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soeegood morning06:31
valorie!info kdebluetooth07:00
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yofel!info bluedevil trusty | valorie07:12
ubottuvalorie: bluedevil (source: bluedevil): KDE Bluetooth stack. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0~rc1really1.3.2-0ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 342 kB, installed size 2493 kB (Only available for linux-any)07:12
yofelthat ?07:12
apacheloggerRiddell: tarme is noop waiting for you to tell me whether it seems to do the right things and what is missing07:17
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valorie!info linux-firmware-nonfree08:18
ubottulinux-firmware-nonfree (source: linux-firmware-nonfree): Non-free firmware for Linux kernel drivers. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.14ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 3850 kB, installed size 8771 kB08:18
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Riddellapachelogger: pushing tags is missing :)09:28
Riddellahoneybun: yes but not for the 5.0 release09:34
shadeslayerMirv: did you meet apol ?09:38
Mirvshadeslayer: yes I did, he has the Nexus 10 now09:47
shadeslayerawesome09:47
Mirvindeed, now I have room in my hand luggage for the Qt sweater :)09:48
shadeslayerhahah09:49
apacheloggeroh10:03
apacheloggerRiddell: did I actually push tagme?10:03
apacheloggerbecause git says I didn't10:03
Riddellapachelogger: I'm using the version in the rewrite branch10:04
apacheloggerRiddell: and that has tagme?10:05
Riddellapachelogger: oh no, it has tarme10:05
apacheloggerright10:05
apacheloggerRiddell: pushed the noop version10:06
apacheloggerrun it first and make sure the commands it prints seem sensible10:06
Riddell./tagme.rb --help10:07
RiddellUsage: tarme.rb10:07
Riddellhmm10:07
soeewhe will you move 4.13.2 to trusty updates ? :)10:07
Riddellsoee: hang on, yofel only packaged it yesterday10:08
soeeyes i know ;)10:08
apacheloggerRiddell: --origin --version10:08
soeetested it @home10:09
Riddellapachelogger: so what will happen if I run  ./tagme.rb --origin trunk --version 4.97.0 kde/workspace ?10:09
apacheloggerit will ignore kde/workspace and tag 4.97.010:09
apacheloggerwell, it will print the commands for tagging10:10
apacheloggerit will not actually push anything10:10
Riddellapachelogger: it didn't do anything10:10
apacheloggerrelease_data is present?10:10
apacheloggertagme works on the data in release_data, which is why it will ignore kde/workspace10:10
Riddellapachelogger: breakage http://paste.kde.org/pkfbqm2nb10:11
BluesKaj'Morning folks10:11
apacheloggerRiddell: ruby -v10:12
Riddellruby 2.1.1p76 (2014-02-24) [x86_64-linux-gnu]10:12
apacheloggerpeculiar10:13
apacheloggerRiddell: please paste your release_data10:13
Riddellooh it works if I remove breeze which I already pushed the tag to10:14
apacheloggerit wouldn't care at that point, please post the release_data with breeze10:14
Riddellapachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/pri6oryss10:15
Riddellapachelogger: so now commands look like this http://paste.kde.org/p5tz5yrkp10:16
apacheloggercan't reproduce this10:16
apacheloggerRiddell: maybe your network crapped out?10:16
Riddellapachelogger: do we not use annotated tags?10:16
Riddellapachelogger: maybe, I am in the office shared with lots of other people10:17
apacheloggerwe probably do10:17
apacheloggeralso the push is wrong10:17
apacheloggeralso signed tags I think10:17
Riddellgit push --tags  should be fine I think10:17
apachelogger--tags origin actually10:17
apacheloggerone can configure git to not push to origin by default10:18
Riddellgit es loco10:20
apacheloggerit's very recommendable when one tends to work with multiple remotes as otherwise one can easily end up pushing to the wrong remote etc.10:21
apacheloggerRiddell: new version10:21
Riddell./tagme.rb --origin trunk --version 4.97.0 kde/workspace10:22
Riddell./tagme.rb:34:in `<main>': invalid option: --origin (OptionParser::InvalidOption)10:22
apacheloggerRiddell: tagme --version 4.97.010:24
apacheloggerI removed the pointless arguments10:25
apacheloggertechnically it probably also should pass the version information through release_data10:25
apacheloggerso that might go away as well10:25
apacheloggerI also pushed a possible fix for your nilclass problem, it will now keep retrying to resolve the project on failure10:26
Riddellyes please, currently I'll have to do libkscreen and oxygen-fonts separately10:26
apacheloggerRiddell: how so?10:26
Riddelldifferent version numbers10:26
apacheloggergross10:27
Riddellyou know these upstreams...10:27
apacheloggerso you manually meddle with release_data?10:27
Riddellyes, I have to, not everything is in kde/workspace too10:28
* apachelogger ponders converting the data into json and introduce more attributes such as bool:tagged10:28
apacheloggerperhaps ultimately it should be an indefinite amount of files tracking release artifacts of $project invocations10:29
Riddell1 release_data file is fine, just don't wipe it on each run10:30
Riddellappend to it instead10:30
apacheloggerso you'd have release-data/kde_workspace and release-data/libkscreen and release_data/oxygen-fonts10:30
apacheloggeryou'd then invoke tagme three times a la tagme kde/workspace and tagme libkscreen and tagme oxygen-fonts10:30
Riddellthat could work10:30
apacheloggerthat way the wiping also wouldn't matter because different release artifacts do not overwrite one another10:31
RiddellI also have the issue that kde/workspace contains kwindowsaddons which I don't want to releasae10:31
Riddellapachelogger: anyway, this is fine for now, can you change it so the commands get run?10:31
apacheloggerRiddell: if it is not part of the workspace release set it probably shouldn't be in workspace 10:32
Riddellit is part of the workspace release set, just not yet10:32
apacheloggerRiddell: pushed10:32
apacheloggerRiddell: I am also not sure how to handle tarball redoing actually10:33
Riddellapachelogger: waa http://paste.kde.org/puzuxican10:33
apacheloggerRiddell: wrong url10:34
apacheloggergeee10:34
Riddelldo we really want anongit ?10:34
apachelogger            if url.attribute('access').to_s == 'read-only' and10:34
apachelogger                url.attribute('protocol').to_s == 'git'10:34
apacheloggercan one actually clone from git@git.kde without ssh key?10:35
Riddellprobably not, but I have an ssh key10:35
apacheloggeryes, I am wondering for the rest of the world :P10:35
* apachelogger boots vm10:36
Riddellwho cares about the rest of the world, this is for people who have access surely?10:36
apacheloggerdistros like to use it as well, so that assumption is wrong10:37
apacheloggeryepyep, permission denied10:37
Riddellwho cares about distros! they should work upstream :)10:37
apacheloggerthis will need some refactoring10:37
Riddelluh oh10:38
apacheloggerRiddell: defaults to read+write now10:40
apacheloggeroh wait10:42
apacheloggerRiddell: bugged10:42
apacheloggerRiddell: fixed10:43
Riddellapachelogger: after a git pull10:44
Riddellhttp://paste.kde.org/p7pazny7c10:44
Riddellstill broken10:44
apacheloggerbrrrbrr10:44
apacheloggerRiddell: fixed10:45
Riddellapachelogger: even more breakage http://paste.kde.org/pgf83ph4u10:46
apacheloggerwell that makes no sense10:46
Riddellsi, git es loco10:47
apacheloggeroh, actually it does10:47
apacheloggerthe problem is that I don't remember when to use which class xD10:48
apacheloggerRiddell: fixed10:52
apacheloggerthis workarounding without writing tests makes me feel very dirty you know10:53
Riddellsomething is happening...10:53
Riddellhttp://paste.kde.org/pm67bbted10:53
Riddelllooking good10:53
Riddellapachelogger: but now it doesn't like oxygen-fonts http://paste.kde.org/pu3m9u4jc10:58
soeedo we have already unicord daily builds ?10:58
soee*n10:58
Riddellsoee: yep, but didn't work for me last week10:59
RiddellI just did a dist-upgrade10:59
soeeRiddell: ok nice, ill wait with dist-upgrade till first beta, now want to check in VM10:59
apacheloggerthat I can reproduce11:00
apacheloggerRiddell: I am not sure I wrote resolution code for projectnames ^^11:01
apacheloggerkdereview/oxygen-fonts11:02
apacheloggermust be foo/bar/project11:02
apacheloggerRiddell: best tag that manually11:02
apacheloggerthe resolution code needs severe algorithm refinement really11:03
apacheloggerultimately it would probably try component/module/project, and if not found traverse the scheme backwards until it finds a node with a qualifying path and then traverse down if there's subnodes11:04
apacheloggerthat way the resolution of tarme oxygen-fonts would also take the exactly same code paths as tarme kde/workspace even though they actually mean different things11:05
Riddellgroovy, all done11:09
Riddellthanks apachelogger 11:09
apacheloggerRiddell: I added a todo for the resolution algorithm improvements11:10
apacheloggerit's not too big a concern really, I think kderview and calligra are the only things not following the component/module business11:11
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sgclarkGood morning Riddell, did you have a chance to review the last two plasma packages? I am going to run them through pbuilder now.11:47
Riddellsgclark: I'm on plasma-desktop now11:48
Riddellworking through the build-depends11:48
sgclarkyeah that is what I use pbuilder for, just got so late11:48
sgclarkthank you11:48
sgclarkI will run powerdevil through11:49
Riddellsgclark: you must remember to sleep :)11:49
Riddellnot healthy to forget that too often11:49
sgclarkRiddell: :)11:49
sgclarkRiddell: I set up another computer for packaging, I could work on that in conjunction with kf5, where would I find the new calligra? uscan?11:52
Riddellsgclark: it's in utopic11:54
Riddellso I think it's just a case of adding a changelog entry for the backport and compiling to check it all compiles11:54
Riddellthen throw it into kubuntu-ppa/updates11:54
sgclarkRiddell: ok I will do that as well today :)11:55
Riddellsgclark: lovely11:55
Riddellsgclark: did you get plasma-desktop to compile?11:55
sgclarkRiddell: yep11:56
Riddellhmm fails here, probably something not installed but I don't know what http://paste.kde.org/p0npf10r512:13
tsimpsonprobably missing an #include <QVBoxLayout>12:25
sgclarkRiddell: try systemsettings depend12:25
Riddellapachelogger worked it out, missing a build-dep12:28
jussiRiddell: I have 9 shirts left, plus about 20 pages of stickers. I can pass them on to someone for continued sales or we can "buy" them and give them to desrving people12:38
jussioh and sgclark - thanks for your order! 12:38
jussiRiddell: I cannot take them with me, we have far too limited space12:38
Riddellcould be useful as prizes at akademy or similar12:41
Riddellalthough that would leave the question of how to get them to akademy12:41
RiddellseaLne: do you know if the akademy organisers are likely to be happy with storing a bag of 9 polo shirts until akademy?12:42
jussiI wonder if Tm_T is going? or any other Finns? 12:42
jussiI can also post them to the Barca office12:43
Riddellright, but wrong side of the continent for akademy :)12:43
Riddellalthough I expect kde es could make some use of them12:43
seaLneRiddell: try asking dvratil12:44
Riddellthere's probably enough people going from barcelona to take them in luggage12:45
seaLneprobably less hassle and chance of them getting lost between now and then12:45
jussithey are mostly womens style, so maybe we can use them for contributions from women or something to encourage women to contribute. I dunno.12:47
jussiits not going to be heavy - a pack of 9 shirts doesnt weigh much12:50
ScottKshadeslayer: You should send the vote reminder to the user list too.12:54
shadeslayerack12:54
Riddell13:46 < dvratil> Riddell, absolutely no problem, we can store anything in the RH office before Akademy, then just move it to the venue12:56
Riddelljussi: so that might be easiest ↑12:57
shadeslayerso ironic12:57
shadeslayerxnox: would be cool to have http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1406-unity8-desktop-preview-image in English12:59
apacheloggers/Notes/Notas13:01
apacheloggerI love it xD13:01
xnoxshadeslayer: haha, let me ping seb about it =)13:01
shadeslayer^_^13:03
xnoxshadeslayer: looks like some unnamed participats translated it13:05
shadeslayerxnox: http://i.imgur.com/oEaWmCI.jpg13:05
jussishadeslayer: I dont seem to have received a bollot...13:15
jussiballot even13:15
* shadeslayer looks13:16
shadeslayerjussi: email plz13:17
jussijussi01 at ubuntu com13:18
shadeslayerEmail:13:18
shadeslayer    No public address provided. 13:18
shadeslayerit's all your fault13:19
shadeslayerjussi: sent13:19
apacheloggerevery year the same 13:22
jussishadeslayer: voted13:26
shadeslayercool13:27
apacheloggerhttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-dev-tools/trunk/revision/19113:28
sgclarkcan anyone help me with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7628647/13:47
shadeslayerohoho13:51
shadeslayerfound a bug in wrap-and-sort13:51
* sgclark thinks wrap-and-sort is a bug13:52
shadeslayerrun wrap-and-sort on kdeplasma-addons13:52
shadeslayerfrom bzr13:52
sgclarkRiddell: powerdevil is ready for review. What next?13:56
sgclarkRiddell: I am looking at plasma-workspace, let me know if you do anything to it.14:09
Riddellsgclark: there's some conflicts that I don't think are necessary that I removed from plasma-workspace a few hours ago14:11
Riddelllet me know if you disagree14:11
sgclarkRiddell: nothing wrong with that, it is the fix-perms that is wreaking havoc. looking into it.14:13
Riddellsgclark: oh the one on currentColorFillFix.sh was failing yesterday so I made it override_dh_fixperms-indep14:14
Riddellwhich I think is the right way to say "only run this if building arch all packages"14:15
Riddellyeah looked like it worked but there's those other issues non-standard-dir-perm, good luck :)14:15
RiddellI'm renaming ksysguard binaries to not have a version number in them like ksysguard514:41
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Riddellanyone know why this watch file doesn't work?15:15
Riddellhttp://paste.kde.org/p8tqwmc3c15:17
sgclarkseems like it should15:23
Riddellsgclark: plasma-desktop uploaded!15:24
sgclarkyay!15:24
Riddellsgclark: you missed out the debian/source/format file in powerdevil, that's what was confusing it into thinking it was a native package15:29
* Riddell adds15:30
sgclarkRiddell: hmm wierd, wonder how it vanished. Thanks for finding the issue.15:31
Riddellprobably a missing bzr add15:32
Riddellsgclark: that seems to be all the packaging for plasma, the question now is does it actually run15:50
sgclarkRiddell: this fix_perms is still driving me crazy15:52
Riddellsgclark: one idea, override_dh_fixperms: doesnt have a $(overridden_command) any more, maybe that's the problem15:54
sgclarkRiddell: yeah trying that, so far randomly one works but breaks other.  still trying15:55
Riddellsgclark: I think I need to be off now, but I also noticed plasma-workspace is wanting Prison so you can add that as a build-dep16:04
sgclarkRiddell: ok no problem16:13
arpanis latest iso image of plasma5 is installable or just a live cd?16:17
arpani mean neon5 image16:19
Riddellarpan: should be installable16:20
arpanRiddell: thanks! let me download it and check it. Last time I tried it but it wasn't installable at that time.16:21
shadeslayeryou have to do some work in order to install it, it's not exactly straightforward16:28
arpanshadeslayer: what will i need to do for installing it?16:31
shadeslayerarpan: find the launcher for the installer and run it16:32
arpanok thanks shadeslayer! let me see if I can find the launcher.16:34
shadeslayerit's a desktop file16:34
yofelshadeslayer: does wrap-and-sort eat packages?17:14
shadeslayeryofel: and build deps17:15
yofelah, that's new17:15
shadeslayeryofel: see debian bug 74317417:15
ubottuDebian bug 743174 in python-debian "paragraph parsing truncates on comments" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/74317417:15
yofel"fun"17:15
shadeslayeror 75126017:15
* shadeslayer goes back to listening some CCR17:15
kubotufeed branches had 7 updates, showing the latest 617:26
jussiSo just was talking to someone here at a mongodb event who really wanted to buy support but didn't know it existed.  I think we should give the support thing a bit more advertisement on the web page and make it easier to find and buy.  Thoughts? 17:45
apacheloggerjussi: website -> support -> first thing is commercial support17:48
apacheloggerI don't see how it gets more visible than that17:48
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shadeslayeryo19:01
shadeslayerwhat's up with the docs roundtable19:01
shadeslayervalorie: ^^19:02
shadeslayerRiddell: yo19:08
shadeslayerRiddell: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/meeting/22242/community-1406-kubuntu-documentation-team/19:08
shadeslayerRiddell: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYcJruxQy3tuc0JL7-Q6EQzyP02oFJS0JqiRdfzgqnz76VTmPg?a19:09
shadeslayerif you want to join19:09
sgclarkok so clearly I need to get g+ hangouts working sorry guys and gals19:55
valoriesgclark: they will only work in Firefox for me22:16
valorieand even still, my nice USB headphones only partly work22:17
valoriemic works great!22:17
valoriebut sound doesn't come through22:17
sgclarkyeah my usb headphones did not work and ahh firefox, seems google chrome would work for g+ lol22:17
valorieit does sometimes22:25
valoriejust not right now22:25
valoriethey keep breaking their own services for some reason22:25
valoriefor me at least22:25
valoriecrazy22:25
valorieI use chromium, but still22:25
valorieapachelogger: I clone all the time without ssh -- you have to have the key to push though22:50

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