[00:48] <dodger> emma: it's quiet here at times ;)
[00:49] <The0x539> gateway/web/
[00:49] <The0x539> sigh
[00:49] <The0x539> anyway
[00:49] <The0x539> I'm not done installing, but are there prepackaged alternate cursor sets?
[00:49] <dodger> The0x539: yes
[00:50] <The0x539> dodger: good
[00:50] <dodger> you can go to system settings -> workspace appearance -> cursor theme
[00:50] <The0x539> any that won't feel so ...don't know... toy-ish? to someone used to the standard cursor shapes?
[00:50] <dodger> and click the Get New Theme button :)
[00:50] <The0x539> I was talking about prepackaged :|, meaning the same level of quality would be guaranteed
[00:51] <dodger> ah
[00:51] <dodger> hold on
[00:51] <The0x539> There a known good one?
[00:53] <TheFakeazneD525> The0x539: the "Get New Themes" button should help you
[00:54] <The0x539> TheFakeazneD525: again, not what I was asking
[00:54] <TheFakeazneD525> prepackaged?
[00:54] <TheFakeazneD525> like in .deb?
[00:54] <The0x539> official, comes with the install
[00:54] <The0x539> like the different themes bundled with xfce, despite being able to download more
[00:55] <TheFakeazneD525> yeah, there are quite a few themes...
[00:55] <TheFakeazneD525> iirc, a standard looking cursor should be bundled
[00:55] <dodger> i think the oxygen themes and the KDE classic theme are the only ones that are part of the distribution though
[00:56] <dodger> KDE classic is old-school, might be what you're looking for ;)
[00:59] <TheFakeazneD525> Oh dear...
[01:00] <TheFakeazneD525> I can't seem to find the "mouse themes" KCM
[01:00] <The0x539> I just want one that has the same visual appeal, but not kiddy shapes
[01:00] <dodger> TheFakeazneD525: it's under workspace appearance
[01:00] <TheFakeazneD525> wait, let me check if it's here
[01:00] <TheFakeazneD525> I'm in netrunner actually
[01:00] <dodger> ah
[01:00] <The0x539> 84%
[01:00] <The0x539> itshappening.gif
[01:01] <TheFakeazneD525> dodger: nope, "workspace appearance" isn't here
[01:01] <dodger> The0x539: I think you might be best off finding one via the get new theme button; there's not a lot that come prepackaged in the repositories
[01:01] <TheFakeazneD525> ._.
[01:05] <TheFakeazneD525> dodger: is there any way to install the workspace appearance KCMs?
[01:05] <dodger> i'd think they come with the standard install, let me check
[01:06] <The0x539> dodger: I only need one :P
[01:06] <TheFakeazneD525> dodger: it did with Kubuntu, but it's curiously missing from Netrunner (standard)
[01:06] <TheFakeazneD525> Sysinfo for 'DSI-NB1': Running inside KDE 4.13.0 on Netrunner 13.12, Enigma-II powered by Linux 3.11.0-23-generic, CPU: AMD E2-1800 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics at 850-1700/1700 MHz, RAM: 3043/3361 MB, Storage: 28/189 GB, 185 procs, 15.64h up
[01:06] <dodger> TheFakeazneD525: do you have the window decorations or desktop theme kcms?
[01:06] <TheFakeazneD525> Yes, I have all the "Desktop Appearance" KCMs
[01:14] <dodger> weird, what version of kde are you running?
[01:15] <TheFakeazneD525> 4.13
[01:15] <TheFakeazneD525> Engima 2 uses Kubuntu 13.10 as a base
[01:17] <dodger> i don't see a package that should do it
[01:37] <dbrom> anyone using xbmc
[01:43]  * friti uses XBMC
[01:43] <friti> dbrom: what's the problem with XBMC?
[01:44] <dbrom> i have installed it but cant access it
[01:44] <friti> Can you be more specific?
[01:47] <dbrom> ok installed it on kubuntu 13.10 ive read that all you need is smb and xbmc but its not working
[01:48] <friti> What happens when you start xbmc?
[01:49] <dbrom> shit.... how do i start it
[01:49] <friti> You don;t know how to start it, and yet you can claim that it;s not working?
[01:50] <friti> Menu > Multimedia > XBMC Media Center
[01:51] <friti> Or open Konsole and type xbmc and press enter.
[01:51] <dbrom> /etc/init.d/xbmc start
[01:52] <friti> Are you doing what i asked you to?
[01:53] <dbrom> yes
[01:53] <dbrom> XBMC needs hardware accelerated OpenGL rendering.
[01:53] <dbrom> Install an appropriate graphics driver.
[01:54] <friti> Well, what graphics card do you have?
[01:54] <dbrom> how do i find that...
[01:54] <friti> *facepalm*
[01:54] <dbrom> i know
[01:55] <friti> First get your Kubuntu to work before you take on anything else, like xbmc. First things first.
[01:56] <dbrom> it works but doesnt have OpenGL on it
[01:57] <friti> Open Konsole, and type the following command: lspci | grep 'VGA'
[01:59] <dbrom> XBMC needs hardware accelerated OpenGL rendering.
[01:59] <dbrom> Install an appropriate graphics driver.
[01:59] <friti> You are not doind as i ask you
[01:59] <friti> Open Konsole, and type the following command: lspci | grep 'VGA'
[02:00] <friti> When i do that, it says : "02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF106 [GeForce GTS 450] (rev a1)"
[02:00] <friti> Tell me what it tells you
[02:01] <dbrom> Intel Corp E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Intergrated Graphics Controler
[02:02] <friti> Ah so you have an integrated Intel. Now let's see if there are drivers that you can install. Type jockey-kde and press enter. (doing this from memory, i use Kubuntu 14:04 and that does not have jockey anymore)
[02:04] <dbrom> ERROR:root:Could not find any typelib for AppIndicator3
[02:04] <dbrom> : cannot connect to X server
[02:05] <friti> Okay, try this then: sudo apt-get install kde-full
[02:06] <friti> That will install a bunch of stuff, and hopefully also a bunch that is currently missing from your configuration
[02:15] <dbrom> still installing
[02:15]  * The0x539 sighs
[02:15] <The0x539> guess I'll have to deal with the kiddy normal cursor
[02:16] <The0x539> The loading and standard are the only two I dislike.
[02:16] <friti> dbrom: That's good. It means that it is adding stuff that you were missing.
[02:16] <dbrom> yes thats ussuall the case
[02:29] <friti> dbrom: still installing?
[02:29] <dbrom> yes
[02:29] <friti> Just checking.
[02:57] <dbrom> still here
[02:58] <friti> Me too :-)
[02:59] <dbrom> where aree you from
[03:00] <friti> I'm from the Netherlands, currently living in the USA
[03:00] <friti> You?
[03:00] <dbrom> Canada Toronto
[03:00] <friti> Ah, east. I live on the west coast
[03:02] <dbrom> ok, have clients out there
[03:14] <dbrom> u there
[03:14] <dbrom> same error
[03:24] <friti> Right, same error. Perhaps you should do a reboot and then try again
[03:31] <dbrom> i have installed a deb file using dkpg how do i remove it
[03:35] <TheFakeazneD525> dbrom: dpkg -r packagename
[03:35] <TheFakeazneD525> no .deb
[04:48] <manu0405> Hello?
[04:51] <manu0405> I have a question: does anybody has problems with Qualcomm Atheros AR242x / AR542x Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01) in Kubuntu 14.04 LTS?
[06:59] <joeuserasus> test
[06:59] <joeuserasus> worls
[07:00] <joeuserasus> works :)
[07:05] <valorie> joeuserasus: are you testing out quassel?
[10:01] <BluesKaj> 'Morning
[10:37] <ubuntu> hello
[10:38] <Guest94736> ?
[10:38] <Guest94736> whowas
[10:47] <BluesKaj> Guest94736, whowas wjho?
[13:31] <jubolog2> I am running 14.04 inside of latest VirtualBox on clean Windows7
[13:32] <jubolog2> How do I turn the "autoresize desktop size based on window resize in HOST OS
[13:32] <jubolog2> no..  in Guest OS
[13:32] <jubolog2> I get only 640x480 Plos halp
[13:34] <jubolog2> also gib money to Eastern Polan
[13:42] <SternNL> You need to install Guest Additions from inside your Kubuntu 14.04 virtual system
[13:43] <SternNL> Make sure you have installed "VirtualBox Extension Pack" in your Guest OS (Windows). You can download it from the virtualbox.org website
[13:44] <SternNL> Host OS i mean
[13:50] <The0x539> How well would Thunderbird integrate compared to kmail?
[13:51] <The0x539> also, a fairly basic question, how do I get my desktop to just show ~/Desktop/
[13:58] <jubolog2> SternNL: Installing extension pack
[13:58] <jubolog2> I want to reboot I assume
[13:58] <jubolog2> coz nothing interesting happened
[14:01] <friti> jubolog2: Yes, you will want to reboot the OS in VirtualBox.
[14:01] <jubolog2> I'm doing that currently
[14:02] <friti> Awesome
[14:02] <jubolog2> now it says "Proprietary drivers may be needed..."
[14:03] <jubolog2> Seamless mode and Auto-resize Guest Display
[14:03] <jubolog2> are grayed out
[14:03] <jubolog2> I run Linux and Windows inside that unless gaming
[14:06] <friti> Okay, reading back, i would like to get some things clear. You installed the Guest additions by clicking Device => Insert Guest Additions CD Image, and then started autorun.sh, correct?
[14:09] <friti> Also, pay attention to any error messages that may appear whilst intalling the guest additions.
[14:16] <SternNL> If I'm not mistaken the package "gcc" is needed
[14:20] <friti> One should first do 'sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-generic' to install both all the tools and libs that are needed for compilation, as well as the kernel headers. The latter is needed by the VBoxLinuxAdditions
[14:22] <friti> Oh well, seems like jubolog2 has lost interest.
[14:30] <sbchary> hai
[14:36] <jubolog2> friti: yeah.. I needed to boot to native Kubuntu 12, that's why :)
[14:37] <SternNL> any progress made?
[15:09] <jubolog2> install VirtualBox additions .iso file into Guest OS filesystem, gotcha friti
[15:35] <georgelappies> hi all
[15:49] <vbgunz> I have this issue on 14.04 with my desktop. icons overlap one another on every other reboot. it's kind of crazy
[16:00] <yossarianuk> vbgunz: that happens to me in Arch (kde)
[16:00] <yossarianuk> vbgunz: do you use mutiple monitors?
[16:01] <vbgunz> yossarianuk: yeah, I have 3 monitors, I bounce between them using shortcuts but at the moment only one is on.
[16:01] <yossarianuk> possibly connected.
[16:01] <yossarianuk> have yo tried to place the icons/widgets where you want then logging out rather than shutting down ?
[16:02] <vbgunz> I'm not sure when it happens, they're all connected ready for all types of configurations but 2 of them are off and not enabled
[16:02] <vbgunz> I haven't really tested what exactly is causing them to overlap, I usually sleep over logging out or shutting down
[16:30] <jubolog2> How do I make a USB-connectable hard drive so that Windows agrees to see it and to format it?
[16:30] <jubolog2> 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb count=1' doesn't do the magic it did for the USB-stick
[16:31] <jubolog2> I tried with few hundred thousands too
[16:31] <jubolog2> still nothing but "plink-plonk" when I plug it
[16:33] <jubolog2> maybe with mkfs ?
[16:42] <jubolog2> mkfs sayss /dev/sdb no such device
[16:43] <jubolog2> I should maybe run something else 1st and then try to put a partition in with 'mkfs --type=NTFS -V /dev/sdb' ?
[17:33] <lordievader> Good evening.
[18:44] <rick111> netbeans 8.0 wont start in ubuntu i keep getting awarning -could not install some modules
[18:44] <rick111> i have to exit or disable modules to continue then it just doesnt start
[19:12] <paradoxajd> anyone has expirience with mono and mvc.net ?
[19:12] <paradoxajd> (#mono isn't really active)
[20:02] <dougiel> was messing around with displays and now my 14.04 kdelogin is messed all I get is a black screen with lightdm and graphic with kdm... any suggestions?
[20:16] <lordievader> dougiel: Correct driver is loaded?
[20:18] <bprompt> dougiel:     define "messing around with displays"
[20:22] <paradoxajd> i'm about to work in collaborative project on mvc.net app, with ajax js, etc is it possible for me to fully develop from linux
[20:28] <dougiel> bprompt, plugging them in and using nvidia-settings to configure
[20:29] <dougiel> lordievader, just doing nvidia-current now
[20:30] <bprompt> dougiel:     see any .conf at /etc/X11 folder?
[20:31] <dougiel> Xwrapper.config
[20:32] <lordievader> dougiel: But is it loaded?
[20:37] <dougiel> I think I will get loaded... seems quicker and easier
[20:42] <k__> hi
[20:48] <lordievader> dougiel: lspci -k|grep -A2 VGA
[20:50] <dougiel> nvidia driver correctly id card
[20:53] <dougiel> using kdm to login and all I get is a cursor and kde background
[20:58] <friti> dougiel: open a terminal if you can or boot in recovery mode. Then do sudo apt-get install kde-full
[20:59] <dougiel> friti, ssh is working is that ok?
[21:00] <friti> Should be fine. As long as you can install kde-full
[21:00] <dougiel> friti, thanks - its going now
[21:00] <friti> It might give you some stuff that you don;t want/need, but it will satisfy dependencies that you are now missing. And the undesired software can always be uninstalled.
[21:02] <dougiel> if this is a full install what level install was it before?
[21:03] <lordievader> Wouldn't it be a better idea to reinstall kubuntu-desktop.
[21:03] <lordievader> KDE-full is huge.
[21:03] <friti> Only you would know, but something must have gone wrong for you to end up with a crippled system.
[21:31] <phoenixz> Is there anything known about 14.04 and a borked up rtl8192se driver
[21:31] <phoenixz> ?
[21:32] <phoenixz> I'm going nuts with the 14.04 release. 13.10 had no problem as far as I can see, 14.04 will just disconnect WiFi on random moments, specially with bad connections (lots of packets are being dropped).. And I suspect that the driver is also very guilty in the packet dropping, because after reloading the driver, sunndely packet drops are gone as well..
[21:34] <phoenixz> It also seems to happen al lot when Im low on memory, and I have about 500+MB in swap
[21:46] <nsa__> anyone in here
[21:47] <nsa__> looks full but everyone must be asleep
[21:51] <SvenOostenbrink> zzzz
[21:52] <phoenixz> Nobody wants to talk to NSA
[23:50] <Walzmyn> Is there away to make an option to log into a terminal instead of Plasma at the GUI login?