[00:00] <daftykins> lamrz: why?
[00:00] <PatrickDickey> I just found something that seems close. http://askubuntu.com/questions/462345/ubuntu-14-04-system-messed-up-after-kernel-update I'm on the latest kernel also.
[00:00] <daftykins> lamrz: different routers offer different DHCP lease lengths
[00:01] <Viking667> ... partly why I switched off DHCP altogether on my local machines, and went with a static IP range, that the router happens to be part of.
[00:01] <Viking667> so, the router still offers DHCP for mate's machines, but I don't use it here
[00:01] <daftykins> that's lovely but we tend to need to reduce the general chatter and keep it pure support, Viking667
[00:02] <lamrz> daftykins, I'd like to find out my IP connection information from my logs, but I dont know if it's the same as before the reinstall..
[00:02] <lamrz> I couldn't find it anyway, though
[00:02] <daftykins> lamrz: go one step higher, what's the *actual* task?
[00:02] <daftykins> why does it matter? :)
[00:02] <Viking667> lamrz: I'm sorry, I'm coming in on this halfway through. What's the issue? What do you need?
[00:02] <Viking667> bah. Ninja'd
[00:02] <lamrz> daftykins, verifying account
[00:02] <daftykins> that's not descriptive enough
[00:02] <Viking667> brb
[00:02] <lamrz> daftykins, what would you like to know?
[00:03] <daftykins> what kind of account? what do you mean?
[00:03] <PatrickDickey> lamrz Are you talking about the IP address that your provider gives you, or the local IP address that your modem gives you (192.168.x.x number)?
[00:04] <SierraAR> So I'm running ubuntu on a virtual machine with a monitor that runs at 1600x900 resolution... IT's presenting that information to the OS; Why is that not a resolution option in settings?
[00:04] <Corvette> My unity seems to be broken, when I press log out or shut down nothing happens
[00:04] <jcrowgey> hello ubuntu channel, i'm having some issues with a touchpad on a dual booting computer which don't occur under windows, therefore i believe it's a software issue that i can fix in ubuntu.
[00:04] <SierraAR> In fact the only 16:9 option at all is 1360x768
[00:04] <lamrz> PatrickDickey, the IP address that appears on a service provider's monitor when one uses that service at a public wi-fi spot like a coffee shop
[00:04] <daftykins> SierraAR: which virt tech?
[00:05] <SierraAR> daftykins: VMWare Workstation 10
[00:05] <jcrowgey> this is a del inspiron 3135 and the issue is that sometime after login, the trackpad starts behaving oddly, it's like the left half of the trackpad stops being sensitive at all.
[00:05] <daftykins> SierraAR: then i'm afraid they are responsible for support of quirks, not the OS.
[00:05] <willyg_cos> lamerz: maybe this would do it ??  grep dhclient /var/log/syslog | grep bound   - Sorry, had to wake up my ubuntu box to check on that...
[00:05] <PatrickDickey> lamrz If you were at a public wifi, you'd have to get the information from their ISP (which won't happen most likely). If it's your ISP (connected to your modem), you might have the same IP address.
[00:05] <muddlethru> SierraAR:maybe the virtual driver only supports certain resolutions
[00:06] <SierraAR> daftykins: Is there not a way to 'force' a particular resolution?
[00:06] <jcrowgey> it's happening right now and the output of xinput --test shows me that i'm only getting the normal behavior on the very right edge of the touchpad.   i'm really not sure what might cause this or where to look next.
[00:06] <jcrowgey> but i'm logged on here in case anyone has ideas, since the problem is currently occurring, i can run any diagnostics that would be suggested.
[00:06] <daftykins> SierraAR: the first thing i could say would be whether you have vmware tools on, which would make it a vmware matter... so we can't assist here
[00:07] <daftykins> SierraAR: you could play with xrandr or arandr for resolution override but i have no experience with that
[00:07] <PatrickDickey> SierraAR If I had to venture a guess, I'd say that it won't give you the full resolution that your Operating System offers because it has to subtract for the borders of the window and such (even though you're running in fullscreen, it's *still* a window).
[00:07] <lamrz> PatrickDickey, if I connect at the same place, the IP would not be the same, then?
[00:08] <jcrowgey> does anyone here have experience reading the output of xinput --test ?
[00:09] <daftykins> lamrz: you're still being very vague, you're trying to find out if your IP is different now compared with before on a public wireless network?
[00:09] <PatrickDickey> lamrz again, it depends on a lot of factors. If they shut off their modem/router, if their ISP renewed their lease with the same IP address, etc.
[00:09] <daftykins> i fail to see the relevance that has to anything
[00:10] <jcrowgey> it looks to me like "motion a[0]=XXX" is horizontal and "motion a[1]" is vertical.  can anyone confirm that or point me to the right man page?
[00:10] <Viking667> bah. I hate when real life interrupts
[00:11] <Viking667> lamrz: if you're in a public network, you can't EVER assume you have the same IP from hour to hour, let alone from day to day.
[00:11] <lamrz> PatrickDickey, I see.
[00:12] <lamrz> Viking667, yes, I just got it
[00:12] <jcrowgey> is there a better channel for touchapd questions?  if so, let me know.
[00:13] <lamrz> daftykins, yes, because if not, then I could go to the same place now and check it
[00:13] <daftykins> ...
[00:13] <Viking667> presumably you got it because the DHCP leased you the same IP. Why do you need it to be the same IP anyhow?
[00:13] <Viking667> you're not being clear about that at all.
[00:14] <daftykins> ^
[00:14] <jcrowgey> am i approved to talk to this channel?  are my messages appearing?  can someone confirm?
[00:14] <daftykins> either start making sense or we can't assist
[00:14] <Viking667> jcrowgey: you're visible
[00:14] <jcrowgey> ok, thanks Viking667
[00:14] <daftykins> jcrowgey: you'd know if they weren't
[00:14] <Viking667> I can't help, not knowing much about xinput
[00:14] <PatrickDickey> lamrz Please tell us exactly what you're trying to do. Which app or service you're trying to use, and what it's requiriing exactly.
[00:15] <Viking667> gee, and I thought my questions were vague
[00:15] <PatrickDickey> So, how do I find out what driver is being used by the card if it boots up? (the nvidia card)
[00:15] <Viking667> I'd check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:15] <jcrowgey> alright, i can't seem to find this issue reported on the net, but like i said, i'm convinced it's a software issue since the touchpad works fine under windoze.
[00:15] <jcrowgey> thanks Viking, I'll look there for any clues.
[00:16] <PatrickDickey> jcrowgey what's the issue exactly?
[00:16] <lamrz> PatrickDickey, I think you just explained very well what I sought to know..if there is no stable IP, it will not be available for an earlier date.
[00:16] <Viking667> uhm, that was for PatrickDickey
[00:16] <Viking667> jcrowgey: sorry, my comment was for PatrickDickey
[00:16] <jcrowgey> PatrickDickey: sometime after login, the touchpad stops working except on the extreme right side, only the rightmost 20% or so.
[00:17] <jcrowgey> it's currently happening, so i'm looking at the output of xinput --test and trying to gather information.
[00:18] <jcrowgey> Viking667: ok, got it, most likely Xorg.log.0 isn't going to have anything specific for my issue, but I'm still going to look there :)
[00:19] <PatrickDickey> Ok, so it appears to have loaded /usr/lib/xorg/moudules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so. What I did was booted to the 3.11 kernel instead of the 3.13 ones.
[00:20]  * PatrickDickey is debating about running the manual installer from this kernel....
[00:23] <jcrowgey> well i've found one consistent symptom
[00:24] <jcrowgey> when i move left to right in the 'ok' area, i see 'motion a[0]=XXX' appear in the output of xinput, when i move up and down, it's motion a[1]=xxx, when i get to the weird, broken are, it shows up as motion a[3]=XXX even though i'm still just moving left right, up/down
[00:24] <daftykins> PatrickDickey: and did it boot ok?
[00:24] <jcrowgey> still trying to find some documentation about the info in these motion events ...
[00:24] <robbyt> hello all, I’m working with `reprepro` to create a repo for some custom packages. I would like to add multiple versions of the same package- is this possible with reprepro?
[00:24] <PatrickDickey> daftykins it booted up, but the resolution is 640x480 or something like that. There's no other options.
[00:25] <histo> jcrowgey: maybe a scroll area?
[00:25] <PatrickDickey> and in the log, I'm still seeing the failed to load the kernel modules. I can pastebin the log, if you want.
[00:25] <lamrz> thank you for all your help!!
[00:25] <jcrowgey> histo: maybe, i wish i could find out concretely but i can't seem to find any docs for xinput anywhere.
[00:27] <histo> !synaptics | jcrowgey
[00:27] <lamrz> good night!
[00:27] <jcrowgey> thanks, i'll see if that helps.
[00:28] <obert> hello. i need help on restore my monitor. i got ubuntu on a VM and probably I pressed involuntarily the keyboard shortcuts to get the duplicate monitor, now I dunno how to remove it
[00:29] <PatrickDickey> here's the extra long version of the Xorg log. paste.ubuntu.com/7626195
[00:29] <obert> naturally if I go to Monitor -> settings, the Duplicate monitor checkbox cannot be selected
[00:30] <obert> this is a desktop, not a latop.
[00:30] <obert> please gimme a link where to read about a fix or the keyboard shortcut
[00:32] <domsson> Does anyone know if there is a workaround/solution (or generally has any info/news) on the problem with Ubuntu+Multimonitoring+Java (Windows showing off monitor and/or being at minimum size)?
[00:32] <obert> am i ignored?
[00:33] <kostkon> !patience | obert
[00:33] <jcrowgey> looking at the properties of the device, one looks really suspicious: "Synaptics Area (316): 0, 0, 0, 0"  surely that's not right.
[00:36] <PatrickDickey> So obert let me see if I understand this. You have one monitor hooked up, but somehow you got duplicate monitors activated? Or you have two monitors hooked up, and you want to stop using one?
[00:38] <jcrowgey> well i found the watch-props thing so i'm going to reboot and turn on watch-props and see if anything shows up when the bad behavior starts
[00:39]  * PatrickDickey is trying to reinstall the nvidia driver in recovery mode on the oldest kernel (the one that boots).... If this fails, I'm going back to my ATI card until I can get a newer motherboard.
[00:43] <obert> PatrickDickey: i got an ubuntu ina VM, I see a 'double monitor', someone told me that I could had press  involuntarily the keyboard shortcut to render the monitor on projector. If I go to Settings->Monitor I see the Duplicate monitor checkbox, but it is not selectable
[00:43] <obert> PatrickDickey: this is a desktop with a monitor and a VM
[00:44] <PatrickDickey> obert So it's hooked up to the projector right now then?
[00:44] <dhaval2712>  i instaled lunix how do i hax
[00:44] <obert> PatrickDickey: no idea. never got this issue before.
[00:45] <obert> PatrickDickey: I can only guess that
[00:45] <OerHeks> !hacking | dhaval2712
[00:46] <PatrickDickey> obert http://askubuntu.com/questions/62099/how-can-i-toggle-between-single-and-dual-monitor-setup might give you some ideas. I'd look at #3 myself (xrandr).
[00:46] <dhaval2712> I like how there's a !command for "Hacking" in this IRC. It suggests that this happens often enough that you need this.
[00:47] <Jordan_U> dhaval2712: Please stick to productive Ubuntu support discussion in this channel.
[00:47] <kostkon> dhaval2712, there's #ubuntu-offtopic for general discussion if you're interested
[00:47] <dhaval2712> Right, sorry, I'll leave y'all alone.
[00:47] <VRMac> halp me hax
[00:48] <Viking667> not gonna help you hax anything
[00:48] <OerHeks> !find hax
[00:49] <kostkon> "haxe". close enough
[00:49] <dvorak_> hi all
[00:49]  * PatrickDickey hands VRMac a saw. Here's how you "hax" a computer....
[00:49] <kostkon> dvorak_, hi
[00:50] <obert> PatrickDickey: no. my 'mirror' option is unselectable
[00:50] <Jordan_U> VRMac: Please stick to productive Ubuntu support discussion.
[00:51]  * PatrickDickey thinks he solved the nvidia problems....
[00:51] <daftykins> PatrickDickey: s/nvidia/ghetto hardware/ ;)
[00:51] <PatrickDickey> ;)
[00:52] <PatrickDickey> I ended up booting into recovery mode on the 3.11 kernel, and installing it from the .run file there. It uninstalled the one I did earlier, and reinstalled it. When I rebooted under the latest kernel, it booted up fine.
[00:53] <PatrickDickey> obert when you open Display options, do you see one or two monitors there?
[00:53] <daftykins> PatrickDickey: i think you could've done the same with some dkms commands
[00:54] <obert> PatrickDickey: http://bit.ly/SLVdTj
[00:55] <obert> PatrickDickey: do you see the mess? Duplicare i monitor/Mirror monitors option is unselectable
[00:55] <PatrickDickey> obert, does that happen if you reboot the system? And are you running it in a virtual machine?
[00:55] <obert> PatrickDickey: yes it happens always. it is a VM yep
[00:56] <PatrickDickey> VMWare or virtualbox? Or VirtualPC?
[00:56] <obert> vmware
[00:57] <obert> PatrickDickey: I assume I pressed the keyboard shortcut to enable mirrorred monitors. If you know what it is I could try to restore the machine
[00:57] <raj> how come dpkg-reconfigure tzone doesn't have US/New_York, only US/Eastern
[00:57] <raj> ?
[00:57] <obert> PatrickDickey: since it is a monitor, it is not FN+F9 or whatver
[00:57] <obert> PatrickDickey: since it is a desktop., it is not FN+F9 or whatver
[00:57] <PatrickDickey> raj because New York is in the Eastern Time Zone?
[00:58] <PatrickDickey> obert it looks like it's something in VMWare--not ubuntu. So, you'll want to check your settings for that.
[00:58] <obert> PatrickDickey: searched everywhere.
[00:58] <obert> damn ignorance
[00:59] <PatrickDickey> https://www.vmware.com/support/ws5/doc/ws_learning_keyboard_shortcuts.html might be a place to start. I'm not sure how much has changed from that version to yours.
[00:59] <obert> isnt there a doc page about that mirrorred monitors in ubuntu docs, huh?
[00:59] <PatrickDickey> It's not ubuntu that's doing it though obert. It's VMWare.
[01:00] <obert> PatrickDickey: is that sure?
[01:00] <PatrickDickey> obert, you're in full screen right?
[01:01] <obert> both
[01:01] <obert> i mean it happens always
[01:01] <PatrickDickey> So it shows up in windowed mode also?
[01:02] <obert> mhmh
[01:02] <obert> PatrickDickey: I am updating again the OS but I doubt it will fix it
[01:02] <obert> what is the FX keyboard?
[01:03] <obert> gee I am bad at IT with internet too:(
[01:03] <raj> PatrickDickey, I say because I hear there are issues with using `US/Eastern` and instead `America/New_York` is preferred
[01:04] <PatrickDickey> obert http://askubuntu.com/questions/283018/ubuntu-detects-2-monitors-when-i-only-have-one see if that is similar to your situation.
[01:05] <PatrickDickey> FX is like F1 through F12.
[01:05] <obert> PatrickDickey: thanks
[01:06] <obert> i am scared to play with grub
[01:06] <obert> and if i try to do updates now ubuntu is 'wait to close apt-get
[01:07] <losted> noob question here I have this folder: drwxrwx--- 8 root root 4096 Jun 10 01:14 foldername  and I would like my other user “losted” to have access to it.. how should I proceed?
[01:09] <PatrickDickey> losted, do you want it to have total (rwx) or just rw?
[01:09] <losted> rw
[01:09] <PatrickDickey> sudo chmod 776 foldername would do it. Of course it will give everyone else rw access too.
[01:10] <losted> yeah I dont want everyone else to have access to it too
[01:10] <Bashing-om> losted: Something like chmod 766 <fle_name> ; depending on what you want to allow the user "losted".
[01:11] <somsip> losted: chgrp -R losted and leave it as 770
[01:13] <obert> many thanks for now, anyway
[01:14] <mexi_d3> I have to ask if there's some reason you are doing this in a user account? Are you running a service as a user?
[01:15] <Player_> Hi, does anyone know how to run the Ubuntu Settings Manager from terminal?
[01:15] <Player_> (not a recovery environment)
[01:15] <raj> PatrickDickey, Eastern doesn't do DST
[01:17] <raj> can someone tell me how I can make the timezone American/New_York?
[01:17] <PatrickDickey> raj Arizona and parts of Indiana are the only States that don't observe DST in the US. afaik.
[01:18] <Freeder> Eastern does in fact do DST
[01:19] <PatrickDickey> raj try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime#Using_the_Command_Line_.28terminal.29
[01:19] <Freeder> EDT, atleast
[01:20] <losted> somsip: thanks!
[01:27] <raj> anyway, I fixed it
[01:27] <raj> but for your future reference, America/New_York is definitely better than US/Eastern
[01:28] <Freeder> raj, may I ask what you 'fixed' ? I'm not sure what your actual problem was
[01:29] <raj> my timezone was US/Eastern instead of America/New_York
[01:30] <Freeder> yes, you said that several times, but what was the problem with that
[01:30] <daftykins> sometimes it's better to smile and nod, Freeder
[01:31] <raj> Freeder, day light savings time wasn't observed
[01:33] <blinking> Does anybody know how to make my script start on boot After all the drives are mounted? I've got it to start straight away.
[01:34] <mexi_d3> blinking: have the script sleep when started
[01:34] <mexi_d3> blinking: I'm sure there's a better way though.
[01:35] <PatrickDickey> raj I think you're mistaken. I could be also though. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time_in_the_United_States New York is not listed as one of the States that doesn't observe DST.
[01:35] <blinking> mexi_d3: thats not a bad idea actually, does making it sleep put the whole boot process on hold though?
[01:35] <raj> Apparently `Eastern` doesn't work with DST
[01:35] <PatrickDickey> What time is it there now raj?
[01:35] <Fyodorovna> Player_, what is your definition of "Ubuntu Settings Manager"?
[01:36] <raj> 9:35
[01:36] <PatrickDickey> Ahhhh. I think I see what you're saying now. If you set it to US/Eastern, it's permanently set to EST. Where, if you use America/New_York, it uses both EST and EDT. Right?
[01:37] <Fyodorovna> Player_, Do you mean the compiz config settings manager
[01:38] <raj> yes
[01:55] <locky123> hola alguien que hable español
[01:55] <stasiomod> its just enter, leave. Enter, leave
[01:56] <PROF_IFMS> hello all...
[01:56] <lastarms> hi
[02:06] <capella> \o/ got my touchpad back ... something re: Ubuntu system updates wiped my xorg.conf file
[02:07] <daftykins> ah, most people don't even use a xorg.conf these days.
[02:07] <daftykins> capella: keep a backup called xorg.conf.works beside it so you can replace it in future on updates
[02:07] <mexi_d3> Yea but some laptops you need it to enable the touchpad due to some bug/issue
[02:08] <daftykins> captain state the obvious
[02:08] <mexi_d3> The other problem I have is kernel updates that are no longer compatible with the touchpad driver
[02:08] <capella> daftykins: good idea! noted ...
[02:08] <mexi_d3> multimonitor, multigpu, touchpads and pro audio are all really badly supported and I need to use 3 of those 4 :-(
[02:09] <capella> and yah :) "capt obvious"
[02:09] <raj> losted, hola
[02:09] <losted> raj: hi
[02:10] <mexi_d3> Of course if hi-dpi worked i wouldn't need multi-monitor :-) However, it's hard to complain about that since it doesn't work in Windows either.
[02:15] <PatrickDickey> ok, so I was wrong. I decided to boot to the older kernel, and it locked up again. It'll boot to the newer kernel, but it uses the Xorg version of the nvidia driver instead of the one that I'm installing. :S
[02:24] <lolbonerXD> chmod 777 == chmod 007
[02:27] <he1kki> Civilization V just arrived to Linux! :) http://steamcommunity.com/games/CivilizationV/announcements/detail/1787114954235229948
[02:27] <dino82> cool
[02:29] <Fyodorovna> he1kki, That is spam here.
[02:30] <PatrickDickey> problem solved (maybe) until I can buy a new motherboard and processor. I switched back to my ATI card.
[02:32] <he1kki> Fyodorovna: Sure? It even says Ubuntu 14.04 inside
[02:34] <blinking> how do I change the booting so that I can actually see whats being loaded instead of the ubuntu logo?
[02:35] <cfhowlett> blinking from grub, hit e to edit the boot config
[02:37] <Guest59999> Hi, I have created a /swapfile of 2GB, when I use free -m it says my swap is 1023MB in size. I have only 512MB of ram. Is there a limit to how big your swap file can be given your Ram size?
[02:38] <Fyodorovna> Guest59999, man free -m in the cli
[02:40] <Guest59999> Fyodorovna: it says that it gets its info from /proc/meminfo.
[02:41] <Fyodorovna> Guest59999, http://askubuntu.com/questions/223759/how-to-read-correctly-free-m-output more info try researching if you can.
[02:42] <Guest59999> Fyodorovna: I understand that. In order of Total Used Free my free -m output is: Swap:         1023         33        990
[02:42] <Fyodorovna> Guest59999, That is all I'm gonna help with, this info is all over the web, others may help though.
[02:43] <muddlethru> guest, is there a malfunction?
[02:43] <Guest59999> Fyodorovna: if I do ls -hl /swapfile I get ... root root 2.0G Jun 10 22:34 /swapfile but free only sees 1G?
[02:43] <muddlethru> yeah that's weird
[02:46] <garywsh> ChanServ: your-message
[02:55] <moik> Anyone having trouble connecting to YT's vid servers at the moment?
[02:55] <moik> None of the actual videos are loading in all the IPs I've tried for my area.
[02:58] <yimao> whois cnj
[02:59] <Akuw> what software is good to video editing ?
[02:59] <cfhowlett> Akuw cinerella, kdenlive and my favorite; openshot
[03:00] <Akuw> where repository?
[03:00] <Akuw> what
[03:00] <cfhowlett> !info openshot
[03:09] <user_nu> hello. I'm trying to copy files from an old encrypted Ubuntu home folder. How can I mount it on my new machine?
[03:13] <uofm49426> anyone know were i can add xrandr --output LVDS1  FOR SCALING SO I DONT HAVE TO RUN IT IN TERMINAL EVERY LOGIN
[03:19] <mexi_d3> uofm49426: gui's got a 'startup applications' for your scripts.
[03:26] <kasansweat> So, are there seriously no currently working multicolumn twitter clients? Polly, Turpial and Hotot appear to all be broken...
[03:26] <phunyguy> uofm49426, you got a message here with an answer.  You shouldn't cross post.
[03:29] <uofm49426> there any posting on line how to set a script that can do this with xrandr
[03:30] <phunyguy> uofm49426, there is an applet called "Startup Applications" in system settings
[03:30] <phunyguy> it is there for Ubuntu and Xubuntu.
[03:30] <phunyguy> although in Xubuntu I think it is named slightly different.
[03:31] <phunyguy> uofm49426, http://xubuntugeek.blogspot.com/2011/12/add-application-to-xfcexubuntu-session.html
[03:35] <mexi_d3> Does `setgid` and `setuid` work in upstart? No bugs anyone is aware of? My tasks aren't starting properly if they are set (app starts and crashes out)?
[03:38] <BrianH> Anyone know if Libre Impress has a transition like Magic Move in Keynote?
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[03:53] <sl33k_> Can I come backto my session after ctrl+alt-F7 ?
[03:53] <bluezone> alt F7 maybe
[03:54] <Fyodorovna> sl33k_, ctrl+alt-F1-f6
[03:54] <Fyodorovna> through f1 to f6
[03:55] <arun_> may be f8 too
[03:56] <sl33k_>  bluezone: alt + F7 brought me back...
[03:57] <sl33k_> it prompted me for a username but did not take in. do I have to provide my current username?
[03:58] <Fyodorovna> cool, I have rarely gone there and back, I was wondering if I was correct, mine would of meant another login I believe in the cli, more than one sesssion than
[03:58] <jimbow> the command sudo rm -rf gave me a fresh start
[03:58] <Fyodorovna> jimbow, context?
[03:58] <jimbow> my stuff was going nuts
[03:59] <Fyodorovna> jimbow, not really a good answer part of that command can wipe you clean
[03:59] <jimbow> so i sudo rm -rf / and a nice fresh start made everything again
[03:59] <sl33k_> What are these sessions. What is tty? Whichscreen after login appears?
[03:59] <cfhowlett> !danger|jimbow
[03:59] <cfhowlett> jimbow stop that
[03:59] <jimbow> omg -_-
[03:59] <jimbow> my stuff was going nuts, so i had to reinstall
[04:00] <jimbow> don't use it unless you have to delete everything in your hard drive
[04:00] <cfhowlett> jimbow ask your ubuntu support question
[04:01] <braindrop> why is my network interface called p4p1 in ubuntu 14.04? same hardware it was eth0 before
[04:02] <jimbow> braindrop:
[04:02] <jimbow> braindrop: nano /etc/udev/rules.d
[04:02] <jimbow> change name to eth0
[04:02] <jimbow> :)
[04:02] <braindrop> is there a reason the default was changed?
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> braindrop: maybe this is usefull: http://blogs.bu.edu/mhirsch/2012/12/ubuntu-12-10-renaming-ethernet-interfaces-from-p1p1-to-eth0/comment-page-1/
[04:06] <braindrop> lotuspsychje: very helpful thanks, one confusion, there is no existing config in the rules.d directory. I dont understand why it got named differently, this is a fresh install, nothing strange
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> braindrop: not sure mate, you dindt play with any macchanger or some?
[04:08] <sl33k_> how do I find out my login username?
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> sl33k_: whoami
[04:08] <sl33k_> thanks
[04:09] <loa> hello, gnome-disk tool show that i have bad sectors, how i can get equal information from console?
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | loa
[04:10] <braindrop> lotuspsychje: nope, fresh install on the first boot, even in the installer, it was referred to as p4p1
[04:10] <bluezone> sl33k_, yeahhh!!! I win!
[04:10] <bluezone> haha
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> braindrop: thats strange indeed, but your internet works?
[04:11] <braindrop> it works, but the interface has this odd name
[04:11] <braindrop> same hardware as before when I had 10.04
[04:11] <loa> lotuspsychje, looks like it recieve information from smart...
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> braindrop: never seen this myself, you have ipv6 maybe?
[04:11] <loa> can i do same thing?
[04:12] <braindrop> lotuspsychje: I have ddwrt which maybe is handing out ipv6, but I dont use it
[04:12] <loa> lotuspsychje, i want to monitor my disk, i have some badblocks, i located them and now i want monitor them.
[04:12] <loa> it hard to check every time them in gnome-disk and i can forgot about this.
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> loa: monitor for what purpose?
[04:12] <braindrop> lotuspsychje: I tried to follow instructions from the link you sent and the interface didnt come back up after reboot :(
[04:13] <braindrop> lotuspsychje: now it only has lo
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> braindrop: maybe it uses p4p1 for a reason..
[04:13] <loa> lotuspsychje, i hope that degradation will not continue... i want to check this fact.
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> loa: bad blocks are bad blocks= bad new for a hd
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> news
[04:14] <loa> lotuspsychje, i understand.
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> loa: man bablocks from terminal
[04:16] <need_halp> Hello, I'm having trouble mounting an encrypted home folder from my previous system. I tried using "sudo apt-get install ecryptfs-recover-private" but it failed to find the folder. The I tried browsing to the home folder, but when I open it, I get "This location could not be displayed. You do not have permissions necessary to view the contents of "user".
[04:18] <bluezone> need_halp, did you mount it with sudo maybe?
[04:18] <bluezone> (just a guess)
[04:18] <need_halp> I should or shouldn't mount with sudo? I don't think I did
[04:18] <need_halp> I'm running from a liveCD
[04:19] <bluezone> i think you need to
[04:22] <need_halp> bluezone, is there any easy way to mount as root? I did sudo nautilus, but when I do that I don't see the drive to mount it.
[04:23] <braindrop> I see this in dmesg "[    5.139573] systemd-udevd[159]: renamed network interface eth0 to p4p1" how can I stop this
[04:24] <bluezone> need_halp, thinking sudo mount device abitrary_directory
[04:24] <gabriel__> clear
[04:24] <gabriel__> quit
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> braindrop: think i found it here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/267172/new-nic-device-naming-in-12-10
[04:26] <need_halp> whelp... for some reason it was just working now
[04:26] <need_halp> I didn't do anything
[04:31] <loa> how i can change existing ext4 partition name?
[04:33] <braindrop> lotuspsychje: THANK YOU so much for finding that. but I gotta say, consistent my ass lol
[04:37] <Bashing-om> loa: One way -> sudo tune2fs -L "Raring" /dev/sda8 <- as an example.
[04:37] <loa> Bashing-om, thx, found such option in gnome-disk
[04:38] <Bashing-om> loa: : )
[04:42] <Guest20777> what is the best way to create a shell on another computer using this distro
[04:42] <Akuw> cfhowlett: thanks man
[04:42] <Akuw> i just installed
[04:47] <ssn> hi
[04:47] <ssn> can i quickly ask what files are generated by 12.04 deja dup backup?
[04:48] <ssn> is it .duplicity
[04:48] <ssn> or .dup
[04:48] <ssn> or something else?
[04:49] <root> hi
[04:52] <jellow> is it possible to transfer contents of / to another partition then edit fstab so as to mount from it ?
[04:52] <jellow> I cannot boot a livecd as my bios is locked
[04:56] <jellow> if I did as root user dd /dev/sda5 of=/dev/sda3 bs=4096, conv=notrunc, noerror , and then edit fstab to point to new filesystem, would that possibly work?
[04:58] <ssn> is it gz or tgz?
[05:16] <cumnor> how can I test a cdrom disc? it should have pictures on it from the photographer...but I insert it can't read the disc
[05:18] <jadergabriel> Mornirg
[05:18] <cumnor> evening jadergabriel
[05:20] <loa> cumnor, maybe this helps http://hyperlogos.org/page/Recovering-damaged-CDs-or-DVDs-Linux
[05:21] <loa> this will help *
[05:22] <cumnor> thanks
[05:28] <diverdude> Hello, is there any way to see how fast the attached network interface card is in a linux box?
[05:28] <cumnor> loa:I am getting NOTHIN from using dd... on this...maybe they gave her a blank disc
[05:40] <apb1963> I'm trying to use debootstrap and I keep getting "E: Failed getting release file http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/Release"  any ideas?
[05:44] <Terminus-> hello. what happened to the alternate installers for 14.04? can't find them anymore.
[05:45] <bazhang> Terminus-, discontinued
[05:45] <Terminus-> bazhang: thanks. a pity. it was the only iso type i ever download. got a link to why that decision was made?
[05:46] <bazhang> Terminus-, not sure why, it's been gone for awhile now.
[05:47] <Terminus-> oh well. netboot it is. testing would have been faster with an alternate cd vs mirroring the 14.04 pool.
[05:47] <bazhang> there is still the mini iso
[05:48] <Terminus-> bazhang: yeah, i'm going with that. pretty much network install. it just means that testing will take more time until i decide that it's time to mirror all of 14.04
[05:56] <kolev_> the AWS ubuntu repositories are giving 403 errors
[06:18] <eridu> is there a way (without using ubuntu-tweak) to increase the time needed for the HUD to appear after tapping alt in 14.04? it appears when I M-f in emacs
[06:23] <rd_> so the unity tweak tool is neutered or what?
[06:24] <rd_> cant change windows buttons
[06:25] <igineer> !ops
[06:26] <ikonia> igineer: what's up ?
[06:26] <igineer> getting 403 errors on aws repositories
[06:26] <ikonia> igineer: ok - there is zero need to call the ops for that
[06:26] <igineer> zero need?
[06:26] <ikonia> igineer: if the amazon repos are down, contact amazon
[06:26] <zombu2> lol
[06:26] <igineer> no, it's your repos at amazon
[06:26] <igineer> has nothing to do with amazon
[06:27] <ikonia> igineer: it's not "my" repos -
[06:27] <ikonia> igineer: canonical manage their repos, and mirror owners manage the mirrors
[06:27] <igineer> well, ubuntu's
[06:27] <ikonia> so if they are down - it will be dealt with by who owns the repo
[06:27] <igineer> well, ubuntu's standard ec2 images use those repos
[06:27] <igineer> so, i assume, they should be supported by ubuntu
[06:27] <ikonia> igineer: right, so either a.) wait for them to be fixed b.) point them at another repo
[06:28] <zombu2> ima dial 911 and tell em i m out of smokes
[06:28] <rd_> lmmao
[06:28] <igineer> well, with autoscaling and images, it's not really easy to switch repos as it seems
[06:28] <ikonia> igineer: how does that stop you swiching repos ?
[06:29] <rd_> im guessing the channel doesnt talk about tweak tool?
[06:29] <eridu> ikonia: maybe you could point igineer to a better place to report this
[06:29] <zombu2> dude he calls ops for a small outage what makes you think he can switch a repo
[06:29] <ikonia> eridu: it's already iknown
[06:29] <ikonia> known
[06:30] <eridu> ikonia: is there a status blog igineer could watch?
[06:30] <igineer> really nice positive attitude, guys. one another reason to switch to amazon linux ami and centos!
[06:30] <igineer> i'm not here to have fun and chitchat
[06:30] <igineer> anyway
[06:30] <ikonia> igineer: ok, bye then, good luck with your distro choice
[06:30] <ikonia> eridu: I've been looking for something thats current, not found anything to date,
[06:31] <AnonLucifer> well, why would you change from ubuntu to cent os?
[06:31] <zombu2> lol
[06:31] <ikonia> not really something for this channel
[06:31] <trijntje> igineer, the reason people aren't nice to you is that you were rude by calling the channel ops without reason. The ops should only be called if people are trolling/spamming the channel or making threads
[06:31] <zombu2> get yourself a win disk
[06:31] <igineer> it's a solid reason
[06:31] <ikonia> zombu2: ok, please stop with the silly comments.
[06:32] <igineer> it's not affecting just me but all using ec2 images
[06:32] <zombu2> i m dead sirious
[06:32] <ikonia> igineer: it's known, thanks for alerting us, good luck with your distro change.
[06:33] <igineer> well, this isn't the first time you guys mess up key parts of the ecosystem. maybe third similar incident in just a few months.
[06:33] <zombu2> your point?
[06:34] <ikonia> there is no point, so I sugges you drop the topic
[06:34] <ikonia> the channel is here for support
[06:34] <trijntje> and run by volunteers, not canonical
[06:35] <igineer> very well. it's listed as the only support means over at ubuntu.com. anyway. have fun!
[06:35] <ikonia> thanks
[06:35] <zombu2> bye
[06:45] <ikonia>  /whois igineer
[06:45] <ikonia> oops sorry
[06:47] <blakeeb> Hi - I am trying to upgrade from Precise to Trusty, but it seems "do-release-upgrade -d" now points to Utopic. Is there a way to specify a specific release for do-release-upgrade to upgrade to?
[06:47] <helmut_> hi
[06:48] <trijntje> blakeeb, thats a bug, you cant skip releases of ubuntu, only when going from lts to lts
[06:49] <loa> what actions i must do if i change my root partition?
[06:49] <trijntje> blakeeb, try update-manager -d, and please file a bug report so people are aware of this issue
[06:50] <loa> i need fix fstab and grub.
[06:50] <blakeeb> trijntje: I was able to do this upgrade on several servers last week. I'm on ubuntu server, not interested in installing GUI
[06:50] <loa> with fstab i understand what i need to do, but what about grub?
[06:52] <loa> so after updating fstab i need to just run update-grub?
[07:02] <Jordan_U> loa: Change in what way? If you only changed the label then you don't need to do anything, but when in doubt it won't hurt to run grub-install and update-grub (grub-install being the more important).
[07:02] <loa> Jordan_U, i meen moving it on another partition
[07:02] <Jordan_U> loa: Moving how?
[07:03] <loa> Jordan_U, dd?
[07:03] <loa> i see that my disk start degradate quickly and i am moving prtitons on another drive.
[07:04] <Jordan_U> loa: Having two partitions with identical UUIDs is going to cause problems in general, so be careful with that.
[07:04] <AnonLucifer> so, i have Ubuntu 12.04
[07:04] <loa> Jordan_U, so what i need to do then?
[07:04] <AnonLucifer> how can i update it to 14?
[07:04] <AnonLucifer> without clean install
[07:05] <Jordan_U> loa: Since you're installing grub for a root fs different than your current root, it's essentially the same problem as installing grub from a liveCD.
[07:05] <loa> Jordan_U, maybe stop using uuids for a while?
[07:06] <loa> or i can regenerate uuid after dd?
[07:06] <aeon-ltd> AnonLucifer: why not clean install, jumping like that will probably cause problems which'll take more time to resolve than a backup and fresh installation
[07:07] <Jordan_U> loa: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[07:07] <Jordan_U> loa: tune2fs can change a filesystem's UUID also.
[07:15] <reisei> hi, all! After upgrading to trusty I got some issue: dav_svn don't work: there is nothing in the logs and apache just process that location just as directory... What can be wrong?
[07:16] <aeon-ltd> reisei: svn could mean subversion, so try finding dav by itself
[07:17] <aeon-ltd> reisei: dav could be related to remote storage somewhere
[07:17] <aeon-ltd> reisei: sorry i don't have anything concrete to say
[07:18] <aeon-ltd> reisei: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.1/re58.html ahh it's a part of apache
[07:19] <reisei> aeon-ltd: I have it and it's enabled, but apache2 don't process https://myhost.name/svn as a subversion repository. It counts it like a directory
[07:25] <histo> loa: if you just dd the disk to another you don't hvae to do anything
[07:26] <wheatthin> trying to add a virtual directory to apache2?
[07:27] <wheatthin> reisei, ?
[07:27] <reisei> wheatthin: nope, trying to get apache+svn working after upgrading to trusty
[07:29] <wheatthin> reisei, how are the folder permissions to the svn directory?
[07:29] <reisei> wheatthin: they're good: root:www-data
[07:29] <wheatthin> I don't think it'll run under root:www-data
[07:30] <wheatthin> www-data:www-data
[07:30] <reisei> wheatthin: it works before upgrade
[07:30] <reisei> I just edit mod_svn.conf and it starts working....
[07:30] <reisei> but it didn't accept configuration from the site config... that's strange
[07:31] <wheatthin> cause it's only readable?
[07:32] <reisei> wheatthin: what is only readeable?
[07:32] <reisei> *readable
[07:32] <wheatthin> only readable by the group, and writable by the user root.
[07:33] <reisei> wheatthin: I make the repo writable as by root as by group
[07:33] <wheatthin> that only works if you have credentials tho
[07:33] <wheatthin> and the process is ran by root itself.
[07:40] <reisei> wheatthin: alright. But the problem was not in the permissions, sorry.
[07:44] <wheatthin> mkay.. but that's the only thing other than a default config file that's overriding your config... but mkay
[07:51] <wheatthin> http://www.krizna.com/ubuntu/install-svn-ubuntu-12-04/
[07:53] <wheatthin> I guess apache is ran by www-data, not root, and therefore can't escalate permissions
[08:04] <jellow> Hi there is there a way other than bios/keybinding of enabling broadcom wireless device in a laptop?
[08:10] <trijntje> I'm installing ubuntu to a usb drive so I want to minimise the number of writes to prolong the lifetime of the usb stick. Which folders other then /tmp can be mounted in ram
[08:11] <r3v3rb> morning all, I have a group ‘www-data’ which is owned by ‘www-data’ user. I need my ‘otheruser’ who is in group ‘www-data’ to have permissions to read/write to the ‘www-data’ group files and folders - how can I achieve this?
[08:12] <Ben64> r3v3rb: make the files/folders writable by that group
[08:13] <r3v3rb> yep, i just noticed they are rwxr-xr-x for the folders/files Ben64
[08:13] <r3v3rb> my mistake! it’s early still ;)
[08:15] <jjavaholic> not for the first time unity default themes aren't loaded
[08:16] <Fyodorovna> trijntje, I would not worry to much about writes, modern flash and ssd's have long lives, ssd's equal to spenning HD;s
[08:18] <babinlonston> formatted my pen drive using gpart now its in read only while Formatting from DISK UTILITY its showing as this http://i.imgur.com/v6HIr8M.png  please have a look at this image.
[08:18] <r3v3rb> hmm, okay chmod set up as rwxrwxr-x for the ‘www-data’ group folder - but unison reports ‘Failed: Error in setting permissions:’ any ideas ?
[08:18] <Kartagis> why would ftp fail to establish connection when I do a ls?
[08:19] <jjavaholic> can't change theme in ubuntu-default
[08:21] <Ben64> r3v3rb: what actual command and error are you getting
[08:22] <r3v3rb> Ben64: Im using ‘unison /var/www/site/public_html/assets ssh://100.85.230.62//var/www/site/public_html/assets
[08:22] <r3v3rb>  
[08:22] <r3v3rb> I can ssh into the two machines remotely and via each other locally
[08:23] <r3v3rb> i can run unison a.tmp ssh://100.85.230.62/a.tmp and this syncs without issue
[08:23] <r3v3rb> if I try the /var/www/site/public_html/assets folder I get the failed to set permissions error
[08:24] <Ben64> i don't use unison
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[08:25] <Kartagis> why would ftp fail to establish connection when I do a ls or dir? everything else works
[08:25] <Kartagis> server is vsftpd
[08:28] <r3v3rb> np Ben64
[08:28] <r3v3rb> i tried rsync but as I needed bi-directional sync’ing that didn’t fit the bill
[08:30] <mjr> having installed lubuntu/kubuntu-desktop metapackage on normal ubuntu, how do you get the bootup/shutdown/background screens back into default ubuntu branding instead of the variant?
[08:40] <mjr> okay I got the bootup/shutdown screens changed through plymouth alternatives, but having installed lubuntu/kubuntu-desktop metapackage on normal ubuntu, why does it give me, in a normal Ubuntu/Unity session, a blue background image with a stylized mouse in the middle that looks like it's KDE stuff?
[08:41] <mjr> or is the blue background with stylized mouse actually the default ubuntu background these days?
[08:42] <Fyodorovna> mjr, You install any themes?
[08:42] <mjr> ah, it's the xubuntu background
[08:43] <mjr> not by hand. I just installed kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop to have the options available for users, but I'd like to restore the default background
[08:43] <mjr> and theme, if there's other aspects of it that the metapackage munges up
[08:44] <Fyodorovna> mjr, Background to me on a desktop is the wallpaper, do you mean panel colors?
[08:44] <mjr> I mean the wallpaper, though I'm suspicious of other themic aspects having possibly been modified now as well
[08:45] <mjr> why on earth would installing lubuntu-desktop modify how the Unity desktop looks?
[08:45] <Fyodorovna> mjr, Right click the desktop-change desktop background
[08:46] <mjr> I'm not that interested in changing it per-user, I'd like the normal ubuntu theme system defaults back
[08:46] <Fyodorovna> mjr, I'm not understanding you, maybe others will.
[08:48] <iptable> mjr, lubuntu-desktop does not only install the GUI, it also modifies the themes. Some themes are in shared directory, i.e. shared between the desktops. Things like gtk3 theme will affect all gtk3 windows, no matter what the GUI is.
[08:48] <iptable> mjr, if you just wanted LXDE, you should have only installed that, not the whole lubuntu-desktop
[08:51] <mjr> well that's inconvenient. So what packages do I actually want to install to have KDE, XFCE and LXDE available without messing up the system?
[08:52] <gry> mjr: missing context. But are not xubuntu-desktop, lubuntu-desktop, and kubuntu-desktop enough?
[08:53] <mjr> gry, context was that installing those messes up the themes for the normal Ubuntu desktop as well, as apparently the coexistence of the different -desktop packages is broken that way
[08:53] <mjr> "<iptable> mjr, if you just wanted LXDE, you should have only installed that, not the whole lubuntu-desktop"
[08:54] <gry> I suspect you need to find an answer by trial and error then. Nobody really knows what the issue is. -- xfce4 is a metapackage to get xfce running in a minimal way.
[08:54] <mjr> okay, so probaby lxde, xfce and kde-full
[08:54] <mjr> +4, yes
[08:55] <gry> Bonus points for figuring out which packages conflict to get someone mark them as such.
[08:55] <mjr> the issue is as I said it was; (eg.) lubuntu-desktop messes up the theming of the normal Unity desktop as well, which is not what I'd expect
[08:56] <gry> I had done this in the past - install a few -desktop packages - and now I'm aggressively removing all desktops but one, but still running into issues with desktop wallpaper.
[08:56] <Fyodorovna> mjr, That is a mess, ten bucks says you will be reinstalling in 24 hrs.
[08:56] <gry> I understand what you mean. I disagree with Fyodorovna.
[08:57] <Fyodorovna> I'm hit, I hit. ;)
[08:57] <mjr> Oh I will, if the desktop packages are really that hostile to each other
[08:57] <gry> It is not too hard to peek into logs and revert whatever install you did before.
[08:57] <mjr> this is a large scale installation, can't have bother like that
[08:57] <gry> It has a list of packages it installed in apt logs.
[08:57] <Ben64> !pureubuntu
[08:58] <gry> I hope people don't follow that blindly. It gets out of date (somewhat) easily.
[09:00] <iptable> mjr, another way is to install lubuntu-desktop first, then install all other ones and at the end install ubuntu-desktop. this will override all settings with Unity themes.
[09:01] <ikonia> gry: I'm half tempted to suggest removing that factoid until we have someone/people to maintain a working maintained version
[09:01] <iptable> mjr, end of the day, there are gtk themes, your manager themes (unity/cinnamon/kde) and the login manager themes. there are no other themese. changed those to what you want and it will look the same again.
[09:01]  * iptable goes to get tea
[09:02] <gry> ikonia: I'm pretty sure it would be nice to have a wiki page explaining how to peek in logs and figure out what to uninstall.
[09:02] <flozano> Hi… after updating my 14.04 this morning with latest security updates, I get: gnome-session[30213]: segfault at 968 ip 00007fe6363da8bd sp 00007fff3ff531a0 error 4 in libX11.so.6.3.0[7fe6363a8000+130000] and I can’t login anymore
[09:02] <ikonia> gry: also explaining the conflicts and how to resolve them between different desktop setups
[09:03] <gry> ikonia: Unfortunately writing one involves installing some desktop thing and uninstalling it -- which I'd rather not do. My system is in a mess at the moment.
[09:03] <ikonia> gry: I think it needs to be more a small group of people to maintain it, the factoids content tends to fail when it's a one man show, especially on such a big moving target such as the desktop
[09:03] <flozano> any idea why this may be happening?
[09:04] <mike777> hi, I'm getting "NTLDR missing" error when booting, what should I do?
[09:04] <gry> ikonia: Out of curiousity, why need to maintain a list if people can look in logs and undo?
[09:04] <Ben64> mike777: thats a windows problem. ask in ##windows
[09:04] <ikonia> mike777: the ##windows channel can explain how to put ntldr back
[09:04] <mjr> reinstalling with dependencies changed to only pull in the desktops and not the .ubuntu-desktops, lessee how that goes
[09:04] <gry> ikonia: For example, I installed konsole, I used it for years, then I installed kubuntu-desktop and would like to undo it. -- Your instructions logic would have me uninstall konsole too.
[09:04] <ikonia> gry: it's more the guide, people don't want to trace packages remove and replace, they want a step by step guide / cheat sheet, or list of known conflicts/problems
[09:05] <Fyodorovna> mjr, would you like my paypal for the ten bucks. ;)
[09:05] <gry> It is not much work in my view. But known conflicts is a nice thought.
[09:05] <ikonia> gry: what isn't much work,. how to trace packages, or maintaining a guide
[09:05] <gry> How to trace.
[09:05] <ikonia> gry: I agree, but people don't want to do it
[09:06] <gry> Then someone needs to script it for them. A log viewer.
[09:06] <mike777> Ben64: ikonia: nope, it's not, it's a generic error message my motherboard uses, there is no windows installed on this HDD
[09:06] <mike777> it just can't find grub bootloader
[09:06] <mike777> but I don't know why
[09:06] <ikonia> mike777: no it's not
[09:06] <ikonia> your motherboard has no idea of the OS
[09:07] <Ben64> mike777: sorry to inform you, but that is most definitely not a motherboard error
[09:07] <mike777> but I'm telling you I've never installed windows on it
[09:07] <ikonia> mike777: what OS is on the disk ?
[09:07] <Ben64> well something is trying to boot windows and it's not working properly
[09:07] <mike777> ikonia: ubuntu 12.04
[09:07] <ikonia> mike777: do you get a grub menu ?
[09:07] <mike777> ikonia: nope
[09:08] <mike777> you can search this, most motherboards assume windows is installed and show this error
[09:08] <Ben64> mike777: that is incorrect
[09:08] <Fyodorovna> mike777, ntldr is XP it is eol.
[09:09] <mike777> well, anyway, what can I do now?
[09:09] <gry> mike777: Hi. You have Ubuntu on it. What changed before you started getting the error? Does Live CD boot?
[09:09] <Ben64> mike777: fix grub? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[09:09] <mike777> I've tried grub-install 2 times but it's not working
[09:09] <gry> What does it say?
[09:10] <mike777> gry: it used to give me this message sometimes but always booted on the second restart, now it won't boot at all
[09:10] <mike777> gry: it succeeds but I get the same message on reboot
[09:10] <Fyodorovna> !bootinfo | mike777 this script would clear alot of questions
[09:10] <ahmad-> hey guys I need help
[09:11] <mike777> ok, I'll try running this script
[09:11] <mike777> yes Live CD boots btw
[09:12] <ahmad->  My laptop is Dell Inspiron 3521 and I am using Ubuntu 12.04. The problem is that my laptop does't detect my bluetooth.
[09:12] <Fyodorovna> mike777, If you used the bootrepair app same basic script is auto generated.
[09:12] <ahmad->  any help ?
[09:12] <mike777> can I trust this script?
[09:13] <Fyodorovna> mike777, It is in the bot, and a app used by many to fix there boot, a well known script.
[09:13] <mike777> all right
[09:14] <mike777> ok I got the RESULTS.txt
[09:14] <mike777> what am I looking for?
[09:14] <mike777> it says "Grub2 (v1.99) is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda"
[09:14] <Fyodorovna> mike777, Paste bin all the text
[09:19] <ahmad-> can anyone help me
[09:19] <ahmad-> ?
[09:19] <bcvery> !patience | ahmad
[09:23] <g105b> I can boot into recovery terminal and type startx to get to my desktop fine, but normal boot doesn't work. I get the error that mounting / failed, and that plymouth has a fatal error.
[09:23] <Fyodorovna> mike777, I gotta crash, notice per the bot. " look at RESULTS.txt (or !pastebin it for others to look at)."
[09:24] <ponzellus> set theme FearTheGerbilz
[09:25] <ponzellus> ups, my mistake :)
[09:26] <flozano> after updating my 14.04 this morning with latest security updates, I get: gnome-session[30213]: segfault at 968 ip 00007fe6363da8bd sp 00007fff3ff531a0 error 4 in libX11.so.6.3.0[7fe6363a8000+130000] and I can’t login anymore
[09:27] <bcvery> !bluetooth | ahmad, if this doesn't help ask your question again in 20 minutes or so
[09:33] <frdmn> hello
[09:33] <frdmn> can someone tell me how to get php 5.3?
[09:33] <frdmn> i used apt-get install php5 but thats 5.5
[09:33] <frdmn> can someone tell me how to get the 5.3?
[09:34] <frdmn> arrow up fail, sorry
[09:36] <sol__> http://ar2.php.net/downloads.php
[09:38] <histo> frdmn: is there a reason you need 5.3?
[09:43] <Kira_> Hi, everybody
[09:43] <cryptexus> Hi
[09:44] <Kira_> I have a prob within forum
[09:44] <Kira_> I cann't edit my profile
[09:44] <Kira_> it says that I don't have permissions for it
[09:45] <Kira_> it's strange((
[09:45] <bcvery> Kira_, Support for the Ubuntu forums can be found in #ubuntuforums
[09:45] <EleanorEllis> Im using Ubuntu 14.04 with Gnome fallback. I only have 1 workspace even though I have turned on Workspaces in Settings|Appearance. Any ideas?
[09:47] <Nubuntu> hey guys, I am trying a fresh install for dual boot Win 7/Ubuntu, probably starting with 12.4.4 LTS. I installed windows on a 120GB SSD, creating a 40GB partition, I want to put Ubuntu on this same SSD but it is a secondary hard drive and I am concerned whether everything will go to this drive or some of the stuff like GRUB will end up on the main HD? What do I need to create to get entire Ubuntu install on the SSD?
[09:47] <frdmn> histo: my customers requirement, yes
[09:48] <frdmn> i try to stick with this method: http://hastebin.com/ohumezivoy
[09:48] <frdmn> if i do apt-cache show php5 it still shows 5.5
[09:48] <frdmn> how to specify the ppa when searching/intalling for a apt package?
[09:48] <Nubuntu> anyone?
[09:49] <EleanorEllis> Nubuntu: Just a minute
[09:49] <Nubuntu> i just need to know if I select the SSD, i think its sdc...whether Ubuntu knows to put everything on the same hard drive or if it will attempt to split it
[09:50] <m1dnight> you want to install them on the same SSD, right?
[09:50] <Nubuntu> correct, unless thats a bad idea, i figured for speed since the other is a reg
[09:50] <m1dnight> if you windows is on /dev/sda1 then linux should go on /dev/sda as well, and your bootloader should go on /dev/sda (no number)
[09:50] <zaitzev> hey all. How can I use (e)grep to search for a string only in files/paths that are listed in a textfile?
[09:50] <m1dnight> simply create 2 prtitions in the empty space
[09:50] <m1dnight> one ext4 and one swap
[09:51] <m1dnight> bootloader goes into /dev/sda
[09:51] <m1dnight> that's how I do it
[09:51] <m1dnight> but then again, I'm no pro :p
[09:51] <Nubuntu> midnight, so i choose something else option?
[09:52] <Nubuntu> i need to know whether i just need / and swap or if i need any others
[09:52] <m1dnight> Nubuntu: I did the asme on my 2 rigs yesterda
[09:52] <m1dnight> nothing else
[09:52] <EleanorEllis> Nubuntu: You can install ubuntu onto sdc if you want to. However, the bootloader (grub) will have to go into the Master Boot Record of sda, even though it references /boot/grub on sdc. The problem is that if you remove sdc or sdc becomes for example sdb for some reason then the small part of grub in the MBR of sda will not be able to find the rest of it
[09:52] <m1dnight> ext4 mountpoint '/' and a swap (if you want
[09:53] <gry> frdmn: see http://vassie.me/setting-a-higher-priority-to-a-ppa-in-ubuntu/ and the documentation it links to
[09:54] <Nubuntu> EleanorEllis, how can i prevent that from happening, or else what is the best way to do this? i already moved the secondary hard drive up in the queue
[09:54] <EleanorEllis> Nubuntu: m1dnight: I also create a separate partition for /home as well as a separate partition for swap. The reason for the separate home partition is then all my distros can use the same home partition and also when I upgrade the distro, it is easy to repoint the new distro to the separate home partition
[09:55] <m1dnight> EleanorEllis: that is correct and indeed a good practice, however, I'm not that experienced with intallation so I try to keep it simple :p
[09:55] <m1dnight> I was happy I only had to do grub-update last time, instead of boot repair :p :p
[09:55] <EleanorEllis> Nubuntu: If grub references the hard disk by uuid instead of by sdxy notation then it doesnt matter where the disk drive appears in the queue. You would have to check your grub config
[09:55] <m1dnight> im learning
[09:55] <Nubuntu> EleanorEllis, i just had an error last install and it took me to grub rescue, im afraid whether it will find it. Also i deleted everything on all disks with Gparted, does this ruin the MBR
[09:56] <EleanorEllis> Nubuntu: No. Gparted will not touch the MBR unless you tell it to.
[09:56] <EleanorEllis> Nubuntu: I mean deleting partitions will not affect the MBR
[09:57] <Nubuntu> EleanorEllis, it was actually done in the installation process with the something else option then i cleared everything there it erased so i have 2 blank discs, though now the SSD has windows so i just need the best way to get linux running and recognized enough to dualboot, also i am in legacy non secure if this will work?
[09:58] <histo> Nubuntu: the last step of the install grub gets installed to /dev/sda  you can install ubuntu to any drive you want.
[09:58] <histo> Nubuntu: when you computer boots it will bring up a grub menu and ask you to select to boot windows or ubuntu
[10:00] <frdmn> gry: shouldnt i see at least the 5.3 with "apt-cache show php5" before i do that?
[10:00] <histo> frdmn: apt-get update after adding a repo
[10:00] <mashu> mplayer, can it play videos in terminal?
[10:00] <Nubuntu> histo, so what does that mean if windows on SSD drive (2) and i specify Ubuntu to that same SSD. Do I have to choose something else and make all those mount options or can i choose default install? And will GRUB then go to HD (1) by itself while the system is installed on SSD (2)?
[10:02] <histo> Nubuntu: If you use the guided partitioning it will resize the windows partitionj and install ubuntu to the empty space. Or you can choose something else and manually do it.  Grub will go to hd 1 and the system can be installed on hd 2
[10:02] <histo> !dualboot | Nubuntu
[10:02] <Nubuntu> the reason i ask is because when i choose something else install it asks where i want the bootloader and gives me dropdown for both discs
[10:02] <histo> Nubuntu: you put the boot loader on teh disk that boots
[10:02] <histo> Nubuntu: doesn't matter where the OS is installed.
[10:03] <histo> Nubuntu: you could install ubuntu on a thumb drive and install the bootloader to the hard drive and get it to boot
[10:03] <histo> kindof
[10:03] <frdmn> histo: http://hastebin.com/macehizecu
[10:03] <Nubuntu> histo, so it will find it on any media is what you are saying?
[10:03] <frdmn> it stills shows only one package
[10:03] <frdmn> after i ran "aptitude update"
[10:03] <histo> Nubuntu: it what? find what?
[10:04] <Nubuntu> histo, i mean it doesnt matter where i put it then is what im asking. I should put the bootloader on the SSD and same with the mounts?
[10:04] <histo> Nubuntu: Your first step should be to backup your windows stuff. Second step read the dualboot link above.  Then decide how and where you want to install ubuntu.
[10:04] <histo> Nubuntu: You put the boot loader on the hard drive that is set to boot in the bios
[10:04] <histo> Nubuntu: that way then the bios hands off to the hard drive you can pick which os to load.
[10:05] <Nubuntu> histo, windows is backed up and how do i know which is set in BIOS, wouldnt that be whichever is higher in the queue, its just boot order right?
[10:05] <histo> frdmn: what repo did you add?
[10:06] <histo> Nubuntu: the windows drive is set to boot in the bios obviously install grub to that drive
[10:06] <histo> Nubuntu: put ubuntu where ever you want
[10:07] <Nubuntu> histo, well i chose to put windows on that drive , could have picked either. So all youre saying is put the bootloader on the same drive as my other OS basically..they should share the same drive whichever i chose?
[10:10] <histo> yes
[10:12] <histo> Nubuntu: you couldn't have installed windows to the other drive btw.
[10:12] <histo> Nubuntu: atleast not easily
[10:13] <Nubuntu> histo, well my regular drive was the original install, bought the SSD, added it to the laptop and then installed the windows OS on the SSD, so I am confused now
[10:14] <histo> Nubuntu: as am I
[10:14] <histo> Nubuntu: You aren't making any sense
[10:16] <Nubuntu> histo, like I said my laptop originally had a regular drive preloaded from the factory with windows. I deciced to purchase an SSD and use it instead because of speed. My laptop holds 2 hard drives. I deleted everything on both drives and during windows setup i told windows to install on the SSD (it showed both drives as an option to install on)
[10:16] <histo> Nubuntu: okay and where are you installing ubuntu now?  The ssd or the regular disk?
[10:18] <histo> Nubuntu: doesn't matter actually just install grub to the ssd
[10:18] <Nubuntu> histo, my goal was to install it on the SSD as well (again for speed reasons), and use the main HD as a data drive. So basically trying to put Ubuntu on the SSD as well, even though it shows up in bios as "secondary hard drive", its the disk windows is on so not sure if that matters
[10:19] <Nubuntu> histo, ok so when i do this in the future i just put grub to wherever the other OS is and thats the only important thing?
[10:19] <histo> Nubuntu: yes put ubuntu on the ssd then and have grub install to the ssd.  You can create a /home partition on the regular disk for your data?  or format the regular disk ntfs and use it in both windows and linux for storage
[10:19] <BrixSat> hello after a resize of a disk i get "error: out of patition. Grub rescue>" what can i do?
[10:20] <histo> Nubuntu: you put grub where ever the computer boots first
[10:20] <histo> BrixSat: resize of what partition?
[10:20] <Nubuntu> histo, ok got it and is it better to use the data disk for /home?
[10:20] <BrixSat> histo:  the sda1
[10:21] <BrixSat> histo: /
[10:21] <histo> Nubuntu: Well all your user data gets stored in your /home/username folder.  Your ssd isn't that big I'd assume so I would setup that way personally.
[10:21] <EleanorEllis> Nubuntu: I just crashed and had to reboot so I didnt see any messages after I suggested posting screenshots
[10:22] <histo> BrixSat: do you have a live cd or thumbdrive to boot to and fix it?
[10:22] <BrixSat> histo:  yes i can boot from a live cd of ubuntu
[10:22] <Nubuntu> EleanorEllis, no problem, at this point im down to whether i should use create /home on the data disk or the SSD. I plan on upgrading version so if that matters...
[10:23] <histo> BrixSat: boot there check if your partition is resized and fsck it
[10:23] <histo> Nubuntu: upgrading version what?
[10:23] <histo> Nubuntu: you can always move /home later not a big deal.
[10:23] <EleanorEllis> Nubuntu: I recommend creating a separate /home somewhere. Doesnt matter which disk it is on. Can you post screenshots from gparted so I can see what you have?
[10:24] <BrixSat> histo:  the partition is resized yes and then what? just fsck or any params?
[10:25] <Nubuntu> EleanorEllis, screenshots from LiveUSB or..? If so, how...I am new to Ubuntu
[10:25] <histo> BrixSat: yeah just fsck /dev/sda#
[10:25] <BrixSat> histo:  thanks doing it :) report soon
[10:26] <histo> Nubuntu: it's not a big deal.. As i've said you can move /home or whatever later.
[10:26] <histo> Nubuntu: grub however is a big deal
[10:26] <Nubuntu> histo, ok so basically i can put everything on the SSD for now for simplicity?
[10:26] <histo> Nubuntu: yes
[10:27] <histo> Nubuntu: And if you're going to do that I would create an ntfs partition on the regular disk for use in both OS's although you won't need windows anymore.
[10:27] <Nubuntu> histo, ok im going to see how far i get this time, i received grub errors last time so with fresh install i will see
[10:28] <EleanorEllis1> Nubuntu: Sorry I keep having problems and had to reboot again!
[10:29] <histo> Nubuntu: you may also want to tweak your fstab after getting it installed to reduce writing to the SSD
[10:30] <Nubuntu> histo, i will look into that if i get that far. right now even getting a clean version of ubuntu has been a problem i think maybe the installation got messed up because of persistence because drive said (1) error last time i scanned so im making a new image
[10:30] <iszak> I'm trying to mount a hard drive in rescue, but it doesn't seem to want to mount it, I tried type ext3,ext4,auto but none works, I believe it's Ubuntu 12.04
[10:30] <Ben64> iszak: what command are you using
[10:30] <BrixSat> histo:  /dev/sda1 clean
[10:30] <histo> Nubuntu: Do you even need windows?
[10:31] <BrixSat> histo: /dev/sda1 clean
[10:31] <histo> BrixSat: can you pastebin sudo parted /dev/sda print
[10:32] <iszak> Ben64: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[10:32] <Nubuntu> histo, im not sure..but i put it back because i needed some operating system and ubuntu 14.04 LTS wouldnt install properly. The first time it looked good but then i tried to tweak graphics driver and had to reinstall. Then everytime i reinstalled it had some error or another it wouldnt boot properly or crash during install. I have no idea why. Usually in windows doing a fresh install fixes all for me
[10:33] <histo> Nubuntu: what video card do you have?
[10:33] <ThatGuy> Does any one know ot how use ufw here to block all connects out by a program?
[10:33] <Ben64> iszak: ok, then what type does sda1 have when you do "blkid"
[10:33] <Nubuntu> histo, SLi GTX765m, and i just wanted to use whatever was best
[10:33] <iszak> Ben64: FYI this is my fdisk -l output http://pastebin.com/JmWGAjr0
[10:34] <iszak> Ben64: http://pastebin.com/udD2VG5P that explains it..
[10:34] <BrixSat> histo:  the number1 is 371GB when is should be 356
[10:34] <iszak> Ben64: the thing is I want to access sda3
[10:34] <Nubuntu> histo, also i wasnt sure whether to use xorg or proprietary nvidia drivers or...other?
[10:34] <histo> iszak: was it lvm disk?
[10:34] <histo> BrixSat: well that's not good
[10:34] <iszak> Ben64: but it's not listed with blkid
[10:35] <iszak> histo: err.. I'm not sure, this is off site hosting, setup via a control panel, so possibly
[10:35] <Ben64> iszak: sda3 is not really a partition, so that is definitely not the one you want
[10:35] <histo> Nubuntu: well It should point you towards the right drivers after install.
[10:35] <iszak> Ben64: oh right, my mistake.
[10:36] <Nubuntu> histo, i just looked in software and updates...it lets you select xorg or Nvidia. By default xorg noveau was selected
[10:36] <iszak> Ben64: histo okay seems sda7 is what I want
[10:37] <BrixSat> histo: this is a vm and thesize of the disk is really 356
[10:37] <iszak> Okay next problem is, I couldn't SSH into my machine, I got connection refused, how can I check the iptables/sfw ?
[10:37] <histo> Nubuntu: I believe there is still a proprietary driver helper installed
[10:37] <histo> Nubuntu: search for hardware in the dash or driver
[10:37] <histo> BrixSat: well then shrink the partition
[10:38] <BrixSat> histo:  the partition is nice the disk is being marked as big but it is not
[10:39] <BrixSat> histo:  im confudes
[10:39] <histo> BrixSat: well none of us can tell because you won't pastebin the output of sudo parted /dev/sda print
[10:39] <Nubuntu> ill have to figure out how to do that once i am that far. I just want to be able to run all the apps that video card is capable of and it not turning out to be a limiting factor. But it wouldnt tell me whether to use proprietary or the default one which was checked (Xorg)
[10:39] <BrixSat> histo:  ill pastebinit one sec
[10:41] <BrixSat> histo: http://pastebin.com/PAPN3Mk8
[10:43] <histo> BrixSat: do you have the little bit of text above that?
[10:43] <HelPiNgU2> waht are you trying to do?
[10:44] <histo> HelPiNgU2: who?
[10:44] <BrixSat> histo:  yes i have dis /dev/sda: 382GB sectgor size logical/physical: 512B/512B
[10:45] <histo> BrixSat: looks good reboot
[10:46] <histo> BrixSat: this is a vm?
[10:47] <BrixSat> histo:  yes
[10:47] <histo> BrixSat: were you screwing with settings for hard drive?
[10:47] <BrixSat> histo:  yes downsize of big disk
[10:47] <iszak> how can i change a users password whilst in rescue?
[10:48] <histo> iszak: passwd username
[10:48] <iszak> histo: it says user does not exist..
[10:48] <histo> iszak: do you have access to your files?
[10:48] <iszak> histo: yes
[10:48] <histo> iszak: chroot to the mountpoint of your /   then passwd username
[10:50] <iszak> what does chroot do?
[10:50] <histo> BrixSat: So you downsized the disk how did you resize it in linux?
[10:50] <histo> iszak: change root
[10:50] <lamrz> hello everyone, I wanted to safely remove a drive, and it's been 'writing data to disk' for 30 Minutes!!
[10:50] <lamrz> could you please let me know how can I at least stop the process?
[10:51] <histo> lamrz: open a terminal and sync; sync; sync;  then umount
[10:51] <lamrz> histo, first I type this: 'sync; sync; sync;' ?
[10:51] <histo> lamrz: yeah
[10:52] <Nubuntu> histo, hey I am at the ubuntu installation prompt and for boot loader it has option to install boot loader to dev/sbd or dev/sdb1 Windows 7 (loader)...which do I pick ?
[10:52] <daschel> This isn't exactly an ubuntu problem, but the guys in #terminator aren't responding.  does anyone use terminator that might be willing to give me a hand?
[10:52] <lamrz> that could be band name: the sync sync syncs
[10:52] <histo> Nubuntu: /dev/sdb
[10:53] <histo> lamrz: nope it flushes the fs buffers
[10:53] <iszak> histo: thanks, you guys are a knowledge bank.
[10:53] <nekslag> Does someone has experience with 802.1X authentication? My Radius server is a windows 2012. MSchapv2 is working but EAP refused the connection. Thanks for all your help.
[10:53] <frdmn> histo: ppa:eugenesan/ppa
[10:54] <histo> frdmn: you would have to follow the directions from your ppa maintainer
[10:54] <lamrz> histo, after typing the cursor moved to the line below, and keeps blinking..seems taking a while
[10:54] <frdmn> histo: well i tried this: http://askubuntu.com/a/462707
[10:55] <histo> lamrz: whoops extra ; at the end   just type sync and press enter at the blinky cursor
[10:55] <lamrz> histo, maybe I can close terminal to restart the command?
[10:56] <histo> frdmn: did you apt-get update  ??
[10:56] <frdmn> yes
[10:56] <frdmn> i did
[10:56] <histo> frdmn: that's odd
[10:56] <lamrz> histo, so is it: 'sync; sync; sync; extra;' ?
[10:57] <histo> lamrz: no lol. just type sync and press enter
[10:57] <histo> lamrz: does it complete?
[10:58] <lamrz> histo only this:  ~$ sync  ?
[10:58] <frdmn> histo: apt-cache show shows me this: http://hastebin.com/lowemukixe
[10:59] <histo> lamrz: yes
[10:59] <BrixSat> histo:  i resized in booth
[10:59] <flozano> after today’s 14.04 udpate, I get a segfault with gnome-session
[10:59] <lamrz> histo, no it keeps blinking.
[10:59] <flozano> any idea?
[10:59] <histo> frdmn: okay apt-get install php5 then that's 5.3
[10:59] <HelPiNgU2> daschel, ok what?
[11:00] <histo> BrixSat: how did you do the resize?
[11:00] <frdmn> histo: omg, i was on the wrong server sorry
[11:00] <frdmn> here's my apt-cache show php5
[11:00] <histo> lamrz: do you know where the disk is mounted?
[11:01] <lamrz> histo, if you mean as /dev/sdbX, yes
[11:01] <histo> lamrz: that's the device but what directory is it mounted to?
[11:01] <daschel> HelPiNgU2:  Im new to Terminator, and I just setup a layout as  the default, but when terminator loads the two child terminals have a height of 0. but when I run terminator with --debug, all the terminals are opened with the appropriate dimensions.  any idea?
[11:01] <lamrz> histo, I dont know how to answer that
[11:02] <histo> lamrz: run mount in a terminal and see then you can lsof /that/mount/point/*  to see if any files are in use
[11:02] <histo> lamrz: fuser /dev/sdbX
[11:03] <frdmn> histo: http://hastebin.com/sehomiguza
[11:03] <HelPiNgU2> daschel, you could try deleting the config file and starting over...  problem does not sound familliar
[11:03] <histo> frdmn: No idea you'd have to contact the ppa maintainer it's probably something with his package versioning or something.
[11:04] <frdmn> alright
[11:04] <Aaruni> if I install ubiquity on my current ubuntu install, is it possible for me to install other systems from that install ?
[11:05] <lamrz> histo, can I just restart the computer? would that damage anything?
[11:05] <iszak> So I'm trying to boot up my remote server but it's not loading, is there a log I can view when in rescue to see where it went wrong?
[11:05] <histo> lamrz: just fuser -m /dev/sdbX  what does that show?
[11:05] <daschel> HelPiNgU2: no luck, but thanks all the same
[11:06] <lamrz> histo, in the previous command there wasn't -m, it didnt show anything
[11:06] <histo> lamrz: yeah sorry typo'd add the -m
[11:06] <Nubuntu> ok, just got 12.04.4 LTS to install but it doesnt detect wireless card and i dont see software and updates icon? it also notified me incomplete language packs...is all of this normal?
[11:07] <histo> Nubuntu: why areyou installing 12.04?
[11:07] <iszak> histo: I guess because 14.04.1 isn't out yet
[11:07] <histo> Nubuntu: anyhoot in a terminal lspci | grep Network
[11:07] <Nubuntu> histo, only because i had an issue with 14.04 and wanted to make sure it was ok first
[11:08] <HelPiNgU2> daschel, config is in ~/.config/terminator/config
[11:08] <HelPiNgU2> hmm
[11:08] <HelPiNgU2> not sure about that
[11:08] <histo> Nubuntu: what wireless chipset is that command showing
[11:08] <Nubuntu> histo, BCM4352
[11:09] <histo> !broadcom | Nubuntu
[11:10] <histo> Nubuntu: do you have a wire you can plug in for internet?
[11:10] <daschel> HelPiNgU2: yea, i know.  i mean that I just tried it and it didn't work
[11:12] <Nubuntu> histo, yeah i guess ill have to hardwire in, im trying to follow the guide, what do i run after i plug ethernet in?
[11:13] <histo> Nubuntu: if you have a cable youc an plug into just go to Additional drivers or hardware drivers int he dash and install the driver it recomends
[11:13] <histo> Nubuntu: probably STA
[11:14] <ThatGuy> any one know a per app firewall for 14.04?
[11:15] <iptable> ThatGuy, per app? I.e. blocking incoming/outgoing connections for certain binaries?
[11:16] <histo> !ufw | thatguy
[11:16] <Nubuntu> histo, someone is sleeping in the room with the router so i am trying to see if i can activate a driver offline?
[11:16] <ThatGuy> iptable, yes I want to block a program to only allow connection to one IP so it can proxy and if the proxy goes down it cant connect to any other IP until the proxys back up
[11:16] <histo> Nubuntu: did you install from cd or thumbdrive?
[11:17] <iptable> histo, ufw doesn't do per app
[11:17] <iptable> ThatGuy, you can do that per user using iptables, but not per app from what I remember
[11:17] <iptable> ThatGuy, you could configure the app with suid so it runs as some user A and do the rules fro that user
[11:17] <histo> iptable: ahh yes just services
[11:17] <histo> would be teh closest thing with ufw
[11:18] <ThatGuy> iptable, ok fair enough. Do what iptables commands i need to do?
[11:18] <iptable> ThatGuy, google: iptables block per user
[11:18] <histo> ThatGuy: what do you want to block or allow?
[11:18] <ThatGuy> block all but say local netowrk and say 8.8.8.8
[11:18] <ThatGuy> basicly
[11:19] <iptable> ThatGuy, also look at Zorp, *might* do what you want it to
[11:19] <histo> Nubuntu: I have to go to sleep broadcom is a pita in older versions of linux.
[11:19] <ThatGuy> disallow 0.0.0.0
[11:19] <histo> Nubuntu: anyone here can help you get going.
[11:19] <ThatGuy> and then allow 192.168.2.0/24 and ip 8.8.8.8
[11:19] <iptable> ThatGuy, first: iptables -A OUTPUT -o ethX -m owner --uid-owner {USERNAME} -j DROP
[11:19] <Nubuntu> histo, ok thanks yeah i loaded the folder from the thumbdrive but it says Dependency is not satisfiable: dkms
[11:20] <iptable> ThatGuy, then: iptables -I OUTPUT -o ethX -m owner --uid-owner {USERNAME} -p tcp --dport 53 --destination 8.8.8.8 -j ACCEPT
[11:20] <iptable> ThatGuy, that will block all access and the (-I) inserts a rule on top that only allows access to tcp port 53 to 8.8.8.8 (although, for DNS, you might want udp :P)
[11:21] <ThatGuy> ok
[11:21] <ThatGuy> thanks
[11:21] <iptable> ThatGuy, I'm not sure you need USERNAME or USERID, so check with both
[11:21] <iptable> I think UID, sorry
[11:21] <iptable> ThatGuy, you can also do by GID (group ID)
[11:22] <iptable> ThatGuy, ACTAULLY, there is a way to do per app. I am silly, really.
[11:22] <ThatGuy> ow ok d
[11:22] <ThatGuy> yay
[11:22] <iptable> ThatGuy, check our AppArmor and SELinux - these 2 do by application
[11:22] <iptable> although apparmor and selinux tke a bit of learning, they are worth it. these are built for per-app security
[11:22] <ThatGuy> iptable, Looking in to SE
[11:23] <iptable> ThatGuy, for ubuntu look into AppArmor first. it's default for it and a lot easier to understand. not sure it does port blocking for the apps though.
[11:23] <iptable> ThatGuy, on ubuntu, SELinux can be installed and used as well, but it's not there by default :P
[11:24] <ThatGuy> I think app amour is file system
[11:24] <ThatGuy> looked at it like 30 mins ago
[11:25] <ThatGuy> I think iptables might be better
[11:25] <ThatGuy> shall try that
[11:25] <iptable> ThatGuy, well, it does filesystem, didn't know if you could make it do network. SELinux on the other hand can do network from what I understand.
[11:25] <iptable> ThatGuy, iptables is per process/user/group blocking, much easier, etc. Your call.
[11:26] <Xaft> Hi, I've been using 14.04 ever since release, but have noticed recently (within last 2 weeks) that after about an hour of running the OS, it begins to slow down a bit when changing/closing/opening applications. Has anyone else had this issue or know how to solve it?
[11:26] <ThatGuy> Ill be back in 20 or so getting food
[11:26] <ThatGuy> shall try iptables with usrers
[11:26] <iptable> Xaft, nope. Running 14.04 at 5-days-at-a-time during weekdays, no slowdown.
[11:27] <bareGritz> ive supported ubuntu and donated money but is Ubuntu New world order? like freenod eis controlled by jews so is ubuntu related to freenode and the jew empire?
[11:27] <iptable> Xaft, maybe you out of RAM? could be application memory leak. check free -m
[11:27] <Xaft> iptable, cheers, but damn
[11:27] <Xaft> iptable, whats the command, "free -m"? odd command
[11:27] <bareGritz> is Ubuntu freenode/ jew world order?
[11:27] <bareGritz> or not?
[11:27] <bareGritz> and if not Prove it to me
[11:27] <iptable> Xaft, free -m - free memory, show in megabytes
[11:28] <iptable> IdleOne, that's good proof :D
[11:28] <Aji_> hello
[11:28] <Xaft> iptable, nah got 8.2GB free
[11:29] <Aji_> anyone??
[11:29] <iptable> Xaft, if you never read the output or it, read this to understand how to read it: www.linuxatemyram.comAA
[11:29] <iptable> Xaft, www.linuxatemyram.com
[11:29] <Aji_> i need a help
[11:29] <iptable> Aji_, how about asking the actual question?
[11:29] <Xaft> iptable, to read the command output? (can't open chrome right now, takes 10 minutes)
[11:29] <iptable> Aji_, might help you...
[11:29] <Aji_> okay i'll tell
[11:29] <iptable> Xaft, firefox? doesn't memory-leak
[11:30] <Aji_> actually i can't boot into my desktop now
[11:30] <Aji_> its going into grub
[11:30] <iptable> Xaft, free memory is free+buffers
[11:30] <iptable> Xaft, this one tells you actual amounts: -/+ buffers/cache:       1063       6783
[11:30] <Aji_> its showing as grub rescue
[11:30] <Xaft> iptable, but yes, 12GB total, 3.7GB used, 8.2GB free, 105 buffers, 85 shared, 1359 cached
[11:30] <iptable> Xaft, in my case, 1GB used, 6.7GB free
[11:30] <iptable> Xaft, run top
[11:31] <iptable> Xaft, check which process uses most of your CPU
[11:31] <iptable> Xaft, run uptime, provide output
[11:31] <Aji_> hello?
[11:31] <iptable> Aji_, will you please relax
[11:31] <Xaft> iptable,  21:31:15 up  5:49,  2 users,  load average: 0.68, 0.75, 0.76
[11:31] <Aji_> please come on
[11:31] <goga> test
[11:31] <iptable> Aji_, not with that attitude.
[11:32] <Aji_> okay then i'll wait
[11:32] <iptable> Aji_, tell us everything you did to cause it to fail and WAIT A FEW MINUTES!
[11:32] <iptable> Xaft, so RAM is OK, load is OK, CPU ok... well only one thing left to do to fix it.
[11:33] <Aji_> actually i just tried to install another os through usb and after connecting it i can't boot
[11:33] <Xaft> iptable, and how do you suppose that :P Also, we never checked CPU, how do I do that sorry?
[11:33] <iptable> Xaft, go to a local IT shop. By a can of compressed air (air duster). Holding the can upwards (no tilt, do not shake before use), blow the laptop/PC dust out of every hole you can find.
[11:33] <Aji_> its shoing as welcome to grub
[11:33] <iptable> Xaft, your load average tells me CPU is ok
[11:33] <Aji_> and showing a message as grub rescue>
[11:33] <iptable> Aji_, if you disconnect it, can you boot?
[11:33] <Xaft> iptable, clean out my CPU every fortnight or so, perfect condition :)
[11:33] <Aji_> no i can't
[11:33] <iptable> Xaft, uhm, do you disconnect it while cleaning? also, how about the graphics card?
[11:33] <nikolam> every sudo command is saying: "no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864. leaking memory" 14.04 x85 64bit, upgraded from 13.10...
[11:34] <iptable> Xaft, I will guess it could be thermal compound dried out between the CPU and the radiator thingie that's on it. Either on CPU or GPU.
[11:34] <iptable> Xaft, looks like it anyways. I had that before.
[11:34] <Xaft> iptable, yeah fully disconnect it. So you think it's a heat issue?
[11:35] <iptable> Aji_, take out USB drive, turn off machien, turn on again. doesn't boot? you will need to boot from a livecd/usb to recover. recovery depends on what we find. first find a livecd/usb and boot from it.
[11:35] <goga> can anyone tell me where i can download usability distrib of ubuntu (am tired tune and fizx default distrib)?
[11:35] <iptable> Xaft, yes. if you disconnect it, THAT is your fault and problem. You should not do that!
[11:36] <iszak> Looks like my hard drive is failing, yay.
[11:36] <Xaft> iptable, oh I don't disconnect the CPU! That's never moved since the day it was placed
[11:36] <iptable> Xaft, the thermal compound that's on your CPU is the only thing that makes the temperature go from CPU to the radiator s otha the fan can remove it. If you disconnect that, compound dries due to air access.
[11:36] <iptable> Xaft, but thermal compound, apply to CPU, put heatsink (that's the radiator name!, heatsink) back on.
[11:37] <Xaft> iptable, sorry, bit of a misunderstanding :P Also, if it HAS dried out, wouldn't a temperature reading tell me?
[11:37] <Zebroid> Hi, can someone briefly elaborate on the benefits of entering a Linux server in an Active Directory domain? If any?
[11:37] <computer> Hi there all, say I've got a bit of a funny one here,
[11:37] <iptable> Xaft, apply the same procedure for graphics card if it's got removable heatsink
[11:37] <iptable> Xaft, my laptop didn't tell me :/ the sensor was in a place that was cooler than the place overheating, masked by airflow.
[11:37] <iptable> that's design fault, but it does happen
[11:37] <Xaft> iptable, graphics card is fairly new
[11:38] <Xaft> iptable, wow thats really bad design!
[11:38] <TheM4ch1n3> Zebroid: the windows users will share less viruses ;p
[11:38] <iptable> Xaft, so is my laptop, but it is the graphics card that is overheating
[11:38] <TheM4ch1n3> Zebroid: perhaps more ..
[11:38] <Xaft> iptable, I thought with CPUs though it was built into it
[11:38] <koki26> hola
[11:38] <iptable> Zebroid, free, fast, opensource, free apps for it, customizable, looks better, higher productivity, no viruses
[11:39] <iptable> Xaft, hah, *depends*
[11:39] <goga> iptable: ubuntu fast? lol
[11:39] <iptable> goga, uhm, yes?
[11:40] <iptable> goga, my ubuntu is fast, what's your point?
[11:40] <iptable> Xaft, but yeah, I would do this: 1. remtest, 2. reseat everything (CPU, PCI cards, RAM, etc), 3. take of heatsinks of GPU and CPU and apply thermal compound as/if needed.
[11:40] <goga> iptable: with 3Ghz CPu and *Gb RAM?
[11:40] <Zebroid> iptable: that seems like a list of reasons why to use linux instead of windows ;) I was more interested in the reasons why I would want my Linux server in the AD domain
[11:40] <goga> iptable: 8Gb
[11:40] <iptable> Xaft, once that is done, install temp sensors (lm-sensors) package and monitor temperature. if it's not rising AND the computer slows down, it's not HW. I would try HW first though, sounds like it.
[11:41] <iptable> Zebroid, for the same reasons
[11:41] <iptable> Zebroid, oh, why put it in AD at all? For LDAP authentication for user/password access
[11:41] <mexi_d3> Zebroid: That's case-dependent. I would need more information about your system to comment.
[11:41] <Tsunami2> Hi, everyone, what problem with my disk, how can i fix it? I want to install ubuntu?
[11:41] <Tsunami2> http://i.imgur.com/yerchx8.png
[11:41] <Tsunami2> http://i.imgur.com/F40adL8.png
[11:41] <Xaft> iptable, okay cheers for the help iptable :)
[11:41] <goga> can't feel any speed on default ubuntu config at 2 core amd 2Ghz CPU with 2Gb of ram
[11:41] <iptable> goga, I only got a coreI7 2.6GHz and 16GB RAM
[11:42] <iptable> goga, although, my CPU utilization is about 3% and my RAMM usage is below 1GB atm, max 2GB at worst
[11:42] <mexi_d3> goga: Unity needs a graphics card with 3d modern acceleration
[11:42] <mexi_d3> goga: The UI will be slow without that
[11:42] <mexi_d3> s/3d modern/modern 3d
[11:42] <computer> My friend uninstalled and purged pulse-audio and alsa from his brand new ubuntu 14.04 install so I have reinstalled them but everything that depended on them is still missing including the sound icon in the system bar and other things like the System Setting icon and most of the features in what is left of the System Settings panel
[11:42] <iptable> goga, and what mexi_d3 said :P if your GPU is slow/old, that's your problem. Then either upgrade or use another GUI, like mate (designed for slower machines). Works great with ubuntu as well!
[11:43] <mexi_d3> goga: The workaround is to use a different desktop instead of unity
[11:43] <Tsunami2> Help me :)
[11:43] <computer> So is there a list of packages to get it back to normal?
[11:43] <iptable> computer, reinstall I would say. you could try aptitude reinstall ubuntu-desktop - but not sure how much that will break.
[11:43] <Zebroid> iptable: yeah the LDAP authentication is the only benefit I can see as well. I was thinking perhaps there was some sort of group policy equivalent for linux that could be managed through AD. Think I got what I was after. Thanks
[11:44] <iptable> computer, not that we save, no. download ubuntu, do what your friend did, not which package purge removes, reinstall those. even though, some configs will still be lost.
[11:45] <iptable> Zebroid, there is, kind of. you can put in some poolicy management to linux from windows AD, but depends what you want to manage and how. there isn't much though.
[11:45] <computer> Hey iptable thanks! That is a great idea! Now why didn't I think of that!
[11:45] <iptable> computer, no probs
[11:46] <computer> I might just run it on my puter and not go through with it just to get the list
[11:46] <iptable> Xaft, no probs. if it's not HW, I'll speak to you soon ;)
[11:46] <iptable> computer, yes, that was my idea.
[11:46] <computer> Very simple and clever you are iptable!
[11:46] <iptable> computer, no need to actually confirm, just execute to see the list itself.
[11:46] <goga> iptable: ok, thanks. Am don't want tune myself ubuntu for my slow PC. Better i choose gentoo for that porposes. Is there are some iso for slow PC's with ubuntu already tuned?
[11:46] <computer> Yes that's what I was saying
[11:46] <iptable> goga, yes. Linux Mint Mate Edition
[11:47] <iptable> goga, it's ubuntu with Mate desktop env and a nicer looking software manager. uses all ubuntu repos and is ubuntu.
[11:47] <computer> Thanks again, sometimes it just takes some human interaction to figure things out I guess
[11:47] <iptable> I typically run Linux Mint Cinnamon on faster desktops and Mate edition on slower. It's ubuntu but gives me intgerface I enjoy.
[11:48] <iptable> goga, ^
[11:48] <iptable> computer, no probs
[11:49] <computer> :)
[11:49] <iptable> Tsunami2, why do you say something is wrong?
[11:49] <philinux> Ubuntu 14.04 - having trouble with mtink on epson printer. Anyone else seeing this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mtink/+bug/1328578
[11:50] <iptable> tried hoovering over the red (!) in the GUI tool to see what the errors mean?
[11:51] <Xaft> iptable, does 14.04 use lightdm or something else?
[11:51] <iptable> Xaft, lightdm
[11:51] <Xaft> thanks
[11:52] <flozano> 14.04 doesn’t start anymore - segfault in gnome-session after latest update
[11:52] <flozano> :(
[11:53] <Xaft> iptable, restarting lightdm worked :D
[11:58] <ThatGuy> iptable, says iptables v1.4.21: owner: Bad value for "--uid-owner"
[12:05] <goga> /dev/sda8       7,3G  7,1G     0 100% /
[12:05] <goga> How much space is enough for ubuntu? And does gparted can enlarge that disk safely?
[12:06] <iptable> ThatGuy, used UID? I.e. a number of a user that exists?
[12:06] <iptable> goga, yes, it can, altohugh DO backup data, you never konw
[12:06] <iptable> goga, my rootfs is 30GB for sake of it
[12:06] <iptable> goga, but depends on your use
[12:06] <ThatGuy> yeah done that but does not block internet :(
[12:07] <ThatGuy> iptable,  got sudo iptables -A OUTPUT -o eth0 -m owner --uid-owner 1004 -j DROP
[12:07] <iptable> ThatGuy, so if user with UID 1004 tried to access the internet, packets will get dropped
[12:07] <iptable> ThatGuy, try -I instead of -A
[12:07] <ThatGuy> iptable, still have connection tho tryed it
[12:07] <iptable> ThatGuy, try -I instead of -A
[12:08] <ThatGuy> iptable, i think thats done it
[12:09] <iptable> ThatGuy, yeah, you needed that rule on the TOP of your OUTPUT rules. there is probably an ALLOW rule somewhere and this one needed to be before it.
[12:09] <iptable> ThatGuy, iptables -L -vn to see all rules
[12:15] <ThatGuy> yeah got it working now
[12:15] <ThatGuy> cleared the iptables
[12:16] <ThatGuy> as i think it had somthing iI was messing around with
[12:16] <ThatGuy> :d
[12:16] <ThatGuy> iptable,
[12:17] <doki_pen> I'm trying to get nfs working between two boxes. I can mount and I can read files, but writing won't work. I've made sure the volume is mounted rw and exported rw, and I've even made the uid's match on both boxes but still no dice. I have no_root_squash enabled and root CAN write, but no other user can.
[12:17] <doki_pen> Any ideas?
[12:18] <tomodachi> is the volumen on some other filesystem?
[12:18] <tomodachi> doki_pen: like ntfs?
[12:18] <doki_pen> no, nfs
[12:18] <tomodachi> the local filesystem
[12:18] <tomodachi> of the box sharing it over nfs
[12:18] <doki_pen> one sec
[12:18] <ThatGuy> iptable, whats the best way to get it yo insert on start up
[12:19] <doki_pen> ext4
[12:19] <tomodachi> pastebin your exports file
[12:19] <iptable> ThatGuy, create a script in /etc/network/if-pre-up.d, let's say call it iptables.load (for the sake of it). Put your rules there. Save the file and make it executable (chmod 755 /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/iptables.load)
[12:20] <iptable> ThatGuy, that will load the rules, as it should, BEFORE the interfaces spin up
[12:20] <doki_pen> tomodachi: http://pastebin.com/c9KAghty
[12:20] <iptable> ThatGuy, of cos, don't provide just iptables -I ... in your rules, provide full path, so `which iptables` will tell you, and then do /sbin/ipables -I ... (or whereever your iptables is)
[12:20] <iptable> ThatGuy, that's to be sure
[12:21] <tomodachi> doki_pen: on the machine that mounted the nfs did you use mount -o users
[12:21] <doki_pen> tomodachi: no
[12:21] <tomodachi> doki_pen: try it
[12:21] <tomodachi> doki_pen: or append to your other options if you mount through fstab
[12:22] <ThatGuy> iptable, thanks for this
[12:22] <doki_pen> tomodachi: http://pastebin.com/k7nHt2BD
[12:22] <doki_pen> tomodachi: oh, just tried with users, still no dice
[12:23] <tomodachi> doki_pen:  paste mount |grep nfs
[12:23] <tomodachi> on the machine mounting the share
[12:27] <mband> Hi, what can I do to install Ubuntu 14.04 Desktop in an existing LVM partition (logical volume) - when I choose to do the installation/partitioning manually then it just shows the "raw" partitions and not any LVM related things?
[12:29] <mband> Or can I easily convert a server install into a Desktop install by installing one meta-package or something?
[12:29] <doki_pen> tomodachi: that's what that was
[12:29] <zergut_> cant adjust backlight brightness on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[12:30] <doki_pen> I left off the hostname in the paste
[12:30] <zergut_> even without function keys
[12:30] <doki_pen> http://pastebin.com/k7nHt2BD
[12:31] <zergut_> what is the problem could be?
[12:32] <wayang> hai
[12:35] <doki_pen> anyway to turn imapd logging on?
[12:36] <doki_pen> idmapd
[12:40] <rnz> Hi! Anybody  know why some many gtk application is slowdown drawing in 2D (without compiz or other composition managers) when run more X Window process (example chromium with 10> tabs)?
[12:41] <nekslag> Does someone has experience with 802.1X authentication? My Radius server is a windows 2012. mschapv2 is working but EAP refused the connection. Thanks for all your help.
[12:44] <philinux> Ubuntu 14.04 - having trouble with mtink on epson printer. Anyone else seeing this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mtink/+bug/1328578
[12:45] <ThatGuy> iptable, stoped working i got this on the list out
[12:45] <ThatGuy> Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[12:45] <ThatGuy> target     prot opt source               destination
[12:45] <ThatGuy> ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             46.166.186.209       owner UID match utorrent tcp dpt:socks
[12:45] <ThatGuy> DROP       all  --  anywhere             anywhere             owner UID match utorrent
[12:46] <iptable> ThatGuy, you using UID (i.e. user ID) as opposed to username, right?
[12:46] <iptable> ThatGuy, iptables -L -vn please
[12:46] <vladimir13> Hi, could someone give me advice about ethernet connection in xubuntu 14.04?
[12:46] <vladimir13> fresh install, eth0 visible, configurable to static IP (no www, no ping to router, but router registered that IP), dhcp fails, dhclient gives no output...
[12:47] <ThatGuy> iptable,
[12:47] <ThatGuy> pkts bytes target     prot opt in     out     source               destination
[12:47] <ThatGuy>    60  5754 ACCEPT     tcp  --  *      eth0    0.0.0.0/0            46.166.186.209       owner UID match 1004 tcp dpt:1080
[12:47] <ThatGuy>   124  9009 DROP       all  --  *      eth0    0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0            owner UID match 1004
[12:47] <iptable> vladimir13, cable?
[12:48] <iptable> ThatGuy, it's working. it blocked 124 packets and allowed 60 going to the destination IP and port tcp:1080
[12:48] <iptable> ThatGuy, note it only works for processes started as user utorrent
[12:48] <iptable> ThatGuy, what are you actually trying to achieve?
[12:49] <ThatGuy> iptable,  make it so when the socks5 proxy fails, then utorrent cant use ISP to download has to wait til socks5 works again
[12:49] <iptable> vladimir13, router firewall issue, router needs reboot or the cable is faulty.
[12:49] <iptable> ThatGuy, oh. trying to tunnel your torrents via socks proxy
[12:49] <iptable> ThatGuy, then just use socksify
[12:49] <vladimir13> 3 cables, 2 routers tested
[12:49] <iptable> ThatGuy, something like socksify utorrent - will start utorrent and pipe all output via a socks proxy.
[12:50] <iptable> vladimir13, are you sure it's meant to be eth0?
[12:50] <ThatGuy> it already got socks5 support
[12:50] <vladimir13> well... what else?
[12:50] <ThatGuy> but want to make sure it does not leak if anything happens
[12:50] <iptable> ThatGuy, socks proxy config needs to be done first in /etc/socksify.conf I think, but after that, you just use that. if socks proxy dies, socksify doesn't attempt to go direct
[12:51] <vladimir13> there is only loopback as the other option, eth0 did not sound suspicious to me..
[12:51] <iptable> ThatGuy, are you sure you started utorrernt as user with UID 1004 btw?
[12:51] <ThatGuy> iptable, yeah its on the same uid
[12:51] <iptable> vladimir13, cheeky answers ... well it could have been eth1, I can't see your machine, can I?
[12:51] <iptable> vladimir13, not since it's offline :D
[12:52] <iptable> ThatGuy, in that case the rules are defined and work.
[12:52] <ThatGuy> hmm wierd then
[12:52] <ThatGuy> running as utorrent as the users checked with ps aux
[12:52] <iptable> ThatGuy, we can see rules get hit in iptables -L -vn output
[12:52] <iptable> vladimir13, wrong IP/subnet/gateway configured then
[12:52] <iptable> vladimir13, or network card broken
[12:54] <doki_pen> tomodachi: I got it
[12:54] <iptable> vladimir13, or client machine got apparmor/selinux/iptables/nftables rules
[12:54] <vladimir13> first, i tested dhcp, that hangs and fails, dhclient eth0 from commandline outputs nothing, static IP was double checked and router saw activity.. im lost..
[12:54] <iptable> vladimir13, or client machine got apparmor/selinux/iptables/nftables rules - or network card is broken
[12:54] <iptable> vladimir13, test with another client if possible
[12:55] <iptable> vladimir13, if dhclient fails, then looks like broken connection (cable, router, client card, swtich, whatever)
[12:55] <iptable> vladimir13, or firewall
[12:56] <vladimir13> its integrated Intel... new system, new board... maybe DOA then..
[12:57] <aryklein> I wanna mount a filesystem after mysqld is started. I wanna mount /var/run/mysqld/ into /var/spool/postfix/var/run/mysqld but if I put it in the fstab there is a problem: the directory doesn't exist before start mysqld
[12:58] <aryklein> How can I do it?
[12:58] <ice9> how to install lib pthread-dev?
[12:59] <nekslag> aryklein: add the mount of the dir you want in to the script who starts mysql
[13:00] <aryklein> nekslag: yeap, but I would like to use upstart
[13:00] <wiiguy> hello, where can i download ubuntu 12.04.1  ?
[13:01] <vladimir13> thank for the advice..
[13:02] <aryklein> nekslag: and after an update, maybe it stops working
[13:03] <wiiguy> nm found it
[13:03]  * tcharlss_ regarde des captures d'écran de tmux et sens pointer un mal de crâne
[13:03] <Pici> !fr | tcharlss_
[13:04] <tcharlss_> sorry, wrong channel !
[13:04] <lamrz> histo, thank you for your help a few hours ago, I just restarted the computer to solve it quick :)
[13:05] <aryklein> I don't understand why Ubuntu doen't have all init script in upstart. For example apache, mysqld
[13:05] <aryklein> asteriks
[13:10] <tomodachi> doki_pen: i cant see you using the users option there
[13:11] <tomodachi> doki_pen:  does it work if you su to root and try to write a file to the share?
[13:12] <cumnor>  /save
[13:14] <streulma> what is best for ubuntu? ATI Radeon 8670 or NVidia GT720M
[13:19] <bcvery> streulma, typically I've found NVidia drivers to be better, but YMMV
[13:22] <lesshaste> I get loads of error messages like [613107.890167] type=1400 audit(1402488663.041:108): apparmor="DENIED" operation="exec" profile="/usr/bin/evince-thumbnailer//sanitized_helper" name="/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/web2c/mktexnam" pid=9841 comm="mktexpk" requested_mask="x" denied_mask="x" fsuid=1000 ouid=0
[13:22] <lesshaste> does anyone know how to fix the>
[13:22] <lesshaste> them?
[13:36] <GoodNode55> lesshaste: Alter the apparmor profile
[13:43] <Eggs_> streulma: ive found nvidias drivers much less hassle than ATI's,
[13:47] <lesshaste> GoodNode55, what should I change it to?
[13:50] <GoodNode55> lesshaste: No idea, suggest reading the apparmor documentation
[13:51] <Haaaaaaalp> hi guys. ijust turned on my computer and suddenly i can't log into my account. when i try to do it, it starts loading for about 20 seconds, then extremely shortly displays a message in terminal and takes me back to the login screen. how do i see what's written in the terminal after the login fail?
[13:52] <Eggs_> Haaaaaaaalp:  have you tried logging in through the terminal, ctrl + alt + F2?
[13:53] <Haaaaaaalp> yes, that's how i'm using the computer at the moment
[13:53] <GoodNode55> Haaaaaaalp: Tried the "dmesg" command?
[13:54] <Haaaaaaalp> nope
[13:54] <Haaaaaaalp> let me see
[13:56] <PuffTheMagic> are there any tools to aid in managing ubuntu workstations
[13:56] <PuffTheMagic> i have 4 machines that I need to have identical software setups on
[13:56] <PuffTheMagic> not sure what the best way to got about doing that is
[13:57] <Haaaaaaalp> GoodNode55: there's some stuff there, but i don't really know what it's about. lots of "hda-codec: out of range" and 'apparmor="DENIED" ' with some stuff following it
[13:58] <GoodNode55> PuffTheMagic: Canonical sell a commercial product called "Landscape", or there's also something called "Puppet" you might want to read up on
[13:59] <hateball> PuffTheMagic: Landscape, Chef, Puppet, Ansible
[14:00] <Haaaaaaalp> GoodNode55: here's the dmesg output http://paste.ubuntu.com/7628690/
[14:02] <GoodNode55> Haaaaaaalp: gnome-session giving a segfault looks the most likely culprit
[14:02] <Haaaaaaalp> mhm
[14:02] <Haaaaaaalp> is there a way to fix that?
[14:02] <GoodNode55> But unsure why that would happen just to you, unless you have a unique setup or something
[14:03] <Haaaaaaalp> i don't know. i didn't change much stuff. still using unity and most of default ubuntu programs
[14:03] <tass_> hey there :) I've got a issue with the digital audio input on 14.04. I can't get any signal from my tv. Its a Mac Mini 2009. Under OS X the input works just fine.is there anybody who could help me with this?
[14:07] <archonel> hello, can anyone tell me how do I "reload" changes made to /usr/include/linux/limits.h ?
[14:07] <archonel> Do i have to recompile the entire kernel ?
[14:08] <archonel> Anyone online ?
[14:09] <wiiguy> define anyone
[14:10] <lesshaste> wiiguy, really? That seems hard
[14:10] <lesshaste> archonel, it's a good question
[14:10] <Pici> archonel: why are you modifying that file?
[14:10] <archonel> We have an app in python that needs more files
[14:10] <lesshaste> archonel, more open files?
[14:11] <lesshaste> archonel, can you give some numbers?
[14:11] <archonel> and limit did not fix it so after googling it for 1 day i found that last option
[14:11] <archonel> #define NR_OPEN
[14:11] <GoodNode55> archonel: You can alter those limits without having to alter header files
[14:11] <archonel> at around 1k files python  give this error ([Errno 24] Too many open files)
[14:11] <lesshaste> archonel, if you start at http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-increase-the-maximum-number-of-open-files/
[14:12] <archonel> although i increased the limit and hard /soft limits
[14:12] <lesshaste> archonel, is that useful?
[14:12] <Pici> archonel: can you not do it with ulimit?
[14:12] <lesshaste> archonel, oh .. it might be a python limitation
[14:12] <archonel> i have increased all of them
[14:13] <GoodNode55> 1000 files is nothing though
[14:13] <archonel> and foud this post
[14:13] <archonel> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2569620/socket-accept-error-24-to-many-open-files
[14:13] <archonel> You are probably hitting the per-process file descriptor limit and you don't note how you have modified it. See /usr/include/linux/limits.h NR_OPEN
[14:13] <lesshaste> archonel,  ok so it should be easy to make a really sample piece of code that makes this problem reproducile
[14:13] <archonel> but I do not know how to I "reload" limits.h
[14:13] <lesshaste> archonel, have you done that?
[14:13] <GoodNode55> archonel: Do you even know what a .h file is?
[14:14] <archonel> isn t it smth like a C library ?
[14:14] <archonel> and you change and recompile
[14:14] <wiiguy> c++
[14:14] <archonel> yeah
[14:14] <archonel> i just started using ubuntu, used to use freebsd /.configure make  | make install
[14:14] <archonel> easy :)
[14:14] <lesshaste> archonel, ok so please make the smallest python code you can which causes the problem
[14:15] <lesshaste> archonel, then tell me when you have
[14:15] <lesshaste> archonel, that is just open 2000 files in python
[14:16] <archonel> I will have to ask our programmers about this i just do the networking part :)
[14:16] <diverdude> if i do a cp A/foo.bar B/foo.bar where A is a remote filesystem mounted via FDS and B is a local dir, what protocol is the data then actually being copied via? How is the copy actually done?
[14:16] <archonel> its more like an app that create sockets
[14:17] <archonel> i do not think a piece of code will reproduce it
[14:17] <lesshaste> archonel, oh
[14:17] <lesshaste> archonel, of course it will.. what do you mean?
[14:17] <lesshaste> archonel, a piece of code causes the error right?
[14:18] <lesshaste> archonel, you can write code that opens 2000 sockets
[14:18] <lesshaste> archonel, in about 1 line of python
[14:20] <mexi_d3> archonel: I am going to ask you why you have 1K files open?
[14:20] <archonel> lesshaste, sorry for the n00b-like  questions
[14:20] <mexi_d3> archonel: Generally this means your code should be refactored. What is your use case?
[14:21] <lesshaste> mexi_d3, the problem is that it's not his code
[14:21] <lesshaste> archonel, it's fine. The problem is that it's not your code. We need to speak to the coder :)
[14:21] <gain> hi all
[14:21] <archonel> self.client_reader, self.client_writer = yield from asyncio.open_connection(self.address[0], self.address[1], local_addr=source_address)
[14:22] <archonel> sry hard to explain to the programmer what I want
[14:22] <archonel> so that part works
[14:22] <archonel> they can open more than 1k connections
[14:22] <gain> I usually tweak my /etc/hosts but now with 14.04 I've just modified it but changes seems not to apply... anyonw knows why?
[14:22] <ikonia> gain: "not apply" ?
[14:22] <mexi_d3> archonel: What does this application do?
[14:23] <ikonia> gain: it's a text file what's to apply
[14:23] <archonel> dunno' exactly its a backend for an internal software, has to connect to several servers around the work
[14:23] <mexi_d3> archonel: You might want to move to #python (it will require a registered nick though)
[14:24] <archonel> mexi_d3, good point
[14:24] <archonel> i just thought once the python err was too many opened files
[14:24] <archonel> i though it is an OS issues
[14:24] <mexi_d3> archonel: Assuming you need the code fixed, of course ...
[14:25] <mexi_d3> archonel: Use 'ulimit' in Ubuntu to determine max file handles
[14:25] <archonel> you know how it is the programmers keep saying they code is good and its a Operating System issues
[14:25] <archonel> that is limit them
[14:25] <gain> ikonia: host mydomain => first ip && edit && host mydomain => first ip again... :(
[14:25] <archonel> limit is set to 9999999
[14:25] <archonel> did not help
[14:25] <ikonia> gain: host is a dns look up tool
[14:25] <ikonia> gain: /etc/hosts is not dns
[14:26] <mexi_d3> archonel: Well I don't believe that code is good. I can't really see any reason to keep so many files open.
[14:26] <allgoodAtTaoti> hi all, I'm playing with ansible and vagrant, I'm trying to run a playbook but am having issues with apt
[14:26] <allgoodAtTaoti> tldr, the mysql packages seem to be missing, https://gist.github.com/allgood2386/45ec29f3afa343870865
[14:26] <allgoodAtTaoti> is there a way to find out if there is an issue with the servers atm? I'd just like to confirm before I go troubleshotting my virutal box
[14:27] <gain> ikonia: well... on older ubuntu it worked, for what  I remember...
[14:27] <ikonia> gain: it's a dns lookup tool, /etc/hosts is not dns
[14:27] <gain> ikonia: well... on older ubuntu it worked, for what  I remember...
[14:28] <ikonia> gain: "from what I remember" it not a solid reason to set an expectation
[14:28] <ikonia> gain: read the man page and it should confirm it is a dns tool
[14:28] <gain> ikonia: well.. you're right...
[14:29] <gain> ikonia: ping is right... shame on me...
[14:29] <gain> thanks anyway for the patience... :P
[14:29] <ikonia> gain: ping uses libresolv - which is your overall system resolver,
[14:29] <ikonia> gain: where as dig/nslookup/host is a dns specific tool
[14:30] <mexi_d3> archonel: Are these disk files or network connections? I'm assuming you're meaning disk files but it might be legit if they are network connections.
[14:31] <gain> ikonia: thanks for the explanation... I'm less ignorant now... :P
[14:32] <archonel> mexi_d3, network connections
[14:33] <archonel> but i think each connections somehow "generate" files
[14:34] <mexi_d3> archonel: 1K network connections isn't crazy. opening 1k disk files at once would be.
[14:34] <archonel> mexi_d3, but it does not work for us, under 1k is ok, around 1k we get that error
[14:34] <aban1> aban1:
[14:34] <archonel> and limit, /etc/security/limits.conf, fs.file-max= everything is above 65k
[14:35] <archonel> increased net.core.somaxconn= as well
[14:35] <archonel> mexi_d3, the programmers said this part alone works well
[14:36] <archonel> self.client_reader, self.client_writer = yield from asyncio.open_connection(self.address[0], self.address[1], local_addr=source_address)
[14:37] <spaz> Hey guys... I've set my default term to be "roxterm --tab" so the CTRL+ALT+T shortcut would default to opening  a new tab if a window exists... but after a day or so (maybe a reboot) the setting drops the "--tab" part and won't work as expected. Any ideas!?
[14:37] <schwartau> hello. could someone please tell me whether 14.04 x86_64 supports nvidia optimus out of the box?
[14:37] <spaz> Sorry, this is a gnome setting i've set
[14:37] <spaz> schwartau: try the live disk, shouldn't take more than 20 minutes to get your answer
[14:38] <lesshaste> archonel, I hate you repeat myself but if you want to get it fixed as quickly as possible do this. Get the programmer to make the shortest possible piece of code that reproduces the error and paste it to SO
[14:38] <lesshaste> archonel,  if you want to get it fixed properly get the programmer to change what they are doing to open fewer files
[14:38] <lesshaste> s/you/to
[14:38] <archonel> lesshaste, thank you
[14:40] <schwartau> spaz: does the normaller install disc contain a live system?
[14:41] <spaz> schwartau: sure does!
[14:41] <schwartau> spaz: great. thanks
[14:41] <abin> i need support for ubuntu 12
[14:42] <abin> my ubuntu is not loading
[14:42] <abin> getting error message unknown filesystem
[14:42] <abin> unable to boot ubuntu
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> abin: is it Ubuntu 12.10 or 12.04 ?
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> abin: there is no 'Ubuntu 12'
[14:43] <abin> 12.04
[14:43] <abin> i am sorry it is 12.04
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> abin: have you booted to liveCD and ran an fsck ion your partitions?
[14:43] <abin> no.
[14:43] <tomodachi> hi i resized my partition and now my laptop drops to grub shell, how do i fix it_!  , im using efi-grub
[14:44] <abin> i have recently updated windows8 to windows 8.1 in other partition
[14:45] <GoodNode55> abin: It probably altered your MBR or partitions
[14:46] <abin> what i have to do inorder  to recover ubuntu
[14:46] <GoodNode55> abin: Might need to boot from a LiveCD and repair GRUB, if that's the issue
[14:46] <GoodNode55> abin: What's the exact error message you get?
[14:47] <abin> unknown filesystem, grub shell
[14:47] <abin> i don't have much knowledge about ubuntu
[14:47] <GoodNode55> abin: Yeah, sounds like the Windows upgrade altered the MBR
[14:47] <abin> Is that repairable?
[14:48] <GoodNode55> abin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[14:49] <abin> i am not having CD
[14:49] <abin> is there any alternate option?
[14:50] <GoodNode55> abin: A bootable USB stick
[14:50] <abin> Ok. it is fixable right?
[14:51] <ianward> Hello, I see debian jessie/sid have eglibc 2.19.1.  14.04 LTS has 2.19.0.  Does anyone know when 14.04 updates will have 2.19.1?  I can see on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty 2.19.1 is listed as a "packages with differences".
[14:51] <x86> ubuntu
[14:52] <x86> why the name is ubuntu? :)
[14:52] <GoodNode55> x86: It's the founder's favourite Cola brand
[14:56] <x86> what is difference between ubuntu and debian?
[14:56] <FinnTheMew> x86: The name "ubuntu" comes from the Swahili word for "unity of man"
[14:58] <x86> FinnTheMew : thanks for the response
[14:58] <topdownjimmy> x86: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28philosophy%29
[15:00] <x86> topdownjimmy: it's amazing :)
[15:00] <GoodNode55> x86: Debian focuses on stability/developers, and strong philosophy behind it. Ubuntu focuses on ease of use, and has a for-profit company steering the project instead of democracy/volunteers
[15:01] <levjamin> Isn't debian also more responsive and better running? I've considered making the switch.
[15:03] <x86> GoodNode55: so every distro have a purpose and philosophy?
[15:03] <GoodNode55> Depends what you're comparing. A default Ubuntu install contains different software to a default Debian one, such as the Unity interface. But if configured identically, performance between the two would be very similar
[15:04] <GoodNode55> x86: Not necessarily. But Debian has strong policies on code of conduct, ethics, and has its own subset of politics involved with running the distro
[15:04] <Pici> x86: Additionally, Ubuntu LTS releases re/36
[15:04] <GoodNode55> x86: Ubuntu has some of those things too. But Canonical always has the final say, instead of an elected group of people
[15:05] <Pici> x86: nevermind
[15:05] <Pici> x86: Additionally, Ubuntu LTS releases receive security updates only, no feature upgrades, which may be desired.
[15:05] <x86> Pici: thanks
[15:07] <x86> GoodNode55: is canonical company like a microsft?
[15:09] <Juriaan> X86: at the moment not ;)
[15:09] <snake> #italia
[15:19] <kingplusplus> please how do i secure phpmyadmin so it can't be accessed from an outside network?
[15:24] <GoodNode55> kingplusplus: You could use a htaccess file to restrict visitors from local addresses only
[15:26] <Pici> kingplusplus: I thought the default setup already did that.
[15:26] <kingplusplus> Pici, no, i tried but it
[15:27] <Pici> kingplusplus: Add something like this to your phpmyadmin apache conf: http://bpaste.net/show/1s6q6VyY6K1VtOOoAkMM/
[15:28] <GoodNode55> One of the main points of phpMyAdmin though is to administer your database remotely, I'd use a proper GUI application for database management if I was local
[15:30] <Guest94073> really new to all this. Sorry if this is wrong. But where can I ask for some Ubuntu help?
[15:31] <GoodNode55> Guest94073: Here, or the forums, or askubuntu.com
[15:31] <kingplusplus> Pici, /etc/apache2/apache2.conf i did check and and did not find <Directory /usr/share/phpmyadmin>
[15:31] <Pici> kingplusplus: thats because it is in /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf
[15:31] <cfhowlett> Guest94073 welcome.  ask your ubuntu questions.
[15:32] <kingplusplus> Pici, its a blank file so maybe it doesn't exist
[15:32] <Pici> kingplusplus: it may be in /etc/apache2/conf-enabled/
[15:32] <Guest94073> http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears
[15:33] <Guest94073> was recommend to me as a solution for missing sidebar
[15:33] <Guest94073> however,I ran the install command and got an error message
[15:34] <andlabs> Hi. How od I flush the DNS cache? I'm having a probably looking up just how to do this because I csan't connect to domain names :)
[15:34] <cfhowlett> Guest94073 ... and you're going to leave us in suspense?
[15:34] <kingplusplus> Pici, can i add it manually? Those files are empty
[15:34] <holstein> Guest94073: i would test as the guest user or a new user to remove my user config from the equation.. if things are "normal" with the guest account, i would reset unity
[15:34] <holstein> Guest94073: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[15:34] <Guest94073> unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-ger update out try with ,--fix
[15:34] <Pici> kingplusplus: Is phpmyadmin already working?
[15:34] <Guest94073> I don't know what to enter into the cli
[15:35] <kingplusplus> Pici, yes
[15:35] <holstein> Guest94073: you have package management errors as well then that should be addressed.. i would run "sudo apt-get update" in a terminal and share the output here..
[15:35] <holstein> !paste
[15:35] <andlabs> neve rmind
[15:36] <Guest94073> I am typing this on my phone as laptop not working
[15:36] <holstein> Guest94073: correct.. and thats ok that you dont know.. you will need to share more specific information with a volunteer here, and a more specific "fix" may be suggested
[15:36] <holstein> Guest94073: there are recovery kernel options to help boot your machine
[15:36] <bcc> i have no denyhosts or packages I can see.. but if I attack my server with http requests my local ip gets added to hosts.deny + iptables.. however cannot work out what the hell is adding it
[15:37] <LucidGuy> Fresh ubuntu server 12.04.4 install .. initial boot, monitor signal out of range???  Can't get to console either ctrl-alt-f1 etc..  wtf?
[15:38] <Guest94073> all the error messages say could not resolvegb.Ubuntu.com
[15:38] <holstein> LucidGuy: when i have seen those errors, i use another monitor, if i have one seting around.. do you?
[15:38] <holstein> Guest94073: those look like failing, non-official ubuntu sources
[15:38] <Guest94073> Sorrygb.archive.Ubuntu
[15:39] <holstein> Guest94073: ok.. are you connected to the internet? have you tried the guest account? have you tried recovery options?
[15:39] <LucidGuy> holstein, tried two dif monitors.
[15:40] <LucidGuy> They were both older ... not going to go find a newer model because of this.
[15:40] <Guest94073> how does one log in as a guest
[15:40] <holstein> LucidGuy: are you able to access the bios on the machine?
[15:41] <Pici> kingplusplus: Sorry, got distracted.  If phpmyadmin already is working, then apache has to know about it, the places where such config can live are /etc/apache2/conf-enabled/ and /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ and /etc/apache2/conf.d/ Also, there is an apache config in /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf that is symlinked from one of the former mentioned paths.
[15:41] <LucidGuy> holstein, yes
[15:41] <LucidGuy> should be
[15:42] <Guest94073> also looks like I'm not on the internet
[15:42] <holstein> LucidGuy: should be?.. try please.. if your graphics card cannont communicate with the monitor at the bios level, it will not likely with any OS
[15:42] <LucidGuy> holstein, ohh .. I can see the system post.
[15:42] <holstein> Guest94073: confirm, please.. that is a reason you would have issues accessing the archives
[15:43] <LucidGuy> Thats not the problem
[15:43] <LucidGuy> have to run .. Ill try a few other things.
[15:43] <holstein> LucidGuy: try vesa
[15:43] <holstein> LucidGuy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1270209
[15:43] <holstein> LucidGuy: you can put an xorg.conf forcing vesa in place easily..
[15:43] <Guest94073> I think in a misinformed attempt to mend ccdm
[15:43] <Guest94073> Can
[15:44] <kingplusplus> Pici,  [pid 32501] AH00671: The Alias directive in /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf at line 3 will probably never match because it overlaps an earlier Alias. (That is what i get when i tried to restart apache so i went into the file and added the allow and deny syntax but how to fix this symblink thing is a new issue)
[15:45] <Pici> kingplusplus: did you create a new symlink?
[15:45] <kingplusplus> Pici i am not sure about it but i have purged everything and started afresh but still having problems
[15:49] <Pici> kingplusplus: You don't know what you did?
[15:50] <kingplusplus> Pici, http://bpaste.net/show/wImaVMF6z6uDJ7OcteJh/ this is what i have in /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf  --- i think i have enabled it for the whole localhost ip ranges but still i get forbidden from my own ip
[15:52] <Pici> kingplusplus: What is the ip of your computer on your network?
[15:52] <kingplusplus> Pici,  192.168.1.13
[15:53] <Pici> kingplusplus: That should work.  Did you restart apache after making changes? What error are you getting?
[15:54] <Guest94073> Sorry again... I am definitely offline. with no sidebar what cli command do I need to restore connection?
[15:56] <kingplusplus> Pici, i restarted it and tried localhost/phpmyadmin this is what i get from the browser You don't have permission to access /phpmyadmin/ on this server.
[15:57] <Pici> kingplusplus: you need to connect to the actual name/ip of the server, localhost refers to your own computer.
[15:58] <kingplusplus> Pici thanks that worked like charm
[16:06] <spaz> Hey guys... I've set my default term via GNOME SETTINGS to be "roxterm --tab" so the CTRL+ALT+T shortcut would default to opening  a new tab if a window exists... but after a day or so (maybe a reboot) the setting drops the "--tab" part and won't work as expected. Any ideas!?
[16:10] <levjamin> A workaround would be just re-setting it but I can't offer any advice to fix the underlying problem
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> spaz: tried setting it in ~/.bashrc   maybe....
[16:25] <spaz> ActionParsnip: huh, yeah i might have to do something lame like that.... seems to kinda defeat the purpose of the gconf settings :P
[16:36] <kirankumar> i use ubuntustudio 14.04 i want desktop like as  a ubuntu 14.04
[16:37] <bazhang> install ubuntu-desktop package then kirankumar
[16:37] <kirankumar> i all ready installed sir
[16:38] <bazhang> kirankumar, so logout, then at login select it
[16:38] <kirankumar> i install one day ago then after so many time i reboot and start
[16:38] <Guest9965> hola
[16:39] <UserProd> i'm trying to upgrade my kernel, but it keeps getting stuck when Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-64-generic
[16:39] <kirankumar> bazhang: sir i check all steps boot option
[16:40] <UserProd> the error it gives is: cp: skipping file `/lib/libc.so.5', as it was replaced while being copied
[16:40] <UserProd> i tried rebooting incase there was some application holding a lock on the file, but it's still throwing the error
[16:41] <UserProd> any suggestions of what I can try?
[16:42] <kirankumar> bazhang: sir i installed by settings->synaptic
[16:42] <kirankumar> bazhang: please help me
[16:43] <amigamagic> hi, someone knows if in ubuntu 12 (with gnome-classic fallback interface) exists a launcher like Whisker Menu for xfce?
[16:44] <bazhang> kirankumar, you need to select when you login
[16:45] <kirankumar> bazhang: no option ouucres directly name and password ask me
[16:46] <kirankumar> ok i one time try
[16:46] <bazhang> kirankumar, there should be a drop down menu you can select from there
[16:50] <kirankumar> bazhang: thank sir it work properly
[16:52] <ardan_> I'm still here?
[16:52] <genii> ardan_: It seems so.
[16:53] <ardan_> Had to check where I was! #ubunutu!
[17:00] <amigamagic> no "WhiskerMenu"-like launchers for ubuntu?
[17:05] <Beldar> amigamagic,  specifically xfce right
[17:05] <Beldar> menu*
[17:05] <amigamagic> no, I would want something like that on a gnome-classic
[17:06] <fabrizziop> hey guys, I have 3 HDDs, I wonder if I can install ubuntu on one of them and use LVM on that disk only? that way I can encrypt it
[17:06] <amigamagic> I think that whisker menu is only for xfce
[17:06] <lnxslck> fabrizziop, yes
[17:06] <Beldar> amigamagic, I meant it is a xfce menu.
[17:06] <amigamagic> yes
[17:07] <fabrizziop> and will the 14.04 installer do it automatically or do I have to manually do that?
[17:07] <Beldar> amigamagic, Not sure, I suspect you will be the one to figure it out. ;)
[17:08] <Beldar> fabrizziop, 3 discs I would not auto install.
[17:08] <fabrizziop> uhh, ok, thanks
[17:08] <Beldar> err 3 hd
[17:09] <Beldar> fabrizziop, I never auto install though having multiple OS.
[17:09] <fabrizziop> I always manually set up /boot, / and swap, but I have zero LVM experience and ecryptfs is really slow
[17:10] <fabrizziop> it's probably best to read some guides
[17:10] <Beldar> fabrizziop, Do you really need encryption would be my question, this national security. ;)
[17:11] <Beldar> that broad of anyway
[17:11] <fabrizziop> nah, not that way lol
[17:12] <fabrizziop> but I use bitcoin and stuff like that, so encryption would protect a bit against random people :)
[17:13] <mario666> Hi, does anyone know which Mario game this is? http://guegan.de/mari0doc/img/backgrounds.gif
[17:14] <Beldar> mario666, and related to ubuntu support how?
[17:15] <amigamagic> mario666, it looks like Super Mario Bros, but the original nes version doesn't have that parallax, so maybe it's a remake
[17:16] <mario666> Exactly amigamagic, where did that parallax scrolling come from is what I'm looking for. Because it seems exactly like the first world, but I never seen those mountains before
[17:16] <ricks99> new ubuntu user needs help on install... I'm at the "Install alongside Windows" dialog, and I've allocated space. but the INSTALL NOW is not active.
[17:16] <ricks99> did i break it already? ;)
[17:17] <Beldar> ricks99, Open a terminal run sudo parted -l and pastbin the info
[17:18] <Beldar> !pastebin | ricks99
[17:18] <ricks99> Beldar: how to terminal? i'm a total ubuntu newbie.
[17:18] <ricks99> only button active on the screen is CANCEL
[17:18] <Beldar> ricks99, In the dash or try ctrl-alt-t
[17:19] <ricks99> how to get to dash? ctrl+alt+t did nothing
[17:20] <ricks99> shoudl say, i am attempting to install from booting from cd
[17:20] <Beldar> ricks99, IF the ubuntu desktop=unity the dash is accessed by clicking the top button from panel on left side of screen and typing terminal
[17:21] <Beldar> ricks99, Boot to desktop, I suspect you have the max partitions allowed as is.
[17:21] <ricks99> i have not button. boot to windows desktop, you mean?
[17:21] <ricks99> pc currently has win xp
[17:21] <ricks99> was hoping to keep it on pc, but add ubuntu to it
[17:22] <Beldar> ricks99, there's is an option to install or check memory or try ubuntu
[17:22] <Beldar> you want try ubuntu
[17:22] <ricks99> ah. i selected install
[17:23] <ricks99> will reboot and try again
[17:23] <Beldar> ricks99, Xp is probably not in danger of needing to be removed.
[17:24] <ricks99> y. wanted to make it dual bootable
[17:24] <Beldar> ricks99, would be rather unusual, but there are limitations on the amount of partitions in specific contexts, however we can deal with that if we know exactly what's there
[17:25] <Beldar> ricks99> y. wanted to make it dual bootable Should not be an issue, boot to the try
[17:27] <UserProd> anyone have an idea of why /lib/libc.so.5 is getting continuously replaced while being copied?
[17:29] <ricks99> Beldar: rebooted cd. selected TRY UBUNTU at menu.
[17:29] <ricks99> now waiting. :(
[17:30] <Beldar> ricks99, you see the desktop?
[17:30] <ricks99> not yet
[17:30] <ricks99> how long should it take?
[17:31] <aihuaedwardli> join openstack-meeting-3
[17:32] <Beldar> ricks99, it is a dvd or usb longer than an installs boot. If you get just a black screen than share that.
[17:33] <ricks99> instalilng from dvd. just see a plain black screen
[17:34] <Beldar> ricks99, Couple of options, a few questions first. How old is the computer do you know the chip and or speed and ram amount?
[17:35] <ricks99> very old intel celern 330. 512M memory
[17:35] <Beldar> ricks99, Next question would be did you confirm the download with a md5sum check?
[17:35] <sudormrf> Does anyone have any good tuts for setting up ZNC?
[17:36] <ricks99> Beldar: yes, used winmd5sum
[17:36] <Beldar> ricks99, A lighter version would be a good start here like lubuntu for that computer, basically the kernel type should work, and just less running it is lighter.
[17:37] <Beldar> excellent desktop though
[17:37] <ricks99> k. can you point to a download version?
[17:37] <Beldar> ricks99, sure hold on
[17:38] <Beldar> ricks99, http://lubuntu.net/  If you get the black screen again I will trigger the bot next for info on a nomodeset.
[17:38] <Beldar> !nomodeset | Rickmasta
[17:38] <Beldar> ricks99,  For you got nick wrong ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[17:39] <ricks99> got it.
[17:39] <ricks99> many thanks.
[17:39] <ricks99> off to burn another dvd :)
[17:39] <Beldar> ricks99, Cool, no problem. ;)
[17:40] <Bashing-om> ricks99: Also; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu <- great page for install and related info.
[17:46] <MuffinMedic> hey guys, how do i allow only certain ports based on subdomain?
[17:47] <Beldar> MuffinMedic, funny nick, reminds me of frank zappa and the muffinman. ;)
[17:47] <MuffinMedic> lol Beldar , totally unrelated, bu thanks
[17:47] <jhutchins> MuffinMedic: On what?
[17:48] <MuffinMedic> jhutchins: well i have domain.com on 80/443 and service.domain.com on port 1234
[17:48] <MuffinMedic> i want to set it so only traffic to domain.com is allowed through 80/443
[17:48] <MuffinMedic> and only traffic from service.domain.com is allowed through 1234
[17:49] <MuffinMedic> where domain.com and service.domain.com is my server, same machine for both
[17:50] <jhutchins> MuffinMedic: You can accomplish the first by telling the web server to respond to requests for domain.com, you really can't do the second unless you know the IP.
[17:50] <MuffinMedic> jhutchins: as in the IP of the computer connecting to the server?
[17:51] <jhutchins> MuffinMedic: Yes.
[17:51] <MuffinMedic> what about redirecting requests to a port based on subdomain, is that possible?
[17:51] <jhutchins> MuffinMedic: Actually, Allow/Deny does allow host/domain names.
[17:52] <MuffinMedic> oh
[17:53] <jhutchins> MuffinMedic: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/rewrite/remapping.html
[17:53] <jhutchins> MuffinMedic: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/howto/access.html
[17:54] <jhutchins> MuffinMedic: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_alias.html
[17:58] <kingbeowolf> how can i save my GPU bios ?
[17:59] <daftykins> kingbeowolf: i doubt there are Linux programs to do so, i'd bet if your card maker does provide tools, they'll be DOS programs
[17:59] <daftykins> what exactly, dare i ask, are you attempting to do?
[17:59] <kingbeowolf> GPU-Z allows you to save your GPU bios
[17:59] <kingbeowolf> in windows
[18:00] <daftykins> ok, so...
[18:00] <Yoghirt> does anyone use awesomewm?
[18:00] <kingbeowolf> Yoghirt, no
[18:01] <Yoghirt> dang i thought i can find someone to help me with the config
[18:01] <daftykins> well between you and me, there's more than kingbeowolf in here.
[18:03] <Beldar> 3min and gone
[18:04] <z1haze> how can i zip the contents of a directory recursively but not have the current folder in the archive?
[18:04] <z1haze> like i want to open the archive and see only the contents of the folder,
[18:04] <z1haze> i tried it but it created a top level folder inside the archive
[18:04] <daftykins> z1haze: man tar
[18:05] <z1haze> its gotta be zipped though
[18:05] <kirankumar> sir  i want use my harddisk data in virtualbox
[18:06] <z1haze> how can i do it
[18:06] <daftykins> man zip
[18:06] <z1haze> man zip -r ? that will leave out that top level directory?
[18:07] <daftykins> "man zip" .
[18:07] <z1haze> wtf is that?
[18:07] <daftykins> a command
[18:07] <z1haze> oh lool
[18:08] <z1haze> that helps me none
[18:08] <daftykins> did you not read the documentation?
[18:09] <z1haze> im reading it but i dont see how to not have that top level directory
[18:09] <HankMccoy> I am so close to getting UNetbootin to give ma a portable OS on a flash drive
[18:10] <daftykins> z1haze: tell you what, pastebin you in a terminal running "ls -al" followed by the command you're running and what it looks like.
[18:10] <daftykins> z1haze: paste.ubuntu.com of course
[18:10] <noosedoctor> are there plans for canonical to make their own kernel in the near future?
[18:11] <z1haze> hmm
[18:11] <daftykins> noosedoctor: this is not the place to ask
[18:11] <HankMccoy> I formated the drive fat32 ans mint is on there a friend told me to just download it not to bother with using an ISO file
[18:11] <noosedoctor> where is the place to ask?
[18:11] <daftykins> i don't know, but this channel is simply support by volunteers
[18:12] <daftykins> HankMccoy: do you have a question? also please note we do not assist with Mint in here.
[18:13] <noosedoctor> daftykins: being run by volunteers means nothing
[18:13] <HankMccoy> I went into the BIOS menu and told it to boot the USB I think but whe it asks me to run windows or debian ubuntu I just get an error saying windows failed to run when I try the debian option
[18:13] <daftykins> noosedoctor: to me it does because it suggests we're not mindreaders knowing what Canonical intend to do.
[18:13] <noosedoctor> this is an officially sanctioned channel byu canonical and has an official ubuntu irc team here
[18:13] <daftykins> lol does it now?
[18:14] <noosedoctor> volunteers created linux and irc
[18:14] <noosedoctor> who really cares if they're volunteers?
[18:14] <Pici> noosedoctor: What does 'make their own kernel' mean?
[18:14] <daftykins> noosedoctor: sigh, clearly you misunderstand. please stop ranting
[18:14] <noosedoctor> i just want canonical to create their own kernel so linux can finally disown this crappy distro
[18:14] <HankMccoy> well I used Ubuntu last time wanted to try something new If I try the portable ubuntu will you help me?
[18:14] <Pici> noosedoctor: Feel free not to use it if you don't like it.
[18:14] <HankMccoy> just want a linux OS on a flashdrive
[18:14] <daftykins> HankMccoy: i don't follow what you did and what you're trying to do
[18:15] <daftykins> HankMccoy: ok, and what OS are you in now - to make that flash drive with?
[18:15] <kirankumar> some one help me for virtual box
[18:15] <daftykins> kirankumar: they have their own channel
[18:16] <HankMccoy> windows 8 I formatted the drive Fat 32 like the tutorial said it wiped it
[18:16] <kirankumar> i try there no response
[18:16] <daftykins> kirankumar: then you need to wait, this is not virtualbox support.
[18:16] <HankMccoy> than am I supposed to download regular ubuntu or an ISO?
[18:16] <kirankumar> yes sir i know
[18:17] <daftykins> HankMccoy: ok, download the ISO of the Linux you want to try, then download Universal USB Installer from pendrivelinux.com - or YUMI, then you can use that program to put the ISO onto the flash drive.
[18:17] <kirankumar> but i  have important work
[18:17] <daftykins> kirankumar: we all do, but it doesn't mean that we're here to help you, this channel is for the OS.
[18:17] <kirankumar> ok sir
[18:18] <kirankumar> i try #vbox
[18:18] <HankMccoy> I currently have linux live usb creator and UNetbootin will those work?
[18:18] <daftykins> HankMccoy: whatever does the job
[18:20] <wigirc> Hi. Does apt-get --fix-broken install download recommended packages?
[18:23] <Beldar> HankMccoy, How big is the flash?
[18:23] <Beldar> in gigs
[18:25] <Beldar> wigirc, apt-get has some option, can you detail to the 'channel' the process at getting to this broken pckg situation and what they are
[18:26] <Beldar> wigirc, Or is this a technical question?
[18:26] <wigirc> Beldar, just a tech
[18:27] <dw1> any easy way to send reserved keystrokes to terminal, like Alt-E ?
[18:27] <Beldar> wigirc, depends on the breakage, and if apt-get is what you use, to broad a question really.
[18:28] <Beldar> !apt-getm | wigirc
[18:28] <Beldar> !apt-get | wigirc
[18:29] <muddle_> hanasaki: did you figure out the HDMI issue?
[18:30] <Beldar> HankMccoy, I ask the size of the flash as the iso load has limitations, a full install might be better for your uses if the flash has enough space.
[18:34] <wigirc> Beldar, i didn't find answer on this, but I think it will download recommends
[18:40] <Wanaoishi> Hi guysn
[18:40] <Wanaoishi> is there a way to go on PHP 5.5.13 on precise?
[18:42] <Beldar> Wanaoishi, If not the ubuntu repos look for a ppa or deb, if not in the precise repos not supported here technically, but does not mean no help can be had.
[18:43] <Wanaoishi> I found this php-fpm_5.5.13-1_amd64.deb
[18:43] <Wanaoishi> but not working
[18:43] <Wanaoishi> Beldar:  i didn't find any repo for it
[18:43] <genii> Wanaoishi: https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/php5
[18:43] <Wanaoishi> and 5.5.12 is broken with Symfony for Session
[18:44] <Wanaoishi> genii:  that's 5.5.12+dfsg-2+deb.sury.org~precise+1
[18:44] <Wanaoishi> I need to go to 5.5.13 or go back to 5.5.11
[18:44] <lugar> hi all
[18:45] <Beldar> Wanaoishi, You can go back and pin it, it is stil in the precise repos.
[18:45] <Beldar> if it*
[18:45] <Wanaoishi> How Beldar?
[18:45] <Wanaoishi> that would be a good solution for now
[18:46] <genii> Wanaoishi: I believe the same author also has packaged 5.6 for Precise
[18:47] <Beldar> Wanaoishi, HOw what?
[18:47] <genii> !pinning
[18:48] <Wanaoishi> thanks
[18:48] <Wanaoishi> genii:  I will also look if 5.6 solve the problem I have thanks
[18:53] <TTGG> Hi guys
[18:53] <daftykins> hi
[18:53] <TTGG> Where's the best place to go for advice about SMTP and sendmail stuff?
[18:53] <TTGG> There isn't a channel for that, is there?
[18:53] <daftykins> #ubuntu-server or #networking
[18:54] <TTGG> thanks dafty
[19:05] <unicornjedi> hey, Im trying to install CorePlus on my old laptop via CD. whenever CorePlus tries to boot I get a kernel panic error. "Kernel Panic - Not syncing"
[19:06] <daftykins> what is 'coreplus' ?
[19:06] <unicornjedi> its a very small OS that works on older computers.
[19:07] <daftykins> ok, and what made you think #ubuntu would support that?
[19:08] <unicornjedi> cuz I can't find tinycore channels
[19:08] <genii> unicornjedi: #tinycorelinux
[19:08] <unicornjedi> #tinycore and ##tinycore don't work
[19:08] <unicornjedi> thx
[19:08] <unicornjedi> :D
[19:08] <daftykins> unicornjedi: please don't do that in future.
[19:09] <unicornjedi> oh please
[19:09] <LucidGuy> grrr .. I'm using my own mirror (used apt-mirror) .. apt-get is complaining about signatures could not be verified because of the pubkey is not available .. anyone know how to get around this?
[19:11] <Jordan_U> !alis | unicornjedi
[19:12] <unicornjedi> Jordan_U, yea boi, im going to try it now! ^.^
[19:20] <unicornjedi> yea so there is no one on tinycorelinux
[19:20] <kostkon> unicornjedi, there's ##linux
[19:21] <unicornjedi> kostkon,  thank you
[19:22] <kostkon> unicornjedi, np
[19:23] <genii> unicornjedi: That was the channel listed as their official IRC, sorry to hear no help there. But as kostkon indicated, when no official channel exists then ##linux is the best catch-all one to try
[19:24] <unicornjedi> okay
[19:25] <unicornjedi> im using the '/msg alis list' command and now I finally get to use wildcards which I learned in class. yessssss
[19:33] <anexit> Why would I get this error;
[19:34] <anexit> ERROR: ld.so: object '/home/anexit/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so'
[19:36] <WilsonMathew> has anyone tried to install ubuntu on a toshiba satellite nb15t-a1302?
[19:38] <Beldar> WilsonMathew, Boot it and see if it runs, specific computer install I doubt you will find a quick answer here.
[19:38] <jadergabriel> hi
[19:39] <Jordan_U> WilsonMathew: Probably. Though you're probably not going to randomly catch any of those people by chance on IRC. Try just asking your actual question, and see if anyone can help.
[19:43] <WilsonMathew> thank you, well I have tried to install it and I couldn't disable the UEFI mode that It has
[19:43] <WilsonMathew> it gives me the option to disable it but it doesnt turn it off
[19:43] <anexit> Maybe a video driver issue,
[19:43] <Jordan_U> WilsonMathew: You don't need to disable UEFI (or secure boot) to install Ubuntu.
[19:44] <daftykins> WilsonMathew: perhaps it refers to legacy or CSM
[19:44] <WilsonMathew> I have tried without disableing it and I couldn't
[19:44] <daftykins> what happened?
[19:45] <Jordan_U> WilsonMathew: How did you try to install Ubuntu? What happened when you tried this?
[19:46] <WilsonMathew> well I run it from a usb and the booted it and It lets me into the grub and intastall but when it is all done it just says system not found
[19:46] <WilsonMathew> and gives me a black screen
[19:47] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | WilsonMathew
[19:47] <nthTime> How do I install Ubuntu 12.04 alongside Windows 7? The LiveUSB doesn't recognise the pre-existing installation of Windows 7. The advanced option doesn't display the partitions created via Windows. Installing fixparts doesn't work, as there are some dependencies that are unresolved.
[19:48] <daftykins> nthTime: is Windows installed in UEFI mode or legacy?
[19:48] <Jordan_U> nthTime: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l" and "sudo apt-get install gdisk".
[19:48] <nthTime> daftykins - Legacy I think
[19:49] <Jordan_U> nthTime: Note that you'll have to enable the universe repository to install gdisk, "sudo software-properties-gtk -e universe && sudo apt-get update".
[19:50] <bprompt> nthTime:     did you install 12.04 already? in its partition alongside windows yet?
[19:51] <Jordan_U> WilsonMathew: Your machine probably booted Ubuntu's installer via BIOS when what you want is for Ubuntu's installer to be booted via UEFI, as then it will properly configure your installation for UEFI booting.
[19:52] <skinux> I need to merge two linux partitions, but gparted won't give me the option.
[19:53] <nthTime> Jordan_U - http://paste.ubuntu.com/7630250/
[19:53] <WilsonMathew> JordaN_u this computer doesn't have a legacy mode option available it just pure UEFI
[19:53] <skinux> I thought all UEFI had legacy mode.
[19:55] <WilsonMathew> not this computer
[19:56] <skinux> What brand do you have?
[19:56] <WilsonMathew> toshiba satellite nb15t-1302
[19:56] <n1n0> hi. unitys not showing apps.
[19:56] <nthTime> bprompt - haven't installed. I had Ubuntu running nicely on this laptopt, but then Windows wouldn't install to a partition I created via GParted, because apparently it was a GPT type partition. So I wiped the drive, and installed windows 7, and created a partition using the disk configuration within Windows, but now... the Ubuntu LiveUSB doesn't recognise Windows 7 on the system.
[19:56] <skinux> I've a DELL Inspiron, supports legacy mode.
[19:57] <Beldar> n1n0, In the dash? fresh install, live, any info leading to this?
[19:57] <nthTime> Jordan_U - alright... now installed GDisk as well. What do I do now?
[19:58] <bprompt> nthTime:     you mean if you do the "disks > manual"   tool for partition management in the liveUSB it doesn't show that there's a partition of say ntfs or fat32?
[19:58] <WilsonMathew> Jorda_U, I can't not try the bootinfoscript because I am at work right now, but I will try it tonight at home. thank you and I will let you know what happens.
[19:58] <n1n0> Beldar it used to work. is not ubuntu live, but the only os on this terminal
[19:59] <Jordan_U> nthTime: http://www.rodsbooks.com/fixparts/ You just need to remove the stale GPT signatures.
[19:59] <wuschLOR> hi guys i just made a terrible misstake and crushed my grub while trying to install a second ubuntu to another hdd - and now i cant start the old version
[19:59] <Beldar> n1n0, So you do anything that may have caused this, used to work is not very much info is all.
[20:00] <Jordan_U> wuschLOR: Do you know what you did to "crush your grub"? How are you trying to boot the old installation? What happens when you try?
[20:00] <nthTime> bprompt - "Installation type" shows only 'Erase disk and install Ubuntu', and 'Something Else'. 'Something Else' only shows /dev/sda, and a single "Free space" volume of the entire size of the hard drive.
[20:00] <nthTime> Jordan_U - I attempted installing fixparts! It didn't install... some unresolve dependencies
[20:00] <Beldar> !bootinfo | wuschLOR
[20:01] <wuschLOR> kk
[20:01] <skinux> I read to merge partitions they have to be next to each other. How we we move them in gparted
[20:01] <Beldar> wuschLOR, Run it a pastebin all the output and give us the url
[20:01] <Beldar> a=and
[20:01] <n1n0> Beldar whats the other way to browse through apps beside unity?
[20:01] <Jordan_U> nthTime: You just said that you successfully installed gdisk. fixparts is part of the gdisk package.
[20:02] <nthTime> Jordan_U - Ah.. alright. Didn't know that. I'll give fixparts a go now.
[20:02] <Beldar> n1n0, unity is the name of the desktop, the dash would be your normal method, and this does not answer my questions
[20:03] <Beldar> or comments we want to help. ;)
[20:04] <n1n0> Beldar so it was my mistake, for I meant dash within which, the app lens isnt displaying, well, apps
[20:04] <Jordan_U> WilsonMathew: You're welcome. If you do try to install again, make sure that BIOS/CSM/legacy booting support is *disabled*. You want to ensure that Ubuntu's installer is booting via UEFI, so that it configures your installation properly.
[20:04] <Beldar> n1n0, Have you removed anything or changed the theme, helps to know these things. There is a reset for the desktop and compiz however, use the one for that release if you go that route.
[20:05] <Beldar> n1n0, Have you seen if a reboot fixes this?
[20:06] <n1n0> Beldar did not change the theme, reboot did not help. 13.10 version
[20:06] <Beldar> n1n0, No removal of stuff trying to make it lighter?
[20:06] <fufkv> I have just installed lubuntu in vmware , but the screen resolution is little is not full screen , i m not sure how to fix this , please help!!!
[20:07] <daftykins> fufkv: that's more down to vmware than it is ubuntu
[20:07] <Jordan_U> fufkv: Have you installed the vmware tools?
[20:07] <wuschLOR> Beldar ubottu hers the paste bin http://pastebin.com/1XmATHrN
[20:08] <Beldar> n1n0, might try this than reboot. http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/reset-unity-and-compiz-in-ubuntu-13-10/
[20:08] <n1n0> Beldar, am not following you exactly. there si enough space on this machine
[20:08] <nthTime> Jordan_U, daftykins, bprompt - yup. All working now. Thanks guys!
[20:08] <wuschLOR> on my ssd is (hopefully 12.04) and on the hhd is 14.04 what was the only option the grub gave me
[20:08] <daftykins> nthTime: what was the trick?
[20:08] <Beldar> n1n0, I meant lighter as in removing bloat a commonly used word.
[20:08] <Jordan_U> nthTime: You're welcome.
[20:09] <n1n0> Beladar, thx, will try
[20:09] <Jordan_U> wuschLOR: So it looks like you have one unencrypted installation, and another LUKS encrypted installation. Correct?
[20:09] <nthTime> daftykins - I think it was the installation of GDisk. Earlier, I'd attempted to install fixparts using the dpkg installer instead of apt-get. I guess GDisk comes with the dependencies etc.
[20:10] <daftykins> nthTime: oic
[20:10] <wuschLOR> yep my old installation is fully encrypted lvm
[20:11] <nthTime> daftykins - Don't know if that makes sense (I'm a GN00b.) But yeah, I think GDisk ought to be the recommended route.
[20:11] <Jordan_U> wuschLOR: OK, then let's add a grub menu entry for your old installation to your new installation's grub menu.
[20:12] <wuschLOR> Jordan_U that would be awesome
[20:15] <Jordan_U> wuschLOR: From your new installation, create the file /boot/grub/custom.cfg with the following contents: http://paste.fedoraproject.org/109074/2517629/raw/ . Then just reboot and select "Boot old encrypted Ubuntu". (You can of course change the menu entry title to be whatever you want instead).
[20:15] <n1n0> Beldar, often when executing some code, the terminal is 0% connecting to archive
[20:15] <Jordan_U> wuschLOR: You will probably have to hold shift to see the grub menu at boot.
[20:16] <n1n0> Is there alternative u dash?
[20:16] <n1n0> ...to
[20:20] <bgardner> n1n0: Perhaps synapse would suit you.
[20:20] <stasiomod> unity? No
[20:20] <stasiomod> Not that I knw of
[20:20] <stasiomod> but... the forks of ubuntu do not
[20:22] <stasiomod> well, unless you mean the launcher itself. You can add one, but not a complete alternative on ubuntu
[20:22] <stasiomod> unless you use the forks
[20:22] <stasiomod> (xubuntu, ebuntu, gbuntu, etc..)
[20:26] <jhutchins> stasiomod: Those aren't forks, they're just ubuntu with different default desktops.
[20:26] <stasiomod> Which, is a fork
[20:27] <jhutchins> stasiomod: No.  You can install all of the different desktops on any of them.
[20:27] <jhutchins> stasiomod: They're still mainstream ubuntu.
[20:27] <stasiomod> Sorta, i guess.....
[20:27] <jhutchins> stasiomod: If you paint something a different color it's not a new product.
[20:27] <stasiomod> true, but it is changing it
[20:27] <stasiomod> by adding to it
[20:27] <stasiomod> which is the point...
[20:27] <skinux> How do I get to partiions next to eachother so I can merge them using GParted??
[20:27] <stasiomod> of a fork
[20:27] <wuschLOR> Jordan_U it worked nice
[20:28] <jhutchins> stasiomod: No, they are all contained within ubuntu.
[20:28] <stasiomod> skinux: GParted Live
[20:28] <stasiomod> skinux: drag + drop
[20:28] <skinux> If you mean GParted using Live CD, already tried
[20:28] <wuschLOR> put me to my old grub and there i could start up
[20:28] <jhutchins> stasiomod: Tob be clear, there are forks or derivatives out there like mint.
[20:29] <stasiomod> FINE, its a dev branch...
[20:29] <jhutchins> stasiomod: It's just a different desktop.  Ctrl-Alt-F1 and everything will be exactly the same.
[20:30] <stasiomod> OH...
[20:30] <wuschLOR> thx a lot
[20:30] <stasiomod> linux mint is Alt-F*
[20:30] <wuschLOR> saved my day :)
[20:30] <skinux> I used Ubuntu 14.04 Live and it didn't have any drag and drop.
[20:30] <stasiomod> Pandora crashed
[20:31] <daftykins> stasiomod: no, Alt+Fx is when you're not already in a graphical environment i believe, it's not different between distros
[20:32] <stasiomod> Linux mint is Alt-F*. It drops you to command prmpt
[20:32] <Jordan_U> stasiomod: Please stick to productive Ubuntu support discussion.
[20:32] <stasiomod>  ok
[20:32] <daftykins> stasiomod: that's lovely.
[20:32] <stasiomod> :(
[20:33] <daftykins> in fact if you only run Mint, it would be best if you don't try and assist here.
[20:34] <stasiomod> No
[20:34] <stasiomod> I switched back
[20:35] <stasiomod> I am very unstable when it comes to OS
[20:35] <stasiomod> choosing
[20:35] <stasiomod> ...
[20:35] <stasiomod> il shut up
[20:35] <Beldar> stasiomod, lay off the enter please
[20:35] <daftykins> stasiomod: you can join #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to chat
[20:35] <AndreasR> greetings
[20:40] <AndreasR> someone able to help me fix a strange IPv6 problem? I am resolving to my own IP address whenever I try to resolve a host that has no AAAA records
[20:40] <agliodbs> ubuntu is reporting 1.4GB ram out of 4GB in use, even when the total resident size of all running applications is only about 400MB total
[20:41] <AndreasR> kinda breaks lots of stuff - I am on 12.04.04 LTS
[20:41] <agliodbs> what appears to be happeing is that my ubuntu 12.10 desktop basically never releases memory, until I restart the machine
[20:41] <agliodbs> ideas?
[20:43] <AndreasR> agliodbs: I am not sure but I think this is intended/default behaviour - last time I investigated it was using all the unused RAM for disk caching
[20:43] <optopopit> Howdy, I have ndiswrapper providing drivers for an unsupported USB WiFi adapter, ndiswrapper shows the driver installed and the device present but networking does not show the device as available, an ideas?
[20:43] <agliodbs> AndreasR: no, I'm talking pinned RAM, not cachhing
[20:44] <AndreasR> agliodbs: then sorry - no clue
[20:44] <agliodbs> yeah, nobody seems to have one.  and when people on AskUbuntu ask abotu this, their questions get removed as "off topic".  Seems like someone is trying to hide something
[20:44] <Jordan_U> agliodbs: If the kernel were never releasing memory you'd fill up your 4GiB pretty quickly.
[20:46] <stasiomod> are you on a bleeding-edge piece of software?
[20:46] <Jordan_U> agliodbs: Ubuntu 12.10 is EOL, you need to upgrade if you want a secure system (or any support).
[20:47] <Jordan_U> !eol | agliodbs
[20:47] <agliodbs> Jordan: I ran into some HW support issues when I upgraded to 13.10, haven't had time to tackle it again
[20:48] <Jordan_U> agliodbs: We can help you try to upgrade, but that's the limit of the support we offer here for EOL releases.
[20:49] <agliodbs> Jordan_U: wow, I'm not allowed to ask questions about other versions on this channel?  I thought this was freenode ...
[20:49] <jasunto> anyway to use ssh to login the ubuntu desktop from the gui part so the desktop sharing turns on?
[20:50] <Armadillos> jasunto: You can use a product called NoMachine that will let you do that.
[20:50] <Jordan_U> agliodbs: This channel only supports supported releases. There are other channels on Freenode that you can try, like ##linux where there may (or may not) be people willing to help you with unsupported software.
[20:51] <agliodbs> Jordan_U: there's no ubuntu-discuss?
[20:51] <jasunto> Armadillos: i need in now and only have ssh
[20:51] <jasunto> Armadillos: need to enable auto login for my user and reboot and let it login or log it in graphically from ssh somehow
[20:52] <agliodbs> suddenly Ubuntu feels very unfriendly.  Maybe I should give Fedora a try.
[20:53] <Jordan_U> agliodbs: There is an #ubuntu-discuss, but it's explicitly not for user support.
[20:53] <jasunto> Armadillos: can i remotely install agent via SSH?
[20:54] <dine909> does anyone know the command to run from terminal to get the 'Session Preferences' utility running?
[20:54] <dine909> as seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup there
[20:55] <Armadillos> jasunto: Yes you should.  It's designed to start up once you log in, but you can start it up via SSH as well by running: sudo /usr/NX/bin/nxserver --start
[20:56] <kostkon> dine909, it's now called Startup Programs, the screenshots are from an older version of ubuntu. Anyway, try with: gnome-session-properties
[20:56] <dine909> kostkon, spot on thanks
[20:58] <dine909> please have some fake internet points for that.
[20:58] <kostkon> !cookie | kostkon
[21:00] <optopopit> Using 14.04, ndiswrapper for drivers because my USB WiFi adapter is unsupported in the kernel,  ndiswrapper shows the driver installed and the device present, networking says no network device available, any ideas?
[21:04] <dine909> sudo apt-get install unclutter
[21:04] <dine909> *sorry wrong window
[21:05] <synti> anyone know JSON?
[21:05] <dine909> yeah he's a cool guy
[21:05] <dine909> what is up syntl?
[21:05] <synti> :P
[21:06] <rdearman> quit
[21:06] <tomxthexprox> just had to reinstall grub
[21:11] <kostoulhs> hi
[21:14] <unicornjedi> kostoulhs, hi
[21:25] <sydney> Hulo :P
[21:30] <streulma> hello, just want to know if there is a solution on HP computers for RT3290 wireless and bluetooth. Bluetooth isn't detected.
[21:30] <streulma> I will know for Ubuntu 14.04.
[21:31] <Megabyte> Hi guys
[21:31] <Megabyte> is there a command to list all ppas added to a system?
[21:32] <Megabyte> something like ppa -l?
[21:32] <dine909> i've disabled everything with ccsm in order to get a 'kiosk' mode happening - which has worked out well .. but now the power button on my machine will not shut it down
[21:33] <dine909> which is a good thing in a sense - but i'd like to re-enable it - has anyone any ideas?
[21:35] <genii> Megabyte: Unfortunately, nothing so simple. You may want to look at the scripts on this page however: http://askubuntu.com/questions/148932/how-can-i-get-a-list-of-all-repositories-and-ppas-from-the-command-line
[21:35] <Megabyte> genii, thanks, genii
[21:36] <genii> Megabyte: You're welcome
[21:39] <dine909> nm got it
[21:41] <JimmyNeutron> Could someone explain what this kernel panic mean? drm_kms_helper: panic occurred, switching back to text console
[21:42] <JimmyNeutron> I'm running 14.04 LTS, and after switching over to kerenl 27 and 29, I get this error, but with the original kernel, 24, it works fine.
[21:47] <Bucky21659> Hi, I'm having an issue with pulseaudio, when trying to run in terminal it returns this: E: [pulseaudio] core-util.c: Failed to create secure directory (/run/user/1000/pulse): Permission denied
[21:47] <Bucky21659> Running as root returns a similar error but refering to the home folder.
[21:49] <muddle_> which pulseaudio utility are you trying to run
[21:49] <Bucky21659> Just standard pulseaudio.
[21:50] <muddle_> let me see what happens here
[21:50] <muddle_> mine says "Daemon already running"
[21:51] <Bucky21659> Yeah, since pulseaudio's running I suppose.
[21:51] <Bucky21659> For me the Daemon isn't running and I don't know why.
[21:51] <Bucky21659> Weird what the command returns too..
[21:51] <muddle_> yeah that's odd
[21:52] <muddle_> maybe reinstall pulseaudio or something
[21:52] <bodgix> hey guys. has anyone come up with a workaround for the Xserver freeze in 14.04? I saw it was a quite common bug.
[21:52] <muddle_> seems like it doesn't have the permissions to run
[21:53] <Bucky21659> Okay that's weird, when I tried to build-dep pulseaudio it said I must put some software sources in sources.list.  Just did apt-get update
[21:53] <Bucky21659> Yeah it's still not doing it, same error. O_o
[21:55] <joop> hey, anyone on who can help a beginner on installing 14.04?
[21:55] <trism> Bucky21659: software-properties-gtk , check the Source Code box and then run apt-get update again
[21:55] <joop> it crashes:
[21:56] <Bucky21659> joop, where does it crash?
[21:56] <Bucky21659> after installation, or during?
[21:56] <Bucky21659> trism, Will try that, one minute.
[21:56] <muddle_> try running live first
[21:56] <joop> saving installed packeges, while reinstalling
[21:57] <joop> source ID was not found when tempting to remove it
[21:57] <muddle__> joop: were you connected during the upgrade?
[21:57] <Bucky21659> Alright I think I'm getting somewhere, just used pacmd and killed the daemon
[21:58] <brainproxy> seem to be running into problems installing stuff following the disappearance of dpkg-dev_1.17.5ubuntu5.2_all.deb
[21:58] <brainproxy> should i expect that problem to go away as dependent packages bump to 5.3 version or....?
[21:58] <joop> usr/lib/ubiquity/frontedfrontend/gtk_components/nmwidgets.py:131 Warning: source ID was not found when tempting to remove it
[21:58] <brainproxy> seems lik 5.2 was nuked because of security issue
[21:59] <joop> Glib.source_remove(self.rows_changed_id)
[21:59] <joop> i was connected
[22:00] <muddle__> i don't keep much on my drive. so usually i just start with a new dvd, but upgrade to 14.04 went without problems
[22:01] <traxol> hi is there a tutorial/guide on how to install django (at best with a simple hello world running) on 14.04?
[22:01] <Bucky21659> Another question inrelated to my previous issue: how do you set the $DISPLAY environment variable for X11 through terminal?
[22:01] <muddle__> you could always start with the dvd, i guess
[22:01] <Bucky21659> or tty*
[22:01] <joop> yeah, i had some issues, it was crashing a few times so i thought a reinstall might fix it..
[22:01] <muddle__> or try to restart the distro upgrade from apt-get (a guess)
[22:02] <joop> so best start by making a new DVD?
[22:02] <muddle__> i usually do, but...
[22:02] <muddle__> i just tried it this time, and it worked
[22:02] <muddle__> but new DVD should definitely work from my experience
[22:03] <joop> >bucky21659: any thoughts?
[22:03] <muddle__> like you i've had bad luck with distro upgrades, but i was only one release back from 14.04
[22:04] <muddle__> this time, i mean
[22:04] <muddle__> you might check the manpage for apt-get
[22:04] <muddle__> i'm pretty sure i remember distro upgrade specific switches there
[22:05] <muddle__> let me look
[22:05] <Bucky21659> joop, are you able to boot into a live environment?  when you reinstalled did you delete your partition or tell it to install over it?
[22:05] <Bucky21659> Again it'd be helpful if someone told me how to set $DISPLAY thru terminal :P
[22:07] <muddle__> apt-get has a switch called dist-upgrade but i haven't used it before
[22:07] <joop> i booted into the environment of the boot dvd, then started the install proces, after choosing the type of installation (next to or over the old OS) it crashed.alling with the old documents kept,
[22:08] <muddle__> what release are you trying to upgrade from? is it the one just before, or several?
[22:09] <joop> i chose to reinstall maintaining my documents n all. It is at the moment still in the installation environment that, while it is crashed and obviously wont go further, does allow me to connect with the ubuntu irc community...
[22:09] <muddle__> you might just want to backup the documents, etc. then start fresh without maintaining old
[22:09] <Bucky21659> muddle__, apt-get's manpage says dist-upgrade "intelligently handles the upgrading of outdated packages"
[22:09] <joop> i recently upgraded to 14.04, but it seemed buggy, crasshing now and then, i thought it best to reinstall.
[22:10] <Bucky21659> I do'nt know what exactly that means but for the record it's NOT what you run to upgrade distros
[22:10] <muddle__> thanks bucky
[22:10] <joop> but i did use the same dvd i allready made...
[22:11] <muddle__> i don't know joop. sounds like tough one to unravel.
[22:12] <daftykins> joop: are you sure your system is stable?
[22:12] <daftykins> run memtest.
[22:13] <joop> #muddle__  ok, i was hoping the warning notification on the source id would ring someones bell
[22:13] <daftykins> post a screenshot if you have something
[22:13] <daftykins> !paste
[22:14] <joop> daftykins: it should be, it was before installing 14.04
[22:14] <daftykins> things change, doesn't take anything but time to test
[22:14] <Bucky21659> muddle__, No problem, I recall that did do something different that helped me out of a jam a while back but I can't recall..
[22:16] <joop> ok thanks, ima make me a new dvd, see if that improves
[22:16] <daftykins> joop: just run the disc verifier
[22:16] <daftykins> no need to waste one
[22:17] <unicornjedi> Jordan_U, I notcie you frequent the IRC. why is that
[22:17] <joop> ehm, i will ehm duckduckgo go that...  disc-verifier... :)
[22:18] <muddle__> *coughs* :)
[22:19] <daftykins> joop: it's an option on the menu
[22:20] <Bashing-om> joop: When you boot the liveDVD -< soon as bios screen clears hit a key -> language screen, escape key to accept the default, -> boot menu. -> "check disk for defects".
[22:20] <joop> ah thanks!
[22:21] <Primes23> What does this mean? "E: Unable to locate package gettext" (from apt-get)
[22:21] <joop> so after bios screen clears hit any key?
[22:21] <daftykins> Primes23: what version of ubuntu?
[22:22] <Bashing-om> joop: So the instrctions say, I always hit the shift key, myself.
[22:22] <Bucky21659> I'll ask just this last time, does anyone know how to set X11's $DISPLAY environment variable../
[22:22] <Bucky21659> ?
[22:22] <joop> ok thanks ! ima try that, good luck you all
[22:22] <Primes23> 14.04 LTS (I am new to Ubuntu)
[22:23] <daftykins> Primes23: installed or the live environment? you need to run "sudo apt-get update" first
[22:23] <littledude> Hi, does anyone know if apt allows to remove packets that have been installed as dependencies, but that are not needed anymore after the install ? (gcc, cpp, fakeroot, etc)
[22:23] <daftykins> littledude: sudo apt-get autoremove
[22:23] <muddle__> autoremove
[22:23] <daftykins> littledude: for more, read the man page. that's what it's for! :)
[22:24] <diverdude> Anybody knows a cheaper online backup service than dropbox?
[22:24] <littledude> thanks :) That was quick.
[22:25] <Primes23> daftykins: Thanks, that seems to be working.
[22:27] <Carlinhos> i remove catalyst from
[22:27] <Carlinhos> my system but it says link group x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf is broken now
[22:28] <Carlinhos> Setting up libgl1-mesa-glx:amd64 (10.3~git1406110730.0d8944~gd~t) ...
[22:28] <Carlinhos> update-alternatives: warning: forcing reinstallation of alternative /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/mesa/ld.so.conf because link group x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf is broken
[22:28] <Carlinhos> any idea how to fix this?
[22:29] <sunco50> Can anyone help me? I can't get Java to work in Chrome and I can't figure out why.
[22:30] <blurkis> is it a common problem that choosing encrypted home and swap on a fresh installation results in error mounting encrypted swap on bot?
[22:30] <blurkis> boot
[22:30] <daftykins> sunco50: pretty sure it's a known breakage, due to Google changing the plugin system. use it with Firefox if you need it
[22:31] <Kolibir> Hello people
[22:32] <daftykins> hi
[22:32] <Kolibir> My current Pc's hard drive is failing, so i would like to back up my os to an image file
[22:32] <daftykins> give clonezilla a look
[22:32] <Kolibir> but remastersys is gone :(
[22:33] <sunco50> daftykins: Okay thank you for the insight. Is that related to this answer I found on the web? "NPAPI was dropped for Linux in 35 because of Aura. IcedTea and Oracle both use NPAPI, so it won't work until they are upgraded to the new system (don't expect that any time soon)"
[22:33] <vilambit> Kolibir: dd if=/dev/yourdrive of=image.iso
[22:33] <daftykins> sunco50: yes, exactly that, NPAPI
[22:34] <sunco50> daftykins: What a headache. Well, at lease its everyone and not just me. It's definitly still working in firefox so I guess I will just have to use that more often. Thanks again!
[22:35] <daftykins> sunco50: no problem :)
[22:35] <Jordan_U> vilambit: Kolibir: 1: Always be very careful when using dd or any dd-alike, a simple typo could result in catastrophy. 2: For a drive that's failing, GNU ddrescue is a better choice than dd.
[22:36] <daftykins> and clonezilla is potentially better than both, as mentioned
[22:37] <dmr> can someone tell me the name of the program that mini.iso uses to connect to a wireless network?
[22:37] <dmr> or point me to a repo of mini.iso so i can dig through it?
[22:38] <Kolibir> i'm very new to ubuntu so i don't know anything :/
[22:38] <daftykins> name? probably wpa-supplicant
[22:38] <daftykins> Kolibir: ok look up and download the bootable ISO clonezilla then
[22:38] <dmr> i don't mean the 'driver'
[22:38] <Kolibir> ok
[22:39] <daftykins> it isn't a driver.
[22:39] <dmr> daftykins: hence the scare quotes
[22:39] <dmr> i mean the thing that generates the menu that probably calls wpa supplicant
[22:40] <delac> upgraded to 14.04 from 13.10. previous version was using gdm. reconfigured with dpkg-reconfigure lightdm to use lightdm. still fails to start lightdm with following error in dmsg - init:lightdm main process terminated with status 1. any thoughts?
[22:41] <dmr> daftykins: if you don't know, i can probably figure it out if you can tell me the repo that canonical generates mini.iso images from
[22:41] <Kolibir> how can i filter these leave and connect msgs from irssi?
[22:41] <daftykins> dmr: sorry, don't know anything about the image generating either
[22:42] <dmr> very well
[22:44] <dmr> can someone tell me the name of the program that mini.iso uses to connect to a wireless network? the thing that makes the console gui, i mean
[22:46] <wheatthin> Ummm  lol
[22:46] <wheatthin> You mean iwconfig?
[22:46] <muddle__> google keywords: ubuntu mini iso repository
[22:46] <wuschLOR> hi there another question about grub - i have a two HDD sytem with an old ubuntu version and i tried to isntall a new one on the second hdd - with a the help of Jordan_U i was able to boot the old one once again - is there a way to divide those two on the seperate hdd so i can remove the one with the new system so they boot seperatly?
[22:47] <daftykins> you could've installed disconnecting the other so they don't know about each other
[22:47] <wheatthin> wuschLOR, you can disconnect the working drive, and install grub using a livedvd
[22:47] <dmr> wheatthin: i don't think so
[22:47] <dmr> muddle__: yeah, i tried that, and variations
[22:48] <dmr> wheatthin: have you ever, say, installed onto a laptop with mini.iso?
[22:48] <someone235> hey, the Sound Menu appears in the items list of "indicator plugin", but it is not appeared on the top panel. Someone knows why?
[22:48] <wheatthin> nope..
[22:48] <dmr> ok nm
[22:48] <wuschLOR> boot the 12.04 - diconnect the 14.04 HDD and isntall grub again ?
[22:49] <wheatthin> yup
[22:49] <genii> dmr: Probably ubiquity
[22:50] <dmr> genii: isn't ubiquity the livecd installer?
[22:50] <dmr> i'm talking about in the context of mini.iso
[22:50] <dmr> maybe this isn't the right channel
[22:50] <wuschLOR> wheatthin just wit sudo apt-get or via something else?
[22:50] <wheatthin> if 12.04 doesn't boot, cause of grub obviously, then use a livedvd and chroot into the 12.04 install and then update-grub/or apt-get install grub
[22:51] <genii> Oh, the mini
[22:51] <dmr> genii: have you ever installed to a laptop with mini.iso?
[22:51] <wheatthin> can use the 14.04 and chroot too now that I'm thinking about it wuschLOR
[22:51] <Kolibir> what do i do with this clonezilla iso file ;D
[22:52] <wuschLOR> booting both works but wehen i remove the the 14.04 it gifs me an error and puts mie in grub recovery - and im to dumb for that
[22:52] <Carlinhos> will reinstalling ubuntu without formating home folder overwrite my user configs with new ones or use the old ones when available?
[22:52] <wheatthin> just gotta open the terminal, then cd to the root of the 12.04 and chroot
[22:52] <genii> dmr: I don't usually use the mini.iso, I usually go with full or if not possible sometimes debootstrap
[22:52] <wheatthin> then run update-grub
[22:54] <dmr> genii: ok, but do you know what i'm talking about? the program that launches some console menu to do the wifi connection so you can dl the system?
[22:54] <dmr> it's a curses-y menu, like menuconfig or something like that
[22:55] <dmr> i used to know the library that they used for those menus, but i've forgotten
[22:55] <genii> dmr: Yes, I think it might be debian-installer
[22:55] <wheatthin> dmr, are you talking about tasksel?
[22:55] <dmr> not tasksel
[22:55] <wheatthin> k.
[22:56] <wheatthin> just a question.
[22:56] <dmr> it's ok
[22:56] <luisja1006> Could someone help me with fstab? I am trying to auto mount an ntfs partition, but it always gives an error on startup
[22:56] <dmr> genii: debian-installer is the right general area
[22:56] <dmr> i think
[22:57] <tonks> hello people, i'm just a newbie on ubuntu, is there a way of getting asio4all installed, and used as a primary driver on audio producing programs?
[22:58] <wuschLOR> wheatthin hmm didnt realy work just droped me to the same place error: no such decice ; entering resuce mode --- grub rescue>
[22:58] <luisja1006> Could someone help me with fstab? I am trying to auto mount an ntfs partition, but it always gives an error on startup
[22:59] <dmr> luisja1006: can you manually mount the partition?
[22:59] <Bashing-om> wuschLOR: My method to install grub -> sudo mnt /dev/sdb1 /mnt , sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sdb , sudo umount /mnt .. Assumes the 2nd hard disk (sdb) and as well root is in the 1st partition. Be sure where you are installing grub !
[22:59] <Monocubo>  HexChat: 2.9.6 ** OS: Linux 3.13.0-29-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Debian jessie/sid ** CPU: 8 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU         860  @ 2.80GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1,20GHz ** RAM: Physical: 7,8GB, 55,2% free ** Disk: Total: 1,9TB, 6,9% free ** VGA: NVIDIA Corporation GT200 [GeForce GTX 260] ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel MID ** Ethernet: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. CIe Gigabit Ethernet ** Uptime: 7h 19m 39s **
[23:00] <Bashing-om> wuschLOR: ^^ from the liveDVD .
[23:00] <luisja1006> dmr how?
[23:00] <dmr> with mount
[23:00] <wuschLOR> wait im trying to get the bootscript
[23:01] <dmr> last time i checked, fstab is basically a config file for mount
[23:01] <The0x539> http://puu.sh/9pvl6.png I get this after wubi finishes downloading kubuntu
[23:01] <The0x539> windows 8.1.1, uefi
[23:01] <dmr> so the first step is to mount it by hand
[23:03] <luisja1006> dmr what is the command for that?
[23:03] <dmr> luisja1006: mount
[23:03] <dmr> e.g. 'mount -t ntfs dev /path/to/somewhere'
[23:03] <The0x539> http://pastebin.com/XuFAvUHD is what's in the mentioned log fi;e
[23:04] <genii> dmr: Looks like the component of debian-installer is main-menu
[23:04] <dmr> genii: thanks, i'll look into it
[23:04] <dmr> The0x539: i can't look at your posts because i haven't enabled x on this new install
[23:05] <The0x539> dmr: ?
[23:05] <dmr> The0x539: but fwiw, i had to disable uefi to boot the new system
[23:05] <The0x539> but
[23:05] <The0x539> how do you disable uefi
[23:05] <dmr> in the bios
[23:05] <The0x539> I thought uefi was something that replaced bios, not went on top of it
[23:05] <bog_> i have an sata controller card that can be handled by the ahci driver, but isn't recognized automatically. here: http://theangryangel.co.uk/blog/marvell-88se9172-sata3-under-linux-as-of-320/ is a command that fixes it. any pointers on how to make that persistent? using module-init-tools or something?
[23:06] <dmr> The0x539: i'm not 100% sure of the terminology. maybe 'efi' was the thing you disable, and uefi is the new bios
[23:06] <Kolibir> exit
[23:06] <dmr> i'm not sure
[23:06] <wuschLOR1> Bashing-om wheatthin  http://pastebin.com/3gyLxvtd
[23:06] <dmr> anyhow, when i entered my new bios, it had two booting systems
[23:06] <dmr> efi and legacy
[23:06] <dmr> or maybe uefi and legacy. i'm just going to say efi now
[23:07] <Bashing-om> wuschLOR1: look'n at /3gyLxvtd.
[23:07] <dmr> i had already installed with mini.iso, so i knew i should have a working system, but it wouldn't boot
[23:07] <dmr> but when i switched from efi to legacy and swiched the startup defaults from windows 8 to 'other os', it booted fine
[23:09] <dmr> i dunno if it's relevant, but i thought i'd mention it
[23:09] <TeraJL> does KDE substantially affects speed/performance in relation to unity?
[23:09] <luisja1006> dmr done, mounted manually sda9 into /media/data
[23:09] <wuschLOR> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/1XmATHrN this is the bootscript from 14.04
[23:09] <wuschLOR> if it s relevant
[23:10] <Bashing-om> wuschLOR1: "/dev/sdb1               2,048   471,834,623   471,832,576  83 Linux" the command as given will work to install grub, however, the sdb1 partiton is not marked "bootable" but, may not matter. We will see.
[23:10] <dmr> luisja1006: sda9 is the ntfs drive?
[23:10] <luisja1006> dmr correct
[23:11] <dmr> odd, but then i've never mounted an ntfs drive before
[23:11] <daftykins> dmr: peraps the mini doesn't boot EFI
[23:11] <daftykins> *perhaps
[23:12] <dmr> daftykins: more like, mini writes something that efi doesn't understand, whatever the hell efi is
[23:12] <Deihmos> ubuntu worked fine with efi. didn't even have to disable secure boot
[23:12] <Bashing-om> wuschLOR1: When you install grub from the liveDVD .. use release 14.04 to install to sdb .
[23:12] <luisja1006> dmr so you can't help me auto-mounting the ntfs during startup?
[23:13] <dmr> luisja1006: what command did you run to mount the ntfs volume?
[23:13] <luisja1006>  sudo mount -t ntfs -o ro,umask=0222 /dev/sda9 /media/data
[23:13] <luisja1006> dmr
[23:13] <dmr> also, does 'ls /media/data' return what you expect?
[23:13] <wuschLOR> ok so boot with the livedvd and 12.04 hdd - then ty to encrypt it  then the moutning + isntalling rigth ?
[23:14] <wuschLOR> the 14.04 needs no rescue - i just isntall it new
[23:14] <dmr> Deihmos: yeah, i'd have thought so, b/c i know the installer mentioned putting in something like grub-efi, but it didn't work
[23:14] <dmr> anyway, i don't really care if it boots the old-fashioned way
[23:15] <Beldar> TeraJL, They only share some extra apps on the same install, only one runs at a time, should be no speed difference technically
[23:15] <luisja1006> Could someone help me with fstab? I am trying to auto mount an ntfs partition, but it always gives an error on startup (press s to skip)
[23:16] <dmr> luisja1006: does 'ls /media/data' return what you expect?
[23:16] <Bashing-om> wuschLOR: I KNOW nothing about encryption >> you are on your own there.
[23:16] <Beldar> luisja1006, pastebin your fstab
[23:16] <wuschLOR> ive done it once ;) i tink i can do it again ^^ (fingers crossed)
[23:17] <Beldar> luisja1006, Give the channel some info so anyone that can help will. ;)
[23:17] <Bashing-om> luisja1006: Maybe help : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1983336 , http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604251 <- HOWTO: Mount NTFS partitions with specific ownership/permissions.
[23:18] <luisja1006> beldar http://pastebin.com/qYpnETTd
[23:18] <luisja1006> yeah, sorry for not providing pastebin earlier
[23:18] <TeraJL> Beldar: i've already installed i3wm on my ubuntu 12.04, with no problems and could switch between the two, and removed i3wm later on with not even a problem, could the same be said to 14.04 and KDE so i can try KDE?
[23:19] <luisja1006> beldar blkid returns: http://pastebin.com/jX8dRP0C
[23:19] <Beldar> luisja1006, Do you want just the partition mounted?
[23:19] <luisja1006> beldar it's a "data" partition to share files between windows 8 and ubuntu
[23:19] <luisja1006> yeah
[23:20] <Beldar> luisja1006, Here is mine no uuid use just /dev/sda6  /dev/sda3 /mnt/Windows   ntfs-3g   defaults   0   0
[23:21] <Beldar> mine is a shred as well
[23:21] <Beldar> shared*
[23:22] <Bashing-om> wuschLOR: " No boot loader is installed in the MBR of /dev/sdb." so, you are installing grub to 'sdb' that is the 14.04 install, so use the 14.04 liveDVD to install grub onto 'sdb' .. ok ?
[23:22] <Beldar> luisja1006, I'm assuming a urfi with gpt would be the same
[23:23] <Beldar> uefi
[23:23] <luisja1006> uefi gpt yeah
[23:23] <luisja1006> secure boot
[23:24] <ridethespiral> How can I stop 12.04 from auto adjusting my laptop's screen brightness? I've already disabled it in the power/display settings menu
[23:25] <ridethespiral> I had it disabled before but did a clean install again after trying to upgrade to 14.04 and failing lol
[23:27] <FmRUF> still can not get amazon video to work in chrome works fine in firefox but  not chrome 12.04
[23:27] <wuschLOR> Bashing-om: wait what ? i have no interest about the 14.04 working i want my 12.04 working again
[23:27]  * The0x539 eyes FmRUF
[23:28] <FmRUF> The0x539: ?
[23:28] <The0x539> FmRUF: !
[23:29] <Bashing-om> wuschLOR: Per the boot-repair script, grub is installed for sda (12.04 ??), have you set the boot priority in bios to boot the 1st hard drive as 1st boot priority ?
[23:29] <ee99ee_> How can I change the output of "hostname --fqdn"?
[23:29] <luisja1006> beldar this is what I typed on fstab: /dev/sda9 /media/data   ntfs-3g   defaults   0   0
[23:29] <luisja1006> it's auto mounting on startup, thanks for the help
[23:29] <Beldar> FmRUF, Can you say that more clearly, sounds as if you comparing two OS's but can't really tell.
[23:29] <ee99ee_> I thought it was controlled by the /etc/hosts file alias, but it doesn't seem to be
[23:29] <Beldar> luisja1006, And?
[23:30] <Beldar> luisja1006, worsks cool
[23:30] <wuschLOR> yep priority is usb hdd0 hdd1 (i removed the unwanted hdd) and then it thows ma aginst the grub rescue
[23:30] <Bashing-om> wuschLOR: As it is your stated desire that you want to boot the OSs seperatly, then grub must be insytalled to each hard drive.
[23:30] <FmRUF> Beldar: in 12.04  amazon prime video works in firefox browser but can not get it to work in chrome browser I have done hal and I know that I have the right flash because it works in the firefox browser thank you
[23:31] <Beldar> FmRUF, chrome has it's own flash
[23:31] <wuschLOR> Bashing-om: yes thats what i want put my pimary need ist to get my 12.04 running again
[23:32] <FmRUF> Beldar: ok sorry to ask than I will find the documentation on that thank you
[23:32] <wuschLOR> thats what im trying to tell 14.04 can wait its a fresh isntallation nothing of value is there
[23:33] <wuschLOR> bit my orignal 12.04 ist the important one with lots of data
[23:33] <Bashing-om> wuschLOR: OK. square one, what results when boot orsewr os set to boot the 1st hard drive and you attempt to boot the operating system ??
[23:33] <Bashing-om> order is set
[23:34] <ridethespiral> How can I stop 12.04 from auto adjusting my laptop's screen brightness? I've already disabled it in the power/display settings menu
[23:35] <wuschLOR> ok setup one i boot with HDD0 (HDD1 is disconected ) => error so such deviece c58f2 ..... ; entering rescuemode grub rescue>
[23:37] <Bashing-om> wuschLOR: I do not know your biuos, but is not HDD! same same as 'sda', and is not 'sda' the drive you want to boot ( 12.04 ) ???????
[23:37] <Bashing-om> bios
[23:37] <Pindare> Hello
[23:37] <wuschLOR> setup two HDD0 and HDD1 connected booting to HDD0 -> grub
[23:37] <wuschLOR> same setup boot hdd1 -> _
[23:38] <wuschLOR> oh sorry i missunderstood
[23:38] <wuschLOR> HDD0 = 12.04
[23:38] <Pindare> please where can I find channel about calibre and .epub please?
[23:38] <wuschLOR> HDD1 = 14.04
[23:38] <pavlos> ee99ee_, man hostname  ... you can use hostname to change the name, effective after reboot
[23:39] <ee99ee_> that doesn't set hostname -f
[23:39] <ee99ee_> that just sets hostname
[23:41] <Bashing-om> wuschLOR: Let's try this to boot HDD0 (12.04) at that grub prompt commands: linux (hd0,msdos1)/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro , initrd (hd0,msdos1)/initrd.img , boot ....see if you boot !
[23:43] <Beldar> wuschLOR: get supergrub and boot the sucker and fix from desktop. http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[23:43] <Beldar> if that don;t boot your broke
[23:46] <Pindare> Please, a channel about .epub and open software calibre?
[23:47] <wuschLOR> ok tried the commands - gave me an error
[23:47] <wuschLOR> ok superrgrubdisk