cmaloney | mrgoodcat: Did it work? :) | 00:12 |
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cmaloney | was re: SMS messages in G+ | 00:12 |
shakes808 | Evening all, | 00:51 |
shakes808 | Does anyone use MonoDevelop and GIT? | 00:51 |
rick_h_ | jrwren: around? | 01:06 |
jrwren | rick_h_: sure. | 01:12 |
jrwren | oh. i once used monodevelop and git. | 01:13 |
jrwren | but its been a long time. | 01:13 |
cmaloney | I've used git, but not monodevelop | 03:43 |
brousch__ | I've used git and monodevelop, but the usage of each was about 6 years from each other | 12:22 |
mrgoodcat | cmaloney: did what work? | 12:56 |
cmaloney | mrgoodcat: Just messing with you re: the SMS messages in G+ | 13:11 |
mrgoodcat | ah lol | 13:12 |
mrgoodcat | .echo did the netsplit screw up bookiebot? | 13:12 |
bookiebot | did the netsplit screw up bookiebot? | 13:12 |
mrgoodcat | aha :) | 13:12 |
mrgoodcat | hopefully he should gracefully handle netsplits now | 13:12 |
mrgoodcat | hmmmm i was wondering what Uber was going to do about all of the taxi license problems | 13:53 |
mrgoodcat | apparently in london you can now use Uber to call a regular licensed taxi | 13:53 |
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cmaloney | nice. | 14:17 |
shakes808 | I am looking to use the integrated GIT plugin with MonoDevelop. I think it says that it saves it to my server but I am not seeing the files on my server. How can I find out if it is just saving locally or to my server? | 15:06 |
cmaloney | .np squeekyhoho | 15:30 |
bookiebot | squeekyhoho's current track - West End Girls by Pet Shop Boys on Discography: The Complete Singles Collection | 15:30 |
cmaloney | Fuckyeah. :) | 15:30 |
enleeten | shakes808: use the git command line interface | 15:35 |
enleeten | git log | 15:35 |
enleeten | in the root of your git repo | 15:35 |
enleeten | oh wait and you need to see if there are pending commits | 15:35 |
enleeten | it would be something like: git log origin/master HEAD | 15:36 |
enleeten | for the remote repo's log | 15:36 |
shakes808 | enleeten: thank you. I will try this out as soon as I get home. | 15:37 |
cmaloney | I have now hit defcon 1 with Jack Threads invitation mails | 17:19 |
brousch__ | wat? | 17:20 |
cmaloney | They use a company called "sailthru" which apparently makes it more than difficult to opt-out of their "invitation" email | 17:20 |
cmaloney | So now I have a REJECt rule for them. | 17:21 |
mrgoodcat | http://www.businessweek.com/printer/articles/206401-with-the-machine-hp-may-have-invented-a-new-kind-of-computer | 18:59 |
bookiebot | http://goo.gl/S75wcJ - With 'The Machine,' HP May Have Invented a New Kind of Computer - Businessweek | 18:59 |
mrgoodcat | they're looking at 100GB/cm^2 persistent RAM | 18:59 |
mrgoodcat | http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1168454 | 19:02 |
bookiebot | http://goo.gl/K7IsO2 - 'Missing link' memristor created: Rewrite the textbooks? | EE Times | 19:02 |
cmaloney | Hmmm.. | 19:04 |
greg-g | finally a shirt I'd buy from somafm: http://somafm.com/support/glowshirts/ | 19:04 |
* greg-g doesn't where black shirts well | 19:04 | |
greg-g | here bookiebot | 19:04 |
greg-g | http://somafm.com/support/glowshirts/ | 19:04 |
cmaloney | I don't think the memristor is quite as revolutionary | 19:04 |
greg-g | what | 19:04 |
greg-g | .np Phlegethon | 19:04 |
bookiebot | Phlegethon's last track - Miles Davis' Funeral by Morphine on Cure for Pain [11 Jun 2014, 03:21] | 19:04 |
greg-g | no linky for me? | 19:05 |
cmaloney | Apparently Bookiebot is not a soma.fm fan. :) | 19:05 |
greg-g | jerk | 19:05 |
cmaloney | I don't think it's heard the defcon channel | 19:06 |
mrgoodcat | lol sorry | 19:08 |
mrgoodcat | not sure what happened to that link | 19:08 |
mrgoodcat | cmaloney: why don't you think it is revolutionary? | 19:09 |
rick_h_ | always strange to hear your own voice back at you heh | 19:10 |
rick_h_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFHXN-ao67k for the juju awesome :) | 19:11 |
bookiebot | http://goo.gl/korXWA - Juju Core and GUI Roadmap - YouTube | 19:11 |
mrgoodcat | lol | 19:11 |
mrgoodcat | bmarked for later watch | 19:11 |
brousch__ | Have they replaced Jono yet? I thought jcastro would get the job | 19:12 |
mrgoodcat | Jorge lives in michigan right | 19:12 |
mrgoodcat | ? | 19:12 |
mrgoodcat | why is michigan so juju heavy? | 19:12 |
mrgoodcat | or is it just my imagination? | 19:12 |
jcastro | because we are awesome | 19:13 |
rick_h_ | +1 and we're sucking jrwren in as well bwuhahaha | 19:13 |
jcastro | mrgoodcat, short story is we find good local people | 19:13 |
jcastro | and make it happen | 19:13 |
mrgoodcat | lol hi jcastro | 19:13 |
cmaloney | mrgoodcat: I think it'll take more than HP to release Memristors to the public | 19:14 |
cmaloney | I don't see it in their corporate culture to do anything with it until the patents expire | 19:14 |
mrgoodcat | cmaloney: so you aren't refuting that memristors are revolutionary, you just don't think it will be revolutionary for HP? | 19:14 |
cmaloney | I think they've had the technology for years and have sat on their thumbs | 19:15 |
cmaloney | ie: It'll come to fruition quicker outside of HP's domain | 19:15 |
mrgoodcat | i thought you were saying memristors themselves aren't a big deal | 19:16 |
cmaloney | That and I'm not sure what the big deal with Memristors are | 19:16 |
cmaloney | Other than smaller, cheap, quick storage. | 19:17 |
mrgoodcat | they offer persistent storage at RAM speed | 19:17 |
mrgoodcat | in a computer designed to fully take advantage of them they could make hard drives and RAM obsolete | 19:18 |
cmaloney | That's the hype talking | 19:18 |
mrgoodcat | since you wouldn't have to load anything into RAM, it would just be available at high speed | 19:18 |
cmaloney | You'll still need scratch space and will want somewhere temporary that "goes away" | 19:19 |
cmaloney | Otherwise secure computing is pretty much done. :) | 19:19 |
mrgoodcat | scratch space would be on the memristor array, volatile space could be integrated into the CPU since you'd need much less of it | 19:20 |
cmaloney | Again, I'll believe it when I see it | 19:20 |
cmaloney | The way they're hyping this is it's all free side effects of certain materials | 19:21 |
mrgoodcat | your voice of reason is probably healthy for my sanity, but I still prefer to look at the posibilities rather than the potential downfalls | 19:21 |
cmaloney | mrgoodcat: Chalk it up to hearing a lot of free lunches | 19:21 |
cmaloney | Flash was hyped in the same way | 19:22 |
cmaloney | (flash drives) | 19:22 |
mrgoodcat | i do realize that even if the material is as magical as they say it is, operating systems would need to be rewritten to take advantage of it and so forth | 19:22 |
cmaloney | and then it came out later on that flash memory was a destructive process. | 19:22 |
mrgoodcat | flash led to SSD, and i'd say that is a pretty significant landmark in computing history | 19:22 |
cmaloney | with finite lifespans | 19:22 |
cmaloney | I expect memristor SSD before I expect "The Machine" to arrive | 19:23 |
cmaloney | it'll be the stop-gap in between | 19:23 |
cmaloney | HP will need to license the tech though | 19:23 |
cmaloney | You can't shot out a revolution | 19:23 |
cmaloney | shit | 19:23 |
cmaloney | The IBM PC was revolutionary the moment someone cloned it | 19:24 |
mrgoodcat | no SSD is the wrong direction | 19:24 |
mrgoodcat | memristors don't offer any immediate advantages for SSD | 19:24 |
mrgoodcat | RAM maybe | 19:24 |
mrgoodcat | computers that boot instantly back to their previous state | 19:25 |
cmaloney | Why not SSD? Faster access with low power? | 19:25 |
mrgoodcat | how would it be faster or lower power? | 19:25 |
mrgoodcat | more dense is the only major advantage i see | 19:25 |
cmaloney | ding ding ding | 19:25 |
mrgoodcat | specifically as it relates to SSD | 19:25 |
greg-g | fewer/shorter wires means more efficient | 19:26 |
cmaloney | 1TB consumer SSD drives | 19:26 |
mrgoodcat | the reason SSD isn't as fast as RAM has less to do with materials and more to do with transfer speed | 19:26 |
mrgoodcat | the wires are too long | 19:26 |
mrgoodcat | if i understand it correctly (which i probably don't) | 19:26 |
cmaloney | Again, they need a baby step like this before they "change computing" | 19:27 |
mrgoodcat | but when i was in CE at WMU that's the way my prof explained it to me | 19:27 |
greg-g | mrgoodcat: you mean the wires betweent he drive and cpu, I was referring to the wires of the actual storage | 19:27 |
mrgoodcat | greg-g: yea it would probably offer some limited power consumption benefit | 19:27 |
mrgoodcat | and shorter wires == lower latency | 19:28 |
mrgoodcat | but drives are currently limited by the bus back to the CPU, not drive internals | 19:28 |
mrgoodcat | or not as much by drive internals | 19:28 |
cmaloney | That's fine. Flash is limited by redundancy and cost. | 19:29 |
cmaloney | Solve that problem first. :) | 19:29 |
cmaloney | Then solve the supercomputer problems. :) | 19:29 |
mrgoodcat | RAM is equally limited by latency | 19:29 |
mrgoodcat | but it is orders of magnitude better than any persistent storage we have these days | 19:30 |
rick_h_ | ram isn't persistent | 19:30 |
mrgoodcat | ^^ | 19:30 |
rick_h_ | the whole idea of making a persistent change that lasts is kind of the big thing in ssd vs ram | 19:30 |
rick_h_ | they're not the same | 19:30 |
mrgoodcat | that's not the argument | 19:30 |
cmaloney | mrgoodcat: I understand the exuberance. | 19:33 |
cmaloney | And I know we likely sound like folks bitching about platter storage not having tape markers or some shit. :) | 19:34 |
cmaloney | But I see HP missing an opportunity to get something out there now | 19:35 |
cmaloney | And proving the technology in the data center before trying to reinvent everything. | 19:35 |
mrgoodcat | oh i have no doubt if any company can miss the train on a technology it poineered itself, its HP | 19:36 |
mrgoodcat | I wasn't saying it's time to buy HP stock (although i'm not saying it isn't either), just that the technology itself stands to make monumental changes in the way computers are architected | 19:37 |
mrgoodcat | long term | 19:37 |
cmaloney | If it means we get working suspend I'll be content. ;) | 19:39 |
mrgoodcat | HP is saying it wants to release "The Machine" in 2017, whatever "The Machine" is. For all we know it could just be a normal computer with a memristor array on the MB as a hyper-speed cache for persistent storage | 19:39 |
cmaloney | That's what will be released. | 19:39 |
cmaloney | I doubt they'll be able to pinch off an OS in that time | 19:40 |
cmaloney | Though I'll bet dollars to donuts it'll be UNIX-based. ;) | 19:40 |
cmaloney | Because UNIX don't care. :) | 19:40 |
brousch__ | Don't they still own WebOS? | 19:41 |
mrgoodcat | no, but if the technology becomes available i don't have any problem imagining a community supported fork of linux designed specifically for memristor based memory/storage | 19:41 |
mrgoodcat | brousch__: yes i believe they do | 19:42 |
brousch__ | Mini Makerfaire in Grand Rapids August 30,31 http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2014/06/maker_faire_bringing_inventors.html | 22:19 |
bookiebot | http://goo.gl/0fSXud - Maker Faire bringing inventors and creators to Grand Rapids in August | MLive.com | 22:19 |
gamerchick02 | oo | 22:47 |
gamerchick02 | that's cool, brousch__ | 22:47 |
mrgoodcat | yea it is | 22:57 |
brousch__ | All my friends | 23:07 |
gamerchick02 | sweet. i presume you're going. | 23:15 |
gamerchick02 | :) | 23:15 |
cmaloney | blergh | 23:52 |
cmaloney | dinner not sitting well | 23:52 |
gamerchick02 | uh oh. feel better, cmaloney | 23:56 |
gamerchick02 | tums? | 23:56 |
gamerchick02 | i'm switching to the macbook, brb | 23:56 |
gamerchick02 | i am back. | 23:58 |
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