[01:26] Hi, xubuntu is more than just a diff desktop env. right === phunyguy_ is now known as phunyguy === not_phunyguy is now known as phunyguy [03:25] how to auto run this command at startup or login xrandr --output LVDS1 --set "scaling mode" Full [03:25] uofm49426, PLEASE stop crossposting and check out the answer you got in #ubuntu [04:33] hello [04:33] I am new to Xubuntu [04:33] Need help [04:34] trying to reset usb with usbreset.c [04:34] but keep getting error in ioctl: is a directory [09:54] after installing xubuntu 14.04 as update form 13.10, it takes one minute After Alt+F2, before window opens. [09:55] or it never opens. Also it takes very long time to logoff [09:56] I also have trouble seeing network manager [09:57] oh it is there when I enable indicators plugin [09:57] but then I have double clock, volume, etc [10:08] also seems that indicator plugin is over and over unexpectedlz leaving panel e.g. mazbe crashing === nikolam_ is now known as nikolam === lderan_ is now known as lderan [12:29] I did a 'apt-get install compiz' just now to get my hands on compizconfig manager.. that was a mistake.. the manager is a separate app.. my question is: is compizconfig manager even working in XCFE? I just found out about 'settings editor' which was there all along.. [12:32] kostex: did you install compizconfig-settings-manager? [12:32] after that yes [12:33] and is it working for you? [12:33] could someone give me advice about ethernet connection in xubuntu 14.04? [12:33] no.. I was trying to find a way to disable ALT RIGHT MOUSE functionality.. but in compizconfig did nothing.. 'settings editor' did! [12:34] strange [12:35] I know I can remove the settings manager.. but what about the compiz package itself.. does xcfe have that installed by default also? [12:35] fresh install, eth0 visible, configurable to static IP (no www, no ping to router, but router registered that IP), dhcp fails, dhclient gives no output... [12:35] kostex: no, compiz is not shipped by default [12:36] so I could purge it without hurting my system? [12:36] (ubuntu studio) [12:36] sure, but you might need to revert any changes related to compiz [12:37] I guess there are none ;-) [12:37] ok then [12:37] here goes nothing! [12:43] vladimir13: sounds like a general ubuntu problem, try to ask in #ubuntu [12:45] thanks [12:47] the compiz package has left the building!.. and everything seems to be stable.. thanx for giving me the confidence brainwash [12:48] kostex: you're welcome :) [13:33] hello [13:34] I have (power managment) problem with my fresh installed xubuntu, can anyone help me? [13:48] /join #cyanogenmod [14:09] oh nice, suspend is broken because why not [14:20] hi [14:45] hi [14:45] please let me know the tool for usb stick formatting [14:47] gparted [14:47] !info gparted [14:47] gparted (source: gparted): GNOME partition editor. In component main, is optional. Version 0.18.0-1 (trusty), package size 527 kB, installed size 1880 kB [14:48] i know the gparted but i want a easier tool [14:51] i don't know of one === phunyguy is now known as not_phunyguy === not_phunyguy is now known as phunyguy [14:54] !info palimpsest [14:54] Package palimpsest does not exist in trusty [15:21] I am switching back to a simpler distro after having had one that i compile everything from scratch and was thinking about xubuntu. My main question is does xubuntu have the same adware that ubuntu has or has it all been striped out? [15:23] adware? [15:23] I havent seen any in the few months I used Xubuntu [15:25] Kekai: the main distro that xubuntu is based on has amazon search adds and sends all the info you type in to the HUD to places other than your desktop. That is what i am referring to [15:25] xubuntu does not have that [15:25] oh thats not in Xubuntu [15:26] Will xubuntu be following the switch to mir in years to come along with ubuntu? [15:27] unless someone ports every component to mir and also maintains them, no [15:27] however, running on top of xmir is possible [15:28] brainwash: no I would rather x11 or wayland so i'm glad there not going to follow :D [15:28] Ty guys! you have been very helpful [15:47] What is the default file system for xubuntu? [15:47] rawrmonster: ext4? [15:47] ahh ok [15:48] ou ok, that was an easy one :) [15:50] I am using ext4 as my home partition on my gentoo machine as well so no arguments there :D [15:51] I am just getting really sick of compiling everything on a computer that i use every day. If it was a server i would probably still use gentoo for size and speed but on my desktop machine I want something easy. So i think my laptop gentoo days are over [15:53] Yeah Xubuntu us nice [15:53] 8is [15:53] I run 14.04 LTS on my Netbook from 5 years ago flawlessly [15:56] Well i mean i have never had an issue with gentoo ether besides maybe for missing something in the kernel [15:56] but thats more my fault than the OS [15:57] Ok ill be back finally got xubuntu 14.04 installed on a flash drive. Time to install :D [15:57] okay [16:05] Hi ! I need some help trying to boot Windows 7 after installing Xubuntu 14.04. I've ran boot-repair without success. This is the info on my system as reported by boot-repair: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7629244/ [16:05] draches for help with win7, see ##windows [16:24] I really kinda like it :D [16:25] ofc, xubuntu is awesome :D [16:25] Nice simple layout, hell it even does some of the things i had a really hard time to work in gentoo [16:26] I could never get scanning to work ever but it works out of the box in xubuntu [16:27] mhm [16:27] Come to the dark side my child, we have simplicity === WLM|zzzzz is now known as WLM === WLM is now known as BelgischeLeeuw === BelgischeLeeuw is now known as WLM [16:30] Kekai, idk with simplicity comes complexity of configuration. [16:35] debian variants use libav rather than FFmpeg correct? [16:37] rawrmonster ffmpeg has been deprecated in ubuntu. avconv (libav) is the suggested replacement. [16:38] Was there ever a reason stated for using avconv over FFmpeg not the ffmpeg made by libav [16:40] <_genuser_> great, the iso image doesn't boot on my laptop. has anything seen the issue where the installation media just boots up and then screen goes blank. and then nothing. [16:42] _genuser_, what kind of graphics card do you have? [16:45] _genuser_, lspci | grep VGA [16:46] _genuser_, Do you see grub? does it crash at I would guess xubuntu uses lightdm-greeter [16:47] _genuser_, you can also hit alt+f1 to see console while the cd is booting and maybe see whats going on that way [16:49] If it makes it past grub but just not to lightdm-greeter you can alt+ctrl+f1 and boot in the tty1 console [16:49] ehh w/e you not even going to respond [17:00] <_genuser_> rawrmonster: sorry, was tinkeing with it. didn't see this. [17:00] <_genuser_> rawrmonster: basically it would go past grub, show the startup screen with the spinning circle and then blank out. [17:01] <_genuser_> only key that worked was power key, which shut it down. changing terminals didn't work. [17:01] _genuser_, what happens when you alt+ctrl+f1? [17:01] <_genuser_> no response. but I was able to find my ISOs with prevoius versions. :) and boot with a different ver. [17:02] <_genuser_> now, I'm just wrestling with apt-cache to find ffmpeg. :) [17:02] _genuser_, libavtools [17:03] _genuser_, debian based distros use libav rather than ffmpeg even though libav does have a ffmpeg program. [17:03] <_genuser_> heh, thanks. I just google that bit. :) [17:04] <_genuser_> who would have thought changing video format could be as complicated as it is. but it makes you appreciate the hard work that goes into creating tons of formats and their editors/codecs. [17:04] _genuser_, What are you converting to? [17:05] I have made a script to put video files in to .vob for being burned to dvds if that is what you are doing i can give it to you [17:06] <_genuser_> wtv -> dvr.ms. then was using handbrake to convert to x264/AAC. However, the editing can ONLY be done on the dvr-ms which uses dvredit which only cuts on keyframes. needless to say lot of extra spaces goes in. [17:06] <_genuser_> trying to use ffmpeg to move to mpeg, then edit it using some usable editor, and then encode to x264/AAC [17:07] Well my program converts to mpeg2 compatible format [17:07] with the ntsc rather than pal [17:08] <_genuser_> the dvr-ms supposedly has a MPEG2 stream. So I just copy it out. ffmpeg -f mpeg2video (which doesn't always work). [17:08] <_genuser_> ffmpeg was crashing on it. so I thought I'd move to linux and try it instead of my ffmpeg on windows. [17:08] <_genuser_> I think vob is a mpeg2 stream, isn't it? [17:08] Yea vob is mpeg2 [17:09] <_genuser_> are you converting TV recordings? Or do you otherwise have a video file that you edit before final conversion? [17:10] I have the video files already on my pc that i wish to convert to dvd player compatible formats and convert [17:12] <_genuser_> I see. I'm trying to determine a good editor for editing out commercials. etc. Avidemux the leading recommendation has not been able to edit wtv/dvr-ms/mpeg files so far. [17:13] _genuser_, give me two seconds. I have used a program before but i forget the name. let me look it up [17:14] _genuser_, openshot [17:15] <_genuser_> heh, another one to try! thanks. now if i can just extract the mpeg, I"ll try openshot. [17:15] <_genuser_> avconv so far errors out extracting the mpeg from the dvr-ms. [17:16] _genuser_, buffer underflows and overflows @ some hex space? [17:18] <_genuser_> [mpeg @ xxxx] Application provided invalid, non monitonically increasing dts to muxer in stream 1: 3489348934 >= 4898blah [17:18] <_genuser_> av_interleaved_write_frame(): Invalid argument [17:20] _genuser_, how are you trying to convert it? [17:21] <_genuser_> avconv -i -vcodec copy -acodec copy output.mpg {,-f dvd,-f mpeg2video} [17:21] <_genuser_> so without format and with each specifed. i just goes kapu [17:21] <_genuser_> kaput [17:21] <_genuser_> *it smh [17:25] _genuser_, hmmm give me a few seconds to look this up. Did you ever figure out the os issue though? [17:25] <_genuser_> os issue (xubuntu bootup?) yeah, I have that fixed. [17:26] yea that is what i was talking about. Yay! [17:26] _genuser_, just so you know there is a a #libav channel [17:27] _genuser_, not saying i wont try and help but just in case I can't [17:27] <_genuser_> no worries. If you have cmd ideas, I'll appreciate them. But this whole video converting thing is a fulltime job until you get your script just right, heh. then you can relax [17:28] _genuser_, lol thats why i made my script :D want to see it? [17:28] <_genuser_> and yah, I'll probably head to the #libav soo too. [17:28] <_genuser_> sure, I'd like to see the script. [17:29] its a two part script but i just made a cron job every hour or so for it to run [17:29] <_genuser_> I have multiple scripts but all for windows. now I'm trying to move it all to linux, hence the hassle. [17:29] <_genuser_> heh, nice. mine is also just a scheduled task in win, run at 3am and just complete them off. [17:30] http://dpaste.com/3WNGZ4W/ http://dpaste.com/1BT1VW3/ [17:31] _genuser_, simple but works amazing :D [17:31] <_genuser_> lol that's hilarious. [17:31] <_genuser_> programming vs. scripting. [17:32] why? [17:32] <_genuser_> I'm a developer with end users. So you should see the amount of lines I have in my script just doing basic setup, lol. [17:32] <_genuser_> I've gotten so used to "the setup". [17:32] <_genuser_> heh, I always have 20 lines of setup (vars, prompts, echoes (status updates/errors), just for one line of actual job. [17:33] _genuser_, ehh i try and keep it simple [17:34] <_genuser_> nice, script. so the ffmpeg -i -repeset veryslow... <--- that's pulling in your presets for all the screen resolution, de-interlacing, etc. [17:34] _genuser_, the veryslow has the best compression [17:35] <_genuser_> oh wait, that's an out of the box preset not one you made, correct? [17:36] _genuser_, yea it takes longer to convert but has better quality and better compression [17:36] _genuser_, but it is a default [17:37] theres ultrafast, fast, slow, veryslow. or at least thoughs are the only ones i know of [17:37] <_genuser_> and the -target is setting up the vcodec/acodec stuff, eh? [17:38] _genuser_, nope its setting if i want pal or ntsc. regional dvd player codes [17:38] ntsc is USA and a few other countrys and pal is everything else [17:39] ntsc dvd players wont play pal dvd's [17:39] and vice versa [17:40] _genuser_, avconv and ffmpeg are generally pretty smart and will do the quality of vcodec and acodev automatically unless you are copying the streams [17:41] as you are doing [17:41] <_genuser_> I think the .vob is what makes it guess the correct format. [17:41] <_genuser_> I remember reading that the extension will make it pick the best one possible for each video/audi. [17:41] _genuser_, yep [17:41] _genuser_, its only if you don't want the default you can change it with the vcodec and acodecs flags [17:43] <_genuser_> well, let's see if I can just convert it to a good ole vob file. [17:43] _genuser_, just know if you do the -threads flag it will make the quality slightly worse. Not really noticeable unless your doing some really high def work [17:44] <_genuser_> nah, it didn't like that either. av_interleaved_write_frame(): Invalid argument. I think the input format itself is not acceptable for ffmpeg/avconv. [17:44] _genuser_, how are you getting the files? === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [17:46] <_genuser_> where are the files being generated? [17:46] yea [17:47] <_genuser_> windows 8 MCE records them as .WTV files. It provides a conversion utility that converts them to .DVR-MS. I then use a crappy free utility by someone at MSFT called dvredit to cut out the commercials. [17:47] <_genuser_> the resulting .DVR-MS file is what's fed into the ffmpeg in this case. [17:48] <_genuser_> but I have also tried the original WTV file (considering ffmpeg understands them now and can occassionally extract teh mpeg nicely). [17:48] <_genuser_> and I have tried the unbutchered .DVR-MS file also. [17:49] _genuser_, lol i was just looking at converting the .wtv files directly [17:49] http://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=846 [17:50] <_genuser_> yeah, the only reason to convert them to dvr-ms is to be able to use dvredit to cut out commercials. [17:50] <_genuser_> if you convert the WTV direclty to x264, then you can't really edit them. x264 is really not sutiable for editting. [17:58] <_genuser_> lol screw it. getting latest ffmpeg from ffmpeg site. [17:58] _genuser_, please watch the language [17:58] <_genuser_> sorry [18:00] _genuser_, why does it support that codec? [18:00] hi,i am new in xubuntu,I 'd appreciate any help. [18:00] xnikos, whats the issue? [18:00] <_genuser_> xnikos: ask your question, hopefully someone knows and will chime in. :) [18:00] <_genuser_> rawrmonster: why does it support which codec? [18:01] _genuser_, you said you were getting the latest version of ffmpeg and i was wondering why. maybe it supported something this version of libav doesnt? [18:02] the setup went fine,but after reboot it says no such partition [18:02] xnikos, did you do a manual partition? [18:03] <_genuser_> rawrmonster: I saw a few posts online that avconv didn't work on wtv/dvr-ms but the latest ffmpeg did. so you know ./configure --prefix=/usr;make;make install and let's see... heh [18:03] no I let it create it through the setup process [18:04] _genuser_, :D its funny how few people know how to manually compile software. [18:04] xnikos, sounds like a grub error [18:05] xnikos, im kinda new to xubuntu let me see what grub they use 1 sec [18:05] <_genuser_> rawrmonster: yeah, you build an LFS, you build GCC a few times, you get a little comfortable trying to read the tons of lines for errors.... :) [18:05] _genuser_, I just uninstalled gentoo today to get xubuntu on my laptop [18:06] through live CD,partitions look fine [18:06] xnikos, thats why im saying its most likely a grub issue [18:07] <_genuser_> rawrmonster: heh, this server I'm using for irssi is running gentoo. :) [18:07] <_genuser_> it's my fileserver [18:07] im just trying to find the "xubuntu way" of doing it because i don't want you to get bogged down with cli if i dont have to [18:08] <_genuser_> xnikos: when you boot in grub, you shoudl be able to select the line you will use to boot, and hit e. That should let you edit that entry. [18:08] <_genuser_> you should be able to see what it's using. It might still be using hda (hd instead of sd). If not, it might be off by one. [18:09] <_genuser_> it really should be using UUIDs but it can write those to the grub.conf incorrectly also. [18:09] xnikos, run "sudo update-grub" [18:10] _genuser_, i hope update-grub automaticly handles chroot that will be fun to explain [18:10] automatically* [18:11] <_genuser_> yeah that's always fun. my fileserver is pretty simple. I just use RAID1 and samba. Because when it gets complicated and you have to boot in the gentoo livecd, it's a long process. [18:11] xnikos, my only gentoo machine left now that i switched my laptop is my email server [18:12] oops not ment for xnikos sorry [18:12] _genuser_, rawrmonster: you can discuss non-support stuff over #xubuntu-offtopic [18:14] _genuser_, good meeting you i g2g ill message you later if you are still on [18:14] <_genuser_> rawrmonster: nice to meet you too. have fun. [18:24] the command sudo update-grub gives "failed to get canonical path of `/cow' [18:28] wow [18:28] 20 sec [18:28] he waited 20 sec, i got the answer :( [18:29] maybe they were just telling us [18:29] I already knew [18:30] hehe [18:30] sorry I was chatting from the mobile and had problems.I can't get into xubuntu after install that went rather fine.the command sudo update-grub gave me "error: failed to get canonical path of `/cow' [18:31] when it starts it says partition was not found [18:32] how can I fix the grub? [18:35] anyone? [18:39] xnikos: I find this to be the simplest,quickest method - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_the_LiveCD_terminal [18:42] ok I'll take a look,thanks a lot [18:52] Hey [18:52] yo [18:53] I didn't know that 12.04 was supported until 04/2015 [18:53] I'm having some frustrating issues with screen artifacts.. anyone feel like they could help? [19:15] What is the best way to set the screen lock to a key combo? [19:17] rawrmonster: settings manager > keyboard [19:59] does anyone know a good website to make xubuntu run any faster. Maybe some common tweaks? [20:00] rawrmonster: "xubuntu run faster" doesn't really mean anything, what are you doing with it that you want to be faster? [20:01] deshipu: I am looking to make applications load faster mainly [20:01] rawrmonster: which applications? [20:02] deshipu: firefox, libreoffice, software center [20:02] Thoughs are the main ones [20:03] so one way is to use lighter versions of those, like chromium, abiword and synaptic [20:03] with firefox, uninstalling plugins should help a lot [20:03] buy more ram, a faster cpu and a ssd :) [20:04] I have an i-7 3.2GHz with 8GB of ram [20:04] enabling 'start gnome services' in sessions and startup may help a little [20:05] other than that, those programs are really written to be slow, and xubuntu doesn't really add to their slowness much, so there is little you can do [20:06] an ssd or ramdisk might help, but that's a lot of mucking around for little effect [20:07] deshipu: Well i mean i dont mind tinkering (used gentoo before this) it just seems that xubuntu is more slug-ish [20:07] deshipu: could it be the bloaded kernel? [20:07] bloated* [20:07] rawrmonster: unlikely [20:08] rawrmonster: the three applications you mentioned are really huge programs that have a lot of their own internal systems and subsystems -- the speed of kernel and other operating system services contribute very little to their speed [20:09] rawrmonster: they just have a lot of code to execute [20:09] deshipu: will abiword support most of the basic functions that libreoffice will? The main things i use are embeding jpegs in text and bold [20:10] Hello, I have a bit of a stupid question. My fonts looks really really nice on Xubuntu, but my conky background fonts look crappy in comparison. Any place I can start to look? [20:10] rawrmonster: it should do that, but I'm not 100% sure, as I don't use either [20:10] Eeinn: I wonder if conky has a channel [20:10] Eeinn: Im pretty sure you can tell conky what font to use in the script [20:12] deshipu: :D I think it does support it [20:12] deshipu: is chromium really faster than firefox? [20:12] rawrmonster: not in everything, but it surely starts up faster [20:13] rawrmonster: it fluctuates from version to version, of course [20:13] deshipu: as does most software [20:13] and having lots of extensions will slow it down again [20:13] deshipu: well of this size [20:13] deshipu: i only use one extension [20:14] well two i take that back one extension and one plugin [20:14] Thanks [20:18] deshipu: what a good faster equivalent for thunderbird that doesn't look really bad? [20:18] replacing a good application just because it takes some more seconds to launch.. [20:18] are you running out of time? :) [20:19] brainwash: no I just don't use many of the features at all so why not just get something that's faster? [20:20] brainwash: I like my machine to feel really snappy [20:20] mmh, why did you go with xubuntu then? [20:21] just curious [20:21] brainwash: I was using gentoo before this but I got really tired of compiling everything on the computer that i use every day. I still use it on almost everything else [20:21] gentoo allows to configure your system in the way you like it [20:22] but there also pre-compiled binaries or? [20:22] for like firefox [20:23] When it comes to my main computer I just really want things to work. On every other computer I have I like to tinker. I take this machine to work with me and I need to be more production than tweaking everything all the time on gentoo [20:23] productive* [20:24] true :) [20:24] Because I really love gentoo but I just cant do it on this laptop [20:27] not quite sure, but is "preload" already installed by default? [20:27] I guess no [20:28] I dont think so but doesn't that mess with the randomization of library's? [20:28] preload does not make much sense if you already use a SSD [20:28] brainwash: i dont have an ssd [20:29] really want one but cant afford it at the moment [20:29] any reason why not? [20:29] it's the no #1 tweak to speed up the app launch times [20:30] saving for a ssd will speed up responsiveness much more than tinkering with some wild "hacks" to speed up the system [20:30] because there like 340-350 for an intel 500GB [20:30] they are* sorry [20:30] oh, well [20:31] I'm only using a 40gb one [20:31] brainwash: I really need more storage than that [20:32] I see, I got most things stored on my server [20:32] you could also decide to buy a small ssd for the system and use the existing hdd for larger files [20:32] I am almost done getting the parts for my nas box i am building [20:34] koegs: that is a good idea. just mount home and swap on the reg hdd and map / to the ssd [20:35] is preload bad for security reasons? [20:35] it shouldn't preload stuff from /home [20:35] brainwash: i know that im talking about alsr [20:36] i think that is the right acronym [20:36] aslr [20:36] no clue [20:36] address space layout randomization [20:37] yea [20:40] chromium loads way faster and loads websites way faster, but when you minimize and bring it back to the top it doesn't render correctly until you put your mouse over the parts that didn't load correctly [20:42] there are some known(?) rendering issues with chrome/ium [20:42] brainwash: ahh ok [20:42] might be related to the new ui stack, they switched from gtk2 to aura [20:43] rawrmonster: disable hardware acceleration in advanced settings [20:44] hi.I have problem booting into xubuntu after first install. I keep getting the message:error: no such partition./entering rescue mode.../grub rescue> through live cd-which works fine,I can see the partitions and they look good to me.I have to say my cpu is not PAE enabled,but I do the "forcepae" trick when cd boots.I already tried the boot-repair app after install it through live CD,and also tried boot-repair-disk,but doesn't run bec [20:44] bug 1309801 [20:44] bug 1309801 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "[xubuntu] chromium redraw issue after switching workspaces" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1309801 [20:44] deshipu: awesome :D [20:44] deshipu: fixed it [20:44] Any ideas would be much appreciated. [20:44] but disabling hw accel is kinda... meh [20:45] brainwash: well it will work till they fix it [20:45] hopefully soon [20:46] brainwash: well, it doesn't work correctly on all graphics cards === ponbiki is now known as Guest5610 === Guest5610 is now known as ponpon [20:46] I have an intel hd. I never expected for anything amazing fromit [20:46] from it* [21:20] xubuntu uses the exact package versions as the ubuntu equivalent right? [21:21] Same repos, so yes same versions. [22:48] hey, the Sound Menu appears in the items list of "indicator plugin", but it is not appeared on the top panel. Someone knows why? [22:51] could someone help me please, I am trying to auto mount a ntfs partition on startup, but it always shows an error occurs during login, press s to skip [22:52] will reinstalling xubuntu without formating home folder overwrite my user configs with new ones or use the old ones when available? [22:59] Could someone help me with fstab? I am trying to auto mount an ntfs partition, but it always gives an error on startup === ponpon is now known as ponbiki [23:14] Could someone help me with fstab? I am trying to auto mount an ntfs partition, but it always gives an error on startup [23:30] I have a user that can login through SSH, but not through the main login window, any ideas? [23:51] hey guys. need some help. how do i make it so i do not get asked a password when screen locks? i've unchecked every ask password box everywhere but it still ask [23:51] or is that something that i have to reboot for?