[00:12] mrgoodcat: Did it work? :) [00:12] was re: SMS messages in G+ [00:51] Evening all, [00:51] Does anyone use MonoDevelop and GIT? [01:06] jrwren: around? [01:12] rick_h_: sure. [01:13] oh. i once used monodevelop and git. [01:13] but its been a long time. [03:43] I've used git, but not monodevelop [12:22] I've used git and monodevelop, but the usage of each was about 6 years from each other [12:56] cmaloney: did what work? [13:11] mrgoodcat: Just messing with you re: the SMS messages in G+ [13:12] ah lol [13:12] .echo did the netsplit screw up bookiebot? [13:12] did the netsplit screw up bookiebot? [13:12] aha :) [13:12] hopefully he should gracefully handle netsplits now [13:53] hmmmm i was wondering what Uber was going to do about all of the taxi license problems [13:53] apparently in london you can now use Uber to call a regular licensed taxi === Guest74231 is now known as akelling [14:17] nice. [15:06] I am looking to use the integrated GIT plugin with MonoDevelop. I think it says that it saves it to my server but I am not seeing the files on my server. How can I find out if it is just saving locally or to my server? [15:30] .np squeekyhoho [15:30] squeekyhoho's current track - West End Girls by Pet Shop Boys on Discography: The Complete Singles Collection [15:30] Fuckyeah. :) [15:35] shakes808: use the git command line interface [15:35] git log [15:35] in the root of your git repo [15:35] oh wait and you need to see if there are pending commits [15:36] it would be something like: git log origin/master HEAD [15:36] for the remote repo's log [15:37] enleeten: thank you. I will try this out as soon as I get home. [17:19] I have now hit defcon 1 with Jack Threads invitation mails [17:20] wat? [17:20] They use a company called "sailthru" which apparently makes it more than difficult to opt-out of their "invitation" email [17:21] So now I have a REJECt rule for them. [18:59] http://www.businessweek.com/printer/articles/206401-with-the-machine-hp-may-have-invented-a-new-kind-of-computer [18:59] http://goo.gl/S75wcJ - With 'The Machine,' HP May Have Invented a New Kind of Computer - Businessweek [18:59] they're looking at 100GB/cm^2 persistent RAM [19:02] http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1168454 [19:02] http://goo.gl/K7IsO2 - 'Missing link' memristor created: Rewrite the textbooks? | EE Times [19:04] Hmmm.. [19:04] finally a shirt I'd buy from somafm: http://somafm.com/support/glowshirts/ [19:04] * greg-g doesn't where black shirts well [19:04] here bookiebot [19:04] http://somafm.com/support/glowshirts/ [19:04] I don't think the memristor is quite as revolutionary [19:04] what [19:04] .np Phlegethon [19:04] Phlegethon's last track - Miles Davis' Funeral by Morphine on Cure for Pain [11 Jun 2014, 03:21] [19:05] no linky for me? [19:05] Apparently Bookiebot is not a soma.fm fan. :) [19:05] jerk [19:06] I don't think it's heard the defcon channel [19:08] lol sorry [19:08] not sure what happened to that link [19:09] cmaloney: why don't you think it is revolutionary? [19:10] always strange to hear your own voice back at you heh [19:11] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFHXN-ao67k for the juju awesome :) [19:11] http://goo.gl/korXWA - Juju Core and GUI Roadmap - YouTube [19:11] lol [19:11] bmarked for later watch [19:12] Have they replaced Jono yet? I thought jcastro would get the job [19:12] Jorge lives in michigan right [19:12] ? [19:12] why is michigan so juju heavy? [19:12] or is it just my imagination? [19:13] because we are awesome [19:13] +1 and we're sucking jrwren in as well bwuhahaha [19:13] mrgoodcat, short story is we find good local people [19:13] and make it happen [19:13] lol hi jcastro [19:14] mrgoodcat: I think it'll take more than HP to release Memristors to the public [19:14] I don't see it in their corporate culture to do anything with it until the patents expire [19:14] cmaloney: so you aren't refuting that memristors are revolutionary, you just don't think it will be revolutionary for HP? [19:15] I think they've had the technology for years and have sat on their thumbs [19:15] ie: It'll come to fruition quicker outside of HP's domain [19:16] i thought you were saying memristors themselves aren't a big deal [19:16] That and I'm not sure what the big deal with Memristors are [19:17] Other than smaller, cheap, quick storage. [19:17] they offer persistent storage at RAM speed [19:18] in a computer designed to fully take advantage of them they could make hard drives and RAM obsolete [19:18] That's the hype talking [19:18] since you wouldn't have to load anything into RAM, it would just be available at high speed [19:19] You'll still need scratch space and will want somewhere temporary that "goes away" [19:19] Otherwise secure computing is pretty much done. :) [19:20] scratch space would be on the memristor array, volatile space could be integrated into the CPU since you'd need much less of it [19:20] Again, I'll believe it when I see it [19:21] The way they're hyping this is it's all free side effects of certain materials [19:21] your voice of reason is probably healthy for my sanity, but I still prefer to look at the posibilities rather than the potential downfalls [19:21] mrgoodcat: Chalk it up to hearing a lot of free lunches [19:22] Flash was hyped in the same way [19:22] (flash drives) [19:22] i do realize that even if the material is as magical as they say it is, operating systems would need to be rewritten to take advantage of it and so forth [19:22] and then it came out later on that flash memory was a destructive process. [19:22] flash led to SSD, and i'd say that is a pretty significant landmark in computing history [19:22] with finite lifespans [19:23] I expect memristor SSD before I expect "The Machine" to arrive [19:23] it'll be the stop-gap in between [19:23] HP will need to license the tech though [19:23] You can't shot out a revolution [19:23] shit [19:24] The IBM PC was revolutionary the moment someone cloned it [19:24] no SSD is the wrong direction [19:24] memristors don't offer any immediate advantages for SSD [19:24] RAM maybe [19:25] computers that boot instantly back to their previous state [19:25] Why not SSD? Faster access with low power? [19:25] how would it be faster or lower power? [19:25] more dense is the only major advantage i see [19:25] ding ding ding [19:25] specifically as it relates to SSD [19:26] fewer/shorter wires means more efficient [19:26] 1TB consumer SSD drives [19:26] the reason SSD isn't as fast as RAM has less to do with materials and more to do with transfer speed [19:26] the wires are too long [19:26] if i understand it correctly (which i probably don't) [19:27] Again, they need a baby step like this before they "change computing" [19:27] but when i was in CE at WMU that's the way my prof explained it to me [19:27] mrgoodcat: you mean the wires betweent he drive and cpu, I was referring to the wires of the actual storage [19:27] greg-g: yea it would probably offer some limited power consumption benefit [19:28] and shorter wires == lower latency [19:28] but drives are currently limited by the bus back to the CPU, not drive internals [19:28] or not as much by drive internals [19:29] That's fine. Flash is limited by redundancy and cost. [19:29] Solve that problem first. :) [19:29] Then solve the supercomputer problems. :) [19:29] RAM is equally limited by latency [19:30] but it is orders of magnitude better than any persistent storage we have these days [19:30] ram isn't persistent [19:30] ^^ [19:30] the whole idea of making a persistent change that lasts is kind of the big thing in ssd vs ram [19:30] they're not the same [19:30] that's not the argument [19:33] mrgoodcat: I understand the exuberance. [19:34] And I know we likely sound like folks bitching about platter storage not having tape markers or some shit. :) [19:35] But I see HP missing an opportunity to get something out there now [19:35] And proving the technology in the data center before trying to reinvent everything. [19:36] oh i have no doubt if any company can miss the train on a technology it poineered itself, its HP [19:37] I wasn't saying it's time to buy HP stock (although i'm not saying it isn't either), just that the technology itself stands to make monumental changes in the way computers are architected [19:37] long term [19:39] If it means we get working suspend I'll be content. ;) [19:39] HP is saying it wants to release "The Machine" in 2017, whatever "The Machine" is. For all we know it could just be a normal computer with a memristor array on the MB as a hyper-speed cache for persistent storage [19:39] That's what will be released. [19:40] I doubt they'll be able to pinch off an OS in that time [19:40] Though I'll bet dollars to donuts it'll be UNIX-based. ;) [19:40] Because UNIX don't care. :) [19:41] Don't they still own WebOS? [19:41] no, but if the technology becomes available i don't have any problem imagining a community supported fork of linux designed specifically for memristor based memory/storage [19:42] brousch__: yes i believe they do [22:19] Mini Makerfaire in Grand Rapids August 30,31 http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2014/06/maker_faire_bringing_inventors.html [22:19] http://goo.gl/0fSXud - Maker Faire bringing inventors and creators to Grand Rapids in August | MLive.com [22:47] oo [22:47] that's cool, brousch__ [22:57] yea it is [23:07] All my friends [23:15] sweet. i presume you're going. [23:15] :) [23:52] blergh [23:52] dinner not sitting well [23:56] uh oh. feel better, cmaloney [23:56] tums? [23:56] i'm switching to the macbook, brb [23:58] i am back.