavlos> crhrabal, there is a redhat channel, ask there
[19:52] <jch2os> anyone get clvm working on ubuntu 14.04?
[19:52] <BrianH> Anyone have any recommendations for displaying steps on screen in a video tutorial?  Using 14.04 LTS.
[19:53] <holstein> BrianH: post production.. any video editor.. openshot work for you? kdenlive..
[19:53] <BrianH> holstein: Looking for something that I can click through during production.
[19:56] <BrianH> I supose I could give kdenlive a shot, just wanted to minimize any post production editing.
[19:56] <jch2os> clvm installs fine but can't get it working
[19:57] <holstein> BrianH: you can load anything on the screen there
[19:57] <holstein> BrianH: you can open a text editor.. or, something like kupfer or synapse
[20:02] <flodine> hello ubuntu folks.
[20:05] <Vivekananda> hello .on ubuntu 12.04 I have python installed but I get this error : /usr/bin/python does not match the python default version. It must be reset to point to python2.7  .  I see that the link  'python'  points to  /etc/alternatives/python  which in turn point back to /usr/bin/python2.7.     this python2.7 however does not point anywhere
[20:07] <tokamak999> Hello. Im trying to install 14.04 on my netbook. I have an USB stick with the 14.04 as livesystem and an extern 1TB 2,5" usb hdd. However, ubuntu cant find the extern HDD. What can i do? The HDD was already formatted to FAT32
[20:07] <holstein> tokamak999: why?
[20:07] <holstein> tokamak999: you wouldnt be installing to the fat partition.. what are you trying to do?
[20:08] <tokamak999> holstein: Im trying to install ubuntu from the live stick to the external hdd drive. However, i can not find my HDD. Not in Gparted, not in the console, no where. If i use another laptop with Windows, it shows up fine
[20:08] <holstein> tokamak999: ok
[20:09] <holstein> tokamak999: i would try other ports.. replugging.. i would try in a terminal "sudo fdisk -l" and see if i see it
[20:09] <eN_Joy> by default ufw logs to dmesg, ufw.log, syslog, how do i let it only logs to ufw.log?
[20:09] <holstein> tokamak999: if the installer doesnt see it, then you wont be able to install to it, but linux/ubuntu isnt specifically preventing the external drive from showing up
[20:10] <tokamak999> holstein: If i do sudo fdisk -l, only my usb live stick shows up
[20:10] <holstein> tokamak999: ok.. so work with it til it shows up.. try other ports.. remove usb hubs, etc..
[20:11] <tokamak999> holstein: tried all 3 ports, nothing happens. they work for sure
[20:12] <tokamak999> holstein: my external HDD has an LED. if i plug it into my laptop, it blinks. when i use the ubuntu laptop, it wont even do that
[20:13] <jackarius86> tokamak999: try the command blkid and see what device your usb shows up on
[20:17] <tokamak999> jackarius86: /dev/loop0 type=squashfs and /dev/sda1: label=UUI= uuid=... type=vfat
[20:17] <keevitaja> hi, i have few questions. how can i stop vlc for opening videos in maximized window state?
[20:18] <AnonLucifer> why is my ubuntu 12.04 LTS showing "unknown" at "graphics"
[20:18] <AnonLucifer> i have an Intel HD graphic card
[20:18] <keevitaja> and also where can i find hexchat servers list file?
[20:19] <skfax> How difficult/possible/clever is it to downgrade the tar utility from 1.27.1 to 1.26.X in Ubuntu 14.04?
[20:20] <Bashing-om> AnonLucifer: "Graphics: Unknown" is a false report and a known bug. ->Install the package mesa-utils and the graphics card/driver will be shown.https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa-demos/+bug/914631
[20:20] <meek_geek> guys how to optimize aptitude
[20:21] <meek_geek> how to delete all the unnecessary apps with Aptitude ?
[20:21] <streulma> meek_geek sudo apt-get autoremove
[20:21] <OerHeks> meek_geek, aptitude does not know unnecessary apps
[20:22] <meek_geek> OerHeks, is aptitude outdated ?
[20:22] <OerHeks> meek_geek, no, why?
[20:22] <meek_geek> why does not it know then ?
[20:23] <meek_geek> OerHeks, how to del an app with all the dependencies ?
[20:24] <OerHeks> meek_geek, just remove the app, and autoremove will remove all unused dependencies
[20:24] <OerHeks> meek_geek, carefull with removing gnome-apps, as they can remove the whole desktop.
[20:25] <meek_geek> OerHeks, oh i see
[20:25] <AnonLucifer> thanks. i solved the graphic bug ;)
[20:27] <Bashing-om> AnonLucifer: Good deal. Happy trails to you.
[20:29] <AnonLucifer> i'm not familiar with your dialect :))
[20:33] <thedoctor_> hi
[20:33] <Pici> !netsplit
[20:34] <Bashing-om> AnonLucifer: American slang .. My apologies... just pleased there is resolution.
[20:35] <tigefa> hola
[20:35] <ripthejacker> Hi everyone I just installed ubuntu 14.04
[20:35] <ripthejacker> and hostapd is not working for me
[20:36] <AnonLucifer> owwww :D ok, then... i'm from romania, u can imagine i'm not that good in english slang ad stuff :D
[20:36] <AnonLucifer> i know enough english to get myself in trouble :))
[20:38] <thedoctor_> yo
[20:38] <meek_geek> yo
[20:38] <daftykins> greetings
[20:38] <Bashing-om> antonwalkerr: Your linguistic skills are better than mine, I have yet to master my native language; much less any other.
[20:38] <thedoctor_> any one use the go prgramming language ?
[20:38] <meek_geek> thedoctor_, but why ?
[20:38] <daftykins> that's not really the point of this channel, thedoctor_
[20:38] <thedoctor_> wow
[20:39] <thedoctor_> thjats the question
[20:39] <thedoctor_> more to point is how to build from source ?
[20:39] <daftykins> can't you find it in a package?
[20:40] <Pici> thedoctor_: If you're asking about how to build go programs, then #golang is probably a much better place to ask
[20:40] <Pici> thedoctor_: if you want to program in Ubuntu, install the golang package.
[20:41] <perlsaiyan> exit
[20:41] <thedoctor_> doing that now
[20:46] <Lope> I've set my nfs rsize to 1MB. that's a lot more than most of the numbers I've seen thrown around online. But for my workload it gives me the max throughput MB/s AND the minimum CPU usage on the client. (less packets to join together). Will I get into trouble for using such a big rsize?
[20:47] <swaggr> boringggggg
[20:49] <lucido> how can I suspend from console?
[20:50] <lucido> pm-suspend?
[20:51] <AaronEstrada> Hola
[20:52] <AaronEstrada> hola
[20:52] <AaronEstrada> alguien conectado?
[20:52] <PatrickDickey> Hi everyone. I'm having problems with two different Nvidia cards on Ubuntu (mythbuntu) 14.04. If I use the nouveau drivers, and try to watch DVD's the video is choppy. If I try the Nvidia drivers, then all I get is a black screen (if the computer doesn't lock up altogther). One card is a Geforce 6200 and the other is a GT 610.
[20:53] <Corvette> ,seen mashu
[20:53] <PatrickDickey> !es | AaronEstrada
[20:54] <PatrickDickey> Any suggestions as to what I should do? I'm trying to use either card, through the DVI port.
[20:55] <Pici> !netsplit
[20:55] <PatrickDickey> Pici, is that why there was a sudden rash of people quitting?
[20:56] <Pici> PatrickDickey: yes.
[20:59] <AaronEstrada> hello
[20:59] <histo> hola
[21:00] <PatrickDickey> Hello histo and AaronEstrada.
[21:01] <AaronEstrada> histo,si eres español escribe: /join #ubuntu-es y entraras en un chat español
[21:01] <PatrickDickey> !nvidia
[21:01] <siignal> is there a way to reinstall a package and have it put all the default config files back in place?
[21:02] <siignal> i tried apt-get --reinstall install nginx, but it doesn't seem to fix the problem
[21:02] <Schalla> Hello folks. I got some weird problems. I start my IDE with my local user, schalla, and want to save to a directory which is chown'ed by www-data:www-data. I added schalla to the www-data group using usermod -a -G www-data schalla, id schalla + groups schalla show me as member, but still I get permission denied while the chmod of the file is -rw-rw-r--
[21:02] <Glorfindel> !help
[21:02] <histo> AaronEstrada: I don't speak spanish
[21:03] <histo> siignal: purge it first then reinstall
[21:03] <Pici> histo: to be fair, you did say 'hola'
[21:03] <Schalla> Glorfindel: Who you ment?
[21:03] <histo> siignal: sudo apt-get purge packagename     <<<<That will remove all configs etc...
[21:04] <histo> Schalla: did you log out and back in?
[21:04] <Schalla> histo: Nvm, there is a different kind of problem. My IDE creates the files with 633 chmod...
[21:04] <Glorfindel> Schalla: I thought that ubottu would respond with a list of commands ;)
[21:05] <Schalla> Glorfindel: Ah, okay.
[21:05] <histo> Glorfindel: /msg ubottu usage
[21:05] <histo> Schalla: umask?
[21:05] <siignal> histo, i did try that. it says it removed everything. but when i reinstall it doesn't recreate the original directories that were in place the first time
[21:05] <Schalla> histo: Can I define a umask for a cifs share?
[21:06] <Glorfindel> Thanks histo
[21:06] <histo> Schalla: You using samba?
[21:06] <Schalla> histo: I defined the mount in fstab
[21:06] <Schalla> Unsure if it relies on samba
[21:07] <histo> Schalla: nvm. I thought you had a samba share... How are you creating and saving the files?
[21:07] <Schalla> They are created automatically by my IDE.
[21:07] <Schalla> So I won't have any influence on it, sadly.
[21:07] <Schalla> maybe these mount options may help?
[21:07] <Schalla> ,file_mode=0755,dir_mode=0755
[21:07] <Schalla> (well not 0755 for files, but otherwise)
[21:09] <Schalla> A relog will show.
[21:11] <Corvette> Hello!
[21:11] <siignal> histo, i tried it several times which is of no use anymore lol tbh.. i read online and what you told me seems to be what other people are having success with
[21:11] <siignal> so i don't know what i am doing wrong
[21:11] <Corvette> I need someone to help me figure out why my monitors get jumbled up after the log in screen.
[21:11] <Corvette> I need someone to help me figure out why my monitors get jumbled up after the log in screen. I edited monitors.xml to try and fix it and it appears to make no difference.
[21:14] <Glorfindel> Corvette: get a Ford :p Seriously though, what version?
[21:16] <jhutchins> Corvette: The login screen is usually handled by a Display Manger that handles logging in and choosing and launching the Desktop Environment.  I think for vanila ubuntu that would be gdmm, which handles graphic configuration in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf.
[21:16] <webber_> Hi. I used parted to create a logical partition, and tried to use mkfs to make it into an ext4 partition. It gives some IO error , then proceeds to create the partition, but parted never views it as ext4 .   http://pastebin.com/Zk66A9Ba    Anyone have any suggestions?
[21:16] <jhutchins> Corvette: When gdm hands off to the desktop, the configuration is handled by files in /etc/Xorg/ like xorg.conf and xorg.conf.d/*
[21:17] <webber_> Notice how parted's --list command doesn't say ext4 under Filesystem
[21:17] <jhutchins> Corvette: For most systems, the details are auto-configured at startup, but if you've configured something manually like an nvidia card, the handoff appears to be failing.
[21:18] <Jordan_U> webber_: Do you have any important data on this drive that isn't backed up?
[21:18] <jhutchins> Corvette: So the first thing I'd do is move/rename any xorg configuration files you've created and see what happens then.
[21:18] <jhutchins> Corvette: (restart x by restarting gdm).
[21:19] <Fritzendugan> so somehow I seemed to have accidentally uninstalled whatever package is responsible for the "system settings" GUI thingy in Ubuntu Trusty. What package do I need to reinstall?
[21:19] <Jordan_U> webber_: An IO error like that is probably a hardware failure, so this drive may be failing (or the SATA cable may be loose, or something else).
[21:20] <Jordan_U> Fritzendugan: gnome-control-center most likely.
[21:20] <Fritzendugan> Jordan_U, thanks, but it seems that package is already installed and up to date.
[21:20] <Corvette> Okay sorry I was on the phone
[21:20] <Corvette> let me read everything
[21:21] <Corvette> okay, jhutchins
[21:21] <Corvette> so you want me to delete the xorg.conf file?
[21:22] <Corvette> and then remake it using the nvidia xconfig app?
[21:23] <saby> I have Ubuntu 14.04 and my secondary display is showing as Unknown Display and I can't set it to it's native resolution
[21:24] <Corvette> jhutchins is it safe to do that?
[21:26] <saby> I have Ubuntu 14.04 and my secondary display is showing as Unknown Display and I can't set it to it's native resolution. How can I fix this problem. I had an update today or yesterday and I restarted my laptop today and it's giving me this issue. Any tips on how can I fix it?
[21:26] <daftykins> did you boot up with it connected?
[21:26] <saby> yes
[21:26] <daftykins> what connection type?
[21:26] <saby> VGA
[21:26] <daftykins> what driver and what graphics hardware
[21:26] <ghjkl> Hello. I'm trying to install acestream , but i got the following error
[21:27] <saby> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06)
[21:27] <ghjkl> The following packages have unmet dependencies.  acestream-engine : Depends: python2.7-apsw but it is not installable E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[21:27] <daftykins> ghjkl: what ubuntu version?
[21:27] <ghjkl> i'm using the latest lubuntu
[21:28] <saby> daftykins, ^^
[21:28] <daftykins> saby: and that's the only one?
[21:28] <forest> anyone know of a good vpn for ubuntu
[21:28] <Fred0271> ciao
[21:28] <Fred0271> ragazzi
[21:29] <ghjkl> Trusty Tahr, I believe
[21:29] <saby> daftykins, 'lspci | grep VGA' gave this result. I have an integrated display in the laptop and an external display connected using VGA
[21:29] <daftykins> saby: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[21:30] <daftykins> ghjkl: hmm is that package from a repo or the default ubuntu included ones?
[21:30] <OerHeks> !vpn | forest
[21:31] <ghjkl> i follow the instrauction here http://acestreamguide.com/linux/
[21:31] <ghjkl> i add the raring repo
[21:31] <saby> oops sorry for the notice
[21:31] <saby> daftykins, http://pastebin.com/ajsU3p38
[21:31] <forest> the link isnt working
[21:32] <daftykins> ghjkl: sorry, you'll have to contact them with how to use their software with trusty.
[21:32] <OerHeks> forest, it is working fine here
[21:33] <forest> nm i got it thx
[21:33] <ghjkl> daftykins: ok, but can you tell me how to undo what i did if i want to remove it completely?
[21:34] <Freeder> Hi, I have a few small public services running (webpages, ftp, etc) and would like to gain a better idea of what users are doing on my network when connected (bandwidth used, how many are currently connected, new connections, etc) via something similar to mrtg... what is a good real-time stat generator that might be able to do that?
[21:35] <daftykins> ghjkl: "sudo apt-get remove --purge acestream-full" then remove the lines from your sources.list file
[21:35] <forest> anyone have a particular vpn that they trust aka not a honypot or scam
[21:35] <daftykins> saby: so it believes it's outputting 1024x768 to your external display
[21:35] <daftykins> saby: does it state no signal, or is it in power save?
[21:36] <saby> yup, i'm unable to change the resolution through Screen Display to native resolution. It is currently displaying at 1024x768
[21:36] <ghjkl> daftykins: thank you
[21:38] <daftykins> saby: are all 15 pins intact inside the cable at both ends?
[21:38] <daftykins> saby: also, if you boot up without it, what happens if you plug it in then, any change?
[21:38] <Corvette> Okay so now officially I've deleted and recreated both the monitors.xml and xorg.conf files and it still wants to default to this wacky screen configuration
[21:39] <saby> daftykins, I'll give that a try. And the cable is connected properly.
[21:39] <saby> brb
[21:39] <daftykins> 0o
[21:39] <Corvette> does gnome use a different xorg.conf file than unity
[21:39] <Fred0271> ciao
[21:39] <ozbrk> hey guys I need some help for spotify it freezes like hell
[21:39] <Fred0271> come la va?
[21:39] <daftykins> why do i get the feeling that people read not the words you type but what they think you typed
[21:39] <daftykins> Fred0271: english only in here please, there are other channels for other languages
[21:40] <Fred0271> it's my first time that i'm using irc
[21:40] <Fred0271> sorry for my mistake :)
[21:40] <daftykins> no problem ^_^
[21:40] <Fred0271> thank you
[21:41] <rhubarb> hi, i did an 12.04 installation on a notebook some time ago and ticked the encryption button. Two days ago the drive started to make noises and I saved it with ddrescue /dev/sdb to a image file. How can I open the image now?
[21:42] <daftykins> rhubarb: just in case nobody replies for a time, you might want to start looking up something like ecryptfs tools i think it would be
[21:42] <saby> daftykins, connecting after the system boots did solve the issue
[21:42] <salvatore> ciao
[21:42] <rhubarb> daftykins I am just not sure if it used ecryptfs or luks
[21:42] <daftykins> saby: i suspect it was having an issue reading the EDID info from the monitor
[21:42] <daftykins> rhubarb: ah, well if you work only on a copied image you should be safe :)
[21:42] <saby> hmm, should be filed as a bug?
[21:42] <forest> hello all! does anyone have a particular proxy that they like and or trust??
[21:43] <ozbrk> I think noone cares abot my question :D
[21:43] <daftykins> saby: i've no experience of that level, not sure
[21:43] <saby> ah ok
[21:43] <saby> well thank you so much for your help daftykins :)
[21:43] <daftykins> saby: perhaps try searching if there isn't one already similar. my pleasure :)
[21:43] <jhutchins> ozbrk: You have not posted a question.
[21:44] <saby> yup i'll take a look :)
[21:44] <jhutchins> ozbrk: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[21:44] <ozbrk> ok ok
[21:44] <daftykins> ozbrk: i see nothing in the last hour
[21:45] <forest> privoxy isnt working on my machine.. so does anyone know of another that is reliable
[21:46] <ozbrk> let me explain all of the story. I tried to install spotify linux client but both linux client and web interface are freezing and lagging like hell. I can't listen the music as confortable as I expected. My system details: ATI Radeon HD 5800 (all drivers have been installed) AMD Athlon x64 processor and Ubuntu 14.04 x64 system
[21:46] <jhutchins> ozbrk: Something like spotify freezing just isn't anything to go on.  Our best response would be "yeah, so?".  We don't know what you're connecting with (browser?) what release you're on, what hardware you have, what your LAN connection is, what your WAN connection is, whether any other streaming services work well or badly.  Way too many variables.
[21:47] <ozbrk> jhutchins: try to ask me what do you want to knoe my browser is chorimium
[21:47] <jhutchins> ozbrk: What client did you try to install and how?  WHat speed are you trying to stream?  Do slower streams work?
[21:48] <jhutchins> ozbrk: What about other streams like pandora or soma.fm?
[21:49] <ozbrk> jhutchins: offical way which released by spotify on their webpage (link will be here at least one mintes ) and I haven't tried other streams yet  and my connection speed is gfair enough for me (Turkish TTNET is always bad compairing by rest of the worlds internet service providers ofc)
[21:49] <forest> guess this was a waist of time
[21:49] <forest> waste
[21:50] <jhutchins> ozbrk: There is no way to be sure that a client downloaded from spotify actually works on your version of ubuntu.
[21:51] <jhutchins> ozbrk: Many streaming services offer different speed streams, you can see if a slower one works more smoothly.
[21:51] <ozbrk> jhutchins: well it is just a prewiev
[21:52] <jhutchins> ozbrk: I'd get it working in the browser first.
[21:52] <rhubarb> daftykins it is ecryptfs, thanks for the fast reply
[21:54] <luisja1006> hello, if during installation I installed /home in a different partition than /, once the installation is done, will the /home partition automatically become the os's home, or I have to set it?
[21:54] <imvladimir> spotify uses a bitrate of about 160KB/s
[21:55] <OerHeks> luisja1006, it will be automatic mounted
[21:55] <ozbrk> jhutchins: opening spotify on my browser for another test
[21:55] <imvladimir> even TTNet should have 1300 Kb/s
[21:55] <luisja1006> OerHeks thank you!
[21:56] <ozbrk> jhutchins: well that's strange it says there is no flash player on my system :/ I'll try it on firefox now
[21:56] <ChibaPet> Hey, I'm wondering why a page might be marked "Immutable" on help.ubuntu.com. I just made an account to fix typos, but I seem not to be able to edit the page I wanted to fix. Is there a group I can contact for this sort of issue?
[21:56] <marshall> hey ubuntu
[21:56] <imvladimir> hey marshall
[21:57] <Fred0271> bye
[21:57] <ozbrk> seems problem sloved thank you all guys
[21:57] <marshall> how do i get `iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 5984` to work?
[21:58] <skinux> I have GRUB installed to Ubuntu's partition instead of MBR. Would it complicate boot menu (EFI) to move contents of current Ubuntu partition (30G) to another 60G partition so Ubuntu has more disk space?
[21:58] <designbybeck> I'm getting a Segmentation fault (core dumped) when trying to open my Documents folder in Nautilus
[21:58] <designbybeck> But other folders open fine!?!?
[22:00] <imvladimir> marshall: I personally have no idea, ##networking or ##security might if nobody here can answer you
[22:01] <marshall> imvladimir: ok, thanks
[22:01] <luisja1006> why gparted doesn't allows me to select a new partition (ntfs format) as logical instead of primary?
[22:01] <luisja1006> sharing that partition with windows 8
[22:02] <muddle_> anyone remember the discussion about not finding the hdmi in sound options (last night) ?
[22:03] <Guido1> Hello, I was thinking about installing windows on a logical partition and use linux to boot it. Is that possible?
[22:03] <muddle_> turns out it won't show until you connect the jack to something like a receiver
[22:03] <muddle_> guido you can do multi boot via grub2
[22:03] <muddle_> it's a lot of work, though
[22:05] <muddle_> you can also install windows on Virtualbox in ubuntu
[22:05] <muddle_> then you can launch inside linux
[22:06] <Viking667> pfft. My screen's going all weird.
[22:06] <muddle_> okay then. guess i'll bbl
[22:06] <Viking667> back later.
[22:07] <Viking667> there, that seems to be better.
[22:08] <Viking667> I've got a desktop problem. I have a 1920x1080 screen, that I occasionally drop down to 1360x768 to play games with. What I've noticed with xfwm4 and gnome-shell since the update to 14.04 is that the desktop now appears to have a virtual size that's still 1920x1080, even though I select a smaller screen mode.
[22:08] <Viking667> What on earth can I do about this?
[22:09] <ChibaPet> Viking667: You can maybe try to set the size in advance of launching your game.
[22:09] <Viking667> that works for viewport, not for desktop.
[22:11] <imvladimir> wouldn’t using a lower res in the game be better?
[22:11] <imvladimir> since the game could still render at 1080P even if your res is at 720P
[22:13] <mexi_d3> Viking667: If nvidia, their proprietary driver thing has a setting to configure scaling.
[22:13] <ChibaPet> Oh, odd. When I'm in the installer, doing manual partitioning, I have the option "physical volume for encryption" but there's no option "physical volume for LVM" - am I missing something? How do I use a raw partition as a physical volume for LVM?
[22:16] <Guido1> muddle_: yes, I know that I can do multi grub, but I'f I'm right it's difficult to get windows on a logical partition
[22:17] <Guido1> muddle_: yes, I could instal it in a virtual box, but that would probaply be slower
[22:18] <keevitaja> hi, i have few questions. how can i stop vlc for opening videos in maximized window state?
[22:18] <ChibaPet> Damn. I even donated money to Ubuntu this time around. Didn't figured my plans would be slapped down this soon. Sigh.
[22:19] <ChibaPet> Alright, no LVM then.
[22:20] <ChibaPet> Ooh, but if I can't have LVM from the start, I can't sit swap and other partitions on a LUKS-backed structure. Oh well. It was only twenty bucks.
[22:21] <moonbug> having a problem installing ubuntu 14.04, since wubi no longer gives the installation type screen, when it gets to where to install ubuntu, the window is blank, and crashes installation. I already manually made space by shrinking my win 8.1 I'm dual-booting. I tried creating a ext4 with gparted, but it wont work,
[22:23] <Pici> moonbug: wubi does not work with windows 8.
[22:24] <Viking667> I've got a workspace manager under xfwm4, and I see a blue rectangle inside a larger rectangle that's supposed to represent my view... I'm wondering why the desktop stays the same size, though the viewport resizes?
[22:24] <moonbug> yeah I'm gathering that Pici, but I downloaded wubi directly, installed on win, and it worked
[22:24] <Viking667> (and, ATI card, using the opensource driver)
[22:25] <Pici> moonbug: it sounds like it isn't working.
[22:25] <moonbug> well, it worked except the lack of installlation type screen, which is a crucial step
[22:26] <moonbug> it just skipped that step, and went past it
[22:26] <Pici> moonbug: Like I said, it does not work with Windows 8.  Additionally, most people here would suggest that you do a real install instead of Wubi anyway.
[22:27] <moonbug> I would love to!! unfortunately the only ubuntu DL I can find boots wubi ;/
[22:27] <Viking667> moonbug: huh? where are you looking???
[22:27] <moonbug> the ubuntu DL page
[22:28] <Viking667> at canonical?
[22:28] <moonbug> yes
[22:28]  * Viking667 blinks
[22:28] <Viking667> that's a new one on me.
[22:28] <Pici> moonbug: Don't run it from windows.  burn it to a disk/usb and then boot off of it.
[22:28] <ChibaPet> So, there's mention of an alternate installer that gives what looks like the Debian text-based installer that supports setting up LVM. Would this be the "network installer" image?
[22:29] <moonbug> the iso has wubi written in, and coded to boot wubi..... I did exactly that Pici
[22:29] <Pici> ChibaPet: not really..
[22:29] <Pici> !minimal | ChibaPet
[22:30] <Pici> moonbug: Wubi is a Windows application.  You should get the "Try Ubuntu" thing if you boot off the disk.
[22:30] <ChibaPet> Hm, that talks about the "Alternate CD". Does such a thing exist for 14.04?
[22:30]  * Viking667 blinks. haaaang on, I'm getting offered 64-bit, 64-bit AMD (Macs) and 32-bit for 2GB-or-less machines. My machine's using 32-bit ubuntu and has 4Gb, which image do I choose?
[22:30] <Pici> ChibaPet: Not anymore. At least not for Ubuntu Desktop
[22:31] <moonbug> ok, I'll give that a shot, thx :)
[22:31] <ChibaPet> Pici: Ugh. Is there an option for installing to LVM-on-LUKS? Can I download a server image and then just throw on Unity and friends afterwards?
[22:32] <ChibaPet> I want to get Ubuntu 14.04 on my MacBook Retina (late 2013) but I want LUKS and LVM, because I'm used to that. From what I've read, the version of the kernel that ships has some unpleasant bugs that make btrfs not desireable, even if it would obviate the LVM bit.
[22:33] <Pici> ChibaPet: I thought that the current gui installer could do that... although I'm not sure about macs...
[22:33] <Jordan_U> Viking667: Is your CPU 64 bit or 32 bit?
[22:34] <ChibaPet> Pici: I'm using the straight image, not the Mac image. It has an option for LUKS, but nothing for LVM. I'm going to try installing the LVM package and see if it magically picks up on that being in the live image.
[22:34] <zkv> Hello
[22:34] <Viking667> my CPU is 64-bit, being run in 32-bit so I get a bit more benefit from my 4Gb of memory.
[22:35] <Jordan_U> Viking667: Then go with 64 bit Ubuntu (as those option names imply).
[22:35] <Viking667> sigh.
[22:35] <zkv> My first irs incomming wih the new Ubuntu :) I found irssi to work with irc. Does there is some good another clients for irc?
[22:35] <Viking667> xchat
[22:35] <ChibaPet> Argh, thrwarted. The LiveCD already has an lvm2 installed.
[22:36] <ChibaPet> zkv: irssi is pretty flexible if you don't mind a text-based interface.
[22:36] <Viking667> If I go 64-bit (and I haven't so far), then I lose the ability to run skype against pulseaudio.
[22:36] <Viking667> ... I already found THAT out the hard way.
[22:36] <Jordan_U> Viking667: While you're losing a bit of memory in larger pointers, unless you know your bottleneck is caused by low memory you'll probably gain speed from using newer faster 64 bit instructions.
[22:36] <zkv> Viking667, ChibaPet thank you
[22:36] <ChibaPet> Viking667: No, you can run it, you just have use multi-arch and install the 32-bit libraries required.
[22:36] <Viking667> tried that, I'm missing something in 32-bit because the 64-bit equivalent is already installed for something.
[22:37] <Viking667> I wish I knew what it was, because it's stopping my wife from using Skype while she plays minecraft.
[22:37] <ChibaPet> It's definitely possible, as I've done it recently, but it takes a bit of fiddling.
[22:37] <ChibaPet> On Debian it involves adding the architecture via dpkg and refreshing repos and such.
[22:37] <Jordan_U> Viking667: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[22:38] <Viking667> on a fresh install of 64-bit 13.10, upgraded to 14.04, she can't get skype to even acknowledge that pulseaudio even exists...
[22:39] <Jordan_U> Viking667: Did you follow the instructions that I linked to for installing skype?
[22:39] <ChibaPet> Viking667: Many folks won't acknowledge PulseAudio. :P
[22:40] <Viking667> sorry, I'm bouncing between real-world and three computer keyboards at the moment.
[22:40] <Schalla> Is there a way to select 2 fileowners? Sounds strange, but maybe there is a way.
[22:40] <Viking667> I think I may have read that webpage. I'll go check it yet again.
[22:41] <Viking667> Schalla: no, but you can put both owners into a shared group...
[22:41] <Schalla> Viking667: Not sufficient sadly, since only the owner can change the chmod e.g.
[22:42] <TeraJL> hi there, my ubuntu 14.04 is mounting my USB(Fat32 16GB) as read only.... if i manually mount it, it works just fine...what it may be? i've tried to format multiple times with no luck :/
[22:43] <muddlethru> i had one that did that too, but it was only 1G
[22:43] <muddlethru> ended up throwing it away
[22:43] <Viking667> Schalla: hm. So you want BOTH 'owners' to be able to chmod a file?
[22:43] <Schalla> Indeed.
[22:43] <Jordan_U> TeraJL: Please pastebin the ouptut of "dmesg".
[22:43] <Schalla> Case:
[22:43] <Jordan_U> TeraJL: What mount command are you using to mount it manually?
[22:43] <Schalla> I got a jailed user 'schalla' which home folder is basicly a apache vhost
[22:44] <Schalla> when owner = schalla, apache cannot chmod files e.g.
[22:44] <Viking667> Schalla: there's always the option of putting both 'users' into sudo for very limited commands...
[22:44] <Viking667> but that may not work for apache.
[22:44] <Schalla> when owner = apache, I cannot chmod files.
[22:44] <TeraJL> Jordan_U: sudo mount -t vfat -o rw /dev/sdc1 /mnt/myUSb
[22:44] <pl1x> hello
[22:45] <muddlethru> hi pl1x
[22:45] <Viking667> Schalla: hm. I hadn't thought of that, actually. It's one of the reasons why I actually slapped a password on my root user, so I could get in there and do things like this directly.
[22:45] <Viking667> but these days, that's considered wrong.
[22:45] <Viking667> ... it's certainly what I did back in 1996
[22:46] <TeraJL> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/DRJYbirv
[22:46] <Freeder> uh
[22:46] <Schalla> Viking667: Easy solution would be to setup a ftp.
[22:46] <Freeder> you definitely want a password on your root user account
[22:46] <daftykins> Schalla: you get around that by adding your user to the www-data group
[22:46] <pl1x> i installed unity3d with playonlinux. it's starting, everything works fine, but i doesn't have any text. just the gui. i installed windows fonts too but no change
[22:46] <daftykins> Freeder: no you don't. this is ubuntu, there *is* no root password :)
[22:46] <Schalla> daftykins: let me try that. I thought of that too.
[22:47] <muddlethru> yeah but everyone thinks you should just use sudo
[22:47] <muddlethru> but you can sudo su, then passwd
[22:47] <Freeder> like i said, there's a root user account
[22:47] <daftykins> muddlethru: you do not run that on ubuntu, please do not advise that in any situation in here.
[22:47] <muddlethru> set root password that way
[22:47] <daftykins> muddlethru: no, that is against ubuntu practice, please stop talking of it.
[22:48]  * muddlethru stops talking
[22:48] <Freeder> its included in ubuntu, i'd say that's fair to mention
[22:48] <muddlethru> anyway it works
[22:48] <kostkon> !root
[22:48] <daftykins> no, sudo su breaks many things on ubuntu systems
[22:48] <daftykins> and setting a password is a bad idea.
[22:48] <Freeder> then it should be removed
[22:48] <Viking667> then you lose the ability to do ANY admin
[22:48] <Freeder> but its still a valid option
[22:49] <daftykins> you're welcome to discuss policy elsewhere
[22:49] <muddlethru> okay okay
[22:49] <Freeder> you're the one talking policy
[22:49] <daftykins> Freeder: setting a pass? i appreciate you have opinions but please don't share them here.
[22:49] <Freeder> we're talking technical abilities
[22:49] <Freeder> the fact that a root user exists isn't an opinion
[22:49] <Jordan_U> TeraJL: It's not that Ubuntu is mounting it read-only per-se, it looks like it's mounting it -o rw,errors=remount-ro , and then you're getting an IO error.
[22:49] <daftykins> #ubuntu-offtopic for any further talk on this topic please.
[22:50] <Viking667> Freeder: the who.... oops, I'll shift this over to -offtopic
[22:50] <Freeder> talking about an ubuntu option is off topic?
[22:50] <Jordan_U> TeraJL: When you get an IO error you really do want to remount-ro rather than continuing to write to a failing drive (and it appears that your USB drive is failing).
[22:50] <daftykins> Freeder: please don't make this anymore tedious than it is already.
[22:50] <Viking667> it's not an ubuntu option, they simply don't create a valid password, so the root account can't be hacked by direct logging in THAT way at least.
[22:51] <Freeder> agreed.
[22:51] <Viking667> Anyhow, 'nuff said.
[22:51] <daftykins> Schalla: so once your user is in the www-data group and the documentroot is owned by www-data:www-data, you can chmod g+w so the group can write and all should be well
[22:51] <Jordan_U> !noroot | Freeder
[22:52] <Viking667> daftykins: that sounds almost like a working solution
[22:52] <daftykins> Viking667: :D
[22:52] <Viking667> bah. I've got to run again... be right back.
[22:52] <Viking667> Anyhow, I've got skype (presumably from partner repo) installed, but it only ever goes for non-pulseaudio, and gets stonewalled as soon as something else is using pulseaudio.
[22:53] <Viking667> back soon.
[22:53] <Schalla> daftykins: Highly appreciated. that works. :)
[22:53] <Jordan_U> Viking667: Please pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy skype".
[22:54] <daftykins> Schalla: obviously just be mindful of the permissions on any given file :)
[22:54] <daftykins> my pleasure
[22:55] <Schalla> daftykins: Only disadvantage is that now user schalla cannot call anymore chmod on it, right?
[22:57] <mexi_d3> is this official? http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/
[22:57] <mexi_d3> Or if not official, then accurate?
[22:57] <imvladimir> no
[22:58] <imvladimir> not official that is
[22:58] <ChibaPet> whois suggests "not official" as well
[22:58] <daftykins> Schalla: mmm, possibly not
[22:58] <Jordan_U> mexi_d3: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/about
[22:58] <imvladimir> it should be up-to-date
[22:59] <imvladimir> as accurate as the launchpad would be
[22:59] <Schalla> daftykins hm, crap.
[22:59] <Schalla> :D
[22:59] <mexi_d3> I'm trying to work out which recent update is responsible for affecting my wifi
[22:59] <imvladimir> you can just tell by the design, I doubt canonical would come with something like this
[22:59] <mexi_d3> imvladimir: Looks no better or worse than launchpad
[23:00] <imvladimir> mexi_d3: looks a hundred times worse than launchpad
[23:00] <lamrz> hello everyone, how can I see the wi-fi networks that my device has connected about 7-10 days ago?
[23:01] <Viking667> comes from TrustyPartners.
[23:01] <imvladimir> mexi_d3 try apt-history install
[23:01] <Viking667> that's for Jordan_U
[23:01] <Viking667> I'll have to hop over and do some of this remotely, wife's hopped onto the machine.
[23:02] <zkv> Any idea how can i add flash support for the firefox browser? I have already installed browser plugin but still flash is not working?
[23:02] <mexi_d3> there's been some kind of upgrade that's resulted in me seeing some latency in SSH connections over intranet. I'm looking through what was installed to try to find it.
[23:02] <Viking667> Jordan_U: right, what else?
[23:02] <daftykins> !flash | zkv
[23:02] <lolbonerXD> what is the difference between group and rest of the world in file permissions
[23:02] <daftykins> zkv: should be as simple as that
[23:02] <kostkon> lamrz, check your logs, e.g. syslog
[23:03] <mexi_d3> zkv: I recommend you don't use Flash in firefox, it's an old version, infrequently patched and therefore insecure. Chrome has an updated flash player.
[23:03] <mexi_d3> zkv: It also doesn't work on some sites e.g. vimeo
[23:03] <kostkon> lamrz, use the System Log app, if it isn't there, select File -> Open, go to /var/log
[23:04] <zkv> daftykins, mexi_d3 thank you very much! I think i should install chrome. What is the name for the chrome package in ubuntu?
[23:04] <mexi_d3> zkv: On their website. It's not in repo.
[23:04] <ChibaPet> Alright, trying the server image to see if that lets me do more complex partitioning.
[23:05] <daftykins> zkv: you can get chromium i think, "chromium-browser" i believe
[23:05] <mexi_d3> daftykins: Doesn't have the same flash player, unless you add the ppa. also it can't do PDF forms.
[23:05] <kbrosnan> mexi_d3: adobe specificly states that they will support Flash on Linux for 5 years for security issues
[23:05] <zkv> mexi_d3, daftykins thank you both for the great information
[23:05] <daftykins> mexi_d3: perhaps that's more relevant information for the person wanting to use it rather than me
[23:06] <mexi_d3> daftykins: I think it's relevant to both of you.
[23:06] <daftykins> i disagree but nm
[23:06] <imvladimir> doesn’t chromium come with pepper flash?
[23:06] <lamrz> kostkon, I am viewing the syslog, can it be this line: DHCPREQUEST of 'IP' on eth1 to 'IP2' port XX ?
[23:06] <Viking667> gah. Every time a coconut. I start Skype, I get "Problem with audio capture"
[23:07] <kostkon> lamrz, you should be looking for the SSIDs of the networks
[23:07] <mexi_d3> imvladimir: Not any more, no. it's a PPA now.
[23:07] <imvladimir> pepper flash is a PPA?
[23:07] <imvladimir> how so?
[23:08] <OerHeks> !info pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[23:08] <mexi_d3> imvladimir: OK, it might be  in repo
[23:08] <OerHeks> no need for funny ppa's
[23:08] <mexi_d3> Still doesn't do pdf forms though
[23:09] <OerHeks> mexi_d3, there are plenty plugins for that, and what is wrong with evince?
[23:09] <mexi_d3> OerHeks: Can it fill out a pdf form?
[23:10] <Viking667> in addition, when I start skype manually using "padsp skype" I get this:  /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/pulseaudio/libpulsedsp.so cannot be preloaded, wrong elf class (ELFCLASS64)
[23:10] <daftykins> Viking667: i'm afraid i find it unlikely anyone would provide support for Skype in here due to being third party :(
[23:11] <Viking667> even Microsoft's not providing skype help for 64-bit platforms, except to make sure that 32-bit libraries are installed.
[23:11] <Viking667> and that's where I seem to have hit a snag.
[23:11] <imvladimir> even acrobat doesn’t edit PDF well
[23:11] <ChibaPet> Viking667: that error is talking about a 64-bit library - I think you might be barking up the wrong tree there
[23:12] <imvladimir> can’t somebody like batch every PDF on the web to PS so we can finally kill it?
[23:12] <Viking667> I'm on a 64-bit install, that's partly why. I don't knwo why pulseaudio isn't trying to load the 32-bit variant instead...
[23:12] <ChibaPet> Viking667: I don't have it installed at present, but when you run it, do you see Pulse as an available option in audio sources?
[23:12] <Viking667> nope.
[23:12] <Viking667> ... though I do on my 32-bit install, but the wife doesn't have that.
[23:12] <reaga> help, i want to install wine
[23:12] <reaga> but it wont work
[23:13] <Viking667> define "won't work"
[23:13] <reaga> when i try it says i have broken packages :(
[23:13] <Viking667> outside my realm of expertise.
[23:13] <ChibaPet> Viking667: I'll try to get it running on my laptop once I've figured out how to get my partitioning like I want it.
[23:13] <Viking667> ..... I wish I knew how to fix that.
[23:13] <Viking667> right. I'll stick around in here then.
[23:13] <mrspanko> is anyone willing to help me with a USB boot problem?
[23:13] <reaga> it says "the following packages have unmet dependencies. wine: depends: wine1.4 but it is not going to be installed. e: unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages"
[23:14] <reaga> thats after i typed sudo apt-get install wine
[23:14] <ChibaPet> reaga: apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade - both after you remove non-Ubuntu repos from your sources.list
[23:15] <lamrz> kostkon, I need the IP address of my connection, I couldnt find it in logs..
[23:15] <lamrz> in syslog, I mean
[23:15] <ChibaPet> Heh, so the server media gives me the standard Debian installer.
[23:16] <ChibaPet> Or something close anyway.
[23:16] <mrspanko> Using YUMI I have made a bootable USB with xubuntu iso yet no computer in my house will recognzie it as bootable HELP
[23:17] <imvladimir> how did you try to boot it?
[23:17] <mrspanko> insert, boot order "removable"
[23:17] <mrspanko> BIOS says "no bootable device detected
[23:18] <imvladimir> try a different port maybe
[23:18] <imvladimir> preferably one on the back if it’s a desktop
[23:18] <mrspanko> I did that, also tried several differant computers (all ubuntu) and a diff USB stick
[23:18] <mexi_d3> OerHeks: In chrome i can type into these boxes and submit the form online. I can't in firefox with flash. http://help.adobe.com/en_US/Acrobat/9.0/Samples/interactiveform_enabled.pdf
[23:19] <imvladimir> not every computer supports USB booting
[23:19] <mrspanko> I installed Ubuntu on this machine via USB stick
[23:19] <imvladimir> mexi_d3: doesn’t evince do that?
[23:20] <mexi_d3> imvladimir: online?
[23:20] <imvladimir> why online?
[23:20] <mexi_d3> OerHeks: s/flash/pdf
[23:20] <mexi_d3> imvladimir: Because some websites requires it? :-)
[23:20] <imvladimir> never seen that
[23:20] <imvladimir> but there’s tons of plugins for PDF
[23:21] <daftykins> mrspanko: was the flash drive formatted as FAT32 prior to running YUMI?
[23:21] <capella> my touchpad stopped working today after a reboot ... but it works when booting into Win ... everything looks good but: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/5387681
[23:21] <capella> I'm wondering if I upgrade from 12.04 to like 12.10 it might automagically correct ... or maybe (sighs) a whole new install
[23:21] <mrspanko> daftykins yes
[23:21] <capella> kinda drastic for a touchpad
[23:22] <mrspanko> I have tried FAT, FAT32 and ext4... same results
[23:22] <daftykins> mrspanko: and you're sure this drive doesn't emulate a hard disk?
[23:23] <mrspanko> This machine was an XP PC and I used YUMI and this USB disk to instal Ubuntu, now it does not work
[23:23] <OerHeks> mexi_d3, standard documentviewer can edit that pdf fine, just saying there are more choices than chrome. even if you fill out that form, it needs to be send anyway
[23:23] <lamrz> I find SSIDs but, they dont tell me about the IP address..
[23:23] <daftykins> mrspanko: used an ubuntu system to 'dd' the image directly onto the root device rather than use Windows utilities?
[23:23] <mexi_d3> mexi_d3: Chrome can fill it out online, on the website. So you don't have to download it and email it. Some websites require you to fill them out online.
[23:23] <lamrz> they only show the name of the network
[23:23] <mrspanko> I have not done that. How is it doen?
[23:23] <mrspanko> done
[23:24] <mexi_d3> OerHeks: Apologies for double post but it appears I can't get names right today. How do you fill that form out ONLINE with evince?
[23:24] <OerHeks> mexi_d3, there is no such thing, filling in online pdf
[23:24] <ChibaPet> And now I worry, as the installer formats bits of my disk.
[23:25] <mexi_d3> OerHeks: You've just seen it.
[23:25] <ChibaPet> Funny that the server image has no issue at all doing LVM-on-LUKS, but the desktop image has no such concept.
[23:25] <daftykins> mrspanko: plug it in, fully format the drive as FAT32... then open a terminal in the folder where your ISO is, identify the device name of the flash drive (e.g. /dev/sdx) and run "sudo dd if=/path/to/file.iso of=/dev/sdx"
[23:25] <mrspanko> Ok thank you will do that right now
[23:26] <daftykins> mrspanko: but yeah, a BIOS only referring to 'removable devices' is a little doubtful in my mind. does this system, or any, have a keypress to bring up a one-time boot menu?
[23:26] <mrspanko> yes it does...
[23:27] <mrspanko> Bios is also set to boot from "removable" first, and in the past this has worked
[23:27] <PatrickDickey> What would cause my Nvidia GT 610 to lock the entire computer up at the Xubuntu splash screen, when using the nvidia proprietary drivers?
[23:28] <willyg_cos> lamrz: try running "ifconfig" from a command line
[23:28] <daftykins> PatrickDickey: is that a desktop discrete PCI-Express card?
[23:29] <PatrickDickey> It's a desktop PCI card (not PCI-Express)
[23:30] <daftykins> i didn't think they made standard PCI of that O_O
[23:30] <PatrickDickey> Yeah, I was shocked too.
[23:30] <daftykins> PatrickDickey: can you get to a TTY to pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[23:30] <keevitaja> hi, is there a hexchat indicator for the panel?
[23:31] <__llort__> If i execute a command in terminal and then the program asks for a user input, is there any way to put that input as part of the initial command so that the information is automatically entered ?
[23:32] <PatrickDickey> daftykins no I can't. It's completely locked up (crashed, dead in the water, etc). I can boot to a failsafe mode, and copy it from there though.
[23:32] <daftykins> __llort__: which command? perhaps if you read the man page or documentation on it, it will explain how
[23:32] <daftykins> PatrickDickey: yeah whichever way works
[23:34] <mojtaba> I am running ubuntu 14.04 LTS on Dell Studio 1555; the problem is that most of the time when I turn on my laptop the wireless is disabled and cannot be enabled until I suspend the laptop and login again. Does anybody know what is the problem and how can I solve this issue?
[23:35] <MichaelOx> Hi guys
[23:35] <TeraJL> Jordan_U: is there any way to fix it? i've tried to run "check" with gparted but it crashes
[23:35] <MichaelOx> I have just installed viber on ubuntu
[23:35] <MichaelOx> but it shows a very annoying icon at the upper left
[23:35] <MichaelOx> does anyone know how to remove that:?
[23:36] <Viking667> MichaelOx: is this on a tablet?
[23:36] <Viking667> ... or have they got a desktop applet now too?
[23:36] <MichaelOx> no, I have installed in on VMware at my laptop
[23:37] <MichaelOx> yes, it is a linux client
[23:37] <MichaelOx> http://www.viber.com/products/linux/
[23:37] <daftykins> so it's not in the official repos?
[23:38] <daftykins> yeah just a deb download
[23:38] <ChibaPet> Well, that's no fun. Ubuntu blew up my MacOS rescue image, but didn't install itself in such a way as to be an option at boot time. Sigh.
[23:38] <daftykins> can't really support anything third party in here i'm afraid
[23:38] <__llort__> daftykins, sort of a bad example but lets say i  want the password entered automatically when i connect via SSH
[23:38] <schnoodles> Hello I am currently using ubuntu as my every day operating system but I also have a couple other partitions with linux on it. Just wondering what is the best way to clear those and if it will not effect grub or what not. I was thinking about just using gparted?
[23:39] <daftykins> __llort__: hehe, bad because i'd suggest using key auth instead?
[23:39] <MichaelOx> It's a program very commonly used... I just want to see if somebody else had the same problem and how he/she solved it
[23:39] <__llort__> daftykins, i don't really care about security in this case it's just a small experiment then im disabling the server
[23:40] <Viking667> it can't be "very commonly used" .... this is actually the first time I've even heard of viber.
[23:40] <PatrickDickey> daftykins http://paste.ubuntu.com/7626043/ Earlier I was getting an error about not finding the module in the kernel.
[23:40] <daftykins> __llort__: sorry, i tend to have no sympathy for laziness :> no ideas come to mind for SSH beyond key auth as mentioned
[23:40] <PatrickDickey> MichaelOx what does it do?
[23:41] <__llort__> daftykins, to be honest the service i'm using doesn't even allow it, only passwords it seems
[23:41] <Viking667> it's another  messaging and calling app
[23:42] <MichaelOx> @Viking667. It is. It has over 200.000.000 users only on android...
[23:42] <MichaelOx> it's a messaging app
[23:42] <MichaelOx> like whatsup
[23:42] <Viking667> yeah, I found out THAT much...
[23:42] <MichaelOx> *whatsapp
[23:43] <daftykins> PatrickDickey: you're aware you have read-only in your kernel boot options?
[23:43] <Viking667> can I view the source code?
[23:43] <Viking667> daftykins: read-only's been standard since I was running kernel 1.0.9
[23:43] <PatrickDickey> Could that just be because it's booting in recovery mode? I can check my grub configuration, if necessary.
[23:44] <daftykins> PatrickDickey: oh yes, heh - my bad. so lines 116-118 are pretty damning
[23:44] <lamrz> willyg_cos, I am not looking to find my current IP, but one from about 10 days ago
[23:45] <PatrickDickey> Ok, so how do I fix that? As far as I know, it built the modules fine. I've blacklisted the nouveau drivers (or at least I did earlier, I thought).
[23:45] <daftykins> did you install from a manual download or the correct package?
[23:45] <PatrickDickey> This time from a manual download, but it happens with the repository packages also.
[23:46] <PatrickDickey> The nouveau driver works sort of. I tried watching a DVD, and it was choppy. Like watching through a strobe light type of choppy.
[23:47] <daftykins> PatrickDickey: what cable type is your display connected to this PCI card via?
[23:47] <Viking667> VGA-15, or DVI? (Or perhaps even HDMI?)
[23:48] <Viking667> that's for Patrick.
[23:48]  * capella wah ... I want my touchpad back
[23:49] <ChibaPet> I want my laptop back. :) Oh well, Mac Internet Recovery only has 29 more minutes to load.
[23:49] <PatrickDickey> daftykins and Viking667 it's a DVI cable to a HDMI port on the tv. It doesn't work if I use VGA either.
[23:50] <Viking667> And you've obviously reseated both ends of the cable securely?
[23:50] <Viking667> ... reseated the card in its slot securely?
[23:50] <daftykins> PatrickDickey: well, the kernel module isn't there regardless... how many kernel versions are in /boot ?
[23:50] <PatrickDickey> Also, I checked in /var/lib/dkms/nvidia/331.79/3.13.0-29-generic/ and there are modules in there.
[23:50] <capella> oh heh - yah thats worse ... I rebooted and the touchpad stopped working ... booting to Win it functions though
[23:50] <PatrickDickey> Yep, I've done all of that.
[23:51] <lamrz> sorry for asking again, is there a way to extract the IP address of an earlier network connection, i.e. from the logs on my computer?
[23:51] <Viking667> patrickdickey: so, does the machine lock up altogether once it hits display-time? do you get any text messages scrolling up the screen from boot time?
[23:52] <MichaelOx> Viking667 and PatrickDickey as I can not ask at the ubuntu channel at IRC, who else might be able to help me with my problem?
[23:52] <PatrickDickey> The only thing that shows up is something about via-ircc not being able to reserve an IRQ setting. Then I get the Xubuntu splash screen, and that's all she wrote. Either it locks up there, or goes to a black screen with a flashing cursor.
[23:52] <Viking667> MichaelOx: you've checked the FAQ?
[23:53] <daftykins> PatrickDickey: the Xorg log definitely says to check the kernel log
[23:53] <Viking667> Can you go Ctl-Alt-F1   and log in on a text login?
[23:53] <PatrickDickey> daftykins that would be /var/log/kern.log right?
[23:53] <daftykins> PatrickDickey: probably :D
[23:53] <PatrickDickey> Viking667 when it locks up, no. The only way I can do anything is from the recovery mode.
[23:54]  * Viking667 scratches head.
[23:54] <Viking667> okay. Any other video cards in the system? i.e. any on the motherboard?
[23:54] <Viking667> PatrickDickey: ... or just the single PCI video card?
[23:55] <PatrickDickey> There's a built-in one also.
[23:55] <PatrickDickey> But, I have it set to check the PCI slot first in BIOS.
[23:55] <daftykins> what kind? is it disabled via BIOS?
[23:55] <Viking667> I was about to ask that.
[23:55]  * daftykins climbs out of Viking667's head
[23:55] <PatrickDickey> Savage S3 (it's an older computer)
[23:55] <Viking667> wow. That IS old.
[23:56] <Viking667> I don't even think that qualifies as PCI, that's more likely to be AGP.
[23:56] <PatrickDickey> This happened on another computer that didn't have a built-in card either.
[23:56] <Viking667> hm.
[23:56] <PatrickDickey> Yeah, the Savage is AGP.
[23:56] <Viking667> how come you're not going with the Savage?
[23:56] <PatrickDickey> Also, all that's in the kern.log (at least from running tail) is a bunch of apparmor entries.
[23:57] <PatrickDickey> I tried it, and the colors were screwed up. Like unreadable. Also the only reason I'm trying it on this computer is for airflow. The other computer is pretty much sealed up (Dell Dimension).
[23:58] <lamrz> if I reinstalled my system, would the IP address appear as different from the one in the last system, for the same device and same wi-fi connection?
[23:58] <mexi_d3> PCI was the thing we had before AGP. Modern one is PCIE.
[23:58] <mexi_d3> ISA > PCI > AGP > PCIE
[23:58] <ChibaPet> lamrz: It could, yes.
[23:58] <lamrz> ChibaPet, so it is not so for sure?
[23:58] <daftykins> PatrickDickey: honestly, i wouldn't be surprised if there's some quirk with PCI cards in this day and age
[23:59] <Viking667> Well, I can't help any further, sorry about that.
[23:59] <ChibaPet> lamrz: It depends on how long the dhcp server saves the lease, and whether or not someone else has taken it since you were gone. Chances are you'll have the same address, but it's not guaranteed and you shouldn't depend on it.
[23:59] <Viking667> MichaelOx: is your only complaint the size of the app's icon?