[06:31] <soee> good morning
[07:00] <valorie> !info kdebluetooth
[07:00] <valorie> yeah
[07:12] <yofel> !info bluedevil trusty | valorie
[07:12] <yofel> that ?
[07:17] <apachelogger> Riddell: tarme is noop waiting for you to tell me whether it seems to do the right things and what is missing
[08:18] <valorie> !info linux-firmware-nonfree
[09:28] <Riddell> apachelogger: pushing tags is missing :)
[09:34] <Riddell> ahoneybun: yes but not for the 5.0 release
[09:38] <shadeslayer> Mirv: did you meet apol ?
[09:47] <Mirv> shadeslayer: yes I did, he has the Nexus 10 now
[09:47] <shadeslayer> awesome
[09:48] <Mirv> indeed, now I have room in my hand luggage for the Qt sweater :)
[09:49] <shadeslayer> hahah
[10:03] <apachelogger> oh
[10:03] <apachelogger> Riddell: did I actually push tagme?
[10:03] <apachelogger> because git says I didn't
[10:04] <Riddell> apachelogger: I'm using the version in the rewrite branch
[10:05] <apachelogger> Riddell: and that has tagme?
[10:05] <Riddell> apachelogger: oh no, it has tarme
[10:05] <apachelogger> right
[10:06] <apachelogger> Riddell: pushed the noop version
[10:06] <apachelogger> run it first and make sure the commands it prints seem sensible
[10:07] <Riddell> ./tagme.rb --help
[10:07] <Riddell> Usage: tarme.rb
[10:07] <Riddell> hmm
[10:07] <soee> whe will you move 4.13.2 to trusty updates ? :)
[10:08] <Riddell> soee: hang on, yofel only packaged it yesterday
[10:08] <soee> yes i know ;)
[10:08] <apachelogger> Riddell: --origin --version
[10:09] <soee> tested it @home
[10:09] <Riddell> apachelogger: so what will happen if I run  ./tagme.rb --origin trunk --version 4.97.0 kde/workspace ?
[10:09] <apachelogger> it will ignore kde/workspace and tag 4.97.0
[10:10] <apachelogger> well, it will print the commands for tagging
[10:10] <apachelogger> it will not actually push anything
[10:10] <Riddell> apachelogger: it didn't do anything
[10:10] <apachelogger> release_data is present?
[10:10] <apachelogger> tagme works on the data in release_data, which is why it will ignore kde/workspace
[10:11] <Riddell> apachelogger: breakage http://paste.kde.org/pkfbqm2nb
[10:11] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[10:12] <apachelogger> Riddell: ruby -v
[10:12] <Riddell> ruby 2.1.1p76 (2014-02-24) [x86_64-linux-gnu]
[10:13] <apachelogger> peculiar
[10:13] <apachelogger> Riddell: please paste your release_data
[10:14] <Riddell> ooh it works if I remove breeze which I already pushed the tag to
[10:14] <apachelogger> it wouldn't care at that point, please post the release_data with breeze
[10:15] <Riddell> apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/pri6oryss
[10:16] <Riddell> apachelogger: so now commands look like this http://paste.kde.org/p5tz5yrkp
[10:16] <apachelogger> can't reproduce this
[10:16] <apachelogger> Riddell: maybe your network crapped out?
[10:16] <Riddell> apachelogger: do we not use annotated tags?
[10:17] <Riddell> apachelogger: maybe, I am in the office shared with lots of other people
[10:17] <apachelogger> we probably do
[10:17] <apachelogger> also the push is wrong
[10:17] <apachelogger> also signed tags I think
[10:17] <Riddell> git push --tags  should be fine I think
[10:17] <apachelogger> --tags origin actually
[10:18] <apachelogger> one can configure git to not push to origin by default
[10:20] <Riddell> git es loco
[10:21] <apachelogger> it's very recommendable when one tends to work with multiple remotes as otherwise one can easily end up pushing to the wrong remote etc.
[10:21] <apachelogger> Riddell: new version
[10:22] <Riddell> ./tagme.rb --origin trunk --version 4.97.0 kde/workspace
[10:22] <Riddell> ./tagme.rb:34:in `<main>': invalid option: --origin (OptionParser::InvalidOption)
[10:24] <apachelogger> Riddell: tagme --version 4.97.0
[10:25] <apachelogger> I removed the pointless arguments
[10:25] <apachelogger> technically it probably also should pass the version information through release_data
[10:25] <apachelogger> so that might go away as well
[10:26] <apachelogger> I also pushed a possible fix for your nilclass problem, it will now keep retrying to resolve the project on failure
[10:26] <Riddell> yes please, currently I'll have to do libkscreen and oxygen-fonts separately
[10:26] <apachelogger> Riddell: how so?
[10:26] <Riddell> different version numbers
[10:27] <apachelogger> gross
[10:27] <Riddell> you know these upstreams...
[10:27] <apachelogger> so you manually meddle with release_data?
[10:28] <Riddell> yes, I have to, not everything is in kde/workspace too
[10:28]  * apachelogger ponders converting the data into json and introduce more attributes such as bool:tagged
[10:29] <apachelogger> perhaps ultimately it should be an indefinite amount of files tracking release artifacts of $project invocations
[10:30] <Riddell> 1 release_data file is fine, just don't wipe it on each run
[10:30] <Riddell> append to it instead
[10:30] <apachelogger> so you'd have release-data/kde_workspace and release-data/libkscreen and release_data/oxygen-fonts
[10:30] <apachelogger> you'd then invoke tagme three times a la tagme kde/workspace and tagme libkscreen and tagme oxygen-fonts
[10:30] <Riddell> that could work
[10:31] <apachelogger> that way the wiping also wouldn't matter because different release artifacts do not overwrite one another
[10:31] <Riddell> I also have the issue that kde/workspace contains kwindowsaddons which I don't want to releasae
[10:31] <Riddell> apachelogger: anyway, this is fine for now, can you change it so the commands get run?
[10:32] <apachelogger> Riddell: if it is not part of the workspace release set it probably shouldn't be in workspace 
[10:32] <Riddell> it is part of the workspace release set, just not yet
[10:32] <apachelogger> Riddell: pushed
[10:33] <apachelogger> Riddell: I am also not sure how to handle tarball redoing actually
[10:33] <Riddell> apachelogger: waa http://paste.kde.org/puzuxican
[10:34] <apachelogger> Riddell: wrong url
[10:34] <apachelogger> geee
[10:34] <Riddell> do we really want anongit ?
[10:34] <apachelogger>             if url.attribute('access').to_s == 'read-only' and
[10:34] <apachelogger>                 url.attribute('protocol').to_s == 'git'
[10:35] <apachelogger> can one actually clone from git@git.kde without ssh key?
[10:35] <Riddell> probably not, but I have an ssh key
[10:35] <apachelogger> yes, I am wondering for the rest of the world :P
[10:36]  * apachelogger boots vm
[10:36] <Riddell> who cares about the rest of the world, this is for people who have access surely?
[10:37] <apachelogger> distros like to use it as well, so that assumption is wrong
[10:37] <apachelogger> yepyep, permission denied
[10:37] <Riddell> who cares about distros! they should work upstream :)
[10:37] <apachelogger> this will need some refactoring
[10:38] <Riddell> uh oh
[10:40] <apachelogger> Riddell: defaults to read+write now
[10:42] <apachelogger> oh wait
[10:42] <apachelogger> Riddell: bugged
[10:43] <apachelogger> Riddell: fixed
[10:44] <Riddell> apachelogger: after a git pull
[10:44] <Riddell> http://paste.kde.org/p7pazny7c
[10:44] <Riddell> still broken
[10:44] <apachelogger> brrrbrr
[10:45] <apachelogger> Riddell: fixed
[10:46] <Riddell> apachelogger: even more breakage http://paste.kde.org/pgf83ph4u
[10:46] <apachelogger> well that makes no sense
[10:47] <Riddell> si, git es loco
[10:47] <apachelogger> oh, actually it does
[10:48] <apachelogger> the problem is that I don't remember when to use which class xD
[10:52] <apachelogger> Riddell: fixed
[10:53] <apachelogger> this workarounding without writing tests makes me feel very dirty you know
[10:53] <Riddell> something is happening...
[10:53] <Riddell> http://paste.kde.org/pm67bbted
[10:53] <Riddell> looking good
[10:58] <Riddell> apachelogger: but now it doesn't like oxygen-fonts http://paste.kde.org/pu3m9u4jc
[10:58] <soee> do we have already unicord daily builds ?
[10:58] <soee> *n
[10:59] <Riddell> soee: yep, but didn't work for me last week
[10:59] <Riddell> I just did a dist-upgrade
[10:59] <soee> Riddell: ok nice, ill wait with dist-upgrade till first beta, now want to check in VM
[11:00] <apachelogger> that I can reproduce
[11:01] <apachelogger> Riddell: I am not sure I wrote resolution code for projectnames ^^
[11:02] <apachelogger> kdereview/oxygen-fonts
[11:02] <apachelogger> must be foo/bar/project
[11:02] <apachelogger> Riddell: best tag that manually
[11:03] <apachelogger> the resolution code needs severe algorithm refinement really
[11:04] <apachelogger> ultimately it would probably try component/module/project, and if not found traverse the scheme backwards until it finds a node with a qualifying path and then traverse down if there's subnodes
[11:05] <apachelogger> that way the resolution of tarme oxygen-fonts would also take the exactly same code paths as tarme kde/workspace even though they actually mean different things
[11:09] <Riddell> groovy, all done
[11:09] <Riddell> thanks apachelogger 
[11:10] <apachelogger> Riddell: I added a todo for the resolution algorithm improvements
[11:11] <apachelogger> it's not too big a concern really, I think kderview and calligra are the only things not following the component/module business
[11:47] <sgclark> Good morning Riddell, did you have a chance to review the last two plasma packages? I am going to run them through pbuilder now.
[11:48] <Riddell> sgclark: I'm on plasma-desktop now
[11:48] <Riddell> working through the build-depends
[11:48] <sgclark> yeah that is what I use pbuilder for, just got so late
[11:48] <sgclark> thank you
[11:49] <sgclark> I will run powerdevil through
[11:49] <Riddell> sgclark: you must remember to sleep :)
[11:49] <Riddell> not healthy to forget that too often
[11:49] <sgclark> Riddell: :)
[11:52] <sgclark> Riddell: I set up another computer for packaging, I could work on that in conjunction with kf5, where would I find the new calligra? uscan?
[11:54] <Riddell> sgclark: it's in utopic
[11:54] <Riddell> so I think it's just a case of adding a changelog entry for the backport and compiling to check it all compiles
[11:54] <Riddell> then throw it into kubuntu-ppa/updates
[11:55] <sgclark> Riddell: ok I will do that as well today :)
[11:55] <Riddell> sgclark: lovely
[11:55] <Riddell> sgclark: did you get plasma-desktop to compile?
[11:56] <sgclark> Riddell: yep
[12:13] <Riddell> hmm fails here, probably something not installed but I don't know what http://paste.kde.org/p0npf10r5
[12:25] <tsimpson> probably missing an #include <QVBoxLayout>
[12:25] <sgclark> Riddell: try systemsettings depend
[12:28] <Riddell> apachelogger worked it out, missing a build-dep
[12:38] <jussi> Riddell: I have 9 shirts left, plus about 20 pages of stickers. I can pass them on to someone for continued sales or we can "buy" them and give them to desrving people
[12:38] <jussi> oh and sgclark - thanks for your order! 
[12:38] <jussi> Riddell: I cannot take them with me, we have far too limited space
[12:41] <Riddell> could be useful as prizes at akademy or similar
[12:41] <Riddell> although that would leave the question of how to get them to akademy
[12:42] <Riddell> seaLne: do you know if the akademy organisers are likely to be happy with storing a bag of 9 polo shirts until akademy?
[12:42] <jussi> I wonder if Tm_T is going? or any other Finns? 
[12:43] <jussi> I can also post them to the Barca office
[12:43] <Riddell> right, but wrong side of the continent for akademy :)
[12:43] <Riddell> although I expect kde es could make some use of them
[12:44] <seaLne> Riddell: try asking dvratil
[12:45] <Riddell> there's probably enough people going from barcelona to take them in luggage
[12:45] <seaLne> probably less hassle and chance of them getting lost between now and then
[12:47] <jussi> they are mostly womens style, so maybe we can use them for contributions from women or something to encourage women to contribute. I dunno.
[12:50] <jussi> its not going to be heavy - a pack of 9 shirts doesnt weigh much
[12:54] <ScottK> shadeslayer: You should send the vote reminder to the user list too.
[12:54] <shadeslayer> ack
[12:56] <Riddell> 13:46 < dvratil> Riddell, absolutely no problem, we can store anything in the RH office before Akademy, then just move it to the venue
[12:57] <Riddell> jussi: so that might be easiest ↑
[12:57] <shadeslayer> so ironic
[12:59] <shadeslayer> xnox: would be cool to have http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1406-unity8-desktop-preview-image in English
[13:01] <apachelogger> s/Notes/Notas
[13:01] <apachelogger> I love it xD
[13:01] <xnox> shadeslayer: haha, let me ping seb about it =)
[13:03] <shadeslayer> ^_^
[13:05] <xnox> shadeslayer: looks like some unnamed participats translated it
[13:05] <shadeslayer> xnox: http://i.imgur.com/oEaWmCI.jpg
[13:15] <jussi> shadeslayer: I dont seem to have received a bollot...
[13:15] <jussi> ballot even
[13:16]  * shadeslayer looks
[13:17] <shadeslayer> jussi: email plz
[13:18] <jussi> jussi01 at ubuntu com
[13:18] <shadeslayer> Email:
[13:18] <shadeslayer>     No public address provided. 
[13:19] <shadeslayer> it's all your fault
[13:19] <shadeslayer> jussi: sent
[13:22] <apachelogger> every year the same 
[13:26] <jussi> shadeslayer: voted
[13:27] <shadeslayer> cool
[13:28] <apachelogger> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-dev-tools/trunk/revision/191
[13:47] <sgclark> can anyone help me with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7628647/
[13:51] <shadeslayer> ohoho
[13:51] <shadeslayer> found a bug in wrap-and-sort
[13:52]  * sgclark thinks wrap-and-sort is a bug
[13:52] <shadeslayer> run wrap-and-sort on kdeplasma-addons
[13:52] <shadeslayer> from bzr
[13:56] <sgclark> Riddell: powerdevil is ready for review. What next?
[14:09] <sgclark> Riddell: I am looking at plasma-workspace, let me know if you do anything to it.
[14:11] <Riddell> sgclark: there's some conflicts that I don't think are necessary that I removed from plasma-workspace a few hours ago
[14:11] <Riddell> let me know if you disagree
[14:13] <sgclark> Riddell: nothing wrong with that, it is the fix-perms that is wreaking havoc. looking into it.
[14:14] <Riddell> sgclark: oh the one on currentColorFillFix.sh was failing yesterday so I made it override_dh_fixperms-indep
[14:15] <Riddell> which I think is the right way to say "only run this if building arch all packages"
[14:15] <Riddell> yeah looked like it worked but there's those other issues non-standard-dir-perm, good luck :)
[14:41] <Riddell> I'm renaming ksysguard binaries to not have a version number in them like ksysguard5
[15:15] <Riddell> anyone know why this watch file doesn't work?
[15:17] <Riddell> http://paste.kde.org/p8tqwmc3c
[15:23] <sgclark> seems like it should
[15:24] <Riddell> sgclark: plasma-desktop uploaded!
[15:24] <sgclark> yay!
[15:29] <Riddell> sgclark: you missed out the debian/source/format file in powerdevil, that's what was confusing it into thinking it was a native package
[15:30]  * Riddell adds
[15:31] <sgclark> Riddell: hmm wierd, wonder how it vanished. Thanks for finding the issue.
[15:32] <Riddell> probably a missing bzr add
[15:50] <Riddell> sgclark: that seems to be all the packaging for plasma, the question now is does it actually run
[15:52] <sgclark> Riddell: this fix_perms is still driving me crazy
[15:54] <Riddell> sgclark: one idea, override_dh_fixperms: doesnt have a $(overridden_command) any more, maybe that's the problem
[15:55] <sgclark> Riddell: yeah trying that, so far randomly one works but breaks other.  still trying
[16:04] <Riddell> sgclark: I think I need to be off now, but I also noticed plasma-workspace is wanting Prison so you can add that as a build-dep
[16:13] <sgclark> Riddell: ok no problem
[16:17] <arpan> is latest iso image of plasma5 is installable or just a live cd?
[16:19] <arpan> i mean neon5 image
[16:20] <Riddell> arpan: should be installable
[16:21] <arpan> Riddell: thanks! let me download it and check it. Last time I tried it but it wasn't installable at that time.
[16:28] <shadeslayer> you have to do some work in order to install it, it's not exactly straightforward
[16:31] <arpan> shadeslayer: what will i need to do for installing it?
[16:32] <shadeslayer> arpan: find the launcher for the installer and run it
[16:34] <arpan> ok thanks shadeslayer! let me see if I can find the launcher.
[16:34] <shadeslayer> it's a desktop file
[17:14] <yofel> shadeslayer: does wrap-and-sort eat packages?
[17:15] <shadeslayer> yofel: and build deps
[17:15] <yofel> ah, that's new
[17:15] <shadeslayer> yofel: see debian bug 743174
[17:15] <yofel> "fun"
[17:15] <shadeslayer> or 751260
[17:15]  * shadeslayer goes back to listening some CCR
[17:26] <kubotu> feed branches had 7 updates, showing the latest 6
[17:45] <jussi> So just was talking to someone here at a mongodb event who really wanted to buy support but didn't know it existed.  I think we should give the support thing a bit more advertisement on the web page and make it easier to find and buy.  Thoughts? 
[17:48] <apachelogger> jussi: website -> support -> first thing is commercial support
[17:48] <apachelogger> I don't see how it gets more visible than that
[19:01] <shadeslayer> yo
[19:01] <shadeslayer> what's up with the docs roundtable
[19:02] <shadeslayer> valorie: ^^
[19:08] <shadeslayer> Riddell: yo
[19:08] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/meeting/22242/community-1406-kubuntu-documentation-team/
[19:09] <shadeslayer> Riddell: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYcJruxQy3tuc0JL7-Q6EQzyP02oFJS0JqiRdfzgqnz76VTmPg?a
[19:09] <shadeslayer> if you want to join
[19:55] <sgclark> ok so clearly I need to get g+ hangouts working sorry guys and gals
[22:16] <valorie> sgclark: they will only work in Firefox for me
[22:17] <valorie> and even still, my nice USB headphones only partly work
[22:17] <valorie> mic works great!
[22:17] <valorie> but sound doesn't come through
[22:17] <sgclark> yeah my usb headphones did not work and ahh firefox, seems google chrome would work for g+ lol
[22:25] <valorie> it does sometimes
[22:25] <valorie> just not right now
[22:25] <valorie> they keep breaking their own services for some reason
[22:25] <valorie> for me at least
[22:25] <valorie> crazy
[22:25] <valorie> I use chromium, but still
[22:50] <valorie> apachelogger: I clone all the time without ssh -- you have to have the key to push though