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| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-devops-2 to: Track: Cloud DevOps | Making the Ubuntu Server even more awesome | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/meeting/22280/making-the-ubuntu-server-even-more-awesome/ | ||
| jamespage | o/ | 13:56 |
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| * jamespage gets ready for awesome-ness | 13:56 | |
| * marcoceppi wonders how ubuntu server could get any more awesome | 13:57 | |
| smoser | http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1406-making-the-ubuntu-server-even-more-awesome | 13:58 |
| gaughen | about to start, having technical difficulties | 14:04 |
| gaughen | rbasak, you rejoining us? | 14:04 |
| rbasak | Sorry for the delay. My connection glitched. | 14:08 |
| smoser | hello everyone. | 14:09 |
| rbasak | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-u-server-core | 14:11 |
| apw | debian.master/config/config.common.ubuntu:CONFIG_BCACHE=m | 14:11 |
| rbasak | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/merges.html | 14:12 |
| smoser | thank you Daviey! | 14:12 |
| rbasak | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=748526 | 14:20 |
| udsbotu | Debian bug 748526 in docker.io "docker.io: Please provide /usr/bin/docker" [Wishlist,Open] | 14:20 |
| zul | +1 | 14:21 |
| apw | rbasak, isn't that what the cloud-archive style thing is for? | 14:26 |
| apw | rbasak, or it should have an MRE | 14:27 |
| rbasak | It's not acceptable for an MRE because it's *major* version bumps that we're talking about | 14:27 |
| rbasak | apw: (or anyone else): https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYd4xpTCxnutxhTD2aCitUEZX8RRCWMYdUGLmQq1SMDDI7r7LA?authuser=1&hl=en-GB | 14:29 |
| gQuigs | should their be a Firefox like exception for docker? | 14:42 |
| apw | rbasak, its an opt in install, so as soon as you apt-get install <foo> you start riding all those versions onwards | 14:43 |
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| beisner | o/ hi all | 16:03 |
| sparkiegeek | gaughen ++ for stumping jamespage ;) | 16:22 |
| gaughen | :-) | 16:26 |
| sparkiegeek | QUESTION: is the vSphere hypervisor going to work with Icehouse (or just Juno)? | 16:32 |
| gaughen | good question, I'll raise it | 16:32 |
| sparkiegeek | ta | 16:32 |
| jamespage | sparkiegeek, icehouse onwards | 16:33 |
| sparkiegeek | jamespage: great. thanks | 16:34 |
| sparkiegeek | zul: gaughen: same question, will the native LXC work be for Icehouse? | 16:36 |
| jamespage | sparkiegeek, yes | 16:37 |
| sparkiegeek | jamespage: thanks | 16:37 |
| jamespage | I think we'll provide a backport for icehouse | 16:37 |
| jamespage | yes - we will be | 16:38 |
| sparkiegeek | and is it just charm work? or will there be new packages (in Utopic)? | 16:38 |
| coreycb | release schedule --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/CloudArchive | 16:39 |
| sparkiegeek | LXC work is anticipated to be available for Trusty in Cloud Archive? | 16:45 |
| sparkiegeek | right, that's what I want. Trusty/Icehouse :) | 16:47 |
| sparkiegeek | backports is fine | 16:47 |
| catbus1 | seamicro scale test \o/ | 16:51 |
| sparkiegeek | thanks! | 16:53 |
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| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-devops-2 to: Track: Cloud DevOps | Ubuntu Server: plans around systemd | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/meeting/22277/ubuntu-server-plans-around-systemd/ | ||
| * gaughen hopes that there are some questions about systemd! | 17:52 | |
| zul | QUESTION: if systemd falls in a forrest does it make a sound? | 17:55 |
| xnox | zul: it makes the sounds of night crickets =) | 17:57 |
| zul | xnox: heh | 17:57 |
| zul | i actually want that question to be answered ;) | 17:57 |
| rbasak | gaughen: switch to the slide? | 18:03 |
| rbasak | Or maybe I control my own one? Hmmm. | 18:03 |
| gaughen | rbasak, I did right when I handed it to him | 18:03 |
| cjwatson | flashblock is your friend when you're running sessions | 18:03 |
| rbasak | Ah OK | 18:03 |
| gaughen | rbasak, I think you control yourself, but I control the session. | 18:03 |
| * gaughen is drunk with power | 18:03 | |
| zul | or just drunk | 18:03 |
| gnuoy | 2 drunks max | 18:04 |
| zul | 3 you get a party | 18:04 |
| smoser | you can also boot with /bin/true as your init | 18:04 |
| smoser | and get about the same behavior :) | 18:04 |
| rbasak | :) | 18:04 |
| beisner | ha! | 18:05 |
| cjwatson | xnox: systemd does appear to have code to read LSB headers itself | 18:10 |
| cjwatson | at least to some extent, I don't know the full details | 18:10 |
| cjwatson | for the most part it's easier to leave the upstart job alone :) | 18:13 |
| jodh_ | xnox et al: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers | 18:22 |
| smoser | nice jodh_ | 18:23 |
| gaughen | ah, hallyn we should have had you hear to talk about systemd and lxc | 18:25 |
| gaughen | here | 18:25 |
| cjwatson | we should suggest that people bring up staging servers with 15.10 or thereabouts once ready and use that to test migration, yeah | 18:25 |
| gaughen | cjwatson, good suggestion | 18:25 |
| hallyn | gaughen: not really relevant though | 18:25 |
| gaughen | i'll mention it | 18:25 |
| mdeslaur | QUESTION: how are we going to test all the different insane configurations people have with regards to NFS and SANs, etc. | 18:25 |
| gaughen | I can't remember if you talked about it yesterday, hallyn | 18:26 |
| gaughen | mdeslaur, I shall raise than it in a sec | 18:26 |
| hallyn | mdeslaur: as it is i dont' think we're doing multipath root testing... unless ppetraki is | 18:27 |
| gQuigs | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=systemd-boot is for all bugs or just boot bugs? | 18:27 |
| gQuigs | and tracked at the link above ^^ | 18:28 |
| mdeslaur | it's pronounced "awesome dude" | 18:28 |
| gaughen | mdeslaur, :-) | 18:28 |
| zul | mdeslaur: nfs is so 1990s...its coda man ;) | 18:29 |
| hallyn | coda! | 18:29 |
| mdeslaur | lol | 18:29 |
| roadmr | wow I haven't seen coda mentioned in over 15 years | 18:29 |
| hallyn | well that's weird, youtube looped me back around to the start | 18:33 |
| smoser | and maybe unicorns will finally arrive | 18:33 |
| urulama | smoser: utopic unicorns? :D | 18:34 |
| zul | ...im not listening...LALALALALALA | 18:35 |
| gaughen | zul :-) | 18:35 |
| zul | LALALALALA not listening | 18:35 |
| gQuigs | oh, so we might run a mix of systemd/upstart depending on the image for 14.10? | 18:38 |
| jamespage | xnox, I've done some of that foo in upstart | 18:38 |
| smoser | gQuigs, no. i'd say that for 14.10 the images will boot upstart. | 18:40 |
| smoser | but they will support booting systemd. | 18:40 |
| cjwatson | that seems the most likely outcome, indeed | 18:40 |
| cjwatson | I'd be potentially concerned about the installer impact of trying to switch desktop and server at different times | 18:43 |
| cjwatson | It might be doable, but it would be easier to do both at once I think | 18:43 |
| cjwatson | We can obviously work on getting them ready independently | 18:44 |
| rbasak | The upstart-jobs branch looks really useful - thanks! | 18:44 |
| apw | gaughen, link for that in here please, as that is far tooooo small to read | 18:45 |
| xnox | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~upstart-devel/upstart/upstart-jobs/files/head:/ | 18:45 |
| apw | xnox, ta | 18:45 |
| xnox | or $ bzr branch lp:~upstart-devel/upstart/upstart-jobs | 18:45 |
| apw | xnox, is there a good example for what one needs if you only have an upstart job | 18:46 |
| xnox | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers | 18:46 |
| xnox | apw: but i think i need to write a guide about that | 18:48 |
| apw | xnox, yeah, a nice little thingy which explains how the dh_inithingy works as well | 18:48 |
| xnox | apw: yeah, but dh_installinit is not enough with systemd jobs any more =( | 18:48 |
| cjwatson | I think upstart boot time has bitrotted somewhat, TBH | 18:49 |
| cjwatson | I don't have metrics and agree we should have them, but I'd tend to expect that systemd might well actually be better | 18:49 |
| rbasak | Very good point beisner | 18:49 |
| rbasak | We should measure it | 18:49 |
| mswart | pitti created a systemd ppa for 14.04 - are there any plans to update this from time to time to allow basic experiments with an LTS version? | 18:50 |
| xnox | apw: sadly one also needs to use --with systemd, which I don't like at all | 18:50 |
| smoser | thats kind of cheating. | 18:50 |
| smoser | "the hardware got faster, and we didn't get slower!" | 18:51 |
| apw | xnox, ugg, that is truly awful | 18:51 |
| mdeslaur | thanks! | 18:52 |
| gnuoy | thanks all | 18:53 |
| * rbasak goes for a stretch | 18:53 | |
| gQuigs | thanks! | 18:53 |
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| smoser | http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1406-simplestreams-tutorial | 19:03 |
| smoser | https://github.com/smoser/talk-simplestreams | 19:03 |
| gQuigs | yes we can see it | 19:06 |
| gnuoy | yes | 19:06 |
| coreycb | smoser can you increase the text size? | 19:07 |
| coreycb | actually it's ok - youtube has a bigger screen | 19:08 |
| gnuoy | :) | 19:54 |
| kickinz1 | o/ | 19:54 |
| gnuoy | thanks smoser rbasak | 19:54 |
| kickinz1 | bye | 19:55 |
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