[06:21] is there a way to increase the delay to show the HUD on an alt tap? it appears when I use M-f in emacs and steals focus [07:50] well this just sucks... [07:56] hi guys [08:12] pete-woods, ^^ [08:13] Cimi: welcome back to merge fun on your infographics branch [08:13] hope you had a great hol beforehand :) [08:13] ahah [08:13] still booting brain [08:13] :D [08:21] Saviq, I think the touchdown is fine, what do you mean is weird? [08:21] https://code.launchpad.net/~cimi/unity8/card_touchdown/+merge/221113 [08:21] I don't know how we can possibly do it different [08:41] MacSlow: hey! Did you see my proposal to get rid of the redundant timeout hint? https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/unity-notifications/revert-timeout/+merge/222218 [09:17] * Cimi reboots after dist-upgrade... see you or not [09:27] larsu, oh... didn't look at that yet... just replied to your comment on my initial MP [09:29] MacSlow: you did? I can't find it. https://code.launchpad.net/~macslow/unity-notifications/fix-1295762/+merge/218648 [09:40] MacSlow: I guess you mean on the bug? [09:40] * larsu wonders why he wasn't subscribed to the bug [09:57] who has issues with latest dist-upgrade_ [09:57] ? [09:57] I have no X11 [09:58] startx under root runs though [09:58] no lightdm maybe [09:58] I haven't touched the pc in the last 3 weeks [09:58] just did a fresh dist-upgrade and boom [09:59] on my laptop instead unity is still broken in utopic [10:04] seb128, ? ^ [10:05] Saviq, is there any new issue with init that I should be aware of? [10:17] ok on the pc was lightdm to be broken [10:18] Cimi, no known issue afaik, #ubuntu-devel might be a better channel to ask about utopic issues [10:18] seb128, with lightdm, my pc goes in failsafe x and dies [10:19] gdm is fine [10:19] did you look at the logs to see what's the issue? [10:19] can you share you /var/log/lightdm? [10:19] seb128, I don't know which look shall I look at [10:19] sure [10:20] seb128, mightr be mir [10:20] we don't install/usr mir on desktop [10:20] http://paste.ubuntu.com/7627908/ [10:20] [+0.00s] DEBUG: Loading configuration from /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/51-unity8-greeter.conf [10:20] that's likely your issue [10:21] you have unity8-greeter installed and it probably tries to use it [10:21] mmm [10:22] seb128, that is required by unity8-autopilot [10:22] * Cimi reboots [10:22] Cimi, unity8 doesn't play all nicely with desktop yet :/ [10:22] seb128, you fixed my issue! [10:22] thx [10:23] seb128, so I guess I will have to manually check to not install unity8-greeter [10:23] Cimi, mterry is going to look at making it work on desktop, but that's after RTM work in his queue [10:24] Cimi, btw got my mail? [10:24] Cimi, otherwise you can install it but tweak you lightdm.conf to force unity-greeter instead [10:24] mhr3, on the money? [10:24] yep [10:24] mhr3, so basically I need money and ale owes? [10:28] mhr3, you are giving money? ;-) [10:32] seb128, yea, but you're too late, sorry :P [10:33] :-( === alan_g is now known as alan_g|afk === alan_g|afk is now known as alan_g === _salem is now known as salem_ === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === salem_ is now known as _salem === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g === pete-woods is now known as pete-woods-lunch === olli_ is now known as olli [14:11] Hmm, no tsdgeos. [14:11] bregma, We're trying to land a silo that has an updated indicator-session to call the Unity8 logout API. [14:11] bregma, But neither charles or I has a working U8 desktop session. [14:12] bregma, Could you test that silo? [14:12] tedg: Why can't you use unity8 session? [14:12] maybe later today, I'm focused on UOS at the moment [14:12] have you tried apt-get install unity8-desktop-session-mir? [14:12] paulliu, Mir went black, not sure why that is. [14:12] tedg: The working unity8 should be Utopic. [14:12] tedg: Are you using Utopic or Trusty? [14:13] I haven't had time to get it all working. [14:13] Utopic [14:13] tedg: ok. Then, Please run glmark2-es2. [14:13] tedg: see if it works. [14:14] tedg: In the terminal, it should not print any "warning" messages. And it display a horse. [14:14] tedg: On my machine, it prints "libEGL warning: failed to create a pipe screen for i915". Which means i915 is not supported to run unity8 right now. === _salem is now known as salem_ [14:15] tedg: but for tsdgeos's machine I saw it works well. [14:16] * tedg updates [14:16] paulliu, Basically the same: warning: failed to create a pipe screen for i965 [14:17] tedg: hmm.. then it won't work. [14:17] tedg: wondering nvidia or ATI works. But no for Intel chips. [14:23] tedg: have to find some machine that uses nvidia drivers. [14:23] Yeah, I will as u8 becomes more desktop friendly. [14:24] Just trying to land one silo for now though :-) === pete-woods-lunch is now known as pete-woods === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea [14:31] tedg: strangely is I saw indicator-session did call the corrent dbus call on unity7. Also we've tried that using qdbus can logout unity8-mir. [14:32] paulliu, Cool, so it should be an easy test :-) [14:32] Would like to see it tested from UI to logout though. [14:32] * tedg hears some people like to logout === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [14:42] tedg: is there someone else who can run unity8-mir desktop? I'd also like to know what happened between. [14:48] paulliu, If you know of someone, I'm game, but my next target was bregma — so that's why I was pinging him :-) [14:53] tedg: ok. Not sure. Most people uses intel chips because it doesn't need special drivers. But for now just not that good for mir. === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [15:28] MacSlow hey, iirc you have been playing with apparmor recently, right? [15:29] dednick, mhr3_ are your brains working today or is just mine that is jet lagged? [15:32] Cimi: meh. i keep thinking i should be sitting at a pool. [15:38] dandrader, I wouldn't call it playing... for the most part I asked Jamie S. what I needed it to do as I didn't fully got my mind wrapped around AppArmor [15:39] dandrader, what are you after? [15:39] MacSlow, dbus access for an app [15:39] dandrader, do you want to allow or restrict something? [15:40] MacSlow, allow. it seems I have to provide dbus rules file [15:40] MacSlow, but I have a faint recollection of people saying that apps would not get direct dbus access... [15:41] dandrader, yes... the dbus-privileges of click-apps is very limited [15:42] MacSlow, so I was looking for an example on how it's done [15:42] dandrader, but for some "harmless" interfaces exceptions can be made... if you provide good enough reasons... but the policy in place for this I don't know by heart [15:43] dandrader, you'll mostly be interested in config-files you find under /usr/share/apparmor/easyprof [15:45] MacSlow, hmmm, I see a bunch on dbus rules in /usr/share/apparmor/easyprof/policygroups/ubuntu/1.0/networking [15:45] MacSlow, thanks! [15:45] dandrader, for restricting clickapps from using notifications (via DBus) /usr/share/apparmor/easyprof/templates/ubuntu/1.?/* needed to be touched [15:47] dandrader, you can play around with the settings and restart apparmor... then trigger some action and tailing syslog will show you if apparmor allowed or denied the access [15:48] MacSlow, how do I restart apparmor? [15:48] MacSlow, would a "restart lightdm" do it? [15:48] MacSlow, do I also have to restart the session bus? [15:49] (which "restart lightdm" does, I think) [15:49] dandrader, "sudo service apparmor restart" I'd think to recall [15:49] dandrader, that should be enough [15:53] MacSlow, so to add a new policy_group I can simply put a new file over there? [15:56] dandrader, you can user apparmor_parser -d to check/verify you file first [16:03] dandrader, gotta run [16:03] MacSlow, ok, thanks for the help! [16:03] dandrader, np yw === gatox is now known as gatox_lunch [16:31] Saviq: ping [16:34] Cimi, not really, but it feels somehow unreal to be back here [16:36] Cimi, btw is pretty much everyone working on u8 on the qt conf? [16:36] no tsdgeos, no mzanetti, no saviq... === mhr3_ is now known as mhr3 [16:52] paulliu, Do you expect the logout u8 MR to land soonish? === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [17:04] tedg: Yes. I expect it to be land very soon. But tsdgeos have to review it. I don't mind if other people do a review but he have to run the UI test (integration test). [17:04] charles: no. I don't have a timeline for it. [17:05] charles: yes. They don't block each other. And should be landed separately. But if it doesn't work, we have an integration bug. [17:05] paulliu, K, we're thinking the indicator-session MR should perhaps land in the same silo with the u8 one. [17:05] paulliu, Land the full feature at once. [17:06] tedg: agreed. [17:08] paulliu, K, thanks! === gatox_lunch is now known as gatox [17:20] mterry, do you mind approving it? https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity8/fixBuild_lp1328850/+merge/222845 [17:20] dandrader, ok [17:23] mterry, I jumped the gun. there are more compilation errors further on [17:23] dandrader, oh, I haven't finished the build [17:28] just another missing "#include " === dandrader is now known as dandrader|lunch [17:39] dandrader|lunch, ah yeah in unitymenumodelstacktest.cpp [18:01] tedg, the indicator-session in the PPA doesn't seem to do the magic for me, so I need to set some environment variable or something? [18:20] bregma, Sorry, we pulled it out. [18:21] bregma, We decided to land with the u8 branch that paulliu has so the whole feature can land at once. [18:21] whaaaat? === dandrader|lunch is now known as dandrader === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [19:50] kgunn, Would it be possible to avoid unsplitting the greeter until the "little hammer" is ready? [19:50] Going to make testing the indicator work difficult. [19:50] If we can't run it in the split greeter. === artmello is now known as artmello|afk [19:56] tedg: that woulda been a preferred way fwd, but it was gonna take too long, and we'd be image blockers real quick... [19:56] little hammer will come tho [19:58] Image blockers? Really? [19:59] QA didn't even file they all the bugs for the issues and they were ready to claim they were blocking images? [20:07] kgunn, What's the timeline for the little hammer? [20:40] tedg: weeks not days...but not a month [20:40] either === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader === salem_ is now known as _salem [22:27] mterry, ping [22:27] dandrader, heyo [22:28] mterry, so I've made a change to lp:ubuntu/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu and would like to push it to a lp:~dandrader/... branch. But I don't know how the url have to look like [22:29] normally I do lp:~dandrader/project/mybranchname [22:29] dandrader, you can do lp:~dandrader/ubuntu/utopic/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu/blarg I think? [22:30] * dandrader tries [22:30] mterry, yeah, that worked. thanks!